Speaker 1: Hell, I Suck at Dating with de Nungler and Jared
Speaker 1: Haven and I heard radio podcast What's going on? Everyone?
Speaker 1: Welcome to help I suck at dating? And per our
Speaker 1: usual format, these days, we have some incredible guests joining us.
Speaker 1: We have Tanna Gilmore and Kelly Fisher. Um, I hope
Speaker 1: I'm saying, is it Tanna? Yeah? Right? Yeah? Nice? You
Speaker 1: guys are the match making do oh, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We appreciate it. Thanks for having us.
Speaker 1: We're so excited to be here. It's happy to talk
Speaker 1: about dating. Oh my gosh, Well that's all we talk about.
Speaker 1: Help I suck at dating? Um, so, I guess I
Speaker 1: gotta ask you guys help people suck at dating? Suck
Speaker 1: less at dating? Then? Yeah, that's our specialty. People come
Speaker 1: to us suck at dating. Okay, well here we are.
Speaker 1: We suck at dating. Help us. No, I'm just kidding. Actually,
Speaker 1: uh we do. We do that. We suck and we
Speaker 1: do take all the help we can get. But so,
Speaker 1: tell us what do you guys typically specialize in, Like
Speaker 1: you guys help people wink up and meet or is
Speaker 1: it more of like let's say people already dating and
Speaker 1: you help them kind of navigate those waters. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would say we specialize and very successful singles actually who
Speaker 1: have really you know, put all of the time into
Speaker 1: their career and building you know, their place in the
Speaker 1: in the industry and in corporate America. Some celebrities, and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden they turn around, they're like, wait,
Speaker 1: I haven't had a date in like five years, seven years.
Speaker 1: I mean it goes up and up and up for
Speaker 1: a lot of first you know time serial daters. They
Speaker 1: just can't get past the first date. You know, so
Speaker 1: they get they meet people, but we always say, okay,
Speaker 1: they have no skills. For whatever reason, it just never
Speaker 1: moves on. So we specialize and probably those two. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and you know we're interestingly enough. The pulse in the
Speaker 1: culture of dating, you know, it changes like every year.
Speaker 1: It's so different. Like some people they may have been
Speaker 1: in a relationship for you know, four or five years
Speaker 1: or whatever, and now they've been out of the game
Speaker 1: for a minute, they're like, whoa, whoa, what is this?
Speaker 1: What's all this text and foolishness, let's all this go
Speaker 1: stint foolitionist, Like they have no idea how to even
Speaker 1: maneuver in the in the dating space. So we have
Speaker 1: to kind of bring them up to speed on what
Speaker 1: dating is like today because it's different than what it
Speaker 1: was last year. Even Yeah, absolutely, it's funny, uh because
Speaker 1: we were just talking to Deandrew about being signal in
Speaker 1: Los Angeles and how difficult it can be sometimes. But
Speaker 1: it's mostly it comes down to the guys. I feel
Speaker 1: like I just don't know how to act, you know,
Speaker 1: Like I feel like it's it's it's like they're not
Speaker 1: opening conversations. Maybe they don't know how to carry on
Speaker 1: a conversation, how to bridge the gap from the first
Speaker 1: meeting into the first day into the second day, and
Speaker 1: all those kind of things. So what do you kind
Speaker 1: of see as like the biggest roadblock in a lot
Speaker 1: of those things. Is it really just meeting the people
Speaker 1: or is it what's like the biggest difficulty? You know,
Speaker 1: I would say that especially prefer some of the guys
Speaker 1: that come to us. A lot of them are socially awkward.
Speaker 1: Like we get a lot of tech eas I mean
Speaker 1: they're they're sit behind a computer all day long and
Speaker 1: they they you know, interface with the computer. They're not
Speaker 1: really front facing with the public, so they don't they
Speaker 1: lack those social skills. They come to us and say,
Speaker 1: you know, I don't even know what to say to women.
Speaker 1: I don't know what to you know, even how to
Speaker 1: approach her, Like what do I know? Help me? And
Speaker 1: so you know, they don't they don't know, They just
Speaker 1: don't know. So we provide them with those skills as
Speaker 1: to like what do you say when you approach her?
