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Speaker 1: Just twenty five days now to Super Bowl fifty nine,

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Speaker 4: They last one in Super Bowl in ninety five? What

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Speaker 6: Welcome Sarah Walsh and Bucky Books here to talk about

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Speaker 6: Texans chief Sarah, obviously you are going to be there.

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Speaker 6: And we saw, man, we saw this Texans defense just

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Speaker 6: The whole deal gets a little different when you're facing

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Speaker 8: Well, here's the thing.

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Speaker 9: The Chiefs are clearly rusted that Texans defense is clearly

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Speaker 9: They hit him nine times, they stacked him four times,

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Speaker 9: And this is a team I think the sect him once.

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Speaker 8: Another thing to keep an eye on one guy.

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Speaker 9: That they did not have week sixteen that they are

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Speaker 9: as he's Al Shier. He did not play in that

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Speaker 9: But their defensive coordinator, Matt Burke about how he takes

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Speaker 10: Yeah, this is a very good Texans defense, and it

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Speaker 10: But then you talk about not only the second level

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Speaker 10: The thing about dealing with the Kansa the Chiefs is

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Speaker 9: But this is not rocket science, and Bucky just touched

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's the kind of thing where he's going to

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Speaker 6: But he is capable of doing it. It's just a

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Speaker 6: enjoying that game, which I hope is going to be

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Speaker 1: Hey, a real simple to day, This real simple to day.

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Speaker 1: What the.

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Speaker 4: What the wanted to get up?

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Speaker 2: I still fuck that right now?

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Speaker 5: What the first stop to the last stuff?

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Speaker 11: They over the field with use They don't know from

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Speaker 6: I'm going on everything I just give me every day.

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Speaker 1: Don't do that? Well, what did.

440
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Speaker 7: Bring it up?

441
00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: He is a hype man and All Pro linebacker on

442
00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:18,440
Speaker 1: the field, also doing great things off the field. A

443
00:21:18,560 --> 00:21:21,240
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four Walter Payton Man of the Year nominee

444
00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,679
Speaker 1: for the Baltimore Ravens. Roquan Smith and what do you know,

445
00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,360
Speaker 1: Roquan also joining us here on the Insiders right now

446
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,720
Speaker 1: with me, Tom Pilicero and Judy Batisia. We got a

447
00:21:30,720 --> 00:21:33,560
Speaker 1: ton to get into Roquan with you big game this week,

448
00:21:33,600 --> 00:21:36,159
Speaker 1: But start out by telling me about this honor. I

449
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 1: know you do a lot of work through the Roquan

450
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:40,960
Speaker 1: Smith Foundation. Just tell me what this means to you,

451
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Speaker 1: what your community.

452
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Speaker 3: Work means to you.

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Speaker 12: Absolutely, thank you guys for having me and honestly community

454
00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 12: work for me. I'm very grateful to be in a

455
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Speaker 12: position to be able to give back to a lot

456
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Speaker 12: of individuals. It brings joy to my heart and I've

457
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:57,399
Speaker 12: just always told myself that if I'm ever in a

458
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:59,879
Speaker 12: position to give back and on what it means to

459
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Speaker 12: countless others in small communities, rural communities and bring a

460
00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 12: small to those single parents, faces, kids faces who are

461
00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:09,800
Speaker 12: going through very tough times, that I'll just always be

462
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Speaker 12: willing to do that. So I'm just very grateful to

463
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Speaker 12: be in this position and it means the world to me.

464
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Speaker 1: What sparked your interest?

465
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Speaker 5: I know so much of your work is about, like

466
00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:20,040
Speaker 5: you said, building up families, helping children in school. What

467
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 5: sparked your interest in those areas in particular?

