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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody? Welcome to move the sticks, DJ, Bucky,

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Speaker 1: Rhett with you on a Halloween and Buck. I know

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Speaker 1: Quick reminder, you can find Thursday Night Football on Prime Video.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure that's a problem show, so just go ahead

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Speaker 1: into the big three here, guys, we're gonna look at

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Speaker 1: the game last night. Starting off, This was a game

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Speaker 1: was competitive. It was a competitive football game, but one

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Speaker 1: Let's go Cards Vikings. This was an entertaining game. The

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Speaker 1: seven times in the last two games and he's caught

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Speaker 1: balls for over two hundred and sixty yards. So, um, yeah,

432
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Speaker 1: there's a reason they went out and traded for him.

433
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Speaker 1: He's a big piece and a focal point of this

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Speaker 1: Cardinal's offense, and it feels like they have a shot

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Speaker 1: in any game as long as he is, they're in healthy.

436
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Speaker 1: And then you throw in a couple of contributions from

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Speaker 1: Rondale Moore here like we saw against the Vikings, and

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Speaker 1: I'm telling you that the Cardinals, that they could take

439
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Speaker 1: care of the football, can at least put some points

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Speaker 1: on the board. And no doubt, de Hopp remind everybody

441
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Speaker 1: again how good he is talking about Dalvin Cook serving

442
00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,000
Speaker 1: a reminder in that football game. De hop doing the

443
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Speaker 1: same thing as well. A right, let's move on here,

444
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:04,399
Speaker 1: Lions Dolphins, Buck, this is a Dolphins offense that's humming

445
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Speaker 1: right now to what looks as comfortable as we've ever

446
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Speaker 1: seen him. What do you attribute it to? Attribute to? Uh?

447
00:20:10,680 --> 00:20:13,359
Speaker 1: My mean name and those guys put them in Alabama's offense.

448
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,560
Speaker 1: Meaning when I look at two A talking about lower,

449
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,280
Speaker 1: it is like he's playing back in college. He's surrounded

450
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Speaker 1: by a level playmakers on the outside, Tyreek Hill and

451
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Speaker 1: jan and Waddle mike A Sikey. Uh. The running game

452
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Speaker 1: is beginning to get going, and they're calling plays that

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Speaker 1: are very similar to the plays that I saw him

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Speaker 1: execute during his time with the Cripson Tide, And so

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Speaker 1: the r p O s the quick things, the balls

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Speaker 1: designed to get the ball in the hands of the

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Speaker 1: playmakers right away. That is what they're doing. And as

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Speaker 1: a result, this office is humming. I mean, it is

459
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Speaker 1: really difficult to deal with all the speed and explosives

460
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Speaker 1: they have on the outside where you have a trigger

461
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Speaker 1: man that gets the ball out of his hands as

462
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Speaker 1: quick as to a talking about lawa And yeah, you

463
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Speaker 1: can debate whether he's a franchise caliber quarterback and elite

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Speaker 1: quarterback or whatever, but right now in this offense, this

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Speaker 1: dude looks like a real dude. Hats off to the

466
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Speaker 1: Miami Dolphins coaches death for putting him in his comfort zone.

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Speaker 1: And I keep my thoughts short and sweet on two

468
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Speaker 1: watching this, to me, I just kept writing down my paper. Fast, fast, slow,

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Speaker 1: He's he's fast getting in his setup, he's fast working

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Speaker 1: through progressions. And then sometimes you'll see guys when they're

471
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Speaker 1: that kind of twitchy and explosive, you'll see everything get

472
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Speaker 1: rushed when you're throwing the football. He was able to

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Speaker 1: go fast with his feet, fast with his eyes, and

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Speaker 1: then he was able to kind of gather himself and

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Speaker 1: be able to deliver the ball, you know, accurately. And

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Speaker 1: the other thing is he knows where to go with

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Speaker 1: the football. Every snap, the ball is going to the

478
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Speaker 1: right place. Now you can nit pick and say, oh,

479
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Speaker 1: this ball is under thrown, this one's on the back shoulder.

480
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Speaker 1: Even at the highest level of football red in the NFL,

481
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Speaker 1: when you know where to go with the football and

482
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Speaker 1: you get it out on time, there is a little

483
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Speaker 1: bit of forgiveness in terms of the ball placement. Now.

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Speaker 1: I do think much like Drew Brees, once you once

485
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Speaker 1: you get into the postseason, those windows shrink and I

486
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Speaker 1: know all the speed they have. I know about Tyreek,

487
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Speaker 1: I know about Wattle, the separation they generate even with

488
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Speaker 1: those guys in the postseason. Thats so some of that

489
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Speaker 1: ball placement stuff, Okay, it's gonna need to get a

490
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Speaker 1: little bit better as they as they make a run

491
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Speaker 1: hopefully get into the postseason. I'm telling you what, man,

492
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Speaker 1: you'd be hard pressed to find a handful of players

493
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Speaker 1: where the ball doesn't go exactly where it's supposed to go.

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Speaker 1: That explosive passes two hundred sixty four yards and yeah,

495
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Speaker 1: you're right. The separation that Wattle and Hill generate also

496
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Speaker 1: kind of contributes and gives to a little extra room

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Speaker 1: if that ball placement isn't perfect. Um. I just I

498
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Speaker 1: feel like McDaniel even when it's not just pure speed

499
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Speaker 1: winning and there was plenty of that in this game.