Speaker 1: Like we're like lead with a compliment and like who
Speaker 1: what compliment? So those types of of things we help
Speaker 1: with as well. Um, so I guess what is your
Speaker 1: success rate of like people who just like randomly approach
Speaker 1: you and then you get them into an actual relationship,
Speaker 1: Like how often do you see that? Or do you
Speaker 1: just like help them launch into like the dating world
Speaker 1: in general, or do you like walk them through an
Speaker 1: entire relationship. Yeah, so we have an eight seven percent
Speaker 1: success rate. It kind of varies with a couple of points.
Speaker 1: But I mean a lot of people come to us
Speaker 1: for different things that we offer date coaching. So, like
Speaker 1: we said, a lot of times people don't even know
Speaker 1: where to begin. They don't have any conversation, you know,
Speaker 1: they're just like, you know, what do what do I
Speaker 1: even say? If someone says, you know, tell me about yourself.
Speaker 1: So we're starting from there. So if that's what they
Speaker 1: come to us for, then we say it's a success
Speaker 1: if they've gotten out in their dating and they're successful. Um.
Speaker 1: But we also have people who just you know, don't
Speaker 1: have a chance to meet anybody, and so we introduced
Speaker 1: them and we actually have our we call them lovely aison.
Speaker 1: So we have some staff that there's social lights. They
Speaker 1: go out all the time and they bring out singles
Speaker 1: for us to interview and we actually do, um, introduce
Speaker 1: them to matches until um, we find a suitable match. Thanks,
Speaker 1: you guys have really been you guys get a whole
Speaker 1: empire out there. It sounds like, yeah, we're building legacy here.
Speaker 1: How did you guys get into this? You know it's interesting.
Speaker 1: We knew you're gonna ask that questions. So so Kenny
Speaker 1: and I were both um senior vps in corporate where
Speaker 1: we used to be marketing and advertising executives. So we
Speaker 1: used some market products and services. Now we market people.
Speaker 1: But how how we morphed into this business? Though? Um,
Speaker 1: we would be surprised at the end of a presentation
Speaker 1: like these C level executives will have us hemmed up
Speaker 1: in the corner telling us all of their personal business,
Speaker 1: and we were like, did you hear with this person's
Speaker 1: Like we could not believe they would just like release
Speaker 1: everything to us. And we would just sit down with them,
Speaker 1: like pull up a chair and just kick our feet
Speaker 1: up and just have a conversation and kind of help
Speaker 1: them get through it. And this happened like every single time,
Speaker 1: and so we realized that, you know, we're pretty good
Speaker 1: at this. And until and then we also went through
Speaker 1: our own personal relationships struggles and kind of coached each other,
Speaker 1: helped each other with it, and we decided, you know what,
Speaker 1: let's let's do this full time. Let's go back to school,
Speaker 1: let's get credential and launch our business. And here we are. Nice,
Speaker 1: I love it and you guys are crushing it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: thank you. Blew up to New York and once to
Speaker 1: the Matchmaking Institute, we became certified and the rest is history.
Speaker 1: That was like almost ten years ago. So Nice, I've
Speaker 1: got a question. We we talked about it amongst ourselves
Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. What's you guys stance on dating apps?
Speaker 1: Because they become so apparent and dating culture these days,
Speaker 1: So what you guys is like opinion of them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we love dating apps. I think it's a great way.
Speaker 1: I think we embraced them. So even when people come
Speaker 1: to us and say I'd love to get on dating apps,
Speaker 1: can you help, and we help them with their booth file.
Speaker 1: We helped them right there, summaries so that it's fun
Speaker 1: and flirty. Sometimes they come in with like a LinkedIn
Speaker 1: kind of boring you know summary, but it has to
Speaker 1: be like conversational. So again it's like you know, you're
Speaker 1: going in for an interview and people are looking at
Speaker 1: your pictures and all of that. So we think it's
Speaker 1: it's a great way to meet people. But again, like
Speaker 1: a lot of people come to us and say, I
Speaker 1: can't meet someone, whether it's you know, Atlanta, whether it's
Speaker 1: l a where it just really depends on the skills too.
Speaker 1: So you have to be like open to having conversation.
