1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: When you're ready to ride Metro, we want you to 2 00:00:03,960 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: know we're ready for you. Here are just a few 3 00:00:06,559 --> 00:00:08,399 Speaker 1: of the people at Metro to tell you how we're 4 00:00:08,440 --> 00:00:11,320 Speaker 1: doing our part to keep writers safe. We're cleaning like 5 00:00:11,400 --> 00:00:15,680 Speaker 1: Neville before. You have found halfs out of suns of 6 00:00:15,720 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: statist no masks, no Metro need one. We have a 7 00:00:20,840 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 1: few extras at Metro. We're doing our part to keep 8 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: the DC area moving. Find out more at Well not 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: a dot com slash doing our part. We wanted to 10 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:34,040 Speaker 1: have a chat, at least briefly with Salina Zito of 11 00:00:34,120 --> 00:00:37,360 Speaker 1: the National. She's a national political reporter for the Washington 12 00:00:37,440 --> 00:00:42,159 Speaker 1: Examiner magazine who took on a project recently that we 13 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:46,879 Speaker 1: found very compelling. Indeed, uh selena Is was a Pittsburgh 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: based calumnist and reporter, also a calumnist at the New 15 00:00:49,159 --> 00:00:52,239 Speaker 1: York Post. Helena, how are you good morning? How are you? 16 00:00:52,560 --> 00:00:55,800 Speaker 1: We're good. We we found the summation of your your 17 00:00:55,840 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 1: recent project so interesting. The five people you met talked 18 00:01:01,200 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: to got to know who are all called the duty 19 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 1: by nine eleven. Um, it had to be fascinating project 20 00:01:06,800 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: talking all of them, absolutely so. As a journalist, UM, 21 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 1: the way I approach reporting is that I don't fly, 22 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 1: and they don't take interstates. So the people that I 23 00:01:19,800 --> 00:01:23,800 Speaker 1: often talked to, UM I only take back roads. You 24 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:25,640 Speaker 1: and I could hang out. That's my way to travel 25 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 1: to That's the only way you can see the country. 26 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 1: That's right. And you also can understand the changes that 27 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: are going on in the country and have a real 28 00:01:33,800 --> 00:01:38,000 Speaker 1: bird's eye view of who we really are as opposed 29 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:40,760 Speaker 1: to sometimes how the national news tends to sort of, 30 00:01:41,240 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: you know, narrow us down to this certain ten percent 31 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:48,600 Speaker 1: and so so, in talking with veterans over the years, 32 00:01:49,120 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: UM I thought it was really important, UH to go 33 00:01:53,280 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 1: back and talk and and listen to their viewpoints of 34 00:01:58,160 --> 00:02:03,560 Speaker 1: how their lives have changed since that moment um on 35 00:02:03,640 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: September eleven, when all of them UH felt this compelling 36 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: Paul's duty UH and and and two of them were 37 00:02:12,800 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 1: already in the military and in various degrees. UH Senator 38 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: Jonny Ernst was already in the UH in in the 39 00:02:20,840 --> 00:02:27,320 Speaker 1: re reserves, and General Lloyd Austin was already, UM, you know, 40 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:30,919 Speaker 1: twenty eight years into his career in the military. But 41 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:37,120 Speaker 1: Taylor Cleveland, UM, UH, Victor Lewis, and Sean Parnell are 42 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:41,520 Speaker 1: are three men that that had had not ever served 43 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,959 Speaker 1: and and so one of those not true Victor's Lewis 44 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: did serve UM. But but you know, they were all 45 00:02:48,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: just felt they had to be there and protect all 46 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 1: of us. And and it's I think it's fascinating. And 47 00:02:56,919 --> 00:03:00,120 Speaker 1: I don't think we think about this enough, but we 48 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:04,600 Speaker 1: one half of one of people in this country are 49 00:03:04,639 --> 00:03:09,560 Speaker 1: currently serving UM in the military. And UM, these are 50 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,040 Speaker 1: this elite group of people. UM are the ones that 51 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: protect us literally from the bad guys. That's an incredible statistic, 52 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: by the way. So how are they how are they 53 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,640 Speaker 1: feeling now all these years later? H Well, all of 54 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: them would uh join tomorrow if if their country called them, 55 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: they would they would they would go and just um 56 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: just jump right in. Taylor Cleveland, I think is fascinating 57 00:03:38,600 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 1: because he was he comes from a long line of 58 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:47,200 Speaker 1: military people, but he was unable to enlist in right 59 00:03:47,240 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: out of high school because he blew his knee out 60 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:55,200 Speaker 1: playing football. Uh. Interestingly enough, by night eleven, uh he 61 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: decided he was going to join UM, much to the 62 00:03:59,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 1: chagrin of his wife. And I think chagrin is probably 63 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 1: a nice word. Uh. She she was really mad and 64 00:04:07,240 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: he she told him now she was four weeks from 65 00:04:10,000 --> 00:04:12,480 Speaker 1: having their first child, and he went and did it 66 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: anyway behind her back. He didn't think they would take 67 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 1: him uh a roll and behold. Before he even got home, 68 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:25,040 Speaker 1: the military had called and said congratulations and you um, 69 00:04:25,080 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: you have now officially joined uh the Navy. And his 70 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 1: wife was the one that got the call on the 71 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:36,120 Speaker 1: family voice mail. So um, that was an interesting time 72 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:38,800 Speaker 1: in his marriage. Well and having read the piece, and 73 00:04:38,880 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: it's absolutely terrific. There are people who became United States senators. 74 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:45,520 Speaker 1: There are there was one guy at least who did 75 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:50,799 Speaker 1: jail time. There was some pretty significant PTSD. UM. Just yeah, 76 00:04:50,960 --> 00:04:56,800 Speaker 1: a whole lot of different takeaways. Yeah, Victor Lewis um 77 00:04:56,279 --> 00:05:01,200 Speaker 1: a really bright guy um of and felt a cult 78 00:05:01,360 --> 00:05:05,279 Speaker 1: duty since he was seventeen years old and joined again 79 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 1: against his mother's wishes. Uh. She really wanted him to 80 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 1: go to college. Very very bright young man. Um. But 81 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:15,320 Speaker 1: you know, he was also one of nine children um 82 00:05:15,440 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 1: and living in a poor part of Cleveland, uh and 83 00:05:18,480 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 1: and African American, and he really just understood that his 84 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: mother would not be able to afford it. So he 85 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,839 Speaker 1: saw the military as not only just a way to 86 00:05:26,920 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 1: get a college education, but who also started to his country. 87 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 1: He found out that he loved military service so much 88 00:05:35,920 --> 00:05:38,040 Speaker 1: so that he kept three and listening. I think he 89 00:05:38,160 --> 00:05:43,000 Speaker 1: realisted five times. Uh. He was sent to UM Afghanistan 90 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: and Uh and he it was so funny. I said 91 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:50,440 Speaker 1: to him, whereever shot at because now and Tod how 92 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:54,880 Speaker 1: about mortar? Nope? And Taylor Cleveland. His best friend said, dude, 93 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 1: you were hit by a rocket? UM? So Uh he was. 94 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:05,520 Speaker 1: He he had his legs shattered by rocket fire. UM 95 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:11,039 Speaker 1: was immediately shipped back first to UM uh military or 96 00:06:11,160 --> 00:06:16,320 Speaker 1: medical operation in the Afghanistan, then to Germany, and then 97 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:21,440 Speaker 1: back ultimately to the United States and UM medically discharged. 98 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 1: And that's where his PTSD came in, not because he 99 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:28,920 Speaker 1: was hit, but because he felt he couldn't go back 100 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:31,080 Speaker 1: and take care of his guys. He says in the story, 101 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,520 Speaker 1: those are my men. You know, I nobody could take 102 00:06:34,520 --> 00:06:36,360 Speaker 1: care of them in the way that I took care 103 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:39,800 Speaker 1: of them. And and that began a long discent in 104 00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:43,839 Speaker 1: his life. UM. And ultimately he ended up serving thirty 105 00:06:44,480 --> 00:06:49,039 Speaker 1: UM months in jail for a stabbing UH incident. But 106 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:52,600 Speaker 1: it's it's well worth reading. UM. How how he's doing 107 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:55,839 Speaker 1: it today well