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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Buck Sexton and you're listening to the

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Speaker 1: Tutor Dixon Podcast, part of the Clay Travers and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton podcast Network.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the Tutor Dixon Podcast. We have so much

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Speaker 2: going on in DC these days, between fire alarms, carjackings,

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Speaker 2: and now a fight to ouse the speaker, it's hard

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Speaker 2: to know where to start. But fortunately today we have

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Speaker 2: New York GOP Congresswoman Nicole mall O'takis, representing New York's

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Speaker 2: eleventh congressional district, here with us today to break it

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Speaker 2: all down.

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Speaker 1: Congresswoman, welcome, it's great to be with you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm so grateful you're here.

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Speaker 2: First, before we get into any of the other stuff

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Speaker 2: curious as to what you think about the fire alarm incident.

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Speaker 1: So just like to recap this.

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Speaker 2: Democratic Congressman Jamal Bowman pulled the fire alarm. It seemed

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Speaker 2: to the rest of the outside world that he was

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Speaker 2: trying to delay a proceeding, but he is claiming it

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Speaker 2: was a Saturday. He pulled the fire alarm because he

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Speaker 2: thought that might open the door. I've never in my

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Speaker 2: That's never been the case. So what's your take on this.

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Speaker 4: Look, this is somebody who is a former school principal.

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Speaker 4: He knows very well what a fire alarm is, and

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Speaker 3: And the other thing that doesn't make.

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Speaker 4: Sense about his story was that the emotion to adjourn

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Speaker 4: by the Democrats happened at eleven fifty nine. At twelve

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Speaker 4: oh five is when he pulled the alarm. And then

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Speaker 4: he said he was in a rush to go vote.

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Speaker 4: That's his justification, but he didn't vote for another hour,

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Speaker 4: and so it really there's a lot of holes in

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Speaker 4: and all the facts show that that's the case.

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Speaker 2: Well, and to be honest, those facts are not things

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Speaker 2: But to be honest, I think there are a lot

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Speaker 1: I mean, this was everybody knows. You don't do this.

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Speaker 2: You're calling the whole fire department to Congress. Everybody has

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Speaker 3: Well, look, the Democrats are the party of lawlessness. That's

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Speaker 4: This is the same party that is allowing massive illegal immigration.

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Speaker 4: It is the same party that in states like New

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Speaker 4: But yet Tis James is part of a state where

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Speaker 4: That's why I introduced a resolution to expel Bowman, just

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: It is a violation of DC code to pull the

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Speaker 4: It's a felony if you are interrupting government proceedings.

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Speaker 2: You talk about lawlessness, you talk about the Democrats being

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Speaker 1: What is the answer to keeping Washington, d C?

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Speaker 1: How can our capital be this lawless?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, it is really the same problem we're

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Speaker 4: In this case, the DC Council implemented a number of

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Speaker 4: You know, it is sad again, these are cities and

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Speaker 4: Right now, we have a president who's putting illegal immigrants

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Speaker 4: Fact, if you apply for asylum, they're taking the last

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Speaker 1: And they're getting court dates.

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Speaker 4: They're getting court dates to have their cases heard before

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Speaker 3: But it goes.

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Speaker 4: It's a whole thing, I guess a systemic problem within

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Speaker 3: They want to reward bad behavior New York City.

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Speaker 4: If you're here, if you're here illegally, you get work authorization,

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Speaker 4: and you reside in New York City for just thirty days,

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Speaker 3: Mayor Adams is appealing that decision.

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Speaker 4: But just goes to show you how they want to

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Speaker 3: I help people starting to recognize it.

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Speaker 2: I think people need to know that you come from

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Speaker 1: But I mean, you go to New York now and

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Speaker 2: I was there last week and I had a woman

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Speaker 2: And I thought, you're still not getting it. I mean,

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Speaker 4: Well, yeah, for those who feel that illegal immigration is

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Speaker 4: They're completely misguided. This is a problem that affects the

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Speaker 3: Now. That's why I feel bad for my constituents because.

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Speaker 4: My constituents Staten Island, Southern Brooklyn did not support this mayor,

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Speaker 4: My constituents want our borders to be secure. My constituents

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Speaker 3: So far under since Bill Deblasio. Right, Bill Deblasio.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say we are recording this on Tuesday,

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Speaker 4: He says he wants to shake up the system. I

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Speaker 4: He has been working in such a good faith with

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Speaker 3: You know, Matt feels differently.

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Speaker 3: I think that doesn't serve anybody.

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Speaker 3: And so I think it's misguided to do this at

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Speaker 4: Instead of working together as a team, sticking together passing

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Speaker 4: So I think this jeopardizes our quest to get border security,

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Speaker 2: I think we've seen some already, some of the division

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Speaker 1: I think that's the key that you're saying, the voters

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Speaker 3: That's what we should be collectively focused on.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think oftentimes we have to remember that this

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Congresswoman Nicole malli Otakis, and thank you all

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