Speaker 1: You have to be more assertive, um, and you have
Speaker 1: to be kind of flirtatious to keep it out of
Speaker 1: the friend zone. You know. It's interesting because we um
Speaker 1: embrace like the dating sites and the dating apps. And
Speaker 1: I met my husband on a dating site like twenty
Speaker 1: years ago. Like I was probably the only one on
Speaker 1: a dating site twenty years ago. They were like they
Speaker 1: were dating, they were dating sites twenty years ago. Yes,
Speaker 1: we met on a dating site twenty years ago, so
Speaker 1: of course, you know, I embrace it. But it's just
Speaker 1: all about the approach. I mean, where else are you
Speaker 1: going to have access to that many singles in the
Speaker 1: palm of your hand? Swiping, swiping, swiping, I mean you're
Speaker 1: never going to see that many singles probably rowing the
Speaker 1: same way as you anywhere else in the country, But
Speaker 1: on an app, there's thousands right at your fingertips. Do
Speaker 1: you think it's been a detriment to dating at all
Speaker 1: or do you think it's helped it? Uh? In the
Speaker 1: big picture of things, I think I think that people
Speaker 1: have gotten lazy though, you know, they sit there and
Speaker 1: it prevents them from actually like going out and interacting
Speaker 1: and having the actual you know, build up the courage
Speaker 1: to socialize and introduce yourself and start a conversation. And
Speaker 1: that's the organic way that it used to be, right,
Speaker 1: But the apps have absolutely I think, um, it made
Speaker 1: people lazy where they can just kind of sit on
Speaker 1: their couch, jink a glass, inline, kick their feet up
Speaker 1: and just swipe, swipe, swape, swapes said, they're a cute
Speaker 1: swipe swipes, you know, I mean, and then they just
Speaker 1: want to have these electron and put morphs into an
Speaker 1: electronic relationship. So you know, they they sometimes they never
Speaker 1: get out and actually meet, They never get on the phone.
Speaker 1: They just kind of have this electronic relationship. Well, you
Speaker 1: can't build an emotional connection that way unless you actually
Speaker 1: have face time or phone time. Yeah, I think there's
Speaker 1: a downside to it also. I mean I see where
Speaker 1: people because you can have another date tomorrow, they never
Speaker 1: make a decision. So I mean you can have somebody
Speaker 1: wonderful in front of you and you're like, well maybe
Speaker 1: if I swipe again, you know, there might be someone else.
Speaker 1: It's like, you have someone great right in front of you, like,
Speaker 1: just go for it. But because there's so many choices,
Speaker 1: you know, people just keep going and they're like, now
Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna date three or four people and
Speaker 1: just continue going. When you have somebody, like when you
Speaker 1: have somebody great, it's hard to realize you know, I
Speaker 1: have someone I need. You know, that's it for getting
Speaker 1: out of the app, because I have friends who go
Speaker 1: on apps and they have these relationships built and then
Speaker 1: actually getting out into the real world and like taking
Speaker 1: that next step is really inflating because you feel kind
Speaker 1: of safe and exactly, Yeah, you can kind of hide
Speaker 1: behind the app. So we always encourage our clients too,
Speaker 1: because they want to keep texting on the app. So
Speaker 1: the whole point of being on the app is getting
Speaker 1: off of it and having a conversation. But it's so
Speaker 1: much easier. I mean, like we always say it's easier
Speaker 1: to text too. We try to get our clients off
Speaker 1: of texting and like onto the phone. So when you
Speaker 1: get onto the phone or you're actually meeting somebody on
Speaker 1: the date, that's when you know, the real skills come out.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of where we come in. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: interesting because that's where it does prevent them from utilizing
Speaker 1: social skills because they don't really have to. So you
Speaker 1: lose those social skills if you don't use them, you know,
Speaker 1: like you know repeatedly, you just you lose them. Yeah, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And what do you guys advise as far as like
Speaker 1: when people are dating, if they're dating multiple people, when
Speaker 1: do you advise, Like, okay, maybe at like one month,
Speaker 1: two months, three months, that's when you need to decide
Speaker 1: whether or not you want to take it to a
Speaker 1: different level of this person, Like what's your timeline as
Speaker 1: far as dating or is there no timeline? And when
Speaker 1: you believe that people are wasting their time. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't think that you know, there's an actual timeline. It
Speaker 1: just depends on if you both have the same end goal.
