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Speaker 1: What are we even doing? What are we even doing? Hey?

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Speaker 1: What's going on? Is Kyle maclachlin, what are we even doing?

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Speaker 1: We're gonna find out, Well, we're gonna try to find out.

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Speaker 1: This is a show where we talk with your favorite actors, musicians,

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Speaker 1: creatives of all types, discussing process, creative process, how it

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Speaker 1: all began, and we're gonna get weird together, but in

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Speaker 1: a very good way. Today, special guest Teffy is here.

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Speaker 2: Oh.

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Speaker 1: I already said your name, and I was supposed to

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Speaker 1: produce you first as a genius storyteller, pop culture professor.

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Speaker 1: I love the alliteration that was a pop culture professor

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Speaker 1: and the Internet's big.

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Speaker 2: Sister can I like, I like older cousin.

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Speaker 1: Older cousin, and then that's older cousin because I am.

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Speaker 3: Like a big sister to two other people and they've

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Speaker 3: never asked me for advice.

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Speaker 1: Not one. We're gonna change that. We're gonna change Thatfie

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Speaker 1: is in the house, ladies and gentlemen, Yeah, thank you

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Speaker 1: so much for being here. Of course, all things pop culture.

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Speaker 2: I love all things pop culture. I come from a

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Speaker 2: long line of very nosy women and it's and it's

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Speaker 2: very much paid off.

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Speaker 1: I can see that you're everywhere.

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Speaker 3: Thank god, there's no plan B. This has to work. Actually,

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Speaker 3: when you said professor, I'm like, that's crazy. I dropped

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Speaker 3: out of college five times.

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Speaker 1: Five times. I only dropped out of college once.

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Speaker 2: You did.

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Speaker 1: Yes, so I did, but five times. Yeah, I know,

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Speaker 1: I know. I've got a long way to go.

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Speaker 3: I love an icebreaker, I love an orientation. I'm like,

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Speaker 3: I miss being in the car being like, okay, just

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Speaker 3: in case, what's one fun fact?

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Speaker 2: Ah, Like okay, what's crazy? What's crazy? I'm like, you

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Speaker 2: have a moment like, no stupid.

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Speaker 3: They can see that that's too easy.

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Speaker 1: Too easy. Oh my god. Well, I want to ask

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Speaker 1: you when to start by saying, so you you do

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Speaker 1: so many different things. You're little, and you're and you're

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Speaker 1: thank you. In fact, where was the beginning? What started? What?

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Speaker 1: What triggered? What was your kind of core thing like

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Speaker 1: oh I'm good at this, or I want to do this.

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Speaker 2: Or so you agree I'm good at this, you are

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Speaker 2: good at this. So I was born on a Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I love that.

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Speaker 2: So was I I was like twenty second nineteen ninety.

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Speaker 1: Wow, yeah, long way back. Black and white, Black and

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Speaker 3: I've always very much known that I don't have like

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Speaker 3: a skill set besides talking.

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Speaker 2: I know.

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Speaker 3: I think as a child, I knew I could make

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Speaker 3: people feel comfortable, okay, and pop culture was a great

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Speaker 3: tool for that. Yes, I think if people don't want

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Speaker 3: to talk about themselves, we could easily talk about like

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Speaker 3: spice World. Now, I really feel like as a child

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Speaker 3: I was going to grow up to wear like cardigans

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Speaker 1: No, it's not too late, And if you wore them,

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Speaker 1: they would be they would go immediately into fashion. Yes,

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Speaker 1: thank you set the trend.

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Speaker 2: I have that power and I know it, and I'm

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Speaker 1: Waiting for cardigan. Members of the world are like, please

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Speaker 3: I'm like, tell j Curll call them back. But I

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Speaker 3: Nicks like the ups and the downs, and like she

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Speaker 2: I've heard that rumors are so nasty. Yes, but I

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Speaker 3: But also the pop culture that I was absorbing was

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Speaker 2: You know. So when I'm talking to people and I'm like, oh, well,

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Speaker 2: People have asked me, like, who is Elizabeth Taylor, I'm like,

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Speaker 1: Because on Register Taylor early.

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Speaker 2: Of course we love Elizabeth Taylor and Elizabeth Taylor.

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Speaker 1: Was in the movie with Elizabeth Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I never thought about saying it like that.

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Speaker 2: At the time of her death, she was seeing Colin

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Speaker 1: He said it was see what we're learning here. This

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Speaker 1: Oh, because she's magic. He's with Taylor's magic. I don't

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Speaker 1: like you like people? Do you have Like do you

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Speaker 3: The majority of people in my life are like people

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Speaker 3: But I do have friends that when I was little,

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Speaker 2: I thought that was my destiny.

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Speaker 1: If they called you, if they haven't called you. We're gonna,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna, we're going to figure this out. They have

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Speaker 1: I think just call everybody away. I'm sorry, you would

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Speaker 2: And I wouldn't be like a stir? Can you uney

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Speaker 3: Again, there is that child inside of me that, like,

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Speaker 3: Be successful, you know what I mean, Like I'm showing

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Speaker 2: You know what I mean, Like I can't have my

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Speaker 1: We're going to cut that out. Yeah, I agree with you.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you. I think I mean I you

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Speaker 1: And the crazy thing is getting into social and working

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Speaker 1: But it's kind of taken away that that thing is.

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Speaker 1: They're like, no, no, no, authentic is better. Real mistakes

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of course you also started finding success in a

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Speaker 3: But it really going to auditions is athleticism.

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Speaker 2: That is crazy.

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Speaker 1: It's idiots. Just like it's like an Olympic event or something. Yes,

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Speaker 3: It, and you have to also like have this like shield.

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Speaker 3: It's like almost you have to adopt a delusion that

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so I had one thing interesting that was told me.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Tom Hank it was credited to somebody. Say,

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Speaker 1: when you go to an audition, just think of it

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Speaker 1: as a one night only performance. Yes, I love to

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Speaker 1: Here's my performance. Thank you very much. It was a

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Speaker 1: then they call you back and say, hey, what I

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Speaker 1: another night of performance.

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Speaker 2: That's a beautiful thing.

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Speaker 1: You just think of it like that, and then you're like,

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Speaker 3: I do remember being very nervous that I was annoying people.

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Speaker 3: Like I knew my teachers didn't like me because I

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Speaker 3: I tell myself place exactly, it's my safe. When I meditate,

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Speaker 2: The pool that's my see.

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Speaker 1: Well that's a great. Yeah, that's a great so safe. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 3: So every time I enter a room, I think everybody

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Speaker 2: Like I think about it that way.

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Speaker 1: That's very proactive.

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Speaker 3: Yes, delusion, you have to like adopt it. People ask

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Speaker 3: like being like a content creator. Yeah, you do have

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Speaker 3: you do doesn't get views or listens or streams, you're

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Speaker 1: A high end adoptimism. I love that.

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Speaker 2: Am I going to be? Okay?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so. I see that in myself too.

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Speaker 1: I mean, were you a theater boy? I was, oddly yes,

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Speaker 2: You were so horny, ostracized trauma kids are so horny.

