1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:03,080 Speaker 1: It's a Monday edition of One Bills Live with me, 2 00:00:03,200 --> 00:00:05,920 Speaker 1: Chris Brown and Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas billing in 3 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:08,920 Speaker 1: for Murph and Steve. Coming up on the show, we'll 4 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,960 Speaker 1: put a rap on Bill's mini camp and also discuss 5 00:00:12,000 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: how the team culture took roots so quickly in Buffalo's 6 00:00:15,560 --> 00:00:17,960 Speaker 1: locker room. At one o'clock, we'll talk a little World 7 00:00:18,000 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 1: Cup with our Bills soccer experts Polton Schmidt and Reid 8 00:00:21,960 --> 00:00:24,640 Speaker 1: Ferguson as they give us the lowdown on the world's 9 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,440 Speaker 1: most popular tournament. And then at two, it's a look 10 00:00:27,440 --> 00:00:30,720 Speaker 1: at the Patriots as we continue our tour around the 11 00:00:30,760 --> 00:00:35,240 Speaker 1: AFC East with ESPN dot Com Patriots insider Mike Reefs. 12 00:00:35,240 --> 00:00:51,600 Speaker 1: It's One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. Coming up next, 13 00:00:59,520 --> 00:01:03,280 Speaker 1: well him to a Monday edition of One Bills Live 14 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,119 Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive Chris Brown and Hall of Famer 15 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas, as you just heard in for a well 16 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:15,240 Speaker 1: a vacationing Steve Tasker. That's your chair and h and 17 00:01:15,360 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: a golfing John Murphy. He is at the media golf 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,320 Speaker 1: tour that the Bills run with the media that comes 19 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: out and covers the team on an annual basis, daily basis. 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:27,560 Speaker 1: So it's kind of a little bit of a giveback 21 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:30,360 Speaker 1: to the local media that covers the team, and Murph 22 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: is a part of that. I am not really a 23 00:01:33,920 --> 00:01:36,160 Speaker 1: golfer at all. I mean, you want me to go 24 00:01:36,200 --> 00:01:38,120 Speaker 1: out and hit, try to hit the ball around, they'll 25 00:01:38,160 --> 00:01:40,480 Speaker 1: do that, but don't rely on me for anything in 26 00:01:40,480 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: a scramble format or anything else, because mine's not going 27 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:45,720 Speaker 1: to be the best ball. So I said, yeah, you 28 00:01:45,760 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 1: know what, I'm gonna do the show instead. And Thurman 29 00:01:49,280 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 1: nice enough to join us here on a Monday, as 30 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: we are going to be Monday a hot month. Is 31 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,840 Speaker 1: this Texas hot? Because this is pretty hot for Buffalo. 32 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: Usually we're not quite Texas hot, Tea. It would be 33 00:02:00,320 --> 00:02:03,840 Speaker 1: ninety five right now, Okay with the humidity too, Yeah, 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:06,320 Speaker 1: make it like one hundred and five, because you guys, 35 00:02:06,400 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: I mean down there in Texas. Because I remember even 36 00:02:08,760 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 1: talking to Aaron Williams about this. Yeah, but because he 37 00:02:11,240 --> 00:02:13,480 Speaker 1: loved coming up here in the summer, because he's just like, 38 00:02:13,680 --> 00:02:15,679 Speaker 1: get me out of Texas in the summertime, he said, 39 00:02:15,680 --> 00:02:18,280 Speaker 1: because we would have he said, sometimes we'd have like 40 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,280 Speaker 1: twenty thirty days in a row of one hundred or more. 41 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: I can't even I don't have the blood for that. 42 00:02:25,639 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 1: I love it, you like it that really Back in 43 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 1: the day when when I was training back in Houston, 44 00:02:31,960 --> 00:02:37,440 Speaker 1: I'd come into training camp just ripped, oh rips ripped 45 00:02:37,520 --> 00:02:39,720 Speaker 1: just by hanging out in the humidity, and come back 46 00:02:39,760 --> 00:02:42,160 Speaker 1: to the training camps easy. Then, Yeah, training camp was easy. 47 00:02:42,160 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: I'd come back to training camp about at least seven 48 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: pounds under what I was normally supposed to be at 49 00:02:49,520 --> 00:02:52,360 Speaker 1: and it's a perfect place to train, perfect place to train. 50 00:02:52,480 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 1: But a week after that, being in Buffalo not so hot, 51 00:02:56,280 --> 00:02:59,320 Speaker 1: but ed weight came right back on, not burning it 52 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:02,680 Speaker 1: off like you're earlier. So a lot to discuss today. 53 00:03:02,800 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: On the show, Bill's minicamp is in the books and 54 00:03:05,560 --> 00:03:08,760 Speaker 1: the players are off for about five or six weeks 55 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:11,000 Speaker 1: before they report for training camp at the end of July, 56 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:14,240 Speaker 1: John down to Saint John Fisher. Would you say this 57 00:03:14,320 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: was the most relaxing time of the year on the 58 00:03:17,400 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: NFL calendar for you? THRM or like this time? Or 59 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 1: where's their anxiety? Like it's coming up fast here? I 60 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:26,960 Speaker 1: better keep training here, I better get my my time 61 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:29,320 Speaker 1: in in the gym, or no, it wasn't. I mean, 62 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean I was kind of looking forward to it. 63 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: I mean, you away from the guys all the time, 64 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: and you know we wanted to actually, you know, get 65 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 1: there and get involved with everything. So I mean I 66 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:40,880 Speaker 1: was you know, only bad thing about that is that 67 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,640 Speaker 1: you know, you would leave the kids for a month 68 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 1: one and a half or so and patting them would 69 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,800 Speaker 1: stay up in buff Up in Houston where we live. 70 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 1: But I was ready, I mean because it got to 71 00:03:50,800 --> 00:03:56,280 Speaker 1: like this point almost what end of June or whatever. 72 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:59,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's like six weeks out. Yeah, it's it's 73 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: almost not time to hit your peak, but it's it's 74 00:04:03,160 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 1: close to it. Okay, Yeah, yeah. I was curious what 75 00:04:05,640 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 1: goes through the heads that I say, like, oh, yeah, 76 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:09,680 Speaker 1: we're done, but you're really not done because the time 77 00:04:09,760 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: the windows so small. You don't want to take two 78 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: weeks off because now you just lose what you've been 79 00:04:14,440 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 1: building up in the spring. So I always wondering how 80 00:04:17,040 --> 00:04:20,120 Speaker 1: the how the players would balance that stuff. So we'll 81 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,520 Speaker 1: be we'll be checking in and putting like a bow 82 00:04:22,680 --> 00:04:25,479 Speaker 1: on Mini camp and everything that was part of that. 83 00:04:25,640 --> 00:04:28,760 Speaker 1: As it wrapped up last week, we'll also talk about 84 00:04:28,760 --> 00:04:30,719 Speaker 1: the jumping off point. The Bills have kind of left 85 00:04:30,760 --> 00:04:34,279 Speaker 1: for themselves with Mini camp now over, and we'll discuss 86 00:04:34,360 --> 00:04:36,640 Speaker 1: something that was readily apparent, at least to me in 87 00:04:36,760 --> 00:04:38,920 Speaker 1: watching a lot of the practices, and we'll get Therms 88 00:04:38,960 --> 00:04:42,080 Speaker 1: take on this as well. It's something that was out 89 00:04:42,080 --> 00:04:44,440 Speaker 1: on the field, that was present from top to bottom 90 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: on the roster and it was automatic and it's part 91 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 1: of our Twitter poll today also, so we'll get into 92 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:51,880 Speaker 1: that in just a few minutes. We've got some World 93 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Cup analysis that we're going to dive into. We're gonna 94 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,880 Speaker 1: kind of make Therm. We're gonna have him go from 95 00:04:56,880 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: a novice to an amateur in terms of World Cup 96 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: because but we're gonna find a team before we have 97 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: Colton Schmidt and read Ferguson on in our one o'clock hour, 98 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna find a team for Thurman to root for. 99 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: We're gonna go through uh five thirty eight dot com, 100 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 1: which has fantastic analytic World Cup analysis if you're interested 101 00:05:20,720 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: in that kind of a thing. But we're gonna find 102 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,320 Speaker 1: a way to pick the ideal team for Thurman to 103 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 1: root for for the World Cup because the first we're 104 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:31,160 Speaker 1: just in the beginning of round robin play, which I 105 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:33,719 Speaker 1: started last Thursday. There's some teams having even played yet 106 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: in their round robin format. So we'll get a team 107 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:39,279 Speaker 1: for Thurm to root for here based on some of 108 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:41,880 Speaker 1: his preferences with questions that I'll be able to ask him, 109 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,440 Speaker 1: and we'll dive into some analysis from our resident experts, 110 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,719 Speaker 1: I mean Colton Schmidt and read Ferguson. These guys are 111 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:52,919 Speaker 1: hardcore soccer fans. Now, Colton Schmidt maybe not as surprising 112 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:54,719 Speaker 1: because he was a punner. I know he played soccer 113 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: at least through middle school before he dedicated himself to 114 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:01,360 Speaker 1: football kind of kicking. Read Ferguson. I don't know where 115 00:06:01,400 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: that's coming from. Where the heck of long snapper is 116 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:08,520 Speaker 1: suddenly a soccer expert or gets into it, like from 117 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,320 Speaker 1: Louisiana no less, like you know, he's in the heart 118 00:06:11,360 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: of Bayou football country. Like, I don't know how that came, 119 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:18,440 Speaker 1: but maybe from hanging around kickers out and fishing. So 120 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:20,039 Speaker 1: we got to get to the bottom of that with 121 00:06:20,120 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: Reid also to see how this interest was spawn But 122 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: these guys follow the pro leagues over in Europe. They 123 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: do pools, they do everything. So they're they do like soccer, 124 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: fantasy soccer like, this is how over the top they are. 125 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:34,760 Speaker 1: I don't even do that. Yeah, So we'll get we'll 126 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: get them both on the phone. Should be a lot 127 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:38,120 Speaker 1: of fun when we're talking just a little bit of 128 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:39,880 Speaker 1: World Cup with them in the one o'clock hour. It 129 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,760 Speaker 1: won't be all the European style of football. We'll get 130 00:06:42,760 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: back to American football soon enough. And then in our 131 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:48,600 Speaker 1: two o'clock hour, Murph and Steve. Last week, we're kind 132 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 1: of making their way around the AFC East to kind 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,520 Speaker 1: of get an update what the Jets are doing, what's 134 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 1: going on with them, obviously a lot of quarterback stuff there, 135 00:06:55,720 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: and then down in Miami where they're trying to figure 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: out if the quarterback is going to be able to 137 00:06:59,839 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: come at and be productive for them in Tannehill coming 138 00:07:02,200 --> 00:07:04,839 Speaker 1: off that ACL so they covered the Jets and the 139 00:07:04,880 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 1: Dolphins last week. We're gonna put a bow on that 140 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,480 Speaker 1: as well. Here on Monday, we're gonna talk to ESPN 141 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 1: dot com Patriots insider Mike Reese, who's going to kind 142 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: of break down what's going on up in New England 143 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: with all the Brady am I retired when Am I retiring. 144 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:18,960 Speaker 1: I love my family and I don't want to miss 145 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: my kids activities. He's almost done. I'm telling you right now, 146 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: he's almost I'm going with the Marvel Levy line here. 147 00:07:25,280 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 1: He's thinking about retirement, retirement. I've seen him done more 148 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:32,400 Speaker 1: commercials now with his wife and everything, so too much 149 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:35,239 Speaker 1: has never been his focus. This focus has always been football. 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:38,080 Speaker 1: I know. Yeah, he's he's a house divided up in 151 00:07:38,120 --> 00:07:41,840 Speaker 1: that brain man. That Brazilian supermodels getting getting on him. 152 00:07:41,880 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: Too much avocado toast if you ask me. And then 153 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,520 Speaker 1: we also have a programming note that we're gonna mention 154 00:07:48,600 --> 00:07:50,560 Speaker 1: and we'll reference a couple of times throughout the show 155 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,640 Speaker 1: because I want Thurman's take on this. Also, the latest 156 00:07:54,880 --> 00:07:57,679 Speaker 1: edition Buffalo Bill's Entertainment has released. Is going to release 157 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: its latest top ten installment tonight here on MSG for 158 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:03,720 Speaker 1: our viewers and you know, for the people listening on 159 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: WGR just be alert to this tonight on MSG at 160 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:09,280 Speaker 1: eight o'clock is the latest top ten series, this one 161 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:13,119 Speaker 1: put together by producer Sam Lack. The top ten free 162 00:08:13,120 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 1: agents in Bill's history, and you kind of lived through 163 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 1: the genesis of that when the first true open market 164 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:26,000 Speaker 1: happened Plan B went out the door and it came 165 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 1: true free agency when you were still playing. So well, 166 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,280 Speaker 1: I want to get some opinions from you on some 167 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,679 Speaker 1: of the better names that kind of came through and 168 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:36,440 Speaker 1: really made an impact for this team in Bill's history. 169 00:08:36,480 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 1: So we'll talk about that a little and you're welcome 170 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,080 Speaker 1: to join us obviously on any and all of those 171 00:08:41,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: topics at eight oh three h five fifty or toll 172 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:47,199 Speaker 1: free one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 173 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: So get on the line and feel free to chime 174 00:08:49,720 --> 00:08:52,080 Speaker 1: in with whatever you have to offer us. And I'll 175 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,679 Speaker 1: tell you right now, I know a lot of people 176 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:57,000 Speaker 1: at least online tweet at me. Hey, it'd be nice 177 00:08:57,000 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: if we can get you on the radio more so 178 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 1: we can ask you more questions about the tea. As 179 00:09:00,720 --> 00:09:03,959 Speaker 1: Thurman and I wrap up Mini camp. This is an 180 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,360 Speaker 1: open forum. Fire off any Bills related question you want, 181 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: and I'll do my best to answer it for you. 182 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: Based on what I saw out on the practice field 183 00:09:11,559 --> 00:09:14,440 Speaker 1: for the better part of the last month, I didn't 184 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 1: see anything. Well that's what I just I just heard 185 00:09:17,080 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 1: interviews and that's all I need. Believe it or not. 186 00:09:19,760 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 1: That might be more that some people were exposed to, 187 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,120 Speaker 1: so you know, you'll you'll certainly be able to weigh 188 00:09:24,160 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 1: in on some of the things that we discussed, certainly. 189 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,960 Speaker 1: And the first thing that we want to talk about 190 00:09:29,040 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: right off the top is obviously our Twitter poll which 191 00:09:32,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: we put out there for fans about an hour before 192 00:09:34,080 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: the show debut here in the twelve o'clock hour, and 193 00:09:36,800 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 1: it deals with a big buzzword for the Bills over 194 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,880 Speaker 1: the past year that Sean McDermott brought in, and that 195 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: was culture. Now he's got his he's got his mantras, 196 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, respect the process and you know, do everything 197 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:51,480 Speaker 1: like a winner, playoff caliber, all of those things, but 198 00:09:51,880 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: culture was the thing that he was determined on embedding 199 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,400 Speaker 1: in this locker room. And and Thurman, I gotta tell you, 200 00:09:59,440 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: in a coun under year from last year at this 201 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,320 Speaker 1: time when he was trying to build the culture and 202 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 1: how they do things every day to this year, you 203 00:10:09,000 --> 00:10:12,920 Speaker 1: go out on that practice field, it was automatic. Everybody's 204 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 1: moving at the same speed, everybody's putting in the same effort. 205 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: From twenty to forty guys or spending an extra fifteen 206 00:10:20,320 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: minutes on the practice field after practice is over, guys 207 00:10:24,040 --> 00:10:27,440 Speaker 1: are going to locker room, taking their pads off, slapping 208 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: her sneakers on, going to the weight room immediately to 209 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 1: get their lift in. It's not like what should I do, 210 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: It's a known thing. Now. This is what I'm going 211 00:10:37,559 --> 00:10:41,520 Speaker 1: to do for this team. If we're gonna get back 212 00:10:41,520 --> 00:10:43,920 Speaker 1: to the playoffs, if we're gonna go further in the playoffs, 213 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,560 Speaker 1: if we're gonna be a winning team every time we 214 00:10:46,559 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 1: set foot on the field. So the Twitter poll today, 215 00:10:50,040 --> 00:10:54,199 Speaker 1: what was the biggest factor in the new team culture 216 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: taking hold in just one calendar year in our choices 217 00:11:00,160 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: is pretty obvious Coach McDermott, veteran leadership, making the playoffs, 218 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: or something else. And right now coach McDermott is running 219 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:10,200 Speaker 1: away with it at eighty seven percent. I know that 220 00:11:10,280 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: probably doesn't surprise you all, doesn't surprise me at all. 221 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,040 Speaker 1: And I think when you look at all this and 222 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,920 Speaker 1: when he first got here, I mean the press conference, 223 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:20,800 Speaker 1: I mean that's kind of first when we heard trust 224 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: the process, yeah, you know, and then you know, take 225 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: it a step further. You know, he had the veteran 226 00:11:26,080 --> 00:11:27,839 Speaker 1: guys like me and Jim and Andred. He had a 227 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,080 Speaker 1: meeting he wanted to take notes among dinner with you 228 00:11:31,840 --> 00:11:33,880 Speaker 1: with us guys, you know, and everybody kind of forget 229 00:11:33,920 --> 00:11:35,920 Speaker 1: about that. But yeah, it was that, and he was 230 00:11:35,960 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 1: taking notes the entire time. And we sat there for 231 00:11:39,000 --> 00:11:41,600 Speaker 1: about two and a half almost three hours with Coach McDermott, 232 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 1: and then the guys stayed a little bit later afterwards, 233 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 1: like we always do, but because the bills were they 234 00:11:47,559 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 1: were footing the bill. So that's right, right, But I 235 00:11:50,600 --> 00:11:52,840 Speaker 1: think from the time that this guy has gotten here, man, 236 00:11:52,880 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: he has done just that. And then you just said 237 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: it guys taken off their pass and going to lift 238 00:11:59,280 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: weights or whatever. It's none of It's none of that 239 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: babysitting stuff anymore. You know what you have to do 240 00:12:04,840 --> 00:12:07,720 Speaker 1: as a football player in order to be successful, and 241 00:12:07,760 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: he's brought that culture. I was just last week. I 242 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:12,680 Speaker 1: was over Kyle Williams house for his birthday. Yeah, and 243 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,640 Speaker 1: a bunch of guys came over to Kyle and you 244 00:12:15,640 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 1: can see Kyle. Kyle was like, I'm loving this. Yeah, 245 00:12:19,280 --> 00:12:21,760 Speaker 1: I met him and Lorenzo Allington. They were like, I'm 246 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:24,720 Speaker 1: loving this. I'm loving what we're doing there. I wish 247 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,079 Speaker 1: I was five years younger so I can stay here 248 00:12:27,080 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: a little bit longer. I mean, it was just that 249 00:12:30,920 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: great to see how guys were talking about what was 250 00:12:34,040 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: going on in practice. It was like these guys were like, 251 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:37,839 Speaker 1: you know, I can't wait for some more to get 252 00:12:37,880 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: to practice to see what's going on. And they're cut 253 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,240 Speaker 1: from the same cloth that McDermott is, you know, like 254 00:12:44,040 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: doing everything the right way every single day, complete dedication 255 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,080 Speaker 1: to craft, you know, doing the dirty work, doing the 256 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: stuff that you know, maybe on some days I really 257 00:12:53,440 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 1: don't feel like I'm I want to do it, but 258 00:12:55,120 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm gonna do it anyway, because that's what being a 259 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,080 Speaker 1: pro is about, and that's what those two guys are about. 260 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:02,040 Speaker 1: So they were the perfect locker room leaders, which I think, 261 00:13:02,840 --> 00:13:05,359 Speaker 1: you know, veteran leadership I don't think should be completely 262 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:09,359 Speaker 1: dismissed because, you know, right off the bat, coach McDermott, 263 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 1: after talking and having dinner with you guys, he set 264 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 1: up like a veteran player kind of counsel with the 265 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,680 Speaker 1: veterans on the roster last year and would periodically meet 266 00:13:19,720 --> 00:13:22,520 Speaker 1: with them, not only during this period in the offseason, 267 00:13:22,559 --> 00:13:24,319 Speaker 1: like you know, how are things going, how are guys 268 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,079 Speaker 1: taking the the regiment in the locker room. He was 269 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,280 Speaker 1: doing that all through the regular season. And I was 270 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:31,320 Speaker 1: talking to Pat to Marco last week and he told 271 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: me what really helped us down the stretch and after 272 00:13:36,559 --> 00:13:41,520 Speaker 1: that three game losing streak was him listening to us. 273 00:13:41,559 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 1: Because we came out of that three game losing streak, 274 00:13:43,400 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 1: it's week eleven, twelve thirteen, and you know, we got 275 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: that win at Kansas City, and that certainly helped him 276 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: the tide calm everybody down. He said, But we get 277 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 1: to week fourteen, and you know, our legs are starting 278 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:58,520 Speaker 1: to get heavy or healing it. And we suggested to coach, 279 00:13:59,240 --> 00:14:02,600 Speaker 1: why don't we back off the reps and time on 280 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: the practice field and exchange that for more mental reps 281 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 1: and time in the classrooms with film. Right, they said, 282 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 1: I think it would really benefit us. You know, some 283 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: of us are dragging, were really you know, some of 284 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:16,559 Speaker 1: the rookies are getting a little heavy legs. They're not 285 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:19,440 Speaker 1: used to it going this long. And he listened to them. 286 00:14:19,720 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: He backed off the practice time. He cut it short, 287 00:14:22,040 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen minutes. I mean, you know, you cut 288 00:14:25,320 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes short practice every day Wednesday Thursday. It makes 289 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:31,920 Speaker 1: a difference on Sunday when your legs right, maybe a 290 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:33,640 Speaker 1: little more spring in your step in week fift. It 291 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 1: makes a difference. And like you said, you know these 292 00:14:35,440 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 1: college players they're not used to that. Yeah, they're not 293 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,600 Speaker 1: used to that. And for him to have that leadership 294 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:44,320 Speaker 1: role to get these veteran guys into that, into that mode, 295 00:14:44,320 --> 00:14:46,960 Speaker 1: and really, you know that right there tells me that, 296 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,280 Speaker 1: you know, it's an open door policy for this guy. 297 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: He wants to hear the good but he also wants 298 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: to hear the bad too, what these players are doing 299 00:14:54,720 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: and what they shouldn't do and what they should be doing. 300 00:14:57,320 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: And I think he's done a tremendous job with working 301 00:15:01,040 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 1: with what he's had. And this is a building process. Yeah, 302 00:15:05,320 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: this isn't over. I mean you look at the moves 303 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 1: that they made the first year and now they're going 304 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: into the second year. Man year three and four should 305 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: be outstanding. Should be outstanding, not only because of you know, 306 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 1: the draft capital they built up this year and utilized 307 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: and the talent they got essentially two first round picks 308 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:28,480 Speaker 1: and a third round pick that's looking awfully good out 309 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: there on the practice field. We have the pads on 310 00:15:30,400 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 1: yet and Harrison Phillips. But then you think about they've 311 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,560 Speaker 1: got a couple extra picks next year that they didn't 312 00:15:36,560 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 1: have to part with. Um, they have a very what 313 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: will be a very healthy cap situation next year. They're 314 00:15:43,560 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: still trying to get out of still trying to get 315 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,280 Speaker 1: a little bit out of cap jail this year, which 316 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:49,080 Speaker 1: is why I think they weren't as active in the 317 00:15:49,080 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: free agent market as maybe some fans would want them 318 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,080 Speaker 1: to be. But it's because they're still biting a lot 319 00:15:55,080 --> 00:15:58,520 Speaker 1: of guys. Yeah, So next year, more draft capital to 320 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: work with healthy situation to maybe plug some holes in 321 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 1: free agency, and you know, your quarterback situation hopefully is 322 00:16:06,240 --> 00:16:08,960 Speaker 1: figured out. So you go right into the next season 323 00:16:09,000 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: already knowing what your pecking order is because you got it. 324 00:16:12,400 --> 00:16:15,480 Speaker 1: I was talking about this with Murph and Steve last week. 325 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: You know, people are the number one question fans Haven. 