1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,160 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sucks Sextant Show. Appreciate 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,960 Speaker 1: all of you hanging out with us. Friday edition eight 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:10,000 Speaker 1: hundred and two to two, eight A two. You can 4 00:00:10,039 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 1: always react to everything that we are talking about or 5 00:00:14,280 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: have talked about all week long, and beyond a bunch 6 00:00:18,040 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: of big news stories out there, we have been discussing 7 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: Don Lemon and the fact that it may be the 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:27,800 Speaker 1: best thing for his career that he has been arrested 9 00:00:27,840 --> 00:00:29,480 Speaker 1: for what he did in the church. We have been 10 00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:33,240 Speaker 1: discussing it in the context of the precedent set on 11 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:37,400 Speaker 1: January sixth, when the Biden administration charged multiple people who 12 00:00:37,400 --> 00:00:40,919 Speaker 1: claim to be affiliated with right wing organizations when they 13 00:00:41,200 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 1: entered that facility. 14 00:00:44,520 --> 00:00:46,080 Speaker 2: The capital on that day. 15 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: And I think it's actually a super interesting dynamic associated 16 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: with that. The President has been taking questions from inside 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: of the Oval Office as he has announced, among other things, 18 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,040 Speaker 1: a new IndyCar race that's going to take place in Washington, 19 00:01:04,160 --> 00:01:08,280 Speaker 1: d C. It'll be the first race, according to Sean Duffy, 20 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,600 Speaker 1: the Secretary of Transportation, since in eighteen oh one horse race. 21 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Several other things that are out there, a lot of 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: discussion about whether the President is going to do anything 23 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: with Iran. Lots of questions coming about that for him. 24 00:01:22,920 --> 00:01:25,920 Speaker 1: Just now in the Oval office, we should mention the 25 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 1: Luigi Mangioni case. That is the individual on camera who 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:35,080 Speaker 1: shot and killed the healthcare CEO of United Healthcare. He 27 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: has been determined not to be standing trial for the 28 00:01:39,880 --> 00:01:42,600 Speaker 1: death penalty, so they have decided not to go after 29 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:49,160 Speaker 1: the maximum penalty associated with that. But the other story 30 00:01:49,200 --> 00:01:53,240 Speaker 1: that is substantial today is we have had three million 31 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: pages of the Epstein files released, hundreds of thousands as 32 00:01:58,200 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 1: well documents, videos and. 33 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:02,440 Speaker 2: Pictures. 34 00:02:02,880 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: And here is Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanche discussing that 35 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,640 Speaker 1: I would say about what do you think five percent 36 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,840 Speaker 1: of this audience buck is just completely obsessed with the 37 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:17,960 Speaker 1: Epstein files. That's all they want to talk about. Maybe 38 00:02:17,960 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: it's ten percent, relatively small part of the audience that 39 00:02:21,080 --> 00:02:23,360 Speaker 1: this is the most important thing to them. But for 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 1: those of you of whom this is the most important 41 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:31,440 Speaker 1: thing to you, cut one Todd Blanche on the Epstein files. 42 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: Today, we are producing more than three million pages, including 43 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:39,400 Speaker 3: more than two thousand videos and one hundred and eighty 44 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:44,639 Speaker 3: thousand images in total. That means that the Department produced 45 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,400 Speaker 3: approximately three and a half million pages in compliance with 46 00:02:47,480 --> 00:02:51,280 Speaker 3: the Act. We aired on the side of over collection 47 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:56,560 Speaker 3: of materials from various sources to best ensure maximum transparency 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 3: and compliance, which necessarily means that the number of responsive 49 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 3: pages is significantly smaller than the total number of pages 50 00:03:04,400 --> 00:03:07,560 Speaker 3: initially collected. That's why I mentioned a moment ago, we're 51 00:03:07,600 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 3: releasing more than three million pages today than not the 52 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 3: six million pages that we collected. 53 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:16,920 Speaker 1: All right, second, by the way, second part of this, 54 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: and then I'll react to that. He also said, any 55 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:25,120 Speaker 1: Epstein document that would jeopardize active federal investigations not being released, 56 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:25,520 Speaker 1: cut to. 57 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,280 Speaker 4: I want to address what we didn't produce. The categories 58 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 4: of documents withheld include those permitted under the Act to 59 00:03:31,440 --> 00:03:36,480 Speaker 4: be withheld, files that contains personally identify information of victims 60 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 4: or victims, personal and medical files, and similar files to 61 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 4: the disclosure of which would constitute a clearly unwarded invasion 62 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:47,480 Speaker 4: of personal privacy. Any depiction of s SAM or child 63 00:03:47,520 --> 00:03:51,040 Speaker 4: pornography was obviously excluded, anything that would jeopardize an active 64 00:03:51,080 --> 00:03:55,320 Speaker 4: federal investigation, and finally, anything that depicts or contain images 65 00:03:55,360 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 4: of death, physical abuse, or injury also not produced. 66 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:04,880 Speaker 1: Okay, Buck, So this is probably not gonna The reality 67 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:08,400 Speaker 1: is the Epstein people are never going to be satisfied. 68 00:04:09,040 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 1: Every time that there is a substantial release of a 69 00:04:12,240 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: tranch of documents, there's going to be a discussion about, Oh, 70 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: they held things back, Oh the cover up is ongoing. 71 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,400 Speaker 1: I give credit. I don't even think we talked about this. 72 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,000 Speaker 1: The New York Times magazine actually had a huge piece 73 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:30,320 Speaker 1: probably three four weeks ago. I would guess that went 74 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:33,800 Speaker 1: into what I think is the most intriguing question, which 75 00:04:33,839 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 1: is how did Jeffrey Epstein actually make all of his money? 