1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,880 Speaker 1: Hello Texans, and welcome to the program that gets you 2 00:00:02,920 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: in touch with your Houston Texans. Mark VanderMeer and John 3 00:00:06,880 --> 00:00:11,200 Speaker 1: Harris with you from the Hyunday Texans Mobile radio studio 4 00:00:11,280 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: as we get ready for a big weekend, many people 5 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:16,160 Speaker 1: around the city getting ready for spring break. Many people 6 00:00:16,160 --> 00:00:18,200 Speaker 1: feel like they've been on spring break for about a year, 7 00:00:18,440 --> 00:00:21,320 Speaker 1: but a working spring break. I get it. I understand. 8 00:00:21,440 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 1: It's been very strange, and here we are. It's the 9 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:26,320 Speaker 1: one year anniversary of when everything's shut down Johnny by 10 00:00:26,360 --> 00:00:28,760 Speaker 1: the way, and it was very bizarre a year ago. 11 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: And I remember it distinctly because we were actually on 12 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: spring break and then we had this huge senior management 13 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: meeting to go over things. So I was like, yeah, 14 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 1: this is a great spring break so far. And the 15 00:00:38,800 --> 00:00:41,320 Speaker 1: Rodeos shut down and we've got over the basketball stuff 16 00:00:41,320 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: and the week afterwards was free agency. So this year 17 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,480 Speaker 1: it's weird. I'm actually going to be bouncing around out 18 00:00:48,479 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: of town for springbreak. You're back here, but I'll be 19 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,360 Speaker 1: popping on the air as needed as free agents sign. 20 00:00:54,400 --> 00:00:57,080 Speaker 1: How you doing, my friend, I'm doing pretty well. You know. 21 00:00:57,120 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 1: It's interesting, Mark, and I was trying to remember the 22 00:01:00,320 --> 00:01:07,440 Speaker 1: date that everything sort of went haywire and everybody kind 23 00:01:07,440 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: of circles the eleventh because I think that was the 24 00:01:10,560 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 1: I think that was the night the NBA shut down, 25 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 1: but I remember I was in It's weird when you 26 00:01:18,520 --> 00:01:21,640 Speaker 1: do something so often. You go through a drive through, 27 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 1: you go through a particular restaurants drive through, and there's 28 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,760 Speaker 1: one for our family that we go through a lot, 29 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: and I was in there getting food and I just 30 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 1: remember listening to Sports Radio six ten. It was a 31 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: little later than usuals after all of our shows, and 32 00:01:38,720 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: they came on and said Rudy Gobert has COVID, and 33 00:01:44,120 --> 00:01:46,720 Speaker 1: I just remember that whole video of him touching all 34 00:01:46,760 --> 00:01:50,160 Speaker 1: the phones and I just went, oh no, this is 35 00:01:50,200 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: not good. And literally, in that drive through took about 36 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, five to seven minutes. It went from 37 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:02,720 Speaker 1: Rudy Gobert tested pose the Mavericks game or the Oklahoma 38 00:02:02,760 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: City Thunder game. I came up that's who was. I 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: think Oklahoma City Thunder and the Jazz. That game has 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,760 Speaker 1: been canceled and the league has been put on a hiatus. 41 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,800 Speaker 1: And I just remember thinking, oh no, what's gonna happen? 42 00:02:14,360 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: And then you think, okay, a couple of weeks months, 43 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:22,200 Speaker 1: it'll clear out. Here we are a year later, still fighting, 44 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: still still fighting, but at least we have sports. At 45 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:30,799 Speaker 1: least we got sports into the inclusion with baseball with 46 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: the shortened season in basketball with the bubble, and then 47 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,640 Speaker 1: basketball now the NCAA tournament last year was canceled, which 48 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: was bizarre, and you had all the conference tournaments cut short, 49 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,480 Speaker 1: and the South Conference tournament was cut short last year 50 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: and it's not this year. It's at the Merril Center 51 00:02:47,560 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 1: in Katie, and you and I will be there tomorrow 52 00:02:49,080 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: night to call the final, the final game, semifinals tonight, 53 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,800 Speaker 1: by the way, gone over there and check it out. 54 00:02:55,000 --> 00:02:57,560 Speaker 1: And then tomorrow night eight thirty tip live right here 55 00:02:57,600 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: on these air waves for the final championship game. Looking 56 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:03,239 Speaker 1: forward to working a basketball game with you, my friend. 57 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 1: You're doing double duty because you're calling what the football 58 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,840 Speaker 1: game tomorrow. I've got an outstanding one. I've got Sam 59 00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:14,760 Speaker 1: Houston State taken on Nicols State at SAM and they're 60 00:03:15,360 --> 00:03:19,120 Speaker 1: arguably the two best teams going into the Southland Conference season. 61 00:03:19,120 --> 00:03:22,760 Speaker 1: They thought the three best teams would be Nichols, Southeastern Louisiana, 62 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:26,560 Speaker 1: and SAM. And SAM beat Southeastern in a tremendous game, 63 00:03:27,080 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 1: not just past Saturday, but the Saturday before so Sam 64 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:32,720 Speaker 1: had a game and they had a week off. Now 65 00:03:32,760 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: they play Nichols and this is a big one. This 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:39,840 Speaker 1: will be I think for the Southland Conference championship to 67 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 1: see who moves on. And that's one of the odd things. 68 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:46,840 Speaker 1: Will not get thrown on the pile of odd things, Mark, 69 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: but this one is big for the Southern Conference. But 70 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 1: they're still playing a playoff, so they have six games. 71 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,440 Speaker 1: They have seventeens playings that have six games all conference games, 72 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 1: and then they'll go into a playoff. So you get 73 00:04:01,440 --> 00:04:03,720 Speaker 1: into the playoff. I think they cut it down to 74 00:04:03,840 --> 00:04:06,440 Speaker 1: just sixteen teams. That's still if you go all the 75 00:04:06,440 --> 00:04:09,200 Speaker 1: way to the championship, that's four more games. You will 76 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,600 Speaker 1: have played ten games from the last week of February 77 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:17,359 Speaker 1: all the way to middle of May, turn around and 78 00:04:17,400 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: play a regular season in twenty twenty one. Oh managed 79 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:26,159 Speaker 1: football off. Yes, I guess it is, and we're gonna 80 00:04:26,160 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 1: find out what the effect is. But it's only those 81 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: teams that are going all the way. So that's two 82 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: teams go all the way that get that much. And 83 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:35,080 Speaker 1: it kind of reminds me of Texas High School of 84 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: football playoffs, where you have the six extra weeks of 85 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,719 Speaker 1: playoffs to win it all. You're playing an NFL season 86 00:04:40,760 --> 00:04:44,159 Speaker 1: basically to win a state championship in the lone star state. 87 00:04:44,200 --> 00:04:46,680 Speaker 1: But that is interesting when I say you Mass in 88 00:04:46,720 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 1: the nineties when they won the Division one Double A 89 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,840 Speaker 1: at the time national championship. It was a sixteen team 90 00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:56,520 Speaker 1: field back then, and they were twelve seed, and I 91 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: just remember that being a you know, smaller field than 92 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:01,400 Speaker 1: and that kind of thing. And I just I love 93 00:05:01,480 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: playoffs college football. I think it's great, and I wish 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:06,520 Speaker 1: we had one in the FBS, but we don't. We 95 00:05:06,600 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: definitely do in NCAA basketball, and all the conference tournaments 96 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: jammed up right now. It's fun. You have a lot 97 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: of weird stories with COVID football. Obviously, we have a 98 00:05:17,360 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: situation where the league year begins next week. We talked 99 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,479 Speaker 1: about it last night March seventeenth. Legal tampering underway on Monday. 