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Speaker 1: our Patreon channel and the Creative Control Network. I didn't
Speaker 1: know by now. My name is Chad, and every single
Speaker 1: week I'm of course joined here by my running mate,
Speaker 1: my great passenger for many hours on the road, V
Speaker 1: one and only Queen of Extreme Francine. Yes, hello everyone.
Speaker 1: I hope everybody's having a great day so far. And
Speaker 1: you know, even though I almost died this weekend coming
Speaker 1: home with Chad, I must say he kept us cool.
Speaker 1: The driving situation that was a little scary. You know,
Speaker 1: these no offense to anyone who lives in New York,
Speaker 1: because I love all people equally. But good lord, where
Speaker 1: do you people learn how to dry? No? I forgot
Speaker 1: that until you just mentioned. Oh, you know, everything was
Speaker 1: peachy Keene until we came home and the GPS started
Speaker 1: taking us through parking lots and school districts and whatnot.
Speaker 1: And there was like a roundabout gimmick that had forty
Speaker 1: two different lights, and we were literally boxed in because
Speaker 1: the lane next to us went straight, but no, no
Speaker 1: one went straight. They kept turning and cutting us off
Speaker 1: and there. I mean, if we tried to go, we
Speaker 1: would have got side swiped. I was like practically pooping
Speaker 1: my pants. I was so su I was very nervous.
Speaker 1: I was holding on for dear life. But I said,
Speaker 1: if this was me driving, I would have just stopped
Speaker 1: the car and cried and somebody would have had to
Speaker 1: push me out of there. But Cat keok to school,
Speaker 1: even though it took about ten minutes. It took ten
Speaker 1: minutes to go like this, to go literally down the
Speaker 1: street left and back down on the street. That yeah,
Speaker 1: ten minutes at least. But I think what caused your
Speaker 1: angst about the whole thing was when people started getting
Speaker 1: out of the cars, yes, and yelling at everybody. People
Speaker 1: were they started beeping, which, okay, you're beeping, but like
Speaker 1: laying on the horse louas loud beaps, like for like
Speaker 1: five minutes to guy, and I'm like, dude. And then
Speaker 1: they would get out and they were screaming at each
Speaker 1: other and I'm like, oh my god, what if somebody
Speaker 1: gets road range and pulls it out of machety starts
Speaker 1: swinging or a gun or a taser. I the scene
Speaker 1: in uh the Griswolds, what is that National Lampoon's vacation
Speaker 1: where throw them up? We had him up weed to
Speaker 1: do this, to put him up? Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: was so I was so scared. But I have to
Speaker 1: compliment you. You You got us out of there. You were
Speaker 1: very calm. I there would have been uh, debris all
Speaker 1: over the car, defecation everywhere. I was so nervous and
Speaker 1: it was horrible. And h I hate driving in New York,
Speaker 1: love visiting, love working, hate the driving. So Chad didn't
Speaker 1: I have to put him over. He didn't. I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: And it's nice in Long Island where we got to
Speaker 1: go on like back roads and it was like very
Speaker 1: easy to navigate through and get me get to go,
Speaker 1: you know a couple of restaurants, do this, do that,
Speaker 1: and go where we needed to go. It then like
Speaker 1: you know the Cross Bronx Expressway, I think the Major Degan,
Speaker 1: the Tribe Borough Bridge, all these different routes. It was
Speaker 1: taking us on. Not not fun, but Hey, come on,
Speaker 1: that's where I'm from. I know not how to navigation.
Speaker 1: Thank god you did, because that's why, you know, people
Speaker 1: want to book me all the time in New York.
Speaker 1: And if I don't have a partner to go with,
Speaker 1: I'm not going. I will stay home and be safe
Speaker 1: in my own house, Thank you very much. Well, and
Speaker 1: the chadser will not be going to New York anytime soon.
Speaker 1: So it's a wrap for me as far as the
Speaker 1: New York schedule goes. Now, our guest has already arrived.
Speaker 1: Oh okay, so you know what. We'll talk about our
Speaker 1: weekend later on. We'll pause that. But this is a
Speaker 1: gentleman that I had met through the duo of Myers
Speaker 1: and Cardona, and he's part of the Major Figure podcast universe.
Speaker 1: Captain Joe Shoes, you're not muted anywhere. Look at this man.
Speaker 1: Can you just tell me? Is there a better gimmick?
Speaker 1: Make sure worth a thousand words? For sure? I absolutely
Speaker 1: fell in love the night I did the live Uh
Speaker 1: was it nine Live? Nine? Yeah? It was. It seems
Speaker 1: like many moons ago that you and I laid our
Speaker 1: eyes on each other. It was. What's actually funny is
Speaker 1: you and I actually first met in Oh gee, I
Speaker 1: did it again two thousand and one, maybe again, I apologize.
Speaker 1: Where was I was a I was a very young,
Speaker 1: green aspiring professional wrestler, and Jack Sabbath brought you into
Speaker 1: ICW at the time. You just did one shot there,
Speaker 1: But I want to say it was November two thousand
Speaker 1: and one. Was that what match striker? Probably because I
Speaker 1: believe I managed Matt on one of his shoes, that
Speaker 1: would make sense. Okay, Well, I apologize that I didn't.
Speaker 1: I don't expect you to remember, especially from then. I was.
Speaker 1: I'm no one now, but I remember me now. Listen,
Speaker 1: you were somebody back then, and you're certainly somebody now.
Speaker 1: So the problem that I have about our encounter because
Speaker 1: I know, before we get into your whole story, because
Speaker 1: I want to know where about you? Of course, but
Speaker 1: we we co hosted that boozem with the toys gimmick,
Speaker 1: and I don't remember a lot about it. I know
Speaker 1: I was very charming and the ratings went through the roof.
Speaker 1: Had I remember people still talk about that. No do that?
Speaker 1: Yes they do. Well. I had a lot of my
Speaker 1: ties that evening. We all know this, I did, But
Speaker 1: it was The concept is great. Now. I didn't understand
Speaker 1: the concept when they they just kind of threw me
Speaker 1: and they said, would you go and do this thing
Speaker 1: while we sell our gimmicks. I said, yeah, sure, I'm
Speaker 1: just waiting around, right. I thought I was there to
Speaker 1: help sell merch for the boys. But that wasn't the case. No,
Speaker 1: not at all. People just wanted to you no, no, no, no.
Speaker 1: The point of the show I've heard. Yeah, I thought
Speaker 1: I was selling merchandise for your little company that you
Speaker 1: have going on. So I'm like trying to push I
Speaker 1: found the lanyard. I thought it was Matt Cardona's that
Speaker 1: I'm trying to sell it for like one hundred and
Speaker 1: twenty five. And he comes and sits next to me,
Speaker 1: and Matt's like ten bucks. What do you mean? Ten bucks?
Speaker 1: This is yours because we're not some miss And I
Speaker 1: was like, what is the point of this? Can you explain?
Speaker 1: I know you did a big show last night. I
Speaker 1: saw it all over Twitter. Explain the concept because you
Speaker 1: want fans to interact with you while you're all drinking
Speaker 1: and you're encouraging them to get some balls and actually
Speaker 1: buy their own items. Yeah, they were really wanting so
Speaker 1: the podcast and this is Matt and Brian's you know,
Speaker 1: big thing. It's turned into something bigger than I think
Speaker 1: anyone ever thought it could be at the time that
Speaker 1: it started. And this is just another way to engage
Speaker 1: the fans and hang out with them, have real, real
Speaker 1: time engagement, have a couple of drinks, and maybe make
Speaker 1: some purchases that you don't want to make while you're sober.
Speaker 1: Spend a little bit extra money that you don't want
Speaker 1: to spend while you're sober. Maybe there's something out there
Speaker 1: that you need to fill a collection that you just say,
Speaker 1: you know, this is just a little bit out of
Speaker 1: my league, but I really like this would be the
Speaker 1: real grail piece for me. And once you get a
Speaker 1: couple of Grandpa's old cough medicines inside you, then you
Speaker 1: you have the nerve to go and spend those bucks.