76 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:40,599 Speaker 1: And they did a pretty good job of tracing where 77 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:44,839 Speaker 1: that money came from, I thought, because again his estate 78 00:04:44,920 --> 00:04:49,560 Speaker 1: ended up being worth nearly seven hundred million dollars and 79 00:04:49,800 --> 00:04:52,719 Speaker 1: a lot of it. Buck, seems like almost that he 80 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: just bullied and cajoled and kind of created this situation 81 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 1: where Lex Wexner, who was the founder of Victorious Secret, 82 00:05:03,880 --> 00:05:07,280 Speaker 1: kind of signed over all of his you know, basic 83 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: right rights as an attorney, you know, basically gave over 84 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: power of attorney power of attorney to Epstein, and Epstein 85 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:19,320 Speaker 1: was running a lot of his stuff. And anyway, I 86 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: don't think this is going to quiet the people who 87 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:24,280 Speaker 1: are obsessed with Epstein, because I'm just telling you the truth. 88 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: I don't think you're ever going to get some huge 89 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: indictment that brings all the charges that you had been 90 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: hoping you were going to get. I think you were 91 00:05:33,040 --> 00:05:35,560 Speaker 1: talking about this in the context of the JFK files. 92 00:05:35,640 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: I think if that evidence had existed, they would have 93 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: used it long ago. 94 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:41,440 Speaker 2: I would point out that. 95 00:05:41,360 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: Biden had all of these documents for four years, and 96 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,839 Speaker 1: all of the Democrats who claimed that they care so 97 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: much about Epstein now didn't demand that Biden released those 98 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:53,240 Speaker 1: documents for four years. They only see it as a 99 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 1: political cudgel to wield against Trump. And so that is 100 00:05:58,000 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: what I would say is going to be the outcome 101 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: of these millions of documents as they are released today. 102 00:06:06,320 --> 00:06:07,480 Speaker 2: I think that's all accurate. 103 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: So the only thing, by the way, we've disagreed on 104 00:06:10,160 --> 00:06:12,400 Speaker 1: so far in the show is Martha Stewart, which is 105 00:06:12,480 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: very very funny. Well, when you can issue your correction 106 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: before the end of the show and we can just 107 00:06:18,960 --> 00:06:22,839 Speaker 1: let bygones be bygones, But clearly Martha Stewart peaked before 108 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:25,240 Speaker 1: she got arrested. Though we agree on the on the 109 00:06:25,279 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 1: don Limb everything. I agree on Epstein, we disagree on 110 00:06:28,240 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 1: Martha Stewart, but sorry, I cut you out. 111 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: I just think that's funny. But you basically agree with 112 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,479 Speaker 2: this TAKEO, because I think it is the take. 113 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,839 Speaker 5: I think there was too much agreement here and you 114 00:06:35,880 --> 00:06:37,919 Speaker 5: decided to take one for the team by taking the 115 00:06:37,960 --> 00:06:40,479 Speaker 5: clearly incorrect take on Martha Stewart, which is, you know, 116 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:43,119 Speaker 5: that's the kind of team player you are, And it'll 117 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:44,520 Speaker 5: just take time for you to come around in the 118 00:06:44,600 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 5: light on that one. In the meantime, Yeah, on the 119 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:49,719 Speaker 5: Epstein situation, on the things that really matter today on 120 00:06:49,760 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 5: the show, there's there's nothing that's going to come out 121 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,239 Speaker 5: of this of any significance. No one's going to prison, 122 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:58,520 Speaker 5: nothing's coming out of it. That's just the deal. And 123 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:00,359 Speaker 5: I don't know what to say other than this is 124 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 5: the This is a huge document dump, millions more pages 125 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 5: someone's gonna have to go through. 126 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 2: Now. 127 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 5: I will say this, it's not hard to go through 128 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 5: them because of AI. Now you can scan through a 129 00:07:13,120 --> 00:07:17,280 Speaker 5: million pages like this is not something that you would 130 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 5: need one hundred pair of legals paid, you know, fifty 131 00:07:21,680 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 5: bucks an hour. You can go through this very rapidly 132 00:07:25,080 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 5: to look for certain things. So check for yourself if 133 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 5: you want. There's nothing in there. If there was, someone 134 00:07:33,000 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 5: would be telling you about it right now already because 135 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 5: it's being released by the DOJ. When I say there's 136 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 5: nothing in there, I mean there's nothing that's going to 137 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:45,760 Speaker 5: be oh my gosh, look at this. We finally found 138 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,360 Speaker 5: the foreign intelligence service that was running him, We finally 139 00:07:49,400 --> 00:07:53,200 Speaker 5: found the super powerful individual who was involved in trafficking 140 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 5: girls with him. That's not going to be in there 141 00:07:57,200 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 5: because DJ. Think about what that would mean. DJ would 142 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 5: have had this stuff, had it for years, had the 143 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 5: capability to go through it, released it being like eh, 144 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 5: and then let people just figure out what was really like. 145 00:08:11,120 --> 00:08:13,720 Speaker 5: That doesn't make any sense. It mean, what I'm saying 146 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 5: is if you want to believe that they held stuff 147 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 5: back that does have that, fine. If you want to 148 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 5: believe that there's a lot of stuff that they don't 149 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:24,560 Speaker 5: even have or that never even made it in these files. 150 00:08:24,920 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 5: By the way, I think I co signed that, fine. 151 00:08:28,640 --> 00:08:30,760 Speaker 5: But if you want to tell me that they have it, 152 00:08:30,800 --> 00:08:34,560 Speaker 5: they released it and there's amazing nuggets of truth in 153 00:08:34,600 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 5: there to finally bring this whole thing together. That DOJ 154 00:08:37,640 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 5: is not highlighting. I think that's very very unlikely. That's 155 00:08:42,920 --> 00:08:45,240 Speaker 5: that's kind of how I would assess this. We're talking 156 00:08:45,240 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 5: about going through millions of pages by the way of documents. 