WEBVTT - America, America IS a Racist Country 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:03.160 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:03.240 --> 0:00:04.640 with Resent Choice Media. 0:00:05.480 --> 0:00:07.040 America. 0:00:07.560 --> 0:00:12.680 America is a racis country. 0:00:16.079 --> 0:00:17.040 What's up, everybody? 0:00:17.040 --> 0:00:20.079 Welcome to the second episode of Native Land Pod, where 0:00:20.079 --> 0:00:23.000 we break down all that's happening in politics, with a 0:00:23.040 --> 0:00:25.840 little bit of culture in there too. Welcome home, y'all, 0:00:25.880 --> 0:00:26.720 go home. 0:00:28.680 --> 0:00:29.640 Welcome home, Sis. 0:00:29.680 --> 0:00:30.040 What's up? 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:30.400 Ladies? 0:00:30.640 --> 0:00:31.320 We are your host. 0:00:31.400 --> 0:00:34.680 I'm Tiffany Cross here with angela Ryan Andrew gillim and 0:00:34.720 --> 0:00:37.040 as you know on Native Land Pod, we give it 0:00:37.040 --> 0:00:38.680 to you straight, no chaser. 0:00:38.760 --> 0:00:39.640 What's going on y'all? 0:00:40.479 --> 0:00:40.919 Everybody? 0:00:42.120 --> 0:00:43.279 Every day? 0:00:43.320 --> 0:00:45.400 Oh, I know one thing is going on all the 0:00:45.400 --> 0:00:47.200 way up and that's Native Land Pod. 0:00:47.400 --> 0:00:50.760 We were one downloaded. 0:00:50.159 --> 0:00:53.280 Podcast on Apple Podcasts. 0:00:56.200 --> 0:00:59.640 How about that. It's not just news, it's not just politics. 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Thank you to those of you all 0:01:34.680 --> 0:01:37.200 who has stuck with us, hung with us through the 0:01:37.319 --> 0:01:41.800 ins and outs, ups and down, tops and turvys. If 0:01:41.920 --> 0:01:44.839 this show with the three of us doesn't represent anything, 0:01:44.880 --> 0:01:50.160 let it represent the fact that your future will be 0:01:50.200 --> 0:01:52.000 greater than your ladder period. 0:01:52.760 --> 0:01:54.880 I knew brother Gil was gonna give us a word 0:01:56.080 --> 0:01:57.680 that's not that's not gonna be the first of the. 0:01:57.720 --> 0:02:02.240 Last that though. That's real, that's real. There's always we 0:02:02.360 --> 0:02:04.960 doubt that in the moment. You doubt that when you're 0:02:04.960 --> 0:02:07.240 going through and when times it's so hard and you 0:02:07.280 --> 0:02:11.560 can't even yeah, you can't even manifest the belief that 0:02:12.200 --> 0:02:13.760 life will get better. 0:02:13.919 --> 0:02:14.600 Yeah. 0:02:14.639 --> 0:02:16.480 And the truth is is just hang in there. 0:02:16.680 --> 0:02:19.160 We have a dream that one day we'll stay at 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:21.320 the number one spot. We're still there right now. And 0:02:21.400 --> 0:02:23.600 all we need you all to do and make sure 0:02:23.680 --> 0:02:26.720 that you are downloading the podcast download this week and 0:02:26.800 --> 0:02:28.760 make sure you give us a review. We are loving 0:02:28.800 --> 0:02:30.800 reading these reviews, not so much to these doug on 0:02:30.840 --> 0:02:33.880 Twitter comments. But we are loving the reviews, so. 0:02:33.919 --> 0:02:38.120 Don't forget tell a friend, download it, leave a review, comment, 0:02:38.280 --> 0:02:41.600 and ride with us, because we riding with y'all. So 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:43.400 on this episode, I want to give you guys a 0:02:43.400 --> 0:02:44.359 little preview what we're going. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:44.840 To talk about. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:49.080 We have to discuss Donald Trump dominating corn rows and 0:02:49.160 --> 0:02:50.440 white mountains, and by that. 0:02:50.360 --> 0:02:52.000 I mean Iowa, New Hampshire. 0:02:53.480 --> 0:02:55.360 We don't want to talk about Donald Trump, but he 0:02:55.440 --> 0:02:58.120 is the front runner of the Republican Party, so we 0:02:58.200 --> 0:03:00.760 do want to talk about what happen in Iowa and 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.679 really just a GOP field as a whole. We're also 0:03:03.720 --> 0:03:06.320 going to get into some conversation around outreach. 0:03:05.960 --> 0:03:09.799 The black voters. What is our ask and what should 0:03:09.840 --> 0:03:10.400 be our ask? 0:03:10.480 --> 0:03:11.000 How about that? 0:03:11.520 --> 0:03:14.000 But stay with us and until the end of the show, 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:17.799 because as you all know, each episode, uh, myself and 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.280 my co host were we got a testimony and we 0:03:20.360 --> 0:03:24.920 are each going to share what happened with us since. 