100 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 1: A lot of signings taking place right now, and Johnny, 101 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:30,880 Speaker 1: it's kind of the pre shopping season, right This is 102 00:05:30,920 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: like the nutcracker market, whereas at night where the ladies 103 00:05:34,279 --> 00:05:36,839 Speaker 1: go in and have wine, some men but mostly ladies 104 00:05:36,880 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: go in and have some wine and they get some 105 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,320 Speaker 1: bargains before the whole thing starts. That's what's happening right 106 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: now in free agency. Right You're signing some guys who 107 00:05:45,480 --> 00:05:49,400 Speaker 1: are out there get some bargains before the whole shopping 108 00:05:49,480 --> 00:05:53,720 Speaker 1: spree really gets underway on Monday, and then officially on 109 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: Wednesday with the signings taking place, And let's go over 110 00:05:55,920 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: with the Texans got done today early it was announced 111 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:02,599 Speaker 1: not by the team, but reported that Christian Kirksey signed 112 00:06:02,760 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: linebacker with the Green Bay Packers. Your thoughts on that acquisition. 113 00:06:08,040 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: With every acquisition that we've seen, or every signing starting 114 00:06:11,800 --> 00:06:16,200 Speaker 1: with Justin Britt last Friday, I think it was there's 115 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:21,760 Speaker 1: one thing that seemingly stands out to me, and it's 116 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: the number one that each of these contracts are one 117 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,279 Speaker 1: year deals. And you can look at it one or 118 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:30,680 Speaker 1: two ways. You know, Justin Britt is coming off an 119 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 1: acl taire in the middle of twenty nineteen. He hasn't 120 00:06:34,080 --> 00:06:36,279 Speaker 1: played since. It's kind of a proven deal. Is he 121 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 1: back all the way mark ingram one year deal? What's 122 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:43,440 Speaker 1: he got left in the tank? He proves he's got something, 123 00:06:43,680 --> 00:06:45,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe he can get another two year, three 124 00:06:45,640 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 1: year deal after that, Vernon Hargraves resigned. That's a one 125 00:06:50,040 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: year deal, and of course Christian Kirtzy it's a one 126 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:55,360 Speaker 1: year deal. It's twenty eight years old. I think he's 127 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:57,520 Speaker 1: a whale of a linebacker. I think he's been productive 128 00:06:57,520 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: wherever he's been with the Browns and Packers, a heck 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: of a leader. And I thought he put together and 130 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 1: strung together some really good outings for the Packers. Now 131 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 1: we didn't see him. I think he was banged up 132 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: for the game in Week seven when we played him, 133 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 1: but he strung together some really good ball games, double 134 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: digit tackle games. He's a guy that's been around, you know, 135 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: with the Browns of the Packers. He's been around for 136 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:25,400 Speaker 1: a while. So you're bringing in a vet one year deal, 137 00:07:26,200 --> 00:07:30,360 Speaker 1: and I would imagine that a lot of players that 138 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:34,320 Speaker 1: are free agents or cap casualties, if you will, are 139 00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:37,200 Speaker 1: looking at things going, hey, wait a second, I'd like 140 00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: to have a little bit more stability, but I'll take 141 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:43,600 Speaker 1: what I can get. I'll take this one year deal. 142 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,600 Speaker 1: I'll go rack up one hundred and twenty tackles show 143 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,000 Speaker 1: that I still got it, and then I can sign 144 00:07:49,000 --> 00:07:51,000 Speaker 1: a longer term deal, whether it's with the Texans or 145 00:07:51,040 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: with somebody else. The other aspect of this are that 146 00:07:55,040 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: the signings at this point aren't impacting the compensatory pick formula. Now, 147 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:04,320 Speaker 1: if you or anybody asked me what that formula is, 148 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,200 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be able to tell you. I know that 149 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 1: there are components of undrestricted free agents, playing time, there's 150 00:08:13,040 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 1: a lot of other factors that get involved, but there 151 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 1: are certain signings that aren't factored in to the compensatory 152 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: pick formula. These players that have been signed are not 153 00:08:26,480 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 1: in that or they're not in that compensatory formula. So 154 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: if you look at it and say, okay, well you 155 00:08:33,200 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: know first or second this year, and leave that as 156 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 1: it may. You want to have additional draft picks as 157 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: much as you possibly can, So where can you get them. 158 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: You can get them through the compensatory pick formula. Texans 159 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,599 Speaker 1: have had that. I think it was a couple of 160 00:08:51,640 --> 00:08:55,040 Speaker 1: years ago. They had a third round compensatory that ended 161 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: up going to Cleveland and Duke Johnson deal. But they 162 00:08:57,440 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 1: had a third round and I think they had two 163 00:08:58,880 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 1: six round compensatory. So if there's a way to build 164 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,400 Speaker 1: a football team, what are some of the ways people 165 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: don't think about too often. Compensatory picks. Those are additional 166 00:09:09,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: picks you can get waiver wire pickups. Those are a 167 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 1: fantastic way to do it. And this way, and that 168 00:09:16,720 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: is signing players that don't fall into that compensatory pick 169 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 1: formula that you can bring on that are veterans that 170 00:09:23,440 --> 00:09:25,800 Speaker 1: have been around the league a little bit, that are 171 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:29,640 Speaker 1: guys with experience. And that's one thing I was thinking 172 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: about bart when I'm building my team, I'd like to 173 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:34,040 Speaker 1: have a bunch of young guys. That's just me. I'd 174 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 1: like to have a bunch of young, aggressive dudes. Hey, 175 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:38,640 Speaker 1: I got to play a bunch of first second year guys. 176 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:41,120 Speaker 1: I'm cool with that. But you gotta have some veteran 177 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,079 Speaker 1: presents somewhere in the building. You gotta have the guys 178 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: that come in with the you know, with the rookies, 179 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: and hopefully things will get back to normal so there 180 00:09:48,760 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: will be a normal locker room environment. And I think 181 00:09:51,360 --> 00:09:53,640 Speaker 1: it's so important for the young guys to be able 182 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: to look over and you know, Texans draft a linebacker 183 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: I don't know, let's just use for instance, Jabril Cox 184 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:03,559 Speaker 1: from out lsu Real Cox coming in very mature individual. 185 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,560 Speaker 1: He's never been an NFL locker room. Christian Kirksey takes 186 00:10:06,600 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 1: him under his wing. Away, you go, Gimiko Ryans to 187 00:10:09,720 --> 00:10:12,679 Speaker 1: Brian Cushing under his wing. You know those things, and 188 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:14,960 Speaker 1: then you know you just kind of pass it down. 189 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: Cushing took b Mac under his wing. B Mac took 190 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,040 Speaker 1: Zach under his wing. Zach's taken. You know, he could 191 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,440 Speaker 1: take a rookie linebacker. Now he got out of Christian Kirkzy. 192 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:27,920 Speaker 1: That comes in and he adds a veteran influence as well. Look, 193 00:10:27,960 --> 00:10:31,719 Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna turn into Luke Keikley. I 194 00:10:31,720 --> 00:10:33,560 Speaker 1: don't think he's gonna be that kind of player, But 195 00:10:33,600 --> 00:10:36,240 Speaker 1: I think he's gonna be a good, solid player in 196 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:40,640 Speaker 1: a defense that just needs more good solid football players. 