WEBVTT - Comics! - Best Introductory Arcs For New Readers & All-Time Favorites

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<v Speaker 1>Warning, this episode contains spoilers for a bunch of the

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<v Speaker 1>comic books that we are going to discuss. And these

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<v Speaker 1>are comic books from across a spectrum of publishers including Marvel, DC,

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<v Speaker 1>Image and Onny and much more. So you have been warned. Hello,

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<v Speaker 1>my name is Jason Concepcion. Welcome to episode ten of

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<v Speaker 1>X ray Vision, The Cricket Podcast, where we dive deep

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<v Speaker 1>into your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture.

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<v Speaker 2>To mark our first.

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<v Speaker 1>Double digit episode, we're bringing on a double hit of

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<v Speaker 1>co hosts. Today up, first on Previously On, I'll be

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<v Speaker 1>covering all the news that's happened in the past week,

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<v Speaker 1>and then it's time for an extended airlock where we

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<v Speaker 1>talk about comics, comics, comics, and to do that we're

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<v Speaker 1>bringing on our comics connoisseurs, writer Rosie Knight and Cody Ziggler. First,

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<v Speaker 1>let's hit the news on today's previously on. First up,

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<v Speaker 1>the Book of Boba Fett trailer is out. How best

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<v Speaker 1>to describe this, So it's like Boba Fett in his

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<v Speaker 1>role as the new crime lord of tattooing now that

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<v Speaker 1>job is out of the picture. I kept wanting to

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<v Speaker 1>hear the Sopranos theme under it because it's like a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, Boba Fett meeting with the various

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<v Speaker 1>coppos of Jaba's former crime empire and getting them all

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<v Speaker 1>in line with the help of mgno Win's Fenixshand This

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<v Speaker 1>will start streaming December twenty ninth on Disney Plus. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>ep'd by Dave Filoni and John Favreau. This looks super fun. Next,

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<v Speaker 1>the trailer long awaited trailer for Morbius from Sony in

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<v Speaker 1>conjunction with Marvel Studios has been released. It stars Jared

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<v Speaker 1>Leto as the famed Spider Man villain Morbius, the Living Vampire.

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<v Speaker 1>He is a physician who has a blood disorder. Then

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<v Speaker 1>he is like, how do I cure this thing? So

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<v Speaker 1>he goes down to an area where there are a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of vampire bats and guess what, he becomes a

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<v Speaker 1>fucking vampire. It stars Matt Smith, Jared Leto, Jared Harris,

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<v Speaker 1>Al Madrigal, and Tyrese Gibson. It is directed by Daniel

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<v Speaker 1>Espinoza from a script by Matt Sazama and Burke Sharpless.

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<v Speaker 1>This trailer has come out two years after the first

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<v Speaker 1>teaser trailer was released. In four years after the project

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<v Speaker 1>was announced.

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<v Speaker 2>Obviously a lot.

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<v Speaker 1>Has changed in that time, and it is laden with

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<v Speaker 1>references from Sony's various Spider Man offerings, including an appearance

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<v Speaker 1>by Michael Keaton's Vulture. There is a shot of the

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<v Speaker 1>Oscorp building. There is a mention of Rhino and Black

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<v Speaker 1>Cat from the cover of a Daily Bugle. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a mention of that thing that happened in San Francisco,

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<v Speaker 1>which is clearly a reference to Venom. So lots of

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man from all versions of Sony's Spider Verse happening here.

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<v Speaker 1>Be interesting to see how this ties into the MCU.

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<v Speaker 2>If at all I mean, I'll watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>And then finally, nine employees of Image Comics have announced

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<v Speaker 1>that they are going to form a comic book workers

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<v Speaker 1>union called Comic Book Workers United. The decision announcement reads,

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<v Speaker 1>in part quote, our workforce and the comic book and

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<v Speaker 1>publishing industry as a whole is over taxed and undervalued.

