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Speaker 1: On today's episode the Command Center Podcast, we're talking the

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Speaker 1: art of defense and Joe Whippins is the painter.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: We talked about the next evolution of this defense set

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty five, how do we get to be

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Speaker 1: a top tag group and how these new additions are

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Speaker 1: going to help us get there? And I am dreaming

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Speaker 1: of Dan Quinn. It all starts right now, Nightmares. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to thecmand Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here with Fred

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Speaker 1: Smoot and Santana Mos.

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Speaker 2: Yeh, guys, how's father said? It was great? Man?

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Speaker 3: You know what, I did my studies on Father's Day

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Speaker 3: and it turns out, Logan, that they spin the public

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Speaker 3: spins ten billion more dollars on Mother's Day compared to

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Speaker 3: Father's Day. How do you feel as a father knowing

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Speaker 3: that we are short changed in debt?

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Speaker 2: And rich? Oh?

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Speaker 1: I think you know, when it comes to mothers and fathers,

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Speaker 1: mothers carry a lot of that burden, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. Early on, like, you know, they carry the

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Speaker 1: baby and a lot of early stuff, changing diapers early.

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Speaker 1: Not that I and changing diapers or anything like that,

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Speaker 1: but uh, they're probably about ten times more important.

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Speaker 2: It don't make us ten times less important.

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Speaker 4: I just think about it though, as a father, as

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Speaker 4: a dude, period, do you care someone buy you something?

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Speaker 2: Mothers do? Women do?

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Speaker 3: They?

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Speaker 4: They love gifts, they loved to be you know, thought

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Speaker 4: about so regardless of what it is, I just feel like,

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Speaker 4: of course they're going to spend more money on mothers

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Speaker 4: because women love nice things.

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Speaker 2: They you know, we're buying women nice things daily. You know.

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Speaker 4: A father a guy, I don't want anything. You know,

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Speaker 4: I can get it myself.

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Speaker 2: So what would you walk for? Father? No? No, he can

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Speaker 2: think about it. Think about it.

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Speaker 3: We take the mother on Mother's Day to a steak house,

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Speaker 3: all right, Max strod.

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Speaker 2: Prime, but the fine oodner. They drop us off of

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Speaker 2: uncooked State. They just did you cook? Did you cook?

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Speaker 2: I did not cook.

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Speaker 3: My kids took me to that great French restaurant, waff

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Speaker 3: ale House. All right this my kids, no, daddy, simple

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Speaker 3: fail waff A House.

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Speaker 2: I love waffle House.

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Speaker 3: That's one of my things. So my kids, no long

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Speaker 3: we take dat to the waffle house. He pretty much good.

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Speaker 2: You pay for They took me to waffle House. Paid

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Speaker 2: for it with my money. But it was all good.

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Speaker 2: And we got to compete. My kids know, I like

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Speaker 2: to compete, right or something? Coin Hole? We played coin hole,

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Speaker 2: which I want? We bowl? We stanos one and we

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Speaker 2: enjoyed our said can't help himself. Man, you always got

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Speaker 2: to you always got to be ahead of the curve.

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Speaker 1: I love it, man, I love it. Oh, let's check

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Speaker 1: it in about Father's Day. Always going to get you

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Speaker 1: guys opinion, what you guys are up to. Now, let's

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Speaker 1: get our kind of admin stuff done. Just remember we

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Speaker 1: got that mega mail bag coming up. Man has to

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Speaker 1: answer questions from you. Please make sure you leave those

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Speaker 1: questions at that hawk outside at gmail dot com. We

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Speaker 1: want to make sure we get to all of them. Uh,

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Speaker 1: pretty sure. Jason's going through all that stuff and we're

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Speaker 1: gonna have a great show when that comes wrong. But

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Speaker 1: make sure that hawk outside at gmail dot com. Next

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Speaker 1: thing up is hail Tails podcasts coming out soon. And

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Speaker 1: great show.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of this team, if you're a

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Speaker 1: fan of the history of this team, make sure you

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Speaker 1: check it out. It's got the last game at RFK

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Speaker 1: talks about the history of that. He's got the body

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Speaker 1: Back Game.

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Speaker 2: The Bodybag Game. Miss played quarterback that game, did it really? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that's what he played.

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Speaker 3: That was the body Back Game because like everybody got

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Speaker 3: taken out, we had to put a running back at quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Luckily he was an ex quarterback. They played running back. Dude.

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Speaker 1: The fact that he played quarterback at any point in

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Speaker 1: his life, he is so anti quarterback, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Like this, laugh at him calling the hood.

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Speaker 1: If you hang out with d Missed for like five seconds,

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Speaker 1: like you're like, no way is he a quarterback.

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Speaker 2: He's just so tough. He's so great. Imagine him getting

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Speaker 3: Knee in the huddle and looking at you log and

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Speaker 3: be like you past, dude, he would fight you.

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Speaker 2: Just thinking about what would you do when you came

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Speaker 2: back to the huddle. You drop a b bitch Bay No.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, But the body Back Game. They got the Vince

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Speaker 1: Lombardi era, They got the Monday Night Miracle. Apparently, they

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Speaker 1: got a bunch of people interviewed for that Rye Bock.

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Speaker 1: They got the kicker interviewed. So if you're a fan

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Speaker 1: of the history of this team, of the Big Moments.

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Speaker 2: That's a great show.

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be in the podcast podcast network makes you

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Speaker 1: to this you should be.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And then just a reminder this is important. Now, make

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Speaker 1: sure if you are going, we know you're gonna buy tickets.

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Speaker 1: It really helps us out. So please, if you want

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Speaker 1: And we got RFK stadium news, right, we're excited about that.

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Speaker 1: show your support. That's the big one, right.

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Speaker 2: Show your support.

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Speaker 3: Damn home, bring damn there go fred I like it,

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Speaker 3: Bring damn home, due, that's what we need.

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Speaker 2: That was what I'm saying.

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Speaker 1: But if you want it, which we know you want it,

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Speaker 2: So those are the big four things. Great job by you.

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Speaker 1: That's all the housekeeping. So now we can get into.

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Speaker 2: The football art.

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Speaker 1: It's talking football, but specifically defense, the art of the defense. Right,

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Speaker 1: and so I think you know, we're kind of in

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Speaker 1: training camp. It's a very exciting time, kind of look

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Speaker 1: back at last year, things that they did well, things

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Speaker 1: and the viewers if you're watching on YouTube Joe A

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Speaker 1: Junior and his scheme, what type of scheme, what type

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Speaker 1: to me, when I watch him on film, they are

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Speaker 1: If they are in too high safety, usually they're rotating

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Speaker 1: play two, they can play three, they can play quarters.

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Speaker 3: meaning they protect the corners. It's a caller friendly defense

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Speaker 3: that puts more pressure on the interior to make plays

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Speaker 2: And in this defense, when I.

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Speaker 3: Say corner friendly, they want the corners to make plays.

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Speaker 3: But the key to this defense is the middle linebacker.

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Speaker 3: Do you think they did that because Bobby's here? Do

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Speaker 1: Because it makes sense to me, like yeah, Like why

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Speaker 4: So being that you're a defensive guy, and I love

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Speaker 4: you look at the difference from how the Cowboys played

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Speaker 4: it two years ago with the same staff, what's different

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Speaker 4: because we have that middle linebacker?

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Speaker 3: and we're bigger interior than they were. That's why they

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Speaker 3: If you look at it, when they was there, everybody

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Speaker 2: It was like the SA gap. Maybe it's going as

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Speaker 2: for those who know the.

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Speaker 4: Reason why, I asked that question too, because I feel

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Speaker 4: like we both had the same handicap. You know, we

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Speaker 4: both had a problem with stopping the run. You see

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Speaker 4: what I'm saying, So what what makes us Because it's

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Speaker 4: a light of box. It's only a light of box.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's just shift it into neutral for a second.

