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<v Speaker 1>Cool Zone Media. The sun was already starting to set

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<v Speaker 1>by the time the couple pulled up outside of their

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<v Speaker 1>apartment on November sixth, nineteen eighty seven. This trip to

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<v Speaker 1>Mexico had initially been pitched to Sheila as a honeymoon,

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<v Speaker 1>but they'd been staying in this little xpac community outside

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<v Speaker 1>of Guadalajara for more than six months. She was young

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<v Speaker 1>and in love, and she'd adjusted easily to her new

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<v Speaker 1>role as the stepmother to her husband's seven year old

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<v Speaker 1>daughter from a prior marriage, but she was so terribly

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<v Speaker 1>worried about crime. She and her husband just didn't trust Mexicans,

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<v Speaker 1>so they rarely strayed beyond the boundaries of their little

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood of white Americans. That evening, Sheila went straight inside

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<v Speaker 1>and started bustling around the kitchen, preparing to get started

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<v Speaker 1>on making dinner. With the groceries just picked up. She

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<v Speaker 1>was standing at the scenk looking out the kitchen window

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<v Speaker 1>to see what was taking her husband so long when

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<v Speaker 1>she saw her worst fear. A gang of Mexican bandits

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<v Speaker 1>was assaulting her husband. They were holding him face down

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<v Speaker 1>on the hood of the car at gunpoint. At least

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<v Speaker 1>that's what she told a Mexican judge she thought she

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<v Speaker 1>saw through the window. She claimed the officers with the

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<v Speaker 1>Mexican Federal Police never identified themselves. She never would have

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<v Speaker 1>fired on them if she'd known they were police officers,

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<v Speaker 1>and maybe the judge believed her, or maybe they just

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to be rid of her. She spent just ten

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<v Speaker 1>days in a Mexican jail before all of her charges

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<v Speaker 1>were dropped. The officer she'd shot three times in the

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<v Speaker 1>torso was still in the hospital in critical condition. When

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<v Speaker 1>Sheila was deported back to the United States, she rejoined

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<v Speaker 1>her husband, who was being held on some very serious

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<v Speaker 1>federal charges. That's why they'd been hiding out in Mexico.

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<v Speaker 1>It wasn't an extended honeymoon. Her husband was on the

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<v Speaker 1>FBI's most wanted list. Of course, Louis Beane was no

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<v Speaker 1>stranger to a courtroom, and he would end up wriggling

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<v Speaker 1>his way out of those sedition charges in nineteen eighty eight,

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<v Speaker 1>just like he always did. Nothing ever, seemed to stick

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<v Speaker 1>to him, not even that time. He hosted a boy

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<v Speaker 1>scout camp where his klansmen taught teenage boys how to

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<v Speaker 1>decapitate communists. I'm Molly Conger, and this is weird, little guys.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of what we know about what was happening

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<v Speaker 1>on Lewis Bem's paramilitary training compound outside Houston comes for

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<v Speaker 1>a lawsuit that was filed in nineteen eighty one. The

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<v Speaker 1>suit was filed by the Vietnamese Fishermen's Association against Lewis

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<v Speaker 1>Bean and his Texas Knights of the Ku Klux Klan.

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<v Speaker 1>By the late nineteen seventies, there were significant communities of

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<v Speaker 1>Vietnamese refugees and immigrants who had settled in the Gulf

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<v Speaker 1>Coast area. The climate was similar and there were opportunities

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<v Speaker 1>there for fishing and crabbing, which was how many of

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<v Speaker 1>those refugees had fed their families back home in Vietnam

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<v Speaker 1>before the war. The story of the Texas clans war

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<v Speaker 1>with the fishermen comes later, though. But if the Klan

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<v Speaker 1>being weird near Galveston was sounding familiar to you, that's

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<v Speaker 1>probably why the clans escalating confrontations and threats against the

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<v Speaker 1>fishermen and the subsequent lawsuit are what made that compound famous,

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<v Speaker 1>and the injunction in that lawsuit is what ultimately shut

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<v Speaker 1>the camp down and made Lewis Bean so bad that

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<v Speaker 1>he left Texas entirely for a while, but that didn't

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<v Speaker 1>really get going until nineteen eighty one, and locals knew

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<v Speaker 1>what was going on at that camp in the fall

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen eighty. You see, sometimes I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>tell you guys one funny little anecdote, but I can't

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<v Speaker 1>just drop you off in the middle of a guy's life.

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<v Speaker 1>You would have so many questions about how we got there.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's summertime. A lot of you have kids who

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<v Speaker 1>aren't in school this month. Maybe you've got them signed

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<v Speaker 1>up for some kind of camp, some educational program. Maybe

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to spend some time out in nature, learn

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<v Speaker 1>some new skills, make some new friends. And this seasonal

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<v Speaker 1>shift reminded me of the time a bunch of teenage

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<v Speaker 1>boys got sent off to what their mothers believed was

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<v Speaker 1>a perfectly normal boy scout camp, only to find out

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<v Speaker 1>that their sons were being trained for the race war

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<v Speaker 1>and a clan compound. So we're not going to get

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<v Speaker 1>the whole picture of Lewis Beam today, but I will

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<v Speaker 1>at least orient us a little bit before we get

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<v Speaker 1>into the kid's garrotting lessons. Okay, first of all, I

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<v Speaker 1>have to start with a confession. I have just now

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<v Speaker 1>discovered that I've been saying this man's name wrong for

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<v Speaker 1>a decade and nobody ever said anything to me. I

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<v Speaker 1>had to take a lap around the apartment, sighing and

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<v Speaker 1>groaning and slamming cabinets. Are you kidding me? Louis Louis Beam,

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<v Speaker 1>l o U I s that could be Lewis or Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, say Louis King, Louis Louis Armstrong. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>It could go either way, and I've always said Louis Beam,

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<v Speaker 1>And now that I'm stressing out about it, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know why did I hear someone say that? Or did

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<v Speaker 1>I just make it up and never check. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Louis ray Beam Junior l o UIs, but his

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<v Speaker 1>father is Louis Raybeams Senior l e Wis. He's named

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<v Speaker 1>after a guy whose name isn't even spelled the same

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<v Speaker 1>if they called him junior, so you gotta figure they

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<v Speaker 1>called the kid Lewis. I didn't want to believe it.

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<v Speaker 1>I hate to be wrong. I'm so embarrassed. Lewis Texas

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<v Speaker 1>Klansman Louis Beam. Everybody knew this, but me. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to say it that way, but I'll be damned.

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<v Speaker 1>It turns out there are actually a lot of recordings

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<v Speaker 1>of this man saying his own name. As someone once

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<v Speaker 1>told me, Louis, your reputation precedes you. I'm not kidding.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have to look very hard to hear him

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<v Speaker 1>saying his own name. And I've had this problem before,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is usually very hard to find a recording

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<v Speaker 1>of someone saying their own name. So I'll just call

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<v Speaker 1>Louis Thames name because I take you can't stand the

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<v Speaker 1>hate and get out of the kitchen. I'm in the kitchen.

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<v Speaker 1>For those of you who haven't figured it out yet,

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<v Speaker 1>my name's Louis. Bam. Okay, okay, I get it, I

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<v Speaker 1>get it. You got me, Louis. This has shaken me

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<v Speaker 1>to my core. I'm tempted to just keep saying Louis.

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<v Speaker 1>You know sunk cost at this point, But apparently I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just the only one. I was so desperate to prove

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<v Speaker 1>that maybe people say it both ways that I found

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<v Speaker 1>dozens of recordings of people saying his name over the decades.

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<v Speaker 1>The man himself, his friends, and colleagues, news anchors, an

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<v Speaker 1>episode of PBS Frontline Professors everybody says Louis. But if

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<v Speaker 1>you google Louis, beam pronounce, the AI overview says Louis

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<v Speaker 1>quote pronounced exactly like the name Louis or the French Louis,

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<v Speaker 1>with the s remaining completely silent. Now, normally I would

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<v Speaker 1>not admit to even having allowed my eyeballs to pass

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<v Speaker 1>over the AI overview. I need to figure outw to

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<v Speaker 1>turn it off because it is not a useful resource.