and Selenastos online, she writes for The 108 00:06:55,839 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 1: Washington Examiner magazine, the part I'm really enjoyed about the 109 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: pieces it does and pick a single narrative like that 110 00:07:01,640 --> 00:07:05,640 Speaker 1: gentleman's uh, you know, unfortunate post military run there although 111 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 1: he's turned his life around in a wonderful way. It 112 00:07:08,000 --> 00:07:11,160 Speaker 1: just looks at the variety of experiences and reactions and 113 00:07:11,200 --> 00:07:13,040 Speaker 1: the rest of it. I think it's it's really good 114 00:07:13,040 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: and really interesting. Selena Zito will have a link so 115 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:19,040 Speaker 1: people can find their way to the peace. It's terrific. 116 00:07:19,480 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: Keep driving the back roads and we'd love to talk 117 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: again sometime. That would be wonderful. Thank you so much. Oh, 118 00:07:25,680 --> 00:07:28,760 Speaker 1: it's our pleasure. Thanks. That's set that one half of 119 00:07:28,800 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 1: one percent of people serving the military is uh is 120 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: pretty troubling. Yeah, and uh so I saw an author 121 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:35,640 Speaker 1: on book TV to day. I'm trying to remember the 122 00:07:35,640 --> 00:07:37,960 Speaker 1: reason he was speaking, but anyway, his point he made 123 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: he had just won some award for a conservative book award. Um. 124 00:07:42,560 --> 00:07:45,480 Speaker 1: He was making a point about the cohesion that we've 125 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 1: got in this country right now and the sense of 126 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: community and the sense of what was the book about 127 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: nationalism and how we could use a little more nationalism, 128 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:54,960 Speaker 1: a little more you know, a feeling like we're all 129 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 1: part of something. And how in Israel, uh, you know, 130 00:07:58,360 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 1: they have mandatory service. Everybody goes in the military. But 131 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,160 Speaker 1: he said, everybody in Israel knows you can get out 132 00:08:03,160 --> 00:08:04,720 Speaker 1: of it. There are a lot of different there's so 133 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:06,240 Speaker 1: many ways to get out of it. Everybody can get 134 00:08:06,240 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: out of it, but almost nobody does. In the United States, 135 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:11,560 Speaker 1: you've got one half of one percent of people serving 136 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,280 Speaker 1: at all, and and plenty of people who think that 137 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,600 Speaker 1: those people are stupid for doing it right. And that's 138 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,560 Speaker 1: a problem. Diversity is not our greatest strength. Unity is 139 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 1: our greatest strength, and it's soreally lacking too much. He plurabius. 140 00:08:26,960 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: Not enough union, Yeah, Joonah Goldberg says I and and 141 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:33,760 Speaker 1: well said Jonah i Ah, that's one of a couple 142 00:08:33,760 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 1: of mod Darren attitudes that really bother me. I mean, 143 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: if we can have unity with diversity, then we're unbeatable, 144 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: which is what we've always had. But those who claim 145 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 1: to be for diversity or somehow anti unity, which is 146 00:08:46,559 --> 00:08:48,640 Speaker 1: it's like to be pro woman, you have to be 147 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:51,920 Speaker 1: anti man. That's the attitude of the idiot and the 148 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,520 Speaker 1: person who's just filled with anger and looking for somewhere 149 00:08:54,559 --> 00:08:57,120 Speaker 1: to direct it. It's not a philosophy that makes any 150 00:08:57,160 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: sense whatsoever. You're ready to ride Metro, we want you 151 00:09:02,160 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 1: to know we're ready for you. Here are just a 152 00:09:04,640 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 1: few of the people at Metro to tell you how 153 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:09,280 Speaker 1: we're doing our part to keep riders safe. We clean 154 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:13,079 Speaker 1: you like never before. Hospital a great clean you've found, 155 00:09:13,120 --> 00:09:17,720 Speaker 1: hands down, the sound of statist. No masks, no Metro 156 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 1: need one. We have a few extras at Metro. We're 157 00:09:21,080 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: doing our part to keep the DC area moving. Find 158 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:26,199 Speaker 1: out more at will mata dot com slash doing our 159 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:26,520 Speaker 1: part