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Speaker 1: No that in college they were yeah, okay, yeah, okay, okay.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't believe how many people haven't seen Virges over

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Speaker 3: But pop culture is a language where I remember watching

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Speaker 2: What could I possibly be? You know? But I remember

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Speaker 3: And we all love movies, we all love shows, we

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Speaker 3: It's so painful to hear, like and pop culture happens

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Speaker 1: I like Ethan's funny enough, and I did that. I

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Speaker 2: He does. Absolutely, he does that already pisses me off.

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Speaker 1: So you're you're on the red carpet, okay, so and

443
00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:13,160
Speaker 1: people coming, what's the connect Some people recognize you? Hey,

444
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:15,560
Speaker 1: and they can sometimes something you have to say hey,

445
00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,600
Speaker 1: and they're like you have something in your brain you're

446
00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:19,560
Speaker 1: gonna be I'm gonna say this or I'm gonna is there?

447
00:18:19,880 --> 00:18:21,280
Speaker 1: It depends is it the moment.

448
00:18:21,240 --> 00:18:21,840
Speaker 2: It's the moment.

449
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Speaker 3: I think something along the lines of I think when

450
00:18:25,240 --> 00:18:27,000
Speaker 3: you're on the Red carpet, you have to know that

451
00:18:27,040 --> 00:18:29,439
Speaker 3: you're about to meet this person's like character, like when

452
00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:32,359
Speaker 3: you're alone in Aruna party, there's no they're no longer.

453
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Speaker 1: That character on there exactly.

454
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Speaker 2: So I'm not meeting Stephanie.

455
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Speaker 3: I'm meeting Lady Gaga, you know what I mean, like

456
00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,359
Speaker 3: this person and I haven't, but I would love to

457
00:18:39,359 --> 00:18:39,959
Speaker 3: say that one day.

458
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Speaker 2: Yes, but like, thank you so much.

459
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Speaker 1: We're going to manifest.

460
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Speaker 3: I feel like when you're on the Red carpet one,

461
00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 3: people are very scared of TikTok and the SoundBite, you

462
00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:51,639
Speaker 3: know what I mean. So making someone comfortable immediately, you

463
00:18:51,720 --> 00:18:53,960
Speaker 3: know what I mean? So saying if it's a girl

464
00:18:54,119 --> 00:18:57,280
Speaker 3: saying something like I'm looking for earrings, just like that,

465
00:18:57,400 --> 00:18:59,080
Speaker 3: like where do I get those earings? Well that's a

466
00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:00,880
Speaker 3: little stupid because she's like my stilence.

467
00:19:00,560 --> 00:19:02,560
Speaker 1: Nobody see what you're going You're taking it off of

468
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Speaker 1: the moment into something that's like specific, yes and short

469
00:19:06,119 --> 00:19:08,040
Speaker 1: and kind of yes, you know easy.

470
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Speaker 2: Also, I use what I did as a child.

471
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Speaker 3: I'll say something in pop culture, like I'll say like,

472
00:19:12,680 --> 00:19:16,560
Speaker 3: did you see Stevie x is posting about Lindsay She

473
00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:18,520
Speaker 3: said happy birthday Lindsay. Like, I'll say something and they'll

474
00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:20,399
Speaker 3: be like, no, I know, and I'm like, this is

475
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:24,160
Speaker 3: crazy town. This is crazy town. Never let your situation

476
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 3: ship from sixty years. No, you're still thinking about that, yeah,

477
00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,440
Speaker 3: you know. Like I'll say something like that, or if

478
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,399
Speaker 3: I feel like the person is funny, I'll be like,

479
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Speaker 3: are we rolling?

480
00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,119
Speaker 2: Who'd you vote for? And then I'll say just kidding

481
00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:37,680
Speaker 2: the heart great spikes.

482
00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:41,359
Speaker 3: Now we're warmed up and now they know that I'm insane,

483
00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,160
Speaker 3: and then we have like a fun back and forth.

484
00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:44,760
Speaker 2: But it depends.

485
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:47,640
Speaker 3: My favorite person I've ever, ever, ever, ever, ever interviewed

486
00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:48,560
Speaker 3: is Melissa McCarthy.

487
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Speaker 2: You can see me, but no, no, no, this is conversation.

488
00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,960
Speaker 3: McCarthy is my favorite favorite favorite Yeah, and I love

489
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:56,800
Speaker 3: her so much, but she's I love when somebody meets

490
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,679
Speaker 3: you halfway, when somebody is like not giving you anything

491
00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:02,359
Speaker 3: to worry with I'm like, I'm dressed a little girl.

492
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:04,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, just trying my heart out.

493
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Speaker 2: Please I have to post this. I am yeah. Like

494
00:20:09,080 --> 00:20:11,960
Speaker 2: someone's like, how are you doing today? Good? I guess I'll

495
00:20:11,960 --> 00:20:12,639
Speaker 2: go fuck myself.

496
00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:14,360
Speaker 1: Thanks so much for help.

497
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Speaker 2: Oh my god, amazing. Thanks. Don't be so vulnerable. Let

498
00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,920
Speaker 2: me throw your line yeah, yes, and.

499
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:24,360
Speaker 1: Yes, and which is improv exact? Come on, we're improving here,

500
00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:25,399
Speaker 1: give me something I.

501
00:20:25,520 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 2: Like to sing.

502
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Speaker 1: Ah, you know what I mean.

503
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Speaker 3: But sometimes when someone is also on the red carpet

504
00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:32,320
Speaker 3: and the person before me, when the public is like

505
00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 3: one more question, she's like, I have five more questions.

506
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,600
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm going to get I'm going to get

507
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Speaker 3: her in a bad mood now, like I'm going to

508
00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:40,159
Speaker 3: get the tired girl. Yes, like, and I know I

509
00:20:40,160 --> 00:20:43,520
Speaker 3: can see it happening where the actors like nobody respects me.

510
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:44,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

511
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Speaker 1: I haven't really really thought about what goes into this

512
00:20:47,359 --> 00:20:47,679
Speaker 1: whole thing.

513
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,200
Speaker 2: But you're right, Yes, that's why beta blockers are important.

514
00:20:50,440 --> 00:20:53,000
Speaker 1: Incredibly important. And vodka I mean, honestly.

515
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Speaker 3: Martini Martiniz are back by the way.

516
00:20:55,920 --> 00:20:58,120
Speaker 2: They never left. They never left. But now in the.

517
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Speaker 1: What you are do you have? Are you drinker, Martini

518
00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,560
Speaker 1: drinker or Enjoyer and bibry you like.

519
00:21:03,680 --> 00:21:06,640
Speaker 3: I treat martiniz the way I do tattoos, where I

520
00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 3: want one and then I have one.

521
00:21:07,800 --> 00:21:09,960
Speaker 2: I go, why am I doing this?

522
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Speaker 1: This sucks in the middle, Yes, quite painful.

523
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:15,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I am. I am an orange wine girl.

524
00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: Now, oh, here's my thought about orange wine. I had

525
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: to take a deep breath. I think there's a place

526
00:21:22,040 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: and time and a place for everything. You think a

527
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 1: pizza parlor, Yeah, well, yes, I do make wine.