197 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: You bring up a really good point with a one 198 00:10:42,440 --> 00:10:45,680 Speaker 1: year deals, because when Gaine was here, he kind of 199 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 1: liked the one year deal. Felt like that was not everybody, 200 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: but that was a way to make a guy prove 201 00:10:51,640 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: it and it helped everybody. Tyrann Matthew right, that kind 202 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: of thing was working out pretty well for the Texans. 203 00:10:59,320 --> 00:11:01,320 Speaker 1: Then they went away from that for a year or so, 204 00:11:01,640 --> 00:11:03,640 Speaker 1: and now they're back to it, so we'll see where 205 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 1: it goes from here. Now, it's not going to be 206 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 1: everybody again, but some guys that's just the deal that 207 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: works best for them and works best for the team 208 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: as they employ their services. Vernon Hargraves is a text 209 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,320 Speaker 1: and once again on a one year deal. Your thoughts, 210 00:11:17,240 --> 00:11:22,480 Speaker 1: I think the one thing that will help Vernon, and 211 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:26,280 Speaker 1: this is gonna sound kind of best ackwards, but the 212 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 1: one thing that will help Vernon is if we sign 213 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:35,360 Speaker 1: draft or bring in a number of cornerbacks. Now I 214 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,320 Speaker 1: know you're gonna wait a second, how does that help 215 00:11:37,360 --> 00:11:40,240 Speaker 1: a cornerback if you bring in a bunch of other cornerbacks. Well, 216 00:11:40,320 --> 00:11:45,319 Speaker 1: if you separate corners from slot corners, the more outside 217 00:11:45,360 --> 00:11:48,960 Speaker 1: corners you have, the more it will allow Vernon to 218 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: go inside. And that to me is the biggest thing. 219 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: I think. When Garyon Conley was not able to go 220 00:11:55,720 --> 00:11:58,280 Speaker 1: and it forced Vernon out to play outside, that was 221 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,520 Speaker 1: kind of the first step in Look, we're not this 222 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 1: isn't where we wanted to be with this. We want 223 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:07,160 Speaker 1: a garry On and Roby to play an the outside. 224 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,160 Speaker 1: Vernon could play on the inside. He does some good 225 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: things from that position. He plays against slot receivers, which 226 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 1: is not an easy position to cover, but that just 227 00:12:16,520 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: more suits his skill set. He's up near the box. 228 00:12:19,640 --> 00:12:21,360 Speaker 1: He has a mind being physical, so he's got to 229 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:24,880 Speaker 1: help against the run. I think that's fine. But to 230 00:12:25,040 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 1: me kind of like there's a difference. You know, there's 231 00:12:28,240 --> 00:12:31,800 Speaker 1: defensive back and there's corner safety, and then amongst the 232 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:36,000 Speaker 1: corners there's corners, and then there's nickels and then the 233 00:12:36,120 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: safety group. I think there are big nickels and their safeties, 234 00:12:40,520 --> 00:12:42,480 Speaker 1: and I think I think that if you look at 235 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 1: it that way, I think Vernon was playing at a 236 00:12:45,440 --> 00:12:48,840 Speaker 1: position that I don't think he really fits him anymore. 237 00:12:49,360 --> 00:12:52,320 Speaker 1: But I think playing inside at that slot corner position 238 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: I think fits him much much better. So the more 239 00:12:56,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 1: guys that we get outside to play outside such that 240 00:13:00,679 --> 00:13:04,360 Speaker 1: he doesn't have to go outside, and it really you know, 241 00:13:04,440 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 1: you think about think about Kreem Jackson. I think he's 242 00:13:06,280 --> 00:13:09,079 Speaker 1: a perfect example. There was always this tendency to put 243 00:13:09,160 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: Kareem back a corner, put him back a corner, put 244 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: him back a corner. And then when there was a 245 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: time when there were enough corners so that Kreem didn't 246 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:19,440 Speaker 1: have to go outside, he went to safety, and he 247 00:13:19,480 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: played pretty well, but you just got stretched so thin 248 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:26,320 Speaker 1: that Kareem eventually had to keep going out the corner. Well, 249 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: I don't really want that to happen to Vernon. Let's 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,440 Speaker 1: get some corners that will keep Vernon from having to 251 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: go back outside where he really just isn't as great 252 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: a fit as he is on the inside, if that 253 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: makes sense. So more corners will actually, I think help 254 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:45,200 Speaker 1: Vernon the long run, because yes, he can go out 255 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,439 Speaker 1: there if needed, but I just don't think that fits 256 00:13:47,440 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 1: this skill set anymore. I think he's an inside guy, 257 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:54,719 Speaker 1: and that's fine. Every team now, I think when they 258 00:13:54,720 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: put together a depth chart, they should put you know, 259 00:13:57,960 --> 00:14:01,360 Speaker 1: NB or slot see me or whatever that should be 260 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: on their depth chart to get people used to fact 261 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 1: that that guy placed seventy five percent at a time. Well, 262 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,559 Speaker 1: I remember a day when the depth chart in team 263 00:14:11,600 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 1: releases was just standard base. Now almost every release has 264 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: three corners listed because they're gonna list a nickel guy, right, Yeah, 265 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: And look, this is just a depth chart for the media, 266 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 1: an unofficial depth chart at that, because you never know 267 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:28,360 Speaker 1: how they open up, what subgroup whatever. But I think 268 00:14:28,400 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: it's definitely evolved over time. All right, let's get it 269 00:14:30,920 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 1: to the Vandermock. Now, are you ready, my friend? Oh, 270 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:39,280 Speaker 1: this is awesome now I do year, yes, and I 271 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: have not seen this. Okay, I have not seen this 272 00:14:42,560 --> 00:14:44,840 Speaker 1: right for the show. You texted me and said, have 273 00:14:44,880 --> 00:14:47,040 Speaker 1: you seen Vandermark, And I'm like, no, I want to 274 00:14:47,040 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: be surprised. Yeah, get ready, here it is in all glory. 275 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:53,920 Speaker 1: All right. This is the one point zero for twenty 276 00:14:54,000 --> 00:14:57,880 Speaker 1: twenty one. And remember that you might think, oh, that 277 00:14:58,000 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 1: guy's not going to be there in that round. But 278 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:04,360 Speaker 1: the vander Mock, magical things happen. And because of this 279 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: and that, players drop and they fall right into my lap. Now, 280 00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: a couple of things I've gotten right over the years, 281 00:15:10,160 --> 00:15:13,240 Speaker 1: Tom Savage and fourteen. I got John Reid right last year. 282 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm not really trying to guess. I'm really trying to 283 00:15:15,240 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: do my best draft. And very often, I mean very 284 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: often I get the position groups right in whatever round 285 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:23,800 Speaker 1: I have them, all right. So with no first and 286 00:15:23,840 --> 00:15:27,800 Speaker 1: second round pick, here we go Round three. Cornerback. I 287 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,960 Speaker 1: went there, you wanted some you wanted some guys who 288 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:39,680 Speaker 1: could play this spot outside from Georgia Eric Stokes, Boy, 289 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: that Mark. If you get Eric Stokes at at corner, 290 00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: how fast? What's the fastest forty that used? What's the 291 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,760 Speaker 1: fastest forty of anybody that's come in the building? Is 292 00:15:52,760 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 1: it Wills? It's like, yeah, high four twos? Right? Was that? 293 00:15:56,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 1: What fuller was? Fuller? Hot was four three one? Who 294 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: ran the alleged four one five or something? Was that? Vincent? Oh, 295 00:16:05,000 --> 00:16:10,960 Speaker 1: Wendell Williams. Will Williams remember Wendell Well, Yeah, I bring 296 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: that up because Eric Stokes at they had at House 297 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: of Athletes that was kind of It's kind of one 298 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:20,680 Speaker 1: of these new exo shops where you know, guys are 299 00:16:20,720 --> 00:16:22,960 Speaker 1: going to do training, and I think House of Athletes 300 00:16:22,960 --> 00:16:24,920 Speaker 1: are Brandon Marshall deal. I think he's done it with 301 00:16:25,040 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 1: Chad Ochre Sinko and so they did kind