326 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:21,600 Speaker 1: I'm sure you've heard it. How's allan looking? Who's gonna 327 00:16:21,600 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: be the quarterback? You know, that's what you hear when 328 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:28,360 Speaker 1: people approach you. But they're putting an offense in. There's 329 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:31,800 Speaker 1: a new offense going in, and so to have that 330 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:35,560 Speaker 1: and then also we got to evaluate three quarterbacks at 331 00:16:35,560 --> 00:16:38,200 Speaker 1: the same while you're trying to get an offense ready 332 00:16:38,200 --> 00:16:40,720 Speaker 1: to play in Week one. I mean that's a heavy 333 00:16:40,760 --> 00:16:44,840 Speaker 1: lift and a juggling act. And so I know, by 334 00:16:44,840 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: the way, it's a new coordinator that's being asked to 335 00:16:46,640 --> 00:16:49,240 Speaker 1: do all this who isn't used to maybe working with 336 00:16:49,360 --> 00:16:53,080 Speaker 1: everybody on his offensive staff. I mean, he's he's spoken 337 00:16:53,200 --> 00:16:56,360 Speaker 1: very positively about how the blend has gone with him 338 00:16:56,400 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 1: and his offensive staff, but he's teaching it to them 339 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:01,560 Speaker 1: in January February. Now he's teaching it to all the 340 00:17:01,600 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 1: players and with their help, And I just think that's 341 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 1: a lot to navigate before you even get to the 342 00:17:08,880 --> 00:17:11,719 Speaker 1: quarterback competition. So you know what you're saying with this 343 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:15,200 Speaker 1: being a long build, I agree one hundred percent. Based 344 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: on the moves they made this offseason, it's going to 345 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:22,080 Speaker 1: take some time before some of these changes gain traction 346 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:26,400 Speaker 1: number one and then number two show results in terms 347 00:17:26,440 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: of the win loss. Colum, don't you think, oh exactly, 348 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,240 Speaker 1: And think about this with Dab, he'd told me to 349 00:17:31,280 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 1: call him Dabs, So I mean, okay, that's what I 350 00:17:33,560 --> 00:17:36,560 Speaker 1: call him, Dabs, all right? So he has to teach 351 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: teach this to the coaches. Yeah, I mean that's another 352 00:17:40,359 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: thing that you have to worry about two is that 353 00:17:42,440 --> 00:17:44,560 Speaker 1: he has to teach this offense to the coaches and 354 00:17:44,600 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: the coaches have to implement it to the players. So 355 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: I mean he's actually doing double work for the coaches 356 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: and the players, and so um yeah, it's gonna be 357 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,440 Speaker 1: a long process. But you know what, but I think 358 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,720 Speaker 1: it all goes back to coach McDermot bringing in the 359 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 1: right guys, bringing in the right coaches, bringing in the 360 00:18:02,280 --> 00:18:06,159 Speaker 1: right players to where it's not just you're sitting in 361 00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:09,119 Speaker 1: a meeting trying to just get all this knowledge in 362 00:18:09,160 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 1: at one single time. They're taking it at a really 363 00:18:11,960 --> 00:18:15,520 Speaker 1: good pace right now, in which they hopefully comes training camp. 364 00:18:15,600 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: You still have that time to build on and hopefully 365 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 1: when training camp comes along. You know, sure there's gonna 366 00:18:20,920 --> 00:18:23,800 Speaker 1: be some problems with the offense because the defense is 367 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: always head of the offense no matter what. Second year too, 368 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: and during their second year or two, so the defense 369 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:32,400 Speaker 1: is probably gonna just you know, be lights out come 370 00:18:32,480 --> 00:18:34,480 Speaker 1: first week or training camp, and you have an offense 371 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,679 Speaker 1: that's really trying to collect themselves and trying to be 372 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,800 Speaker 1: a productive offense as much as you possibly can. Almost 373 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: every single play now, every player is not gonna go great, 374 00:18:43,320 --> 00:18:45,800 Speaker 1: but they're gonna be some chances for these guys. Now, 375 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: I haven't seen any of these guys yet. I mean 376 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:50,639 Speaker 1: I didn't go over to the OTAs or mini camps 377 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: or anything. So I'm kind of looking forward to the 378 00:18:52,800 --> 00:18:55,400 Speaker 1: training camp when it gets here. Yeah, eight oh three, 379 00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: five fifty one fifty two, five fifty to join us 380 00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,920 Speaker 1: talk about why this culture took hold so quickly here 381 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,399 Speaker 1: in Buffalo with the Bills. Sean McDermott comes in the 382 00:19:07,400 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 1: door last year, tries to set a culture, an expectation 383 00:19:11,880 --> 00:19:14,600 Speaker 1: of how you carry yourself every day, uses that playoff 384 00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:19,320 Speaker 1: caliber mantra. They actually get to the playoffs, and you know, now, 385 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: as I was saying, it just seems like it's an 386 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: automatic thing that is happening in Buffalo's locker room. Is 387 00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: it because only of McDermott or is it because of 388 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: veteran leadership to making the playoffs help reinforce what the 389 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,280 Speaker 1: culture should be here? I mean winning. They always say 390 00:19:36,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: winning cures everything, So maybe is making the playoffs a 391 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:44,160 Speaker 1: legitimate factor to consider as the primary reason the actual 392 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: end result? Did that embed this culture into this Buffalo 393 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 1: locker room where bang, it's done, It's automatic because I'll 394 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:55,040 Speaker 1: tell you right now, therem you think about all the 395 00:19:55,040 --> 00:19:59,040 Speaker 1: different head coaches that came through the door here in 396 00:19:59,080 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: the last eighteen years, there's a lot of them. You know, 397 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:09,159 Speaker 1: you're talking Greg Williams, Mike Mullarkey, Dick Geron, Chan Gailey. 398 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 1: You know, you run down the list, Rex, Ryan, Doug Marone. 399 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: All of these guys come in, and I would say 400 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: at least seven out of eight from said we're going 401 00:20:18,640 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 1: to change the colture here, and none of them we're 402 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:26,360 Speaker 1: able to effectively do that. Now, there is obviously extenuating 403 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 1: circumstances as to why some of those coaches couldn't make 404 00:20:29,800 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: it happen. And I would argue that the guy that 405 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: I felt, at least because I've seen all of these 406 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 1: coaches up close covering this team over that span, I 407 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: would say the guy that I felt came the closest 408 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:45,520 Speaker 1: to changing the culture here was chan Gailey. Because you 409 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 1: come to you know, they're four and twelve that first year. 410 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 1: Second year, they start like gangbusters, three and one. They 411 00:20:51,920 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 1: beat the Patriots in that Week three game here on 412 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:56,680 Speaker 1: the last second field goal by Lindel. They're five and two, 413 00:20:56,960 --> 00:21:00,399 Speaker 1: five and two coming into Week eight, and then they 414 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: lose a game there and they lose nine of their 415 00:21:04,920 --> 00:21:09,800 Speaker 1: last ten games, and that's where he lost it, and 416 00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 1: it was no getting it back. So that's why this 417 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: past year, I don't know how you felt, but having 418 00:21:16,760 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 1: experienced all of these attempts and then subsequent failures after, 419 00:21:22,200 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: you know, the season went off the rails, keeping the 420 00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: culture intact becomes harder than ever when you're trying to 421 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: establish one. So here's coach McDermott. Losing streak starts. They 422 00:21:33,320 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: get run out of the stadium by the Saints forty 423 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:39,320 Speaker 1: seven to ten. You know, they get crushed by the 424 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:42,280 Speaker 1: Jets thirty four twenty one. They ran for a country 425 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,879 Speaker 1: mile on him, and then they go out to the 426 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:48,800 Speaker 1: Chargers with Peterman a quarterback, and we know how that ends. 427 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,639 Speaker 1: Three game losing streak. You know how many people were saying, 428 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:56,439 Speaker 1: here we go again. Yeah, I gotta say I didn't 429 00:21:56,480 --> 00:22:00,320 Speaker 1: say that, but in my head, I'm thinking they gonna 430 00:22:00,320 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 1: be able to, you know, lass so this season and 431 00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:05,680 Speaker 1: save it and pull it out of the fire, because 432 00:22:06,200 --> 00:22:09,159 Speaker 1: that's where it was. I mean, the camp fire was 433 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,720 Speaker 1: roaring and the bills were falling into the thing, and 434 00:22:11,920 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: somebody had to throw a lasso around him and pull 435 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: them out. And I didn't know if it was gonna 436 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:19,399 Speaker 1: happen just based on past history alone. How many times 437 00:22:19,400 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: have we seen it season goes the wrong way, they 438 00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:23,800 Speaker 1: can't pull it back. Yeah, And I think it was 439 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 1: you know, it was hard. I mean for you guys too, 440 00:22:26,440 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 1: as as far as the media guys, I mean, because 441 00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:31,480 Speaker 1: you were probably wanting to say, like you just said, 442 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: here we go again. Yeah, a lot of guys were 443 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: probably saying that. Now as a former player, you know, 444 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I'm thinking to myself, man, we have to do something 445 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,040 Speaker 1: to pull ourselves out of this. You know, that's my mindset. 446 00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: And I'm sure the fans were probably thinking the same way. 447 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: You guys were too, here we go again. But you 448 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,480 Speaker 1: know when you talk to McDermot and you talked to 449 00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Being and those guys, you know, those guys have 450 00:22:52,800 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 1: a plan and and and those And sure it was 451 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:57,359 Speaker 1: a tough time there in that three game losing str 452 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 1: I mean, it was it was like who is this team? Yeah, 453 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,879 Speaker 1: they didn't even look like the same team. It didn't 454 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: look like the same team for the three weeks. And 455 00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: but you know, we we've seen stranger things happen, right, 456 00:23:09,359 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: and they turned it around, and obviously it goes down 457 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,639 Speaker 1: to the last game of the season Cincinnati and Baltimore, 458 00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:18,679 Speaker 1: right and no. Luck just happened to be on our side. 459 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: And the thing that at least I've heard from the 460 00:23:21,359 --> 00:23:24,400 Speaker 1: players and how they were able to pull themselves out 461 00:23:24,440 --> 00:23:28,640 Speaker 1: of that three game losing streak was they all say it. 462 00:23:29,359 --> 00:23:33,480 Speaker 1: And when I asked him, coach McDermott stepped up and 463 00:23:33,640 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 1: owned owned the Peterman decision. Owned it. Just went up 464 00:23:38,200 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: there and said, look, I'm always gonna do what I 465 00:23:40,600 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: think is best for the team. This is what I 466 00:23:42,280 --> 00:23:44,159 Speaker 1: thought was best for the team. This was the decision 467 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 1: I made. Obviously it didn't work out. Tyrod's our starter 468 00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:50,439 Speaker 1: the rest of the season, bang, end of story, were 469 00:23:50,480 --> 00:23:56,920 Speaker 1: moving forward, and I think because the coach showed the players, 470 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 1: hey man, I'm not perfect either. I'm right, Humana, I'm 471 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: gonna do what in my head I think it's best 472 00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: for the team. But I may slip up every now 473 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 1: and then, and this one's on me. How How far 474 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,920 Speaker 1: does that go with the locker room? A long way, 475 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:14,440 Speaker 1: long way, Because you know, I mean, obviously a coach 476 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: every decision that he makes, he thinks he's going to 477 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: be the right decision. And for him to come out 478 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: in front of the entire team and say, hey, guys, 479 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,879 Speaker 1: that's on me. It didn't have to explain that to 480 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:31,160 Speaker 1: you guys too, and the fans, that's on me. That 481 00:24:31,200 --> 00:24:33,560 Speaker 1: goes a long way with the players, like, you know what, 482 00:24:34,080 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: this guy has our back, this guy hairs our back. 483 00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:39,679 Speaker 1: He owned up to a mistake that he made in 484 00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:42,639 Speaker 1: the at the end of the year, and now you 485 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,840 Speaker 1: know what, it's our job as players to go out 486 00:24:45,880 --> 00:24:49,600 Speaker 1: now and try to erase all of that. Yeah, And 487 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,680 Speaker 1: I think those players did. And they go to Kansas City, 488 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,200 Speaker 1: to Kansas City the next week, and Kansas City was 489 00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: playing well. He was playing well, and I was they 490 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,679 Speaker 1: needed that win too, Kansas City and to go now, 491 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,240 Speaker 1: which is a difficult place to win, I mean from 492 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: the atmosphere, and you know, Alex Smith and all those 493 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:08,480 Speaker 1: guys went down there win and you don't think coming 494 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:12,920 Speaker 1: back on that airplane, that was something that really latch 495 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:16,199 Speaker 1: onto is like, hey, guys, there we go, because they 496 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,160 Speaker 1: would have been if they would have lost that game. 497 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,480 Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know what would have happened, 498 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: but I'm glad that we're not talking about that they 499 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,119 Speaker 1: lost that game, But that's why I was. I was like, 500 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,880 Speaker 1: there's almost like it's like anxiety, like is this gonna 501 00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:33,720 Speaker 1: happen again? I can't believe it, like because everything was 502 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:36,879 Speaker 1: going so well for so long. I mean, it was 503 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:40,840 Speaker 1: fits and starts first year, all of that stuff. But yeah, 504 00:25:40,880 --> 00:25:44,159 Speaker 1: they got that win there sixteen ten, and then it 505 00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,240 Speaker 1: seemed like things got back on track. By no means 506 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,200 Speaker 1: was it perfect last year. I mean, let's face it, 507 00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:52,800 Speaker 1: this team finished thirty first in passing, which is why 508 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: you know, they kind of turned the page and quarterback 509 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: among other things. But the fact that they were thirty 510 00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: first in passing and still finished with a playoff birth 511 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 1: is pretty remarkable. So, you know, I think the team 512 00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:09,880 Speaker 1: culture was a big reason why this team persevered though 513 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: they were mentally tough. Yea, and I think you know, 514 00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:16,679 Speaker 1: with the Twitter poll and everything that we've got, you know, 515 00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,640 Speaker 1: is it McDermott, is it veteran leadership, is it making 516 00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,560 Speaker 1: the playoffs? I think all of those things are intertwined 517 00:26:22,840 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 1: to a certain extent. I think making the playoffs is 518 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:35,080 Speaker 1: more of a reinforcement of the culture, a validation of 519 00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:40,399 Speaker 1: why coach McDermott wants things done a certain way every 520 00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: single day, whether it's preseason, week one, week fourteen, postseason. 521 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:48,800 Speaker 1: This is how you approach your business because this can 522 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: be the result if you do it that way. I mean, 523 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,800 Speaker 1: you make the playoffs. I don't know if there's a 524 00:26:52,840 --> 00:26:56,920 Speaker 1: greater stamp of approval or reinforcement that you can get 525 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:00,159 Speaker 1: them that in your first year after seventeen years of 526 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: all the other coaches, coach not doing it and pretty 527 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,400 Speaker 1: much kind of repeating the same thing that he repeated 528 00:27:05,440 --> 00:27:07,520 Speaker 1: when he first got here, and you know what, you know, 529 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take it a step further. Two. Not only 530 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:15,399 Speaker 1: was the culture changed in the locker room, and you've 531 00:27:15,440 --> 00:27:19,720 Speaker 1: seen this and you firsthand, the culture was changed to 532 00:27:20,000 --> 00:27:24,760 Speaker 1: also in the organization too. In the organization, there were 533 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: a lot of people that were here for a long 534 00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:30,400 Speaker 1: period of time and they're not here anymore. I mean, 535 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 1: so the culture change was not only just in the 536 00:27:32,960 --> 00:27:36,560 Speaker 1: locker room. It was a course around the entire organization. Now, 537 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: I think Brandon Bean probably had a lot to do 538 00:27:38,800 --> 00:27:41,239 Speaker 1: with that too, bringing in different scouts and all that. 539 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,720 Speaker 1: But it was a cult to change from top to bottom. Yeah, 540 00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: people were people were on notice. Yeah, mistake. And I 541 00:27:50,280 --> 00:27:53,880 Speaker 1: think that coach McDermott verbalized that also in a lot 542 00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: of those initial press conferences too, because he was saying, look, 543 00:27:57,560 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 1: when I'm saying team, I'm not just talking about the 544 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 1: players that suit up every Sunday in the locker room. 545 00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: He goes, I'm talking about the people upstairs that are 546 00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 1: providing nutrition for those players. I'm talking about our scouting 547 00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 1: department strength and condition. Though I'm talking. I mean, he 548 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: went up and down the list. I was like, all right, 549 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: I think he got everybody. I don't know if anybody's left. 550 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: But the point he was making was this is an 551 00:28:18,400 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: organizational effort. It's not just the players on the field effort. Yes, 552 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: they are responsible for the wins and losses every week, 553 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,360 Speaker 1: but everybody else in the building can aid in that 554 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,880 Speaker 1: effort by doing their jobs from you know, a supportive role, 555 00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,200 Speaker 1: you know. I mean it sounds silly, but you know, 556 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 1: the guys in the ticket office if they're handling all 557 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,000 Speaker 1: the players stuff so they don't have to worry about 558 00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:43,840 Speaker 1: that stuff, or their wife doesn't have to worry about 559 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:45,920 Speaker 1: ticket requests and this and that, and they get that 560 00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:47,520 Speaker 1: all ironed out for him, that's one less thing. The 561 00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:49,400 Speaker 1: players got to worry about him, but he can focus 562 00:28:49,440 --> 00:28:52,880 Speaker 1: on his work for Sunday all the better. So I 563 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,000 Speaker 1: think that's what coach McDermott was getting at, and he 564 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600 Speaker 1: wanted everybody to be kind of rolling the boat the 565 00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: same way every single day. And I think people, I 566 00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: would say, in large part, probably top to bottom, you know, 567 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:07,440 Speaker 1: adhered to that. I think they adhered to that one 568 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:11,080 Speaker 1: hundred percent. So because look, everybody in the building wants 569 00:29:11,120 --> 00:29:15,120 Speaker 1: to win too, right, job easier too. Yeah, it's been 570 00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,160 Speaker 1: a while. I don't want to write about any more losses. 571 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 1: That's right. It's about some wins, darn it. Come on, 572 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,560 Speaker 1: So eight oh three oh five fifty if you want 573 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,520 Speaker 1: to join us, talk about the culture, maybe the job 574 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,400 Speaker 1: McDermott's done, in your opinion, veteran leadership and the role 575 00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,960 Speaker 1: that plays in how this culture has completely taken hold, 576 00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:34,480 Speaker 1: because I'm telling you, folks, it is automatic. Out on 577 00:29:34,520 --> 00:29:36,600 Speaker 1: the practice field. You will see it a training camp. 578 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 1: The way they move from station to station. It is 579 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,040 Speaker 1: I don't want to say it's it's like military, but 580 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:48,600 Speaker 1: it is regimented, it is structured, and it is efficient. 581 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 1: It's why in a large part, they finished practice ten 582 00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:54,239 Speaker 1: to fifteen minutes early every day, right, But even though 583 00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 1: they finished those ten to fifteen minutes early, a lot 584 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 1: of those young guys are staying on the field. Hey, coach, 585 00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:00,760 Speaker 1: can I get a few extra reps with pass sets? 586 00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: You know, can I do this or that? And you know, 587 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 1: Coach Testiers out there with the lineman and they're running 588 00:30:04,840 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: through a couple of extra things and they take it 589 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: right up to the bell in terms of the limit 590 00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: of time they can be on the field with the coaches. 591 00:30:11,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: And then sometimes they'll stay after by themselves, you know, 592 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,000 Speaker 1: Jerry Hughes running the pass rush, hoop ring, getting a 593 00:30:17,040 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: few extra edge rushes, you know, ducking the shoulder, getting 594 00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: in there. Uh. You know, it's just it's permeated the 595 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: locker room. And I just think it's great to see 596 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 1: because if you're if you're cut from that cloth, or 597 00:30:28,600 --> 00:30:30,600 Speaker 1: you were ever an athlete, you know that was brought 598 00:30:30,680 --> 00:30:33,760 Speaker 1: up on doing everything to the best of your ability 599 00:30:33,840 --> 00:30:37,400 Speaker 1: every time, no matter who's watching. This is a team 600 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,920 Speaker 1: that you can appreciate. Yeah, I think so, and I 601 00:30:39,960 --> 00:30:41,680 Speaker 1: think you can't. And one of the things that I 602 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: always talked to the guys when I was over with 603 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:49,160 Speaker 1: Kyle Williams for his birthday, but telling the guys is like, guys, yeah, 604 00:30:49,160 --> 00:30:51,640 Speaker 1: I know you guys made the playoff last year or whatever, 605 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:54,480 Speaker 1: but try to get a home game here for the 606 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,800 Speaker 1: playoff game. Yeah. I took it a little step further, like, Okay, 607 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:00,880 Speaker 1: in order to do that, Malone, you gotta win it. 608 00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: You gotta win a division, right, That's a good nuge. 609 00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: That's a good nugge. I was like, that's what you 610 00:31:05,040 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: have to do as a football player, and they were 611 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: kind of like, oh, yeah, we don't know what it's like, 612 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 1: but I can tell you right now it'll be one 613 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: of the best experiences that you'll ever have here in Buffalo. 614 00:31:15,200 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: Eight oh three, five fifty one, eight eight five fifty two, 615 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,560 Speaker 1: five fifty to join Thurman and I here as we 616 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,800 Speaker 1: talk Bill's culture and why it is embedded now in 617 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,960 Speaker 1: the locker room after just one calendar year under head 618 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:30,280 Speaker 1: coach Sean McDermott. That and plenty more. We got World 619 00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:32,760 Speaker 1: Cup coming up at one o'clock with Colton Schmidt and 620 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:35,600 Speaker 1: Reid Ferguson. That's gonna be an interesting conversation too, but 621 00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640 Speaker 1: we step aside momentarily. This is One Bills Live from 622 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:51,840 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back here on 623 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,360 Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive, Chris Brown, along 624 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,920 Speaker 1: with Thurman Thomas filling in for Murph and Steve Steve 625 00:31:57,080 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 1: on Veak. This week, Murf is on the one up 626 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:03,760 Speaker 1: She got Me he could. I'm telling you, it's a 627 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,520 Speaker 1: running joke with Murf now like ever since the Steve 628 00:32:07,560 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: took the job, I think he's had just as many 629 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:13,480 Speaker 1: vacation days his actual working days. And uh, it's it's 630 00:32:13,560 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: it's taken on a life of its own on Twitter, 631 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: because I was in for Steve last Thursday and I 632 00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 1: want to say, and somebody tweeted at me, no offense 633 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 1: to Chris Brown, but where can I get Steve's job? 634 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:32,680 Speaker 1: Because he goes. Ever since he joined the show, he's 635 00:32:32,680 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 1: been on vacation. He goes, I gotta get that gig. 636 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,000 Speaker 1: That was one of the reason why I didn't want 637 00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,800 Speaker 1: to take the job. Yeah, well, yeah, I wouldn't be 638 00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:42,320 Speaker 1: a little here. I wasn't gonna be here at all. 639 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: I'm telling you right now. Yeah. Well, yeah, you guys 640 00:32:47,680 --> 00:32:50,680 Speaker 1: kind of travel in the same circles, so we may 641 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:52,600 Speaker 1: not have to look very far when we're wondering where 642 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,960 Speaker 1: the heck Steve is when he's not in here for work. Yeah, 643 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:56,520 Speaker 1: I don't know if he had a family vacation or 644 00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:58,680 Speaker 1: what he was doing was a family vacation. I'm starting 645 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 1: to look at im, starting to remember, because we got 646 00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,320 Speaker 1: like a chat that's been going for like three years. 