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Speaker 1: R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: Honey, we are.

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Speaker 1: Thanks take valotie. We are the authority on all R

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Speaker 1: and B ladies and gentleman.

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Speaker 3: My name is Tank Valentine and this, yeah, what is it.

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Speaker 4: It's the R and B Money Podcast, the authority. Come

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Speaker 4: on on all things R and B. Whatever it is,

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Speaker 4: you gotta be good at it. Absolutely gotta have a

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Speaker 4: level of skill mmmm to go along with your conversation.

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Speaker 4: And then sometimes you from a place, you from the water,

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Speaker 4: call that v A. I know a little bit about that.

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Speaker 4: I was raised out there, So we got VA, we

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Speaker 4: got skills. You put all that together and you get.

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Speaker 5: Mad skills in the Yeah, come on, man, how y'all doing?

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Speaker 4: Man? Man, bro Skills is such an underrated word.

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Speaker 6: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And when I hear you and just and and watch

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Speaker 4: just the things that you've skilled, if we can just

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Speaker 4: say that, it's like, what the fuck is that?

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Speaker 6: Yeah? Man, I come from a magical place, you know.

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Speaker 4: A well studied place, and you know, I think I

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Speaker 4: think you being here speaks to the idea of really

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Speaker 4: dialing in to your craft, like really dialing in.

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Speaker 6: Because how many rappers y'all have, maybe like a couple.

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Speaker 3: Not many many? Problem on ot ot on.

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Speaker 6: Not a lot.

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Speaker 1: I think that's saying you.

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Speaker 6: And ship yeah five rappers, I take it, I will

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Speaker 6: take it.

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Speaker 4: But you represent a generation of you represent skills that

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Speaker 4: paid the bills.

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Speaker 2: And it's just the writing, right, Like the writing and

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Speaker 2: obviously because you know, we have our people just like, well,

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Speaker 2: he's not R.

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Speaker 3: And B and once again he's R and B.

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Speaker 2: I'm R and B. This is R and B money,

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Speaker 2: And we're going to have everybody that we believe should

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Speaker 2: be on this show so that people can learn from them.

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Speaker 2: With the fact that, oh, yeah he's a rapper too. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: my bad, my bad, Like you can't do this with

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Speaker 2: mad skills. You know, he got his break battling. What

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Speaker 2: I'm saying that as a battle rapper, I will slide

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Speaker 2: him a couple hundred dollars make yours real quick, taking

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Speaker 2: mad R and B money versus oh my god.

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Speaker 4: I'm just saying on my streets in the hood of Milwaukee, bat.

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Speaker 2: I felt like turning a super high.

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Speaker 1: I did go oh my god.

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Speaker 2: But just the fact of just the writing, the level

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Speaker 2: of writing should be studied. Yeah, seriously, what you've done

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Speaker 2: as a writer and the things that you've written and

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Speaker 2: the things that you've been a part of that people

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Speaker 2: wouldn't even understand.

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Speaker 3: YEA, that needs to be highlighted here.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate type of platform, man, and that's why we're

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Speaker 2: so happy that you showed up for us, man, because

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Speaker 2: this is amazing.

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Speaker 6: Listen to y'all, my guys. Man, there's no way I

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Speaker 6: wasn't going to accept that invite. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I'm happy to be and let's let's get into it.

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Speaker 1: So is is mad skills at birth?

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Speaker 4: Or notice that journey start for you where you're like,

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Speaker 4: this has to be this, this has to be mad skills.

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Speaker 6: I say the first time I heard I remember hearing

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Speaker 6: my mom played music around the house. Of course, so

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Speaker 6: you know, cleanliness was next to golliess. So on the weekends,

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Speaker 6: this machine that she had. So I remember hearing all

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Speaker 6: when these songs were playing. It wasn't never no go

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Speaker 6: go do this because boy, y'all playing too much, stop

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Speaker 6: slaying on my door. It was never that when the

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Speaker 6: It's like, ah, but it's but it's it's jamming. So

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Speaker 6: I remember it being a big conversation from the difference

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Speaker 6: they not singing, there is no don't you know that

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Speaker 6: I'm not hearing that. I'm hearing niggas talking. And I'm like, okay,

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Speaker 6: that's interesting, and I'm young, you know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: I'm young. And then I remember how big of a

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Speaker 6: I remember hearing hard Times by Run DMC on the

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Speaker 6: And when I saw Run DMC on TV, it totally

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Speaker 6: my life, Like Run was the skinny, cocky nigga with

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Speaker 6: his whole aura. And I was like, damn that I

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Speaker 6: could see myself in them. And that's when the music

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. I was already music heavy

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Speaker 6: in my house, but that hip hop thing spoke to

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Speaker 6: me directly. No I can't. I can't sing a lick

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Speaker 6: at Oh yeah, listen, listen, me and my engineer shout

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Speaker 6: my engineer in Jay right here, Jay Wright's he a

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Speaker 6: big fan of the podcast, Me and him, Me and

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Speaker 6: him have we in a group together called Noticing Noticing. Yeah,

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Speaker 6: when we sing, when we when we sing our references,

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Speaker 6: we notice it, you know what I'm saying. Like, So, yeah, no, man,

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Speaker 6: can I can? I can write my ass off, but

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Speaker 6: it was like, oh, I can still get this idea,

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Speaker 6: yeah for sure, and send it out, you know what

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Speaker 6: I mean. And that's how that's how it happened.

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Speaker 3: This thing makes sense.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was hip hop man affected me

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Speaker 6: in a way that it just changed my life from

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Speaker 4: I don't know whereout music did You start writing immediately though,

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Speaker 6: That, immediately immediately in school, writing all day, not failing test.

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Speaker 6: I ain't listening to nobody. I'm trying to write these

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Speaker 6: coming back that somebody told you that. No, No, nobody

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Speaker 6: told me. I'm in ship fifth grade.

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Speaker 3: Self discovery though, self.

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Speaker 6: Discovery, you know what I mean. So I'm knowing that

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Speaker 6: the part they keep saying. I keep coming back to that.

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Speaker 6: So once I started writing songs, man like I want

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Speaker 6: But you know girl in class, I like her, of course,

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Speaker 3: Check check yes, check out play from the start, I.

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Speaker 6: Might have been a player from way way back, my

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Speaker 6: dumb ass. I write the box with yes and no,

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Speaker 6: and then maybe because I don't want to get let down.

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Speaker 6: I don't hard no. So I wrote a song called

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Speaker 6: Maybe maybe not. And I'm talking about I wrote girls girls,

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Speaker 6: three different girls and they all gonna tell me maybe

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Speaker 6: maybe not. That was the hook of my song this

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Speaker 6: fifth sixth grade. You know what I'm saying. Yeah, man, real.

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Speaker 3: Talk, Well, she tell you.

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Speaker 6: One told me yeah, okay, the other one told me no,

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Speaker 6: went with yeah, Right, that's it. Y'all lost time your life?

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Speaker 1: What was what was like?

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Speaker 4: Would you say a turning point into it into it

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Speaker 4: love it. It's you know, I can speak to that

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Speaker 4: don't know what it's doing, you don't know why it's right.

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Speaker 4: At what point did you discover the why and maybe

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Speaker 6: I say, I say, I might have been about fifteen,

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Speaker 6: And of course I'm immersed in hip hop, so we're

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Speaker 6: doing everything cool. We got the shell toes, we got

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Speaker 6: the canos anything, ll got the hat. We getting the

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Speaker 6: fucking hat. You know what I'm saying, the shoes whatever.

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Speaker 6: And then I started I was, I was at this point.

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Speaker 6: I'm an advanced songwriter. You know what I'm saying at

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Speaker 6: this point as far as rap, so I'm for you

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Speaker 6: to know you're in advance. Yeah, I know I'm better

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Speaker 6: than my peers as far as when it comes.

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Speaker 1: To you quarter or anything.

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Speaker 6: No, just no nothing. I just know when you come.

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Speaker 1: Up again, when y'all start rapping in the cipher.

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Speaker 6: Because my thing was because I'm easy, I'm easily. I'm

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Speaker 6: a battle rapper at heart. Because it was about competition,

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Speaker 6: so you got you know, I'm in the you know,

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Speaker 6: I'm watching my friends. They playing basketball, to play football.

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Speaker 6: It's all competition. So this thing that I'm doing now,

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Speaker 6: I ain't want nobody to feel confident enough to go

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Speaker 6: is all right, dog man, we got We're going back

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Speaker 6: to beautiful class that nobody. I don't if you even

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Speaker 6: think that you can start rapping again after me. Were

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Speaker 6: about to have a problem because I don't think you're

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Speaker 6: not You're not better than me. My name is like,

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Speaker 6: it's my name. So we going back and forth in

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Speaker 6: these ciphers, and I'm starting to realize. I was like, damn,

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Speaker 6: I'm really good at this ship. I mean, I'm doing

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Speaker 6: the other stuff to a kind of ratching on the turntables, whatever,

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Speaker 6: you know, I mean, break dancing, spinning on my head,

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Speaker 6: writing in my book. But I'm getting a response from

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Speaker 6: this rap thing. And people are saying, like, yo, he's good.

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Speaker 6: You don't want to fuck him on that. So we

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Speaker 6: battling and I'm you know, I'm really going at it.

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Speaker 6: And then I left. I was in favor of North Carolina.

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Speaker 6: I moved to Richmond, Virginia, and I moved to Richmond,

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Speaker 6: Virginia late late eighties, close to the early nineties. And

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Speaker 6: I'm coming from military town and I go to Richmond,

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Speaker 6: Virginia and it's like it might as well have been

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Speaker 6: New York.

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Speaker 1: To me, are you a military band?

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Speaker 6: No?

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Speaker 3: No, but you're you're just not out there.

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Speaker 6: I just happened to be out there. So I get

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Speaker 6: there and I'm like, Okay, this is dope. They got

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Speaker 6: a fucking city bus, they got a skyline. That shit

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Speaker 6: feels like it's like a baby New York City baby DC.

