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Speaker 1: Hi, and welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 1: Last week, I read a note from a friend who

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Speaker 1: took some issue with my pro marriage perspective. Today, I'm

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Speaker 1: going to read a note from a listener that I

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Speaker 1: also want to explore. I'm going to cut out some

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Speaker 1: parts of the email where he gives identifying information. I

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Speaker 1: grew up reading the New York Post, and I started

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Speaker 1: following your articles during the COVID period, where you seem

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Speaker 1: to be one of the only people making sense. I

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Speaker 1: also agree with all your other points on school choice,

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Speaker 1: merit based admissions, and anti.

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Speaker 2: Wokeness in general.

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Speaker 1: I started listening to your podcast and particularly enjoy the monologues,

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Speaker 1: and it was a very smart strategy to keep all

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Speaker 1: episodes under thirty minutes, which is perfect for a typical commute.

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Speaker 2: Good job with that.

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Speaker 1: One thing I don't agree with you on, however, is

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Speaker 1: your stance on marriage, especially for men. One thing that

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Speaker 1: also happened to me during the COVID years I got divorced.

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Speaker 2: It is tough for me to even type that.

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Speaker 1: Word, not by my choice. With two kids in preschool.

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Speaker 1: I fully understand the point you and your guests keep

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Speaker 1: stressing that you are better off in life, especially financially,

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Speaker 1: if you follow the path of graduation, marriage, kids. That

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Speaker 1: is what I did For most people. That works. But

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Speaker 1: one thing you failed to mention is that if and

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Speaker 1: when it doesn't work, the family court laws are so

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Speaker 1: stacked against men that they can be near ruined financially,

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Speaker 1: not to mention emotionally by the decisions of another that

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Speaker 1: they have absolutely no control of. This is doubly as

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Speaker 1: bad if you have kids, and triply as bad if

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Speaker 1: you were the sole source of income or if there

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Speaker 1: was a large income disparity. Yes, part of the answer

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Speaker 1: is to be more careful will you marry, But even so,

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Speaker 1: people can change their mind, especially after major life changes

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Speaker 1: such as having kids were relocating. The divorce courts don't

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Speaker 1: really require a reason, but the higher earner, usually the man,

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Speaker 1: is still responsible for certain things financially, mainly child support,

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Speaker 1: even if he has fifty percent or more child placement,

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Speaker 1: or the woman gets remarried to someone wealthy. There are

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Speaker 1: no exceptions in that case. One partner can change their

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Speaker 1: mind and back out of a contract, essentially get rewarded

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Speaker 1: for it, and then continue to get rewarded. Any system

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Speaker 1: that allows that to be the case is a broken

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Speaker 1: system and should not be recommended. The same topic has

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Speaker 1: come up in your Twitter comments before, so I know

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Speaker 1: I'm not the only guy that feels this way. I

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Speaker 1: wish this topic would be discussed more, especially as a

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Speaker 1: warning to young men. It's not about staying single forever

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Speaker 1: to party or sleep around. It's about protecting yourself.

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Speaker 2: End quote.

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Speaker 1: I do hear this perspective from men a lot, and

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about it. I'm not a lawyer,

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Speaker 1: and I admit this system does sound very broken. I

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Speaker 1: know there's also the child custody laws that very much

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Speaker 1: favor the women. I've heard this from men before. I

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Speaker 1: don't know the solution to fixing the courts, and obviously

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Speaker 1: each individual situation is different. By the way, If you

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Speaker 1: do have a solution to fixing the courts, I'd love

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Speaker 1: to hear from you. I'd love to read more about it.

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Speaker 1: If you've got something to tell me, email me or

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Speaker 1: tweet at me. But when I talk about marriage being

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Speaker 1: a good thing, I'm obviously talking in broader strokes. I'm

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Speaker 1: very sorry you're marriage didn't work out, and I really

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Speaker 1: understand the pain when you did all you could to

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Speaker 1: make it work. My question here would be what will

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Speaker 1: you tell your own kids? Will you tell them to

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Speaker 1: spend their lives alone and not get married.

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Speaker 3: Not have children.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the marriage contract comes with risks, but it also

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Speaker 1: comes with a lot of rewards that I have outlined

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Speaker 1: in previous columns and on this show. It's not perfect.

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Speaker 1: There is no perfect. I want people to know that

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Speaker 1: I hear them. I know it's not easy, and we're

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Speaker 1: all trying to move towards something better. I'm going to

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Speaker 1: be thinking about this whether men get a bad bargain

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Speaker 1: in marriage despite all the obvious benefits, and I'll try

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Speaker 1: to address it in future episodes. Coming up next and

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Speaker 1: interview with Jesse Kelly. Join us after the break.