647 00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:06,160 Speaker 1: Yeah now, and I think he said he might be going. 648 00:33:06,520 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: I can't remember. So he's probably out of town, but 649 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,640 Speaker 1: he's he's out of a country. Oh yeah, so yeah, 650 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: good luck getting holding exactly. Yeah, I know, I wouldn't 651 00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:17,760 Speaker 1: bet Steve has the international plan on his phone. Eight 652 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:20,640 Speaker 1: oh three five fifty one eight eight eight five fifty 653 00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: two five fifty. What's the biggest factor in the new 654 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 1: team culture taking hold in just a year. I think 655 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,360 Speaker 1: a lot of people just hearing coach McDermott the first time, 656 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 1: were of the opinion that sounds like we got the 657 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,400 Speaker 1: right guy here that's going to make this happen. But 658 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: until it actually does, and sometimes it takes longer than 659 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: a year it might take because you know the history 660 00:33:41,000 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: of first year coaches in this league making the playoffs 661 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,520 Speaker 1: is a rarity for a first year head coach. I mean, 662 00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: it happened sometimes if they inherit a really good team 663 00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: George Seaford with the forty nine ers and right after 664 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 1: Walsh retired. Yeah, Mike Tomlin in Pittsburgh. You know, you 665 00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:00,040 Speaker 1: inherit a storied program that's been perennially successful. Okay, the 666 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:02,280 Speaker 1: odds are better for guys like that, but you know, 667 00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,560 Speaker 1: you become the new head coach up in Detroit, you 668 00:34:04,600 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: know the way things have gone up there for the 669 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:11,240 Speaker 1: last couple of decades. You know, Chicago they've had trouble since, 670 00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,640 Speaker 1: you know, making a Super Bowl and oh five. So 671 00:34:14,040 --> 00:34:16,359 Speaker 1: you know, there's different franchises where you come in as 672 00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:18,800 Speaker 1: the new head coach. I mean it's hard to flip 673 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 1: it around in a year. Yeah, so the Bills make 674 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:24,319 Speaker 1: the playoffs last year, But more importantly just how the 675 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:28,840 Speaker 1: culture got embedded. It's the speed at which had happened 676 00:34:28,880 --> 00:34:32,040 Speaker 1: for me, Therm and that gets me. I was confident, 677 00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:34,400 Speaker 1: you know, after being around coach McDermott for about a 678 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:37,680 Speaker 1: month or two, this guy's gonna get this thing turned 679 00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:40,840 Speaker 1: in the right direction. But I don't know if I 680 00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 1: if someone asked me to put a timetable on it, 681 00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 1: I don't know that I would have said one calendar year, 682 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,000 Speaker 1: it's good to go. The culture part is set now, 683 00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:51,320 Speaker 1: they just got to match the results with the culture. 684 00:34:51,960 --> 00:34:53,680 Speaker 1: I don't think I would have guessed one year. I 685 00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,719 Speaker 1: might have said two, maybe longer. Right where do you 686 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,680 Speaker 1: where would you have come down on that? If somebody 687 00:34:59,680 --> 00:35:01,399 Speaker 1: told me, I think, I think I'm right there where 688 00:35:01,440 --> 00:35:04,239 Speaker 1: you just said, maybe one year or two at least 689 00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:07,840 Speaker 1: looking at two years because he wants to get the 690 00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,759 Speaker 1: type of players that he wanted on this football team. Yeah, 691 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:15,320 Speaker 1: and personnel changes. Personnel change, they take time too, So yeah, 692 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,399 Speaker 1: you know I was looking. You know, I was very 693 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: excited when I first got a chance to meet coach 694 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:22,160 Speaker 1: McDermott and when we all had that dinner with Jim 695 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: and Bruce and all the guys, and you know, I 696 00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,319 Speaker 1: was just looking for him to be like, you know what, 697 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,400 Speaker 1: let's just see if he could just get through this 698 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:32,160 Speaker 1: first year. I don't care what the record may be, 699 00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,520 Speaker 1: but just do a lot of things that are going 700 00:35:34,560 --> 00:35:37,279 Speaker 1: to be positive for this football team. And I think 701 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:40,200 Speaker 1: he did that. And so when you have that type 702 00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:44,439 Speaker 1: of leadership and him coming over here, man, it's I've 703 00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:47,120 Speaker 1: been loving every since that meeting that we hit that 704 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:49,719 Speaker 1: dinner that we had. I followed his step. I mean, 705 00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:52,040 Speaker 1: if there was a time where I was doing interviews 706 00:35:52,680 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 1: and trust the process was coming out of my mouth 707 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 Speaker 1: every single in the interview that I was doing, you know. 708 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,960 Speaker 1: And then so I started seeing coach McDermott before the 709 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 1: game and I started telling him, Hey, trust the process, man, 710 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,400 Speaker 1: you know it just I just kept going with it, 711 00:36:05,480 --> 00:36:08,640 Speaker 1: you know. And and so yeah, that's been really really 712 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 1: great to see, you know, from the players, and you 713 00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,239 Speaker 1: think about what happened, and I just kind of want 714 00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 1: to talk about like the football team in general. They 715 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: got a brand new secondary that played tremendously. Yeah, all 716 00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:27,359 Speaker 1: four guys, all four guys were new guys. And now 717 00:36:27,400 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: you have another new guy, David, who's coming in. It's 718 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,520 Speaker 1: going to be a part of that. But uh, you 719 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:35,879 Speaker 1: know what, it was just great to see. Like I said, 720 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: I thought maybe a year two you might see a 721 00:36:38,520 --> 00:36:45,359 Speaker 1: change um of building and going forward, playing the way 722 00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: they're supposed to every single week. But now you look 723 00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,759 Speaker 1: at it, you look at the schedule. Now, it's a 724 00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: tough schedule. The first seven games. Yeah, thanks a lot 725 00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:59,120 Speaker 1: of NFL for that one seven on the road. Five 726 00:36:59,239 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 1: of the first seven on the road. But I tell 727 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:04,640 Speaker 1: you what, what I'm really looking forward to is, you know, 728 00:37:04,960 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: obviously looking forward to training camp, preseason or whatever, but 729 00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:11,759 Speaker 1: getting that final fifty three man roster and going to Baltimore. 730 00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:16,080 Speaker 1: That right there, that game right there will be a 731 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: telling story of I wouldn't say of how the season 732 00:37:19,160 --> 00:37:22,720 Speaker 1: is going to go, but how they play in that game. 733 00:37:23,880 --> 00:37:27,880 Speaker 1: Coming back here September sixteenth, the following week against the Charges, 734 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,880 Speaker 1: Anthony Lynn, you know that's going to be talked about 735 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:35,000 Speaker 1: throughout the media or whatever. But that first game against 736 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: Baltimore will really tell the season. I think it may 737 00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: just set the tone for the rest of the year. 738 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:43,239 Speaker 1: And there's a lot of interesting parallels with that game 739 00:37:43,320 --> 00:37:47,480 Speaker 1: being in Week one because just three years ago, twenty fifteen, 740 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,440 Speaker 1: the opener was at Baltimore and they were coming off 741 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:54,240 Speaker 1: a three man quarterback competition. Tyrod gets named the starter. 742 00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: He's going to play his former team, So that a 743 00:37:56,080 --> 00:38:00,520 Speaker 1: whole nother storyline. But that game was a tough row 744 00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:06,360 Speaker 1: to hoe Ye offensively, first year coach with Rex Ryan, 745 00:38:06,719 --> 00:38:12,480 Speaker 1: offensive coordinator, you know, Greg Roman, and they were spinning 746 00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:17,200 Speaker 1: their wheels all day that day. You certainly hope it's 747 00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:20,359 Speaker 1: a better fate this time around with Brian Dable and 748 00:38:20,400 --> 00:38:24,120 Speaker 1: whoever the starting quarterback is Week one in Baltimore, and 749 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:26,560 Speaker 1: you know they can get that win and kind of say, 750 00:38:26,760 --> 00:38:29,400 Speaker 1: you know what, we're gonna be. Okay, we're gonna be 751 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,879 Speaker 1: in dog fights every week every week. We may never 752 00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,440 Speaker 1: win comfortably. You know, might be some field goal games 753 00:38:35,640 --> 00:38:37,719 Speaker 1: kind of things where people are biting their nails, but 754 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:41,319 Speaker 1: we're gonna be scrapping, you know, tooth and nail all 755 00:38:41,400 --> 00:38:43,560 Speaker 1: sixty minutes. That's what you're gonna get out of this team. 756 00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:47,040 Speaker 1: At least. The good thing about that is that second 757 00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:51,319 Speaker 1: year defensive guys, Yeah, second year defensive guy. That's so 758 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,480 Speaker 1: that's a problem there that you probably won't have to 759 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,520 Speaker 1: worry about as much because Lestar Fraser's back at the 760 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:59,439 Speaker 1: defensive cord and pretty much everybody that was here last 761 00:38:59,480 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 1: year or back this year, right, And so that's that's 762 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:04,680 Speaker 1: one of the thing that you don't have to really 763 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:11,240 Speaker 1: worry about it unless you know, Flaco or Lamar Jackson 764 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: or whoever comes out and just have a fantastic day 765 00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:15,640 Speaker 1: or whatever. But at least you can go into this 766 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,440 Speaker 1: game knowing that I have solid defense going into their 767 00:39:19,480 --> 00:39:22,839 Speaker 1: second year. That would give us an opportunity to win 768 00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:25,520 Speaker 1: a game instead of a defense coming into it being 769 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: their first year. See, now I want to talk to 770 00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,160 Speaker 1: you because you mentioned the note taking that you noticed 771 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,120 Speaker 1: in coach McDermott when you had that dinner with him 772 00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: with Steve and Bruce and Jim and all of those 773 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 1: guys last year, the first year he's here. So last week, 774 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: coach has a bunch of college basketball coaches out here 775 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: at practice. Really think it was Wednesday or Thursday. Invited 776 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,239 Speaker 1: a bunch of local college coaches out. So I saw 777 00:39:50,320 --> 00:39:53,520 Speaker 1: Reggie Witherspoon there from Kenisians, Nate Oates was here from 778 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: you b you know, and their assistance were here too. 779 00:39:57,320 --> 00:40:01,160 Speaker 1: And one of the one of the assistant coaches for 780 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,920 Speaker 1: UB was quoted in the paper and he said, you know, 781 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:08,640 Speaker 1: I'm there asking Coach McDermott questions and he answers, you know, 782 00:40:08,920 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 1: the two or three questions that I had, and then 783 00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,919 Speaker 1: he starts asking me questions, Well, what made you guys 784 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,320 Speaker 1: so successful this past year, you know, winning a tournament 785 00:40:16,360 --> 00:40:19,520 Speaker 1: game and doing that. What practices did you find were 786 00:40:19,640 --> 00:40:22,359 Speaker 1: most helpful to you? And he says, well, first of all, 787 00:40:22,400 --> 00:40:26,160 Speaker 1: I'm taking a back that he's asking me questions. He goes, 788 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: but then he pulls out a note car. He's taking 789 00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:32,279 Speaker 1: notes from my answers. He said, I couldn't. I don't 790 00:40:32,280 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 1: know what was going on. He said, I'm sitting there 791 00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: going to my shouldn't I be the one what's going 792 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,720 Speaker 1: on here? But that's I think coach McDermott looks at 793 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: every everything, every person he comes into contact with in 794 00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:50,440 Speaker 1: the coaching world as an opportunity to learn more. It 795 00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: may not correlate directly sport to sport, but it might 796 00:40:55,000 --> 00:41:00,960 Speaker 1: be a little, a little timy part of how they transition, 797 00:41:01,080 --> 00:41:04,200 Speaker 1: maybe from one drill to another, how they plan before 798 00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:06,080 Speaker 1: they actually go out on the quarter or the field, 799 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:08,440 Speaker 1: and it might just be a little thing that peakus 800 00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:11,120 Speaker 1: coach's interest And don't let me write that down. Yeah, 801 00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:14,480 Speaker 1: if it means there's a better way to have a 802 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:18,480 Speaker 1: better method to get the message across the players, or 803 00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:22,560 Speaker 1: the example or the drill or the technique, whatever, he's 804 00:41:22,600 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: gonna soak it up and use it no matter who 805 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,000 Speaker 1: it is. No matter who it is, it could be 806 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: somebody at of Gas Nation, or somebody at Wigman's or 807 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:37,239 Speaker 1: somebody This guy takes notes on every single thing. So 808 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 1: to even eat at that dinner, it was he too 809 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,000 Speaker 1: busy scribbling. He eat a little bit, Yeah, hate a 810 00:41:42,040 --> 00:41:44,680 Speaker 1: little bit, didn't didn't, didn't eat a lot. Yeah he 811 00:41:44,880 --> 00:41:47,040 Speaker 1: was you know, you know he's a talker. That's not 812 00:41:47,040 --> 00:41:48,879 Speaker 1: why he was there. Yeah, he wasn't there to eat. 813 00:41:49,239 --> 00:41:51,160 Speaker 1: He was. He was you know, he was a talker. 814 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,680 Speaker 1: And you know, and he's a listener too, And that's 815 00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: the thing that you get from coach McDermott. I mean, look, 816 00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 1: I love the guy. I love what he's all about. 817 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:04,400 Speaker 1: And he's always because he's a guy who doesn't think 818 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:07,680 Speaker 1: that he knows everything. He's always willing to learn. And 819 00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,919 Speaker 1: I'm sure come training camp there will be some more 820 00:42:11,000 --> 00:42:12,960 Speaker 1: notes that he'll be taken. There will be some more 821 00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:16,480 Speaker 1: things that you guys probably haven't heard throughout this offseason 822 00:42:16,560 --> 00:42:18,800 Speaker 1: or whatever. You know. I like this guy never stops 823 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: and that's what I love about him. He's a guy 824 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:24,800 Speaker 1: attention to detail. And I think when you look back, 825 00:42:25,520 --> 00:42:29,720 Speaker 1: Bill Polian probably said he's a younger Marv, a younger Marv, 826 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: And to say something like that, that's a pretty high praise. Now, 827 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,359 Speaker 1: I will say this and I only covered Marv at 828 00:42:35,360 --> 00:42:37,600 Speaker 1: the end of his career, at the very end, and 829 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:45,799 Speaker 1: Marv seemed more reserved and calculating in his approach to 830 00:42:45,880 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: coaching right now. I know he could get fired up. 831 00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,000 Speaker 1: We've all seen the NFL films. You over a Fisher's 832 00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:54,440 Speaker 1: jerk and all of that. But at the same time, 833 00:42:55,360 --> 00:42:59,160 Speaker 1: I almost feel like there's an intensity level that coach 834 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,160 Speaker 1: McDermott had as all the time, all the time. It's 835 00:43:03,200 --> 00:43:05,920 Speaker 1: not always dialed up to ten, but it's usually hovering 836 00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,080 Speaker 1: between five and seven no matter what day it is, 837 00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:12,160 Speaker 1: because he's just he's always go go go kind of approach, 838 00:43:12,840 --> 00:43:17,520 Speaker 1: not helter skelter. It's a controlled um intensity. Obviously on 839 00:43:17,600 --> 00:43:21,560 Speaker 1: game day it reaches another level. But marvit always seemed 840 00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:24,600 Speaker 1: in the practice setting. And maybe it's because he had 841 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,439 Speaker 1: the confidence in you guys like I got veteran played 842 00:43:27,480 --> 00:43:28,839 Speaker 1: they know what they're doing, you know what I mean. 843 00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,720 Speaker 1: I don't need to crack the whip here, you know, Bruce, 844 00:43:31,840 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 1: you know you can hang out. You don't have to 845 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:38,480 Speaker 1: practice today, you know. So, so I'm wondering if that 846 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: might have been a part of it, um, because when 847 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: I heard that comparison, I was like That's really interesting 848 00:43:44,239 --> 00:43:47,480 Speaker 1: because I see coach McDermott as kind of this, um, 849 00:43:47,560 --> 00:43:49,640 Speaker 1: I don't want to say fire and Brinstone, that's not right, 850 00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:55,680 Speaker 1: but this intense competitor all the time. Like he he's 851 00:43:55,719 --> 00:43:57,480 Speaker 1: as serious as a heart attack, you know what I mean, 852 00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: Like he is, he is serious about all of this stuff. 853 00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,200 Speaker 1: And he'll he'll crack a joke and have half a 854 00:44:03,239 --> 00:44:05,880 Speaker 1: smile for about two a seconds, right, but after that 855 00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 1: it's right back to the task at hand. And I 856 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:10,360 Speaker 1: always thought Marv kind of had this, you know, he 857 00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 1: came across as this jovial coach that loved what he 858 00:44:12,920 --> 00:44:15,520 Speaker 1: was doing, but also had this wry sense of humor 859 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,000 Speaker 1: that could get you to laugh. And you know, it 860 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,920 Speaker 1: was almost like hiss, Dad, that's coaching you where McDermott 861 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,759 Speaker 1: is like a sergeant, that's you know what I mean. Yeah, 862 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,400 Speaker 1: That's where I felt they were a little bit different different. 863 00:44:29,480 --> 00:44:31,759 Speaker 1: So I'm kind of so when you heard Bill say that, 864 00:44:32,640 --> 00:44:35,160 Speaker 1: how did you maybe interpret that as to how they 865 00:44:35,239 --> 00:44:38,160 Speaker 1: might be alike ways with their coach? Well, I think 866 00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:43,600 Speaker 1: with Marv and with coach McDermott, um, you know, I 867 00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:47,000 Speaker 1: mean he brought over like Leslie Fraser Leslie Fraser has 868 00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,800 Speaker 1: been a defensive coordinator and a head coach in the 869 00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:52,759 Speaker 1: National Football League, and so that right there was telling me, 870 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:56,000 Speaker 1: you know what, he's gonna lit Leslie Fraser coach. And 871 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,279 Speaker 1: I think when he brought all his coaches in, he's 872 00:44:58,280 --> 00:45:00,560 Speaker 1: gonna let him coach. And that's what That's same thing 873 00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: that Marve be Leavey did. He let the assistant coaches coach, 874 00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: and Marv was the special team guy. That's what that 875 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:10,479 Speaker 1: was his fourteen that's what he was wanting to really 876 00:45:10,480 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 1: be involved with. But he's letting his coaches coach. And 877 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:16,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what coach McDermott is doing now, even 878 00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,240 Speaker 1: though he's kind of over by the drills or whatever, 879 00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:22,759 Speaker 1: sometimes he's letting them coach. He's letting them coach and 880 00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: probably putting in his impact. You know, after the players 881 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,520 Speaker 1: are gone and the coaches have their team meeting, and 882 00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:32,319 Speaker 1: we've seen coaches come through here that you know, if 883 00:45:32,320 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: there was a downfall, it was the staff that they hired, 884 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:39,560 Speaker 1: you know. Brag Williams, I think he miscalculated because I 885 00:45:39,600 --> 00:45:42,719 Speaker 1: think he felt we're going through salary cap purge, We're 886 00:45:42,719 --> 00:45:44,319 Speaker 1: gonna get rid of a lot of veterans. I'm gonna 887 00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 1: have a ton of young players. Let me hire coaches 888 00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,000 Speaker 1: that are used to dealing with young players. And so 889 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:53,600 Speaker 1: almost half of his coaching staff when he first came 890 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,080 Speaker 1: in the door in no one came from the college ranks, right, 891 00:45:57,560 --> 00:46:01,840 Speaker 1: And I think it's set them back because now Greg 892 00:46:01,880 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: Williams had NFL coaching experience, and there were a couple 893 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,399 Speaker 1: others on the staff that did, But in those game 894 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:09,680 Speaker 1: planning sessions when he needed people to lean on and 895 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: bounce ideas off of for what works in the NFL, 896 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,799 Speaker 1: I don't know if there was enough expertise in the room. 897 00:46:16,600 --> 00:46:19,640 Speaker 1: And then on Sundays you're getting out coached because you 898 00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,759 Speaker 1: just don't have guys that can adjust on the fly 899 00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,200 Speaker 1: with the xs and os based on what's happening out 900 00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:27,200 Speaker 1: on the field. And I think that's what really sunk 901 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:30,360 Speaker 1: him in terms of having success. I mean, granted he 902 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:33,800 Speaker 1: had two thousand and one, is roster was like fifty 903 00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,480 Speaker 1: three guys. There may have been twenty guys that were 904 00:46:35,480 --> 00:46:37,600 Speaker 1: true NFL players. I mean, that's the kind of salary 905 00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,719 Speaker 1: purge they went through in OH one. But that's why 906 00:46:40,760 --> 00:46:43,080 Speaker 1: I was very encouraged when I saw the staff that 907 00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:45,960 Speaker 1: coach McDermott put together, it was very encouraging some of 908 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,280 Speaker 1: the names he brought in. Yeah, and you mentioned Frasier. 909 00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:52,520 Speaker 1: The fact that he brought in a guy of that 910 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:55,640 Speaker 1: proven pedigree on the side of the ball where he 911 00:46:55,719 --> 00:46:59,400 Speaker 1: was supposedly the expert, I think said a lot about 912 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: what his which was gonna be as head coach. I'm 913 00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:04,319 Speaker 1: gonna be the overseer. You're gonna be handling the nuts 914 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:07,160 Speaker 1: and bolts. Yeah, and you know, we saw the results. 915 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:11,080 Speaker 1: Um And you know, I it's interesting too because I 916 00:47:11,120 --> 00:47:13,399 Speaker 1: talked to Lorenzo Alexander about this, because I was talking 917 00:47:13,440 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: about how much better can the run defense be in 918 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:17,520 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen as opposed to last year? And he said, 919 00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: you know what, we are only horrible for three weeks, 920 00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,319 Speaker 1: he goes, But when you're bad for three weeks in 921 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:25,799 Speaker 1: the NFL, your ranking takes a tumble and it's hard 922 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,319 Speaker 1: to get it back right, you know. I mean they 923 00:47:28,360 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 1: went for because they were twelve, They were the run 924 00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: in the league before that three game stretch. They drop 925 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:35,359 Speaker 1: all the way to like thirty if and I only 926 00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: think they got it back up to twenty eighth or 927 00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:38,359 Speaker 1: twenty ninth by the end of the year. I mean, 928 00:47:38,400 --> 00:47:41,800 Speaker 1: you have you have some burn the game. Take games. 929 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:44,319 Speaker 1: It's hard to come back from that. You only got 930 00:47:44,320 --> 00:47:46,680 Speaker 1: sixteen of them. Well, I'm sure now you got under 931 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:49,200 Speaker 1: sixty two. I'm sure the coaching were in coming into 932 00:47:49,239 --> 00:47:51,560 Speaker 1: the meeting Monday, like, hey, you know what, let's just 933 00:47:51,640 --> 00:47:54,880 Speaker 1: move on and not even watched it. Everybody knows what happened, 934 00:47:54,880 --> 00:47:57,800 Speaker 1: how many yards they got, what they average the running 935 00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,040 Speaker 1: backs or whatever. Let's just lighted road, that tape away 936 00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,600 Speaker 1: and just go and just move on because it's not 937 00:48:03,920 --> 00:48:06,319 Speaker 1: It wasn't pretty. We all know that. Eight o three 938 00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:08,640 Speaker 1: oh five fifty to join us, we're talking about the 939 00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:11,520 Speaker 1: Bills team culture. Why it was embedded so quickly. Is 940 00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:14,439 Speaker 1: it McDermott, veteran leadership, making the playoffs or something else? 941 00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:17,000 Speaker 1: You tell us at eight three five fifty. We'll be 942 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,160 Speaker 1: back in a moment on the other side, as Thurman 943 00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:23,799 Speaker 1: Thomas picks the World Cup team he is going to 944 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:25,720 Speaker 1: root for with a little help from five to thirty 945 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,239 Speaker 1: eight dot Com. We'll do that after this break. Here 946 00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,880 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is 947 00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:42,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bill's Radio. Chris Brown with Thurman Thomas here on 948 00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:44,920 Speaker 1: one bills live in for Murph and Steve today, and 949 00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: we're gonna get into a little World Cup after the 950 00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:51,040 Speaker 1: top of the hour break and Thurman, who is a 951 00:48:51,080 --> 00:48:54,520 Speaker 1: complete novice with respect to soccer in general and the 952 00:48:54,560 --> 00:48:56,560 Speaker 1: World Cup. On top of that, we're gonna try to 953 00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 1: pick a team for him to root for with the 954 00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:00,319 Speaker 1: help of five thirty eight dot com. So and ask 955 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:02,200 Speaker 1: you seven questions there, we're gonna get your team at 956 00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:05,879 Speaker 1: it here. Okay. In terms of team strength, I want 957 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,759 Speaker 1: a team that A is an underdog, B could make 958 00:49:08,800 --> 00:49:14,520 Speaker 1: some noise. C is a powerhouse. B could make some noise. Okay, 959 00:49:15,239 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: star power. How important is teamwork to you? I don't 960 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,600 Speaker 1: mind a one man army. I'm all about squad goals. 