157 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: What three million was the number three million, hundreds of 158 00:08:52,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: thousands of images. I do think there will be emails 159 00:08:56,040 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 1: maybe that come out that are embarrassing for people in 160 00:08:59,120 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 1: positions of prompt dominance, to show what kind of relationship 161 00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: they had with Epstein, meaning they emailed with him regularly 162 00:09:06,679 --> 00:09:10,319 Speaker 1: and he was enmessed very much in quote unquote elite 163 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: society in many ways. But again, I think the likelihood 164 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: of their being substantial impact here is minimal. And in 165 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 1: order for there to be a cover up, the cover 166 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 1: up would have to cross all parties, right Barack Obama 167 00:09:26,240 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: would have had to cover up, Donald Trump one would 168 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,960 Speaker 1: have had to cover up, Joe Biden two one would 169 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:33,560 Speaker 1: have had to cover up, and Trump two would have 170 00:09:33,559 --> 00:09:36,959 Speaker 1: had to cover up. My argument on it is Democrats 171 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 1: and Republicans agree on virtually nothing. And if you think 172 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: that there had been damning information in the Epstein files 173 00:09:44,840 --> 00:09:49,440 Speaker 1: against Trump that they wouldn't have used against him during 174 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: this entire last decade of his political career, I just 175 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 1: think that's bonker. So look, I think this is a 176 00:09:55,760 --> 00:10:00,760 Speaker 1: rich dude. I think that he used his wealth to 177 00:10:00,760 --> 00:10:04,680 Speaker 1: to get access to other super wealthy people, and he 178 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: was preying on a lot of young women utilizing his wealth. 179 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: I think one reason they're not putting out documents tubuck, 180 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:14,199 Speaker 1: it's hard to know some of these girls in these photos, 181 00:10:14,559 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 1: these fifteen, sixteen, seventeen year old girls, they don't want 182 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:22,240 Speaker 1: suddenly their images out on the internet. Where you're trying 183 00:10:22,280 --> 00:10:24,560 Speaker 1: to recover from the fact that you had an interaction 184 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:28,120 Speaker 1: with Epstein back in the day and suddenly everywhere is 185 00:10:28,160 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: your photograph with Epstein when you were a minor like 186 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: this is a big part of trying to figure out 187 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 1: I think that's probably the most challenging part of this. 188 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:35,840 Speaker 2: Well. 189 00:10:35,880 --> 00:10:38,920 Speaker 5: Also, I think that a lot of the individuals who 190 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 5: have already it's been shown proven that they were in 191 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:46,440 Speaker 5: close and continuing friendly contact with Epstein even after the 192 00:10:46,440 --> 00:10:50,439 Speaker 5: initial sex offender registry all of that stuff, you know, 193 00:10:50,520 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 5: play some of them would would probably say, if pushed, 194 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:57,280 Speaker 5: you know, yeah, he had connections, he had a jet, 195 00:10:57,440 --> 00:11:00,559 Speaker 5: and he had connections into Les Westerner and Victoria Secret 196 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,960 Speaker 5: models who of age right like women in their early twenties, 197 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: mid twenties. You know that they'll say that the part 198 00:11:09,440 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 5: of him that was interesting was that either Epstein was 199 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:15,559 Speaker 5: just so charming or the victorious secret connection meaning meaning 200 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: again of age women, and that they had no idea 201 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 5: about the underage women, They had no idea about the 202 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 5: sex trafficking. 203 00:11:21,960 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 2: And it's very. 204 00:11:22,600 --> 00:11:27,160 Speaker 5: Without proof, it's very hard to disentangle that. And in 205 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 5: some cases I think that actually is true. I mean, look, 206 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 5: Trump knew him, for example. I don't think Trump knew 207 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 5: anything about any underage sketchy stuff going on or illegal 208 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 5: stuff going on. Trump was the one who kicked him 209 00:11:37,240 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 5: out of mar A Lago. But we know that he 210 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,320 Speaker 5: was rubbing elbows with the most powerful people in the 211 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 5: entire really the entire world, because when you said the 212 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:46,319 Speaker 5: most powerful in America, you're really saying the world. 213 00:11:46,559 --> 00:11:47,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. 214 00:11:47,240 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 5: And so then it's well, who who was with him 215 00:11:50,800 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 5: for the wrong reasons or who was with him for 216 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 5: reasons that would make them a co conspirator and something criminal. 217 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 5: And I don't think that's in the pages. This is 218 00:11:59,400 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 5: this is where I get back to him. I think 219 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,280 Speaker 5: you're right, there may be more. Was it like Larry summers. 220 00:12:03,320 --> 00:12:04,840 Speaker 5: There's a bunch of emails between them and. 221 00:12:05,320 --> 00:12:08,559 Speaker 1: Everybody states and some of these guys that clearly had 222 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:14,440 Speaker 1: a personal relationship with with Epstein, they were regularly emailing him. 223 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,160 Speaker 1: I think probably some of that will come out and 224 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: continue to be embarrassing, but I don't think there's gonna 225 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 1: be any sudden bombshell where everybody says, oh my goodness, 226 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: this changes everything relating to the Epstein charges. 227 00:12:27,120 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: And look, I'm curious what the Epstein core in this audience, 228 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,480 Speaker 5: like the people that really want Epstein files cors I 229 00:12:35,480 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 5: should say, that really want this stuff to come out. 230 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,760 Speaker 2: Is today meaningful? 231 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:45,679 Speaker 5: I've sort of been here all along where I feel 232 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,600 Speaker 5: like anything that they had that would have been meaningful 233 00:12:47,600 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 5: we would have known about a long time ago. Maybe 234 00:12:49,640 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 5: I'm wrong, but I'm wondering to those who just want 235 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:56,079 Speaker 5: the transparency, who want this process, is today a step 236 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: in the right direction, not nearly enough? Still part of 237 00:12:59,440 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 5: a cover up? You know, let us know on the 238 00:13:01,960 --> 00:13:05,239 Speaker 5: talkbacks and the emails. I'm curious because I don't guarantee 239 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:06,400 Speaker 5: you it's still argument. 240 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:08,640 Speaker 1: They're going to argue it's a cover up, like there's 241 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: nothing that could occur that is going to change the 242 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: mind of people who believe that Epstein was the leader 243 00:13:15,360 --> 00:13:17,439 Speaker 1: of a crazy cabal. 244 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:20,960 Speaker 5: Of yeah, like a international pedal ring running the world. 