1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:02,480 Speaker 1: Ron and Anian. I work in a repair shop that 2 00:00:02,600 --> 00:00:04,400 Speaker 1: and people walk in and they were mazed. The floors 3 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:06,720 Speaker 1: are cleaning, the place's got air conditioning, we've got tools, 4 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: we've got lights, we've got lips. And you say to yourself, well, 5 00:00:09,920 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: isn't that common? And it's not, evidently, the Car Doctor. 6 00:00:31,400 --> 00:00:34,320 Speaker 1: We can paint the studio. Tom forget the studio. Tony 7 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,000 Speaker 1: is not here today. We can paint Tony. Tony would 8 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,160 Speaker 1: like that. I'll hold him use for him. And well, 9 00:00:39,240 --> 00:00:40,920 Speaker 1: that's can need a lot of paint. He's a big guy. 10 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of Ron and Anian, the 11 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since this is where car owners the world 12 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: overturned to for their definitive opinion on automotive repair. If 13 00:00:53,120 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: your mechanics giving you a busy signal, pick up the 14 00:00:55,840 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 1: phone and call in. The garage doors are open, but 15 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: I am here. Take your calls at eight five five 16 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: five six and now running. Time to start your engines running. 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:12,000 Speaker 1: Ending in the Car Doctor here at eight five five 18 00:01:12,080 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: five zero nine nine zero zero. Join us for the 19 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:17,279 Speaker 1: next two hours as we sit down and talk about 20 00:01:17,319 --> 00:01:20,280 Speaker 1: solving your automotive problem, whatever it might be. Fender defender 21 00:01:20,319 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: and door to door There is more information about this 22 00:01:22,800 --> 00:01:26,000 Speaker 1: radio show at car doctors show dot com. Also podcast 23 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:28,119 Speaker 1: We know your podcasters are out there and we love 24 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: you for it. Your podcasting either from tune in, I 25 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: heart or iTunes, and if possible, click on subscribe. It 26 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: helps us and helps keep our little radio business going 27 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:39,440 Speaker 1: as we move forward and try to fix all these 28 00:01:39,440 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: broken cars. Eight five five five six zero nine zero 29 00:01:42,760 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: zero was also seven, I should point that out. You 30 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: call the eight five five number, which is tall free. 31 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: You can leave a message and our producer, the illustrious 32 00:01:52,200 --> 00:01:54,720 Speaker 1: Thomas Ray the third we'll call you back and hook 33 00:01:54,760 --> 00:01:56,920 Speaker 1: you up in radio and uh, let you talk to me. 34 00:01:56,960 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: We can get it together on air and see what's 35 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: going on with your car. Mom said to me today, 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: she says, what are you gonna talk about today? I said, 37 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,680 Speaker 1: I don't know. I never really think about it. So 38 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,600 Speaker 1: this is the show about nothing. I guess maybe we 39 00:02:10,639 --> 00:02:12,799 Speaker 1: could be but looking at work, it works for Seinfeld, 40 00:02:12,840 --> 00:02:15,320 Speaker 1: maybe it'll work for me. I think what I want 41 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 1: to talk about, well, it's two things that are on 42 00:02:16,919 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: my mind. Number one, um and and Tom Ray gave 43 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: me this idea before the show. So you know, if 44 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:25,800 Speaker 1: anybody wants to yell and scream it's at Tom. Tom 45 00:02:25,840 --> 00:02:27,600 Speaker 1: came up to me before the show and he saw 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,280 Speaker 1: my post on Facebook. You know, if you get out 47 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 1: to the Car doctor Facebook page about Volkswagen being fined 48 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:36,359 Speaker 1: thirty billion with a B dollars and um, he said, look, 49 00:02:36,400 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: you were right, I said, how so he goes because 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: they really are virtually worthless and after that thirty billion 51 00:02:41,240 --> 00:02:45,079 Speaker 1: dollar fine, I mean, you know, thirty billion dollars, talk 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: about clamping down. Which, by the way, if if you're 53 00:02:49,120 --> 00:02:51,680 Speaker 1: and this is me talking about nothing again, if you're 54 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 1: wondering why you're getting all these recall notices. Customer came 55 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: into the shop this week and they were talking about 56 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,240 Speaker 1: how they took their hun day in for a recall 57 00:02:59,760 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 1: and and what ended up happening was they had the 58 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 1: recall done and the Hunda dealer tried to sell them 59 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 1: two thousand dollars worth of widgets that they didn't need. 60 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:08,519 Speaker 1: So then they had to commend to me and I 61 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: had to see the car and show them though this 62 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: isn't this is okay, This is okay, This is okay 63 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: because the recall thing is really affecting the industry. You 64 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:19,960 Speaker 1: can see it. It's it's driving people crazy. You're you know, 65 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,160 Speaker 1: you you take the car and for the for the recall, 66 00:03:22,200 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, you've got this laundry 67 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: list of things that don't need to be done. And 68 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,280 Speaker 1: not every dealer. Listen, there's some very good dealers out there. 69 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 1: There's some people with scruples, there's people with morals, and 70 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: then there's the rest of you. And it just doesn't 71 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:36,400 Speaker 1: seem to work out. Everybody's got to try and sell 72 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:39,680 Speaker 1: somebody something they don't need. So, you know, the point 73 00:03:39,800 --> 00:03:43,800 Speaker 1: is the reason the recalls are so much more in 74 00:03:43,840 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 1: the news and you're being pushed for it is the 75 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: car manufacturers, as per government legislation last year, are now 76 00:03:50,360 --> 00:03:53,240 Speaker 1: having fines levied against them at a much higher rate 77 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:56,920 Speaker 1: and a much higher level. There's there are issues with 78 00:03:57,240 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: if the government feels like the recall should have been 79 00:03:59,600 --> 00:04:02,920 Speaker 1: done leire, or if it's the consumer the vehicle owners 80 00:04:02,920 --> 00:04:07,200 Speaker 1: should have been notified sooner, then they're saying that, Okay, 81 00:04:07,200 --> 00:04:09,960 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're gonna increase the findes tenfolds. So what 82 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:11,960 Speaker 1: could have been a thirty thousand dollar fine becomes a 83 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollar fine, and so on. So it's 84 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: a thirty billion for Volkswagon. Wow, talk about a hurting um. 85 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:20,839 Speaker 1: You know, you can see the price of new cars 86 00:04:20,880 --> 00:04:23,560 Speaker 1: going up soon and the