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Speaker 1: the Drive. I'm DaLie Lolly here with Matt Williamson. It's

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Speaker 1: a Friday here in Pittsburgh. The owners meetings have wrapped up.

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Speaker 1: It's also April one, which means it's draft month. And

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Speaker 1: uh well, Matt, things are Things are happening once again,

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Speaker 1: the Steelers making another signing on Thursday, bringing back Karl Joseph. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I guess it's April fools Day. Huh. Nobody's fooled be

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Speaker 1: yet today as far as I know. So you're on

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Speaker 1: with me. So there you go, two fools. What's your

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Speaker 1: take on Joseph I really, I mean, this is ancient history,

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Speaker 1: but I really liked him. Coming out of West Virginia

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Speaker 1: is like a Bob Sanders throw your body around, good

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Speaker 1: forty time explosive short, you know. And I think that's

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Speaker 1: hurt him in the tight end matchup world. And these

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Speaker 1: they know a lot about him. And I think he's

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Speaker 1: you know that they're they're basically renting him again for

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Speaker 1: the year. But he spent last year on the practice squad. Uh,

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Speaker 1: recovering his basis. If they don't sign anybody else before

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Speaker 1: the draft at strong safety, they've got a guy who

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Speaker 1: has started games in the NFL and strong safety exactly

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Speaker 1: exactly a lot of games actually a lot of games. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's almost fifty starts. So and if that's your weakest

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Speaker 1: then you probably and you probably outdraft them, you know that,

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Speaker 1: Um you know, with the expanded practice squads, if he

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Speaker 1: him on your practice squad and he gets again a

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Speaker 1: speaking for you here a little bit, but I'm curious

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Speaker 1: it's just been kind of a depressed safety market, and

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Speaker 1: you know, the original market value on Tyran math On

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Speaker 1: getting that at this point. No. I bet he signs

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Speaker 1: That was the biggest safety deal given out last year.

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Speaker 1: Ray Shawn Jenkins got eight point seven five million dollars

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Speaker 1: mean these were all that there weren't big money deals

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Speaker 1: been a while. I mean, to be honest with you,

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Speaker 1: Steelers to sign Jordan's whitehead. He got two years. He's

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Speaker 1: more than It's probably more than what the Steelers wanted

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Speaker 1: plus fifteen to make it, I haven't even given making

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Speaker 1: his contract my thought. Do you want twenty million and safeties? Right?

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Speaker 1: How you see things true. And he's also a long strider.

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Speaker 1: Maybe he's not built for track because you were right,

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Speaker 1: but you don't think, boy, this guy he's also six

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Speaker 1: like if this was five years ago and I didn't

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Speaker 1: and I'm with you though the veterans currently available, and

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Speaker 1: wouldn't lose any sleepover no, no, I mean these guys

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Speaker 1: Brown or DK met Calf. They're different than Adams and

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