468
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Speaker 12: I would say things that sparked my interest in those

469
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,960
Speaker 12: areas would be primarily like where I grew up. Grew

470
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Speaker 12: up in a very small town in the middle of

471
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Speaker 12: southwest Georgia, like population of a thousand people, and where

472
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Speaker 12: it takes a community to raise a kid, and just

473
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Speaker 12: being there in those shoes, and just knowing what it

474
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Speaker 12: meant to me when I would see college players and

475
00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:45,360
Speaker 12: very random if I would have seen an NFL player

476
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,879
Speaker 12: come by, and just seeing the joy that it brought

477
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Speaker 12: to my face and as well as the other kids' faces,

478
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Speaker 12: and just knowing what it means to those communities and

479
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 12: like being in one of those communities. So it's just

480
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Speaker 12: something that I said, when I become and get into

481
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Speaker 12: that position, that I always scribe to make sure I

482
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Speaker 12: give back to those that are in those type of communities.

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Speaker 1: Love that we got footage of you doing like a

484
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,880
Speaker 1: million different things there too. You're sign autographs, you're playing

485
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Speaker 1: with the kids. I think that's how you changing a

486
00:23:10,280 --> 00:23:11,920
Speaker 1: bike tire in there that might have been you in

487
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Speaker 1: a mascot. I don't know everything, but obviously you've got

488
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: a lot that you're doing away from the facility. This

489
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Speaker 1: week though you got maybe the game of the year.

490
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Speaker 1: The entire country is hyped for Ravens Bills. What's the

491
00:23:22,680 --> 00:23:25,200
Speaker 1: feeling in the facility going into this matchup.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, very excited about this matchup with the Bills, knowing

493
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Speaker 12: that they're a really good team led by Josh Allen,

494
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Speaker 12: and then they're O line playing some really good ball

495
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Speaker 12: as well, and then the running back Cook been knowing

496
00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 12: him for very long times, and then guys on the

497
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,320
Speaker 12: outside who can make a lot of plays. But I

498
00:23:41,359 --> 00:23:43,200
Speaker 12: think it's going to be very simple for us. We

499
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Speaker 12: just got to stick to who we are as a group,

500
00:23:45,840 --> 00:23:48,600
Speaker 12: stopping to run and making those guys one dimensional. And

501
00:23:48,640 --> 00:23:51,320
Speaker 12: once you do that, it can create a long day

502
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:52,200
Speaker 12: for those guys.

503
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Speaker 5: You handled them pretty well earlier in this season. I

504
00:23:55,280 --> 00:23:57,840
Speaker 5: think it was Week four, you slowed down the run,

505
00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,160
Speaker 5: You got to Josh Allen a few times. How much

506
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:03,639
Speaker 5: of that when it happens that early in the season,

507
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 5: how much of that game can be carried over?

508
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Speaker 7: Right now?

509
00:24:07,480 --> 00:24:09,760
Speaker 12: That game was that game, and that's Week four, and

510
00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,960
Speaker 12: that was week four for a reason, we're not the

511
00:24:12,000 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 12: same team that we were back in Week four. I

512
00:24:14,560 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 12: looked at the film and I'm like, man, we was

513
00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,359
Speaker 12: playing like this, and I'm sure those guys feel the

514
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:21,560
Speaker 12: same way for themselves. So it's about coming out and

515
00:24:21,600 --> 00:24:24,000
Speaker 12: imposing all will on those guys from the first snap

516
00:24:24,040 --> 00:24:27,159
Speaker 12: to the last nap. It's very simple, making them one dimensional,

517
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 12: and that's what the run game is about, testing the

518
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,600
Speaker 12: guy's manhood. So those guys propt themselves on running the

519
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 12: ball and open up everything else for Josh Allen. So

520
00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:37,800
Speaker 12: we stopped that and it can be a long day

521
00:24:37,840 --> 00:24:40,160
Speaker 12: for those guys. So that's our primary focus, and once

522
00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:41,840
Speaker 12: we do that, it's going to be a long day.

523
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Speaker 12: But I'm very excited. We'll definitely get up there Saturday

524
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,400
Speaker 12: afternoon and we'll be there Sunday night.

525
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Speaker 1: Defensively, bro Quan, it feels like you guys are a

526
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,119
Speaker 1: different team in the back half of the season. Obviously

527
00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,840
Speaker 1: you had a change when Mike McDonald leaves Zach Orr

528
00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 1: takes over young coordinator on that side of the ball,

529
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Speaker 1: it was a little bit bumpy at times. The numbers

530
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: you can see him right here. They show that what's

531
00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:03,680
Speaker 1: flipped for you guys in the past couple of months

532
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,280
Speaker 1: here where it seems like you're playing some of your

533
00:25:05,320 --> 00:25:05,760
Speaker 1: best ball.