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Speaker 1: So when we say box esically people that you've designated

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Speaker 1: to stop the run stop the run, right, So like you,

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Speaker 1: people throw that term around all the time. So usually

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Speaker 1: you've got you got six blockers, you've got seven defenders.

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Speaker 2: Yes, now modern defense, we have six defense. Six on

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Speaker 2: six is even.

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Speaker 1: It's even, right, So you got to play like a

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Speaker 1: gap in a half because everyone's got to beat a

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Speaker 1: coverage focused, right, And so it's interesting to you ask

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Speaker 3: Yeah, think about this defense. I want you to think about.

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Speaker 2: I say, go back to green with Joe jun reserve.

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Speaker 3: Yes, when you go back to Green Bay, this defense

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Speaker 3: We're built more for the past than we are to run.

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Speaker 2: Yes, essentially is what you're trying to do.

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Speaker 3: If I get penetration, like it's a different between me

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Speaker 4: But when you look at a team like the Giants,

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Speaker 2: For a bounce, though, do you want to? I want

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Speaker 3: Like, if I can get him to bounce, he going laterally,

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Speaker 4: But I just you know the reason why I asked that,

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Speaker 2: To me, I think that's hard, that's harder for you

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Speaker 1: like if they're a nickel, right, it gives you some

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Speaker 3: But they had Michael Bennett who was excellent in the run.

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Speaker 1: No, absolutely, And so I think that's in terms of

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Speaker 2: And when you're playing an RPO, you got to do

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Speaker 3: So I think that's so you are you really to

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Speaker 2: He's not like the top past edge rushers.

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Speaker 3: No super Bowl, no super Bowl, no playoffs, no playoffs,

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Speaker 2: TJ. You got a super Bowl? No? All right?

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Speaker 1: But if you put both, if you put Chris Jones,

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Speaker 2: Let's go through the.

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Speaker 3: Top Finli he got the most playoff wins.

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Speaker 2: I hear an argument, but it's just not those guys

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Speaker 4: you got to get through it. See, that argument makes

440
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Speaker 4: more sense to me. That argument makes more sense because

441
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Speaker 4: it's like, yes, I do think interior pass rush is

442
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Speaker 4: valuable because of that reason, not because they're winning super Bowls.

443
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Speaker 3: No, no, I if you do the numbers, crush these numbers.

444
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Speaker 2: Now, I know your daddy is asking me, and your

445
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Speaker 2: daddy got more company than you and your dad. Check

446
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Speaker 2: this out. All I'm telling you, look at.

447
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Speaker 3: The numbers of the top five d tackles and look

448
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Speaker 3: at the numbers of the top five Edge Russian. You

449
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Speaker 3: tell me who's affecting the game. The interior fixed the

450
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Speaker 3: run game, It affixed the past game. It's three downs

451
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Speaker 3: of affecting it. Edge Russe is primarily on passing downs. Sure,

452
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Speaker 3: I'm talking about somebody to fick, first, shaken.

453
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Speaker 2: And third I got you. I mean, they do effect

454
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Speaker 2: one thing about you. We can't argue with you, so.

455
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Speaker 1: You argue.

456
00:19:14,960 --> 00:19:17,639
Speaker 3: I just get tired of turning on my radio and

457
00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:19,440
Speaker 3: all I hear is people when we're gonna.

458
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Speaker 2: Get an aedge rushing, we're gonna get age.

459
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Speaker 4: When I'm like, but that's just like when when you

460
00:19:22,840 --> 00:19:25,480
Speaker 4: got guys, that's saying you need a you need some receivers.

461
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Speaker 4: When you have a great quarterback, you don't need great receivers.

462
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Speaker 4: You need capable you know you guys you can go

463
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Speaker 4: out and get the ball to it. And that goes

464
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Speaker 4: back to your argument as when we're gonna get ass

465
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Speaker 4: rushers when you have a corp of guys, meaning that

466
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Speaker 4: you have a nice uh front front seven, you have

467
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Speaker 4: guys in the interior you have capable guys on the

468
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Speaker 4: outside together collectively they make up for just having one

469
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Speaker 4: guy more special guys, So how to look at it?

470
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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I'm really glad you brought up the interior

471
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Speaker 1: because I do think one of the things about this

472
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Speaker 1: defense going back to Dallas specifically, is they were always

473
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Speaker 1: a little bit soft, little bit light in the interior. Yeah,

474
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Speaker 1: and I think they've made taking really good steps here, Kim.

475
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Speaker 4: It's a good step. So tell me this though, tell

476
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Speaker 4: me this. You said it, so I have to ask

477
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Speaker 4: this question. Do you think we was light or soft

478
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Speaker 4: last year?

479
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Speaker 2: Because I feel like we had a great interior years before.

480
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Speaker 3: Probably, Well, I told you this defense is catered for

481
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Speaker 3: the edges and when you do this, so.

482
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Speaker 4: It took a lot off of the guys and it

483
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Speaker 4: put a lot on the line and put more on

484
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Speaker 4: them because they too gaping got you and.

485
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Speaker 3: The best time, if you really want to defensive, interior

486
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Speaker 3: got to dominate, let him one gap, let him find

487
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Speaker 3: out way he goes and get there.

488
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Speaker 4: So basically this defense took a lot from those guys

489
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Speaker 4: in the inside. X more of them who who who

490
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Speaker 4: excelled the last previous years, but x more came the

491
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Speaker 4: sacks and stuff like that, but they couldn't hold up

492
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Speaker 4: when when I guess the pressure was not on them

493
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Speaker 4: to kind of, you know, keep things well.

494
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Speaker 2: I think it's just more or less, uh, who you

495
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Speaker 2: gonna care for on your defense?

496
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Speaker 3: Like most of the defense I played for they were like, hey,

497
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Speaker 3: go play man and man, we're gonna we're gonna draw

498
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Speaker 3: everything for the inside guy. Like this is more of

499
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Speaker 3: we're gonna take care of the outside guys. Y'all need

500
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Speaker 3: to y'all need to hold well.

501
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Speaker 1: I think it goes also again like this is a

502
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Speaker 1: tomato tomato type of thing or chicken and egg Like

503
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Speaker 1: which comes first is like when you play lighter boxes,

504
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Speaker 1: when you emphasize defending the pass more. One of the

505
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Speaker 1: things is like double teams sit longer, right, because I'm

506
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Speaker 1: not I don't have to worry about anybody way back

507
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Speaker 1: to this guy, right, I can really sick on this.

508
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Speaker 1: So you have to get guys. In my opinion, watching

509
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Speaker 1: last year, like watching gers On, watching Deron, who I

510
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Speaker 1: think is a really good run player. Watching you know,

511
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Speaker 1: insert your other player that played here, is like, I

512
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Speaker 1: don't care how good you are if I get four

513
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Speaker 1: hands on you. These offensive linemen are too good, too good, right,

514
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Speaker 1: so you need to get and find guys. And I

515
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Speaker 1: think you see a different team's prioritize and like put

516
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Speaker 1: a forward for example, he's a defensive tack for the Chargers,

517
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Speaker 1: just got paid like ten million dollars a year. He's

518
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Speaker 1: a run stopping tackle because there is value to it

519
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Speaker 1: on first second down. So going out and find a

520
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Speaker 1: guy like Goldman, I think is a really good example.

521
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Speaker 1: Like when you watch him, he knows how to play

522
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Speaker 1: off double teams.

523
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Speaker 2: You know he will split.

524
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Speaker 1: Them in a way that is unique to him, right,

525
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Speaker 1: And so I think when you look at if you

526
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Speaker 1: can get a guy to play that shade, so like

527
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Speaker 1: you're in double team land all the time, a three

528
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Speaker 1: technique can get away with it a little bit, but

529
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Speaker 1: you can get a guy in there that's good at

530
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Speaker 1: that on first second down. He's only gonna play twenty

531
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Speaker 1: plays a game. Fifteen plays a game like that adds

532
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Speaker 1: a lot of value because it cleans it up for Bobby.