528
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Speaker 2: You make wine.

529
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, I have a wine business in eastern Washington.

530
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Speaker 2: That's a beautiful place to have a wine business.

531
00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:31,520
Speaker 1: A great place to have a wine and a.

532
00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:33,760
Speaker 2: Beautiful place to have a vampire fall in love with you.

533
00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: Oh interesting? Why is it a beautiful place? It's twilight,

534
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,880
Speaker 1: of course. But here's the things to me, and I've been.

535
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Speaker 2: To forks I have okay, but the wine.

536
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Speaker 1: The wine, But the wine is on the other side

537
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Speaker 1: of the stage.

538
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:47,640
Speaker 2: Okay, oka, okay, okay.

539
00:21:47,480 --> 00:21:50,040
Speaker 1: Well anyway, completely different. But I do love work too,

540
00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,680
Speaker 1: But it's all about the grapes. Yeah, I love it.

541
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Speaker 1: I've been doing this since twenty twenty, two thousand and five.

542
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Speaker 2: Apology may, I will not be drinking am Marlow.

543
00:21:56,119 --> 00:21:57,720
Speaker 1: No, that's oh, that's good.

544
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 2: It affected Merla sales.

545
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:01,120
Speaker 1: It did, it did, and they're just now coming back

546
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:06,560
Speaker 1: the powerful it's the powerful media cardigans this film. I'm

547
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:09,879
Speaker 1: still waiting whip out the card again. Do we have

548
00:22:09,960 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: a cardigan that we can share?

549
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 2: No? I would you love nothing more than do a

550
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:15,440
Speaker 2: podcast and a shared card again.

551
00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:16,880
Speaker 1: Idea. That would be fun.

552
00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 2: That would be fun.

553
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:18,520
Speaker 1: Okay, I'm down.

554
00:22:19,040 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 2: But when did you get into wine?

555
00:22:20,920 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 1: I started in high school.

556
00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:23,240
Speaker 2: There are so many layers to you.

557
00:22:24,560 --> 00:22:26,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't a beer drinker. I mean, you know, you

558
00:22:26,760 --> 00:22:28,480
Speaker 1: see the error of your ways as you get older.

559
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 1: But wasn't a beer drinker. But wine really appealed and spirits,

560
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,680
Speaker 1: which just kind of they just burned the inside of

561
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Speaker 1: my mind.

562
00:22:34,000 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 2: Was like that, Yeah, and I tell my secrets. I

563
00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:36,480
Speaker 2: can't handle spirits.

564
00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: No, it's too hard. But wine seems right. And I

565
00:22:39,160 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: also liked the idea, you know, it was kind of

566
00:22:40,640 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: the romance of it and sort of the oddness of it.

567
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Speaker 1: I was like one of a handful of people who

568
00:22:46,200 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 1: drank wine in my in my high school, no, and

569
00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:50,320
Speaker 1: nobody in my high school. But in college nobody drinks

570
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: wine in college. No, no, no, no, it's just yeah affectatious.

571
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,800
Speaker 2: If you're drinking wine in college, like you're going through something.

572
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, I left. I dropped out of school for

573
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Speaker 1: that for that one quarter. You said you dropped out

574
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,280
Speaker 1: five timesating seriously.

575
00:23:03,480 --> 00:23:05,280
Speaker 2: My mom's like, you can't do this. I'm like, but

576
00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:08,520
Speaker 2: I got to get back into what is it? Communications? Oh?

577
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:10,960
Speaker 1: I took I was going to be I took communications.

578
00:23:10,960 --> 00:23:13,320
Speaker 2: Would you drop out to do acting?

579
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,600
Speaker 1: Kind of? I dropped out because I was not doing

580
00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 1: well in school. So I just said no, you know,

581
00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,320
Speaker 1: and so I dropped out of school. I went to

582
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Speaker 1: work at a lumber factory. I cut wood for about

583
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Speaker 1: three months, made some money back in my hometown, and

584
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:27,000
Speaker 1: I went to Summerstock. That summer. I had this a

585
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,680
Speaker 1: little plan. I said, well kind of, there was no plan. B.

586
00:23:29,720 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 1: You know what I'm talking about it this is it.

587
00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,880
Speaker 1: And I went to flat Rock, North Carolina flat Rock Playhouse.

588
00:23:36,080 --> 00:23:39,760
Speaker 1: I got the lead role in the one apprentice role

589
00:23:40,400 --> 00:23:42,000
Speaker 1: in the one play that did look forward to Angel.

590
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,840
Speaker 1: It was like validation. It's like I can't always ask

591
00:23:45,920 --> 00:23:48,000
Speaker 1: me I think I can do this, I don't know

592
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:50,040
Speaker 1: how or how it wasn't in my family.

593
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,959
Speaker 2: When you know, when you know, like when they say

594
00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,360
Speaker 2: like when you know, you know. I feel that way

595
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:55,679
Speaker 2: about work sometimes I'm.

596
00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: Like, yeah, but trust it? Do you trust it?

597
00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:00,960
Speaker 2: No, my soulmate or work work?

598
00:24:01,160 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 1: No?

599
00:24:01,680 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 2: I trust myself.

600
00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:03,520
Speaker 1: Sure.

601
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Speaker 3: I just feel like this is a thing. Sometimes I'm

602
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:08,880
Speaker 3: like when I watch, for example, I love water World.

603
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,240
Speaker 3: Water World is one of the best films ever.

604
00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:15,480
Speaker 1: Right, because there are films that I love as well, see,

605
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,000
Speaker 1: but something about them? Yeah, what is it? Is there

606
00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,320
Speaker 1: anything about water World specifically that you're like, this is

607
00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:23,080
Speaker 1: why I love it? Is it just the idea?

608
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 2: I think it's so.

609
00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,440
Speaker 3: I mean the opening scene where he like drinks his pea,

610
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,040
Speaker 3: I'm like, I'm in. I'm like here here we are,

611
00:24:32,520 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 3: like me asking my mom what is scurvy? Like it's

612
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:38,200
Speaker 3: just like it's like, why does that man want the

613
00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: fruit so bad?

614
00:24:39,280 --> 00:24:41,520
Speaker 2: It's like scurvy? And I'm like, what the hell is scurvy?

615
00:24:41,560 --> 00:24:42,720
Speaker 2: How much should I be concerned?

616
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, Yeah, you're okay. I'm like, we're at sea level

617
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: from Miami, plenty of oranges. You're gonna be fine.

618
00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:49,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be fine. There's dam and see everywhere for

619
00:24:49,080 --> 00:24:49,600
Speaker 2: eyes to see.

620
00:24:49,680 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: No, but I love stories, and I think people don't

621
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: want stories anymore. They want to be entertained. That is different.

622
00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,640
Speaker 2: I think people should we should make with the weirdest

623
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,360
Speaker 2: movies possible. They're like, that would never happen in real life.

624
00:25:01,359 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 2: Oh good thing, it's a fucking movie.

625
00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. I obviously I think

626
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:08,800
Speaker 1: it's a really good observation stories.