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Speaker 1: You want to think about the Wattle touchdown. That was

501
00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,680
Speaker 1: a beautiful throw right here. Uh, I mean, Wattle wins

502
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Speaker 1: right away, but even then McDaniel is providing just a

503
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Speaker 1: little extra separation with some of the you know, the

504
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Speaker 1: little rubs, the little um just just kind of getting

505
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Speaker 1: in the way of a defender that's trying uh to

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Speaker 1: keep up with Jalen Waddle and Tyreek Hill, which is

507
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Speaker 1: no small task even if you have a free go

508
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Speaker 1: to do it. And so like they generate some of

509
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Speaker 1: that separate ration, the receivers create that separation. And I

510
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Speaker 1: don't think there is any defense in football and any

511
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Speaker 1: situation in which you're playing the Miami Dolphins offense where

512
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Speaker 1: the safeties can be flat footed like it looked like

513
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Speaker 1: on it. There was a third and thirteen and the

514
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Speaker 1: lines are like, all right, you know what, we're gonna

515
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Speaker 1: get into some quarter coverage here. We're gonna keep the

516
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Speaker 1: safeties right at that first down line, and we're gonna

517
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Speaker 1: kind of keep them right there. Bad move right because

518
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Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill breaks down that separation and that gap, that

519
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Speaker 1: pushion and he is off to the races. Which was

520
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Speaker 1: another one of those explosive plays. And Bucky, let me

521
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Speaker 1: ask you this here on on the way that the

522
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Speaker 1: Miami operates, is they almost feel like teams need to

523
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Speaker 1: start playing, uh the Dolphins kind of the way we

524
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Speaker 1: saw teams start to play the Chiefs a year ago,

525
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Speaker 1: putting two safeties in the parking lot and just trying

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Speaker 1: to keep everything in front of them. Oh, I mean

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Speaker 1: I think so. I think you have to park if anything,

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Speaker 1: I want to make them play check down football, make

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Speaker 1: them drive the left of the field on a bunch

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Speaker 1: of short plays. You cannot allow the Miami Dolphins to

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Speaker 1: play like to go to State Warriors where Tyreek Hill

532
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Speaker 1: and Jay and wall or catching passes and they're doing

533
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Speaker 1: their celebration and they're able to get their team up

534
00:24:04,800 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 1: and going because they're waddling down the field. You don't

535
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Speaker 1: want that juice and energy on the field. I think

536
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Speaker 1: you do have to take that away. But I want

537
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Speaker 1: to say this about two because people have made this

538
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Speaker 1: point about a supporting staff. We had an opportunity to

539
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Speaker 1: watch the Dolphins office operate with Teddy Bridgewater and Scotlett

540
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Speaker 1: Thompson running the offense, and it didn't look like the

541
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Speaker 1: same version of the offense were two a tog Abolowa.

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Speaker 1: Regardless of whether people like him or not when he

543
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Speaker 1: was coming out, you have to acknowledge he is good

544
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Speaker 1: enough in this office to be considered an upper level guy.

545
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Speaker 1: He's played well, executed what he's been asked to do,

546
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Speaker 1: and this this offense is really humming. I think they're

547
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Speaker 1: a very scary team to watch on the offense when

548
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Speaker 1: Two was under center and Buck. I think it is

549
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Speaker 1: also what you brought up earlier about Kevin O'Connell having

550
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Speaker 1: that relationship between the head coach and the quarterback and

551
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Speaker 1: it just works. And this is Mike McDaniel who was

552
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Speaker 1: designed this offense specifically around the skill set of Tool

553
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Speaker 1: and as you mentioned, you know, putting that track team

554
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Speaker 1: around him helps as well. All Right, we're gonna take

555
00:25:03,080 --> 00:25:04,960
Speaker 1: a quick break and when we come back, we're gonna

556
00:25:05,000 --> 00:25:08,359
Speaker 1: get over to the NFC East. The Eagles and the

557
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,479
Speaker 1: Cowboys are rolling and we're going to discuss why right

558
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Speaker 1: after this. This is a division that we always feel

559
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Speaker 1: like you might be forced to talk about. I think

560
00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:22,960
Speaker 1: anybody in media says, all the NFC East. We've always

561
00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:24,920
Speaker 1: got to talk about the NFC East. In some years

562
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,840
Speaker 1: it is like pulling teeth to come up with something

563
00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: interesting to talk about. This is not one of those. Uh.

564
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Speaker 1: This is a division right now that is rolling. We

565
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Speaker 1: talked about the Giants a little bit earlier. They lost,

566
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Speaker 1: but they're still sitting at six and two. The Cowboys

567
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get to in just a minute, coming off

568
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,320
Speaker 1: a big win over the Bears. But let's start here

569
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Speaker 1: with the Eagles. This is a dismantling of the Pittsburgh

570
00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: Steelers thirty five to thirteen. Buck your takeaway here watching

571
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Speaker 1: this Eagles team seven and oh undefeated at this point

572
00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,159
Speaker 1: in time, DJ read, They're built for it. They're built

573
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Speaker 1: to make a run at the title, Howie Roseman, Nick Sirianni,

574
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Speaker 1: Da've assembled a team that has all the ingredients you

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Speaker 1: need to have to be a championship team. Championship teams

576
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: and in this league can run the football, they can

577
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Speaker 1: rush the pass, and they can cover the perimeter. Playmakers.

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Speaker 1: When when I look at the Philadelphia Eagles. They can

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Speaker 1: do all of those things. Jalen Hrston company are getting

580
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Speaker 1: down running the football in a very exciting and creative way. Yes,

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Speaker 1: there's probaly in those big passes out the A. J.

582
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:22,679
Speaker 1: Brown and DeVante Smith, but it's the running game that

583
00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:26,800
Speaker 1: is the foundation of their offense. On defense, their trench warriors.

