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Speaker 1: January thirty first, nineteen ninety three, Rose Bowl Stadium, Pasadena, California,

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Speaker 1: National Anthem, Garth Brooks coin toss, OJ Simpson halftime show,

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Speaker 1: Michael Jackson postgame celebration, Bernie Madoff quarterback, Troy Aikman, running back,

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Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith wide receiver. You know, Michael Irvan. This is

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty seven. Hello, and welcome to Games with

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Speaker 1: Names presented by Win Bett. I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Sam Morrel.

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Speaker 1: We're on the search to find the greatest games ever

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Speaker 1: all time. And today's episode Buffalo Bills versus the Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: January thirty first, nineteen ninety three, Super Bowl twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: I can already hear the sadness in your voice. There's

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Speaker 1: a area, kid, There's there's multiple sadnesses. But we at

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Speaker 1: Michael Irvin. He's gonna come on. He's the only thing

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Speaker 1: that makes me happy about this this particular game. And

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Speaker 1: my first thoughts of this game is a I'd be

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Speaker 1: so sad to be a Buffalo Bills fan. This is

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Speaker 1: this is third straight loss in the Super Bowl. Wow,

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Speaker 1: b Dallas Cowboys had to beat my Niners to get

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Speaker 1: in this game. So didn't love them. Yeah, this was

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Speaker 1: a start of you know, the Dallas Cowboys becoming the

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Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys of the nineties, the Jimmy Johnson, how about

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Speaker 1: them Cowboys like Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith, Michael Irvin, leon Let,

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Speaker 1: Charles Haley. This is the Norton the America's team, Dallas Cowboys.

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Speaker 1: It's Texas's team. That's Texas's team, the Dallas Cowboys. But

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Speaker 1: everyone says it is America's team, and it is, it is.

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Speaker 1: And I'll tell you this, man, we played Dallas Cowboys

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Speaker 1: back in a few years back. They came to Old

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Speaker 1: Foxborough and they travel, They travel, their guys, they travel,

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Speaker 1: their fans. The people love the Dallas Cowboys, absolutely love

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. I can't sit the name right. That's

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Speaker 1: you've trained yourself to not respect the name enough to

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Speaker 1: say it properly. Yeah. I don't know about that, but yeah,

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Speaker 1: I just don't like them. It's just it. I like,

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Speaker 1: I have a bunch of friends. Would you grew up

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Speaker 1: a Niners and then and then you played for the Patriots.

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Speaker 1: I I don't like them either. I'm a group of

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Speaker 1: Giants fans. Wouldn't you think like isn't it more logical

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Speaker 1: that the Patriots should be America's team Red white and

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Speaker 1: blue or Patriots Massachusetts basically made America feel like I

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Speaker 1: don't feel we're getting a little carried away. Now, Now,

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Speaker 1: why are the Patriots Americas? I get the Red Giants

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Speaker 1: are red, white and blue, but it's a giant. It's

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Speaker 1: a mythical character. A patriot is an actual person that

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Speaker 1: created militias to fend off the Red Coats. What would

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Speaker 1: you call America tiny or would you say it's a giant?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it's technically not the biggest country in the world,

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Speaker 1: but it's But we're a giant, number one military. We're

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Speaker 1: not the most populated. Well, we're not the richest. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we don't have the most money. We've got money, though,

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Speaker 1: but you know what we do have. But you know

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Speaker 1: what we do have patriots. Patriotism, baby, patriotism. Let's go

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Speaker 1: back to nineteen ninety three, January thirty. First, boy, this

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Speaker 1: is a throwback. What was going on. Number one movie

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Speaker 1: Aladdin for the third week in a row. Classic. I

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Speaker 1: actually remember watching this and like loving it, loving it.

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Speaker 1: This is when like Disney cartoon movies were just popping

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Speaker 1: off left and right. I think, didn't Lang King come

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Speaker 1: after this? I think, so, you know, I can show

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Speaker 1: you the world that was beautiful. That's all I know.

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Speaker 1: The Magic carper Ride. Oh yeah, dude. Jasmine was hot.

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Speaker 1: Jasmine was a hot cartoon. Jasmine can get it to

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Speaker 1: this day, Jasmine. I know you're not real, but Julian

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Speaker 1: and myself were horny for you. We're horny for cartoon Jasmine.

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Speaker 1: And then you know, Robin Williams, Oh my god, he

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Speaker 1: was so good. And then I forgot the genie. Golbert

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Speaker 1: Godfried is the parrot the oh yes, rip, also damn rip.

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Speaker 1: Met Robin Williams once at the Comedy Seller. Spoke for

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Speaker 1: like forty five minutes. Such a cool guy, so quiet

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Speaker 1: and kind and a great gri You got to you

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Speaker 1: spoke with him for forty five minutes. I just sat

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Speaker 1: There's a comics table in the back of the Comedy

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Speaker 1: And I just said oh hey, and he goes hey, Robin.

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Speaker 1: I was like, I know you. I'm Sam talk for

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Speaker 1: like forty five minutes, Warmest guy ever positive, you know,

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Speaker 1: but I loved his movies, Oh my god, Jack, Missus, Doubtfire,

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Speaker 1: which I was like during this time too. Yeah, bi centennial,

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Speaker 1: bicentennial man Flubber Flubber. I fucked with Flubber. I mean

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Speaker 1: That was a banger. Holy Jumanji was damn it. It's

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Speaker 1: still and it still holds up Jumanji holds up it Jack,

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Speaker 1: Bonnie Hunt, shut up Bonnie Hunt. Right. Yeah, number one

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Speaker 1: song in America, I Will Always Love You by Whitney Houston.

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Speaker 1: Another so many rips this episode. It was Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: actually heard this story fourteen weeks at number one record

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Speaker 1: of all time, written by Dolly Parton. Damn reminds me

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Speaker 1: of the time the Patriots spent eighteen weeks at number one,

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Speaker 1: followed by one giant loss. Yeah that it was a

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Speaker 1: it wasn't on the team, Damn, Joe, Lene, Dolly pardon.

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Speaker 1: Dolly Parton number one record, Dolly Pardon Killer Love Dolly.

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Speaker 1: She's such a she's so adorable her voice. Yeah, like

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Speaker 1: you hear her voice and you're like, she's adorable, Jack,

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Speaker 1: isn't she adorable? Love Dolly? Dolly Dolly is a legend?

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Speaker 1: There I saw was there like that? I think there's

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Speaker 1: a documentary. Let's get back to Whitney for a second. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I had such a crush on Whitney after

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Speaker 1: the Bodyguard super High, Kevin Costner super High. That's when, like,

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Speaker 1: I jump over started loving black chicks. Bro. Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: was your Bronxtail moment. This is my Bronxtail moment. Hell. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I watched the bronx Tail and I had a black girlfriend,

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Speaker 1: did you? And so I like, I like was emotionally

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Speaker 1: attached to this this movie because of that. Bronxtail is

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Speaker 1: a great movie, unbelievable. Chas Pulmitary man legend, chess Pulmitary legend.

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Speaker 1: Yeah he was, he was. Didn't he get in trouble?

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Speaker 1: all right? Is he? Yeah? He's uh, he's great. He's

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Speaker 1: my friend christ Stefano, one of my one of my

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Speaker 1: good friends, comedian Christa Stefano, shot a pilot with him

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Speaker 1: and he had Chess Pumitary play his dad, and his

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Speaker 1: but Chess palmentary just shows up in like a ten

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Speaker 1: I was like, I love that. I love that story.

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Speaker 1: Some of the ridiculous trends going on the clear drinks

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Speaker 1: crystal PEPSI. What were we doing? Guys got pepsi works,

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Speaker 1: We don't need clear PEPSI. Now I'm thinking seven Up.

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Speaker 1: You're you're hurting your own business. I must confess you

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Speaker 1: so much, but it was like more expensive. Why. I

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Speaker 1: know why. I like, this looks like seven up, but

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Speaker 1: it tastes like pepsi. That See, that did nothing for

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Speaker 1: me because I'm like, it's the same product. You just

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Speaker 1: white chicks to black chicks, but you went from dark

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Speaker 1: pepsi to white pepsi at this time, and another clear

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Speaker 1: drink that you probably like. You you love Zema. I

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Speaker 1: bet I love Zema? Do I bet you loved it?

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Speaker 1: I didn't like it. Zema was whack. Zema was like

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Speaker 1: samiranov Ice pre smiranov Ice that I like smeirof because

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Speaker 1: I was like, I could take this, motherfucker. I'm not

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Speaker 1: about to get sucked up by a Zema drinker. I'll

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Speaker 1: tell you that much. You remember the uh what is

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Speaker 1: it the Schmeiranoff challenge or that like you got iced

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Speaker 1: did a similar thing in the heroin community. But you've

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Speaker 1: two thousand and eight, and we're way off where we're

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Speaker 1: put a smirnoff Ice in there. That's classy, Like what

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Speaker 1: We had to chug it. Smirnoff Ice were like, you

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Speaker 1: a nice gateway. Uh, premium malt beverage. Yeah, you always

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Speaker 1: mean the Pink Ranger was hot for sure. Can we

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Speaker 1: pink Power Ranger. But I remember like it was all that,

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Speaker 1: Yeah she was adorable. Yeah, cutie Power Rangers Man Power Range.

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Speaker 1: growing up. I love the nineties nixt I mean I

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Speaker 1: Uh final season of Quantum Leap. Never watched the show,

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Speaker 1: never saw it. Scott Bakula, Is that who it was?

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Speaker 1: I dug that movie. It's Back to the Mind. That

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Speaker 1: was the the third Yeah, Downtown Anderson, no One, I

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Speaker 1: gotta watch it. It's Jackie what you got? Yeah it

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Speaker 1: was Bacula. Yeah, shut out Bacula. Here's your uh, Lauren Bobbitt,

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Speaker 1: Lorena Bobbit, Lorena Bobbit. She cuts off John Wayne Bobbitt's penis.

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Speaker 1: I cannot picture Snoop running rafts. That's like a I

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Speaker 1: is it had a little smiley face, I believe, and

416
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: it said Brady's dildo. I mean, and then and then

417
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 1: I'm obviously shy, Wayne and Bob, and he threw it.

418
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,120
Speaker 1: He got it. He got it on set and I'm

419
00:24:44,119 --> 00:24:48,600
Speaker 1: looking at the referee and he's looking everyone's looking at

420
00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:51,440
Speaker 1: someone like, hey, who's picking this thing up? I think

421
00:24:51,480 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: I saw one of the refs like kick it with

422
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:56,080
Speaker 1: his foot, like he was terrified to touch it. No

423
00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: one was touching it was. It was hilarious. We're in

424
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,880
Speaker 1: the middle of a fucking drive. I'm sitting here trying

425
00:25:00,880 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 1: to focus. We're like, you know, gotta be a next play,

426
00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 1: next play. I see this dildo there, I just start giggling.

427
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:09,360
Speaker 1: I'm like, what are we doing? These fucking people are

428
00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 1: absolutely bananas. I love the whole The guy goes to

429
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,679
Speaker 1: the store to get that give me your biggest dildo,

430
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 1: pink one. Yeah, I want a pink dildo. Yeah. Yeah,

431
00:25:21,960 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 1: that's fucking Now it's to the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, crazy, crazy,

432
00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: crazy start to a new generation of Cowboys. They were

433
00:25:31,920 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: hurting in the seventies. In this year of nineteen ninety two,

434
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,840
Speaker 1: they were thirteen and three, first in the NFC East.

435
00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:44,719
Speaker 1: This is the third consecutive NFC East team representing the

436
00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,320
Speaker 1: NFC in the Super Bowl. Giants and now the Commanders.

437
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: Back then the Redskins. The R words, our words. Can't

438
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:57,199
Speaker 1: say Redskins anymore. I don't know. You know this is

439
00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: you know, we're sensitive everyone here except Weinstein apparently. Yeah.

440
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:08,320
Speaker 1: L Hitler, Yeah, I don't Hehitler. I don't care who

441
00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 1: we pissed off with that Hitler comment. Yeah, sponsors want

442
00:26:11,080 --> 00:26:13,440
Speaker 1: to pull out because we don't like Hitler. That's your problem.

443
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:18,159
Speaker 1: They need to get out. And so Jimmy Johnson was

444
00:26:18,160 --> 00:26:22,520
Speaker 1: in his fourth season as the head coach. Yeah, coming

445
00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:25,680
Speaker 1: from the U Miami where he actually won a national

446
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:31,840
Speaker 1: championship with our Interviewee, that's crazy, it is. It is nuts.

447
00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:35,680
Speaker 1: He's the first coach ever to win a ball and Natty.

448
00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,120
Speaker 1: How many times has that been done? I think he's

449
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:42,840
Speaker 1: the only who are the others? Barry Switzer with the

450
00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: Cowboys after Jimmy and then most recently Pete Carroll, Pete Carroll.

451
00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 1: Oh Pete, Oh Pete. NFC championship game they beat the Niners.

452
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:05,320
Speaker 1: That was the hump that they needed to still hurt. No,

453
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: not really. You've had a good life. Yeah, we're good,

454
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 1: but I mean it's just it hurt at the time.

455
00:27:11,320 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: At the time. Yeah, like that was like heyday of

456
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:17,200
Speaker 1: like watching like that's like some of the earliest football

457
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:20,080
Speaker 1: memories were watching those old Niner Niner games. You know,

458
00:27:20,160 --> 00:27:23,000
Speaker 1: Steve Young coming in and going out and then he

459
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: finally got the monkey off his back the next year

460
00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 1: when they won. But uh, key players for the Cowboys,

461
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:34,920
Speaker 1: you of course had Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith led the

462
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,359
Speaker 1: league in rushing for the second straight year. Mike Irving Killer,

463
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:44,919
Speaker 1: Emmitt Smith. Emmitt Smith. He just he just a producer. Yeah,

464
00:27:45,359 --> 00:27:49,240
Speaker 1: he wasn't like unlike Harvey Weinstein. He was a good producer.

465
00:27:50,119 --> 00:27:51,840
Speaker 1: I guess Winstein's movies were good, but he was a

466
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 1: bad man, bad man. Emmitt Smith good producer, good producer,

467
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,959
Speaker 1: good man. Yeah, and uh yeah, tight end j Novid

468
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 1: check you had offensive line Nate Newton, crazy good offensive line.

469
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 1: I mean, I think you could run behind him. I

470
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: don't know about that. Maybe I'd run the other way. Jack,

471
00:28:14,040 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 1: what do you think Sam's going for at least a

472
00:28:17,040 --> 00:28:20,440
Speaker 1: thousand yards season? A thousand? You're giving me at least

473
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: a thousands. I think I'm getting injured day one and

474
00:28:23,480 --> 00:28:28,040
Speaker 1: walking away from the game. They they had Leon Lett,

475
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: Charles Haley, Ken Norton. Would that hurt? That one hurt? Yeah?

476
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:36,280
Speaker 1: Because you know he then he came over to the Niners.

477
00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:39,160
Speaker 1: We flip flopped him, right, We got him after before

478
00:28:39,240 --> 00:28:42,360
Speaker 1: after he went back to back because after this year,

479
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 1: I think he went to the Niners. The next year

480
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl at the Niners. Pretty nuts. Narrative

481
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 1: this year for this team was that the team was

482
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: trying to recapture Landry's glory years with Jimmy Johnson and

483
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: having you know, Jerry Jerry Jones in there firing Lan injury,

484
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:09,360
Speaker 1: starting a new chapter of Cowboys history. They were coming

485
00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: off their first winning season in five years, youngest team

486
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: at the time in the NFL, number one ranked defense.

487
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:21,400
Speaker 1: Not a lot of people talking about that. They didn't

488
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,520
Speaker 1: have a pro bowler. How do you How are you

489
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,640
Speaker 1: the number one defense? You don't have one Pro bowler.

490
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:27,880
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've had I've been on plenty number

491
00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,480
Speaker 1: one offenses where we weren't represented at the Pro Bowl enough.

492
00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:34,440
Speaker 1: I think you should have been. I think you should

493
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: have been. Yeah. It was the first Cowboys Super Bowl

494
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:43,480
Speaker 1: in fifteen years. They were out to prove that they

495
00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:48,760
Speaker 1: were still America's team, and it turned into becoming the

496
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:52,160
Speaker 1: team of the decade. They dominated. They were like the

497
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 1: team that people just like. You saw that jersey everywhere, everywhere, everywhere,

498
00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:01,960
Speaker 1: and it was Aikman, Emmett, uh Irvin and then later Dion.

499
00:30:02,080 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 1: Those are the ones you saw, Dion. I saw you

500
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:08,760
Speaker 1: see some Ken Norton. Uh yeah, I mean those are

501
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,640
Speaker 1: the three, those are the four, Those are the main ones.

502
00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Those are the main ones. Yeah, let's get the game.

503
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:21,280
Speaker 1: They were cool jerseys, the early ones. I can't confirm,

504
00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:23,960
Speaker 1: nor can I tonight. I'm trying to be I'm not

505
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan either, but we have to be unbiased

506
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,520
Speaker 1: sometimes here. Yeah, but I mean it's I mean, what's

507
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,320
Speaker 1: so good? I mean, you want to see a really

508
00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: cool looking uniform. You look at like red and gold,

509
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 1: like red white and gold. Yeah, people that objectively, they

510
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:45,520
Speaker 1: were also cool cool jerseys. I just never I never, never,

511
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: never a fan of the Cowboys Jersey Star. Yeah, I mean,

512
00:30:51,560 --> 00:30:52,840
Speaker 1: what do you guys think? Am I am? I off

513
00:30:52,880 --> 00:30:58,520
Speaker 1: base here? No jack their classics I hae to admit it,

514
00:30:58,560 --> 00:31:02,080
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean the classics. It was never a

515
00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:06,160
Speaker 1: blue guy, red guy. You're like blue. Eh, you are

516
00:31:06,160 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: in red and I'm in blue. Right now, this feels

517
00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 1: like like a turf war. It's just some gang shit

518
00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: on our podcast exactly. You know, in my high school,

519
00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: you couldn't wear any shades of red or blue? What

520
00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,120
Speaker 1: would you wear? I mean I would still wear some

521
00:31:22,160 --> 00:31:24,600
Speaker 1: shades of red, but you weren't technically supposed to because

522
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 1: of the gang relations shit Na Daniels and Serenos. And

523
00:31:28,600 --> 00:31:30,680
Speaker 1: then later on you end up wearing red all the time,

524
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,360
Speaker 1: right or blue? I mean both my accent color that

525
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:38,080
Speaker 1: I always wore Sam red gloves, all red gloves. Yeah,

526
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: that was my thing. That was now a you know,

527
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,400
Speaker 1: getting a little fired up for Mike. This is fire

528
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: me up, Just fire me up. This is the first

529
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 1: game between Dallas and Buffalo since nineteen eighty four. Yeah,

530
00:31:53,680 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl was originally scheduled for Tempe, Arizona, but

531
00:31:58,520 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: then was moved to Pasadena because beautiful place, Pasadena. Why

532
00:32:06,040 --> 00:32:11,120
Speaker 1: would they move it? Governor Evan Meetcham canceled Arizona State's

533
00:32:11,120 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 1: holiday to honor the Martin Luther King Junior Holiday. Meecham,

534
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,720
Speaker 1: that's like House of Cars. Remember that guy? Meet him, Meacham?