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:25.720 Y'all last heard from us. 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:27.560 And so at the end of this episode, I am 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.000 going to answer a question I've been asked a lot 0:03:30.040 --> 0:03:33.800 over the last year, and that is what exactly happened 0:03:34.320 --> 0:03:38.080 with me at MSNBC, So stick around because I got 0:03:38.120 --> 0:03:42.400 a testimony for y'all today. All right, Angela Andrew, what 0:03:42.640 --> 0:03:43.960 y'all want to do? Where should we kick it off? 0:03:44.080 --> 0:03:46.040 I kind of want to get into Iowa just to 0:03:46.040 --> 0:03:48.520 get it out the way, to be honest, get it 0:03:48.560 --> 0:03:51.640 out the way, get it out the way. 0:03:52.080 --> 0:03:53.560 Well, I'll kick us off. 0:03:53.600 --> 0:03:56.720 I just want to play this SoundBite from this full 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.600 ass clown. See I already let a curse hoorse slip through. 0:03:59.600 --> 0:04:03.280 But this man is so ridiculous. The people who call 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.680 themselves pro life, okay, uh. 0:04:06.320 --> 0:04:08.120 This is their leader? Is this your king? Take a 0:04:08.160 --> 0:04:09.520 listen to this and we'll talk about it on the 0:04:09.600 --> 0:04:10.040 other side. 0:04:10.240 --> 0:04:12.560 So if you want to save America from Brook and 0:04:12.640 --> 0:04:15.920 Joe Biden, you must go call this tomorrow for the 0:04:15.960 --> 0:04:17.520 first step, the first step. 0:04:17.520 --> 0:04:18.080 We're gonna do it. 0:04:18.120 --> 0:04:18.920 We gotta do it big. 0:04:18.920 --> 0:04:19.640 You gotta get life. 0:04:19.680 --> 0:04:24.120 You can't sit home if you're sick as a dog. 0:04:26.240 --> 0:04:29.120 Even if you vote and then pass away, it's worth it. 0:04:30.800 --> 0:04:33.440 If you're sick, if you're just a shinky cat, don't it. 0:04:33.520 --> 0:04:34.920 I don't think get up. 0:04:35.520 --> 0:04:35.919 Get up. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:39.440 Please miss me. 0:04:39.720 --> 0:04:43.760 The next time you see a bunch of maga half 0:04:43.800 --> 0:04:46.520 witted folks holding up pro life signs. 0:04:48.480 --> 0:04:51.040 You do realize these people are laughing at this man 0:04:51.040 --> 0:04:52.440 talking about the meaning that you have to die. He 0:04:52.640 --> 0:04:56.799 is dead serious, is he ain't joking? 0:04:58.120 --> 0:05:01.320 He's like, sacrifice your life for me. This is the 0:05:01.400 --> 0:05:06.640 man who was behind an insurrection that like little lukewarm 0:05:07.120 --> 0:05:10.120 admonishing he gave to his followers on January sixth, twenty 0:05:10.160 --> 0:05:13.280 twenty one. This is the same man today and forevermore. 0:05:13.720 --> 0:05:16.279 He absolutely wants them to risk it off for him, 0:05:16.560 --> 0:05:19.680 off a dream. He's selling a dream that is all 0:05:19.720 --> 0:05:22.760 of the rest of our nightmare. And he really wants 0:05:22.800 --> 0:05:24.359 these folks to get out here and do this on 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:26.840 behalf of their racism. We know exactly what it is. 0:05:27.040 --> 0:05:27.839 We're not confused. 0:05:27.839 --> 0:05:28.560 He's a fraud. 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.640 I mean, even like with the wall, like Mexico's gonna 0:05:30.640 --> 0:05:32.480 pay for the wall, like his donors have been paying 0:05:32.520 --> 0:05:35.680 for this false effort that's not happening. His donors have 0:05:35.760 --> 0:05:38.000 been paying his legal fees. I mean, he is the 0:05:38.000 --> 0:05:40.599 biggest welfare recipient of these folks, and they keep. 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:41.080 Falling for it. 0:05:41.400 --> 0:05:45.440 But honestly, I kind of feel like this whole GOP field, 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.560 they're all garbage, you know, I wasn't surprised at what 0:05:48.640 --> 0:05:51.039 happened in Iowa, but we kind of talked about this 0:05:51.080 --> 0:05:52.920 last week. I do feel like when these reporters are 0:05:52.920 --> 0:05:54.800 on the ground in Iowa talking to these voters, not 0:05:54.920 --> 0:05:58.080 once did I hear anybody ask how do you account 0:05:58.120 --> 0:06:02.120 for the racist comments that you've heard from all of 0:06:02.120 --> 0:06:04.640 these candidates? At any given point, all of these candidates 0:06:04.680 --> 0:06:08.240 have said something acid nine and racist, and nobody ever 0:06:08.279 --> 0:06:13.279 has to account for that, least of all Nimrada, who 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:16.760 you might know as Nikki Hayley uh Love. 0:06:17.240 --> 0:06:18.680 Check this out. Listen to what she said. 0:06:19.080 --> 0:06:21.760 Are you a racist party? Are you involved in a 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:22.480 racist party? 