533
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Speaker 1: Because so when you watch Bobby, when you watch Frank

534
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Speaker 1: either not like I think when you think back to

535
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Speaker 1: like Ron, when you talk about linebackers, like you know,

536
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Speaker 1: why are John and Doron not playing well, it's because

537
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Speaker 1: the linebackers aren't coming downhill this defense. We're not coming downhill.

538
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Speaker 1: We're not saving you because to you. Because Bobby's got

539
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Speaker 1: to make the play outside the hash. He's got to

540
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Speaker 1: make the play in the B gap and the sea gap.

541
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Speaker 2: He's got it.

542
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Speaker 1: It's not it's not he it's it's not a one

543
00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,359
Speaker 1: gap defense, right because of this this light box scenario. Right,

544
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Speaker 1: So if you can get a guy in there that's

545
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Speaker 1: good at that, then you can alleviate some of the

546
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Speaker 1: pressure on drawn. He can just play the three technique, yes,

547
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Speaker 1: or Jerson can play the three techniques, can look for

548
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:48,120
Speaker 1: three technique, right, And so then you can get into

549
00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: these passing downs. And now you've got actual past Russ

550
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Speaker 1: juice on the interior, like we're talking about, Like I

551
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Speaker 1: can't wait to watch darn like be the guy and

552
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Speaker 1: rush the passers on. When you watch him from college,

553
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Speaker 1: he got juice. When you watch kiml Us cut ups, Yeah, dude,

554
00:23:02,359 --> 00:23:04,960
Speaker 1: there's sometimes it looks like a runaway freight train. So

555
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Speaker 1: I think the whole defense perspective now is like so

556
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Speaker 1: last year, for example, they were ninth in terms of

557
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Speaker 1: the run places they saw.

558
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Speaker 2: That's a pretty high percentage. Right.

559
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Speaker 1: They were twenty fourth in terms of passes. That's because

560
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Speaker 1: they're not going to stopping the run. So once we

561
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Speaker 1: can stop the run, force them to pay. Put the

562
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Speaker 1: fence up right with these bigger edged players, these better

563
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Speaker 1: guys than the interiers up. Let Bobby do his thing. Now,

564
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you got to Now you a

565
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Speaker 1: one trick pony. You see what I'm saying. Like we've

566
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Speaker 1: changed the parameters here, we're still We're still we wore

567
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Speaker 1: if we wants to.

568
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Speaker 2: We went got.

569
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Speaker 3: Bigger to winning first down. We went got bigger in

570
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Speaker 3: the trenches to wien first down. If you wien first down,

571
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Speaker 3: sickon and third down becomes how should I call it?

572
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Speaker 2: Very easy for us if I get you behind the

573
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Speaker 2: change and sick in.

574
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Speaker 3: Any living Now you'll pass the team, your passing team.

575
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Speaker 3: And now I know you a passing team. And now

576
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Speaker 3: we're gonna do what we do well, we do best,

577
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Speaker 3: and it's cover.

578
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And they're third in the NFL.

579
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Speaker 1: And pass defense last year with one hundred and eighty

580
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Speaker 1: nine point five yard is awesome.

581
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Speaker 2: Because nobody had to They ain't even have to.

582
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Speaker 1: Throw correct So now we're going to force that. But

583
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Speaker 1: now we got you know, Trey Mos, we got Mike Harris. Still,

584
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Speaker 1: we've got Marshall Lattimore, we got Will Harris, we got

585
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Speaker 1: Kawon Martin in the back end. And I think this

586
00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,720
Speaker 1: is another thing where you see a vision I love.

587
00:24:15,840 --> 00:24:17,520
Speaker 1: Like we've talked about this all the time. Ten, it's

588
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Speaker 1: like when the GM has a vision for the offense

589
00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,359
Speaker 1: and the defense. Like everybody's like, we were bad in this.

590
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Speaker 1: We're going to get better. We're going to get you

591
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Speaker 1: to second and ten and we're going to dare you

592
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Speaker 1: to throw the football because we got a bunch of

593
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Speaker 1: dudes who they played it.

594
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Speaker 2: You can play man and then yes.

595
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Speaker 1: Tanna right, how many times we talk about that, dude

596
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Speaker 1: aren't going to be lost playing the football.

597
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Speaker 2: Now Playton football.

598
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Speaker 3: But the reason we need to win first down is

599
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Speaker 3: because if you see a quarterback like Jedi five standing

600
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Speaker 3: on the other sideline, I'm going to run the ball

601
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Speaker 3: because now it defensively keeps him opening when they say.

602
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Speaker 2: It no more. We're gonna win first down and we're gonna.

603
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Speaker 3: Force shoot the pays the ball and put the balls

604
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Speaker 3: in harm's way so we can get five back on

605
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Speaker 3: the field.

606
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Speaker 2: That's what they did with the guys they went got

607
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Speaker 2: in the off season.

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Speaker 1: It's just like Fred, you said this, and I experienced

609
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Speaker 1: this when I was in Atlanta, Like the defense was

610
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Speaker 1: built to play with the lead. Yes, and you then

611
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Speaker 1: you hurt yourself on first second down a little bit, right,

612
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Speaker 1: because unless the game script starts flipping where it's like

613
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Speaker 1: two minute situations, end of games scenario's second half where

614
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Speaker 1: you're down, we got to throw the ball time you're

615
00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,560
Speaker 1: you're putting that smaller, undersized defensive line in a tough spot.

616
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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: And I think Fred brought up a great point, you know,

618
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Speaker 1: because he does that every once in a while. He said, like,

619
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Speaker 1: we got bigger to be better when the game flow

620
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Speaker 1: is not in favor.

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Speaker 2: Right.

622
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Speaker 1: So now it's I don't want to say we got

623
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Speaker 1: two teams. So we got guys that you can kind

624
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Speaker 1: of like the Bass bros. You put them out there.

625
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,360
Speaker 1: I can play two different games and then I look

626
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Speaker 1: at when hey man, it's second and eleven or third

627
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Speaker 1: and twelve. Yeah, Frankly, woo come out of here, Jacob, come

628
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,680
Speaker 1: out here. We got we got some people that can blitz.

629
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Speaker 1: We got to look and rush we got and again

630
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Speaker 1: like there's where you went.

631
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Speaker 2: Yes's some time, and so.

632
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Speaker 1: I think like it kind of runs a little bit

633
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Speaker 1: like a hockey rotate.

634
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Speaker 2: That's what we taught. We just asked this course.

635
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Speaker 4: At the end of the day, do you want a

636
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Speaker 4: variety of different kind of players that do you want

637
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Speaker 4: the same?

638
00:26:01,800 --> 00:26:03,800
Speaker 2: Same answer that.

639
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Speaker 4: Question, a variety because you want to be able to

640
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Speaker 4: play different styles of play game.

641
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Speaker 1: Don't come with his challenges and ideally you want somebody

642
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:11,680
Speaker 1: who could do both.

643
00:26:11,960 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 2: But that's a perfect world. That's a perfect world. The

644
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Speaker 2: world ain't perfect.

645
00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 3: I'm gonna get these guys in here, and I'm gonna

646
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Speaker 3: get Biggert so I can win first down.

647
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Speaker 2: Cause I always say it changes. I would love variety

648
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Speaker 2: with the same output of you know, production. You said

649
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Speaker 2: that that's a great point.