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Speaker 6: You're like, oh, DC's on your hour fifteen minutes. I'm like, oh,

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Speaker 6: the cat like it's a big thing. So I made

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Speaker 6: that my home. And that's when the dots started connected

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Speaker 6: as far as like, oh, it's people that's really doing this,

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Speaker 6: like this this music thing. And what I would do

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Speaker 6: Was people with studios. You know, we recording and were

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Speaker 2: So had Teddy Riley come down to Virginia yet he

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Speaker 6: Teddy came down. I want to say it was ninety two, right.

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Speaker 6: What do you mean? No, no, no, no, no, Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, of course I know. Teddy Riley is like

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Speaker 6: We listen to that song is ten years old already,

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Speaker 6: We never even seen these cars in real life. We've

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Speaker 3: That's crazy and he's doing Teddy Riley covers.

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Speaker 6: Yes, not even knowing that this man is set set

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Speaker 3: Way because he's a full church kid, gospel.

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Speaker 6: You know what I mean, like and not even supposed

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Speaker 6: It's it's possuzle to make it out of here, D'Angelo.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, And what is your mission at this point now

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Speaker 6: Because I'm watching it in real time? Backtrack? I had

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Speaker 1: How was that I met?

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Speaker 6: I met Q Tip at Jack the Rapper Jack, Rapper

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Speaker 6: We used to. We didn't. We couldn't just upload our

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Speaker 6: So I met q Tip at Jack the Rapper Uh

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Speaker 6: I just identified with that whole native tongue thing. I

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Speaker 6: And it's like it's this big ass tree. It's almost

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Speaker 6: way is this nigga in the tree? Somebody rapping but

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Speaker 6: my cipher skills kicking. No, no, you not about to rap

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Speaker 6: I start rapping and he looking like I'm rapping, dude,

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Speaker 6: I've been training for this. Bam cut him back off

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Speaker 3: Are you still on the tree.

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Speaker 6: I'm off the tree. I'm still in the tree.

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Speaker 1: Balance. This is nice.

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Speaker 6: I'm in the tree. I kill this other dude killing

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Speaker 6: He's looking and stuff, and he keeps looking in my

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Speaker 6: I was like, maxkis you like yo? So you ill? Son? Yo?

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Speaker 6: You so just like like yo, what you about to do?

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Speaker 6: I was like nothing? And he was like you want

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Speaker 6: This is radio station. Like, yo, you're trying to roll.

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Speaker 6: And I was like yeah, so's He's like, all right,

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Speaker 6: And he hits a button on the CD and I here,

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Speaker 6: Right, this is summer. It don't come out to November.

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Speaker 6: Wu Tang Clan. He comes back. I only heard like

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Speaker 6: So I hit the button and I hear his voice, Yo, Son,

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Speaker 6: you know saying the skill this tip. You're trying to

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Speaker 6: far do you live from u v A. We got

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Speaker 6: to pull up son, And I'm like, my life could

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Speaker 6: chake and it did it totally changed. I go to

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Speaker 6: At the end of the show, I'm working at a

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Speaker 6: Q tip then yeah, whatever, like Nika whatever. They have

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Speaker 3: He calls you again, cost me again?

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Speaker 6: Yo, how fuck you live from Hampton. I'm like it,

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Speaker 6: don't I'm going. I go to Hampton, go on stage,

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Speaker 1: I go.

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Speaker 6: The show's over. I walk outside. It's me and my

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Speaker 6: He's like, yo, when you just on stage with Q

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Speaker 6: I got to meet them, and I'm like, I said, yo,

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Speaker 6: I don't I think they I don't know. Bro. Like

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Speaker 6: he's like, no, no, no, he gotta hit my beasts. Man,

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Speaker 6: And I'm looking at the tour bus at the light

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Speaker 6: that's the bus right there, like they about to they

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Speaker 6: going to they going to DC. Like he like he

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Speaker 6: was about to cry. That was Pharrell. That's how I

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Speaker 1: Nowhere.

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Speaker 6: I met Pharrell in the parking lot of a trip

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Speaker 6: Tribe Call Quest fans in Virginia. He looks like he

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Speaker 6: he's like, I said, yo, I said what you do?

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Speaker 6: What's your name? He's like, I make beasts. I rap.

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Speaker 6: I'm like, like, what's your name? He's like magnum verb.

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Speaker 1: Lord, that was just magnum the verb.

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Speaker 3: Lord, I'm so.

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Speaker 6: Magnum verb.

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Speaker 1: He was like, listen, you won't talent all the talent.

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Speaker 6: came to Virginia and he's I always say this, he's

429
00:23:56,680 --> 00:24:01,959
Speaker 6: probably the only super producer that birthed two other super

430
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 6: producers three really Neptunes and tim You know what I'm saying,

431
00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 6: because none of us knew this ship was possible until

432
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 6: fucking Teddy came to Virginia Beach. Real shit.

433
00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 2: I want to ask him that one day too. I

434
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 2: gotta ask Teddy, like, what made you go to Virginia Beach.

435
00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 6: He said that his brother had just got killed in

436
00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:30,080
Speaker 6: New York and the level the ship that was going

437
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:31,919
Speaker 6: on in New York was just too much, and they

438
00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 6: used to always come down during the summer for that Greek.

439
00:24:37,800 --> 00:24:40,280
Speaker 6: I like it out there, shut up shop down there.

440
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: And nobody else was dead nobody. Yeah.

441
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,679
Speaker 4: I didn't hear about Virginia Beach until I didn't hear

442
00:24:46,680 --> 00:24:48,560
Speaker 4: about Virginia Beach until Timberland.

443
00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:51,080
Speaker 2: I didn't hear about it too, Teddy Riley, I heard

444
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 2: about the Timberland. I wanted to know where the rough

445
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 2: Shake video who had been I mean, I was a

446
00:24:58,040 --> 00:24:59,960
Speaker 2: young nigga man. I was trying to figure out what

447
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 2: the Roughshakers was church still.

448
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:06,720
Speaker 1: I was still in church, hadn't quite. I wanted to

449
00:25:06,720 --> 00:25:07,840
Speaker 1: know who was blowing on that hour.

450
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 6: And her name was Tammy. She used to hairy. And

451
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,840
Speaker 6: it's funny because when they did something in the water,

452
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 6: they brought her out. No, no, not shot my man Boogie,

453
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,360
Speaker 6: my man Boogie. We was watching the show and Teddy's

454
00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:34,439
Speaker 6: on stage performing with Black Street or whatever, and my

455
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 6: Man Boogie said, he said, skills. Do you realize that

456
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:44,280
Speaker 6: Teddy is performing at a festival doing the rap that

457
00:25:44,440 --> 00:25:49,200
Speaker 6: is written by the guy that he put on on

458
00:25:49,240 --> 00:25:52,080
Speaker 6: the same beat that they shot the video at in

459
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:55,600
Speaker 6: nineteen ninety three. And I'm like, god, damn, that's a

460
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 6: six degrees of separation that he's standing on this beach

461
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 6: and they shot Rupture at the festival now put on

462
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 6: by You're young, your young boy crazy, who is totally

463
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 6: eclipsed anything that you could have ever imagined as far

464
00:26:13,080 --> 00:26:16,280
Speaker 6: as production wise, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,

465
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,080
Speaker 6: this early nineties when I met Pharrell.

466
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: So you're you're friends with Tip now you meet the

467
00:26:23,920 --> 00:26:36,480
Speaker 4: young Pharrell's getting crazy.

468
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:34,080
Speaker 6: Whenever I'm in, I'm in a I'm a group member.

469
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 1: When is your shot coome?

470
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:43,280
Speaker 6: I get on in ninety I get on in ninety three,

471
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 6: I get a record in ninety four, work on the

472
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:52,240
Speaker 6: record for ninety all year, record, don't come out to

473
00:26:52,359 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 6: ninety six. It Shiit sat for like a year. So

474
00:26:55,320 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 6: by the time, like Craig Calvin, I'm signed the Big

475
00:26:57,960 --> 00:27:01,360
Speaker 6: Beat A land at Craig Calman, Fucking Mike Hearn's an

476
00:27:01,359 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 6: intern Big Beat Atlantic, and it's me. It's me and

477
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 6: this is this group called the Artifacts, and they had

478
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,199
Speaker 6: a group called a Double x Posse. They had a

479
00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,080
Speaker 6: big song called I'm not Gonna be able to do

480
00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:18,000
Speaker 6: it right. So I come out and I'm thinking I'm

481
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 6: gonna change the fucking world like I'm when I come out,

482
00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:25,120
Speaker 6: you know, nigga, when I come out rap, I come

483
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,320
Speaker 6: out moderate hits cool, but it's so old, the song

484
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,480
Speaker 6: so old to me because they've been sitting for a year.

485
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:34,040
Speaker 6: I got plenty more shit now it's ninety six, second

486
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:40,640
Speaker 6: single come out. I'm living in New York and they're

487
00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 6: like ah, And then the shiny suit era happens. So

488
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:53,000
Speaker 6: it's like, fuck, biggiest, biggiest biggie. He's brought the East

489
00:27:53,040 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 6: Coast back. It's Jiggy World, our backpack. Niggas. I don't know. Listen,

490
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: it's I go back home, like I gotta refigure this

491
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,440
Speaker 6: ship out. I go back to work at the parking deck.

492
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 6: I'm literally writing songs every day.

493
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 3: Wait, so what what was it with this parking lot?

494
00:28:16,119 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 6: Man? It was just where I worked that and I

495
00:28:18,800 --> 00:28:22,439
Speaker 6: used to Here's the thing. I worked there, but it

496
00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 6: was so easy. I was right next to the college,

497
00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,080
Speaker 6: so it's plenty of, plenty of I.

498
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 3: Can't They're gonna need somewhere to park.