245 00:13:21,040 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 5: Yeah wait, I mean he was running international underage sex trafficking. 246 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 5: I mean that that is true. But you know who 247 00:13:28,080 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 5: else was involved and how much power did they have 248 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,240 Speaker 5: and were there any foreign countries that knew about this? 249 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 5: That's all still very much talked about. I will say, though, Clay, 250 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 5: to those who feel that way, they have some there's 251 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 5: a lot of data points, even over the last year 252 00:13:42,960 --> 00:13:46,120 Speaker 5: that are the way this was handled was really really bad. 253 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 5: And now it's a question is it was it handled 254 00:13:49,720 --> 00:13:53,880 Speaker 5: this way out of stupidity and in competence or something else. 255 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 5: People are always going to be able to make their 256 00:13:56,440 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 5: own determinations about that, and I think that's fair because 257 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,439 Speaker 5: the way this was, the whole Binders thing at the 258 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:06,040 Speaker 5: White House and everything, it was bizarre and and it's 259 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 5: completely reasonable to say what the heck was that it's 260 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 5: the biggest failure of Trump one point Trump two point zero. 261 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even know what a close 262 00:14:15,920 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 1: second is right now, the way that they handled Epstein 263 00:14:19,960 --> 00:14:24,440 Speaker 1: in the way BONDI influencers with the binders. I mean 264 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,600 Speaker 1: they looked like everyone involved in that look like a moron. 265 00:14:28,920 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: It was bad. 266 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 5: All right, we'll take your calls, your emails on that 267 00:14:31,600 --> 00:14:33,960 Speaker 5: and we'll get into some more. And why do we 268 00:14:33,960 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 5: have Julie Kelly joining second hour top of the two 269 00:14:36,480 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 5: o'clock to Eastern Julie Kelly? 270 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:40,720 Speaker 1: Do have the very Attorney General at the bottom of 271 00:14:40,760 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: this hour Buck to talk about the challenge to census 272 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: rules that allows illegal immigrants to be counted. 273 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 5: Interesting, that'll be a good conversation. 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Let 315 00:16:44,800 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 5: me're talking to Missouri Attorney General Catherine Henaway, and we'll 316 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:54,200 Speaker 5: be discussing the case of whether illegals should be counted 317 00:16:54,440 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 5: or census purposes. I clearly think that this is it's 318 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:06,359 Speaker 5: not what the founders intended. It benefits people who should 319 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 5: not be benefiting from their presence there, and it's the 320 00:17:11,160 --> 00:17:13,359 Speaker 5: whole thing is a mess. But Supreme Court is going 321 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:16,800 Speaker 5: to be taking this one up, and that's major, major, 322 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 5: big deal. 323 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: Mister Clay. Where do you think it's all heading. It's 324 00:17:20,840 --> 00:17:22,919 Speaker 1: a great question. I think it is one of the 325 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: most consequential cases. Remember, they're also analyzing majority minority districts 326 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,239 Speaker 1: and whether they're still constitutional or not. I think the 327 00:17:30,280 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 1: interplay of both of these could swing control of the 328 00:17:33,600 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 1: House of Representatives in twenty twenty six, through the Supreme 329 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 1: Court prism. We'll talk about this with Catherine Hanaway a 330 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: legally big time impact. 331 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:45,280 Speaker 5: You have you ever put a wager like on one 332 00:17:45,280 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 5: of these sites on a Supreme Court outcome? 333 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the one that I'll tell you about 334 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:53,360 Speaker 1: this at the end of the hour of Clay's like, yeah, 335 00:17:53,400 --> 00:17:54,639 Speaker 1: of course, what do you think this is? 336 00:17:54,840 --> 00:17:56,720 Speaker 2: Who do you think you're talking to here? All right? 337 00:17:56,760 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 5: Owning gold is for everyone, not just the precious view 338 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:01,320 Speaker 5: you can purchase. There's gold easily enough for the help 339 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 5: of Birch Gold Group. I just put the gold away 340 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 5: in my safe here at home because I bought some 341 00:18:07,080 --> 00:18:09,159 Speaker 5: more from Birch Gold Group, because I'm adding to my 342 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 5: gold holdings over time, the gold that I've had for 343 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,399 Speaker 5: a long time. Oh man, it has been phenomenal in 344 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 5: terms of the value increase. Hop over seventy percent just 345 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,080 Speaker 5: last year, but up seven hundred percent over the last 346 00:18:21,080 --> 00:18:21,600 Speaker 5: twenty years. 347 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:22,679 Speaker 2: Think about that per second. 348 00:18:23,040 --> 00:18:26,159 Speaker 5: Your time to buy gold, my friends, claim your eligibility 349 00:18:26,200 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: and start the process. 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Text Buck 358 00:18:51,520 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 5: to ninety eight ninety eight ninety eight. 359 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:57,680 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Klay Travis buck Sexton Show Friday Edition. 360 00:18:57,760 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: A lot of you weighing in on a variety of 361 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: different top One that I think is potentially transformative in 362 00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:07,159 Speaker 1: terms of what it could mean for the House of Representatives, 363 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:09,239 Speaker 1: for what it could mean for our country, for what 364 00:19:09,280 --> 00:19:11,880 Speaker 1: it could mean for the incentives that are out there 365 00:19:11,920 --> 00:19:15,199 Speaker 1: when it comes to illegal immigration. Is the fact that 366 00:19:15,320 --> 00:19:20,040 Speaker 1: in our census we count illegal immigrants for purposes of 367 00:19:20,080 --> 00:19:24,439 Speaker 1: allocating House seats. That sounds very nerdy, I understand for 368 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,680 Speaker 1: many of you, but in a fifty to fifty country, 369 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: it is a huge benefit for the Democrat Party and 370 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 1: means that they have several more House seats than they 371 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 1: otherwise would. We bring in now, Missouri Attorney General Katherine Hannaway, 372 00:19:39,040 --> 00:19:42,679 Speaker 1: who is involved in suing based on this as it 373 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: pertains to census allocation. 