1 00:00:02,800 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: We're joined now by splash Hit Territory regular guest and 2 00:00:06,480 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: reporter for the San Francisco Chronicle covering the San Francisco Giants, 3 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,160 Speaker 1: Susan Slesser. Always great to see you, Susan. You recently 4 00:00:14,200 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 1: wrote about the Giants send Bryce Eldreds down amid woeful 5 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:20,920 Speaker 1: offensive spring showing tell us more about that. 6 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 2: Good to be with you, Hello, my friend, longtime no see. 7 00:00:26,280 --> 00:00:26,520 Speaker 3: Yeah. 8 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:29,800 Speaker 2: Bryce Eldridge was the most closely watched player in camp, 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,879 Speaker 2: absolutely no doubt about it. The Giant's top prospect and 10 00:00:35,360 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: possibly a major consideration for their full time DH roll. 11 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,319 Speaker 2: Maybe fill in a little bit of first, he's still 12 00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 2: learning first. That's actually coming along pretty well. It was 13 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:48,320 Speaker 2: the bat this spring that strikeouts were high, nearly forty 14 00:00:48,400 --> 00:00:52,680 Speaker 2: percent strikeout rate. He's young, he's twenty one. There is 15 00:00:52,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: absolutely no downside to sending him down to get regular 16 00:00:56,920 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: playing time and bring him up when he's hot. Teams 17 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 2: like to do that, get the hot bat in the 18 00:01:02,200 --> 00:01:05,240 Speaker 2: lineup when they bring somebody up. But as much as anything, 19 00:01:05,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 2: this is about somebody like gerar In Karnacion, who's out 20 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 2: of options, has played really well all spring, including defensively 21 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 2: hit one of the longest home runs I've ever seen 22 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: at Scottsdale Stadium for sixty three last week. This guy's 23 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,120 Speaker 2: having a great spring. Out of options, Luis Matos is 24 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 2: out of options. You sent Bryce Eldridge down. There's the 25 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 2: potential you can keep both guys a little more roster flexibility. 26 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 2: Those are both players that I think other teams would 27 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 2: jump on, you would have very little chance of keeping them. 28 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 2: So I think there are a lot of things going on, 29 00:01:37,480 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: But the main thing is this is not going to 30 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 2: do anything but probably help Bryce Eldridge in the long run. 31 00:01:43,240 --> 00:01:45,919 Speaker 3: But ultimately you need one hundred and sixty two games 32 00:01:45,959 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 3: with the best players. The Giants feel like going into 33 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: spring that Bryce Eldrig was going to be one of 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 3: their best players to help them because of the fact 35 00:01:55,840 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 3: that they didn't solidify the DH hole that they have 36 00:01:59,880 --> 00:02:00,720 Speaker 3: in the offseason. 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 2: Well, I think that they have numerous options at DH, 38 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 2: and I don't necessarily think you have to have one 39 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 2: designated designated hitter right Eldridge would have been fine swinging 40 00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 2: a hot bat. I don't think there's any doubt he'll 41 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 2: be up and he will contribute to this team at 42 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 2: some point. But if you're not quite ready, you're not 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,959 Speaker 2: quite ready if you want a hot bat. And there 44 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:28,080 Speaker 2: great the competition for sort of the last spot on 45 00:02:28,120 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 2: the roster, last couple spots has been really heated. They've 46 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 2: got some really good options there. So Gerari in Karnacion 47 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:37,959 Speaker 2: I think would be fine at DH. You can run 48 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: Devers through there quite a bit. He'll mostly be at 49 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 2: first where he's been quite good, and I think he 50 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:45,840 Speaker 2: under Ron Washington, I think he's going to be very good. 51 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: Luisa Rise wants to play second base, He's going to 52 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 2: start off there, but I would think at times he 53 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 2: will be an option at DH. So many possibilities there, 54 00:02:56,880 --> 00:03:00,840 Speaker 2: and that's I think with the buster posey front office 55 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,239 Speaker 2: and what Tony Vytelo, having flexibility and being able to 56 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: use the right guys at the right time is really paramount. 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:12,799 Speaker 2: And I think bringing up Eldridge when he's ready and 58 00:03:12,919 --> 00:03:15,520 Speaker 2: really swinging it well like look he has not. He's 59 00:03:15,560 --> 00:03:18,160 Speaker 2: actually said he does not feel comfortable in the box 60 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:20,720 Speaker 2: right now. Tony Vytello said he walked past him the 61 00:03:20,720 --> 00:03:23,800 Speaker 2: other night after a three strikeout game and he was 62 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: talking to the hitting coaches about not quite feeling comfortable. 