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Speaker 1: A word from our sponsors. My ex fiance cheated on

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Speaker 1: me with my stepsister. Now my family wants me to

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Speaker 1: forgive them.

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Speaker 2: Oh way, do not forgive that. Move on greener pastures.

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Speaker 1: So when I was twenty three, now twenty eight, I

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Speaker 1: was engaged to Ryan thirty two now thirty seven, and

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Speaker 1: our engagement ended when my stepsister, Kelly was twenty four

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Speaker 1: now twenty nine, begged me to leave him because they

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Speaker 1: loved each other. But Ryan was too afraid to break

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Speaker 1: up with me because he didn't want to hurt me

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Speaker 1: and my family. Maybe try not sleep, stepsister, if you

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Speaker 1: don't want to hurt people.

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Speaker 2: WHOA That is a strong first sentence.

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Speaker 1: By the way. By the way, this comes from throw

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Speaker 1: that subredd I send him in. So when I confronted

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Speaker 1: Ryan about it, he denied it and said that she

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Speaker 1: had been trying to come on to him for some time,

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Speaker 1: and he never mentioned it because he didn't want to

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Speaker 1: ruin a relationship. He begged me not to believe her,

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Speaker 1: and so he continued how we were the Opie basically

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Speaker 1: took him at his face value.

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Speaker 2: Okay, Kelly grew resentful and made.

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Speaker 1: Nasty comments about how he was forcing a man who

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Speaker 1: didn't even love me to marry me because I had

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Speaker 1: low self esteem constantly.

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Speaker 2: Wow, this Stepsester sucked, dude, talk about evil Stepsesters.

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Speaker 1: Disney was right, yep, yep yo cast her right now.

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Speaker 1: A month later, she sent me a video of them

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Speaker 1: having spicy sleep in my bed. Oh oh that is

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Speaker 1: unrefutable evidence. Oh wow wow ooh, and multiple screenshots of

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Speaker 1: him telling her he loved her, oh, how he wished

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Speaker 1: she was the girl he was marrying, and how he

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Speaker 1: hated that I wouldn't let them.

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Speaker 2: Be to what do you mean, Just break up? Just

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Speaker 2: break up? There are better ways to go about.

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Speaker 1: This, and just to call it out even more, the

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Speaker 1: using shifting the blame on other people, like oh, yeah,

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Speaker 1: you know, Op's the one that's keeping you from me. No, no, oh,

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Speaker 1: he's just autonomy. Op's just sitting there living a life.

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Speaker 1: You are the one that's making up this insane mental

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Speaker 1: olympic set that you're doing these quadruple backflips through. Wow.

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Speaker 2: Oh man, those those first sentences just got me. I'm

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Speaker 1: So I was devastated and angry, but my best friend

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Speaker 1: convinced me not to go nuclear on them and instead

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Speaker 1: next week.

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Speaker 2: Smart, hey, hey, hey, you know what, self care over pettiness.

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Speaker 2: Self care over pettiness. Do not seek revenge, seek healing.

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Speaker 2: The healing ooh, because healing can only happen after you

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Speaker 2: let go of revenge and be like water.

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Speaker 1: True se quote. I think stable Donner. Uh So that's

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Speaker 1: what I did. I contacted my dad and my stepmom

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Speaker 1: removed the money I contributed into our joint account for

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Speaker 1: closing out the account. Once I got settled in, I

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Speaker 1: sent all the screenshots she sent to me to all

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Speaker 1: of our relatives in his And to be clear, this

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Speaker 1: isn't the spy. I don't say spicy spicy video. This

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Speaker 2: I don't know, that's a little I think it's a

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Speaker 2: little trashy. Yeah, they're they're you know. The argument for

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Speaker 2: doing that is like, you know, uh uh, getting ahead

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Speaker 2: if they start weeping lies about who you are and

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Speaker 2: what you're doing, you can kind of preempt that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Ba, I don't know.

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Speaker 2: I just feel it feels like it feels like the

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Speaker 1: Same diseation, dropping nuclear bombs and civilians hot take, hot take.

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Speaker 1: So Ryan tried to get back together with me multiple times,

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Speaker 2: I mean, wow, he's gonna buy a new ring.

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Speaker 1: I mean, no, man, Godly, dude, what's wrong with you? Oh?

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Speaker 2: So, what's wrong with the sister for accepting that too? Well, dude,

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Speaker 2: step stepsister and talking about my self esteem? You know what,

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Speaker 2: They're made for each other. They are made They are

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Speaker 1: God. So, now, Kelly is my stepsister from my mom's side.

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Speaker 1: I have another stepsister thirty six and step brother thirty

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Speaker 1: schipster twenty six. They all went to the wedding whenever

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Speaker 2: And maybe ended it like more elegantly as eloqately as

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Speaker 2: But due dude, So so you would you would say

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Speaker 1: So if I had a sibling that stole my partner,

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Speaker 2: But I guess I'm trying to think about it through the.

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Speaker 1: Oh the fami Okay, So yeah, yeah, yeah, So if

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Speaker 2: Like, like, if your sister did this, what she would

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Speaker 1: I think if I understood, uh what that, I assume

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Speaker 1: just because how about a parent. You're a parent, my parent?

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Speaker 1: Wow if my parent did that? Or no, you are

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Speaker 2: It's tough. It's a tough situation to situation question if

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Speaker 1: Light up that keyboard. Let us know in the comments

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Speaker 1: and let us know too, Chap. So Uh. I haven't

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Speaker 1: Our relationship is very rocky, but I've gone closer to

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Speaker 1: On New Year's Day, my boyfriend now husband proposed to me,

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Speaker 1: so we had a small engagement party, which I invited

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Speaker 2: Wow, this is the wedding you choose to conscientiously eject from.

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Speaker 1: I never invited my stepdad or step siblings because they

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Speaker 1: were pretty hurtful when it came out that Ryan and

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Speaker 1: Kelly were sleeping together. They claimed it wasn't their fault

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Speaker 1: way of their true love. Never let your what is it?

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Speaker 1: Never let your stepsisterb me providing your Yeah they're.

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Speaker 3: Wrong, common dude.

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Speaker 1: They made me out to be some sort of vindictive

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Speaker 1: I started dating my mother's friend, but my friends think

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Speaker 3: it's frighten themental.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not too bad. But we have some comments.

435
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Speaker 1: Maybe they think differently. A commenter says, you're missing that

436
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:42,560
Speaker 1: no matter what you do. Judgmental people will judge you

437
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 1: for it. Go have fun on your dates. Yeah, I

438
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: think it's fine. I think it's fine. Opie says, You're right,

439
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:50,880
Speaker 1: people will judge over anything. I'm surprised my friends are

440
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Speaker 1: all against this, and I can't get a clear answer

441
00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:57,360
Speaker 1: as to why. Out of them, A commenter says, absolutely

442
00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,920
Speaker 1: not wrong. Your two adults. What's weird or wrong about?

443
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:03,960
Speaker 1: Parents have been playing matchmakers since time began? It's lovely

444
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,240
Speaker 1: that your mom introduced you and Nope says yeah, my

445
00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 1: mom loves being a matchmaker. She introduced my sister to

446
00:23:09,080 --> 00:23:11,000
Speaker 1: my brother in law and they are perfect for each other.

447
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:14,680
Speaker 1: You mom has got a track record. Who commenter says,

448
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:17,400
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily think it's wrong, but think about this.

449
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,280
Speaker 1: If things don't work out between you and Clara, be

450
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: it after a date or two, or even a messy

451
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:25,240
Speaker 1: breakup after a long term relationship, how will this affect

452
00:23:25,280 --> 00:23:27,960
Speaker 1: your relationship with your mom? She the type of person

453
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Speaker 1: to hold a grudge, choose her friends over you, try

454
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Speaker 1: and convince you to stay together. Also, if Clara and

455
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Speaker 1: your mom are good friends, how would you feel about

456
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Speaker 1: Clara sharing details about you in intimacy with your mom?