627
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:10,920
Speaker 3: People are like, oh, that doesn't even look like New York.

628
00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:14,399
Speaker 3: We're watching Mighty morphin Power Rangers. Yeah, who cares if

629
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:16,480
Speaker 3: it doesn't look like Crosby Street the way you remember it,

630
00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:19,280
Speaker 3: Like whatever, And so I think we're doing like all

631
00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,040
Speaker 3: these superhero movies because people are just like they don't

632
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,520
Speaker 3: want stories that they don't want They just want to

633
00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 3: be like entertained, you know.

634
00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:29,280
Speaker 2: And I'm like, where are the weirdos that?

635
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: Why is it not? They don't want to connect with something?

636
00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:34,120
Speaker 2: Is there a people don't want to reflect? I think

637
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:34,600
Speaker 2: so much.

638
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 3: It's like when my mom is like really busy, she

639
00:25:36,800 --> 00:25:39,359
Speaker 3: won't watch TV or movies, Like when she's overwhelmed with work,

640
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:42,600
Speaker 3: she'll just like, I don't know what she does, you

641
00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: guys on her peloton.

642
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:45,800
Speaker 2: I don't know what. Yeah, yeah, but she or she'll

643
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: read something on her kindle, but she can't like emotionally attach.

644
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: Yes, just something that sort of calm down or as

645
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:52,879
Speaker 1: you said, detach.

646
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:55,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I'm going to say this tell me.

647
00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:57,720
Speaker 2: And so in the times of social media where we

648
00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: could be.

649
00:25:58,359 --> 00:26:01,560
Speaker 1: The most times of social media, hotail is all this.

650
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 2: I feel like we now have the opportunity to be

651
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:06,520
Speaker 2: the weirdest possible.

652
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,440
Speaker 3: Like when I watch like Hackers with Angelina Joli, you

653
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 3: know what I mean, And like there's all these people

654
00:26:11,240 --> 00:26:13,200
Speaker 3: that they're dressed like you know, like I think about

655
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 3: the nineties, I grunge, Like this is like the time

656
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,639
Speaker 3: to be like our most weird, Like the Fifth Element

657
00:26:17,720 --> 00:26:19,159
Speaker 3: is my favorite movie of all time. Like this is

658
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:22,320
Speaker 3: the time for us to be like weirdos. We're going troadwife,

659
00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 3: apron blonde hair, blonde hair.

660
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 2: I love you, But I'm just saying. I'm just saying,

661
00:26:27,080 --> 00:26:29,600
Speaker 2: like in the way where I'm like clean, clean girl,

662
00:26:29,680 --> 00:26:31,440
Speaker 2: Look what are we talking about. We need to shave

663
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 2: our heads, yeah yeah, and go and go wild. We

664
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:36,800
Speaker 2: need to bleach our eyebrows and dye our eyelashes green, Like.

665
00:26:36,840 --> 00:26:38,640
Speaker 1: We need to be as weird as there's so many

666
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 1: things to see, you know, online. I mean, it's just

667
00:26:40,440 --> 00:26:44,120
Speaker 1: it's a bombardment of different stuff. I feel like there's

668
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:47,119
Speaker 1: a need for for sort of a here's a linear story.

669
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 1: We're gonna follow these people, We're gonna like go on

670
00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,199
Speaker 1: this journey together. I just don't feel there's the patience anymore.

671
00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 2: No, there's not.

672
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,280
Speaker 1: But I also am a firm believer of the pendulum

673
00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,040
Speaker 1: it will swing back.

674
00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: As a father of a teen, how do you think

675
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 2: social media has a fit?

676
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,359
Speaker 1: I love our podcast, yes, going on social do you think.

677
00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,040
Speaker 2: Social media is affected him? Because I'm terrified.

678
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: I think it certainly had an impact, right, But on

679
00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: Callum's side, it's a it's a creative thing as well.

680
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 1: I mean, some of it's just nonsense. Okay, that's fine,

681
00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 1: I get it. I mean, you know, remember we're fifteen, sixteen,

682
00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:25,600
Speaker 1: seventeen years old. You're like, you know, just Mad magazine,

683
00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, just stuff that's just goofy

684
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:34,080
Speaker 1: and silly love Mad magazine magazine. But there's also the

685
00:27:34,640 --> 00:27:36,600
Speaker 1: learning side of it. So sometimes he's watching things and

686
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 1: the sort of learning about volcanoes in somewhere or the pyramids, needs.

687
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,080
Speaker 2: I could crush her castordable right now because media, you.

688
00:27:43,119 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: Know how to do it. Yeah, exactly. I would not

689
00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,680
Speaker 1: have known that any other way. You're not going to

690
00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:47,879
Speaker 1: go get a book at the library and say how

691
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:48,600
Speaker 1: to cast edible.

692
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,359
Speaker 2: No father, like farmer John just did it.

693
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:52,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, you can get the four step process.

694
00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 2: This is what you do. Go it. Yeah, you learn

695
00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:56,080
Speaker 2: about how people live.

696
00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it's cool, you know, because you can travel

697
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,680
Speaker 1: the world and the mind of people just you know,

698
00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:03,560
Speaker 1: right here at the palm of your hand. But I

699
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 1: do feel like that there is there's a story, which

700
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,680
Speaker 1: I think is why I enjoy and he enjoys sitting

701
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,000
Speaker 1: down and watching you know, we'll watch an episode of

702
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 1: Star Wars or something the best. It's a telling. It's

703
00:28:13,480 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: a story. It's a journey, and it's like we can't

704
00:28:16,440 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 1: lose that. That's so important and I don't think we will.

705
00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: Stories are just they're just part of who.

706
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:23,680
Speaker 2: We are someone.

707
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, right now, we're like we're someone is creating a

708
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,200
Speaker 3: story right now. They just have to live through it.

709
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 2: I need AI just stop being so scary though it's

710
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:34,320
Speaker 2: freaking me out. Yeah, it's very very scary.

711
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 3: I'm like, no one, no one watched Minority Report. I

712
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:39,640
Speaker 3: do feel like AI is getting to a place where

713
00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:42,240
Speaker 3: I just don't I want a I want. I fear

714
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 3: that people like your son will feel like they're constantly

715
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: being tested to see if they're a good person, like

716
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,480
Speaker 3: the good person contests, and that they also are desirable,

717
00:28:51,520 --> 00:28:52,440
Speaker 3: but they also don't care.

718
00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: But they're also empathetic.

719
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:56,960
Speaker 3: But they're also very cool and very busy, but they

720
00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,120
Speaker 3: also have time for their lovemons I social media.

721
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,640
Speaker 1: This is life. If this is don't you remember growing up?

722
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:04,600
Speaker 1: These were all things. It's just that it's accelerated. Yeah,

723
00:29:04,640 --> 00:29:05,960
Speaker 1: and it's in their face all the time.

724
00:29:06,080 --> 00:29:07,200
Speaker 2: Do you have lifelong friends?

725
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:07,680
Speaker 1: I do.

726
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: How do you balance career and maintaining your friendships?