63 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,000 Speaker 2: You need it, especially a twenty one year old to 64 00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 2: feel comfortable when he's up. 65 00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 3: But is there any way that he can cut that down? 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,960 Speaker 3: I mean, I get it, you're not a swing coach, 67 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,480 Speaker 3: but when you look at his minor league stats he 68 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,560 Speaker 3: had last year, he had one hundred and twenty seven 69 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 3: strikeouts in one hundred and two games. He had one 70 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,440 Speaker 3: hundred and thirty two strikeouts in one hundred and sixteen 71 00:03:47,480 --> 00:03:49,720 Speaker 3: games the year before. And now you're looking at a 72 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 3: guy that struck out, like you said, almost a forty 73 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:56,560 Speaker 3: percent clip in spring training, Like is that they brought 74 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: him to this point? I know last year was kind 75 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:00,680 Speaker 3: of like, Okay, we have to kind of rush him 76 00:04:00,680 --> 00:04:04,280 Speaker 3: because we need that spot. But he's having some success 77 00:04:04,320 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 3: on some points. But you're always going to have that 78 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:11,000 Speaker 3: strikeout thing or evaluation of him looming. 79 00:04:12,200 --> 00:04:15,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna have some strikeout to his game. Absolutely, 80 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 2: I don't think that's ever going to go away, but 81 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 2: you certainly want to reduce the percentage. And when he's 82 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: not striking out, you want to reach in base. You 83 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:25,920 Speaker 2: want him hitting homers, you want him you know he 84 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 2: Tony Bright tell us it's something interesting yesterday, like he 85 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:32,760 Speaker 2: hasn't had enough reps base running because he wasn't getting 86 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: on base. They're really trying to Now, look, right, Z, 87 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,280 Speaker 2: Eldridge is not going to be a big bas dealer 88 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 2: or anything, but they're trying to push the action. See 89 00:04:41,520 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 2: who can do what on the basis, who can handle 90 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: the bat with guys on base in various situations. Eldridge 91 00:04:48,480 --> 00:04:50,520 Speaker 2: was not quite there to do that because he wasn't 92 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 2: on base enough. So, yeah, he needs to be performing 93 00:04:54,240 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 2: if he's striking out and he wasn't. You know, he's 94 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,960 Speaker 2: so close. There's just no doubt he will be up 95 00:05:00,080 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 2: this year and he will be very good. This is 96 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 2: a big league player. The scouts all universally have said that. 97 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 2: But the scouts have also said all spring there is 98 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 2: no downside to leaving him in the minors for a 99 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:14,080 Speaker 2: month or two. Let him get into the flow, let 100 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,760 Speaker 2: him get going, be in a position to succeed when 101 00:05:17,800 --> 00:05:19,839 Speaker 2: he's up, and then you hope he's up to stay. 102 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:24,560 Speaker 1: Logan Webb Susan said that he took offense. I'm paraphrasing here, 103 00:05:24,600 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: there's not his words Forbatim, but took offense to folks 104 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,840 Speaker 1: saying that Team USA didn't care about the worlds of 105 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,960 Speaker 1: Baseball Classic, and I'm glad that he said it. I 106 00:05:32,960 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: know they cared. They may not have showed their emotions 107 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:37,120 Speaker 1: in certain ways, but that's okay. Have you had a 108 00:05:37,120 --> 00:05:39,280 Speaker 1: conversation with him by chance or just kind of what 109 00:05:39,440 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: was he like when he came back to Giants camp 110 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:42,839 Speaker 1: regarding the WBC. 111 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,559 Speaker 2: Yeah, Logan web would take that very much to heart 112 00:05:46,560 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 2: because a few people care as much about the game 113 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 2: about competition. Like you've seen him on the mout. This 114 00:05:54,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 2: is a bulldog. He wants to win. But he and 115 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:02,280 Speaker 2: I think everybody on team, all the WBC teams were 116 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 2: so proud, so happy to be part of the national team. 117 00:06:07,120 --> 00:06:10,479 Speaker 2: And I think criticism like, look, they're may be not 118 00:06:10,520 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 2: as demonstrative as some of the other teams, but I 119 00:06:14,279 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 2: don't think that's an indication of caring or not caring. Obviously, 120 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: that cared, I mean, that's that's kind of silly. But 121 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,520 Speaker 2: you've got a game in Miami with a very pro 122 00:06:25,640 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 2: Venezuela crowd, which was fun, like that was great, super loud. 123 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:32,159 Speaker 2: Any team they're playing is probably going to look a 124 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:35,760 Speaker 2: little maybe flatter in comparison because they don't have the 125 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:39,680 Speaker 2: entire crowd behind them, so I think that was all silly, Susan. 