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Speaker 1: Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The

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Speaker 1: Weekly Zeitgeist.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 1: These are some of our favorite segments from this week,

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Speaker 1: all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Uh yeah, So,

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Speaker 1: without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Miles. We're

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Speaker 1: thrilled to be joining in our third seats by one

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Speaker 1: of our favorite guests, a brilliant comedian, writer, journalist, activists

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Speaker 1: you know from plays leg Al Jazeera at MSNBC Young

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Speaker 1: Turks from the podcast Habituation Room.

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Speaker 3: It's Francesca Fiorentina.

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Speaker 1: I am nothing.

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Speaker 3: I don't want to sing.

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Speaker 4: Shit, I don't want to do a joke on my name.

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Speaker 4: Everything's terrible, all right, I'm gonna roll up. I'm just like,

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Speaker 4: I'm like when when when are the Pitch Street battles?

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Speaker 4: Let's go Yeah, but no, I'm high may. I'm excited

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Speaker 4: to have you use my like three week old cough to,

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Speaker 4: uh to just scream about Democrats for the next hour.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, what do you what do you think

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Speaker 3: you're gonna? Are you gonna pivot, You're gonna try and

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Speaker 3: get the Dems? Joe Rogan, dem dollars? Are you gonna

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Speaker 3: keep doing your thing, or fully pivot to the right

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Speaker 3: because everything's on the table, I think right now for everyone.

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Speaker 3: You know what, wouldn't it.

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Speaker 4: Be so funny if I pivoted to the right but

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Speaker 4: like no one cared. That would be so great if

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Speaker 4: I staked at all and was like, you know what,

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Speaker 4: I'm leaving the left. I left the left and everyone's

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Speaker 4: like okay, bye, like and like who are you? Like

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Speaker 4: sometimes I on Piers Morgan, but then I realized it

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Speaker 4: is woke and that what like that would just like

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Speaker 4: that's why I wouldn't pivot to the right, because like

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Speaker 4: what if it wasn't you know, big enough to actually

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Speaker 4: get me any sponsorships?

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Speaker 3: People were like cool, yeah, cool, Well now anyway, so here,

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Speaker 3: we're gonna burn this cross in front of that house.

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Speaker 3: You got a truck? Uh no, never mind.

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Speaker 1: I do feel like it's probably gonna be pretty full.

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Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, I'm gonna pivot to you know this. I'm

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Speaker 4: just like, honestly, maybe podcasting is not the way we

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Speaker 4: do the revolution, but no, so long as people still listen,

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Speaker 4: I'm going to try and have you know, more activists

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Speaker 4: and strategic thinkers on and and you know, actually just

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Speaker 4: kind of get involved like locally too, Like if I

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Speaker 4: if we can't change California, what the fuck? We're not

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Speaker 4: a blue state worth at salt, you know, like what's

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Speaker 4: look of Minnesota. Tim Walls may have lost, but like

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Speaker 4: the people of Minnesota.

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Speaker 5: Won, like they still get him.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so but we got our own fucking freak job man,

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Speaker 3: Gavin Newsome. And that's that's what we.

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Speaker 1: Is.

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Speaker 3: We need a thing as bad as their thing.

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Speaker 4: More homeless encampments.

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Speaker 3: Like, oh god, he did it himself. People are like,

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Speaker 3: that's the kind of energy we need. I'm like, you

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Speaker 3: are so unserious.

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Speaker 4: Please He's like next door Anderson Cooper, you know, just

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Speaker 4: like going out there and rolling up his sleeves.

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Speaker 3: He's like, can I get a wheelbarrow? It's like no, No,

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Speaker 3: this is someone's yard. I don't care.

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Speaker 1: I'm throwing this stuff away. Fuck fuck up? Yeah, how

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Speaker 1: do we punch down better? Teach us that punches the right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we want to do a sick lower cut, not

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Speaker 3: a topper cut undercut.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a magic punch. You've never what is.

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Speaker 1: Something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?

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Speaker 5: This is going to double us a little promo, but

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Speaker 5: my weirdest one I could find is Ectoplasm poppet. And

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Speaker 5: I know I always bring this kind of content to

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Speaker 5: you guys. Yeah, And the reason I was searching that

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Speaker 5: is because Sarah Marshall from You're Wrong About and I

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Speaker 5: and then my partner and our producer and You're Wrong

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Speaker 5: About producer Miranda's Fleetwood Mac cover band, which is fun

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Speaker 5: that you guys were just talking about it. We're doing

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Speaker 5: a live show on the West Coast in December and January,

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Speaker 5: and it's all around spiritualism and seances and so we're

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Speaker 5: kind of designing this whole show, and so one of

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Speaker 5: the things we're doing is creating Ectoplasm puppets. And what

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Speaker 5: these were is during seances and like the Turn of

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Speaker 5: the century, you guys all know those like the tricks

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Speaker 5: you lift the tables, things play on their own, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: you know that. I feel like that was like the

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Speaker 5: trickle down the slumber part of the Yeah, but yeah, same,

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Speaker 5: same kind.

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Speaker 1: Of I'm mostly familiar with slumber party culture, so I know.

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Speaker 5: You're always in the slumber.

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Speaker 6: Party every time and stuff.

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Speaker 5: Next guest, But yeah, Ectoplasm was this this trick that

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Speaker 5: mediums would do when they'd go into trance, and they

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Speaker 5: would like regurgitate cheese cloth and it would like look

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Speaker 5: like some sort of spirit was exiting their body. And

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Speaker 5: sometimes they would make puppets so it would like look

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Speaker 5: like they'd do this illusion where this really wild looking

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Speaker 5: But listen, guys, any orifice.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 5: Sunces were a lot weirder and more sexual than we

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Speaker 5: talk about or think about, because why would we really

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Speaker 5: even think about sances from the turn of the century.

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Speaker 5: But yeah, they would, like there were all of these

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Speaker 5: tricks that they would do. Houdini was super involved in

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Speaker 5: bringing down this woman who had all this these ecdoplasm

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Speaker 5: tricks that she did, and a lot of times they'd

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Speaker 5: paste from like a newspaper or magazine just a face

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Speaker 5: on the puppet and be like, look, it's Abraham Lincoln.

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Speaker 5: So yeah, we're kind of building a puppet of our

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Speaker 5: own for the show. So it's definitely like.

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Speaker 3: And you're and you'll be able to like exercise this

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Speaker 3: spirit from out of your corpse and maybe.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, wow, maybe maybe not.

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Speaker 3: You'll have to see i mean talent on the stage.

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Speaker 3: I'm like Okay, that's a Camus show. But now we're

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Speaker 3: talking about spiritual puppet and I'm not going.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's scared.

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Speaker 5: We got all kinds of tricks. We got burlesque in

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Speaker 5: the show. It's going to be like it's a it's

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Speaker 5: kind of a theater. It's gonna be fun.

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Speaker 3: There's sexual liberation.

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Speaker 1: The show is cheese cloth, the very light cloth that

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Speaker 1: kind of looks like it like flows in the Is

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Speaker 1: that kind of what the.

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Speaker 5: Idea was matched you know, it's like really thin and

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Speaker 5: you use it. I don't even really know, but yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's just this. It was like a very common material.

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Speaker 1: Was always use it in the making of cheese.

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Speaker 3: But I just well, I don't realize you could around

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Speaker 5: There are no rules when it comes to cheese cloth.

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Speaker 3: What is something you think is underrated?

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Speaker 1: Myself?

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Speaker 4: Underrated?

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Speaker 7: Is uh being in a good mood right now? Everyone

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Speaker 7: seems to be so gloom and doom, doom scrolling, all

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Speaker 7: sad in their feelings, and I just I have keep

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Speaker 7: having to remind people. I'm going to remind listeners because

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Speaker 7: I know some or you are doing it as well,

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Speaker 7: but like he's not president yet. I keep telling people

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Speaker 7: think of it as New Year's Day, like it's New

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Speaker 7: Year's Eve right now, you fucking get your groove on

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Speaker 7: right now and celebrate right now.

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Speaker 6: Be happy right now.

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Speaker 7: Well, you know, things are a little more chill, and

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Speaker 7: you know, donate money if you can to whatever wherever.

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Speaker 7: Even fucking a person, a homeless person, gim an extra

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Speaker 7: five spot, you know, do do something. But this gloom

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Speaker 7: and doom shit.

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Speaker 5: Is not helping anybody.

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Speaker 6: It's not funny.

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Speaker 7: I mean, I also understand not wanting to walk around smiling,

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Speaker 7: especially if you're a white person, because then people are

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Speaker 7: just gonna want to punch you. But also and people

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Speaker 7: are gonna want to punch you no matter what.