584
00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:28,879
Speaker 1: They can come at you with a variety of different

585
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Speaker 1: pass rushers to knock around the quarterback, and if the

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Speaker 1: quarterback is fortunate enough to get it off, they have

587
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Speaker 1: cover guys in the back end that can take it away.

588
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: In today's game, you have to have pass rushers, cover guys.

589
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:41,639
Speaker 1: You've gotta be able to control the game in the

590
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Speaker 1: second half. The Eagles can do all of that. And

591
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Speaker 1: because of that, man, they are looking like the heavyweight

592
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Speaker 1: contender in the NFC. Yeah, and I was actually going

593
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Speaker 1: through a little exercise of going back and looking at

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Speaker 1: the two thousand four Eagles team. So this is the

595
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Speaker 1: team that lost in the Super Bowl to the New

596
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Speaker 1: England Patriots. This is a team that also started out

597
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Speaker 1: seven and and when you look at some of the

598
00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: key components of that team, you can look at a

599
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 1: good offensive line, you can look at an extremely deep

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Speaker 1: defensive line. You know, you forget that defensive line group,

601
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Speaker 1: Hugh Douglas. You had Jamal Green, Javon Curse, McDougal, Corey Simon,

602
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: Darwin Walker. They had tons of waves of guys that

603
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: the Eagles have that on this group. To the other

604
00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: thing they had is that Eagles team had Terrell Owens

605
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,840
Speaker 1: and this Eagles team has a j. Brown and guys.

606
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: To me, he's playing at that type of level. This

607
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:29,879
Speaker 1: is a three touchdown game, could have been more. You

608
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,159
Speaker 1: saw him getting vertical, you saw him on digs, you

609
00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:34,520
Speaker 1: saw them going three by one to isolate him and

610
00:27:34,600 --> 00:27:37,800
Speaker 1: just going after the Pittsburgh Steelers. When you pull up

611
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 1: the numbers, he's on pace for ninety five catches, sixteen

612
00:27:40,920 --> 00:27:43,760
Speaker 1: hundred yards and twelve touchdowns t O in that year

613
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Speaker 1: only played fourteen games, seventy seven touchdowns twelve or seventy

614
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Speaker 1: seven catches, twelve yards, fourteen touchdowns, TiO average eighty five

615
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Speaker 1: point seven yards per game Brown's average and ninety four

616
00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,720
Speaker 1: point one yards per game. This team reminds me so

617
00:27:57,800 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: much of that group. They weren't able to finish it

618
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Speaker 1: in the Bowl, but this is a this is a

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Speaker 1: component to their team that is, Uh, it's fun to

620
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Speaker 1: watch every week. Then just get after people through the year,

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Speaker 1: A J. Brown has been outstanding. How about a major

622
00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:14,160
Speaker 1: hat to Jalen Hurts, especially on some of those throws,

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Speaker 1: Like those throws were under indefensible from the Pittsburgh Sis.

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Speaker 1: I mean, like A J. Brown had defenders nearby on

625
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,560
Speaker 1: a couple of those vertical routes that ended up in

626
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Speaker 1: those three touchdowns and Hurts absolutely dropping it in the

627
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 1: bucket on those plays, one of them through double coverage.

628
00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: So I mean, I guess it's really impressive the way

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Speaker 1: that this quarterback has developed that aspect of his game

630
00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 1: certainly keeps all that great athleticism that we love too.

631
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Speaker 1: But look at I mean you mentioned in leading into

632
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,040
Speaker 1: this game, DJ, look at the NFC East like it's

633
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,640
Speaker 1: the best division in football right now. I mean you've

634
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,720
Speaker 1: got two six and two teams and the only undefeated

635
00:28:51,720 --> 00:28:54,239
Speaker 1: team in the league. Uh, you know, like we do

636
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: have some questions on whether the Giants formula is sustainable

637
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 1: and we're gonna find out, but they've given themselves a

638
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,160
Speaker 1: great cushion at a six and to start eight games,

639
00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:05,040
Speaker 1: right and then Dallas man We're gonna get into Dallas

640
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:06,800
Speaker 1: here in a minute. And uh, I get some We

641
00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 1: gotta give some credit to Kellen Moore for how he's

642
00:29:08,680 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 1: transformed this offense too. I'll do that here in a

643
00:29:10,560 --> 00:29:13,800
Speaker 1: little bit. But big picture, I mean, even Washington is

644
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 1: not out of it with the way that Taylor Heineke

645
00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:17,760
Speaker 1: has sparked this team at quarterback. We'll talk about his

646
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,600
Speaker 1: performance a little bit as well. I'm here for the

647
00:29:20,680 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: NFC East, like there's no denying it this year. Yeah,

648
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,479
Speaker 1: no doubt. And I'm telling you, I know the Dolphins

649
00:29:26,520 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 1: had a little slippage without Ta Can we be heading

650
00:29:28,920 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: toward us an Alabama rematch? Can we be heading to

651
00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: the super Bowl. We've got Jalen Hurts who lost his

652
00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:36,960
Speaker 1: job to toa and they square off in the dank

653
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,360
Speaker 1: super Bowl. It might be coming on a year where

654
00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,960
Speaker 1: Jalen hurtus the MVP of the league. I mean, we've

655
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of a fun little subplot there. We'll see how

656
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,640
Speaker 1: this whole thing shakes out. All right, Let's go Bears Cowboys. Uh,

657
00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 1: this is a game guys that uh you know, Dallas

658
00:29:51,080 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 1: Cowboys ended up running away from it. And I guess

659
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,040
Speaker 1: we can start there who wants to start us off? Buck,

660
00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: You want to start us off with just seeing this

661
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,320
Speaker 1: one man. The Cowboys had pass rushes galore. They're able

662
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,400
Speaker 1: to get after the asked in a variety of different ways.