126 00:06:39,760 --> 00:06:41,560 Speaker 3: One of our one of our blocks that we're gonna 127 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:44,320 Speaker 3: be talking about later is aces and not aces. So 128 00:06:44,360 --> 00:06:47,960 Speaker 3: since we're on logan web is logan web an ace 129 00:06:48,120 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 3: in this league? 130 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:53,360 Speaker 2: Oh are you kidding me? Leeds the league and innings 131 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:57,560 Speaker 2: and basically every year all Star. I think this will 132 00:06:57,560 --> 00:07:03,240 Speaker 2: be his fifth Opening Night's start, wants the ball team leader. Absolutely, 133 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: there's just no I think he is not talked about 134 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 2: enough nationally. He's in the Cy Young race every year 135 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 2: one hundred percent. I mean, he is a top five 136 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: to six starter in the league. That's an ace. 137 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:23,280 Speaker 1: Love it, Love it, Susan. With Tony Vittello, let's talk 138 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:26,800 Speaker 1: a little bit about the change in guard there with 139 00:07:26,840 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: the new skipper. I understand, obviously coming from the college 140 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,320 Speaker 1: ranks at Tennessee, he might be implementing a couple of 141 00:07:32,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: new drills that these MLB players aren't quite used to. 142 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:39,480 Speaker 1: Tell us a little bit more about the giants sweating 143 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 1: the details under his new implementation of some drills. 144 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 2: Well, I think this is one of the main reasons 145 00:07:46,760 --> 00:07:50,760 Speaker 2: that Tony Bytello is here. Buster Posey, I think felt 146 00:07:50,800 --> 00:07:52,800 Speaker 2: like not that there was a lack of work eth 147 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,600 Speaker 2: ethnic ethic last year previous years, but I think he 148 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 2: wanted to see more hence especially pre game drills, maybe 149 00:08:02,920 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 2: more frequent drills. And Tony Vaitello, I mean, you talk 150 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 2: about somebody who knows his drills and does them at 151 00:08:09,920 --> 00:08:13,160 Speaker 2: gain speed, which I've never seen. I've never seen especially 152 00:08:13,200 --> 00:08:16,280 Speaker 2: some of these infield drills done as quickly. And Ron 153 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:20,800 Speaker 2: Washington fits into that perfectly. He's the taskmaster, he says. 154 00:08:20,800 --> 00:08:23,640 Speaker 2: If everybody does everything correctly, they can get through their 155 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 2: drills in four minutes. If they don't do it perfectly, 156 00:08:27,400 --> 00:08:29,280 Speaker 2: it's back to the You know, it's going to take 157 00:08:29,280 --> 00:08:31,960 Speaker 2: as long as it takes until it's perfect. But it's 158 00:08:31,960 --> 00:08:34,520 Speaker 2: boom boom boom. It's fun to watch. And then they 159 00:08:34,520 --> 00:08:37,320 Speaker 2: do pop up priorities like college teams do it. They 160 00:08:37,520 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 2: absolutely blare like the loudest possible newsic like it's ears liitting. 161 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 2: The first time it happened, I was like, who in 162 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,200 Speaker 2: the is doing this? 163 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:47,720 Speaker 4: At the PA? 164 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,320 Speaker 2: You tell them to turn this down, but it was. 165 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 2: It's absolutely to mimic the crowd noise. Right in college, 166 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:56,880 Speaker 2: they have to do that because they don't necessarily get 167 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,800 Speaker 2: the opportunity to have these big crowds, So at the 168 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:03,560 Speaker 2: even more important I think at the big league level, 169 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,720 Speaker 2: and that's the team loves it. Plus I think it 170 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:08,319 Speaker 2: gets them a little pumped up with the music. 171 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 3: What is the player's reaction to not that what you 172 00:09:13,080 --> 00:09:16,839 Speaker 3: were just saying, but the expectation that if it's four minutes, 173 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,880 Speaker 3: we're going to do it perfectly, Because sometimes big leaguers 174 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 3: in spring training are like, I'm kind of not just 175 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 3: going through the motions, but I'm getting my first steps down. 176 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 3: What's their reaction been to the way he runs his drills. 177 00:09:30,280 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 2: I think they love it. You know, they're all competitive people, 178 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 2: and this makes it fun. It makes it a competition, 179 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:39,040 Speaker 2: you know, and you're competing against yourself when you're trying 180 00:09:39,080 --> 00:09:41,480 Speaker 2: to do something like that. But the best part is 181 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:44,840 Speaker 2: especially for somebody like Bryce Eldridge. Eldridge told me, like I, 182 00:09:45,200 --> 00:09:47,600 Speaker 2: when the game time comes, I don't have to think 183 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,720 Speaker 2: I've just been doing this and I did it perfectly 184 00:09:50,760 --> 00:09:52,280 Speaker 2: the last time I did it, I know I did 185 00:09:52,280 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 2: it perfectly and at game speed. So they're getting as 186 00:09:56,600 