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<v Speaker 1>But in this case, I was curious what the citation

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<v Speaker 1>for this is, because there's always a citation. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>mean the information it's pulling is correct or that it

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<v Speaker 1>has correctly digested it. But it got this from somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>And the citation for this is an essay by doctor

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<v Speaker 1>Lawrence Min Bui Davis, the former curator for the Smithsonian

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<v Speaker 1>Asian Pacific American Center. According to doctor Davis, the Vietnamese

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<v Speaker 1>population in South Texas did call him Louis Bim, and

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<v Speaker 1>apparently bimb is a sort of vulgar Vietnamese slang term

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<v Speaker 1>for vagina. So a bunch of old Vietnamese guys were

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<v Speaker 1>sitting on their fishing boats in the bay talking about

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<v Speaker 1>their enemy Louis pussy. What a fun piece of cultural history.

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<v Speaker 1>Still never trust the AI overview. I got to figure

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<v Speaker 1>out how to turn that thing off, because even if

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<v Speaker 1>you're not trying to use it, it's just there at

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<v Speaker 1>the top of the page making stuff up. In this case,

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<v Speaker 1>it was telling me something that had an element of

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<v Speaker 1>truth to it, and that is a cool story. But

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<v Speaker 1>by presenting that as the proper pronunciation, no explanation, it

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<v Speaker 1>erased an extremely specific context, and it was effectively telling

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<v Speaker 1>me something that is not true. Remember AI does not

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<v Speaker 1>know anything. AI doesn't do your research for you. But

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you knew that. So I wasn't completely alone

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<v Speaker 1>in calling him Louis. But I don't have a Vietnamese accent,

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<v Speaker 1>so I guess I have to start calling him Lewis.

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<v Speaker 1>I could have kept this whole embarrassing digression to myself,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think we have the kind of relationship that

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<v Speaker 1>prioritizes honesty, and I wanted to tell you the pussy thing.

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<v Speaker 1>The second earth shattering revelation I had while I was

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<v Speaker 1>researching this week came when I found out he's still alive.

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<v Speaker 1>I genuinely had no idea Lewis being was still. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know why, but I assumed he'd been dead for years,

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<v Speaker 1>like twenty years maybe. I guess they'd mostly think of

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<v Speaker 1>him as being in his prime in the seventies and eighties,

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<v Speaker 1>and that was so long ago, you know. He was

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<v Speaker 1>a key figure in that time period, sort of on

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<v Speaker 1>the level with guys like William Luther Pierce. And Pierce

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<v Speaker 1>did die twenty five years ago, but he was significantly

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<v Speaker 1>older than Beam was. Lewis Beam is, as it turns out,

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<v Speaker 1>the exact same age as the President, So he'll be

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<v Speaker 1>turning eighty this summer. He dropped out of the public

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<v Speaker 1>eye three full decades ago, so I'm sure I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>the only one who assumed he was dead. His last

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<v Speaker 1>public appearance was in nineteen ninety six, around the time

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<v Speaker 1>he announced that he was retiring after thirty years in

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<v Speaker 1>the movement so he could spend more time with his family.

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<v Speaker 1>He also blamed his withdrawal on his declining health, which

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<v Speaker 1>he claimed was due to exposure to agent orange during

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<v Speaker 1>his service in the Vietnam War. I can't tell you

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<v Speaker 1>if the aging Klansman really was sick from exposure to

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<v Speaker 1>the chemical Defolian that the US military sprayed all over Vietnam,

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<v Speaker 1>but if he just wanted to spend more time with

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<v Speaker 1>his family, he picked a bad time to do it.

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<v Speaker 1>A few months after he stepped back from public life

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<v Speaker 1>to devote himself to his family, he didn't have one anymore.

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<v Speaker 1>His fourth wife, Sheila, the one who'd shot that Mexican

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<v Speaker 1>police officer for him a decade earlier, filed for divorce

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<v Speaker 1>in nineteen ninety seven, and the judge granted him very

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<v Speaker 1>limited access to the couple's two young daughters. His oldest daughter,

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<v Speaker 1>the one who'd been caught in that shootout in Mexico,

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<v Speaker 1>was returned to her mother, Beams third wife, Kara, in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty seven, after Mexican authority sent the girl home

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<v Speaker 1>to the US. Her father had abducted her during a

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<v Speaker 1>custodial disagreement in nineteen eighty two when she was a

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<v Speaker 1>top That may have played a role in the judge's

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<v Speaker 1>decision to give Sheila primary custody of the girls in

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<v Speaker 1>her divorce. The man had a history, but I guess

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<v Speaker 1>I should have started by telling you what that history was.

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<v Speaker 1>He's come up in passing here and there. It's hard

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid him, really, if you're talking about the American

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<v Speaker 1>far right in the seventies and eighties. He was a klansman.

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<v Speaker 1>Not just any clansman. He was kind of a big deal.

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<v Speaker 1>He was the architect of the leaderless resistance model of

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<v Speaker 1>right wing violence in the United States, that cell based

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<v Speaker 1>structure for terrorist attacks that makes the movement harder to

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<v Speaker 1>track and harder to stop. This week I returned once

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<v Speaker 1>again to one of my favorite books, Kathleen BLUs Bring

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<v Speaker 1>the War Home. I know I've said it before, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's worth saying again. If you haven't, go ahead and

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<v Speaker 1>pick up a copy. It really is one of the

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<v Speaker 1>best books out there on the white power movement in

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<v Speaker 1>the United States. And not to beat a dead horse,

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<v Speaker 1>but I did find audio of Kathleen saying his name.

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<v Speaker 1>She says Louis, because that's his name. Honestly, I trust

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<v Speaker 1>her more than I trust the man himself, so I

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<v Speaker 1>give up. Nobody says Louis. Her book isn't exactly a

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<v Speaker 1>biography of Louis Beam, but the modern militant far right

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<v Speaker 1>in America doesn't really exist without him, so it's as

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<v Speaker 1>close to one as you're going to find. The title itself,

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<v Speaker 1>bring the War Home, is a reference to one of

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<v Speaker 1>Beam's essays in his nineteen eighty three collection Essays of

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<v Speaker 1>a Klansman. One of the essays is called Vietnam, Bring

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<v Speaker 1>It On Home. Beam was a Vietnam War veteran, and

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<v Speaker 1>he wasn't done fighting when he got home. He'd fought

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<v Speaker 1>for the US government in Vietnam, and now he wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to wage war against the US government. Lewis Raybeaham Junior

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<v Speaker 1>was born on August twentieth, nineteen forty six, in Lufkin, Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know I said I was done, meaning a

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<v Speaker 1>dead horse. But according to the Texas Department of Health

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<v Speaker 1>Bureau of Vital Statistics, the name on his birth certificate,

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<v Speaker 1>the name that was recorded with the State of Texas

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<v Speaker 1>at the time of his birth is Lewis with a W,

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<v Speaker 1>just like his father's. So I don't know when he

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<v Speaker 1>started spelling his own name wrong. But okay, I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm done. He was the eldest of four children born

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<v Speaker 1>to Madeleine and Louis Beam Senior. Most sources just skip

0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:52.600
<v Speaker 1>over his childhood and pick up with his enlistment in

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<v Speaker 1>the army in nineteen sixty five. The Southern Poverty Law

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<v Speaker 1>Center is biographical sketch even says that there isn't much

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<v Speaker 1>known about beams childhood. Obviously, the couple of hours I

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<v Speaker 1>spent poking around on my computer here in my home

0:16:07.440 --> 0:16:11.200
<v Speaker 1>office wasn't going to dig up some previously unknown primary

0:16:11.240 --> 0:16:14.160
<v Speaker 1>source that the experts missed all these years. So I

0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:16.560
<v Speaker 1>don't have a bombshell for you. I don't have any

0:16:16.600 --> 0:16:21.600
<v Speaker 1>new information about his childhood, but I did find kind

0:16:21.640 --> 0:16:27.440
<v Speaker 1>of a fun fact about his conception. Lewis Senior was

0:16:27.480 --> 0:16:31.000
<v Speaker 1>a soldier to He was in the Army. He was

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<v Speaker 1>deployed in nineteen forty three, serving in Algeria, France, and Italy.