of like 302 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:32,000 Speaker 1: a like a combine basically right, and they've got a 303 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 1: number of guys there. Eric Stokes ran a four two 304 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: five forty. Now, even if you're sitting there going, uh, well, 305 00:16:40,880 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: you know it's a prote thanks, so you tack on 306 00:16:43,240 --> 00:16:46,520 Speaker 1: like point one or point one five whatever, Okay, that's 307 00:16:46,520 --> 00:16:50,600 Speaker 1: still in the four three range at six one one 308 00:16:50,720 --> 00:16:55,440 Speaker 1: eighties in change. Now, I do think his game needs 309 00:16:55,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: a little bit of um. It needs some polish man. 310 00:17:00,920 --> 00:17:02,760 Speaker 1: You talk about you talk about a guy with that 311 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: size and that speed, the ability to flip his hips 312 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,240 Speaker 1: and run and be physical. And you play at Georgia, 313 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:12,040 Speaker 1: you play at Alabama. You've been coached pretty hard in secondary, 314 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 1: very hard. So he's a tough guy. Can come up 315 00:17:16,240 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 1: and tackle, can cover one on one, can flip his hips, 316 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: and that closing speed is so evident. You get Eric 317 00:17:24,320 --> 00:17:27,320 Speaker 1: Stokes round three, number sixty seven, you gotta feel like 318 00:17:27,359 --> 00:17:29,639 Speaker 1: you just got Justin Reid all over again. Not the 319 00:17:29,680 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 1: type of player, but just sort of a gift. I 320 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: think I've got him in the fifty. I think he's 321 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,679 Speaker 1: fifty six or fifty seven and the Harris one hundred. 322 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,080 Speaker 1: So I like that pick thus far at sixty seven, 323 00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:42,040 Speaker 1: but that would be a gift. It'd be nice. But 324 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:44,440 Speaker 1: which means, I mean you have him in the top 325 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: sixty of the Harris one hundred. Oh he does, mean 326 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:49,520 Speaker 1: he could drop. So there's no doubt, no doubt, no doubt. 327 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: All right, So let's see round four. I'm gonna stay 328 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: in the secondary, Johnny. We need help back there, and 329 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to Blake Bortles and a J. Boyer's 330 00:17:56,680 --> 00:18:02,400 Speaker 1: alma mater and pick up Richie Grant at Okay, now, 331 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 1: I absolutely be on a shadow of a doubt. If 332 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,880 Speaker 1: this happens, I will kiss you on the air. Oh no, 333 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna be on zoom. Grant is a straight, true baller. 334 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:25,800 Speaker 1: He is a phenomenal football player. If he makes it, 335 00:18:26,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: what's our next pick? Sixty seven? After sixty seven, it's 336 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: the first one of the fourth round? Wait because something Yeah, 337 00:18:34,320 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: it's like a hun Richie. I, Oh my gosh, I 338 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:40,120 Speaker 1: would throw a party. Here's the other thing, though, if 339 00:18:40,119 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: he got to us at that point, I would think 340 00:18:42,600 --> 00:18:46,439 Speaker 1: something's wrong because Richie Grant's a top fifty player. He 341 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:50,560 Speaker 1: is a phenomenal, phenomenal safety. I'm telling you, though, Mark, 342 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: if you come out of there with Eric Stokes and 343 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:56,000 Speaker 1: Richie Grant, throw a party because you just drafted two 344 00:18:56,040 --> 00:18:58,520 Speaker 1: starters for twenty twenty one and be odd. Here's Ritchie 345 00:18:58,560 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Grant is a phenomenal safe. Sometimes safeties they kind of 346 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: slip a little bits, No doubt, I don't disagree. We'll 347 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,639 Speaker 1: get a safety later. Man. We didn't solve our safety problem, 348 00:19:09,680 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: all right, So what we got a really sexy wide 349 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:14,359 Speaker 1: receiver anyway, I got a running back or whoever, and 350 00:19:14,400 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 1: they forgot all about the safety. That's what I'm hoping happens. 351 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:19,120 Speaker 1: All right, we have two picks in the fourth round 352 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: here for the Houston Texans, Johnny with the second one 353 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:25,120 Speaker 1: staying on defense here and I'm going on the line here. 354 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:27,119 Speaker 1: I'm gonna play a lot of four to three and 355 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:28,720 Speaker 1: a guy who can kind of fill in and beat 356 00:19:28,800 --> 00:19:34,679 Speaker 1: versatile there from the University of Houston, a local, Peyton Turner. 357 00:19:35,320 --> 00:19:39,640 Speaker 1: I took him at a west side and he'll be 358 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:43,560 Speaker 1: an interesting player for them. I love this pick. I 359 00:19:43,680 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: love it. Mark, just a slam dunk. I mean, you listen, 360 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: I wish I were say. I can't wait for you 361 00:19:49,280 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 1: to have a bad pick here. But Peyton Turner is 362 00:19:54,800 --> 00:19:58,000 Speaker 1: first of all, he was a guy that and I 363 00:19:58,000 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a little bit more of 364 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: a story. I know, I know his agent, his agent 365 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:05,320 Speaker 1: Ivan that we've known each other for fifteen to twenty years. 366 00:20:05,720 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 1: And so we're at the Senior Bowl. We're talking and 367 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,439 Speaker 1: I always ask him, you know, who do you have 368 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 1: this year? And he said, oh, I got Payton Turns. 369 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: Oh Man. So I started getting a little bit more 370 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 1: of the story. I'm Payton Turner, although I knew a 371 00:20:15,800 --> 00:20:17,200 Speaker 1: lot of it, but he told me a few things. Though. 372 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: He's a basketball player and he looks like it, but 373 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: he was kind of off the radar screen at the 374 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,960 Speaker 1: beginning of the season, but was playing pretty well. And 375 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,639 Speaker 1: Jim Nagget at the Senior Bowl was, you know, the 376 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,480 Speaker 1: agent contacts and hey, what about painting turn from Houston Nage. 377 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: He's like, ah, you know, he's a late round guy, 378 00:20:35,400 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: and I don't really want to mess with it. And 379 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:39,680 Speaker 1: so the agent said, look, why don't you watch this game? 380 00:20:40,440 --> 00:20:42,600 Speaker 1: I think it was a two lane game, and Turner 381 00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 1: went off. Naggie then tweeted, holy cow, the improvement he 382 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 1: made from junior to senior years out of control. Good. 383 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 1: We gotta take a look at this guy. They invited 384 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,520 Speaker 1: him to Senior Bowl. He was awesome for two days 385 00:20:54,520 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: and was dinged up on day three. The first day 386 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 1: he spent almost exclusively playing on the inside. The second 387 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 1: day he played on the outside, and as I talked 388 00:21:06,600 --> 00:21:08,320 Speaker 1: to the agent said, I think he's the perfect kind 389 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: of candidate to be an outside guy on first down, 390 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:16,480 Speaker 1: second down rundowns, and then on second third down passing downs, 391 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: bumped to the inside. You know, he kind of like Charles, 392 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:20,680 Speaker 1: you know, like Charles will do. You know, Charles will 393 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,280 Speaker 1: play outside in a four three. Charles will play outside 394 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,560 Speaker 1: and then bump inside to rush. And I think Peyton 395 00:21:26,600 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 1: Turner as a player that could do those things. I 396 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 1: do think that Peyton would probably play the run a 397 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:36,880 Speaker 1: little bit better. But the athleticism is off the charts 398 00:21:37,600 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: for this guy. I think he is a I think 399 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: he is the perfect base end sub interior rusher. He 400 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 1: is the model. I think he would be a great 401 00:21:46,880 --> 00:21:49,600 Speaker 1: fit for this defense for sure. Okay, let's go to 402 00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,280 Speaker 1: round five. Now you're gonna be a little surprised, as 403 00:21:53,320 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 1: my dog starts barking because she wants to get out 404 00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:58,200 Speaker 1: of this studio. But you're gonna be a little surprised here. 405 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:01,119 Speaker 1: And by the way, we'll do this pick and then 406 00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,240 Speaker 1: we'll take a break because I have more, including a 407 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,960 Speaker 1: quarterback in this vander Mock draft that we're doing here. 408 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: All right, round five, I gotta go get a running 409 00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,480 Speaker 1: back somewhere. I know that I have running backs, and 410 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 1: Ingram's there, reportedly Ingram's there, and of course you have 411 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: David Johnson and We've talked about the other guys a bunch, 412 00:22:19,200 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: but I'm gonna go raging cajing here, Dodd, go Trey 413 00:22:23,880 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: Ragus and pick him up, because you can never have enough. 