499
00:28:30,560 --> 00:28:35,920
Speaker 6: They're gonna need somewhere to park. Yeah, oh, you got

500
00:28:35,920 --> 00:28:38,200
Speaker 6: class on Friday twice. You have to. You can't find

501
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 6: a spot of street, you know what I mean. But

502
00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 6: here's the thing. My video is still playing on BT,

503
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:49,400
Speaker 6: so niggas coming out of the parking deck like and

504
00:28:49,400 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, too fifty and they're like, oh, ship, nigga,

505
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:55,760
Speaker 6: I just saw your rap city.

506
00:28:56,160 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 8: What the fuck?

507
00:28:57,640 --> 00:28:59,280
Speaker 6: I'm like, you know, I'm.

508
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 3: Like, how do you I'm how are you handling that?

509
00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 6: I always tell niggas if it was now, Oh, I

510
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:09,520
Speaker 6: would have been a meme. E. That's a sweets shot.

511
00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 6: I would have been a meme. But I just had

512
00:29:12,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 6: a kid. I know. I know a little bit about

513
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:19,239
Speaker 6: the business. Now somebody, Oh, nigga, I need these health benefits. Like,

514
00:29:19,320 --> 00:29:21,800
Speaker 6: I'm not this record. This record deal, shit is real

515
00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:23,200
Speaker 6: fucked up? Right?

516
00:29:23,280 --> 00:29:24,120
Speaker 1: This work for hire?

517
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 6: Right, it's work for hire. Biggie Biggie is going. I'm

518
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 6: on the same label as Junior Mafia. So they're like,

519
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:33,520
Speaker 6: that's where the money go the money is. I know

520
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 6: you've seen me on the video. True, that's where the

521
00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,560
Speaker 6: money went, right. So I'm like, all right, call, I'm

522
00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,760
Speaker 6: into parking. I'm like, I gotta figure this shit out.

523
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 6: People starting to notice me. It's just breaking my soul.

524
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:50,520
Speaker 6: But I'm in there every day, right right. I go

525
00:29:50,560 --> 00:29:55,520
Speaker 6: to Virginia Beach No, the Irony Puff Daddy in the

526
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,960
Speaker 6: Family tour comes to Richmond, Virginia. I go to the show.

527
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,800
Speaker 6: I'm a huge thing into the locks, right, I knew

528
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,960
Speaker 6: them from back in the day. We're kicking it. I

529
00:30:04,040 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 6: go to the show. I got it's my town. Everybody

530
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,480
Speaker 6: know me. I'm front bro. I gotta pass and everything

531
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 6: I see Magoo rest in peace magoo. I see Melvin.

532
00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:20,560
Speaker 6: Melvin say, yo, what's up man? I said, what's up? Man?

533
00:30:20,600 --> 00:30:23,200
Speaker 6: What you doing? I said, I came to see the

534
00:30:23,240 --> 00:30:25,880
Speaker 6: show like everybody else. Hey, man, when your next album

535
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:27,720
Speaker 6: coming out? Man A man that last year you dropped

536
00:30:27,720 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 6: me and they slip on you doll that shit. It's

537
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:31,719
Speaker 6: so hard dog. In my mind, I was like, I

538
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:36,240
Speaker 6: can't tell him, I guy dropped. But something said, Man,

539
00:30:36,320 --> 00:30:40,080
Speaker 6: tell that nigga the truth. And I said, gool man,

540
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 6: I ain't got no album. I ain't. I ain't got

541
00:30:42,000 --> 00:30:45,240
Speaker 6: no situation right now. You ain't got no deal. I said, no,

542
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 6: how the fuck you ain't got no deal, nigga. You

543
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,479
Speaker 6: the first nigga. Only reason niggas no bother Virginia hip

544
00:30:50,520 --> 00:30:52,720
Speaker 6: hop is because you. You ain't got no deal. I said no.

545
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,600
Speaker 6: He said no, No, you got me tilling dog got

546
00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:57,240
Speaker 6: meet you to tell them you got to come with us. Man,

547
00:30:57,560 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 6: you about to be with us? Fuck that. I'm like,

548
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,240
Speaker 6: all right. So he walks me over to town. Who's

549
00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,120
Speaker 6: sitting with Missy and Tim You know, with the with

550
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 6: the light that this nigga.

551
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 1: I love the light handshake.

552
00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 6: Crazy.

553
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:24,680
Speaker 2: The legend of his death, The legendary Spaghettian hand bro.

554
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:28,480
Speaker 6: It's so so weak. I don't know if he just

555
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 6: don't want to give you a dap or what.

556
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 2: What it was?

557
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:34,920
Speaker 4: So Tim is like, it's the equivalent to Michael Jackson's voice.

558
00:31:35,960 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 6: So Magoo is bigging me up to Tim, like, no man,

559
00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:41,440
Speaker 6: he'd have want him tell you his pen dog You finished?

560
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:46,120
Speaker 2: Though, I gotta admit something. I've met the man a

561
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 2: few times. I purposely have not shaken his hand, just

562
00:31:50,560 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 2: because because I just know I'm not gonna be feeling

563
00:31:54,160 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 2: that that legendary death.

564
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 8: So I always whenever somebody's like, yo, this Jay, what's up?

565
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:07,760
Speaker 1: Man? You know he's different now.

566
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:06,040
Speaker 6: I don't know if he was a German for with what.

567
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 6: So Magoo Magoo is bicking me up to Tim and

568
00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,120
Speaker 6: Tim like I come to the studio tomorrow, which is

569
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,040
Speaker 6: Virginia Beach, our fIF team minates where I'm from. I

570
00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:22,320
Speaker 6: go to the studio with Tim. We do six songs

571
00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 6: the next day right which in turn two of them

572
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:30,480
Speaker 6: turned into Tim's Tim's bio which is his first ship,

573
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 6: which Ludo was on Fat Rabbit. I think I had

574
00:32:34,320 --> 00:32:37,040
Speaker 6: had two songs on there, and then I started working

575
00:32:37,040 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 6: with Tim. So I'm in there with Tim, his brother Sebastian,

576
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:45,880
Speaker 6: everybody I meet, Blackground, Joe, Mo what I'm saying all

577
00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 6: of them? And then uh, I hear are you that's

578
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:57,120
Speaker 6: somebody mm hmm, and I'm like, this record's out of here,

579
00:32:57,920 --> 00:33:01,360
Speaker 6: Like this, this record is crazy. So I hear the song,

580
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, Damn, why ain't the why rap over this shit?

581
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,280
Speaker 6: The flow is there, Like Tim, I was like his

582
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 6: verse cool, it's cool. Baby girl's cool. But damn, like

583
00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:12,800
Speaker 6: why he ain't let me on me? I would have

584
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 6: game a killer verse. So in my mind, I'm like,

585
00:33:15,080 --> 00:33:18,360
Speaker 6: all right, man, whatever. Like so I go back home

586
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:20,000
Speaker 6: and now I'm trying to get a couple of my

587
00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 6: homies in. So it was the DJ in the city

588
00:33:22,920 --> 00:33:24,480
Speaker 6: from my say. His name was DJ Reese and he

589
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 6: was working on a mixtape and a good friend of

590
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 6: mine who I was in a group with named Danger Mouth.

591
00:33:30,120 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 6: He rapped on the Leear remix. So when I hear it,

592
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,600
Speaker 6: he bodies it twenty four bars. I'm like, like this

593
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,840
Speaker 6: nigga rapped way too long. But I'm like he killed

594
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 6: the shit. So then we send it to another homeboy

595
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,040
Speaker 6: and he like, shit, I'm getting on that nigga. So

596
00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna get the squad on it.

597
00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,040
Speaker 6: So then I get on it, go back to Tim

598
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,280
Speaker 6: like play him the remix and I'm like what you think?

599
00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:57,520
Speaker 6: He like it's cool, it's cool, say y'all, cal Yeah,

600
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 6: it's dope. It's dope. So I'm like, play the ship

601
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 6: for Joe Moo. You're like, nah, this is crazy. I

602
00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:05,360
Speaker 6: go back home like, yeah, now I'm giving this ship

603
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 6: to my man at work at the radio station. They

604
00:34:08,560 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 6: start playing on the radio station. This is the first

605
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 6: unofficial like every niggas Brodie day. Way two months later,

606
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 6: plaques in the mail. They call us like Aliyah wants

607
00:34:21,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 6: you all to come out with her at the tunnel

608
00:34:23,000 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 6: in New York, Nissan and all them raps, and I'm like, bat,

609
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:32,920
Speaker 6: we go to the tunnel and perform with with Aliyah, Midliney,

610
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 6: Bat dangermin Like we had a crew called the super Friends,

611
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 6: and that was the introduction where I really got in

612
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,520
Speaker 6: good with the camp. You know what I'm saying. And

613
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 6: then Missy goes, yeah, I want to take you on

614
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 6: the road because you remember everything. Like what you mean?

615
00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:53,080
Speaker 6: She's like, you know, Missy ain't never want to be

616
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 6: on the stage. Mona's like, oh, you gotta do this show.

617
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:57,520
Speaker 6: You have to do jay Leno, you gotta do it.

618
00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,120
Speaker 6: Missing I fuck that. I just want to be in

619
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:01,719
Speaker 6: the studio on her like, no, well, we gotta do

620
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 6: Hot nine seven summer jam, and and Sylvia wants she

621
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 6: and she's like, skills, just come because you can remember.

622
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,880
Speaker 6: I don't remember this ship, so I knew when I

623
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,759
Speaker 6: was when Missy was rapping. If she turned and looked

624
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 6: at me, that was finish line. So now I'm Missy's

625
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:18,560
Speaker 6: hype man.

626
00:35:19,080 --> 00:35:21,759
Speaker 3: Hold on, yeah, I remember that.

627
00:35:21,880 --> 00:35:22,799
Speaker 1: I see him.

628
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, get your freaking all that ship. I'm missus hype man.

629
00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:29,600
Speaker 1: You just graduate right into it. Just not not even

630
00:35:29,600 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: audition for.