0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.200
<v Speaker 1>He was injured several times over the course of the

0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:40.720
<v Speaker 1>war and received a bronze star at a purple heart.

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<v Speaker 1>He attended Officer candidate school in France during the war,

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<v Speaker 1>and by nineteen forty five he was a lieutenant and

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<v Speaker 1>in the summer of nineteen forty five he received a

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<v Speaker 1>new assignment. He was a prison guard at Nuremberg. The

0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Klansman's father was one of the soldiers standing guard over

0:17:02.760 --> 0:17:10.600
<v Speaker 1>the Nazi war criminals. He met Hermann Gurring in November

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<v Speaker 1>of nineteen forty five, after thirty three months deployed in

0:17:13.880 --> 0:17:17.480
<v Speaker 1>the European theater, Lewis Senior was granted a six week

0:17:17.520 --> 0:17:20.920
<v Speaker 1>furlough to travel home to Texas to see his wife.

0:17:21.080 --> 0:17:24.160
<v Speaker 1>He'd married Madeline in nineteen forty one before he left

0:17:24.200 --> 0:17:27.560
<v Speaker 1>Texas for the army, but he'd barely seen her since.

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<v Speaker 1>The Tyler Morning Telegraph ran a story about his visit home,

0:17:32.320 --> 0:17:35.280
<v Speaker 1>describing what he'd been up to for the last three years.

0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:40.960
<v Speaker 1>The headline was gurring looks, beaten, morose, avoids meeting eyes

0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:46.399
<v Speaker 1>of others, reports jail guard from East Texas. Based on

0:17:46.480 --> 0:17:49.840
<v Speaker 1>Lewis Junior's state of birth, he would have been conceived

0:17:49.880 --> 0:17:54.160
<v Speaker 1>about halfway through his father's visit home. So maybe some

0:17:54.240 --> 0:17:57.960
<v Speaker 1>residual Nazi vibes from Nuremberg had transferred directly into him

0:17:58.040 --> 0:18:02.879
<v Speaker 1>at conception or something. I don't know. Those old local

0:18:02.920 --> 0:18:06.720
<v Speaker 1>newspapers had one more curious tidbit about Louis's childhood that

0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:10.399
<v Speaker 1>I hadn't found anywhere else. When he was a junior

0:18:10.440 --> 0:18:29.000
<v Speaker 1>in high school, his mother shot his father during an

0:18:29.080 --> 0:18:32.119
<v Speaker 1>argument one evening at home. She shot him once in

0:18:32.119 --> 0:18:35.080
<v Speaker 1>the stomach with a German made twenty two caliber pistol.

0:18:36.600 --> 0:18:38.959
<v Speaker 1>She was arrested and charged with assault with a deadly weapon.

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<v Speaker 1>He survived, but the marriage didn't. The divorce was finalized

0:18:46.200 --> 0:18:50.400
<v Speaker 1>the week of Louis's eighteenth birthday. His three younger siblings

0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.720
<v Speaker 1>were sent to live with their uncle. It doesn't say

0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:58.880
<v Speaker 1>what happened to Louis. Madeline Beam ended up being tried twice,

0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:03.440
<v Speaker 1>time ended in a mistrial, but she was ultimately acquitted.

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<v Speaker 1>In March of nineteen sixty five, a full year after

0:19:06.640 --> 0:19:12.800
<v Speaker 1>the incident, Lewis seemed to be struggling his senior year

0:19:12.840 --> 0:19:16.439
<v Speaker 1>of high school. A few months after his mother shot

0:19:16.440 --> 0:19:19.399
<v Speaker 1>his father, Lewis Junior was arrested on a charge of

0:19:19.440 --> 0:19:23.879
<v Speaker 1>criminal mischief in some unspecified incident involving throwing a bottle

0:19:23.920 --> 0:19:28.040
<v Speaker 1>at a house. A few months later, right around the

0:19:28.080 --> 0:19:30.440
<v Speaker 1>time of his mother's second trial for shooting his father,

0:19:31.320 --> 0:19:34.160
<v Speaker 1>an eighteen year old Lewis got a sixteen year old

0:19:34.160 --> 0:19:38.639
<v Speaker 1>girl pregnant. They married shortly after he graduated high school.

0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:44.200
<v Speaker 1>Marilyn Milligan was the first of Lewis Beam's five wives,

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<v Speaker 1>and the first of three women who would be sixteen

0:19:48.320 --> 0:19:51.600
<v Speaker 1>years old at the time of their marriage to Beam.

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<v Speaker 1>He was eighteen the first time, but he kept getting older,

0:19:58.760 --> 0:20:04.399
<v Speaker 1>and the wives stage sixteen before his first child was

0:20:04.440 --> 0:20:08.800
<v Speaker 1>even born, Louis Bean was off to the army. Maybe

0:20:08.840 --> 0:20:12.280
<v Speaker 1>he felt like he didn't have other options. His parents

0:20:12.320 --> 0:20:14.720
<v Speaker 1>were kind of dealing with their own stuff. It's not

0:20:14.760 --> 0:20:16.720
<v Speaker 1>even clear where he'd been living when he got his

0:20:16.760 --> 0:20:21.080
<v Speaker 1>teenage girlfriend pregnant. So he enlisted in the army in

0:20:21.119 --> 0:20:26.080
<v Speaker 1>September of nineteen sixty five. He just turned nineteen and

0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:28.040
<v Speaker 1>he had a teenage wife with a baby on the way.

0:20:29.880 --> 0:20:32.760
<v Speaker 1>He was sent to a base in Germany first, but

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<v Speaker 1>from the spring of nineteen sixty seven to the fall

0:20:35.000 --> 0:20:39.480
<v Speaker 1>of nineteen sixty eight he spent eighteen months in country.

0:20:41.119 --> 0:20:43.320
<v Speaker 1>He served as a machine gunner on a helicopter with

0:20:43.359 --> 0:20:48.280
<v Speaker 1>the twenty fifth Aviation Battalion. By his own account, he

0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.439
<v Speaker 1>quickly grew to enjoy the killing. He was good at it,

0:20:53.480 --> 0:20:56.640
<v Speaker 1>and his country thanked him for it. He came home

0:20:56.680 --> 0:21:00.520
<v Speaker 1>a highly decorated veteran, earning a Distinguished Flying Cross, an

0:21:00.600 --> 0:21:04.959
<v Speaker 1>Army Commendation Medal, and the Air Medal for Heroism. He

0:21:05.000 --> 0:21:07.440
<v Speaker 1>claims to have killed fifty people during his year and

0:21:07.480 --> 0:21:10.719
<v Speaker 1>a half in Vietnam. All it did was give him

0:21:10.720 --> 0:21:15.720
<v Speaker 1>PTSD a taste for killing communists and the best training

0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a future paramilitary commander. Could ever hope for. Not to

0:21:23.080 --> 0:21:27.760
<v Speaker 1>be clear, he was already racist. Getting a free pass

0:21:27.800 --> 0:21:31.720
<v Speaker 1>from the US government to shoot Vietnamese people didn't implant

0:21:32.080 --> 0:21:36.000
<v Speaker 1>the notion of white supremacy in his head. A now

0:21:36.040 --> 0:21:39.240
<v Speaker 1>deleted website maintained by veterans of the twenty fifth Aviation

0:21:39.320 --> 0:21:43.160
<v Speaker 1>Battalion shows a photo of a young Lewis Beam posing

0:21:43.160 --> 0:21:46.720
<v Speaker 1>in his quarters. He's posing in front of a big

0:21:46.760 --> 0:21:50.320
<v Speaker 1>Confederate flag hanging on the wall in a little thatched hut,

0:21:51.280 --> 0:21:54.520
<v Speaker 1>and the caption reads, all I gotta say is vote

0:21:54.560 --> 0:21:59.680
<v Speaker 1>for Wallace. He was apparently well known for talking about

0:21:59.680 --> 0:22:03.440
<v Speaker 1>how much she liked George Wallace, the segregationist running for

0:22:03.560 --> 0:22:08.399
<v Speaker 1>president in nineteen sixty eight. According to his Essays of

0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:12.240
<v Speaker 1>a Klansman, he joined the Klan shortly after returning home

0:22:12.280 --> 0:22:16.400
<v Speaker 1>in nineteen sixty eight. Maybe he joined in sixty nine.

