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Speaker 3: Chris Wesleyan podcast studio talking to my friend Nick Shook.

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Speaker 3: Across the country in Cleveland. It was about as one

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Speaker 3: If you didn't realize before tonight that Tucker Craft was

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Speaker 4: Mean that catches me a little bit. By surprise. But

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Speaker 4: this guy. He had a hell of a night. Let's

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Speaker 3: Okay, last season, I would say if you look at

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Speaker 3: for one of the greatest edgreshers I've ever seen in

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Speaker 2: And the games really aren't competitive.

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Speaker 3: They're in a different class in these two games than

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Speaker 4: What stuck out to you, Well, I mean, we spent

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Speaker 3: You know you're a beast when the other team gets

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Speaker 4: No, they're winning the trench battle. They won on both

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Speaker 4: We can talk about how well Jordan Love and everybody

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Speaker 3: The crazy thing is you get twelve quarterback hits in

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Speaker 3: Jones Drew who just immediately thought it was a collar bone.

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Speaker 3: Concerning for Jaden Reid, Saveon Williams is a young player

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Speaker 3: I mean early in the game, key sweet sequence, he

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Speaker 2: Over the Commanders.

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Speaker 3: You know, young cornerback who was one of many I

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Speaker 2: Receiver to the right Saveon Williams snapped at Jordan Love

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Matt Leaflair just he just puts so much eye

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Speaker 4: Like, yeah, talk about that. That was the prevailing themes.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, the PFF has like the instant grades

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Speaker 2: I'm not going to panic now.

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Speaker 4: another team, they'll probably have more success. We're gonna look

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Speaker 4: back in this game and think that might have been

436
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Speaker 4: the first or second example that we could point to

437
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Speaker 4: as Wow, this Packers defense is for real. So I

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Speaker 4: don't really, you know, criticize the Commanders too much for

439
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Speaker 4: their struggles tonight, but they do need to get on

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Speaker 4: track right.

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Speaker 3: But you probably have lost Eckeler here, and he's a

442
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Speaker 3: good role player for them. You lost Teterrick Wise, who

443
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Speaker 3: is going to be a good role player for them.

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Speaker 3: You're now counting on Bill Merritt, Bill Krossky Merritt, who

445
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Speaker 3: didn't have a lot of action tonight just as a

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Speaker 3: pure running back, and Daniels has just been like a

447
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Speaker 3: little bit off. So the changes that they want in

448
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Speaker 3: the offense, they'll now get to reset a little bit. McLaurin,

449
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Speaker 3: as you mentioned, was quiet until garbage time for the

450
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Speaker 3: second straight week. I think Deebo Samuel has looked like

451
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Speaker 3: the old Debo in these two weeks.

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Speaker 2: That's a positive.

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Speaker 3: Zach Ertz is still a good football player somehow, like

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Speaker 3: the guy who was drafted in the same class as

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Speaker 3: Travis Kelcey. Is still getting it done like Travis Kelcey.

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Speaker 3: But otherwise, man, there was not a lot to feel

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Speaker 3: real positive about. And I love what you mentioned that

458
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Speaker 3: he couldn't scramble it. It's because this Packers defense is

459
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Speaker 3: the most athletic defense in the league. I mean Edrin

460
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Speaker 3: Cooper and Rashaun Gary backing up these edges.

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Speaker 2: It is just awesome.

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Speaker 3: Going into the fourth quarter, the Commanders had not been

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Speaker 3: in the red zone. Their offense had subsisted of Matt

464
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Speaker 3: Gay kicking three different field goals of over fifty yards

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Speaker 3: at least attempting them and missing two of them. That

466
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Speaker 3: was their offense. The numbers were so one sided into

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter when the Commanders did put together a

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Speaker 3: couple of drives, So bully to the Packers. Definitely gonna

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Speaker 3: be a top a lot of power rankings. I suspect

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Speaker 3: after week two, and that's without seeing any other Week two.

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Speaker 3: Action Commanders now at one and one before we go shook.

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Speaker 3: You know, we tape our preview show pretty early Wednesday

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Speaker 3: and appreciate everyone checking out the dueling preview shows. We

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Speaker 3: got a little loopy at the end. I hope you

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Speaker 3: enjoyed it. The AFC NFC was a lot of fun.