value of Volkswagons going down. 87 00:04:23,560 --> 00:04:26,039 Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, we were having lunch in 88 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:28,839 Speaker 1: the studio lunch room just before the show today and 89 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: I was reading the local paper here in Jersey. A 90 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: twelve Volkswagen Jetta, fifty thousand miles, four door, power steering, 91 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:42,640 Speaker 1: power window, power brakes, air conditioning, excellent condition, it said 92 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:47,360 Speaker 1: gas version didn't talk anything about it being a a 93 00:04:47,360 --> 00:04:55,279 Speaker 1: a diesel and excellent condition. And I read that and 94 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:59,360 Speaker 1: I said a five year old car in fifty thous 95 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:05,719 Speaker 1: less than nine grand. In comparison, a two thousand six 96 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:11,719 Speaker 1: Toyota Camra with sixty eight thousand miles was the next 97 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,000 Speaker 1: column over, and they were looking to get seven grand 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,600 Speaker 1: for it. So a car, a car six years older 99 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:21,640 Speaker 1: than the Volkswagen is only worth less or two thousand 100 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 1: dollars less. What does that say about Volkswagen? What's the 101 00:05:24,360 --> 00:05:28,479 Speaker 1: resale price of Volkswagen doing besides plummeting? And um, you 102 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 1: just wonder where will the company bait? It doesn't look 103 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:34,320 Speaker 1: good for the folks from you know, the fatherland there 104 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:37,839 Speaker 1: at the tough time. Second thing I wanted to talk about. 105 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,599 Speaker 1: So I finally got carpenter Bob straightened out in terms 106 00:05:42,680 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 1: of we worked on his truck this week and rebuilt 107 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,559 Speaker 1: his front end, and you know, he had some spare 108 00:05:47,560 --> 00:05:49,200 Speaker 1: time while he was hanging around waiting for us to 109 00:05:49,240 --> 00:05:52,520 Speaker 1: do it, and he decided we had purchased some new 110 00:05:52,560 --> 00:05:55,600 Speaker 1: cameras for the shop security system, and he decided, well, 111 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:56,880 Speaker 1: you know what, let me get the cameras up this 112 00:05:56,920 --> 00:05:58,880 Speaker 1: week while I'm here and we can, you know, do 113 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: what we have to do. So we had four cameras 114 00:06:02,360 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 1: to replace. We've we've got a bunch of them and 115 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: um puts up. One works great and they really need 116 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 1: their military grade there. You can see at night it's 117 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,080 Speaker 1: it's it's really cool, like he wants the shop two 118 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning. It's like looking at daylight and 119 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 1: you know, the first one goes up, no problem. The 120 00:06:18,360 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: second one goes up. It doesn't seem to work. Bob, 121 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: it's dark. What's the problem there? He goes, I don't know. 122 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,400 Speaker 1: He goes, let me go check the connection. Checks the connection. 123 00:06:25,480 --> 00:06:26,720 Speaker 1: Well wait a minute, he is, you know, I think 124 00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:29,279 Speaker 1: he got a bad When I go, no, it's now, 125 00:06:30,120 --> 00:06:32,960 Speaker 1: how could it be bad? Puts the old one back in. 126 00:06:33,040 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 1: It works fine. We call up tech support for the 127 00:06:35,560 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: camera company and they say, yeah, you gotta have twelve volts. 128 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:39,640 Speaker 1: I measure, I got twelve volts. I said, I've got 129 00:06:39,640 --> 00:06:41,760 Speaker 1: I've got thirty five million drill with the old camera. 130 00:06:41,800 --> 00:06:43,600 Speaker 1: I've got nothing with the new camera. Says yeah, that's 131 00:06:43,600 --> 00:06:46,040 Speaker 1: about right. Um he says, gee, you may have a 132 00:06:46,120 --> 00:06:48,440 Speaker 1: bad new camera. I said, well, how could that be new? 133 00:06:48,600 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: Never ever worked? So we got to the third camera 134 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:55,159 Speaker 1: and UM tried that, and that one worked. And we 135 00:06:55,200 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: got to the fourth camera. It didn't work. So I 136 00:06:59,480 --> 00:07:03,760 Speaker 1: guess the point of the conversation is, you know, if 137 00:07:03,760 --> 00:07:08,159 Speaker 1: it's electronic, if it's technical, if it's involved automobile animal, 138 00:07:08,200 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: minimum a vegetable right, automobile camera, computer or whatever, it 139 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:17,040 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. It just becomes an issue. So you know, 140 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 1: the moral to the story is, And and we waited 141 00:07:20,440 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: a little, well, we waited a while. We've had the 142 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 1: cameras a while, but the company was nice enough. They 143 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,120 Speaker 1: took them back. They're gonna make good on it. It's 144 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: you can't wait. You know, you never know when technology 145 00:07:29,920 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: is gonna come along and and and and bite you 146 00:07:32,520 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 1: in your hind quarters and become a problem. And you 147 00:07:35,720 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: know that's the point. And as technology marches forward, you 148 00:07:40,160 --> 00:07:43,840 Speaker 1: just you say, where will it end? Carpenter Bob was 149 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: here in studio, is tidying up some electrical stuff for 150 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:48,160 Speaker 1: us before the show today. So if we go off 151 00:07:48,200 --> 00:07:52,760 Speaker 1: the year, you know, Carpenter Bob was helping, and we 152 00:07:52,800 --> 00:07:55,520 Speaker 1: showed him in our in our in our our, in 153 00:07:55,560 --> 00:07:58,080 Speaker 1: our room, in the rest of relaxation room before the show, 154 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 1: the TV room as we call it. We've got bow 155 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: sound bar. So I was showing Bob how the bow 156 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: sound bar worked. And you know, understand, this is a 157 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 1: guy who didn't see TV until about seven years ago. 158 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,760 Speaker 1: So you know, he's seeing a bow sound bar in 159 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: TV and he's just stunted. He's just never seen or 160 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:16,880 Speaker 1: heard anything like this. And I showed him how through 161 00:08:16,920 --> 00:08:21,280 Speaker 1: my phone, I can take my phone and play music 162 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: on the sound bar. And he looks at me and 163 00:08:22,840 --> 00:08:24,880 Speaker 1: he said, well, what about all those Roy Rogers records 164 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: I've got. I said, well, there, that's kind of over, Bob. 165 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, Roy Rogers has gone, Dale's gone, 166 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 1: Triggers gone, um, you know it's I and I pointed 167 00:08:34,200 --> 00:08:39,679 Speaker 1: out to him how it's going to change everything. We 168 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: were talking at the chiropractor also this morning about automobiles, 169 00:08:43,760 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 1: and it kind of tied into my conversation with Bob 170 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:50,400 Speaker 1: how cars are getting to the point that they're getting 171 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,440 