374 00:19:45,280 --> 00:19:47,160 Speaker 2: Did I do a good job of explaining that. 375 00:19:47,280 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Take a step back, and you know you're talking no 376 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:52,919 Speaker 1: pressure to millions of people out there right now. What 377 00:19:53,119 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: should our average listener know about why this matters to 378 00:19:57,400 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: them in a simple way of explaining it? 379 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 7: Well, First, Clay and Buck, I just want to say 380 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,560 Speaker 7: thanks for having me on. I haven't been on your 381 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:08,280 Speaker 7: show before. I really appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, this is 382 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 7: I think the most significant election lawsuits filed in probably 383 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 7: a couple of generations, because if we win, not only 384 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:23,600 Speaker 7: will eleven House seats be reallocated from places like California 385 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:28,080 Speaker 7: to places like Missouri, but with those house seats also 386 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 7: go electoral votes. And the other thing that goes is 387 00:20:32,119 --> 00:20:36,520 Speaker 7: any federal assistants because federal assistants, all those dollars that 388 00:20:36,560 --> 00:20:40,479 Speaker 7: flow from the federal government to states is based on 389 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:46,360 Speaker 7: census data, and right now we're counting illegal immigrants in 390 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:50,000 Speaker 7: the census. President Trump tried to put an end to 391 00:20:50,040 --> 00:20:53,440 Speaker 7: that in twenty twenty while he was still in office, 392 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 7: but then when Biden won that election, he reversed it 393 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 7: and counted illegal immigrants in the twenty twenty census, we're 394 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,720 Speaker 7: saying we should go back take them out of that census, 395 00:21:04,760 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 7: and certainly should not count them in the twenty thirty census. 396 00:21:08,560 --> 00:21:13,280 Speaker 5: So what in terms of the statutes, And I appreciate 397 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 5: you being with us here, Attorney General Hanaway, what is 398 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 5: the language that governs here? Who should be counted? I mean, 399 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:23,840 Speaker 5: we need to get in Clay's excited, and I'm asking 400 00:21:23,880 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 5: some pretty nerdy legal questions here. What tells us you know, 401 00:21:28,440 --> 00:21:31,360 Speaker 5: because to me it sounds like, well, if you're counting illegals, 402 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:33,560 Speaker 5: are you also at a place like New York City, 403 00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:35,240 Speaker 5: you're going to count every tourist visa? 404 00:21:35,240 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 2: Are you going to count every like? 405 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:36,439 Speaker 7: What? 406 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:36,919 Speaker 2: Like? 407 00:21:37,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 5: What is the statutory dispute here as it pertains to 408 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,399 Speaker 5: who actually is supposed to get counted? 409 00:21:44,440 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, So it's actually the fourteenth Amendment to the US 410 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,920 Speaker 7: Constitution says that persons shall have the right to vote 411 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,640 Speaker 7: and shall be counted in order to determine how many 412 00:21:53,960 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 7: congressional districts there are. Persons is then defined by later 413 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 7: case law to mean permanent, permanent legal residents of the 414 00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:06,359 Speaker 7: United States, So no one who's here on a temporary 415 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,840 Speaker 7: visa no one who's a traveler, no one here who 416 00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 7: is here illegally. And during Jimmy Carter's administration, he just 417 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 7: unilaterally told the Department of Commerce to start counting those 418 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:23,360 Speaker 7: illegals in the census. Thank goodness. We have a president 419 00:22:23,400 --> 00:22:26,000 Speaker 7: now who wants to reverse that, but we want to 420 00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,919 Speaker 7: make it stick through a court decision because, as we know, 421 00:22:29,880 --> 00:22:32,560 Speaker 7: he won't be president forever, and so we want to 422 00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:33,400 Speaker 7: make this permanent. 423 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,560 Speaker 2: Okay. 424 00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: The biggest challenge, as you know, but I bet most 425 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,959 Speaker 1: of our audience knows, and if they don't, they're going 426 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: to know now, is getting the Supreme Court to take 427 00:22:41,680 --> 00:22:44,639 Speaker 1: a case. Right, They take a tiny percentage of the 428 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,720 Speaker 1: cases that are actually sent to them. A lot of 429 00:22:47,760 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 1: times they take circuit splits, that is when some of 430 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: the different circuits out there render different decisions. You are 431 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:56,879 Speaker 1: filing to try to get this case in front of 432 00:22:56,880 --> 00:23:00,360 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court, How would you assess your chances of 433 00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,240 Speaker 1: getting this case in front of the Supreme Court? And 434 00:23:03,280 --> 00:23:05,960 Speaker 1: what does the law suggest to you they might do 435 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: if you were able to get it to them. 436 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:12,159 Speaker 7: So this is going to be really in the weeds, 437 00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:14,480 Speaker 7: but I'll try and keep it as high level as possible. 438 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:18,440 Speaker 7: When President Trump in twenty twenty said we're not counting 439 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:22,960 Speaker 7: illegals in the census, two state attorney generals, one from 440 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:27,359 Speaker 7: California and another from another liberal state, sued to enjoin 441 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,560 Speaker 7: his action and were successful until it went all the 442 00:23:31,560 --> 00:23:34,480 Speaker 7: way up to the US Supreme Court. While the Court 443 00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 7: didn't take the case, they reversed those injunctions. So we 444 00:23:39,080 --> 00:23:41,359 Speaker 7: don't have a big written opinion on it, but we 445 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,800 Speaker 7: do have an indication from the Court that they don't 446 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 7: believe that the states should be able to enjoin a 447 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:54,359 Speaker 7: president who doesn't want to count illegals as a census. 448 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:57,040 Speaker 7: So that's our best indication of how the modern court 449 00:23:57,080 --> 00:24:01,480 Speaker 7: will go. The older court decisions are very clear that 450 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 7: only permanent legal residents of the United States should be counted. 451 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: What's the time frame in your mind? Obviously, the twenty 452 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:14,360 Speaker 1: thirty census is the next time that this will be 453 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:18,199 Speaker 1: truly out there. But simultaneously, the Supreme Court, and this 454 00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 1: also goes into a little bit of the weeds, is 455 00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:24,919 Speaker 1: expected to give a ruling on majority minority districts and 456 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,880 Speaker 1: whether they are able to exist. That could be very 457 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:32,400 Speaker 1: impactful in terms of the mid terms coming up. What's 458 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 1: the time frame in your mind of this analysis, particularly 459 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,639 Speaker 1: when it comes to who should be counted for purposes 460 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: of the census. 