414 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,080 Speaker 1: And I like what I see. I think he can contribute. 415 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:34,280 Speaker 1: It might be a bit of a journey, but he's interesting. 416 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 1: And it's round five, Johnny. I'm not taking him in 417 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:39,520 Speaker 1: the second round or anything. This is Trey Regus, round five. 418 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:44,040 Speaker 1: Running back Louisiana. Well, that wasn't the guy I thought 419 00:22:44,080 --> 00:22:48,200 Speaker 1: you were going to pick. No, that was not I 420 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:52,280 Speaker 1: was not thinking you were going here. I thought you 421 00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:56,919 Speaker 1: were gonna go Eli Mitchell, because you do that. I 422 00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: mean Eli Mitchell, I, Elijah Mitchell, Elon Mitchell. I love him. 423 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:08,159 Speaker 1: I think he is a tremendous, tremendous runner, and he 424 00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 1: can give you something in the receiving game. I think 425 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: he is a big time player. Now, Regas is a 426 00:23:16,119 --> 00:23:21,720 Speaker 1: big dude. I mean a big dude. It says to eighteen, 427 00:23:22,400 --> 00:23:26,000 Speaker 1: But when you see him run, You're like, that's a 428 00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: thick dude. I'm okay with big backs, I really am. 429 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:33,360 Speaker 1: And I mean you watch Derrick Henry. I mean, look, 430 00:23:33,359 --> 00:23:36,199 Speaker 1: how how much trouble people have tackling Derrick Henry. I 431 00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,080 Speaker 1: don't mind having a bruising kind of running back. You 432 00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,920 Speaker 1: get that with Mark Ingram too. You get a guy 433 00:23:42,480 --> 00:23:46,480 Speaker 1: that is he's not as big as David Johnson, but man, 434 00:23:46,520 --> 00:23:49,199 Speaker 1: he's hard to tackle. He is physical. Regas is that 435 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:53,600 Speaker 1: kind of guy. He is a physical, big, thick runner. 436 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't have any problem with big backs. I just 437 00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 1: thought you were gonna go Elijah Mitchell right here. So 438 00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:01,639 Speaker 1: Trey Regas a little bit of a surprise, but not 439 00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:06,840 Speaker 1: disappointed at all. Probably a little early, I would say, 440 00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 1: would you get a fifth round? Probably about maybe about right. 441 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,000 Speaker 1: I would probably say fifth or six for Regas, but 442 00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:16,240 Speaker 1: at close to two hundred and twenty pounds, he's thick 443 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,800 Speaker 1: and he runs that way. There were games where you'd 444 00:24:18,800 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: watch Louisiana and I kept waiting to watch mcgut Mitchell, 445 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:24,960 Speaker 1: and I'm like, who's number nine? Who's this dude? This 446 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:28,840 Speaker 1: guy's just running fools over. So Trey Regas, look at you. 447 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,119 Speaker 1: I like what you are doing? My friend? Well, I 448 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: just I'm disappointed in the pronunciation of his name because 449 00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: it's spelled rag a s. And I'm telling it was 450 00:24:37,880 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 1: Raggas And I could go raggas to riches and have 451 00:24:40,760 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: all this fun stuff to do as a play by 452 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:45,280 Speaker 1: play man. But that's not gonna happen. All right, We 453 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:49,480 Speaker 1: have three picks left in this year's Vandermack one point oh, 454 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:52,480 Speaker 1: including a quarterback that we know well. So that's coming 455 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:57,440 Speaker 1: up next here on Texans Radio. 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That's apatche Corp 465 00:25:31,320 --> 00:25:38,760 Speaker 1: dot com. Now here's the show. Mark Vandermer, John Harris 466 00:25:38,800 --> 00:25:41,159 Speaker 1: with you on Texans Radio and doing a lot of 467 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: stuff tonight, going over free agent signings in the NFL 468 00:25:44,280 --> 00:25:48,160 Speaker 1: as they're getting those pre league year bargains. If you will, 469 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,760 Speaker 1: are they bargains? We don't know, but a lot of 470 00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:54,600 Speaker 1: teams out there looking for players to bolster their rosters 471 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:58,199 Speaker 1: before the big shopping spree starts next week. And Johnny, 472 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: we're going up to the Vandermock one point. It's on 473 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,880 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com at the Texans App. And we've 474 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,120 Speaker 1: been through the first few picks. Third round. I took 475 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,240 Speaker 1: Eric Stokes cornerback Georgia, then Richie Grant, the safety from 476 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,480 Speaker 1: UCF and the fourth, followed by Peyton Turner defensive end 477 00:26:12,600 --> 00:26:16,960 Speaker 1: uh in the fourth, Trey Regas running back Louisiana in 478 00:26:17,040 --> 00:26:21,800 Speaker 1: the fifth. All right, round six, go to mispronounce his name, 479 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:28,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver from Mississippi State, big dude or Cyrus Mitchell. 480 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 1: He is Johnny six four. Okay. He had that huge 481 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: game against LSU. Seven catches, one hundred eighty three yards, 482 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:39,320 Speaker 1: two touchdowns. He dropped off, but didn't Mississippi State of 483 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: quarterback issues and that contributed to the drop off. He 484 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:45,399 Speaker 1: drops like a stone. I might have to flip him 485 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,320 Speaker 1: in Regas, maybe take him in the fifth and Regas 486 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480 Speaker 1: in the sixth. What do you think of Mitchell right here? 487 00:26:49,520 --> 00:26:52,560 Speaker 1: Remember it's round six. Yeah, I remember that first game 488 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: against LSU and kJ Costello quarterback is just spitting it. 489 00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:02,720 Speaker 1: I mean he is finding everybody all over the field. 490 00:27:02,800 --> 00:27:06,200 Speaker 1: And Mitchell is one of those guys, and I'm like, man, 491 00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: they are going to light it up. And then Costellos 492 00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:14,840 Speaker 1: sort of fell off and it just it was not 493 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:19,320 Speaker 1: it was not a great situation. Mitchell's a is a 494 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:20,760 Speaker 1: big guy. I mean, you see him, it looks like 495 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:24,440 Speaker 1: a small forward. Yeah, that's the first thing that stands out, like, Okay, 496 00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: we've got Cobb, We've got qt we've got Cooks. Those 497 00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: guys are all point guards. I mean you've seen them. 498 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean they're they're you know, small in the size 499 00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: of point guards. I actually saw Isaiah Culture today in 500 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,160 Speaker 1: the in the parking lot and I was like, he's 501 00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:40,920 Speaker 1: put on some weight, and I was like, okay, he's 502 00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 1: a little bit bigger, but he's only he's looking at 503 00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:46,280 Speaker 1: me and the eyes, so he's six foot six one. Well, 504 00:27:46,320 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: Cyrus is a pretty true six four and a half 505 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:52,119 Speaker 1: six to five, go up and get it. And the 506 00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:56,760 Speaker 1: guy that comes to mind first was a guy that 507 00:27:56,880 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: Jags drafted last year that people around here very well, 508 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: and that's Colin Johnson. And Johnson played very well against 509 00:28:04,400 --> 00:28:07,560 Speaker 1: us in two games as a rookie six six, two 