961 00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,960 Speaker 1: All about squad goals, okay. Offense versus defense? Do you 962 00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:28,440 Speaker 1: want a team that's stronger on offense or stronger on defense? 963 00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,440 Speaker 1: Here are your three choices. I want a lot of 964 00:49:30,480 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: goals or I'm going to fall asleep. Why not both? 965 00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:38,000 Speaker 1: I love a good zero zero time. Okay, I thought 966 00:49:38,040 --> 00:49:41,240 Speaker 1: you can go for the first one. Passing halfback, passes 967 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,360 Speaker 1: to the center, back to the wing, back to center. 968 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,719 Speaker 1: Here are your choices. Please, just shoot the ball. Real 969 00:49:46,760 --> 00:49:50,000 Speaker 1: teams set up their shots. Real teams set up their shots. Wow, 970 00:49:50,040 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: you are You are completely going against what I think 971 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,640 Speaker 1: you'd be picking. All right, a whistle physicality, A whistle blows, 972 00:49:56,680 --> 00:49:59,319 Speaker 1: and the game stops choices. If I wanted to see 973 00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:02,520 Speaker 1: the guy's tack each other, I'd watch the NFL. Come on, reff, 974 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:08,400 Speaker 1: this isn't croquet. Oh gotta go with a okay American 975 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,800 Speaker 1: fan base at a bar watching a game. I'm okay 976 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,839 Speaker 1: being the only one who cares about the match. I'd 977 00:50:12,920 --> 00:50:16,680 Speaker 1: enjoy meeting some ex pats wearing the same jersey. Meet 978 00:50:17,080 --> 00:50:19,520 Speaker 1: x pats were in the same jersey and the last one. 979 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:23,759 Speaker 1: With respect to goal, do you just say goal? Or 980 00:50:23,880 --> 00:50:29,520 Speaker 1: you're doing the Spanish one? Go? I'm going okay, all right, 981 00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:31,040 Speaker 1: you're in the spirit of this thing, Thurm, and I 982 00:50:31,120 --> 00:50:33,200 Speaker 1: like it. Oh, look at your team. England is a 983 00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:36,040 Speaker 1: great fit for you. The Three Lions have been playing 984 00:50:36,080 --> 00:50:39,000 Speaker 1: this game and routinely crushing the hearts of their fans 985 00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:44,120 Speaker 1: since the nineteenth century. God save England. Unfortunately. England unfortunately 986 00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:47,560 Speaker 1: has been very disappointing right in the last few World Cups. 987 00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:49,680 Speaker 1: Based on their talent, they should have done a lot better. 988 00:50:49,719 --> 00:50:52,200 Speaker 1: A lot of people feel they're gonna be playing a 989 00:50:52,239 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 1: lot better in this World Cup. And you're in luck 990 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:56,080 Speaker 1: because they're going to start in about an hour and 991 00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,680 Speaker 1: we'll play their first game against Tunisia and they are 992 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: a heavy favorite to win. That to who Tunisia? It's 993 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: an African nation. Oh so you England is your team? Alright? 994 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:10,279 Speaker 1: Three the three Lions, that is their all right, We've 995 00:51:10,320 --> 00:51:11,880 Speaker 1: got to take a break. But on the other side, 996 00:51:11,880 --> 00:51:14,480 Speaker 1: we'll do a little more World Cup fund with Thurman Read, 997 00:51:14,560 --> 00:51:17,759 Speaker 1: Ferguson and Colton Schmidt are soccer experts here at One 998 00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,520 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. They will break down what has happened so 999 00:51:20,560 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: far and what could happen in the couple of weeks 1000 00:51:23,080 --> 00:51:25,239 Speaker 1: to come in the World Cup. That's next on One 1001 00:51:25,280 --> 00:51:27,919 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bills 1002 00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: Radiolo Hills Radio Network Stories date brooks Kepta on his 1003 00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: second consecutive US Open title on Sunday. He posted a 1004 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 1: one over for the tournament on the challenging Shinnecock Hills course. 1005 00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:48,600 Speaker 1: The year before at Aaron Hills in Wisconsin, kept a 1006 00:51:48,640 --> 00:51:51,600 Speaker 1: shot a sixteen under par to win the US Open 1007 00:51:51,840 --> 00:51:54,600 Speaker 1: He also became the first to repeat as US Open champs. 1008 00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:57,839 Speaker 1: It's Curtis Strange in nineteen eighty eight and eighty nine. 1009 00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:01,239 Speaker 1: Bills GM Brandon Bean says Jones should be ready to 1010 00:52:01,280 --> 00:52:03,879 Speaker 1: go near the start of training camp. Jones underwent knee 1011 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,200 Speaker 1: surgery missed the spring practices. Being said that Jones will 1012 00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:09,440 Speaker 1: have to play some ketchup on the field, but has 1013 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:12,279 Speaker 1: done a good job in the meeting room. Jones as 1014 00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:14,880 Speaker 1: yet to be on the field with AJ mccaron and 1015 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,560 Speaker 1: Josh Allen in the practice setting. Appearing here on one 1016 00:52:17,600 --> 00:52:20,719 Speaker 1: Bills Live, Being said Jones has new goals and new 1017 00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: motives and is excited, but he'll have to quote earn 1018 00:52:24,200 --> 00:52:27,840 Speaker 1: his way. Colts quarterback Andrew Lux said the pain in 1019 00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,080 Speaker 1: his throwing shoulder is gone and it's going to stay 1020 00:52:31,080 --> 00:52:33,360 Speaker 1: that way. Luck through the football in front of reporters 1021 00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:36,960 Speaker 1: last week at the team's mini camp. Mmqb's Albert Breer 1022 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: is also reporting that the Colts will monitor lux reps 1023 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:45,040 Speaker 1: in training camp and give him days off World Cup action. Today. 1024 00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:47,120 Speaker 1: Sweden was able to hold off South Korea with a 1025 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,719 Speaker 1: one nothing result this morning, getting their loan goal on 1026 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 1: a penalty kick. Belgium and Panama kicked off at eleven 1027 00:52:53,600 --> 00:52:56,359 Speaker 1: today and Belgium was in total control. They end up 1028 00:52:56,360 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 1: winning three nothing. Lukaku with two of the three goals 1029 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:03,680 Speaker 1: for Belgium. England will take on Tunisia at two pm 1030 00:53:04,160 --> 00:53:07,279 Speaker 1: Eastern time, and the Sabers are making final preparations for 1031 00:53:07,320 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: the NHL Entry Draft this coming Friday. Holders of the 1032 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:14,879 Speaker 1: first pick, they're expected to take Swedish defenseman Rossmasdaalen. If so, 1033 00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:18,160 Speaker 1: he'd be the first Swedish player to be drafted first 1034 00:53:18,200 --> 00:53:20,759 Speaker 1: overall since Matt Sundeen was the first pick of the 1035 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,799 Speaker 1: Quebec Nordeeks back in nineteen eighty nine. And that is 1036 00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,040 Speaker 1: your sports update here from One Bills Drive. It is 1037 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:31,360 Speaker 1: One Bills Live Chris Brown along with Thurman Thomas filling 1038 00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:34,120 Speaker 1: in for Murph and Steve today. Murph will be back tomorrow. 1039 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,200 Speaker 1: I'll be co hosting with him the rest of the 1040 00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:40,680 Speaker 1: week as Steve is out on vacation. And yes, yes 1041 00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:44,560 Speaker 1: you can chuckle Thurman. It's fine because vacation is something 1042 00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,799 Speaker 1: that Steve has greatly enjoyed since he's joined the One 1043 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:52,359 Speaker 1: Bills Live staff on this very program. So we kids 1044 00:53:52,360 --> 00:53:54,080 Speaker 1: Steve and we like to, and he's not here to 1045 00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,200 Speaker 1: hear it, so we're having it at his expense, and 1046 00:53:56,239 --> 00:53:58,160 Speaker 1: that's just the way it's going to be. As Thurman said, 1047 00:53:58,160 --> 00:54:02,080 Speaker 1: he's out of the country, so no issue there. As promised. 1048 00:54:02,120 --> 00:54:04,880 Speaker 1: Here in the one o'clock hour, we step away from 1049 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 1: the American football side of the Ledger and we go 1050 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,680 Speaker 1: to the European football side as we discuss the World Cup. 1051 00:54:10,719 --> 00:54:15,200 Speaker 1: It's the world's most popular tournament, despite what people who 1052 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,680 Speaker 1: are fans of March madness might say. Although I am 1053 00:54:17,719 --> 00:54:20,360 Speaker 1: a giant fan of March Madness and enjoy that a lot. 1054 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,839 Speaker 1: But we wanted to get some expertise with respect to 1055 00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: the World Cup. Who to root for, maybe a player 1056 00:54:28,040 --> 00:54:31,319 Speaker 1: to watch, a team that might surprise some people and 1057 00:54:31,360 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: make a little noise. So we thought we'd go to 1058 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: our resident experts here at one Bill's Drive. And there 1059 00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:42,399 Speaker 1: are two in Buffalo's locker room, and one of them 1060 00:54:42,440 --> 00:54:45,640 Speaker 1: is punter Colton Schmidt. The other is long snapper Red Ferguson. 1061 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:48,480 Speaker 1: When I talk to these guys last Thursday and said, hey, 1062 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,360 Speaker 1: is it all right if we call you on Monday 1063 00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:53,120 Speaker 1: to get some World Cup input, They're like, do it, 1064 00:54:53,560 --> 00:54:57,440 Speaker 1: Let's do it. So these guys are ready, they're prepared. Wow, 1065 00:54:57,800 --> 00:54:59,800 Speaker 1: and we've got them both on the line at the 1066 00:54:59,800 --> 00:55:01,840 Speaker 1: same same time. So Colton and read, thank you for 1067 00:55:01,920 --> 00:55:04,120 Speaker 1: joining us. Are we ready to talk a little World 1068 00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:09,279 Speaker 1: Cup here? Absolutely? Thanks for having us. Absolutely. Yeah. I 1069 00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:14,000 Speaker 1: already saw Reid is actively tweeting he's got his Belgium 1070 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,800 Speaker 1: jersey on, and that seemed to work really well because 1071 00:55:17,239 --> 00:55:19,880 Speaker 1: Reid they won three and hill And I know Panama 1072 00:55:20,040 --> 00:55:22,080 Speaker 1: is one of the lowest rated teams in the tournament, 1073 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:26,880 Speaker 1: but are you surprised by that result at all? A 1074 00:55:26,920 --> 00:55:32,040 Speaker 1: little surprised after the first half half they got three 1075 00:55:32,040 --> 00:55:35,360 Speaker 1: in the second half. I think, um, they kind of 1076 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:42,920 Speaker 1: I guess a little talking to half time. I think 1077 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,400 Speaker 1: between their rankings and their FIFA rankings, Belgium third and 1078 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,400 Speaker 1: I think Panama is fifty fifth, So I think on 1079 00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:53,239 Speaker 1: the on the broadcast before the game, they said it 1080 00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:57,120 Speaker 1: was one of the biggest discrepancies in rankings in the 1081 00:55:57,160 --> 00:56:00,000 Speaker 1: whole tournament. So I think, uh, they kind of realized 1082 00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:02,279 Speaker 1: that they should be they should be beating up on 1083 00:56:02,320 --> 00:56:04,160 Speaker 1: Panama a little more than they did in the first half, 1084 00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:07,040 Speaker 1: and they turned it up a notch. Hey, Colton, when 1085 00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,880 Speaker 1: you're like out in the bar or wherever watching a 1086 00:56:09,960 --> 00:56:13,080 Speaker 1: soccer game. How do you explain it to someone who 1087 00:56:13,960 --> 00:56:17,000 Speaker 1: really may not have any interest but comes over to 1088 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: ask you a couple of questions? How was that? Like? Um, 1089 00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,320 Speaker 1: I had to do that yesterday. There's some people, Um, 1090 00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:26,120 Speaker 1: there's a good turnout out here at some of the 1091 00:56:26,680 --> 00:56:31,000 Speaker 1: local soccer bars though in California, And uh, but some 1092 00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,239 Speaker 1: of the people just couldn't like wrap their minds around 1093 00:56:33,239 --> 00:56:35,359 Speaker 1: how like the group stage works and like everything like 1094 00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,359 Speaker 1: that with a point system everything. So that was probably 1095 00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,400 Speaker 1: the time I spent most explaining to them, was that 1096 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:44,239 Speaker 1: aspect of it. So we already know Colton, who read 1097 00:56:44,360 --> 00:56:47,000 Speaker 1: is rooting for it with the US not a part 1098 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:50,360 Speaker 1: of this tournament. So do you have a favorite team 1099 00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:54,239 Speaker 1: that you're pulling for right now? Uh? Yeah, I was 1100 00:56:54,239 --> 00:57:02,600 Speaker 1: walking my Germany jersey yesterday. Yeah to win. But wow, Yeah, 1101 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:04,359 Speaker 1: I knew Mexico was going to be a sleeper team 1102 00:57:04,360 --> 00:57:07,879 Speaker 1: though there. I think they're definitely very underrated. Yeah, they're 1103 00:57:07,880 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna be good. They gonna team to watch this, ye 1104 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: for sure. Do you have a concern Colton that and 1105 00:57:13,200 --> 00:57:18,400 Speaker 1: we've seen previous World Cup champions do this before, where 1106 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:21,680 Speaker 1: a team wins the World Cup title, as Germany did 1107 00:57:21,720 --> 00:57:25,320 Speaker 1: four years ago, and then that country or that coaching 1108 00:57:25,400 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: staff chooses to keep maybe a few too many players 1109 00:57:31,320 --> 00:57:37,080 Speaker 1: from that previous Cup champion team, and then unfortunately the 1110 00:57:37,120 --> 00:57:39,720 Speaker 1: result is the team might be a little too old 1111 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,280 Speaker 1: to get through what is the most one of the 1112 00:57:42,320 --> 00:57:46,680 Speaker 1: most physically challenging tournaments in the world, and they don't 1113 00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,040 Speaker 1: have enough young legs to get them all the way 1114 00:57:49,080 --> 00:57:51,280 Speaker 1: back again, because I'm looking up and down that roster 1115 00:57:51,360 --> 00:57:55,080 Speaker 1: when I was watching Mexico Germany, and I'm saying, uh, 1116 00:57:55,120 --> 00:57:57,320 Speaker 1: do they have too many guys that are twenty a 1117 00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:03,760 Speaker 1: twenty nine and not enough that are twenty three twenty four? Um? 1118 00:58:03,800 --> 00:58:05,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so. They didn't look like they were, 1119 00:58:06,120 --> 00:58:08,120 Speaker 1: you know, hurting too much on that side. I think 1120 00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,920 Speaker 1: part of it was with Mexico's um strong counter attacks 1121 00:58:11,960 --> 00:58:15,960 Speaker 1: that that just had them off their game a little bit. UM. 1122 00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,800 Speaker 1: But I didn't like they're getting tired or outran too much. Um. 1123 00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:22,160 Speaker 1: It just came down to, you know, the opportunities that 1124 00:58:22,160 --> 00:58:24,800 Speaker 1: they had and just couldn't couldn't score. Okay, so one 1125 00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:28,600 Speaker 1: nothing result for Mexico. Read would you call that the 1126 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:32,439 Speaker 1: most surprising results so far, or was there another game 1127 00:58:32,440 --> 00:58:36,480 Speaker 1: that kind of caught you off guard? Yeah, I mean 1128 00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: that would definitely be h. I mean, as Colton said Mexico, 1129 00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 1: you know, I had I had kind of had them 1130 00:58:42,520 --> 00:58:46,680 Speaker 1: written as a surprise team, but uh, that's you know, 1131 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:50,520 Speaker 1: definitely a surprising result. But also I would say, um, 1132 00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: as far as a quality of team, Argentina drawing with Iceland, 1133 00:58:55,360 --> 00:58:58,560 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I Iceland two years ago and the Euros 1134 00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:01,360 Speaker 1: they beat England, not England out of that tournament, so 1135 00:59:01,880 --> 00:59:03,440 Speaker 1: kind of puts them on the map a little bit. 1136 00:59:03,560 --> 00:59:07,880 Speaker 1: But with the the guys in the class that Argentina 1137 00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:10,040 Speaker 1: has on their team, especially with Messi alone, I mean, 1138 00:59:10,040 --> 00:59:12,000 Speaker 1: they should be able to feel like they should be 1139 00:59:12,040 --> 00:59:17,000 Speaker 1: able to get past Iceland, especially seeing what Ronaldo did 1140 00:59:17,040 --> 00:59:21,320 Speaker 1: for Portugal against Spain on Friday. Okay, Ree, you just 1141 00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:24,760 Speaker 1: kind of went into my next question, who's better Messi 1142 00:59:25,320 --> 00:59:30,800 Speaker 1: or Ronaldo? I'm I'm partial to Messy. I like the 1143 00:59:30,840 --> 00:59:34,320 Speaker 1: way he plays the game a little bit more. I'd 1144 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,880 Speaker 1: kind of like the Jordan versus Lebron debate. It's you're 1145 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:42,080 Speaker 1: always going to get too completely polarizing sides to the story. 1146 00:59:42,120 --> 00:59:44,480 Speaker 1: But I mean, you look at the career stats, they're 1147 00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 1: almost completely even. Um, I mean total goals, you know, 1148 00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 1: league goals, international goals. I think Ronaldo just hit you know, 1149 00:59:54,280 --> 00:59:57,720 Speaker 1: eight eighty five. I think he topped La and a 1150 00:59:57,800 --> 01:00:00,720 Speaker 1: bunch of in Maradona, a lot of those all time 1151 01:00:00,800 --> 01:00:03,640 Speaker 1: classic but uh yeah, I mean I I you know, 1152 01:00:03,840 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 1: Ronaldo is he played his game a little a little 1153 01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:13,720 Speaker 1: too arrogant for my liking. So we're talking to Read Ferguson. Yeah, sorry, 1154 01:00:14,080 --> 01:00:16,520 Speaker 1: everybody doing okay? So yeah, so we're talking to Bill's 1155 01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:19,720 Speaker 1: long snapper, Read Ferguson Bills punter Colton Schmidt are two 1156 01:00:19,800 --> 01:00:22,400 Speaker 1: residents soccer experts in the Bills locker room as we're 1157 01:00:22,440 --> 01:00:24,960 Speaker 1: breaking down some of the happenings of the World Cup 1158 01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:28,920 Speaker 1: and what might still happen. Um, Brazil Switzerland was another 1159 01:00:29,520 --> 01:00:32,000 Speaker 1: surprising result. I thought the Swiss did a really good 1160 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 1: job of doing something that a lot of teams don't 1161 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:38,080 Speaker 1: do to Brazil. It's almost like teams respect Brazil too much. 1162 01:00:38,760 --> 01:00:41,360 Speaker 1: And I thought Switzerland's pressure on the ball when they 1163 01:00:41,520 --> 01:00:44,520 Speaker 1: lost it to win it back was kind of a 1164 01:00:44,720 --> 01:00:48,960 Speaker 1: thing you don't often see teams do against that Brazilian side. 1165 01:00:49,000 --> 01:00:50,560 Speaker 1: What what do you guys think of the one one 1166 01:00:50,640 --> 01:00:52,640 Speaker 1: draw that Switzerland was able to get with Brazil. We'll 1167 01:00:52,640 --> 01:00:58,840 Speaker 1: start with Colton, though Switzerland really like stepped up to 1168 01:00:58,920 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: the Playton played um and I feel like Brazil is 1169 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:04,200 Speaker 1: in a similar boat to Germany right now, like they 1170 01:01:04,280 --> 01:01:06,760 Speaker 1: both just quite haven't turned it on yet. So once 1171 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:08,480 Speaker 1: they turned it on, I think they're gonna you know, 1172 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: you're gonna start seeing them put up a lot more goals. 1173 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:13,840 Speaker 1: What about you read what you think of that won 1174 01:01:13,920 --> 01:01:17,120 Speaker 1: one game? Yeah, pretty much the same thing. I mean, 1175 01:01:17,400 --> 01:01:20,240 Speaker 1: the first game is always hit or miss with these 1176 01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:22,480 Speaker 1: with the big teams. You know, he might take you 1177 01:01:22,560 --> 01:01:24,680 Speaker 1: a game to get in your rhythm. But I think 1178 01:01:25,120 --> 01:01:30,080 Speaker 1: what really helped Switzerland wash. I mean they they they 1179 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:34,320 Speaker 1: were crushing Theymark and that's basically how you you have 1180 01:01:34,440 --> 01:01:37,280 Speaker 1: to beat him. That's how you counter how good he is, 1181 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: and he's probably I mean, he's widely respected as the 1182 01:01:40,720 --> 01:01:43,000 Speaker 1: top five player in the world, so you know, beating 1183 01:01:43,080 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: him up and founding him a while, getting him off 1184 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:48,120 Speaker 1: his game, I think is what really turned the tide 1185 01:01:48,200 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: in Switzerland favor. Well, this question for either one of you, guys, Colton, 1186 01:01:52,800 --> 01:01:56,480 Speaker 1: I read when if you're watching if the good listeners 1187 01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: on right now they're watching the show and follow and 1188 01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:03,560 Speaker 1: don't follow the World Cup in any capacity, uh, if 1189 01:02:03,600 --> 01:02:06,120 Speaker 1: they have to be counter searching or something like that, 1190 01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:09,160 Speaker 1: and wanted like a good example a sample for ten 1191 01:02:09,280 --> 01:02:13,560 Speaker 1: or fifteen minutes, who would be the player that you 1192 01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,840 Speaker 1: would say, watch this guy for the next ten or 1193 01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:21,920 Speaker 1: fifteen minutes or thirty minutes watching this as of right now, 1194 01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:24,400 Speaker 1: I'd say, if anyone wants to taste the World Cup, 1195 01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,320 Speaker 1: just watch the highlights of the Spain Portufool games. You're 1196 01:02:27,320 --> 01:02:28,880 Speaker 1: gonna see a lot of big stars in that game, 1197 01:02:29,440 --> 01:02:32,680 Speaker 1: a lot of action. So that would be a great 1198 01:02:33,280 --> 01:02:36,720 Speaker 1: entry into the World Cup for someone to start. What 1199 01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:39,080 Speaker 1: about you read? What do you think? How are you gonna? 1200 01:02:39,120 --> 01:02:43,840 Speaker 1: Are you gonna rope somebody in that? I think? I 1201 01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,600 Speaker 1: mean really going into the next round of games. If 1202 01:02:46,640 --> 01:02:49,800 Speaker 1: you flip on any of these, uh, any of the 1203 01:02:50,000 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: basically the Big eight you call them the Big eight 1204 01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:54,640 Speaker 1: or the Big ten, maybe any of those top teams 1205 01:02:54,760 --> 01:02:59,880 Speaker 1: Frances Brazil saying Portugal, Belgium, Argentina, and you just watch 1206 01:03:00,080 --> 01:03:01,600 Speaker 1: the way that they play and the way that they 1207 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:04,760 Speaker 1: you know, passed back and forth, create those triangles up 1208 01:03:04,760 --> 01:03:07,840 Speaker 1: and down the field press, high counterattack. I mean, it's 1209 01:03:07,920 --> 01:03:11,320 Speaker 1: it's really intriguing to watch, but you know, you just 1210 01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 1: you have to I guess you have to, um maybe 1211 01:03:16,320 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 1: just have patience to appreciate the game. I guess. Yeah. 1212 01:03:19,240 --> 01:03:21,680 Speaker 1: So we're talking to Reid Ferguson Colton Schmidt are two 1213 01:03:22,040 --> 01:03:24,320 Speaker 1: residents soccer experts a little bit of the World Cup 1214 01:03:24,400 --> 01:03:27,320 Speaker 1: having some fun with this thing. These guys are glued 1215 01:03:27,360 --> 01:03:30,520 Speaker 1: to just about every game. So you know, Colton, I 1216 01:03:30,600 --> 01:03:32,560 Speaker 1: know you kind of mentioned it a little bit already, 1217 01:03:32,600 --> 01:03:34,840 Speaker 1: but we want to kind of get your guys take 1218 01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: on each of these things. Um, So, a surprise a 1219 01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,040 Speaker 1: team that you think could be a surprise team in 1220 01:03:42,160 --> 01:03:44,760 Speaker 1: this World Cup? And Colton, why don't you go first? 1221 01:03:44,800 --> 01:03:48,880 Speaker 1: And then we'll let re take a stab at it. Um. Well, 1222 01:03:49,080 --> 01:03:52,640 Speaker 1: I think Mexico was ranked like fifteen, but so they're 1223 01:03:52,680 --> 01:03:54,840 Speaker 1: still ranks really high, right, but I feel like they're 1224 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:57,360 Speaker 1: they're better than that, and they showed it when they 1225 01:03:57,360 --> 01:04:00,360 Speaker 1: played Germany yesterday. One of the other teams though, that 1226 01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:02,400 Speaker 1: I'm kind of I'm kind of pulling for as the 1227 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:05,320 Speaker 1: underdog would be Iceland. It's kind of like how read 1228 01:04:05,360 --> 01:04:08,200 Speaker 1: said how they stepped up to the plate Um against 1229 01:04:08,280 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Argentina and I think they had a stat during the 1230 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:14,320 Speaker 1: game they said, um, Argentina has as many registered soccer 1231 01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:19,520 Speaker 1: players in the country as the population of Iceland itself. Wow. Yeah, 1232 01:04:19,800 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: so have we do? We have Colton and read with 1233 01:04:24,200 --> 01:04:28,919 Speaker 1: us guys. Yeah, I'm back, Okay, So guys, why don't 1234 01:04:28,960 --> 01:04:32,880 Speaker 1: we break down what you feel is the best jersey 1235 01:04:33,600 --> 01:04:38,640 Speaker 1: in the tournament? Who's got the best jersey? Um? I 1236 01:04:38,760 --> 01:04:43,120 Speaker 1: think when Nigeria got voted the best. Um. Yeah, a 1237 01:04:43,200 --> 01:04:45,080 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of I really I haven't. Yeah, 1238 01:04:45,080 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: I haven't. There's a lot. It's like it was that 1239 01:04:46,920 --> 01:04:50,120 Speaker 1: Neon Green ones. Um. I think my favorite one I've 1240 01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:52,520 Speaker 1: seen though, because I haven't seen all the teams jerseys. 1241 01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: I like Iceland like the way the they have like 1242 01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,800 Speaker 1: two tone colored blending together on the sleeves and stuff. 1243 01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:03,280 Speaker 1: The it looks really cool and clean. Um. But a 1244 01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:04,880 Speaker 1: lot of the teams, you know, keep keep to their 1245 01:05:04,920 --> 01:05:08,520 Speaker 1: roots and have very traditional style jerseys, like Brazil has, 1246 01:05:08,520 --> 01:05:11,040 Speaker 1: like you know, the same one in Spain is very similar, um, 1247 01:05:12,440 --> 01:05:14,000 Speaker 1: which which is kind of cool because that has just 1248 01:05:14,080 --> 01:05:18,480 Speaker 1: the history of it. So read what is read back 1249 01:05:18,520 --> 01:05:21,360 Speaker 1: with us? Reid? Do you have a jersey favorite. Yeah, 1250 01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:24,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna yeah, I'm you know, a huge, huge fan 1251 01:05:24,480 --> 01:05:27,800 Speaker 1: of the Nigeria jerseys this year. Um, you know, very 1252 01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:31,160 Speaker 1: very cool, but I'm gonna go with France. I think 1253 01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,320 Speaker 1: the blue is one of my favorite colors. So the 1254 01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:37,320 Speaker 1: dark blue with the light blue U shading on the 1255 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,920 Speaker 1: sleeves is pretty classy. Yeah, I kind of. I don't know. 1256 01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:47,320 Speaker 1: The Croatian jersey is particularly interesting. It is red and 1257 01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:51,000 Speaker 1: white checkers, so it's like checked all the way on 1258 01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:52,360 Speaker 1: the front. I don't know if it is on the 1259 01:05:52,400 --> 01:05:53,880 Speaker 1: back too. I think it's just the front because they 1260 01:05:53,880 --> 01:05:56,160 Speaker 1: got to show the number on the back. But um, 1261 01:05:56,800 --> 01:05:59,560 Speaker 1: you know, maybe for you it's like you're getting ready 1262 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:01,479 Speaker 1: to look at that jersey and you start getting hungry 1263 01:06:01,520 --> 01:06:04,200 Speaker 1: for barbecue because you're you know, barbecue table cloth. It's 1264 01:06:04,280 --> 01:06:05,800 Speaker 1: kind of the same kind of look to a certain 1265 01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:08,160 Speaker 1: extent because you're looking at it. Because I'll admitted, I 1266 01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:09,840 Speaker 1: was watching croat the other day and I was like, 1267 01:06:10,200 --> 01:06:16,520 Speaker 1: he looks just like a barber, you know, the yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, Okay, guys, 1268 01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:20,120 Speaker 1: look at listen to it. Um a breakout star in 1269 01:06:20,200 --> 01:06:22,720 Speaker 1: this year's World Cup. Who do you think it is? 1270 01:06:23,040 --> 01:06:28,480 Speaker 1: Golden breakout star. That's a that's a tough one. I 1271 01:06:28,560 --> 01:06:30,560 Speaker 1: don't know if I know of any guys off the 1272 01:06:30,600 --> 01:06:32,680 Speaker 1: top of my head, right, I just know that. I 1273 01:06:32,760 --> 01:06:34,600 Speaker 1: just know that there's guys every year that stop up 1274 01:06:34,640 --> 01:06:38,320 Speaker 1: for their country and he usually it helps them propel 1275 01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: their professional career also, which is exciting to you see 1276 01:06:41,600 --> 01:06:43,480 Speaker 1: these young guys come out there and just you know, 1277 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:45,840 Speaker 1: put their heart out there on the line and give it. 1278 01:06:45,920 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: They're all only like nineteen twenty years old. So um, yeah, 1279 01:06:52,200 --> 01:06:56,000 Speaker 1: I really don't know. Right, you got a name read, Yeah, 1280 01:06:56,520 --> 01:07:00,320 Speaker 1: there's a striker for Germany, Demo Warner. Uh you plays 1281 01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:05,800 Speaker 1: in the Germans League for Red Bull, the team the 1282 01:07:05,920 --> 01:07:09,000 Speaker 1: Red Bull team over there. Uh he's a good, good 1283 01:07:09,080 --> 01:07:13,880 Speaker 1: young striker. First World Cup so uh really yeah, he's 1284 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,800 Speaker 1: he's they do the chord for Mexico yesterday. Luzano was 1285 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,600 Speaker 1: he was, uh, kind of everybody he's like the favorite 1286 01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:25,240 Speaker 1: breakout pick. I guess, so he's you know, he's kind 1287 01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:28,960 Speaker 1: of he broke out during his season last year. Um, 1288 01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,360 Speaker 1: you know he did, he did really well. But uh, 1289 01:07:31,680 --> 01:07:34,200 Speaker 1: Timo Werner for for Germany, he's gonna he's gonna be 1290 01:07:34,240 --> 01:07:37,600 Speaker 1: really good. All right. Next question as you know, you've 1291 01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:40,000 Speaker 1: been around Bills fans before. Who do you think have 1292 01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:46,120 Speaker 1: the best fans in the World Cup? Gohead cold man, 1293 01:07:46,200 --> 01:07:50,000 Speaker 1: that's say. That's a tough one too. Though. Every country travels, right, 1294 01:07:50,320 --> 01:07:52,080 Speaker 1: and you can see it, and they all have their chance, 1295 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:56,440 Speaker 1: they get all dressed up and everything. Um yeah, I 1296 01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:57,880 Speaker 1: mean I don't know. You look you look in the 1297 01:07:57,960 --> 01:08:00,680 Speaker 1: games in the stands and just see the flags of 1298 01:08:00,800 --> 01:08:04,520 Speaker 1: the countries that are playing. Right, Um, I like to 1299 01:08:04,640 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 1: I like the Mexico's fans just in their game though. 