Speaker 1: So if you're dating three people, we always say we
Speaker 1: have three are we have we for our clients to
Speaker 1: date three in rotation? We say three in rotation, right,
Speaker 1: but it has to be three growing the same way,
Speaker 1: three with the same end goal. And then they'll start
Speaker 1: to eliminate themselves. You'll start to feel where you feel
Speaker 1: closest to that individual with you know, you'll start to
Speaker 1: feel that experiences there and you're like, you know, I
Speaker 1: just kind of like this on a little bit more
Speaker 1: than that one, and they'll eliminate themselves eventually. So I
Speaker 1: don't know that there's certainly like a timeline, but you
Speaker 1: certainly don't want to waste time with just random dating
Speaker 1: for no reason. Most people that come to us are
Speaker 1: dating with intention. They have an intention to enter into
Speaker 1: a long term relationship or eventually marriage. So we don't
Speaker 1: encourage you to just be dating just to be dating,
Speaker 1: so have an end goal in mind and see who
Speaker 1: whose goal aligns with yours. Yeah, you mentioned too that
Speaker 1: you talk to like, uh, maybe it's like some executives
Speaker 1: or something after meetings and stuff like that. I could
Speaker 1: imagine those people being kind of more picky when it
Speaker 1: comes to who they choose to day. So how do
Speaker 1: you navigate that when someone's maybe being like super picky
Speaker 1: or uh, not being very sponsive to a lot of
Speaker 1: the advice you're giving. Do you guys ever deal with
Speaker 1: that kind of stuff? Yeah, I mean we have clients
Speaker 1: who I mean, if anybody could be a fly on
Speaker 1: the wall, which I think is a good thing about
Speaker 1: this show. I mean, could to see like the list
Speaker 1: that come to us when people who are then all
Speaker 1: the laundry lists of things that the person has to be,
Speaker 1: the person has to bring, and then we kind of
Speaker 1: turned the tables on them and like okay, well what
Speaker 1: are you bringing? And it's like crickets. So we really
Speaker 1: like them to to really take some time because you know,
Speaker 1: when you go out on a date, people are looking
Speaker 1: both ways, so it's not like you're going we call
Speaker 1: it a date re view, so you're not going in
Speaker 1: to interview this person and then just leave like you
Speaker 1: have to have something to share also, so we kind
Speaker 1: of give them that information that you want to really
Speaker 1: hone in on what you're bringing to the table that's
Speaker 1: different from everybody else. Yeah, but you know what, so
Speaker 1: so UM and answer your question. The corporate UM people
Speaker 1: especially like the men and so not to pick on men,
Speaker 1: because we love our male clients, but they the more
Speaker 1: money they have, the more picky and demanding they are.
Speaker 1: They want to come in and say, you know, I
Speaker 1: want someone um that have this certain ways to hip ratio.
Speaker 1: You know, we're like, what what you know? First of all,
Speaker 1: you know what, she has two kids, it's going to expand, right,
Speaker 1: so you understand that that's how this works? Or are
Speaker 1: you going to pay to keep that that body up?
Speaker 1: I mean, so they come in with those types of demands.
Speaker 1: It seems like the more money they have, the more
Speaker 1: demands they have, and they feel like we can We're
Speaker 1: just magicians. We can just you know, okay, here you go.
Speaker 1: Here's like a lot of them that meet your criteria.
Speaker 1: You go. But that's not how matchmaking works. So it
Speaker 1: sounds like you have to often encourage them maybe that's
Speaker 1: like lower their standards, but to shift their standards a
Speaker 1: little bit more realistic, which is a hard conversation to
Speaker 1: have because people think, you know, the more money they
Speaker 1: have that they can command a certain type of person,
Speaker 1: which sometimes they can and sometimes they can. So that's
Speaker 1: a tough conversation behind like you know, four walls. It's
Speaker 1: not so funny to think about too, because like, obviously
Speaker 1: money can buy you so many things in life, but
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, it's like it can't
Speaker 1: really help you there. I mean, you would be like,
Speaker 1: help you get your foot in the door, but at
Speaker 1: the end of the day, it's not gonna give you
Speaker 1: exactly what you want, right, it's not now. But you know,
Speaker 1: we have to have those conversations pretty often. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: are people that you guys help or won't help. So
Speaker 1: like you're like, well, we won't help any this one
Speaker 1: this young, or we won't help anyone this older. Is
Speaker 1: it like anyone under the sun? Like you guys healthy.
Speaker 1: You know, let's say they're range of people that come
Speaker 1: to us are like between twenty nine and fifty five.