Speaker 1: more and more difficult, not just to repair, but to 172 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:57,400 Speaker 1: afford the repair and the practicality of the repair. We 173 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 1: had an O nine f one pickup truck this week, 174 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:03,880 Speaker 1: two wheel drive, extended cab, not a double door, but 175 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: you know, cab and a half two wheel drive, nice truck, leather, 176 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 1: heated seats and air and air conditioned seats, you know, 177 00:09:11,440 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 1: every option under the sun. Just just a big truck, 178 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:17,440 Speaker 1: a cowboy cattle that kind of a thing. And it 179 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,559 Speaker 1: needed you know, tires, breaks, full service, ignition, it's got 180 00:09:22,160 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 1: miles on it, it needs the farm. And by the 181 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:26,120 Speaker 1: time you're done and you add it all up, and 182 00:09:26,120 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: the customer, you know, opted for the best of the best, 183 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: it's fifty And he looked at me and he said, 184 00:09:33,040 --> 00:09:34,760 Speaker 1: go ahead, do it. And I kind of tilted my 185 00:09:34,800 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 1: head and I said, really, said ron, I already priced 186 00:09:38,679 --> 00:09:40,960 Speaker 1: this truck out new. I mean, I understand it I 187 00:09:41,040 --> 00:09:43,040 Speaker 1: was just curious to hear somebody else tell me what 188 00:09:43,240 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I already you know, believe in my mind, he said, 189 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:49,120 Speaker 1: I priced this truck out new. This truck brand new 190 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:54,760 Speaker 1: is seventy two thousand dollars. And you say to yourself, 191 00:09:55,400 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: as he said to me, said, Ron, I'll put ten 192 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: grands and I'll put fifteen grand in it. He goes, 193 00:09:59,559 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: number one, are working on it. He goes, I know 194 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 1: it's done. It's done right. And he because I'm not 195 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: gonna have to revisit it. He says, more importantly, he goes, 196 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 1: where am I gonna get a truck for five grand 197 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: or six grand or ten grand? He goes, I can't 198 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: buy this truck again. I can't, he says, But I 199 00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,959 Speaker 1: got to spend seventy two dollars and then in three 200 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: years I get to start all over again. And it 201 00:10:17,160 --> 00:10:22,040 Speaker 1: made me wonder where will where will it stop? And 202 00:10:22,120 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: this is the conversation at the chiropractor we were talking. 203 00:10:24,400 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: There were young families there, so you know, the average 204 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,560 Speaker 1: young American family with an eight year old, a ten 205 00:10:29,640 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: year old, and a twelve year old, and you know, 206 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: they're just to the point the kids are just to 207 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: the point where you know, you can take them on 208 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:38,240 Speaker 1: that vacation to Cape Cod or southern California beaches or 209 00:10:38,559 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 1: or Florida, and you want to go on a family 210 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: road trip, and everybody piles into the suburban. He decided, 211 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: let me go out and buy a new suburban. A 212 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: new suburban is eighty grand and at what point does 213 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 1: it become And like a lot of couples are doing, 214 00:10:52,960 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: they're they're not buying that eighty thousand dollar suburban. They're 215 00:10:55,960 --> 00:11:00,520 Speaker 1: buying that used whatever for thirty or forty because they're 216 00:11:00,559 --> 00:11:04,800 Speaker 1: saving for college. At what point will it become impractical 217 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:08,600 Speaker 1: to own a car? And I think we're almost encroaching 218 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: that now. Cadillac last year there was a rite up 219 00:11:12,320 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: in the Wall Street Journal that talked about Cadillac and 220 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: it's it's I forget what they called it, but it 221 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 1: was a it was a car choice program where you 222 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:24,360 Speaker 1: could choose somewhere between four and six different model Cadillacs 223 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:27,360 Speaker 1: during the course of the basis of the program. And 224 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 1: it was a it was a ridiculous number. I'm thinking 225 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: it was eight a month. But you could switch out 226 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 1: your car four to six times a year. So if 227 00:11:35,240 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: you want to drive, you know, a small Cadillac in 228 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:40,320 Speaker 1: the winter, and then switch to a sport of your 229 00:11:40,360 --> 00:11:44,000 Speaker 1: model come come summer, and then in football season there's tailgating. 230 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,559 Speaker 1: You want to buy an Escalade, you want to drive 231 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: a Cadillac Escalade. You can do all that, and they've 232 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: they've now taken and made it away that Hey, you know, 233 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: it's maybe you're not gonna buy the Cadillac program. Maybe 234 00:11:53,880 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 1: you're gonna buy, you know, the five a month Chevrolet program, 235 00:11:57,559 --> 00:11:59,320 Speaker 1: and for the rest of your life you're gonna have 236 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,720 Speaker 1: this five dollars a month as a small mortgage payment. 237 00:12:03,160 --> 00:12:06,480 Speaker 1: But you're gonna get to drive a new car anytime 238 00:12:06,520 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 1: you want, up to force four to six times a year. 239 00:12:10,120 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: I read an interesting story last week that talked about 240 00:12:12,640 --> 00:12:18,080 Speaker 1: how General Motors has too much used car inventory. They're 241 00:12:18,120 --> 00:12:19,719 Speaker 1: flooded with it. They don't know where to put the 242 00:12:19,760 --> 00:12:24,559 Speaker 1: cars anymore. And it just makes you wonder how the 243 00:12:24,640 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 1: leasing is going to be affected and if it will. 244 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. This is me Ron and any in 245 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:31,959 Speaker 1: the Car Doctor talking a lot about nothing, because that's 246 00:12:31,960 --> 00:12:34,360 Speaker 1: what today's show is. That's our theme. We're just talking 247 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: about nothing here, trying to solve your car problems. At 248 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,440 Speaker 1: zero zero. When the Car Doctor returns, we're gonna kick 249 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: the garage doors wide open. Stay tuned them back right 250 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:51,520 Speaker 1: after this. She's real, find my phone, nighte, She's real, 251 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:58,880 Speaker 1: find my phone, my phone. Welcome back. We're needing of 252 00:12:58,880 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: the car Doctor, by the way, you know, and I'm 253 00:13:01,280 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 1: speaking to Anthony my my my board operators. Back this week, 254 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,360 Speaker 1: the New York City trains were working. Um, thank god 255 00:13:07,400 