534
00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:09,399
Speaker 12: Absolutely, I think it first start with first, this defense

535
00:25:09,480 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 12: is a battle test. That defense like have been through adversity,

536
00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 12: so knows what it's like to be on that side

537
00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:17,120
Speaker 12: and to come out on the other side after going

538
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,600
Speaker 12: through adversity. And I think it's just a switch where

539
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:21,320
Speaker 12: each and every guy had to look themselves in the

540
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,919
Speaker 12: mirror and say, hey, am I doing my part to

541
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 12: make this the best defense that I can possibly make

542
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Speaker 12: this be. And that's a question that each and every

543
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 12: guy had to ask themselves as well as with the

544
00:25:30,640 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 12: coach calling players out, whether that's myself, other star players

545
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 12: on the defense, to make everybody raise their standard to

546
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 12: be exactly who they are and do your job.

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Speaker 4: And that's what I think.

548
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Speaker 12: It all came down to doing your job play in

549
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 12: and play out and not getting complacent. And I think

550
00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:49,639
Speaker 12: once we did that, man, it's just like it turned

551
00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:51,639
Speaker 12: and like we just truly showing who we are. But

552
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 12: I tell everyone, we're just getting started. We're not done yet.

553
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Speaker 5: We can't let you go without asking about Lamar Jackson

554
00:25:58,600 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 5: because so much of the attention on the matchup.

555
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:02,800
Speaker 7: Josh versus Lamar.

556
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:04,880
Speaker 1: You see Lamar every day.

557
00:26:05,480 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 5: He is probably going to win his third MVP Award

558
00:26:09,320 --> 00:26:12,120
Speaker 5: in a few weeks coming up here. How has his

559
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,080
Speaker 5: game continued to get better to the point where this

560
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:18,000
Speaker 5: year he is setting all time records for quarterbacks.

561
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Speaker 12: Absolutely, I got a great deal of respect for Lamar

562
00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,159
Speaker 12: who he is as a person and as a player

563
00:26:23,200 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 12: as well, and the type of stuff that he's doing

564
00:26:25,960 --> 00:26:29,200
Speaker 12: this year is like mom boggling, just like watching him

565
00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:31,159
Speaker 12: how he can beat you from the pocket, beat you

566
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:31,680
Speaker 12: from his leg.

567
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Speaker 4: I've never seen it downe before.

568
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Speaker 12: I've played against a lot of quarterbacks in this league,

569
00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 12: and what he's doing, no other quarterback is doing. And

570
00:26:39,080 --> 00:26:41,959
Speaker 12: it's not me just talking. If anybody watches tape, they

571
00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 12: can see it as well. So I'm very excited that

572
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:47,120
Speaker 12: he's on my team, and I'm very excited for him to.

573
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Speaker 4: Show the world with everyone watching.

574
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Speaker 12: On Sunday, exactly who he is and what type of

575
00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 12: player he is from the first nap to the last nap.

576
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Speaker 4: So get your popcorn ready, real, Quolt.

577
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Speaker 1: We always love having you on this show because you're

578
00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: such a cerebral guy. The way that you talk about

579
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,120
Speaker 1: the game, the way that you talk about life, it's

580
00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:07,520
Speaker 1: really interesting to us. We learn a lot. I also

581
00:27:07,560 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 1: watch that pregame speech and like, I'm not convinced that's

582
00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: the same guy, Like you go full caveman mode at

583
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 1: that point. It is hunt and kill. How do you

584
00:27:16,960 --> 00:27:20,400
Speaker 1: go about be coming from this guy to that guy

585
00:27:20,440 --> 00:27:22,320
Speaker 1: when it comes to actually playing the game.

586
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, I think it's very simple.

587
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:30,680
Speaker 12: I just oftentimes think about like where I'm from how

588
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:33,040
Speaker 12: much the game has given me and the game has

589
00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:36,000
Speaker 12: done for me throughout my career, the places I've been,

590
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,640
Speaker 12: the people that I've met, and oftentimes when I'm out there,

591
00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 12: the opposing team is trying to take that away from

592
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 12: me and my guys, everything that we work so hard for.