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Speaker 3: So yeah, right now everybody's looking at white min as well.

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Speaker 3: Get a high five while you're doing it. Hey, but

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Speaker 3: the top, or you can buy our blue bracelets that

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Speaker 3: you go rock with. Let people know you're one of

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Speaker 3: the safe ones.

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Speaker 1: Is that a real thing that's happening.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a.

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Speaker 3: White woman thing. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to get lumped in with the.

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Speaker 3: It's weird. It's all girl.

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Speaker 7: We can tell if we go on your Instagram, we

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Speaker 7: can tell who you are. I I used to have

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Speaker 7: a bit I mean, I should still do it, but

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Speaker 7: it's like, you know, nobody knows who's actually racist, who's

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Speaker 7: actually not racist, Like you only you know, like only

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Speaker 7: you know what your goes through your mind when you're

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Speaker 7: on an elevator with a black guy white lady. Okay,

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Speaker 7: so like that's who you really are and like just

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Speaker 7: accept that. But like the whole blue bracelet shits like

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Speaker 7: lady get I also feel like your listeners wouldn't do that.

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, an advertiser Marcella. So, yeah, white lady

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Speaker 1: is important movement.

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Speaker 3: We got to meet them where they're at.

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Speaker 1: I can. I can just see people like doing the

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Speaker 1: opposite of like the purse clutch and actually like rolling

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Speaker 1: up their sleeve to be like see not like just

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Speaker 1: you know, itching the side of their face with their bay.

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Speaker 3: I'm with the status quo. I just want to let

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Speaker 3: you know we're going to be all right. We're gonna

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Speaker 3: be all right. Oh my god.

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Speaker 7: There was a white was I was judging a roast

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Speaker 7: battle and this white boy was wearing like, uh it

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Speaker 7: was like in the sound of Lakers, like it said,

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Speaker 7: they're not there?

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Speaker 1: What is it?

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Speaker 7: What is the Kendrick song? Amlready, I'm fucking blinking. They're

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Speaker 7: not like us, They're not like us.

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Speaker 3: He has it.

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Speaker 7: It says they not like us, but it's like Lakers,

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Speaker 7: you know, they're not like us, right like us. But

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Speaker 7: it didn't. It didn't say Lakers. It says they they're

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Speaker 7: not like us. And I was like, oh, judging him,

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Speaker 7: and I was like so distracted. I was like, you're white,

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Speaker 7: they are not like you take that shirt off. And

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Speaker 7: it always cracked me up anyway.

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Speaker 3: I mean, look, it always it's it's it's inevitable. Everything

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Speaker 3: does get hijacked by white culture eventually. Like there was

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Speaker 3: a clip of like those people. I don't know what

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Speaker 3: it was. It's some kind of business convention where all

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Speaker 3: those white people are on stage, like celebrating their company,

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Speaker 3: and they're like, they're not like us, They're not like

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Speaker 3: oh everybody.

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Speaker 7: And you're like, oh, he's speaking of the super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: Is gonna be fire? Yeah because of Kendrick, Like that

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Speaker 7: performance is gonna be interesting no matter what. Now what's

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Speaker 7: going on, He's definitely he.

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Speaker 1: Won't let it not be interesting, is what you need,

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Speaker 1: because there's gonna be a lot of pressure to make

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Speaker 1: it not interesting.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, he's gonna be pushing. He's gonna be pushing for sure.

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Speaker 7: That's that's what's cool about him. So now now everyone

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Speaker 7: should be happy that he is a super Bowl performer.

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Speaker 3: Cut to him, cut to him doing something really fucking

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Speaker 3: just ship. He's like, we need unity, y'all, we need

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Speaker 3: Some of your things overrated?

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Speaker 6: The Democrat ads woke quote unquote woke agenda.

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Speaker 2: That's like, if the Democrats use a single pronoun, if

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Speaker 3: Deal with it, however you got out of us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, deal, motherfuckers. I'm still feeling spooky. Okay, it's a

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, that there'd be like Eyemilking stations for you

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, I think people are more angry than

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Speaker 4: I'll have you know that I was not invited to

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Speaker 3: Apparently there wasn't enough room. She said it was a

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Speaker 3: I'll be at best Buy.

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Speaker 3: two of them. Mom, I don't even care. That's what

440
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Speaker 3: I'm gonna do. I'm gonna buy iPad. Fuck you. Uh yeah,

441
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Speaker 3: I mean I think it's again, so many conservatives just

442
00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 3: clearly thought that there their consequences of electing Trump were

443
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Speaker 3: merely that just saying Trump won and not again the

444
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Speaker 3: raft of policies that this brings. And it's just a

445
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Speaker 3: very I don't know. I mean, like I guess, like

446
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Speaker 3: you know, a part of me has always wondered, like

447
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Speaker 3: what is it gonna take for most American people to understand,

448
00:22:37,920 --> 00:22:40,600
Speaker 3: like shit is bad and it needs to change, and

449
00:22:40,680 --> 00:22:44,400
Speaker 3: like whatever insulation you think is protecting you is very tenuous.

450
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Speaker 3: It is not. It is not gonna hold forever. And

451
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Speaker 3: part of me is like I think, just like anything,

452
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Speaker 3: especially American people, it's like we don't know until we've

453
00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 3: fully just fucking burned ourselves on the fucking fire that

454
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Speaker 3: were like, yeah, oh fire's bad. Ah, everybody said fire's bad.

455
00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,359
Speaker 3: I'm like, I don't know. Man, my dad he was

456
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:07,760
Speaker 3: he's a fire guy, so I thought I could touch it,

457
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 3: and now I'm burned that maybe that like I don't know,

458
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:13,679
Speaker 3: like and it's also it's just also fucked up to

459
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Speaker 3: think them like, well, I guess maybe if enough of

460
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Speaker 3: us suffer that we can move past it. But I

461
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Speaker 3: think that's what also makes me a little bit weary

462
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Speaker 3: when you see people gloating over the fact that people

463
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Speaker 3: are about to suffer for the ill informed decisions or

464
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Speaker 3: fully informed decisions they've made, because that is just fully

465
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Speaker 3: like when all bets are off like that, that's truly

466
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Speaker 3: when the system won't change at all, and people are

467
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Speaker 3: going to just fully go to their corners and be like, well,

468
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Speaker 3: if I have to kind of change my beliefs in

469
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Speaker 3: this way to protect myself from that, as long as

470
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Speaker 3: I'm not those fuckers getting completely beated down, then I'm fine.

471
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Speaker 3: It's yeah, it's a very i don't know, yeah, very

472
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Speaker 3: delicate balance that we have right now. And I totally

473
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Speaker 3: get why people are fucking so angry because so many

474
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Speaker 3: people have been talking. But again, I think this also

475
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Speaker 3: speaks to the kinds of like who watches the news

476
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Speaker 3: who doesn't, And just because it's being said over and

477
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Speaker 3: over on MSNBC or maybe sixty percent of the time

478
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Speaker 3: on CNN or something like that, that doesn't mean everyone

479
00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: is hearing that message either, and just but I get

480
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Speaker 3: the anger that because this is going to bring so

481
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Speaker 3: much suffering to many people that you want to be

482
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Speaker 3: able to sort of singularly be like, yeah, well, fuck you,

483
00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,200
Speaker 3: and it's going to be all you, or it's all

484
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Speaker 3: going to be the people who decided to vote in

485
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Speaker 3: solidarity with Palestinian people, or it's all the fault of

486
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Speaker 3: people who just felt that trans rights were actual human

487
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Speaker 3: rights and those kinds of things. It's completely ignores like

488
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Speaker 3: the real the damage that has already been done that

489
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Speaker 3: we're not continuing to acknowledge. So I don't know, it's

490
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Speaker 3: just precarious at the moment, and I hope, I hope

491
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Speaker 3: that we're able to sort of yeah, fully understand that

492
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Speaker 3: like the options' aren't going to be let's point and laugh,

493
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Speaker 3: but we actually are going to have to like resist

494
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Speaker 3: in a way and not the twenty sixteen way of resisting.