0:22:17.440 --> 0:22:23.360
<v Speaker 1>Certainly by nineteen seventy he was allegedly already carrying out

0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:28.200
<v Speaker 1>bombings for the Klan by the beginning of nineteen seventy.

0:22:28.240 --> 0:22:32.080
<v Speaker 1>His own timelines are a little scattered. In Essays of

0:22:32.080 --> 0:22:34.959
<v Speaker 1>a Klansman, he says he joined the Klan after watching

0:22:34.960 --> 0:22:39.000
<v Speaker 1>footage of an anti war demonstration on TV. He was

0:22:39.000 --> 0:22:42.120
<v Speaker 1>sitting at home in Texas, just freshly home from the war,

0:22:43.520 --> 0:22:47.960
<v Speaker 1>and he watched people that he calls pro Vietcong communist

0:22:48.080 --> 0:22:53.720
<v Speaker 1>sympathizers picketing outside the Capitol Building in DC, and those

0:22:53.760 --> 0:22:58.280
<v Speaker 1>demonstrators set an American flag on fire and spat on

0:22:58.359 --> 0:23:03.320
<v Speaker 1>its ashes. Now, it's unclear if the demonstrators in question

0:23:03.400 --> 0:23:07.280
<v Speaker 1>were actually Communists or if this is just another instance

0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:10.520
<v Speaker 1>of a reactionary labeling all of his enemies communists. That

0:23:10.680 --> 0:23:15.640
<v Speaker 1>is something he specifically did a lot, and I'm not

0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:18.439
<v Speaker 1>able to tell you with any kind of certainty what

0:23:18.640 --> 0:23:21.480
<v Speaker 1>day this would have occurred on. There were a lot

0:23:21.520 --> 0:23:24.400
<v Speaker 1>of demonstrations against the war, and a lot of them

0:23:24.400 --> 0:23:27.879
<v Speaker 1>featured flag burning. So this may have been a real

0:23:28.200 --> 0:23:32.080
<v Speaker 1>specific incident, or it may not have, but it represented

0:23:32.119 --> 0:23:35.960
<v Speaker 1>something that he certainly could have seen on TV. He

0:23:36.040 --> 0:23:38.920
<v Speaker 1>describes this incident as taking place in the late fall

0:23:39.359 --> 0:23:44.160
<v Speaker 1>quote one hundred and seven years after Fort Sumter, referring

0:23:44.240 --> 0:23:46.280
<v Speaker 1>to the battle that started the Civil War in eighteen

0:23:46.359 --> 0:23:51.520
<v Speaker 1>sixty one. So he doesn't say when this happened, but

0:23:51.640 --> 0:23:53.600
<v Speaker 1>it sounds like he's saying he joined the Klan in

0:23:53.640 --> 0:23:57.360
<v Speaker 1>the fall of nineteen sixty eight. Although in other writings

0:23:57.400 --> 0:24:00.600
<v Speaker 1>he describes having joined the movement in April of nineteen

0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:08.200
<v Speaker 1>sixty nine, but around then, in March of nineteen seventy,

0:24:08.359 --> 0:24:10.800
<v Speaker 1>he was briefly detained after snatching a flag from a

0:24:10.840 --> 0:24:14.040
<v Speaker 1>left wing demonstrator at a rally against the draft in Houston.

0:24:15.320 --> 0:24:17.960
<v Speaker 1>He attacked a member of Students for a Democratic Society

0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:21.400
<v Speaker 1>and had to be protected by marchers from the Peace Coalition,

0:24:21.680 --> 0:24:26.240
<v Speaker 1>who escorted him at his request through the crowd towards

0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:29.879
<v Speaker 1>the police. At the edge of the rally. FBI agents

0:24:29.920 --> 0:24:33.080
<v Speaker 1>who were there that day were seen photographing the faces

0:24:33.119 --> 0:24:36.000
<v Speaker 1>and license plates of the marchers who were there to

0:24:36.000 --> 0:24:39.639
<v Speaker 1>oppose the war in Vietnam, but the police released the

0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:45.080
<v Speaker 1>violent clansmen without charges. According to an informant, he was

0:24:45.119 --> 0:24:47.879
<v Speaker 1>one of the klansmen responsible for blowing up a radio

0:24:47.920 --> 0:24:52.560
<v Speaker 1>station two months later. Later that year, in October of

0:24:52.640 --> 0:24:56.240
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy, Beam was invited to a banquet hosted by

0:24:56.320 --> 0:25:01.359
<v Speaker 1>Anna Chenault, widow of General Claire Schanalt. Anna Chenault was

0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:04.560
<v Speaker 1>an influential fundraiser for Richard Nixon, and she gave a

0:25:04.600 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>speech that evening about the importance of continuing the war

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:11.280
<v Speaker 1>in Vietnam, and she presented Louis Beam with a Good

0:25:11.320 --> 0:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>Citizenship award for his efforts in attacking that peace protester,

0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.760
<v Speaker 1>and just by wave a little bit of background on

0:25:19.800 --> 0:25:24.120
<v Speaker 1>Anna Chenault. Two years before that banquet, she was involved

0:25:24.119 --> 0:25:28.479
<v Speaker 1>in Richard Nixon's efforts to sabotage President Johnson's attempts at

0:25:28.480 --> 0:25:33.200
<v Speaker 1>peace talks. Now, the actual impact of the Chenault affair

0:25:33.320 --> 0:25:35.520
<v Speaker 1>on the length of the war is a matter of

0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:39.320
<v Speaker 1>some debate, but it is a historical fact that she

0:25:39.440 --> 0:25:42.720
<v Speaker 1>was working on Richard Nixon's behalf in an attempt to

0:25:42.760 --> 0:25:47.120
<v Speaker 1>prolong the war intentionally, so I guess it does make

0:25:47.200 --> 0:25:49.680
<v Speaker 1>some sense that she was giving out awards for roughing

0:25:49.720 --> 0:25:57.240
<v Speaker 1>up hippies and peacenicks. Beam wasn't publicly identified as a

0:25:57.280 --> 0:26:00.639
<v Speaker 1>clansman until he was arrested in nineteen seventy one for

0:26:00.680 --> 0:26:03.159
<v Speaker 1>a series of bombings that had begun over a year earlier.

0:26:04.400 --> 0:26:06.760
<v Speaker 1>He and more than a dozen other clansmen were indicted

0:26:06.760 --> 0:26:09.560
<v Speaker 1>on a laundry list of charges, including bombing that radio

0:26:09.600 --> 0:26:13.399
<v Speaker 1>station and the offices of the Houston area Socialist Workers

0:26:13.480 --> 0:26:16.880
<v Speaker 1>Party that was a popular target for the time period.

0:26:17.160 --> 0:26:20.119
<v Speaker 1>If you remember from the Joseph Paul Franklin episodes. That

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.119
<v Speaker 1>was one of his first bombings as well, and the

0:26:23.160 --> 0:26:26.200
<v Speaker 1>Socialist Workers Party office in LA was blown up by

0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:29.400
<v Speaker 1>members of the National Socialist White People's Party, all kind

0:26:29.440 --> 0:26:31.520
<v Speaker 1>of around this same time period. It was something these

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.879
<v Speaker 1>guys thought about a lot. And in the case of

0:26:34.880 --> 0:26:38.560
<v Speaker 1>the bombing in Houston, the defense attorney on that case

0:26:39.640 --> 0:26:42.400
<v Speaker 1>is someone you might remember from a lot of other

0:26:42.520 --> 0:26:47.960
<v Speaker 1>stories about unsolved bombings during this time period. Representing one

0:26:47.960 --> 0:26:52.240
<v Speaker 1>of beams co conspirators was National States Rights Party chairman

0:26:52.320 --> 0:26:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and serial bomber JB. Stoner. That doesn't go anywhere, but

0:26:58.840 --> 0:27:02.280
<v Speaker 1>that's a recurring character, So put a pin on the board,

0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:10.200
<v Speaker 1>and oddly this case disappears. In nineteen seventy one, Lewis

0:27:10.240 --> 0:27:14.280
<v Speaker 1>Beam is arrested and indicted for a number of bombings.