510 00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 1: hundred something pounds. It didn't run exceptionally well. Man balls 511 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,399 Speaker 1: in the air, he's gonna go get it, And I 512 00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:17,680 Speaker 1: think o Cyrus Mitchell is like that. And I think 513 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:20,199 Speaker 1: where Colin Johnson went, which was I think around the 514 00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:23,920 Speaker 1: fifth round, sixth round, that's where I think Mitchell ends 515 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 1: up going. But you add size to this receiving group, 516 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: so I like, I like what you're thinking. I like it. 517 00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,440 Speaker 1: I think that's probably about the right round was in 518 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: sixth round. I think that's probably about the right spot. 519 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: What I like about the receiver group is once you 520 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:47,840 Speaker 1: I mean, even even at that point, there's so many 521 00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:52,480 Speaker 1: receivers that are available that it really is going to 522 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:55,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna get to a point where teams have drafted 523 00:28:55,680 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: a receiver or they don't need a receiver, that you're 524 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 1: gonna have players in the top twenty or top twenty 525 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 1: five or your receiver rankings then end up falling into 526 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:07,720 Speaker 1: the fifth, sixth round because teams have just look, we 527 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: already took our receiver and we don't need one. And 528 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,040 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, you get a guy like 529 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,320 Speaker 1: Seth Williams from Auburn who ends up falling and you're like, look, 530 00:29:15,320 --> 00:29:18,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go get that guy. So getting those Syrus 531 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:20,880 Speaker 1: Mitchell in the sixth round, I think it's fantastic. But 532 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:24,880 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there isn't a player that 533 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:27,080 Speaker 1: we're like, wait a second, this guy's got second, third round. Great, 534 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,480 Speaker 1: he's gonna fall to us, just because there's so many 535 00:29:29,560 --> 00:29:33,240 Speaker 1: receivers and they're all different types too, so I think 536 00:29:33,240 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: you can get a really good bargain at the receiver position. 537 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:37,920 Speaker 1: I think Mitchell is a pretty good bargain, all right. 538 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:43,120 Speaker 1: Three picks in the sixth round. Tommy Kramer guard Notre Dame. 539 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 1: Gotta get an old lineman. I like the name Tommy 540 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 1: Kramer because it's the former quarterback from Rice and the Vikings, 541 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:53,240 Speaker 1: although it's spelled differently. And that's how I made this pick, Johnny, 542 00:29:53,320 --> 00:29:57,400 Speaker 1: the very scientific approach of picking a name. I like, hey, 543 00:29:57,440 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: it's round six. You tell me if there's any better 544 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: method of evaluating an ad alignment. No, there isn't. You 545 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,160 Speaker 1: got it. I mean that is that's that's the best 546 00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:10,240 Speaker 1: way to do it. I will say. I thought maybe 547 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: you would go interior offensive alignment a little bit earlier. However, 548 00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:20,720 Speaker 1: I think with what's happening around the league, I think 549 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: interior offensive line, you've already done it with Justin britt 550 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,680 Speaker 1: you got a one year whatever. You know his deal is, 551 00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:30,440 Speaker 1: it's not it's not breaking it back. I think you're 552 00:30:30,440 --> 00:30:32,440 Speaker 1: gonna be able to find I mean, you look what 553 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: the Chiefs did yesterday, Mitchell Schwartz. Was that yesterday? I 554 00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: think it was yesterday, Mitchell Schwartz release, Eric Fisher released. 555 00:30:40,080 --> 00:30:42,840 Speaker 1: Now those guys are tackles. But I think it just 556 00:30:42,880 --> 00:30:46,440 Speaker 1: shows that, Look, teams have got to get under the cap. 557 00:30:46,840 --> 00:30:48,840 Speaker 1: They're teams that have got to make moves. And there 558 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,040 Speaker 1: might be some players going, you know what, I'm thirty 559 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: I'm thirty one. I'm not taking a pay cut. I'm 560 00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:55,560 Speaker 1: not taking a pay cut. You have to release me. 561 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,120 Speaker 1: I'll go get a check from somebody else. And I 562 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: think there are gonna be players like that that in 563 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: the interior offensive line. So I do think, kind of 564 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:07,760 Speaker 1: talking myself into it here, I do think that maybe 565 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:10,480 Speaker 1: interior offensive line moves down the list a little bit, 566 00:31:10,520 --> 00:31:14,040 Speaker 1: although you can always use the depth and Tommy Kramer's 567 00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,040 Speaker 1: played a ton a ton of football at a very 568 00:31:19,040 --> 00:31:22,400 Speaker 1: good program. I do think that he is not quite 569 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:24,719 Speaker 1: the athlete that the guy on the other side is 570 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Banks, who I really like. But you're not getting 571 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Banks in the sixth round. Aaron Banks is a 572 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,960 Speaker 1: load at three thirty five and can move, which means 573 00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:36,560 Speaker 1: he's probably going in the fourth round at the latest. 574 00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 1: But in the sixth round you get a guy like 575 00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:41,520 Speaker 1: Tommy Kramer has played a lot of football. You gotta 576 00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: do it. You absolutely have to add depth the interior 577 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,360 Speaker 1: offensive line, and maybe you find a piece that you 578 00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:50,280 Speaker 1: think is a depth piece and that guy turns out 579 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:52,320 Speaker 1: to be a starter for a long time. All right, 580 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: continually with this vander Mock, it's still round six. I 581 00:31:55,880 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: have another pick here, and look, I only have one 582 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,360 Speaker 1: quarterback on the roster right now. His name is Deshaun Watson. 583 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:04,200 Speaker 1: I need some quarterback death. I need a guy to develop, 584 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:07,440 Speaker 1: so hear me out. And in fact, this stage of 585 00:32:07,480 --> 00:32:09,560 Speaker 1: the draft, there're gonna be a lot of quarterbacks with names, 586 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: you know, like Ian Book from Notre Dame should be 587 00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 1: available and guys like that. But I went local ish 588 00:32:15,440 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: and I went to the forty Acres and I'm doing it, Johnny, 589 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:23,120 Speaker 1: I'm taking Sam Ellinger because I'll tell you why. Hear 590 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: me out good TD to interception ratio. Right, the completion 591 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:32,120 Speaker 1: percentage wasn't that hot this year, but it's been pretty 592 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,719 Speaker 1: good in the past. And he's been the guy for 593 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:37,880 Speaker 1: a long time. Now he doesn't have to be the guy. 594 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:41,400 Speaker 1: He's a rookie in this league. He gets to study develop. 595 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:45,720 Speaker 1: Plus we get entertaining preseason games with a lot of interest. 596 00:32:46,200 --> 00:32:48,800 Speaker 1: This is a win for a lot of different reasons. 597 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 1: Take the quarterback from ut Oh, that last little piece 598 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,120 Speaker 1: you got me, that last little piece. I was waiting 599 00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,000 Speaker 1: for it and you gave it to me. It's about 600 00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: those preseason games. Oh yeah. And with with Sam Ellinger there, 601 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: you gotta listen with Sam. I don't I don't want 602 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 1: to make this comparison because I think it's it's probably 603 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: a It sounds as it's a well, it's a lazy comparison. 