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<v Speaker 1>This is detrimental not only to general staff, but also

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<v Speaker 1>to the creators. We were paid to serve in the

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<v Speaker 1>audience as they entered work to entertain. We love what

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<v Speaker 1>we do, but loving what you do doesn't mean you

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<v Speaker 1>can't or shouldn't ask for improvements to your working conditions.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was signed by the Image staffers Ryan Brewer,

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<v Speaker 1>Leanna Counter, Marla Isaac, Drew Fitzgerald, Melissa Gifford, Cloos, Trisha Ramos,

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<v Speaker 1>John Schlaffman, and Erica Schnatz. Somewhat ironic since Image was

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<v Speaker 1>formed in nineteen ninety two by disaffected comic book creators

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<v Speaker 1>from DC and Marvel who wanted to benefit from the

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<v Speaker 1>success of their creations in a way that working at

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<v Speaker 1>the Big two simply wouldn't. So the fact that this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening with Image is interesting and I hope they succeed.

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<v Speaker 2>I hope they succeed.

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<v Speaker 1>This builds on a history there's been a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>like aborted attempts to kind of unionize the comics industry,

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<v Speaker 1>going back to the Academy of Comic Book Artists from

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<v Speaker 1>the seventies, which was an organization that stan Lee created

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<v Speaker 1>that in his mind was would act as like a

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<v Speaker 1>promotional arm for the comics book industry, but for younger creators,

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<v Speaker 1>more militant creators at the time, including Neil Adams and

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<v Speaker 1>Archie good One. They thought, okay, we should turn this

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<v Speaker 1>into basically a comic book union that will go out

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<v Speaker 1>there and fight for the interests of creators for better pay,

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<v Speaker 1>more equitable profit sharing, better work hours, better working conditions,

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<v Speaker 1>et cetera. And that one kind of broke down because

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<v Speaker 1>there are a lot of disagreements obviously, one about what

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<v Speaker 1>the ACBA would actually do, and then two how best

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<v Speaker 1>to share those benefits, Like would it just be writers

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<v Speaker 1>and pencilers, What about the inkers, what about the colorists,

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<v Speaker 1>what about the letterers? And it's so I'm hoping that

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<v Speaker 1>this union succeeds one and doesn't break down along those

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<v Speaker 1>similar lines. If you're going to be inclusive, you got

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<v Speaker 1>to include everybody. That means writers, artists, pencilers, colorists, and everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope it succeeds some.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the goals. The stated goals.

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<v Speaker 1>That this union has put out there in their announcement

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<v Speaker 1>says they want to foster a more competitive industry through

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<v Speaker 1>salary workload transparency for all existing and proposed job titles,

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<v Speaker 1>more transparent company culture stuff in there, for allowing employees

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<v Speaker 1>to continue to work remote, et cetera. It's a long

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<v Speaker 1>time coming, and I hope this. I hope this works up.

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<v Speaker 1>Next we go into the airlock with Rosie.

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<v Speaker 2>And zig.

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to the airlock today, where we are joined by

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<v Speaker 1>the Great Rosie Knight and the Great Cody Ziggler. Folks,

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<v Speaker 1>how were your respective Halloweens?

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<v Speaker 3>You know they were good for me? On my end,

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<v Speaker 3>I was a very I was a very adult about it.

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<v Speaker 3>I got my booster shot for pis or being chot out.

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<v Speaker 3>So I spent literally all of my night of Halloween

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<v Speaker 3>on my couch nursing a gnarly headache.

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<v Speaker 4>So that was very serious though. I like that, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>thank you.

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<v Speaker 3>I did what I can. You know this this is

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<v Speaker 3>thirty four. You know, twenty seven year old me would

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<v Speaker 3>would rich at the idea, But like at thirty four,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm like, yeah, we hang out my couch, play some

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<v Speaker 3>Guards of the Galaxy and watch some TV. That that's

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<v Speaker 3>what I got going on.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I feel that at thirty three it was lay

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<v Speaker 4>on the sofa and watched like a ton of bad sequels.

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<v Speaker 4>I watched like every I know what you did last

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<v Speaker 4>summer movie. Two of my favor with late stage hel

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<v Speaker 4>raise of sequels, which is Bloodline and Hell well both

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<v Speaker 4>of them absolutely foncused ten out of Time would recommend.