Speaker 1: You know, usually I would say the sweets abot is
Speaker 1: between in the thirties, um early forties. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's not really about the age that we won't help us,
Speaker 1: more about the personality. So a lot of people will
Speaker 1: come in and tell us like, you know, kind of
Speaker 1: trying to take over our process, and we're like, you know,
Speaker 1: you're in our community, that you're in our world, so
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to if this hasn't been working, you're
Speaker 1: gonna have to take some advice from us. So a
Speaker 1: lot of times the ones that we won't take are
Speaker 1: the ones that just don't listen. So it's gonna be hard,
Speaker 1: like pulling teeth back and forth trying to tell them
Speaker 1: something they're not listening. So we don't even take the
Speaker 1: kind of we always say, are you coachable? So if
Speaker 1: you're not coachable, it doesn't matter what. It's not gonna work,
Speaker 1: you know. But I will tell you though this year,
Speaker 1: probably last year, over the last couple of years, we've
Speaker 1: gotten younger and younger clients. Like our sweet spot is
Speaker 1: somewhere around the forty range, because these are career people
Speaker 1: that have, like like Kelly mentioned earlier, they've taken the
Speaker 1: fast track out of college to like advanced you know, degrees,
Speaker 1: and then they've climbed the corporate ladder and they roll
Speaker 1: over and like there's nobody here. There kids, there's no spouse,
Speaker 1: there's no you know, and so those and then that's
Speaker 1: when they are waving the white flag, and that's when
Speaker 1: they come to us. But here recently, like in this
Speaker 1: last year, we've gotten like twenty four year old and like,
Speaker 1: you know, si year old. I mean that's young for
Speaker 1: someone to say, you know whoa I I don't know
Speaker 1: what I'm doing and and are willing to invest this
Speaker 1: type of money at that age. So when they come
Speaker 1: to us at that age, we used to be like,
Speaker 1: you know, they're probably too young for this process, but
Speaker 1: they're not. That's a sweet spot. Congratulations to them for
Speaker 1: making a decision so early to say what I'm doing
Speaker 1: isn't working and I'm going to invest in me and
Speaker 1: hire profess show that can help me in the areas
Speaker 1: that i'm weakend right, Why do you think the people
Speaker 1: have gotten younger asking for help with dating? Do you
Speaker 1: think it's because of doing you know, the dating apps
Speaker 1: and stuff like that, or do you think because of
Speaker 1: COVID Maybe people aren't like aren't used interactions. I think
Speaker 1: that matchmaking is just there's not as much of a
Speaker 1: stigma against it. You know, people would say, for oh gosh,
Speaker 1: you have to hire a matchmaker, there's something must be
Speaker 1: wrong with you. But I think it's just becoming more
Speaker 1: commonplace that you know, you hire a headhunter if you're
Speaker 1: looking for a job, you hire you know, a life coach.
Speaker 1: If you're looking for something else you have are your
Speaker 1: a matchmaker if you're having you know, problems in your
Speaker 1: dating and relationship life. So it's not really as you know,
Speaker 1: that stigma that people would say, oh my gosh, something's wrong,
Speaker 1: even like mental health. I mean, that's something that we're
Speaker 1: all embracing now that we didn't before. So I think
Speaker 1: just personal you know, on professional development is like more
Speaker 1: um accepted at this point. I'm thinking, and I think
Speaker 1: that some of the younger generation there there, if they
Speaker 1: didn't meet anybody in college and they're seeing their friends
Speaker 1: and college getting married by out of college, they're like, WHOA,
Speaker 1: So there's a reason why I'm not chosen And they
Speaker 1: start feeling that that, you know, that self pity, like
Speaker 1: why haven't I gotten into a relationship, Why hasn't anyone
Speaker 1: chosen me? Why? Why can't I seem to get this right,
Speaker 1: and and so that particular age, they're taking it on
Speaker 1: almost like the next level of education. So they're so
Speaker 1: they're continuing their education from college to Okay, let me
Speaker 1: go ahead and and get and gain these skills so
Speaker 1: I can figure this relationship thing out here. It's so
Speaker 1: funny how we love to follow what our friends are
Speaker 1: doing too. I feel like one of the reasons that
Speaker 1: I'm so comfortable being in a relationship now is because
Speaker 1: so many of my friends are in relationships, Whereas when
Speaker 1: I was like twenty three, everyone was single, so it's
Speaker 1: like all we wanted to do is be single. But
Speaker 1: now you know, everyone's in relationship, so it kind of like, okay,
Speaker 1: well let's see, let's give this thing a shot. Yeah. So,
Speaker 1: so when you guys are bringing on a new client
Speaker 1: or or prospective client, what do they have to go
Speaker 1: through in order to be like onboard by you guys.