Speaker 1: So if I'm if I'm a fan okay, and I'm
Speaker 1: tuning in okay, and you're one of the hosts, and
Speaker 1: I say to you, good lord, I really really want
Speaker 1: that Captain Joe Shu's action figure. But my god, it's
Speaker 1: so expensive because it's so rare. It's one hundred dollars.
Speaker 1: Do you guys try to talk the person into buying
Speaker 1: it or absolutely talking. What we'll do at the beginning
Speaker 1: of the show is smart Mark Sterling will put out
Speaker 1: a post in the Patreon Facebook group and say, if
Speaker 1: there's anyone who's looking to make a purchase or there's
Speaker 1: something you think you're gonna buy, let us know and
Speaker 1: we'll try to bring you on the show. You know,
Speaker 1: similar to this. We'll we'll give them a link and
Speaker 1: whenever the opportunity strikes, will bring them live on the
Speaker 1: show with us and they can finalize that purchase while talking.
Speaker 1: We'll talk them right through it. There was the first
Speaker 1: time we ever did it. I actually talked a guy
Speaker 1: into buying a nine hundred dollars he man playset. What
Speaker 1: did you say to him? I convinced him that this
Speaker 1: was a staple a staple piece in the history of
Speaker 1: toy collecting. I thought it was going to be, you know,
Speaker 1: really like a historical piece, and I think the price
Speaker 1: is only going to go up, And truth be told,
Speaker 1: the price has gone up significantly on that. So you know,
Speaker 1: if you're buying it as an investment piece, he's done well.
Speaker 1: And if you're just buying it to fill a collection,
Speaker 1: it was one of those things if you if you
Speaker 1: need it to fill a collection. It was one of
Speaker 1: those things you can't be without. See. I remember falling
Speaker 1: over some Australian guy because he had a good Yes,
Speaker 1: he had a great accent. Yeah, okay, I remember that,
Speaker 1: and I just kept saying, can you just talk to
Speaker 1: me and tell me stories. I don't remember talking to
Speaker 1: anyone to about purchasing anything but that lanyard, which I
Speaker 1: did not sell, by the way. A lot of times
Speaker 1: what happens is we end up having such a good
Speaker 1: time just besing amongst ourselves, right and bringing in other people. Obviously,
Speaker 1: Matt and Brian have a lot of connections throughout the business.
Speaker 1: So a lot of times it's just we bring guests on,
Speaker 1: guests from the toy industry. We'll have Jeremy Padouer from
Speaker 1: Jazzuar's or some of the guys from Mattel or last
Speaker 1: night we had who did we have last night? Fandango
Speaker 1: came on, jumped down for a little bit. Okay, So
Speaker 1: just stuff like that. And you know, Fandango is not
Speaker 1: necessarily buying toys, but these people at their herd are
Speaker 1: wrestling fans, and we get some communication they get to
Speaker 1: interact a little bit with Fandango, maybe ask a question
Speaker 1: in the chat that we could bring up and get
Speaker 1: some answers on. So it's it's just fun for everyone involved.
Speaker 1: And when you were on it just became you and
Speaker 1: I really just bsing amongst ourselves, getting drunk and then
Speaker 1: yelling at people to bring us more my ties. I
Speaker 1: was calling Brian Myers my pool boy. Yes, well we
Speaker 1: had Kannick, who is their merch guy. And did you
Speaker 1: I saw him in that in a big event. Yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Kinnick is one of like the world's nicest people, and
Speaker 1: you and I were like screaming in his face, go
Speaker 1: get us some ties. What are you waiting for, little
Speaker 1: Todd Cordon. I'm so sorry. No, Kannick is great. I
Speaker 1: saw him in passing. He came shook my hands, Matt
Speaker 1: came over to the table. We got to talk for
Speaker 1: a little bit. He's got to pay his respects to
Speaker 1: the queen, obviously he did so that was really nice
Speaker 1: of them. But this, this whole thing is becoming an empire.
Speaker 1: Like I told Brian, like I feel like you guys
Speaker 1: are going to be millionaires by the time you're forty
Speaker 1: years old. Like it's spreading like wildfire and it's great
Speaker 1: because everybody's so hard working. Who is in that little clique,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? They really they really got
Speaker 1: lucky with finding people who like good people willing to
Speaker 1: do the work and you know, not necessarily trying to
Speaker 1: just mooch or latch off them. I don't even get paid,
Speaker 1: Like I'm just Brian's friend who just keeps showing up
Speaker 1: and mike out. They haven't quite told me to stop
Speaker 1: coming yet, so well, who would, I mean, look at you.
Speaker 1: He got his first pin when I was there, and
Speaker 1: it was like he won the Academy Award. It was
Speaker 1: the thing I've ever seen because I I you know,
Speaker 1: when you think about this, I spent like twenty years
Speaker 1: in and around the business on the Indies, and it
Speaker 1: was during like the bad period after Vince had bought everything.
Speaker 1: There was nowhere to go, nowhere to work. A big
Speaker 1: crowd on the Indies went from like a thousand during
Speaker 1: the Attitude era, where now all of a sudden, a
Speaker 1: big show was like, oh we got one hundred and
Speaker 1: fifty people at this hall in Jersey and the business
Speaker 1: just collapsed upon itself. There was especially with all the
Speaker 1: guys from the other two companies who didn't get signed
Speaker 1: to deals. Now they're flooding the indies. You had guys
Speaker 1: on the indies who had nowhere to go and progress.
Speaker 1: So it just became like this cattle call for every
Speaker 1: indie show where you could see every guy on every show.
Speaker 1: And like, I never was a top guy. I had
Speaker 1: like a little run where I got a little bit
Speaker 1: more over in certain areas. But the fact that someone
Speaker 1: took the time and like to surprise me with it,
Speaker 1: like it was total. They cafeed the hell out of
Speaker 1: me on that. So yeah, it was I was touched
Speaker 1: for you. I mean it was kind of like the
Speaker 1: same with the little micro Brawler thing, Like I didn't
Speaker 1: expect to get that because Brian had told me they
Speaker 1: got me eight y tens. I was like, oh, that's
Speaker 1: a nice gift, very very nice. And then that came
Speaker 1: up and I didn't even know what the micro bowl was.
Speaker 1: I was like, hey, I have another little figure. How cute,
Speaker 1: And it's a it's a touching thing to be acknowledged.
Speaker 1: I don't look at my like I'm not part of
Speaker 1: the show. I look at myself as like a if
Speaker 1: you think of their show. Like the Simpsons. You have
Speaker 1: the Simpsons, and the show always focuses around the five Simpsons,
Speaker 1: but every now and then you have these side characters.
Speaker 1: You have a supporting cast. Yes, So I look at
Speaker 1: myself as the Bumblebee Man of the Major Wrestling Figure podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm not a Simpson. I'll never be a Simpson, but
Speaker 1: every once in a while I get to step in,
Speaker 1: I say ya ya Mutossa, and then I leave exit
Speaker 1: stage left. You're like, he had his moments show. Let's
Speaker 1: make you MO. Yeah, I man is good, though that's
Speaker 1: a that's a discount Bumblebe Man's contributions. MO. Most this
Speaker 1: guy is part of the crew. I consider you. I
Speaker 1: think Conneck is part of the crew. I'm trying to
Speaker 1: think that night. Like the kids who picked me up.
Speaker 1: I hate to say it's because they're grown men, but
Speaker 1: I feel like Stang, I believe was one of them.