1300 01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:11,360 Speaker 1: They had a bunch of very cool outfits. Crazy in 1301 01:08:11,440 --> 01:08:14,240 Speaker 1: that game, right, That's what I'm saying that you know, people, 1302 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:16,559 Speaker 1: all the people find from Mexico to the Russia, it's crazy. 1303 01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:19,760 Speaker 1: It's not like it's way easier for the European teams 1304 01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,360 Speaker 1: to travel. Then you get some of these other countries 1305 01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,840 Speaker 1: like that that have to travel so far. And you know, 1306 01:08:24,120 --> 01:08:26,880 Speaker 1: it was like eight twenty Mexican fans. The announcers were 1307 01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:30,160 Speaker 1: saying in the stands, wow, which is nuts. Yeah, it 1308 01:08:30,360 --> 01:08:33,160 Speaker 1: was nuts. It was wild. There was huge, they traveled, 1309 01:08:33,200 --> 01:08:37,880 Speaker 1: They traveled very well. Who you think's got some pretty 1310 01:08:37,960 --> 01:08:41,320 Speaker 1: nutty fans in a good way, in a good way. Yeah, 1311 01:08:42,960 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with uh Iceland, Um, they're there, icelandic 1312 01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:51,479 Speaker 1: you know clap chance that they do is I mean, 1313 01:08:51,680 --> 01:08:53,519 Speaker 1: it gives you chills every time they do it. And 1314 01:08:53,680 --> 01:08:57,720 Speaker 1: I I saw something this morning that had ninety nine 1315 01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:01,799 Speaker 1: percent of the people that were watching TV in Iceland 1316 01:09:02,640 --> 01:09:07,240 Speaker 1: yesterday or Saturday. I guess it was. Um, we're watching 1317 01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,720 Speaker 1: that game. So I mean in terms of level of commitment, Uh, 1318 01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, I think Iceland takes the cake. All right, 1319 01:09:15,320 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 1: last one, guys, before we let you go Cup champ. 1320 01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: Who do you have as as the Cup champion here? 1321 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,360 Speaker 1: I mean we go in Belgium in Germany, because that's 1322 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:24,200 Speaker 1: who you're rooting for. You think somebody else is gonna 1323 01:09:24,200 --> 01:09:29,920 Speaker 1: win this thing? You got for German. Yeah, I still 1324 01:09:29,920 --> 01:09:33,960 Speaker 1: polling for Germany to win at all. Um, that's only 1325 01:09:34,120 --> 01:09:35,559 Speaker 1: you never know what the world cuts. Because some man 1326 01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:38,040 Speaker 1: of the teams are stepping up that are surprising and 1327 01:09:38,160 --> 01:09:40,040 Speaker 1: other teams aren't playing as well. That's you know, you 1328 01:09:40,120 --> 01:09:43,160 Speaker 1: expect teams, some teams to do that. But uh, I mean, 1329 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:45,679 Speaker 1: based on yesterday, it doesn't look like they're gonna they're 1330 01:09:45,680 --> 01:09:50,400 Speaker 1: gonna be good enough to win if they play like that. Yeah, 1331 01:09:50,439 --> 01:09:54,240 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna go Brazil. You know, I'm really sure. 1332 01:09:54,320 --> 01:09:57,240 Speaker 1: I think Belgium is a is a close second for me. 1333 01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:00,720 Speaker 1: But I mean, you look at the the lineup that 1334 01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:04,439 Speaker 1: Brazil put out yesterday and some of the guys that 1335 01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,240 Speaker 1: they have lined up on the bench to come in 1336 01:10:06,680 --> 01:10:09,840 Speaker 1: to either stub in or rotate as the tournament goes on. 1337 01:10:09,960 --> 01:10:13,400 Speaker 1: It's just it's not fair. So they got their first 1338 01:10:13,439 --> 01:10:17,120 Speaker 1: team particularly just stacked. So uh once they once they 1339 01:10:17,160 --> 01:10:19,759 Speaker 1: get the ball rolling, they're going to be unstoppable. Okay, 1340 01:10:19,840 --> 01:10:22,200 Speaker 1: now I went through this. What was the website? Oh yeah, 1341 01:10:22,200 --> 01:10:24,559 Speaker 1: we went through, uh the five thirty eight dot com 1342 01:10:24,720 --> 01:10:27,720 Speaker 1: site which helps you pick a World Cup team if 1343 01:10:27,760 --> 01:10:30,600 Speaker 1: you know nothing about the World Cup. So I just 1344 01:10:30,720 --> 01:10:32,559 Speaker 1: did it on the air with Thurman before we brought 1345 01:10:32,600 --> 01:10:35,559 Speaker 1: you guys on. And the team that he got they 1346 01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:38,000 Speaker 1: got picked for him was England. So why don't you tell, 1347 01:10:38,240 --> 01:10:40,479 Speaker 1: just just give us your expertise on England guys and 1348 01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:42,479 Speaker 1: what you think their chances are. I know they've been 1349 01:10:42,880 --> 01:10:45,280 Speaker 1: disappointing in the last several World Cups, but Thurman needs 1350 01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:51,080 Speaker 1: a little insight on his newly named team fandom here, Yeah, 1351 01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:54,160 Speaker 1: I think they have a lot of younger guys on 1352 01:10:54,200 --> 01:10:58,439 Speaker 1: their teams. Um So to me, this first game is 1353 01:10:58,479 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: going to be the tilth of what they're gonna do 1354 01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:03,519 Speaker 1: because they could either come out and kill it playing 1355 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:07,479 Speaker 1: come out and be disappointment again. So I really think 1356 01:11:07,520 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 1: it's just gonna be a toss up in this first 1357 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:11,760 Speaker 1: game is going to dictate a lot. Wow read what 1358 01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:14,840 Speaker 1: do you think England? Yeah, yeah, I can second that 1359 01:11:15,800 --> 01:11:18,439 Speaker 1: their striker Harry Kane, he's coming off a really good 1360 01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 1: season for Tottenham Hotspur. And they also have another forward 1361 01:11:23,840 --> 01:11:26,240 Speaker 1: that plays for Man City where he's Sterling. He had 1362 01:11:26,280 --> 01:11:30,040 Speaker 1: a really really strong season for them this year. So 1363 01:11:31,640 --> 01:11:34,920 Speaker 1: watch those are two two big names to watch that 1364 01:11:35,200 --> 01:11:40,160 Speaker 1: they'll really be uh you know, path Path with carrying 1365 01:11:40,200 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: the team this year. Cool. All right, well, we appreciate 1366 01:11:43,240 --> 01:11:45,400 Speaker 1: the World Cup analysis. One last question for both of 1367 01:11:45,439 --> 01:11:47,320 Speaker 1: you guys, because we've been talking about this on the 1368 01:11:47,360 --> 01:11:52,200 Speaker 1: show today. The team culture just seems to be embedded 1369 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:54,559 Speaker 1: in this team now. I mean, it was one thing 1370 01:11:54,640 --> 01:11:57,080 Speaker 1: to build it last year under the in the first 1371 01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,200 Speaker 1: year under coach McDermott, but just watching you guys right 1372 01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:03,840 Speaker 1: out in the practice field, seeing guys staying after there's 1373 01:12:03,880 --> 01:12:07,600 Speaker 1: no there's no reminders anymore. It just kind of happens organically. 1374 01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:13,000 Speaker 1: Why do you think the team culture got embedded and 1375 01:12:13,240 --> 01:12:18,320 Speaker 1: changed for the Betters so quickly here in Buffalo? Um, 1376 01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,640 Speaker 1: there's a couple of couple of reasons for that, in 1377 01:12:20,680 --> 01:12:23,800 Speaker 1: my opinion, one of them is it's it's just really 1378 01:12:23,840 --> 01:12:26,720 Speaker 1: easy to buy in and get behind Coach McDermott and 1379 01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:30,639 Speaker 1: the type of guys that he's brought into the team 1380 01:12:31,320 --> 01:12:34,439 Speaker 1: are like minded like that as well, so with you know, 1381 01:12:34,520 --> 01:12:37,000 Speaker 1: pairing both those together. It's just it's just easy to 1382 01:12:37,560 --> 01:12:40,719 Speaker 1: do and like it just breeds um, you know, compounding 1383 01:12:40,800 --> 01:12:46,880 Speaker 1: success and that work ethic. What about you read, Yeah, 1384 01:12:46,880 --> 01:12:50,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna agree with what Colton said. It's Coach McDermott 1385 01:12:50,120 --> 01:12:52,640 Speaker 1: has made it easy for us to buy in, um 1386 01:12:53,560 --> 01:12:55,360 Speaker 1: to what he's trying to instill in all of us. 1387 01:12:55,439 --> 01:12:59,919 Speaker 1: And I think, uh, you know, enjoying being a fulfilled 1388 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,360 Speaker 1: you with the guys, enjoying spending time with the guys 1389 01:13:03,479 --> 01:13:06,560 Speaker 1: on the team who you're uh you're basically around for 1390 01:13:07,080 --> 01:13:09,200 Speaker 1: you know, so many hours of the day throughout the season. 1391 01:13:09,479 --> 01:13:13,360 Speaker 1: It makes it um, you know one, you know, like 1392 01:13:13,400 --> 01:13:15,680 Speaker 1: I said, fun to be around him, and then two 1393 01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,720 Speaker 1: it makes you want to work harder, uh, you know, 1394 01:13:19,840 --> 01:13:21,920 Speaker 1: to be accountable to everybody else on the team and 1395 01:13:22,040 --> 01:13:24,720 Speaker 1: and make sure that you're doing your job to the 1396 01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:27,959 Speaker 1: best of your ability. All right, guys, listen, we appreciate 1397 01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,000 Speaker 1: the time, especially right after you got your off, your 1398 01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:33,719 Speaker 1: your five six weeks off here. We appreciate you joining 1399 01:13:33,800 --> 01:13:36,560 Speaker 1: us the following Monday of all days to talk a 1400 01:13:36,600 --> 01:13:38,160 Speaker 1: little World Cup with us. That was fun. So we 1401 01:13:38,200 --> 01:13:42,880 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Guys. All right, thanks, thanks for yeah, guys, 1402 01:13:43,120 --> 01:13:47,120 Speaker 1: enjoy the rest of the tournament. It should be fun. Yeah, 1403 01:13:49,200 --> 01:13:53,720 Speaker 1: you had to get it in at the end. Refergusing 1404 01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:55,800 Speaker 1: Colt in shumate with us here on one Bill's Live, 1405 01:13:55,880 --> 01:13:57,639 Speaker 1: talking a little World Cup, just having a little fun 1406 01:13:57,720 --> 01:14:02,600 Speaker 1: with what is the world's most popular tournament. And you 1407 01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:06,000 Speaker 1: heard a lot to say, yeah, well, I mean they 1408 01:14:06,520 --> 01:14:09,280 Speaker 1: they are in it, Like, yeah, I know Colton Schmidt 1409 01:14:09,439 --> 01:14:11,599 Speaker 1: and he might he might kill me when I because 1410 01:14:11,600 --> 01:14:15,240 Speaker 1: I'm saying this, but Colton will go down to um. 1411 01:14:15,640 --> 01:14:18,760 Speaker 1: One of the well known soccer establishments, the Taverns in 1412 01:14:19,040 --> 01:14:23,000 Speaker 1: Buffalo is mess Q up in North Buffalo on hurdle 1413 01:14:23,920 --> 01:14:26,760 Speaker 1: and they get a ton it's like it's known as 1414 01:14:26,840 --> 01:14:29,960 Speaker 1: a soccer but and so people go there and watch 1415 01:14:30,040 --> 01:14:32,560 Speaker 1: World Cup games all the time. And Colton is not 1416 01:14:32,680 --> 01:14:37,760 Speaker 1: a guy that is readily recognizable among Bills players, so 1417 01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:40,200 Speaker 1: he can just kind of sidle in, sit down at 1418 01:14:40,200 --> 01:14:42,400 Speaker 1: the bar and watch the games, you know, and he's 1419 01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:47,200 Speaker 1: not getting bothered by anybody. Yeah right, okay, so yeah, 1420 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,280 Speaker 1: he doesn't have your problem. So he just he can 1421 01:14:49,360 --> 01:14:51,120 Speaker 1: just go and watch games all So he'll go there 1422 01:14:51,160 --> 01:14:53,479 Speaker 1: and watch a ton of games and go with some 1423 01:14:53,560 --> 01:14:56,719 Speaker 1: buds or go with Read, or go with Stephen Hauska 1424 01:14:56,760 --> 01:15:00,240 Speaker 1: who likes soccer also. And those guys bring the soccer 1425 01:15:00,280 --> 01:15:03,200 Speaker 1: ball out to practice because it's very good for their 1426 01:15:03,280 --> 01:15:05,479 Speaker 1: touch on their feet, you know, just juggling the ball 1427 01:15:05,720 --> 01:15:08,160 Speaker 1: or doing stuff like that. So you'll see it and Colton. 1428 01:15:08,240 --> 01:15:10,400 Speaker 1: If you get to the stadium early enough on a 1429 01:15:10,479 --> 01:15:13,400 Speaker 1: game day on Sunday, when the gates open at eleven, 1430 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:16,880 Speaker 1: I think, you go right to your seat and they're 1431 01:15:16,920 --> 01:15:19,160 Speaker 1: still doing warmups on the field, you'll see Colton and 1432 01:15:19,600 --> 01:15:21,960 Speaker 1: House get out there with a soccer ball really yeah, 1433 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:24,880 Speaker 1: and they'll get Micah Hyde involved and they'll start kicking 1434 01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,360 Speaker 1: them around with them. But they do the juggling because 1435 01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:29,200 Speaker 1: they feel it helps with their touch on the ball, 1436 01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:31,600 Speaker 1: especially when you know Colton's got to do like a 1437 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:33,960 Speaker 1: directional punt, you're gonna hit that differently, or when you 1438 01:15:34,040 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: gotta do that Aussee style punt where they dropped the 1439 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:39,240 Speaker 1: point of the football. So there are different things where 1440 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:42,439 Speaker 1: still using the soccer ball will help them with their 1441 01:15:42,520 --> 01:15:44,479 Speaker 1: touch on the ball when they're kicking a football. So 1442 01:15:44,880 --> 01:15:47,200 Speaker 1: it's just really fun to see them kind of incorporate 1443 01:15:47,320 --> 01:15:50,320 Speaker 1: that into their profession, even now, you know, with their 1444 01:15:50,360 --> 01:15:53,040 Speaker 1: soccer days long behind them. I mean how she went 1445 01:15:53,080 --> 01:15:55,519 Speaker 1: to college as a soccer player, couldn't make the team, 1446 01:15:56,160 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 1: and then went to go kick for the football team, 1447 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:01,040 Speaker 1: and then the rest is history became So yeah, but 1448 01:16:01,160 --> 01:16:05,559 Speaker 1: England's your squad. You know what they win. I might 1449 01:16:05,640 --> 01:16:08,840 Speaker 1: get into this. I might get well, you'll be you'll 1450 01:16:08,840 --> 01:16:10,360 Speaker 1: be happy to know they have a very good chance 1451 01:16:10,400 --> 01:16:12,000 Speaker 1: to win. I'll try to get their odds of winning 1452 01:16:12,040 --> 01:16:14,600 Speaker 1: this game, because Tunisia is not considered to be a 1453 01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:22,599 Speaker 1: very strong side. Uh so so exactly. But we've got 1454 01:16:22,680 --> 01:16:24,600 Speaker 1: a step aside. We'll get back to the to the 1455 01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,720 Speaker 1: American football side of things. On the other side of 1456 01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,040 Speaker 1: the break, is Thurman and I take you through the 1457 01:16:30,120 --> 01:16:32,439 Speaker 1: rest of the afternoon here on one Bills live from 1458 01:16:32,479 --> 01:16:46,360 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back on 1459 01:16:46,560 --> 01:16:49,240 Speaker 1: one Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown and 1460 01:16:49,560 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 1: Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas in for the vacationing Steve 1461 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,200 Speaker 1: Tasker and the golfing John Murphy Burf will be back tomorrow, 1462 01:16:57,200 --> 01:16:58,720 Speaker 1: will be in the rest of the week, and I'll 1463 01:16:58,760 --> 01:17:01,200 Speaker 1: be here alongside him to help him out through the 1464 01:17:01,240 --> 01:17:03,040 Speaker 1: week because Steve is on VAK and out of the 1465 01:17:03,120 --> 01:17:07,840 Speaker 1: country per his travel coordinator Thurman Thomas. Um, who's you know, 1466 01:17:07,880 --> 01:17:11,600 Speaker 1: Who's got Steve's whereabouts down to the letter for you know, 1467 01:17:11,840 --> 01:17:13,799 Speaker 1: I know you guys are close, but you know sometimes 1468 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,400 Speaker 1: you guys scare me a little bit. Um eight oh 1469 01:17:16,479 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty to join us one eight eight 1470 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty And as promised, we're getting 1471 01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 1: back to the American side of the football Ledger. We'd 1472 01:17:24,520 --> 01:17:26,439 Speaker 1: had our fun with the way we have to look. 1473 01:17:26,479 --> 01:17:28,280 Speaker 1: I was getting a little sight because now you know, 1474 01:17:28,360 --> 01:17:30,320 Speaker 1: I want to you know, we'll take off a twenty 1475 01:17:30,360 --> 01:17:34,439 Speaker 1: six minutes away for England team. I've always liked about 1476 01:17:34,479 --> 01:17:38,800 Speaker 1: it or the chance, the chants are great and who 1477 01:17:38,880 --> 01:17:43,639 Speaker 1: does that? That's that's Iceland. Remember the Minnesota Vikings had 1478 01:17:43,680 --> 01:17:47,120 Speaker 1: the Viking Class. They do the same thing in Iceland. Really, 1479 01:17:47,160 --> 01:17:50,200 Speaker 1: I mean it's like a real thing, right. So yeah, 1480 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,519 Speaker 1: and Iceland, well, they did really well in the World 1481 01:17:53,560 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 1: Cup four years ago. They had a major upset I 1482 01:17:56,400 --> 01:17:58,599 Speaker 1: can't remember who the heck they beat, and they got 1483 01:17:58,680 --> 01:18:03,280 Speaker 1: to the knockout round and did well there, and like 1484 01:18:03,400 --> 01:18:06,320 Speaker 1: four or five of their players got like major professional 1485 01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:09,080 Speaker 1: contracts based on how the team and how they performed. 1486 01:18:09,680 --> 01:18:12,639 Speaker 1: So this is really a giant It's the biggest stage 1487 01:18:12,720 --> 01:18:14,680 Speaker 1: you can play on in soccer, and if you do 1488 01:18:14,840 --> 01:18:17,720 Speaker 1: well as an individual player, you could make yourself a 1489 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:22,680 Speaker 1: ton of money. I noticed by when I was a 1490 01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,840 Speaker 1: big fan of Pele growing up. So if you have 1491 01:18:26,040 --> 01:18:30,559 Speaker 1: if they call you by like one name, you're big time. Yeah, 1492 01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:33,280 Speaker 1: you are big time. Yea one name guys. Yeah, they 1493 01:18:33,360 --> 01:18:35,840 Speaker 1: usually make a lot of money. That's right, Ronaldo MESSI 1494 01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:39,599 Speaker 1: sure I got you. But eight three five fifty because 1495 01:18:39,920 --> 01:18:43,360 Speaker 1: Thurman and I wanted to discuss this a little bit. 1496 01:18:43,479 --> 01:18:46,200 Speaker 1: It's a program that's going to be airing tonight on 1497 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:49,320 Speaker 1: MSG here for our viewers. At eight pm Eastern Time, 1498 01:18:49,920 --> 01:18:52,759 Speaker 1: as the Top Ten series being put out by Buffalo 1499 01:18:52,800 --> 01:18:57,439 Speaker 1: Bill's Entertainment continues with the Top ten free Agents in 1500 01:18:57,600 --> 01:19:02,599 Speaker 1: Bill's History. Last week was the airing of the Top 1501 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: ten Draft Choices. No Top ten trades, I'm sorry, top 1502 01:19:07,120 --> 01:19:13,040 Speaker 1: ten trades in Bill's History. I like the peerless price 1503 01:19:13,160 --> 01:19:15,559 Speaker 1: sign and trade deal that ended up being Willis McGahee. 1504 01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:17,880 Speaker 1: That was a cool one that got profiled in the 1505 01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:20,559 Speaker 1: Top ten Trades in Bill's History last week. But tonight 1506 01:19:20,920 --> 01:19:22,880 Speaker 1: at eight pm is the debut of the Top ten 1507 01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:26,840 Speaker 1: free agent signings in Bill's History, followed by the Top 1508 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,559 Speaker 1: ten individual player Seasons in Bill's History on the twenty 1509 01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,600 Speaker 1: fifth the following week. Well, no, I'm not on that 1510 01:19:31,760 --> 01:19:36,120 Speaker 1: second list free agent signing. No, no, no, you're not 1511 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:40,160 Speaker 1: unless this is a Dolphin maybe or something. It's not. 1512 01:19:40,280 --> 01:19:42,880 Speaker 1: It's a Bill's list. But you might who know, you 1513 01:19:42,960 --> 01:19:44,479 Speaker 1: might be on the next one, might be on the 1514 01:19:44,560 --> 01:19:47,719 Speaker 1: June twenty fifth one Top ten Individual Seasons in Bill's History. 1515 01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:51,120 Speaker 1: So you know, and and I think you're the perfect 1516 01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:53,080 Speaker 1: person to have here, Therman, because as I mentioned at 1517 01:19:53,080 --> 01:19:56,400 Speaker 1: the top of the show, you know, the true open 1518 01:19:56,600 --> 01:20:01,400 Speaker 1: market free agency really didn't get rolling until about ninety five. 1519 01:20:01,560 --> 01:20:04,800 Speaker 1: It passed in ninety three, you know, uh through the 1520 01:20:04,880 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: CBA with the NFLPA in the NFL, but it really 1521 01:20:07,960 --> 01:20:11,160 Speaker 1: didn't get rolling until like ninety five when people started 1522 01:20:11,720 --> 01:20:14,479 Speaker 1: spending the silly money, you know, the monopoly money started 1523 01:20:14,479 --> 01:20:16,759 Speaker 1: flying around the league and people were making book who Bucks. 1524 01:20:17,160 --> 01:20:19,799 Speaker 1: So with that in mind, there's a lot of guys 1525 01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:22,519 Speaker 1: that are probably going to be on this list that 1526 01:20:22,760 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 1: either a you played with or certainly you watched play 1527 01:20:25,240 --> 01:20:28,479 Speaker 1: here in the Bill's uniform. So, man, if as you 1528 01:20:28,640 --> 01:20:31,320 Speaker 1: think about it at first, blush, maybe from the time 1529 01:20:31,400 --> 01:20:35,680 Speaker 1: you were playing, right, is there a guy that I 1530 01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:37,600 Speaker 1: don't know, maybe got added to the offense when you 1531 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,320 Speaker 1: guys were already pretty darn good and you said, this 1532 01:20:40,439 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: guy's gonna put us over the top, or we signed 1533 01:20:43,320 --> 01:20:45,200 Speaker 1: this guy, we're going to super Bowls. You know what, 1534 01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:47,959 Speaker 1: when you when you think about like the free agent signings, 1535 01:20:48,680 --> 01:20:52,880 Speaker 1: like the first name that came to mind was right Pop. Yeah, 1536 01:20:53,560 --> 01:20:55,760 Speaker 1: that was I think that this was after the run. 1537 01:20:56,040 --> 01:20:57,920 Speaker 1: This was after the Super Bowl run and you know, 1538 01:20:58,040 --> 01:21:01,280 Speaker 1: John Butler's at GM, he's trying to reload, trying to reload. Yeah, 1539 01:21:01,320 --> 01:21:04,960 Speaker 1: and we signed Bryce Pop and that year he gets 1540 01:21:05,120 --> 01:21:08,320 Speaker 1: Defensive Player of the Year. He's I mean, it's pretty 1541 01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:12,560 Speaker 1: nice opposite Bruce exactly, you know what, and you know 1542 01:21:12,720 --> 01:21:15,160 Speaker 1: when that did happen, Bruce was like, you know, that's 1543 01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:18,960 Speaker 1: part of my award too, right, that's Bruce though, right, 1544 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:21,320 Speaker 1: you know this ward to my award. But I mean 1545 01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,479 Speaker 1: he had an I mean he had like I think 1546 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:26,680 Speaker 1: seventeen and a half. Yeah, I remember that and uh 1547 01:21:26,760 --> 01:21:30,200 Speaker 1: and coming from Green Bay to year. Uh. The guy 1548 01:21:30,280 --> 01:21:33,280 Speaker 1: was a great guy. He was one of those like 1549 01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,120 Speaker 1: Chris Spielman type guys. Okay, he was just he's a workaholic. 1550 01:21:37,479 --> 01:21:41,640 Speaker 1: He was an Houra farm boy exactly. And he was 1551 01:21:41,760 --> 01:21:46,120 Speaker 1: in the room watching film, doing this workout, just doing everything. 1552 01:21:46,280 --> 01:21:49,080 Speaker 1: So when you first heard that said that, Bryce pop 1553 01:21:49,439 --> 01:21:52,800 Speaker 1: was the first name that jumped into my mind about 1554 01:21:52,920 --> 01:21:55,639 Speaker 1: wild guy who made an impact on the first year, 1555 01:21:56,720 --> 01:21:59,720 Speaker 1: first year winning Defensive Player of the Year. I would say, 1556 01:22:00,360 --> 01:22:02,120 Speaker 1: if you had to think, and you know, I'm trying 1557 01:22:02,160 --> 01:22:04,840 Speaker 1: to think like between ninety three to ninety four to today, 1558 01:22:05,880 --> 01:22:08,240 Speaker 1: you know, I would say the most surprising free agent 1559 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:10,680 Speaker 1: where the bill's got a whole lot more than they 1560 01:22:10,760 --> 01:22:14,200 Speaker 1: banked on, it's probably Flutie right. I mean when you 1561 01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:16,080 Speaker 1: think about a signing, I mean, could there have been 1562 01:22:16,160 --> 01:22:19,479 Speaker 1: more whole home quarterback signing? Because you know, the team 1563 01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:23,599 Speaker 1: had traded for Rob Johnson. Wade's like, and he's our starter, 1564 01:22:24,240 --> 01:22:25,880 Speaker 1: gave up a one and a four for this cat. 1565 01:22:26,320 --> 01:22:28,720 Speaker 1: He's gonna be starting quarterback. And then a month later 1566 01:22:28,800 --> 01:22:30,519 Speaker 1: it's like, oh, by the way, like this guy here, 1567 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:33,080 Speaker 1: here's Doug Flutie, and you know he's here, and you know, 1568 01:22:33,240 --> 01:22:34,920 Speaker 1: I know you guys have heard of him before, Heisman 1569 01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:36,960 Speaker 1: Trophy winner, and you know, did some stuff up in 1570 01:22:36,960 --> 01:22:40,760 Speaker 1: the seat, you know, and so you know, because I 1571 01:22:40,880 --> 01:22:43,920 Speaker 1: think we all said, well, they already said Rob's the starter, 1572 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,479 Speaker 1: all right, it's nice to have Flutie here. I think 1573 01:22:46,479 --> 01:22:50,040 Speaker 1: it was thirty three already, so okay, sure, you know, 1574 01:22:50,120 --> 01:22:52,320 Speaker 1: put him on the roster, you know, and then they start, 1575 01:22:52,520 --> 01:22:56,920 Speaker 1: you guys, starting three. Rob gets hurt. Seems like the 1576 01:22:56,960 --> 01:23:00,519 Speaker 1: wheels are falling off before because the time he had 1577 01:23:00,600 --> 01:23:03,679 Speaker 1: signed his contract, didn't he yes, yeah, he had already 1578 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:07,439 Speaker 1: signed the big already signed a big money deal. So 1579 01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:09,960 Speaker 1: it was all put to bed. Uh. And then I 1580 01:23:10,000 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 1: can't remember which injury it was, whether the one where 1581 01:23:12,200 --> 01:23:14,400 Speaker 1: Rob fell on the point of the football and separated 1582 01:23:14,439 --> 01:23:16,439 Speaker 1: his rib cartilage. You remember that one. It's just the 1583 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,320 Speaker 1: most freakish injuries that guy ever had. I still convinced 1584 01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,800 Speaker 1: is because they guy didn't have enough meat on his bones. Yeah, 1585 01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:26,680 Speaker 1: it's like training camp. Well, slipping on the mats that 1586 01:23:26,760 --> 01:23:28,960 Speaker 1: might have him beat that that one. That's not even 1587 01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,280 Speaker 1: in a game, that's going from one practice field to 1588 01:23:31,360 --> 01:23:33,519 Speaker 1: the other. I think he's got rob beat on that one. 1589 01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:36,439 Speaker 1: So I'll give it to to Cobb on that that. 1590 01:23:36,640 --> 01:23:40,920 Speaker 1: That is awful. I mean, come on, really, come on, Sorry, sorry, 1591 01:23:40,920 --> 01:23:45,920 Speaker 1: I didn't that was crazy. So he's out flute, he 1592 01:23:46,000 --> 01:23:47,800 Speaker 1: comes in and that Colds game, You guys win the 1593 01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:50,160 Speaker 1: Colds game, and then the next week's the Jacksonville game 1594 01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:52,559 Speaker 1: and then flute Mania starts and the cereal boxes are 1595 01:23:52,600 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 1: out and everything else everything is But you know what 1596 01:23:55,520 --> 01:24:01,200 Speaker 1: who benefited out of that tremendously was Eric Mose. Eric 1597 01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:06,080 Speaker 1: Moles benefited from that tremendously. And you will still talk 1598 01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,880 Speaker 1: about Eric Moles in that situation today. Well, that was 1599 01:24:09,960 --> 01:24:11,840 Speaker 1: his first Pro Bowl year, and I mean, I know 1600 01:24:12,040 --> 01:24:14,479 Speaker 1: after the ninety seventh season, which was his second year, 1601 01:24:14,560 --> 01:24:16,920 Speaker 1: you gave him what four like Marv told you, I 1602 01:24:16,960 --> 01:24:20,000 Speaker 1: need you to moles in the pants here exact because 1603 01:24:20,000 --> 01:24:22,840 Speaker 1: we're gonna need him. Yeah and uh yeah, so yeah, 1604 01:24:23,080 --> 01:24:25,720 Speaker 1: me and Marv had that conversation about Eric, it's time 1605 01:24:25,720 --> 01:24:27,439 Speaker 1: to turn on it's time to turn on the jukes, 1606 01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:30,320 Speaker 1: and you are a first round draft pick and Eric, 1607 01:24:30,439 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 1: you know, and he did obviously turning around. But I 1608 01:24:33,320 --> 01:24:38,000 Speaker 1: tell you what it was those two guys. You know, 1609 01:24:39,080 --> 01:24:41,599 Speaker 1: I was a flute family all the way from college, 1610 01:24:41,760 --> 01:24:45,160 Speaker 1: the Hail Mary Boston College. But um, you know, the 1611 01:24:45,240 --> 01:24:48,400 Speaker 1: guy made plays. Man, he made plays no matter, you know, 1612 01:24:48,600 --> 01:24:50,360 Speaker 1: like you said, he was thirty three, thirty four when 1613 01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:53,640 Speaker 1: he got here. Yeah, the guy made plays. He's I 1614 01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,559 Speaker 1: mean he's he's like fifty now, fifty something. Now he's 1615 01:24:56,600 --> 01:24:59,120 Speaker 1: like playing in uh he's still playing like bar league 1616 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:02,519 Speaker 1: softball and stuff like up in Massachusetts. He's he can't 1617 01:25:02,640 --> 01:25:04,840 Speaker 1: stay off the field. He's got a he's like a 1618 01:25:04,960 --> 01:25:07,400 Speaker 1: true gym rat. He's not happy unless he's on an 1619 01:25:07,400 --> 01:25:10,120 Speaker 1: athletic field. So well, you know, I mean the guys 1620 01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,880 Speaker 1: he probably on the field doing whatever. The guy's never 1621 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,560 Speaker 1: had a drink in his life, so I think that 1622 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:20,479 Speaker 1: has something to do with it. No hard living exactly, 1623 01:25:20,680 --> 01:25:24,320 Speaker 1: no hard living, right. Yeah, so he lives in Um 1624 01:25:24,640 --> 01:25:26,240 Speaker 1: actually I saw him a couple of years. He lives 1625 01:25:26,280 --> 01:25:29,280 Speaker 1: in mal Merlbourne, Florida. Oh he does, okay in Florida 1626 01:25:29,360 --> 01:25:32,599 Speaker 1: now owned the beach. Probably. I think he spends summers 1627 01:25:32,800 --> 01:25:34,800 Speaker 1: still up in Massachusetts. I think that's what it is 1628 01:25:34,800 --> 01:25:36,320 Speaker 1: because he's still got family up there. I think his 1629 01:25:36,360 --> 01:25:41,000 Speaker 1: brother still lives up there. Um. But yeah, And not 1630 01:25:41,080 --> 01:25:42,840 Speaker 1: to bring up a sore subject, but he kind of 1631 01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:45,960 Speaker 1: screwed up that play in the Jacksonville game, did he not? 1632 01:25:46,520 --> 01:25:49,200 Speaker 1: Didn't He didn't He motion the hand off the wrong 1633 01:25:49,280 --> 01:25:51,680 Speaker 1: way and you you were supposed to hit the hand 1634 01:25:51,720 --> 01:25:54,960 Speaker 1: off right on that play. I didn't hear the play. 1635 01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:57,880 Speaker 1: Oh you didn't. I didn't hear the call. I didn't 1636 01:25:57,920 --> 01:26:00,559 Speaker 1: hear the call. And so okay, I'm watching Kevin Williams 1637 01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:04,479 Speaker 1: going motion and come like, oh, we're gonna rint it run, 1638 01:26:05,080 --> 01:26:06,880 Speaker 1: We're going to run to dive play right up the yea. 1639 01:26:07,160 --> 01:26:09,680 Speaker 1: So my first inst thing I see Kevin Williams come 1640 01:26:09,760 --> 01:26:15,600 Speaker 1: in boom, I'm going right there just basically kind of 1641 01:26:15,680 --> 01:26:17,720 Speaker 1: like because I'll tell you what my interpretation of the 1642 01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:22,519 Speaker 1: play was. I just thought that Doug turned the wrong 1643 01:26:22,640 --> 01:26:25,880 Speaker 1: way to give you the dive, and then realized he's 1644 01:26:25,880 --> 01:26:29,240 Speaker 1: already he's sitting there going he's already passed me. Oh crap, 1645 01:26:29,560 --> 01:26:31,639 Speaker 1: I got one thing to do and run up scramble. 