663
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: But they have a unicorn and Michael Parsons. I don't

664
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,920
Speaker 1: know if we can talk about Michael Parsons enough. I

665
00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:07,600
Speaker 1: know I feel like we talked about him every week.

666
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:09,960
Speaker 1: But to dude, is just a difference maker. You're talking

667
00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: about a Defensive Player of the Year candidate, a guy

668
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:14,760
Speaker 1: who won Defensive Rookie of the Year a season ago.

669
00:30:14,960 --> 00:30:17,840
Speaker 1: When people make those comparisons to Lawrence Taylor, Look, it's

670
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,880
Speaker 1: not about the playing style. It's about the disruption and

671
00:30:21,080 --> 00:30:24,480
Speaker 1: what you feel when you're on the field. When number

672
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 1: eleven he dominates. He's the best defensive player on the

673
00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:30,560
Speaker 1: field whenever he steps onto the field, and the thing

674
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: about him, he makes his presence known each and every week.

675
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,960
Speaker 1: The Dallas Cowboys have become a bully on the block

676
00:30:37,160 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: because number eleven is the best defensive player in football.

677
00:30:40,120 --> 00:30:43,840
Speaker 1: Ten or rather, six explosive runs in this game for

678
00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 1: the Cowboys hundred and thirty nine yards. All right, let's

679
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,000
Speaker 1: first talk about Tony Pollard right, he is terrific. Like

680
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: he he gives you that burst, that slash, that explosiveness

681
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 1: that you just don't always see with Zeke and and

682
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:01,240
Speaker 1: even though Zeke is has played pretty darn well this

683
00:31:01,320 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: year and then in tandem, I mean, it's fantastic, but

684
00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,760
Speaker 1: Pollard just has that next gear that allows him to

685
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of shift in between when when he when there

686
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: is some penetration, he's able to sidestep it. He made

687
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:14,960
Speaker 1: a terripic cut right there you saw on Eddie Jackson

688
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 1: in the end. But here's the other thing. On every

689
00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:21,280
Speaker 1: one of those six explosive plays, the Cowboys had two

690
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: sometimes three tight ends in there. So like where's the beef?

691
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: The Cowboys are bringing the beef to the run game.

692
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:31,240
Speaker 1: And Kellen Moore and the way that Mike McCarthy and

693
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 1: those getting that offensive staff have kind of come together

694
00:31:34,120 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: to understand where the bread is buttered for this offense

695
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,240
Speaker 1: and finding ways to accentuate the strengths of their offensive

696
00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,080
Speaker 1: line and to put the ball in the hands of

697
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:46,160
Speaker 1: some guys that can absolutely go. And Tony Pollard and

698
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,680
Speaker 1: then Zeke when he's healthy. Um, they deserve a lot

699
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:51,720
Speaker 1: of credit there. I love seeing those extra uh, those

700
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: extra blockers in there, and those those I mean he

701
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,720
Speaker 1: had Hendershot, Ferguson, Sheltz, all three of them in some ways,

702
00:31:57,760 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 1: and everybody's executing blocks and they were huge, huge holes

703
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 1: for Tony Pollard to run through in this game. Hey word,

704
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: Hendershot go to college again, reet, I forgot. Oh, come on,

705
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: I I did mention the other big ten tight end

706
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:13,920
Speaker 1: at Jake Ferguson, but I thought you put a little

707
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:20,640
Speaker 1: more emphasis on the Hendershot big Hendershot. Yeah, yeah, all right.

708
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:22,959
Speaker 1: I want to get to Justin fields. Bucky loves it.

709
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:24,760
Speaker 1: I want to get to Justin fields because this is

710
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,240
Speaker 1: a good sign. This is a this is a quarterback

711
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,520
Speaker 1: that has made a team competitive and has made an

712
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 1: offense watchable. I didn't know if either one of those

713
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,840
Speaker 1: things were possible before this season started. I can see

714
00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: Justin Fields getting more comfortable. I can see him getting better.

715
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: You saw him running the football in this game. When

716
00:32:40,160 --> 00:32:41,600
Speaker 1: I went back and watched him, A lot of them,

717
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:43,600
Speaker 1: you know, weren't weren't the design runs as many as

718
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 1: we saw last week. As much as his ability to evade,

719
00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:48,719
Speaker 1: get away and create with his legs. I thought he

720
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,160
Speaker 1: was decisive as a runner when he got out of

721
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:52,880
Speaker 1: the pocket. I thought, a nice job there. You see

722
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: the corner route for a touchdown here, two touchdowns, no picks.

723
00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 1: I thought there was a lot of encouraging signs here

724
00:32:58,400 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 1: from Justin Fields as hopefully they're gonna put more around

725
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 1: him in the future. But it got me thinking about

726
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: this quarterback class. I know we're gonna get to Zach

727
00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 1: Wilson and the Jets game against the Patriots coming up

728
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,280
Speaker 1: after the break, but when you just look at where

729
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,920
Speaker 1: they are right now. You know, Buck, I know you

730
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:16,680
Speaker 1: we've talked off air about Trevor Lawrence and and kind

731
00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 1: of where he is and being a little bit disappointed

732
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,760
Speaker 1: in terms of maybe thinking we'd see more growth there.

733
00:33:22,160 --> 00:33:24,320
Speaker 1: You know, Zack Wilson, it was not has not been pretty.