535
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 1: How do you say it? Meecham? He was the guy,

536
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:28,880
Speaker 1: the bodyguard he had gay sex with remember, hooked up

537
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:33,000
Speaker 1: with his wife? Was that? I never watched House of

538
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: Car I did. I watched like the first like Force

539
00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: three seasons or something. I was into it, but it

540
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:39,920
Speaker 1: was solid. I fell off. I have so much add

541
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: when it comes to like staying on a series. Yeah,

542
00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:45,400
Speaker 1: you know, and then like sometimes I'll go to a

543
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: different house and like my HBO is not working, or

544
00:32:50,800 --> 00:32:54,080
Speaker 1: my Netflix I forget the password, but my Amazon's in there,

545
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,000
Speaker 1: So then I'll just end up going to somewhere that

546
00:32:56,120 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. It's it's almost too much

547
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: to handle. You're living situations a house cards. It's a

548
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:05,080
Speaker 1: house of cards. Yeah, got no jokers in there that

549
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,920
Speaker 1: could just all the time slap it. Uh. Thirty second

550
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:12,960
Speaker 1: ad cost eight hundred and fifty thousand dollars. Wow, nineteen

551
00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:17,240
Speaker 1: ninety two, ninety three, that's expensive. That's a lot of dough.

552
00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:19,480
Speaker 1: I wonder what it is now, Yeah, what is it?

553
00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,840
Speaker 1: What is that thirty How much is a thirty second

554
00:33:21,920 --> 00:33:30,520
Speaker 1: Super Bowl ad? Now? Last year it was six point

555
00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:34,000
Speaker 1: five to seven million. That's a lot of money. Seven

556
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: million dollars. That's a lot of money to spend on

557
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 1: an ad. Seven million dollars. Remember in Twins when that's

558
00:33:41,200 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 1: Austin Powers, No, when uh, Danny DeVito was negotiating with

559
00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,160
Speaker 1: the guy that had the engine in the back of

560
00:33:48,200 --> 00:33:51,200
Speaker 1: the car and Twins, and he was like he used

561
00:33:51,200 --> 00:33:54,440
Speaker 1: to boost cars and then he thought he was getting

562
00:33:54,480 --> 00:33:57,560
Speaker 1: like eight grand. He's like, no, I can't go eight.

563
00:33:57,600 --> 00:34:00,200
Speaker 1: I want fifteen. And the guy goes, if you don't

564
00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:06,520
Speaker 1: want eight million dollars meal, I don't know. Shout out

565
00:34:06,600 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 1: Danny DeVito. Loved Vito. De Vito is one of the

566
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: best insane career, insane career and famous back from like

567
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,480
Speaker 1: remember One Full of the Cuckoos and Nests. That's Danny DeVito. Yeah,

568
00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 1: he's in It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia. He was the

569
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:24,279
Speaker 1: Penguin and Batman returns great, that's a penguin. You see

570
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 1: Colin Farrell, he's just playing an Italian guy. Yeah, he's like,

571
00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: I'm the penguin. Oh, like, are you or you're just

572
00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:34,280
Speaker 1: an Italian? No? Yeah, it's Danny DeVito is a penguin.

573
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,799
Speaker 1: That guy was eating fish any I mean fish heads

574
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:44,840
Speaker 1: a real penguin. Yeah, Tyler would are you? Sidney Crosby

575
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: is the best penguin. You always have to go out there, Kyler. Always.

576
00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: You always have to bring Crosby into the mix. Oh,

577
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 1: he's a damn good penguin. Can't He's a good penguin.

578
00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:06,279
Speaker 1: Things we were Buffalo and poor Jim Kelly, Poor Jim

579
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,920
Speaker 1: Kelly are going into the great quarterback to great quarterback. Yeah,

580
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:13,600
Speaker 1: they're going into the third third consecutive loss of the

581
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,760
Speaker 1: Super Bowl turns into four the next year after playing

582
00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:21,120
Speaker 1: the Cowboys again second consecutive year, and that's when the

583
00:35:21,120 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 1: Cowboys went back to back on them. We also remember

584
00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,200
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson after the game, how about them Cowboys? Classic?

585
00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: I hate to say it, but it's classic. It's classic.

586
00:35:31,120 --> 00:35:34,680
Speaker 1: It's classic. Over Yeah, and we also remember they won

587
00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,560
Speaker 1: against the Niners. Things we made for gotten. This was

588
00:35:38,600 --> 00:35:40,840
Speaker 1: the last time a Super Bowl was hosted in a

589
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: non NFL stadium. Yeah, that's kind of interesting. It is,

590
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: it is. I mean, I remember the Niners played over

591
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:50,960
Speaker 1: at Stanford. They won a super Bowl at Stanford. I

592
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: think it was either eighty one or so. Weird, but

593
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,960
Speaker 1: those were because they had they held bigger crowds than

594
00:35:57,000 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 1: the NFL stadiums. And now because of the contracts of

595
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:05,759
Speaker 1: getting these these stadiums, and a lot of most of

596
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 1: the time that you have taxpayers paying for this because

597
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:12,000
Speaker 1: the NFL promises that they'll bring the Super Bowl event

598
00:36:12,280 --> 00:36:16,200
Speaker 1: to the city, therefore helping the economic stimulus of the

599
00:36:16,239 --> 00:36:19,239
Speaker 1: whole entire city. So that now it's like negotiated in

600
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 1: that it has to go into these these stadiums because

601
00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,879
Speaker 1: that's how it helps pay them off. I think interesting, Jack,

602
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 1: do we even note. Yeah, Garth Brooks actually scheduled to

603
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: sing the national anthem accompanied by Marley Mattlin, who was

604
00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 1: going to sign the anthem for deaf fans, and Brooks

605
00:36:35,760 --> 00:36:38,919
Speaker 1: came very close to not performing as anthem, nearly left

606
00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:42,799
Speaker 1: the stadium in a dispute with NBC in the NFL

607
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 1: because they were refusing to run the video for his

608
00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 1: song we Shall Be Free, which was protesting a lot

609
00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,720
Speaker 1: of the racial unrest in the country and the Rodney

610
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:55,800
Speaker 1: King riots in the crowd. John bon Jovi. The NFL

611
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: was prepared to turn to bon Jovi to sing it

612
00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:01,160
Speaker 1: if Garth left the stadium, but they showed the video,

613
00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 1: coaxed him backs in, back in, and uh Garth got

614
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,520
Speaker 1: up there and builted it out. Uh. Just a little

615
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: side note, Garth Garth fight the power. Geez, look at

616
00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:15,799
Speaker 1: the old John Bond like, I like, I like bon Jovi.

617
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,439
Speaker 1: He's a friend. Yeah, he's a friend, John bon Joe.

618
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,640
Speaker 1: He's pretty cool. That's the hell of a name drop

619
00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: right there. Well, he's he's friends with mister Kraft and

620
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:27,359
Speaker 1: so he was always in our locker rooms. That's pretty cool,

621
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:29,560
Speaker 1: and so we developed a little He's such a he's

622
00:37:29,600 --> 00:37:31,879
Speaker 1: a really good guy. I forget how many people Julian knows,

623
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:34,440
Speaker 1: right sometimes because because I'm like, oh, yeah, I like Bonjovi,

624
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,959
Speaker 1: goes Yes, he's a he's a friend. I wasn't trying,

625
00:37:38,120 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: but I just want to give him listen to this

626
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: you've met you. I can't just like run over his name.

627
00:37:42,719 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: And if he listens to our podcast, met cool. People. Yes,

628
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:49,040
Speaker 1: we had rose at his house in Hampton's. Okay, I

629
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:51,319
Speaker 1: got a little and he's got a rose company coming out.

630
00:37:51,440 --> 00:37:58,280
Speaker 1: How's Hampton's place? Beautiful? Yeah, beautiful, damn good stuff? Bon Jovi,

631
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:04,360
Speaker 1: John bon Jovi. Yeah, he's very into Like did he

632
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,239
Speaker 1: spend the night there? No, I didn't spend the night.

633
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,080
Speaker 1: We just asked you did he say you could if

634
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,520
Speaker 1: you wanted to. I didn't want to ruin my welcome

635
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:14,399
Speaker 1: fair enough, you know, so I didn't even. I didn't even.

636
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put that in his on his plate.

637
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,680
Speaker 1: But he he busted out some nice rose. Yeah, he's

638
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,120
Speaker 1: got his his son has a rose company. We're gonna

639
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,399
Speaker 1: have to figure it out what it is. We give

640
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,760
Speaker 1: him a little shout out. But yeah, it was delicious rose.

641
00:38:28,280 --> 00:38:31,200
Speaker 1: And it was a beautiful summer night. Yeah, it was

642
00:38:31,239 --> 00:38:35,240
Speaker 1: a beautiful summer night. John bon Jovi listening some good tunes,

643
00:38:35,400 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: drinking some rose, talking about you know, recovery. You know,

644
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:42,879
Speaker 1: he's he's big into his body, really yeah, very big

645
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,640
Speaker 1: into his body. So he's always talking you know about

646
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,600
Speaker 1: like how how did you recover when you got older

647
00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,440
Speaker 1: in age? And you know that's that we dealt a

648
00:38:50,440 --> 00:38:53,480
Speaker 1: little relationship over that. I love it. John, If you're listening,

649
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:57,080
Speaker 1: thank you. We we He's got some good stories about

650
00:38:57,080 --> 00:38:58,920
Speaker 1: the Giants. We should get him on somehow. Let's get

651
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:02,520
Speaker 1: bon Jovi on. He's got some really good stories about

652
00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 1: the Giants that he told me. He was like their

653
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:07,279
Speaker 1: good luck charm for a while in the eighties. No shit,

654
00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: he was always on the sideline and shit, he was

655
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 1: hanging out with like Belichick back when he Belichick was

656
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,440
Speaker 1: an assistant coach. Let's get him on, man, gotta get

657
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:17,359
Speaker 1: him on. OJ did the coin toss for this game.

658
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:25,000
Speaker 1: This was right before his It's literally very very close. Huh. Yeah,

659
00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:28,759
Speaker 1: this is ninety three. It happened in ninety four. Yeah, boy,

660
00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 1: Maybe he was doing his own little coin toss. Maybe

661
00:39:31,880 --> 00:39:37,120
Speaker 1: he was like heads, I forgive her tails. I don't

662
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:41,760
Speaker 1: two face. Two face dude, OJ. He's a two face.

663
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 1: He can be very pleasant on TV. He could also

664
00:39:45,360 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: be a murderer. Did you see him recently, like in

665
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:51,440
Speaker 1: Vegas with some chicks? No, or what he did? It's weird,

666
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 1: wasn't it. Do you guys see that? Yeah? Oj' is

667
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: all over the place out there. He's in Vegas. Yeah,

668
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 1: he's in Vegas just hanging. It's crazy see that he

669
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:02,920
Speaker 1: got off the murder charge, but then he went away

670
00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,560
Speaker 1: for stealing memorabile. That's one of the old time memorabilia. Yeah,

671
00:40:06,600 --> 00:40:12,800
Speaker 1: his own shit. That's one of the old time weird spins. Yeah.

672
00:40:13,000 --> 00:40:17,319
Speaker 1: What goes around comes around. I guess not really because

673
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:20,240
Speaker 1: he's out now. It's literally like, it's like if Winstein

674
00:40:20,280 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: went down for tax evasion, he'd be like, all right,

675
00:40:23,000 --> 00:40:26,840
Speaker 1: that's how they got compone. Yeah, so how they got copone? Yeah?

676
00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:30,000
Speaker 1: And he also didn't Capone die of like syphilis or something.

677
00:40:30,040 --> 00:40:32,799
Speaker 1: He did die of syphilis. Weird, and he had some

678
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,560
Speaker 1: uh some Is that a gangster way to go out

679
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 1: or No? That's a good point. Did he get in prison?

680
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,279
Speaker 1: How do he? Ooh, that's tough. Alcatraz? He did? You've

681
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,520
Speaker 1: been Alcatraz never? It's awesome. Yeah, I gotta go. It's fun.

682
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,160
Speaker 1: All right. Let's get to the gaming corner presented by

683
00:40:54,400 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 1: win Bet. What's the prop bet going to be? I

684
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 1: don't know what are you thinking? I'm thinking? I mean

685
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,680
Speaker 1: saying America's team as much as possible, Like, can we

686
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:10,319
Speaker 1: get America's team seven times? I think we can do it?

687
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:15,759
Speaker 1: Is that too high? It is seven crazy? Or you

688
00:41:15,760 --> 00:41:17,960
Speaker 1: could do how many times? How about them Cowboys? That's

689
00:41:18,000 --> 00:41:20,440
Speaker 1: like a four for me? Yeah, how about them cowboys?

690
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: How about them cowboys? Isn't that? For those of you

691
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: knew to the pod. We do this every week. This

692
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:29,800
Speaker 1: is a prop bet. We throw it into the interview.

693
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:33,479
Speaker 1: We try to make it a little fun. How about

694
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,120
Speaker 1: the National Football League? How many times will Michael say that?

695
00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: At least three? All right, so we got three that

696
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 1: we can now, so two and a half should be

697
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: the spread. Let's do we got we gotta do the

698
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:53,240
Speaker 1: America's team, because this is America's team right for the nineties,

699
00:41:53,320 --> 00:42:00,560
Speaker 1: no question, seventies in seventies. All right, let's go here

700
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: from old Mike. But before then, let's take a quick break.

701
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:08,759
Speaker 1: And now here on games with names presented by Win Bett,

702
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:16,200
Speaker 1: we are joined by my favorite teammate of my new team.

703
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: Even though you love all your teammate team coolly, three

704
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:24,920
Speaker 1: time Super Bowl Champ, two time second All Pro NFL

705
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:29,600
Speaker 1: nineteen nineties all Decade team. Of course, my teammate on

706
00:42:29,640 --> 00:42:32,320
Speaker 1: inside the NFL, which streams on Paramount Plus. Of course

707
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 1: they call him the playmaker, and he's the current Jumbo

708
00:42:37,320 --> 00:42:43,240
Speaker 1: Tron star overrat Jerry World himself. We got Michael Irvin.

709
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 1: Holy moly, Mike, I got a question. Do you have

710
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:52,880
Speaker 1: your workout gloves on right now as we speak? I

711
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:57,280
Speaker 1: have my workout gloves all right. You can't be putting

712
00:42:57,280 --> 00:42:59,440
Speaker 1: your workout gloves on and having him in here to

713
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 1: let everyone that's watching this, can we see them? Jude,

714
00:43:07,000 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: we've got the city gloved on meet to know they're

715
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: putting your network and guns on me. I did. I honestly,

716
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,799
Speaker 1: I noticed your arms. I didn't notice that. It's all

717
00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:23,399
Speaker 1: let the results speak for themselves, That's all I'm seeing. Jim, Well,

718
00:43:23,719 --> 00:43:25,719
Speaker 1: are we are we? I just want to let you know, like,

719
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,799
Speaker 1: are we are we loationed up? And are we we

720
00:43:27,840 --> 00:43:30,799
Speaker 1: have all the chapstick and everything, because I've never seen

721
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: anyone I never, I've never seen anyone loation up as

722
00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: much as Mike. I gotta tell a quick story before

723
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:40,360
Speaker 1: anything that. I gotta tell you a quick story. I

724
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,160
Speaker 1: gotta say this quick story. Okay, my guy comes in

725
00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:51,080
Speaker 1: fresh off plane. We're in production meeting ten thirty. Mike

726
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:54,720
Speaker 1: comes in with those shoes or socks on. He pulls

727
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: out some lotion and he's lotion in his feet, which

728
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: is it's great, ankle's feet, hands, everything. But the un

729
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:07,200
Speaker 1: cool thing about it was right after my guy comes

730
00:44:07,200 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: and starts touching my face, hugging me up with with

731
00:44:10,480 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: lotion feet. I see, I'm not a feet guy. I'm

732
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:16,360
Speaker 1: not a feat guy. And Mike is over here and

733
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 1: he's putting them in between his toes and shit, so

734
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,040
Speaker 1: you know, like those are like the dirt, and then

735
00:44:21,080 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 1: he's rubbing me on my face. Hey, Jules, I love you,

736
00:44:23,719 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh my god, I couldn't believe it.

737
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: So I'm just making sure we loationed up. Yeah I'm

738
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,080
Speaker 1: load snuff, but just look at her. It was so

739
00:44:34,160 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: funny too. I remember the first time I heard you

740
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:39,640
Speaker 1: and I I was like, yeah, I did. I never

741
00:44:39,960 --> 00:44:43,160
Speaker 1: thought I was just you know, and I'm dark, and

742
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:44,839
Speaker 1: I did a real ask, you know what I'm saying.