461 00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:44,040 Speaker 7: Well, we have actually asked as one of the things 462 00:24:44,040 --> 00:24:48,679 Speaker 7: we're asking for as relief, that the twenty twenty twenty 463 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 7: census be recalculated to exclude illegal immigrants, which if we 464 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 7: could get it on a very expedited track, would mean 465 00:24:56,359 --> 00:25:00,359 Speaker 7: it would have an effect in this election cycle. I 466 00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 7: think that's overly optimistic. I think it's more realistic that 467 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,399 Speaker 7: this case will get to the court in time for 468 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:11,960 Speaker 7: the twenty twenty eight elections. We've actually filed the front 469 00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 7: of the court brief and in the Voting Rights Act 470 00:25:15,520 --> 00:25:19,560 Speaker 7: case that you just referred to for majority minority districts, 471 00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 7: I'm very optimistic that the Court's going to decide that 472 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:28,240 Speaker 7: case the right way, which should be helpful in redistricting 473 00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:33,440 Speaker 7: some of these congressional districts that were jerrymandered for the 474 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 7: sole purpose of making sure that they were majority minority districts. 475 00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:42,679 Speaker 5: And miss Attorney General, what do you think about just 476 00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:44,679 Speaker 5: switching gears a little bit, but staying within the Supreme 477 00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:48,200 Speaker 5: Court and important cases that are coming up here, the birthright, 478 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 5: citizenship issue. I just was wondering if you could speak 479 00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,000 Speaker 5: to that. I'm not sure if you filled a file 480 00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:55,400 Speaker 5: and amicus brief on this or how involved you've been 481 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:59,960 Speaker 5: as AG, but what is your view as it pertains 482 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 5: to the birthright citizenship issue. 483 00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:03,600 Speaker 2: You know, the. 484 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:12,040 Speaker 7: History, case, law, and constitution are a little bit less 485 00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:16,200 Speaker 7: clear on this issue. I don't have a very strong 486 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 7: sense of how that case is going to come out. Obviously, 487 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 7: it's a critically important case to the extent that we 488 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 7: have people who are coming illegally into the country for 489 00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:31,399 Speaker 7: the sole purpose of giving birth and creating citizenship. It 490 00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:34,720 Speaker 7: is a very serious issue that I hope the Court 491 00:26:34,920 --> 00:26:37,160 Speaker 7: is going to take up and resolve once and for all. 492 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: These are all super important cases, and I think a 493 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: lot of people aren't in the weeds and understanding exactly 494 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,520 Speaker 1: how this is going to play out. But you mentioned it, 495 00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,280 Speaker 1: if you go back to twenty twenty, this would be 496 00:26:53,760 --> 00:26:57,359 Speaker 1: utterly important, not only for the twenty twenty six elections, 497 00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: but if you could get a readdress of the twenty 498 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: twenty s census with only counting citizens, then the twenty 499 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 1: twenty eight electoral college map would potentially change this year. 500 00:27:09,119 --> 00:27:12,160 Speaker 1: You think is optimistic, but it wouldn't be too optimistic 501 00:27:12,240 --> 00:27:14,600 Speaker 1: to think that if you won, we could have a 502 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:17,560 Speaker 1: different map in twenty twenty eight than what we had 503 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four. 504 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:21,879 Speaker 7: That's exactly right. And part of the reason we wanted 505 00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:25,359 Speaker 7: to take the lead on this case is that we 506 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 7: think that the judges in the Eastern District of Missouri 507 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:34,280 Speaker 7: right now are really strict constitutionalists, originalists who are going 508 00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,679 Speaker 7: to enforce the US Constitution, and it might be the 509 00:27:37,680 --> 00:27:40,120 Speaker 7: best venue in the country for this case right now. 510 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:45,320 Speaker 1: This is outstanding stuff. We appreciate you reaching out, coming 511 00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: on and telling us this story. Please keep us updated 512 00:27:48,440 --> 00:27:50,760 Speaker 1: when or if you are able to get this case 513 00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,880 Speaker 1: to the Supreme Court, and we're wishing you the best 514 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: of luck. 515 00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,400 Speaker 7: Thanks so much, have a great weekend. Really appreciate the time. 516 00:27:57,600 --> 00:28:02,200 Speaker 1: That is Missouri Attorney General Catherine in Hannaway laying out. Look, 517 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,480 Speaker 1: that's you might you make it basically legal. Credit for 518 00:28:05,640 --> 00:28:08,679 Speaker 1: the details there, but it is very important, very. 519 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:13,119 Speaker 5: Very important, hugely consequential decisions and cases that she was 520 00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 5: laying out. But also you saying her name made me 521 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,160 Speaker 5: think of another Catherine, Catherine O'Hara. 522 00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:22,200 Speaker 2: Did you see this? Yeah, I just saw this news. 523 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: Just a lot of people are not going to know 524 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:26,960 Speaker 1: Catherine O'Hara's name necessarily, but they're all going to have 525 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:27,520 Speaker 1: seen her. 526 00:28:27,680 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 5: Kevin mcallisher's mom from the movie Home Alone. She unfortunately 527 00:28:33,359 --> 00:28:39,280 Speaker 5: just passed. She was actually a great comedic actress. I 528 00:28:39,320 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 5: would argue she's in so many she's fabulous in a 529 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:46,720 Speaker 5: lot of movies. Really really talented. Kind of I would argue, underrated, 530 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,960 Speaker 5: although everyone will know her as Kevin mccalisher's mom from 531 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 5: the Home Alone movies. 532 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: And Home Alone is one of those movies that if 533 00:28:55,160 --> 00:28:57,959 Speaker 1: you have kids, buck your as your son gets older. 