1646 01:26:31,920 --> 01:26:35,120 Speaker 1: So it was a broken play. It was okay because 1647 01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:38,160 Speaker 1: I because I thought he's supposed to turn to his right. 1648 01:26:38,479 --> 01:26:39,800 Speaker 1: Oh he did turn to his right. Why do you 1649 01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:45,680 Speaker 1: give me the ball? I don't know it was. I 1650 01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 1: don't think it was at that point. I don't think 1651 01:26:47,800 --> 01:26:50,960 Speaker 1: it was close enough to get big ship. I was 1652 01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:54,120 Speaker 1: already by him or something right next to him. So man, 1653 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:55,960 Speaker 1: I say, but most of that I'm looking at that. 1654 01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:57,960 Speaker 1: That's the first time I thought he always talking no, 1655 01:26:58,280 --> 01:27:01,679 Speaker 1: no way to handle. I didn't not here the play. Yeah, 1656 01:27:01,760 --> 01:27:04,120 Speaker 1: so I just want on my first thing. Okay, there's 1657 01:27:04,120 --> 01:27:06,800 Speaker 1: a little opening right there. I hope he gives it, 1658 01:27:07,000 --> 01:27:08,960 Speaker 1: yeah exactly, and he didn't. Then he ran around his 1659 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,280 Speaker 1: score a touchdown, and all of a sudden, Flutie Flakes 1660 01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:13,680 Speaker 1: was born. Yeah that's right, So Fluty Flakes was born. 1661 01:27:13,920 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: But like I said, you know, he was man. He 1662 01:27:16,600 --> 01:27:18,360 Speaker 1: was out there. He was a winner. I mean, he 1663 01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:20,479 Speaker 1: was going to do everything he possibly could to win 1664 01:27:20,560 --> 01:27:24,000 Speaker 1: football games. And like I said earlier. Eric Moles benefited 1665 01:27:24,080 --> 01:27:27,559 Speaker 1: from that. I was his first tremendously and we used 1666 01:27:27,560 --> 01:27:30,760 Speaker 1: to break the huddle no matter what it was. Doug 1667 01:27:30,800 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 1: would always say, I'm looking for you Eric, I'm looking 1668 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:36,519 Speaker 1: for you Eric, which is which is kind of the 1669 01:27:36,560 --> 01:27:40,320 Speaker 1: opposite of right here, bro, right right here, Bro Andre Andre, 1670 01:27:40,479 --> 01:27:42,680 Speaker 1: kind of breaking the huddle going like boy, it's just 1671 01:27:42,920 --> 01:27:46,760 Speaker 1: changed dramatically. Yeah, I'm not having gym back there. You know, 1672 01:27:47,080 --> 01:27:51,479 Speaker 1: I'm looking for you Eric. That's awesome. Uh. We could 1673 01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: talk about some of the other free agents, uh as 1674 01:27:54,240 --> 01:27:56,920 Speaker 1: we get through it, but um, some other names come 1675 01:27:57,000 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 1: to mind. Ted Washington's a guy that did not come 1676 01:27:59,760 --> 01:28:01,360 Speaker 1: in here with a lot of fan fair at all. 1677 01:28:02,000 --> 01:28:03,840 Speaker 1: And you want to talk about why that ninety nine 1678 01:28:03,920 --> 01:28:06,639 Speaker 1: defense was number one in the league. Was the reason. 1679 01:28:06,720 --> 01:28:10,000 Speaker 1: I think Ted's the lynchpin of that defense because teams 1680 01:28:10,120 --> 01:28:13,880 Speaker 1: could not run on you guys at all that year. 1681 01:28:14,000 --> 01:28:16,880 Speaker 1: The guy would take up three blockers. He would take 1682 01:28:16,960 --> 01:28:19,920 Speaker 1: up three blockers. I mean, he was man. You talk 1683 01:28:20,360 --> 01:28:24,719 Speaker 1: mount Ted, that was That's what it was now Washington Washington, 1684 01:28:24,920 --> 01:28:27,280 Speaker 1: I mean he was a guy. I can remember when 1685 01:28:27,520 --> 01:28:30,640 Speaker 1: he first got here and they had to move Corneias 1686 01:28:30,680 --> 01:28:33,960 Speaker 1: to inside. They had to move inside. It was like 1687 01:28:34,080 --> 01:28:35,880 Speaker 1: the first game of the seat. I can't even remember 1688 01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:41,559 Speaker 1: who we were playing. And Corneis was like Ted, Ted, 1689 01:28:41,640 --> 01:28:45,719 Speaker 1: the guards are all on me. Like at halftime, Biscuit 1690 01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:48,559 Speaker 1: was showing like bruises like on his on his arms 1691 01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:51,280 Speaker 1: and everything. He was like, my bad dog, I got you. 1692 01:28:52,760 --> 01:28:57,000 Speaker 1: Second half, Corneias never got touched, never got touched, and 1693 01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:01,880 Speaker 1: made like fifteen tackles. Oh wow, fifth tackles. Cornelius said, 1694 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,479 Speaker 1: I've never seen a man controlling line of scrimmage like 1695 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 1: he'd did after I told him that I was getting 1696 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:09,559 Speaker 1: beat up. I'm telling you, like, I don't know why, 1697 01:29:09,800 --> 01:29:14,760 Speaker 1: but I think he really should get more Hall of 1698 01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:17,360 Speaker 1: Fame type credit because I'm telling you, in that era 1699 01:29:18,200 --> 01:29:22,040 Speaker 1: when the nose tackles were all going three fifty plus, 1700 01:29:22,880 --> 01:29:25,400 Speaker 1: you know, whether you're talking about who was that Green 1701 01:29:25,479 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 1: Bay guy that was big and always took up a 1702 01:29:27,439 --> 01:29:30,120 Speaker 1: ton of space, But you know what I mean, like 1703 01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:32,360 Speaker 1: the big I mean the big nose tackles were in 1704 01:29:32,520 --> 01:29:35,720 Speaker 1: vogue in the mid to late nineties when teams are 1705 01:29:35,760 --> 01:29:39,000 Speaker 1: still running the ball a good deal, and I mean 1706 01:29:39,160 --> 01:29:41,560 Speaker 1: Ted was I don't even think it was close like 1707 01:29:41,720 --> 01:29:47,479 Speaker 1: he was better than anybody, just so dominant. And I 1708 01:29:47,560 --> 01:29:51,320 Speaker 1: mean even late in his career. You know, Belichick signs 1709 01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,920 Speaker 1: him up in New England and he's I mean, he's 1710 01:29:53,960 --> 01:29:57,519 Speaker 1: like three eighty. But he's just standing in there and 1711 01:29:57,840 --> 01:30:01,719 Speaker 1: grinding on people and they can't do anything. You can't 1712 01:30:01,880 --> 01:30:05,200 Speaker 1: move it anything, You could not move this. But here's 1713 01:30:05,240 --> 01:30:07,599 Speaker 1: the thing. He wasn't just a stand in there guy, 1714 01:30:08,240 --> 01:30:10,880 Speaker 1: hold up two people and let the linebackers run and hit. 1715 01:30:11,160 --> 01:30:13,439 Speaker 1: He'd get four or five sacks a year. He'd make 1716 01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:16,040 Speaker 1: tackles for losses on running back and they talk about 1717 01:30:16,160 --> 01:30:20,080 Speaker 1: move the pocket. He did, Yeah, he did. He did 1718 01:30:20,160 --> 01:30:23,519 Speaker 1: an excellent job. Like I'm with you, I don't think 1719 01:30:23,560 --> 01:30:26,360 Speaker 1: he gets enough recognition around the league as a whole 1720 01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:31,080 Speaker 1: when you talk about run stoppers right there in the middle. 1721 01:30:31,560 --> 01:30:33,519 Speaker 1: He wanted not flash. He just wanted to know it's 1722 01:30:33,520 --> 01:30:36,479 Speaker 1: not flash. And who would want that job? Yeah, first 1723 01:30:36,520 --> 01:30:38,599 Speaker 1: of all, not a lot of people would want that job. 1724 01:30:39,040 --> 01:30:40,680 Speaker 1: He did it better. I think he did it better 1725 01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:43,519 Speaker 1: than any Nosac would ever played the game. And yeah, 1726 01:30:43,640 --> 01:30:45,720 Speaker 1: and I was thinking he went to a couple of 1727 01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:47,599 Speaker 1: Pro Bowls in a Bill's uniform. I think he went 1728 01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:49,800 Speaker 1: to one more before he was done before his career 1729 01:30:49,920 --> 01:30:51,840 Speaker 1: was over. He played till he was almost forty years old. 1730 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,760 Speaker 1: He played till he was thirty eight years old. And 1731 01:30:53,880 --> 01:30:56,120 Speaker 1: for a man that big, like all that weight and 1732 01:30:56,520 --> 01:30:59,519 Speaker 1: pressure on those joints, to play that long, that many downs, 1733 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,160 Speaker 1: that many games, it was impressive. I mean, just the 1734 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:05,960 Speaker 1: body of work that he put together, it was downright impressive. 1735 01:31:06,000 --> 01:31:08,800 Speaker 1: But it was a comedian. Oh well yeah, but he 1736 01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:14,599 Speaker 1: maybe maybe with maybe with his teammates. But like you'd 1737 01:31:14,640 --> 01:31:16,280 Speaker 1: want to go up and ask Ted for an interview 1738 01:31:16,320 --> 01:31:19,040 Speaker 1: because he's playing good, and he'd have this I mean, yeah, 1739 01:31:19,320 --> 01:31:22,280 Speaker 1: if you knew him, you knew that was just a front. 1740 01:31:22,600 --> 01:31:24,200 Speaker 1: But if you didn't know him as a member of 1741 01:31:24,240 --> 01:31:26,200 Speaker 1: the media, and you're you know, you're somebody like me 1742 01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:29,439 Speaker 1: five to seven, a buck sixty five, soaking wet, and 1743 01:31:29,600 --> 01:31:31,240 Speaker 1: you go up to ask Ted for an interview and 1744 01:31:31,280 --> 01:31:33,519 Speaker 1: he's standing at his locker and he'd give you the 1745 01:31:33,600 --> 01:31:36,800 Speaker 1: big bark no, like, hey, Ted, you got a come no, 1746 01:31:37,680 --> 01:31:39,760 Speaker 1: and uh, okay, okay, I'm gonna go over this end 1747 01:31:39,800 --> 01:31:42,040 Speaker 1: of the locker room. I'll see him maybe next year 1748 01:31:42,160 --> 01:31:45,800 Speaker 1: or something. Funny. It's funny. When I used to do that, 1749 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:49,559 Speaker 1: They was stay right there. They wouldn't walk away. Well, yes, 1750 01:31:49,760 --> 01:31:51,920 Speaker 1: but but if you got to know ted and he 1751 01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,720 Speaker 1: saw you around a lot more, you could give it 1752 01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:56,160 Speaker 1: right back to him. So it'd be like no, and 1753 01:31:56,400 --> 01:31:57,920 Speaker 1: be like why not, what's going on? Come on, like 1754 01:31:58,040 --> 01:32:00,320 Speaker 1: three questions, give me a break? And then he kind 1755 01:32:00,360 --> 01:32:01,720 Speaker 1: of like, oh, I'm just messing with you like that 1756 01:32:01,800 --> 01:32:03,559 Speaker 1: kind of thing. So he turned into a big Teddy bear. 1757 01:32:03,960 --> 01:32:08,120 Speaker 1: But I expect him, I expect Flutie and I expect 1758 01:32:08,200 --> 01:32:09,840 Speaker 1: Bryce Bob to all be on that list and I 1759 01:32:09,960 --> 01:32:13,240 Speaker 1: Top ten free Agents in Bill's History, the latest installment 1760 01:32:13,240 --> 01:32:16,360 Speaker 1: from Buffalo Bill's Entertainment in our Top ten series, airing 1761 01:32:16,400 --> 01:32:19,360 Speaker 1: tonight on MSG at eight o'clock. Be sure to check 1762 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,479 Speaker 1: that out right here for our viewing audience eight oh 1763 01:32:22,520 --> 01:32:25,160 Speaker 1: three oh five fifty to join us Thurman and I'm 1764 01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:27,000 Speaker 1: Murph Thurman and I are going to take a break. 1765 01:32:27,040 --> 01:32:29,639 Speaker 1: We'll be back on the other side as we discuss 1766 01:32:29,760 --> 01:32:33,120 Speaker 1: something else of interest that I think will be interesting 1767 01:32:33,200 --> 01:32:34,720 Speaker 1: to you as well. Come back and see us here 1768 01:32:34,760 --> 01:32:36,759 Speaker 1: on the other side One Bills Live from One Bill's 1769 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:49,479 Speaker 1: Drive here on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Chris Brown, Thurman Thomas 1770 01:32:49,560 --> 01:32:52,200 Speaker 1: with you on one Bills Live from one Bill's Drive. 1771 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,000 Speaker 1: As you, our viewers see, shot a new era of field. 1772 01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,840 Speaker 1: Here on a sultry Buffalo day, it's supposed to get 1773 01:32:58,920 --> 01:33:03,920 Speaker 1: up to near night kind here in Buffalo, very humid, um, 1774 01:33:04,120 --> 01:33:06,120 Speaker 1: and then the thunderstorm is supposed to roll through tonight 1775 01:33:06,200 --> 01:33:08,000 Speaker 1: and kind of take the community out of here, which 1776 01:33:08,040 --> 01:33:11,479 Speaker 1: doesn't bother me at all, because give me eighty two 1777 01:33:12,040 --> 01:33:15,400 Speaker 1: somewhere in there, mid eighties, maybe we start getting up 1778 01:33:15,400 --> 01:33:19,679 Speaker 1: around ninety gorgeous. Yeah, yeah, you love it a Texas 1779 01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:22,840 Speaker 1: kid man, You know I'm not doing that. I love 1780 01:33:23,080 --> 01:33:27,200 Speaker 1: my kids doing my kids running the air condition all 1781 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,160 Speaker 1: day right now? Oh they see, yeah, I know, I guess. Uh. 1782 01:33:31,439 --> 01:33:33,240 Speaker 1: One of the I think it was National Grid or 1783 01:33:33,280 --> 01:33:36,439 Speaker 1: one of the electric companies locally, was like already putting 1784 01:33:36,439 --> 01:33:38,760 Speaker 1: the word out, take it easy, yeah, I don't use 1785 01:33:38,840 --> 01:33:42,720 Speaker 1: too much electricity, I know all about. We don't want 1786 01:33:42,760 --> 01:33:45,040 Speaker 1: to brown out or back out brown out. Yeah yea, 1787 01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:50,320 Speaker 1: so okay, fair enough, Well we'll respect it. Set your 1788 01:33:50,360 --> 01:33:52,320 Speaker 1: thermost down an extra degree hire or two so the 1789 01:33:52,400 --> 01:33:54,320 Speaker 1: AC doesn't kick on quite as much. Why not? You 1790 01:33:54,320 --> 01:33:56,960 Speaker 1: went not used to nineties here? We don't usually have that, 1791 01:33:57,479 --> 01:34:00,800 Speaker 1: especially this early in the summer, maybe August. They're not 1792 01:34:00,920 --> 01:34:03,720 Speaker 1: middle of June. Oh stop whining, Yeah, oh no, I'll 1793 01:34:03,760 --> 01:34:06,200 Speaker 1: never now hold on, I'll never complain that it's too 1794 01:34:06,280 --> 01:34:08,519 Speaker 1: hot in Buffalo. Let me just let the record show 1795 01:34:08,640 --> 01:34:10,800 Speaker 1: I hate Winner enough where I will never complain that 1796 01:34:10,880 --> 01:34:14,080 Speaker 1: it's too hot. Okay, So let's let's just get that straight. 1797 01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:17,080 Speaker 1: Eight oh three oh five fifty to join us. We've 1798 01:34:17,080 --> 01:34:19,120 Speaker 1: been talking about a whole bunch of things, team culture, 1799 01:34:19,360 --> 01:34:22,960 Speaker 1: top ten free agents in team history, and there's also 1800 01:34:23,560 --> 01:34:25,920 Speaker 1: a birthday that we have to get to as well. Today. 1801 01:34:26,040 --> 01:34:28,880 Speaker 1: We already well we mentioned in between the break when 1802 01:34:28,880 --> 01:34:30,560 Speaker 1: I was making fun of him a little bit, but 1803 01:34:31,720 --> 01:34:35,320 Speaker 1: one of Thurman's teammates is celebrating a birthday today. Also 1804 01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:37,120 Speaker 1: a fellow Hall of Famer. You care to do the 1805 01:34:37,200 --> 01:34:42,320 Speaker 1: honors here, thurm Yeah, celebrating his fifty fifth birthday, Double 1806 01:34:42,439 --> 01:34:48,040 Speaker 1: nick Day, Yes, double Nickel, numbered seventy eight. Bruce Smith 1807 01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:53,439 Speaker 1: turns fifty five today, So happy birthday, Bruce, the Hall 1808 01:34:53,479 --> 01:34:57,479 Speaker 1: of Famer. Um, are you okay that he still calls 1809 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:01,719 Speaker 1: you squatty? They all call me? Yeah, do they? Yeah? Yeah? 1810 01:35:02,040 --> 01:35:04,320 Speaker 1: How did that? It was Bruce the first one to 1811 01:35:04,360 --> 01:35:08,280 Speaker 1: call him? Originally called so he was the guy that 1812 01:35:08,439 --> 01:35:10,600 Speaker 1: invented the Yeah, he invented the name, and Bruce just 1813 01:35:10,760 --> 01:35:13,519 Speaker 1: kind of just took over. Okay, Yeah, Bruce just ran 1814 01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,519 Speaker 1: how you do it? Because he was the only guy 1815 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:21,960 Speaker 1: I heard call you that in the locker room just 1816 01:35:22,000 --> 01:35:24,080 Speaker 1: being around and whatever. And yeah, I guess I never 1817 01:35:24,160 --> 01:35:27,960 Speaker 1: heard Daryl refer to you. Yeah that's squatty. Okay, yeah, 1818 01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,920 Speaker 1: I guess there's worst things to be called. It is 1819 01:35:31,000 --> 01:35:35,200 Speaker 1: worst things to be called. Yeah. So do you how 1820 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:38,760 Speaker 1: do you think Bruce takes aging? Not? Well, Um, I 1821 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:41,000 Speaker 1: think he takes I mean he's in really good shape 1822 01:35:41,920 --> 01:35:45,679 Speaker 1: old so for fifty five year old. And these guys 1823 01:35:45,680 --> 01:35:48,760 Speaker 1: are probably the two workout warriors, right, would you say 1824 01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:52,360 Speaker 1: time every day? You know, Bruce goes on these diets. 1825 01:35:53,080 --> 01:35:56,000 Speaker 1: You know, he does the lint. I mean he's all 1826 01:35:56,160 --> 01:36:02,360 Speaker 1: do what lit Yeah, just where you don't eat meat? Okay, yeah, 1827 01:36:02,920 --> 01:36:06,679 Speaker 1: he's he's all into it, yeah, fasting, Yeah, he does 1828 01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:09,360 Speaker 1: all that stuff now yeah. Yeah, so I mean he's 1829 01:36:10,320 --> 01:36:12,720 Speaker 1: I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it either, Yeah, 1830 01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:15,840 Speaker 1: but Andre and keeps it. He's been in great shape 1831 01:36:15,880 --> 01:36:17,880 Speaker 1: all his life. I mean they if you look at 1832 01:36:17,920 --> 01:36:21,479 Speaker 1: two guys who look like they can still play today 1833 01:36:22,479 --> 01:36:25,240 Speaker 1: it's one and two with Andrea and Bruce. So those 1834 01:36:25,280 --> 01:36:26,840 Speaker 1: guys are okay going to the pool and taking the 1835 01:36:26,880 --> 01:36:29,439 Speaker 1: shirt off. Okay, Yeah, I'm okay getting in the pool 1836 01:36:29,479 --> 01:36:33,400 Speaker 1: with my shirt on. Yeah, I'm good with that. So 1837 01:36:33,600 --> 01:36:37,200 Speaker 1: what usually happens on the text strings with respect to 1838 01:36:37,280 --> 01:36:41,240 Speaker 1: the birthdays, it's just NonStop back and forth text ripping 1839 01:36:41,280 --> 01:36:43,559 Speaker 1: each other for how old they are ripping each other 1840 01:36:43,600 --> 01:36:46,639 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, I text I watched I haven't 1841 01:36:46,680 --> 01:36:50,000 Speaker 1: text Bruce and each other. But Chris Moore is on 1842 01:36:50,120 --> 01:36:53,960 Speaker 1: the text and he reminded Bruce the day of Hey 1843 01:36:54,120 --> 01:36:57,840 Speaker 1: you remember when you passed out on TV? Those are 1844 01:36:57,880 --> 01:37:01,320 Speaker 1: the type of texts we get. Oh good, heavy birthday, 1845 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:05,000 Speaker 1: but oh yeah, guys been throwing shade at a lot 1846 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:09,320 Speaker 1: of guys on any given date. But sin is Bruce's birthday? 1847 01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:13,800 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's it's been. Oh it's been. But dump 1848 01:37:13,880 --> 01:37:16,040 Speaker 1: a dump. That's you under the bus. Yeah, but dump 1849 01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:20,400 Speaker 1: the dump. All right. Well, we gotta take a break 1850 01:37:20,439 --> 01:37:21,800 Speaker 1: here at the top of the hour. But on the 1851 01:37:21,880 --> 01:37:24,520 Speaker 1: other side, we're gonna talk a little New England Patriots 1852 01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:30,000 Speaker 1: with ESPN dot Com Patriots Insider Mike Reese. He's gonna 1853 01:37:30,080 --> 01:37:32,280 Speaker 1: kind of break down what's been going on all offseason 1854 01:37:32,320 --> 01:37:34,640 Speaker 1: with the Patriots. It's been a series of headlines. We 1855 01:37:34,800 --> 01:37:37,160 Speaker 1: got Tom Brady on Oprah. Now we've got a few 1856 01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,840 Speaker 1: things to discuss with Mike Reese on the other side 1857 01:37:39,920 --> 01:37:42,880 Speaker 1: as we take and finish our tour around the AFC 1858 01:37:43,040 --> 01:37:45,760 Speaker 1: East this offseason. Here on One Bills Live from One 1859 01:37:45,840 --> 01:37:55,439 Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. Hello, Bill's Radio 1860 01:37:55,600 --> 01:38:00,280 Speaker 1: Network storts date. Here is sports update from One Bills Drive. 1861 01:38:00,320 --> 01:38:03,759 Speaker 1: Brooks kept going his second consecutive US Open title on Sunday. 1862 01:38:03,880 --> 01:38:05,760 Speaker 1: He posted a one over for the tournament on the 1863 01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,679 Speaker 1: challenging Shinnecock Hills golf course. The year before at Aaron 1864 01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:13,360 Speaker 1: Hills in Wisconsin, Kept shot sixteen under par to win 1865 01:38:13,439 --> 01:38:15,760 Speaker 1: the US Open. He became the first to repeat as 1866 01:38:15,840 --> 01:38:18,400 Speaker 1: US Open champs. It's Curtis Strange. In nineteen eighty eight 1867 01:38:18,479 --> 01:38:21,519 Speaker 1: and eighty nine, Bill gm Brandon being said z Jones 1868 01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:23,680 Speaker 1: should be ready to go near the start of training camp. 1869 01:38:23,760 --> 01:38:27,320 Speaker 1: Jones underwent knee surgery missed the spring practices. Being said 1870 01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,000 Speaker 1: that Jones will have to play some ketchup on the field, 1871 01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,280 Speaker 1: but has done a good job in the meeting room. 1872 01:38:32,400 --> 01:38:34,519 Speaker 1: Jones has yet to be on a field with aj 1873 01:38:34,680 --> 01:38:38,640 Speaker 1: McCarron and Josh Allen in the practice setting, appearing here 1874 01:38:38,680 --> 01:38:41,040 Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, being did say that Jones has 1875 01:38:41,120 --> 01:38:43,960 Speaker 1: new goals and new motives and is excited, but we'll 1876 01:38:44,000 --> 01:38:48,280 Speaker 1: have to quote earn his way. Steelers QB Ben Roethlisberger 1877 01:38:48,320 --> 01:38:51,200 Speaker 1: said he's not worried about a contract extension right now, 1878 01:38:51,400 --> 01:38:54,080 Speaker 1: and why wouldie. Roethlisberger has two years left on his 1879 01:38:54,160 --> 01:38:57,040 Speaker 1: current deal, with the likes of Aaron Rodgers likely to 1880 01:38:57,120 --> 01:38:59,160 Speaker 1: sign a new deal sooner than him, He's got to 1881 01:38:59,240 --> 01:39:02,160 Speaker 1: know his price tag is only going to go up. However, 1882 01:39:02,280 --> 01:39:05,280 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger did tell ESPN that he's not looking to break 1883 01:39:05,320 --> 01:39:08,240 Speaker 1: the bank and pointed to teammates who need to get 1884 01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:12,280 Speaker 1: paid two like offensive lineman Morkey's Pouncy and Marcus Gilbert. 1885 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:14,960 Speaker 1: World Cup action today, Sweden was able to hold off 1886 01:39:15,000 --> 01:39:18,000 Speaker 1: South Korea with a one nothing result this morning, getting 1887 01:39:18,000 --> 01:39:22,000 Speaker 1: their loan goal on a penalty kick. Belgium trounced Panama 1888 01:39:22,240 --> 01:39:25,720 Speaker 1: three nothing. Romano Lukaku with a pair of goals for 1889 01:39:26,000 --> 01:39:30,040 Speaker 1: Belgium and England and Tunisia kicking off as we speak, 1890 01:39:30,800 --> 01:39:34,280 Speaker 1: and the Sabers making final preparations for the NHL entry 1891 01:39:34,360 --> 01:39:37,320 Speaker 1: Draft on Friday. Holders of the first pick, they're expected 1892 01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:40,479 Speaker 1: to take Swedish defenseman rossmus Dalen. If so, he'd be 1893 01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:43,840 Speaker 1: the first Swedish player to be drafted first overall since 1894 01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:46,320 Speaker 1: Matt Sundeen was the first pick of the Quebec Nordeeks 1895 01:39:46,360 --> 01:39:49,840 Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty nine. Round one of the NHL Draft 1896 01:39:49,920 --> 01:39:53,240 Speaker 1: begins Friday at seven thirty. Rounds two through seven comes 1897 01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:57,160 Speaker 1: Saturday beginning at eleven am. That is your sports update 1898 01:39:57,600 --> 01:40:01,000 Speaker 1: here on one Bills Live with thermant Amasi and Chris Brown. 1899 01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:05,679 Speaker 1: We're filling in for Murph and Steve Tasker. Steve's on vacation. 1900 01:40:05,800 --> 01:40:08,719 Speaker 1: Murph's playing golf as part of the media tournament today 1901 01:40:08,840 --> 01:40:11,880 Speaker 1: run by Buffalo Bill's media relations department. Nice thing they 1902 01:40:11,960 --> 01:40:14,120 Speaker 1: do for the local media. Kind of a thank you 1903 01:40:14,520 --> 01:40:19,000 Speaker 1: extension there. But as promised this hour, we're going to 1904 01:40:19,080 --> 01:40:22,719 Speaker 1: complete our tour around the AFC East. Murph and Steve 1905 01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,680 Speaker 1: started it last week with reports on the Jets and 1906 01:40:25,920 --> 01:40:28,639 Speaker 1: on the Dolphins. It's time now to get a report 1907 01:40:28,680 --> 01:40:32,000 Speaker 1: on the Patriots. And he'll be joining us in just 1908 01:40:32,160 --> 01:40:35,400 Speaker 1: a moment ESPN NFL Nation reporter Mike Reese, who's probably 1909 01:40:35,439 --> 01:40:37,720 Speaker 1: one of the best beat reporters in the business and 1910 01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:40,479 Speaker 1: has been on that beat for quite some time, probably 1911 01:40:40,560 --> 01:40:43,840 Speaker 1: fifteen plus years. Easy, I would say, And with Tom 1912 01:40:43,880 --> 01:40:47,880 Speaker 1: Brady going on Oprah, all the stuff happening with Gronk, 1913 01:40:48,760 --> 01:40:50,680 Speaker 1: you kind of wonder if he'd almost rather just talk 1914 01:40:50,760 --> 01:40:53,840 Speaker 1: plain old football instead of all that drama. Right right, Yeah, 1915 01:40:53,880 --> 01:40:56,639 Speaker 1: I mean it's been drama ever since the Super Bowl 1916 01:40:56,640 --> 01:40:58,519 Speaker 1: will end it really, I mean on all the way 1917 01:40:58,600 --> 01:41:01,720 Speaker 1: up to now. You got Brady Oprah just seen him 1918 01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:06,160 Speaker 1: and his wife Giselle doing a television commercial together. What 1919 01:41:06,320 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 1: did Marvi Levia used to say, when you start talking 1920 01:41:09,439 --> 01:41:13,680 Speaker 1: about retirement, you're already to retire. Well, we'll see if 1921 01:41:13,720 --> 01:41:16,640 Speaker 1: Mike disagrees with that assessment. But there certainly was a 1922 01:41:16,720 --> 01:41:19,040 Speaker 1: lot of stuff that came out of that Oprah interview, 1923 01:41:19,120 --> 01:41:22,559 Speaker 1: and Mike Reas did write a piece on it, kind 1924 01:41:22,600 --> 01:41:25,639 Speaker 1: of reviewing the highs and lows of that lengthy interview 1925 01:41:25,720 --> 01:41:27,760 Speaker 1: that Brady did have on the Oprah Show. And Mike 1926 01:41:27,880 --> 01:41:30,200 Speaker 1: nice enough to join us. Now, Mike, it's Chris Brown 1927 01:41:30,200 --> 01:41:32,439 Speaker 1: along with Hall of Famer Thurman Thomas thanks for joining us, 1928 01:41:32,439 --> 01:41:35,400 Speaker 1: how you doing well, doing great? Thanks for having me, guys, 1929 01:41:35,479 --> 01:41:39,000 Speaker 1: And actually we'll just say really looking forward to October 1930 01:41:39,080 --> 01:41:43,200 Speaker 1: twenty ninth, fifth year in Western New York to see 1931 01:41:43,240 --> 01:41:47,000 Speaker 1: that ceremony for Thurman on Monday night with the Patriots 1932 01:41:47,080 --> 01:41:48,720 Speaker 1: being there. I think I think it could be one 1933 01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,960 Speaker 1: of the best football atmospheres when you look at like 1934 01:41:52,040 --> 01:41:55,040 Speaker 1: the NFL schedule, like pick any game over the course 1935 01:41:55,120 --> 01:41:57,280 Speaker 1: of the season. So I sort of wanted to lead 1936 01:41:57,320 --> 01:41:59,920 Speaker 1: off with that. I'm really excited about that. Yeah, thank 1937 01:42:00,040 --> 01:42:02,040 Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah, it should be good. And uh yeah, 1938 01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:03,639 Speaker 1: I know I didn't even think about that that he'll 1939 01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:05,200 Speaker 1: be here to see that, so that'll be pretty cool. 1940 01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:09,439 Speaker 1: So let's just get the lead story stuff out of 1941 01:42:09,479 --> 01:42:12,519 Speaker 1: the way here, Mike. I'm sure you're tired of having 1942 01:42:12,560 --> 01:42:15,400 Speaker 1: a deal with this, the when, the if, and all 1943 01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:18,639 Speaker 1: of the stuff surrounding Tom Brady, but he only seemed 1944 01:42:19,520 --> 01:42:22,240 Speaker 1: to lend some some fuel to the fire there, Mike. 1945 01:42:22,360 --> 01:42:24,760 Speaker 1: So where where are we coming down on this? I mean, 1946 01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:28,080 Speaker 1: I think we all feel like twenty eighteen is set. 1947 01:42:28,320 --> 01:42:31,439 Speaker 1: You know, he's going to play twenty eighteen, but beyond that, 1948 01:42:31,800 --> 01:42:33,680 Speaker 1: I mean, it really seems to be up in the air, 1949 01:42:33,800 --> 01:42:36,400 Speaker 1: doesn't it. Yeah, And I think that's fair, Chris, and 1950 01:42:36,520 --> 01:42:38,800 Speaker 1: I think you're in a year to year situation now 1951 01:42:39,120 --> 01:42:42,320 Speaker 1: with Tom Brady. You know, prior to this offseason, it 1952 01:42:42,400 --> 01:42:46,000 Speaker 1: had always been you know, m forty five that it's 1953 01:42:46,000 --> 01:42:48,080 Speaker 1: sort of been the marker, right because he had said, 1954 01:42:48,520 --> 01:42:50,439 Speaker 1: you know, that would be his goal to play to 1955 01:42:50,560 --> 01:42:54,040 Speaker 1: forty five. And you know, I thought this this interview 1956 01:42:54,120 --> 01:42:59,840 Speaker 1: sort of highlights one layer that is important to talk about, 1957 01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:02,800 Speaker 1: and it's that, you know, he still loves the preparation, 1958 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:06,520 Speaker 1: so the Monday to Saturday stuff, and he still obviously 1959 01:43:06,680 --> 01:43:11,000 Speaker 1: loves the games. And the third layer is every years 1960 01:43:11,200 --> 01:43:14,280 Speaker 1: one more year away from his children. And that, to me, 1961 01:43:14,640 --> 01:43:17,400 Speaker 1: was what I took out of this interview with Oprah Winfrey, 1962 01:43:17,479 --> 01:43:20,680 Speaker 1: which aired on Father's Day so it naturally had a 1963 01:43:21,120 --> 01:43:25,000 Speaker 1: parenting theme, is how much Tom Brady really values and 1964 01:43:25,120 --> 01:43:28,880 Speaker 1: appreciates his role as a father to three kids who 1965 01:43:28,960 --> 01:43:32,479 Speaker 1: are ten, eight, and five. If I have the ages right, 1966 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,720 Speaker 1: and every year he decides to play, that's one more 1967 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,160 Speaker 1: year he feels like, well, you know what, I might 1968 01:43:38,240 --> 01:43:40,400 Speaker 1: not be able to drive to games as much as 1969 01:43:40,439 --> 01:43:42,879 Speaker 1: I want and be there for them as much because 1970 01:43:43,800 --> 01:43:48,479 Speaker 1: being a full time NFL quarterback takes a full time commitment, 1971 01:43:48,880 --> 01:43:51,040 Speaker 1: and so that to me would be listening to highlights. 