743
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: But so I got to get between the toes and

744
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 1: all of that when I do loads sit up, but

745
00:44:50,040 --> 00:44:52,359
Speaker 1: I didn't think about it. I do climb all over

746
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: a dude right out through that door, and I didn't

747
00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:56,560
Speaker 1: think about it. That was so funny. Man, Oh, that's

748
00:44:56,600 --> 00:44:59,720
Speaker 1: so meet him. That's so mean, Yeah, it was funny

749
00:44:59,760 --> 00:45:01,840
Speaker 1: until I got a whiff of it, but it was

750
00:45:01,880 --> 00:45:04,440
Speaker 1: all up in my face. Hey, and my feet are cool, man,

751
00:45:04,520 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: My feet are good. The great I keep them petiture,

752
00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: I stay madature, impetture. I'm one of those, you know,

753
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 1: one of those guys that make sure I keep it

754
00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: all right. The landscape guy. That's what they call them, right, landscape. Yeah,

755
00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:20,399
Speaker 1: we gotta get your endorsement with them. We gotta get

756
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:23,279
Speaker 1: you a little adorsement with them. Well, I appreciate that.

757
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: If you're getting with some more money coming in, I

758
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:28,080
Speaker 1: can take that. I ain't never say no back. Clearly

759
00:45:28,120 --> 00:45:31,040
Speaker 1: that you're going over there. We're doing good man, good man.

760
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:32,920
Speaker 1: I mean, we're pumped to have you on. You know,

761
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: we're both, you know, children of the nineties. So you

762
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:39,680
Speaker 1: were an inspiration. We knew, we knew you partied in

763
00:45:39,719 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: the nineties and you still got results on the field,

764
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,279
Speaker 1: and as a as a nineties kid, I was kind

765
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,240
Speaker 1: of like, if I party, I can be a pro athlete.

766
00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:49,840
Speaker 1: I didn't know you also had to have talent and

767
00:45:49,880 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: work ethic. But you inspired so many kids because that

768
00:45:54,239 --> 00:45:58,359
Speaker 1: those stories were just out there. You know, no, no,

769
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:01,920
Speaker 1: it's all rating too like may, did I set something

770
00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,680
Speaker 1: off wrong? Because the reality is during the season it

771
00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,560
Speaker 1: was different, at least the party. I ain't said it stopped.

772
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm just seeing it at to measure it doing a

773
00:46:10,920 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: little bit more during the season. All season you had

774
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: a little more fun. But but you know what I mean,

775
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:18,279
Speaker 1: I didn't mean to see that mixed message. And you

776
00:46:18,280 --> 00:46:20,399
Speaker 1: can stay out all night and show up and work

777
00:46:20,480 --> 00:46:23,960
Speaker 1: hard and still within that's not necessarily the reality, even

778
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: though I did do it. Not everyone's mic, everyone's mic,

779
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:33,359
Speaker 1: not everyone's maker. Jones used to say, Jerry mit one time,

780
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 1: I can't we came here late. Uh, we were out

781
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,239
Speaker 1: all night. As a matter of fact, me and I

782
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:41,080
Speaker 1: won't blaby god. We were out all night because Thursday night.

783
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:42,719
Speaker 1: We used to go out Thursday night because Friday is

784
00:46:42,760 --> 00:46:44,160
Speaker 1: a light day. Then you know, you go to the

785
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:47,280
Speaker 1: hotel Saturday to play Sunday. So we're out all Thursday

786
00:46:47,360 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: night hanging out with booming and we walk here for

787
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,840
Speaker 1: the nine o'clock meeting at nine thirty. I mean, Jimmy

788
00:46:55,000 --> 00:47:00,279
Speaker 1: was hot. He turned to me, so I'm so then

789
00:47:00,320 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 1: I do to get your ship and get out and

790
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,520
Speaker 1: he cut him on the spot. He cut him on

791
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 1: the spot, you know. And then that day we had

792
00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,920
Speaker 1: to have a team meeting, and that's Kmart, Calvin mart

793
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:14,520
Speaker 1: you sitting in the room and said, listen, man a man,

794
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: y'all keep get ready with Michael. This is Mike. Ain't

795
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,160
Speaker 1: going nowhere. Michael went out all night and one that

796
00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:24,680
Speaker 1: went all day. Y'all can't do that, y'all ain't y'all

797
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:26,520
Speaker 1: will be out of here, you know. So we had

798
00:47:26,520 --> 00:47:29,160
Speaker 1: to have a whole team meeting. And then they've really

799
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: got me a uh, they got me a security team.

800
00:47:32,320 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: Nobody else went out with me with my security team

801
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,719
Speaker 1: that they paid for it, just to make sure that

802
00:47:36,840 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: I was where I needed to be. Is that that's

803
00:47:40,160 --> 00:47:42,239
Speaker 1: I mean, that's when you know you're a legend, is

804
00:47:42,239 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 1: when the rules get adjusted to you. All right, he's

805
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,120
Speaker 1: not gonna be here. So just in case said that,

806
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,840
Speaker 1: Jimmy and Nenna say he adjusted the rules too. He

807
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,759
Speaker 1: just said, you'll say that, you know, I made sure

808
00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: that certain people we can let go in there, certain

809
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,680
Speaker 1: people you work with a little bit better. But he'll

810
00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:01,680
Speaker 1: never say he adjusted the room. No, yeah, yeah, definitely not.

811
00:48:01,840 --> 00:48:04,360
Speaker 1: But you know, maybe gray area of the rule for

812
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: some people. Gray area. Je jim is a lot like

813
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 1: Bill in that staseu jue, you know what I mean,

814
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,680
Speaker 1: he's going to have this foot on. Everybody's going to

815
00:48:13,719 --> 00:48:17,200
Speaker 1: be the leader. But but I don't know it feels

816
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:20,360
Speaker 1: this way, but Jimmy will creep behind the back and

817
00:48:20,600 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: make sure he learns the personality of that player for Charles.

818
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:27,560
Speaker 1: He and Charles talking said Arnson, I just don't like

819
00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 1: to be called out, you know, called out when I

820
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:31,120
Speaker 1: was a kid. I don't like to be called out.

821
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 1: Put him aside and get on your card that you want,

822
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 1: you know. And and they worked around that. But you know,

823
00:48:36,719 --> 00:48:39,400
Speaker 1: he was one of those psychologists made that wanted to

824
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:41,520
Speaker 1: mess with your mind, and he was. He was brilliant

825
00:48:41,560 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 1: about it. And that's I mean, that's what great leaders do.

826
00:48:44,840 --> 00:48:49,680
Speaker 1: They find what makes their guys perform at the best

827
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 1: level that they can perform. And you know, with Mike,

828
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:54,319
Speaker 1: it just so happened that he has to go out

829
00:48:54,320 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: on Thursdays until nine o'clock. And with Charles Haley, you can't.

830
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,680
Speaker 1: You can't yell at him. All right, That's called great leadership,

831
00:49:01,800 --> 00:49:05,160
Speaker 1: that's what it is. You know. I love that these

832
00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: young guys, Oh, I love that these young guys can't

833
00:49:08,200 --> 00:49:10,040
Speaker 1: keep up with you on the field. But then also

834
00:49:10,080 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: you kick them out partying, and they can't keep up

835
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,239
Speaker 1: with you partying like you're showing, they get cut. There's

836
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:18,680
Speaker 1: only one playmaker. There's only one playmaker. There's only one playmaker.

837
00:49:18,719 --> 00:49:21,600
Speaker 1: You're a legend on both ends here. Why that was

838
00:49:21,640 --> 00:49:25,200
Speaker 1: that this guy can't? This guy's a whole different thing.

839
00:49:25,280 --> 00:49:28,359
Speaker 1: It takes three age out come for me anything, you

840
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:30,239
Speaker 1: know what I mean, Not saying I'll try to give

841
00:49:30,280 --> 00:49:31,960
Speaker 1: it a world every now and being just to see

842
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: what kind of man lamb, But but I'm certain about

843
00:49:35,640 --> 00:49:40,440
Speaker 1: the man I used to be. Well, we're here to

844
00:49:40,520 --> 00:49:46,560
Speaker 1: talk about Super Bowl twenty seven, the start, the start

845
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: of America's team becoming America's team once again. They fell

846
00:49:53,120 --> 00:49:56,279
Speaker 1: off in the eighties, in the seventies they took three down,

847
00:49:56,600 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 1: and then in the nineties, I had to see them

848
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:02,200
Speaker 1: all the time. I'm beating up on my fucking Niners

849
00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:06,919
Speaker 1: every year in the playoffs, having these epic batch battles. Now,

850
00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,719
Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson said, once you guys played the forty nine

851
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,640
Speaker 1: ers and if you get past them, it was cake.

852
00:50:12,840 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yeah, we looked at it that way.

853
00:50:16,360 --> 00:50:19,719
Speaker 1: That was. That was in Super twenty seven. We were

854
00:50:19,760 --> 00:50:22,080
Speaker 1: not even supposed to get past the forty nine ers.

855
00:50:22,120 --> 00:50:25,279
Speaker 1: That was. That was that lotest teams, probably a year

856
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 1: away team, you know. But the mentality we had going

857
00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:31,840
Speaker 1: into that game, dude, oh my god, dude, let me

858
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 1: tell you all that it was. It was insane because

859
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:36,720
Speaker 1: we we we I knew we would win that game.

860
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: I knew it because it was like everybody was saying,

861
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: I'm literally ready to die to win this game. Literally

862
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 1: whenever it takes, We're going to win this game. We

863
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,799
Speaker 1: were really literally ready to die to win that game.

864
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 1: And I remember taking a hit on them on a

865
00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:57,239
Speaker 1: skinny post or on the eight route. Skinny post hit me,

866
00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:02,680
Speaker 1: they helicoptered me, They hit me, bull mooing ball right here. Man.

867
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,040
Speaker 1: I hit the ground, and you know, everybody thought I

868
00:51:05,120 --> 00:51:09,080
Speaker 1: was hurt and it came over. You go go and

869
00:51:09,080 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: say get up, let me get this touchdown. Thanks for

870
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,600
Speaker 1: dropping it on the one. You know. Anyway, we had

871
00:51:14,800 --> 00:51:19,439
Speaker 1: that mentality, man, no matter what people all, that's that's

872
00:51:19,480 --> 00:51:22,120
Speaker 1: the that's the greatest. It was the first. There's no

873
00:51:22,200 --> 00:51:25,160
Speaker 1: way you get top the first. We always wanted to

874
00:51:25,160 --> 00:51:28,720
Speaker 1: try to say well say what just as good, come live,

875
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:32,560
Speaker 1: stop it. There's no way you could talk. The first

876
00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: and the first for me was the best. Yeah, that's

877
00:51:37,160 --> 00:51:39,840
Speaker 1: it's it's I think mine. You get toping that, you

878
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: get this if you gonna get the m VP in

879
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 1: the raid one like you did, you Mike, you could

880
00:51:46,520 --> 00:51:49,120
Speaker 1: have gotten the MVP here though I should have got

881
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: it on super Bowl thirty. If I would have gotten

882
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:53,440
Speaker 1: get thirty, then that would have been my best. I was.

883
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,240
Speaker 1: It's clue. If they wouldn't have gotten over that pass

884
00:51:56,320 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: in up there, I would have gotten super Bowl thirty

885
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: m VP. You say that. But then also the second

886
00:52:02,320 --> 00:52:04,600
Speaker 1: one that you know we won in New England. We

887
00:52:04,600 --> 00:52:06,960
Speaker 1: we just so happened to have the biggest comeback in

888
00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,759
Speaker 1: the history of the game in that game. So like

889
00:52:09,800 --> 00:52:14,399
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, I don't know for you for

890
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:16,840
Speaker 1: but for you if you topping it with those things,

891
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:18,840
Speaker 1: see number one, the first one was going to be

892
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:22,959
Speaker 1: the best unless specifically I'm topping in other ones with something.

893
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:28,520
Speaker 1: So the second one, if I get MVP, oh, I

894
00:52:28,680 --> 00:52:32,799
Speaker 1: make it the greatest comeback in super Bowl history. That's

895
00:52:32,840 --> 00:52:36,040
Speaker 1: my That'll be the one. That first one for us,

896
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:39,200
Speaker 1: we we were well, score fifty two points. I think

897
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: this record was fifty nine. You know, we would have

898
00:52:41,800 --> 00:52:45,280
Speaker 1: died that if dog be dom bebe ball from Leon.

899
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:49,200
Speaker 1: You know what he was trying to do the Michael Irvin.

900
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,879
Speaker 1: He was trying to do the Michael Irvin. You talk,

901
00:52:52,000 --> 00:52:54,400
Speaker 1: you mentioned you taught him that, you mentioned Leon. We

902
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:57,480
Speaker 1: saw Leon do some hilarious things. I mean, that was amazing.

903
00:52:57,600 --> 00:53:00,440
Speaker 1: He does the Michael Irvin, he loses the what the

904
00:53:00,440 --> 00:53:04,480
Speaker 1: one yard line? I mean, I mean we see Leon

905
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: doing amazing stuff. What's some stuff that we didn't see

906
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,680
Speaker 1: Leon do? That's hilarious. Let me take some big cat

907
00:53:12,200 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 1: is and we call him Big Cat. He's the biggest

908
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 1: dude in the world and the most jentle dude in

909
00:53:17,600 --> 00:53:20,239
Speaker 1: the world. And and let me tell you what you do.

910
00:53:20,600 --> 00:53:22,719
Speaker 1: We used to have, you know, media day. You got

911
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:27,520
Speaker 1: no media day. Yeah, oh my god, Oh my god, man,

912
00:53:27,560 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: we're that breadthlest on media day. What is that breakfast?

913
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 1: Big cat sweating pools a sweat sweat You're right, man,

914
00:53:39,880 --> 00:53:43,120
Speaker 1: he's so afraid to go in front of these cameras.

915
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,799
Speaker 1: I mean he's just sweating. He's sweating. And give him

916
00:53:46,840 --> 00:53:50,400
Speaker 1: great a fan of him, and he's just he's so

917
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,920
Speaker 1: afraid to talk in front of the cameras that it

918
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:56,440
Speaker 1: just it makes him breakout and pours and sweat. Man.

919
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: But he's the greatest dude you ever want to know, man,

920
00:53:59,360 --> 00:54:02,879
Speaker 1: the greatest great dude in the world. He just doesn't

921
00:54:02,920 --> 00:54:05,319
Speaker 1: want to be in front of the camp that. That's

922
00:54:05,360 --> 00:54:08,920
Speaker 1: definitely not true for all my guy, Mike, That's definitely

923
00:54:08,920 --> 00:54:12,719
Speaker 1: not true because I remember, I remember, you know, I

924
00:54:12,760 --> 00:54:15,640
Speaker 1: was doing my first, fucking my first. I had to

925
00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: illustrate or talk about a play on the big old

926
00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:20,880
Speaker 1: screen and I was doing it, and Mike looks at me,

927
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:24,799
Speaker 1: his way, stop stop, stop it right now, Julian. You

928
00:54:24,880 --> 00:54:28,399
Speaker 1: need to look at the camera. Fuck me, fuck him,

929
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:31,080
Speaker 1: fuck the screen. You need to let the people see

930
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,600
Speaker 1: your face, because that's who's gonna pay you. And I

931
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:37,560
Speaker 1: was from that from there on, I was over here,

932
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:42,759
Speaker 1: over here, swim we got here. We're over here. Dude,

933
00:54:42,760 --> 00:54:44,839
Speaker 1: bring up a good point. Buck. Let me tell you something, man,

934
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,279
Speaker 1: because he'll tell you. This business is learn on the run.

935
00:54:48,680 --> 00:54:50,920
Speaker 1: You learn on the run up these little things. Man.

936
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:53,480
Speaker 1: You're like, wait a minute, I don't know nobody sees

937
00:54:53,640 --> 00:54:57,399
Speaker 1: anything to you. So I said, okay, I came in

938
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,440
Speaker 1: under that when I see the other dude come here,

939
00:54:59,440 --> 00:55:01,799
Speaker 1: I'm gonna try. You know, whatever I know, whatever I have,

940
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:05,520
Speaker 1: I want to give it to them. You know what

941
00:55:05,560 --> 00:55:07,759
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I want to help you get better. This

942
00:55:07,920 --> 00:55:10,080
Speaker 1: is I want to help you have what I call

943
00:55:10,400 --> 00:55:13,400
Speaker 1: a good soft land. He's a soft landings for us.

944
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: You played the game, and now you get to run

945
00:55:16,160 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 1: your old day talking about the game. You made millions,

946
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,080
Speaker 1: faking them out, which is your make a few million

947
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:26,040
Speaker 1: talking about it with your lips. Softlying, just softening. It

948
00:55:26,080 --> 00:55:28,880
Speaker 1: is what I called it, and that's what it. So.

949
00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:32,439
Speaker 1: I was telling Jus, when you're doing these ille straights, now,

950
00:55:32,520 --> 00:55:35,959
Speaker 1: I want you to talk to us, but talk to them.

951
00:55:36,280 --> 00:55:38,399
Speaker 1: I once had Deon Standy when I was doing Best

952
00:55:38,440 --> 00:55:41,399
Speaker 1: Damn Sports Show. I brought Deon standard Doll, my best

953
00:55:41,400 --> 00:55:44,239
Speaker 1: friend I love being to today, saying, my best friend weed.

954
00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, so I bring one. I said, I want

955
00:55:45,920 --> 00:55:47,880
Speaker 1: to bring on, bring on. I want to introduce you,

956
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:52,320
Speaker 1: and I had Chris Rode, John Sally Tomon sitting with me. Deon.

957
00:55:52,440 --> 00:55:53,880
Speaker 1: I said, this is my best friend right here. I

958
00:55:53,880 --> 00:55:56,000
Speaker 1: want to introduce you to my newt flad on the

959
00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:59,040
Speaker 1: set here and then then like you're getting ready, I said,

960
00:55:59,040 --> 00:56:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm shake their hands. I'm talking about camera one, camera two,

961
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,920
Speaker 1: with camera three he was getting ready to shake the guns.

962
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:10,880
Speaker 1: I'm right. These cameras are my pits free. You go

963
00:56:11,000 --> 00:56:14,320
Speaker 1: to these cameras. You go to these cameras as we

964
00:56:14,560 --> 00:56:17,120
Speaker 1: as you can't because the people are out there are

965
00:56:17,160 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 1: who are you really communicating with it? I got I

966
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 1: gotta ask you real quick about Buffalo because this is

967
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:27,480
Speaker 1: their third straight year in the Super Bowl. These fans

968
00:56:27,520 --> 00:56:30,919
Speaker 1: are hardcore. They talk about football. I mean like, look,

969
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:33,520
Speaker 1: I've been to Buffalo many times, as I'm sure both

970
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:36,960
Speaker 1: of you guys. They talk about the Buffalo Wing. They

971
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:38,959
Speaker 1: invented it. I feel like if they won a Super

972
00:56:39,000 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 1: Bowl they'd shut up about the wing for a second.