631
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 6: Not even audition for it. I just happened to be

632
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:34,759
Speaker 6: in the right place at the right time, and I'm

633
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,719
Speaker 6: Missy's hype man. Missy's at the studio and now I'm

634
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:41,839
Speaker 6: seeing I'm seeing this ship in real time because it's like, oh, Chris,

635
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:43,480
Speaker 6: of course I know about the Illiad records.

636
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,480
Speaker 2: She's right for everybody, everybody, and.

637
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 6: She don't want to be an artist. She don't even

638
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 6: want a record deal. And they're like, yo, we'll give

639
00:35:51,000 --> 00:35:53,200
Speaker 6: you a label if you put a record she had

640
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:57,720
Speaker 6: already put our superduo fly Ship went what happens? And

641
00:35:57,719 --> 00:36:00,160
Speaker 6: and I'm like, I'm watching her create these songs that

642
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:02,879
Speaker 6: she don't even want to be an artist. But it's

643
00:36:02,960 --> 00:36:08,120
Speaker 6: literally a purple Lamborghini outside, and I'm like, I gotta

644
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:11,600
Speaker 6: start paying attention to this other shit because I tried

645
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 6: to be in front of the camera. That got me

646
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:16,960
Speaker 6: back at the parking day, so speaking, and try this

647
00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,759
Speaker 6: other ship. And I started paying attention to her and

648
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 6: tim and crafting records and melody and and that's what

649
00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 6: the pen turned into. And that's how it started. So

650
00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:34,719
Speaker 6: now you're talking ninety eight, ninety nine, get your freaking

651
00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:37,200
Speaker 6: on one minute, man, and all that shit, right, And

652
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 6: I'm you know, I'm running around with the black Ground camp.

653
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:43,800
Speaker 6: I'm out here at the Hotel Nico and all this show.

654
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:44,839
Speaker 1: You know what i mean.

655
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,319
Speaker 6: None of you know what I'm saying. But I've never

656
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 6: been to La like that, you know what i mean.

657
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,879
Speaker 6: And I'm out here in all these studios and yeah,

658
00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 6: and I was like, yeah, okay, this is different.

659
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: I like this.

660
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 6: I go like being behind the scenes, you know what

661
00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:58,560
Speaker 6: I'm saying?

662
00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 4: It what is was it a shock for you though,

663
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 4: like in terms of like coming to the I don't

664
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 4: know an understanding or realization that, you know what, maybe.

665
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 1: This is more of what I need to do.

666
00:37:12,080 --> 00:37:14,800
Speaker 6: You know what I understood early writing those songs in

667
00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 6: those parking decks and then watching them go those little

668
00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 6: verses here and there. I understood earlier. I was like, oh,

669
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 6: people like what I say, even if I ain't saying

670
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:33,200
Speaker 6: that right. So for me it was like, all right, cool,

671
00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:36,760
Speaker 6: I'll do that, but not even knowing what I'm really doing.

672
00:37:37,640 --> 00:37:39,520
Speaker 6: And then one time I was in New York. I'm

673
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,919
Speaker 6: in New York. I'm writing for my shit be cause

674
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,040
Speaker 6: timn gotta be back on. I'm on z Man Records,

675
00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,640
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, which never fucking turned into nothing.

676
00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:51,959
Speaker 6: But I'm writing and it's DJ from New York comes

677
00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:54,759
Speaker 6: in and he hears the hook and he's like, Yo,

678
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,319
Speaker 6: this shiit fire, Who this for it? I'm like, it's

679
00:37:56,320 --> 00:37:58,240
Speaker 6: for me. He's like, Yo, this shit doe. You should

680
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 6: let me get it for my project. I was like, yeah,

681
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,839
Speaker 6: like let me finish it. He like, now, just let

682
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:10,680
Speaker 6: me get this. I'm like, nah, but I'm a rapper nigga,

683
00:38:10,760 --> 00:38:12,279
Speaker 6: like let me put a verse. Let me get at

684
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:14,880
Speaker 6: least get one verse on. He's like, no, just let

685
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,000
Speaker 6: me take this. I'm telling you, just let me get this.

686
00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:20,360
Speaker 6: And I'm like, all right, man, Like I give it

687
00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 6: to him. And then they tell me a month lady

688
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 6: of the record coming out. I'm like, what fucking record?

689
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 6: What's he talking about? I hear the record with my

690
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 6: hook and these three other rappers on it. I already

691
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:37,359
Speaker 6: I had already did filled out. I don't know what

692
00:38:37,400 --> 00:38:39,319
Speaker 6: the fuck I was feeling out. They're like, yo, you own.

693
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,479
Speaker 6: I'm like, yeah, all right, whatever, and I'm still thinking

694
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:44,600
Speaker 6: it's fucked up. Man, they ain't put me on the song.

695
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:49,120
Speaker 6: And then the fucking song comes out, and then the

696
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,160
Speaker 6: check comes and I'm like, oh, yeah, I could do this.

697
00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 6: I can't tell you that.

698
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,880
Speaker 3: That's why he was noticed.

699
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 6: A good ghost writer never reveals all his clients. And

700
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 6: that record came out and I was like, oh yeah,

701
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 6: I could do this this and I was like okay,

702
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 6: they and then my name started going around like yo,

703
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:16,880
Speaker 6: who the fuck wrote this? No skills? No skills from

704
00:39:16,920 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 6: VA used to be Missy. Oh yeah, pull that nigga,

705
00:39:19,880 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 6: don't pull up. So my name was in rooms that

706
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,680
Speaker 6: I wasn't in yet, you know what I mean. And

707
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:28,320
Speaker 6: that helped me too. I always and I'm from Virginia,

708
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,120
Speaker 6: so we always got a chip on our shoulder cause

709
00:39:30,200 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: niggas don't never really give us the respect I feel

710
00:39:32,239 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 6: like we deserve. It's like me and us us in

711
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 6: Philly was always like the red head step child of

712
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:39,080
Speaker 6: It's like New York and the niggas is bounced straight

713
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 6: to Atlanta. So I'm like I always, I'm like, nah, nigga,

714
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 6: I'm gonna write ten verses, you know what I mean?

715
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 6: Oh oh, he wrote two, Nigga, I'm right ten. He

716
00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 6: go ten different versions of this fucking song. You're gonna

717
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 6: like one of these motherfuckers. And that's how it started

718
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:54,360
Speaker 6: to happening. Was I would o D because I'm like,

719
00:39:54,400 --> 00:39:55,920
Speaker 6: I can't go back to that parking.

720
00:39:55,640 --> 00:40:00,120
Speaker 1: Den and it was office set, all of it.

721
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: So that's where your mind went where it was like, listen,

722
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,840
Speaker 2: I'm just going to put records on everybody because you

723
00:40:06,880 --> 00:40:08,800
Speaker 2: got that purple Lamborghini in your head.

724
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:09,600
Speaker 9: Because I won't.

725
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,480
Speaker 6: And in my mind then when I did get the bag,

726
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 6: because you always talk about what you do with your

727
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,399
Speaker 6: first check, I got the bag I got got when

728
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 6: got a red BMW right red BMW. So I didn't

729
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,359
Speaker 6: even know that when you have a red car, your.

730
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:29,440
Speaker 3: Insurance insurance is way higher, right.

731
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,960
Speaker 6: So I get it. I got the red Beamer, got

732
00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:34,480
Speaker 6: the red Beamer. And I'm still at the crib or whatever.

733
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 6: And then I'm realizing I will go out and people

734
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,799
Speaker 6: be like, yo, what you as so and so apartments last

735
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:43,040
Speaker 6: Friday night? And I'm like, dad, I can't even move.

736
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,279
Speaker 6: So now I get another card some specific where I

737
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 6: could just move without you know what I mean. And

738
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,520
Speaker 6: I come from a beautiful city, like I love everybody

739
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 6: in my city. They love me like it's a beautiful thing.

740
00:40:56,200 --> 00:40:58,720
Speaker 6: But this is early on when I'm still like building.

741
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 6: So it's like I saw him on TV. I saw

742
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,399
Speaker 6: my so and so. You know you got the ran car.

743
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 6: You know you get his haircut at.

744
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 1: So and so.

745
00:41:04,480 --> 00:41:08,719
Speaker 6: So It's like I'm moving weird. But yeah, man, that was.

746
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,759
Speaker 4: It's like people track you but don't realize what they're doing.

747
00:41:11,800 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying right and giving that information.

748
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,919
Speaker 6: And early two thousands, you know what I mean. One minute,

749
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:23,840
Speaker 6: I'm on spring Bling and with Missy and Little Mogga

750
00:41:24,080 --> 00:41:26,040
Speaker 6: I mean, and then the next minute I'm at you

751
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,600
Speaker 6: know what I mean, this this hot ninety seven or whatever,

752
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 6: because Missy was really like, no, mony, skills gotta come.

753
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 6: I ain't doing the show. Un let skills come. And

754
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 6: I'm traveling with Missy doing all these shows and ship

755
00:41:39,000 --> 00:41:40,760
Speaker 6: and just learning the business. Man.

756
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,760
Speaker 4: I want to I want to ask you this because

757
00:41:44,239 --> 00:41:48,960
Speaker 4: when I was singing backgrounds with genuine, I thought that

758
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:52,880
Speaker 4: that was going to be my job for life. And

759
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:58,879
Speaker 4: I was so happy to carry those bags, right and

760
00:41:58,920 --> 00:42:03,960
Speaker 4: to sing those bags. I said, I can do this forever.

761
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:04,320
Speaker 6: Right.

762
00:42:05,040 --> 00:42:06,600
Speaker 1: G was like, now you gotta go do your own thing.

763
00:42:06,680 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: I was like, fuck my own thing? Like you got

764
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:15,319
Speaker 1: going on, like you got going. I like what you're doing.

765
00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:17,840
Speaker 1: How did that feel?

766
00:42:18,040 --> 00:42:18,160
Speaker 6: Like?