650
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Speaker 1: So I think that's kind of the way, okay, scheme,

651
00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,440
Speaker 1: it's the I think it'll be largely the same. Yeah,

652
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 1: but I think if you can make some of these

653
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 1: personnel improvements, you're gonna be cooking. Now let's get a

654
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:39,760
Speaker 1: little bit deeper on the coverage, right, So, I see Fred,

655
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Speaker 1: and I want to get your perspective on this. I

656
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Speaker 1: see a team that wants to play more man coverage, Yes,

657
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Speaker 1: they do because it allows your pressure. Right, we can

658
00:26:46,640 --> 00:26:48,480
Speaker 1: blitz more. We can just do some different things with

659
00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,120
Speaker 1: the rotation in the back end. We can have lord

660
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:51,640
Speaker 1: players PRIs man.

661
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,280
Speaker 3: They don't want to play off man. They want to

662
00:26:53,280 --> 00:26:54,560
Speaker 3: play priss man.

663
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 4: Put your hands in his fat reach out and touch

664
00:26:57,040 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 4: some guys like AT and T used to do and

665
00:26:59,040 --> 00:26:59,440
Speaker 4: so Fred.

666
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: What are some pros and are some cons of man

667
00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:05,600
Speaker 1: coverage versus own if you're if you're a quarterback, I.

668
00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 3: Guess this is what I love playing man. I want

669
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:12,080
Speaker 3: to simplify the route tree, all right, Tayn to know this.

670
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:15,320
Speaker 3: When we walk down and press, the chick goes quickly

671
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 3: to slant. I fade no matter what the play is called.

672
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,800
Speaker 3: Sometimes true, you have adjustments.

673
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:29,040
Speaker 2: That's his way. I'm looking at it.

674
00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:32,760
Speaker 3: This tree simplified all right, where they still run comebacks,

675
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:33,639
Speaker 3: but they still run this.

676
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,160
Speaker 2: Yes, but the quickest.

677
00:27:35,800 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 4: Check is yeah. He basically what he's saying is for

678
00:27:39,960 --> 00:27:42,760
Speaker 4: a quarterback them the routes. I need to be available

679
00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,080
Speaker 4: if I got to come back, and even if he's

680
00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:47,679
Speaker 4: pressing me in that guy's because we have routes to

681
00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 4: adjust and still run.

682
00:27:49,240 --> 00:27:50,520
Speaker 2: I mean, we have ways to get off the line

683
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:50,879
Speaker 2: of screaming.

684
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,440
Speaker 4: Like if I have a seven route and you come

685
00:27:53,440 --> 00:27:55,360
Speaker 4: out and pressing me, I'm gonna get off. I'm gonna

686
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,040
Speaker 4: beat your press and get inside of it. See what

687
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 4: I'm saying. So, but what you're saying is as the

688
00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,400
Speaker 4: quarterback needs that slint now he needs that, he don't.

689
00:28:03,400 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: He don't want those. And that's what I'm talking about

690
00:28:05,480 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 2: when I talked about the other day about.

691
00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:09,359
Speaker 4: Like when you have when you don't have time, it

692
00:28:09,400 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 4: don't matter who you got out there press, It don't

693
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,359
Speaker 4: matter when you don't have time, that guy got to

694
00:28:13,359 --> 00:28:14,240
Speaker 4: go elsewhere with the ball.

695
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 3: But that's why that press in it and that rush

696
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 3: goes together. I got to put my hands on him.

697
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 3: I'm not going up there to press him to run

698
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 3: with him. I'm going up there to one Mississippi in

699
00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 3: the two Mississippi. I'm trying to get this play over with.

700
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: You're trying to disrupt me on my route and also

701
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 4: make the quarterback pick somebody.

702
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,840
Speaker 3: And while doing it, I'm also trying to not undress

703
00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,240
Speaker 3: the coverage. That's what I do level about press man

704
00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:39,080
Speaker 3: to opposite to offman, like you still I can press

705
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: you in cover full like. And the one thing about

706
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 3: zone is zone is actually route reading. Like when we

707
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:49,320
Speaker 3: in zone, we really reading number two. We never read

708
00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 3: number one. Number one being the whitest guy, guy.

709
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:56,520
Speaker 2: Reading the slot received while we're reading the tight.

710
00:28:56,400 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 3: End, because that's going to tell you the high tell

711
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,680
Speaker 3: me if this slide receiver go now to that side,

712
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:02,800
Speaker 3: the other the dude coming inside.

713
00:29:03,360 --> 00:29:04,440
Speaker 2: Everything is a combination.

714
00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:08,160
Speaker 3: So once I read number two in zone, it's up

715
00:29:08,200 --> 00:29:11,640
Speaker 3: to me to blurt out and communicate to my safety

716
00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 3: in my back of what's going on. So we got

717
00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,080
Speaker 3: to talk more in zone and man and man is

718
00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 3: more of job pace tempo. This is what we want

719
00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:23,760
Speaker 3: In man like and man, we're fina force you. We're

720
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 3: fins trying to force you to do something that you're

721
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:26,040
Speaker 3: not comfortable with.

722
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,640
Speaker 1: And also I think maybe I'm wrong Ford, but also

723
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: think of coverage is a time where like we're trying

724
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: to get the rush home, we're trying to bring five,

725
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:35,960
Speaker 1: we're trying to get trying to get home, so you

726
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 1: don't have to cover very long. I think about Pittsburgh

727
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:39,880
Speaker 1: did this for a long time when they were in

728
00:29:39,920 --> 00:29:41,880
Speaker 1: man coverage. It was they were coming to heat you

729
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 1: up a little bit. Yeah, and I think that they

730
00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 1: bring an element of that here and uh, then they

731
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: can bring an element.

732
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 2: Of that now. I remember we ran a couple of those.

733
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 4: I think Fred was gone by that time, but Mike

734
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 4: used to love calling that zero both.

735
00:29:52,360 --> 00:29:58,080
Speaker 2: The rain rain, Yeah, damn London gre especially if you

736
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 2: don't have the right right personality Russian. We played so

737
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:02,440
Speaker 2: much zero.

738
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: But we would do it in this wild Zero means

739
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:09,040
Speaker 1: there's no safety, no help and me and you.

740
00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,840
Speaker 3: And we ran it in the red zone, oh like,

741
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:17,400
Speaker 3: and we ran it over and over the work.

742
00:30:17,840 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 2: It always worked. We was the number one defense in

743
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:22,800
Speaker 2: the league. Like it was, We're gonna heat you up.

744
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 2: Quarterback gotta make a he got to make a decision now.

745
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,040
Speaker 3: And actually I always tell quarterback this, if they don't

746
00:30:30,040 --> 00:30:33,160
Speaker 3: make the decision pre snap, we already won. Like they

747
00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: need to make that decision before the ball to snap.

748
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 3: So when I seen them not checking.

749
00:30:37,720 --> 00:30:40,000
Speaker 2: I dig in Like now, I'm like, I'm ready now

750
00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:41,240
Speaker 2: because all I gotta do is touching.

751
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,000
Speaker 3: But long once I touch him, now we didn't already

752
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:47,000
Speaker 3: won this down, like, but once he checked the line,

753
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 3: now I'm looking now, I'm like, I wonder what he

754
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: checked to. Then I'm looking at town and see the

755
00:30:51,880 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 3: tanner just moving side that number. Did he move outside

756
00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,200
Speaker 3: the number? Like I'm trying to get any key I

757
00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:56,520
Speaker 3: can get.

758
00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I wonder if they do. They didn't run a ton.

759
00:30:59,640 --> 00:31:01,280
Speaker 1: They did not run a town of zero last year.

760
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 2: I don't know. They did a little bit in Dallas.

761
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:06,280
Speaker 2: I can say, I don't last year won the year

762
00:31:06,320 --> 00:31:06,880
Speaker 2: to run zero?

763
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:11,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, the coverage, the coverage wasn't Yeah, that's that's

764
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:12,280
Speaker 1: what you gotta really.

765
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,560
Speaker 2: You got to trust the other. You got to be good.