457
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Speaker 1: I mean one would pray, pray that Clara would have

458
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Speaker 1: the wherewithals to.

459
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Speaker 2: Not yeah, a little separation there, I think. Again, I don't.

460
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Speaker 2: I think they were. They became friends because of the matchmaking,

461
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Speaker 2: not because of like that.

462
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Speaker 1: This is some deep, deep friendship. Yeah yeah, or like

463
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Speaker 1: even if they didn't, I feel like she probably like

464
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Speaker 1: seized the opportunity and it was like, oh yeah, a

465
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Speaker 1: nice attractive young lady from my son. I don't think

466
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Speaker 1: it's an issue. Now. I'm not saying all this would happen,

467
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Speaker 1: but it is a possibility. Opie says. The potential issues

468
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Speaker 1: with a breakup and her being mom's friend are why

469
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Speaker 1: I was hesitant, But my mom and I spoke about it.

470
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Speaker 1: She assured me she wasn't worried and thinks that even

471
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Speaker 1: if things don't work out between Clara and I, everything

472
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 1: will be fine, and my mom would shut down any

473
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Speaker 1: attempt at mentioning him to busy with me. Thank God,

474
00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 1: she walked in on me and a girlfriend in high

475
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Speaker 1: school and that memory haunts both of us. Stay and

476
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Speaker 1: The top comment on the post from Buckworm thirteen twenty

477
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Speaker 1: four says, this isn't abnormal at all. Before online dating,

478
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Speaker 1: it wasn't uncommon for people to meet through family, friends

479
00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 1: or through people's parents other than you socially that were younger,

480
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Speaker 1: who had similar age kids they wanted to introduce their

481
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Speaker 1: child to, et cetera, et cetera. This is just a

482
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Speaker 1: long form version of that basically. Plus you don't have

483
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Speaker 1: to stress about her liking your mom if it gets serious,

484
00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:00,920
Speaker 1: true she already does. Sounds like a win. When and

485
00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 1: we have an update, I think something might go horribly wrong.

486
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:09,160
Speaker 2: I think they're gonna go get a happily ever after.

487
00:25:09,240 --> 00:25:12,640
Speaker 2: I think we got a little cougar, a little steed

488
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,200
Speaker 2: riding into the sunset.

489
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Speaker 1: Because usually because because hear me out here, right, So,

490
00:25:16,440 --> 00:25:21,199
Speaker 1: like the stories with like the most insane you know,

491
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Speaker 1: roller coaster nose dive openers, those are the ones that

492
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Speaker 1: can like end up the best at the end. Right,

493
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Speaker 1: We've been smooth sailing so far. Like it's just like

494
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Speaker 1: friends making some some comments off the side.

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Speaker 2: Like yeah, you're like, we're gonna we're about to take

496
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Speaker 2: the nose dive. If you haven't had a nose dive

497
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Speaker 2: in the beginning, you're gonna have it in the second half.

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Speaker 1: We've been we've been doing this. You know, when you

499
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Speaker 1: just climbing up the little wooden roller coaster. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's see update three days later for context. I am

501
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Speaker 1: thirty five mail. My date is forty three female. We

502
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Speaker 1: actually met because she's in a hobby group with my

503
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Speaker 1: mom and a courage to go out together to my

504
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Speaker 1: friends and their girlfriends did not approve when they found out.

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Speaker 1: At first, it was because she was a few years

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Speaker 1: older than me and because she's a friend of my mom's.

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Speaker 1: But after pointing out that our uh, that our age

508
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Speaker 1: of eight years is not a big gap, and my

509
00:26:09,119 --> 00:26:11,879
Speaker 1: mom was supportive, they just started calling it weird and

510
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:15,480
Speaker 1: creepy for me to date her. Eventually, after everyone else

511
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Speaker 1: I asked seem confused about the problem like I was,

512
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,440
Speaker 1: they came clean and admitted that they had been talking

513
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Speaker 1: to my ex that left me a year ago, and

514
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Speaker 1: she had been missing me. I knew there was something.

515
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Speaker 1: There was something. There was something.

516
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Speaker 2: Also, why does the ex just say something directly?

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah?

518
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Speaker 2: Why are you passing note so in fourth grade? Honestly,

519
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Speaker 2: I feel like OP needs someone more mature. Maybe eight

520
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Speaker 2: years older.

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00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:47,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe what's forty seven minus twenty seven? Twenty

522
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Speaker 1: years older?

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Speaker 3: W do you guys ever do that will you ask

524
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Speaker 3: your friend to ask out a girl for you?

525
00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:57,440
Speaker 2: Uh, like when I was in eighth grade, maybe yeah,

526
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Speaker 2: or like not ask.

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Speaker 1: Out but but like okay, you know that's again in

528
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Speaker 1: a hypothetical world, like you can have a homie like wing.

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00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:06,120
Speaker 3: Yeah.

530
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Speaker 2: Well I've definitely asked, like my sister like, hey, like

531
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Speaker 2: is this this person that you know, like like sets out.

532
00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:16,919
Speaker 2: The vibe is that it could there be a potential vibe. Yeah,

533
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:19,920
Speaker 2: And Sofia is usually like, I don't know, ask them,

534
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,720
Speaker 2: so fair, come on help my brother out. To be clear,

535
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:35,040
Speaker 2: she's been very helpful. She usually just says, nah, okay,

536
00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 2: it was great.

537
00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,080
Speaker 1: But so my ex is friends with the two disapproving girlfriends,

538
00:27:40,080 --> 00:27:42,640
Speaker 1: and they had all been planning to try and get

539
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,760
Speaker 1: us back together like some kind of ashy romance plot.

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00:27:46,280 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 1: My ex left me after we were together for a

541
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Speaker 1: year because she didn't feel right.

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Speaker 2: Oh feel right.

543
00:27:55,240 --> 00:27:57,159
Speaker 1: It hurt like heck at the time, but I've moved on.

544
00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,119
Speaker 1: I've run into her a few times, have been polite,

545
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Speaker 1: but I have no interest in a relationship or even

546
00:28:01,560 --> 00:28:04,359
Speaker 1: a friendship with her. She's not part of my life anymore,

547
00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 1: and I'm keeping it that way. My friends made me

548
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:09,320
Speaker 1: feel like I was crazy and weird for wanting to

549
00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:11,600
Speaker 1: go on a date with a woman I get along with.

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00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,679
Speaker 1: We've hung out a lot in other settings, just not

551
00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 1: a date yet. Also, they could try and force my

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00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 1: ex back into my life. X texted me this morning, Oh,

553
00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:24,000
Speaker 1: asking if we could meet up and talk, and I

554
00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,119
Speaker 1: told her that I wasn't interested in anything she'd have

555
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,560
Speaker 1: to say and I would like to keep my distance

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Speaker 1: from her. M Is that a fair response? Ah, I

557
00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 1: think you could.

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00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:40,560
Speaker 2: I think there's like maybe a nicer way of saying that,

559
00:28:42,840 --> 00:28:44,240
Speaker 2: but I think it's somewhat fair.

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00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think yeah, yeah, like UH could have had

561
00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 1: uh you know, yeah phrasing. But I feel like the

562
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,040
Speaker 1: general gist of it is like, yeah, hey, you hurt me,

563
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Speaker 1: and like I yeah.

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Speaker 2: Basically, I think like if I was to get if

565
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,520
Speaker 2: I was to think of the most empathetic thing to say, like, hey,

566
00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 2: appreciate you reaching out, but I just don't feel ready

567
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 2: for you to be back in my life right now.

568
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 2: I'll reach out if that ever changes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's nice. Yeah, but you kind of know what

570
00:29:12,400 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 3: her game is. She may have like got her little

571
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 3: goons together and said, hey, so here's the game plan

572
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:19,200
Speaker 3: to get them back in my life.

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00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, which is weird. Which is weird.

574
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Speaker 2: It's also are your goons? I think, like, like I

575
00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 2: feel like those friends are Are those friends your friends?