0:27:14.440 --> 0:27:19.960
<v Speaker 1>There's credible evidence, there are informants. One guy got convicted,

0:27:20.920 --> 0:27:24.760
<v Speaker 1>but the case against him just kind of never I

0:27:24.760 --> 0:27:27.000
<v Speaker 1>don't know, there's just nothing, like, there's no record I

0:27:27.000 --> 0:27:29.040
<v Speaker 1>can find that it went to trial, or that it

0:27:29.119 --> 0:27:32.080
<v Speaker 1>was dropped, or that a particular reason was given for anything.

0:27:32.160 --> 0:27:34.800
<v Speaker 1>It just disappears from the news. It's in the news

0:27:34.840 --> 0:27:37.240
<v Speaker 1>all the time throughout nineteen seventy one. I mean, Beam

0:27:37.320 --> 0:27:41.600
<v Speaker 1>is testifying for the defense several times and proceedings against

0:27:41.600 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 1>his co conspirators, and then there's just no more articles

0:27:45.760 --> 0:27:51.040
<v Speaker 1>about it ever. Again. Now, granted, I have limited access

0:27:51.040 --> 0:27:55.800
<v Speaker 1>to archival resources here on my computer at home, but

0:27:55.920 --> 0:28:00.000
<v Speaker 1>Kathleen Blue's book has a footnote that reads, the details

0:28:00.160 --> 0:28:03.240
<v Speaker 1>of these cases are not available in the archival material.

0:28:04.480 --> 0:28:07.040
<v Speaker 1>And I know Kathleen looked at all the archival material.

0:28:07.240 --> 0:28:14.880
<v Speaker 1>So there's just no explanation for this. In the mid

0:28:14.960 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventies, Lewis Beam changed teams. I mean he was

0:28:20.040 --> 0:28:23.960
<v Speaker 1>still a clansman, don't get me wrong, but he swapped allegiances.

0:28:25.400 --> 0:28:28.959
<v Speaker 1>He'd originally joined a Texas chapter of the Alabama based

0:28:29.280 --> 0:28:33.720
<v Speaker 1>United Clans of America, but he was starting to feel disillusioned.

0:28:34.480 --> 0:28:38.400
<v Speaker 1>I mean, the group was so heavily infiltrated with informants,

0:28:38.720 --> 0:28:42.240
<v Speaker 1>and everybody knew it. I mean people say that today

0:28:42.240 --> 0:28:43.840
<v Speaker 1>about all kinds of things, and a lot of that

0:28:43.920 --> 0:28:49.560
<v Speaker 1>is just paranoia, but they were right. Cointelbro had done

0:28:49.560 --> 0:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>a real number on the UKA. So in nineteen seventy

0:28:54.360 --> 0:28:57.520
<v Speaker 1>three he struck out on his own. He wanted his

0:28:57.560 --> 0:29:02.000
<v Speaker 1>own thing, and he called it the Original Ku Klux Klan.

0:29:03.640 --> 0:29:08.160
<v Speaker 1>I wish I was kidding. There was actually already a

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:12.000
<v Speaker 1>group in Louisiana called the Original Ku Klux Klan, and

0:29:12.080 --> 0:29:14.840
<v Speaker 1>he got that guy's permission to use their charter and

0:29:14.920 --> 0:29:18.840
<v Speaker 1>the name because it was I think, mostly defunct. But

0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:21.080
<v Speaker 1>he called it the Original Ku Klux Klan, which is

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>a silly name in the first place, and it wasn't

0:29:23.080 --> 0:29:27.000
<v Speaker 1>even the first group to be called that. But by

0:29:27.080 --> 0:29:30.200
<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy five he'd reached an agreement with David Duke

0:29:30.320 --> 0:29:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to affiliate his organization with Duke's klan group, the Knights

0:29:34.600 --> 0:29:37.600
<v Speaker 1>of the Ku Klux Klan. So you know, normally we're

0:29:37.640 --> 0:29:40.240
<v Speaker 1>just talking about the Klan. That's three ks. This is

0:29:40.320 --> 0:29:45.440
<v Speaker 1>four ks. The internal politics of rival Klan groups is

0:29:45.480 --> 0:29:49.160
<v Speaker 1>something we can talk about another time, but just so

0:29:49.200 --> 0:29:52.560
<v Speaker 1>you know, he was in the Klan the whole time,

0:29:53.640 --> 0:30:10.840
<v Speaker 1>but it was three different clans. There is so much

0:30:10.880 --> 0:30:13.400
<v Speaker 1>more to say about Louis Bean and the Clan in

0:30:13.440 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>the nineteen seventies, but I got into this whole mess

0:30:18.040 --> 0:30:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to tell you a funny story, and god damn it,

0:30:21.000 --> 0:30:23.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm just going to skip to it. Louis Bean is

0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.360
<v Speaker 1>so integral to the history of this time period that

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm not worried about it. We'll pick up these loose

0:30:30.040 --> 0:30:34.080
<v Speaker 1>ends in a number of future episodes. I just wanted

0:30:34.120 --> 0:30:36.920
<v Speaker 1>to lay a little bit of groundwork for you before

0:30:36.960 --> 0:30:39.560
<v Speaker 1>we get to the fifteen year old boys who begged

0:30:39.600 --> 0:30:41.520
<v Speaker 1>their moms not to make them go back to boy

0:30:41.520 --> 0:30:45.959
<v Speaker 1>scout camp because of the heavy emphasis on learning how

0:30:46.000 --> 0:30:51.960
<v Speaker 1>to murder people. In nineteen seventy seven, Louis Bean purchased

0:30:52.000 --> 0:30:55.760
<v Speaker 1>some land he used to grant from the Texas Veterans

0:30:55.880 --> 0:30:58.840
<v Speaker 1>Land Board to buy fifty acres of swamp land in

0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the area of Double By You in Chambers County. If

0:31:02.840 --> 0:31:04.600
<v Speaker 1>you don't have a map handy and you don't know

0:31:04.640 --> 0:31:07.600
<v Speaker 1>where Double Bayou is, the best I can do for

0:31:07.720 --> 0:31:11.720
<v Speaker 1>you is that the nearest city would be Houston, but

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.520
<v Speaker 1>Double Bayou is kind of on the other side of

0:31:14.560 --> 0:31:19.520
<v Speaker 1>the bay. The land was co owned with three other men,

0:31:20.600 --> 0:31:24.600
<v Speaker 1>Beam's younger brother Philip, a local attorney named Dale Paschel,

0:31:25.640 --> 0:31:28.920
<v Speaker 1>and Beam's second in command in his clan paramilitary group,

0:31:29.760 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>Robert Cecente. Cesinte has a number of aliases, but this

0:31:34.640 --> 0:31:37.240
<v Speaker 1>is the one that's used most consistently. So we'll stick

0:31:37.280 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>with that. Paschell would later tell reporters that he'd only

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:44.680
<v Speaker 1>purchase the land as an investment and he had no

0:31:44.800 --> 0:31:47.840
<v Speaker 1>involvement in or knowledge of how it was being used.

0:31:49.280 --> 0:31:52.280
<v Speaker 1>Philip Beam lived in Ohio, and he said if that

0:31:52.320 --> 0:31:55.160
<v Speaker 1>property was being used for anything, it was news to him.