766
00:31:15,600 --> 00:31:18,000
Speaker 4: I saw I saw Wes Welgan run thirteen routes on

767
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:20,880
Speaker 4: D Hall. I met d Hall in the field, Like,

768
00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:25,440
Speaker 4: it's not your fault, brother, we can Brady's back there

769
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:26,520
Speaker 4: tapping the ball so much.

770
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,760
Speaker 2: The eyeline was sitting there there just playing with this

771
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:29,640
Speaker 2: windmilling and there.

772
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 4: They didn't get nowhere, bro, And it's like it hurts

773
00:31:33,240 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 4: the dB, especially when you have great defensive backs. Yeah,

774
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:39,400
Speaker 4: he cannot cover that long, you know, I mean it's impossible,

775
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:41,480
Speaker 4: and it's zero coverage. You got to get out to

776
00:31:41,520 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 4: the quarterback.

777
00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, And it's intertme thinking about zero, thinking about man

778
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,480
Speaker 1: coverage and again they're not gonna only play man, They're

779
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: not gonna only play it four down. They have some flexibility,

780
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:50,520
Speaker 1: have some variety. Just to be clear, this is I

781
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,000
Speaker 1: think what they want to be doing specifically on third down.

782
00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,080
Speaker 3: How you want to dictate yourself as a defense, right,

783
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 3: It's only one way for us to dictate the offense.

784
00:31:57,640 --> 00:31:59,960
Speaker 2: And it says the tech. Yeah, like if we don't tach,

785
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: we siting and taking punch.

786
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,920
Speaker 1: And so when I hear when I think about this,

787
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:05,560
Speaker 1: man probably a little bit more pressure, you know, like

788
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,640
Speaker 1: on third down specifically, man pressure is whatever fire zones,

789
00:32:08,960 --> 00:32:11,200
Speaker 1: different things like that to kind of disrupt the offense.

790
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:13,200
Speaker 1: How important is a guy like Will.

791
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 3: Harris to that' Hey, first of all, Will is this

792
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 3: He's in mouth and I will not underestimate communication.

793
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 2: If we ain't on the same page, we ain't got

794
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 2: a chance. All right. We are a boy band.

795
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: We ain't spinning at the same time the four tops,

796
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:32,120
Speaker 3: I ain't selling no tickets.

797
00:32:32,800 --> 00:32:36,479
Speaker 2: We have to communicate because that allows us to steal.

798
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: Like the one thing I used to love having shun

799
00:32:38,760 --> 00:32:41,760
Speaker 3: on Taylor is my free safety receive.

800
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,680
Speaker 2: We just ain't trying to go over the middle. So

801
00:32:44,800 --> 00:32:48,320
Speaker 2: guess what I stopped playing posts posts in Niggs.

802
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 3: I don't play them no more. And if I won't,

803
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:52,959
Speaker 3: if i'm if I tell Shun check this out. If

804
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 3: he know I'm tapping the back of my thigh, I'm

805
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:58,360
Speaker 3: telling shut I'm not moving. I'm not going to back pedal.

806
00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,719
Speaker 3: I feel like they're gonna do some short and I'm

807
00:33:00,720 --> 00:33:04,200
Speaker 3: finna go get it. So it's just inner link communication

808
00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,360
Speaker 3: and that's what we Harris brings. He's a yapper that

809
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:11,000
Speaker 3: loved to take on information and it's fit it back

810
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 3: out like I love people to take in with the

811
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 3: office is showing me and regurgitating to me. I don't

812
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,320
Speaker 3: care if it's just a simple motion. Man, you're buying

813
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 3: yourself or whatever. Communicate with me that allows me to

814
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 3: play faster.

815
00:33:26,200 --> 00:33:28,240
Speaker 2: Have you seen that I have.

816
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 3: I've seen them moving around, I've seen them yapping, and

817
00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 3: I've seen them like I'm always.

818
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 2: Looking for the head turns.

819
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: Like when I see a coming back head turn, that

820
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 3: mean he taking in information. Last year, I never really

821
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,240
Speaker 3: seen Benjamin Saint Jud's head turn a lot.

822
00:33:43,640 --> 00:33:47,280
Speaker 2: He was locked in. He was just I'm there and

823
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:48,320
Speaker 2: I got a job to do.

824
00:33:49,000 --> 00:33:51,240
Speaker 3: No, I need to I need to see you taking

825
00:33:51,280 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 3: in constant because the play constantly changing, and I know

826
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:59,040
Speaker 3: good safeties And the one thing about it is Qun

827
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 3: is a good communication.

828
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,360
Speaker 2: Wa Harrison is a good communicator.

829
00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 3: And when you got that in the safety position, they

830
00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,280
Speaker 3: giving me an ah over the colon, I mean over

831
00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:08,240
Speaker 3: the wire, SI that I can't get with that, damn.

832
00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: They also think he brings like a versatility, yeah, like

833
00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:14,359
Speaker 1: a like some more flexibility if you want to play

834
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:16,880
Speaker 1: man coverage. Yeah, I feel comfortable about him doing that.

835
00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:19,359
Speaker 1: I think he's he's good in coverage. He's a really

836
00:34:19,400 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: good blitzer.

837
00:34:20,080 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 2: Yeah right.

838
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:22,160
Speaker 1: I think he's good against the run. So if you

839
00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,640
Speaker 1: want to play that like Nickel Nicol, he can do

840
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:26,239
Speaker 1: out with that guy kind of in the box, that

841
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: overhang player, Like that's a great fit for that.

842
00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:29,200
Speaker 2: So I don't know.

843
00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:30,600
Speaker 1: I just think it's like when I look at the

844
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: defensive line, I'm like, man, they really brought in a

845
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,600
Speaker 1: lot of pieces that fill in holes from last year.

846
00:34:34,719 --> 00:34:34,919
Speaker 2: Yeah.

847
00:34:34,960 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: And when I look at that addition specifically in the secondary,

848
00:34:37,360 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 1: shoot like Jones, right, Jonathan Jones, like also just bringing

849
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:44,160
Speaker 1: in depth, bring in some flexibility, bring in guys that

850
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,000
Speaker 1: have played man coverage that can't play man coverage. I

851
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 1: think it's extremely important and I would imagine it gives

852
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,600
Speaker 1: the defensive coordinator a lot of confidence.

853
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,240
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't give me a lot of confidence.

854
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:55,440
Speaker 4: I'll tell you I watched the defensive backs primarily when

855
00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 4: being a receiver, being a former guy that had to

856
00:34:57,920 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 4: go up against these guys and nause them in. When

857
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:02,960
Speaker 4: I used to watch us, I used always, you know,

858
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:04,640
Speaker 4: we be watching the game, I go to shake my

859
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,120
Speaker 4: head like I already see something that's gonna happen. And

860
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:11,400
Speaker 4: it's not even about because you know, the player is

861
00:35:11,480 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 4: never over, intil the players over. But when you see

862
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,799
Speaker 4: a corner that you're not confident in that or he's

863
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,959
Speaker 4: not confident, that's that's a weak link, and that makes

864
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 4: everybody weak.

865
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: You see what I'm saying.

866
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,320
Speaker 4: So you know, think about it in those games where

867
00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:27,000
Speaker 4: we want a couple of them, but it got in

868
00:35:27,000 --> 00:35:31,160
Speaker 4: the game where we have to lead and one, one

869
00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 4: or two guys might pass in the ference because they

870
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 4: just can't cover. Now you bring in guys that know

871
00:35:36,200 --> 00:35:38,759
Speaker 4: I'm the cover this dude, I ain't gotta play.

872
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:40,880
Speaker 2: I ain't got a pity pat you know what I mean?

873
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,280
Speaker 4: I ain't got a panic, they gonna be, they gonna

874
00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:45,240
Speaker 4: they gonna think twice the thrown.

875
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 2: Has ball to me because of who I am. You

876
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:47,520
Speaker 2: see what I'm saying, And.