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Speaker 4: Welcome back to the Carol Markowitz Show on iHeartRadio. My

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Speaker 4: guest today is Jesse Kelly, host of The Jesse Kelly

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Speaker 4: Show and author of the best selling book The Anti

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Speaker 4: Communist Manifesto.

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Speaker 3: Hi Jesse, Hi Carol.

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Speaker 5: Yes, it was an incredible book, if I say so myself,

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Speaker 5: and I know.

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Speaker 4: You do say so yourself, so I wanted to say

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Speaker 5: Thanks, Carol, Thanks, I appreciate you. I appreciate it. It's

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Speaker 4: I thought it was really good. I thought it was

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Speaker 4: a very well done book. And you know, some humble

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Speaker 4: Jesse kellyness came through in every page, and I think

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Speaker 4: that's what it's really all about.

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Speaker 5: Well, I'm all about humility, Carol. I try to make

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Speaker 5: sure that I lead with my humility, which is incredible.

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Speaker 4: So I know who you are and I know what

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Speaker 4: you do. But to tell my listeners about you, I

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Speaker 4: know our mutual friend Michael Berry, who, by the way,

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Speaker 4: is way too busy to come on my show, so

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Speaker 4: we had to settle for you played some.

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Speaker 2: Role in getting you involved in radio.

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Speaker 3: Tell us how it happened, he did.

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Speaker 5: He played a big role. So I don't traditionally do

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Speaker 5: media like I'm not a media person. I've lived a

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Speaker 5: very normal life like everyone else. We're construction. I came

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Speaker 5: up in a construction family, marines. I've washed dishes, you know.

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Speaker 5: And before I was doing this, I was selling RV's,

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Speaker 5: which is a job I found on Craigslist. I had

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Speaker 5: like ten years ago. I was out of work. I

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Speaker 5: interview and got the job. I'd be pretty good at it,

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Speaker 5: So I was selling arms. I was good at it, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I was. I was surprised to I never sold anything.

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Speaker 5: But the job eventually took me down to Houston, Texas

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Speaker 5: to be the sales manager at some store down here

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Speaker 5: in Houston. And I was getting I was still active

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Speaker 5: always paying attention. But I was putting some things online.

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Speaker 5: And Michael Berry is a huge nationally syndicated conservative talk

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Speaker 3: I did not know him.

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Speaker 5: I did not know at the time, but he saw

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Speaker 5: something I'd put out on Twitter actually, and had his

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Speaker 5: people send me a message, say, hey, you want to

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Speaker 5: come on my show do a radio hit, just talk

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Speaker 5: about and I forget even what it was about. Sure

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Speaker 5: I've done a bunch of radio and TV. Because I'd

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Speaker 5: Congress twice in Arizona, and he's got mad and ran

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Speaker 5: for office. I do stupid impulsive things all the time.

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Speaker 5: I won the primary twice, lost the general election twice. Anyway, Well,

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Speaker 5: I go on Barry's show and I'd done radio, and

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Speaker 5: I was in my RV lot, actually in the sales room.

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Speaker 5: I'm doing a radio hit. I hang up the phone.

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Speaker 5: Don't think of it. I go back selling our vs.

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Speaker 5: That night, I'm heading home. I'm in the mood for

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Speaker 5: something pretty classy. So I go to Taco Bell and

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting there and Taco Bell's driving.

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Speaker 5: Okay, I have the best order. So everyone needs to

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Speaker 5: pay attention here. First of all, two orders of nachos

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Speaker 5: to go Bell Grande or something like that. Two orders

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Speaker 5: That's an option, beef, extra halipedo sauce. And then you

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Speaker 5: get the cheesy gordy to crunch with no lettuce. I'm

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Speaker 5: let us extra spicy ranch. A bunch of Diablo sauce,

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Speaker 5: mountain dew. That's as good as he gets.

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Speaker 4: So I've never had Taco Bell, so I'm going to

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Speaker 4: completely disregard that. I'm going to completely disregard that order,

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Speaker 4: but I am planning to have it soon.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to disregard that order and just get whatever

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Speaker 2: I want. But I wanted to, you know, I wanted

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Speaker 3: Hold on, you've never been to Taco.

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Speaker 2: We've never had Taco Bell.

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Speaker 4: It's my husband's favorite fast food, and yet he has

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Speaker 3: So shame on you.

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Speaker 3: Back to the story.

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Speaker 4: You're getting some ridiculous order with extra jolopano sauce, and then.

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Speaker 5: Taco Bells drive through about to order the best order ever.

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Speaker 3: Okay, I answered the phone. He loves the radio hit.

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Speaker 5: We just started talking about politics and life and everything else.

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Speaker 5: He owned a big honkey tonk bar here in Houston

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Speaker 5: could be really special at it. Well, you know, I

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Speaker 5: love flattery, Carol.

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Speaker 3: Of course, so went right for it. Yeah, of course.