734
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,240
Speaker 1: We'll get to that in a little bit. Mac Jones

735
00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: his regrets and Trey Lance got hurt. Um. I think

736
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: when you look at this list right now, I think

737
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,120
Speaker 1: you have to feel best, Buck. If you look at

738
00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: this list, you probably feel best about Justin Fields and

739
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 1: the trajectory that he's on amongst this whole group. Yeah,

740
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:39,800
Speaker 1: they're couple of things saying that when I look at

741
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 1: the list one. All of those guys went to bad teams,

742
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: and so I think for us, we have to exhibit

743
00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 1: a little more patience when it comes to young quarterbacks.

744
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 1: That's it. Young quarterbacks who come in and a drafted

745
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:53,000
Speaker 1: high the expectations that you're going to eventually succeed and

746
00:33:53,040 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: have progress and play in an elite level, and we're

747
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:57,880
Speaker 1: not seeing the consistency that you want to see from

748
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 1: young players. So whether there's Trevor Lawrence having read zone

749
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 1: eras and struggling with some of the ball placement, Zach

750
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 1: Wilson refusing to exhibit the patience and discipline that you

751
00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,839
Speaker 1: want to see from a quarterback, mag Jonal still kind

752
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,000
Speaker 1: of figuring it out whether to be a game manager

753
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 1: or a gun slinger, and justin Fields evolving in the

754
00:34:14,960 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 1: office that is really devoid of playmakers on the perimeter.

755
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,919
Speaker 1: All of these dudes show promise, but they just need

756
00:34:20,920 --> 00:34:23,440
Speaker 1: to show a little more consistency so we can feel

757
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,960
Speaker 1: great about the quarterback class that we celebrated when they

758
00:34:27,000 --> 00:34:30,160
Speaker 1: were coming into the league. Consistency has not been there.

759
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,719
Speaker 1: We're gonna continue this discussion after this break. We're gonna

760
00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: come back and look at that Patriots Jets game, a

761
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,600
Speaker 1: game that the Jets had every chance to win. Zach

762
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,600
Speaker 1: Wilson simply wasn't good enough. We're gonna dig into the

763
00:34:40,640 --> 00:34:42,319
Speaker 1: tape and tell you what we saw right after this

764
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:50,400
Speaker 1: looking at this Jets Patriots game, guys, I'll get us

765
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,440
Speaker 1: going here on the Jet side of things. This was

766
00:34:52,480 --> 00:34:54,560
Speaker 1: a game and you're watching it. The Jets got off

767
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,960
Speaker 1: to a nice start, Zack Wilson was playing well, there's

768
00:34:56,960 --> 00:34:59,399
Speaker 1: no Breefe Hall, there's no Elijah Vera Tucker, but there

769
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 1: look like they're finally going to slay the dragon here

770
00:35:02,480 --> 00:35:04,080
Speaker 1: of what they've had to deal with with the New

771
00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,120
Speaker 1: England Patriots who have dominated this series. And then it

772
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: just felt like Bill Belichick was conservative. He was just

773
00:35:10,200 --> 00:35:13,399
Speaker 1: waiting for the Jets quarterback inclosion to take place, which

774
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:17,120
Speaker 1: it usually does, and that's exactly what happened. Happened right

775
00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: before the half and Zack Wilson just poor decisions, kind

776
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: of careless with the football, ends up with three interceptions

777
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: in this game. And when you break them down, you've

778
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:29,040
Speaker 1: got a a fade away from the pocket that sails

779
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: over the back that ends up being a pick. You've

780
00:35:31,560 --> 00:35:33,399
Speaker 1: got one. He's attempting to throw away which he doesn't

781
00:35:33,440 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: get far enough out of bounds, which gets picked and

782
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:38,840
Speaker 1: then just a horrible launch into quadruple coverage late in

783
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 1: the fourth quarter that gets picked off. It was just

784
00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:45,759
Speaker 1: lapses and judgment. Very frustrating to see as you're hoping

785
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:49,080
Speaker 1: the quarterback is gonna take this next step going forward. Um,

786
00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:51,959
Speaker 1: when when I look at him, guys, and I guess

787
00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,319
Speaker 1: I'll go to you on this book when I when

788
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:57,000
Speaker 1: I break it down, I see somebody who's spending eight

789
00:35:57,400 --> 00:36:00,759
Speaker 1: of his time trying to create at his time, trying

790
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: to distribute and to be a upper echelon consistent quarterback

791
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,160
Speaker 1: in this league that has to flip. He's got to

792
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: be able to get his foot in the ground, making decision,

793
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,319
Speaker 1: get the ball gone. There's a lot of pressure. He

794
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: got out of some sacks and and you love that ability.

795
00:36:14,239 --> 00:36:16,360
Speaker 1: But he's gonna have to start playing within the structure

796
00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,680
Speaker 1: and making plays within the structure or they're gonna happen.

797
00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:21,279
Speaker 1: This type of game is gonna keep happening for him. Yeah.

798
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:23,720
Speaker 1: I think what's more disturbing is listening to Zach Wilson

799
00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 1: after the game talk about, Uh, it's frustrating when I

800
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,480
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball the way or I'm not

801
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 1: able to like make a play or push it down

802
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: the field and those things. And that's part of playing quarterback,

803
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: and your job as the quarterback is to look at

804
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:39,080
Speaker 1: the defense, take where the defense is given you, and

805
00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,759
Speaker 1: move the ball consistently down the field by any means necessary.