0:31:57.080 --> 0:32:00.720
<v Speaker 1>Cesente lived on the property and he would he actively

0:32:00.760 --> 0:32:05.080
<v Speaker 1>involved in the operations there, but he claimed he had

0:32:05.120 --> 0:32:07.760
<v Speaker 1>no idea it had anything to do with the Klan,

0:32:08.400 --> 0:32:11.120
<v Speaker 1>and he was just an enthusiastic hobbyist with a passion

0:32:11.160 --> 0:32:18.240
<v Speaker 1>for survival training. He just liked camping. By the time

0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.800
<v Speaker 1>they're all making these denials to the press, Lewis Beam

0:32:21.960 --> 0:32:24.280
<v Speaker 1>is the Grand Dragon of the Texas Knights of the

0:32:24.320 --> 0:32:27.280
<v Speaker 1>Ku Klux Klan. He is the highest ranking klansman in

0:32:27.320 --> 0:32:31.800
<v Speaker 1>the state of Texas. And they all knew that. Everybody

0:32:31.880 --> 0:32:38.920
<v Speaker 1>knew that. There's no way they didn't know that. Dorothy Skaife,

0:32:38.920 --> 0:32:41.320
<v Speaker 1>a klansman's widow by the time the compound was built,

0:32:41.640 --> 0:32:44.880
<v Speaker 1>lived in a trailer on the compound. She and her

0:32:44.960 --> 0:32:48.360
<v Speaker 1>husband had been friends with David and Chloe Duke. The

0:32:48.400 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>local newspaper ran a photo of her holding David Duke's

0:32:51.680 --> 0:32:55.000
<v Speaker 1>infant daughter at a Klan bookstore grand opening in nineteen

0:32:55.040 --> 0:32:58.360
<v Speaker 1>seventy six. None of this was a secret. You couldn't

0:32:58.520 --> 0:33:02.000
<v Speaker 1>not know that these people clansmen, and that Lewis Bean

0:33:02.120 --> 0:33:05.360
<v Speaker 1>was using the land as a training facility for clansmen.

0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:12.360
<v Speaker 1>They called it Camp Puller, named for General Lewis Chesty Puller,

0:33:12.920 --> 0:33:15.280
<v Speaker 1>a Marine Corps officer who served in the occupation of

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Haiti in nineteen nineteen, the operation of Nicaragua in the thirties,

0:33:18.720 --> 0:33:23.320
<v Speaker 1>World War Two, and the Korean War. Puller had died

0:33:23.400 --> 0:33:26.480
<v Speaker 1>just a few years before the camp opened, but Marines

0:33:26.480 --> 0:33:29.800
<v Speaker 1>had been naming stuff after Chesty Puller for years already.

0:33:30.400 --> 0:33:33.720
<v Speaker 1>The bulldog that serves as the Marine Corps unofficial mascot

0:33:34.280 --> 0:33:37.640
<v Speaker 1>has been named Chesty since the fifties, when the human

0:33:37.720 --> 0:33:42.120
<v Speaker 1>Chesty was still alive. I think they're on Chesty the sixteenth.

0:33:42.240 --> 0:33:45.640
<v Speaker 1>Now it's a real dog. They just named them all Chesty.

0:33:47.360 --> 0:33:50.360
<v Speaker 1>Robert Cecente, one of the land's co owners, the one

0:33:50.360 --> 0:33:52.400
<v Speaker 1>who said he didn't know anything about the clan stuff.

0:33:53.360 --> 0:33:55.480
<v Speaker 1>He said he chose that name because he'd served with

0:33:55.560 --> 0:34:00.600
<v Speaker 1>Puller in Korea, and Camp Puller sounds like the name

0:34:00.680 --> 0:34:05.640
<v Speaker 1>of a real Marine Corps base. But Kemp Puller wasn't

0:34:05.680 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 1>a real military base. It was modeled after military basis.

0:34:10.320 --> 0:34:14.160
<v Speaker 1>It was intended to serve a similar function, and many

0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:17.600
<v Speaker 1>of the men running it were veterans. They used what

0:34:17.640 --> 0:34:20.239
<v Speaker 1>they learned in the military to replicate the experience of

0:34:20.280 --> 0:34:25.520
<v Speaker 1>boot camp for their clan recruits. Later court proceedings include

0:34:25.560 --> 0:34:28.520
<v Speaker 1>expert testimony from a former Green Beret who had reviewed

0:34:28.560 --> 0:34:33.040
<v Speaker 1>hours of footage of Lewis Beem providing classroom and tactical

0:34:33.080 --> 0:34:38.239
<v Speaker 1>instruction on the compound. In his opinion, the training was

0:34:38.280 --> 0:34:42.440
<v Speaker 1>consistent with what would be necessary for a viable military organization.

0:34:43.600 --> 0:34:45.800
<v Speaker 1>It was similar to the training that would be occurring

0:34:46.560 --> 0:34:52.600
<v Speaker 1>on a military base. It wasn't survival training, it wasn't camping.

0:34:53.760 --> 0:34:59.160
<v Speaker 1>It was very clear to him that the goal was combat.

0:35:00.480 --> 0:35:03.880
<v Speaker 1>In October of nineteen eighty, three, years after being bought

0:35:03.880 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 1>that land, the Anti Defamation League issued a report about

0:35:08.239 --> 0:35:12.719
<v Speaker 1>clan training compounds, not just this one. There were several

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:18.480
<v Speaker 1>of these compounds in Texas. There were some in Louisiana, Alabama, California, Illinois,

0:35:18.880 --> 0:35:22.640
<v Speaker 1>and North Carolina. The one in North Carolina was run

0:35:22.680 --> 0:35:26.040
<v Speaker 1>by another guy we've talked about before, Fraser Glenn Miller.

0:35:27.840 --> 0:35:30.160
<v Speaker 1>And the ADL mailed copies of this report out to

0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:35.440
<v Speaker 1>various attorneys general. They talked to the press. The FBI

0:35:35.440 --> 0:35:38.040
<v Speaker 1>said there was nothing they could do about it, and

0:35:38.080 --> 0:35:41.239
<v Speaker 1>the local cops in Chambers County said all they'd ever

0:35:41.239 --> 0:35:45.120
<v Speaker 1>gotten were a couple of noise complaints, nothing illegal going on.

0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:52.160
<v Speaker 1>After the report hit the news, reporters in Texas went

0:35:52.239 --> 0:35:55.359
<v Speaker 1>to go talk to the neighbors and it turned out

0:35:55.440 --> 0:36:00.400
<v Speaker 1>they'd been having issues. On November sixteenth, nineteen e the

0:36:00.440 --> 0:36:03.839
<v Speaker 1>Houston Chronicle ran a story with the headline right wing

0:36:03.880 --> 0:36:09.120
<v Speaker 1>militants operate armed training center in Chambers County. One neighbor

0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:11.319
<v Speaker 1>said it sounded like there was a small war going

0:36:11.360 --> 0:36:14.960
<v Speaker 1>on next door. He told reporters he'd once discovered a

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>small troop of armed men and camo hiding in his bushes,

0:36:19.280 --> 0:36:22.000
<v Speaker 1>and that his elderly mother was terrified when she saw

0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.280
<v Speaker 1>a group of men with rifles hiding in a ditch

0:36:24.320 --> 0:36:28.400
<v Speaker 1>by the road when she was driving to church. A

0:36:28.440 --> 0:36:31.000
<v Speaker 1>trainer at the camp, who wouldn't give reporters his real name,

0:36:31.719 --> 0:36:38.000
<v Speaker 1>rejected that characterization. It's just survivalist training, he said, quote

0:36:38.480 --> 0:36:42.400
<v Speaker 1>it's trading that any gorilla would need, but it's also

0:36:42.480 --> 0:36:46.320
<v Speaker 1>what any boy scout lost in the woods would need.