593
00:27:44,760 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 12: And it's basically like hey, turning on a switch of saying, Hey,

594
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 12: these guys are trying to come take over everything we

595
00:27:51,000 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 12: worked hard for, that you provided for your family, putting

596
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,399
Speaker 12: food on your family plate, and you're going to just

597
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,240
Speaker 12: let these guys come and do that, not on.

598
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:00,639
Speaker 4: My turf, not on my watch. I think like that

599
00:28:00,840 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: very often.

600
00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:03,960
Speaker 12: I try to impose that onto those guys and then

601
00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,639
Speaker 12: also let the guys know that that's what we're on

602
00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,479
Speaker 12: and we're going to be on that every snap and

603
00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,760
Speaker 12: make a guy quit at the end of the day.

604
00:28:11,320 --> 00:28:13,480
Speaker 5: Just to bring it back to the Walter Payton Man

605
00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:15,639
Speaker 5: of the Year Award before we let you go, what

606
00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:17,679
Speaker 5: would it mean to you to win that award?

607
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 4: Broke On, Yeah, that war would mean the world to me.

608
00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 12: Just knowing the Walter Payton family from being in Chicago

609
00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 12: and just knowing what that name means around the NFL.

610
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 4: Community and how much great work he.

611
00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 12: Did throughout the cities in Chicago, the towns in Chicago,

612
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,960
Speaker 12: as well as the other counties as well. But at

613
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 12: the end of the day, I think, more often than

614
00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,640
Speaker 12: I regardless if I win award or not, I will

615
00:28:41,720 --> 00:28:44,040
Speaker 12: continue to do my great work in the community because

616
00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 12: that's the reason that I do it for the kids,

617
00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 12: the different families to bring smiles on their faces.

618
00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:51,240
Speaker 4: But just to have that award associated.

619
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Speaker 12: With your name means the world on myself, and I

620
00:28:52,440 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 12: would take great pride in that, and I would just

621
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,840
Speaker 12: continue to do the great work that I've been doing

622
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:57,760
Speaker 12: throughout my career.

623
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Speaker 1: NFL Honors Thursday February in New Orleans. That's where the

624
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:02,720
Speaker 1: Walter Payton Man of the Hear and all the other

625
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: big NFL awards will be given out. I would say

626
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,480
Speaker 1: Roquand that I'm excited to maybe see you on stage

627
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:09,160
Speaker 1: getting that award. It'd be a lot better if you

628
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:11,320
Speaker 1: got to zoom in from the hotel and actually be

629
00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,960
Speaker 1: in the game. That's clearly the best case scenario. You're

630
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,520
Speaker 1: not available for the awards. Show Man All starts this

631
00:29:16,600 --> 00:29:18,920
Speaker 1: week in Buffalo. Best luck, dude, stay healthy.

632
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:21,760
Speaker 4: Really appreciate you absolutely, Thank you guys so much.

633
00:29:22,040 --> 00:29:24,040
Speaker 5: When we return, we're going to talk about this guy.

634
00:29:24,200 --> 00:29:27,400
Speaker 5: Jayden Daniels, Stacey DALs, and Bucky Brooks are going to

635
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 5: join us to talk about the rookie sensation getting ready

636
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 5: to go up against the Detroit Lions on Saturday.

637
00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:44,120
Speaker 1: Coming up on the Insiders, looking to send Washington into

638
00:29:44,160 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: the divisional round. Step good, hold down, kick on its way.

639
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:52,000
Speaker 12: It is good.

640
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,600
Speaker 1: The Cardiac Commanders are the clutch Commanders.

641
00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:58,320
Speaker 5: They do it again.

642
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:04,000
Speaker 6: We'll see you try kicks at the dog.

643
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:11,760
Speaker 7: Who was concerned.

644
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,960
Speaker 1: Somebody who's gonna hurt themselves there in the booth.