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Speaker 1: Like count the mainstream media to do. Yeah, like such

496
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Speaker 1: a big part of it because they are badly weakened

497
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Speaker 1: and also seemed to be very easy to knock off

498
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Speaker 1: the message and just be like wait what, oh, I

499
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Speaker 1: guess he's right. Yeah, Like I mean one of the

500
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Speaker 1: historical presidents that what like was going through my head

501
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Speaker 1: is like should this give me hope? Is that Richard

502
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Speaker 1: Nixon had just run for president for the third time

503
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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy two, his last election, he won five

504
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Speaker 1: hundred and twenty electoral votes out of five hundred and

505
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Speaker 1: thirty eight. He won five hundred and twenty electoral votes,

506
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Speaker 1: sixty percent of the popular vote, and like just an

507
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Speaker 1: all time like destruction. He was running on like a

508
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Speaker 1: racist message, like back then he called it the Silent Majority,

509
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Speaker 1: but it was just very racist messaging. But people like

510
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Speaker 1: also he was very like kind of personally. People were

511
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Speaker 1: suspicious of him. He resigned in disgrace about like two

512
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Speaker 1: years after being sworn at like less than two years,

513
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Speaker 1: about a year and a half. I think things are

514
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: much different now because we don't have a strong media

515
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,040
Speaker 1: and we don't have a media that anyone's going to

516
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Speaker 1: listen to. I've also been thinking about two thousand and

517
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Speaker 1: four and just how demoralizing it was to have George W.

518
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: Bush reelected after like the Iraq War was happening. We

519
00:26:26,359 --> 00:26:29,560
Speaker 1: knew there were no w we knew that it was

520
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Speaker 1: a disaster, and he had lied to get in, and

521
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Speaker 1: like the fact that he's still won like fairly decisively

522
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Speaker 1: was incredibly demoralizing.

523
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Speaker 3: I just it.

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Speaker 1: I think if this loss can be clarifying to people

525
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Speaker 1: who aren't Republicans. I think that's the only thing that's

526
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:54,840
Speaker 1: actually because those historical precedents I think we're are just

527
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 1: two different. Things are too kind of fucked right now,

528
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Speaker 1: the information economy, like how people are getting their information,

529
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:07,840
Speaker 1: who like the weakness of the mainstream media. But like

530
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,520
Speaker 1: just the Democratic Party completely cratered in this election, and

531
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,240
Speaker 1: like maybe it needed to, and like it feels like

532
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:23,200
Speaker 1: there are clear and learnable lessons for whoever is going

533
00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:26,359
Speaker 1: to come next, whether it be the Democratic leadership or not.

534
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Speaker 1: But I and like one of the lessons is, like

535
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Speaker 1: you need to target, not like Trump can't just be

536
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:38,639
Speaker 1: the target. In fact, like it might be helpful to

537
00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 1: not make Trump the main target and instead focus on

538
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Speaker 1: the mainstream Democratic Party, the billionaires who fund it, the

539
00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 1: mainstream media, because like those are all, truthfully the structural

540
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: things that are standing in the way of getting like

541
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Speaker 1: making any progress.

542
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Speaker 5: Right, things that have kind of started to swing right anyway.

543
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, you know, So I don't know, it's just

544
00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 1: it's really bad right now. I've heard people say it's

545
00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,280
Speaker 1: been bad before. I don't think it's ever been this bad.

546
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,359
Speaker 1: But you know, when things are bad, like things can

547
00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,879
Speaker 1: swing in a hurry. And I think this party, like

548
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:26,720
Speaker 1: this Trump presidency is going to be an absolute shit show,

549
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:32,159
Speaker 1: you know of like billionaires like just grabbing everything that

550
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: they possibly can, and we just need people who are

551
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:41,280
Speaker 1: willing to stay focused and what work locally. But also

552
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: I don't think it's like and we give up now

553
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:49,560
Speaker 1: because Trump won this one election kind of convincingly. I

554
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 1: think there are just like very a handful of very

555
00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 1: clear messages that you could run on, and like the

556
00:28:57,000 --> 00:29:01,840
Speaker 1: Democratic Party completely fucking up in the last election might

557
00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:05,720
Speaker 1: actually have like lit the way for like a future

558
00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 1: of like what not to do if anybody's willing to

559
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:10,280
Speaker 1: learn that lesson.

560
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 5: But I feel like looking at the historical precedence is

561
00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 5: really comforting, even though it's you can't really draw a

562
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 5: conclusion decisively, But like that's I think on American hysteria,

563
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 5: that's kind of what we do as we go into

564
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:26,560
Speaker 5: past and we say, okay, how is the past, how

565
00:29:26,720 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 5: these through lines continued on? How do we then take

566
00:29:30,040 --> 00:29:32,280
Speaker 5: these through lines and try to understand how they affect

567
00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,000
Speaker 5: the present moment? And I mean what comes to mind

568
00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,240
Speaker 5: too with like Nixon and Bush is that so much

569
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Speaker 5: of their platform was like against protesting and against Vietnam protesters,

570
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Speaker 5: student protesters, and Bush against Iraq war protesters and just

571
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Speaker 5: using that. And now of course we're seeing that obviously

572
00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 5: with pro Palestine protests, and I think that that's like

573
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Speaker 5: just that just came to mind as like a very

574
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Speaker 5: clear thing that was happening in each of those and

575
00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:03,600
Speaker 5: it's just that's demoralizing, right.

576
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Speaker 1: But again, that was the Democrats this past time that

577
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Speaker 1: was running like the most clear like quote, the quote

578
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Speaker 1: that they were fucking putting on T shirts is I'm

579
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Speaker 1: talking now or like whatever she said when somebody tried

580
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Speaker 1: to interrupt her speech, Like that was what they were

581
00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: fucking rallying around. I mean, the Cheney like focusing on

582
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:28,600
Speaker 1: having like a Cheney endorsement was not like an accident.

583
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Speaker 1: It wasn't like they it was part of their overall thing,

584
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Speaker 1: which was, you know that they were going to be

585
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Speaker 1: what neo conservatives were. They were like, yeah, we're going

586
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Speaker 1: to be the old your grand you know, Trump swept

587
00:30:43,880 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 1: to power on this, not your grandpa's Republican Party. We're

588
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 1: going to be your grandpa's Republican Party. And it just

589
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 1: again like seems like very learnable, huge swings and misses

590
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Speaker 1: that in like retrospect of a week a week and

591
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: a half are like what the fuck? We we could think yeah, yeah, well.

592
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 5: And Democrats did the same thing. Was the you know

593
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 5: with Afghanistan, Iraq and Vietnam. It's like there it's a

594
00:31:12,880 --> 00:31:16,840
Speaker 5: by war as a bipartisan issue, I think, And so

595
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:19,640
Speaker 5: it's kind of like just not right.

596
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Speaker 3: Because yeah, the people who are objecting to the Iraq

597
00:31:22,200 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 3: war fair few and far between you and those a

598
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: few people who have been like I actually knew that

599
00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 3: back then this was some bullshit. But again, the yeah,

600
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 3: it's when you're you're going against machines that have been

601
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 3: fully in like just running at full tilt for decades now,

602
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,520
Speaker 3: and to just like one person is just going to

603
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,720
Speaker 3: get crushed by it, unless you know, we have a

604
00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 3: more of a plurality of people that first of all,

605
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Speaker 3: can articulate. I think that's the biggest thing is being

606
00:31:50,600 --> 00:31:54,479
Speaker 3: able to articulate what the danger is, what the evil is,

607
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:57,600
Speaker 3: because right now you have a lot of these establishment

608
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: liberals offering all kinds of differ for explanations that are

609
00:32:01,800 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 3: avoiding a clearly articulating what where the rot is coming from?

610
00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,800
Speaker 3: And it's a lot of stuff, Like, I mean, do

611
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 3: we acknowledge that sex is a biological truth, but we

612
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 3: also respect how other people want to like no, no, no,

613
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 3: like get off that shit. It doesn't like we don't

614
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 3: need to be so bothered by these kinds of things,

615
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:25,320
Speaker 3: or not that I'm bothered, but like the idea to

616
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 3: think that other people are gonna be so bothered, because

617
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 3: guess what if your bills are paid and if your

618
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,719
Speaker 3: grandma doesn't have to toil till she's nobody to give

619
00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:34,400
Speaker 3: fucking years old, they're not gonna give a fuck If

620
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:37,880
Speaker 3: other people have their rights, like or getting gender affirming care,

621
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,880
Speaker 3: that won't matter to one person. But when you are,

622
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: when you are lacking so much, you start looking at

623
00:32:44,400 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 3: what other people Why are they talking about these people?

624
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: What are we talking about? My grandma has to work

625
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 3: till she's eighty, Like how often are we seeing elderly

626
00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 3: people working so much? And you're this happens all the time.

627
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:57,200
Speaker 3: You see this everywhere you go into stringle. Oh my god,

628
00:32:56,920 --> 00:32:59,400
Speaker 3: I cannot like I can't believe this person is working.