Speaker 1: Every time I see pictures of a group, you're all
Speaker 1: in them. So I consider you guys. Like if I
Speaker 1: think I think of three names, obviously I think of Brian,
Speaker 1: I think of Matt, and I think of Mark. I
Speaker 1: think of those three. But if you want to talk
Speaker 1: about everybody, who's a part of this. You're always in there,
Speaker 1: so you are part of that crew. So don't sell
Speaker 1: yourself short on that. It's just one of those things.
Speaker 1: I just try to kind of keep it in line,
Speaker 1: like not like it's fun. I love doing it, but
Speaker 1: at the same time, like I try to keep it
Speaker 1: in balance, like I'm Yeah, more people follow me on
Speaker 1: Twitter now, which is fun. More people watch my YouTube stuff,
Speaker 1: which is fun. When people listen to my podcast, which
Speaker 1: is we're going to get to all that. But you
Speaker 1: said twenty years ago, Yeah, when did you enter this
Speaker 1: wacky world of two thousand and one? Uh so, who
Speaker 1: trained you? Johnny Rods? Well, I shouldn't say that, because
Speaker 1: Johnny Rods doesn't train anyone. He sits in his office
Speaker 1: and shines jewelry. Like, if if anyone out there is
Speaker 1: listening to this, do not go to Johnny Rodd's school.
Speaker 1: It's a waste of money. You'll never do anything, and
Speaker 1: it sucks. He really is unpredictable. Huh No, it's just
Speaker 1: completely predictable. Now, you know. I had like colleagues of
Speaker 1: mine that praised Johnny Rodgs well, like the Dreamers and
Speaker 1: the tazz Is and the Devons, went Johnny's. Under a
Speaker 1: different time, Johnny would be in the ring with you.
Speaker 1: Johnny would be working with you. Now he's I mean
Speaker 1: when I started training Johnny, Johnny would walk by the
Speaker 1: ring and oh, Paul, you do the flaw kick, and
Speaker 1: like he doesn't know anything about the business. So who
Speaker 1: actually trained you? There was a guy named mac Daddy
Speaker 1: Flex who was really the guy who trained me. And
Speaker 1: he did a lot of darks for w W and TNA,
Speaker 1: and so he had gotten out there a little bit.
Speaker 1: He was really the guy who took the time to
Speaker 1: train me. Okay, and my partner at the time was
Speaker 1: a guy named Joe So Delicious. We used to do
Speaker 1: a gimmick where it was like the uh, the Chris
Speaker 1: Farley Patrick Swayze Saturday Night Live skit. Yes, so my
Speaker 1: father was six ' five, jack to the gills, like, look,
Speaker 1: looks alone, he's TV ready, And then here I come
Speaker 1: this pudgy little couple stuffed with fluff, getting his head
Speaker 1: stuck in jars of honey. I was gonna say, were
Speaker 1: you the Patrick Swayze of the group? Well, I mean
Speaker 1: most people would assume that, but I was shocked to
Speaker 1: learn that I was wrong. Okay, So all right, so
Speaker 1: you start you train? Now where are You're not in
Speaker 1: Florida this time? Right, are your? Yeah? I grew up
Speaker 1: in New York. I grew up in Queen's training with
Speaker 1: Johnny in Brooklyn, worked a you know whatever I could
Speaker 1: get myself on, in all honesty, because at that point, once,
Speaker 1: once really that invasion angle happened, like I said, the
Speaker 1: indies just collapsed upon themselves, and companies stopped running. And
Speaker 1: the companies that continued to run really had their guys,
Speaker 1: and their guys weren't going anywhere at that point. So
Speaker 1: it became very difficult to get bookings unless you really
Speaker 1: had someone like, you know, unless you were really networking
Speaker 1: and you had someone willing to put their name out
Speaker 1: there for you or get you booked on a show
Speaker 1: or so, like I ended up, I'm driving to North
Speaker 1: Carolina for twenty bucks. I'm driving to Indiana for twenty
Speaker 1: any these stories, I hate hearing that and that, but
Speaker 1: that's that's all it was. I know, I know, but
Speaker 1: I just feel like if you're working, you should be complicated.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think things have gotten a lot better now,
Speaker 1: and I mean, I mean, the business is so wildly
Speaker 1: different now from Oh oh, of course it is, you know,
Speaker 1: and even by by the end of ECW, I'm sure
Speaker 1: it was wildly different from when you started. Well, I
Speaker 1: never did indies, Yeah, okay, I went straight to ECW.
Speaker 1: You know, I never wanted to be a wrestler. It
Speaker 1: was just something that kind of fell on my lap.
Speaker 1: I said, let me go to this school, see what's
Speaker 1: going on because I hated my job. But I never
Speaker 1: had that indy it's experience. It was like start it right,
Speaker 1: signing a contract. Here you go, so well, you didn't
Speaker 1: mis's much let me tell you that. But like now
Speaker 1: you see, like indies can support themselves, Indies can travel,
Speaker 1: indies can go on the road, Guys can build. You know,
Speaker 1: we didn't have social media back then to promote yourself
Speaker 1: or even the idea of selling merch was almost like
Speaker 1: heat from the boys, like unless you were at a
Speaker 1: certain level, like who is this greenhorn to be selling merch?
Speaker 1: Like nowadays, you're a moron if you don't show up
Speaker 1: at every show with a bag of merch with you, right,
Speaker 1: you have to. Yeah, it's just a different time, right,
Speaker 1: Just so the last twenty years, have you worked like
Speaker 1: consistently I worked pretty consistently up until about twenty thirteen,
Speaker 1: twenty fourteen, you know, and by pretty consistently, I mean
Speaker 1: once or twice a month some you know, sometimes my
Speaker 1: bookings would go off the chart and I'd get like
Speaker 1: three or four bookings. Sure, but uh, it was just
Speaker 1: we were stuck in a time too where everybody wanted
Speaker 1: that Ring of honor style. Like once that came into play,
Speaker 1: people forgot about characters, you know, because and plus that
Speaker 1: generation had grown up on the Seawan and Brett new
Speaker 1: generation where everything was Matt wrestling based and they want,
Speaker 1: you know, everybody wanted to be Sean or everyone wanted
Speaker 1: to be Brett, and I just wanted to be King
Speaker 1: Kong Bundy. So you know, like no, and I like
Speaker 1: I always you know, wrestling to me should be a
Speaker 1: variety show. You know. You should have your big fat guys,
Speaker 1: you should have your skinny guys. You should have you know,
Speaker 1: like the circus. Everyone compares it to the circus. So
Speaker 1: I've always thought that, and I think now you see
Speaker 1: that coming around a little bit more now, where like
Speaker 1: Cole Cabana was the first guy who did like comedy wrestling,
Speaker 1: you know, and did it really well, but now you
Speaker 1: have these character guys like Dan Housen. Dan Housen is
Speaker 1: a mammoth star and most people have never seen him wrestle,
Speaker 1: right right, Yeah, that's not a fan really, it's not.
Speaker 1: I just don't It's not my cup of tea. It's
Speaker 1: one of those things. I you know, I'm not like
Speaker 1: a purist. I'm not like a you know, I gotta
Speaker 1: watch these you know, catches, catch can classics. I just
Speaker 1: don't get it. But it also to me is you know,
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, maybe around the same age. Like,
Speaker 1: I just feel like it's passed me by. So I
Speaker 1: don't get it and I'm not trying to get it
Speaker 1: because it doesn't interest me. Yeah. I I don't even
Speaker 1: watch wrestling for the most part anymore. Obviously because of
Speaker 1: my connections to people within it and friends I've made
Speaker 1: it pops up in my social media feeds, so I
Speaker 1: have like an idea of what's going on. But I
Speaker 1: just I just don't enjoy it anymore. And I think
Speaker 1: a lot of it has as I've grown older. When
Speaker 1: you're a kid, everything seems huge to you. Every everyone
Speaker 1: has a chance to win the Royal Rumble, you know,
Speaker 1: like I'm nine years old. I really think the Barbarian
Speaker 1: this could be the year the Barbarian takes the room
Speaker 1: right there with you. And nowadays, being an adult and
Speaker 1: being around these people, they they don't they don't have
Speaker 1: that same presence, you know, And that's just age. I think,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not necessarily a taste. But I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not like wowed by like wow, that guy looks
Speaker 1: outside of like Lesnar, who's just a complete monster. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So I just feel like the business has passed me by.