1972 01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:56,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel like the impetus for retirement then has 1973 01:43:56,520 --> 01:43:59,519 Speaker 1: changed for him or his family always been the main reason. 1974 01:43:59,600 --> 01:44:02,920 Speaker 1: Do you think that he's even contemplating it? Well, I 1975 01:44:03,000 --> 01:44:05,680 Speaker 1: would say that that I don't think it's changed. I 1976 01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:08,600 Speaker 1: think it's always been part of it. But you know, 1977 01:44:08,760 --> 01:44:12,360 Speaker 1: maybe maybe what's maybe maybe And again I don't know this, 1978 01:44:12,520 --> 01:44:15,439 Speaker 1: I'm just sort of just my opinion. Maybe he's moved 1979 01:44:15,479 --> 01:44:17,840 Speaker 1: off that forty five spot a little bit. You know, 1980 01:44:17,960 --> 01:44:20,760 Speaker 1: that had always been sort of the marker and and 1981 01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:23,200 Speaker 1: I believe the team viewed that as the marker, and 1982 01:44:23,360 --> 01:44:26,120 Speaker 1: that's sort of why they moved the way they did 1983 01:44:26,320 --> 01:44:29,040 Speaker 1: last year, you know, in terms of the whole Jimmy 1984 01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:33,519 Speaker 1: Garoppolo situation. So you know, we all know in this 1985 01:44:33,720 --> 01:44:35,760 Speaker 1: game things can change in an instance. So you can 1986 01:44:35,840 --> 01:44:39,200 Speaker 1: stay forty five all you want. One injury could change everything. 1987 01:44:39,240 --> 01:44:41,479 Speaker 1: I mean, even with Peyton Manning, to me, it looked 1988 01:44:41,520 --> 01:44:43,200 Speaker 1: like he was going to keep going, keep going, and 1989 01:44:43,280 --> 01:44:45,360 Speaker 1: then it's sort of tailed up sharply there from my 1990 01:44:45,479 --> 01:44:48,519 Speaker 1: view at the end, just in terms of his physical health, 1991 01:44:48,600 --> 01:44:50,920 Speaker 1: So you know, maybe just a little bit of a 1992 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:53,400 Speaker 1: move off the spot would be the way I would 1993 01:44:53,479 --> 01:44:56,519 Speaker 1: frame it. Chris, Mike, do you think at this point 1994 01:44:56,720 --> 01:44:59,599 Speaker 1: that we're having this conversation right now about you know him, 1995 01:44:59,640 --> 01:45:01,560 Speaker 1: we're do you think if he would have won the 1996 01:45:01,560 --> 01:45:04,559 Speaker 1: Super Bowl last year that we will be talking about 1997 01:45:04,640 --> 01:45:08,880 Speaker 1: Tom Brady already retire. I don't sermon. I think I 1998 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:13,559 Speaker 1: think he I think he's he was committed to playing, 1999 01:45:13,880 --> 01:45:16,880 Speaker 1: and um, I don't think like the idea that he 2000 01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:20,400 Speaker 1: lost the super Bowl and then said, well I don't 2001 01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:21,920 Speaker 1: want to go out like that, so let me come 2002 01:45:21,960 --> 01:45:24,479 Speaker 1: back for at least one more year. I don't think. 2003 01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,599 Speaker 1: I don't think that was his mindset. And in fact, 2004 01:45:27,000 --> 01:45:29,439 Speaker 1: you know, just to take him at sace value, when 2005 01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:33,200 Speaker 1: we talked to him in the mandatory mini camp on 2006 01:45:33,439 --> 01:45:36,320 Speaker 1: June seventh, he was asked point blank like, did you 2007 01:45:36,479 --> 01:45:39,519 Speaker 1: think at all about retirement, UM, you know, this year? 2008 01:45:39,600 --> 01:45:41,519 Speaker 1: And he said no. And obviously that was after the 2009 01:45:41,560 --> 01:45:43,800 Speaker 1: super Bowl, so I'm not sure it really answers the question. 2010 01:45:43,880 --> 01:45:46,599 Speaker 1: But I think he was pretty when I talked to him, 2011 01:45:46,640 --> 01:45:48,720 Speaker 1: I felt like he was pretty locked in, you know, 2012 01:45:48,800 --> 01:45:51,920 Speaker 1: that he would be back in eighteen twenty eighteen. Regardless, 2013 01:45:52,520 --> 01:45:56,599 Speaker 1: now we only see two games every single play of Brady. 2014 01:45:56,840 --> 01:45:59,519 Speaker 1: I mean, we watched playoff games on television. Obviously you 2015 01:45:59,560 --> 01:46:03,559 Speaker 1: don't miss those, but do you. I mean, there were 2016 01:46:03,640 --> 01:46:07,120 Speaker 1: some throws last year that I saw Tom make, even 2017 01:46:07,160 --> 01:46:10,600 Speaker 1: in the two Bills games, that he just missed on, 2018 01:46:11,520 --> 01:46:15,560 Speaker 1: that he never really missed on in the past. And 2019 01:46:15,760 --> 01:46:18,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if I'm jumping too far ahead and 2020 01:46:18,760 --> 01:46:23,679 Speaker 1: making too big a conclusion here, but is the slight, 2021 01:46:24,240 --> 01:46:28,000 Speaker 1: however slight you want to quantify it, deterioration of his 2022 01:46:28,200 --> 01:46:32,439 Speaker 1: tools beginning to happen seeing him day in and day 2023 01:46:32,520 --> 01:46:35,920 Speaker 1: out the way you do well so, and you're not 2024 01:46:36,040 --> 01:46:38,560 Speaker 1: the only person that said that, Chris, and people have 2025 01:46:38,680 --> 01:46:40,840 Speaker 1: mentioned to me that they feel like they've seen some 2026 01:46:41,120 --> 01:46:44,240 Speaker 1: signs of that. I would have to tell you, And 2027 01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,559 Speaker 1: maybe I'm I shouldn't judge it based on a June 2028 01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:49,880 Speaker 1: mini camp with no pads, because everyone seems to feel 2029 01:46:49,880 --> 01:46:53,400 Speaker 1: pretty good in those. I mean I watched him about 2030 01:46:53,479 --> 01:46:55,600 Speaker 1: June fifth to seventh when he was here for that 2031 01:46:55,720 --> 01:46:58,320 Speaker 1: mandatory mini camp, and I kid you not like if 2032 01:46:58,360 --> 01:47:00,760 Speaker 1: you would have told me, like you're back in two 2033 01:47:00,840 --> 01:47:03,760 Speaker 1: thousand and seven, right, now watching a practice, like I 2034 01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:06,160 Speaker 1: would have probably said, oh, that makes sense. It looks 2035 01:47:06,160 --> 01:47:08,200 Speaker 1: like the same guy you know that I've seen in 2036 01:47:08,280 --> 01:47:10,719 Speaker 1: two thousand and seven, and then you sort of compare 2037 01:47:10,880 --> 01:47:13,840 Speaker 1: him and this probably isn't fair either, But to the 2038 01:47:13,960 --> 01:47:16,720 Speaker 1: next guy, Brian Hoyer, the backup, and then to the 2039 01:47:16,840 --> 01:47:20,559 Speaker 1: next guy, rookie Danny Etling, their seventh round choice out 2040 01:47:20,600 --> 01:47:25,080 Speaker 1: of LSU, and you're sort of like, it's like significant, right, 2041 01:47:25,280 --> 01:47:28,880 Speaker 1: So even even if there was let's just say, like 2042 01:47:29,000 --> 01:47:33,320 Speaker 1: a minimal scale like slide back for him, like, it's 2043 01:47:33,360 --> 01:47:36,680 Speaker 1: still so minimal that it's going to be greater than 2044 01:47:36,800 --> 01:47:39,760 Speaker 1: anything else you'd really put up there that I'm not 2045 01:47:39,840 --> 01:47:43,000 Speaker 1: sure it's even that big of a deal. Now, you know, 2046 01:47:43,160 --> 01:47:45,639 Speaker 1: we had kind of the conversation, you know, talking about 2047 01:47:46,320 --> 01:47:49,320 Speaker 1: Tom Brady, but also another guy, Gronkowski. I mean there 2048 01:47:49,479 --> 01:47:53,000 Speaker 1: was talk about you know, maybe him stepping away, maybe 2049 01:47:53,640 --> 01:47:56,160 Speaker 1: because of his injuries or whatever. You think those two 2050 01:47:56,240 --> 01:48:00,959 Speaker 1: guys probably got together. I mean, obviously Grinko has benefited 2051 01:48:01,000 --> 01:48:03,800 Speaker 1: from Grady being a great quarterback throughout his career. Do 2052 01:48:03,960 --> 01:48:06,800 Speaker 1: you think that they had a conversation and Tom Brady 2053 01:48:06,880 --> 01:48:09,080 Speaker 1: might have said, hey, look, just give me one more year. 2054 01:48:09,800 --> 01:48:12,800 Speaker 1: You Know, it's interesting because in a lot of ways 2055 01:48:12,920 --> 01:48:16,280 Speaker 1: you could see that maybe they are aligned because they 2056 01:48:16,320 --> 01:48:19,200 Speaker 1: took the same approach in terms of staying away from 2057 01:48:19,240 --> 01:48:22,519 Speaker 1: the voluntary workouts, which is very unusual for both of 2058 01:48:22,600 --> 01:48:27,080 Speaker 1: them for that extended period of time. But actually, you know, 2059 01:48:27,360 --> 01:48:30,120 Speaker 1: the only thing I would say that they were aligned 2060 01:48:30,160 --> 01:48:33,479 Speaker 1: in would be that like their training sermon, like they're 2061 01:48:33,600 --> 01:48:36,920 Speaker 1: they're really Tom we know, is into the pliability and 2062 01:48:37,040 --> 01:48:40,519 Speaker 1: this TV twelve method, and he just I think he 2063 01:48:40,680 --> 01:48:43,280 Speaker 1: fails like that that's the best thing for him, and 2064 01:48:43,439 --> 01:48:47,559 Speaker 1: Gronkowski has now adopted that. So for Gronkowski, he actually said, 2065 01:48:47,680 --> 01:48:50,560 Speaker 1: I just didn't want to be at these workouts, you know, 2066 01:48:51,240 --> 01:48:53,040 Speaker 1: because I wanted to take care of my body the 2067 01:48:53,160 --> 01:48:55,360 Speaker 1: way that I wanted to do it. You know, So 2068 01:48:56,160 --> 01:48:58,680 Speaker 1: just from a from an offseason approach, I think they 2069 01:48:58,720 --> 01:49:01,240 Speaker 1: were aligned that way. But in terms of like Gronkowski 2070 01:49:01,560 --> 01:49:05,120 Speaker 1: and retirement, I never really bought it. You know, he 2071 01:49:05,240 --> 01:49:07,160 Speaker 1: said it right after the Super Bowl, like in the 2072 01:49:07,360 --> 01:49:12,200 Speaker 1: aftermath of that devastating loss, when emotions are raw, and 2073 01:49:12,880 --> 01:49:15,639 Speaker 1: you know, I always felt like if the team would 2074 01:49:15,720 --> 01:49:19,599 Speaker 1: sweeten his contract a little bit, or Gronkowski himself would 2075 01:49:19,640 --> 01:49:21,960 Speaker 1: just sort of get away from the grind of a season, 2076 01:49:22,280 --> 01:49:25,240 Speaker 1: his body would start to feel better that he wasn't 2077 01:49:25,320 --> 01:49:28,320 Speaker 1: done yet, like he still has too much to offer 2078 01:49:28,400 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 1: as a player. You know, I just I never really 2079 01:49:31,120 --> 01:49:33,840 Speaker 1: thought that he was seriously considering that, even though to 2080 01:49:34,000 --> 01:49:36,880 Speaker 1: be fair, he said that did cross his mind because 2081 01:49:36,880 --> 01:49:39,479 Speaker 1: he wanted to see how his body would feel before 2082 01:49:39,479 --> 01:49:44,040 Speaker 1: he made that decision. ESPN NFL Nation Patriots reporter Mike 2083 01:49:44,160 --> 01:49:47,439 Speaker 1: Reese joining us on the Subway fresh Take hotline. So, Mike, 2084 01:49:47,560 --> 01:49:50,480 Speaker 1: let's take it a step further. How concerned is Belichick? 2085 01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,880 Speaker 1: And again, getting stuff out of Belichick is easier said 2086 01:49:53,880 --> 01:49:57,320 Speaker 1: than done, But how concerned is he about the succession 2087 01:49:57,400 --> 01:50:01,519 Speaker 1: plant at quarterback? As far as you can discern, I 2088 01:50:01,680 --> 01:50:03,760 Speaker 1: know they have they're in good position as far as 2089 01:50:03,840 --> 01:50:06,120 Speaker 1: next year's draft. They have a lot of extra capital there. 2090 01:50:06,479 --> 01:50:08,559 Speaker 1: I mean, I think they have what three third round 2091 01:50:08,600 --> 01:50:11,400 Speaker 1: picks right and then extra two or something. So I mean, 2092 01:50:11,560 --> 01:50:15,880 Speaker 1: how how to what's the general perception of their succession 2093 01:50:16,000 --> 01:50:19,200 Speaker 1: plan and where it sits? Now? Well, huge topic of 2094 01:50:19,320 --> 01:50:22,920 Speaker 1: discussion here, obviously going back to Jimmy Garoppolo, because they 2095 01:50:23,000 --> 01:50:26,719 Speaker 1: had the guy right and then what happens Tom Brady 2096 01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:30,360 Speaker 1: outlast the succession plan, which is just sort of amazing 2097 01:50:30,439 --> 01:50:33,240 Speaker 1: when you think about it. So, you know, they obviously 2098 01:50:33,520 --> 01:50:36,280 Speaker 1: felt like, you know, they made the decision to move on. 2099 01:50:36,439 --> 01:50:40,000 Speaker 1: However they came to that, and obviously that was dissected 2100 01:50:40,280 --> 01:50:44,080 Speaker 1: considerably last year when they did it. And so now 2101 01:50:44,600 --> 01:50:47,200 Speaker 1: you look at it and you have Brian Hoyer, who 2102 01:50:47,320 --> 01:50:50,320 Speaker 1: is the veteran backup who you know, I would compare 2103 01:50:50,360 --> 01:50:52,760 Speaker 1: them a little bit to Ryan Fitzpatrick, you know, just 2104 01:50:52,920 --> 01:50:55,760 Speaker 1: in terms of a guy that you know, maybe if 2105 01:50:55,800 --> 01:50:57,800 Speaker 1: you need to him to start a couple of games, 2106 01:50:57,920 --> 01:51:00,680 Speaker 1: you feel like he could keep your competitive is, keep 2107 01:51:00,760 --> 01:51:03,240 Speaker 1: you afloat. But maybe if you have to rely on 2108 01:51:03,400 --> 01:51:06,200 Speaker 1: them for extended period of time, that's maybe not the 2109 01:51:06,280 --> 01:51:09,360 Speaker 1: most ideal scenario. So that's sort of the view there. 2110 01:51:09,520 --> 01:51:12,599 Speaker 1: And then they drafted Danny Etling in the seventh round 2111 01:51:13,000 --> 01:51:16,479 Speaker 1: out of LSU, and he's a guy that reminds me 2112 01:51:16,600 --> 01:51:19,160 Speaker 1: a lot of Matt Castle when they drafted him in 2113 01:51:19,200 --> 01:51:21,759 Speaker 1: the seventh round in two thousand and five out of USC. 2114 01:51:22,280 --> 01:51:24,439 Speaker 1: You know, maybe a little bit under the radar from 2115 01:51:24,479 --> 01:51:28,000 Speaker 1: a college perspective, but they see some traits that they 2116 01:51:28,080 --> 01:51:30,840 Speaker 1: like that they want to develop and maybe a year 2117 01:51:30,960 --> 01:51:33,160 Speaker 1: from now, they say, maybe he could be like a 2118 01:51:33,240 --> 01:51:36,240 Speaker 1: Matt Castle who in two thousand and eight help them 2119 01:51:36,280 --> 01:51:39,360 Speaker 1: win eleven games. So that's sort of where they are now. 2120 01:51:39,479 --> 01:51:42,280 Speaker 1: And you mentioned it, Chris with Chips next year, that 2121 01:51:42,400 --> 01:51:44,360 Speaker 1: if they really like a young guy in the draft, 2122 01:51:44,479 --> 01:51:47,760 Speaker 1: that maybe they can maneuver to get it. Although we 2123 01:51:47,840 --> 01:51:50,600 Speaker 1: should say, and this is Bill's fans, notice well, the 2124 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:54,840 Speaker 1: quarterback class next year doesn't look at this point as 2125 01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,759 Speaker 1: rich in terms of top level talent as many viewed 2126 01:51:59,280 --> 01:52:01,680 Speaker 1: this year's class. All right, so now they were through 2127 01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,240 Speaker 1: all of that, Mike, let's get on the field where 2128 01:52:04,360 --> 01:52:06,519 Speaker 1: you know, in terms of stuff that went down in 2129 01:52:06,600 --> 01:52:10,000 Speaker 1: the spring and developed here, you know, knowing some of 2130 01:52:10,040 --> 01:52:12,720 Speaker 1: the holes that the Patriots are looking to fill. Nate 2131 01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:14,920 Speaker 1: Solder obviously a big hole to fill at left tackle 2132 01:52:15,000 --> 01:52:18,360 Speaker 1: with him. Now with the Giants, I'm seeing stuff about 2133 01:52:18,560 --> 01:52:20,719 Speaker 1: Trent Brown. Is he going to get the first crack 2134 01:52:21,040 --> 01:52:24,000 Speaker 1: there at left tackle? It looks like at this point, well, 2135 01:52:24,080 --> 01:52:26,960 Speaker 1: in the three days of mandatory minicamp, it was Trent 2136 01:52:27,080 --> 01:52:29,599 Speaker 1: Brown at left tackle, and then it was their first 2137 01:52:29,680 --> 01:52:34,080 Speaker 1: round pick Isaiah Wynn out of Georgia at left guard. 2138 01:52:34,280 --> 01:52:37,760 Speaker 1: Now Win is also a left tackle. He played left 2139 01:52:37,760 --> 01:52:41,280 Speaker 1: tackle at Georgia. You know, obviously in the I think 2140 01:52:41,320 --> 01:52:44,040 Speaker 1: what many people feel is the best conference in college football, 2141 01:52:44,120 --> 01:52:47,479 Speaker 1: the SEC at a high level. What's interesting to watch 2142 01:52:47,560 --> 01:52:51,080 Speaker 1: those two guys is, you know, physically they're just so different. 2143 01:52:51,160 --> 01:52:54,559 Speaker 1: Like Trent Brown is a mammoth six foot eight three 2144 01:52:54,600 --> 01:52:56,600 Speaker 1: at listed at three hundred and fifty five pounds. He 2145 01:52:56,680 --> 01:53:01,160 Speaker 1: blocks out the sun. Isaiah Wynn does it differently, like 2146 01:53:01,400 --> 01:53:04,760 Speaker 1: six two and four eighths and so he's a little 2147 01:53:04,760 --> 01:53:08,439 Speaker 1: bit smaller for your traditional left tackle and much lighter 2148 01:53:08,479 --> 01:53:11,240 Speaker 1: than three fifty five. So I think they'll let those 2149 01:53:11,280 --> 01:53:13,800 Speaker 1: two guys sort of compete and see how it looks 2150 01:53:14,240 --> 01:53:16,920 Speaker 1: um you know, over camp, and that would be a 2151 01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:20,200 Speaker 1: huge storyline, a huge hole to watch to see how 2152 01:53:20,240 --> 01:53:24,040 Speaker 1: they fill it. Oh yeah, Chris over here, give me 2153 01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:27,040 Speaker 1: some mourners for whatever. Trying to get Yeah, he's over here, 2154 01:53:27,160 --> 01:53:29,280 Speaker 1: like talking like you should ask him this question or whatever. 2155 01:53:29,560 --> 01:53:32,120 Speaker 1: But a little different from the huddle right right exactly. 2156 01:53:32,680 --> 01:53:35,680 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know, called audible, dude, would you please? Uh, 2157 01:53:36,120 --> 01:53:40,880 Speaker 1: you know, Matt Patricia's gone is and I haven't seen anything. 2158 01:53:41,080 --> 01:53:44,400 Speaker 1: I don't know who's a new defensive coordinator or is 2159 01:53:45,080 --> 01:53:48,880 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick stepping more into that role now? So they did. 2160 01:53:48,920 --> 01:53:51,880 Speaker 1: They actually don't name a coordinator. And this is actually 2161 01:53:51,960 --> 01:53:55,120 Speaker 1: something Bill Belichick has done over the years when when 2162 01:53:55,240 --> 01:53:58,599 Speaker 1: his coordinators leave, he usually waits one year to give 2163 01:53:58,680 --> 01:54:01,960 Speaker 1: them the title. He did that with at Patricia years ago. 2164 01:54:02,040 --> 01:54:04,519 Speaker 1: He did it with Josh McDaniels when he first was 2165 01:54:04,600 --> 01:54:08,120 Speaker 1: taking over for Charlie Weiss. He did it for Bill O'Brien. So, 2166 01:54:08,520 --> 01:54:11,559 Speaker 1: but the person calling the defense, it's Brian Flores. They're 2167 01:54:11,680 --> 01:54:15,519 Speaker 1: linebackers coach. He's thirty seven years old. And when I 2168 01:54:15,600 --> 01:54:18,040 Speaker 1: was watching the mini camp practices, he had the headset 2169 01:54:18,120 --> 01:54:20,719 Speaker 1: on and he was clearly in command and the players, 2170 01:54:20,760 --> 01:54:23,519 Speaker 1: they've even sort of referenced him as the de facto 2171 01:54:24,040 --> 01:54:27,360 Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. You know, one thing I want to see Thurman, 2172 01:54:27,680 --> 01:54:30,200 Speaker 1: is does the defense look any different? Like it's not 2173 01:54:30,280 --> 01:54:33,560 Speaker 1: going to be a different scheme per se, because really 2174 01:54:33,600 --> 01:54:37,920 Speaker 1: it's Belichick's scheme and it's been that for nineteen years now. 2175 01:54:38,320 --> 01:54:40,920 Speaker 1: And Brian Flores has said, as you're still going to 2176 01:54:41,040 --> 01:54:43,320 Speaker 1: two gap at the line of scrimmage, you know you 2177 01:54:43,520 --> 01:54:47,080 Speaker 1: still want bigger linebackers, You're going to be multiple in 2178 01:54:47,240 --> 01:54:51,440 Speaker 1: what you do but Dante Hytower, one of their captains, 2179 01:54:51,520 --> 01:54:53,760 Speaker 1: the linebacker, said, you know what they've seen in the 2180 01:54:54,160 --> 01:54:57,880 Speaker 1: spring practices is it seems a little more aggressive, you know, 2181 01:54:58,000 --> 01:54:59,880 Speaker 1: and maybe they're gonna get after it a little more. 2182 01:55:00,320 --> 01:55:03,440 Speaker 1: And that would be music to the Patriots fans, who 2183 01:55:03,840 --> 01:55:06,320 Speaker 1: know the last vision they had was at Super Bowl 2184 01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,880 Speaker 1: when they really struggled to generate pressure and weren't very 2185 01:55:09,920 --> 01:55:12,760 Speaker 1: aggressive defensively in that game. All right, So we're talking 2186 01:55:12,800 --> 01:55:17,000 Speaker 1: to Mike Race, ESPN NFL Nation Patriots beat reporter and 2187 01:55:17,600 --> 01:55:19,880 Speaker 1: he's here with us on the subway fresh Take Hotline, 2188 01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:21,040 Speaker 1: and I want to kind of go with a little 2189 01:55:21,040 --> 01:55:23,200 Speaker 1: bit of a lightning round here, Mike, so because our 2190 01:55:23,240 --> 01:55:25,840 Speaker 1: time's growing shortly quick. But all right, so I'm gonna 2191 01:55:25,920 --> 01:55:28,280 Speaker 1: give you a rundown and you give me your impressions 2192 01:55:28,280 --> 01:55:31,480 Speaker 1: of everything. What does it look like Jordan Matthews role 2193 01:55:31,640 --> 01:55:34,280 Speaker 1: is going to be the former Bills wide receiver? Is 2194 01:55:34,360 --> 01:55:38,480 Speaker 1: Gronkin again an extension before training camp? What's going on 2195 01:55:38,640 --> 01:55:40,840 Speaker 1: with Derek Rivers? Is he ready to bounce back and 2196 01:55:40,960 --> 01:55:44,680 Speaker 1: make an impact? And just your thoughts on Brian Dable 2197 01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,960 Speaker 1: now that he's a play caller for the Bills as 2198 01:55:47,000 --> 01:55:49,800 Speaker 1: an oc All right, here's the rapid fire, hurry up 2199 01:55:49,840 --> 01:55:53,240 Speaker 1: offense edition. Jordan Matthews, one of the first players on 2200 01:55:53,320 --> 01:55:57,160 Speaker 1: the field each spring practice that I watched, going to 2201 01:55:57,240 --> 01:56:01,360 Speaker 1: benefit most likely from Julian Edelman's four games suspension pending 2202 01:56:01,400 --> 01:56:04,520 Speaker 1: appeal to open the season. Looks like a receiver that 2203 01:56:04,560 --> 01:56:07,320 Speaker 1: would be like a top four guy for them. Will 2204 01:56:07,360 --> 01:56:11,800 Speaker 1: Gronkowski get a contract extension. I believe it will happen. 2205 01:56:11,920 --> 01:56:14,560 Speaker 1: It's just a matter of when. Just not sure it'll 2206 01:56:14,560 --> 01:56:17,840 Speaker 1: be before training camp because he hasn't been around and 2207 01:56:18,000 --> 01:56:20,880 Speaker 1: usually they want their guys around before they reward him. 2208 01:56:20,960 --> 01:56:24,360 Speaker 1: That's just my speculation. Derek Rivers, top draft pick last 2209 01:56:24,440 --> 01:56:27,520 Speaker 1: year out of Youngstown State, a third rounder, missed all 2210 01:56:27,600 --> 01:56:31,040 Speaker 1: last year with a torn acl fully cleared. It looks 2211 01:56:31,040 --> 01:56:34,160 Speaker 1: like a situational pass rusher just to start. They need 2212 01:56:34,240 --> 01:56:36,760 Speaker 1: to generate more heat than the quarterbacks. That's a good addition. 2213 01:56:37,000 --> 01:56:40,160 Speaker 1: And Brian day Ball wanted the all time in my opinion, 2214 01:56:40,320 --> 01:56:44,360 Speaker 1: great guys in football first and foremost, and excited to 2215 01:56:44,360 --> 01:56:47,160 Speaker 1: see him back in a play calling role. I believe 2216 01:56:47,240 --> 01:56:49,640 Speaker 1: that he'll get hell Mac He'll look at his talent 2217 01:56:49,880 --> 01:56:53,240 Speaker 1: and he'll say, how do we maximize what we have here, 2218 01:56:53,440 --> 01:56:56,840 Speaker 1: and we'll more far attack around the talents of our players. 2219 01:56:56,920 --> 01:56:59,000 Speaker 1: We won't be so rigid in what we do, and 2220 01:56:59,120 --> 01:57:01,920 Speaker 1: we'll also have quite a bit of tempo because tempo 2221 01:57:02,080 --> 01:57:04,000 Speaker 1: is big for Brian dave Ball. All right, well, that 2222 01:57:04,080 --> 01:57:05,560 Speaker 1: was a very good job there. Like I'm gonna give 2223 01:57:05,600 --> 01:57:07,440 Speaker 1: you one quick bonus one because I saw you writing 2224 01:57:07,440 --> 01:57:11,080 Speaker 1: about j. C. Jackson, the undrafted corner. You really like him. 2225 01:57:11,120 --> 01:57:12,360 Speaker 1: How do you think he has a chance to be 2226 01:57:12,400 --> 01:57:14,680 Speaker 1: a situational guy or is he going to push for 2227 01:57:15,240 --> 01:57:18,920 Speaker 1: something more than that? It's so interesting, undrafted free agent 2228 01:57:19,040 --> 01:57:21,320 Speaker 1: out of Maryland, and this is the spot where Malcolm 2229 01:57:21,360 --> 01:57:24,120 Speaker 1: Butler had played the last three years, you know, other 2230 01:57:24,200 --> 01:57:26,400 Speaker 1: than the Super Bowl, of course, which is another story 2231 01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:28,680 Speaker 1: in and of itself. But you know who's going to 2232 01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:32,200 Speaker 1: fill that spot opposite Stefan Gilmour. J C. Jackson's getting 2233 01:57:32,200 --> 01:57:34,760 Speaker 1: all these reps in these spring practices. Part of that 2234 01:57:34,920 --> 01:57:37,400 Speaker 1: was injuries to others, but he seemed to account well 2235 01:57:37,440 --> 01:57:39,880 Speaker 1: for himself. Chris, So I look always look at it 2236 01:57:39,960 --> 01:57:42,360 Speaker 1: from a coaching perspective. I know the way they look 2237 01:57:42,400 --> 01:57:44,400 Speaker 1: at it. They say, hey, it looks good right now, 2238 01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,400 Speaker 1: let's keep sort of throwing it at him and see 2239 01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:50,760 Speaker 1: how he responds, and if he keeps stacking days one 2240 01:57:50,840 --> 01:57:52,960 Speaker 1: after the other, I do think he's got a chance 2241 01:57:53,040 --> 01:57:55,880 Speaker 1: to make the team. All right, Mike, listen, we kept 2242 01:57:55,920 --> 01:57:57,840 Speaker 1: your way longer than I thought we would. We thank 2243 01:57:57,880 --> 01:57:59,840 Speaker 1: you for all the insight. Thanks for bringing us up 2244 01:57:59,880 --> 01:58:02,760 Speaker 1: to speed on one of the Bill's division rivals in 2245 01:58:02,800 --> 01:58:05,080 Speaker 1: New England, Patriots. We thank you for doing it all right. 2246 01:58:05,160 --> 01:58:08,040 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me Christy. Thanks all right, take it easy. 2247 01:58:08,120 --> 01:58:11,360 Speaker 1: That's Mike Reas from ESPN dot com. He's been covering 2248 01:58:11,400 --> 01:58:13,240 Speaker 1: the Patriots for years, one of the best in the 2249 01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:16,160 Speaker 1: business at doing it. If you need any Patriots news, 2250 01:58:16,240 --> 01:58:18,240 Speaker 1: just follow him on Twitter because he's got his ear 2251 01:58:18,320 --> 01:58:20,240 Speaker 1: to the ground on the whole thing. And you want 2252 01:58:20,240 --> 01:58:23,879 Speaker 1: to talk about a competitive market, it's that Boston slash 2253 01:58:24,280 --> 01:58:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, Providence, New England market, because everybody's trying to 2254 01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,360 Speaker 1: get the latest news on the Patriots. So he's battling, 2255 01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:34,600 Speaker 1: like twenty one other reporters for the most current news 2256 01:58:34,680 --> 01:58:36,920 Speaker 1: on the team, and he's one of the best at 2257 01:58:37,000 --> 01:58:40,720 Speaker 1: breaking it down and his analysis in games. I don't 2258 01:58:40,760 --> 01:58:42,600 Speaker 1: know if there's a better guy doing it like he, 2259 01:58:42,720 --> 01:58:45,560 Speaker 1: really you can tell that he's passionate about the work 2260 01:58:45,680 --> 01:58:47,680 Speaker 1: that he does, and that's why I just respect him 2261 01:58:47,720 --> 01:58:51,000 Speaker 1: so much as a colleague in this business. At Mike 2262 01:58:51,120 --> 01:58:53,320 Speaker 1: Reese and he spells his last name r E i 2263 01:58:54,040 --> 01:58:58,200 Speaker 1: SS not like the candy So at Mike rees is 2264 01:58:58,400 --> 01:58:59,960 Speaker 1: Where to follow him on Twitter? You want to keep 2265 01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,640 Speaker 1: your ead or the ground on the Patriots and what 2266 01:59:01,720 --> 01:59:04,880 Speaker 1: the Bill's division rivals doing. Follow this guy. He's really 2267 01:59:05,520 --> 01:59:08,960 Speaker 1: really good at what he does. Just really thorough, complete 2268 01:59:09,200 --> 01:59:12,040 Speaker 1: analysis of that team. Uh So that was good. I 2269 01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:14,320 Speaker 1: feel like it were caught up, you know, and it 2270 01:59:14,400 --> 01:59:17,760 Speaker 1: looks like Rock will get his extension, you know, probably 2271 01:59:19,040 --> 01:59:21,400 Speaker 1: after they roll into camp, maybe right before the season. 2272 01:59:21,840 --> 01:59:23,760 Speaker 1: Isn't an unbelievable all the little hoops you got to 2273 01:59:23,800 --> 01:59:26,320 Speaker 1: have to jump through to earn your stripes up there? Yeah, 2274 01:59:26,640 --> 01:59:33,480 Speaker 1: but I'm just thinking, though, you gotta pay me if 2275 01:59:33,480 --> 01:59:35,160 Speaker 1: you want me to keep playing, don't you think that's 2276 01:59:35,200 --> 01:59:38,160 Speaker 1: pretty much? Yeah, that's probably what he's doing. Probably what 2277 01:59:38,280 --> 01:59:40,680 Speaker 1: he's doing, yeah, because he's I mean, let's let's not 2278 01:59:40,760 --> 01:59:43,120 Speaker 1: make any mistake, the guy's going to be a professional wrestler, 2279 01:59:43,240 --> 01:59:47,360 Speaker 1: well professional wrestler in the WWE at some point in time. 2280 01:59:47,800 --> 01:59:51,120 Speaker 1: I didn't realize those guys make pretty good They don't 2281 01:59:51,160 --> 01:59:53,760 Speaker 1: make NFL money, but they made pretty good money. Like 2282 01:59:53,920 --> 01:59:56,160 Speaker 1: and there's former NFL guys doing it now, like Brock 2283 01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:59,160 Speaker 1: Lesner is doing it. They said Lesner made five million 2284 01:59:59,240 --> 02:00:02,480 Speaker 1: dollars last year as a wrestler. That's I'm not saying 2285 02:00:02,560 --> 02:00:04,680 Speaker 1: it's easy work. You know, they're flipping around, you're landing 2286 02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,520 Speaker 1: on canvas and you don't have pads on like you're 2287 02:00:06,520 --> 02:00:09,080 Speaker 1: doing football. But you're not doing it for sixteen weeks 2288 02:00:09,120 --> 02:00:11,120 Speaker 1: in a row, you know what I mean. Like gron 2289 02:00:11,160 --> 02:00:14,640 Speaker 1: could probably command seven million, eight million. He's a character. 2290 02:00:14,760 --> 02:00:16,880 Speaker 1: Here's a character. He's gonna try to do movies. He's 2291 02:00:16,880 --> 02:00:21,160 Speaker 1: gonna try to do what isn't he that's the template 2292 02:00:21,240 --> 02:00:24,560 Speaker 1: exactly what. I don't know if if Gronks is good 2293 02:00:24,560 --> 02:00:28,120 Speaker 1: an actors as the rockets there, we'll have to see. 2294 02:00:28,360 --> 02:00:30,480 Speaker 1: He's gonna need some acting lessons. Yeah, I don't think 2295 02:00:30,560 --> 02:00:32,320 Speaker 1: start off with I mean, he's a charactart off with 2296 02:00:32,440 --> 02:00:36,040 Speaker 1: animation with divorces first. He's a character, but he's gonna 2297 02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:38,880 Speaker 1: need some acting lessons, I think for sure. Before we 2298 02:00:39,000 --> 02:00:41,000 Speaker 1: go to break, we do want to mention one thing 2299 02:00:41,160 --> 02:00:44,480 Speaker 1: about the US Open. So at the US Open this 2300 02:00:44,600 --> 02:00:48,280 Speaker 1: past weekend down on Long Island, Shinnecock Hills golf Course, Uh, 2301 02:00:48,520 --> 02:00:53,040 Speaker 1: there were two NFL rookie quarterbacks that showed up to 2302 02:00:53,120 --> 02:00:55,760 Speaker 1: watch some of the action. One of them was Jets 2303 02:00:55,880 --> 02:00:59,520 Speaker 1: quarterback Sam Darnold and the other was Bill's quarterback Josh 2304 02:00:59,600 --> 02:01:01,680 Speaker 1: Allen rush Off. The end of mini camp, you got 2305 02:01:01,720 --> 02:01:05,480 Speaker 1: the weekend, these guys head down and watch golf. I mean, 2306 02:01:06,000 --> 02:01:08,000 Speaker 1: out of all the things you'd expect a twenty two 2307 02:01:08,120 --> 02:01:10,560 Speaker 1: year old rookie quarterback in the NFL to do, these 2308 02:01:10,600 --> 02:01:14,880 Speaker 1: guys are standing watching guys hit balls. The beach were 2309 02:01:15,200 --> 02:01:18,280 Speaker 1: a better option. Here's the crazy thing. Darnold isn't a 2310 02:01:18,480 --> 02:01:21,640 Speaker 1: huge He doesn't play golf. He's not even a huge golfer, 2311 02:01:22,360 --> 02:01:25,480 Speaker 1: but he likes watching golf, which blows my mind. Like, 2312 02:01:25,640 --> 02:01:27,600 Speaker 1: I gotta think you gotta be playing it to really 2313 02:01:27,720 --> 02:01:29,920 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, you invest four hours in 2314 02:01:30,000 --> 02:01:33,200 Speaker 1: a golf tournament. Yeah, I think you play it like 2315 02:01:33,320 --> 02:01:35,600 Speaker 1: you have some measure of passion for it. He doesn't 2316 02:01:35,640 --> 02:01:38,920 Speaker 1: play now, Josh plays, and I guess he's pretty good. 2317 02:01:38,960 --> 02:01:40,360 Speaker 1: And I guess his dad used to take him out, 2318 02:01:40,400 --> 02:01:42,640 Speaker 1: you know, growing up in California every so often, get 2319 02:01:42,720 --> 02:01:45,640 Speaker 1: off the farm, go play nine holes somewhere, that kind 2320 02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:48,480 Speaker 1: of stuff. So we've got a couple of clips from 2321 02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:54,360 Speaker 1: the interview that Sam Darnold and Josh Allen had on 2322 02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:57,640 Speaker 1: set with the USGA Channel. So let's take a look 2323 02:01:57,680 --> 02:01:59,440 Speaker 1: at a clip of some of their answers to some 2324 02:01:59,480 --> 02:02:01,880 Speaker 1: of the interview questions they got there over the weekend. 2325 02:02:04,440 --> 02:02:07,560 Speaker 1: Bill's nation is here, Bill's Mafia is apparent. They've been 2326 02:02:07,600 --> 02:02:10,520 Speaker 1: coming up to me a little bit, not as much 2327 02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:12,440 Speaker 1: as the Jets fans. There was Jets fans doing a 2328 02:02:12,440 --> 02:02:15,960 Speaker 1: little chant during some backswings and probably throwing off some scores. 