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 2: close to game action as they possibly can, which, so 187 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,920 Speaker 2: you know, eric is very hard to do during the 188 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: spring during any sort of drill. This is about as 189 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,319 Speaker 2: close as you can come. So for somebody like Bryce Eldridge, 190 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 2: somebody like Louisa Rise who is really working hard to 191 00:10:12,800 --> 00:10:17,040 Speaker 2: be a better second baseman, these things matter. They absolutely do. 192 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 2: We'll see how it plays out when the actual regular 193 00:10:19,880 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 2: season starts, but I mean, everybody is feeling really good 194 00:10:23,760 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: about it. And I will say their defense has been 195 00:10:25,840 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: good and aggressive. They are, absolutely especially with the outfield 196 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: they had. The Giants had the worst outfield defense in 197 00:10:32,360 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 2: the majors last year kind of by far and a 198 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,800 Speaker 2: little bit surprisingly that Harrison Vader, and then this spring 199 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 2: they've been doing incredibly aggressive work in the outfield, both 200 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:45,560 Speaker 2: in drills and in games. They want everybody going for everything. 201 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:50,640 Speaker 2: It looks so much better. So I mean, we'll see, 202 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,600 Speaker 2: but that's so far very encouraging. 203 00:10:54,120 --> 00:10:56,319 Speaker 1: Susan Eric and I had a conversation at the top 204 00:10:56,360 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 1: of the show about the Miami Marlins and now most 205 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:03,560 Speaker 1: recently the New York Mets implementing kind of a relaying 206 00:11:03,600 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 1: of signs, if you will, from the dugout to the 207 00:11:05,800 --> 00:11:09,200 Speaker 1: catcher to call pitches. Do you think with a young 208 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:13,080 Speaker 1: manager in terms of MLB experience and Tony Botello would 209 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:16,120 Speaker 1: that be something that the San Francisco Giants would consider 210 00:11:16,360 --> 00:11:18,200 Speaker 1: me doing that a little bit more, even if it 211 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:20,360 Speaker 1: was just a suggestion the catcher, And of course the 212 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 1: pitcher has the final say, But is that something that 213 00:11:22,440 --> 00:11:23,520 Speaker 1: they might move towards. 214 00:11:24,600 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting Bytello has asked that early in the 215 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 2: spring by another outlet and sort of said like, yeah, 216 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 2: consider that. When I talk to him about it several 217 00:11:32,280 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 2: weeks later, I think that idea had at least for 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: now been put to the side. I talked to Buster 219 00:11:37,960 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 2: Posey about it. He said like, yeah, you know, we 220 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 2: would consider it, because we would consider anything, like we 221 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: take everything under advisement, of course, But when you've got 222 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 2: Patrick Bailey as your catcher, that's just not something you're 223 00:11:49,960 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 2: going to do. I mean, he is any you know, 224 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:58,000 Speaker 2: he's a platinum glove catcher, right, He's tremendous. So, uh, 225 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:00,040 Speaker 2: they are not going to do that for now. And 226 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,000 Speaker 2: I talked to Bailey and I talked to Logan Webb 227 00:12:02,320 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: and they both said, no, that's not something they're interested in. Like, 228 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,600 Speaker 2: if they had to, they would, but I don't know 229 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 2: why you would do that with Patrick Bailey. Now, hey, 230 00:12:11,280 --> 00:12:13,680 Speaker 2: if you have Daniel Susak, who's a Rule five catcher, 231 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:16,440 Speaker 2: probably going to make the team. If he's in there, 232 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:21,040 Speaker 2: maybe all bets are off maybe now and then you 233 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:22,840 Speaker 2: you know, call some pitches from the bench. But I 234 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 2: don't think this is going to be part of the 235 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: giants regular repertoire certainly most of the time. And I'd 236 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,120 Speaker 2: be a little surprised if they moved to it this year. 237 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: Susan, make sure you remember how Buster reacted when you 238 00:12:37,080 --> 00:12:38,960 Speaker 3: asked that, when you asked that to him, because he 239 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,600 Speaker 3: was lying to you. Because there is no way Buster, 240 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 3: Posey Hall future Hall of Fame catcher, is going to 241 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,439 Speaker 3: sit on his ivory tower and go, you know what 242 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,160 Speaker 3: we need in a big league team, somebody else calling 243 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 3: the pitches, you. 244 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 2: Know what I I yes, I would say that, except 245 00:12:56,400 --> 00:12:59,240 Speaker 2: for Buster has surprised us a little. We think he's 246 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,800 Speaker 2: very old school, and he is in many ways right 247 00:13:02,600 --> 00:13:06,720 Speaker 2: and hard nos catcher, absolutely he is, but he goes 248 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:09,680 Speaker 2: very outside the box to hire Tony Vaytela for instance. 