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:24.360 No? 0:06:24.000 --> 0:06:27.320 We're not a racist country, Brian. We've never been a 0:06:27.400 --> 0:06:29.760 racist country. Our goal is to make sure that today 0:06:29.800 --> 0:06:32.760 is better than yesterday. Are we perfect? No, But our 0:06:32.800 --> 0:06:34.800 goal is to always make sure we try and be 0:06:35.040 --> 0:06:38.400 more perfect if every day that we can. I know 0:06:38.760 --> 0:06:41.240 I faced racism when I was growing up, but I 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:43.280 can tell you today is a lot better than it 0:06:43.360 --> 0:06:46.719 was then. Our goal is to lift up everybody, not 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:49.920 go and divide people on race or gender, or party 0:06:50.000 --> 0:06:52.240 or anything else. We've had enough of that in America. 0:06:52.560 --> 0:06:55.120 That's why I'm so passionate about doing this. I don't 0:06:55.120 --> 0:06:57.200 want my kids growing up where they're sitting there thinking 0:06:57.200 --> 0:06:59.880 that their disadvantage because of a color or a gen. 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:02.560 I want them to know that if they work hard, 0:07:02.680 --> 0:07:04.680 they can do and be anything they. 0:07:04.560 --> 0:07:07.320 Want to be in America, lord hip. 0:07:08.920 --> 0:07:09.440 Like what. 0:07:10.920 --> 0:07:12.400 First of all, here's my house. 0:07:12.520 --> 0:07:16.840 I just marvel at the privilege, the privilege, the privilege 0:07:16.840 --> 0:07:21.920 it must be to exempt yourself out of what is 0:07:22.560 --> 0:07:27.520 so many of ours every single day reality, multiple times 0:07:27.520 --> 0:07:30.720 a day, so much so it's baked into the case 0:07:30.760 --> 0:07:31.920 we don't even count anymore. 0:07:32.200 --> 0:07:35.040 But Andrew, did she exempt herself? I don't think she did. 0:07:35.360 --> 0:07:37.679 First of all, let's there's three issues here. The first 0:07:37.720 --> 0:07:42.520 issue is she's the question was are you a racist party? 0:07:42.960 --> 0:07:46.120 She talks about not a racist country. She couldn't even 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.600 answer that part for a reason. 0:07:48.080 --> 0:07:49.480 The second was yah. 0:07:49.800 --> 0:07:52.400 The second thing is we're not a racist country from 0:07:52.440 --> 0:07:56.400 when Nikki from it's founding from the sixties and the 0:07:56.440 --> 0:08:00.480 Montgomery bus boycotts and the voting rights protest or is 0:08:00.520 --> 0:08:04.280 it that racism ended right after you experienced racism? Because 0:08:04.280 --> 0:08:07.440 you're saying what you don't want your kids to experience, 0:08:07.680 --> 0:08:10.200 But what you're certainly not saying is that they have 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:14.280 not experienced it. So what I think that Nikki or Nimrata, 0:08:14.320 --> 0:08:18.920 as Tif said, is masterful at talking out of both 0:08:19.160 --> 0:08:23.040 sides of her mouth, just like Alita. Her leader is 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:23.520 Donald Trump. 0:08:23.520 --> 0:08:26.480 If you're confused, Hey, Angela, we don't want to be 0:08:26.560 --> 0:08:30.960 talking to our kids about them being disadvantaged in any way, 0:08:31.000 --> 0:08:33.120 shape or form. I don't want to have to talk 0:08:33.160 --> 0:08:37.240 to my boys about what it means to have to 0:08:37.320 --> 0:08:43.400 demure themselves in dark spaces or as they encounter people 0:08:43.520 --> 0:08:46.240 who are not of color in authority, or how they 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:50.520 may encounter our neighbors down the street after dawn or dust. 0:08:51.480 --> 0:08:56.360 And so Nikki or miss Haley former governor, we agree 0:08:56.400 --> 0:08:57.560 with you. We don't want to have to talk to 0:08:57.559 --> 0:09:00.720 our kids about