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Speaker 5: Well, and I was getting tired of selling RBS. I

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Speaker 5: I'm not complaining about it at all. It fed my

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Speaker 5: to this day on YouTube. They're a two minute long videos.

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Speaker 5: It was a concept, Michael, when I came up with.

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Speaker 5: one's driving. It's horrible and it killed. So they moved

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Speaker 5: And then a small national syndication company, smaller called Key Networks.

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Speaker 5: They had been listening and I didn't know. You never

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Speaker 4: So A question that I asked people is if you

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Speaker 3: But I love that knowing that that means something. You know.

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Speaker 5: It's better than the paychecks, better than anything else. That's awesome.

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Speaker 5: Well, he needs to have a better life than I do.

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Speaker 3: Come on?

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Speaker 3: Well, two things, Carol.

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Speaker 4: That's the thing, right, You are not a joke to her.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a bit much. I mean, it's too much.

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Speaker 3: Know, six ' four, I probably would have. I'm in

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Speaker 4: We're going to take a quick break and be right

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Speaker 4: back on the Carol Marcowitch Show. I like to look

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Speaker 4: Like, how do we raise our sons to be the

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Speaker 2: You want to raise the.

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Speaker 3: Carol? I don't know, but I want to know, right,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. And you know, look, if one of.

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Speaker 5: So it's not like I want my kids to dive

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Speaker 5: Of course it's solvable. Well it is. This country moved

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Speaker 5: It's what builds nations. When you break up the church,

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Speaker 5: Now that the family's shattered, the nation itself gets shattered.

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Speaker 3: But I'm joking about that. Married and women are great.

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Speaker 5: Single women are the beating heart of all this demonic

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Speaker 5: Now they're starting to go this way. They're going opposite directions.

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Speaker 5: They hate each other. People email me all the time, Jesse,

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Speaker 3: I can't find a man. Jesse, I'm a man. I

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Speaker 5: So they're racing opposite direction now, and that's killing us.

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Speaker 5: It's killing us that they're racing opposite directions. We broke

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Speaker 4: But you think it's solvable, I mean, I don't see

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Speaker 3: Well, God is God, isn't he? So what do we do.

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Speaker 5: Well, either we get back to that or it's not solvable.

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Speaker 5: There's not a second way. You know, there's not a

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Speaker 5: and he'll fix it all without all that's all.

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Speaker 3: That's nonsense, All that's crap. That's not true.

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Speaker 5: That there's no guy that's going to come in and

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Speaker 5: We either choose to be more purposeful with our lives

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Speaker 5: or we're finished. And tell people all the times they

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Speaker 5: want to get involved and they want to fix everything.

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Speaker 3: Jesse, how do I fix it? Jesse? How do I

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Speaker 3: fix us?

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Speaker 5: Are you raising your kids, you go into work, you're

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Speaker 5: teaching people values.

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Speaker 3: Then you're saving the country.

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Speaker 5: These people, these salt of the earth people, the nuclear

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Speaker 5: family is what's holding this country together at all. Right now,

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Speaker 5: you're already doing it. Keep doing it and do more

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Speaker 5: of it. And people ask me if I have regrets

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Speaker 5: in life, and I have many, because I've screwed up

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Speaker 5: so many things in my life and done so many

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Speaker 5: horrible things. But one of my biggest regrets in life, honestly,

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Speaker 5: is I wish I'd had more kids. We had our

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Speaker 5: first James, happy and healthy, and then we had a

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Speaker 5: miscarriage for the second one, and I know a lot

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Speaker 5: of people watching have gone through that, and it hurts, right,

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Speaker 5: it hurts real, real bad, real bad. We still talk

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Speaker 5: about it, still think about it. And then we had

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Speaker 5: our second Luke, happy and healthy, and we were so

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Speaker 5: relieved that we had a second, happy, healthy one that

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Speaker 5: we just said, Okay, I can't do I can't risk

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Speaker 5: it anymore.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to risk it anymore. I'm done.

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Speaker 5: That's called a day, it's called to day. I wish

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Speaker 5: I'd had ten. That's how wonderful it is to be

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Speaker 5: a father, and how wonderful those boys are, and how

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Speaker 5: important it is for the country.

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Speaker 4: I agree, anybody listening and thinking about having another kid,

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Speaker 4: and if you have the time, do it, because I

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Speaker 4: think that's a common regret. We have three kids, I

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Speaker 4: wish we had had more. You know why stop?

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Speaker 3: Really?

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Speaker 4: I get the not wanting to tempt fate and.

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Speaker 6: You're you know, you have two perfect children already and

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Speaker 6: you don't want to you know, you worry about having

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Speaker 6: loss but if you're listening and you're thinking about it,

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Speaker 6: you know, have more kids.