629
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:02,880
Speaker 3: Can't believe that this person has to work, And we

630
00:33:02,920 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 3: don't we're not taking care of our people. These kinds

631
00:33:05,880 --> 00:33:08,040
Speaker 3: of these are the things that people see and reinforce

632
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 3: these ideas that there's something has to change. But if

633
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 3: you're coming in and because in this vacuum, because clearly

634
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 3: the parties on its knees, you have these people trying

635
00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:20,440
Speaker 3: to either prop up the same neoliberal nonsense that doesn't

636
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: get to the heart of the matter, or trying to

637
00:33:22,480 --> 00:33:24,840
Speaker 3: dismiss people who are actually clearly trying to articulate it

638
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 3: because that's truly going to upset the balance of power.

639
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,960
Speaker 3: And in terms of what is the quote left or

640
00:33:29,960 --> 00:33:32,600
Speaker 3: whatever you want to describe this, And that's kind of

641
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 3: the stage we're at because you see, you have like

642
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,080
Speaker 3: the Matthew Iglesiases of the world who are like these

643
00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:40,240
Speaker 3: reporters who are all in on this centrist shit, and

644
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,440
Speaker 3: they're like, I have a new I've behold my new

645
00:33:43,480 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 3: manifesto that's like that's like so broad, but still filled

646
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,600
Speaker 3: with these things like still kind of like you know,

647
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,920
Speaker 3: bowing to the things that irk conservatives. And they're trying

648
00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,520
Speaker 3: to thread the needle without like properly getting like to

649
00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:01,160
Speaker 3: the heart of the matter, because so much of the

650
00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 3: stuff is about like we need to have like a

651
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 3: better social safety net, but not one of these points

652
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:08,680
Speaker 3: says that we need to tax the fuck out of

653
00:34:08,719 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 3: the wealthy, right, like exactly, that's fine, that's fine as

654
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:15,680
Speaker 3: an idea, But if we're not, if we don't actually

655
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Speaker 3: buy in on how we get there, then that shit

656
00:34:18,080 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 3: is just words.

657
00:34:19,440 --> 00:34:22,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, it needs to be. You need to have a villain.

658
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: You need to That's what I'm saying. Like the thing

659
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 1: that trust like the first villain that Trump like killed,

660
00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: and I think it's the base that his entire movement

661
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:36,719
Speaker 1: is built on was the mainstream Republican Party as it

662
00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:40,120
Speaker 1: existed in twenty sixteen. He talked shit about Cheney, he

663
00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:44,879
Speaker 1: talked about Bush, he did he went against the mainstream

664
00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: Republican orthodoxy, and then from there was able to build

665
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 1: his movement. Like the Democrats' brand right now is to

666
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:00,640
Speaker 1: change what they say based on what they think is

667
00:35:00,680 --> 00:35:04,040
Speaker 1: going to be popular, Like that is what their brand is.

668
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:09,960
Speaker 1: Somebody needs to come forward and say that and fucking attack, attack,

669
00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 1: and be the person who is opposing Trump, who is

670
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 1: built on, like, you know, tearing the Democratic Party as

671
00:35:17,760 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: it exists to the ground, Like they change their position

672
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,839
Speaker 1: on whether racism is bad, they change their position on

673
00:35:24,880 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: whether immigration is bad, like based on what they think

674
00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: people are going to think about that, and that sends

675
00:35:32,480 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: the exact opposite message from what people are responding to

676
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: with Trump, which is like with Trump, the thing, like

677
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,480
Speaker 1: the free media that everybody talks about is the mainstream

678
00:35:44,520 --> 00:35:47,880
Speaker 1: media saying how could he say that? Saying that is

679
00:35:47,920 --> 00:35:50,719
Speaker 1: against the rules, but by god, he's saying it anyways,

680
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,960
Speaker 1: and that makes him look like principled and like he

681
00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: believes in something. The thing he believes in is fucking horrifying,

682
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 1: But it does end a message of like authenticity at

683
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: a time when like politics prior to this was defined

684
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,359
Speaker 1: by just like bullshit and obfuscation and like playing this

685
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:12,080
Speaker 1: game that everybody knew was a game, but they were

686
00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: playing it like they like we didn't know it was

687
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:20,080
Speaker 1: a game, so like it just there can't be like

688
00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,319
Speaker 1: we we It's not just like we need somebody who

689
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: focuses on economic populism. We also need somebody who focuses

690
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:30,400
Speaker 1: on how broken the Democratic Party has been up to

691
00:36:30,440 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 1: this point and is willing to like say that out loud.

692
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: The Democrats are still suffering from the fact that, like

693
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 1: the last time they had a successful candidate who actually

694
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 1: like touched on economic populism. That candidate then went and

695
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: like bailed out the Wall Street banks in like during

696
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:47,760
Speaker 1: the financial crisis.

697
00:36:47,840 --> 00:36:49,759
Speaker 3: That's like a people remember that shit too.

698
00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: People remember that and like you can't just come out

699
00:36:55,040 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 1: and be like, well this this policy here, it reflects

700
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,520
Speaker 1: like we could you know, and like come forward with more.

701
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,200
Speaker 1: It's complicated policies. You need a central message that is

702
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,560
Speaker 1: fuck what those people were talking about. Yes, like fuck

703
00:37:10,760 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: what Obama is talking about, because what he did was

704
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,279
Speaker 1: said hope and change and then poisoned the words hope

705
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: and change by bailing out Wall Street and like doing

706
00:37:21,640 --> 00:37:24,359
Speaker 1: the same shit that Clinton was doing. Like you need

707
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Speaker 1: somebody who's willing to fucking stand on that.

708
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, because right now everyone who's been like you know,

709
00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:33,279
Speaker 3: holding the banner up for the Democratic Party, they are

710
00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 3: not gonna they're not gonna let go no, So they're

711
00:37:36,040 --> 00:37:38,319
Speaker 3: they're gonna do whatever they can to say the right

712
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,080
Speaker 3: mix of words to make it seem like they're like, well, look,

713
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Speaker 3: I'm Chris, I'm Senator Chris Murphy, right, you know, like

714
00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 3: I and I do get what's happening, and I'm gonna

715
00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,319
Speaker 3: say I get what's happening. But it's like, no, motherfucker,

716
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,280
Speaker 3: you are a fucking ghoul. You are also a creature

717
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:56,479
Speaker 3: of this political machinery that operates in DC, and you've

718
00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,160
Speaker 3: done it faithfully, and there's no way that we can

719
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:04,440
Speaker 3: trust you because you've already compromised that, like any values

720
00:38:04,440 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 3: you've had, Because the thing is, any if you have,

721
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,480
Speaker 3: if your values are negotiable, you have no values, right,

722
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,000
Speaker 3: That's plain and simple. If they're negotiable, you have none.

723
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: You have none then. Because anyway, so I think I'm

724
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm looking forward to whatever this fight is going to

725
00:38:21,880 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: be within the Democratic Party because it will be into

726
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:26,799
Speaker 3: because that's also going to say a lot about what

727
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:28,920
Speaker 3: our future, like what our stakes are for the future.

728
00:38:29,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 3: If it's someone coming with that weak ass shit again,

729
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:33,799
Speaker 3: it's like, oh boy, yeah, just something.

730
00:38:33,520 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 1: That I find myself wanting to say. Like Democrats tried

731
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:39,000
Speaker 1: with Bernie, they wouldn't let Bernie win. Yeah that was

732
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,560
Speaker 1: a start, but like it's like we need to do better,

733
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: we need to learn from that and move forward, Like

734
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 1: it can't just be and that's the end.

735
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Speaker 5: Sorry, Chelsea, No, I was just going to say, it's

736
00:38:48,920 --> 00:38:51,360
Speaker 5: like I love all of this and I just don't

737
00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 5: know how anyone breaks through the brick wall of the

738
00:38:54,920 --> 00:38:56,800
Speaker 5: Democratic Party to actually run.

739
00:38:57,760 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.

740
00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 5: And that's how like maybe that's four years of whatever

741
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:03,440
Speaker 5: we're going to try to figure out.

742
00:39:03,440 --> 00:39:05,040
Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's I mean, at this point, it's

743
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 3: like you just have to outright be like, I'm not

744
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 3: gonna fucking buy whatever the fuck you put in front

745
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,080
Speaker 3: of me. I don't give a fuck what it says.

746
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 3: If it's if it's coming from the same fucking place,

747
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 3: I don't get a no no.

748
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: I think it needs to come from outside, like I did,

749
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:22,880
Speaker 1: And I know it seems unlikely at this time, but

750
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:26,799
Speaker 1: so has so did you know the strength of the

751
00:39:26,840 --> 00:39:29,960
Speaker 1: Sanders campaign, so did the strength of the Trump campaign.