that either. But what what what I 0:09:00.800 --> 0:09:05.840 don't understand Tiff and Angela, is what is the point 0:09:05.920 --> 0:09:10.680 of all of this right now? The the the persuading 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:14.400 by the candidates from the leader of the party Trump, 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.520 you know, all the way down to the bottom of 0:09:16.600 --> 0:09:23.920 the pits DeSantis. They're all trumpeting this racist brand of politics, 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:27.400 and it's there's there's there's no it's not veiled, there's 0:09:27.440 --> 0:09:30.080 no thin layer between. This is the most obvious set 0:09:30.080 --> 0:09:32.280 of stuff I've ever seen. And I almost said a word, 0:09:32.320 --> 0:09:34.760 but we've been admonished not to use bad words about 0:09:34.760 --> 0:09:37.160 our parents, and I'm serious. But that's a sidebar. We'll 0:09:37.160 --> 0:09:40.000 talk about that later on this topic. Though, the very 0:09:40.000 --> 0:09:44.240 founder of our country, the great and original sin. Every 0:09:44.360 --> 0:09:49.480 major conflict domestically that has popped up, that has galvanized, 0:09:49.480 --> 0:09:55.600 intended to divide our nation, going even to the Civil War, 0:09:55.640 --> 0:10:01.000 where more Americans were killed and in that war than 0:10:01.080 --> 0:10:04.520 in every war we have ever fought as a nation 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:09.880 from then forward combined, what is strong enough to divide 0:10:09.880 --> 0:10:14.160 a nation so fiercely that you could cut down your 0:10:14.240 --> 0:10:19.880 fellow American and not think again about it. Well, I'll 0:10:19.920 --> 0:10:22.839 tell you what that thing is. And it's the same 0:10:23.880 --> 0:10:29.120 complexity that the founders themselves faced in Philadelphia when they 0:10:29.200 --> 0:10:34.160 decided to make us three four us. Since the beginning 0:10:34.200 --> 0:10:38.559 of time, there has never been a person, a human 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:42.959 regardless of what they're hue, that has any that has 0:10:43.000 --> 0:10:47.719 been anything other than human. So at what point did 0:10:47.720 --> 0:10:50.000 the country come to the realization that we were then 0:10:50.320 --> 0:10:55.800 human and therefore entitled to human treatment? 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:59.240 Yeah, you know, I think most of our listeners know 0:11:00.160 --> 0:11:03.400 that this. Of course, the country is a racist country. 0:11:03.440 --> 0:11:07.040 It was founded on racism. I think a lot of 0:11:07.080 --> 0:11:10.880 people want to believe this fairy tale about America that 0:11:10.920 --> 0:11:15.040 they were spoon fed and have a willful ignorance about 0:11:15.200 --> 0:11:19.120 the real origin of the United States of America. But 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:22.960 we know our listeners know Nimrada is saying these things 0:11:23.040 --> 0:11:26.600 to a very specific audience. She is speaking to white America. 0:11:26.679 --> 0:11:29.360 She's saying, I know I'm brown, but I don't think 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:33.280 like those brown folks. I know I have an ethnic name, 0:11:33.360 --> 0:11:35.080 but if you call me Nikki, will that make you 0:11:35.120 --> 0:11:37.360 more comfortable? Then will you let me play at your table? 0:11:37.400 --> 0:11:38.760 Then will you let me sit at the head of 0:11:38.800 --> 0:11:42.360 the table. And we're going to see how a very racist, 0:11:42.640 --> 0:11:46.480 maga extremist voting block responds to her, because she's doing 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.520 all of this for very little reward. If you think 0:11:49.960 --> 0:11:52.600 by Kyle toeing to this group of people that they're 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:54.360 going to say, Okay, well, we don't like the rest 0:11:54.400 --> 0:11:56.920 of y'all, but we'll make an exception for you, baby girl, 0:11:56.920 --> 0:11:58.600 You in for a rude awakening. 0:11:58.720 --> 0:11:59.760 It ain't gonna happen like that. 0:12:00.040 --> 0:12:02.600 I don't even need to waste my breath trying to 0:12:02.640 --> 0:12:05.160 convince somebody it's a racist country. History can tell you 0:12:05.240 --> 0:12:07.720 that we are trying to force America to fulfill the 0:12:07.760 --> 0:12:10.600 promise that so many other people think she's already fulfilled. 