Speaker 1: And rather than be someone who forces themselves to watch
Speaker 1: it just so they can moan about it on Twitter NonStop,
Speaker 1: I've just kind of detached myself slowly but surely. Yes
Speaker 1: see for me, I don't watch either, and I'm like you,
Speaker 1: I keep you know, with my friends obviously, and I
Speaker 1: see clips on Twitter and this and that. But like
Speaker 1: getting back to like the Dan Hausen character. I think
Speaker 1: he's interesting because it's so different and I love diversity
Speaker 1: and wrestling. If you, like you said earlier, if the
Speaker 1: same match is on the card eight times with nothing
Speaker 1: different to it, and every guy looks the same and
Speaker 1: every guy is doing a high fly dibitydo whatever it's boring.
Speaker 1: So I like the fact that this guy is creating
Speaker 1: something that hasn't been done before. To me, that's intriguing
Speaker 1: and that makes somebody like me who hasn't watched it
Speaker 1: want to see a clip of this guy work. What
Speaker 1: is he doing? Like? Where does this character go? You
Speaker 1: know what I mean? Like I like different stuff like that,
Speaker 1: quirky stuff. I love it. Yeah, and I always like
Speaker 1: the gaga I love haha. We tried to do it
Speaker 1: house shows, especially because we had free reign, and we
Speaker 1: tried to incorporate as much fun into our matches. I mean,
Speaker 1: TV's a different entity. You can't really screw its storylines,
Speaker 1: but we tried to make it as funny and as
Speaker 1: fun as we possibly can. So I love diversity in wrestling.
Speaker 1: I think it's great. I think he's hit a real
Speaker 1: comfort spot where he's been able to and his character
Speaker 1: has evolved. If you've seen where he started to where
Speaker 1: he is now, you know he at first, you know,
Speaker 1: he was just a guy with no face pain. He
Speaker 1: was Donovan dan Housen. He was just you know, generic
Speaker 1: wrestler number forty two on another indie show, okay, and
Speaker 1: then he be became this demon, and he was trying
Speaker 1: to incorporate all these horror aspects and then that's slowly
Speaker 1: morphed into this half demon, half mister Burns character. Yeah right,
Speaker 1: where like I would start watching the videos he would
Speaker 1: post on YouTube where he's talking about the rocket cars
Speaker 1: and and getting the best bags, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what he does, but I know I'm
Speaker 1: entertained by it exactly. I'm not alone. Makes me seek
Speaker 1: it out and continue watching, Like I would get bored
Speaker 1: at my shoot job and just like go on cameo
Speaker 1: and buy a cameo for him to say something to
Speaker 1: one of my friends, Like just because I was bored. Wow,
Speaker 1: I just thought it was fun. Okay, well look now
Speaker 1: getting off of him and talking about you again, You're
Speaker 1: doing lots of different things. I saw a clip of
Speaker 1: you the other day. You have a YouTube channel I do.
Speaker 1: You're a Disney Mark like me I am, which I
Speaker 1: love because that's just one more thing about us that
Speaker 1: we can connect on. I just took a trip. I
Speaker 1: was down there for fifteen days. And yeah, when you
Speaker 1: have children, there's there's a set uh at the fin
Speaker 1: I wouldn't know, I wouldn't understand. Got to get it.
Speaker 1: But you know, Gideon's is a favorite in our house,
Speaker 1: and this guy goes and buys every cookie that they have.
Speaker 1: He takes his bff, uh friend whatever she is, and
Speaker 1: they just go and sit there and they just eat
Speaker 1: cookies all day. And I want this life Florida. Turn
Speaker 1: my YouTube into just the Disney related thing where I
Speaker 1: just eat food and ride rides. That's all. That's that's
Speaker 1: what I aspire to be in life. I really do.
Speaker 1: I am. I always say I want to be so
Speaker 1: many things when I grow up, and and like I
Speaker 1: just turned forty and I'm still at that point, like
Speaker 1: I don't know yet what I want to be when
Speaker 1: I grow up. Okay, well you have time, but I
Speaker 1: keep thinking, whatever it is, I want to do it all.
Speaker 1: So during the pandemic, I was bored and I started
Speaker 1: a YouTube channel where I would just review crappy fast
Speaker 1: foods and I got a little bit of a following
Speaker 1: on there. And I've had a podcast where I just
Speaker 1: talk generic pop culture for probably a couple of years.
Speaker 1: So it's not for everyone, but for the people who
Speaker 1: like it, they come, they sit down, and they enjoy
Speaker 1: I love baseball. I'm a huge baseball fan. I used
Speaker 1: to be a baseball blogger, or to some extent I
Speaker 1: still am. I'm a member of the Internet Baseball Writers
Speaker 1: Association of America. You know, I wanted to be a wrestler.
Speaker 1: I started being a pro wrestler. I used to play
Speaker 1: soccer when I was a kid. At one point I
Speaker 1: was a Division one college scholarship athlete in soccer. You know,
Speaker 1: I've just I always like, if you've ever seen Zootopia,
Speaker 1: I'll make a Disney reference. I love Zoutopia. Judy Hops
Speaker 1: is one of my favorite Disney characters of all time.
Speaker 1: If you ask me my favorite Disney characters, it's Judy
Speaker 1: Hops and Gaston. And we'll get into Gaston in a second.
Speaker 1: But the whole premise she you know, she wants to
Speaker 1: try everything. And that's how I feel like my life
Speaker 1: should be. I want to try everything because if I like,
Speaker 1: there's no there's never a shame in trying and failing.
Speaker 1: But I do not want to wake up in fifteen
Speaker 1: twenty years and be like, ah, you know, I wish
Speaker 1: I would have tried this. I'd rather live with the
Speaker 1: knowledge that I failed rather than regret never trying. I
Speaker 1: love it. Yeah, why not. I mean, if you don't try,
Speaker 1: you never know no exactly. So which was your favorite cookie?
Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, I'm gonna I'm not gonna lie. I
Speaker 1: didn't get through the whole I didn't have time to
Speaker 1: watch the whole thing, but I did. I do know.
Speaker 1: You bought nine cookies and a piece of keke seven cookies,
Speaker 1: So at nine in the beginning, there was six cookies
Speaker 1: and that are like normal cookies. Then they have one
Speaker 1: that's like a monthly special. Oh okay, seven and a
Speaker 1: piece of cake. And I bought a piece of Oreo
Speaker 1: cake just because I saw it sitting on the shelf.
Speaker 1: And I'm right, I'm trying to prove to you that
Speaker 1: I did watch it. Little girls, she had longer hair.
Speaker 1: You were sitting at a table and it was beautiful outside.
Speaker 1: I didn't even know Gideon's was a thing. And she
Speaker 1: is like, I'm a Disney fan, but I'm not like
Speaker 1: that deep into it as some other people like to me.
Speaker 1: It's just it's just fun. It's just something to do.
Speaker 1: I live in Orlando. Why wouldn't I go and enjoy myself.