645
00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 5: With that celebration, Stacy Dal's and Bucky Brooks join us

646
00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 5: to talk about the Saturday night game, the Lions versus

647
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 5: the Commanders. Stacy, let me start with you. The Commanders

648
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 5: have averaged more points per game than any team in

649
00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 5: NFL history that has had a rookie quarterback, which is amazing.

650
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 5: But of course now they face the number one offense

651
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,200
Speaker 5: in the NFL. What is the confidence level that they

652
00:30:39,240 --> 00:30:42,640
Speaker 5: have with Jaden Daniels to keep up with the Lions offense.

653
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 7: Supremely confident.

654
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Speaker 13: I'm going to tell you what this this Washington team

655
00:30:47,680 --> 00:30:50,640
Speaker 13: being having spent time on the phone with them getting

656
00:30:50,680 --> 00:30:54,400
Speaker 13: ready for this game on Saturday night. There is connected

657
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 13: a group as well tooled in terms of the belief

658
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Speaker 13: that they have in their locker room. Dan Quinn has

659
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Speaker 13: absolutely changed the culture and this guy is at the

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Speaker 13: helmet it. And to your point, Judy, he is a

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Speaker 13: rookie quarterback. I'm using the term magical. It's been a

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Speaker 13: magical season for this young man. And we saw the

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Speaker 13: reaction when they beat the box right. Their last five

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Speaker 13: wins have come down to a last minute play. They

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Speaker 13: are the clutch commanders. And this Detroit team is on

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Speaker 13: high alert, folks, because they understand just.

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Speaker 7: How gifted he is. We know what he can do

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Speaker 7: with his arm. We know he can do his legs.

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Speaker 13: But I talk to players, including Jonathan Allen from their

670
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Speaker 13: defensive line, who's seen everything in Washington for eight seasons.

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Speaker 13: He's been there the entirety of his career. He told

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Speaker 13: me this week that when you have JD. Five on

673
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Speaker 13: your team, you always know you have a chance and

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Speaker 13: you're never out of it until the game is over.

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Speaker 7: That is the impact he has had, he said.

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Speaker 13: As a defense, we just have to give him opportunities

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Speaker 13: because he is going to give us a chance to

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Speaker 13: win games, and they've had what they call all these

679
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Speaker 13: Bucky winning time moments.

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Speaker 7: Magical. He has been as.

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Speaker 13: They get ready to go to Detroit, with a very

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Speaker 13: fearless attitude, Stacy.

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Speaker 10: I like in the comments that you hear from Jonathan

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Speaker 10: Allen and some of his teammates to when I was

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Speaker 10: playing in Green Bay in the middle of Brett Vahr's

686
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Speaker 10: three MVP run, playing on defense, we used to always

687
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Speaker 10: talk about, if we just get number four the ball back,

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Speaker 10: we have a chance.

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Speaker 3: And that's what it seems is going on in Washington.

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Speaker 10: They know that their quarterback, a young quarterback, a rookie quarterback,

691
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Speaker 10: is clutch. He has the ability to make these plays

692
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Speaker 10: and pull rabbits out of hats, and we've seen it

693
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Speaker 10: time and time again. That changes the entire belief of

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Speaker 10: the franchise because you know that because your quarterback has shown.

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Speaker 3: That he can get it done.

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Speaker 10: Man, everyone plays a little harder, everyone believes a little longer.

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Speaker 10: All of those things are because you hit it on

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Speaker 10: the quarterback, and make no mistake, going into the next

699
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Speaker 10: year's draft, people are going to be looking for the

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Speaker 10: next Jayden Daniels in terms of the experience, because that

701
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Speaker 10: experience has turned into expertise, and we've seen the expertise

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Speaker 10: play out right away in his first season as a start.

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Speaker 5: All right, Stacey, you are around the Detroit Lions an

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Speaker 5: awful lot. They have been really a super Bowl favorite

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Speaker 5: since the start of the season. How are they keeping

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Speaker 5: their focus though, on just taking the first step this weekend?

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Speaker 13: Well, it starts with Dan Campbell. It always has, and

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Speaker 13: you know he said this week, Listen, I've been to

709
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Speaker 13: a super Bowl historically in the past and lost the Super.

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Speaker 7: Bowl, and we're not going there.