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<v Speaker 4>But that's that's the life. When you're in your face,

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<v Speaker 4>you got to.

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<v Speaker 3>Be chilling that I get eying, knowlse to prove I've

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<v Speaker 3>done it all?

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<v Speaker 2>What did I do?

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<v Speaker 1>I went to an improv show at Largo, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went to a friend's party that was already cashed out,

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<v Speaker 1>so we just sat with their dog and talked and

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<v Speaker 1>hung out. It was actually quite chill and delightful. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I went home.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, I can't wait to talk about comics today because

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<v Speaker 1>people ask all the time whenever we delve into comic books,

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<v Speaker 1>where do I start? I want to get into comics,

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know where to start, and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what.

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<v Speaker 2>To read, and YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>Folks, this is for you. If you are one of

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<v Speaker 1>those people, this segment is for you. Zig Rosie and

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<v Speaker 1>I are going to get into such topics as where

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<v Speaker 1>do I start, what's a good comic arc? And we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to do that across Marvel, across DC, across Boom,

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<v Speaker 1>across Image, across top Cow. We're going to talk to

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<v Speaker 1>you about some of our favorite comics and great places

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<v Speaker 1>to pick up and start.

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<v Speaker 2>If you're new to it. Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 4>I'm ready, I'm ready. This is the one.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, give way for it.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first prompt, what are good entry arcs for new

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<v Speaker 1>comics readers?

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<v Speaker 2>And let's start with Let's start with Marvel. Who wants

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<v Speaker 2>to go first? I guess we'll go. We'll just go

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<v Speaker 2>down Zig Would you like to start?

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<v Speaker 3>Oh? Yeah, you know this. I've been yelling about this

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<v Speaker 3>particular run since it came out maybe a year a

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<v Speaker 3>year some change ago. Kelly Thompson and Elena or Elena

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<v Speaker 3>Cussa Grande's Black Widow is for me.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 3>It's one of those stories that I think defines the characters,

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<v Speaker 3>sort of like how Matt fact fraction in David Aya's

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<v Speaker 3>Hawkeye became like, oh, this is what Hawkeye should be like.

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<v Speaker 3>This is very much in the same vein as what

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<v Speaker 3>what they've done with Black Widow. Fantastic character moments with

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<v Speaker 3>with that, that that that Kelly wrote, and the art

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<v Speaker 3>is amazing, Like car Kelly has has sort of this

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<v Speaker 3>staple where she can do some really beautiful double spreads

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<v Speaker 3>that conveys so much action. Uh, and this usually sent

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<v Speaker 3>it around like a center point frame. There's something crazy

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<v Speaker 3>going on if you're looking for some amazing art as

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<v Speaker 3>well as some beautiful, touching storytelling. I highly recommend Black Widow.

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<v Speaker 3>It's such a fun run. It's funny, it's heart wrenching

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<v Speaker 3>and also has the fun stuff with like you can

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<v Speaker 3>we give the combooks like oh, there's a there's a

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<v Speaker 3>there's a dude in a hovercr like.

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<v Speaker 4>Every day and it's grounded but.

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<v Speaker 3>Everything. Oh right, there you go now, I'm yeah, Harry

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<v Speaker 3>recommend Rosie.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm gonna like, I'm thinking of something in that

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<v Speaker 4>would be like a similar vein because I love the

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<v Speaker 4>idea of this being like a reading list for me,

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<v Speaker 4>like something you really those double page spreads. The way

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<v Speaker 4>Kelly can write them and Elena can bring them to

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<v Speaker 4>life is the twenty thirteen Young Avengers run. They're Kieran Gilla, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>Matt Wilson on colors. Those colors are vital to the books. Like,

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<v Speaker 4>this book is so good. It's like I love the

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<v Speaker 4>original Young Avengers, Jim Chung's like the best, and but

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<v Speaker 4>this is like this was my thing, Like I love

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<v Speaker 4>this book. I got the first issue with a Brian