752
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,800
Speaker 1: Like people like the system. The people are like begging

753
00:39:33,960 --> 00:39:37,280
Speaker 1: for this message, and it might be that the Democratic

754
00:39:37,280 --> 00:39:41,080
Speaker 1: Party is not gonna be willing to deliver it, but

755
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:43,400
Speaker 1: somebody needs to and I.

756
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 3: Should be someone younger. I mean, like, you know, Bernie

757
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:49,520
Speaker 3: definitely helped crack the door open. But at the same time,

758
00:39:49,719 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 3: he also did the thing that people doing Capitol Hill,

759
00:39:52,680 --> 00:39:54,799
Speaker 3: which is like let me duck low real quick, like

760
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:56,680
Speaker 3: was Biden doing. Okay, I'm not gonna really speak up

761
00:39:56,719 --> 00:39:58,960
Speaker 3: too much. Okay, oh y'all took an l I got

762
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:01,719
Speaker 3: something to say. No, Like that is just how shit

763
00:40:01,840 --> 00:40:05,239
Speaker 3: moves in DC. And but at the same time, I

764
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 3: think that the other, the other disconnect really comes generationally

765
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,959
Speaker 3: where it's like people need to really understand what people

766
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: have been through and seen and what what their prospects

767
00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:19,160
Speaker 3: look like on the horizon, rather than octogenarians who are like,

768
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,719
Speaker 3: I don't know, fuck, I'm probably gonna die in five

769
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 3: years anyway, so whatever that that doesn't help.

770
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, my part of the thing that is

771
00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: making me like giving me not even a glimmer of hope,

772
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:35,960
Speaker 1: like a shard, like a little like a sparkle, a

773
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: single sparkle of hope, is how weak the Democratic Party

774
00:40:43,320 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: is right now and how definitive and clarifying this loss

775
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: could be two people if like the messaging just starts

776
00:40:53,000 --> 00:40:55,680
Speaker 1: coming consistently, like this is what the people are saying,

777
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 1: this is what the Democratic Party isn't as currently constitute,

778
00:40:59,000 --> 00:41:03,440
Speaker 1: isn't willing to say, and I don't know, hopefully hopefully

779
00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 1: something catches, but yeah, we should make a break and

780
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:09,480
Speaker 1: come back and make fun of wheel of fortune. All right,

781
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:25,759
Speaker 1: and we're back we're and so we actually the episode

782
00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: that we recorded the day of the election, before we

783
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,360
Speaker 1: knew the results. One of the stories that we focused

784
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: on was, you know, the upcoming big news that we

785
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 1: still didn't have access to. And it makes it so

786
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:42,000
Speaker 1: hard to record those episodes. We still didn't know who

787
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,880
Speaker 1: People's Sexiest Man Alive was, And.

788
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,480
Speaker 3: You're sourced up over there.

789
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:50,480
Speaker 6: You're like the Woodward in Bernstein of People magazine.

790
00:41:50,840 --> 00:41:58,280
Speaker 1: And I got fucked by the sources, to be honest,

791
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of them, especially the one who are you

792
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:04,440
Speaker 1: know sheep dipped. CIA agents were telling me it was

793
00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:09,800
Speaker 1: going to be Jim from the Office, and I just.

794
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: Now that guy. Have you seen how Powell? Whatever the

795
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 3: exactly he's sexy, he's alive?

796
00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:19,319
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do, what's wrong?

797
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:19,880
Speaker 3: I do?

798
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,799
Speaker 1: Like the people who have the energy to be outraged

799
00:42:22,840 --> 00:42:27,759
Speaker 1: about this just like another another one where I had

800
00:42:27,800 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: all my hopes, right, It's just like just another rake

801
00:42:33,239 --> 00:42:37,000
Speaker 1: to the face, just going through the media landscape catching

802
00:42:37,080 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: rakes to the face. But yeah, some people. It was

803
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 1: announced on Tuesday that Jim Halpert from the Office is

804
00:42:45,800 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 1: the Sexiest Man Alive. His photo on the cover looks

805
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:51,560
Speaker 1: almost apologetic.

806
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 9: He's like sorry, Yeah, I didn't mean to be all sick.

807
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:02,840
Speaker 6: That's kind of Jim Helper.

808
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 3: Look, yeah, totally is a breaking the fourth wall of

809
00:43:06,160 --> 00:43:07,080
Speaker 3: sexy Jim Look.

810
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:07,799
Speaker 4: Yeah.

811
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, we only bring it up because people really seem

812
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:16,920
Speaker 1: to not like it. Because he's also a character that

813
00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:21,319
Speaker 1: I have like for a while now been hot, like

814
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: been keeping one eye strongly on ever since he just

815
00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: like started being openly pro ci as his like positive

816
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 1: news show came out during like at a time when

817
00:43:36,920 --> 00:43:38,479
Speaker 1: everybody was really pissed off.

818
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Speaker 3: He was like, what if flick, I don't know, it's

819
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:43,319
Speaker 3: kind of fun. Like I sold immediately, like this was

820
00:43:43,320 --> 00:43:43,880
Speaker 3: all just kind of.

821
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Speaker 1: For like one hundred million dollars, and nothing ever came out.

822
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Speaker 6: People continued to die of a rampant pandemic.

823
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and yeah, he just he has he has weird

824
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 1: takes and takes so weird in fact, that he has

825
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:08,880
Speaker 1: become people's sexiest man the mainstream enough. He's like the

826
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Speaker 1: j Leno of sexy guys.

827
00:44:13,600 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's kind of like but he is like a

828
00:44:15,600 --> 00:44:19,200
Speaker 3: perfect encapsulation of like in America, where on the surface

829
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 3: things seem like okay, but like.

830
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Speaker 1: On the service he seems calm and steady yeah, but

831
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Speaker 1: deep Yeah, and he's weak or mom spaghetti, but another's

832
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Speaker 1: mom Spaghetti's.

833
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 2: I think everyone knows what people underneath the mom spaghetti.

834
00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:38,440
Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, his vomit.

835
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Speaker 1: Jim vomit down spaghetti looks like that that's the look

836
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Speaker 1: of the picture.

837
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Speaker 9: He's like, Oh, I don't know, I just had this swetter.

838
00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 9: I guess I just puked on it his mom spaghetti.

839
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Speaker 9: But hey, I'm his American is eating mom spaghetti, you know.

840
00:44:57,480 --> 00:45:00,359
Speaker 9: But like again, but underneath, it's like this guy it's

841
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,799
Speaker 9: like constantly winking at the right wing while also kind

842
00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:05,239
Speaker 9: of pretend like doing any is.

843
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:07,720
Speaker 3: Like, but I'm like not that kind of guy. Also

844
00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:10,920
Speaker 3: like I'm Jim. It's just this very yeah, off putting thing.

845
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 3: But it's it is wild for how much people fucking

846
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 3: hate this announcement because I don't know, I think it's

847
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:20,560
Speaker 3: probably partially like a lightning rod for everyone's election angst. Yes,

848
00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,520
Speaker 3: but it's truly being like, yep, this is the perfect

849
00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 3: guy to fucking get angry about it.

850
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,960
Speaker 8: It's also like there's so many years that People Magazine

851
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,920
Speaker 8: Sexiest is like not someone as Victor pointed out, that

852
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,799
Speaker 8: it's not someone who's like super in the zeitgeist. It's

853
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 8: not someone who you think of necessarily as sexy like Blake.

854
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:46,959
Speaker 2: Shelton one, you know, and people like fully like left

855
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 2: their bodies with rage.

856
00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:52,960
Speaker 8: And it's also like, not it's the sexiest famous guy alive, right,

857
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 8: that's the thing. The sexiest guy alive is some broke

858
00:45:56,160 --> 00:45:58,439
Speaker 8: dude who like lives on his friend's couch and has

859
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,920
Speaker 8: like slept his way through an entire friend group and know.

860
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Speaker 6: One's mad at him.

861
00:46:02,520 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: They're like, oh, nice, you slept with him, too cool. Yeah,

862
00:46:07,120 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: It's also there's an interesting pr thing that happens with

863
00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: this increasingly, uh these past two years, Like this year,

864
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 1: I think everyone was like there's an obvious choice, Like

865
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Speaker 1: there's a guy who is famous for being the sexiest

866
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Speaker 1: guy and he was in like the biggest blockbusters of

867
00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:29,200
Speaker 1: the summer. Glenn Powell was like seemed like, yeah, this

868
00:46:29,800 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: in a world like where this had some like editorial integrity,

869
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Speaker 1: Like I think when it's when it started, it was like, yeah,

870
00:46:40,239 --> 00:46:42,600
Speaker 1: they're like, you know, I guess it's Brad Pitt again,

871
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 1: or you know a guy who's most famous for like

872
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:47,759
Speaker 1: people you know, jacking off to how hot they are,

873
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:51,920
Speaker 1: and that then like I think starting I don't know

874
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,560
Speaker 1: exactly when it started, but I think because it's like

875
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,600
Speaker 1: viewed as like, I don't know that do I want

876
00:46:58,600 --> 00:47:01,800
Speaker 1: to do? I want that it has to be somebody

877
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:06,439
Speaker 1: whose team thinks it's a good branding move for them

878
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:10,640
Speaker 1: to be considered sexy. And so last year with Patrick Dempsey,

879
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,920
Speaker 1: it was like, what if we gave them a reminder

880
00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:15,520
Speaker 1: that this guy was sexy.