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 1: for that right tone. Barely, yeah, barely, but he's here. Um. 256 00:13:11,160 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: Do you know how the Beach Boys recorded that song 257 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: in the studio? No little known fact. They were on 258 00:13:17,800 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: the front lawn. I read it many years ago, but 259 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,560 Speaker 1: they were. They were on the front lawn of a 260 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 1: neighbor's house and somebody had a four or nine Chevy 261 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,600 Speaker 1: in the driveway and they read it up to get 262 00:13:27,600 --> 00:13:29,959 Speaker 1: that sound effect. That's an actual four oh nine in 263 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:32,320 Speaker 1: the music. That's that's that's what I was told. That's 264 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: what I was read. Now I'm reading some pr agencies 265 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:37,680 Speaker 1: story about it, so it could all be a bunch 266 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:40,120 Speaker 1: of lies anyway, but it's it's I'd like to believe 267 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: in my mind that's a real four oh nine. So 268 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:44,920 Speaker 1: just a little bit of I'm just a fountain of 269 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:47,679 Speaker 1: useless information. What can I tell you? Let's open the 270 00:13:47,720 --> 00:13:49,839 Speaker 1: garage doors quick, let's go and talk to Paul. I 271 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: guess that's Huntington, New York. Oh one Chevy has ten 272 00:13:52,120 --> 00:13:54,240 Speaker 1: pick up and see how let's see what's going on here, Paul, 273 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,920 Speaker 1: Welcome to ronan Ady and the car doctor. Sir, how 274 00:13:55,920 --> 00:14:02,240 Speaker 1: can I help O one s ten Chevy pickup. It's 275 00:14:02,280 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: an air conditioning problem. Worked a few times early this season, 276 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,840 Speaker 1: then we were away for about six weeks. It sat outside, 277 00:14:10,559 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 1: and probably the first time when we were back one 278 00:14:12,840 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 1: of the warm days, it worked. Okay. Next time I 279 00:14:15,280 --> 00:14:19,560 Speaker 1: turned it on, it was just blowing warm. Uh. Pressures. 280 00:14:19,600 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: This morning I used the car this morning, I put 281 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 1: gauges on it. The low side was one, high side 282 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:29,600 Speaker 1: about ninety. Started the car up, randed for about a minute. 283 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Both pressures seemed to equalize. I saw sixty five on 284 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:36,440 Speaker 1: the low side, maybe seventy seventy five on the high side. 285 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: Shut it off, Wait another minute, and so now the 286 00:14:40,200 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 1: low sides back up to a hundred. The high side 287 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: is seventy. Okay, So it sounds like if we want 288 00:14:46,600 --> 00:14:48,440 Speaker 1: to look at pressure, and obviously you also want to 289 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 1: look at temperature that then we do the pressure test. 290 00:14:50,880 --> 00:14:53,720 Speaker 1: It sounds like it's got enough refrigerent in it. Um. 291 00:14:53,800 --> 00:14:56,960 Speaker 1: So where are we losing the electrical signal to the 292 00:14:57,040 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 1: PCM that it's not that it's not you know, turning 293 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:03,960 Speaker 1: the air conditioning on would be my first question. Well, 294 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 1: it looks to me like the compressor is engaging. I 295 00:15:06,520 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: hear it click and you can see the center part 296 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: of the hub is spinning. It is. Yes, so okay, 297 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:15,440 Speaker 1: with the compressor on. With the compressor on, you're getting 298 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: what pressures with it on, they're they're pretty much equalized. 299 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: From what I can see. There is no looks like 300 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:25,720 Speaker 1: the compressor is not doing anything. It's bringing the low 301 00:15:25,800 --> 00:15:29,480 Speaker 1: side down. For whatever reason it's that high to begin with, 302 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:32,520 Speaker 1: I don't know, but it's it's equalizing the pressure and 303 00:15:32,600 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: not doing anything else. Two thoughts come to mind, and 304 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 1: I'm sure they are. But are you certain the gauges, 305 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 1: you know, the connections have good positive contact with the schrader? Yes, okay, 306 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 1: so we're gon we're going to assume, which is a 307 00:15:47,880 --> 00:15:51,480 Speaker 1: dangerous word, that we've got good contact at the pressure ports. 308 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,440 Speaker 1: All right, then if you're telling me the compressor is engaging, 309 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 1: and you know, we want to assume also we've got 310 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 1: a correct charge in this system. All right? Then my 311 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: first thought is if I've got equal pressure you're saying 312 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: side depending upon when you're checking this, then do I 313 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: have a problem in the compressor itself? Only only because 314 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,320 Speaker 1: and I'm wondering if this is a variable displacement compressor, 315 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: is the compressor stuck at mid stroke? And I would 316 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,200 Speaker 1: have to research that because I'm trying to remember when 317 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: they failed. This is an older system, when they failed, 318 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: what did that do to system pressure? All right? But 319 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:35,080 Speaker 1: the fact that it's equal, it's equal high pressure makes 320 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: me start to think that either I can't have a restriction. 321 00:16:38,120 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 1: If I had a restriction, one side to be up, 322 00:16:39,880 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: one side to be down. All right. Uh, the fact 323 00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: that I've got equal high pressure makes me think I've 324 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 1: got some sort of a compressor issue um or, as 325 00:16:49,760 --> 00:16:52,440 Speaker 1: I said, I've got I've got and I've got gauges 326 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:54,480 Speaker 1: that I'm not really connected even though I think I am. 327 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:57,040 Speaker 1: Do you have the ability to draw the refrigerant out 328 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: and start over? Well, I'm waiting are you ordered to 329 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,160 Speaker 1: adapt this from me? But I only have a high side. 330 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: They sent me too high sighted tapers. I have old 331 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 1: R twelve gauges. All that stuff is all the old fittings. 