Speaker 1: Do you just sit down and talk with them or
Speaker 1: do you have them go through a whole process? Mhm, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that. So, so initially they'll contact us UM
Speaker 1: and then our implementation director will reach out to them
Speaker 1: and kind of do like a pretty screening and set
Speaker 1: them up for like a strategy session, and they'll get
Speaker 1: an opportunity to meet with both myself and Kelly and
Speaker 1: then we just drill them. We learn more about their personality,
Speaker 1: we learn more about their past challenges, and then we
Speaker 1: make a decision based off of what we've uncovered if
Speaker 1: they're a good fit to work with us or not.
Speaker 1: And we usually tell them on the spot, you know,
Speaker 1: whether we feel like they would be a good client
Speaker 1: for us UM and we turned down many because we
Speaker 1: don't work with everybody. What would be like a reason
Speaker 1: you would turn someone down? Yeah, I mean, I think
Speaker 1: the reason one reason that we turn people down a
Speaker 1: lot of times is, like we said, they don't listen,
Speaker 1: so they're kind of coming in and taking over the
Speaker 1: whole conversation station. Like sometimes we can't even get a
Speaker 1: word in, and we're just like why are we here?
Speaker 1: Like you're telling us what to do and what not
Speaker 1: to do, Like why are we all sitting here? If
Speaker 1: you have all the answers or we might give some
Speaker 1: suggestions and they're like, oh no, no that doesn't work
Speaker 1: because such, So I mean, why are we here? So
Speaker 1: it's kind of like, you know, that's how the whole
Speaker 1: process is gonna be you can feel that that's gonna
Speaker 1: be like a tug of war, and we just don't
Speaker 1: even go there. But I think the other thing is
Speaker 1: that's good when people contact us, even if we don't
Speaker 1: take them on, they can join our database and so
Speaker 1: that's like a complementary um place where it's confidential and
Speaker 1: everyone can put in there, you know, their picture and
Speaker 1: their stats and their information and kind of what their
Speaker 1: challenges have been. And that's the first place we look
Speaker 1: when we have a client who's looking for someone in
Speaker 1: their area. So it's not open to the public, but
Speaker 1: that is the first place that we look at. And
Speaker 1: it's free. So that's a great option if we don't
Speaker 1: end up working together. And they also get you know,
Speaker 1: information about upcoming events and all of us. They get
Speaker 1: to stay close to us, um you know, if something
Speaker 1: happens to come up that they're a good match for.
Speaker 1: And that's actually gonna be my next question. And I
Speaker 1: was like, so, do you have like an entire database
Speaker 1: and you're only matching people within this database or you
Speaker 1: like in the community, like making them go to events
Speaker 1: where there's other people who don't even know you guys
Speaker 1: that you're trying to match somewhere, Like, how does that work? Yeah,
Speaker 1: So in this industry, some matchmakers and some companies will
Speaker 1: match client to client. However we don't because, um, you know,
Speaker 1: John over here may not be a good fit for
Speaker 1: Ashley over here just because there are two clients, I
Speaker 1: mean that they're right for each other. So we pride
Speaker 1: ourselves on our coaching so we can uncover the type
Speaker 1: of person that you need versus who you want, and
Speaker 1: then we go out and heart hunt for that specific person.
Speaker 1: So it could be you know, we may start in
Speaker 1: our database or we also belong to like a international
Speaker 1: matchmaking alliance with thousands of matchmakers and we can pull
Speaker 1: from each other's databases. Um, but we still bring them
Speaker 1: in the house to screen them our way. We have
Speaker 1: recruiters that are all across the country that go to
Speaker 1: yacht club events and you know sweets sweets at the
Speaker 1: the you know, NBA or something like that, like those
Speaker 1: types of places. Um, and they're they're out anyway like looking,
Speaker 1: and so they bring them in house and put them
Speaker 1: into our database and then we just screening from there.
Speaker 1: So so many ways that we you know, we source
Speaker 1: and find them right now, do you guys have like
Speaker 1: a minimum requirement for uh, it just it just sounds
Speaker 1: like you guys work mostly with like wealthy people. Do
Speaker 1: you guys have like a minimum requirement for that. No, now,
Speaker 1: because we what we found are a lot of people
Speaker 1: who make a lot of money. Sometimes they're in a
Speaker 1: lot of debts. So it's not like, you know, you
Speaker 1: don't just come and say, oh, I make such and
Speaker 1: such amount, because you can be like broken than a
Speaker 1: joke really, so you know, it's not really an amount.