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Speaker 3: We appreciate all the responses to it, and if you're

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Speaker 3: watching us on YouTube, we really appreciate you subscribing and

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Speaker 3: liking and giving us a review on iTunes as well,

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Speaker 3: telling your friends. We're trying to grow this thing and

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Speaker 3: we're loving the momentum. Before we go, you know, it's

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Speaker 3: been so long since that show. We do have a

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Speaker 3: little bit of news and I just feel weird being

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Speaker 3: in this studio and not mentioning it. Dron Bland, the

484
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Speaker 3: Cowboys Cornerback is gonna miss two to three weeks with

485
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Speaker 3: a foot injury that happened in practice. I'm like, can

486
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Speaker 3: we just eradicate practice injuries? I feel like this keeps happening.

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Speaker 3: Let's just stop this. Why is this happening?

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Speaker 4: I know I would love to, but you can't. You

489
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Speaker 4: got to ear reps in as you prepped. You can't

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Speaker 4: be on ice all week. You come out rusty on

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Speaker 4: Sunday that everyone's gonna be like you're back on the

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Speaker 4: practice field. They don't go hard like.

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Speaker 2: They used to.

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Speaker 4: But it does suck like it Just as a football fan,

495
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Speaker 4: it's unfortunate that a player like him or anybody gets

496
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Speaker 4: hurt in practice when you're not, you know, putting your

497
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Speaker 4: body on the line during a game. But this is

498
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Speaker 4: also a Cowboys team that has already been subject to

499
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Speaker 4: enough adversity. This is gonna make a little bit more

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Speaker 4: challenging for them.

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Speaker 3: I know, watching the Cowboys Week one and then watching

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Speaker 3: Parsons out there tonight, I was like, the Cowboys could

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Speaker 3: be contenders with Micah Parsons. It is really a little

504
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Speaker 3: mind blowing. And I don't mean contenders like winning the NFC.

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Speaker 3: We got a long way to go. I'm just saying

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Speaker 3: if they had a decent defense with that offense, like

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Speaker 3: they could be interesting and you just see what a

508
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Speaker 3: force multiplier Parsons is. Bland, who just got a big contract,

509
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Speaker 3: is right now their best cornerback. They're trying to get

510
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Speaker 3: Trayvon Diggs back going from injury. He should be playing

511
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Speaker 3: Week two. A couple other injury news. Jalen Johnson is

512
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Speaker 3: back at Bears practice. They are expecting him to return

513
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Speaker 3: to the field, so that is good news for them.

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Speaker 3: In that Lions game, Dallas Godder has been out of practice.

515
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Speaker 3: A little bit of a surprise there for the Eagles.

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Speaker 3: We'll see what his status is on Friday. Juan Jennings

517
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Speaker 3: is one of the many forty nine ers out of practice.

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Speaker 3: We've already reported. You know that Mac Jones is going

519
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Speaker 3: to be starting that game. George Kittle is out, but

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Speaker 3: they also might be short. Juan Jennings, Man, I'm really

521
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Speaker 3: struggling to pick this game.

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Speaker 2: Shook for game debut.

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Speaker 3: You know, I went with the forty nine ers, but

524
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Speaker 3: as it's getting closer and I'm hearing more forty nine

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Speaker 3: ers out. I mean, if the Saints are going to

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Speaker 3: win let's say four games this year, wouldn't one of

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Speaker 3: those games be at home against Mac Jones in the

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Speaker 3: forty nine ers. I feel like, if the Saints can't

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Speaker 3: win this game, They're not going to win any games.

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Speaker 4: This is an example of one of those weird spots

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Speaker 4: we find ourselves in the first month of the season,

532
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Speaker 4: which is that we have one week of tape to

533
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Speaker 4: rely on, so the contextual analysis is very thin, and

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Speaker 4: I just think about what happened Sunday with the Saints

535
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Speaker 4: and the Cardinals. Like Spencer Radler had them in position

536
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Speaker 4: to tie the game. In fact, he threw a touchdown

537
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Speaker 4: pass to the Tyler game it just got dropped, and their

538
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Speaker 4: defense played well enough to keep them in That game.