Speaker 1: Because I'm a big nostalgia guy as well, So every
Speaker 1: time I go to Magic Kingdom, say, I have very
Speaker 1: vivid memories of being six years old and going for
Speaker 1: the first time and be like, oh, I remember doing
Speaker 1: this with my cousin when I was six years old,
Speaker 1: and like having that trigger, like it puts you in
Speaker 1: that nice mental space. And I'm someone who deals with
Speaker 1: some mental health issues, and so I like trying to
Speaker 1: just be happy, you know, and just trying to make
Speaker 1: myself happy, and that's one of them. But so this girl, Courtney,
Speaker 1: she was like, dude, we really you have to try
Speaker 1: these cookies, Like you're a fat guy, you want to
Speaker 1: eat these cookies. And I was like, well, I detect
Speaker 1: no lies. So we get there. I have to get
Speaker 1: online because Gideons is one of those things that if
Speaker 1: you're not online at a certain time, you may miss
Speaker 1: the morning exclusive cookie may be sold out by the
Speaker 1: time you get in. So I go, I get to
Speaker 1: the register. I'm like, give me one of every cookie
Speaker 1: and a piece of that Oreo cake because that looks
Speaker 1: delightful and how cool is the register by the way
Speaker 1: with the fire, Oh my god. Right, So I almost
Speaker 1: felt bad because the whole premise of Gideon's I'm a
Speaker 1: big Harry Potter guy. I have the you guys can
Speaker 1: see it because this is on a where on video,
Speaker 1: but for the people listening at home, I have the
Speaker 1: the Deathly Hallows tattooed on my wrist, Big Harry Potter guy.
Speaker 1: So that the ambiance of Gideons very much reminds me
Speaker 1: of like a Hogwarts and the the g in the
Speaker 1: logo reminded me of the Gringotts Bank. And I just
Speaker 1: feel like you feel that kind of magic in the air,
Speaker 1: like almost like if you go to the Universal Hogwarts ride,
Speaker 1: almost like you're walking through the botwels of Hogwarts. And
Speaker 1: I was like, this is a place that I'm very
Speaker 1: happy to be in right now. So I get one
Speaker 1: of every cookie and I'm now in the video. I
Speaker 1: just eat a piece of each one to this and
Speaker 1: that's about a week ago. I still have I think
Speaker 1: three cookies left in mind. Yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: how much did you actually because they are thick, they're
Speaker 1: about a half a pound each, and I you know,
Speaker 1: like you say that and you go, oh, half a pound, Well,
Speaker 1: you know it's a big cookie. But I'm a big man,
Speaker 1: so I could put this down and that shouldn't be
Speaker 1: an issue. But my goodness, they are thick and delicious
Speaker 1: and wonderful. I'm even the cookie that I enjoyed. The
Speaker 1: least I still loved. So okay, let me ask favorite
Speaker 1: and least favorite. Favorite was the cookies and cream, the
Speaker 1: Oreo one. But I'm an Oreo apologist, so I like
Speaker 1: anything Oreo. I want all up and around my mouth. Right.
Speaker 1: Least favorite was the peanut butter crunch. Really okay, it's good,
Speaker 1: which is very one note. And then the girl Courtney
Speaker 1: in the video, she said, Hey, what you have to
Speaker 1: do is break off a piece of the peanut butter
Speaker 1: and then break off a piece of the triple chocolate
Speaker 1: cookie that we also had, and you put them together
Speaker 1: and it almost goes down like a peanut butter cup
Speaker 1: at that point. See, I am not the biggest chocolate person.
Speaker 1: I like it, I don't love it. I would rather
Speaker 1: have caramel than chocolate. So and they didn't have any caramel.
Speaker 1: They had the toffee, the toffee, the toffee chocolate chip. Yes,
Speaker 1: I enjoyed that one, but my favorite was the coffee cake.
Speaker 1: So that's that was her favorite as well. Yes, I
Speaker 1: saw that. I thought, I think that one was great.
Speaker 1: Oh it was delicious. It was so good, and we
Speaker 1: got the cookies and cream. My husband went twice when
Speaker 1: we were there. He was going to do a third time,
Speaker 1: and I was like, seriously. He left by himself off
Speaker 1: at eight o'clock in the morning to go be one
Speaker 1: of the first yes, because they opened at nine to
Speaker 1: let you into Disney Springs, and he started. The first
Speaker 1: day he was number three and the second day he
Speaker 1: was number five. And we had went to Disney Springs
Speaker 1: a couple of days before later in the day for dinner.
Speaker 1: The line was ridiculous and when we said, what is
Speaker 1: the wait, she said six and a half hours. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So we would have picked up our cookies at nine
Speaker 1: thirty at night. Absolutely not. I said we are not
Speaker 1: doing this. So he said, I'll just come, you know,
Speaker 1: in a couple of days. And he won at eight
Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning, and uh, he was. He was
Speaker 1: so good. It was so well. He loves those cookies.
Speaker 1: So even if we didn't, I feel like he still
Speaker 1: would have went and got them for himself. But my kid,
Speaker 1: after having them, I completely get it now. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: are wonderful, and especially when you don't live there, it
Speaker 1: becomes a thing like if we're here. We have to
Speaker 1: do it. We have to get it done. We have
Speaker 1: to get these damn cookies. Right. Yeah. How often you
Speaker 1: said you're an annual park passport? How often do you
Speaker 1: get to go? I go probably maybe like once or
Speaker 1: twice a month to one of the parks. I was
Speaker 1: just at Epcot a couple of weeks ago. Two weeks
Speaker 1: from now, I'm actually taking my mom to the Magic Kingdom.
Speaker 1: My mom is sixty five, never been to Disney at all. Oh,
Speaker 1: how fine. So they're getting ready, My parents are getting
Speaker 1: ready to move back to New York. They've had their
Speaker 1: fill of Florida. So I'm taking my mom with me.
Speaker 1: My dad's going up on his own because he has
Speaker 1: a disability, so he's being transported, but my mom is
Speaker 1: coming with me and she's gonna fly on her own
Speaker 1: back home to her new home. And I said, before
Speaker 1: you go, would you like to go to Disney World?
Speaker 1: Because this is probably going to be what's that? Are
Speaker 1: you going to log in? Of course? I don't know.
Speaker 1: I feel like it's one of the Well, we almost
Speaker 1: lost my mom a couple of years ago. She had
Speaker 1: a little bout with cancer. So as that was going on,
Speaker 1: there's a video on my YouTube which is YouTube dot
Speaker 1: com slash Joe Shoes if anyone's interested. My thirty ninth birthday,
Speaker 1: I surprised my parents by just showing up and I
Speaker 1: rebuilt my fourth birthday. So when I was four years old,
Speaker 1: I was a big he Man fan, so I went
Speaker 1: on eBay. I bought all the he Man birthday party
Speaker 1: decorations that were around in nineteen eighty five, decorated their
Speaker 1: house in the middle of the night, and bought on
Speaker 1: eBay the same like big gift that I got when
Speaker 1: I was four years old and gave it to myself
Speaker 1: for my birthday. And then I filmed basically like a
Speaker 1: forty five minute interview with my mom because I think
Speaker 1: I didn't know at the time if this was going
Speaker 1: to be the last opportunity I had to see my mom.
Speaker 1: That's that's really where we were at that point. Thanks
Speaker 1: Sina that it has been and she's so well, I'm
Speaker 1: not the religious type, so I I just I just think, okay, whatever.
Speaker 1: But we've you know, we've gotten out of the woods,
Speaker 1: but there's been ups and downs. But we did this
Speaker 1: interview where I just talked to her about life and
Speaker 1: you know, you know, what was it like when she
Speaker 1: met me? Like, at what point did she know that
Speaker 1: she gave birth to a legend? You know, stuff like that. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's It's one of those things that I'm glad I
Speaker 1: have because now it's it's up there for anyone who
Speaker 1: wants to watch it, but really it's for myself more
Speaker 1: than anyone else, and it's just up there in perpetuity
Speaker 1: where I can always look back at it and be like, yeah,
Speaker 1: well then you don't film. Just enjoy the day with
Speaker 1: your mom. That's the way I'm looking at it. Go
Speaker 1: on some rides. That sounds like a beautiful, beautiful guy,
Speaker 1: and she's always very self conscious. She might. Neither one
Speaker 1: of my parents really understand why I do the things
Speaker 1: I do because their mentalities or once you get to
Speaker 1: a certain age, you go to work and you work
Speaker 1: for the rest of your life. They never really had
Speaker 1: hobbies outside of busting their ass to support their two kids.