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Speaker 4: Jesse Kelly is not always right, but he's right about this.

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Speaker 4: So tell me your best tip for my listeners on

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Speaker 4: how they can improve their lives. I'm sure, Jesse Kelly,

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Speaker 4: you know lifestyle is for everyone, right.

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Speaker 5: Well, of course, yeah, no, I clearly have figured out

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Speaker 5: the superior way to live over everyone else. I will,

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Speaker 5: and all says, I will tell you this. You need

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Speaker 5: to cut someone off from your life. Everyone ever in

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Speaker 5: this namby Pamby world we have now everyone wants to

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Speaker 5: be nice to everyone and whatnot, and I see it

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Speaker 5: all around me. Women in particular struggle with this, but

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Speaker 5: I see dudes around it. People will allow people with

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Speaker 5: others to stay in their lives. Who just bloodsuck you

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Speaker 5: of energy. That person who calls or texts you when

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Speaker 5: you look.

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Speaker 3: And you go, oh gosh.

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Speaker 5: That person needs to have their number blocked. You need

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Speaker 5: to stop interacting with soul sucking people.

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Speaker 3: Your life is a tree. This is how I describe it.

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Speaker 3: Plants trees.

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Speaker 5: They grow better when the dead stuff gets cut off.

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Speaker 5: You need to be pruning your tree constantly. Have enough

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Speaker 5: confidence in yourself and value yourself enough to treat access

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Speaker 5: to you as if it's a privilege, which it is.

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Speaker 3: Nobody has a right to have access to you.

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Speaker 5: And when someone has violated their access to you, when

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Speaker 5: they violated your energy.

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Speaker 3: Your space, cut someone off.

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Speaker 5: You don't have some obligation to have some weapons grade

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Speaker 5: turd in your life.

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Speaker 3: Cut them off and your life will be better. Trust me.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a really good point.

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Speaker 7: I think also blocking people on Twitter is a really

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Speaker 7: good idea for your sanity or on any social media really,

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Speaker 7: anybody who kind of makes you feel that a feeling

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Speaker 7: really no reason to have them around for them to

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Speaker 7: be able to do that to you.

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Speaker 5: Oh of course, if you look, if you're a net

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Speaker 5: negative on my life, which you brought up Twitter, you

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Speaker 5: brought up social media, that's most people because I don't

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Speaker 5: know them, right, I know you, right, so that's different.

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Speaker 3: But for most people I don't know you.

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Speaker 5: You don't have to commit some horrible, egregious sin to

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Speaker 5: have me block you or cut you off.

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Speaker 3: You've never been a net positive for me at all.

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Speaker 3: If you bring even the tiniest amount of.

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Speaker 5: Net negative, God, because I don't know you, and you

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Speaker 5: know you should do the same to me right your time,

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Speaker 5: your energy is valuable.

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Speaker 3: Cut off turns.

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Speaker 2: I really like that, Jesse.

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Speaker 4: That's, you know, a surprising twist in your personality, because

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Speaker 4: I feel like you come off as like I mean,

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Speaker 4: and you are, but like you know, somebody strong, good

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Speaker 4: deal with all you know, the slings and arrows.

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Speaker 2: But you're saying like, why should you have to?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, people will try to shame you in that too.

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Speaker 5: Well you can't take it? Well I can, but why

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Speaker 5: do I want to? You know, I can do a

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Speaker 5: lot of things. I can go sleep in the desert

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Speaker 5: for weeks at a time and suffer in the sand

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Speaker 5: and misery. But now that I'm not in the Marines anymore,

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Speaker 5: I'm not going to Why Because I don't have to anymore?

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 5: That's it's not a strength contest. Cut toxic people out

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Speaker 5: of your life.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So I've loved talking to you, Jesse.

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Speaker 4: Please say hello to your amazing wife for me, and

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Speaker 4: for my last question, I want to ask you, do

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Speaker 4: you feel like you've made it?

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Speaker 3: No? No, I don't.

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Speaker 5: I hope I never feel like that. Whenever you feel

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Speaker 5: like you've made it. Now, don't get me wrong, I'm

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Speaker 5: very very pleased with my life. I'm the most blessed

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Speaker 5: guy on the planet, and I don't deserve any of

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Speaker 5: these blessings. But I think the second you feel like

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Speaker 5: you've made it, you're going to start drowning. I don't

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Speaker 5: want to start drowning. I don't feel like i've made it.

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Speaker 5: I don't know what's next. I'm very happy with where

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Speaker 5: I am. But no, I don't think that I would

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Speaker 5: ever say I've made it.

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Speaker 3: That's for sure, all right.

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Speaker 4: Thank you so much, Jesse, Thank you for coming on.

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Speaker 4: Love talking to you, you girl, Thanks.

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Speaker 1: So much for joining us on the Carol Marcowitch Show.

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