332 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:10,760 Speaker 1: So I only have a gate my robbin their gauges 333 00:17:10,800 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: on the high side, and I have a can tapper 334 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:15,320 Speaker 1: with a gauge on it that I got at the 335 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: Auto pots store on the low side. So I don't 336 00:17:17,760 --> 00:17:20,760 Speaker 1: know how accurate that low side gauges, but I'm assuming 337 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 1: it's close enough. Yeah, I would is the see, I 338 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:29,080 Speaker 1: don't want to trust that. Um is that gauge? How 339 00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:31,199 Speaker 1: does that gauge you know, get hooked up? Is that 340 00:17:31,359 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 1: is that gauge hooked up with a can attached to it? 341 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: Or yes, yes, it's part of it. It has a valve, 342 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: it's like a trigger valve that you can let the 343 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,320 Speaker 1: refrigerant in. And it also has that gauge in that 344 00:17:41,960 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 1: can tapper part of it. Then, so let me ask 345 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: you this, how do you how do you account for 346 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:53,200 Speaker 1: how much refrigerants in the system? I have no idea. Okay, 347 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: I've had the truck since it's new. It worked perfect 348 00:17:55,600 --> 00:17:58,920 Speaker 1: for since oh one, And like I said, it's a 349 00:17:59,000 --> 00:18:01,680 Speaker 1: it's an all of a sudden thing, never any made 350 00:18:01,680 --> 00:18:04,119 Speaker 1: that's on the system. I've never trained it, never changed 351 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: the orifice or anything. I'd be curious what goes on 352 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 1: really with the gauge. I'd be curious if choking the 353 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,119 Speaker 1: gauge up with an adapter changes it. And I'd be 354 00:18:12,160 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 1: curious how much refrigerants in that system when you do 355 00:18:14,600 --> 00:18:16,359 Speaker 1: a little more testing, Paul, give me a call back, 356 00:18:16,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: let me know where you're at. Will continue along. I'm 357 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:20,520 Speaker 1: ron anating the Car Doctor or returning right after this. 358 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:33,680 Speaker 1: Don't go away? Hey, welcome back. Why don't any of 359 00:18:33,720 --> 00:18:37,920 Speaker 1: the car Doctor. I'm interesting letter before we go any further. 360 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,800 Speaker 1: By the way, at zero interesting letter from from from 361 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:44,840 Speaker 1: a listener, roll, I wanted to drop your line say 362 00:18:44,880 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: I enjoy the show as well as agree with your 363 00:18:46,520 --> 00:18:49,800 Speaker 1: memory related diagnostic to a ninety plus percent of the time. 364 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,480 Speaker 1: I'm sending you an article I have held onto since April. 365 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: I'm sure you have seen it at some point. I 366 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 1: think it's true today as well as it was twenty 367 00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:58,919 Speaker 1: years ago. I still can't teach experience. By the way, 368 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: just retired from my own order repair business thirty seven years, 369 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,160 Speaker 1: as well as twenty years. United States Air Force jet 370 00:19:04,160 --> 00:19:09,360 Speaker 1: engine technician Wayne Cardier looks like uh Orrington, Maine. UM 371 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 1: for Wayne, You know Wayne, UM, great article. The articles 372 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: the title of the last word. It was in Motor 373 00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,160 Speaker 1: magazine April of nineteen ninety six, twenty one years ago 374 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 1: this month, and UM the gist of the article, most 375 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 1: Americans don't realize what it takes to repair today's vehicles 376 00:19:24,280 --> 00:19:26,080 Speaker 1: that they did, their perception of the person who fixes 377 00:19:26,119 --> 00:19:28,119 Speaker 1: them would be a lot different. And the article goes 378 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: on to talk about, well, what we were up against 379 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: in n or, what we saw what we were going 380 00:19:33,760 --> 00:19:36,240 Speaker 1: to be up against in nine six. But the part 381 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: that gets me is today's qualified automotive technician must be 382 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 1: part mechanical engineer with an understanding of how internal combustion 383 00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,280 Speaker 1: engines and mechanical systems work and how laws of physics 384 00:19:46,320 --> 00:19:50,560 Speaker 1: and motion caused parts to wear outter malfunction. Part chemical engineer, 385 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:54,840 Speaker 1: an expert in hydraulics, knowledge and basic geometry and electrical systems, expert, 386 00:19:54,880 --> 00:19:58,560 Speaker 1: computer savvy, an accomplished mathematician and proficient in both the 387 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: English and Metric system of measurement, and be able to 388 00:20:00,960 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 1: convert these measurements in his head. You know this is 389 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:09,239 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. It hasn't gotten any simpler. You know 390 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,200 Speaker 1: now today I would add, it's not mechanical engineer, it's 391 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 1: electrical engineer. And with everything leading towards computers, obviously we're there. 392 00:20:18,280 --> 00:20:21,360 Speaker 1: It's not leading. Uh. The the article couldn't be more 393 00:20:21,440 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: self prophesizing when it says automotive technicians will also use 394 00:20:25,400 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: their senses of site, smell, hearing, and touch to find 395 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,360 Speaker 1: the source of problems. As they go about diagnosing problems, 396 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: technicians will have the ability to analyze inputs, isolated faults 397 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: and make for current repairs, be ninety degree heat or 398 00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,800 Speaker 1: frigid weather conditions. And when it comes to an automotive 399 00:20:38,920 --> 00:20:43,480 Speaker 1: industry technicians personality profile, we expect the patients of job, 400 00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:46,400 Speaker 1: the compassion of mother Teresa, and the honesty of George Washington. 401 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: Shop owners and car owners covered a good technician. When 402 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: they find one of qualified automotive technician is a rare 403 00:20:52,119 --> 00:20:55,800 Speaker 1: individual with exceptional skills, is it a wonder there's a shortage. 404 00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,199 Speaker 1: And part of what that article talks about is is 405 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: you can't replace experience, and there's a huge experience shortage. 406 00:21:06,960 --> 00:21:10,960 Speaker 1: We're not we're not nurturing it. We're not going to 407 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: we don't like it. It seems maybe we don't want 408 00:21:15,119 --> 00:21:18,480 Speaker 1: to pay for it both. You know, maybe the garages 409 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 1: themselves don't want to pay for experience, and maybe the 410 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,320 Speaker 1: consumer doesn't want to pay for experience. But yet we 411 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 1: all want to get our car fixed. We want to 412 00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,199 Speaker 1: get our house built correctly. We want to get the 413 00:21:28,280 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: roof installed right, we want to have our brakes done safely. 