Speaker 1: You ask my mom and my dad, like, what's a
Speaker 1: good time. My mom is gonna say being able to
Speaker 1: sit on the couch and watch Netflix, and my dad
Speaker 1: is gonna say, whatever your mom wants to do. So
Speaker 1: they don't, but they don't have hobbies. They really because
Speaker 1: of various health issues, they can't really travel. They don't
Speaker 1: really enjoy traveling either. You know, they don't really collect things.
Speaker 1: They just kinda they just have that thing where like
Speaker 1: they just want to hang out and be around each other,
Speaker 1: which is fine. But I've always Okay, now I'm wrestling,
Speaker 1: now I'm doing baseball, now I'm being a captain on
Speaker 1: a podcast. That really was, you know, just a mistake.
Speaker 1: You know, this whole captain thing was just when the
Speaker 1: boys were filming the commercial for Paps Blue Ribbon, which
Speaker 1: is hysterical, which is hysterical. I wasn't supposed to be
Speaker 1: in it. I just was showing up at Matt's house
Speaker 1: to kind of hang out with my friends Brian and
Speaker 1: Swaggle and Mark and Matt and I just showed up.
Speaker 1: But this is how I dress like in real life.
Speaker 1: So I showed up at the door. Chelsea Green opens
Speaker 1: the door and she's like, oh my god, what are
Speaker 1: you supposed to be? And I go, I'm shoes And
Speaker 1: she's like, I know your shoes, but why are you
Speaker 1: dressed like this? And she wasn't aware of this. You
Speaker 1: live in the gimmick twenty four. Like I had only
Speaker 1: met her maybe once or twice. Oh okay, so but
Speaker 1: like she so she knew who I was, she didn't
Speaker 1: know why I was dressed like this, and then like
Speaker 1: I show it and the shirt's unbuttoned and everything, and
Speaker 1: the guys from PBR are like, oh my God, like
Speaker 1: can we put him in the commercial? So there's three time. Yeah.
Speaker 1: So the one scene I made on that got actually
Speaker 1: left in for when it aired on TNT is just
Speaker 1: me standing in the background ripping a lung dart. I
Speaker 1: don't know how that passed through standards and practices, but
Speaker 1: soils so funny. I just want to ask you one
Speaker 1: quick question. You did the Run Disney? Yes, I did.
Speaker 1: How was that? Because I'm not a runner, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: a walker. If I try to run for a long
Speaker 1: amount of time, I always get a sharp pain in
Speaker 1: my left side. And it's not a thing. But I've
Speaker 1: always been fascinated and wanted to learn more about this
Speaker 1: Run Disney thing. Now you're waking up at the crack
Speaker 1: of dawn. Are you running through the parks when there's
Speaker 1: no guests there? Okay? So mine last year twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. I saw it come across my Twitter feed.
Speaker 1: I said, I want to do this, but they were
Speaker 1: doing them all virtually, so I said, okay, I'll sign
Speaker 1: up for a five k because they didn't have they
Speaker 1: didn't really want all those people running in the parks,
Speaker 1: so they did it like you would go through your neighborhood,
Speaker 1: track your time, and then submit it at the end.
Speaker 1: This year, I said I would love to do another
Speaker 1: five k because I've always been an athlete. I've always
Speaker 1: played sports, and though I am most certainly not in
Speaker 1: PA physical condition right now, I just think I can
Speaker 1: always finish it because that's just how my mind works.
Speaker 1: And this year I was too late. The one in
Speaker 1: the park had sold out, so they still had it
Speaker 1: open for virtual. By mistake, I signed up for the
Speaker 1: half marathon rather than the five K, so I what
Speaker 1: what was supposed to be three point one miles turned
Speaker 1: into thirteen point one miles. I ran your neighborhood for
Speaker 1: thirteen miles. I legitimately went to a gym and ran
Speaker 1: on a treadmill for over three hours. Wow. Like going
Speaker 1: faster and slower because I had to. There was a
Speaker 1: lot of walking involved in there. Okay, gotcha. When you
Speaker 1: do these things, I mean, you're you're really competing against yourself.
Speaker 1: It's not I'm not going there to win the gold
Speaker 1: or or anything like that. Okay, Yeah, I wasn't sure
Speaker 1: if like you go because I heard you start at
Speaker 1: like five am and you run through the parks. Yeah.
Speaker 1: They they set up They set aside entire weekends for it,
Speaker 1: like wow, crack of dawn. You know, one day it'll
Speaker 1: be the five k, one day it'll be the half marathon,
Speaker 1: one day will be the full marathon. And these and
Speaker 1: a lot of people. What they do too, is they
Speaker 1: because they're not necessarily trying to, you know, set a
Speaker 1: world record or anything, but they show up in costume
Speaker 1: and they make like a whole event out of it,
Speaker 1: and they show up as like if you're running in
Speaker 1: a group of four, they show up as four characters
Speaker 1: from Peter Pan or whatever movie. So you see a
Speaker 1: lot of the pictures from that, and that I think
Speaker 1: is going to be my goal for next year. I
Speaker 1: want to I want to show up dressed like Gaston
Speaker 1: and run the half marathon again. Yeah, my favorite character
Speaker 1: is Donald Ducked, but Guesstan is up there. I mean
Speaker 1: the interactions with him that I have when I'm at
Speaker 1: those parks so legendary. Yeah, he's great. The first time
Speaker 1: I met him, we both kept eyeing the crowd, trying
Speaker 1: to pick up chicks who can read, because you know,
Speaker 1: that's that's how I like literate women. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: you would make a great care at a Disney park.
Speaker 1: I've always it's one of those things that I always
Speaker 1: want to do, And it's like, I don't know if
Speaker 1: it's something I can actually dedicate myself to, like for
Speaker 1: a long enough period for them to allow me to
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, but I I love that kind of stuff.
Speaker 1: I love performing, I love being. You know, anyone who
Speaker 1: gets into this business is because you're you know, on
Speaker 1: a on on some level, you crave hension. You know,
Speaker 1: whether we want to admit it or not, that's you know.
Speaker 1: So it's it's one of those things that I think
Speaker 1: it would be a lot of fun. I always wanted
Speaker 1: to do, like a kid's birthday party or something like that, Like, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, be some character. I want to be the
Speaker 1: Evil Queen. Oh, you'd be phenomenal. I have years of
Speaker 1: experience with evil Queen. Yes, I want to be on
Speaker 1: the float and I just want to like just gaze
Speaker 1: at people with my fingernail things. Yeah, I could sit
Speaker 1: here and literally talk to you all day. We'll have
Speaker 1: to have you back time. Promote yourself. Where can people
Speaker 1: you on Twitter again? Give us plugs for your shows
Speaker 1: and anything that you have upcoming. So on Twitter and Instagram.
Speaker 1: I'm just at the Joe Shoes. I have a podcast
Speaker 1: called the car Jo Mez Podcast that comes out every Thursday.