767
00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:22,360
Speaker 1: Bro, you're you're standing side by side with Missy.

768
00:42:22,160 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 6: And the crazy boys. You gotta think I came out first, right,

769
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,040
Speaker 6: So it's like I came out and it turned into

770
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 6: a synergy of or m v A niggas stick together,

771
00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Because he was the first one.

772
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,400
Speaker 6: Then he was the first it was di'angelo, you know

773
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:38,719
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But it was weird because when DiAngelo

774
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 6: dropped he dropped. It was critically he claimed it was amazing,

775
00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 6: but it was that he never really said where he

776
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,400
Speaker 6: was from, you know what I'm saying, and niggas in

777
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 6: the city, niggas in the town. He was like, man,

778
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:51,080
Speaker 6: that nigga don't be he don't be represented. I'm like, nigga,

779
00:42:51,120 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 6: he sing R and B, Like, what the fuck you

780
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,280
Speaker 6: wanted to do? He's supposed making a song called Cruising

781
00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:57,920
Speaker 6: in Virginia, Like what the fuck? Like, what are you

782
00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 6: supposed to have a Virginia jersey?

783
00:43:01,080 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 1: Right?

784
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,040
Speaker 6: But I'm like, the hood wanted that, and I'm like,

785
00:43:03,040 --> 00:43:04,959
Speaker 6: all right, I'll be that, you know what I'm saying.

786
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 6: So it's like to see us all together like Missy

787
00:43:09,239 --> 00:43:14,000
Speaker 6: tam Leah Seanna, you know what I'm saying, like everybody like,

788
00:43:14,120 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 6: and we all sticking together and doing these shows. It's

789
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,560
Speaker 6: like I almost was like, we're like a real like

790
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:24,200
Speaker 6: the Avengers, you know what I'm saying, And you forrell

791
00:43:24,239 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 6: of them hadn't even really made an impact because Teddy

792
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 6: had no clue what the fuck to do with them niggas,

793
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:32,640
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, right, But they're making in

794
00:43:33,400 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 6: in you know, ninety four, they're making songs that sound

795
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 6: like twenty twenty five. So it's like, I don't even

796
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 6: know what to do with this shit, and it sounded

797
00:43:43,880 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 6: futuristic then, so he just had to let them do

798
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:49,759
Speaker 6: their own thing, and they found their way, you know

799
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And between Tim and Pharrell, they basically changed,

800
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,360
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, they changed the whole landscape

801
00:43:57,400 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 6: of music, you know what I'm saying.

802
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: So, and then you and then you have Chris Brown, yes,

803
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:05,840
Speaker 3: and then you have Trey song yes.

804
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 6: Like I'm from a magical place different.

805
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 3: And then when you start and then if you can

806
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:15,319
Speaker 3: pile it and do the whole D m V thing.

807
00:44:16,880 --> 00:44:17,879
Speaker 1: Now, your niggas.

808
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:23,480
Speaker 6: Is always say, I always say, the reason why we

809
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 6: were so original because we knew what we couldn't do.

810
00:44:28,360 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 6: We couldn't make bass booty music. Atlanta and Miami already

811
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:37,800
Speaker 6: did that. DC had Go Go, Baltimore had fucking house

812
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:42,520
Speaker 6: house music, Baltimore, New York had to boom back. L

813
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 6: A had the g funk Ship, Houston, Texas had the

814
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 6: chopping screws. So when you go in the studio, you

815
00:44:47,640 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 6: know exactly what you can't do, so you're gonna fucking

816
00:44:51,600 --> 00:44:55,520
Speaker 6: sample Godzilla or a baby, you know what I'm saying.

817
00:44:55,920 --> 00:44:57,920
Speaker 1: He was just ill for that though, he was just

818
00:44:58,000 --> 00:44:58,960
Speaker 1: out of his mind.

819
00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 6: Because I've never seen anybody beat box exactly what they

820
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:05,520
Speaker 6: want to make and then go over there and make it.

821
00:45:06,400 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 6: I've never seen the motherfucker just like, nah, that shit

822
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:13,040
Speaker 6: gonna go boo boooo and then go over there and

823
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 6: do it. And it sounds exactly like you know what

824
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So I'm watching him work, you know, with

825
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,399
Speaker 6: fucking Bill Petaway there, Bill, you know what I mean.

826
00:45:22,520 --> 00:45:25,440
Speaker 6: Goddamn girl, you know it's true, Bill Petaway ass, you

827
00:45:25,520 --> 00:45:28,160
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So it's like I'm I'm around

828
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 6: this ship and I'm watching it happen, and I'm like, yo,

829
00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 6: that this ship is crazy. These niggas are really changing,

830
00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 6: and it's like everything is dropping. And then fucking Farrell

831
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 6: comes out, the Neptunes come out, and it's like he's

832
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:46,560
Speaker 6: a savant, you know what I mean, Like he hears

833
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:48,920
Speaker 6: it different. And then you get Chad to come in

834
00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,319
Speaker 6: and he put the bells and whistles on this ship.

835
00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 6: And then the next thing I know, fucking Justin is

836
00:45:54,600 --> 00:45:57,520
Speaker 6: in this studio doing Senorita and Nori's in this studio

837
00:45:57,600 --> 00:45:59,799
Speaker 6: doing nothing, and I'm like, damn, these niggas got a

838
00:46:00,440 --> 00:46:03,240
Speaker 6: to Virginia. Right then you add in the bink bink

839
00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:06,040
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, and knots you know what

840
00:46:06,080 --> 00:46:06,520
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

841
00:46:06,600 --> 00:46:10,680
Speaker 2: So it's like in your contribution, Yeah, this R and

842
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:12,919
Speaker 2: B thing. Yes, hold on, hold on, hold on because

843
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 2: Tank don't know this. I know this because it's the

844
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,759
Speaker 2: reason we know each other. You taught Harold Lily how

845
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: to write songs?

846
00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 9: Yes, yes, nowhere.

847
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:37,439
Speaker 3: How about that? Tank?

848
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 6: Yeah?

849
00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:41,520
Speaker 8: Now you now, you fucker want to know why he really?

850
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: No way?

851
00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 6: Harold Lily was in the ninth grade. I was in

852
00:46:46,120 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 6: the twelfth grade. I used to pick him up and

853
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:52,880
Speaker 6: I used to take him in the car we go driving.

854
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,040
Speaker 6: So I get in the car with Harold and I'm

855
00:46:55,040 --> 00:47:00,760
Speaker 6: playing Harold Jobsy. I'm playing Harold boys the Men and

856
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 6: he like this my o G. I'm playing him Wou

857
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 6: Tang Clan. It's this new nigga coming out of New

858
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,520
Speaker 6: York named Notorist big Is. It's his record called Flavoring

859
00:47:08,560 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 6: Your Ears. You gotta hit the shit. I'm playing him

860
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:11,920
Speaker 6: all the new shit because I'm getting all I'm going

861
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,799
Speaker 6: back and forth to New York every fucking weekend, try

862
00:47:14,800 --> 00:47:18,680
Speaker 6: and get on. So then Harold's watching me and that's

863
00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 6: my younger. And then he see me on TV and

864
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,520
Speaker 6: he's like, oh shit, this nigga made it between him

865
00:47:24,719 --> 00:47:28,920
Speaker 6: and fucking Michael Archer. I got I gotta figured out.

866
00:47:28,920 --> 00:47:32,480
Speaker 6: I got videos of Harold singing dedication dedicated at the

867
00:47:32,520 --> 00:47:35,720
Speaker 6: Talent show. You know what I'm saying, like little Harold Lilly,

868
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:41,160
Speaker 6: which we I knew it because he was so good

869
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,400
Speaker 6: at such a young age, and he was he was studied.

870
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 6: So when Harold first came out here, shit, Harold came

871
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:50,000
Speaker 6: to I want to say, Harold came out in like

872
00:47:50,040 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 6: the two thousands, you know what I mean, And he

873
00:47:54,239 --> 00:47:56,120
Speaker 6: had no clue what the fuck he was doing because

874
00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:59,560
Speaker 6: Missy had everybody, and that everybody signed the deal. And

875
00:47:59,560 --> 00:48:02,279
Speaker 6: then Harold was like, I don't know, man, my mama said,

876
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:06,400
Speaker 6: I don't know. And then and then this other nigga

877
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 6: called him named Big John, and he like, man, my

878
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:13,000
Speaker 6: mama said. So everybody was mad at Harold because Harold

879
00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:17,399
Speaker 6: ain't take the deal, but he took something that went

880
00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:21,200
Speaker 6: down with Big John and that turned into way to

881
00:48:21,200 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 6: turn away. Harold got his first check. He tried to

882
00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 6: fucking catch it at the check cash his bock. He

883
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,680
Speaker 6: ain't what the doing. I ain't you know, he ain't

884
00:48:28,680 --> 00:48:35,080
Speaker 6: have a bank account. You're gonna give away like so Harold,

885
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:36,719
Speaker 6: you know. And then and it was like when he

886
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:39,120
Speaker 6: came out here, when he came to La, it was

887
00:48:39,120 --> 00:48:40,719
Speaker 6: like we didn't know. He just had his head down.

888
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 6: He was working. Because Harold's a reader. Harold read because

889
00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 6: he's like, when I came to LA, I ain't know nobody.

890
00:48:46,360 --> 00:48:47,920
Speaker 6: So you know who was my friends, my.

891
00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:48,760
Speaker 1: Book the books.

892
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:53,279
Speaker 6: So Harold will talk you. So when every time I

893
00:48:53,320 --> 00:48:55,919
Speaker 6: walk into a room, Harold will tell you, like, soon

894
00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:57,360
Speaker 6: we walk in the room, it don't matter who in

895
00:48:57,400 --> 00:48:59,680
Speaker 6: the room. Hey, this is the nigga that wrote me songs, thog.