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Speaker 13: The Detroit Lions franchise has never even been to a

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Speaker 13: super Bowl.

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Speaker 7: But they're not looking beyond this week. I can assure you.

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Speaker 13: I mentioned the high alert comment because they know this

715
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Speaker 13: is a very dangerous Washington Commander's team. I spoke with

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Speaker 13: Levi ownserique from the offense or the defensive line excuse

717
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Speaker 13: me today and he told me, coming out of their

718
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Speaker 13: buy remember the number one seed, they have been revitalized

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Speaker 13: and so getting a little bit healthier. One of those

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Speaker 13: guys they're getting back in full capacity this week is

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Speaker 13: the running back David Montgomery. We'll see what kind of

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Speaker 13: a snap that he gets coming back from that knee injury,

723
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Speaker 13: and given how well Jamier Gibbs has played coming off

724
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Speaker 13: those four touchdowns from the Vikings Week eighteen victory. But

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Speaker 13: as you guys know, it all starts with the quarterback,

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Speaker 13: Jared Goff and that offensive line. And again I mentioned

727
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Speaker 13: John Allen from the Commanders.

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Speaker 7: He told me, like the hype is real.

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Speaker 13: This guy's a former number one overall pick at the

730
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Speaker 13: quarterback position for a reason.

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Speaker 7: He's driving the ball downfield. He has incredible command of

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Speaker 7: his huddle.

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Speaker 13: And so the key for this commander's group is going

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Speaker 13: to be to win the line of scrimmage because we

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Speaker 13: know how good Detroit's offensive line is, and in order

736
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Speaker 13: to get to the quarterback and to stop this run

737
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Speaker 13: game that's a top five rushing offense for the Lions,

738
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Speaker 13: you've got to win the line of scrimmage. As Alan

739
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Speaker 13: told me, we have to create a new line of

740
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Speaker 13: scrimmage on Saturday night. It'll be an interesting battle up

741
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Speaker 13: front and it's going to be extremely loud. Snapcount is

742
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Speaker 13: going to be critical for the Commanders. I spoke with

743
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Speaker 13: Tyler Biattish, their starting center, and he told me like

744
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 13: the belief and the trust they have with that team,

745
00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 13: and then it's always important, but especially in an environment

746
00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,040
Speaker 13: like this, will be just paramount for them to deal

747
00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:18,360
Speaker 13: with the crowd noise at Ford Field on Saturday.

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Speaker 5: Can't wait to watch this game, Stacy, Thank you, Bucky.

749
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Speaker 5: Don't go anywhere because when we return on The Insiders,

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Speaker 5: you're going to be back and Cam Wolf is going

751
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Speaker 5: to join us to talk about this game. The absolute blockbuster,

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Speaker 5: maybe the game of the year. Ravens Bills Sunday night.

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Speaker 1: What a matchup on Sunday Night, Lamar Jackson, Josh Allen

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Speaker 1: The Showdown six thirty pm Eastern Time, wrapping up divisional

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Speaker 1: playoff weekend. The winner of that game, anyone, happens with

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs, but realistically quite possibly going to Kansas City.

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Speaker 1: Welcome back to The Insiders. Tom Pelicero, now joined by

758
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Speaker 1: Cameron Wolf. Bucky Brooks is back as well.

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Speaker 7: Cam.

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Speaker 1: This is maybe the game of the season, the game

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Speaker 1: of multiple seasons in terms of the magnitude least externally

762
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Speaker 1: around it. How are Lamar and Josh handling the pressure

763
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Speaker 1: that goes with this one?

764
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Speaker 11: Tom definitely the game of the playoffs so far, and

765
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Speaker 11: maybe throughout the whole period. I can't wait to be

766
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:26,040
Speaker 11: there in Orchard Park on Sunday. But both quarterbacks are

767
00:36:26,040 --> 00:36:29,480
Speaker 11: trying their best to downplay this game. The reality is

768
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Speaker 11: this is the MVP front runner, both the guys who

769
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Speaker 11: are probably gonna finish one and two.

770
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Speaker 1: It's about legacy.