881
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:16,560
Speaker 3: Because he's got a movie coming up?

882
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:20,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also like jumped on the Golden Bachelor wave,

883
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:27,040
Speaker 1: And this year with fucking god, I can't John Krasinski

884
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: not Jim fuck the fuck is he whatever? This fucking

885
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:30,760
Speaker 1: guy's name.

886
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,760
Speaker 6: Jim the thinking Man's Mark Wahlberg.

887
00:47:34,000 --> 00:47:39,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like we don't really think of him that way,

888
00:47:39,400 --> 00:47:40,359
Speaker 1: but what if you did?

889
00:47:40,719 --> 00:47:40,960
Speaker 7: You know.

890
00:47:41,719 --> 00:47:46,879
Speaker 8: I think there's also backlash for understandable reasons against kind

891
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,560
Speaker 8: of puffy comedy guys that are like, but what if

892
00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,279
Speaker 8: it was fucking hot like him and Chris Pratt, Like

893
00:47:53,320 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 8: if it were Chris Pratt, I think there would be

894
00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:56,080
Speaker 8: riots in the streets right now.

895
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,279
Speaker 6: It would be like any hockey team won any hockey game.

896
00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:06,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, but I think this is just all this tells

897
00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 1: us is that Chris Pratt turned down the opportunity to

898
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: be people sexiest man. I think that's the only thing

899
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: this says is like, yeah.

900
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:19,000
Speaker 6: He retreated from being sexy for a while where he's like, no,

901
00:48:19,080 --> 00:48:20,920
Speaker 6: I'm Mario and Garfield.

902
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:23,440
Speaker 3: Now right, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't look at me as sexy,

903
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:27,000
Speaker 3: look at me as Garfield sexiest man alive. Guards just

904
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:30,200
Speaker 3: such a weird like the idea of the sexiest man

905
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 3: alive just like evokes like some kind of freak show thing.

906
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,120
Speaker 3: Or it's like step right up, ladies and behold the

907
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 3: sexiest man alive and it's just some white guy again

908
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:45,040
Speaker 3: and buckets of cold water too, sensuary and seven fainting couches.

909
00:48:45,280 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 3: Be careful, ladies, like it's just all right. And again

910
00:48:49,239 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 3: the lack of just like it's who are the like,

911
00:48:52,560 --> 00:48:55,439
Speaker 3: only the people of color to win? This have been

912
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:01,239
Speaker 3: what how many Dwayne Okay, the Rock Indrice, Oh you

913
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,600
Speaker 3: know what they did. They probably did this moral licensing

914
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,839
Speaker 3: thing where they went three years of black men. They're

915
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 3: like it was in John Legend, Michael B. Jordan and now.

916
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: We're electing Trump and now we will never have to

917
00:49:13,480 --> 00:49:15,000
Speaker 1: do that again, right right.

918
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 6: It's also like, did someone lap Michael B.

919
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: Jordan?

920
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:20,319
Speaker 6: That's ridiculous.

921
00:49:20,920 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 8: Like in the past year we've tallied the votes, Patrick

922
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 8: Dempsey got sexier.

923
00:49:25,200 --> 00:49:25,799
Speaker 6: Than Michael B.

924
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,280
Speaker 3: Jordan's.

925
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:28,800
Speaker 6: He should just keep the crown.

926
00:49:29,280 --> 00:49:32,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it would be like a King of the Hill.

927
00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:35,239
Speaker 3: Thing is like, is anyone ready to dethrone a sexiest

928
00:49:35,760 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 3: Okay I guess just.

929
00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:42,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, kind of a runway walk off the window style.

930
00:49:43,880 --> 00:49:47,200
Speaker 1: If there was like an independent media media ecosystem, it

931
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,960
Speaker 1: would be like really low hang for someone to actually

932
00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:54,319
Speaker 1: do like a rigorous version of this story and just

933
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,360
Speaker 1: be like actual sexiest man at Glen Powell.

934
00:49:57,360 --> 00:50:01,080
Speaker 6: I feel like even you do a Armie Allen White

935
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:02,680
Speaker 6: as those.

936
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 3: Are the two hotel people are so.

937
00:50:08,880 --> 00:50:13,800
Speaker 1: To lose Miles Sorry, man, this.

938
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 6: Is Trump's America Hotel. Can't be sexiest?

939
00:50:16,480 --> 00:50:19,800
Speaker 3: Sorry, yeah, bad want to get down in the election.

940
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 3: Jesse Waters, that's.

941
00:50:24,840 --> 00:50:28,920
Speaker 1: I mean in nightmare future universe, like we could be

942
00:50:28,960 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 1: headed that way. I think he's going to be running

943
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: the Department of Education.

944
00:50:31,920 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 3: I think probably before.

945
00:50:34,160 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 6: Yeah, every host from form really of the Five is

946
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:39,399
Speaker 6: going to have their own department and then and then.

947
00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: Yesterday's training like Trump did name just a Fox News

948
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: host to be Department of Defense Sexuary of Defense.

949
00:50:48,000 --> 00:50:50,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, I do think to wash his hands.

950
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 6: I do think we should do what was that guy?

951
00:50:53,880 --> 00:50:54,239
Speaker 1: Is that guy?

952
00:50:54,280 --> 00:50:57,480
Speaker 3: It's his hands, his hands pete, mm hmm.

953
00:50:58,080 --> 00:51:00,239
Speaker 8: I do think that we should have a sex this

954
00:51:00,320 --> 00:51:03,560
Speaker 8: dead guy every year. Yeah, we don't have to show

955
00:51:03,560 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 8: a current picture, but I feel like if a new

956
00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:09,359
Speaker 8: sexy guy dies, maybe they're the sexiest dead guy or.

957
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:10,480
Speaker 3: They're like that's fun.

958
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 6: Yeah.

959
00:51:13,280 --> 00:51:15,359
Speaker 3: Just coming back around to it, you're like, oh yeah,

960
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 3: I mean like, have you seen the photos?

961
00:51:17,560 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 8: And we're talking peak peak right, right right, because when

962
00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:22,800
Speaker 8: you're dead, that's that's how you should be remembered.

963
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, peak Marlon Brando, not like Islander, Doctor Moreau, Marlon Brando.

964
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:30,279
Speaker 3: Have you seen those pictures of the Billy Zame as

965
00:51:30,280 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 3: Marlon Brando and that biopic that's coming out later this year.

966
00:51:33,800 --> 00:51:37,280
Speaker 3: It's bro this motherfucker looks like Marlon Brando.

967
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:38,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

968
00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:41,600
Speaker 3: Anyway, I hate to just commandeer the segment like that,

969
00:51:41,640 --> 00:51:43,360
Speaker 3: but it just hit me because I saw a recent

970
00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:45,719
Speaker 3: pick of it and I was like, holy shit, dude,

971
00:51:45,719 --> 00:51:48,760
Speaker 3: this is this is prestige casting in terms of finding

972
00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:50,440
Speaker 3: someone that looks like Marlon Brando.

973
00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 6: Are gonna eat like they haven't since Titanic the X maybe.

974
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:00,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know. Everybody can go check out

975
00:52:00,160 --> 00:52:05,360
Speaker 1: some cool pictures of John Krasinski leaning against various things.

976
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:10,000
Speaker 1: Photo shoot has him leaning against a doorway in the

977
00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,560
Speaker 1: meatpacking district, leaning against an old timey cab, multiple old

978
00:52:14,560 --> 00:52:18,560
Speaker 1: timey cabs. He might have an inner ear situation because

979
00:52:18,560 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 1: he's really off balance in all these pictures.

980
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,280
Speaker 6: But disability representation is so important.

981
00:52:23,719 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 3: He's stealing Keith Morrison from Datelines whole fucking thing, which

982
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 3: is leaning on ship, you know what I mean. So

983
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,040
Speaker 3: there's nothing at rithen about this, y'all, just move on,

984
00:52:33,160 --> 00:52:34,240
Speaker 3: move on from him.