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<v Speaker 4>le O'Malley variant cover, and it's basically like Team of

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<v Speaker 4>young heroes and it's cosmic and it's weird, and it's

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<v Speaker 4>what we're basically about to see in the MCU two

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<v Speaker 4>looking at the team, know America, Chaves, Patriot, You've got

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<v Speaker 4>like Kate Bishop, Hawkeye. You know, there's and it's and

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<v Speaker 4>it's queer and it's funny and it's inclusive and there

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<v Speaker 4>is there are these double page spreads and these things

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<v Speaker 4>that Jamie does with Paneling, Like there's this one double

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<v Speaker 4>page spread where they're having a fight, and all around

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<v Speaker 4>the edges there are like little kind of like outtakes

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<v Speaker 4>where you're seeing different people fighting the number the fighter

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<v Speaker 4>and it is like I remember reading.

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<v Speaker 3>That and being like, ship it broke my brain. The

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<v Speaker 3>first time I read that.

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is what comics are, Like, this

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<v Speaker 4>is what you can do with them. And it's like

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<v Speaker 4>it's fun, it's sexy, it's like silly, but and it's

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<v Speaker 4>kid Loki. Wow, big kid Loki storyline. If that's your thing.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that is like a really and that's

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<v Speaker 4>from this era of Marvel that I just loved when

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<v Speaker 4>they were doing Marvel. Now you know that Miss Marvel,

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<v Speaker 4>Kamala Kahan, Like there was a lot and that is

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<v Speaker 4>just like, that's peak I when I work in a

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<v Speaker 4>comic shop, I used to recommend that book to everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Gillan, uh mckelvy, Matt Wilson. That is an elite, top

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<v Speaker 1>level creative team, so clean, the writing is musical, it's romantic.

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<v Speaker 2>I love that one. That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a lot of x Men out there, there's

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<v Speaker 1>you know, forty fifty years now of x Men history.

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<v Speaker 1>I am going to select for the new reader. X

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<v Speaker 1>Men Grand design Ed Pisker's three volume compendium of X

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<v Speaker 1>Men history, done as like almost like a zine. So

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<v Speaker 1>it's not gonna give you like the granular detailed stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like about you know, it's not gonna give you everything,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's gonna basically catch you up in four or

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<v Speaker 1>five decades of X Men history in this really fun,

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<v Speaker 1>almost like indie art style.

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<v Speaker 2>That I super love.

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<v Speaker 1>Whether you're a X Men fanatic or someone who's just

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<v Speaker 1>like wants to know all the stuff that happened before

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<v Speaker 1>diving in. I think it's a great pickup. Listen, bar

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<v Speaker 1>the first one from your library or if.

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<v Speaker 2>You have comic compony, yeah, library, yeah, and if you

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<v Speaker 2>like it, go pick it up. From your from your

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<v Speaker 2>local comic shop. Next zig another one, give us another one, you.

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<v Speaker 3>Know, since we're since I'm coming off that I'm dismounting

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<v Speaker 3>from from your pick. For X Man, I gotta recommend

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<v Speaker 3>zeb Wells and Steven Segovia's Hellian's I Love My Boys V.

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<v Speaker 3>We work together on Cheehak. He's super funny guy in

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<v Speaker 3>this comic is very very funny, also very dark. He's

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<v Speaker 3>he the way that he's able to have a character

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<v Speaker 3>like mister Senator have actual bits and I have punchlines

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<v Speaker 3>in his comics is missed.

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<v Speaker 4>The sinister is like the I want to do this

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<v Speaker 4>is so funny, like and you can. Hellien's is a

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<v Speaker 4>brilliant choice because it seems like maybe it's a little

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<v Speaker 4>bit more heavy because it's just been off sea. But

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<v Speaker 4>it's not like you can jump into this book and

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<v Speaker 4>just absolutely love it and if you really love it,

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<v Speaker 4>you can go to House of X all the other

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<v Speaker 4>stuff like this is like the and it's what's fifteen issues.