727
00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:17,440
Speaker 1: I don't, Okay, I was I friends. No, It's weird

728
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,120
Speaker 1: because I have my friends from grade school who I

729
00:29:20,280 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 1: just saw recently. We don't see each other that frequently

730
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:24,640
Speaker 1: when we do get back together for whatever reason. I

731
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: was just up in my hometown of Yakama. I was

732
00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 1: doing a speech there at the Capitol Theater, like a

733
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,160
Speaker 1: little talk at the Capital Theater. A couple of my

734
00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 1: friends came up from Portland and one still was in

735
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 1: Yakama and they came to see me and I told

736
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 1: the stories and I shouted out it from the stage

737
00:29:37,080 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 1: and it was really fun. We share, you know, you

738
00:29:39,440 --> 00:29:42,200
Speaker 1: share this history and it's so interesting because I was like,

739
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:47,600
Speaker 1: do I like, I do like to reminisce it's.

740
00:29:48,040 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: We are such water signs. It makes me sick. If

741
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,600
Speaker 2: you could put nossage on a pipeye to smoke it.

742
00:29:52,680 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go. I mean, it's crazy, right, Oh

743
00:29:54,760 --> 00:29:58,280
Speaker 1: my god, I agree. I wouldn't say it exactly like that,

744
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,560
Speaker 1: but I agree what you're saying.

745
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880
Speaker 3: What's that bench? It's like we were girls together in

746
00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 3: the park bench in Central Park. It's like, to my

747
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 3: best friend Susan from Julie, we were girls together. I

748
00:30:08,920 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 3: could cry right now.

749
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 1: Oh that's really mean too. That's really because it really

750
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:15,960
Speaker 1: is that right. And as I think, honestly, the older

751
00:30:16,160 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 1: I get, the more I'm like, let me think back

752
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: on that and remember those days, because they'll have memories

753
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,920
Speaker 1: that that that I don't have, and vice versa. And

754
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,560
Speaker 1: we share this and I think it's such an important thing.

755
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,959
Speaker 1: I don't do it that much. I wish I did

756
00:30:29,000 --> 00:30:29,360
Speaker 1: it more.

757
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, but this is the thing capitalism we have to

758
00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,560
Speaker 2: worry it's not.

759
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:37,840
Speaker 3: I literally look at people and I'm like, capital, I

760
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:39,440
Speaker 3: can't because I have to pay my rent.

761
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:41,080
Speaker 1: I have to go to right, you gotta go work,

762
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:41,840
Speaker 1: you gotta go to work.

763
00:30:41,960 --> 00:30:43,520
Speaker 2: Yes, oh yes, I do have a podcast.

764
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, I'm mean listening to your podcast.

765
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 2: I'm getting no.

766
00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: No, no, I want to hear. I want to hear.

767
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: I want to hear. I want to hear. Okay, how

768
00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 1: did you sort of plan I'm gonna talk about this,

769
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 1: talk about this, talk about this.

770
00:30:52,960 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 2: I do.

771
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,880
Speaker 3: I mean, thank god, the Kardashians always doing something, I

772
00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 3: mean without during COVID, I was like, what are what

773
00:30:58,320 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 3: am I supposed to do?

774
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,920
Speaker 2: Right now? Go outside, do something exactly.

775
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 3: I have this podcast because I wanted to be like

776
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,560
Speaker 3: before I did social media, I was a receptionist and

777
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: I went to this like random audition for to host

778
00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 3: my own pop culture show before it was in twenty nineteen.

779
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 2: I showed up like five hundred people auditioned. I got it,

780
00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 2: and that's crazy, I know. I was literally just I

781
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,800
Speaker 2: was googling how to transfer call like I like.

782
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: Poorly, you know what I mean, that's where you were headed?

783
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:24,440
Speaker 2: And then this I would cry to my mom being

784
00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 2: like I'm never going to do anything, like I'm never

785
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: going to travel.

786
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 3: My mom would laugh and I'd be like, what she's like.

787
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 3: Life has a funny way of putting you in the

788
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 3: place you're supposed to be.

789
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, how do I wish we could trust that?

790
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I wish we could trust that, and I can't. You know,

791
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: it's very it's impossible until it happens, and you're like, oh, yeah,

792
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:38,920
Speaker 1: I guess.

793
00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 2: I guess it did work out.

794
00:31:40,200 --> 00:31:42,720
Speaker 3: But like like being a receptionist and like not having

795
00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,560
Speaker 3: any skills, like I was saying before, I would literally

796
00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 3: use I was a personality higher, like the face.

797
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 2: Of personality higher, you know what I mean.

798
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:52,719
Speaker 3: And I remember just trying to connect with people all

799
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 3: the time because they won't fire me if they like you.

800
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: And you know, I found out that people some moile

801
00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 3: fire you even though they like you if you looking

802
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: mass up.

803
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: They liked me.

804
00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,160
Speaker 3: I signed a contract and they were offering me health

805
00:32:05,160 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 3: insurance to this production company for this pop culture show

806
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:09,880
Speaker 3: and it was live every day at twelve thirty. So

807
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 3: my first thing ever in front of a camera was live.

808
00:32:13,080 --> 00:32:15,960
Speaker 3: But I knew, I knew I was likable. That's the

809
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 3: only thing I had nothing else. I didn't have experience,

810
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:19,600
Speaker 3: but I knew in my heart that I was likable.

811
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:21,600
Speaker 3: So when I came back and I was like, I

812
00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 3: have to quit my job. I got my own show.

813
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,440
Speaker 3: They were like, say, you're gonna go work for a competitor.

814
00:32:25,520 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 3: You have to do these live.

815
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 2: I'm like, no, true, it's real.

816
00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:31,000
Speaker 3: And then that was we I got the job on

817
00:32:31,040 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 3: in July twenty nineteen. We went live in October, and

818
00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 3: then March thirteen, twenty twenty, they were like, yeah, we're going.

819
00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 2: To take a two week break. And obviously, and on

820
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 2: TikTok I was thirty.

821
00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:44,640
Speaker 3: I thought that, honestly, I was just going to try

822
00:32:44,680 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 3: to maintain this small community I've already built with this show.

823
00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:49,680
Speaker 3: I had like ten thousand follows on TikTok at this point,

824
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,640
Speaker 3: and I thought like, oh, well, oh it's been a month,

825
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 3: so I'll just keep talking.

826
00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,360
Speaker 2: I'll just keep talking.

827
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 3: And then people started asking me things like will I

828
00:32:57,480 --> 00:33:00,520
Speaker 3: ever survive this breakup or something? And I'm thirty at

829
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,280
Speaker 3: the point, I'm like, of course, And I would talk

830
00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 3: about that and then people say, what was two thousand

831
00:33:05,160 --> 00:33:08,000
Speaker 3: and five? Like Tom Cruise jumping on the couch right

832
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,800
Speaker 3: tough lot Kanye West.

833
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: Business leap to the front of the mine. But yeah,

834
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 1: I understand that has.

835
00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 2: To be on the wiki.