576
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Speaker 1: That's the are we gonna are we gonna end up

577
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Speaker 1: completely imploding because like it came from his two girlfriends.

578
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: What it was sounding like was it kind of was

579
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Speaker 1: like caing coalescing into a pressure from like all the

580
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Speaker 1: friend group, even if it wasn't like explicit. Yeah, yeah,

581
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 1: I know it.

582
00:29:48,080 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the friend group is like acting on behalf

583
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Speaker 2: of the X to maybe do things that are not

584
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Speaker 2: the best interest of op Yeah. So yeah, who are

585
00:29:56,560 --> 00:30:01,760
Speaker 2: you really friends with? Very weird, weird. It's oh at your.

586
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:06,640
Speaker 1: Mom's hobby club. Oh god. I'm also putting some distance

587
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: between my two friends who were playing along with the

588
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 1: girlfriend's stupid game. On the plus side, I'm really looking

589
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:14,640
Speaker 1: forward to our day tonight, dinner, drinks, and a walk

590
00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: through town to enjoy the nice weather that we're getting.

591
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,480
Speaker 1: And some of Opie's other comments, the top commenter says,

592
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Speaker 1: trying to manipulate you into a canceling a date because

593
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Speaker 1: they care more about the feelings of the girl that

594
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Speaker 1: dumped you doesn't really sound like something real friends would do.

595
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Speaker 1: They aren't my closest friends, so I'm strongly considering just

596
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 1: moving on from them completely. Commenter says nothing says cheat

597
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 1: on me more than taking back X. Oh god. Opie

598
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: says she wasn't a cheater, it just wasn't working out.

599
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Speaker 1: And we have another update that night. So this is

600
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Speaker 1: literally first one was three days later. Now it's literally

601
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Speaker 1: this the night of the same day. Okay, I want

602
00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:57,280
Speaker 1: to throw out the conspiracy theory. X is not taking

603
00:30:57,360 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: no for an answer and it's gonna go crash. The

604
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: eight crashes the date. Yo gets the intel from ragoons

605
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:06,560
Speaker 1: from her two little girlfriends, pulls up on the date

606
00:31:06,600 --> 00:31:09,200
Speaker 1: and is like, m why are you with my man?

607
00:31:10,760 --> 00:31:12,479
Speaker 1: And then she's like wait, what's going on? And then

608
00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:14,600
Speaker 1: she just like confuses, She's like, yeah, we've been dating.

609
00:31:14,600 --> 00:31:15,480
Speaker 1: Like look at all these pictures.

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00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:19,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I I feel like that is a worthy

611
00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: conspiracy theory. My my conspiracy theory on the other side

612
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:25,800
Speaker 2: is the date's gonna go super well and he's gonna

613
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Speaker 2: fall in love the cougar and the young buck. You're

614
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: gonna ride into the sunset. But one of those is

615
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 2: gonna happen. But I do think, uh, you know, set

616
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: boundary with X, and I think, uh uh OPI kind

617
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,920
Speaker 2: of already did that, but maybe not in like the

618
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 2: most empathetic way. And then I think also set boundaries

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Speaker 2: with friends. I don't know if I would completely cut off,

620
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:57,880
Speaker 2: but it would make me.

621
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Speaker 1: Want to hang out with them less.

622
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,960
Speaker 2: So I think again like a tear boundaries, like, hey, like,

623
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Speaker 2: I don't like that you were doing this. If we're

624
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,800
Speaker 2: gonna be friends, you can't try to manipulate me. But

625
00:32:05,920 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 2: also in saying that I would, I would probably just

626
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: distance myself more, especially if they're not like super close friends.

627
00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:16,280
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna pull you on me. You have

628
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: two two women who are your kind of friends with

629
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Speaker 1: but are not in the inner circle, right, so you

630
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,920
Speaker 1: see them at at the parties and they get togethers

631
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Speaker 1: and everything.

632
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Speaker 2: And they were trying to get me back with my ass.

633
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,720
Speaker 1: And they were trying to manipulate you into getting back

634
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:38,959
Speaker 1: together with your ex. Would you, you know gracefully? Essentially?

635
00:32:39,520 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: If so, I think what I would be do is like, hey, like,

636
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:45,960
Speaker 2: I don't I don't want you trying to I'm not

637
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Speaker 2: trying to get back together with my ex.

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00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: I don't want you to do that.

639
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I feel like it feels like you value

640
00:32:54,840 --> 00:33:02,280
Speaker 2: our friendship less by trying to do that. You're totally

641
00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:05,720
Speaker 2: invited to our potlucks or whatever. But I think I'm

642
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: gonna do a little space and that's communication. Thanks and gentlemen,

643
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:10,600
Speaker 2: I think that's what I would do. Hey, it's Sam.

644
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 2: We're go get back to the stories. But here's three

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Speaker 2: minutes of ads from our sponsors.

646
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Speaker 1: Well, we have the faded nights the date to update

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Speaker 1: number two. But I just got home. I did not

648
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Speaker 1: expect this much support. Figure out'd let anyone finding this

649
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Speaker 1: late checking back in now, the date went very well.

650
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Having had a first date go that well, I think ever,

651
00:33:29,160 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 1: to be honest, second date has already been planned. I'll

652
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 1: be cooking dinner and we'll be watching a few terrible

653
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:36,480
Speaker 1: movies that we both share a love for. As for

654
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 1: my crappy ex friends, I've already told them we're done

655
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:45,240
Speaker 1: being friends. Yeah, I understand that. Luckily they are part

656
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,959
Speaker 1: of a separate social circle from my main group of friends,

657
00:33:48,000 --> 00:33:51,040
Speaker 1: so it's a very easy breakup process from there. X

658
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,400
Speaker 1: did try calling me. I went ahead and blocked her

659
00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: everywhere I could think of, not letting those idiots ruin in. Otherwise,

660
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 1: amazing nights. Thanks again for event supportive for words. I

661
00:34:00,600 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 1: know I made the right call, but it's nice to

662
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:07,760
Speaker 1: be validated. You know. We have another update four days later. Wow,

663
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: there's got a lot more tension than it deserved. Came

664
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,360
Speaker 1: back to hundreds of messages and people wanting to know

665
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:14,400
Speaker 1: about date number two. It went just as well as

666
00:34:14,400 --> 00:34:16,400
Speaker 1: the first. I'd say I made chicken palm and she

667
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:20,240
Speaker 1: got my favorite sighter to drink. We watched Velociraptor because

668
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:22,560
Speaker 1: that movie is truly art at its finest. She's an

669
00:34:22,600 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: incredible woman, and now we're official, so I get to

670
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: brag about my awesome girlfriend to anyone who will listen

671
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:31,319
Speaker 1: to me. She's confidence, smart, funny, gorgeous, and she knows

672
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:35,640
Speaker 1: what she wants. She's very straightforward, which I appreciate. Obviously,

673
00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 1: it's way too early to tell what the future of

674
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: this relationship looks like, but for now, I'm happier than

675
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,279
Speaker 1: I've been in a very long time. Also, my mom

676
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 1: is smug ashack and teasing me relentlessly, but my girlfriend

677
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,759
Speaker 1: is getting it even worse because Mom and the girls

678
00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 1: from the hobby club are ganging up on her. It's

679
00:34:50,760 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 1: all in good fun. I just think they haven't had

680
00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: much new relationship gossip in a while. By the way,

681
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Speaker 1: if you want some other fun, wholesome new re relationship gossip,

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684
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Speaker 1: Top one hundred.