973
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,480
Speaker 1: Do you feel bad for this fan base taking one

974
00:56:44,480 --> 00:56:46,520
Speaker 1: from them? I know you want to win. You took two.

975
00:56:46,640 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 1: That's too straight? Yeah, too straight? Right, b you know,

976
00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:55,520
Speaker 1: and I wish they would have won the first one

977
00:56:55,560 --> 00:56:58,560
Speaker 1: they had when they had the Giant The Giants, No

978
00:56:58,880 --> 00:57:02,120
Speaker 1: are the risks you know, Washington Commanders now because they

979
00:57:02,239 --> 00:57:05,480
Speaker 1: lost all four of those NFC East teams, you know,

980
00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:08,480
Speaker 1: all for Super Bowl. The NFC East team, we were

981
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,759
Speaker 1: about it. We're the last two. Uh, the lost. But

982
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,920
Speaker 1: remember that one in Tampa, Scott no Wood against the

983
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:18,880
Speaker 1: field goals? Right? Why right? That was it? That was that.

984
00:57:19,960 --> 00:57:24,919
Speaker 1: I thought that, y'all the last two definitely ain't gonna

985
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:27,479
Speaker 1: be y'all. I'm sorry. I wish I could have helped.

986
00:57:27,680 --> 00:57:29,960
Speaker 1: I wish you could get that, but I can't help you.

987
00:57:30,080 --> 00:57:33,080
Speaker 1: Right now, that was it. I thought that would what

988
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:36,240
Speaker 1: was the best one, the best chance they had. All right,

989
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:41,160
Speaker 1: so they come out first quarter, they stop you, tasker

990
00:57:41,240 --> 00:57:45,800
Speaker 1: comes out of nowhere, blocks a punt like you got

991
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:48,480
Speaker 1: they start scoring. Does that? Does that kind of put

992
00:57:48,480 --> 00:57:50,560
Speaker 1: on our Yeah, we're gonna blow these guys up. Yeah,

993
00:57:50,640 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: we're we beat the Niners with the super Bowl champions.

994
00:57:53,560 --> 00:57:56,280
Speaker 1: But after they go and they blocked this punt, is

995
00:57:56,560 --> 00:57:58,320
Speaker 1: that when like, hey, all right, we gotta get a

996
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,320
Speaker 1: little panick in here. What are we doing? No, let

997
00:58:01,320 --> 00:58:03,800
Speaker 1: me tell you what happened? Me excuse me with all

998
00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:06,800
Speaker 1: of that, because you know, remember the run up, you know,

999
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: the run up to the super Bowl, asking you all

1000
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:12,680
Speaker 1: these questions and now it's always about experience. I don't

1001
00:58:13,680 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 1: super Bowl. The Buffalos been here twice it's that, but

1002
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,680
Speaker 1: it is the third Bodship first final six, a twenty

1003
00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:26,240
Speaker 1: yard in which I am damn good a running twenty

1004
00:58:26,320 --> 00:58:29,960
Speaker 1: yards in a seventeen out. You can't stop this A

1005
00:58:30,080 --> 00:58:32,200
Speaker 1: twenty yard end of a twenty yard in. I don't

1006
00:58:32,280 --> 00:58:35,280
Speaker 1: keep on running a super Bowl on my front yard

1007
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 1: Anywhere's the same thing. It ain't gonna change that. I

1008
00:58:38,240 --> 00:58:41,480
Speaker 1: don't need that experience, I said, say I get in

1009
00:58:41,560 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 1: that game. Oh right, god, we all get in that game.

1010
00:58:44,840 --> 00:58:47,920
Speaker 1: And when you walk out, you know, people were everywhere.

1011
00:58:48,600 --> 00:58:52,120
Speaker 1: My knees emmit, our knees buckled, and we looked at us,

1012
00:58:52,120 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: Oh my god, man, this is different. And we started hyperventilating.

1013
00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:00,080
Speaker 1: So early on in that game. We were exhausted, and

1014
00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,280
Speaker 1: we were like, we had to catch our brats. We

1015
00:59:02,320 --> 00:59:08,280
Speaker 1: gotta calm down, calm down, calm down, and let's start

1016
00:59:08,280 --> 00:59:11,440
Speaker 1: playing football. And it's so funny because Jimmy said that

1017
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:13,880
Speaker 1: in the locker room. Jimmy said, listen, we're going this stield.

1018
00:59:14,400 --> 00:59:17,080
Speaker 1: We're going to start going to be rough early on,

1019
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,960
Speaker 1: but right rout in halftime, they're gonna start turning the

1020
00:59:20,000 --> 00:59:22,640
Speaker 1: ball over because they had they meet so many turnovers.

1021
00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,560
Speaker 1: And during that year, they will fake the team. But

1022
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,919
Speaker 1: he would loose with the ball. Thurm and Thomas smoke

1023
00:59:27,960 --> 00:59:30,120
Speaker 1: loops with the ball, and he said, we'll start getting

1024
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:33,400
Speaker 1: those turnovers and then we'll pull it on. And I

1025
00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:38,680
Speaker 1: mean it happened just like that. It would it would.

1026
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:41,640
Speaker 1: We had a tough start because we're hyperventilating and we

1027
00:59:41,840 --> 00:59:45,560
Speaker 1: underestimated walked in in that Super Bowl atmosphere and what

1028
00:59:45,600 --> 00:59:48,640
Speaker 1: that would be like. But then once we got it rolling,

1029
00:59:48,960 --> 00:59:51,600
Speaker 1: like Jimmy said, we poured it off. Yeah. Yeah, Mike.

1030
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:55,680
Speaker 1: We talked about the Big Three, you, Troy and em

1031
00:59:55,680 --> 00:59:58,400
Speaker 1: it all the time. You guys had a defense with

1032
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,280
Speaker 1: zero Pro bowlers that it felt like I was watching

1033
01:00:03,320 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 1: the fucking Oprah Show. You get a pick, you get

1034
01:00:06,440 --> 01:00:10,000
Speaker 1: a pick, you get a turnover, you get a turnover, turnover.

1035
01:00:10,080 --> 01:00:14,720
Speaker 1: You guys had nine nine turnovers in the fucking Super Bowl. Like,

1036
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:16,640
Speaker 1: we gotta put some shine on the defense. I know

1037
01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:20,480
Speaker 1: you guys are like the most dynamic, but you're right though,

1038
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,880
Speaker 1: You're right, man. And this's what arangs me because even

1039
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:26,840
Speaker 1: when ween coach talked about it and those things started happening,

1040
01:00:27,000 --> 01:00:30,400
Speaker 1: we're all oday You're like, wow, you know, to this day,

1041
01:00:30,640 --> 01:00:34,880
Speaker 1: I'm in we you know we we scored. Damn quick turnover,

1042
01:00:35,160 --> 01:00:38,360
Speaker 1: get the ball back, Damn I score again. I'm so happy.

1043
01:00:38,840 --> 01:00:41,680
Speaker 1: This is a lot of my records go down. Cooper

1044
01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 1: Cup broke my most one hundred yard games, the season record,

1045
01:00:46,440 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 1: you know, just the most ninety yard games in the

1046
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:52,640
Speaker 1: season in a row. Ruck. All these Ruthers are going down.

1047
01:00:53,080 --> 01:00:56,800
Speaker 1: One record I know would never go anywhere, that super

1048
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:01,920
Speaker 1: Bowl record. I scored two offensive touchdown in eighteen seconds

1049
01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,960
Speaker 1: because we scored. You got a fun I got the

1050
01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: nis poor right back her break that rest and you

1051
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 1: hit you. You talked about that bang eight or that

1052
01:01:11,240 --> 01:01:13,640
Speaker 1: skinny post where you got hit. And then you go

1053
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 1: out and you run the same thing. You turn his

1054
01:01:16,000 --> 01:01:19,200
Speaker 1: ass around and you score a touchdown, and then you

1055
01:01:19,240 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: have the like it's this is like the most patent

1056
01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: playmaker touchdown was his second touchdown where he does the

1057
01:01:26,360 --> 01:01:30,040
Speaker 1: jump up, keeps his feet next to the sideline, dives in,

1058
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:33,760
Speaker 1: gives a forearm, get off my dick. Like, that's that's

1059
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:37,640
Speaker 1: what I think. That's what I think. You know what

1060
01:01:37,760 --> 01:01:40,400
Speaker 1: happened on that place? You limitated something right because I

1061
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:44,120
Speaker 1: was you're out to choice, he's outside and sides. I

1062
01:01:44,160 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 1: can get the band, I get the scoring. The banca

1063
01:01:47,600 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: here moved inside. We come back out the pos back

1064
01:01:53,480 --> 01:01:57,120
Speaker 1: to the post. Seven pull seven, let's go. Sorry what

1065
01:01:57,680 --> 01:02:01,440
Speaker 1: I I broke out too early? Oh my god, it

1066
01:02:01,520 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: broke out too early, you know. So I felt toward

1067
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:06,560
Speaker 1: throw the ball. I see Troy throw the ball and

1068
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:09,600
Speaker 1: he's cutting on the ball all I saw him. Oh

1069
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:12,600
Speaker 1: now I'm early. I should have taken another two. Stuff

1070
01:02:12,640 --> 01:02:16,320
Speaker 1: being breathed out. So now I'm worried about to pick six.

1071
01:02:16,600 --> 01:02:18,520
Speaker 1: So you put yourself in between the ball and him.

1072
01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:21,680
Speaker 1: So I tried to kick his ass. That's why my

1073
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:24,200
Speaker 1: leg was up. I was trying to kick your right

1074
01:02:24,280 --> 01:02:27,200
Speaker 1: in his speed. Eat your ass for that ball, you know.

1075
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:30,120
Speaker 1: And when I was trying to kick him, I try

1076
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: to list him to fall. He spit me around and

1077
01:02:33,920 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: having the man on my leg on my feet to

1078
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 1: get give a touchdown. That's what I have Listen, man,

1079
01:02:39,680 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: I had messed that big time. That could have easily

1080
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,720
Speaker 1: sweat turned the game right there with a pig six.

1081
01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,600
Speaker 1: So rumor has it at halftime that you snuck out

1082
01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:54,440
Speaker 1: and watched Michael Jackson perform. Is that true? Absolutely? The

1083
01:02:56,880 --> 01:02:59,920
Speaker 1: Michael or jadge. I came from the ghettos of Fort Lodder.

1084
01:03:00,720 --> 01:03:05,400
Speaker 1: Get told sixth under fifteenth or seventeen kids. Never in

1085
01:03:05,640 --> 01:03:09,480
Speaker 1: my life have I had any opportunity to see such

1086
01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 1: a such a performer, such a gifted talent in person

1087
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 1: like Michael Jackson. So actually, and you know those extended

1088
01:03:18,360 --> 01:03:21,280
Speaker 1: half times, you know. So when we come into a time,

1089
01:03:21,320 --> 01:03:23,640
Speaker 1: we get together as a team, everybody goes over everything

1090
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:26,640
Speaker 1: the team. Then you break out, right, you break out.

1091
01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:28,640
Speaker 1: After you go over the information for the team, what

1092
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:30,400
Speaker 1: we always see, what was the look, and you break

1093
01:03:30,480 --> 01:03:33,479
Speaker 1: out to your individual groups. You break out your wires, group,

1094
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:37,720
Speaker 1: tight end, running backs, quarterbacks, you know, dv vib Everybody

1095
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,240
Speaker 1: break out in the group and start going over the

1096
01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,400
Speaker 1: things they need to do. So when we broke off

1097
01:03:41,480 --> 01:03:44,960
Speaker 1: in the troops, I told coach Jacks in the bathroom,

1098
01:03:45,400 --> 01:03:49,280
Speaker 1: you're about I hit the bathroom room. I went in there, man,

1099
01:03:49,560 --> 01:03:53,240
Speaker 1: I went right on around, went outside watching Michael Jackson.

1100
01:03:53,280 --> 01:03:55,320
Speaker 1: I so when he came out of it there for

1101
01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:58,280
Speaker 1: a moment, anybody do that. Everybody just went crazy. It

1102
01:03:58,440 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 1: was insane. It was think and did. When I went back,

1103
01:04:03,480 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 1: it took so long as I thought I had doing

1104
01:04:07,440 --> 01:04:09,240
Speaker 1: one but I really hadn't do it too, you know,

1105
01:04:12,040 --> 01:04:18,280
Speaker 1: but I really did a three. I really enjoyed it. Man. Also, also, Michael,

1106
01:04:18,280 --> 01:04:20,120
Speaker 1: why why are you humming the man in the mirror

1107
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:26,560
Speaker 1: or if you over the news? That's why when I

1108
01:04:26,640 --> 01:04:28,760
Speaker 1: got back you said, when I got back, that's what

1109
01:04:29,960 --> 01:04:32,240
Speaker 1: I was just saying that Cronst It was the same man,

1110
01:04:32,280 --> 01:04:34,920
Speaker 1: It was the most beautiful you juice. You never did

1111
01:04:35,000 --> 01:04:38,760
Speaker 1: that with all of all. You never snuck to see that.

1112
01:04:39,560 --> 01:04:42,480
Speaker 1: You think Bill Belichick? Would you think you think if

1113
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:47,400
Speaker 1: Bill Belichick heard I was out there watching fucking Katy Perry?

1114
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,240
Speaker 1: What do you what do you think Bill Belichick would

1115
01:04:49,240 --> 01:04:51,280
Speaker 1: do to me? We're down twenty eight points in one

1116
01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:54,560
Speaker 1: of them. We're fucking we just get scored on the

1117
01:04:54,600 --> 01:04:57,040
Speaker 1: second one. Who are your bands? Do you remember who?

1118
01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,640
Speaker 1: I don't even remember we had Katy Perry? Who do

1119
01:04:59,680 --> 01:05:01,919
Speaker 1: we have? Jack? Who do we have on Super Bowls?

1120
01:05:02,360 --> 01:05:07,360
Speaker 1: Remember what you said? I don't remember? Remember the Michael Jackson?

1121
01:05:07,800 --> 01:05:10,080
Speaker 1: We have Maroon five? You can't risk it all for

1122
01:05:10,120 --> 01:05:11,960
Speaker 1: Adam Levine. That would be a weird one. Ye'd be

1123
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:16,240
Speaker 1: a little little tough Jackson. Michael Jackson, I get I

1124
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:20,560
Speaker 1: get it. Wait the same thing happened though. See this

1125
01:05:20,880 --> 01:05:23,720
Speaker 1: this is the Jimmy Johnson theory or law that I've

1126
01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,000
Speaker 1: I've heard him say, just like Mike said, he cuts

1127
01:05:26,040 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: someone who's not Michael Irvin. Now this last Super Bowl

1128
01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: kick fierce. Remember McPherson the kicker, he went out and

1129
01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,920
Speaker 1: snuck out and watched the halftime show and then they lost.

1130
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:41,000
Speaker 1: See that's the difference. There's a playmaker, and if the

1131
01:05:41,080 --> 01:05:44,080
Speaker 1: kicker goes out like this story does, it doesn't matter.

1132
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,440
Speaker 1: He scored two touchdowns and they're blowing them out when

1133
01:05:47,480 --> 01:05:50,000
Speaker 1: you have kicker in close game going, what are your

1134
01:05:50,040 --> 01:05:54,440
Speaker 1: thoughts on that, Mike, Yeah, that's the well what you

1135
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:58,680
Speaker 1: do now? And it's when I remember, I remember Emmitt

1136
01:05:58,800 --> 01:06:01,960
Speaker 1: called me after YO read to the Star. Remember he

1137
01:06:02,080 --> 01:06:05,160
Speaker 1: feels her and so so so I said, dude, listen,

1138
01:06:05,720 --> 01:06:07,960
Speaker 1: you still had the second half to fix the problem.

1139
01:06:08,600 --> 01:06:10,720
Speaker 1: If you still have a singer, have to fix the problem.

1140
01:06:12,000 --> 01:06:14,520
Speaker 1: But it's a kicker, you know, if it was some

1141
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: some real player that really go affect the game. You

1142
01:06:18,080 --> 01:06:20,560
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So just don't fix the problem.

1143
01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,800
Speaker 1: You gotta call sneaking out. Go win the game, Go

1144
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:26,520
Speaker 1: fix the problem. Got a second half to do it,

1145
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: and you know what I'm saying. But the kicker, yeah,

1146
01:06:31,800 --> 01:06:34,800
Speaker 1: that's just different. He got no way to make up

1147
01:06:34,920 --> 01:06:36,960
Speaker 1: for it, you know what I'm saying, because he can't

1148
01:06:37,040 --> 01:06:38,800
Speaker 1: go win the game unless we put him in a

1149
01:06:38,800 --> 01:06:41,320
Speaker 1: provision with Was that tigue who lit up t O

1150
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:46,440
Speaker 1: at the Star? Yes, yes, yeah, yeah. They called me

1151
01:06:46,560 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 1: afterwards like like me, she don't get up, get out

1152
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 1: the phone, get out. I don't tell me, dude, you

1153
01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:56,920
Speaker 1: whoop that dude, but you whoop his team. But but

1154
01:06:57,040 --> 01:06:59,320
Speaker 1: y'all let them finish. Y'all off in the second half.

1155
01:06:59,560 --> 01:07:02,760
Speaker 1: Now was like a star and you guys, fool, don't

1156
01:07:02,800 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: call me with this man win the game and that's

1157
01:07:05,240 --> 01:07:09,800
Speaker 1: all you can do. See, that's that's no one remembers

1158
01:07:09,840 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: if you lose. No one will remember it if you lose.