249 00:13:10,040 --> 00:13:13,600 Speaker 2: You know, he went huge swing getting Raphael Devers, like 250 00:13:13,840 --> 00:13:16,360 Speaker 2: he'll surprise you, so I do think. And he's got 251 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:18,360 Speaker 2: a front office with a lot of sort of you 252 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:21,680 Speaker 2: know people who like to push, like push the envelope, 253 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 2: so maybe you know, somebody convinces him they might do it. 254 00:13:27,080 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 3: Buster likes to win, and I think the other decisions 255 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:34,440 Speaker 3: that he made lean into winning. I think the pitch 256 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:36,520 Speaker 3: calling thing, I don't know. I would love to have 257 00:13:36,600 --> 00:13:39,560 Speaker 3: the conversation with him when he's not on camera and 258 00:13:39,600 --> 00:13:41,560 Speaker 3: he doesn't have a quarter zip on, when it's just 259 00:13:41,640 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 3: the boys hanging out ex teammates hanging out, maybe at 260 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 3: his maybe at his Wall of Fame induction. We'll talk 261 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 3: about that. But I want to talk because we were 262 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,320 Speaker 3: talking about college a little bit, and you had Drew 263 00:13:52,320 --> 00:13:56,360 Speaker 3: Gilbert on the show. Normally, a player like Drew Gilbert, 264 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 3: somebody that's not an everyday starter, all star type of thing, 265 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:05,520 Speaker 3: doesn't get the type of fanfare or necessarily even the like, Hey, 266 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 3: we talked to Drew Gilbert about what Tony Mattella was like, like, 267 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 3: do you feel like his role is larger than what 268 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 3: his playing role is going to be or do you 269 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,240 Speaker 3: feel like his playing role and what he's going to 270 00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 3: be able to do on the field will kind of 271 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:24,480 Speaker 3: be amped up a little bit now that he has 272 00:14:24,520 --> 00:14:28,320 Speaker 3: a little bit more experience in the big things great question. 273 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 2: I'm not sure he's on the opening day roster. He 274 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 2: is somebody we will see, I think, quite a lot 275 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:37,200 Speaker 2: during the season, in part because what Drew Gilbert brings, 276 00:14:37,240 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 2: along with great defense and the ability to get on base, 277 00:14:41,120 --> 00:14:45,000 Speaker 2: is the energy. We saw that last year. He really 278 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 2: drove a Giant's winning street late in the season with 279 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: just his sheer exuberance. He's so fun to watch. He 280 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: fires up teammates. It's kind of kind of a nut, 281 00:14:55,560 --> 00:15:00,000 Speaker 2: especially in a dugout, in a very good way. Right. 282 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 2: He's the kind of guy that other teams can't stand, 283 00:15:03,040 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 2: that goes back to college. And obviously if I Tello 284 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 2: knows him very well, you know he's a Tennessee guy, 285 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,840 Speaker 2: so there's already that familiarity. I think all of those 286 00:15:12,920 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 2: are great things. The energy is a great thing. We 287 00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 2: will see him, But he brings a lot more than 288 00:15:20,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 2: just you know, some pretty good play as a potential 289 00:15:24,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 2: fourth outfielder type. He's a play with your hair on 290 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:30,120 Speaker 2: fire type of guy, and I think everybody needs one 291 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: of those from time to time. 292 00:15:32,040 --> 00:15:34,720 Speaker 1: Susan, I know that you came over to the Giants 293 00:15:35,080 --> 00:15:38,400 Speaker 1: more recently and you've covered the Oakland Athletics now Sacramento 294 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: Athletics for a very long time. But I am certain 295 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:43,400 Speaker 1: that you know about Barry Bonds and have talked to 296 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: him and all of the things. So now he is 297 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:50,080 Speaker 1: going to serve as a guest analyst of course, on 298 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: the coverage for Opening Night with Netflix, which is great. 299 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:56,280 Speaker 1: But it's funny to me how some of those that 300 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,440 Speaker 1: have been prickly with the media have joined the media. 301 00:16:00,080 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: What do you think Bonds will bring because he's such 302 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 1: a pilethora of knowledge, obviously, but he picks and chooses 303 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: who he gives that knowledge to. What do you think 304 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: his analysis will bring to something like that? Just knowing 305 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:12,720 Speaker 1: Barry as you do. 306 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, nobody talks about hitting as well as Barry Bonds. 