985
00:52:34,480 --> 00:52:36,840
Speaker 1: That was a big Instagram was like the lean is

986
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: so hot, and it was just like people like guys

987
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: leaning against doorways.

988
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:46,600
Speaker 8: People online, but it's like people are just so into engagement.

989
00:52:46,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 8: They'll be like, like food just hits different when you're hungry.

990
00:52:51,920 --> 00:52:55,480
Speaker 6: You don't need to say that, just think it.

991
00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:59,040
Speaker 1: Right, just hits different when you're hungry.

992
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,080
Speaker 8: John on Krazinski thing is so funny too, because like

993
00:53:02,480 --> 00:53:05,640
Speaker 8: even with this like action hero glow up, he's not

994
00:53:05,760 --> 00:53:08,359
Speaker 8: someone that I hear people being horny for. And at

995
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:11,440
Speaker 8: his peak right as Jim Halpert. When people were like

996
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:16,200
Speaker 8: he's dreamy. It would be like people's marriage materialist man of.

997
00:53:16,440 --> 00:53:18,359
Speaker 3: Man alive, right right, right, right right.

998
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, you know you have to issue a statement like

999
00:53:21,080 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 1: you just found out about this, like something they called

1000
00:53:23,640 --> 00:53:26,880
Speaker 1: you on Tuesday morning and we're like, hey, you won

1001
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 1: the because he's like I guys that. For me, this

1002
00:53:30,360 --> 00:53:33,720
Speaker 1: is like so weird, so wide. I don't sit around

1003
00:53:34,239 --> 00:53:39,440
Speaker 1: being like, oh I hope I'm people's sexiest man alive today.

1004
00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 1: You know, like it's just it was like phrased in

1005
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 1: a way that was like you should have written this

1006
00:53:45,239 --> 00:53:48,080
Speaker 1: out ahead of time. It looks like you did, but

1007
00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:50,080
Speaker 1: like you did a you should have had somebody else

1008
00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 1: write this out ahead of time. It seems like because

1009
00:53:53,120 --> 00:53:57,160
Speaker 1: it's not it's not selling. I'm not I'm not buying that.

1010
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 1: John Krazinski. This was not part of an aggressive campaign

1011
00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:03,960
Speaker 1: to be like what if we tried to like say,

1012
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 1: I know the last like movies we've tried. People are like,

1013
00:54:06,960 --> 00:54:11,960
Speaker 1: oh no, probably not, but like what if he was sexy?

1014
00:54:12,040 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: Have we tried that?

1015
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:14,320
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1016
00:54:14,520 --> 00:54:17,560
Speaker 6: It's also to be like faux humble. It's like when

1017
00:54:17,600 --> 00:54:20,560
Speaker 6: you're a person who's the best again still best known

1018
00:54:20,719 --> 00:54:23,400
Speaker 6: for the office. Do have a little fun with it,

1019
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:24,600
Speaker 6: you know what I mean?

1020
00:54:25,080 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 8: Like since I was a boy, I always knew I

1021
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 8: would achieve this honor, and it's it's beautiful to be

1022
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 8: recognized for the sensuous man I've always been. And I

1023
00:54:34,320 --> 00:54:37,600
Speaker 8: look forward to making love to each American individually.

1024
00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,440
Speaker 3: Now that is my prerogative.

1025
00:54:40,960 --> 00:54:45,359
Speaker 1: Could have Josh Gondleman right for you. Oh my god,

1026
00:54:45,400 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 1: it's been a dream to write for.

1027
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:50,320
Speaker 6: Write releases.

1028
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:56,680
Speaker 2: I am that unemployed. I'm going to put some poor

1029
00:54:56,760 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 2: lady named Kelsey out of work.

1030
00:54:58,600 --> 00:55:02,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

1031
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:09,480
Speaker 1: And finally KFC is suing somebody again around the phrase

1032
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:14,880
Speaker 1: original recipe. Just the concept of the original recipe seems

1033
00:55:14,920 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: to make them go crazy at KFC because churches.

1034
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,399
Speaker 3: Deigned to say that they our original recipe is back.

1035
00:55:24,600 --> 00:55:27,960
Speaker 3: Oh you fucked up, because now KFC's lawyers are coming

1036
00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:28,600
Speaker 3: for your ass.

1037
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 1: Yeah. Original recipe only refers to KFC's original recipe. We

1038
00:55:32,640 --> 00:55:36,200
Speaker 1: have trademark that and U OUs so much chicken.

1039
00:55:36,880 --> 00:55:42,640
Speaker 6: The KFC has declared they the concept of the original recipe,

1040
00:55:43,040 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 6: as if the original recipe, the first recipe ever was

1041
00:55:46,080 --> 00:55:49,240
Speaker 6: fried chicken and not potatoes over an open flame.

1042
00:55:49,640 --> 00:55:55,080
Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, so they actually say that they're not doing

1043
00:55:55,120 --> 00:55:58,719
Speaker 1: this for themselves. The lawsuit is actually on behalf of

1044
00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,600
Speaker 1: all Fried chicken lover is out there.

1045
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,800
Speaker 3: I can't figure out.

1046
00:56:04,719 --> 00:56:08,040
Speaker 1: Like how you even get to that logic, Like if

1047
00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:14,480
Speaker 1: churches stole your original recipe, how would that harm Fried

1048
00:56:14,600 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: Chicken lovers.

1049
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 3: Out there again? Because they're trying to say that we

1050
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:22,279
Speaker 3: are the protecting or that they as they are the

1051
00:56:23,080 --> 00:56:24,239
Speaker 3: standard bearer.

1052
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 8: For their flying right, they're flooding the zone with original recipes, right,

1053
00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:33,040
Speaker 8: the Steve Bannones tactic right right to diminish trust in

1054
00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:35,839
Speaker 8: mainstream chicken media.

1055
00:56:36,200 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 1: They employers, Yeah, we've kept so many people jobs. You

1056
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,759
Speaker 1: guys should love us. They're like, if we go out

1057
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,759
Speaker 1: of business, we're doing this on behalf of you guys.

1058
00:56:47,960 --> 00:56:50,719
Speaker 8: I also love the phrase that they're doing it for

1059
00:56:50,800 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 8: the Fried Chicken lovers, which sounds like the like.

1060
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:57,400
Speaker 6: The spoken word intro to the grossest R and B

1061
00:56:57,600 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 6: song of all time.

1062
00:57:00,239 --> 00:57:05,320
Speaker 1: Huh Yeah. So, just to give you a little background

1063
00:57:05,360 --> 00:57:08,560
Speaker 1: on how KFC does when it comes to the original recipe.

1064
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:12,760
Speaker 1: In two thousand, couple bought Colonel Sanders's house and discovered

1065
00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 1: a hamdwritten note that seemingly contained the recipe. They contacted KFC,

1066
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,520
Speaker 1: the most good faith thing I could imagine a human

1067
00:57:21,600 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: being doing in that scenario. They contacted KFC to be like, hey,

1068
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 1: we found your wallet. Do you want it back with

1069
00:57:29,960 --> 00:57:35,360
Speaker 1: like extra money in it?

1070
00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:41,240
Speaker 2: We found a wallet whose is it?

1071
00:57:41,360 --> 00:57:43,600
Speaker 3: Honest? The wallet? You can have it. No, we're gonna

1072
00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:45,640
Speaker 3: fund it out. That's our wallet for sure.

1073
00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,880
Speaker 1: So they sued this couple again. But just not to

1074
00:57:48,920 --> 00:57:51,640
Speaker 1: give you the wrong idea, they did say, we took

1075
00:57:51,680 --> 00:57:54,600
Speaker 1: it very seriously. We filed the lawsuit to protect the

1076
00:57:54,680 --> 00:57:57,640
Speaker 1: quality of our product and by extension, you the fried chicken.

1077
00:57:57,920 --> 00:57:58,400
Speaker 6: Fried chicken.

1078
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:00,000
Speaker 3: Yes, exactly, absolutely.

1079
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:04,560
Speaker 1: They may have a claim to the term original recipe,

1080
00:58:04,920 --> 00:58:08,840
Speaker 1: but they actually don't have like just legally speaking, that

1081
00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: is the argument they're making and in today's Supreme Court environment,

1082
00:58:13,640 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: but they actually don't have a patent on the actual

1083
00:58:17,720 --> 00:58:21,520
Speaker 1: recipe because that would require them to disclose the ingredients

1084
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:24,720
Speaker 1: and they really like they just won't do that, or

1085
00:58:24,760 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 1: so they claim they won't do that. Yeah, So anyways,

1086
00:58:28,520 --> 00:58:30,000
Speaker 1: it's like a big show.