1159
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,360
Speaker 1: If you win, Like just like I would always hate

1160
01:07:15,400 --> 01:07:18,200
Speaker 1: if I had like a big stat game and then

1161
01:07:18,280 --> 01:07:20,200
Speaker 1: you'd lose the game. You're like, fuck, I hope we

1162
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,400
Speaker 1: win this game at the end, because it doesn't mean

1163
01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:26,800
Speaker 1: ship if you lose, Right, you go two hundred yards

1164
01:07:26,840 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 1: and loo and everybody's talking about the game. You loose,

1165
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:34,480
Speaker 1: and you've send that too hard man, too and nobody. Yeah,

1166
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:38,280
Speaker 1: it's all about winning. That's just what this is. And

1167
01:07:38,600 --> 01:07:41,480
Speaker 1: I like it. I like it. You've been quoted to

1168
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,160
Speaker 1: saying that this was the best you've ever seen any

1169
01:07:44,360 --> 01:07:49,320
Speaker 1: quarterback throw the way Troy ak been throwing this super Bowl?

1170
01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:52,720
Speaker 1: Is that? Is that true? Can you come from twenty

1171
01:07:52,800 --> 01:07:57,240
Speaker 1: seven super Bowl twenty seven? I've never seen with them,

1172
01:07:57,760 --> 01:08:01,520
Speaker 1: says juice that wins. The practice we had, we had

1173
01:08:01,520 --> 01:08:04,640
Speaker 1: a perfect practice, a perfect practice where you see l

1174
01:08:04,720 --> 01:08:08,840
Speaker 1: A and I'll never forget it was a perfect practice.

1175
01:08:09,120 --> 01:08:12,760
Speaker 1: I don't remember a ball touching the ground. Everything was

1176
01:08:12,880 --> 01:08:16,360
Speaker 1: a perfect row with christ I know. I said, we

1177
01:08:16,800 --> 01:08:20,640
Speaker 1: don't care. We don't care, so we don't care. I

1178
01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:23,840
Speaker 1: swear I knew we're I said, we are going to

1179
01:08:24,040 --> 01:08:27,760
Speaker 1: chill these dude, and we did. We just looked like

1180
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:32,120
Speaker 1: that once we settled down. But that practice, and I thought,

1181
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 1: just because Chory that you see la you know what

1182
01:08:35,320 --> 01:08:39,240
Speaker 1: I said, It was the spot, that's the spot. Let

1183
01:08:39,320 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: me give you this incidentally, Uh, Troy, you know Troy

1184
01:08:43,439 --> 01:08:46,360
Speaker 1: won m v P at the Super Bowl in l A,

1185
01:08:46,600 --> 01:08:49,040
Speaker 1: in l A where he played college ball with in

1186
01:08:49,160 --> 01:08:53,280
Speaker 1: it one m VP at the super Bowl in Atlanta.

1187
01:08:53,320 --> 01:08:55,000
Speaker 1: I told him, and we went, when I'm going to

1188
01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: pensylcol we can get this to Atlanta. That's your super

1189
01:08:58,040 --> 01:09:00,479
Speaker 1: Bowl each other, that's your own super Bowl. He won

1190
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:06,200
Speaker 1: every p. That next super Bowl was in Miami ninety four.

1191
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,160
Speaker 1: I was in Miami that it was the Gigs. It

1192
01:09:09,200 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: should have been against the Chargers, who I ain't. Jerry

1193
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:15,240
Speaker 1: got m VP. That was my m v P. And

1194
01:09:15,360 --> 01:09:19,120
Speaker 1: then then the fourth year we go to Arizona. I

1195
01:09:19,360 --> 01:09:21,240
Speaker 1: still could have won, and I got a passion the

1196
01:09:21,360 --> 01:09:23,519
Speaker 1: fas called on the touchdown by Courtne that lake I'm

1197
01:09:23,560 --> 01:09:26,519
Speaker 1: on out of red saw that that snatch down because

1198
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:30,280
Speaker 1: I ran a special eight you know, post corner post

1199
01:09:30,840 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 1: on that special eight DNA and he sang inside and

1200
01:09:33,880 --> 01:09:37,839
Speaker 1: he knew it was coming and burnt touch that touchdown

1201
01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:41,320
Speaker 1: in the rough corner. I was. I argued him all

1202
01:09:41,400 --> 01:09:45,000
Speaker 1: the way and then when I got in side, how

1203
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:47,160
Speaker 1: did you see that? You know what? He said? He said,

1204
01:09:47,160 --> 01:09:49,720
Speaker 1: you did? Grab hell? Yeah? I grabbed me and said,

1205
01:09:49,720 --> 01:09:53,000
Speaker 1: how did you see it? Though? How did you? That

1206
01:09:53,240 --> 01:09:55,439
Speaker 1: was the whole thing. It was that pass of the

1207
01:09:55,520 --> 01:09:59,639
Speaker 1: fens and oh yeah, and I met miss Arizona earlier

1208
01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 1: that week. It kind of broke a rule. That's what

1209
01:10:02,439 --> 01:10:09,120
Speaker 1: it was that week and broke the rule and that's

1210
01:10:09,160 --> 01:10:12,439
Speaker 1: why you didn't get the MVP. Mike called after Thursday night,

1211
01:10:12,520 --> 01:10:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, making me strengthen up, and I want to

1212
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:19,000
Speaker 1: look deep into the week. You know what sounds like

1213
01:10:19,080 --> 01:10:28,400
Speaker 1: it was worth it. Well I would not at the time,

1214
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,680
Speaker 1: you see, if you were right, I look back. I

1215
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:37,360
Speaker 1: rather have my you know, I could have put it

1216
01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:40,400
Speaker 1: back here with all the stuff I wish I would. Yeah,

1217
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,439
Speaker 1: but you got that one up here, and that's more important.

1218
01:10:42,720 --> 01:10:46,400
Speaker 1: Right at what point you blew them out? You blew

1219
01:10:46,439 --> 01:10:49,360
Speaker 1: them out fifty two to seventeen in Buffalo. At what

1220
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:53,559
Speaker 1: point are you planning the post game festivities? Third quarter?

1221
01:10:53,680 --> 01:11:00,640
Speaker 1: Fourth quarter? Oh yeah, yeah, well we when you get

1222
01:11:00,680 --> 01:11:03,080
Speaker 1: to blow out going and and like you was talking thing,

1223
01:11:03,120 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 1: he just kept coming and we started seeing turnal was

1224
01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:10,040
Speaker 1: turn turtles. Yeah, we started that fourth quarter it was

1225
01:11:10,120 --> 01:11:12,479
Speaker 1: on and popping or talking about what we're about to do.

1226
01:11:12,520 --> 01:11:14,360
Speaker 1: And I did this. Now that was a bunch of

1227
01:11:14,479 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 1: uk but that was our first time and we were

1228
01:11:16,240 --> 01:11:21,519
Speaker 1: in La Dude. We won through out of hand. We're

1229
01:11:21,600 --> 01:11:25,080
Speaker 1: crashing parties, man, because we went can see Jimmy would

1230
01:11:25,080 --> 01:11:28,559
Speaker 1: take us in Jennison, we're going in Sunday. We're gonna

1231
01:11:28,560 --> 01:11:32,280
Speaker 1: go in Sunday that Sunday before, so we have Sunday night,

1232
01:11:33,040 --> 01:11:37,160
Speaker 1: Monday night, Sunday night and Monday night off. Do what

1233
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,320
Speaker 1: you want, do whatever one'm gonna do. The media day Tuesday,

1234
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,760
Speaker 1: start practice Wednesday. So we would always bring everybody and

1235
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:48,559
Speaker 1: he tell everybody, you know why no significant girlfriend until

1236
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 1: wind still a thirty. Don't you don't want anybody to

1237
01:11:51,640 --> 01:11:53,080
Speaker 1: come in if you want you guys to go out

1238
01:11:53,080 --> 01:11:55,800
Speaker 1: and do the many, Yeah, we would go out do

1239
01:11:55,840 --> 01:11:58,880
Speaker 1: the man. We crashed parties in l A. Crack. They

1240
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,960
Speaker 1: were doing look a Look, Face Record Carty something. Man.

1241
01:12:04,040 --> 01:12:06,479
Speaker 1: We were so bunctioned up in that party when the

1242
01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: Mike Paul and said, you guys please keep it down

1243
01:12:08,479 --> 01:12:11,040
Speaker 1: in the fact we are the party. We're here for

1244
01:12:11,160 --> 01:12:13,519
Speaker 1: the super Bowl, we were so stupid. Dog it was.

1245
01:12:13,720 --> 01:12:16,519
Speaker 1: It was the most fawn super Bowl any celebrity, any

1246
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:19,200
Speaker 1: celebrities in l A. I mean that's like the celebrity capital.

1247
01:12:19,360 --> 01:12:22,760
Speaker 1: Anyone you remember partying with you guys, either before or

1248
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: after the Super Bowl. You guys remember also what also happened? Yeah,

1249
01:12:27,960 --> 01:12:31,120
Speaker 1: well a lot of remember was it magic Johnson, remember

1250
01:12:31,200 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: his his bodyguards. Guy got into it with uh one

1251
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:38,680
Speaker 1: the linebacker. What's what's the name? Linebacker? Guy's name? Uh

1252
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:42,400
Speaker 1: Bennett the other good great linebacker got into it with

1253
01:12:42,520 --> 01:12:45,439
Speaker 1: one and and pretty good. No, no, no, no, no,

1254
01:12:45,560 --> 01:12:48,000
Speaker 1: won a Buffalo line one of Buffalo Bills linebacker. I

1255
01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:56,160
Speaker 1: got his name, Darryl Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah you guys, yeah,

1256
01:12:56,320 --> 01:12:59,800
Speaker 1: so so yeah, we so many mini star and dude,

1257
01:13:00,640 --> 01:13:02,519
Speaker 1: I don't know. I better not tell those stories about

1258
01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:04,880
Speaker 1: how talent we had to roll. I'm on the airport.

1259
01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to tell that story about how they

1260
01:13:06,520 --> 01:13:08,559
Speaker 1: had the roll. I'm on here plane the next day

1261
01:13:08,720 --> 01:13:10,560
Speaker 1: because he was you know, they were so drunk and

1262
01:13:10,640 --> 01:13:12,720
Speaker 1: we were going to the Pro Bowl, so we all

1263
01:13:12,800 --> 01:13:14,839
Speaker 1: had to get on the plane to go to Hawaii

1264
01:13:15,040 --> 01:13:18,479
Speaker 1: together and we were waiting. They were rolling them all

1265
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:26,160
Speaker 1: on a wheelchair. I'm doing Buffalo. Well they could drink.

1266
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:31,400
Speaker 1: I didn't give it to a bigger dream. Oh man, man,

1267
01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:38,880
Speaker 1: Now you want any in college? Yes? Yeah, yeah, with Jimmy, Yeah,

1268
01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:41,360
Speaker 1: with Jimmy. And then you won a Super Bowl with

1269
01:13:41,520 --> 01:13:46,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy went to it? Yeah, Well was he different from

1270
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:48,439
Speaker 1: pro when he was in the pros And when he

1271
01:13:48,520 --> 01:13:50,599
Speaker 1: was in college or was he kind of the same

1272
01:13:50,800 --> 01:13:54,439
Speaker 1: with you because you knew him well. Jimmy was always

1273
01:13:54,560 --> 01:13:59,640
Speaker 1: the same and seriously use different different motivation tactics, motivational

1274
01:13:59,760 --> 01:14:03,400
Speaker 1: time in college. When we had bad practices, you know,

1275
01:14:03,760 --> 01:14:06,479
Speaker 1: dem would bring everybody up. Man, I was like, you

1276
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:08,879
Speaker 1: gotta imagine that, cause remember you're here the thirty thirty

1277
01:14:08,880 --> 01:14:12,200
Speaker 1: for thirty story about Miami. You hear about how coach

1278
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:16,000
Speaker 1: Howard Stellarburger went and all in the cities, the ghettos

1279
01:14:16,120 --> 01:14:18,639
Speaker 1: and got all of us to bring us to Miami,

1280
01:14:19,360 --> 01:14:22,120
Speaker 1: you know. And then and when I got there, Howard

1281
01:14:22,160 --> 01:14:25,280
Speaker 1: Snellerberger recruited me. But then Howard left and went to

1282
01:14:25,320 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: the USF bel and Jimmy came in. So so I

1283
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,080
Speaker 1: would come in to get old and all they got everybody,

1284
01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,240
Speaker 1: and then Jimmy came in. It was a smart man.

1285
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:37,080
Speaker 1: Jimmy knew. Jimmy knew how big it was for those guys,

1286
01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:39,519
Speaker 1: for all the me, the guy they mean, the Brett Parramis,

1287
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:42,559
Speaker 1: the brags love light Smith, all the guys come out

1288
01:14:42,600 --> 01:14:45,360
Speaker 1: of the Datto and we got four year of scholarship

1289
01:14:45,479 --> 01:14:48,719
Speaker 1: and we were in college. So when we have press practice,

1290
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:52,200
Speaker 1: jim will bring about. I know y'all think y'all got

1291
01:14:52,240 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: a four year scholarship. Y'all better read the five prick

1292
01:14:55,680 --> 01:15:00,599
Speaker 1: those scholarship a one year renewal, and y'all bus you better.

1293
01:15:00,640 --> 01:15:04,920
Speaker 1: Probably I'm sending everybody at home you own for us

1294
01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,160
Speaker 1: or the ghettos. Ain't nobody going on? What are you

1295
01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:11,000
Speaker 1: talking about? Man, I'm talking about you would see some

1296
01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:14,720
Speaker 1: of the greatest plays made on the football field with

1297
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:17,880
Speaker 1: the talent we had and that fear it are hid.

1298
01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:20,519
Speaker 1: I mean it was snatching passes. Now you come to

1299
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:24,240
Speaker 1: the league, Jimmy, when you're the different Jimmy would say,

1300
01:15:24,360 --> 01:15:27,960
Speaker 1: I heard you. I will cut you and make you

1301
01:15:28,479 --> 01:15:33,280
Speaker 1: never play again and sleep, you know, basically saying the

1302
01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:37,000
Speaker 1: same thing and scared you. He used that real fear

1303
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:39,960
Speaker 1: and he was serious. He was serious. He used that

1304
01:15:40,120 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: real fear to bring the best of body you. And

1305
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,600
Speaker 1: I like, I like the coach that keeps you on

1306
01:15:45,680 --> 01:15:49,160
Speaker 1: the head. That's what Belichick does. He keeps your art end.

1307
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:51,639
Speaker 1: So you make sure you come in here and give

1308
01:15:51,720 --> 01:15:58,160
Speaker 1: us what y'ach? What about what about Jerry Jones? What's

1309
01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:02,920
Speaker 1: something we don't know about Jerry? With something like how

1310
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 1: like how Jerry's getting a bad rap right now. How

1311
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:08,240
Speaker 1: do we clear the how do we clear the error

1312
01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:11,439
Speaker 1: from I love Jerry Man, Jerry. Jerry is a great

1313
01:16:11,520 --> 01:16:15,000
Speaker 1: Dale man, he really is, and a loyal, loyal dooel

1314
01:16:15,520 --> 01:16:18,360
Speaker 1: and and and and Jerry worked his way up. You know,

1315
01:16:18,560 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 1: certainly Dad gave him an opportunity. But but look at

1316
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:24,760
Speaker 1: what he's done with the opportunity. You guys always said that,

1317
01:16:24,840 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: imagine man a distance travel. Don't tell me about where

1318
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: you are, tell me about where you started. Let me

1319
01:16:29,479 --> 01:16:31,639
Speaker 1: see where you are, and I shall make you measure

1320
01:16:31,680 --> 01:16:35,519
Speaker 1: you a quarterly. Jarry certainly has some opportunities. But what

1321
01:16:35,680 --> 01:16:38,240
Speaker 1: he's done with him and what he's built. When he

1322
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: first first bought Dallas Cowboys, I mean, Jerry will come in.

1323
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,599
Speaker 1: He talked about the Dallas Cowboys and he talked about

1324
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:49,000
Speaker 1: like it was the biggest and the greatest thing God

1325
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:52,719
Speaker 1: is given this earth. And that's really what he's gone

1326
01:16:52,800 --> 01:16:55,479
Speaker 1: out and sold, that the NFL is the biggest and

1327
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:59,800
Speaker 1: the greatest thing God has given me. That's how they feel.

1328
01:16:59,840 --> 01:17:01,760
Speaker 1: Your dollars for whatever, I don't have much money to

1329
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:04,920
Speaker 1: get for these TV deals and all of that, you

1330
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:08,320
Speaker 1: understand the money they are making you see what I mean.

1331
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:11,320
Speaker 1: And Jerry is a big part of that. Man. He's

1332
01:17:11,360 --> 01:17:14,599
Speaker 1: a great businessman and he and he worked his way

1333
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 1: up and he always looked he's always looking for somebody

1334
01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,160
Speaker 1: and self guide and help and for me what I

1335
01:17:21,240 --> 01:17:24,439
Speaker 1: love him for every every one of my negotiations and everything.

1336
01:17:24,680 --> 01:17:27,960
Speaker 1: When I first came out on Miami, I send Jerry said,

1337
01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:29,960
Speaker 1: I want you sitting in on everything. I want your

1338
01:17:30,040 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 1: learning about all of this so you don't becoming a

1339
01:17:32,800 --> 01:17:35,760
Speaker 1: story like all of these other guys in the end

1340
01:17:36,200 --> 01:17:39,000
Speaker 1: that don't have anything. He says, I want to make

1341
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,800
Speaker 1: sure that I'm not just probable. The people that work

1342
01:17:41,880 --> 01:17:44,559
Speaker 1: for you or represent you with you are in those meetings,

1343
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:47,599
Speaker 1: and I appreciate them. That. You can say a lot

1344
01:17:47,640 --> 01:17:51,000
Speaker 1: of things about Jerry Jones, but the one thing you

1345
01:17:51,200 --> 01:17:55,320
Speaker 1: know is that my guy loves his cowboys. He like

1346
01:17:55,439 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: really believes what you just said, like they are the

1347
01:17:58,080 --> 01:18:00,880
Speaker 1: biggest And then that's you know that that's that's a

1348
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:04,240
Speaker 1: cool thing if you're that passionate about what you're doing

1349
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 1: and what you love, like he loves the cowboys. You know,

1350
01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: sometimes it's a little too much. It's a little too

1351
01:18:10,439 --> 01:18:13,439
Speaker 1: much when he's over here dipping this. You brought him

1352
01:18:13,439 --> 01:18:19,080
Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty six billionaire. Yeah, that's a

1353
01:18:19,160 --> 01:18:21,160
Speaker 1: hell of a runway, you know what I'm saying. What

1354
01:18:21,200 --> 01:18:25,240
Speaker 1: I'm talking about major travel. You know, that's the hell

1355
01:18:25,320 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: of a runway right there. Man, I mean he literally

1356
01:18:29,280 --> 01:18:34,720
Speaker 1: he brought America's team back to America's team. And sure

1357
01:18:34,760 --> 01:18:37,000
Speaker 1: we could say, you know who is America's team? Truly?