877
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:49,799
Speaker 4: That's what a guy like Harris brings now to that

878
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:53,400
Speaker 4: secondary along with the added corners, because now you have

879
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,440
Speaker 4: guys but that that can actually cover, and then you

880
00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,919
Speaker 4: have guys in safety that you can't even read.

881
00:35:57,960 --> 00:35:59,360
Speaker 2: You don't know if he's at safety, don't want to.

882
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 4: And so that's why I like about just seeing what

883
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 4: we added to the secondary, just knowing that, man, I

884
00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,640
Speaker 4: can rest assurance say went in doubt, it won't be

885
00:36:09,719 --> 00:36:11,840
Speaker 4: no more pistsburghs what happened to us last year the

886
00:36:11,880 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 4: last player of the game where I'm not reading down

887
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:16,400
Speaker 4: in distance, I don't know that I can.

888
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:18,879
Speaker 2: I can't give up a go route right now.

889
00:36:19,160 --> 00:36:20,560
Speaker 4: It's a down that I just can't give you.

890
00:36:22,600 --> 00:36:24,320
Speaker 2: This in front of you, But I ain't.

891
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 4: Giving you that. You see what I'm saying. Now you

892
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 4: have guys that understand that part of the game.

893
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 1: And I was gonna say, Tanna, like, Uh, You've played

894
00:36:30,520 --> 00:36:33,479
Speaker 1: against all different types of cornerbacks. You play against young guys,

895
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,360
Speaker 1: old guys. Do you find the Guys with more experience

896
00:36:36,960 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: are better in those moments because they've just seen it.

897
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,480
Speaker 1: And so now again, like I go back to the

898
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,120
Speaker 1: ads right there, dudes with a lot of experience playing

899
00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: a bunch of different defenses, like and it just seems like,

900
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,879
Speaker 1: I don't know, when I played against dudes that knew

901
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:51,080
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff, it made it hard for me

902
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,759
Speaker 1: to be successful because they don't waste.

903
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:55,560
Speaker 4: And not only that, I mean you got to think

904
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,759
Speaker 4: about it. I was here, I was tell you how

905
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 4: long I've been playing. We had a guy inly was

906
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,439
Speaker 4: so young and so so you know, he was just raw.

907
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 4: You know, it was like he wasn't here he athletically

908
00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:09,879
Speaker 4: he can go out there and cover the best of them.

909
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:11,960
Speaker 4: Then you put a guy like d Haul in his

910
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,920
Speaker 4: ear and tell him, no, bro, look at this. Do

911
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 4: this bringings to come pick my brand?

912
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 2: Twner?

913
00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 4: So what you saw on that man, oh man, man's man,

914
00:37:19,239 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 4: and man, I'm gonna kill you because you're not thinking

915
00:37:22,320 --> 00:37:24,759
Speaker 4: about the down and distance and pretend to.

916
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 2: Think about where your healths at. I got you because

917
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,319
Speaker 2: I know you're thinking about it. I ain't. I'm just

918
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:30,960
Speaker 2: trying to run with this guy. I'm trying to make sure.

919
00:37:31,080 --> 00:37:32,759
Speaker 4: I'm gonna give you all kind of moves and the

920
00:37:32,840 --> 00:37:34,960
Speaker 4: thing I'm I'm gonna give you a different route and

921
00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:37,480
Speaker 4: beat you. And then you get him a year or

922
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:39,040
Speaker 4: two or not even a year. In the middle of

923
00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 4: that season, I watched his game tremendously changed because he's

924
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 4: checking somebody in practice every day with me that's playing

925
00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: and that's talking to him. And then you got a

926
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 4: d haul on his team that's telling them, Man, before

927
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:53,319
Speaker 4: you know it, he wasn't fooled by nothing. So just

928
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,880
Speaker 4: to get back to your question, when you have veterans,

929
00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:57,799
Speaker 4: when you have guys that just know, man, look here,

930
00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,839
Speaker 4: I ain't got to go out here and work too hard,

931
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:02,040
Speaker 4: working smart? Yeah, why should I should out here and

932
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 4: go I'm gonna take what I see the deep, what

933
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:05,600
Speaker 4: the offense is trying to do. I'm gonna take that

934
00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 4: away and then now use my help. And even when

935
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:09,759
Speaker 4: you and man, you can use help. Yeah, you still

936
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 4: got a safety, still got a safe in the minutefield,

937
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 4: or you have the sideline, and a lot of these

938
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:15,080
Speaker 4: dbs on they don't use the sideline. We talked about

939
00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 4: that all that ship like that's a that's show, that's

940
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 4: your friend back.

941
00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 2: Now I am ride him on that sideline. It's tough

942
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,560
Speaker 2: for us to you know, be able to get away

943
00:38:24,600 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 2: from that.

944
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: And thinking back to some of those conversations we had

945
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 1: in the season last year about guys not playing seemingly

946
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,799
Speaker 1: not playing that we don't know the defense you don't get.

947
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 2: But not playing to the strength of the coverage.

948
00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:37,440
Speaker 3: We knew the new the coverage, we didn't know what

949
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:38,359
Speaker 3: they was doing though.

950
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 2: Yeah.

951
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,120
Speaker 1: So I think there's there's a lot of really cool

952
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: additions in the secondary. I think about the leadership those

953
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 1: guys provide, like ten of That example is perfect because

954
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,799
Speaker 1: it's like the linebackers had some the defensive lines had

955
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 1: guys like that, but the secondary hasn't really had that

956
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,399
Speaker 1: guy to be like, hey man, I'm a veteran, I've

957
00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 1: been here before.

958
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:55,879
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I don't know Fred if.

959
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:57,680
Speaker 1: Udiver had anybody in your career, I guess when you

960
00:38:57,719 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 1: first got in.

961
00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 2: Say, I had guys from the time I got in sometime. Damn, guys,

962
00:39:05,400 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: let's not talk about the first group.

963
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:11,920
Speaker 3: You think about them, Me the Hall, Collins, Rogers, shun Springs,

964
00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:13,520
Speaker 3: Me and Toine Winfield.

965
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: I have always been.

966
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,800
Speaker 4: Paired another good cone I was gonna say, you probably

967
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,600
Speaker 4: don't even talk about the other guys because of the

968
00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 4: other hall of famous.

969
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:24,800
Speaker 1: Like the border hall of famers you just mentioned.

970
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 4: So you came back here with the Blue. I know,

971
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,239
Speaker 4: we get Blue for a lot of black Man. That boy,

972
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:34,360
Speaker 4: that boy was smart. No, No, Blue the game like

973
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:38,600
Speaker 4: Blue in his size, yes, like bro Like I look

974
00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 4: at him like all right, I'm finna just go go

975
00:39:40,520 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: gadget legs and I'm gonna beat him because I know

976
00:39:42,600 --> 00:39:44,839
Speaker 4: I'm I'm faster. You see what I'm saying. But if

977
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,520
Speaker 4: I let him just go out there and think about

978
00:39:47,560 --> 00:39:48,399
Speaker 4: what I got going on?

979
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 2: No, he did, No, he did.

980
00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:55,279
Speaker 3: Didn't realized Blue led us one year in sex and

981
00:39:55,320 --> 00:39:57,879
Speaker 3: me and him tied in interceptions. So he was lean

982
00:39:57,920 --> 00:40:02,319
Speaker 3: the team in sex and tied in with interceptions, like

983
00:40:02,520 --> 00:40:05,320
Speaker 3: how many corners do that? And he played the nickel,

984
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: he played inside.

985
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,200
Speaker 4: He can arguably be being a damn strung safety back

986
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:14,879
Speaker 4: like he was that big playing con ain't can run

987
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:15,160
Speaker 4: with you.