604 00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:22,880 Speaker 1: But when you think about Taysom Hill, Taysom Hill was 605 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: kind of like Sam in college and he ran the 606 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,560 Speaker 1: ball a ton Taysom random ball a Ton. Now Taysom 607 00:33:30,640 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: ended up bank, you know, get his knees just tore 608 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:35,760 Speaker 1: up like two or three years while he was at BYU, 609 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:37,720 Speaker 1: which is why I took him so long to get 610 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: to the next level. But Taysom just said, look, I'm 611 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: gonna do anything I gotta do now. I don't think 612 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,360 Speaker 1: that Sam is quite the athlete that Taysom is, but 613 00:33:46,440 --> 00:33:48,520 Speaker 1: I do think Sam is a much better thrower than 614 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:52,600 Speaker 1: Taysom ever was. And as I watched Sam last summer, 615 00:33:53,400 --> 00:33:57,160 Speaker 1: and I watched other prospects, and I found myself watching 616 00:33:57,200 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 1: a ton of games studying the twenty twenty class that 617 00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:03,440 Speaker 1: did have Sam Ellinger in it, I'm like, you know, 618 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: Sam throws the ball a whole lot better than people think, 619 00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:08,879 Speaker 1: but man, when he tucks it and runs it, he's 620 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 1: a pretty darn good fullback. And you think about that aspect. Hey, 621 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: down on the goal line and maybe there's something there. 622 00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: And as soon as you put another guy on the 623 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:23,600 Speaker 1: field that can throw the football, every defensive players and 624 00:34:23,760 --> 00:34:28,040 Speaker 1: tene go up and go, oh, hey, Sam's on the field. 625 00:34:28,200 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Hey keeping eye on number eleven. Keep an eye on 626 00:34:30,040 --> 00:34:32,919 Speaker 1: that guy. He can throw it and maybe he's never used. 627 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:34,239 Speaker 1: You know, it's the same thing with Taysom Hill. As 628 00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 1: soon as tastoms on the field, you've got to respect 629 00:34:36,120 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: the fact that he can throw it well, Sam can 630 00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:42,399 Speaker 1: run it too, and I think that's something that makes 631 00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 1: him very intriguing. And like I said, I hate using 632 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:49,160 Speaker 1: the Taysom Hill sort of argument. You know, Cordell Stewart 633 00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: was that guy before any of them, you know, called 634 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:55,279 Speaker 1: him slash. I think Sam from that standpoint, I don't 635 00:34:55,320 --> 00:34:57,880 Speaker 1: think i'd put Sam at receiver. But from a running 636 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: game standpoint, you put him in a backfield and you 637 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,360 Speaker 1: watch a defense kind of point at each other and go, hey, 638 00:35:04,719 --> 00:35:07,560 Speaker 1: we know that guy can throw the ball. And that's 639 00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,160 Speaker 1: just all of a sudden sets defenses and a whole 640 00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,480 Speaker 1: different mindset. And maybe there's no intent to get in 641 00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:16,120 Speaker 1: the ball in any way, shape or form, but defenses 642 00:35:16,239 --> 00:35:19,040 Speaker 1: have to respect it. It's the time that they don't. 643 00:35:19,040 --> 00:35:20,759 Speaker 1: They're all of a a sudden, Oh, Sam's gonna take it 644 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:24,200 Speaker 1: and then throw to somebody. So I like your thinking there. 645 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: What I like about a lot of these quarterbacks, they 646 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: kind of have some of that same So that same 647 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: feel is there for some of these quarterbacks, you know, 648 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:38,239 Speaker 1: guy like Felipe Franks. I don't think Phelipe runs the 649 00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:40,800 Speaker 1: ball as well as Sam does. So that's why I 650 00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:43,160 Speaker 1: kind of would say Sam probably fits a little bit 651 00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: better from that standpoint. But man, if you can just 652 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:49,960 Speaker 1: throw another wrinkle with one offensive player, a guy that 653 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:53,160 Speaker 1: can get into sixth round, man, it's absolutely worth it, 654 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: Absolutely worth it. I think I have the round right here, 655 00:35:56,360 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 1: I really do, all right. I mean he might flip 656 00:35:59,120 --> 00:36:01,200 Speaker 1: all the way out, but knows I've got one more 657 00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 1: pick in the Vandermk and around the league, which is 658 00:36:04,239 --> 00:36:07,560 Speaker 1: more surprising. Cam Newton back with new England or Brady 659 00:36:07,880 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: probably gonna play till least forty five years old. We'll 660 00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:14,440 Speaker 1: do that and more on Texans Radio. Welcome to Texans 661 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,759 Speaker 1: All Access. We are brought to you in part by 662 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:19,840 Speaker 1: dyke In. 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Check out their outstanding 671 00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:52,000 Speaker 1: limited warranties and financing options at your local dealer today. 672 00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:56,840 Speaker 1: Now back to the show final segment here on Texans 673 00:36:56,920 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 1: Radio tonight, Mark Vanderman and John Harris with you. All right, 674 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:01,440 Speaker 1: Johnny one more picking the Vandermock, which is up on 675 00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:04,720 Speaker 1: Houston Texans dot com and the Texans App. Round seven. 676 00:37:04,719 --> 00:37:08,640 Speaker 1: I got one pick here and listen, you're probably wondering, 677 00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,800 Speaker 1: Wait a minute, I'm about to break a federal law 678 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 1: because we all know in every draft the Texans must 679 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: take a tight end. It's a requirement. I think it's 680 00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: written in the Constitution and it doesn't really exist, but 681 00:37:23,920 --> 00:37:27,759 Speaker 1: it just feels that way. And this is something that 682 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,960 Speaker 1: would not have happened twenty years ago, where somebody transfers 683 00:37:30,960 --> 00:37:34,520 Speaker 1: from Florida State to Georgia. That actually happened to Mark Rick. 684 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:36,080 Speaker 1: But he's a coach that he got paid to do it. 685 00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 1: This is a player who did it and he's gonna 686 00:37:39,080 --> 00:37:41,719 Speaker 1: go somewhere in this draft. I would think Trey McKitty 687 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,600 Speaker 1: tight end Bulldogs and look, the guy has some ability, 688 00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: There's no question about it. It's round seven, he's still here. 689 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,320 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take him. I want to tight end. I 690 00:37:51,360 --> 00:37:54,320 Speaker 1: just want to develop a guy. And if he's projected 691 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: to go higher and pulling a Jedi mind trick, this 692 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:58,799 Speaker 1: is not the tight end you're looking for. So he 693 00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,160 Speaker 1: drops to the Houston Tech sense thoughts, I will dance 694 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,000 Speaker 1: a jig if Tray McKitty is there in seventh round seven. 695 00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:06,839 Speaker 1: This is our seventh round pick, right, So I said 696 00:38:08,239 --> 00:38:11,440 Speaker 1: I would dance a jig because he is a really 697 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,959 Speaker 1: good player. When when I was at the Senior Bowl, 698 00:38:14,640 --> 00:38:17,600 Speaker 1: he makes a catch going across the middle, a deep 699 00:38:17,640 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: over route and Mac Jones lays one on him, quarterback 700 00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,960 Speaker 1: from Alabama, and McKitty makes this one handed, right handed catch, 701 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: and I'm like, oh, my big. He's a lot like 702 00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: Pharaoh Brown in that sense that he'll he'll block the 703 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:37,879 Speaker 1: line of scrimmage, he can catch the football, he can 704 00:38:37,960 --> 00:38:40,359 Speaker 1: do some different things, can line up with a lot 705 00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: different places. I will readily admit mark this tight end group, 706 00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:51,560 Speaker 1: it doesn't have a lot of after Kyle Pitts. It 707 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:54,600 Speaker 1: is if you if you went to all thirty two 708 00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: teams and said you like Kyle Pitts, they all would say, 709 00:38:56,800 --> 00:39:00,320 Speaker 1: oh heck yeah. If you went to all thirty two teams, teams, 710 00:39:00,480 --> 00:39:03,400 Speaker 1: every prospect after that, I guarantee you there would not 711 00:39:03,520 --> 00:39:08,160 Speaker 1: be across the board a consensus. I mean even you 712 00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:10,399 Speaker 1: know Pat Fryer moves from Penn State, who I love. Hey, 713 00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:13,759 Speaker 1: you guys, look now, we don't quit. You don't really 714 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:16,520 Speaker 1: a lie up as in line Y doesn't runbock real well. 715 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:19,520 Speaker 1: He's a really good pass receiver. I don't know. Cole 716 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,080 Speaker 1: Pitts is the only one. Tight ends are really going 717 00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:26,000 Speaker 1: to be flavor of the month for particular teams. There 718 00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: are gonna be some scouts and some teams that are like, 719 00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:30,919 Speaker 1: oh yeah, we can do something with that guy. Trey 720 00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 1: McKinney is he checks a lot of boxes from the 721 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:37,600 Speaker 1: tight end position. I think seventh. I think he's gone 722 00:39:37,600 --> 00:39:40,560 Speaker 1: before round seven. But I do think there are some guys. 723 00:39:40,600 --> 00:39:42,200 Speaker 1: A couple of guys I saw at the Senior Bowl. 724 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:46,600 Speaker 1: One is John Bates from Boise State. He had the 725 00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:50,080 Speaker 1: best third day the last day of practice Senior Bowl 726 00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,160 Speaker 1: that I can remember anybody. He was fantastic. I'll give 727 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,480 Speaker 1: you another guy to watch. He's coming off an injury. 