896
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,920
Speaker 6: This nigga showed me how to write. And I'd be like,

897
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:11,319
Speaker 6: come on, bro, come on's Swiss and Lisha bro Alicia. Yeah,

898
00:49:11,480 --> 00:49:14,320
Speaker 6: this this is my old g This this who showed

899
00:49:14,320 --> 00:49:17,680
Speaker 6: me the way. Come on, man, Like I'm just you

900
00:49:17,680 --> 00:49:18,000
Speaker 6: know what I mean?

901
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,040
Speaker 3: They like, who is this one of the greatest humans

902
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 3: on the planet.

903
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 6: Yes, I love him. I just saw I love him

904
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 6: to death. Man, he's still one of the most inspirational

905
00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 6: people I ever met in my life. He still inspires

906
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:29,160
Speaker 6: me to this day. Love her Lily.

907
00:49:30,719 --> 00:49:31,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, that Virginian thing.

908
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:35,319
Speaker 6: Man. You know, I'm just and that's why we're so

909
00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:36,879
Speaker 6: in the back.

910
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:39,719
Speaker 4: This ghost rider thing has just got me. Like, you know,

911
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,160
Speaker 4: I'm reeling right now, you know what I'm saying. I've

912
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,359
Speaker 4: seen so many pieces that I know you've written, and

913
00:49:45,400 --> 00:49:47,759
Speaker 4: now I know that there's so many pieces that I

914
00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:48,520
Speaker 4: don't know.

915
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,400
Speaker 1: I'm itching, you know what I'm saying.

916
00:49:53,320 --> 00:49:58,240
Speaker 4: But it's like you have to, like there's a certain

917
00:49:58,320 --> 00:50:02,120
Speaker 4: joy that comes along with, you know, being able to

918
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 4: sit back and watch your work work. Yes, I remember

919
00:50:06,080 --> 00:50:08,719
Speaker 4: when in the beginning of my career, like I didn't

920
00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,200
Speaker 4: want to write or produce for nobody. I did out

921
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:15,640
Speaker 4: of necessity, But once I got on, I ain't want

922
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 4: to no more my music just for me. And I

923
00:50:19,239 --> 00:50:21,879
Speaker 4: got in, you know, I got into a little beef

924
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:27,279
Speaker 4: with the label with burying them, and you know, I

925
00:50:27,280 --> 00:50:31,800
Speaker 4: got put on the shelf and I was cold, and

926
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:35,080
Speaker 4: I was like, fuck, how am I gonna eat? And

927
00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 4: so I just kind of started peeking my head into

928
00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 4: like writing and producing. End up at the Underdog building

929
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:48,520
Speaker 4: end up meeting this guy and starts going down this

930
00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:54,799
Speaker 4: journey of writing hit records. And my first time like

931
00:50:55,760 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 4: having that true satisfaction of seeing my work work. I

932
00:51:01,440 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 4: was watching No Mario on stage wrote that, Oh and

933
00:51:05,440 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 4: I'm sitting back at the sound booth. I mean because

934
00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 4: normally that's me, right, you know what I'm saying, But

935
00:51:11,800 --> 00:51:15,879
Speaker 4: it can't be. And it's like I walk in the buildings. Man,

936
00:51:16,440 --> 00:51:20,200
Speaker 4: it's it's it's not even it's not even a thing anymore.

937
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:22,319
Speaker 4: I'm not even tank walking, like you know what I'm saying.

938
00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:24,560
Speaker 4: I don't nobody want to autograph, maybe like one person

939
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,359
Speaker 4: when you get a picture, but.

940
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:32,000
Speaker 2: Your mean moment, I mean for me right right right.

941
00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:34,520
Speaker 4: At this point, I'm pulling up in a in a

942
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 4: for that escort stick shift, rolling wind or nothing like

943
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:42,319
Speaker 4: this right now, you know what I'm saying. But I'm

944
00:51:42,360 --> 00:51:45,479
Speaker 4: watching my work work. And that was the first time

945
00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:48,880
Speaker 4: I had ever gotten true satisfaction.

946
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,439
Speaker 1: For where I was like, I can do.

947
00:51:50,360 --> 00:51:54,239
Speaker 8: This what you got over the champ, Come on, champion.

948
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: That's I gotta display my skills. Mad skills is what

949
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 4: they call them. Yes, and your journey's your musical Josey.

950
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:21,120
Speaker 4: It hasn't just been hip hop. That's where the love began.

951
00:52:21,239 --> 00:52:25,680
Speaker 4: But during those clean up sessions, you heard a lot

952
00:52:25,680 --> 00:52:30,399
Speaker 4: of rms' also written.

953
00:52:32,719 --> 00:52:34,200
Speaker 1: Some R and B m hm.

954
00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,160
Speaker 4: And on his journey, you've you've you've discovered that you

955
00:52:40,320 --> 00:52:45,120
Speaker 4: have some favorites I do. We don't want to know

956
00:52:45,160 --> 00:52:48,320
Speaker 4: all your favorites skills.

957
00:52:49,719 --> 00:52:51,040
Speaker 3: Because he's not mad anymore.

958
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:52,440
Speaker 6: I'm still madking.

959
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,280
Speaker 2: You're back, You're back to mad skills.

960
00:52:55,320 --> 00:52:56,520
Speaker 1: We just want to know.

961
00:52:56,480 --> 00:53:00,520
Speaker 4: Your top five.

962
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, your top five?

963
00:53:05,000 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 6: You know how your fun.

964
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,920
Speaker 9: Top five?

965
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:19,280
Speaker 7: Hey, your top five RB singer winning alre this song,

966
00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,440
Speaker 7: this is a shoe. Please want the no steals on

967
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:27,280
Speaker 7: the pool.

968
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:30,160
Speaker 6: We got the gore. We're going.

969
00:53:33,360 --> 00:53:45,960
Speaker 1: Yes, your.

970
00:53:49,120 --> 00:54:02,560
Speaker 6: Fuck amazing, amazing.

971
00:54:03,719 --> 00:54:11,160
Speaker 4: Yes, sir, mad skills. Yes, your top five R and

972
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,960
Speaker 4: B singers. Mm hmmm mm hmm.

973
00:54:16,160 --> 00:54:16,919
Speaker 6: I wrote them down.

974
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 1: I know you, We know you right, That's what we

975
00:54:21,560 --> 00:54:22,360
Speaker 1: do now, I'm a writer.

976
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 6: Number five is Stevie Wonder off the Red Start the

977
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:32,920
Speaker 6: start there. Number four, it's a little sister of the bunch.

978
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:38,439
Speaker 6: That would be Janet mm hmmm. Because niggas never put

979
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:39,480
Speaker 6: her in texture.

980
00:54:40,200 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: You gonna feel.

981
00:54:43,320 --> 00:54:49,160
Speaker 6: Then we're going to nippy huh. Whitney Houston, The Voice,

982
00:54:50,040 --> 00:54:59,200
Speaker 6: The Voice, Number two, Prince mm hmm, I'm on, Prince,

983
00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:04,480
Speaker 6: are you? And Colorful Purple be exact the nineties girl

984
00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:10,400
Speaker 6: Purple Brunch number one all time, Mike.

985
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 3: Come on, come on, Joseph High Yeah, Jacks Yeah.

986
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:18,439
Speaker 1: It's so many mics too, Like it covers all the ground.

987
00:55:18,320 --> 00:55:23,480
Speaker 6: Every all the ground I've never and I hate the

988
00:55:23,520 --> 00:55:26,080
Speaker 6: set of debates now where people are like, oh yeah,

989
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:30,360
Speaker 6: oh Drake that no no, because y'all want a round.

990
00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:35,640
Speaker 6: When we were y'all didn't see grown men faint and

991
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,480
Speaker 6: get carried out.

992
00:55:37,520 --> 00:55:40,520
Speaker 1: Your top five R and B songs.

993
00:55:41,160 --> 00:55:43,480
Speaker 6: I wrote those down to because I'm a writer.

994
00:55:44,400 --> 00:55:45,440
Speaker 3: For yourself and others.

995
00:55:45,800 --> 00:55:53,520
Speaker 6: Okay, five hands down?

996
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 1: Love it.

997
00:55:56,760 --> 00:56:05,440
Speaker 6: Doom dude, mm hmmmm. Ass Stevie Wonder probably one of

998
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,720
Speaker 6: the most beautiful songs I've ever heard in my life,

999
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:16,319
Speaker 6: Like it automatically changes your mood when you hear it. Right,

1000
00:56:17,080 --> 00:56:25,720
Speaker 6: that's five four I Got, I Got the South Side, Richmond, Virginia.

1001
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:32,719
Speaker 6: How does it feel? Come on? Did' angelo Raphaelsa Di.

1002
00:56:34,239 --> 00:56:40,239
Speaker 1: Pemo Life Changing record? The changed that record, My life.

1003
00:56:40,600 --> 00:56:47,719
Speaker 6: That record alone, Pright that record by itself? You know,

1004
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:52,799
Speaker 6: you know how it's only a few niggas that can

1005
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:57,320
Speaker 6: disappear totally from the face of earth, from the face

1006
00:56:57,360 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 6: of music, and come back whenever they want to.

1007
00:57:00,600 --> 00:57:01,359
Speaker 3: He's one of them.

1008
00:57:01,400 --> 00:57:04,719
Speaker 6: He's one of them. If that nigga announced right now

1009
00:57:04,800 --> 00:57:08,120
Speaker 6: tomorrow yo, I'm doing it in the form tomorrow night.

1010
00:57:08,960 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 1: We were all going going.

1011
00:57:12,280 --> 00:57:19,080
Speaker 6: How does it feel, Maxwell? Anytime you come outside outside,

1012
00:57:19,080 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 6: were outside.

1013
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:22,600
Speaker 4: The Angelo, How does it feel? I want to shout

1014
00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,520
Speaker 4: out to the A n R. Who said we have

1015
00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:32,200
Speaker 4: to do another single. Yes, that was single number three.