0:36:48.360 --> 0:36:51.080
<v Speaker 1>And it's so funny that he should mention boy scouts

0:36:52.320 --> 0:36:55.160
<v Speaker 1>because a week later, the Houston Chronicle ran another story

0:36:55.160 --> 0:36:58.840
<v Speaker 1>about the compound. The story ran on the front page

0:36:58.880 --> 0:37:03.400
<v Speaker 1>of the Sunday paper announcing Ku Klux klansmen convicted felon

0:37:03.640 --> 0:37:11.880
<v Speaker 1>teach area boy Scouts how to kill Camp Puller wasn't

0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:16.200
<v Speaker 1>just a clan paramilitary training compound. It wasn't just adults

0:37:16.280 --> 0:37:19.600
<v Speaker 1>preparing for the race where it Camp Puller. It was

0:37:19.680 --> 0:37:24.560
<v Speaker 1>part of the Boy Scouts of America's Explorer program. I

0:37:24.560 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>think the program has a slightly different meaning within Scouting today,

0:37:27.760 --> 0:37:31.760
<v Speaker 1>but back then, older boy scouts in the Senior Scout

0:37:31.800 --> 0:37:37.120
<v Speaker 1>program could choose several different paths, and Explorer Scouts focused

0:37:37.160 --> 0:37:44.560
<v Speaker 1>on things like camping sounds great wholesome stuff, and the

0:37:44.600 --> 0:37:49.879
<v Speaker 1>boys did camp. But after those first stories came out

0:37:49.920 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 1>about the compound being used as a clan training camp,

0:37:53.520 --> 0:37:57.279
<v Speaker 1>some concerned mothers came forward about what else was going

0:37:57.320 --> 0:38:03.839
<v Speaker 1>on there. Obviously, the more important story is the four

0:38:03.920 --> 0:38:08.960
<v Speaker 1>years the Klans spent training militant racists, but the funnier

0:38:09.000 --> 0:38:12.080
<v Speaker 1>story is the few months they spent trying to convince

0:38:12.160 --> 0:38:14.120
<v Speaker 1>high schoolers that they might need to know how to

0:38:14.200 --> 0:38:19.480
<v Speaker 1>hijack a plane. In the aftermath of the revelations about

0:38:19.480 --> 0:38:22.480
<v Speaker 1>what was really going on at Camp Puller, it came

0:38:22.520 --> 0:38:25.960
<v Speaker 1>out that a lot of people should have known this

0:38:26.120 --> 0:38:28.440
<v Speaker 1>wasn't a good idea. A lot of people could have

0:38:28.480 --> 0:38:33.400
<v Speaker 1>stopped this. When the instructors from the camp applied to

0:38:33.440 --> 0:38:36.240
<v Speaker 1>host the Explorer Post in the fall of nineteen eighty,

0:38:37.239 --> 0:38:40.000
<v Speaker 1>they met with a representative from the Houston Area Boy

0:38:40.000 --> 0:38:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Scout Council, as well as Lieutenant Colonel R. L. Close,

0:38:44.160 --> 0:38:46.920
<v Speaker 1>the Marine Corps officer who oversaw the local Civil Air

0:38:46.960 --> 0:38:50.880
<v Speaker 1>Patrol Cadet program, a program for teenagers interested in the

0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:56.480
<v Speaker 1>Air Force. Of that meeting, Lieutenant Close said he'd questioned

0:38:56.480 --> 0:39:00.719
<v Speaker 1>them about their proposed curriculum. Quote. I brought up the

0:39:00.760 --> 0:39:05.239
<v Speaker 1>garrotting and the machete thing, he later told reporters. I

0:39:05.280 --> 0:39:07.600
<v Speaker 1>said it wasn't necessary to teach that kind of thing.

0:39:08.120 --> 0:39:10.479
<v Speaker 1>I said, I really didn't see any reason to teach

0:39:10.520 --> 0:39:12.799
<v Speaker 1>them to use a garat or a machete to kill.

0:39:14.719 --> 0:39:17.680
<v Speaker 1>He recalls that they just shrugged and they'd take his

0:39:17.760 --> 0:39:24.680
<v Speaker 1>recommendation under advisement. After that meeting, both the Cadet program

0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:29.760
<v Speaker 1>and the Boy Scouts Explorer program sent boys to Camp Puller.

0:39:31.719 --> 0:39:36.080
<v Speaker 1>They had this meeting, they had this conversation, they did

0:39:36.080 --> 0:39:39.600
<v Speaker 1>not get confirmation that this would not happen, and they

0:39:39.680 --> 0:39:48.080
<v Speaker 1>sent children there. The camp instructors they'd met with should

0:39:48.080 --> 0:39:50.239
<v Speaker 1>have sent up red flags right away, I mean, even

0:39:50.280 --> 0:39:55.160
<v Speaker 1>before they opened their mouths about the murder stuff. Joe Bogart,

0:39:55.320 --> 0:39:58.480
<v Speaker 1>the drill instructor at Camp Puller, had served four years

0:39:58.480 --> 0:40:01.839
<v Speaker 1>in the Marines as a cook. He was also a

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:04.040
<v Speaker 1>loud and proud member of the Knights of the Ku

0:40:04.120 --> 0:40:07.920
<v Speaker 1>Klux Klan. Granted that wouldn't have come up on a

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:10.640
<v Speaker 1>background check, and the Boy Scouts of America later defended

0:40:10.680 --> 0:40:14.360
<v Speaker 1>themselves by saying, there's no question on the background form

0:40:14.440 --> 0:40:17.040
<v Speaker 1>that asks about things like that, So how could they

0:40:17.040 --> 0:40:21.480
<v Speaker 1>have found out. They could have found out by simply

0:40:21.520 --> 0:40:26.319
<v Speaker 1>observing Bogart's behavior because he wasn't shy about it, But

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the background check should have caught. John Bryant, the Scout

0:40:30.640 --> 0:40:35.080
<v Speaker 1>leader for the program, was on federal probation. He had

0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:40.960
<v Speaker 1>very recently been convicted for illegally selling automatic weapons. He

0:40:41.120 --> 0:40:44.160
<v Speaker 1>was not legally allowed to handle a firearm of any kind.

0:40:45.160 --> 0:40:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Let alone hand out M sixteen's loaded with live AMMO

0:40:48.960 --> 0:40:55.359
<v Speaker 1>to groups of school children. Another potential scout master never

0:40:55.440 --> 0:40:59.880
<v Speaker 1>actually interacted with the children. John Allen Moser, was arrested

0:40:59.880 --> 0:41:03.280
<v Speaker 1>for murder for hire shortly before the Explorer camp got started,

0:41:03.960 --> 0:41:06.319
<v Speaker 1>but he'd been an instructor on the compound prior to

0:41:06.360 --> 0:41:11.879
<v Speaker 1>his arrest. Moser, a longtime clan member, had previously spent

0:41:11.920 --> 0:41:15.319
<v Speaker 1>time in federal prison for possession of explosives and firearms

0:41:15.719 --> 0:41:20.600
<v Speaker 1>that he'd stolen from the Texas National Guard armory. If

0:41:20.600 --> 0:41:24.600
<v Speaker 1>they had looked into this place at all, they would

0:41:24.680 --> 0:41:27.439
<v Speaker 1>have found out that a recent resident had just gone

0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 1>to prison for murder for hire. No one wanted to

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:38.720
<v Speaker 1>take the blame for this. John Bryant complained that people

0:41:38.719 --> 0:41:43.400
<v Speaker 1>were overreacting to the reports of firearm training, saying, quote,

0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:46.920
<v Speaker 1>we're not teaching these boys how to snipe. They only

0:41:46.960 --> 0:41:51.440
<v Speaker 1>shoot a few rounds, not proficiently by any means of

0:41:51.480 --> 0:41:55.920
<v Speaker 1>his lessons. On strangulation, Joe Bogart said it was perfectly

0:41:55.960 --> 0:41:58.920
<v Speaker 1>normal when he was in boot camp to strangle his

0:41:58.960 --> 0:42:03.640
<v Speaker 1>fellow Marines to the point of unconsciousness, but because these

0:42:03.640 --> 0:42:07.160
<v Speaker 1>were just children, quote, we didn't have the boys choke

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.120
<v Speaker 1>each other out. We just showed them how to do it.