988
00:40:15,200 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 1: So fred Man, you're so lucky you get to play

989
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,520
Speaker 1: with some really good football players. So that's obviously where

990
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:22,319
Speaker 1: we think the defense is act currently, And this is

991
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:24,480
Speaker 1: maybe a better pressure question for FREA because I really

992
00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 1: have no idea, like what kind of changes would you

993
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,719
Speaker 1: have made in an off season from one off season

994
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:30,960
Speaker 1: to the next, like in terms of evolving the defense,

995
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: or is it like this is who we are and

996
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:36,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna add a little sprinkling of layer cake.

997
00:40:37,280 --> 00:40:39,839
Speaker 3: I'm just fna layer the cake what we did. Yeah,

998
00:40:39,960 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 3: I'm gonna do the same thing we need. We're gonna

999
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,240
Speaker 3: get better at what we do and I'm gonna answer

1000
00:40:44,280 --> 00:40:46,320
Speaker 3: more because now I got some guys that I trust.

1001
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,560
Speaker 1: So what's an example of something you could add, Like

1002
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:51,960
Speaker 1: are you adding blitzes? Are you adding coverages or rules?

1003
00:40:52,400 --> 00:40:56,359
Speaker 3: And situational football where we weren't where we where we

1004
00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,960
Speaker 3: try to just survive on third down.

1005
00:41:00,280 --> 00:41:02,279
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna thrive on the third.

1006
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,240
Speaker 3: Down, Like that's the down, that's the down of all downs.

1007
00:41:05,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 3: Third down is the down all down. We're gonna start

1008
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:12,200
Speaker 3: to dictate third down instead of being dictated to like

1009
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,640
Speaker 3: last year we got dictated on third down and we

1010
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:16,920
Speaker 3: just we'll take a punch out, we will dodge the punch.

1011
00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 2: Now we're gonna throw punches. We're gonna throw punches because

1012
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: now I.

1013
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:22,960
Speaker 3: Am freed up to play man and man on third down,

1014
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 3: I am freed up to go zone blitz.

1015
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 2: I am freed up. I can go zero if I

1016
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:29,239
Speaker 2: feel like it. And I'm sure Joe what Junior would

1017
00:41:29,480 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 2: is gonna be better at calling game.

1018
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: Like, Hey, like I showed Man this last time, Let's

1019
00:41:33,760 --> 00:41:36,960
Speaker 1: show man disguise, but it's really tampatu or man.

1020
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: Let me put Frankie Louvu on the right. Let them

1021
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,319
Speaker 3: think I'm coming from the right. I'm coming from the lift.

1022
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 3: So that I'm gonna say he's gonna play some Jedi

1023
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 3: mind tricks with some offenses.

1024
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:49,640
Speaker 2: Now he's more experienced, he's.

1025
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,680
Speaker 4: More experience, and then got guys that he can back in, like.

1026
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:56,040
Speaker 3: The one thing you cannot do is a defensive coordinator

1027
00:41:56,200 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 3: is called the defense you want with doctor back end,

1028
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 3: like knowing my back even gonna take care of that.

1029
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:03,840
Speaker 4: You got to think a lot of times we didn't

1030
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: show it a lot because our defense was just ferocious together.

1031
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,280
Speaker 4: Them boys was they They was hungry every time, every down.

1032
00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:13,080
Speaker 4: But at times you can see, especially being a being

1033
00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,399
Speaker 4: a formal receiving is league, you can see that. Ah

1034
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 4: he we we we don't want to We don't want

1035
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 4: him to get beat over.

1036
00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 2: There. We don't want to leave that.

1037
00:42:20,520 --> 00:42:23,040
Speaker 4: We run this cover. Were running this coverage because we're

1038
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 4: trying to protect someone field. So when you can see

1039
00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:27,640
Speaker 4: that us, when we can sit in the box and

1040
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 4: see that, just think about what that oc doing in

1041
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:30,800
Speaker 4: the box.

1042
00:42:30,920 --> 00:42:32,040
Speaker 2: He seeing too.

1043
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:33,839
Speaker 4: He don't want him to get beat. So I'm gonna

1044
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 4: do something. George still find a way to get this

1045
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,120
Speaker 4: ball off. But now they're gonna protect him and lead

1046
00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:41,640
Speaker 4: this guy over here. You see what I'm saying.

1047
00:42:41,719 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 1: So yeah, absolutely, And so we've talked a lot about,

1048
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:49,200
Speaker 1: you know, scheme evolution, player evolution because of free agency,

1049
00:42:50,040 --> 00:42:51,759
Speaker 1: and I think this is maybe a fun one of

1050
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,560
Speaker 1: the fred You've bringing this up every time we talk

1051
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 1: about it. It's like, who are the guys that got

1052
00:42:55,560 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: to take the next step in the defense for them

1053
00:42:57,640 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: to go from like I think they're gonna be pretty good.

1054
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 1: I think they'll be goo and I got pretty pretty good.

1055
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,440
Speaker 1: Could be anywhere from in my opinion, like nineteen to.

1056
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 2: Eight, top half, top half of the league, top half

1057
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:08,319
Speaker 2: of the league.

1058
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:10,879
Speaker 1: But like, is there a guy You're like, hey, these

1059
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: guys got to take the next step, and then then

1060
00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: they're in the top half an hour, top ten, top fifteen.

1061
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:24,040
Speaker 2: I won't Vintage two thy twenty two pay too. We

1062
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:27,080
Speaker 2: all want to. I won't, and I feel that it's

1063
00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,399
Speaker 2: finna half. Yeah, like two thousand and two vintage. I'm

1064
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:34,520
Speaker 2: a home grd dog with Raby. I think.

1065
00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:37,279
Speaker 4: I think just what you're saying is gonna be. You're

1066
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: gonna see him and him and Newton competing because I

1067
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 4: think Newton just a full full off season, not have

1068
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 4: to worry about rehabing that foot, and just to see

1069
00:43:48,080 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 4: the little snippy we saw last year from him being

1070
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 4: a being a rookie, Like that's a rookie that we

1071
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 4: didn't talk don't We haven't talked a lot about this

1072
00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,800
Speaker 4: off season that that showed big highs, you know what

1073
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:58,080
Speaker 4: I mean?

1074
00:43:58,120 --> 00:43:59,600
Speaker 2: Like last year was amazing.

1075
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,839
Speaker 3: He was on My Get last show and he had

1076
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,160
Speaker 3: this smile on his face. He was like, man, I'm

1077
00:44:04,160 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: so happy.

1078
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 2: I feel good. I'm ready right now, like y'all, Finn

1079
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 2: to see the real meat.

1080
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:11,160
Speaker 4: And like you think about it, his jump, his first

1081
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 4: step is almost sappish. Yeah, he might not be as

1082
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:22,080
Speaker 4: big as scept he's like height wi Mike, Mike got

1083
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:24,239
Speaker 4: him in the height area. Yeah, but like you know,

1084
00:44:24,520 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: size body type the whole man. I mean, he had

1085
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 4: that explosiveness and by hisself.

1086
00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: So it's funny we started talking the show off and

1087
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: Frederick the interior guy. Even though we were trying to

1088
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,759
Speaker 1: protect the edges of the defense, the interier guy is

1089
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:38,680
Speaker 1: really important. And I'm and we did this on the

1090
00:44:38,760 --> 00:44:40,040
Speaker 1: last show, but I feel.

1091
00:44:39,920 --> 00:44:40,799
Speaker 2: Very strongly about him.

1092
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:46,400
Speaker 1: I am so bullish on Doran Jerson and man, I

1093
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:48,120
Speaker 1: am so bullish on those guys right now.

1094
00:44:48,120 --> 00:44:48,879
Speaker 2: I'm just like, if they.

1095
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:53,080
Speaker 1: Like all four of those guys, why and why is

1096
00:44:53,080 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: this gonna play both? And Holmes is probably gonna if

1097
00:44:55,480 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: he makes the team to play both. So I looked

1098
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,319
Speaker 1: at him like, man, this could be that that interior yes,

1099
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:01,560
Speaker 1: can cause problems.