836
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:21,400
Speaker 3: Something I wanted to get back to my receptionist roots

837
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 3: were like I just wanted the girls to listen to

838
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Speaker 3: something on the way to work and feel like I

839
00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:28,160
Speaker 3: miss it. I do. I don't miss being a receptionist,

840
00:33:28,520 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 3: but I do miss like, I guess, nostalgia of getting

841
00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:34,960
Speaker 3: on the train, like going to work, seeing the front,

842
00:33:35,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 3: the security guard at the front, doing the id thing

843
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,920
Speaker 3: coming in. Yes, the community of it, you know, because

844
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 3: all day long I am literally looking at a reflection

845
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,040
Speaker 3: of myself and talking and hoping that people hear me

846
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,360
Speaker 3: or that it does well, you know what I mean.

847
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:53,040
Speaker 3: I do I miss like or when I don't believe

848
00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 3: in like humanity anymore, I get like I see like

849
00:33:56,240 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 3: a teenager, like open the door for a pregnant lady,

850
00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 3: and I'm like, we're still here. So people are so

851
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 3: good And when you're filming tiktoks alone in your in

852
00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,080
Speaker 3: your house, sometimes you can forget that there is like

853
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:06,880
Speaker 3: goodness in the world.

854
00:34:06,960 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 2: You know.

855
00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:09,120
Speaker 1: I'm just starting this journey, right, and there's lots of

856
00:34:09,160 --> 00:34:12,920
Speaker 1: things pop culture, social media, things that I do not understand.

857
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: So I'm just going to put it out there and say, Okay,

858
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,480
Speaker 1: I need some I need some help, I need some

859
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: education on this, and I'd like to ask you some

860
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:20,959
Speaker 1: questions about some things.

861
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:22,200
Speaker 2: God, I hope I know what it is.

862
00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: No, it's not even quiz. It's just like you're gonna

863
00:34:24,000 --> 00:34:26,319
Speaker 1: know everything. Okay, I don't know it. Okay, So I'm

864
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: very So that's what I'm laying myself bare here. Lives

865
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:36,799
Speaker 1: in Jos probably don't recognize me in my outfit because

866
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:40,080
Speaker 1: I'm wearing a beanie cap with a propeller the traditional

867
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 1: and the suspenders and a red bow tie and teffe

868
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,240
Speaker 1: is very fetching.

869
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 2: How could you prove your kyle right now?

870
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 1: Oh, let's see my social Security number? Oh that was

871
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:55,280
Speaker 1: so close. That was so close.

872
00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:58,959
Speaker 3: I'm wearing a button beautiful, gorgeous, but just for people.

873
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: Can't say headtoel.

874
00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: Exactly. I'm wearing nothing at all.

875
00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 3: Nothing in the nude. Yes, I'm in the nude in

876
00:35:09,800 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 3: a Tom Fourth song. No I'm kidding, I am. I'm

877
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: in a gorgeous bib of a shirt with a pink

878
00:35:16,760 --> 00:35:17,920
Speaker 3: tie and I've got my glass.

879
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 2: I look like a beauty school dropout.

880
00:35:20,719 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 1: Yes you. So we're back and we're gonna do this

881
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: segment that I designed just for you. This is called

882
00:35:30,880 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: teach Me Teffy. Teach Me Tiffy, where I get vulnerable

883
00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: and ask about some trends that I don't quite understand.

884
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:43,839
Speaker 1: Educate me on some of these. Okay, ask away, ask away,

885
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:48,520
Speaker 1: you have a you have a whiteboard. That's what I'm

886
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 1: looking for, a diarrase marker. Okay. Question one, why do

887
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:56,479
Speaker 1: people shay I'm in my blank era? And do people

888
00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,040
Speaker 1: really need so many eras?

889
00:35:59,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 2: I think it's in order.

890
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 3: So blank era, let's say right now, I'm in my

891
00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 3: Tabby like I love Tabby's. Right now, I'm in my

892
00:36:07,719 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 3: Tabby era, or like I'm in my sci fi era,

893
00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 3: or I'm in my maybe I would say my receptionist era.

894
00:36:15,520 --> 00:36:15,600
Speaker 2: Right.

895
00:36:18,360 --> 00:36:22,200
Speaker 3: But also it emphasizes that nothing is definitive, that things

896
00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,960
Speaker 3: will change. It is a way to take control of

897
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,879
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, the timeline happening. So when

898
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:31,879
Speaker 3: someone says like, I'm just really in my lover girl

899
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:34,839
Speaker 3: era right now, a person's looking for somebody to love.

900
00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 3: But that may change the messandry era is on her way.

901
00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:42,320
Speaker 1: Okay, I understood, understood, okay, very good and eras can change.

902
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: By the drop of a hat or the cut of

903
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 2: a bang, a conversation.

904
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:49,640
Speaker 1: At the cut of the bang, We're gonna have to

905
00:36:49,680 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: go to that era.

906
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 2: Horrifying.

907
00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,120
Speaker 3: I like literally watched a teenage dream with Katy Perry,

908
00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,080
Speaker 3: that music video chain Bank.

909
00:36:55,160 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 1: So I did it?

910
00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:57,680
Speaker 2: How stupid could you do? I look nothing like Katy?

911
00:36:58,080 --> 00:36:58,480
Speaker 1: You tried it?

912
00:36:58,640 --> 00:36:59,520
Speaker 2: I did. I was brave.

913
00:37:00,080 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: That's I mean, you gotta try, you get something, you

914
00:37:01,520 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 1: get points for that. I was in my brave girl

915
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:06,120
Speaker 1: hera Okay, I get it. What and who is de Lulu?

916
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:07,880
Speaker 1: I kind of know this, but go ahead.

917
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,920
Speaker 2: De Lulu is a little person that lives inside of us.

918
00:37:10,920 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 1: All okay.

919
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:15,439
Speaker 3: So when I was little, okay, I've read this book

920
00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:17,520
Speaker 3: that said there's a little man that lives in your

921
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,640
Speaker 3: mouth and he can only breathe when you say please

922
00:37:20,920 --> 00:37:25,400
Speaker 3: and thank you. As a reminder to children, Delulu is

923
00:37:25,480 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 3: a is the person is delusional. It's delusions, right, And

924
00:37:29,480 --> 00:37:31,839
Speaker 3: it's this little man that lives in your brain stem

925
00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:35,560
Speaker 3: and tells you they do like you. In fact, they

926
00:37:35,640 --> 00:37:37,160
Speaker 3: haven't texted you, not because they don't like you.

927
00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: It's because they like you too much. Okay, so sometimes

928
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: and they protect us. This de Lulu man protects us.

929
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:48,480
Speaker 3: Okay, sometimes it does lead to a wellness check because

930
00:37:48,520 --> 00:37:49,359
Speaker 3: he protects.

931
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: Us so much, so much.

932
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:55,439
Speaker 3: So for example, let's say you tell me I really

933
00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:59,360
Speaker 3: want Baywatch to come back so I can finally.

934
00:37:59,040 --> 00:37:59,840
Speaker 1: Be how did you know?

935
00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:05,359
Speaker 3: I know? I see in your eyes David, yes that twinkle? Yes, right,

936
00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 3: And you're like, that should be me. I should be

937
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 3: in that red bathing suit, and I'd be like, you

938
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:12,120
Speaker 3: know what, his the Lulu, but.