534 00:28:58,600 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 1: One of the best things that I know a lot 535 00:28:59,960 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: of parents out there know exactly what I'm talking about, 536 00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 1: is being able to sit down with your kids and 537 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 1: watch these nineteen eighties era movies that many of us 538 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,760 Speaker 1: grew up watching. I think Home Alone came out in 539 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: like nineteen ninety ish something like that. It is it 540 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: holds up so well. It is still your young kids 541 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: today will sit and watch Home Alone, and they will 542 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:21,200 Speaker 1: like it as much as you did when you were 543 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: a kid, or as much as you did when you 544 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: were a parent and you. 545 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:24,840 Speaker 2: Took him to see it. 546 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:30,120 Speaker 1: It is an iconic holiday classic that she did great work. 547 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 5: In, and producer Greg is asking, how does Catherine O'Hara 548 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 5: compare to Natalie Portman? Doesn't compare because Catherine O'Hara actually 549 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,720 Speaker 5: had talent as an actress and as a comedian, whereas 550 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,720 Speaker 5: Natalie Portman was just advanced for no apparent reason, and 551 00:29:44,800 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 5: we're all supposed to think she's so beautiful and so great. 552 00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:49,400 Speaker 2: Just saying, I'm just here speaking truth. 553 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: Our friend Alexi Lawless texted me and he was like, 554 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: you are one hundred percent right about Natalie Portman. 555 00:29:55,440 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: So I'm comfortable you see him. We're gonna have this guy. Guys, 556 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 2: you're having a broach. 557 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, you might have to you might 558 00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,880 Speaker 1: have to cancel the the meeting coming up this weekend 559 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:08,600 Speaker 1: in Miami because Alexi's got the right taste here. 560 00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 2: I don't know what happened. 561 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,320 Speaker 5: It used to be like the Maxim Hot one hundred, 562 00:30:12,360 --> 00:30:13,880 Speaker 5: you know, like we used to we used to live 563 00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:14,400 Speaker 5: in a country. 564 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 2: We knew who the hot chicks were. 565 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:18,680 Speaker 5: And now you guys have just been We've been fed 566 00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 5: slop nonsense. 567 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 1: Speaking of slop and nonsense, I was gonna have some 568 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: fun with this, Twin Peaks has joined Hooters. We're going 569 00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:31,080 Speaker 1: to a break here, but the restaurants are under siege. Buck, 570 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: I thought this was still America. 571 00:30:34,160 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 2: We come back. We'll take some of your calls. 572 00:30:35,840 --> 00:30:38,240 Speaker 1: We'll continue to follow all these stories, and our friend 573 00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 1: Julie Kelly's gonna join us at the top of the 574 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 1: next hour to talk about this Don Lemon arrest in 575 00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: the context of jan six. A lot of legal related 576 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:49,280 Speaker 1: details today in the program. A lot of you are 577 00:30:49,280 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 1: going to be able to say you've got law degrees 578 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 1: after today's program if you're paying close attention. 579 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:56,640 Speaker 2: But I want to tell you we got super Bowl 580 00:30:56,680 --> 00:30:57,440 Speaker 2: coming up next week. 581 00:30:57,920 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in California next week, Commy Land in 582 00:31:02,040 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: both LA and San Francisco, and I'm gonna be giving 583 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,160 Speaker 1: you a pick for prize picks. Over one hundred million 584 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,240 Speaker 1: people are going to watch the super Bowl next week. 585 00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: A lot of you are going to play games, the 586 00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:15,040 Speaker 1: Square game, what's the score gonna end up? 587 00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,120 Speaker 2: A lot of you will be making bets on the game. 588 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:22,080 Speaker 1: I think nearly two billion dollars forecasts to be bet 589 00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,880 Speaker 1: on the outcome of the super Bowl. You can play 590 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 1: along and have some fun All you have to do 591 00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: is pick more or less when it comes to overall 592 00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:35,479 Speaker 1: performances out there in price picks at pricepicks dot com, 593 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 1: all fifty states, California where I'm traveling to, Texas, where 594 00:31:39,880 --> 00:31:42,080 Speaker 1: we're going to be going to in a few weeks, 595 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:47,479 Speaker 1: Florida where Buck is, Georgia, everywhere, all fifty states. If 596 00:31:47,520 --> 00:31:51,160 Speaker 1: you're feeling left out, you can play along Alabama, prize 597 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 1: picks dot com, Code Clay, that's price picks dot com, 598 00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,040 Speaker 1: Code Clay. You can get hooked up right now with 599 00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: a phenomenal offer. You play five dollars, you get back 600 00:32:00,560 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 1: fifty dollars. All you have to do is pick more 601 00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,600 Speaker 1: or less two or more players. I'll give you a pick, 602 00:32:05,720 --> 00:32:08,240 Speaker 1: maybe multiple picks for the super Bowl, and all of 603 00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,719 Speaker 1: you can play along and hopefully we will win like 604 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:14,200 Speaker 1: we won last weekend in the NFC Championship game. That 605 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:18,280 Speaker 1: is pricepicks dot com, Code Clay, prizepicks dot com, Code 606 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:21,800 Speaker 1: c l A y Stories. 607 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 6: Are freedom stories of America, inspirational stories that you unite 608 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 6: us all each day, spend time with Clay and Buck. 609 00:32:30,120 --> 00:32:33,440 Speaker 6: Find them on the free iHeartRadio app or wherever you 610 00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:34,720 Speaker 6: get your podcasts. 