307 00:16:17,880 --> 00:16:21,520 Speaker 2: And of course, if the second Barry Bonds starts to talk, 308 00:16:22,000 --> 00:16:24,880 Speaker 2: any hitter should listen to him. Any hitter, I mean, 309 00:16:24,920 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 2: whatever age this is, I mean, he's just a genius 310 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 2: when he comes to hitting. It's a pleasure to hear 311 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,440 Speaker 2: him talk. But you're right, he's priply he does not 312 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 2: speak much to the media, particularly the local media and 313 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 2: the Bay area writers. Anyway, I think he's a little 314 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,720 Speaker 2: bit more open sometimes. Two things like TV appearances. He 315 00:16:43,840 --> 00:16:46,480 Speaker 2: did some last year. He's just so good. I wish 316 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 2: he talked more. It can be frustrating for a writer 317 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 2: when you want to talk to him about hitting and 318 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: he's like, I'm not talking today, but I am really 319 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,160 Speaker 2: really looking forward to hearing what he has to say 320 00:16:57,320 --> 00:17:01,520 Speaker 2: prehim postgame on Opening Night. He knows the giants. He's, 321 00:17:01,680 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 2: you know, around a lot. He's often in the hitting cage, 322 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:09,480 Speaker 2: which I mean, how phenomenal for giants hitters, especially young hitters. 323 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 2: It's it's a great development because he has a lot 324 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 2: to share. I wish he would share it more, and 325 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: I'm glad that he is. And it's funny that you 326 00:17:17,600 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 2: talk about the prickly guys sometimes going into the media, 327 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,000 Speaker 2: you guys might have one there. He was a little prickly, 328 00:17:23,080 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: and he and I kind of like talk about that sometimes. 329 00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Are you talking about me? I was always so nice, Susan. 330 00:17:30,240 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 3: Who you're talking about? You're talking about Kevin Polar, aren't you? 331 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 3: Is that who you're talking about? 332 00:17:35,880 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 2: It is a former giant. 333 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:42,359 Speaker 3: Sure, I don't know any other giants. I don't know 334 00:17:42,400 --> 00:17:44,920 Speaker 3: any other giants that were now were prickly. I hope 335 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 3: you're not talking about Aj, he was never pretty. 336 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:51,919 Speaker 2: He's an angel, but angel, he's never. 337 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:54,920 Speaker 3: You would never say that. But AJ did get on 338 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,600 Speaker 3: Barry Bonds last year on our show at the BBW 339 00:17:58,640 --> 00:18:02,360 Speaker 3: A's and he was amazing. I was just as surprised. 340 00:18:02,880 --> 00:18:05,080 Speaker 3: But it is kind of sad when the best player 341 00:18:05,119 --> 00:18:09,199 Speaker 3: to ever wear a uniform in the major leagues you 342 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:11,800 Speaker 3: don't always get to hear. So I'm super I'll tune 343 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:13,359 Speaker 3: in just to hear him speak. 344 00:18:14,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: Oh, he's an encyclopedia and he absolutely is must watch, 345 00:18:18,119 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 1: must listen to TV. And if you didn't happen to 346 00:18:20,440 --> 00:18:24,000 Speaker 1: see the interview when he was with guys last year 347 00:18:24,040 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: at the Gala, please check it out on foul Territory. 348 00:18:26,000 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: It's well worth your time. Susan. Always appreciate you taking 349 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:30,040 Speaker 1: the time to be with us. We look forward to 350 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:32,560 Speaker 1: catching up with you, obviously reading your stuff in the 351 00:18:32,560 --> 00:18:36,399 Speaker 1: San Francisco Chronicle and as a regular guest on splash Territory. 352 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: We'll talk to you soon. 353 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:47,919 Speaker 4: Have a good day, fantastic bas guys, my pleasure. Well, okay, 354 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 4: back live to foul Territory. I've seen a lot of 355 00:18:50,560 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 4: wacky things in my day, but what is this? This 356 00:18:53,400 --> 00:18:57,639 Speaker 4: is Mookie Betts doing Yoshinobu Yama Moto's workouts. 357 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:00,440 Speaker 1: He's fully bought into it. Eric, it's this m Now 358 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,800 Speaker 1: he was throwing javelins and now he's carrying YadA sense 359 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,159 Speaker 1: on his shoulders. Again. Again there's javelin throwing. There's what 360 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 1: looks to be like some sort of shot put throwing 361 00:19:10,800 --> 00:19:14,639 Speaker 1: as well. Twenty twenty seven, sit in the ward goes 362 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:18,080 Speaker 1: to Mooki Bets because he got bored at short stuff. 363 00:19:18,920 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: What do you make of this new I mean it's 364 00:19:20,520 --> 00:19:21,600 Speaker 1: working for Yamamoto. 365 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 2: He was the World. 366 00:19:22,440 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: Series MVP, but now MVP Mooky Bets perhaps on the 367 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: scene with YadA sense on his shoulders. 368 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 2: What are we doing? 