939
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 1: It just might happen, just might happen. That was good.

940
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: I didn't expect that answer.

941
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: I like that.

942
00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,319
Speaker 1: Three why do people post screenshots from their notes app

943
00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: on Instagram?

944
00:38:22,840 --> 00:38:27,319
Speaker 3: Some of us are writing poetry, some of us never

945
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:30,759
Speaker 3: thought that. Well, sometimes it won It can be an

946
00:38:30,760 --> 00:38:33,280
Speaker 3: apology Sorry I said.

947
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:34,960
Speaker 1: That, Oh keep my job.

948
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 3: That can be one, Okay, that's apolongy you know what

949
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:41,000
Speaker 3: I mean, Like please, please please Amazon, don't be scared

950
00:38:41,000 --> 00:38:42,800
Speaker 3: of me. I'm saying sorry, you know what I mean, like,

951
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:46,000
Speaker 3: give me a job, right, And then two it can

952
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 3: be to show maybe the how expansive girlhood could be.

953
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,560
Speaker 3: Like one note app can be please text like text

954
00:38:54,640 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 3: mom in the morning, get oranges, toilet paper.

955
00:38:56,760 --> 00:38:58,840
Speaker 2: The next can be I did everything for you. How

956
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 2: could you do this too?

957
00:38:59,640 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 1: Okay?

958
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:03,320
Speaker 3: Or like you practice your text. I sometimes if I

959
00:39:03,400 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: have to confront someone, I'll put it in my notes

960
00:39:04,960 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: at you know what I mean. And then sometimes I've

961
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 3: had two wines on a fall evening and I have

962
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,240
Speaker 3: things to say. Yes, you know what I mean, babbling

963
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:15,960
Speaker 3: brook of poetry, you know what I mean?

964
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: Yes, And that goes on the notes too.

965
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,400
Speaker 3: Yes, but it shows like how there's so many layers

966
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,080
Speaker 3: and everybody has a little girlhood in them.

967
00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,960
Speaker 2: You know, right, we've got to do do Lulu.

968
00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:26,400
Speaker 3: We've got the grounded man, and we've also got the girlhood,

969
00:39:26,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: girl in your heads.

970
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:29,319
Speaker 1: Okay. I always thought it. I mean I thought maybe

971
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:31,000
Speaker 1: people do it because they say, look how busy I am,

972
00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:32,920
Speaker 1: Look what I can do. These are my notes. This

973
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 1: is what I'm going to accomplish today.

974
00:39:35,080 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 2: I think, Yeah, people do care how busy we are.

975
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:37,200
Speaker 2: They do care.

976
00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:39,440
Speaker 1: But I love I love your answer this so much.

977
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,040
Speaker 1: What is a canon event?

978
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 2: Climax?

979
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:45,600
Speaker 3: This is a okay, so a cannon event for example, right,

980
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,400
Speaker 3: has your son had a romantic crush already?

981
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: Yes?

982
00:39:49,840 --> 00:39:53,240
Speaker 3: Yes, So having a crush on the popular girl who's

983
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 3: dating the quarterback. That's a canon event for every teenager.

984
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? A canon event is oh

985
00:39:58,800 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 2: my god.

986
00:39:59,560 --> 00:40:03,640
Speaker 3: A big canon event is when a girl, a girl

987
00:40:03,680 --> 00:40:05,800
Speaker 3: and a boy who are a couple in high school

988
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:08,439
Speaker 3: say they're going to stay together through college and they're

989
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 3: long distance. That is a canon event in every young

990
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:11,279
Speaker 3: girl's life.

991
00:40:11,280 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: I feel, Okay, so does it mean it's gonna come?

992
00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: You cannot interfere with the canon event?

993
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,439
Speaker 1: Okay, it's just yes.

994
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:23,000
Speaker 2: It's also like where's that movie where you go back

995
00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 2: at time? But oh, like back to the future. You

996
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 2: cannot interfere you know what I mean? It like makes

997
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,160
Speaker 2: you who you are? Yes, Like if I told you like.

998
00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:33,200
Speaker 1: I'm gonna so it's something for the future or something

999
00:40:33,239 --> 00:40:34,040
Speaker 1: already happened.

1000
00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:35,840
Speaker 2: Something that's happening, but you cannot interfere with it.

1001
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:39,279
Speaker 3: Where it is everybody has gone through this, Like it's

1002
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:40,960
Speaker 3: when my mom was like, you have to go through

1003
00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,640
Speaker 3: your first heartbreak. I wish I could ticket for you

1004
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 3: from you, but this is like it happens to everyone,

1005
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 3: Like watching your child be sad is so horrible, But

1006
00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:48,960
Speaker 3: it is a canon event.

1007
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:49,560
Speaker 2: In their life.

1008
00:40:49,560 --> 00:40:51,600
Speaker 1: Okay, you know what I mean. It's an art of

1009
00:40:53,120 --> 00:40:56,840
Speaker 1: exactly should I join the brain rot community? Am I

1010
00:40:57,520 --> 00:40:58,840
Speaker 1: the brain rot community?

1011
00:40:59,160 --> 00:40:59,319
Speaker 2: Well?

1012
00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: You are part of the brain rock community because Bratt

1013
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:07,360
Speaker 3: became part Anything that becomes becomes part of pop culture lexicon,

1014
00:41:07,960 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 3: they consider it brain rot. So is there a TikTok

1015
00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 3: sound a sounder trend right now that you're obsessed with

1016
00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: that you think of? Like for me, sometimes I think

1017
00:41:15,920 --> 00:41:17,840
Speaker 3: of like, give me fourteen of them right now, Like

1018
00:41:17,880 --> 00:41:18,920
Speaker 3: I think about that all the time.

1019
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: That's brain rot, brain rot.

1020
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:23,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, I've just started only the six seventh thing, but

1021
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:24,120
Speaker 1: but I think that's.

1022
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 2: Seven is crazy. But you know what it is? Eighties

1023
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,680
Speaker 2: brain rot? Where's the beef?

1024
00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: That's brain Oh my god. This happens to me all

1025
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,200
Speaker 1: the time. Yes, things come and we've actually during the podcast,

1026
00:41:34,239 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: we've we've thrown stuff out there all the time that

1027
00:41:36,640 --> 00:41:38,200
Speaker 1: sticks because of that with that.

1028
00:41:38,320 --> 00:41:43,439
Speaker 3: Showdown father brain Rot, toot father godfather, godfather brain Yeah,

1029
00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:46,400
Speaker 3: you come to me on the day of my daughter's BBS.

1030
00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:51,600
Speaker 1: You come to me. I must I'm going to grant

1031
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 1: you wish. It may never come to happen one day,

1032
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,680
Speaker 1: I may you know, I'm getting it. I'm getting it.

1033
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,200
Speaker 1: I might get an A in this. Maybe let's I

1034
00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,839
Speaker 1: think you're on your way. Okay, I get a grade.

1035
00:42:05,320 --> 00:42:05,919
Speaker 2: You get a grade.