1016
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:39,320
Speaker 6: Yes, I think the first one was Left and Right methods. Yeah,

1017
00:57:40,760 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 6: that one, I can't remember what The other one was

1018
00:57:43,080 --> 00:57:47,080
Speaker 6: Left Devils was off for there. I remember they shot

1019
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,600
Speaker 6: a video for us send it on. It was a

1020
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:54,960
Speaker 6: live video that was Anthony Hamilton was singing backgrounds then

1021
00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:57,840
Speaker 6: with paint on his face.

1022
00:57:58,720 --> 00:58:03,440
Speaker 4: Somebody said we have to get this record before it

1023
00:58:04,040 --> 00:58:06,400
Speaker 4: because it wasn't It wasn't it wasn't nothing, It wasn't.

1024
00:58:06,240 --> 00:58:10,000
Speaker 6: Connected right, No, and then it all changed.

1025
00:58:10,080 --> 00:58:11,040
Speaker 1: And then when that.

1026
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:24,480
Speaker 6: God, damn that snare and that fucking and that it's

1027
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:28,040
Speaker 6: almost one of the ones where it's like, damn, I wish,

1028
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:31,320
Speaker 6: I wish, I wish when people always ask me and

1029
00:58:31,600 --> 00:58:34,520
Speaker 6: I and I always think it's like they'd be like,

1030
00:58:34,560 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 6: what records if it wasn't a record, what record did

1031
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,040
Speaker 6: you wish you wrote with skills? I'm like, my first

1032
00:58:40,080 --> 00:58:45,960
Speaker 6: one is always Happy Birthday, Nigga, Happy Birthday. I wish

1033
00:58:46,000 --> 00:58:48,479
Speaker 6: I wrote Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday Nigga who.

1034
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:50,080
Speaker 3: Wrote Happy Birthday didn't make no money off Heavy.

1035
00:58:50,120 --> 00:58:51,520
Speaker 6: But I'm just I wish I were a time when

1036
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:56,400
Speaker 6: I lost Happy Birthday and I always loved those are

1037
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,720
Speaker 6: always my two right, So that record, it's like hearing

1038
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:04,400
Speaker 6: how does it feel? Always you? Just like I just

1039
00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,640
Speaker 6: wish I could have been in the room. Yeah you

1040
00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:07,960
Speaker 6: know what I mean. I wish I could have been

1041
00:59:07,960 --> 00:59:10,400
Speaker 6: in the b room next door just to hear that.

1042
00:59:11,120 --> 00:59:15,600
Speaker 4: So, and I'm a musician. What they did with that musically, Yeah,

1043
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: they were high.

1044
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:18,640
Speaker 6: No, it had to be.

1045
00:59:18,760 --> 00:59:20,600
Speaker 1: That's got to be an LSD record.

1046
00:59:21,320 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 6: Had to be. So that's that's four. Three is a tie.

1047
00:59:27,120 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 6: Three is two two records, you're artists. Three is Real

1048
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:44,640
Speaker 6: Love Themix Real Love number two because it never goes away.

1049
00:59:45,000 --> 00:59:50,040
Speaker 6: It's it's synonymous with us, and it's certain. It's it's

1050
00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 6: a certain thing about having records that they just click.

1051
00:59:54,280 --> 01:00:05,000
Speaker 6: So anytime you hear mm hmm, bro before I let go.

1052
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:12,000
Speaker 6: Is the perfect It's so it's so perfect. Here's the thing.

1053
01:00:12,440 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 6: It's so perfect that we're not even paying attention to

1054
01:00:15,200 --> 01:00:15,960
Speaker 6: what he's saying.

1055
01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:27,120
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, he's a professional at this, a professional this

1056
01:00:27,280 --> 01:00:27,680
Speaker 8: right here.

1057
01:00:28,360 --> 01:00:31,040
Speaker 1: I ain't saying no nick, I ain't saying no names.

1058
01:00:31,480 --> 01:00:32,520
Speaker 6: I ain't saying no name.

1059
01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:43,600
Speaker 10: I ain't saying what you didn't saying no name.

1060
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:54,600
Speaker 8: Oh ship, Oh god, come on, come on, come on, skills.

1061
01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,360
Speaker 1: You know you know what this is.

1062
01:00:56,400 --> 01:01:00,120
Speaker 2: You come on, you you've been quoting already something the

1063
01:01:00,120 --> 01:01:01,320
Speaker 2: ship we be saying on the show.

1064
01:01:01,360 --> 01:01:02,439
Speaker 3: So I know you watched the show.

1065
01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:03,760
Speaker 1: You know what I mean.

1066
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,640
Speaker 3: So you know what this part of the show is.

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Speaker 2: You know what this segment means, all right, and you

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01:01:08,080 --> 01:01:09,760
Speaker 2: know you can't disappoint in this segment.

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Speaker 6: Man, we know already.

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Speaker 2: Okay for me, for you start, I got to introduce

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01:01:15,680 --> 01:01:17,200
Speaker 2: it though, you know what I mean, I can't.

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01:01:17,240 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 1: I gotta give it to you the proper way.

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Speaker 8: Man.

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Speaker 1: Pause, then to get out of there, Get me out

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01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:22,400
Speaker 1: of there.

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Speaker 2: It is what it is, the Boss Show. So right

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Speaker 2: now you are here on the r and b Money Podcast.

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01:01:34,040 --> 01:01:37,600
Speaker 2: Very important segment that I Ain't saying no names portion,

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01:01:38,280 --> 01:01:42,160
Speaker 2: Will you tell us a story? Funnier fucked up in

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01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 2: the Journey of Mad Skills Skills VA the ship. You've

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01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,919
Speaker 2: seen shit, you've experienced.

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01:01:51,240 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: The only rule to the game. You can't say no name.

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Speaker 6: Okay, you all ready absolutely all right. It's early two

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01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:05,280
Speaker 6: thousands now, we already talked about my journey Missy Q

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01:02:05,520 --> 01:02:13,920
Speaker 6: tip Timberland. For real. I'm out here working writing some

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01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:19,919
Speaker 6: hip hop songs. Nice studio, beautiful day in La. I'm

1087
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:27,080
Speaker 6: in here for a week. They tell me I ain't

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01:02:27,080 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 6: saying no name, is working out the A room. I'm like,

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01:02:30,560 --> 01:02:36,120
Speaker 6: oh shit, really he ain't here this week? Yeah, all right, cool,

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01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 6: that's dope. A couple of days later, see him in

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Speaker 6: the hallway, speak, Oh what's up man? What's up? Bro?

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Speaker 6: What you're working on? Man? You know? At this point,

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01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 6: I'm I think I was on I might have been

1094
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:56,280
Speaker 6: on Rockets or some shit. Well I wasn't. I definitely

1095
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,160
Speaker 6: went on No A list, but I want no death

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01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:01,560
Speaker 6: jam mouthers bitch might have been Rockers or cotch right,

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01:03:01,720 --> 01:03:04,360
Speaker 6: one of them. Niggas only gave me twenty five thousand

1098
01:03:04,680 --> 01:03:07,480
Speaker 6: leaven make an album. So I'm making this album on favorites.

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01:03:08,600 --> 01:03:11,680
Speaker 6: We in this studio on a favor See him in

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01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:23,240
Speaker 6: the hallway. R and b artists got two smashes and

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01:03:23,240 --> 01:03:26,760
Speaker 6: one of them a ballot, and this ballot got niggas

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01:03:26,760 --> 01:03:33,000
Speaker 6: in the choke hold. Budget is right, Videos is crispy,

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01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 6: Chris Robinson ish and hype, you know what I mean?

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Speaker 1: Videos looking video one.

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Speaker 6: O six part every day And he said, what you're

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01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:47,200
Speaker 6: working on? Its working on some hip hop. Said I'm

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01:03:47,200 --> 01:03:50,439
Speaker 6: gonna come and check your shit out. All right, cool bet,

1108
01:03:52,360 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 6: come to the studio, listen to some of my ship.

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01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:57,520
Speaker 6: She kod me help me, man, I want to write.

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01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:02,640
Speaker 6: I want to raise some raps too. I said, yeah, sure, yeah,

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01:04:03,560 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 6: I'm dead serious man. I want to do some hip

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01:04:05,280 --> 01:04:07,280
Speaker 6: hop ship like you know, that's that's what my heart

1113
01:04:07,400 --> 01:04:11,439
Speaker 6: is really and in my mind I'm going I wish

1114
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 6: I had your career right now? You white hot? What

1115
01:04:16,320 --> 01:04:17,680
Speaker 6: do you mean you want? Fuck?

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01:04:17,760 --> 01:04:18,080
Speaker 8: You mean?

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01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:19,360
Speaker 10: Nah?

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01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:22,800
Speaker 6: Man, we gotta do some ship totally abandons this session.

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01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:27,760
Speaker 6: Come into my ship. He got beats, put him on

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Speaker 6: a CD. What you think about this? Some cool ship?

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01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:34,480
Speaker 6: Like yeah, I was thinking that like this nigga really

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01:04:34,520 --> 01:04:37,680
Speaker 6: wanted to work right now. All right, we start working

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Speaker 6: on some records. Do a couple of songs, come back

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01:04:42,320 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 6: the next day, do some more songs come back to

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Speaker 6: the third day, we do. We damn fucking got an album.

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01:04:50,560 --> 01:04:52,360
Speaker 6: He like, yeah, man, this this is where I really

1127
01:04:52,400 --> 01:04:55,880
Speaker 6: want to be. Y'all. Y'all can express y'allself in a

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Speaker 6: different way. Third day that he comes in the studio

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01:05:00,280 --> 01:05:03,720
Speaker 6: engineer hit play. He goes in the booth to beat

1130
01:05:03,760 --> 01:05:05,760
Speaker 6: us up. I kind of mumbled out a little hook.