771
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Speaker 11: It's about who makes that next step in their career,

772
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,440
Speaker 11: chasing Patrick Mahomes and those Chiefs, and they both know

773
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 11: they have doubters even being among that elite group. Josh

774
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,040
Speaker 11: Allen said this week, this is why you play the

775
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 11: game to be in moments like this. He knows who's

776
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 11: on the other side against the Ravens. But the reality

777
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:55,400
Speaker 11: for Buffalo is they've lost three straight Divisional wildcard playoff

778
00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,840
Speaker 11: games and he played well in them, but they still lost.

779
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 11: This version of Josh, I said I've watched much of

780
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 11: the year, is different. He's less reckless. He's playing with

781
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 11: the double of trust. His tight end Dawson Knox told

782
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:07,479
Speaker 11: me trust is the key word.

783
00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:08,200
Speaker 1: He said.

784
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Speaker 11: We always see Josh put the cape on, be the superhero,

785
00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,520
Speaker 11: but we only see this small doses. This year, he's

786
00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:15,960
Speaker 11: having a different level of trust in us and it's

787
00:37:15,960 --> 00:37:18,239
Speaker 11: making us a better team. And trust is the word

788
00:37:18,239 --> 00:37:20,520
Speaker 11: you could use for Lamar Jackson as well. He said,

789
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 11: hell yeah. He still remembers the twenty twenty playoff loss

790
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:25,920
Speaker 11: he had to the Bills. He saw his pick six

791
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 11: on social media earlier today and it just made him smirk.

792
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:31,399
Speaker 11: He noted that Josh Allen is not his friend. He said,

793
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:33,800
Speaker 11: he's trying to beat him. He said, maybe we'll laugh

794
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 11: a little later in our careers about these things, but

795
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 11: right now, it's about the competition. For Lamar, it's going

796
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:40,759
Speaker 11: to be about feeding the ball to Derrick Henry. They

797
00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 11: had two hundred ninety nine rushing yards against the Steelers

798
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Speaker 11: last week. Trusting him and Derrick Henry are enough to

799
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Speaker 11: get it done. Last year we saw against the Chiefs

800
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,000
Speaker 11: and the playoffs they got away from who they are.

801
00:37:51,120 --> 00:37:53,640
Speaker 11: They've talked about who we are is enough to get

802
00:37:53,640 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 11: the win this week.

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Speaker 4: I love it.

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Speaker 10: I love hearing all the conversation about Joshyellen and Lamar Jackson.

805
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 10: Going back to the twenty eighteen draft, both guys we

806
00:38:01,040 --> 00:38:03,880
Speaker 10: are polarizing figures based on their playing style and some

807
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 10: of the numbers that they put up in college respectively.

808
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,719
Speaker 3: Now we're talking about two of the best quarterbacks in

809
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 3: the league.

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00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 10: They've only been three quarterbacks in NFL history that have

811
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 10: put up forty total touchdowns, rushed from more than five

812
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Speaker 10: hundred yards, and had fewer than seven interceptions. And there

813
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 10: are these two guys that are playing in the game.

814
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Speaker 10: Josh Allen has done it this year. Lamar Jackson did

815
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,440
Speaker 10: it this year in twenty nineteen. So you're talking about

816
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 10: the new era of elite quarterback play and it looks

817
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 10: different than we ever had.

818
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,920
Speaker 3: I can't wait to see how these athletic.

819
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Speaker 10: Playmakers continue to change the game while also helping their

820
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,239
Speaker 10: team get closer to Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: When these teams met earlier in the season, cam it

822
00:38:40,320 --> 00:38:42,799
Speaker 1: was a twenty five point win for the Ravens. What

823
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,520
Speaker 1: has changed since then?

824
00:38:44,719 --> 00:38:47,200
Speaker 11: Yeah, Josh Allen said today, we're a pretty together unit.

825
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:49,800
Speaker 11: We weren't that group early in the season and right now.

826
00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:53,319
Speaker 11: Our biggest fears letting each others down. Big key in

827
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,200
Speaker 11: that game was they were on the road. This year,

828
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 11: they'll be at home where they're nine to oh this season.

829
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Speaker 11: Temperatures are going to be in the single digit by

830
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Speaker 11: game time, and they believe they have a home field advantage.