685
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686
00:35:16,480 --> 00:35:19,600
Speaker 2: Yesterday we hit ninety four on my ninety four That's

687
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688
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,920
Speaker 1: By the way, Global Podcasts on Apple. That's crazy, that's crazy,

689
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Speaker 1: that's banana. So shout out to you guys, and go

690
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Speaker 1: check out the pod. You know, there's some you know,

691
00:35:32,360 --> 00:35:35,040
Speaker 1: little uh raw on uncut a little bit, so I'll

692
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: let you check that out. Anyways, getting into the end

693
00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:41,479
Speaker 1: of this exitner friends and my two ex friends seem

694
00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:44,680
Speaker 1: to have accepted the breakup quote unquotes, and I don't

695
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 1: expect them to show up knocking on my door demanding

696
00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: we hang out or anything like that. Like a few

697
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 1: people suspected with those friends out of my life, I'm

698
00:35:52,360 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 1: no longer likely to even run into my ex as

699
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: I only ever saw her hanging out with those particular friends.

700
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,200
Speaker 1: Might see her at the store, but that's unlikely because

701
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: I go it odd hours to do my shopping. That's it,

702
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: no big friend drama. I'm happy, My girlfriend is happy,

703
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:10,600
Speaker 1: family and friends are happy. Life is gun. Thank you

704
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:12,560
Speaker 1: for listening to me yap about my love life on

705
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,000
Speaker 1: the tail end of the post that I wrote just

706
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 1: to work off Steve, and we're all happy. We're all happy.

707
00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:23,799
Speaker 2: I hope you have a long and prosperous relationship. Does

708
00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 2: our boy on Reddit? Is there any updates to this?

709
00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:29,759
Speaker 2: Is still a relationship that was everything. My friend tried

710
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 2: to control my wedding, but I'm not backing down.

711
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:35,960
Speaker 1: Stand up, don't say I do so.

712
00:36:36,160 --> 00:36:37,879
Speaker 2: I have a small group of friends that have been

713
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 2: my best friends for over a decade. But one member,

714
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 2: let's call her Chelsea, and I've always had some tension,

715
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,400
Speaker 2: but we were there for each other when it counted,

716
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 2: so I could always look past the stupid crap like

717
00:36:50,760 --> 00:36:54,480
Speaker 2: her immaturity or odd paranoia when it came to any

718
00:36:54,480 --> 00:36:56,560
Speaker 2: of us hanging out without her. By the way, this

719
00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:58,960
Speaker 2: comes from Sion Rose nineteen ninety one on the r

720
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:04,080
Speaker 2: slash Okay story time subreddits. So she was convinced that

721
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:07,440
Speaker 2: if we spent time without her there, we spent the

722
00:37:07,640 --> 00:37:12,880
Speaker 2: entire gathering talking bad about her. It sounds like she

723
00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:18,400
Speaker 2: might be a little insecure. Chelsea, get some self confidence.

724
00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 2: They're not talking about you, and maybe also, you're not

725
00:37:22,080 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 2: that important that everyone's going to be talking about you

726
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 2: all the time, which made little to no sense because

727
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 2: when we had something to say to her or about her,

728
00:37:31,120 --> 00:37:35,640
Speaker 2: we just told her, like, Chelsea, get a grip you got, bro,

729
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 2: We're not talking about you.

730
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 1: You're not that important. Get some self esteem. Be glad,

731
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:41,320
Speaker 1: but hi digress.

732
00:37:42,040 --> 00:37:44,360
Speaker 2: In March, at twenty twenty one, I got engaged to

733
00:37:44,360 --> 00:37:47,279
Speaker 2: my partner of six years, Woo, and of course I

734
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 2: asked my three best friends to be at my bridal party,

735
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,319
Speaker 2: including Chelsea, and we began the excited discussion of what

736
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: I want my wedding to look like and what bridal

737
00:37:57,360 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: party attire will be. And I look at Chelsea and

738
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 2: I say, I plan to have my brides maids in

739
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 2: floor length dark red gowns. But you guys can pick

740
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: whatever neckline you're comfortable with and what type of sleeves

741
00:38:11,680 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 2: you want if you want them?

742
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:13,480
Speaker 1: Is that?

743
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 2: Okay? I know you don't really do dresses, but now

744
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: we're going to get Chelsea's response. Chelsea says, no, that's fine.

745
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:27,240
Speaker 2: I actually love dresses, but I don't own any currently,

746
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 2: so I can't wear them.

747
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,640
Speaker 1: I don't own dresses, so I can't wear them. It

748
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: doesn't work me.

749
00:38:33,600 --> 00:38:36,480
Speaker 2: Oh okay, cool, and we move along. So it just

750
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 2: sounds like I don't wear it, but I will, I

751
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: will for you, I will for you, or.

752
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: I don't have any dresses in my closet, therefore it

753
00:38:46,280 --> 00:38:48,160
Speaker 1: is illegal for me to purchase the dress to wear.

754
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: I think it's the former.

755
00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 2: We'll see. So fast forward to February twenty twenty two. Well,

756
00:38:55,840 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 2: one day, she and I were hanging out at my

757
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:00,960
Speaker 2: house with my best friend, who up end to be

758
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:05,960
Speaker 2: Chelsea's significant other. Wait wait, your best friend is Chelsea's

759
00:39:05,960 --> 00:39:06,719
Speaker 2: significant other.

760
00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 1: Ooh, how close to friends are we talking? Oh, Beyonce.

761
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:17,360
Speaker 2: That was how Chelsea and I had become friends in

762
00:39:17,400 --> 00:39:21,440
Speaker 2: the first place. Okay, connected, And now years later, Chelsea's

763
00:39:21,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: significant other was my matron of honor and Chelsea was

764
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:28,600
Speaker 2: a bridesmaid, and we started talking about the wedding, and

765
00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 2: my best friend asked what they'd be wearing. Me, Well,

766
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 2: you'll be in a suit, but it'll be black with

767
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 2: red and silver accents, like we talked about a year ago.

768
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,920
Speaker 2: Not sure about the tiny details, but you'll be in

769
00:39:40,000 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 2: black because I want you to stand out as my

770
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,640
Speaker 2: matron of honor. And Mike, my other best friend, is

771
00:39:45,640 --> 00:39:48,040
Speaker 2: going to be in a red suit, the same color

772
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:52,280
Speaker 2: as the bride'smaid's dresses. A red suit kind of goes hard.

773
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:55,440
Speaker 1: That's a cool I'm actually loving the also dark red gowns,

774
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 1: super super classic. I like. I like.

775
00:39:58,040 --> 00:40:03,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, Chelsea and me too. Best friend. You two what, Chelsea,

776
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:04,840
Speaker 2: I'm going to be in a red suit?

777
00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:05,319
Speaker 1: Me?

778
00:40:05,960 --> 00:40:07,799
Speaker 2: No, Remember all the bridesmaids are going to be in

779
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 2: long red gowns. We talked about this when I first

780
00:40:10,480 --> 00:40:13,439
Speaker 2: asked you, Chelsea. No, I'm going to be in a suit.

781
00:40:13,880 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 2: Best friend, Chelsea, Chelsea, best friend, best friend, You're wearing

782
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:23,320
Speaker 2: a dress, Remember, Chelsea, Maybe I'm not comfortable wearing a

783
00:40:23,440 --> 00:40:26,800
Speaker 2: dress anymore. Me and best friend? When did things change?

784
00:40:26,920 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 2: This is Chelsea? You know what. I'm not arguing with

785
00:40:29,120 --> 00:40:31,600
Speaker 2: you about this. You don't even have a date yet,

786
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 2: not a date for the wedding A date, right, Well, I.

787
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 1: Guess a date me.

788
00:40:39,920 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 2: That has nothing to do with this. I've said over

789
00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,160
Speaker 2: and over I want my bridesmaids in long red gowns

790
00:40:46,200 --> 00:40:46,919
Speaker 2: for over a year.

791
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:47,600
Speaker 1: Now, what the hell?