0:12:10.840 --> 0:12:11.839 That's where the work is. 0:12:12.160 --> 0:12:15.520 But this is why, and this is why I am dumbfounded. 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:19.520 Which is why. What is the point to this right now? 0:12:20.280 --> 0:12:23.920 What value add does it have for us to litigate 0:12:24.040 --> 0:12:27.760 this this this this topic of where we racist? 0:12:27.880 --> 0:12:28.000 What? 0:12:28.120 --> 0:12:29.360 Why did the Civil War occur? 0:12:29.840 --> 0:12:32.640 Why are these people know why? 0:12:32.679 --> 0:12:34.800 I ain't gonna say everybody, but why are these people 0:12:35.040 --> 0:12:39.280 so terrified of the future that they're so willing to 0:12:39.360 --> 0:12:43.439 just grasp to the past as their greatest achievements? About that, 0:12:43.559 --> 0:12:45.760 but I got to I believe in a better future. 0:12:46.360 --> 0:12:46.920 You know why? 0:12:47.600 --> 0:12:50.240 Vice President Harris responded to this. Angel I didn't see it, 0:12:50.280 --> 0:12:51.400 but Angela, you saw it. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:58.480 Yeah. Anna Navarro asks uh Kamala Harris about this uh 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:02.480 statement by Nikki Haley, and she responds on the view, 0:13:02.880 --> 0:13:08.439 do you agree that America has never been a racist country? 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:12.640 You know, I first of all, and I think everyone agrees. 0:13:12.800 --> 0:13:16.560 We all agree the history of racism in America should 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:19.960 never be the subject of a SoundBite or a question 0:13:20.040 --> 0:13:23.000 that is meant to elicit a one sentence answer. But 0:13:23.080 --> 0:13:27.760 there is no denying that we have in our history 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:33.720 as a nation racism, and that racism has played a 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:39.040 role in the history of our nation. And when I 0:13:39.080 --> 0:13:42.320 think about it, I think we all would agree that 0:13:42.840 --> 0:13:47.280 while it is part of our past and we see 0:13:47.440 --> 0:13:52.640 vestiges of it today, we should also be committed collectively 0:13:52.800 --> 0:13:55.160 to not letting it define the future of our country. 0:13:56.200 --> 0:13:59.520 But we cannot get to a place of progress on 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.640 the issue of race by denying the existence of racism, 0:14:03.920 --> 0:14:09.880 by denying the history of racism. 0:14:10.200 --> 0:14:14.240 You know what is most unfortunate to me and tiff 0:14:14.280 --> 0:14:16.440 and Andrew, I really want to hear your thoughts on this. 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:19.280 I don't think that there's a politician running for national 0:14:19.320 --> 0:14:22.200 office who answers this question. Well, like if we can 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:25.560 just not both sides this but just talk about it 0:14:25.600 --> 0:14:28.640 for what it is. I remember when President Obama was 0:14:28.760 --> 0:14:30.840 asked if he was the president of Black he said 0:14:30.880 --> 0:14:32.880 he wasn't the president of Black America. He's the President 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:35.720 of the United States of America. Right. There is not 0:14:35.880 --> 0:14:40.560 a politician seeking federal office, whether they have to run 0:14:40.600 --> 0:14:45.200 statewide or they're running nationally that answers this question well. 0:14:45.520 --> 0:14:49.600 And I think Kamala Vice President Harris found her footing 0:14:49.680 --> 0:14:53.200 in the latter part of this question from Anna Navarro. 0:14:53.680 --> 0:14:56.200 But I really want her to be able to say yes, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:15:01.560 from its inception, this country has has a racist past 0:15:01.600 --> 0:15:03.760 that we are desperately trying to clean up every day. 0:15:04.000 --> 0:15:06.240 Why does that matter right now? Going back to Andrew's 0:15:06.320 --> 0:15:10.200 last point, it matters so much right now because they're 0:15:10.440 --> 0:15:14.120 so willing to manipulate history that they will take it 0:15:14.280 --> 0:15:17.560 out of books, they will ban books, they will take 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:21.080 it out of the classroom, they will ban ap black studies. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:25.680 They are fighting diligently and hard and violently to ensure 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:29.800 that we believe something very different about this country's inception, 0:15:29.960 --> 0:15:34.640 its founders and racism, and it's always been there. And yes, 0:15:34.680 --> 0:15:37.920 it is an economic battle first, but it is absolutely 0:15:38.000 --> 0:15:41.320 based on the dehumanization of black people and the others. 0:15:41.880 --> 0:15:43.720 So I want her to be able to say that. 0:15:43.800 --> 0:15:48.360 And I I'm so frustrated with this country for not 0:15:48.440 --> 0:15:51.200 being able to provide us the space that we need 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:54.200 to stand ten toes down in our truth and be 0:15:54.280 --> 0:15:56.800 able to say what it is without the penalty of 0:15:56.840 --> 0:15:59.800 losing an election, I want her to be able to 0:15:59.800 --> 0:16:02.840 say that, you know, anyway, I think that's a consistent 0:16:02.920 --> 0:16:06.000 problem across all politicians, even folks who look like us. 0:16:06.040 --> 0:16:08.240 As we see, and let me be clear, I will 0:16:08.280 --> 0:16:11.160 cast a vote for Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, as 0:16:11.280 --> 0:16:14.200 I assume my two other co hosts will. We have 0:16:14.320 --> 0:16:17.280 a right to criticize our politicians, and we want to 0:16:17.720 --> 0:16:19.480 say we want you to do help us, help you. 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:21.720 And so I think a part of this challenge is 0:16:22.440 --> 0:16:24.880 so often in campaigns and elections they will come to 0:16:25.000 --> 0:16:28.840 black neighborhoods and whisper, hey, when I get elected, I'm 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:30.760 gonna help y'all. But they not gonna say that on 0:16:30.800 --> 0:16:33.480 the stump speech. On the stump speech, they so concerned 0:16:33.520 --> 0:16:37.160 with appealing to white folks. The challenge is this, politicians, 0:16:37.400 --> 0:16:40.200 you lost that vote a long time ago. White folks 0:16:40.200 --> 0:16:44.200 have not overwhelmingly voted for a Democratic party since the sixties, 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:46.640 and that is when the demographics of this country looked 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:48.840 a lot different. They got I think eighty nine percent 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.920 of the white vote over fifty years ago. Now, with 0:16:52.000 --> 0:16:56.520 the changing demographics of America, reevaluate your message and live 0:16:56.640 --> 0:16:59.920 and speak a more truthful assertion. And if you can 0:17:00.000 --> 0:17:02.440 can't tell me, if you're trying to convince me, notice, 0:17:02.480 --> 0:17:04.760 piss you feel in your face is actually rain. You 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:07.240 have lost my vote, you have lost my confidence. You 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.160 have lost the thing that most people look for in politicians, 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:13.080 and that's for authenticity. That's the thing that's so fragile 0:17:13.240 --> 0:17:14.560 and so few and far between. 0:17:14.600 --> 0:17:14.920 I think. 0:17:15.000 --> 0:17:18.239 So I'm always disappointed when I hear people because what 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:22.320 the bottom line is, you're trying to make yourself palatable 0:17:22.600 --> 0:17:26.320 to white thricks, and to me, you leap frog over 0:17:26.359 --> 0:17:28.320 me and my interest when I'm the main person holding 0:17:28.320 --> 0:17:30.480 you down. So I will put this not just to 0:17:30.640 --> 0:17:34.520 Vice President Kamala Harrison, but to anybody who's talking inspire, 0:17:35.040 --> 0:17:37.280 be bold and speak of truth. We do, and we 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:40.040 support you, and we want to help it make it 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:41.760 easier for other people to speak their truth. 0:17:41.880 --> 0:17:43.480 Andrew, you guys something else on this. 