414 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:38,119 Speaker 1: And there's it's it's difficult to comprehend, but we're reaching 415 00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: the point where we could have a problem. And I 416 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,720 Speaker 1: think we do have a problem in the sense that 417 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: there's a huge shortage of technicians and well qualified technicians, 418 00:21:49,640 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: people that will work on the car like their mom 419 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:55,200 Speaker 1: or sister or their family was in it. Had a 420 00:21:55,240 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: two thousand five Toyota Highlander this week at the shop 421 00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:00,879 Speaker 1: doing valve cover gaskets, and I'll go back to the 422 00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:02,560 Speaker 1: phones in a second. If everybody could just sit tight, 423 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: I appreciate it um and doing valve cover gaskets. Now 424 00:22:07,240 --> 00:22:10,080 Speaker 1: there's an issue on the V six Toyota is not 425 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: only do they you know, ten twelve years later they're 426 00:22:13,359 --> 00:22:15,280 Speaker 1: going through head gaskets and this one's been leaking for 427 00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:19,880 Speaker 1: a long time, but there's also an issue with your 428 00:22:19,920 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: going to remove the coils. You have to take the 429 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,359 Speaker 1: coils out. To take the valve covers off, the little 430 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:30,960 Speaker 1: safety lock connector that you depress the safety tab you 431 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: push down and the connector pops off. They're brittle from 432 00:22:35,000 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: the heat. The underhood heat is so high. And now 433 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,920 Speaker 1: they're ten, eleven, twelve years old and older, and the 434 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:47,080 Speaker 1: little plastic connector is breaking, and you know, it's just 435 00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: what you want to do. You want to do in 436 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: a nine hundred thousand dollar repair of valve cover gaskets, 437 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:54,879 Speaker 1: spark plug maintenance, a few other odds and ends, and 438 00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:57,640 Speaker 1: hand the customer back of car where the electrical connector 439 00:22:57,760 --> 00:23:00,960 Speaker 1: is our TV glued onto the coil with a bunch 440 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: of tie straps, and it looks like something a third 441 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:06,240 Speaker 1: grader did with all thumbs. All right, because that'll in 442 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: still confidence, Because if you're gonna put your wife and 443 00:23:08,600 --> 00:23:10,640 Speaker 1: kids in that car, you'd be happy to let them 444 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: out at three o'clock in the morning, driving down a 445 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:15,000 Speaker 1: dark road in the middle of nowhere, confident that they'll 446 00:23:15,000 --> 00:23:17,959 Speaker 1: come back, because when's that repair gonna fail? The google 447 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:21,000 Speaker 1: repair usually fails when you need it the most, But 448 00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,879 Speaker 1: it's not the coil everybody out there can sit there 449 00:23:23,880 --> 00:23:26,119 Speaker 1: and say, you know what, there's six cylinders on this 450 00:23:26,359 --> 00:23:28,280 Speaker 1: it could lose one coil connector in the car would 451 00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: keep driving, That's right. But if we teach the technicians 452 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:39,320 Speaker 1: to do a Rube Goldberg repair there, we're teaching them 453 00:23:39,320 --> 00:23:42,760 Speaker 1: to do a Rube Goldberg repair on the critical junctures, 454 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: ignition switches, fuel pump connections, crank sensors, crank sensor connector 455 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: falls off. The car is done, it'll shut off right 456 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: wherever it is on the highway with an eighteen wheeler 457 00:23:55,600 --> 00:23:59,520 Speaker 1: behind it, or on a dark country road somewhere in 458 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,040 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere, when you're depending upon it the most, 459 00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:04,080 Speaker 1: and in some cases it's a life and death situation. 460 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 1: You know, you wonder, I always think in my mind 461 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: that that car I'm working on could be carrying an 462 00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:13,119 Speaker 1: expectant woman to the hospital at three o'clock in the morning. 463 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,080 Speaker 1: That car better get there. So my point is, as 464 00:24:17,119 --> 00:24:20,560 Speaker 1: this article points out, you can't teach experience, And I wonder, 465 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: you know, we talked about all these wonderful things with 466 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,600 Speaker 1: cars and the technology and how it's gonna be great 467 00:24:26,600 --> 00:24:30,200 Speaker 1: in flying cars and self driving cars. Who's gonna fix 468 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: them and and where's that experience going to come from 469 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,639 Speaker 1: and what does that transition look like? And that's the 470 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,439 Speaker 1: tough part that I have with That's the part I 471 00:24:38,480 --> 00:24:41,400 Speaker 1: don't get, and I really have a hard time swallowing 472 00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,159 Speaker 1: that we're going to be effective at this. I just 473 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: I just don't see it. So um. By the way, 474 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 1: and in support of this, we were talking last week 475 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 1: and I've got a bunch of letters and emails. I 476 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:52,639 Speaker 1: want to just point this out. I realized this is 477 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:54,640 Speaker 1: a nationally syndicated show and a lot of you won't 478 00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 1: be around, but if you are in New Jersey. Uh, 479 00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,800 Speaker 1: the week of its week of June of this year, 480 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: June seven, Um, I am. I am going to be there, 481 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,680 Speaker 1: not the boys. It's a Wednesday night at the Wayne 482 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: Hills Wayne Auto Shop. Uh. They're doing a classic car 483 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:15,560 Speaker 1: show and kind of a job fair. They're going to 484 00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: have some of the trade schools there and you know, 485 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:20,879 Speaker 1: showing what they're working on and how they're working on. 486 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:22,680 Speaker 1: It's a car show. It's a classic car show and 487 00:25:22,680 --> 00:25:24,880 Speaker 1: a newer car show. It's just a good time out 488 00:25:24,880 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 1: in North Jersey on a Wednesday night. So I'm gonna 489 00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:31,040 Speaker 1: take blackout for a rod and um, you know, enjoy myself, 490 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,200 Speaker 1: but just going out to support the kids because I 491 00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:37,040 Speaker 1: think it's important. I guess my point is that if 492 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: you've got the opportunity to you know, takes a village 493 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,679 Speaker 1: to raise a child, if you've got the opportunity to 494 00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:48,240 Speaker 1: do something and be a rising tide to help these kids, Um, 495 00:25:48,280 --> 00:25:50,600 Speaker 1: they surely need it because they are really up against 496 00:25:50,680 --> 00:25:54,360 Speaker 1: it with the technology that's coming down the road. Zero 497 00:25:54,920 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: zero rondating the car Doctor. We're coming back right after this. 498 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:10,480 Speaker 1: Don't go away, Hey, welcome back the car doctor. Um. Yeah, 499 00:26:10,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 1: by the way, that's and that's real. Uh, you know, Wednesday, 500 00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:16,320 Speaker 1: June seven, I will be in Wayne, New Jersey at 501 00:26:16,359 --> 00:26:18,960 Speaker 1: the Wayne High School and Wayne I think it's Wayne 502 00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: Valley and Wayne Hills Auto Show. I'm not sure exactly 503 00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,639 Speaker 1: where it is, but I'm sure they'll be signs up 504 00:26:23,640 --> 00:26:26,080 Speaker 1: in the town. Um. But again, supporting the kids. You 505 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:28,400 Speaker 1: gotta support the kids there the next generation of technicians. 