806
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:45,399
Speaker 1: And so when I hear Zach Wilson just talk about

807
00:36:45,400 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: I'm gonna play my game and I just don't like

808
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:50,600
Speaker 1: throwing the ball away and doing these things, I don't

809
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,000
Speaker 1: know if he's wired the right way to be a

810
00:36:53,080 --> 00:36:56,440
Speaker 1: high end quarterback. Meaning DJ you talked about how it

811
00:36:56,440 --> 00:36:58,120
Speaker 1: has to flip where he has to be eight percent

812
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:01,880
Speaker 1: of the distributor of a creator. Yes, and if he

813
00:37:02,000 --> 00:37:05,200
Speaker 1: is unable to paint between the lines, they're going to

814
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:08,120
Speaker 1: have to find somebody else. Because this Jets team is

815
00:37:08,160 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 1: about ready to take off and be a team that

816
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: really competes at a high level in the a f C.

817
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,759
Speaker 1: But their quarterback is holding him back. Zach Wilson has

818
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,959
Speaker 1: to grow up, and he has to grow up in her.

819
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 1: We didn't get any other receivers requesting a trade this week, yet,

820
00:37:22,280 --> 00:37:24,600
Speaker 1: did we. It's still just it was still just bends

821
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:29,640
Speaker 1: and more. I just wanted to make sure, um, by

822
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,480
Speaker 1: the way, the Patriots could use some of those guys,

823
00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,080
Speaker 1: the guys that can make plays with the football if

824
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: in fact Mac Jones is having to get the ball

825
00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: out of his hands as quick as he was in

826
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,879
Speaker 1: this game. Now, look, let's understand here, Jets are really

827
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: good front, right, they can get after the pastor John

828
00:37:43,960 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 1: Franklin Myers was rolling when and Williams got himself a

829
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: sack in this game. Six sacks of Mac Jones, and

830
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,080
Speaker 1: I think you know, Nick Fulk bails him out in

831
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: this game with five field goals, it was five for five.

832
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,560
Speaker 1: They end up winning, uh this thing, uh, you know,

833
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:59,600
Speaker 1: and and getting it done in the end. But um,

834
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:02,160
Speaker 1: it did mask the fact that there are still some

835
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:05,160
Speaker 1: major issues up front for the New England Patriots. The

836
00:38:05,200 --> 00:38:08,560
Speaker 1: right packle spot is a big problem. Whether it's Marcus

837
00:38:08,600 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 1: Cannon or Isaiah Win. I mean, each one of them

838
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:13,359
Speaker 1: is getting put back into the quarterbacks lap, not even

839
00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,400
Speaker 1: given Mac shot on a couple of those. Now, he

840
00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:18,120
Speaker 1: did hold the ball a couple of times, which speaks,

841
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: you know, a little bit too long, which speaks to

842
00:38:20,080 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 1: the fact that all right, like how do you feel

843
00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:25,760
Speaker 1: ultimately about this Patriots wide receiver corps about these targets.

844
00:38:26,360 --> 00:38:28,720
Speaker 1: Was really trying to get one deep to Taekwon Thornton,

845
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:31,320
Speaker 1: but had double coverage over the top, wasn't gonna be

846
00:38:31,360 --> 00:38:33,760
Speaker 1: able to go to him. Meanwhile, he had Kendrick Bourne

847
00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:35,440
Speaker 1: on a you know, on an out route on the

848
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:37,680
Speaker 1: other side of the field, and because the pressure just

849
00:38:37,719 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 1: wasn't able to get that far in his progression. Um,

850
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 1: So look at everybody wears a little bit here, But

851
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:45,680
Speaker 1: if you've got to get the body of your hands

852
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:47,799
Speaker 1: as quickly as Mac has to do. With the way

853
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: that this offensive line is performed by the way cold

854
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:54,920
Speaker 1: strange another tough day in past protection as well. Left guard. Um,

855
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,279
Speaker 1: you gotta have guys that can make some dudes miss

856
00:38:58,360 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 1: and make plays and be explosive with the ball. Sixteen

857
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,359
Speaker 1: of nineteen. Mac Jones was on quick throws in this game,

858
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: yet they only went for eighty four yards. So like

859
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 1: that is part of the tandem problem, it seems for

860
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,920
Speaker 1: the Patriot offense, and their best plays continue to be

861
00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: just handed it off to roumandr Stevenson and Damian Heart

862
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,759
Speaker 1: And I'll just add this thing as we button it up.

863
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: Imagine how different we're talking today. If John Franklin Myers

864
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Speaker 1: doesn't have the late hit on what what would have

865
00:39:26,280 --> 00:39:28,680
Speaker 1: been an eighty six yard pick six, it would have

866
00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:31,759
Speaker 1: been seventeen to three Jets. And you'd think at that

867
00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,320
Speaker 1: point in time, they can run the football, chew the clock,

868
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,640
Speaker 1: let that defensive front continue to dominate and changes that

869
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 1: whole perspective of this whole game. We're not talking about

870
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,839
Speaker 1: Zach Wilson because they don't have to rely on him,

871
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,600
Speaker 1: uh in this football game. And we're talking about Mac Jones.