1100
00:45:01,960 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: Problems, It could like rock the good of an offense.

1101
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:07,600
Speaker 3: If you want to ride up an offense, you got

1102
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:09,880
Speaker 3: to do it right up the middle of the field.

1103
00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,399
Speaker 2: I have to kick that.

1104
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: Center's face in every play. If you want to dominate

1105
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 3: the offense, put that center in the lap of that quarterback.

1106
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:20,480
Speaker 3: I don't care if you're a runner or not. I

1107
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 3: dominate your defense. And I told you we went from

1108
00:45:23,600 --> 00:45:25,959
Speaker 3: a third down defense last year to a first down

1109
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 3: defense this year. We are built for first down, We're

1110
00:45:28,800 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 3: built on third We're built to conquer first down.

1111
00:45:32,960 --> 00:45:35,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, which I mean it's going to be really exciting.

1112
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:36,920
Speaker 1: And so again, I think those guys are ready for

1113
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 1: a step forward. I think Kawan Martin ready for a

1114
00:45:39,239 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 1: step forward.

1115
00:45:39,840 --> 00:45:42,839
Speaker 2: I think Kwan Quinn. I think Kwan want to go to.

1116
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,239
Speaker 3: A all start Pro Bowl type level.

1117
00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 2: I think he's ready to take that step. Yeah.

1118
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: So I think there's a bunch of guys and obviously

1119
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: the backup kind of guys. Can McGee find a role

1120
00:45:52,719 --> 00:45:53,879
Speaker 1: and you know, do some of those.

1121
00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:56,000
Speaker 3: You think Jee McGee is waiting his time, you know

1122
00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:57,800
Speaker 3: what I'm saying, He behind.

1123
00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:00,000
Speaker 2: The bits of all day, he getting so much nonedge.

1124
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,320
Speaker 4: I'm gonna say he might not even got the axes

1125
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,719
Speaker 4: guy none, just watching them just I'm pretty sure he's

1126
00:46:04,719 --> 00:46:05,800
Speaker 4: been learning from.

1127
00:46:06,360 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: He's just there. Yeah.

1128
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:10,000
Speaker 1: But I think about specifically that defensive line, how that

1129
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: helps Bobby. You know, Bobby at the times last year

1130
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: was getting kind of again caught caught up in the wash,

1131
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:15,520
Speaker 1: you know, having a.

1132
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:16,399
Speaker 2: Hard time getting the edge.

1133
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: We're not we're not setting the edges, you know, we're

1134
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: not too We're supposed to do now you got those

1135
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:21,320
Speaker 1: guys in the interior.

1136
00:46:21,400 --> 00:46:23,520
Speaker 3: That's because you had the age Russian rushing up field

1137
00:46:23,880 --> 00:46:26,239
Speaker 3: on a run though it's sure right now, like no,

1138
00:46:26,840 --> 00:46:27,439
Speaker 3: what are you doing?

1139
00:46:27,560 --> 00:46:27,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1140
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,200
Speaker 1: No, So I think that's something I'm really excited about.

1141
00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: So I personally think again, I think schematically, they like

1142
00:46:34,080 --> 00:46:35,480
Speaker 1: Fred said, they're gonna layer it.

1143
00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:36,399
Speaker 2: It'll be a little bit.

1144
00:46:36,320 --> 00:46:38,279
Speaker 1: A little bit of tweak here, a little bit tweet care,

1145
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,600
Speaker 1: a little bit more experienced calling the defense, a little

1146
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:42,319
Speaker 1: bit more experienced with the guys in the back end,

1147
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: but it's gonna be a lot of the same. And

1148
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,080
Speaker 1: I just think they've done a great job of getting

1149
00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 1: the right types of people in the right spots to

1150
00:46:49,880 --> 00:46:52,480
Speaker 1: really make big impacts on this defense. Yeah, and so

1151
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:54,480
Speaker 1: that's something I'm really excited about. And unfortunately we got

1152
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 1: to wait till August to see it kind of all

1153
00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:56,480
Speaker 1: come together.

1154
00:46:56,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: August is already here. Last week while was at Mintica,

1155
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,840
Speaker 2: around the corner just made the grass. When was that grass?

1156
00:47:04,880 --> 00:47:08,040
Speaker 2: Does something that that that Virginia creeper out there?

1157
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:10,319
Speaker 3: Listen, I don't know what it is, but when I

1158
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:14,040
Speaker 3: walked out there, like damn, I want to play football.

1159
00:47:14,200 --> 00:47:17,319
Speaker 1: I can't, But did I tell you this. So when

1160
00:47:17,320 --> 00:47:18,600
Speaker 1: I came out and did the show with you, they

1161
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:21,520
Speaker 1: Camp show. The night before, I had a nightmare that

1162
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta and dan Quinn was cutting me.

1163
00:47:26,040 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 2: You did did you wake up into college?

1164
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,200
Speaker 1: I woke up in a cold sweat And it was

1165
00:47:30,239 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: one of those ones where I was like, do I

1166
00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: have to go.

1167
00:47:32,000 --> 00:47:32,840
Speaker 2: Into the facility right?

1168
00:47:33,480 --> 00:47:34,839
Speaker 1: Like I got to get my play I don't even

1169
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 1: know where my playbook is. Like I was told my

1170
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,520
Speaker 1: wife was like are you okay. I'm like, I don't know, man,

1171
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,840
Speaker 1: I think I just got it was like and she

1172
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:43,520
Speaker 1: was like she's like, yeah this babe. She's like ever

1173
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:45,600
Speaker 1: play football for about six years. And I was like,

1174
00:47:46,200 --> 00:47:48,920
Speaker 1: it was crazy, bro, But it was it is the season?

1175
00:47:49,000 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 2: Is the boy year. The alarm in your head was it.

1176
00:47:52,560 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: Was like you couldn't. It was like it's time.

1177
00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:56,759
Speaker 3: No, Because when I went out there, I was like, oh,

1178
00:47:57,320 --> 00:48:00,480
Speaker 3: like I got a little adrenaline like staring a pumping.

1179
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:03,719
Speaker 2: I was like, dude, come down, You're not going to

1180
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:04,320
Speaker 2: do anything.

1181
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,640
Speaker 4: Like I told BC the same thing that when I

1182
00:48:06,680 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 4: was out there, I feel like I feel like the

1183
00:48:08,040 --> 00:48:10,160
Speaker 4: hairs ending up and I'm like.

1184
00:48:10,160 --> 00:48:12,799
Speaker 2: Damn, what is it? About being here today. We out

1185
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 2: here all the time, but something about that day just

1186
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:16,759
Speaker 2: gave me that little feeling, you know.

1187
00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:19,319
Speaker 1: So that's third day's away. We can't we can't wait.

1188
00:48:19,600 --> 00:48:21,080
Speaker 1: We just wired like that for life.

1189
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:24,840
Speaker 2: We lost in. Can't be having weird nightmares like that.

1190
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,520
Speaker 2: I hope he not wired like that. I would love

1191
00:48:27,560 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 2: to be in the.

1192
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:40,720
Speaker 1: Co So we can't wait, can't wait to watch this defense,

1193
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:42,880
Speaker 1: and then we'll probably do another update on the Defense

1194
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,279
Speaker 1: when Trading Camp starts, and we'll do live shows on

1195
00:48:45,719 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 1: the Command Center Show, which we can't wait to do so.

1196
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,960
Speaker 1: But in the meantime, right now, right, I forgot right

1197
00:48:52,960 --> 00:48:54,880
Speaker 1: there this one right there we go and she hit

1198
00:48:54,920 --> 00:48:57,040
Speaker 1: that thing and buy those tickets there really helping, really

1199
00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:57,680
Speaker 1: appreciate it.

1200
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:00,399
Speaker 2: But that's who doing for today show. Thanks, I used

1201
00:49:00,480 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 2: That's it.