Speaker 1: It's a general pop culture movies TV. I just it's
Speaker 1: me and my buddy just talking about what we think
Speaker 1: are the most interesting things going on. So like this week,
Speaker 1: we're talking about the new Batman movie. We both watched
Speaker 1: Sing two because I love animals that talk. They're my
Speaker 1: favorite types of animals. Yo, it really was. I even
Speaker 1: liked it better than the first one. I mean I
Speaker 1: just told her that over the weekend. And when you
Speaker 1: open with a print song, you've hooked me. I have
Speaker 1: to see it. I saw the first one, I haven't
Speaker 1: seen the second one yet. Very good. I also have
Speaker 1: a YouTube. My YouTube is just me trying out different foods,
Speaker 1: going on little adventures, opening some toys. YouTube dot com
Speaker 1: slash Joe Shoes and that's pretty much it. I mean,
Speaker 1: if you're into it, you can hold on it. If not,
Speaker 1: send it right on back. I won't be as fid
Speaker 1: give it a try, because you never know exactly. Like, well,
Speaker 1: you're a delight. I'm so happy we met twice. Now
Speaker 1: forgive me for the first time because you know, maybe
Speaker 1: I can lobby to get back on Alive within the
Speaker 1: next year or so. And oh we would love to
Speaker 1: have it again. Yes, people are dying for Francene and
Speaker 1: shoes his dating advice. I know we have to get together.
Speaker 1: I pitched something to Matt and he's like, I'll tell Brian,
Speaker 1: but I just think he was me. So whatever I have,
Speaker 1: I have the inside track to Brian. He's been texting me.
Speaker 1: So Brian found out I was doing this and he's like,
Speaker 1: that's just unreal, like that that I would get to
Speaker 1: be on this show. And I'm like, seventeen year old me.
Speaker 1: If you would tell him one day, the Queen of
Speaker 1: Extreme Francine is going to slide into his DMS and
Speaker 1: be like, Hey, why don't you come on and chat? Yes,
Speaker 1: he would be like, no, my life's not that cool.
Speaker 1: Listen to it is. I met you and I became
Speaker 1: a fan right then and there. I thought, I swore
Speaker 1: you were ribbing me. I was like, there's no way
Speaker 1: Francine finds this at least moderately entertaining. I did. The
Speaker 1: whole night captivated me. Everybody there. I was. I was
Speaker 1: genuinely interested about everybody's character. I want to, I asked questions.
Speaker 1: I thought I was very personable. I wanted to, and
Speaker 1: like I was almost like surprised by that. You know,
Speaker 1: like so many times we meet you know, like don't
Speaker 1: meet your heroes type of thing, and then you came
Speaker 1: in and you were very genuine and very personable, and
Speaker 1: I was like everybody it was like group hugs for everyone. Yes,
Speaker 1: I love meeting new people and working with new people
Speaker 1: and getting to know what's because honestly, like I don't
Speaker 1: get out much, so when I do, I have to
Speaker 1: enjoy myself. And that night was very enjoying. These shows
Speaker 1: are a great atmosphere because it's very low pressure. You're
Speaker 1: just kind of coming in to hang out. And I
Speaker 1: had no idea what the concept was. I was just
Speaker 1: Brian just kept saying, Oh, we're just going to talk
Speaker 1: to you. I said, what are we going to talk about?
Speaker 1: What do we do, like, I have no idea what's happening.
Speaker 1: That's really how it is with a lot of the guests.
Speaker 1: They come in being like, so I'm coming into this
Speaker 1: toy show and doing what and then by like you know,
Speaker 1: you know, at every show we're having a couple of drinks.
Speaker 1: Everyone backstage is hanging out, you know. Like I said,
Speaker 1: it's low pressure, and by the time you go out
Speaker 1: and you do your thing and the crowd is into it.
Speaker 1: They're in on all the inside jokes because they listen
Speaker 1: to every episode of the podcast. They watch all the
Speaker 1: videos on YouTube, so they're in on everything. Like they
Speaker 1: your Brian's crush on you is well documented over the
Speaker 1: course of this podcast. So when you come out, everybody
Speaker 1: is like, oh my god, this must be a dream
Speaker 1: come true for Brian Myers over there. Oh, Brian needs
Speaker 1: to get out more. Come on. Very very flattering though.
Speaker 1: But I had a great time. Hopefully we can do
Speaker 1: something again, Absolutely sure, and we'll have you back because
Speaker 1: I have a lot more questions, not only about you,
Speaker 1: but this anything. I am such a oh I'm such
Speaker 1: a fan and I love when I can connect with
Speaker 1: other adults because a lot of adults look at me, like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, you would rather go to Disney than Hawaii.
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, I think the stigma on that is
Speaker 1: wearing off though. Much like the pro wrestling business has changed,
Speaker 1: society has changed in a lot of ways where I
Speaker 1: don't care what anybody says. I love my Disney exactly.
Speaker 1: Do what you like and let people in jail do
Speaker 1: you boo and you be happy and do what makes
Speaker 1: you happy. So, doll, with a pleasure speaking with you.
Speaker 1: I will slide into your d MS again, I'm sure,
Speaker 1: and everybody go check out Captain Joe Shoes and he
Speaker 1: has so much to offer. You were you were a delight.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. This was This was a real
Speaker 1: honor and a pleasure for me. You're a doll. I'll
Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Thank you. Take care day later.
Speaker 1: Take it easy. He said, you said he's a doll.
Speaker 1: He's an action figure is I know? He is so fun.
Speaker 1: He is like a super fun adult and I love
Speaker 1: that type of person, very out going, uh just a
Speaker 1: just a nice nice man in general. So hopefully I
Speaker 1: get to do something with him in the future. He's
Speaker 1: he's a good time. So I actually did look at
Speaker 1: his YouTube channel, while he was talking, and I have
Speaker 1: more in common with him than I thought. He's a
Speaker 1: you know, he's a starting lineup baseball fan, he man wrestling.
Speaker 1: I mean, what is it about guys in that age bracket?
Speaker 1: What we grew up in a great pop culture era?
Speaker 1: Why do we like cling to it's still and love
Speaker 1: every second of this? He you know, he he just
Speaker 1: he's very like he has a wide variety of stuff
Speaker 1: that he's into, you know what I mean. So I
Speaker 1: think like he can draw, Like he can draw me
Speaker 1: for the Disney, he can draw you for the baseball,
Speaker 1: he can draw this guy for the wrestling. He could
Speaker 1: draw the other guy because he's in with the toys group. Like,
Speaker 1: he's just he's got a lot going on. But his
Speaker 1: personality is what makes him shine. To me, He's just
Speaker 1: a really nice so I I would like to learn
Speaker 1: with him in the future. So cool guy, glad I
Speaker 1: had him on. But getting back to you and I, uh,
Speaker 1: this past weekend we did so we went and worked
Speaker 1: for K and Suh. We did that virtual which was great.
Speaker 1: It was really really good. I had a great time.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Ken because he was wonderful. And then
Speaker 1: we did the big event in Queens, New York, which
Speaker 1: when we pulled up, we thought we were going to
Speaker 1: a wedding because it was very fautiful. It's a very
Speaker 1: fancy banquet hall room that we were in, gorgeous inside,
Speaker 1: but we were positioned between the Nasty Boys, the Stunner Brothers.
Speaker 1: I was cramped in the middle. Yes, and and so
Speaker 1: many people were there and a lot of fans turned out.
Speaker 1: It was it was really good turning on, I thought.
Speaker 1: And it was very enjoyable. Got to meet a lot
Speaker 1: of you, and I appreciate you all coming out to
Speaker 1: see me, and I had a good time. It was
Speaker 1: I want to go back to Friday Night with the
Speaker 1: virtual signing because it was kind of funny, Like I
Speaker 1: still like I took a couple of pictures of Ken's
Speaker 1: place and was just sending it to a few of
Speaker 1: my wrestling buddies, and like the amount of merchandise this
Speaker 1: guy had, uh huh for each signing was like amazing, right,
Speaker 1: just so impressive, But I wanted it to organize. It's
Speaker 1: so bad. It was everywhere. Yeah. The thing that I
Speaker 1: was impressed with was the encyclopedias. Yes, yeah, that was
Speaker 1: really cool, Like he has a thing called the Book Club,
Speaker 1: which I hadn't heard of it because you know, I'm
Speaker 1: out of the loop one everything. But it's it's a
Speaker 1: very clever concept. So if you have this W W
Speaker 1: W Encyclopedia and you want it signed, you pay I
Speaker 1: don't know how much he was charging per signature, but
Speaker 1: you can send it in and like every page was
Speaker 1: marked with a color. My color was orange. I'm sorry, Tez,
Speaker 1: but it was orange. And like there was blue, there
Speaker 1: was green, there was yellow. There was all these different colors.