1358
01:18:37,160 --> 01:18:40,040
Speaker 1: Is it the Cowboys? Is the Patriots? Is the Giants?

1359
01:18:40,120 --> 01:18:45,360
Speaker 1: Will never know? But the listen, you're good though, You're good.

1360
01:18:45,479 --> 01:18:47,960
Speaker 1: I'm cool, man, I'm cool. I'm cool. What you're throwing

1361
01:18:47,960 --> 01:18:52,920
Speaker 1: the Patriots in, I'm cool. I'm gonna let them. But

1362
01:18:53,080 --> 01:18:58,599
Speaker 1: you kidnap drop them. Damn giants and Michael who beat

1363
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: the Patriots? There are America's team. I lost twice to

1364
01:19:02,640 --> 01:19:07,000
Speaker 1: the Giants. You gotta they gotta be in the conversation.

1365
01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:13,679
Speaker 1: Exact the only reason, the only reason, it's a viable

1366
01:19:14,000 --> 01:19:19,240
Speaker 1: option for the Patriots that basically defended off the red

1367
01:19:19,320 --> 01:19:25,080
Speaker 1: coats of Britain, that made the militias that America was

1368
01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:30,360
Speaker 1: made in Massachusetts, like red, white, and blue, like Giants

1369
01:19:30,439 --> 01:19:34,479
Speaker 1: colors as well. By the way, I don't know, right, right, right.

1370
01:19:34,520 --> 01:19:36,679
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, I never thought I knew red,

1371
01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:38,840
Speaker 1: white and blue, yet I never thought about the tires

1372
01:19:39,040 --> 01:19:41,320
Speaker 1: really wearing their colors. I thought about its big blue,

1373
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 1: but not red, white and blue. It's certainly not Americas.

1374
01:19:45,000 --> 01:19:47,439
Speaker 1: But but I have all the time saying, you know

1375
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,240
Speaker 1: that that we'll put it in those discussion. We'll come

1376
01:19:50,280 --> 01:19:53,640
Speaker 1: back those two championship. ELI wouldn't get to be a

1377
01:19:53,720 --> 01:19:57,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer just those two games, right there is

1378
01:19:57,240 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: what's going to make ELI a Hall of Famer. I

1379
01:20:01,600 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: I do too, agreed. I mean, finally some common ground here.

1380
01:20:05,479 --> 01:20:08,920
Speaker 1: But uh, I mean, I do think in the nineties,

1381
01:20:08,960 --> 01:20:11,160
Speaker 1: there was no question you guys ran the nineties. You

1382
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:14,560
Speaker 1: guys were so dominant. I mean, you're the reason so

1383
01:20:14,720 --> 01:20:17,840
Speaker 1: many people I grew up with are Cowboy fans because

1384
01:20:17,920 --> 01:20:19,760
Speaker 1: you guys kept winning. It was like cool to be

1385
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,880
Speaker 1: a Cowboys fan. I mean, they had they travel well,

1386
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,600
Speaker 1: we were talking about it. I remember they came and

1387
01:20:24,640 --> 01:20:27,040
Speaker 1: played us in Foxboro and they they had a lot

1388
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:29,320
Speaker 1: of fans there. They had a lot of fans. And

1389
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,800
Speaker 1: you know, to wrap this thing up, you know, do

1390
01:20:32,880 --> 01:20:35,920
Speaker 1: you think you guys probably could have maybe got two

1391
01:20:36,080 --> 01:20:38,320
Speaker 1: or three more Super Bowls? If you didn't change those

1392
01:20:38,520 --> 01:20:42,360
Speaker 1: awful fucking jerseys in nineteen ninety five. You know what man?

1393
01:20:43,200 --> 01:20:45,160
Speaker 1: I mean? Yeah, I look good to play good, and

1394
01:20:45,240 --> 01:20:49,560
Speaker 1: you didn't look good with those that did not, that

1395
01:20:49,680 --> 01:20:52,120
Speaker 1: didn't slow down on the run. I won't they stopped

1396
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:54,760
Speaker 1: the run, but but it just slowed down the run

1397
01:20:54,840 --> 01:20:58,960
Speaker 1: and I lost my coat. We now now drew only

1398
01:20:59,080 --> 01:21:01,640
Speaker 1: because y'all have done what you have done. After all.

1399
01:21:02,560 --> 01:21:04,760
Speaker 1: I look at it sometimes, well, I think before then

1400
01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:07,160
Speaker 1: I was. We look at it like I go to dinner,

1401
01:21:07,640 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: Troy and I have sitting around get something heat. Not

1402
01:21:10,000 --> 01:21:12,120
Speaker 1: a time that we sit together that we don't say, man,

1403
01:21:12,160 --> 01:21:14,240
Speaker 1: we should have wanted five, We should have wanted four,

1404
01:21:14,240 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: we should want to five. You know what I mean?

1405
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,639
Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, we're always talking about what we should

1406
01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:23,320
Speaker 1: have done. I tell God, listen, I feel so sorry

1407
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:25,920
Speaker 1: for every dude to walk off this field without wonder.

1408
01:21:26,840 --> 01:21:29,559
Speaker 1: I been with regret and I have to eat ye

1409
01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,519
Speaker 1: and I'm always talking about I'm going to five. Actually,

1410
01:21:33,560 --> 01:21:36,360
Speaker 1: don't have imagine what they must be going through if

1411
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,920
Speaker 1: they got zero. You see what it's say it It

1412
01:21:39,080 --> 01:21:42,240
Speaker 1: must be hell for them if they got zero. If

1413
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:45,800
Speaker 1: I'm going through what I'm going through and I have three. Yeah,

1414
01:21:45,840 --> 01:21:48,320
Speaker 1: I get it. You always think about, you know, the

1415
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:50,560
Speaker 1: shitty things you didn't do. Nothing great things like in

1416
01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:54,360
Speaker 1: the game you have a crazy amount of plays, great catches,

1417
01:21:54,680 --> 01:21:57,400
Speaker 1: but you think about that one that what damn ball

1418
01:21:57,640 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: and call it down the way one ball that got away?

1419
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:11,120
Speaker 1: Sleep the actually grabbing that bacle come out one cause

1420
01:22:11,160 --> 01:22:14,400
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sleep my misery on that one Dale

1421
01:22:14,600 --> 01:22:17,800
Speaker 1: pant when I had two hundred and fifteen dollars, and

1422
01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:22,559
Speaker 1: I'll think about that one flip two sixty five job

1423
01:22:23,320 --> 01:22:28,160
Speaker 1: the resiz. I get it, And you know, I want

1424
01:22:28,200 --> 01:22:31,400
Speaker 1: to thank you for coming on our podcast talking about

1425
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:35,120
Speaker 1: Super Bowl twenty seven. I have one my last question

1426
01:22:35,520 --> 01:22:39,000
Speaker 1: to let you go off. What's the did you hire

1427
01:22:39,040 --> 01:22:44,000
Speaker 1: a choreographer for the Jumbo tron? Uh? For this season's plans?

1428
01:22:44,080 --> 01:22:48,640
Speaker 1: Like we got something new? You gotta dance? Is that

1429
01:22:48,720 --> 01:22:51,240
Speaker 1: why you're working out? Because you wear a really small

1430
01:22:51,360 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: T shirt when you were on the Jumbo Tron. So

1431
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,519
Speaker 1: you're working out with the workout gloves getting ready for

1432
01:22:55,680 --> 01:22:58,360
Speaker 1: the Jumbo Tron. You know what that looks like? Though

1433
01:22:58,560 --> 01:23:01,200
Speaker 1: I usually do know well, I usually shoot him at

1434
01:23:01,240 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: all this so I got a little time, and we

1435
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,240
Speaker 1: have to go through the off season. And what I

1436
01:23:06,320 --> 01:23:09,639
Speaker 1: do is kick out the words and if you use

1437
01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:12,840
Speaker 1: the things that coach McCarthy you've been talking and saying

1438
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:18,080
Speaker 1: to his team all day and how on man, right right, right,

1439
01:23:18,200 --> 01:23:21,559
Speaker 1: right right, no interceptions. I try to talk to turn

1440
01:23:22,360 --> 01:23:26,200
Speaker 1: and then I put it together and a masterpiece on

1441
01:23:26,320 --> 01:23:28,840
Speaker 1: that big straight and it's fit. Screen is so big,

1442
01:23:29,120 --> 01:23:31,400
Speaker 1: and then in my arms the big I even look

1443
01:23:31,439 --> 01:23:34,120
Speaker 1: bigger on the pitch street. And I make sure when

1444
01:23:34,160 --> 01:23:35,960
Speaker 1: you're a Dallas cowboyd thing, you gotta wake up in

1445
01:23:36,000 --> 01:23:38,759
Speaker 1: the morning, you're gonna watch me on TV somewhere again.

1446
01:23:38,840 --> 01:23:40,760
Speaker 1: Befohen you go to the game, you're gonna watch me

1447
01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:43,920
Speaker 1: on that jumble truck. I am definitely impressing my man,

1448
01:23:44,439 --> 01:23:48,280
Speaker 1: impressing myself right upon your brain. Damn, you can't see

1449
01:23:48,320 --> 01:23:53,000
Speaker 1: the cowboy without seeing me. And that's the truth. You

1450
01:23:53,200 --> 01:23:58,320
Speaker 1: can't see the cowboys without seeing the playmaker. Back in

1451
01:23:58,439 --> 01:24:02,240
Speaker 1: the day, modern day on TV, or when you're at

1452
01:24:02,600 --> 01:24:05,680
Speaker 1: jerry Land and you're eating down a hot dog and

1453
01:24:05,800 --> 01:24:08,519
Speaker 1: you look up at that big old screen and you

1454
01:24:08,680 --> 01:24:11,839
Speaker 1: see a guy who's in shape wearing a size medium

1455
01:24:11,920 --> 01:24:16,759
Speaker 1: T shirt saying, great punchlines. You know you are watching

1456
01:24:17,600 --> 01:24:20,920
Speaker 1: Michael Irving, a legend on the field and great on

1457
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 1: TV too. Man, thank you so imitated that we were

1458
01:24:27,120 --> 01:24:29,840
Speaker 1: in negotiating. I'm in the negotiation row and he and

1459
01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,559
Speaker 1: I was going in and I said, he said, Michael,

1460
01:24:32,600 --> 01:24:34,639
Speaker 1: you know what if I wanted to make a decision

1461
01:24:35,040 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: and move things if you if we can't work out

1462
01:24:37,720 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 1: the if I can move you to Cincinnati here before

1463
01:24:40,280 --> 01:24:43,040
Speaker 1: a car, I can go to car. I can go

1464
01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:44,920
Speaker 1: do that. I said, I bet I could turn I

1465
01:24:44,960 --> 01:24:49,080
Speaker 1: could try Cincinnati into a gym. Jip discuss where sist

1466
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,080
Speaker 1: and egg and he thought about it for a while

1467
01:24:52,000 --> 01:24:54,920
Speaker 1: and he said, Michael, you know what. Listen, he said,

1468
01:24:54,920 --> 01:24:57,439
Speaker 1: when I see you, you know what I see. I see.

1469
01:24:58,040 --> 01:25:01,719
Speaker 1: I think about magic. Johnson in the lum says this Lakers.

1470
01:25:01,840 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 1: What is magic without the Lakers? And what are the

1471
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:07,800
Speaker 1: Lakes without? He said, when I see you, That's how

1472
01:25:07,920 --> 01:25:11,759
Speaker 1: I see you. He says Mike Oron and the Dallas Cowboys.

1473
01:25:11,800 --> 01:25:14,160
Speaker 1: He says, strong, what I'm singing to you, if a

1474
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: bomb get down e Winch right now. Today, that's when

1475
01:25:17,479 --> 01:25:20,120
Speaker 1: we practiced that. That's why it wouldn't work. He said Blue,

1476
01:25:20,320 --> 01:25:24,920
Speaker 1: everything and everything is done. When it's smoke clear, you

1477
01:25:25,080 --> 01:25:27,280
Speaker 1: and me, we're gonna still be here, baby, So we

1478
01:25:27,400 --> 01:25:31,360
Speaker 1: might as well work out these numbers right now because

1479
01:25:31,360 --> 01:25:32,599
Speaker 1: they ain't pay. And it's kind of when they had

1480
01:25:32,680 --> 01:25:37,280
Speaker 1: me done, I said, ead work Okay. I was like,

1481
01:25:37,640 --> 01:25:40,800
Speaker 1: well where were you with that number of kids? And

1482
01:25:40,960 --> 01:25:43,280
Speaker 1: we worked it out. But he's a funny dude. I

1483
01:25:43,439 --> 01:25:47,040
Speaker 1: just appreciate. But I held on to that that you know,

1484
01:25:47,200 --> 01:25:49,599
Speaker 1: me and the cowboys, we belonged together. That's the way

1485
01:25:49,640 --> 01:25:52,000
Speaker 1: that Jude, I believe you and the Patriots belonging together.

1486
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:54,280
Speaker 1: You're a hard worker that worked your way up and

1487
01:25:54,479 --> 01:25:57,920
Speaker 1: talking about American scheme, it worked the eyes drafted all

1488
01:25:58,040 --> 01:26:01,479
Speaker 1: of that stuff. Man, that's called cause neativity. That's why

1489
01:26:01,600 --> 01:26:04,720
Speaker 1: you're on TV. That's why you can still inspire people. Man,

1490
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:07,360
Speaker 1: keep doing the things you guys are doing. Appreciate your

1491
01:26:07,360 --> 01:26:11,400
Speaker 1: having me on. I appreciate you. You're the best. I'll

1492
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:14,599
Speaker 1: see you soon. Where are you all right? Brow? I'm

1493
01:26:14,600 --> 01:26:16,760
Speaker 1: at home now. I'm in Dallas. I'm in one of

1494
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:19,240
Speaker 1: my home in Dallas, you know. But I'll be hearing

1495
01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,160
Speaker 1: the Florida and then heting out in New York to la.

1496
01:26:21,400 --> 01:26:24,479
Speaker 1: Did I hear one of your homes in Dallas? One

1497
01:26:24,520 --> 01:26:29,000
Speaker 1: of your home? Yep? Dat. I got many homes here

1498
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:31,880
Speaker 1: and they all the Florida. But I used to call

1499
01:26:32,080 --> 01:26:34,439
Speaker 1: as I buy them, I call them summer home. But

1500
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:37,720
Speaker 1: some of my brothers and sisters always move in and

1501
01:26:37,840 --> 01:26:40,840
Speaker 1: don't ever leave. I'm telling you, I got They've been

1502
01:26:40,840 --> 01:26:44,120
Speaker 1: living in my houses for thirty five years since I

1503
01:26:44,200 --> 01:26:46,519
Speaker 1: got in the league in nineteen eighty and they never

1504
01:26:46,680 --> 01:26:50,800
Speaker 1: paid rent and they never leave. I just it's it's

1505
01:26:50,920 --> 01:26:53,400
Speaker 1: just what it is. That's why I keep buying new house,

1506
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:56,599
Speaker 1: but they keep moving in, so I'm gonna give the one.

1507
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,400
Speaker 1: It's a good problem to have, though, it's a great

1508
01:26:59,479 --> 01:27:06,880
Speaker 1: problem to have. You got sixteen brothers, there's something that's

1509
01:27:06,960 --> 01:27:09,320
Speaker 1: an issue. That's why. That's why I always know how

1510
01:27:09,360 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: to work with teams because I've been working with the

1511
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,200
Speaker 1: team all my life, so so it all works out.

1512
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,120
Speaker 1: The ultimate team player, the ultimate playmaker. I love you, bro,

1513
01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:22,400
Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. Appreciated God, good luck man, Appreciate

1514
01:27:22,479 --> 01:27:24,839
Speaker 1: you guy got him all. That was a good interview.

1515
01:27:25,160 --> 01:27:30,280
Speaker 1: He was awesome, great energy always Yeah, anytime we had

1516
01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:35,160
Speaker 1: him on the show. He's just a fun energetic dude.

1517
01:27:35,400 --> 01:27:37,320
Speaker 1: He's one of your favorites. He said, loo, I love

1518
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:40,280
Speaker 1: you your favorite, right, one of them? Yeah, one of them.

1519
01:27:40,360 --> 01:27:44,000
Speaker 1: I mean you have different relationships between each guys, you know. Yeah,

1520
01:27:44,439 --> 01:27:48,599
Speaker 1: but uh, he's just fun. He's great. He's a legend.

1521
01:27:48,640 --> 01:27:51,720
Speaker 1: It's awesome to talk to him. What's the legacy for

1522
01:27:51,800 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 1: this game? It's actually a big game. There's a big

1523
01:27:54,479 --> 01:27:57,360
Speaker 1: legacy because this was the start. Absolutely, I mean, what's

1524
01:27:57,400 --> 01:28:00,479
Speaker 1: the legacy to any the first championship? For any honesty,

1525
01:28:00,560 --> 01:28:06,479
Speaker 1: you gotta say it's it's pretty huge. Yeah, this kick

1526
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:09,559
Speaker 1: started the decade, and they said they knew they were

1527
01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:12,120
Speaker 1: gonna win going in and that type of confidence. It's

1528
01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:15,200
Speaker 1: like that shows you how they were built kind of. Yeah,

1529
01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:17,960
Speaker 1: but I think the NFC was they were pretty much

1530
01:28:18,080 --> 01:28:22,720
Speaker 1: dominating the AFC, Like I don't I don't think they

1531
01:28:22,800 --> 01:28:25,679
Speaker 1: won a Super Bowl at this point since like nineteen

1532
01:28:25,760 --> 01:28:28,360
Speaker 1: eighty four with the Raiders, I believe is that is

1533
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:34,439
Speaker 1: that right? I think that's right. But yeah, it's just crazy.