872
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:46,640
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, this guy is following as Bailey's appy

873
00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: gonna be starting one last and judgment judgment there by

874
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: John Franklin Myers kind of change the narrative coming out

875
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,759
Speaker 1: of that football game. There were some other young quarterbacks

876
00:39:54,840 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: that got action. I want to hit on these kind

877
00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:59,959
Speaker 1: of rapid fire here. Let's start with Malik Willis. Guys,

878
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't know that I've seen somebody have to do

879
00:40:01,480 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 1: less to win a football game. That's a great way

880
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: to start your career if you because just just give

881
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,600
Speaker 1: the ball. Derrick Henry, you see that ten throws fifty

882
00:40:08,640 --> 00:40:11,120
Speaker 1: five yards had a bad interception. You know, it was

883
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: you know, some screens didn't really do a whole lot

884
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:15,560
Speaker 1: throwing the football, didn't have to do much running the

885
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:18,080
Speaker 1: football either. Uh. It's nice to come under the lake

886
00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 1: and say, you know, I'm just gonna turn around, hand

887
00:40:19,480 --> 00:40:20,920
Speaker 1: the ball off and uh and we'll get a win

888
00:40:21,040 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: over the Houston Texans. So uh, nice job there by

889
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:27,919
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry easing his young quarterback into the NFL. Buck

890
00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:30,160
Speaker 1: What did you see from from p J Walker there

891
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,719
Speaker 1: in Carolina? P J Walker is really settling in as

892
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 1: the Panthers starting quarterback Steve Wilks and said he's gonna

893
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:38,760
Speaker 1: start next week when they take the field. And watching

894
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,799
Speaker 1: PJA walker three hundred yard game against Atlanta Falcons, and

895
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,120
Speaker 1: it's the confidence and the playmaking ability, did it just

896
00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,719
Speaker 1: plays that has really really been impressive. And so when

897
00:40:46,760 --> 00:40:49,040
Speaker 1: you look at this bomb, this hail Mary twelve seconds

898
00:40:49,120 --> 00:40:50,800
Speaker 1: if he just throws it over the top of the defense,

899
00:40:51,000 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: and it's terrific. But it also was the poise that

900
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,040
Speaker 1: he displayed. By all accounts, the Carolina Panthers should have

901
00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,880
Speaker 1: won this game because PJA Walking delivered some dimes and

902
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 1: timely situations. I think Steve Wilkes has found a quarterback

903
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 1: with this team to at least be competitive with. I

904
00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: don't know if p J. Walker is a long term solution,

905
00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:10,880
Speaker 1: but I do know this team competes when p J.

906
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: Walker is under center. Yeah, his team's done a nice

907
00:41:13,200 --> 00:41:15,160
Speaker 1: job since the coaching change. They really have been very

908
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 1: competitive there in Carolina. Sam Ellinger, Uh did a really

909
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: nice job. I thought the points don't show it, the

910
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: stats don't blow you away. But when you watch the tape,

911
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,560
Speaker 1: I thought he made some nice throws. I thought he

912
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:28,839
Speaker 1: had a beautiful couple of deep balls that were just beautiful. Uh.

913
00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,600
Speaker 1: The athleticism to get away from some pressure, I thought

914
00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:33,080
Speaker 1: that was one of the reasons they went to him

915
00:41:33,120 --> 00:41:34,640
Speaker 1: to be able to cover up some of their issues

916
00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 1: up front. But thought he had a good job there.

917
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:39,640
Speaker 1: They would to rotate or move the pocket, um some

918
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: of those things he's gonna bring to this offense. Now,

919
00:41:41,520 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 1: the points weren't there, the yards aren't gonna blow you away.

920
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: There was a big drop late in this ballgame by

921
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,240
Speaker 1: Michael Pittman. But overall, for his kind of first start

922
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,920
Speaker 1: against a good quality defense, the way that the Commanders

923
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 1: have been playing lately, I thought you had to be

924
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:56,359
Speaker 1: pleased with what you saw from Sam Ellinger. Yeah, didn't

925
00:41:56,360 --> 00:41:58,160
Speaker 1: turn it over through the air. Obviously had the fumble

926
00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 1: down in the red zone that you know you love

927
00:42:00,239 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: to have back there, but but still yards. I mean

928
00:42:03,800 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 1: like again, this to me goes back to to your

929
00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: point about the Tennessee Titans and what they did for

930
00:42:09,600 --> 00:42:11,520
Speaker 1: Malik Willis and being able to hand it off to

931
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: the Derrick Henry. I still think like that's that's what

932
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: this Colt's offense should look like. With Jonathan Taylor, who

933
00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:20,440
Speaker 1: has now been held under a hundred scrimmage yards in

934
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:23,279
Speaker 1: his last five games, and in all of last year

935
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:25,839
Speaker 1: he had only three of those types games, at least

936
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Speaker 1: they give They give it to him sixteen times seventy

937
00:42:27,680 --> 00:42:29,320
Speaker 1: six yards, a little bit better than they did a

938
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:32,520
Speaker 1: week ago. I still think they can support him more. Um.

939
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:34,520
Speaker 1: And then just to follow up on your point on

940
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:38,560
Speaker 1: the Titans real quick, um, DJ, find you a coach

941
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,400
Speaker 1: that loves you as much as Mike Rabel loves Ben Jones.

942
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:45,279
Speaker 1: The starting center for the Tennessee Titans quite adopted in

943
00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 1: the tunnel. I don't know if you guys saw that interaction,

944
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: it was beautiful, Uh, Mike, I mean Mike Rabel emotional

945
00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:54,440
Speaker 1: talking about the effort that that offensive line gives to

946
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:57,520
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry and essentially to Malik Willis. That's what the

947
00:42:57,560 --> 00:42:59,560
Speaker 1: colt to need more of. Right what happened to this

948
00:42:59,600 --> 00:43:01,520
Speaker 1: offense of line was one of the most dominant units

949
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 1: in football just a couple of years ago now just

950
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:06,719
Speaker 1: not getting the type of consistent push needed to help

951
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,480
Speaker 1: Jonathan Taylor and ultimately Sam Ellie. No doubt. Well, in

952
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,240
Speaker 1: that same game, Taylor Heineke, I'm still going to classify

953
00:43:13,280 --> 00:43:15,359
Speaker 1: him as a young quarterback. Buck. We've seen him play,

954
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,759
Speaker 1: we se him play in the playoffs, but uh, this

955
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,239
Speaker 1: was an impressive game from him. What you see, oh man,

956
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:21,799
Speaker 1: he's just a really solid guy. And you think about

957
00:43:21,800 --> 00:43:23,520
Speaker 1: the last two games that the Commanders of had they've

958
00:43:23,560 --> 00:43:26,480
Speaker 1: won with Tyler Heineke on the center, and it's not pretty.