0:42:11.239 --> 0:42:14.800
<v Speaker 1>Parents reported hearing from their children that they'd received lectures

0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:19.399
<v Speaker 1>on guerrilla warfare that were laden with racial slurs. One

0:42:19.440 --> 0:42:21.160
<v Speaker 1>boy told his mother that he didn't want to go

0:42:21.280 --> 0:42:23.840
<v Speaker 1>back after hearing that their next lesson would be on

0:42:23.920 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 1>plane hijacking. Two separate families pulled their children out after

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:32.120
<v Speaker 1>boys confided in a parent that the frequent lectures about

0:42:32.239 --> 0:42:37.120
<v Speaker 1>killing people were frightening them. One mother pulled her two

0:42:37.160 --> 0:42:39.319
<v Speaker 1>sons out of the program when they told her that

0:42:39.360 --> 0:42:42.360
<v Speaker 1>their next outing would be a trip down to the

0:42:42.440 --> 0:42:47.920
<v Speaker 1>border to watch for people crossing illegally. And by nineteen

0:42:48.000 --> 0:42:51.920
<v Speaker 1>eighty Louis Beam had rather famously been associated with a

0:42:52.000 --> 0:42:55.680
<v Speaker 1>Clan Vigilanti group at the border. So this wasn't some

0:42:55.920 --> 0:42:58.840
<v Speaker 1>idle notion. This is something that this group had done before.

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.840
<v Speaker 1>There's no evidence that they ever actually took these children

0:43:02.880 --> 0:43:05.959
<v Speaker 1>to the border, but that may be because the camp

0:43:06.040 --> 0:43:10.760
<v Speaker 1>was canceled by the following week. In the weeks following

0:43:10.800 --> 0:43:17.040
<v Speaker 1>these initial revelations, spokesmen for various organizations scrambled between was

0:43:17.080 --> 0:43:20.320
<v Speaker 1>it really that bad to we didn't know? We couldn't

0:43:20.360 --> 0:43:24.760
<v Speaker 1>have known. There's no way we could have known. Local

0:43:24.760 --> 0:43:27.560
<v Speaker 1>representatives from the Boy Scouts claim they had the FBI

0:43:27.680 --> 0:43:33.319
<v Speaker 1>run background checks on the camp's instructors. The FBI explicitly

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:38.520
<v Speaker 1>denied that that wasn't something that they even offer. That

0:43:38.640 --> 0:43:42.560
<v Speaker 1>same spokesman then defended himself, saying, well, it wouldn't actually

0:43:42.600 --> 0:43:45.239
<v Speaker 1>even be possible to look into the backgrounds of all

0:43:45.280 --> 0:43:49.480
<v Speaker 1>their volunteers because there were so many, and all three

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:52.800
<v Speaker 1>of these Scout masters were already members of the Civil

0:43:52.800 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>Air Patrol, So why hadn't they already known about the

0:43:56.239 --> 0:44:02.080
<v Speaker 1>men's backgrounds. Cescente was pretty publicly the second in command

0:44:02.120 --> 0:44:06.040
<v Speaker 1>of the Texas Emergency Reserve, which was Lewis Beams Clan

0:44:06.160 --> 0:44:12.800
<v Speaker 1>Special Forces paramilitary outfit. Ccente would repeatedly deny being involved

0:44:12.840 --> 0:44:16.000
<v Speaker 1>with the clan in any way, but you can see

0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:19.880
<v Speaker 1>him out in public doing security for clan events, and

0:44:19.960 --> 0:44:26.200
<v Speaker 1>he owned property with the Grand Dragon. And again, they

0:44:26.239 --> 0:44:32.240
<v Speaker 1>weren't being sneaky about their intentions. Aside from Cesente's feudal

0:44:32.320 --> 0:44:36.240
<v Speaker 1>reluctance to admit he was literally a klansman. They weren't

0:44:36.239 --> 0:44:40.080
<v Speaker 1>really lying to anybody about who they were or what

0:44:40.120 --> 0:44:42.400
<v Speaker 1>they planned to do. They told everybody what was going

0:44:42.480 --> 0:44:45.759
<v Speaker 1>to happen. They had those meetings with the leaders from

0:44:45.760 --> 0:44:49.160
<v Speaker 1>the Boy Scouts and the Civil Air Patrol. They filled

0:44:49.200 --> 0:44:52.120
<v Speaker 1>out an application for a charter with the Boy Scouts

0:44:52.120 --> 0:44:55.840
<v Speaker 1>of America, and that charter had already been approved at

0:44:55.880 --> 0:44:59.440
<v Speaker 1>the national level by the time this happened. It was

0:44:59.520 --> 0:45:04.400
<v Speaker 1>pending with the local council. When the story broke, of course,

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:07.800
<v Speaker 1>they rejected the application. I mean, now that everybody's complaining

0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:11.880
<v Speaker 1>about it, they know better. So Campuller's application for a

0:45:11.880 --> 0:45:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Boy Scout charter did ultimately get denied after the story broke,

0:45:19.160 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 1>But the county prosecutor said none of this was any

0:45:21.400 --> 0:45:26.280
<v Speaker 1>of his business. There's no crime here. The government declined

0:45:26.280 --> 0:45:28.960
<v Speaker 1>to intervene. Nobody was going to shut them down. But

0:45:29.040 --> 0:45:31.480
<v Speaker 1>in the weeks following these revelations about the Boy Scout

0:45:31.520 --> 0:45:35.279
<v Speaker 1>camp ccente said he was going to close Camp Puller voluntarily.

0:45:36.480 --> 0:45:38.239
<v Speaker 1>He lived on the property and he said all this

0:45:38.320 --> 0:45:42.399
<v Speaker 1>attention was making it unsafe for his family. He also

0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:45.520
<v Speaker 1>complained about it being unfair that he was being smeared

0:45:45.520 --> 0:45:48.400
<v Speaker 1>with the stigma of these clan associations, something which again

0:45:48.480 --> 0:45:53.239
<v Speaker 1>he knew nothing about. A Few weeks later, after the

0:45:53.280 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>Houston Chronicle dug up a photograph of Cesente wearing a

0:45:56.560 --> 0:46:00.960
<v Speaker 1>clan robe and an audio recording of Cesente speaking at

0:46:00.960 --> 0:46:04.360
<v Speaker 1>a clan rally where he was introduced by a clan

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:08.520
<v Speaker 1>member who said that he also was a clan member.

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:12.160
<v Speaker 1>He did half heartedly admit that he'd attended a clan

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:17.840
<v Speaker 1>rallier too. Louis Beam vowed to continue training people of

0:46:17.880 --> 0:46:21.280
<v Speaker 1>all ages for the coming race war. At a clan

0:46:21.360 --> 0:46:26.160
<v Speaker 1>rally a few weeks after Campuller closed in December, he said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>we've trade eight year olds, but I'd like to start

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<v Speaker 1>him even younger, maybe at six. He denied promoting racial warfare,

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<v Speaker 1>but he said that this military training for clan families

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<v Speaker 1>was a matter of survival for the white race, and

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<v Speaker 1>a few weeks later neighbors heard the gunfire start up again.

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<v Speaker 1>In early nineteen eighty one, the clan's violent harassment of

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<v Speaker 1>those Vietnamese fishermen in the bay was starting to heat up.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't worry about all the loups who sends this week.

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<v Speaker 1>I just wanted to tell you about race war camp

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<v Speaker 1>for kids. But I promise I wasn't wasting your time.

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<v Speaker 1>You'll hear about all these guys again. Eventually, John Bryant,

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<v Speaker 1>the scout master with the Federal Firearms Charge, was found

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<v Speaker 1>dead of an apparent overdose just a few months after

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<v Speaker 1>the boy Scout scandal. His death wasn't related to this scandal, though.

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<v Speaker 1>In the weeks before his death, the FBI and the

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<v Speaker 1>ATF had busted dozens of Nazis and Klansmen in a

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<v Speaker 1>massive international plot to overthrow the government of the Caribbean

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<v Speaker 1>island of Dominica. Bryant had apparently been recruiting aspiring mercenaries

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<v Speaker 1>for the invasion that never happened, and Louis Dean well.

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<v Speaker 1>According to the jury that acquitted him, he wasn't doing

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<v Speaker 1>anything but allegedly maybe, depending on who you believe. He

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<v Speaker 1>spent most of the eighties working behind the scenes on

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<v Speaker 1>a massive nationwide seditious conspiracy. Hard to say nothing ever

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<v Speaker 1>stuck to him. Weird little guys. It's a production of

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