Speaker 1: And you know, you can get like twenty signatures from
Speaker 1: Keen if you want for these, but the but the
Speaker 1: there was a million books on the table, a million.
Speaker 1: It really was like it's a great idea. Yeah, really,
Speaker 1: Like you pay one shipping obviously, you ship it to him,
Speaker 1: and then you can get all these cool signatures, like
Speaker 1: the Beverly Brothers went on right before me, and that
Speaker 1: those guys are a blasts from the past. You know,
Speaker 1: I haven't heard about them in years. And one of
Speaker 1: them came to the table and was super nice to me.
Speaker 1: I was talking to him for a while. But what
Speaker 1: a concept to get this book signed? Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: and I signed like a ton of the books and
Speaker 1: some figures and a lot of ape. It was a
Speaker 1: good night, you know. And he I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: with your uh not knowing where everything was, I'm sure
Speaker 1: Ken knows exactly. Really. Yeah, I can have everything organized
Speaker 1: right and like ready to go and then somebody's like,
Speaker 1: oh I need this and I'm like, damn it, where
Speaker 1: is it? And yeah, it was like this and that.
Speaker 1: I bet you if we were like, hey, can you
Speaker 1: find that Brutus the Barber Beefcake magazine, he'd be like, oh,
Speaker 1: it's a right. Yeah, No, it was great. It was
Speaker 1: I love virtuals. I say it all the time. I
Speaker 1: love virtuals and that was a lot of fun. The
Speaker 1: big event was a lot of fun. I think I
Speaker 1: hadn't been there in four or five years, so it
Speaker 1: was nice getting back to New York and uh getting
Speaker 1: to chat with everybody and see everyone. So a really
Speaker 1: fun weekend. I thank you again for accompanying me, and
Speaker 1: you know you got your stuff done as well, which
Speaker 1: was great. My wrestle Con trip is planned. I am going.
Speaker 1: Everything is set, hotel, airfair, everything is done. I'm bringing
Speaker 1: my bestie Betty with me. It's gonna be a hell
Speaker 1: of a weekend. So Dallas, get ready because I have
Speaker 1: I don't even know when I was there. It's got
Speaker 1: to be it has to be twenty something years since
Speaker 1: I've been to Dallas, so and I probably won't get
Speaker 1: there again anytime soon. So if you're in the area
Speaker 1: and you're a fan, please come see me because I
Speaker 1: would love to see it at wrestle kan it's the
Speaker 1: big one. Ladies and gentlemen. Yeah, that would be a
Speaker 1: pretty pretty I mean imagine that, like you go back again,
Speaker 1: like in five years' like I never thought i'd be
Speaker 1: back here, but myrestle Mania is there again and it's
Speaker 1: the fifty five and fabulous to work. Well, we don't know,
Speaker 1: I mean you know, as of right now, my plan
Speaker 1: was to kind of slow down. But I'm telling you,
Speaker 1: if if things keep picking up for me, I'm not stopping.
Speaker 1: So I'm just gonna I'm just gonna keep going until
Speaker 1: no one listens. Mm hmmrow, just keep doing it. It
Speaker 1: was mike Y and not mean Wayne bloom Is, who
Speaker 1: the Beverly brother was. Beverly What a doll he was, yes,
Speaker 1: and he looked phenomenal, really good shape, and uh it
Speaker 1: was He was very complimentary towards me and very nice
Speaker 1: and it was nice seeing everyone, you know, it was
Speaker 1: just it was a good time. We have a little
Speaker 1: bit of footage that we recorded so you can get
Speaker 1: to see the crowds and who was there and what
Speaker 1: was going on. But I had I had a lot
Speaker 1: of fun me too. I always do all that prep
Speaker 1: and now it's over. It's over, yes, And the next
Speaker 1: one is right around the corner. So that's the one
Speaker 1: I'm getting ready for now. But you know, we're working
Speaker 1: on our YouTube channel. If you haven't subscribed, it's free.
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Speaker 1: But we have all content coming on very soon yep,
Speaker 1: and trying to get to five k subscribers, and when
Speaker 1: we do, we're going to have something very special for
Speaker 1: you guys. But we're on our way. We're going to
Speaker 1: be doing I think this coming weekend we're trying to
Speaker 1: get alive going, trying to get it going. Yep. So
Speaker 1: it's either going to be Friday or Saturday. Just check
Speaker 1: our twitters and we'll let you know the exact date.
Speaker 1: But I'm really digging being back on YouTube. Great responses,
Speaker 1: you know, love the comments. You respond to every comment
Speaker 1: that's that's left. Yeah, I would say about ninety nine
Speaker 1: percent of them have been very just talkative and respectful.
Speaker 1: You know, you get not many trolls. But yeah, we've
Speaker 1: been uploading some old clips and also you know, kind
Speaker 1: of splicing up some of the Patreon stuff, putting it
Speaker 1: up there. There's the last thing I just uploaded as
Speaker 1: we're talking, is a short little vlog of the big event.
Speaker 1: So we're on Patreon. You got close to thirteen minute
Speaker 1: vlog trip around the venue. On YouTube, you get three
Speaker 1: minutes special so you can come in see a little
Speaker 1: bit of it and you see what you're missing on Patrion. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1: So yeah, please subscribe to it like in comment and
Speaker 1: all that good stuff, and we'll keep giving you a
Speaker 1: new content. So it's been fun. Yeah, absolutely, all right,
Speaker 1: Well what are we doing on Patreon this week? Well,
Speaker 1: on Patreon this week, we are going to talk in
Speaker 1: detail about the wildest backstage stories that have ever been
Speaker 1: published online and some have not been published that I
Speaker 1: might share and we might need a part two for that,
Speaker 1: so depending on how long we go, We're going to
Speaker 1: talk about the wildest backstage stories. And then in the
Speaker 1: part too, we're going to talk about stories that you
Speaker 1: may have encountered. Now, I just hope that we read
Speaker 1: these and they're true. That's the other thing I hope. Well,
Speaker 1: allegedly we have to say allegedly now when I tell
Speaker 1: mine real and oh my gosh, are they crazy? Yes,
Speaker 1: So get RDY America and overseas, because I don't know,
Speaker 1: a lot of people might not know these stories that
Speaker 1: I have in the vault, but I'm gonna share them.
Speaker 1: No YouTube listeners to come up edge of my seat
Speaker 1: waiting for it as we anticipated. And then we're going
Speaker 1: to watch an impromptu match between the Human Suplex Machine,
Speaker 1: the Orange and Black Master, Taz and one franchise were
Speaker 1: in his shirt hare Shane Douglas TV title. I know
Speaker 1: this five minutes cann who can tap out? The exchange
Speaker 1: beforehand is so filled with curses. I thought we didn't
Speaker 1: do this one. We did a clipped version of it.
Speaker 1: This is the whole thing. This is the whole thing.
Speaker 1: This is the exchange between Taz him. You were brought up,
Speaker 1: you were called the not night name. I never called
Speaker 1: a nice name by these men, and why we've not
Speaker 1: We watched a clipped version of it. This is the
Speaker 1: whole thing, but just the language that's used, like, holy crap,
Speaker 1: this is I don't know, it's great. I get such
Speaker 1: a bad rap and I'm such good person. I just
Speaker 1: don't understand stupid tazz. We you know what we did.
Speaker 1: We watched it in a in a conglomeration of about
Speaker 1: three clips. That's why we only saw a clipped version
Speaker 1: of it. This is okay, fifteen minute segment. I'll break
Speaker 1: it all down for you. We'll break it down. So
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