1534
01:28:35,000 --> 01:28:38,479
Speaker 1: And they were like the youngest football team, so like

1535
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 1: you automatically know if you're young, and people were under contract,

1536
01:28:42,320 --> 01:28:44,840
Speaker 1: especially at this time where there really wasn't a salary cap.

1537
01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:48,160
Speaker 1: So they were just paying guys and you got you

1538
01:28:48,320 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 1: got the win, and you got your set up. You're

1539
01:28:51,000 --> 01:28:53,080
Speaker 1: set up for some years. Which they went on and

1540
01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:55,280
Speaker 1: did they back to back it. They went to the

1541
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: next year beat the Buffalo Bills again. That's terrible for

1542
01:28:58,360 --> 01:29:03,839
Speaker 1: the Bills. Yeah, that's heartbreaking. Yeah, man, I'm sorry, Buffalo

1543
01:29:04,120 --> 01:29:08,720
Speaker 1: You're good people. That's a it's a tough tough that's

1544
01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:10,559
Speaker 1: a tough one to swallow. It is a tough one.

1545
01:29:11,160 --> 01:29:14,880
Speaker 1: I really do like their team right now. I in all, honestly,

1546
01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:17,639
Speaker 1: I was rooting for the Bills to beat the Chiefs

1547
01:29:17,680 --> 01:29:20,439
Speaker 1: and go last year because I wanted to see I

1548
01:29:20,520 --> 01:29:22,519
Speaker 1: want to see the Buffalo Bills win a Super Bowl.

1549
01:29:22,680 --> 01:29:25,439
Speaker 1: Me too, as like a sports fan, as someone who

1550
01:29:25,520 --> 01:29:28,800
Speaker 1: appreciates how hard they go. I like Josh Allen and

1551
01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:32,400
Speaker 1: Diggs is awesome. They're they're They're a cool team. They

1552
01:29:32,479 --> 01:29:35,320
Speaker 1: are and and honestly, I think it's their fan group.

1553
01:29:35,680 --> 01:29:38,840
Speaker 1: It's their their fan base, Bills Mafia. And they played

1554
01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:42,000
Speaker 1: in my division. Yeah, I played them a lot, and

1555
01:29:42,160 --> 01:29:44,439
Speaker 1: usually you hate people in your division. I could say

1556
01:29:44,479 --> 01:29:47,240
Speaker 1: I hate the New York Jets, but I don't hate

1557
01:29:47,240 --> 01:29:50,840
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. It's hard. It's hard, you know, Like

1558
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: I always respected them. They're always good football teams, and uh,

1559
01:29:56,800 --> 01:29:59,479
Speaker 1: you know, I've had some great times in Buffalo. I

1560
01:29:59,479 --> 01:30:01,080
Speaker 1: remember you told me one I want to I want

1561
01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,040
Speaker 1: to hear it. Yeah, like so I think it was

1562
01:30:04,080 --> 01:30:06,439
Speaker 1: two thousand and nine, or it could have been twenty ten.

1563
01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,679
Speaker 1: It was early in my careers, late in the season.

1564
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,599
Speaker 1: We clinched the AFC East with a win in Buffalo.

1565
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:16,559
Speaker 1: Is that really? It was a real cold, freezing game,

1566
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:23,320
Speaker 1: windy game, and we got snowed into Buffalo and there

1567
01:30:23,400 --> 01:30:26,160
Speaker 1: was a huge hockey tournament tournament going on, so there

1568
01:30:26,240 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 1: was no hotels in Buffalo. What what level of hockey

1569
01:30:29,520 --> 01:30:31,240
Speaker 1: is it? I think it was like juniors. It's like

1570
01:30:31,320 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 1: the juniors World Cup. Hilarious, are like, hey, there's no

1571
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:36,760
Speaker 1: there's nowhere for the New England Patriots to say, there's

1572
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:39,160
Speaker 1: a youth hockey team here, guys. So I think it

1573
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,800
Speaker 1: was a tournament like and they got booked out like

1574
01:30:42,800 --> 01:30:45,200
Speaker 1: months in advance. But how does who drop the ball?

1575
01:30:45,920 --> 01:30:47,600
Speaker 1: It's good you got snowed in. We got snowed in.

1576
01:30:47,720 --> 01:30:50,840
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it's just logistics, yea. And so we go

1577
01:30:51,000 --> 01:30:56,080
Speaker 1: in and uh, we bust to Rochester, New York. Yeah.

1578
01:30:56,600 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: I like Rochester. I've been there. It is my only

1579
01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:01,679
Speaker 1: time I've ever been there. Yeah, and like the whole

1580
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:07,680
Speaker 1: team's on Cloud nine. We just clinched playoffs, and so

1581
01:31:07,800 --> 01:31:10,280
Speaker 1: we all decided to go to this place like Dinosaur

1582
01:31:10,360 --> 01:31:13,839
Speaker 1: Barbecue or something. Oh it's famous. Yeah, that's famous barbecue upstate.

1583
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,600
Speaker 1: I know. I know everyone's like the Midwest and the

1584
01:31:16,680 --> 01:31:19,200
Speaker 1: South run. I know you're in Kansas Barbecue, You're in

1585
01:31:19,280 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Saint Louis, you're in Texas, Oklahoma or wherever. I know

1586
01:31:23,240 --> 01:31:25,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna say, we run barbecue dinosaurs pretty good though.

1587
01:31:27,120 --> 01:31:30,280
Speaker 1: It was very delicious. Yeah, But we get there and

1588
01:31:30,800 --> 01:31:33,320
Speaker 1: Brady shows up and everyone's in there. We're all chugging

1589
01:31:33,400 --> 01:31:37,320
Speaker 1: beers and Brady and barbecue. A I think he was

1590
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:38,760
Speaker 1: just there to be around the guys. I don't remember

1591
01:31:38,840 --> 01:31:41,400
Speaker 1: him eating a barbecue, but I do remember challenging him

1592
01:31:41,479 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: to a beer chugging contest. You challenge Brady, He's got

1593
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:48,120
Speaker 1: I mean, we've seen it on late night TV. He's

1594
01:31:48,160 --> 01:31:49,880
Speaker 1: a good chugger. And you're a young guy in the

1595
01:31:49,920 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 1: team of this. I'm like twenty two twenty three, Like, hey, Brady,

1596
01:31:54,120 --> 01:31:57,080
Speaker 1: I want you. He looks at me. He says, you

1597
01:31:57,160 --> 01:32:01,840
Speaker 1: want me. I said, yeah, I want you. Says line

1598
01:32:01,880 --> 01:32:08,360
Speaker 1: them up. We line them up. We chug. Yeah. It

1599
01:32:08,439 --> 01:32:11,240
Speaker 1: was a very fast chugged by both and I guess

1600
01:32:11,320 --> 01:32:15,720
Speaker 1: I lost because of DQQ. Yeah, what does that mean?

1601
01:32:16,080 --> 01:32:17,760
Speaker 1: He said some of the beer was on my chest,

1602
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:19,560
Speaker 1: which I could have sworn I saw some of the

1603
01:32:19,600 --> 01:32:22,479
Speaker 1: beer on his chest. But it was close. It was

1604
01:32:22,680 --> 01:32:25,320
Speaker 1: it was a snapshot finish. He ended up taking the win.

1605
01:32:25,560 --> 01:32:26,960
Speaker 1: This sounds like he took a win on like a

1606
01:32:27,160 --> 01:32:29,640
Speaker 1: pass interference flag in the end. It's what it kind

1607
01:32:29,680 --> 01:32:31,439
Speaker 1: of felt like. That's what it kind of felt like.

1608
01:32:31,880 --> 01:32:35,240
Speaker 1: So if you're listening to this, Brady, I want you back.

1609
01:32:36,240 --> 01:32:38,160
Speaker 1: I want to run it back. Can we run it back?

1610
01:32:38,240 --> 01:32:39,679
Speaker 1: I want to run it back. I want to rematch.

1611
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,160
Speaker 1: I want it on it too. Can we do like

1612
01:32:41,200 --> 01:32:44,599
Speaker 1: a big I want I want it on this. We'll see.

1613
01:32:44,720 --> 01:32:47,160
Speaker 1: I'd be honored to even take third place against you guys.

1614
01:32:48,240 --> 01:32:50,840
Speaker 1: We'll do like a coconut drink or something. If it

1615
01:32:50,960 --> 01:32:52,840
Speaker 1: makes if it makes them, you know, come out here

1616
01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,720
Speaker 1: and do it. But coca. That's the only way I'll

1617
01:32:55,760 --> 01:32:59,559
Speaker 1: get him back in the coconut water, coconut Seltzer coconuts. Oh,

1618
01:32:59,680 --> 01:33:03,160
Speaker 1: that's a tough chug. Seltzer. Seltzer's tough to chug. If

1619
01:33:03,200 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 1: you could chug, you can chug bub Let's dance. I

1620
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:09,240
Speaker 1: didn't put my dancing shoes on, not too so you.

1621
01:33:09,560 --> 01:33:11,720
Speaker 1: So did you get any Brady's respect out of this?

1622
01:33:11,840 --> 01:33:14,439
Speaker 1: You think? No? He was like, fuck you, I just

1623
01:33:14,479 --> 01:33:17,280
Speaker 1: beat you in a chugging contest by an eyelash. Yeah,

1624
01:33:17,439 --> 01:33:19,720
Speaker 1: and literally I think I may have won, but he

1625
01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 1: still won and got all the credit because he's Tom

1626
01:33:21,720 --> 01:33:23,559
Speaker 1: Brady and all, and no one was gonna go against

1627
01:33:23,600 --> 01:33:26,679
Speaker 1: him on the team. I was like some slaptaic rookie.

1628
01:33:28,280 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: But did you feel like this was like a good

1629
01:33:30,439 --> 01:33:33,760
Speaker 1: team bonding. It was one of the funnest times you're

1630
01:33:33,760 --> 01:33:36,439
Speaker 1: getting drunk with Tom Brady in Rochester. It's like with

1631
01:33:36,720 --> 01:33:38,960
Speaker 1: the whole team was there? Though the whole team was there?

1632
01:33:40,000 --> 01:33:44,280
Speaker 1: Who else do you remember being fun as hell? Logan Mankins. Yeah,

1633
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:48,000
Speaker 1: he was just a big ass cattle rancher, just big

1634
01:33:48,080 --> 01:33:53,000
Speaker 1: old bury fucking man in his car heart jacket that

1635
01:33:53,080 --> 01:33:58,479
Speaker 1: he wore every single day like he he was just

1636
01:33:58,560 --> 01:34:01,680
Speaker 1: so cool to be around. Carhart's quality. It is and

1637
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,040
Speaker 1: it's he was wearing it before it became like this

1638
01:34:04,200 --> 01:34:06,519
Speaker 1: cool trendy brand. Now that like his resould, you know

1639
01:34:06,560 --> 01:34:09,439
Speaker 1: what I mean, he's in It's very quality. He wore

1640
01:34:09,560 --> 01:34:13,800
Speaker 1: Carhart hat, Carhart jacket, some Wrangler jeans, and a red

1641
01:34:13,920 --> 01:34:16,800
Speaker 1: T shirt every single day. Heart's a great name for

1642
01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:20,800
Speaker 1: a NASCAR driver. Doesn't that sound even more like not not?

1643
01:34:21,560 --> 01:34:24,920
Speaker 1: You know, Earn Hart car Heart. That's a fucking car name.

1644
01:34:25,640 --> 01:34:28,479
Speaker 1: That's a dude who could fucking whip it around. That's

1645
01:34:28,520 --> 01:34:30,920
Speaker 1: a guy that can definitely do some donuts with a

1646
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:35,240
Speaker 1: stogy in his mouth. Hell yeah, I ein't someone down? Yeah, dude?

1647
01:34:36,320 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 1: Who else? Who else was there? Uh? Matt Light Uh?

1648
01:34:41,280 --> 01:34:46,240
Speaker 1: Rob Ninkovich? Yeah, of course everyone, everyone was there. Anyone

1649
01:34:46,320 --> 01:34:49,439
Speaker 1: get ripped? We all got ripped. Yeah, we all got

1650
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:51,640
Speaker 1: a little to Brady was drunk. I don't know if

1651
01:34:51,680 --> 01:34:54,639
Speaker 1: he did, but you know, I think he he'll sneak away,

1652
01:34:54,680 --> 01:34:57,360
Speaker 1: He'll come and hang out. The Irish exits the Irish.

1653
01:34:57,920 --> 01:35:03,680
Speaker 1: Yeah he is Irish Brady. So it's right on, right

1654
01:35:03,760 --> 01:35:07,479
Speaker 1: on Q. But I will say the Irish exits underrated.

1655
01:35:07,880 --> 01:35:09,519
Speaker 1: It's the best. It's great. What do you have to

1656
01:35:09,560 --> 01:35:11,760
Speaker 1: shake hands with four hundred people on the way out

1657
01:35:11,880 --> 01:35:14,360
Speaker 1: at a bar. I love the Irish exit. No, no

1658
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:16,439
Speaker 1: one's gonna hold it if it's a good time, no

1659
01:35:16,520 --> 01:35:19,200
Speaker 1: one's holding you to that. Goodbye half of them. Markt

1660
01:35:19,320 --> 01:35:23,479
Speaker 1: really remember that you left exactly. You're good exactly. Yeah.

1661
01:35:23,600 --> 01:35:27,479
Speaker 1: But that all happened in Rochester and Buffalo, and so

1662
01:35:27,560 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 1: Buffalo has a special spot in my heart. That's where

1663
01:35:29,960 --> 01:35:32,960
Speaker 1: I got beat by Tom Brady in a beer chugging

1664
01:35:33,000 --> 01:35:37,599
Speaker 1: contest allegedly, and where I saw a dildo get thrown

1665
01:35:37,640 --> 01:35:41,160
Speaker 1: on the field multiple times. Either way, you got fucked.

1666
01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:45,760
Speaker 1: Either way, you got fucked. Yeah. Uh So where does

1667
01:35:45,800 --> 01:35:48,200
Speaker 1: this Dallas team rank as far as dynasties go to you?

1668
01:35:48,360 --> 01:35:50,120
Speaker 1: I mean as someone who is part of a dynasty,

1669
01:35:50,479 --> 01:35:52,200
Speaker 1: I mean they get I mean they're up there. They

1670
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:55,200
Speaker 1: went back to back and they won three. They won

1671
01:35:55,280 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 1: three with a lot of the same dudes, with a

1672
01:35:58,400 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: lot of the same guys. I you know, it's tough

1673
01:36:02,800 --> 01:36:07,880
Speaker 1: with these these older dynasties because of the the free

1674
01:36:07,920 --> 01:36:11,400
Speaker 1: agency and the salary cap, you know what I mean.

1675
01:36:11,520 --> 01:36:14,000
Speaker 1: So like that's why? So is that why someone like

1676
01:36:14,120 --> 01:36:16,559
Speaker 1: like a dynasty like the Steelers, you look at differently

1677
01:36:16,600 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: as well, yeah, they barely had free agency back then. Yeah,

1678
01:36:19,240 --> 01:36:21,360
Speaker 1: you know, so like the players couldn't really they really

1679
01:36:21,400 --> 01:36:23,720
Speaker 1: didn't have control of going anywhere or even if you

1680
01:36:23,800 --> 01:36:25,479
Speaker 1: know what I mean, which is a good thing and

1681
01:36:25,600 --> 01:36:28,880
Speaker 1: a bad thing. Course there was no like salary caps,

1682
01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,200
Speaker 1: so guys are getting paid didn't matter, you know what

1683
01:36:31,240 --> 01:36:33,400
Speaker 1: I mean. It's a more player friendly league right now,

1684
01:36:33,560 --> 01:36:36,080
Speaker 1: way more player friendly. But that makes it harder to

1685
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:38,519
Speaker 1: win because you know, once you win a Super Bowl,

1686
01:36:38,560 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: everyone wants to get paid, of course, and that's what

1687
01:36:40,760 --> 01:36:42,760
Speaker 1: everyone as they should if you're winning, you should get

1688
01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:46,080
Speaker 1: paid without a doubt. But you know, to think go

1689
01:36:46,200 --> 01:36:48,479
Speaker 1: back to the Dynasty question. I mean they have to

1690
01:36:48,560 --> 01:36:52,680
Speaker 1: be up there because they were lights out. Yeah, and

1691
01:36:53,040 --> 01:36:55,320
Speaker 1: anytime you go back to back the pat the Pats

1692
01:36:55,360 --> 01:36:58,120
Speaker 1: did it with uh, you know, Bruce Gierra and early

1693
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,519
Speaker 1: Pats and with you guys, we didn't do bad. You

1694
01:37:00,640 --> 01:37:03,439
Speaker 1: go back to but you never yet brutal that separates it, right,

1695
01:37:03,640 --> 01:37:06,080
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Right, Bruski's right, we went

1696
01:37:06,360 --> 01:37:08,560
Speaker 1: you know one, but we've had one. We had this

1697
01:37:08,680 --> 01:37:11,400
Speaker 1: talk with Bruski, what is hard of the first half

1698
01:37:11,479 --> 01:37:15,439
Speaker 1: of the Dynasty of the second half, because you know, target.

1699
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:17,040
Speaker 1: You you got the target on your back in the

1700
01:37:17,080 --> 01:37:21,200
Speaker 1: second half. Yeah, they're all hard, they're all hard. They're

1701
01:37:21,200 --> 01:37:25,960
Speaker 1: all hard. But is losing four straight Super Bowls probably

1702
01:37:26,000 --> 01:37:28,560
Speaker 1: the most brutal streak? Well, you said it would be

1703
01:37:28,720 --> 01:37:32,120
Speaker 1: more brutal to not to just be irrelevant and not

1704
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:34,800
Speaker 1: make the playoffs. I I don't for me getting that

1705
01:37:35,000 --> 01:37:37,360
Speaker 1: close that many times in a row and losing like

1706
01:37:37,479 --> 01:37:41,479
Speaker 1: that much heartbreak to go through winning the you know,

1707
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,240
Speaker 1: the NF the AFC every time and continually lose when

1708
01:37:46,280 --> 01:37:49,120
Speaker 1: you're won by a field goal, I mean, god, it's

1709
01:37:49,479 --> 01:37:52,120
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, I think it's pretty heartbreaking. Yeah,

1710
01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:55,960
Speaker 1: even if I knew I was going to lose the game,

1711
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,800
Speaker 1: I still wouldn't think I was going to lose the game.