Speaker 1: It's more about like how if they can afford it,
Speaker 1: and you know, it's really more about them being able
Speaker 1: to want to do something differently in their personality SOT.
Speaker 1: So you don't have you have to be like a
Speaker 1: like a minimum standard of of socialism. I guess it's
Speaker 1: like socialitism or guests, right, Not really, no, no, not really,
Speaker 1: it's just, um, I just think a lot of people
Speaker 1: that come to us are in the professional arena. So
Speaker 1: it's not always CEO THO and celebrities, but it's a
Speaker 1: lot of times it is just people who don't have
Speaker 1: the skills are just not able to get out socially
Speaker 1: to meet um other people. And I also think that
Speaker 1: these people also resonate with us because they feel like
Speaker 1: we have a certain level of success that they trust us,
Speaker 1: you know, with their brand, they trust us with their
Speaker 1: innermost personal thoughts and so you know, those are the
Speaker 1: things so they feel more comfortable with us, I believe
Speaker 1: because of the level of success that we've had. Yeah. Absolutely, Well,
Speaker 1: before we let you guys go, is there any advice
Speaker 1: you can give our listeners out there that might be
Speaker 1: struggling to either make that first connection or get to
Speaker 1: the second date. Um, any any kind of advice you
Speaker 1: have for them maybe trying to bridge that gap, or
Speaker 1: any type of advice whatsoever. Well, I think that you know,
Speaker 1: dating has gotten to the point where we just put
Speaker 1: so much pressure on It's like dating is this whole
Speaker 1: scary thing. Like I think if we just get back
Speaker 1: to just getting out and meeting new people, like as
Speaker 1: soon as you leave your place of residents or when
Speaker 1: you go outside the door, like you're we always say
Speaker 1: you're on the market twenty four hours, seven days a week.
Speaker 1: So just make sure that you look approachable, make sure
Speaker 1: that you're smiling, make sure that you're open some meeting
Speaker 1: new people. That is really it's like a numbers game.
Speaker 1: So you don't. We don't want to just wait until
Speaker 1: you see someone like this. You know, girl looks great,
Speaker 1: of this guy looks amazing. Let me go. Just be
Speaker 1: open to having conversations. You don't know if a friend
Speaker 1: of a friend can introduce you. So I think just
Speaker 1: being more social, sociable, um will really help with dating
Speaker 1: and not putting so much pressure on it. It's like
Speaker 1: it doesn't have to be as serious as it is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I would echo that, and I also would say, you know,
Speaker 1: try to stay out of electronic relationships. Like you cannot
Speaker 1: build an emotional connection via text. You can't understand the tone,
Speaker 1: you can't understand that delivery. So we say, you know,
Speaker 1: jump on the phone as quickly as possible. Utilize even
Speaker 1: though we're in a pandemic, it's fine. Utilize you know, zoom, utilize,
Speaker 1: you know, FaceTime. There's so many virtual platforms that you
Speaker 1: can use to start connecting with someone and you can
Speaker 1: safely go out and meet them. I mean, our goal
Speaker 1: is for you to get into a space organically and
Speaker 1: just see if there's chemistry, because as matchmakers, we can
Speaker 1: control compatibility. However we can't control chemistry. You have to
Speaker 1: uncover if there's chemistry there or not. Ye. Yeah, absolutely well, Kelly,
Speaker 1: I like what you said. When you're you know, when
Speaker 1: you're single, you're on the market exactly. I'm grateful that
Speaker 1: I'm not single because I look like this piece of
Speaker 1: crap and so it's uh right, very very very lucky
Speaker 1: though that's the case. Um well, guys, thank you so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. For listeners out there, be sure
Speaker 1: to check them out. It's uh the matchmaking doo dot com, right,
Speaker 1: they can find some more information on you guys there
Speaker 1: or on the social media's the matchmaking will join us
Speaker 1: and be part of our community. Would love to have
Speaker 1: you there. You go, heck yeah, join them, be part
Speaker 1: of the community and find love that you guys so
Speaker 1: much for joining us. We can't wait to uh hear
Speaker 1: more from you to our show. Please to into let
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