506 00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,360 Speaker 1: Let's get over to the phones. Zero zero zero car number. 507 00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,520 Speaker 1: Let's go and talk to Greg Toyota camera and some 508 00:26:36,560 --> 00:26:38,880 Speaker 1: comments about an oil league. Greg. Welcome to the car Doctor, sir. 509 00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: How can I help for taking my call, first time 510 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:45,560 Speaker 1: caller and just relatively new listener. Oh great, thank you 511 00:26:45,600 --> 00:26:49,479 Speaker 1: for being here. Yeah, I appreciate it. Hey, just let 512 00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:54,479 Speaker 1: you know I had we had a Toyota camera and 513 00:26:55,160 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: after the five thousand mile UM inspection, I started noticing 514 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:05,440 Speaker 1: an oil leak in our driveway and and got to 515 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: check in it out and took it back to the dealership, 516 00:27:08,440 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: and they all the the service tech must have started 517 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: changed the oil and realized that it wasn't due yet 518 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: because it was new at that point and we were 519 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: just seeing residual leaking. Well, then I kind of blew 520 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:24,119 Speaker 1: it off and took it on the chin, and and 521 00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,719 Speaker 1: then when it came to the ten thousand mile oil 522 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: change after that, it was still leaking. And so I 523 00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:35,360 Speaker 1: took it upon myself to get underneath the car clean 524 00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 1: everything off, to find that the leak wasn't coming from 525 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:42,359 Speaker 1: the oil filter, but it was coming from a bolt 526 00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 1: hole that I think the air conditioner bracket, but the 527 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: air conditioners attached to a black bracket just above the 528 00:27:51,040 --> 00:27:55,520 Speaker 1: oil filter housing. And what we had found out was 529 00:27:55,680 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: is that sure enough, oil was coming out of the 530 00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,399 Speaker 1: boat hole. I didn't get to see it myself. They 531 00:28:01,440 --> 00:28:03,560 Speaker 1: only showed me a picture of the whole in question 532 00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 1: where the oil was coming out of, and they said 533 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: it wasn't a crack, but there might have been a 534 00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:10,720 Speaker 1: flaw in the casting or the bull hoole might have 535 00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: penetrated somewhere in that upper oil pan as they called it, 536 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:17,640 Speaker 1: the oil galley area. Yeah, so they had to fit. 537 00:28:17,720 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: I tried looking it up and I couldn't find that. 538 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, I've never heard of an oil upper oil 539 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,760 Speaker 1: pan for that matter, But anyhow, it's the whole U 540 00:28:26,160 --> 00:28:28,680 Speaker 1: sandwich about h. I don't know how many inches thick 541 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:31,280 Speaker 1: of aluminum casting. But they had to pull the engine 542 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:36,399 Speaker 1: completely out of the car, replace that whole UM upper 543 00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:41,480 Speaker 1: oil pan assembly itself, and then reassemble everything. And so far, 544 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 1: so good in the leak because I'm just thinking that 545 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: if it was, you know, an isolated incident, or if 546 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:50,960 Speaker 1: there were more incidences, that people were just kind of 547 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,240 Speaker 1: blowing it off and not realizing that it's actual issue 548 00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,440 Speaker 1: or could be an issue. And then my follow up 549 00:28:58,480 --> 00:29:01,920 Speaker 1: to that is I've asked the dealership and they're going 550 00:29:01,960 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: to bat for me to um again give me a 551 00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:11,120 Speaker 1: good platinum extension on the warranty for the vehicle since 552 00:29:11,160 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: this was our first new Toyota that we had purchased. 553 00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:16,840 Speaker 1: We've had a good used one in the past, but 554 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:18,720 Speaker 1: this is our first new one that we've ever bought. 555 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:23,000 Speaker 1: So I was hoping that they were going to um 556 00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: give us um you know, some type of extension on 557 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:28,680 Speaker 1: that sense. Everything under the hood has been compromised at 558 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:32,800 Speaker 1: this point with removal of that engine. Yeah. No, and 559 00:29:32,840 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: I and I agree, and it's it's nice to hear 560 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:39,280 Speaker 1: the dealers stepping up and U and you know, listen, 561 00:29:39,320 --> 00:29:42,160 Speaker 1: I talked bad about some repair shops and dealers, and 562 00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,560 Speaker 1: I think there's some bad but then as you indicate, 563 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:47,720 Speaker 1: there's a lot of good ones too, And you know, 564 00:29:47,840 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: I think unfortunately it was your turn in the barrel. 565 00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:51,840 Speaker 1: You just happen to get the one. I have not 566 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,160 Speaker 1: heard this um before as a complaint a right, and 567 00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 1: that's and that's why I figured it for. Like I said, 568 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,960 Speaker 1: whether it was is isolated, but just in the whole 569 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 1: casting and even the dealership. You said, oh, you know, 570 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: we could have we could have plugged the hole with 571 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 1: goop and you know, probably gotten by, but Toyota themselves 572 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:14,360 Speaker 1: said no, they wanted to see the the casting, so 573 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,880 Speaker 1: that involved again a good amount of hours for them 574 00:30:17,920 --> 00:30:20,880 Speaker 1: to clean jerk everything out of the car. And did 575 00:30:20,880 --> 00:30:23,680 Speaker 1: they did they replace that? Did they replace the entire engine? 576 00:30:23,680 --> 00:30:26,400 Speaker 1: Greg or just the bottom half? No, just the bottom, 577 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,880 Speaker 1: just that bottom upper oil and a fambly But again 578 00:30:30,880 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: it was a complete I mean, they just as well, 579 00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,080 Speaker 1: you know, done it by the time they spent all 580 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:40,320 Speaker 1: that time and effort pulling the engine out. But told 581 00:30:40,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 1: him otherwise, you know, just replace that that upper half, 582 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,920 Speaker 1: which again you got all the timing covers, you got 583 00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,440 Speaker 1: the transmission bell housing, you got all the fluids, everything 584 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:53,920 Speaker 1: that was connected to that, you know, And that's that 585 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:56,240 Speaker 1: was my not my argument, but that was my concern 586 00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:59,240 Speaker 1: is that because everything has been compromised, how do you 587 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:04,920 Speaker 1: justify any future repair on the vehicle that involved everything 588 00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: under the hood with that removal reinstallation? So right now 589 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: it's inn I think it's Toyota financial acceptance or whatever 590 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:18,040 Speaker 1: is is um taking the reins on it at this point. 