792
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 2: Chelsea gets up and goes into my bathroom and stays

793
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,200
Speaker 2: there for forty five minutes, then comes out when it's

794
00:40:54,200 --> 00:40:56,479
Speaker 2: time to leave. So later that night I messaged Chelsea

795
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 2: privately to talk this out with her. I told her

796
00:40:59,680 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: that we have agreed on these gowns and it's what

797
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:06,560
Speaker 2: I wanted on my wedding day. This started a huge

798
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,800
Speaker 2: argument where Chelsea told me that it was a double

799
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:13,680
Speaker 2: standard to let my best friend wear suits and not

800
00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:16,960
Speaker 2: Chelsea how it was hurtful that I'd forced her to

801
00:41:16,960 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 2: wear a dress when she hates them, and then she

802
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:24,759
Speaker 2: hit me with So let me ask you this. If

803
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 2: I was trans or mask presenting, would you force me

804
00:41:28,120 --> 00:41:28,920
Speaker 2: to wear a dress?

805
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:33,560
Speaker 1: Then? Big question? Big question? Big question? What do you think?

806
00:41:33,560 --> 00:41:38,840
Speaker 2: What do you think is op being unreasonable by asking

807
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,160
Speaker 2: Chelsea to wear a dress or not?

808
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,800
Speaker 1: Let us know? Type in the comments below.

809
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:47,880
Speaker 2: I think if Chelsea had said something earlier, like a

810
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 2: year ago, maybe it would have been fine, I think

811
00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,200
Speaker 2: the key yeah, because the expectation was set, the can

812
00:41:52,239 --> 00:41:55,759
Speaker 2: you have expectation was set, and then now Op He's like,

813
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 2: well now I'm like completely confused and I've been like

814
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,480
Speaker 2: relying on this plan for a year.

815
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:02,360
Speaker 1: Yeah.

816
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 2: So so do you think Op's the a hole or

817
00:42:06,440 --> 00:42:07,319
Speaker 2: Chelsea's the a hole?

818
00:42:07,400 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 1: Right now? I would say I would say Chelsea is

819
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 1: the ahle, although ultimately I don't know if like uh,

820
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:19,719
Speaker 1: Op can like force her to wear a dress, but

821
00:42:19,840 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: I would say that Chelsea is the a hole for

822
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 1: you know, not kind of like it's okay if she

823
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: changes her mind, but the way she's going about I

824
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: think it's a completely wrong way. Yeah. I mean I

825
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: think I think like.

826
00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 2: If I was if I was the bride, who if

827
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:41,280
Speaker 2: I was a bride, I don't know if I would

828
00:42:42,719 --> 00:42:45,759
Speaker 2: and I had a mixed set of people being like

829
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:49,320
Speaker 2: bridesmaids and grooms men, kind of like on my side,

830
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 2: I would pro and I allowed some to wear red

831
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:59,080
Speaker 2: suits and then the others to wear red dresses. I

832
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:00,920
Speaker 2: think I would just want every and looking good together.

833
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 2: But I don't know if I would care if like

834
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:06,320
Speaker 2: one of the women was wearing a suit or a

835
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 2: dress as long as it like fit the color scheme.

836
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:11,280
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would try to force someone

837
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:14,840
Speaker 2: into it. But also on the flip side, if I

838
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 2: was told to like wear a suit and the I

839
00:43:19,440 --> 00:43:20,719
Speaker 2: only have to wear a suit, then I think that

840
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 2: would be okay with that, And.

841
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:24,759
Speaker 1: I think I think Op can. Maybe I'm curious at

842
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,600
Speaker 1: this is the heat of the moment. What happens like

843
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,880
Speaker 1: after you know, the dust the dust settles.

844
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm right right. As of right now, I'm feeling

845
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,919
Speaker 2: like everyone's an a hole right here, Like, but Op

846
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,680
Speaker 2: is less than an a hole, uh for forcing, and

847
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:43,839
Speaker 2: I think Chelsea's more of an a hole for like

848
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 2: making this the whole thing.

849
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:48,600
Speaker 1: I'm curious. Maybe I'm assuming that she won't ultimately, uh

850
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,359
Speaker 1: like try to force her to do it. If if

851
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: she did, yeah, that would be me.

852
00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: Well, if you were trans or a mask presenting, I

853
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:02,399
Speaker 2: wouldn't have asked you to be a bride's maid at all.

854
00:44:02,880 --> 00:44:05,719
Speaker 2: If anything, I'd ask fiance if you could be a

855
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:09,000
Speaker 2: grooms man. And my logic for that was calling a

856
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 2: trans man a bridesmaid would be disrespectful at least that's

857
00:44:13,320 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: how I feel personally. And for the record, we asked

858
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 2: Chelsea if she was questioning her gender identity or if

859
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,160
Speaker 2: she was actually trans, and she told us a resounding no,

860
00:44:21,680 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 2: she was solidly as cists gendered woman. Therefore, she was

861
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: trying to use the struggles of trans people to make

862
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,879
Speaker 2: me think I was being horrible and guilt me into

863
00:44:29,880 --> 00:44:33,840
Speaker 2: giving her her own way. She even got more angry

864
00:44:34,120 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 2: that I would make an exception for that but not

865
00:44:36,520 --> 00:44:39,200
Speaker 2: for her, and that my asking her to wear a

866
00:44:39,360 --> 00:44:41,919
Speaker 2: dress was the same thing as saying I hate chick

867
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 2: fil as homophobic practices, but give them my money anyway

868
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: because the chicken tastes good, to which I responded, I'm

869
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:52,760
Speaker 2: going to make the argument that they are nothing alike,

870
00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 2: and one is objectively worse because one is funding a

871
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:59,439
Speaker 2: company who wants to eradicate an entire community people because

872
00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:02,839
Speaker 2: of who they The other is me saying I would

873
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,319
Speaker 2: like to wear a dress if you want to be

874
00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: in my bridal party, and if you refuse, that's okay,

875
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 2: but you'll be a guest instead. I still want you

876
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:12,000
Speaker 2: there and in my photos and stuff.

877
00:45:12,440 --> 00:45:17,680
Speaker 1: So yeah, I will say I am now that I

878
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319
Speaker 1: see op like continuing you stick to the guns, I'm like,

879
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: and again you know people's weddings, you know, should they

880
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,640
Speaker 1: should basically be able to do what they want. Yeah,

881
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 1: and everything, But I am also like, what's wrong with

882
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 1: the with the suit? Like it sounds like it's like

883
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:35,840
Speaker 1: you got a whole great vision for people who have

884
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:38,880
Speaker 1: suits and dresses, So like, why not I don't know.

885
00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm uh, yeah, I'm a little I'm a little confused.

886
00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:46,920
Speaker 2: I'm a little confused. I'm a little confused. Chelsea needs therapy. Yeah,

887
00:45:47,000 --> 00:45:50,640
Speaker 2: I think also Op is pushing it a little bit hard. Yeah,

888
00:45:50,680 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 2: so let's keep going. John here og host.

889
00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:54,439
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to these stories, but a quick

890
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:56,399
Speaker 1: three minute break from ass from our sponsors.

891
00:45:56,880 --> 00:45:58,680
Speaker 2: We went back and forth, and I continue to tell

892
00:45:58,719 --> 00:46:01,320
Speaker 2: her that I am allowed to want what I want

893
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 2: for my wedding and there's nothing wrong with that. And

894
00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:05,720
Speaker 2: then if she didn't want to abide by the dress code,

895
00:46:05,840 --> 00:46:08,439
Speaker 2: then I understand and that's okay, but that will mean

896
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:10,640
Speaker 2: she'll be a guest at my wedding. She is still

897
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 2: wanted and welcome, and she will be front row in

898
00:46:12,719 --> 00:46:15,160
Speaker 2: my photos. And then she told me, well, I thought

899
00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,719
Speaker 2: you understanding that would mean that what I want and

900
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:23,120
Speaker 2: my comfort level would mean more to you than what

901
00:46:23,160 --> 00:46:25,840
Speaker 2: you deem acceptable attire at your wedding. At that point,

902
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:27,520
Speaker 2: I told her that she could let me know what

903
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:30,640
Speaker 2: she decided. Either she was a bridesmaid or she wasn't,

904
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:32,960
Speaker 2: but regardless, I love her and I just wanted to

905
00:46:33,000 --> 00:46:37,359
Speaker 2: squash this that we could move on. And her response was,

906
00:46:37,600 --> 00:46:39,600
Speaker 2: you really don't want me to make a decision with

907
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,360
Speaker 2: the current headspace I'm in, So I told her, I

908
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,040
Speaker 2: don't see why not. The options are wear address and

909
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:48,040
Speaker 2: stand up at wedding or where whatever you want and

910
00:46:48,080 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 2: be an honored guest. The choice isn't wear the dress

911
00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:59,960
Speaker 2: or we aren't friends anymore. Yes, but it's like it's

912
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,280
Speaker 2: going to hurt your it is gonna hurt your friendship.