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.000 Well, I'll just say I'm sick of the question being asked, 0:17:46.040 --> 0:17:47.600 when do we live in a country where we don't 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:50.720 even opposition the question of whether or not we have 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:54.520 a racist founding history steeped in it and its vestiges 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:58.280 every single day. And what I will argue is the 0:17:58.359 --> 0:18:00.840 reason Kamala Harris has to answer that way, and I 0:18:00.840 --> 0:18:04.040 agree with you, I think she got better. More direct 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:10.240 towards the end is because of the vestiges of racism 0:18:10.280 --> 0:18:14.680 and white supremacy. We can't take the chance that by 0:18:14.760 --> 0:18:19.320 acknowledging that the founding was steeped in racism is the 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:24.879 original sin of this country, and every single major battle legal, social, cultural, 0:18:24.960 --> 0:18:29.040 or economic, and otherwise are stemming from it. It's an 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:32.879 octopus with a whole bunch of tentacles, and part of 0:18:32.880 --> 0:18:37.080 those tentacles include people not being able to speak the 0:18:37.200 --> 0:18:40.320 truth that we know, and that, to be honest, every 0:18:40.840 --> 0:18:47.080 single person knows Nikki Hayley, Donald Trump. What they're afraid 0:18:47.080 --> 0:18:49.560 of is that by acknowledging that it is an indictment 0:18:49.640 --> 0:18:54.879 on them. I don't indicte you for your ancestors enslaving me, 0:18:55.040 --> 0:18:57.960 and I'm not even I'm not even blaming you from 0:18:58.000 --> 0:19:01.320 all the ways in which you benefit today from their 0:19:01.359 --> 0:19:04.520 having done so. So release yourself with the guilt. That 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:05.639 isn't what we're saying. 0:19:06.160 --> 0:19:09.240 I know, I want, I want some people to actually 0:19:09.240 --> 0:19:11.240 own their guilt. And here's the other part. It's not 0:19:11.440 --> 0:19:14.960 I don't think that we're trying to put white supremacy 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:18.040 and racism at the feet of Nikki Hayley except for 0:19:18.080 --> 0:19:21.760 when she is benefiting from those things and boldly benefiting 0:19:21.800 --> 0:19:25.239 from those things. 0:19:25.320 --> 0:19:25.480 Right. 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:28.480 But but what I am saying is, you don't get 0:19:28.520 --> 0:19:32.480 to not acknowledge us. There are other cultures, other groups 0:19:32.920 --> 0:19:38.280 where you do not garner their support if you don't 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.320 acknowledge them. And I think that that's where we must be. 0:19:41.480 --> 0:19:43.760 We must be at the point where we say no 0:19:44.400 --> 0:19:49.520 if we have been impacted by discrimination in federal contracts 0:19:49.600 --> 0:19:53.280 and accessing jobs. Now with a ban on affirmative action 0:19:53.359 --> 0:19:56.880 and higher education, you know, all of the police violence 0:19:57.000 --> 0:20:01.280 right someplace where again, Kamala Harris, Madame Vice President, stood 0:20:01.440 --> 0:20:05.000 ten toes down on the George Floyd Justice and Policing Act. 0:20:05.080 --> 0:20:07.520 We need to keep that same energy right now because 0:20:07.560 --> 0:20:10.720 people are still being killed by police. Last year was 0:20:10.760 --> 0:20:15.359 the deadliest year for police violence. I want her in 0:20:15.440 --> 0:20:18.600 a position where she is shining, and that is as 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:22.200 a prosecutor, prosecute the case about racism in this country 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.400 and go hard at its neck. If you end up 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:29.119 sacrificing your role but dismantle the system, my sister was 0:20:29.160 --> 0:20:31.439 worth it. And I don't want that for her, like 0:20:31.480 --> 0:20:33.920 I would love to see her in the Oval one day, 0:20:33.920 --> 0:20:37.720 but it's going to take bold, powerful leadership, and I 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:39.920 don't think we get there by doing the same things 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.600 that have always been done. I would argue right now, 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:46.040 just based on where this nation's consciousness is. I don't 0:20:46.080 --> 0:20:49.520 know if Barack Obama could win today. I don't know 0:20:49.520 --> 0:20:51.600 if he could running the same campaign that he ran 0:20:51.640 --> 0:20:52.840 in two thousand and eight in. 0:20:52.800 --> 0:20:54.880