831
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,239
Speaker 3: If you've ever been to Orchard Park.

832
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Speaker 11: They start playing mister Brightside in the fourth quarter, and

833
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 11: Josh Allen said it gives us a different level of

834
00:39:09,320 --> 00:39:12,720
Speaker 11: energy in boost. It's also the healthiest they've been all season.

835
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Speaker 11: In that Week four game, they didn't have Matt Mulonald,

836
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 11: Toron Johnson, Treau Bernard. They're all playing this week, and

837
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 11: Matt Mulonald in particular. I watched them at the game

838
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,560
Speaker 11: against the Broncos last week, flying around the ball, making plays.

839
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:26,960
Speaker 11: The healthiest he's been in two years, and he could

840
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 11: play a big factor trying to control Lamar Jackson's legs.

841
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:33,319
Speaker 11: The other element the Bills O line was dominant last

842
00:39:33,320 --> 00:39:36,439
Speaker 11: week physical dominance. The Ravens are not the only team

843
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 11: that have a strong run game. The Bills, with Dion

844
00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 11: Dawkins and Spencer Brown and Osiris Toawrence, believe they can

845
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 11: control the line of scrimmage up front and they hope

846
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 11: to do that on Sunday. Bucky.

847
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,320
Speaker 1: So many great plays through the course of this season

848
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:51,759
Speaker 1: for the Bills offense. That failed reverse end around where

849
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:54,320
Speaker 1: Josh Allen gets hit. That has to be the worst

850
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:57,320
Speaker 1: play on tape for throw that one out, Joe Brady,

851
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 1: don't run that this week. It's going to be a

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Speaker 1: lot of fun on Bucky Camp, thank you very much.

853
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Speaker 1: Alo's gonna be a fun one Saturday night in Detroit

854
00:40:05,200 --> 00:40:09,320
Speaker 1: Lions and Commanders, where that guy number five, Jayden Daniels

855
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 1: has a chance to take down like all the records.

856
00:40:12,920 --> 00:40:21,520
Speaker 1: We'll explain after this on the Insiders. Head coaches have

857
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:24,000
Speaker 1: been selected for the Reese's Senior Bowl, which is just

858
00:40:24,000 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks away in Mobile, Alabama. Giants OC

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Speaker 1: Mike Kafka and brown Special teams coordinator Bubba vin Trone

860
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Speaker 1: will lead those teams. Not a coincidence here, those the

861
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:36,160
Speaker 1: Giants and Browns. They draft two to three. They both

862
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Speaker 1: need a quarterback and we got like a handful of

863
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Speaker 1: the top ones heading down. There going to be a

864
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Speaker 1: fun week as always in Mobile. They can only hope

865
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Speaker 1: that one of those guys ends up being as good

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Speaker 1: as this year's number two overall draft pick Jaden Daniels,

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Speaker 1: who became just one of four rookie quarterbacks to win

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Speaker 1: a road playoff game. Can he make it too and

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Speaker 1: can he take down all these other records? Look at this,

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Speaker 1: I got the number of things here, Judy that Jadanuels

871
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Speaker 1: can do. This is I don't even know this is

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Speaker 1: the full list. I'm sure there's other stuff too.

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Speaker 5: I mean, most offensive tds in a rookie season including

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Speaker 5: the playoffs. I mean he needs four, which would be

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Speaker 5: a lot against the Lions, But that's pretty amazing. Like

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Speaker 5: when you think of all the quarterbacks like Peyton Manning,

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Speaker 5: like all of those guys didn't have more offensive tds

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Speaker 5: in the rookie season like this.

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Speaker 3: He's had an amazing season.

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Speaker 6: I think we're like just so spoiled because we had

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Speaker 6: CJ's drown last year and Jane Daniels this year, and

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Speaker 6: so like all of those things should be impossible, except

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Speaker 6: Jane Daniels is right here because of the rookie season

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Speaker 6: that he had, and I'm looking forward to seeing more.

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Speaker 6: It's gonna be a fun one this weekend tomorrow on the.

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Speaker 1: Show at Lions safety Brian Brandt and Rams quarter Kobe Durant.

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Speaker 1: You here, send be amme Eastern. See you