913
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:06,680
Speaker 1: Yeah. I feel I feel like op is like miss

914
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:10,480
Speaker 1: really missing the point and just like painting something in

915
00:47:10,520 --> 00:47:14,720
Speaker 1: this like very black and white thing where it's like, yeah,

916
00:47:14,719 --> 00:47:16,480
Speaker 1: well we'll make like you know what I think is

917
00:47:16,520 --> 00:47:22,560
Speaker 1: totally reasonable. Uh that Claire right is the friend Chelsea? Chelsea? Uh,

918
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:26,320
Speaker 1: that Chelsea is like, hey, you know what, I honestly

919
00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: I changed my mind. I don't know if I feel

920
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:32,799
Speaker 1: comfortable in that anymore. And being like yeah, like at

921
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:35,560
Speaker 1: least even if you don't acquiesce to that being like,

922
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:39,480
Speaker 1: you know what, I understand, you know, but this is

923
00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:41,359
Speaker 1: my wedding and I do just kind of want that

924
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:45,120
Speaker 1: vibe of like the all dresses like thing is what

925
00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 1: I'm looking for. I don't know, what do you think?

926
00:47:47,880 --> 00:47:50,480
Speaker 1: I mean? It feels like I feel like both of

927
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,920
Speaker 1: them are sticking to things that don't matter. Yes, there,

928
00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: and that's why I was.

929
00:47:54,560 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 2: Getting into this place, because they're both like being like

930
00:47:57,520 --> 00:47:58,319
Speaker 2: a holes about it.

931
00:47:58,320 --> 00:48:00,319
Speaker 1: They're just trying to twist the knife only each other.

932
00:48:00,320 --> 00:48:02,239
Speaker 1: It's not it doesn't feel like it's actually about the

933
00:48:02,280 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: things they're talking about. They're just trying to kind of

934
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,879
Speaker 1: like pedily twist the knife on each other.

935
00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:12,280
Speaker 2: So I almost typed. And I don't appreciate the thinly

936
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:15,000
Speaker 2: veiled threat that is, but I know that would just

937
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,319
Speaker 2: drag this out and I wanted it over. And she said,

938
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:18,920
Speaker 2: if you change your mind, you know where I am,

939
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:22,319
Speaker 2: or something equally noncommittal to making a decision. So I

940
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,759
Speaker 2: told her that I will accept this as I appreciate

941
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 2: the offer, but I won't be a bridesmaid and will

942
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,279
Speaker 2: instead be a guest and now we can move on.

943
00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:33,000
Speaker 2: I left it at that and we seemingly moved on

944
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 2: and honestly in full disclosure, had Chelsea come to me

945
00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,960
Speaker 2: and said, hey, about the dress thing, I'm not going

946
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 2: to be comfortable in addressed anymore? Who we explore other

947
00:48:40,560 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: options for my bridal party attire, like a suit. I

948
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:50,880
Speaker 2: would have said yes because it was approached respectfully, but

949
00:48:51,000 --> 00:48:54,160
Speaker 2: she decided to try to convince me I was actually

950
00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:59,120
Speaker 2: transphobic and as bad as people who wanted a LGBTQ

951
00:48:59,719 --> 00:49:03,400
Speaker 2: her to occur because she wasn't getting her way and

952
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:07,279
Speaker 2: she wanted to guilt me into giving her way. So no,

953
00:49:07,640 --> 00:49:09,800
Speaker 2: and we do have an update. Do have an update,

954
00:49:10,400 --> 00:49:16,480
Speaker 2: but really quick. I know we're getting absolutely shadow by

955
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:21,000
Speaker 2: chat right now. Yes, but does that not show you

956
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:22,879
Speaker 2: she's being a little bit of the A hole.

957
00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: Oh like like the fact that she's like, I'm actually

958
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:29,640
Speaker 1: open to it, but I.

959
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 2: I'm open, but I don't like how she I don't

960
00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:34,000
Speaker 2: but I don't like how she asked me if I'm

961
00:49:34,000 --> 00:49:35,840
Speaker 2: not going. She didn't ask me respectfully, so I'm not

962
00:49:35,880 --> 00:49:36,400
Speaker 2: gonna do it.

963
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 1: I mean, I wonder here's.

964
00:49:38,080 --> 00:49:38,839
Speaker 2: Which I guess is?

965
00:49:38,880 --> 00:49:40,239
Speaker 1: You know, I don't know.

966
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:42,560
Speaker 2: I feel like that is like a little little a

967
00:49:42,719 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 2: holy you know, let.

968
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:47,799
Speaker 1: Me let me ask this if she's like essentially like, hey,

969
00:49:47,840 --> 00:49:50,560
Speaker 1: she's being difficult in a way that's just kind of

970
00:49:50,600 --> 00:49:55,840
Speaker 1: like ruining the dress and suit situation aside, She's like

971
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: kind of bringing this this negative energy and stress to

972
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:04,120
Speaker 1: my bridal party. If that's a reason too, Like, that's

973
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 1: a great reason. Yeah, and that's a great reason. I'm

974
00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:10,520
Speaker 1: honestly like like going to me like, hey, like I'm

975
00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:13,040
Speaker 1: just like trying to if it's already stressful and I

976
00:50:13,160 --> 00:50:16,560
Speaker 1: kind of just you know, want to like like feel

977
00:50:16,680 --> 00:50:19,000
Speaker 1: feel at peace, and you're kind of just stressing me out,

978
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 1: I'm gonna have to respectfully, yeah, you know. And I

979
00:50:25,480 --> 00:50:27,240
Speaker 1: that back from the bridal party.

980
00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:29,560
Speaker 2: I I think if that was the answer that we

981
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,919
Speaker 2: were just given, I would be like, okay, like that's

982
00:50:31,960 --> 00:50:35,680
Speaker 2: totally understandable. But what it feels like is it's like

983
00:50:35,760 --> 00:50:38,640
Speaker 2: you didn't ask me in a nice way. There feels

984
00:50:38,640 --> 00:50:42,399
Speaker 2: like a little bit of pettiness. Yeah, it feels like, oh,

985
00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:46,239
Speaker 2: p actually doesn't care about the dress. What she's what

986
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:48,560
Speaker 2: she's saying is like I would be okay with a suit,

987
00:50:48,760 --> 00:50:51,279
Speaker 2: but she didn't ask me in a nice enough way. Yeah, right,

988
00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 2: and like, I think that is we want everyone to

989
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:59,040
Speaker 2: be respectful to us, obviously, but and when people are

990
00:50:59,080 --> 00:51:05,719
Speaker 2: respectful to us, we generally are more We're we're more

991
00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: willing to do the things that they ask. But if

992
00:51:08,520 --> 00:51:11,560
Speaker 2: we're just being like using our power to kind of

993
00:51:11,600 --> 00:51:13,919
Speaker 2: put someone in their place when they're not respectful to us,

994
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,799
Speaker 2: I feel and that's the only reason rather than what

995
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:20,560
Speaker 2: John said about like the vibe the wedding being off,

996
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:21,920
Speaker 2: Like I feel like that.

997
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:24,640
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like. I think that reasoning is

998
00:51:24,680 --> 00:51:25,280
Speaker 1: a little whack.

999
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:27,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, And I don't think it's very empathetic and I

1000
00:51:27,640 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 2: don't think it's very kind.