2329 02:02:16,120 --> 02:02:18,320 Speaker 1: So you know, I think Bill's Mafia is a little 2330 02:02:18,360 --> 02:02:22,720 Speaker 1: more considerate of other people. Um, but I'll stop right there, 2331 02:02:23,080 --> 02:02:25,840 Speaker 1: all right. So Who's who's the better golfer between you two? 2332 02:02:25,840 --> 02:02:29,680 Speaker 1: Who who the biggest golfer? Definitely me? Oh, definitely golf. No, 2333 02:02:29,960 --> 02:02:32,440 Speaker 1: Sam hasn't golfed around in his life. I don't believe 2334 02:02:32,560 --> 02:02:36,360 Speaker 1: I've never golfed eighteen. Uh. Josh is a He's a 2335 02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:39,000 Speaker 1: pretty good golfer I've heard. So I'm gonna stay out 2336 02:02:39,000 --> 02:02:40,240 Speaker 1: of that one. I think Josh has got me on 2337 02:02:40,320 --> 02:02:43,000 Speaker 1: that that that. What's it? What's your best especially, I 2338 02:02:43,520 --> 02:02:45,880 Speaker 1: know Josh is better, right, what's your best golf experience? Though? 2339 02:02:46,080 --> 02:02:48,680 Speaker 1: The best golf experience? Uh, you know, traveling around with 2340 02:02:48,800 --> 02:02:52,120 Speaker 1: my dad, going to various courses around California, Um, some 2341 02:02:52,240 --> 02:02:55,080 Speaker 1: courses like in the Monterey area, ranch of Kenyada, stuff 2342 02:02:55,120 --> 02:02:57,360 Speaker 1: like that, and then going to you know, the local 2343 02:02:57,400 --> 02:03:00,680 Speaker 1: courses in Fresno and traveling around. So it's been really cool. Um, 2344 02:03:00,840 --> 02:03:02,280 Speaker 1: you know, to have a to have a father who 2345 02:03:02,320 --> 02:03:04,400 Speaker 1: took me golfing when I was younger. It's been some 2346 02:03:04,480 --> 02:03:07,800 Speaker 1: really cool experiences there too. So that's Josh and I'm 2347 02:03:07,880 --> 02:03:09,560 Speaker 1: kind of talking about how his dad took him around 2348 02:03:09,720 --> 02:03:13,560 Speaker 1: played some golf. Um, how about him like sticking up 2349 02:03:13,560 --> 02:03:17,720 Speaker 1: for Bill's mafia right exactly? Wasn't it funny thought? Because 2350 02:03:17,760 --> 02:03:20,200 Speaker 1: he's he's ragging on Jets fans because there were a 2351 02:03:20,240 --> 02:03:22,200 Speaker 1: lot of Jets fans at the tournament. There were sometimes 2352 02:03:22,280 --> 02:03:25,680 Speaker 1: you can even hear him going Jets Jets, Jets Jets 2353 02:03:25,920 --> 02:03:30,240 Speaker 1: like during backswings and stuff like bad bad golf etiquette. 2354 02:03:30,520 --> 02:03:32,360 Speaker 1: And I'm just like, well, yeah, you know you're gonna 2355 02:03:32,400 --> 02:03:34,360 Speaker 1: get desk, what you're gonna You're gonna get that sometimes. 2356 02:03:34,600 --> 02:03:36,880 Speaker 1: So he's saying, Bills Mafia fan. You know, Bills fans 2357 02:03:36,920 --> 02:03:38,920 Speaker 1: more considerate than Jets fans. And he realized where he 2358 02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:40,840 Speaker 1: was going, and I think he also realized where he 2359 02:03:41,040 --> 02:03:43,680 Speaker 1: was and he's like, I'm gonna stop right there. I'm 2360 02:03:43,680 --> 02:03:45,880 Speaker 1: gonna stop right because he probably could have went on 2361 02:03:46,040 --> 02:03:48,120 Speaker 1: and on and on. Well, yeah, he could have said, 2362 02:03:48,400 --> 02:03:51,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure he was going to say something. He had 2363 02:03:51,040 --> 02:03:53,680 Speaker 1: to stop. You could You could hear the name Derek Boko, 2364 02:03:55,000 --> 02:03:57,160 Speaker 1: the you know, the Bill's vice president, that can be 2365 02:03:57,880 --> 02:04:01,240 Speaker 1: rolling through his head as he's saying it. Couldn't. Oh, 2366 02:04:01,360 --> 02:04:04,120 Speaker 1: Derek's gonna kill me if I say, everybody shut up 2367 02:04:04,200 --> 02:04:06,160 Speaker 1: right here and cut it off. I just talked about 2368 02:04:06,200 --> 02:04:08,920 Speaker 1: how considerate they are. That's it. But um yeah. And 2369 02:04:09,320 --> 02:04:13,760 Speaker 1: the funny thing was Darnald even said that some some 2370 02:04:14,280 --> 02:04:17,280 Speaker 1: Giants fans wearing Giants gear came up to him to 2371 02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:19,560 Speaker 1: see if they could take a picture with him, which 2372 02:04:19,800 --> 02:04:23,000 Speaker 1: is weird enough in itself, because Jets fans and Giants 2373 02:04:23,120 --> 02:04:25,080 Speaker 1: it's like oil and water. You just they don't mix. 2374 02:04:25,480 --> 02:04:27,360 Speaker 1: They don't mix. Growing up down there, you're either a 2375 02:04:27,480 --> 02:04:29,320 Speaker 1: Jets fan or a Giants fan. There's no in between 2376 02:04:29,920 --> 02:04:31,880 Speaker 1: So to even hear that a Giants fan would go 2377 02:04:32,000 --> 02:04:34,520 Speaker 1: up to the Jets quarterback and ask to take a photo, 2378 02:04:34,880 --> 02:04:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm like, where are we in this day of social 2379 02:04:37,280 --> 02:04:39,600 Speaker 1: media that you have to get a picture with the 2380 02:04:40,320 --> 02:04:43,680 Speaker 1: you know, arch rival team in the city. Uh so, 2381 02:04:43,840 --> 02:04:45,680 Speaker 1: here's the best part. So they asked to take a 2382 02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:48,040 Speaker 1: picture with Darnald. Darnald, you know, trying to be a 2383 02:04:48,120 --> 02:04:50,000 Speaker 1: nice guy. A comment ain't takes a picture with the 2384 02:04:50,040 --> 02:04:54,360 Speaker 1: Giants guy. Right after the picture go g men, guy 2385 02:04:54,440 --> 02:04:57,200 Speaker 1: walks away. Right, It's like, dude, I just did you 2386 02:04:57,280 --> 02:04:59,240 Speaker 1: a favor. You're gonna throw that at me, you know, 2387 02:04:59,440 --> 02:05:03,520 Speaker 1: come on, that's the society that we live in. Holy cow. Yeah, 2388 02:05:03,640 --> 02:05:05,720 Speaker 1: the guy who wants to be on social media seeing 2389 02:05:05,840 --> 02:05:08,160 Speaker 1: look who I took a picture with. And if Sam 2390 02:05:08,280 --> 02:05:11,280 Speaker 1: Donald does well in New York, yeah, that picture will 2391 02:05:11,320 --> 02:05:13,560 Speaker 1: be circulated for the next fifteen and twenty years. I 2392 02:05:14,200 --> 02:05:16,200 Speaker 1: knew him back then. He was just starting off as 2393 02:05:16,240 --> 02:05:19,160 Speaker 1: a rookie. That's the way it goes. Yeah, uh yeah. 2394 02:05:19,280 --> 02:05:22,960 Speaker 1: But because I'm thinking, like when I was a kid, 2395 02:05:23,080 --> 02:05:25,120 Speaker 1: like I was, I grew up a Yankees fan, right 2396 02:05:25,240 --> 02:05:28,000 Speaker 1: Like I might go to a Mets game if a 2397 02:05:28,040 --> 02:05:29,320 Speaker 1: buddy said, hey, you want to go to the Mets 2398 02:05:29,400 --> 02:05:30,440 Speaker 1: game with me? I was like, yeah, I go to 2399 02:05:30,480 --> 02:05:34,000 Speaker 1: the Mets game. I'm not rooting for Darryl Strawberry. Like, 2400 02:05:34,280 --> 02:05:37,240 Speaker 1: I'm a Yankees fan. I'm not doing that. You're you're you're, you're, 2401 02:05:37,360 --> 02:05:39,080 Speaker 1: you're good. I wouldn't even go to a Mets game. 2402 02:05:39,320 --> 02:05:41,080 Speaker 1: I'm a Yankees fan. Yeah, I wouldn't go to a 2403 02:05:41,160 --> 02:05:44,080 Speaker 1: Mets game. Well, believe me, I'm not paying to go. Somebody, 2404 02:05:44,200 --> 02:05:45,960 Speaker 1: somebody want to bring me along, you know, I'll watch. 2405 02:05:46,880 --> 02:05:48,760 Speaker 1: I'll watch a good Wow. That wasn't happening when I 2406 02:05:48,840 --> 02:05:51,120 Speaker 1: was fifteen or sixteen. I'm sitting up top up, top 2407 02:05:51,680 --> 02:05:54,120 Speaker 1: way high, you know, with the tissues. Somebody knows, doesn't 2408 02:05:54,120 --> 02:05:58,000 Speaker 1: believe um. But man, I'm not rooting for the only 2409 02:05:58,080 --> 02:06:00,640 Speaker 1: time I rooted for the Mets ever in my life 2410 02:06:01,520 --> 02:06:04,760 Speaker 1: was nineteen eighty six against the Red because it's the 2411 02:06:04,800 --> 02:06:07,360 Speaker 1: Red Sox. So the only time I'm rooting for the 2412 02:06:07,400 --> 02:06:09,200 Speaker 1: Mets is if they're playing the Red Sox, because then 2413 02:06:09,400 --> 02:06:11,480 Speaker 1: you know, it's like one A and one B. It's like, 2414 02:06:11,480 --> 02:06:13,320 Speaker 1: all right, well i'll take one B. I guess I'll 2415 02:06:13,400 --> 02:06:15,640 Speaker 1: root for them. Yeah, and not for the Red Sox. 2416 02:06:15,760 --> 02:06:17,840 Speaker 1: That was the only time I probably ever rooted for 2417 02:06:17,880 --> 02:06:20,400 Speaker 1: the Mets um and that's where it's at, and that's 2418 02:06:20,440 --> 02:06:22,640 Speaker 1: where it was. That's why a lot of you hear 2419 02:06:22,720 --> 02:06:25,040 Speaker 1: these stories and it's like this just doesn't even compute 2420 02:06:25,080 --> 02:06:28,400 Speaker 1: other Yeah, so did you have that in Houston? You 2421 02:06:28,480 --> 02:06:30,720 Speaker 1: were like an Astros fan? But who was the arts 2422 02:06:30,800 --> 02:06:33,960 Speaker 1: rival the Astros? They were in the National Oh you 2423 02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,080 Speaker 1: were still Yankees even down there. Yeah, okay, yeah, I 2424 02:06:37,120 --> 02:06:39,800 Speaker 1: didn't know if that was something you inherited. I just 2425 02:06:39,920 --> 02:06:42,880 Speaker 1: kind of liked the players. I didn't actually like the team. Okay. 2426 02:06:42,960 --> 02:06:45,240 Speaker 1: You know when I started growing when I was growing 2427 02:06:45,320 --> 02:06:47,440 Speaker 1: up in Houston, you know, I heard the main Therman 2428 02:06:47,520 --> 02:06:49,680 Speaker 1: Munson and I was in, Oh, there you go, you go, 2429 02:06:49,800 --> 02:06:51,560 Speaker 1: I was in. I was in being a Yankee fan, 2430 02:06:51,720 --> 02:06:54,920 Speaker 1: even though living in Houston. But uh yeah, I'm I've 2431 02:06:54,960 --> 02:06:58,800 Speaker 1: always been a Yankee fan. My therms will a Yankee fan, 2432 02:06:58,880 --> 02:07:06,440 Speaker 1: and I'm family they're Pirates fans. Yea, yeah, exactly, that's 2433 02:07:06,480 --> 02:07:09,400 Speaker 1: a nineteen seventy nine on that exactly. I mean I 2434 02:07:09,560 --> 02:07:12,360 Speaker 1: still here, we are family at the picnics and stuff. 2435 02:07:12,400 --> 02:07:14,320 Speaker 1: There ain't much else and that much else after that, 2436 02:07:14,440 --> 02:07:16,240 Speaker 1: so I understand why, and they got rid of the 2437 02:07:16,320 --> 02:07:19,600 Speaker 1: best player McCutcheon. All right, all right, we gotta step aside, 2438 02:07:19,680 --> 02:07:21,680 Speaker 1: but Thurman and I will be back on the other side. 2439 02:07:21,720 --> 02:07:24,120 Speaker 1: We got a couple of things to discuss here, football 2440 02:07:24,200 --> 02:07:26,880 Speaker 1: related and otherwise. Thurman, you'll be happy to know. England 2441 02:07:27,000 --> 02:07:31,040 Speaker 1: is up one nil right now on Tunisia. Harry Caine 2442 02:07:31,080 --> 02:07:33,960 Speaker 1: with the goal. Harry Kane. Harry came with the goal. 2443 02:07:34,040 --> 02:07:38,120 Speaker 1: So uh you your newfound uh fandom for England and 2444 02:07:38,160 --> 02:07:40,680 Speaker 1: the World Cup is starting out well here thurm We'll 2445 02:07:40,680 --> 02:07:42,360 Speaker 1: see how it keeps going. It should go well, it 2446 02:07:42,400 --> 02:07:44,920 Speaker 1: should end well. Tunisia had to pull their goalkeeper for 2447 02:07:45,000 --> 02:07:47,560 Speaker 1: an injury. So some serious stuff going on in your 2448 02:07:47,600 --> 02:07:49,320 Speaker 1: first game as an England fans. Can I get a 2449 02:07:49,400 --> 02:07:52,400 Speaker 1: jersey around here somewhere? Well, we can order you one. 2450 02:07:52,440 --> 02:07:54,200 Speaker 1: You can get one online. We'll figure it out for you. 2451 02:07:54,680 --> 02:07:56,560 Speaker 1: Eight h three oh five fifty to join Thurman and 2452 02:07:56,600 --> 02:07:58,760 Speaker 1: I here on One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive. 2453 02:07:58,840 --> 02:08:11,200 Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. More One Bills Live from 2454 02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:13,160 Speaker 1: One Bill's Drive. Chris Brown along with Hall of Famer 2455 02:08:13,240 --> 02:08:15,520 Speaker 1: Thurman Thomas. He's holding his head in his hands because 2456 02:08:15,600 --> 02:08:20,960 Speaker 1: Tunisia has just leveled to score on his newfound team England. 2457 02:08:21,560 --> 02:08:24,240 Speaker 1: There are knotted up at one in the thirty seventh minute, 2458 02:08:24,680 --> 02:08:27,960 Speaker 1: so we'll have to keep Thurman posted. The nail biting 2459 02:08:28,000 --> 02:08:31,520 Speaker 1: has begun. There's plenty of game left them, plenty of game, 2460 02:08:31,840 --> 02:08:33,680 Speaker 1: plenty of game left. You'll be able to be home 2461 02:08:33,720 --> 02:08:36,440 Speaker 1: before the second half even starts. You got a shot 2462 02:08:36,480 --> 02:08:40,880 Speaker 1: at that. But first we've got to undergo some true false. Okay, 2463 02:08:41,000 --> 02:08:43,680 Speaker 1: brought to you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and cheese. 2464 02:08:44,600 --> 02:08:47,360 Speaker 1: So first on the true false list, here for you, Thurman. 2465 02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:53,040 Speaker 1: The Houston Texans will be a playoff team this year. 2466 02:08:53,280 --> 02:08:59,920 Speaker 1: True or false? Man, it all dependel. What does Shaun Watson? 2467 02:09:00,080 --> 02:09:02,520 Speaker 1: Is he coming back from the knee injury? Right? This 2468 02:09:02,720 --> 02:09:05,680 Speaker 1: is not easy now. The Texans ranked at the top 2469 02:09:05,800 --> 02:09:10,360 Speaker 1: of the ESPN dot com list as most likely new 2470 02:09:10,680 --> 02:09:14,120 Speaker 1: NFL playoff teams. You know, they listed who would be 2471 02:09:14,160 --> 02:09:16,919 Speaker 1: the new playoff team and who they would replace. Houston 2472 02:09:17,040 --> 02:09:19,200 Speaker 1: was at the top of the list. They're playing in 2473 02:09:19,280 --> 02:09:22,920 Speaker 1: the AFC South, obviously, you got Jacksonville in there, yea, 2474 02:09:23,120 --> 02:09:24,840 Speaker 1: and went all the way to the AFC title game 2475 02:09:24,960 --> 02:09:27,640 Speaker 1: last year. You know they're gonna be good again. Bordals 2476 02:09:27,680 --> 02:09:30,600 Speaker 1: are not because they are loaded on d Man that 2477 02:09:31,320 --> 02:09:35,680 Speaker 1: Jacksonville team. I'm gonna what do you say? True or false? 2478 02:09:37,120 --> 02:09:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go false. Okay, you don't think they're gonna 2479 02:09:39,440 --> 02:09:40,920 Speaker 1: make it as a wild card. I don't think you 2480 02:09:41,000 --> 02:09:44,560 Speaker 1: think Jacksonville wins the division. Jacksonville no wild card team 2481 02:09:44,600 --> 02:09:47,160 Speaker 1: from the AFC seat, So I'm going to go false. 2482 02:09:47,480 --> 02:09:49,400 Speaker 1: So why are you Why are you of the opinion 2483 02:09:49,480 --> 02:09:51,720 Speaker 1: that they're just not gonna be good? Now where do 2484 02:09:51,720 --> 02:09:53,080 Speaker 1: you think they're gonna come up? I think it goes 2485 02:09:53,120 --> 02:09:55,120 Speaker 1: all the way back to nineteen eighty eight when Orleans 2486 02:09:55,160 --> 02:10:02,560 Speaker 1: didn't draft me. Yeah, okay, they drafted Lorenzo White. So 2487 02:10:02,800 --> 02:10:05,000 Speaker 1: I'm going false. So it's still a little bitter. Yeah, 2488 02:10:05,120 --> 02:10:08,120 Speaker 1: still a little bitter. Okay, all right, and my mom 2489 02:10:08,240 --> 02:10:12,080 Speaker 1: has season tickets there too, But I'm still going false. Well, 2490 02:10:12,280 --> 02:10:16,240 Speaker 1: at least it all worked out. Yeah, Hall of Fame career. 2491 02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:19,840 Speaker 1: I think it worked out. Okay, Um, all right, So 2492 02:10:20,160 --> 02:10:24,520 Speaker 1: I look, I look at this. Well, here's the only 2493 02:10:24,640 --> 02:10:28,840 Speaker 1: thing that I think Houston has over Jacksonville. They got 2494 02:10:28,920 --> 02:10:31,400 Speaker 1: a number one playmaker at the most important position on 2495 02:10:31,480 --> 02:10:35,880 Speaker 1: the field, and Jacksonville doesn't have that. And I don't 2496 02:10:35,880 --> 02:10:39,000 Speaker 1: know why. You know, I want, I want your buddy 2497 02:10:39,040 --> 02:10:41,960 Speaker 1: Frank Reich to do well in Indy. But I don't 2498 02:10:42,000 --> 02:10:44,160 Speaker 1: know why. I just have this gut feeling that this 2499 02:10:44,320 --> 02:10:47,000 Speaker 1: Andrew Luck thing is just gonna drag into the season. 2500 02:10:47,600 --> 02:10:50,360 Speaker 1: Someone's gonna happen. He's gonna get hit, his shoulders not 2501 02:10:50,440 --> 02:10:53,200 Speaker 1: going to be right, and then he's gonna be scrambling around. 2502 02:10:53,600 --> 02:10:58,200 Speaker 1: You know, um with the backup who played last year. 2503 02:10:58,280 --> 02:11:01,680 Speaker 1: Why can't I remember his name Brissette? Thank you, Jacoby Brissette. 2504 02:11:02,320 --> 02:11:05,200 Speaker 1: And you know that. I don't think they're gonna get 2505 02:11:05,240 --> 02:11:09,880 Speaker 1: it done. And then who's left Tennessee Tennessee, you know, 2506 02:11:10,000 --> 02:11:13,480 Speaker 1: could surprise. But I think that whole division is just 2507 02:11:13,560 --> 02:11:18,440 Speaker 1: gonna be a schmozzle. And somehow, some way, I think, yeah, 2508 02:11:18,480 --> 02:11:20,680 Speaker 1: and I think Watson's just gonna pull the rabbit out 2509 02:11:20,680 --> 02:11:22,880 Speaker 1: of the hat for them. Think and I think I 2510 02:11:23,040 --> 02:11:27,600 Speaker 1: think they either get wild card or maybe even the division. 2511 02:11:27,680 --> 02:11:30,320 Speaker 1: If Jacksonville, you know, doesn't find the same magic that 2512 02:11:30,400 --> 02:11:33,240 Speaker 1: they did last year, Bards are gonna have to play better. 2513 02:11:33,880 --> 02:11:37,000 Speaker 1: I just see Watson. I just see Watson winning games 2514 02:11:37,040 --> 02:11:38,520 Speaker 1: for them in that division. Because he's gonna have the 2515 02:11:38,560 --> 02:11:39,720 Speaker 1: ball in his hand at the end of the game. 2516 02:11:39,760 --> 02:11:44,120 Speaker 1: He's gonna make something happen. Stay healthy, Cane, No, you're 2517 02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:47,040 Speaker 1: You're already fall So I'm true. Um, there's a long 2518 02:11:47,120 --> 02:11:53,320 Speaker 1: way around to get into true. Okay, second one, all right, Um, 2519 02:11:53,640 --> 02:11:57,640 Speaker 1: what do we got here? Dion Lewis and Derrick Henry 2520 02:11:57,720 --> 02:12:00,560 Speaker 1: will be the best running back duo in the league 2521 02:12:00,680 --> 02:12:05,440 Speaker 1: this year for the Tennessee Titans. True or false, I'm 2522 02:12:05,440 --> 02:12:09,560 Speaker 1: the best running back duo. I'm going false. I'm going false. 2523 02:12:09,840 --> 02:12:12,920 Speaker 1: Even with mark Ingram missing four games, I think New 2524 02:12:13,040 --> 02:12:18,440 Speaker 1: Orleans has the best duo running back. He's better than 2525 02:12:18,480 --> 02:12:21,480 Speaker 1: those two. He's better than those two put together. Yeah, Yeah, 2526 02:12:21,560 --> 02:12:28,000 Speaker 1: I just don't. As much as I love watching Derek Henry, 2527 02:12:29,160 --> 02:12:32,000 Speaker 1: you know, he's not a multi dimensional No, he's not, 2528 02:12:32,320 --> 02:12:34,680 Speaker 1: you know. And it's kind of that bruising style that 2529 02:12:34,800 --> 02:12:39,000 Speaker 1: Tennessee so oh man, I mean, their offensive line is 2530 02:12:39,040 --> 02:12:41,080 Speaker 1: going to have to create some They have two good 2531 02:12:41,160 --> 02:12:46,560 Speaker 1: tackles down there. Luan and Man, I'm still I'm going false. 2532 02:12:46,680 --> 02:12:51,160 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm still going with Kamara and mark Ingram 2533 02:12:51,280 --> 02:12:54,520 Speaker 1: even though he's gonna miss four games. Yeah, and I 2534 02:12:54,920 --> 02:12:56,960 Speaker 1: wouldn't disagree. I would take that too. I would take 2535 02:12:57,000 --> 02:12:59,400 Speaker 1: that tosome. I would even take the Atlanta Tosome, DeVonta 2536 02:12:59,480 --> 02:13:02,760 Speaker 1: Freeman and Um, who's the speedy kid man. I'm having 2537 02:13:02,800 --> 02:13:07,600 Speaker 1: trouble with names today, I'm um. But the backup there, 2538 02:13:07,840 --> 02:13:10,000 Speaker 1: I'll look him up. I'll find him because it's gonna 2539 02:13:10,040 --> 02:13:12,360 Speaker 1: bother me now that I can't think of the backup 2540 02:13:12,560 --> 02:13:15,120 Speaker 1: running back for the Atlanta Falcons. I got a joke, 2541 02:13:16,040 --> 02:13:18,160 Speaker 1: the backup running back for the Atlanta Falcons, because you 2542 02:13:18,200 --> 02:13:22,360 Speaker 1: got Freeman there, um and Tevin Coleman. Tevin Colemans who 2543 02:13:22,360 --> 02:13:25,240 Speaker 1: I'm thinking of. I'll take those two guys, take these two, 2544 02:13:25,320 --> 02:13:29,360 Speaker 1: so I will say false. Also, I don't I don't 2545 02:13:29,520 --> 02:13:32,440 Speaker 1: you know. This is a good tandem, but it's not 2546 02:13:32,560 --> 02:13:35,840 Speaker 1: an all world tandem, like an all pro top of 2547 02:13:35,880 --> 02:13:38,880 Speaker 1: the league tandem. I mean, you got one guy who 2548 02:13:38,920 --> 02:13:40,680 Speaker 1: can run them. I'm not saying a deal. And Lewis 2549 02:13:40,720 --> 02:13:42,840 Speaker 1: can't run the ball, but when you look at him, 2550 02:13:42,920 --> 02:13:44,560 Speaker 1: he's more of a guy that's gonna catch a lot 2551 02:13:44,640 --> 02:13:48,400 Speaker 1: of passes. No, I would agree with that. Yeah, I 2552 02:13:48,960 --> 02:13:52,040 Speaker 1: totally go on with the Saints. So false for both 2553 02:13:52,080 --> 02:13:54,640 Speaker 1: of us on that one okay, all right, and then 2554 02:13:54,720 --> 02:13:57,320 Speaker 1: now I've got to get to the last one. As 2555 02:13:57,360 --> 02:13:59,280 Speaker 1: part of True and Falls, brought to you by Yancy's 2556 02:13:59,320 --> 02:14:02,360 Speaker 1: fancy New York artist in Cheese. Dak Prescott had some 2557 02:14:02,480 --> 02:14:07,120 Speaker 1: things to say this week, m cowp. So the true 2558 02:14:07,160 --> 02:14:11,400 Speaker 1: false question is Cowboys will be an exciting team and 2559 02:14:11,680 --> 02:14:15,040 Speaker 1: surprise a lot of people this year. There's been more 2560 02:14:15,120 --> 02:14:20,480 Speaker 1: subtraction than addition down there, therm. You know that Jason 2561 02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:25,680 Speaker 1: Witten retired, Dez Bryant's no longer though there might go back, right, 2562 02:14:26,600 --> 02:14:29,440 Speaker 1: So Cowboys will be an exciting team and surprise a 2563 02:14:29,520 --> 02:14:33,680 Speaker 1: lot of people this year. Cowboys will be an exciting 2564 02:14:33,720 --> 02:14:35,320 Speaker 1: team is surprised. Do you want to hear what Dak 2565 02:14:35,360 --> 02:14:38,840 Speaker 1: Prescott's quote was first? Before what he said, Well, he said, 2566 02:14:38,880 --> 02:14:41,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna be an exciting team this year, and he 2567 02:14:41,600 --> 02:14:43,920 Speaker 1: said a lot of new faces. I think you're going 2568 02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:45,840 Speaker 1: to find we had a lot of new guys on 2569 02:14:46,000 --> 02:14:48,880 Speaker 1: this team and within this organization that can make plays. 2570 02:14:49,000 --> 02:14:53,879 Speaker 1: We plan on surprising a lot of people. Great offensive 2571 02:14:53,920 --> 02:14:56,240 Speaker 1: line still one of the best in football, no question 2572 02:14:56,280 --> 02:15:01,400 Speaker 1: about that. There all year provided his hell, but you 2573 02:15:01,520 --> 02:15:05,680 Speaker 1: still have the wilde receiver position. That's what's the one 2574 02:15:05,760 --> 02:15:08,200 Speaker 1: guy Williams eighty three, he's the only one that's kind 2575 02:15:08,200 --> 02:15:13,440 Speaker 1: of coming back. Well, yeah, and the slot kid they got. 2576 02:15:13,520 --> 02:15:15,840 Speaker 1: They got Deanti Thompson from the Bills, so he's out 2577 02:15:15,880 --> 02:15:19,720 Speaker 1: there with Terrence Williams. Um Michael Galloped the third round 2578 02:15:19,800 --> 02:15:24,080 Speaker 1: draft pick out of Colorado State. They picked up Cedric Wilson, 2579 02:15:24,520 --> 02:15:26,520 Speaker 1: sixth round pick out of Boys. So a lot of 2580 02:15:26,600 --> 02:15:29,600 Speaker 1: young dudes though. Well, they're always going to be exciting team, 2581 02:15:29,640 --> 02:15:33,440 Speaker 1: I guess because Alan Hurt, Alan Hearns and free agency 2582 02:15:33,560 --> 02:15:37,960 Speaker 1: former Jacksonville receiver. So there are targets to throw to um. 2583 02:15:38,480 --> 02:15:41,520 Speaker 1: But tight end looks pretty thin. That's why they drafted 2584 02:15:41,560 --> 02:15:44,560 Speaker 1: that Dalton Dalton Schultzkin in the fourth round. But these 2585 02:15:44,600 --> 02:15:50,160 Speaker 1: are their projected starting tight ends, Jeff Swain and Blake Jarwin. Yeah, 2586 02:15:50,240 --> 02:15:53,960 Speaker 1: sound like blocking guys. This strong departure from Gavin Escobar 2587 02:15:54,000 --> 02:15:57,600 Speaker 1: and Jason Witton. Yeah. Man, you know you gotta kind 2588 02:15:57,600 --> 02:15:59,840 Speaker 1: of look at their entire I'm not looking at that 2589 02:16:00,040 --> 02:16:03,880 Speaker 1: the offense because they got cold be defense. Uh defense, Ye, 2590 02:16:04,960 --> 02:16:08,280 Speaker 1: he really carry No, you can't carry it. He's a 2591 02:16:08,320 --> 02:16:12,480 Speaker 1: slot complimentary guy. Yeah, this is their defensive line. Projected 2592 02:16:12,520 --> 02:16:16,080 Speaker 1: starting defensive line. You're ready to Marcus Lawrence, MALIEK Collins, 2593 02:16:16,320 --> 02:16:20,920 Speaker 1: David Irving, Tyrone Crawford, linebackers, Layton vander Esh the first 2594 02:16:21,000 --> 02:16:24,640 Speaker 1: round pick, Sean Lee's back and Jalen Smith, the Notre 2595 02:16:24,720 --> 02:16:26,480 Speaker 1: Dame pick, looked like he's finally gonna be able to 2596 02:16:26,520 --> 02:16:29,000 Speaker 1: start play a full sixteen game schedule didn't. One guy 2597 02:16:29,120 --> 02:16:34,000 Speaker 1: just gets suspend it. Um. I think it was Lawrence. 2598 02:16:34,080 --> 02:16:37,360 Speaker 1: They got suspended. Marcus Lawrence, He's the one that got suspended, right, 2599 02:16:37,600 --> 02:16:39,560 Speaker 1: So he's not gonna start. So they got Cony Eely 2600 02:16:39,640 --> 02:16:41,760 Speaker 1: behind him. Yeah, Cole was a big exciting team and 2601 02:16:41,840 --> 02:16:43,880 Speaker 1: surprised a lot of people, you know, in that NFC 2602 02:16:44,000 --> 02:16:47,119 Speaker 1: east Man with the Eagles. I don't know if Washington's 2603 02:16:47,120 --> 02:16:49,920 Speaker 1: gonna be any better. Giants should be better with Barkley. Yeah, 2604 02:16:49,920 --> 02:16:52,879 Speaker 1: I don't know how they're gonna surprise a lot of people. 2605 02:16:52,959 --> 02:16:57,480 Speaker 1: I think they would be exciting. So you're kind of 2606 02:16:57,520 --> 02:16:59,880 Speaker 1: like half in half. I'm like half and half, okay, 2607 02:17:00,360 --> 02:17:07,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know where that leaves us. You know what, 2608 02:17:08,200 --> 02:17:10,119 Speaker 1: you know what, I'm gonna go for it. I'm gonna 2609 02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:12,440 Speaker 1: go true, Okay, I'm gonna go true for Thurman. I'm 2610 02:17:12,480 --> 02:17:14,560 Speaker 1: going false, because I think if they surprise people, it's 2611 02:17:14,600 --> 02:17:17,320 Speaker 1: going to be in the very wrong way, like horribly 2612 02:17:17,440 --> 02:17:20,520 Speaker 1: bad is how they might surprise people. I'm only doing 2613 02:17:20,560 --> 02:17:22,600 Speaker 1: that because they get Elliott back and he'll be there 2614 02:17:22,840 --> 02:17:25,280 Speaker 1: entire seat and he's motivated. That's and hey, that's a 2615 02:17:25,360 --> 02:17:27,640 Speaker 1: valid reason. Yeah, I mean that's a valid reason. No problem, 2616 02:17:27,720 --> 02:17:29,360 Speaker 1: all right, all right, So we'll take a break. One 2617 02:17:29,400 --> 02:17:31,880 Speaker 1: more segment to go. Here on the Monday edition of 2618 02:17:32,040 --> 02:17:34,960 Speaker 1: One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive, Chris Brown, Thurman 2619 02:17:35,040 --> 02:17:48,640 Speaker 1: Thomas with you on Buffalo Bill's Radio. Back on One 2620 02:17:48,720 --> 02:17:52,000 Speaker 1: Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. Time for what have 2621 02:17:52,280 --> 02:17:55,400 Speaker 1: we learned? Presented by Advanced Alarm, the official alarm and 2622 02:17:55,480 --> 02:17:59,800 Speaker 1: home theater provider of the Buffalo Bills. So Thurman first 2623 02:17:59,840 --> 02:18:04,520 Speaker 1: and foremost, we heard some World Cup analysis. Yes, we 2624 02:18:04,680 --> 02:18:09,080 Speaker 1: did read Ferguson and Colton Schmidt, the two Bills soccer 2625 02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:13,959 Speaker 1: experts from the locker room, and they didn't talk World Cup. 2626 02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:17,720 Speaker 1: Only we asked them about the Bills culture change and 2627 02:18:17,840 --> 02:18:21,600 Speaker 1: how much coach McDermott has changed it in one calendar year. 2628 02:18:22,160 --> 02:18:24,320 Speaker 1: Here's their take on the biggest factors in the new 2629 02:18:24,360 --> 02:18:28,720 Speaker 1: team culture. Yeah, I'm gonna agree with what Colton said. 2630 02:18:28,760 --> 02:18:31,920 Speaker 1: It's coach McDermott has made it easy for us to 2631 02:18:32,040 --> 02:18:35,400 Speaker 1: buy in to what he's trying to instill in all 2632 02:18:35,440 --> 02:18:39,720 Speaker 1: of us. And I think, you know, enjoying being at 2633 02:18:39,760 --> 02:18:43,280 Speaker 1: the facility with the guys, enjoying spending time with the 2634 02:18:43,360 --> 02:18:46,880 Speaker 1: guys on the team who you're you're basically around for, 2635 02:18:47,400 --> 02:18:49,520 Speaker 1: you know, so many hours of the day throughout the season. 2636 02:18:49,760 --> 02:18:53,640 Speaker 1: It makes it um you know, One, you know, I 2637 02:18:53,680 --> 02:18:55,959 Speaker 1: guess that's fun to be around him, and then two, 2638 02:18:56,080 --> 02:19:00,960 Speaker 1: it makes you want to work harder to be accountable 2639 02:19:01,000 --> 02:19:04,000 Speaker 1: to everybody else on the team and make sure that 2640 02:19:04,040 --> 02:19:05,840 Speaker 1: you're doing your job to the best of your ability. 2641 02:19:06,720 --> 02:19:09,440 Speaker 1: That was Reid ferguson Bills long Snapper on the team 2642 02:19:09,520 --> 02:19:12,880 Speaker 1: culture and how it is just an embedded part of 2643 02:19:13,000 --> 02:19:15,240 Speaker 1: what they are as a team now after just a 2644 02:19:15,360 --> 02:19:18,840 Speaker 1: year under coach McDermott. Pretty impressive stuff. We also talked 2645 02:19:18,920 --> 02:19:23,560 Speaker 1: to ESPN NFL Nation Patriots beat reporter Mike Reese. That's 2646 02:19:23,600 --> 02:19:27,160 Speaker 1: a mouthful, isn't it. Good luck saying that five times fast, 2647 02:19:27,600 --> 02:19:30,200 Speaker 1: But we've talked to him about all things Patriots that 2648 02:19:30,280 --> 02:19:32,040 Speaker 1: have gone on this offseason. There's been a lot of 2649 02:19:32,120 --> 02:19:35,040 Speaker 1: drama up in New England with Gronk and whether he's playing, 2650 02:19:35,120 --> 02:19:38,359 Speaker 1: whether he's not, and Tom Brady and how much longer 2651 02:19:38,879 --> 02:19:42,640 Speaker 1: he's going to be playing, if at all, beyond twenty nineteen. 2652 02:19:42,840 --> 02:19:45,040 Speaker 1: Mike Reese gave us the lowdown on that in the 2653 02:19:45,160 --> 02:19:50,640 Speaker 1: wake of Brady's interview with Oprah Winfrey. I think you're 2654 02:19:50,680 --> 02:19:53,560 Speaker 1: in a year to year situation now with Tom Brady. 2655 02:19:53,640 --> 02:19:56,720 Speaker 1: You know, prior to this offseason, it has always been 2656 02:19:57,320 --> 02:20:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, forty five that it's sort of been the marker, 2657 02:20:00,680 --> 02:20:02,920 Speaker 1: right because he had said, you know, that would be 2658 02:20:03,080 --> 02:20:06,120 Speaker 1: his goal to play to forty five. And you know, 2659 02:20:06,200 --> 02:20:10,039 Speaker 1: I thought this this interview sort of highlights one layer 2660 02:20:10,240 --> 02:20:14,560 Speaker 1: that is important to talk about, and it's that, you know, 2661 02:20:14,680 --> 02:20:18,520 Speaker 1: he still loves the preparation, so the Monday to Saturday stuff. 2662 02:20:18,879 --> 02:20:22,240 Speaker 1: And the third layer is every year is one more 2663 02:20:22,360 --> 02:20:25,360 Speaker 1: year away from his children. And that, to me was 2664 02:20:25,680 --> 02:20:28,080 Speaker 1: what I took out of this interview with Oprah Winfrey. 2665 02:20:29,440 --> 02:20:33,360 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, Thurman, the best headline that will ever 2666 02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:36,680 Speaker 1: come out of New England for a Bills fan is 2667 02:20:36,800 --> 02:20:40,840 Speaker 1: Tom Brady has retired. They might have a parade for 2668 02:20:40,920 --> 02:20:45,400 Speaker 1: that here. Could you see it? I could see Bill's 2669 02:20:45,440 --> 02:20:47,720 Speaker 1: mafia getting a couple of cars and floats together and 2670 02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:51,000 Speaker 1: some streamers and balloons and having a party. Us having 2671 02:20:51,280 --> 02:20:55,080 Speaker 1: the biggest parade, but I can also see thirty one 2672 02:20:55,160 --> 02:20:58,800 Speaker 1: other teams having a small parade too. I mean obvious. 2673 02:20:58,920 --> 02:21:03,880 Speaker 1: But he's got more wind against the league, and I 2674 02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:09,320 Speaker 1: get that. But his winning percentage against the entire league 2675 02:21:09,560 --> 02:21:12,800 Speaker 1: pretty good. Again, everybody, He's pretty good against everybody. It's 2676 02:21:12,840 --> 02:21:18,080 Speaker 1: just been that we haven't had that quarterback like yeah, 2677 02:21:18,480 --> 02:21:21,760 Speaker 1: Kelly and Marino to challenge him. Right, it's been a strength. 2678 02:21:21,840 --> 02:21:26,480 Speaker 1: It's been a stranglehold on the division. When the retirement 2679 02:21:26,600 --> 02:21:29,040 Speaker 1: comes and we now know it's a win, not a if. 2680 02:21:30,840 --> 02:21:32,520 Speaker 1: I'm getting the hair standing up on the back of 2681 02:21:32,600 --> 02:21:34,880 Speaker 1: my neck already here. THURM just thinking about it because 2682 02:21:34,920 --> 02:21:38,040 Speaker 1: when he's gone, Oh man, I gotta believe life's gonna 2683 02:21:38,040 --> 02:21:40,480 Speaker 1: be a lot easier to vision, Why don't you. Yeah, 2684 02:21:41,760 --> 02:21:46,360 Speaker 1: that's what I'm hoping. Yeah, because there, if you think 2685 02:21:46,360 --> 02:21:48,840 Speaker 1: about it right now, there really isn't a super dominant 2686 02:21:49,040 --> 02:21:51,800 Speaker 1: AFC team beyond them, which is why they've had such 2687 02:21:51,840 --> 02:21:55,320 Speaker 1: a stranglehold. Next team would be Pittsburgh, yeah or yeah, 2688 02:21:55,400 --> 02:21:57,640 Speaker 1: next team would be Pittsburgh you're right, Thuram, thanks for 2689 02:21:57,720 --> 02:22:00,760 Speaker 1: coming in. We appreciate your time. Noble help today co 2690 02:22:00,879 --> 02:22:02,800 Speaker 1: hosting the show. Murph will be back tomorrow. I'll be 2691 02:22:02,840 --> 02:22:06,280 Speaker 1: alongside him. This is One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. 2692 02:22:06,400 --> 02:22:08,480 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening and thanks for watching here on Buffalo 2693 02:22:08,560 --> 02:22:09,160 Speaker 1: Bills Radio