1087
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:30,840
Speaker 3: They make them the.

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Speaker 2: Funniest, the funniest reason do not want to go through

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Speaker 2: Discovery is like they're going to find out how much

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Speaker 2: human we here.

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Speaker 3: Yeah fuck fuck yeah exactly. I mean when the sad

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Speaker 3: thing is like it's it's out there already.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's all bullshit. You can literally buy KFC season

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00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:51,360
Speaker 1: right now if you want, because Colonel Sanders himself got

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Speaker 1: the company maryon Kay to recreate his spice blend, and

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Speaker 1: then they still sell it under the name ninety nine

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00:58:58,080 --> 00:59:02,240
Speaker 1: X ninety nine dash X, which not great branding. Let

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00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:06,560
Speaker 1: they're less good at branding, but it feels more like

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00:59:06,680 --> 00:59:09,600
Speaker 1: Elon musk child name. But yeah, it feels like a

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Speaker 1: very nineteen ninety nine naming convention, Like yes, ninety.

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Speaker 3: Nine X, dude.

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Speaker 6: Is like Mountain dew.

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Speaker 3: Oh buy that, Oh buy that?

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Speaker 1: That goes well with surge, But ninety nine X doesn't

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Speaker 1: list its ingredients. However, Colonel sanders nephew leaked the recipe

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00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,920
Speaker 1: to the Chicago Tribune just a few years ago.

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00:59:34,040 --> 00:59:35,960
Speaker 3: And he died of polonium poisoning.

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00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,720
Speaker 6: They're making Boeing look real soft, right, that's right.

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00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:46,960
Speaker 3: His nephew.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it would be so embarrassing to get assassinated by KFC.

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00:59:53,400 --> 00:59:54,960
Speaker 3: I hold on, I have a knock at my door.

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Speaker 8: One second, guy, the documentary JFKFC.

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Speaker 3: Incredible from Yeah. But I just like the thing that

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Speaker 3: I love is that, like they the one thing they

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01:00:09,760 --> 01:00:11,840
Speaker 3: don't really cop to is the fact that.

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Speaker 6: They use MSG. Yeah.

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01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: You know, so they released the recipe minus the MSG,

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01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,959
Speaker 1: and somebody tried the recipe and was like, this doesn't work.

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01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:21,240
Speaker 1: Then they added MSG and they were like, oh, it's

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Speaker 1: KFC that this is KFC that I'm holding my hand

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01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,560
Speaker 1: and they reached out and KFC was like, yeah, okay,

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Speaker 1: we use them. Can't prove anything.

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Speaker 6: Kappa Yeah, MG is like fine, right, yeah, that's the word.

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Speaker 3: Which is so funny because they spent all this energy

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Speaker 3: to like keep up this myth and like act like

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01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:42,440
Speaker 3: the secret isn't just looking using MSG, like that's really

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01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:44,520
Speaker 3: what it is, Like that's what I mean, Like you

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Speaker 3: think about I just think about all this like Chinese

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01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,160
Speaker 3: restaurant syndrome, that shit that was happening in the middle

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Speaker 3: of the twentieth century. To be like these Asians are

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01:00:52,960 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 3: cheating with MSG kind of shit and maybe that's villains

1132
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,640
Speaker 3: to use that that's all bad, only for them to

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01:00:59,720 --> 01:01:02,240
Speaker 3: hold onto it like it's their fucking holy grail to

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01:01:02,240 --> 01:01:05,600
Speaker 3: be like it's MSG though actually makes it a little bit.

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01:01:05,800 --> 01:01:09,880
Speaker 3: It's a little bit more steroids. Yeah, yeah, exactly, But yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean I do know people have like actual like

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01:01:12,760 --> 01:01:15,360
Speaker 3: you know, I think like it's a glutamate like allergy

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01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,520
Speaker 3: or whatever. But for the most part, like really it's fine.

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01:01:18,560 --> 01:01:21,120
Speaker 3: It's naturally occurring too, but like try it on shit,

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01:01:21,360 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 3: you know. Little yeah, because most stuff, if you look

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01:01:23,680 --> 01:01:25,120
Speaker 3: at a lot of the seasonings that a lot of

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01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:27,480
Speaker 3: people use in the US, the stuff you're like, damn,

1143
01:01:27,520 --> 01:01:30,160
Speaker 3: that shit's good. It's like it's just look at the ingredients.

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01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:31,680
Speaker 6: It's MSG in there.

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01:01:31,720 --> 01:01:34,840
Speaker 3: It's because it's a secret thing. That's what's making stuff

1146
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:35,520
Speaker 3: hit harder.

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01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:40,280
Speaker 1: Yeah. Korean the Korean grocer next to my house, Like

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01:01:40,320 --> 01:01:43,320
Speaker 1: we have been shopping that. God damn. So much of

1149
01:01:43,360 --> 01:01:45,760
Speaker 1: these snacks are like so good. And it's because like

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01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:49,120
Speaker 1: MSG does not have as as bad a name in

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01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,400
Speaker 1: Korea as it does in the US.

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01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:54,200
Speaker 3: No, in Japan, it's called the essence of flavor, that's what.

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01:01:54,400 --> 01:01:56,840
Speaker 3: That's what It's called a geno moto like the fucking

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01:01:56,960 --> 01:02:00,360
Speaker 3: basis of flavor. And that's like it's like that's where

1155
01:02:00,440 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 3: like because some food scientist is like, fucking how do

1156
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 3: we get this like umami kind of thing out of shit,

1157
01:02:05,320 --> 01:02:08,400
Speaker 3: and that research led them to this, and then for

1158
01:02:08,520 --> 01:02:11,919
Speaker 3: decades we were just racist against food tasting good r Yeah,

1159
01:02:12,000 --> 01:02:12,720
Speaker 3: exactly right.

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Speaker 1: Not fair. It's like it's this whole the food industry

1161
01:02:18,360 --> 01:02:21,160
Speaker 1: being like not fair essentially. But yeah, I mean they've

1162
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: the secrecy, Like the whole branding around the secrecy is

1163
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 1: like they regularly staged dumb pr stunts, like they had

1164
01:02:28,120 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: an armored car with a police escort transport the recipe

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01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,440
Speaker 1: to a vault and it was contained in a briefcase

1166
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:38,040
Speaker 1: handcuffed to someone's wrist and it said KFC top secret

1167
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,800
Speaker 1: on the outside. One time they had the recipe delivered

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01:02:41,800 --> 01:02:44,200
Speaker 1: to a Swedish nuclear bunker by RoboCop.

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01:02:44,840 --> 01:02:49,440
Speaker 6: So yeah, is that even under Robocup's jurisdiction.

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01:02:50,040 --> 01:02:52,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know in This New America.

1171
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: In one of the sequels, I think so in the

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01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,080
Speaker 1: one where you can fly, Yeah, sure, I will go

1173
01:02:57,120 --> 01:03:01,000
Speaker 1: to Sweden. That's what a lot of people don't nuke.

1174
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:04,160
Speaker 1: The drug from one of the RoboCop sequels was just

1175
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's basically just like a lot of branding

1176
01:03:09,480 --> 01:03:12,040
Speaker 1: I feel like is just giving adults the thing they

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01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:14,040
Speaker 1: lost when they stopped believing in Santa Claus.

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01:03:14,360 --> 01:03:16,000
Speaker 3: You know there's actually be some magic.

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01:03:16,480 --> 01:03:20,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, so anyways, Yeah, the original recipe is closely guarded,

1180
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:25,080
Speaker 1: like the nuclear football, and KFC will kill you if

1181
01:03:25,120 --> 01:03:26,000
Speaker 1: you find out about it.

1182
01:03:27,920 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 6: And like the nuclear football, Donald Trump is desperate to

1183
01:03:32,680 --> 01:03:35,160
Speaker 6: re gain access to KFC's original recipe.

1184
01:03:35,320 --> 01:03:37,840
Speaker 3: Yeah that might randomly be true.

1185
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:42,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is that's what motivated his run for just like,

1186
01:03:42,600 --> 01:03:43,000
Speaker 1: I need to.

1187
01:03:42,960 --> 01:03:45,640
Speaker 2: Get this recipe, and he's going to open up a

1188
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:47,439
Speaker 2: bunch of fried chicken places on his own.

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Speaker 1: All right, that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist,

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Speaker 1: Please like and review the show if you like. The

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01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:01,880
Speaker 1: show means the world to Miles. He he needs your validation. Folks.

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Speaker 1: I hope you're having a great weekend and I will

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Speaker 1: talk to you Monday. Bye.