1001
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:31,879
Speaker 1: Yeah. And at the end of the day, I think

1002
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:35,000
Speaker 1: Op is entitled to do whatever she wants with her

1003
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:38,000
Speaker 1: wedding and and for her, like, is it not better

1004
00:51:38,040 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 1: to like, honestly, at this point, do we think Chelsea

1005
00:51:41,480 --> 00:51:43,880
Speaker 1: is going to make the wedding a better experience for

1006
00:51:43,920 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: Op and the other people there? No, I would say no.

1007
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: So I would be like, let's just get Chelsea out

1008
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,320
Speaker 1: of the wedding. Yeah, period, because you're ruining the vibe.

1009
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:57,440
Speaker 2: I think again, Chelsea I think is an a hole. Yeah.

1010
00:51:57,520 --> 00:52:02,360
Speaker 2: I think Ope's behavior may have turned up the a

1011
00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: wholeness of Chelsea because she was kind of given some

1012
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:08,239
Speaker 2: of that same energy back. And I think from a

1013
00:52:08,280 --> 00:52:13,719
Speaker 2: self preservation standpoint, if she was maybe a little a

1014
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,000
Speaker 2: little bit more nuanced in her approach, it might have

1015
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:20,400
Speaker 2: been easier. Yeah. I don't know what, Yeah, I do.

1016
00:52:20,560 --> 00:52:21,279
Speaker 2: What do you agree with that?

1017
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,880
Speaker 1: Uh? So where do you disagree? I think? Uh? I

1018
00:52:25,880 --> 00:52:27,480
Speaker 1: don't know if I yeah, I think I think there

1019
00:52:27,560 --> 00:52:30,319
Speaker 1: was basically some some some pettiness there. Yeah, And it's

1020
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: like like there there there's some times where it's like

1021
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:37,320
Speaker 1: you could you could have like the the more petty

1022
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,920
Speaker 1: interaction or on the flip side, it's like, okay, let

1023
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:42,120
Speaker 1: me just directly communicate with you. And again it's like

1024
00:52:42,600 --> 00:52:45,839
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, not only are we uh not going

1025
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 1: to give Chelsea and not that that's the phrasing about

1026
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:50,520
Speaker 1: just to say it, not only we're not we're going

1027
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:54,000
Speaker 1: to give Chelsea uh the option to not wear the dress,

1028
00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:56,360
Speaker 1: but also I just have her not attend the wedding,

1029
00:52:56,719 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 1: not because we want to like be petty, but to

1030
00:53:00,239 --> 00:53:03,000
Speaker 1: protect your piece. If Chelsea is really like doing this

1031
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: as a a power play or to frustrate you and

1032
00:53:06,320 --> 00:53:07,440
Speaker 1: like all of that kind of stuff, And.

1033
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:11,880
Speaker 2: Again in this sentence here had Chelsea come to me

1034
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:13,400
Speaker 2: and said, Hey, about the dressing, I'm not going to

1035
00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,000
Speaker 2: be comfortable in address anymore. I believe Chelsea did say,

1036
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:21,480
Speaker 2: like I wasn't comfortable in address, yes, So like you

1037
00:53:21,480 --> 00:53:23,920
Speaker 2: could preempt this whole thing and be like, hey, are

1038
00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:25,719
Speaker 2: you not comfortable, like I could help you out, yeah,

1039
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:29,239
Speaker 2: instead of giving her the same energy back. But we're

1040
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:32,640
Speaker 2: going to go into the rest of the story. So update.

1041
00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:35,840
Speaker 2: So we decided to wait until we got out of

1042
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: debt and got more financially stable. So it's still November one,

1043
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:42,160
Speaker 2: the wedding, but the year is not set in stone yet.

1044
00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 2: We're currently still not married because we decided buying a

1045
00:53:44,760 --> 00:53:47,040
Speaker 2: house was more important than a wedding, but we still

1046
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,960
Speaker 2: fully planned to have one, and my fiance actually wants

1047
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:52,000
Speaker 2: the fancy wedding just as much as I do, so

1048
00:53:52,040 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 2: we're both willing to wait. Chelsea knew we had a date,

1049
00:53:54,760 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 2: and she knew we had decided to wait for the

1050
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 2: above reasons. After a while, anyway, in twenty twenty one,

1051
00:53:59,600 --> 00:54:01,319
Speaker 2: I lost my grandmother, who was one of the most

1052
00:54:01,320 --> 00:54:03,279
Speaker 2: important people in my life. Then less than a year

1053
00:54:03,320 --> 00:54:06,600
Speaker 2: I lost my grandfather, lost a couple of cousins and

1054
00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,960
Speaker 2: an uncle, and my niece who I helped raise and loves.

1055
00:54:09,960 --> 00:54:14,440
Speaker 2: My own child ended up in mental faculties for self

1056
00:54:14,480 --> 00:54:20,240
Speaker 2: harm and unliving behavior. So I was perpetually mourning depressed

1057
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:22,799
Speaker 2: for like two years straight and this cycle has an

1058
00:54:22,920 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 2: ended to this day. A couple months ago, I lost

1059
00:54:25,120 --> 00:54:27,640
Speaker 2: a good friend to a heart condition. Oh it's been

1060
00:54:27,640 --> 00:54:30,160
Speaker 2: a lot. Chelsea decided to ask my best friend for

1061
00:54:30,560 --> 00:54:34,359
Speaker 2: a divorce and resulted in novella of lying, gas lighting,

1062
00:54:34,400 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 2: and manipulation that ended up affecting all of us because

1063
00:54:36,600 --> 00:54:40,040
Speaker 2: Chelsea left my best friend, then got back with her,

1064
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,239
Speaker 2: started arguments with my best friend over me, accused my

1065
00:54:44,320 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 2: best friend and I of having an affair, and recorded

1066
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:49,319
Speaker 2: a private conversation we had so she could play it

1067
00:54:49,360 --> 00:54:51,400
Speaker 2: for a friend of hers who did not like me

1068
00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:54,680
Speaker 2: and who I also don't like because said friendship was

1069
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:58,040
Speaker 2: kind of to my face. Then mocked my relationship, my

1070
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,319
Speaker 2: partner a medical condition I have most recently my job

1071
00:55:01,400 --> 00:55:08,759
Speaker 2: behind my back. That friend is also narcissistic. Again, I'm

1072
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:12,080
Speaker 2: getting like, I don't know, Like is this your Like

1073
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: you say this person's your friend, but you're talking terribly

1074
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:15,040
Speaker 2: about them.

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Speaker 1: Well, so here's my question. Now, So this is like

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Speaker 1: I feel like we got the tip of the iceberg

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Speaker 1: with Chelsea. Now. It's like Chelsea was, uh, it was

1078
00:55:23,600 --> 00:55:25,800
Speaker 1: going crazy and trying to like accuse Op of like

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00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:29,560
Speaker 1: cheating with their partner and all this. I'm like, why,

1080
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,320
Speaker 1: why not only why did Chelsea get a wedding invite?

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00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,719
Speaker 1: Why did Chelsea get invited to?

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00:55:33,880 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 2: And why are you still hanging out with her? Yeah,

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00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 2: it sounds like you're just hanging out with toxic people.

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00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:40,239
Speaker 1: Like, like I would say to Op, it's like, you're

1085
00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:44,200
Speaker 1: you're holy entitled to not have to like invite them

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00:55:44,239 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: to the wedding or to the bridal party, So why not?

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00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 1: Why not protect your peace? And yeah?

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00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:53,600
Speaker 2: Oh, and she flew to another state to spend days

1089
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,839
Speaker 2: with another woman to lie to all of us about it,

1090
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:58,279
Speaker 2: to which she says that she and the other woman

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00:55:58,280 --> 00:56:00,200
Speaker 2: are just friends and it wasn't a fair. Those were

1092
00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 2: the final straws for me. I was also already spiraling

1093
00:56:02,640 --> 00:56:05,200
Speaker 2: downward mentally. My fiance even told me he was worried

1094
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,520
Speaker 2: I was going to hurt myself because I was getting

1095
00:56:07,560 --> 00:56:10,760
Speaker 2: so bad. And I ended our friendship, probably for the best.