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<v Speaker 3>And yes, easy easy and easy out. It's one of

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<v Speaker 3>those things that also, like the Sculturals, I guys like

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<v Speaker 3>we know what the Thunderbolt told in IR like we

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<v Speaker 3>know what Suicide Squad is, so like taking that team

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<v Speaker 3>and couching it in like the X Men world, and

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<v Speaker 3>also being like, oh, I'm gonna have some of the

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<v Speaker 3>funniest jokes you've ever read, also sandwiched in between some

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<v Speaker 3>really traumatic stuff going on, much of the same way

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<v Speaker 3>that I think that Black Widows sort of redefines a

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<v Speaker 3>black widow for this sort of modern age. I think

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<v Speaker 3>if Helions could be redefined, I think in the year's

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<v Speaker 3>twenty twenty one, like, this is definitely the book that

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<v Speaker 3>I would recommend if you're looking for something that's new

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<v Speaker 3>at currently being made. It's also funny and has hits

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<v Speaker 3>all the different tiers of like action, like the dramatic bits.

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<v Speaker 3>It also a really really really funny book, and it.

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<v Speaker 4>Comes out regularly as well. For a big two book.

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<v Speaker 4>I rarely have big two stuff like on my pull

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<v Speaker 4>list for a long time. Yeah, this is in our house.

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<v Speaker 4>That is that that's like Helen's is just so good.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm so glad you included that one. It's just it's

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<v Speaker 4>so good. It's so funny, but it's.

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<v Speaker 1>Also like really yeah, yeah, the mister Sinister aspect is

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<v Speaker 1>fantastic because you know, for mister Sinister, classic X Men

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<v Speaker 1>villain has a very tangled history within the X Men lore,

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<v Speaker 1>but like you don't need to know any of that.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like so campy and funny and weird. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>a great pick, great pick.

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<v Speaker 4>And he has like an incredible cape, which is like

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<v Speaker 4>one of my all time favorite.

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<v Speaker 3>I do love their bits that revolve around the spindles

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<v Speaker 3>on his cape. They dive into very fun stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>H Rosie.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, I'm gonna go for a let's think. I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 4>that was just so good. Okay, let's go old. Let's

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<v Speaker 4>go old because you went there. Okay, So I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 4>recommend We've talked Infinity Gornela, which is on my list

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<v Speaker 4>because I just think that's such a great comic. But

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<v Speaker 4>we've talked about that before people know it. That's your MC.

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<v Speaker 4>So I'm gonna go for Silver Surfer Rebirth of Thaos,

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<v Speaker 4>which is from nineteen ninety. It's Ron Limb, whose Absolute

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<v Speaker 4>Icon also was artist on Infinity Gone and Jim stalin

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<v Speaker 4>the career of Thanos and Infinnity Go. This is just

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<v Speaker 4>a really cool, weird ninety story about Silver Surfer and

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<v Speaker 4>Thanos and it's what led into Infinity Gorne lit. So

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<v Speaker 4>this is a great place to if you want to

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<v Speaker 4>know how Thanos ended up on the Quest for the Gems.

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<v Speaker 4>This includes really great art called Danos Quest and it

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<v Speaker 4>is just so much fun. Run them is one of

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<v Speaker 4>my absolute favorite artists, just absolutely stunning, brilliant, weird, cosmic art.

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<v Speaker 4>If you're looking for something where it's like you want

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<v Speaker 4>to be someone who can go into them SEU and

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<v Speaker 4>you have a little bit more context on what's going on,

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<v Speaker 4>and maybe you want to make up some fan theories

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<v Speaker 4>or you want to chat to your friends about what happened.

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like this is a relevant book. I feel

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<v Speaker 4>like this is a good direction to go to, and

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<v Speaker 4>it's just really cool. And they actually have this book

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't collected very often, but there is a silver Stuff

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<v Speaker 4>of Rebirth of Thanos collection which is really easy to

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<v Speaker 4>just grab as a trade.