591 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,520 Speaker 1: But the dealer got me that far. So we're just 592 00:31:20,600 --> 00:31:23,760 Speaker 1: waiting to find out if if they're gonna extend my 593 00:31:24,920 --> 00:31:28,920 Speaker 1: uh again warranty you know, above and beyond and and 594 00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,760 Speaker 1: keep me covered because we'd like to keep the car 595 00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: for a long time. But it was kind of disheartening 596 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 1: to have had that. And if if I'm the only one, 597 00:31:35,560 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: then great. It was just isolated case. How many miles 598 00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,840 Speaker 1: on the car? Grea right now? About twelve thou ask him? 599 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: Ask him what would it take to swap you out 600 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 1: of it? Yeah? True, that's another path that we can 601 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:53,960 Speaker 1: go down, you know, And and you know, obviously the 602 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:56,840 Speaker 1: concern of the part you would have to get past 603 00:31:56,880 --> 00:31:59,280 Speaker 1: in your head financially is you know, if they said 604 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 1: to you, hey know, Greg, listen for eight grand will 605 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,960 Speaker 1: get you into um, you know you spending eight grand 606 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: you didn't have to spend or are you you know 607 00:32:08,400 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: it's you're you know, you're you've been driving the car 608 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 1: for what a year and a half now, yeah, just 609 00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: a little over a year for us. Okay, So it's 610 00:32:18,040 --> 00:32:20,240 Speaker 1: it's it's a year's worth of driving. What's a year's 611 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,000 Speaker 1: worth of driving? And the depreciation of a new car 612 00:32:23,080 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 1: worth It can't hurt, you know, it's just it's just 613 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 1: a thought. Because you're right, everything's been compromised. Now, I 614 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:33,360 Speaker 1: will tell you this, a repair of that magnitude, I 615 00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:36,480 Speaker 1: absolutely guarantee you the a tech and the shop was 616 00:32:36,520 --> 00:32:39,680 Speaker 1: working on it. That's what we were told. Yeah, that 617 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,120 Speaker 1: wasn't being done by the oil change kid, and you know, 618 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: you just you know, there's the problem is that car 619 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,720 Speaker 1: is now noted on Carfax that that's the that's the 620 00:32:50,720 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: repair that was done. When you go to when you 621 00:32:53,400 --> 00:32:57,280 Speaker 1: go to trade that car in that that'll be a 622 00:32:57,320 --> 00:33:00,320 Speaker 1: big flag. And that's going to affect the resale value. 623 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: And you know that's which I don't necessarily agree with, 624 00:33:03,600 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: but it will affect recent value right unless you get 625 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,520 Speaker 1: it back through the same dealership. You know, then they're 626 00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:11,840 Speaker 1: were of the record and yeah, there's one that's got 627 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:15,080 Speaker 1: to take care of it after that. But so alright, alright, 628 00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,680 Speaker 1: listen you um, you know, you do what you gotta do, 629 00:33:17,680 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: do your due diligence. There's some thoughts for you, but 630 00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 1: if you need any more help, I'm curious. Would you 631 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,320 Speaker 1: please promise give me a call back and let me 632 00:33:23,400 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 1: know how this works out for you, because I want 633 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,240 Speaker 1: to uh, I want to hear the tale end of it. Greg. 634 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,960 Speaker 1: I wish you and yours is the best to look 635 00:33:29,000 --> 00:33:30,840 Speaker 1: with it. I'm mar Any of the card doctor eight 636 00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: five five zero nine zero zero. We're coming back right 637 00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:38,720 Speaker 1: after this welcome back, weren't any of the card octerated 638 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,560 Speaker 1: by five zero nine zero toll free number. By the way, 639 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,959 Speaker 1: you don't forget. You can call that number and leave 640 00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,240 Speaker 1: a message. If we're not here, if you're podcasting or 641 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: taking this show, when we're not on the air live 642 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,520 Speaker 1: network time two to four pm Saturday afternoon Eastern Time, 643 00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:55,440 Speaker 1: you can call eight five zero nine zero, leave a message. 644 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:58,360 Speaker 1: Tom Ray will call you back and put you on 645 00:33:58,440 --> 00:34:00,160 Speaker 1: show and we can talk about your car problem when 646 00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:02,600 Speaker 1: you're when you're ready, quick email run as a follow 647 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:04,520 Speaker 1: up to your concerned about the quality of car parts. 648 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,440 Speaker 1: This is from Richard in Connecticut. I draw your attention 649 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 1: to the Bloomberg Business Week article March seven three or Prill, 650 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 1: second page forty six, the article don't let a Monster 651 00:34:13,000 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: Kill You. The article talks about the tremendous pressure that's 652 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: applied to the line work in the United States, who 653 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,640 Speaker 1: is constantly under pressure to increase production, and the toll 654 00:34:19,640 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: it takes on the human beings that are on the line. 655 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: I also note the cover page entitled New Detroit in 656 00:34:23,840 --> 00:34:26,640 Speaker 1: the South, manufacturing renaissance comes with a heavy price, and 657 00:34:26,680 --> 00:34:29,320 Speaker 1: it talks about the workers on the line trying to 658 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 1: produce parts and losing arms, hands, legs. He says, um, 659 00:34:32,920 --> 00:34:36,320 Speaker 1: just a dangerous place to be. He's absolutely right, Richard, Um. 660 00:34:36,360 --> 00:34:38,400 Speaker 1: I couldn't have said it better myself. There's gotta be 661 00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,120 Speaker 1: a balance, which isn't always easy to find sometime in 662 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: this day and age. It always it's always about the buck, 663 00:34:43,160 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: right So but um, anyway, I appreciate your comments and 664 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 1: a happy motor unto you and yours. I'm ring any 665 00:34:48,280 --> 00:34:50,360 Speaker 1: in the card doctor bill the next time. Good mechanics 666 00:34:50,400 --> 00:35:04,560 Speaker 1: aren't expensive, they're priceless. See you shills, sto