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00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 2: After I did, she admitted to my other best friend

1097
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,080
Speaker 2: that she knew I'd never had an affair with her wife.

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00:56:17,239 --> 00:56:20,319
Speaker 2: She just said it to hurt us, essentially because we'd

1099
00:56:20,320 --> 00:56:23,319
Speaker 2: accused her of having one with a woman she had

1100
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:26,440
Speaker 2: lied about flying to another state spend time with in secret.

1101
00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:29,520
Speaker 2: My best friend and Chelsea are no longer together, and

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00:56:29,560 --> 00:56:31,920
Speaker 2: in all honesty, I had started seeing a change in

1103
00:56:31,960 --> 00:56:34,640
Speaker 2: her on twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, change I didn't like.

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00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:37,080
Speaker 2: But when my grandma passed away in June of twenty

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00:56:37,120 --> 00:56:39,440
Speaker 2: twenty one, I stopped caring because I needed my friends

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00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:42,560
Speaker 2: support just to keep living. Twenty twenty three and I

1107
00:56:42,600 --> 00:56:44,719
Speaker 2: still have crying fits over my grandmother because we were

1108
00:56:44,719 --> 00:56:47,600
Speaker 2: so close. So this loss was profound, and dealing with

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00:56:47,640 --> 00:56:50,120
Speaker 2: Chelsea's drama on top of everything was not something I

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00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 2: could do. I would like to add that Chelsea has

1111
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,040
Speaker 2: good qualities. Like any person, she could be kind and caring.

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00:56:55,040 --> 00:56:58,400
Speaker 2: At one point, she was absolutely a wonderful friend. I

1113
00:56:58,440 --> 00:57:01,640
Speaker 2: can't say why she changed for certain, as she refused

1114
00:57:01,640 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 2: to speak to me after she left my best friend.

1115
00:57:03,960 --> 00:57:06,719
Speaker 2: There are, of course, details about her and best friend

1116
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,440
Speaker 2: I've glossed over or left out because those are just

1117
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:14,000
Speaker 2: their stories. But this is pretty strictly just experiences pertaining

1118
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,080
Speaker 2: to me and what I experienced Specifically. Best friend is

1119
00:57:17,080 --> 00:57:19,360
Speaker 2: doing better and while I'm still dealing with things. My

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00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:22,320
Speaker 2: fiance and I couldn't love each other more if we tried,

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00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 2: and my best friend and I are closer than ever.

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00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:27,320
Speaker 2: We're very supportive of each other during the current mental

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00:57:27,320 --> 00:57:29,920
Speaker 2: and physical health journeys. My best friend is looking forward

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00:57:30,160 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 2: to my wedding whenever it takes place.

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Speaker 1: Edit.

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00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:35,440
Speaker 2: I got my revenge by getting married without her in

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00:57:35,440 --> 00:57:37,360
Speaker 2: my life. My husband and I found out his mom

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00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:40,000
Speaker 2: had stage four lung cancer, so we decided to do

1129
00:57:40,000 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 2: a small, intimate wedding with just family and bridal party

1130
00:57:42,800 --> 00:57:45,400
Speaker 2: instead of saving for a big, expensive goth fantasy that

1131
00:57:45,440 --> 00:57:48,240
Speaker 2: we wanted. I went from gothic beauty to dark romance

1132
00:57:48,320 --> 00:57:52,120
Speaker 2: and rustic. She and one of her friends stock or socials.

1133
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,280
Speaker 2: So I posted photos on my beautiful day with my

1134
00:57:54,280 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: beautiful bridesmaids in their gorgeous red dresses, my bride's man

1135
00:57:58,360 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 2: in his red suit in my maid of honor, and

1136
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:04,120
Speaker 2: all black with a dark red blouse. By the way,

1137
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Speaker 2: you can listen to full episodes with stories just like this.

1138
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Speaker 2: Go to Spotify, Apple Podcasts, or your favorite podcast app

1139
00:58:09,080 --> 00:58:12,160
Speaker 2: and search. Okay, storytime, there's another relevant update and I'm

1140
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:14,400
Speaker 2: gonna go straight into it, unless John, you have anything

1141
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:15,000
Speaker 2: you like?

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Speaker 1: Dad, what do you have talked to me?

1143
00:58:17,080 --> 00:58:21,760
Speaker 3: So Opie was friends with this girl after her grandma

1144
00:58:21,840 --> 00:58:25,320
Speaker 3: died because she needed, you know, friends support.

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00:58:25,600 --> 00:58:28,000
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think it's one of those situations where it's

1146
00:58:28,040 --> 00:58:31,360
Speaker 1: like Opie was going through like a lot in her

1147
00:58:31,440 --> 00:58:35,040
Speaker 1: life and she's just like, I will take whoever's around

1148
00:58:35,080 --> 00:58:39,080
Speaker 1: to try to help fill that like emotional hole in

1149
00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:42,560
Speaker 1: her hearts. Therefore, Chelsea was just kind of like around,

1150
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:45,080
Speaker 1: even though Chelsea, it seemed, was just like a little

1151
00:58:45,080 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: little cuckoo for Coco puffs and not at all the

1152
00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:51,960
Speaker 1: best friends. And that that carried all the way into

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00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:56,320
Speaker 1: the invites and the bridal party, which again I would

1154
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:59,320
Speaker 1: say that Opie was entitled to not have to invite

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00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: her to the wedding in the first place.

1156
00:59:01,240 --> 00:59:05,200
Speaker 2: So again, Chelsea a hole for sure. Chelsea a hole

1157
00:59:05,240 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 2: for sure. I think maybe my designation for op is

1158
00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,840
Speaker 2: could have handled it better, but overall not totally an

1159
00:59:17,840 --> 00:59:21,800
Speaker 2: a hole, but could have handled it better. I would agree,

1160
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Speaker 2: but let me know if you think I'm wrong.

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00:59:23,880 --> 00:59:24,520
Speaker 1: I know you will.

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00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 2: My husband, I had an amazing day, and Chelsea never

1163
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:30,080
Speaker 2: crossed my mind once I got the wedding she wishes

1164
00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,600
Speaker 2: she could have had, and I have the healthy relationship

1165
00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,720
Speaker 2: she wishes she could have had, and I got to

1166
00:59:34,760 --> 00:59:37,000
Speaker 2: share it with my closest friends and family members. My

1167
00:59:37,160 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 2: husband is an amazing person and he felt just as

1168
00:59:39,640 --> 00:59:41,960
Speaker 2: amazing as I did that day. I love him so much,

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00:59:42,000 --> 00:59:44,440
Speaker 2: and we got an amazing photographer so he would have

1170
00:59:44,520 --> 00:59:47,880
Speaker 2: excellent photos of our day and his mom in particular.

1171
00:59:48,200 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 2: It was a big deal to me that the photographer

1172
00:59:50,280 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: took extra care to photograph my husband and his mom

1173
00:59:53,160 --> 00:59:56,040
Speaker 2: and siblings together. And no matter what, Chelsea can't take

1174
00:59:56,080 --> 00:59:58,960
Speaker 2: this from us. She never could have because I have

1175
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,960
Speaker 2: my loved ones there and that's what matters. My best

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01:00:02,040 --> 01:00:05,560
Speaker 2: revenge will always be being happy and loved and loving

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01:00:05,600 --> 01:00:10,360
Speaker 2: my husband and family in return, and that's where it ends.

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Speaker 1: It is. I like our last line, but with that,

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01:00:13,040 --> 01:00:14,800
Speaker 1: I think that is a rap.

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01:00:14,920 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 2: Yes, sir, so if you love us, make sure to

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Speaker 2: subscribe We love you, and see it tomorrow.