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01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,440
Speaker 6: He like, I'm I'm I think I'm I'm gonna throw

1132
01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,200
Speaker 6: some mumbles on the see see if I can get

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01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:12,080
Speaker 6: into a pocket. I said, go do a scratch oog

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01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:17,400
Speaker 6: man h check yo. For all my niggas and my bitches,

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01:05:22,680 --> 01:05:29,240
Speaker 6: all the records before this was cool, very cool. He

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01:05:29,320 --> 01:05:34,040
Speaker 6: had cursed once my niggas in my pitches. For the

1137
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:36,880
Speaker 6: pitches and the niggas. I'm like, yo, this nigga rapping

1138
01:05:37,000 --> 01:05:40,760
Speaker 6: like dn Max got off. He comes outside, Nah, this

1139
01:05:40,920 --> 01:05:43,960
Speaker 6: the one that little part right there, We're gonna make

1140
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:47,320
Speaker 6: that the hook. That's gonna be my verse and my mom.

1141
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:54,720
Speaker 6: I'm like, you sound like Earl Simmons. He's dad serious,

1142
01:05:55,680 --> 01:06:02,120
Speaker 6: this is gonna be my single. I'm like, you're putt

1143
01:06:02,120 --> 01:06:04,880
Speaker 6: out a rap out. Yeah, bro, you're gonna help me.

1144
01:06:06,720 --> 01:06:10,120
Speaker 6: I said, ship, I'm thinking about it. Ain't gonna this

1145
01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:15,800
Speaker 6: ain't gonna fly. The ballad that you have is so big.

1146
01:06:16,680 --> 01:06:19,800
Speaker 6: There's no way you can ever say the word bitch

1147
01:06:19,920 --> 01:06:25,040
Speaker 6: in your life. Black women will leave you and they

1148
01:06:25,240 --> 01:06:28,200
Speaker 6: love you right now. You can't ever say the b

1149
01:06:28,360 --> 01:06:32,200
Speaker 6: word in a song. But this ship, this ship just

1150
01:06:32,240 --> 01:06:36,520
Speaker 6: fell in my lap. Earl Simmons on it. That's how

1151
01:06:36,520 --> 01:06:38,840
Speaker 6: he's saying recipes and he sound the niggas and bitches

1152
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:41,880
Speaker 6: on the song and he's saying bitch like bitches.

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01:06:42,320 --> 01:06:43,160
Speaker 3: Not a nice way.

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01:06:43,440 --> 01:06:44,960
Speaker 1: No.

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01:06:45,360 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 6: Next day, come to the studio. I'm in the studio.

1156
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:51,080
Speaker 6: He don't show up. I start working back on my ship.

1157
01:06:54,040 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 6: Phone ring engineer like hello, yeah, he's right here. I'm

1158
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:04,000
Speaker 6: like hello, Yeah, you have some guests out front, I said,

1159
01:07:04,040 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 6: I do. Yeah, told me who it was. I said, okay,

1160
01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:17,840
Speaker 6: it's his managers, Like, I ain't never met them. They

1161
01:07:17,960 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 6: coming to the studio. Yo, what's up? Man? Say what's up? Yo?

1162
01:07:25,320 --> 01:07:28,640
Speaker 6: And we heard the joints y'all been working on you

1163
01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:35,360
Speaker 6: helping him write those. Uh yeah, Hey, let me tell

1164
01:07:35,400 --> 01:07:44,560
Speaker 6: you something, my nigga. What listen, he's a little off

1165
01:07:44,600 --> 01:07:47,680
Speaker 6: his rocker right now. I don't need you to take

1166
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:53,240
Speaker 6: him serious, I said, Oh okay, I said, listen. We

1167
01:07:53,280 --> 01:07:57,120
Speaker 6: as management team. He got He has a whole team

1168
01:07:57,200 --> 01:08:02,520
Speaker 6: of people behind him, artists, he got dancers, he got

1169
01:08:02,560 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 6: a band, he got background singers, we got engineers. If

1170
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:11,360
Speaker 6: you help this nigga write one more fucking rap song,

1171
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:19,400
Speaker 6: you done, we gonna come see you. What said, Bro,

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01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:23,040
Speaker 6: I ain't trying to fuck up. No, no, you about

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01:08:23,040 --> 01:08:26,280
Speaker 6: to fuck were about to go on tour. Bro with

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01:08:26,600 --> 01:08:29,800
Speaker 6: can't say her name either, were about he can't ever

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01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:34,920
Speaker 6: be heard saying the word bitchy because they think I

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01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:42,599
Speaker 6: wrote every word. If you see him in the street,

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01:08:43,720 --> 01:08:49,599
Speaker 6: she's walking, don't don't help him. You're about to help

1178
01:08:49,680 --> 01:08:53,519
Speaker 6: him end his fucking career. Nigga. Do you like the song?

1179
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:56,000
Speaker 6: I said, Bro, I love his song. Well let's stay

1180
01:08:56,040 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 6: that way. Damn. I thought you v a. I thought

1181
01:08:58,840 --> 01:09:02,960
Speaker 6: you was folks, I said, I am. I love this ship. Bro, Bro, Bro,

1182
01:09:03,080 --> 01:09:04,880
Speaker 6: we some dudes from we trying to come up. He

1183
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:11,519
Speaker 6: don't help him, bro, I said, all right, man, fuck

1184
01:09:13,880 --> 01:09:18,879
Speaker 6: and that was it. He called me. I stopped answering.

1185
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 6: I couldn't do it. I was like, I ghosted the ghostwriter,

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:32,040
Speaker 6: ghosted artists. And when he walked in that room and

1187
01:09:32,080 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 6: said niggas and bitches, I was like, in my mind,

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01:09:35,760 --> 01:09:38,200
Speaker 6: I'm going this ain't gonna never work. But he was

1189
01:09:38,240 --> 01:09:40,720
Speaker 6: so passionate about it. But I was in my mom

1190
01:09:40,840 --> 01:09:42,960
Speaker 6: I'm sitting there going, bro, I'm on a fucking indie.

1191
01:09:43,280 --> 01:09:45,759
Speaker 6: I would love to be where you at, just writing,

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01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:50,320
Speaker 6: and you want to come down here and rap about

1193
01:09:51,000 --> 01:09:57,160
Speaker 6: niggas and bitches. That's the music visits and shop and yeah,

1194
01:09:58,000 --> 01:09:59,880
Speaker 6: I ain't saying no names. I ain't saying no names.

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01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:04,320
Speaker 6: Hey man, I ain't say your name. It wasn't it

1196
01:10:04,439 --> 01:10:11,400
Speaker 6: wasn't it wasn't you. You have written a lot of

1197
01:10:11,479 --> 01:10:16,000
Speaker 6: songs that women love, written and performed. You know deep

1198
01:10:16,000 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 6: in your heart you can't never get on those stage.

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01:10:19,600 --> 01:10:21,720
Speaker 6: I don't even you feel that way. He can't never

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01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 6: get on the stage and say that. And that's this

1201
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:26,800
Speaker 6: artist was right there.

1202
01:10:26,840 --> 01:10:28,519
Speaker 1: I get it. I get it.

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01:10:30,000 --> 01:10:31,400
Speaker 6: I don't even know what made him want to say it,

1204
01:10:31,439 --> 01:10:35,000
Speaker 6: But hey man, you know the niggas and the bitch

1205
01:10:35,040 --> 01:10:36,480
Speaker 6: has never heard it sometimes.

1206
01:10:36,120 --> 01:10:39,960
Speaker 1: You be enamored, flabbergasted.

1207
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:42,320
Speaker 4: I got this bit that I do in my comedy

1208
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:45,040
Speaker 4: set where I'm like, I'm like, tonight, I get to

1209
01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:45,839
Speaker 4: call you bitches.

1210
01:10:48,960 --> 01:10:50,759
Speaker 6: She liked that.

1211
01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:55,960
Speaker 1: I get to be a rapper only in the comedy bitch.

1212
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:06,479
Speaker 6: Like that that nigga said it different. Where's my bitch?

1213
01:11:07,720 --> 01:11:10,880
Speaker 1: It was, that's a that's a rally call. That's a

1214
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:11,360
Speaker 1: rack call.

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01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:20,040
Speaker 4: Brother Man, skills man, listen man. The name speaks for herself.

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01:11:20,120 --> 01:11:20,320
Speaker 1: Man.

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01:11:20,600 --> 01:11:23,800
Speaker 4: And it is a testament to hard work and true

1218
01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:30,360
Speaker 4: dedication man, and and the craft the craft man. It's

1219
01:11:30,400 --> 01:11:36,800
Speaker 4: just being a craftsman is different. What we do serious man,

1220
01:11:37,640 --> 01:11:40,640
Speaker 4: and it takes you serious and and and that is

1221
01:11:40,680 --> 01:11:47,600
Speaker 4: where true longevity lives. It lives and taking this ship serious.

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01:11:49,240 --> 01:11:54,439
Speaker 4: And I pray that everyone watching this that they get

1223
01:11:54,520 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 4: that message. And I pray that all of the people

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01:11:57,479 --> 01:12:03,760
Speaker 4: who are in charge and that are handling these budgets

1225
01:12:03,800 --> 01:12:07,360
Speaker 4: and that are signing these these artists and that are

1226
01:12:07,360 --> 01:12:10,560
Speaker 4: looking for these creatives and these writers and these producers,

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:14,719
Speaker 4: that we uh that we don't turn a blind eye

1228
01:12:14,760 --> 01:12:20,800
Speaker 4: to the truly gifted, the truly talented people, and we

1229
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,519
Speaker 4: get them a shot at that Longevity Man and and

1230
01:12:23,520 --> 01:12:26,960
Speaker 4: and we get more mad Skills to get.

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01:12:27,880 --> 01:12:29,040
Speaker 1: Ladies, Gentle money and Tank.

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01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 4: And this is the R and B Money podcast, the

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01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:33,200
Speaker 4: authority on all.

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01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:43,600
Speaker 5: Things R and B and mad Skills, R and B Money.

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Speaker 2: R and B Money is a production of the Black

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Speaker 2: Effect Podcast Network.

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01:12:56,080 --> 01:12:58,719
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