369 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:37,160 Speaker 3: I mean, we are trying to emulate the good things 370 00:19:37,359 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 3: that elite people do. Is that Yaamoto. Yamamoto is definitely 371 00:19:43,720 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 3: elite in what he does to train to get ready, 372 00:19:47,160 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 3: how his body moves, and that's really all that is. 373 00:19:50,480 --> 00:19:54,040 Speaker 3: Look if a kid go goes and builds a rocket 374 00:19:54,119 --> 00:19:59,280 Speaker 3: and launches it like Yamamoto's throwing a javelin, you know 375 00:19:59,320 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 3: what I think it You know it's not gonna work 376 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 3: quite as well. But there's a lot that goes into that. 377 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,479 Speaker 3: There's there's a lot of thought process in Okay, what 378 00:20:06,560 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: is he trying to feel? He's not like running up 379 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:12,240 Speaker 3: and throwing the javelin. It's not necessarily going as far 380 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:16,159 Speaker 3: as yamamotos is, but it's how his body is moving 381 00:20:16,200 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 3: in sequence. We're watching it right now for the podcast crowd. 382 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:24,199 Speaker 3: He has YadA sense. Mooki has YadA sense on his 383 00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:27,920 Speaker 3: shoulders and he's just stepping sideways. He's not going into 384 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,560 Speaker 3: a deep lunge. He's in a safe position. And it's 385 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,439 Speaker 3: really about how his body's moving. And ultimately, if your 386 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:40,440 Speaker 3: body moves correctly, you have enough strength, enough, enough physicality, 387 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 3: enough flexibility, you can last in entire season plus the 388 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 3: postseason and you'll be healthy. And that's really what that's 389 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:53,000 Speaker 3: really why you're doing these drills. And if anybody's gonna 390 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: like like really master something, it's something like it's somebody 391 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,480 Speaker 3: like Moki muky. He picks it up any pretty much 392 00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:03,919 Speaker 3: masters it compared to like the average folk. But then 393 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 3: if he continues to work at it, this guy's a 394 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 3: limit for a guy like this. He changed to shortstop. 395 00:21:09,560 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: He changed a shortstop last year from right field. He 396 00:21:13,119 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 3: was originally a second basement and he played shortstop for 397 00:21:16,200 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 3: the world champion Dodgers. That is a crazy thing that 398 00:21:19,320 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 3: I think people gloss over and I'm like, well, Mookie's 399 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 3: just really good. He can bowl too, but it's everything 400 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 3: and he wants to get better. 401 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:28,680 Speaker 1: He is a three hundred bowler. What do you think? 402 00:21:28,680 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 1: And I'm not asking you to be a doctor or 403 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:33,199 Speaker 1: yata sense or a sense of any sort. What do 404 00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: you think though it does carrying somebody on your shoulders? 405 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: Is that more for just alignment? 406 00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 2: Body alignment? 407 00:21:39,560 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 4: Like? 408 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:43,600 Speaker 1: What balance? Okay, how does that translate as being a shortstop? 409 00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:44,680 Speaker 1: How does that help him? 410 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 3: Do you think everything in baseball, every position you play 411 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,840 Speaker 3: is all about balance, if you're leaning one side or 412 00:21:50,840 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 3: the other. I'm sure we saw him moving to his 413 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,320 Speaker 3: right our left on the screen. I'm sure he did 414 00:21:56,359 --> 00:22:00,840 Speaker 3: the same thing back. A big thing in Japanese. I 415 00:22:00,840 --> 00:22:03,720 Speaker 3: don't know about other sports, but in Japanese baseball training, 416 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:08,320 Speaker 3: they really work on balance and the ability to do 417 00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 3: the same thing from both sides. I used to watch 418 00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,080 Speaker 3: you Darvis after he would pitch. I never played with him, 419 00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,159 Speaker 3: but I played against him. He'd throw. He'd come out 420 00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:19,840 Speaker 3: the next day and he'd throw with his translator left 421 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 3: handed he would throw the exact number of pitches that 422 00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:25,840 Speaker 3: he threw right handed the day before in the game 423 00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 3: left handed, to the point where he would long toss 424 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 3: left handed. And it was all about balance for each 425 00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:37,080 Speaker 3: side of his body. And so yeah, I mean putting 426 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: somebody on your back. People would be like, what if 427 00:22:39,880 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 3: Muki hurt himself? You're right, That's why you do it 428 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:45,199 Speaker 3: with somebody who knows exactly what they're doing. He's not, 429 00:22:45,840 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 3: you know, arching his bag, he's not. There's so many 430 00:22:48,560 --> 00:22:51,719 Speaker 3: things that I think can help, and so many workout 431 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,240 Speaker 3: There's been so many workouts since I started in two 432 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 3: thousand and two in professional baseball. Working house working out 433 00:22:58,960 --> 00:23:03,600 