1036
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:10,520
Speaker 1: If people in my comments are calling me mother, is

1037
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,839
Speaker 1: that a good thing? This is good because I really

1038
00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 1: feel like I'm asking the right person in these questions,

1039
00:42:15,360 --> 00:42:17,399
Speaker 1: because you really know, because these are answers that I'm

1040
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 1: not expecting, and they're really in depth and you really thought.

1041
00:42:20,840 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 2: Through these are people calling me mother in your comment

1042
00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:24,719
Speaker 2: section at times? Have you seen them.

1043
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:26,719
Speaker 1: Performing me mother in my comments section?

1044
00:42:26,960 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 3: That is very positive, But it's also like like Beyonce

1045
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,759
Speaker 3: is mother, like that is mother? You know, Like I

1046
00:42:34,840 --> 00:42:37,239
Speaker 3: feel like, you know what anybody that's going through like

1047
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,360
Speaker 3: their David you know what I mean, Like the direction

1048
00:42:40,560 --> 00:42:43,120
Speaker 3: like they're going through like their David era, you know,

1049
00:42:43,200 --> 00:42:45,200
Speaker 3: and they're lulu enough to believe that they could be

1050
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 3: a director of that.

1051
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:48,520
Speaker 2: They are watching a lot of your films.

1052
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:51,440
Speaker 1: And your mother. Yeah, okay, so kind of.

1053
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:56,960
Speaker 3: Like David would also be mother, yeah, upper echelon, yes,

1054
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:01,000
Speaker 3: But like anybody can be mother, even if for a moment,

1055
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:01,920
Speaker 3: like you can.

1056
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,120
Speaker 2: I can see Jessica Chestain. I'm always trying to see

1057
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: chest right.

1058
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:07,400
Speaker 3: I can see her in a red carpet and she

1059
00:43:07,480 --> 00:43:09,840
Speaker 3: looks amazing. She's always wearing like emerald green because she

1060
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:13,120
Speaker 3: knows it works, and like in her Gucci fit. I

1061
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:16,360
Speaker 3: can comment and caps mother like everything, you know what

1062
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,759
Speaker 3: I mean. I would love to know if there are

1063
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: people saying that your mother or like one of your

1064
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: caps should be like, I'm so mother right now.

1065
00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: Okay, that's good. It gets baby girl a lot too,

1066
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:26,600
Speaker 1: which I feel like, is.

1067
00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 3: I do feel your baby girl? Codd ya do you

1068
00:43:29,600 --> 00:43:31,239
Speaker 3: think I'm babygirl? Do I give baby girl?

1069
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:31,920
Speaker 2: Do I give mother?

1070
00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 1: Yeah? Oh that's tough because based upon what I'm learning,

1071
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:38,719
Speaker 1: I feel like mother you are because you so.

1072
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:42,880
Speaker 2: Represent or cousin. I give cousin yeah maybe yeah yeah.

1073
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: Yeah, but baby girl, I mean you are baby girl

1074
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,719
Speaker 1: because there's so this is a tough difference. This is

1075
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:49,280
Speaker 1: really a challenge to sort of define these things.

1076
00:43:49,200 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 2: Like baby girl. Like people say Jacob Belordi's baby girl.

1077
00:43:51,880 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 2: He's just like so like, yeah, yeah, you know what

1078
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:54,400
Speaker 2: I mean.

1079
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,120
Speaker 3: Like, but also like but tim Timothy Salame is not

1080
00:43:57,239 --> 00:43:58,719
Speaker 3: baby girl, that's mother.

1081
00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah so leo oh see this is tricky. I

1082
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 1: wish you really at home. There's there's a lot of thinking.

1083
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:13,479
Speaker 3: There's a lot yes, Basketball diaries, Leo Titanic, Leo baby Girl.

1084
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,359
Speaker 1: Okay, I see, yes, you have to divide it into era.

1085
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 1: We're back to era. Look at this starting to speak

1086
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:20,080
Speaker 1: to Lu.

1087
00:44:20,120 --> 00:44:20,680
Speaker 2: You're limitless.

1088
00:44:20,840 --> 00:44:24,759
Speaker 1: Good lord, my god, I can see it's through my hand.

1089
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:25,840
Speaker 2: My mind is like a sponge.

1090
00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:29,160
Speaker 1: Oh my lord. Okay. Lastly, is it cool when actors

1091
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:30,400
Speaker 1: become podcasters?

1092
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:34,839
Speaker 3: Shakespeare said life is but a stage? Right, Yes, yes,

1093
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 3: I think it's so mother of you to be in

1094
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:43,279
Speaker 3: your podcast era, because only like a du Lulu baby

1095
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:45,440
Speaker 3: Girl would be like, I'm going to create my own stage.

1096
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And that's brain rock.

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Speaker 4: Wow.

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Speaker 1: And that's brain rock, ladies and gentlemen, that's taffy.

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Speaker 2: What a plus.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 1: That's beautiful. Welcome. It's actually a with a little.

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Speaker 3: Across, you know, as a college dropout. Five times, I'm

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Speaker 3: giving you an a.

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Speaker 1: God, I'm honored, thank you so very much. I feel

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Speaker 1: like really great. I feel like we connected on so

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Speaker 1: many levels. And I'm really I'm jazz, So tell me,

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Speaker 1: just give me what's happening with you? What I am?

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Speaker 2: I have a column with the cut called ass Tuffy.

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Speaker 1: Yes, which I read. This is great, thank you so much. Yep.

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Speaker 3: And then I have a podcast with Box called Tevy Talks,

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Speaker 3: and I have social media where I also show face

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Speaker 3: and I'm.

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Speaker 2: Mother there as well.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is amazing, and.

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Speaker 2: Tello Taffy, you can catch me at Hello Teffy or

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Speaker 2: in your.

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Speaker 1: Dreams beautiful beautiful. One quick question? Have you ever have

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Speaker 1: you had your mom on or thought about that or

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Speaker 1: that so scary?

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Speaker 3: I mean that would be well, you know when your

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Speaker 3: parents are on you turn fifteen ye, which is not

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Speaker 3: like my favorite era of self, you know, but maybe,

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Speaker 3: but what if they giver what if it's like then

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Speaker 3: MJ talks and ask mj' also take my job?

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that's that's a concern. That's a worry, Like

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Speaker 1: damn they like her more than me.

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Speaker 3: Yeah yeah, yeah, we don't know the job market. There's

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Speaker 3: not enough influences out there.

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Speaker 1: No, you you're at the very top. All right, folks,

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Speaker 1: were done. That's why we have confidence. Hey what are

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Speaker 1: we even doing?

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Speaker 4: Is a production of iHeartMedia and the Elvis Duran podcast network,

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Speaker 4: hosted by me Kyle McLachlin and created and produced by

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Speaker 4: Full Picture productionists Yay, featuring music by Yata and artwork

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Speaker 4: by Danica Robinson. For more information about the podcast, please

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Speaker 4: visit our Instagram and TikTok at wa w ed with Kyle.

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Speaker 4: Please rate, review, and subscribe to What Are We Even

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Speaker 4: Doing on Apple, Spotify, YouTube, or anywhere you get your podcasts.

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Speaker 1: Exclamation point