959
00:43:26,520 --> 00:43:29,640
Speaker 1: But there's something too. I guess the energy that a

960
00:43:30,239 --> 00:43:33,600
Speaker 1: quarterback radiates this team responds to Tyler Heineke. Maybe it

961
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: goes back to his ability to play the Tampa By

962
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:38,800
Speaker 1: Buccaneers tight in the postseason when he had the opportunity

963
00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: to start against Tom Brady. But there's something about him,

964
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: maybe a little X factor that his team feeds off of,

965
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 1: but made a big play to scary Terry ma lawing

966
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,480
Speaker 1: down the stretch. He had almost are under yards passing.

967
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,239
Speaker 1: And as the Commanders have kind of reeled off a

968
00:43:53,280 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 1: couple of wins, this is gonna be an interesting decision

969
00:43:56,360 --> 00:43:59,040
Speaker 1: when Carson Wentz comes back. What is Robber Verry going

970
00:43:59,080 --> 00:44:01,920
Speaker 1: to do because this team Keith rolling Haney. Do you

971
00:44:01,960 --> 00:44:03,840
Speaker 1: break that up and put Carson Wentz back in or

972
00:44:03,880 --> 00:44:05,560
Speaker 1: do you stick with the hot hand? Well it's a

973
00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:09,480
Speaker 1: good question. By the way. Terry McLaren uh Indianapolis homegrown

974
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:13,360
Speaker 1: right makes the play to win the game against the

975
00:44:13,400 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: Indianapolis Colt to let everybody in that stadium know it afterwards,

976
00:44:17,160 --> 00:44:19,480
Speaker 1: which I love. But to your point about Heineke, it

977
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,200
Speaker 1: is an interesting decision now for Ron Rivera and ultimately

978
00:44:22,719 --> 00:44:26,440
Speaker 1: uh for Martin Mayhew and for the Washington Commander's personnel

979
00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 1: off and off the office right because Heineke is competitive

980
00:44:30,480 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 1: as heck. Right. I mean, like we get that, like

981
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,719
Speaker 1: we see that each time he's in there, and it

982
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: does feel like the team rallies around him. Um, but

983
00:44:38,520 --> 00:44:41,920
Speaker 1: I think we also know that, like the Commanders after

984
00:44:41,960 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 1: watching him, knew that they had to go and find

985
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: someone else, and they made the choice to make that

986
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:49,400
Speaker 1: person Carson Wentz and while that hadn't worked out as

987
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:52,799
Speaker 1: much when he was healthy. UM, I think even if

988
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:55,240
Speaker 1: Heineke remains the starter for the end of the season,

989
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 1: what are you left with at the end of the year, Like,

990
00:44:57,200 --> 00:44:59,960
Speaker 1: are you really going to set sail with Heineke as

991
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,680
Speaker 1: your starter for the next season. It almost feels a

992
00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: little bit like the Ryan Fitzpatrick syndrome, Like he comes

993
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: in and he can give you a spark, and he

994
00:45:07,080 --> 00:45:09,120
Speaker 1: can win some games for you, but ultimately, do you

995
00:45:09,200 --> 00:45:13,799
Speaker 1: want uh to pin the future of your franchise on

996
00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: this player? And so it does feel to me like

997
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:20,360
Speaker 1: despite the lift that Heineke has given them DJ that

998
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: Washington is going to be in quarterback no man's land

999
00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: once again next year. I think it's also interesting when

1000
00:45:25,840 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: you look at the organizational construct for these teams that

1001
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:30,600
Speaker 1: have quarterback decisions. When the head coach has a lot

1002
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 1: of juice, you guys know, the head coach doesn't care

1003
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 1: about five years from now. Head coach doesn't care about

1004
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,160
Speaker 1: the future. Head coach, here's about can I win enough

1005
00:45:37,200 --> 00:45:39,799
Speaker 1: games next year to keep my job? Um? And that

1006
00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,359
Speaker 1: might be to the benefit of Taylor Heineke, because he's

1007
00:45:42,360 --> 00:45:44,920
Speaker 1: shown he can keep them competitive uh and has given them,

1008
00:45:44,920 --> 00:45:46,680
Speaker 1: like you said, a little bit of a spark there.

1009
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Speaker 1: This has been a fun show. We covered a lot

1010
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,399
Speaker 1: of ground. Hope you guys have enjoyed it. We're gonna

1011
00:45:51,480 --> 00:45:54,239
Speaker 1: keep things rolling on. Move the sticks. A couple more

1012
00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,560
Speaker 1: pods coming your your way this week, and digg into

1013
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:59,480
Speaker 1: some college players some draft talk as we move along.

1014
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Speaker 1: Appreciate you guys listening to move a six. You want

1015
00:46:03,000 --> 00:46:08,680
Speaker 1: to you want people to want you want to, you

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Speaker 1: want to tell you want people WoT Yeah,