1712
01:37:58,000 --> 01:38:00,840
Speaker 1: So that's why if you got a horse and in

1713
01:38:00,960 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 1: the race, yeah there's always a shot, even if you

1714
01:38:03,800 --> 01:38:06,720
Speaker 1: know the horse is a little lame, that's true, you know,

1715
01:38:07,000 --> 01:38:11,599
Speaker 1: but they just kept missing. It's brutal. My heart goes

1716
01:38:11,640 --> 01:38:14,600
Speaker 1: out to the Buffalo fans because they do have a

1717
01:38:14,680 --> 01:38:17,599
Speaker 1: really cool team right now. They do hopefully that they

1718
01:38:17,680 --> 01:38:19,960
Speaker 1: can finish something, you know that. I mean, it's not

1719
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:23,000
Speaker 1: that easy. Like people, Oh my god, they the game

1720
01:38:23,080 --> 01:38:26,559
Speaker 1: they lost to the Chiefs was literally Mahomes and Allen

1721
01:38:27,040 --> 01:38:29,439
Speaker 1: put on. I mean, that's a game I want to

1722
01:38:29,479 --> 01:38:31,479
Speaker 1: do on this show. Got it because that's one of

1723
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:33,600
Speaker 1: the best football games I've ever seen. I remember I

1724
01:38:33,720 --> 01:38:36,639
Speaker 1: was at the Comedy Seller. I'm on stage. I'm like, fuck,

1725
01:38:36,640 --> 01:38:38,479
Speaker 1: I don't want to go on. I run off, I

1726
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,439
Speaker 1: get to catch the end of the fourth quarter like

1727
01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:46,560
Speaker 1: this is insane, overtime insane. Yeah, it was. You know,

1728
01:38:46,760 --> 01:38:50,360
Speaker 1: it is exactly what the NFL wanted. Yeah, and too

1729
01:38:50,680 --> 01:38:53,400
Speaker 1: you know that. You know they want franchise qbs in there,

1730
01:38:53,400 --> 01:38:55,639
Speaker 1: and they both those teams have them. They have them,

1731
01:38:56,400 --> 01:38:58,600
Speaker 1: you know, so hopefully they can they can you know,

1732
01:38:58,760 --> 01:39:02,000
Speaker 1: snowball this and to going out and getting a win.

1733
01:39:02,160 --> 01:39:04,479
Speaker 1: You know, I want to see it for Buffalo. Yeah,

1734
01:39:05,640 --> 01:39:07,640
Speaker 1: they got the New Era store in Buffalo. They'll tell

1735
01:39:07,640 --> 01:39:11,160
Speaker 1: you that. Well, that's like the original. I think the

1736
01:39:11,320 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: original New Era hat store. I believe. Yeah. How about

1737
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:17,639
Speaker 1: this though? What about these crazy games in the Rose

1738
01:39:17,680 --> 01:39:21,880
Speaker 1: Bowl nineteen ninety nine Women's World Cup Final. Brandy Chestain,

1739
01:39:21,960 --> 01:39:28,000
Speaker 1: she's she's on where's she at? That's at Pasadena? Wow,

1740
01:39:28,120 --> 01:39:30,400
Speaker 1: that's at Pasadena right there? You got two thousand and

1741
01:39:30,439 --> 01:39:34,800
Speaker 1: six Texas USC National Championship at the Rose Bowl. Wow,

1742
01:39:35,400 --> 01:39:37,800
Speaker 1: the Olympics. I believe that's why they made it. Is

1743
01:39:37,840 --> 01:39:39,600
Speaker 1: that why they made it? And they made it for

1744
01:39:39,680 --> 01:39:44,000
Speaker 1: the Olympics or some kind of game. But the Olympics

1745
01:39:44,040 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 1: were held there in nineteen thirty two, nineteen eighty four.

1746
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:51,880
Speaker 1: Holy shmoy and shout out to the Rose Bowl. Flea market.

1747
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 1: Always always love a good flea market. Flea markets are underreaded.

1748
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:59,240
Speaker 1: You always find something good. I love flea markets, garage sales,

1749
01:39:59,439 --> 01:40:02,720
Speaker 1: farmers more. Love those things. They're fun. It's a fun

1750
01:40:02,760 --> 01:40:05,439
Speaker 1: way to kill time. Yeah. And it's fun. Why. It's

1751
01:40:05,479 --> 01:40:08,200
Speaker 1: a fun way of like finding like a treasure. Yeah,

1752
01:40:08,720 --> 01:40:11,240
Speaker 1: you know, it's like a treasure hunt. My parents used

1753
01:40:11,240 --> 01:40:12,400
Speaker 1: to go to like we used to go to like

1754
01:40:12,479 --> 01:40:15,880
Speaker 1: garage sales. Yeah. I love them. They're classics. We used

1755
01:40:15,920 --> 01:40:18,599
Speaker 1: to throw garage sales. Yeah. And so then my mom

1756
01:40:18,640 --> 01:40:20,800
Speaker 1: would front me like ten bucks. I'd go buy like

1757
01:40:21,000 --> 01:40:23,240
Speaker 1: a bunch of cokes, and I would sell cokes at

1758
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: the garage sale. It's how I bought my my sony

1759
01:40:26,040 --> 01:40:28,519
Speaker 1: my Sega Genesis in ninety four. What was your game

1760
01:40:28,560 --> 01:40:33,240
Speaker 1: on Sega? Speaking of Aladdin, I loved the Aladdin game. Really,

1761
01:40:33,320 --> 01:40:36,360
Speaker 1: I loved Aladdin. I mean, obviously the Sonic Sonic was

1762
01:40:36,400 --> 01:40:39,160
Speaker 1: the class that was like their Mario or Mario. I've

1763
01:40:39,200 --> 01:40:43,799
Speaker 1: been told I say, Mario. I think it's because you're Mario. Mario, Mario,

1764
01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:48,799
Speaker 1: it's Mario bro Mario. I always say, Okay, Yeah, Sonic

1765
01:40:48,920 --> 01:40:53,280
Speaker 1: was classic Sonic. Uh. They had the Maddens. We played

1766
01:40:53,280 --> 01:40:57,160
Speaker 1: Maddens Matten ninety five. I remember playing on there ninety four.

1767
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:01,840
Speaker 1: You were Niners in that game. Yeah, Ricky Waters, I

1768
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:05,599
Speaker 1: believe dude, like the like the spin where the guy's

1769
01:41:05,640 --> 01:41:12,880
Speaker 1: spinning left. But uh, Jack, did we forget anything? We

1770
01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:16,719
Speaker 1: got a couple of things to check back in on. First, Julian,

1771
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:20,639
Speaker 1: your halftime performers. We mentioned that with Mike in games

1772
01:41:20,680 --> 01:41:26,719
Speaker 1: you were active in, Katy Perry, Maroon five, Lady Gaga, Madonna, Madonna?

1773
01:41:26,760 --> 01:41:29,240
Speaker 1: Are you a big fan of any of them? Madonna

1774
01:41:30,960 --> 01:41:35,920
Speaker 1: Madonna's alleged allege. And then you got to give a

1775
01:41:35,920 --> 01:41:39,240
Speaker 1: shout out to our man John bon Jovi, Hampton Water, Rose,

1776
01:41:39,760 --> 01:41:44,240
Speaker 1: Hampton Water Rose, Damn John bon Jovie. Look the Rose Bowl,

1777
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:48,439
Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl, Yeah, there there it is, there it is.

1778
01:41:48,600 --> 01:41:51,960
Speaker 1: And then we did a little digging on Jules's story

1779
01:41:52,000 --> 01:41:55,160
Speaker 1: of drinking with Tom out in Buffalo. If the numbers

1780
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:57,840
Speaker 1: add up like they look like they do, it was

1781
01:41:57,920 --> 01:42:02,280
Speaker 1: December twenty six, twenty ten, December twenties. Yeah, it was

1782
01:42:02,320 --> 01:42:04,479
Speaker 1: my second year going on in Buffalo. Was also the

1783
01:42:04,520 --> 01:42:08,439
Speaker 1: twenty ten to twenty eleven World Juniors, which Russia took

1784
01:42:08,520 --> 01:42:11,720
Speaker 1: them the gold medal and the Patriots won thirty four

1785
01:42:11,720 --> 01:42:15,120
Speaker 1: to three. Yeah, it's a big win, big dub, big

1786
01:42:15,240 --> 01:42:18,880
Speaker 1: dub hat and T shirt game. You know what that is?

1787
01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: What is that? Oh? They give they give those out

1788
01:42:21,400 --> 01:42:24,160
Speaker 1: whenever you have Yeah, whenever you win a championship, you

1789
01:42:24,240 --> 01:42:26,479
Speaker 1: get a hat and a T shirt. So like after

1790
01:42:27,000 --> 01:42:29,800
Speaker 1: you know you win the division, they're always gonna come

1791
01:42:29,800 --> 01:42:31,479
Speaker 1: into the locker room. There's a hat and T shirt.

1792
01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,720
Speaker 1: Pretty cool. You go to Division round, you get the

1793
01:42:33,760 --> 01:42:36,840
Speaker 1: hat and T shirt. You go to the AFC Championship,

1794
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,760
Speaker 1: you get the hat and T shirt. But there's only

1795
01:42:39,800 --> 01:42:41,840
Speaker 1: one hatt and T shirt you really want. It's only

1796
01:42:41,880 --> 01:42:44,639
Speaker 1: one with your with your franchise and your mindset. Only

1797
01:42:44,720 --> 01:42:48,599
Speaker 1: only one, Yeah, the last one. Anything else and then

1798
01:42:48,640 --> 01:42:51,559
Speaker 1: we'll bring a full circle here. Shout out to our

1799
01:42:51,600 --> 01:42:54,800
Speaker 1: guy Ken Norton. Cowboys from eighty eight to ninety three.

1800
01:42:55,360 --> 01:42:58,559
Speaker 1: San Francisco from ninety four to two thousand. Wow. Current

1801
01:42:58,640 --> 01:43:02,439
Speaker 1: linebackers coach at UCLA for our guy, Chip Kelly play

1802
01:43:02,479 --> 01:43:05,080
Speaker 1: their home games with the Rose Bowl. How many Super

1803
01:43:05,120 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 1: Bowl is this? Ken Nordon have? He went back to

1804
01:43:07,360 --> 01:43:09,599
Speaker 1: back one with the Dallas Cowboys in ninety three, then

1805
01:43:09,640 --> 01:43:12,519
Speaker 1: he won it with the Niners in ninety four, So yeah,

1806
01:43:12,520 --> 01:43:15,920
Speaker 1: I think he has two. He's got three. Yeah, it

1807
01:43:16,000 --> 01:43:18,040
Speaker 1: was two with the Cowboys and one with the Niners. Right,

1808
01:43:19,240 --> 01:43:21,240
Speaker 1: you go three straight? Was it two with the Cowboys

1809
01:43:21,240 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 1: in a row and then one with the Niners. Yeah,

1810
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,479
Speaker 1: that's exactly what it was. He went three straight nineteen

1811
01:43:26,600 --> 01:43:29,679
Speaker 1: ninety three and then the Niners one that was ninety

1812
01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:33,920
Speaker 1: four ninety four where they beat the Chargers blew them out.

1813
01:43:35,720 --> 01:43:38,600
Speaker 1: Is this the America's Super Bowl? How about them Cowboys?

1814
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:42,400
Speaker 1: Dynasty starter? Sorry, Buffalo, I mean I kind of leaned

1815
01:43:42,640 --> 01:43:45,479
Speaker 1: how about them Cowboys? How about them Cowboys? For sure,

1816
01:43:45,920 --> 01:43:49,160
Speaker 1: that's an iconic thing that everyone says. Everyone says, how

1817
01:43:49,200 --> 01:43:51,400
Speaker 1: about them Cowboys. By the way, we did not hit

1818
01:43:51,600 --> 01:43:55,240
Speaker 1: on that bet, did we with Irvin? We counted six,

1819
01:43:55,400 --> 01:43:59,760
Speaker 1: So the under just hit for Damn, that was all

1820
01:43:59,760 --> 01:44:03,200
Speaker 1: you to. I blew it. I tried to get it.

1821
01:44:04,280 --> 01:44:06,080
Speaker 1: I tried to get a couple doubles. I was going,

1822
01:44:06,320 --> 01:44:08,760
Speaker 1: you know, America's team is always America's team. And I

1823
01:44:08,840 --> 01:44:11,240
Speaker 1: only did it a couple two times. I bet, what

1824
01:44:11,360 --> 01:44:14,600
Speaker 1: do you lean for? Name? How about them Cowboys? Has

1825
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:18,599
Speaker 1: to be has to be steaks. Let's let's score it. Steaks.

1826
01:44:19,439 --> 01:44:23,800
Speaker 1: Stakes are high. I mean it's the super Bowl. Yeah,

1827
01:44:24,000 --> 01:44:26,400
Speaker 1: and you gonta say stakes are high because if the

1828
01:44:26,520 --> 01:44:31,040
Speaker 1: Bills win, this changes their whole legacy. Stakes are high.

1829
01:44:31,360 --> 01:44:33,320
Speaker 1: I think you gotta go pretty high with this. I think,

1830
01:44:33,479 --> 01:44:35,880
Speaker 1: where do you go? Eight point five nine nine? Maybe

1831
01:44:35,920 --> 01:44:39,160
Speaker 1: at least it's a super Bowl? What do you think?

1832
01:44:39,800 --> 01:44:42,679
Speaker 1: What did I think you gotta go eight five eight five?

1833
01:44:42,760 --> 01:44:46,120
Speaker 1: Because what was the Patriot stakes? One? I don't know

1834
01:44:46,280 --> 01:44:48,000
Speaker 1: that had has to be the highest when you're going

1835
01:44:48,040 --> 01:44:50,839
Speaker 1: in and the stakes are super Bowl and undefeated, potential

1836
01:44:50,920 --> 01:44:55,040
Speaker 1: season eight five star power is pretty high. High because

1837
01:44:55,080 --> 01:44:57,320
Speaker 1: we got the three Dallas guy, I mean you have

1838
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,519
Speaker 1: you have a bunch of you. There's a bunch of

1839
01:44:59,560 --> 01:45:02,120
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame over on that Buffalo side too, for sure.

1840
01:45:02,479 --> 01:45:05,000
Speaker 1: And Jim Kelly was a pro Bowler. I mean, he's

1841
01:45:05,040 --> 01:45:09,280
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer, Andre Reid, Bruce Smith. I mean,

1842
01:45:09,360 --> 01:45:11,600
Speaker 1: they got countless guys. Should we do we go eight

1843
01:45:11,720 --> 01:45:16,080
Speaker 1: five on that too? Or nine? Fuck? We we've got

1844
01:45:16,120 --> 01:45:18,639
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson. Damn we got to go like nine? Maybe

1845
01:45:18,720 --> 01:45:21,400
Speaker 1: do we go nine or nine five? In the nineties,

1846
01:45:21,680 --> 01:45:23,559
Speaker 1: I mean, Michael, it's weird to call oj a star

1847
01:45:23,640 --> 01:45:25,599
Speaker 1: at this point, but we but this was pre murder.

1848
01:45:25,680 --> 01:45:28,920
Speaker 1: He was a star, and Mike did say there's no

1849
01:45:29,040 --> 01:45:31,679
Speaker 1: way he was gonna miss Michael Jackson's performance a halftime

1850
01:45:31,720 --> 01:45:34,000
Speaker 1: because he was that big of a star. I mean,

1851
01:45:34,240 --> 01:45:36,160
Speaker 1: Michael Jackson kind of puts us to the point where

1852
01:45:36,160 --> 01:45:38,920
Speaker 1: we kind of have to go nine five. I mean,

1853
01:45:40,040 --> 01:45:41,720
Speaker 1: is it weird? I mean we might have to go

1854
01:45:41,840 --> 01:45:45,000
Speaker 1: high Michael Jackson. Dude, is this like nine to seven?

1855
01:45:46,040 --> 01:45:49,360
Speaker 1: Is that crazy? Let's go nine to seven. It's Michael Jackson.

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Speaker 1: It's a big, big star power game. He might be

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Speaker 1: the biggest star we've I mean, he might be the

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Speaker 1: biggest star we've even mentioned on the show. Who's a

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01:45:56,920 --> 01:45:59,639
Speaker 1: bigger star than Michael Jackson. I don't know, but I've

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Speaker 1: seen some documentaries were like he goes to a country

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Speaker 1: and like there's like a million people waiting for him,

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Speaker 1: and there's no social media, there's no it's like by

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Speaker 1: word of mouth that he might be coming there. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean, I I damn nine to seven. I feel

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Speaker 1: like nine to seven might we might even be sleeping

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Speaker 1: on his star power. But gameplay not a I mean, look,

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Speaker 1: it's they blew him out. They blew him out. It's

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Speaker 1: not a good game game play live. Yeah. Five name,

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Speaker 1: that's a good name. Good name, it's a it's an

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Speaker 1: iconic name. It's an iconic saying that you hear from

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Speaker 1: every cowboy fan. Eight eight five you gotta go eight

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Speaker 1: five eight five, eight point oh seven five. I could

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Speaker 1: we could run that to an eight point one gameplay. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the gameplay, I mean it's just not a great I mean,

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Speaker 1: it was cool to watch Aikman just go off, but

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Speaker 1: it's not a great game in the defense. And we

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Speaker 1: we we appreciate great defense here on this podcast. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but like when you got blowout in the last game

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Speaker 1: of the year, you can't have that. Yeah, that's a

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Speaker 1: blowout like a Jewish woman with curly hair right there.

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Speaker 1: It's a real blowout. And that's all for this episode

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Speaker 1: of Games with Names. Presented by when Bet. Thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for listening, guys, and thank you to our sponsors.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on all the social media outlets. At games

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Speaker 1: with names, I'm Julian Edelman, I'm Sammurel. See you at

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Speaker 1: the next game with the next name.