728 00:39:57,560 --> 00:40:01,440 Speaker 1: But Matt Bushman from BYU is more of a pass 729 00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:06,840 Speaker 1: catcher and he is a run blocker. But before his injury, 730 00:40:07,000 --> 00:40:09,279 Speaker 1: he was going to put up mad numbers with Zach 731 00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 1: Wilson this year, crazy numbers. But he got an injury 732 00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:18,320 Speaker 1: and that's set him back. He's the kind of guy 733 00:40:18,360 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 1: that I think you could get in round seven. I 734 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: don't know if you get all the way to the 735 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,200 Speaker 1: undrafted free agent process, but Matt Bushman is the kind 736 00:40:26,200 --> 00:40:27,800 Speaker 1: of guy that, hey, look if he's not one hundred 737 00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: percent healthy, it's okay. Give him time to continue to 738 00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: rehab because there is something no doubt there from Matt Bushman. 739 00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:37,960 Speaker 1: When he was healthy, he was one heck of a 740 00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,360 Speaker 1: pass catching tight end. He's the kind of guy I 741 00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:43,160 Speaker 1: think you could get maybe in round seven. But John 742 00:40:43,160 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: Bates Boise State, he was phenomenal to Senior Bowl in 743 00:40:45,520 --> 00:40:49,400 Speaker 1: that last day. Even though it's not a great class, 744 00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:52,520 Speaker 1: I do feel like there are some guys that you 745 00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 1: can get in around seven that would fit the bill. 746 00:40:56,000 --> 00:40:58,919 Speaker 1: And then McKinney's there in round seven. That's a slam dunk. 747 00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:03,920 Speaker 1: I mean I would pret McKinney to go probably high 748 00:41:03,920 --> 00:41:07,000 Speaker 1: and high in the fifth, mid mid to high in 749 00:41:07,040 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 1: the fifth. So if he gets the seventh best player available, 750 00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:13,759 Speaker 1: sign it up. Let's go grab him. Okay, that's the 751 00:41:13,800 --> 00:41:17,439 Speaker 1: Vandermarkt's up on Houston Texans dot Com. I quickly here 752 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:21,760 Speaker 1: Cam Newton back in New England. Brady new deal, Brady's 753 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,880 Speaker 1: gonna play till these forty five minimum, Johnny. I mean, 754 00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,560 Speaker 1: it's gonna happen. And it's bizarre here we are watching 755 00:41:27,880 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: greatness continue. But which is more surprising to you? I 756 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,960 Speaker 1: guess maybe it's even you know, Newton in New England 757 00:41:35,000 --> 00:41:37,479 Speaker 1: at this point, which is ridiculous considering we're talking about 758 00:41:37,480 --> 00:41:39,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback play till he's forty five years old at 759 00:41:39,480 --> 00:41:42,440 Speaker 1: an extremely high level. But I was surprised that the 760 00:41:42,440 --> 00:41:45,000 Speaker 1: Patriots went forward again. I know it's not a big deal, 761 00:41:45,840 --> 00:41:48,719 Speaker 1: but is he a backup? I mean, what's the deal here? 762 00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: Do they think that they can win with him this year? 763 00:41:51,840 --> 00:41:55,120 Speaker 1: They saw the movie and they think the sequel is 764 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 1: going to be better. And I'm not blaming it on Cam. 765 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: I know he was injured and everything else, but it 766 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:03,480 Speaker 1: just surprised me to see that happen today. Well, I 767 00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:05,600 Speaker 1: think with Cam before he got to COVID, he was 768 00:42:05,600 --> 00:42:09,879 Speaker 1: actually playing fairly well. But I just remember seeing him 769 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:13,640 Speaker 1: up close and you me and Jre talked about it 770 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:16,800 Speaker 1: during the game. He just looks like he was laboring 771 00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:21,560 Speaker 1: when he was throwing the football. And look that I 772 00:42:21,560 --> 00:42:24,320 Speaker 1: think was a couple of weeks week maybe two after 773 00:42:24,560 --> 00:42:28,880 Speaker 1: he had gotten gotten back from having COVID and he 774 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:31,919 Speaker 1: said on the podcast, I am an athlete. He talked 775 00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:34,839 Speaker 1: about then and said he just didn't seem right the 776 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,080 Speaker 1: rest of the year. So at that point, if you're 777 00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:42,400 Speaker 1: the Patriots, you probably have a pretty good idea about 778 00:42:42,520 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: Cam and what he's all about, and how hard he 779 00:42:44,800 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 1: works and what he does and how he goes about things. 780 00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: And the one thing I found out about Cam is 781 00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: he actually respects and lights Belichick a lot. I think 782 00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:57,839 Speaker 1: that's probably part of this too, because there probably aren't 783 00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,959 Speaker 1: too many guys that fuel the way that that Cam does. 784 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,200 Speaker 1: From that perspective, I think Belichick likes Cam because he's 785 00:43:04,239 --> 00:43:08,359 Speaker 1: incredibly smart, high football like you look, bring him back. 786 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: I think if he gets to the fourteen million total 787 00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,440 Speaker 1: is what has been reported, he'll have hit every instentive 788 00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: in the book, including getting I think the Patriots to 789 00:43:17,960 --> 00:43:20,759 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. So at that point you bring him back, 790 00:43:21,080 --> 00:43:24,520 Speaker 1: you probably draft somebody as well. Maybe he make some 791 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: moves to draft somebody and look, if Cam plays fairly well, 792 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: that young guy just sits and learns. And I think 793 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:32,879 Speaker 1: that's great for a young player to sit and learn 794 00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,440 Speaker 1: and not have to be thrown into the fire as 795 00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:38,880 Speaker 1: some and most first round rookies or just rookies in 796 00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,319 Speaker 1: general are. So if Cam Newton allows you to do that, 797 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:45,600 Speaker 1: rock on man, do it. And I think it was 798 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:47,719 Speaker 1: a smart move by the Patriots to do it and 799 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,959 Speaker 1: see what he's got. There's no harm if Cam comes 800 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,640 Speaker 1: back to camp and it's not there. You cut him 801 00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,279 Speaker 1: and there's there's, you know, water off a duck's back, 802 00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,360 Speaker 1: you move off. It's a it's not a Matt like 803 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: cap hit. You're taken to bring Cam Newton back, right, 804 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:05,160 Speaker 1: because I think we a lot of us expected some 805 00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: sort of big deal like a Garoppolo acquisition or something 806 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,680 Speaker 1: crazy like that, something marquee busting, and we didn't get it. Johnny, 807 00:44:13,719 --> 00:44:15,600 Speaker 1: that's the show tonight, Thanks so much for being with us. 808 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,120 Speaker 1: Look forward to talking with you tomorrow night. South Then 809 00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:20,600 Speaker 1: Conference Championship on sport Tradio sixteen. John Harris and I 810 00:44:20,680 --> 00:44:23,280 Speaker 1: have the call at eight thirty at the Merrill Center 811 00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: in Katie. Right here, are these airwaves and have a 812 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:29,520 Speaker 1: great weekend everyone. Texans free agency next week. Baby, let's 813 00:44:29,560 --> 00:44:31,719 Speaker 1: have it. Have a great weekend, Go Texans.