539
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Speaker 4: Really kind of frustrated the Cardinals and Kyler Murray, especially

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Speaker 4: in the second half. I could see them doing the

541
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Speaker 4: same thing against the forty nine ers, especially if they

542
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Speaker 4: don't have Jennings. They already don't have Rockberty, they don't

543
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Speaker 4: have George Kittle. They do have Christian McCaffrey, though. That

544
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Speaker 4: could be a tide turner for them, so I could

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Speaker 4: see it. I can definitely see it, but I don't

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Speaker 4: think that should sway your pick. The Saints are team.

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Speaker 3: Ron Jennings, definitely should not sway my pick, but I'm

548
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Speaker 3: an emotional person who just reacts to the last thing

549
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Speaker 3: that I see.

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Speaker 4: You believe in the agenda, you gotta have Rattler come

551
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Speaker 4: out on top at least once.

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Speaker 3: I just believe that there's not nearly as much difference,

553
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Speaker 3: despite you know, tonight, between the good teams and the

554
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Speaker 3: bad teams in the NFL. It's true, and I don't

555
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Speaker 3: necessarily think the forty nine ers with Mac Jones at

556
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Speaker 3: quarterback without George Kittle is a good team. That's an

557
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Speaker 3: average team, so there's not a big difference. I don't

558
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Speaker 3: think between those two teams. Xavier Worthy, by the way,

559
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Speaker 3: was at practice for the Chiefs. Very surprising after that

560
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Speaker 3: shoulder injury. I think there's still some skepticism he might

561
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Speaker 3: play this week, but it indicates that they're going to

562
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Speaker 3: give him a shot at some point.

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Speaker 4: Can we talk about this for sure?

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Speaker 2: I saw you rare and a go yeah.

565
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Speaker 4: Dislocated shoulder. I see an image of him on the

566
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Speaker 4: practice field today with a very clear shoulder brace on.

567
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Speaker 4: I once suffered a shoulder injury and had to wear

568
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Speaker 4: a similar brace. I didn't play receiver, I played offensive line,

569
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Speaker 4: and even I can tell you it restricts your movement.

570
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Speaker 4: You can only go about this far out and like

571
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Speaker 4: this far back, Like if you're watching on YouTube, you'll

572
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Speaker 4: see it. But it's it's a range of motion.

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Speaker 3: You're getting your money, whereas with that shook forearm right

574
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Speaker 3: in your face.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, oh yeah, No, it's like it's a limited range

576
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Speaker 4: of motion and for a receiver, it's going to hinder you.

577
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Speaker 4: So I don't know how he's going to play this week.

578
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Speaker 4: I just found it kind of shocking that he'd be

579
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Speaker 4: at least on the practice field trying to give it

580
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Speaker 4: a go so quickly.

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Speaker 3: A couple other items. Black Bowers unsure if he'll play

582
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Speaker 3: on Monday night. I don't know where that came from.

583
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Speaker 3: I know he got hurt and was in and out

584
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Speaker 3: of the Raiders game, but they said he could have

585
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Speaker 3: finished it if it was a big game, And maybe

586
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:51,680
Speaker 3: they were just letting us on a little bit, which

587
00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,639
Speaker 3: coaches are known to do. So keep an eye on that.

588
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Speaker 3: But that would be big for the Chargers if Bowers

589
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Speaker 3: does not suit up and then Ed Oliver seen in

590
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Speaker 3: a walking boot at Bill's practice on Thursday. They did

591
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 3: a walk through on Thursday, which is rare. I've got

592
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 3: an eye on that Bill's Jets game. We've got our

593
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Speaker 3: PIC show with Cynthia Freeland, which will be coming up

594
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Speaker 3: Friday afternoon. What a tease, What a transition. I think

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Speaker 3: that's it, shook. I just think that means it's time

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Speaker 3: for us to go.

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Speaker 4: I agree. I'm waiting for the music to come up

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Speaker 4: because I agree.

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Speaker 2: Let's bona, let's go.

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Speaker 3: We got the we got the tats on the on

601
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Speaker 3: the show here, let's go.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, let's show it.

603
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:32,400
Speaker 4: Oh yeah.

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Speaker 3: I'll be back in the feed Friday afternoon, Cynthia Freeland

605
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Speaker 3: and I making picks against the spread, our three favorite

606
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Speaker 3: of the week.

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Speaker 2: Shook your beauty. We'll see you Sunday,