Speaker 3: has changed completely from where we were. But the reality is, 434 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,920 Speaker 3: if you don't work hard at whatever you're doing, you're 435 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,120 Speaker 3: not going to get anything out of it. 436 00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 1: Let me ask you this because you had mentioned you Darvish, 437 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,120 Speaker 1: who would come out with his trainer his interpreter rather 438 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: and throw left handed or from the left side. He 439 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:19,679 Speaker 1: is part Iranian and he is part Japanese. Obviously we 440 00:23:19,720 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 1: know that Yoshinobu Yamamoto is Japanese. You think we should 441 00:23:22,880 --> 00:23:27,560 Speaker 1: be tapping more into the Japanese style of body development 442 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,639 Speaker 1: and working out. I mean, there's something obviously to be 443 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 1: learned from their style. That's my first question. Second question 444 00:23:34,119 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 1: is you mentioned also that things have changed dramatically over 445 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,919 Speaker 1: the course of working out since you've been playing. What 446 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,879 Speaker 1: are some of the more unique things that you've seen 447 00:23:41,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: in your time. 448 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,040 Speaker 3: I mean, well, the first question, yes, we should tap 449 00:23:47,119 --> 00:23:49,720 Speaker 3: into it, but not as the end all be all. 450 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: Just like anything heavy ball workouts, Olympic workouts, stretching, mobility, recovery, 451 00:23:56,680 --> 00:23:59,720 Speaker 3: all that stuff. Learn more about it as a big 452 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 3: ly player. All that stuff is doing. Yeah, you might 453 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:07,439 Speaker 3: hit the ball five feet farther, you might throw it 454 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 3: one or two miles an hour harder, but ultimately all 455 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,399 Speaker 3: that stuff. If you're not willing to listen to what 456 00:24:14,440 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 3: a Japanese trainer has to say, what a powerlifting trainer 457 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:22,480 Speaker 3: has to say, what your athletic trainer, your ats that 458 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 3: are on the team has to say, your massage therapist. 459 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,520 Speaker 3: If you're not listening, you're going to miss something that 460 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:30,240 Speaker 3: could possibly keep you on the field, that could possibly 461 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,280 Speaker 3: help your team win a world championship. And your second 462 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 3: question was what's the craziest thing that I ever saw? 463 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,000 Speaker 3: I always tell the story of the craziest thing that 464 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:42,040 Speaker 3: I did. When I first got drafted, the Blue Jays 465 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:45,920 Speaker 3: had the Blue Jays had strength coaches at every level. 466 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:47,919 Speaker 3: They were one of the first organizations to do it. 467 00:24:47,960 --> 00:24:53,040 Speaker 3: We had a interim strength coach at Alberta up and 468 00:24:53,160 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 3: up in Alberta Medicine Hat Alberta. We're the Medicine Hat 469 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,200 Speaker 3: blue Jays. At the end of the season, they gave 470 00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:01,560 Speaker 3: us a pamphlet, a booklet that had each day of 471 00:25:01,600 --> 00:25:04,199 Speaker 3: the off season and you could write out what you 472 00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,760 Speaker 3: know your weight was in each of the workouts. Well, 473 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:11,040 Speaker 3: at the end of the one workout there was cuff exercises, 474 00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 3: rotator cuff exercises, so essentially your for your shoulders and 475 00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,600 Speaker 3: to keep you healthy. Nobody explained any of it to me, 476 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:22,000 Speaker 3: So I went in just the way I went into anything, 477 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 3: as hard as I could possibly go. And I got 478 00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 3: to the point where in the off season there's an 479 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600 Speaker 3: exercise where you basically hold your hands here like this 480 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 3: and you put your hands out. It's basically called no 481 00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:36,280 Speaker 3: Money's and it's for stability of your shoulders. And by 482 00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 3: the end of the off season, I had ninety fives 483 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:41,639 Speaker 3: and I was doing I mean, I'm fifty fives. I 484 00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: was doing fifty fives at the end of my workout. 485 00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 3: These no moneies. Okay. We go into first day of 486 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:50,920 Speaker 3: spring training and the athletic trainer stands up front. He's like, okay, guys, 487 00:25:50,920 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 3: we're gonna work on our shoulder cuff exercise, you know, 488 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 3: so that we have shoulder stability. And all these exercises 489 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,920 Speaker 3: we're doing with five pounds or less, you can even 490 00:26:00,960 --> 00:26:03,919 Speaker 3: do them. Just look at band and I'm like, and 491 00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:07,439 Speaker 3: I'm doing fifty five. I was like, holy crap, that 492 00:26:07,520 --> 00:26:10,439 Speaker 3: could have been mad. So I was an idiot.