611 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 2: Welcome back into clay En Buck. 612 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:39,000 Speaker 5: I'm gonna tell you all something right now, our wonderful 613 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 5: radio affiliates all across the country, we love you. We 614 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:44,960 Speaker 5: also love being able to show you the babies though, 615 00:32:45,400 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 5: and that's why YouTube is important. Go to YouTube dot 616 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 5: com slash Clay and Buck because you will see double 617 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:54,440 Speaker 5: I'm sorry, folks, double baby right now on the Clay N. 618 00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:55,000 Speaker 2: Buck Show. 619 00:32:55,040 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 5: We have two How old is How old is that? 620 00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:00,240 Speaker 5: That's not James. James is like driving now which one 621 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:00,880 Speaker 5: is this one? 622 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,760 Speaker 1: This is Annie who is I think only four months 623 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: old right now. She's just four months old. So Katie, 624 00:33:08,880 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 1: who is my awesome assistant and has been with us 625 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 1: now for eleven years, she has two babies, well one 626 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: two and a half year old he probably wouldn't like 627 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 1: to be called a baby, and then we've got a 628 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:25,320 Speaker 1: four month old and she's in the studio most days. Unfortunately, Buck, 629 00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:28,000 Speaker 1: her family is among the many families out there that 630 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: have been dealing with the power being out in Nashville, 631 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: just a total failure by the Nashville Electric Service, and 632 00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: so they've been running around like a lot of families 633 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:39,479 Speaker 1: are out there. But she is in studio today so 634 00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:42,440 Speaker 1: you have the first ever double Baby, which is a 635 00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: shameless promo for the YouTube channel. 636 00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 5: And we will have heard of Double Rainbow from online fame. 637 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,320 Speaker 5: This is double Baby even better than double Rainbow. 638 00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 2: So there you go. Here look at it. 639 00:33:57,120 --> 00:33:59,000 Speaker 5: He goes right for the mic every time. I'm just 640 00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:02,320 Speaker 5: telling you, he's like, it's my mic. Now wow, whoa. 641 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 5: Now he's saying, mommy, uh, we're gonna do important political 642 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,040 Speaker 5: analysis here. See he grabs daddy's beard though the beard 643 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:11,400 Speaker 5: Clay as you realize, as you know, is a handle 644 00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,280 Speaker 5: actually like o yere you get. 645 00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: No, it's it's totally a handle for everybody out there. 646 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: And we may have a crying baby coming here in 647 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:20,880 Speaker 1: just a second. 648 00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:23,719 Speaker 5: We got and by the way, the dog now has 649 00:34:23,719 --> 00:34:25,040 Speaker 5: come in the room too. I'm not gonna hold the 650 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 5: dog up here. Oh maybe I will actually here it's a. 651 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 2: Special Friday, all right, we had oh now we got dogs. 652 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,400 Speaker 2: This is just shameless YouTube. 653 00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,640 Speaker 1: This is farming YouTube for farming to do everything we 654 00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:43,480 Speaker 1: can to get to get subscribers, babies, dogs, whatever else 655 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:44,000 Speaker 1: is out there. 656 00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:46,040 Speaker 2: We'll do well, you know what I mean. You know, 657 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:48,960 Speaker 2: if Sidneys, if Sidney Sweeney's gonna be selling lingerie. 658 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:51,560 Speaker 5: We're gonna use babies and puppies to sell YouTube, you 659 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,080 Speaker 5: know what I'm saying, Like, we gotta do what we 660 00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 5: gotta do. 661 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: Over here, I think she's got better assets than us. 662 00:34:57,600 --> 00:35:00,800 Speaker 1: Eight hunder and two eight two two eight eight. We 663 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:02,479 Speaker 1: got a bunch of people who want to talk back. 664 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:03,879 Speaker 2: Uh. 665 00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 1: Podcast listener Jason cut b a lot of you weighing 666 00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 1: in on a variety. 667 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,320 Speaker 2: Of different topics. Here's Jason. 668 00:35:11,719 --> 00:35:15,240 Speaker 8: This conversation about Nalie Portman reminds me of an episode 669 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 8: of the Office where they're debating that Hillary Swink was 670 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 8: hot or not. And Clay is correct, you did take 671 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 8: a two by forward to Nellie Portman. We might as 672 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:28,480 Speaker 8: well start calling you a Hacksaw buck Sexton after the 673 00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 8: great wrestler heck Saw Jim Duggan Hack. 674 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,920 Speaker 5: I love hack Saw. I love Hacksaw Jim Duggan. I 675 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:38,840 Speaker 5: was like a super Hacksaw fan in the day. Also, 676 00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,840 Speaker 5: it's Hillary Swank from that episode of the Office that 677 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:47,160 Speaker 5: they were arguing about, and Kevin was right, mid Mid. 678 00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 1: I actually agree that Hillary Swank's not that hot. By 679 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,520 Speaker 1: the way, podcast listener Joe from Kansas, we agree on that. 680 00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:55,480 Speaker 2: Buck. You confuse him cut A. 681 00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 9: You know, there are days that I think Bunk is 682 00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:03,399 Speaker 9: so manly and he's so right and all these things. 683 00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,239 Speaker 9: He's talking about his guns, he's doing the training, and 684 00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 9: he brings up stuff like the statue ice cream, and 685 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 9: he tells me about Natalie Portman. 686 00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:11,320 Speaker 2: Isn't that pretty? 687 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,080 Speaker 9: I just don't know what to do with this on 688 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 9: a day after he didn't know who past summerle is. 689 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 5: My god. 690 00:36:17,719 --> 00:36:19,680 Speaker 9: I'm glad you too have each other, and Clay, I'm 691 00:36:19,680 --> 00:36:21,240 Speaker 9: glad you're there for him. 692 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 5: Look, just to be clear, I got to keep you 693 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 5: on your toes, all right. I can't just be all 694 00:36:26,280 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 5: one way or all the other. You gotta listen, and 695 00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 5: every day you never this is one thing. You never 696 00:36:30,840 --> 00:36:32,479 Speaker 5: know what you're gonna get on the Clay and Buck Show. 697 00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 5: Unlike some other big shows on YouTube, we don't ever 698 00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 5: read off a prompter and pretend we're just monologuing. Keep 699 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 5: an eye out for that one. Everybody more common than 700 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:42,440 Speaker 5: you think. 701 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,200 Speaker 1: It is staggering to me how many people have teleprompters. 702 00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:48,680 Speaker 1: I've got a yellow legal pad for better or worse. 703 00:36:48,719 --> 00:36:50,880 Speaker 1: That's the whole notes. We'll be back final hour of 704 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: the week next