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<v Speaker 2>I love it. That's a great one.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's see where will I go? Okay, so let's jump

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<v Speaker 1>to DC. I think if you're listen, this is dead easy.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to know about Batman? Right, Batman? You're one

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<v Speaker 1>Frank Miller, David Matsucelli, first of all, that creative team

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<v Speaker 1>in that year did Batman You'r One and Devil Born Again,

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<v Speaker 1>which is just two of the top top top greatest

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<v Speaker 1>arcs ever. And Batman Year one. It tells you right

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<v Speaker 1>in the title.

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<v Speaker 2>What it is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is the first year that Bruce Wayne put on

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<v Speaker 1>the cape, put on the cowl, and started skulking around

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<v Speaker 1>at night trying to be Batman. And it's the ups

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<v Speaker 1>and downs, the ins and outs, the trial and error

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<v Speaker 1>of what you need to do and what you experience

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<v Speaker 1>when you're trying to become a masked vigilante in the

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<v Speaker 1>most crime burden city in DC comics America.

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<v Speaker 2>And the art is just Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Maza Kelly's as like Conreal. There's so many moments you'll

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<v Speaker 4>recognize even if you haven't read the comic. When you

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<v Speaker 4>see it, you'll be like, oh, that's what I ass from.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, it's just like iconic stuff. The pacing of the art,

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<v Speaker 1>the framing, it's just absolutely beautiful. And it's everything you

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<v Speaker 1>need to know where Batman comes from and what he

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<v Speaker 1>has to face as he meets a bunch of people

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<v Speaker 1>from his Rogues gallery towards the end of the story.

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<v Speaker 1>Really really great. Pick it up as a trade perfect

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<v Speaker 1>next zig Once again, what's next.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, I don't have any DC because I'm a

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<v Speaker 3>company man through and through. But what I do have,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, if you're look at him, that's little bit

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<v Speaker 3>different flavoring from I think traditional Cape superhero comics. You

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<v Speaker 3>gotta check out hell Boy. I highly I mean any Hellboy.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, just so much great stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much great there's I mean, the good thing

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<v Speaker 3>about Hellboy is that it's not very serialized, especially this

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<v Speaker 3>first couple of comics. You can just pick up their

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<v Speaker 3>basically folklore, So you know, I highly recommend Hellboy, The

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<v Speaker 3>Chained Coffin and others like that's the first one that

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<v Speaker 3>I read for Hellboy, even.

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<v Speaker 4>Like Seed of Destruction, which is volume one, Like that's

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<v Speaker 4>you you can just jump on, like that's such a

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<v Speaker 4>good thing. And it does kind of link to DC

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<v Speaker 4>because a lot of Mike mcnoll's original work was at DC,

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<v Speaker 4>like he did a little bit Batman, you know, so

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<v Speaker 4>I think I think that's a really cool course. That's

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<v Speaker 4>also I think one of the best if you like

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<v Speaker 4>superhero comic and you want to dive into something that's

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<v Speaker 4>more independent creator around, but still has that folkloric, mythological

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<v Speaker 4>epic scope. I think Hellboy is like a really good choice.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, that choice of words is I think is what

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<v Speaker 3>really draws me to it is that you know there

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<v Speaker 3>most of them are myths and fairy tales and folklore,

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<v Speaker 3>and because just human beings have been telling those things

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<v Speaker 3>for a thousand of years, Like it instantly feels familiar

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<v Speaker 3>but also grandness of scale, but like you could have

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<v Speaker 3>a story that lasts you know, ten pages, that is

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<v Speaker 3>in and out, but it feels very complete because we've

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<v Speaker 3>heard versions of that as long as I for fort

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<v Speaker 3>since we've been going up forever. But also they are fantastic,

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<v Speaker 3>Like the use of colors and shadows that he does

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<v Speaker 3>is just next world. And also it's very nice different

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<v Speaker 3>spin if you used to like I think the Eight

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<v Speaker 3>Head the Eight Heads of like Comic Web, like superheres,

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<v Speaker 3>everyone's like jacked and like they're like all six foot five.

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<v Speaker 3>It's nice seeing a different take on that. And it's

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<v Speaker 3>also a nice seeing some things that are made outside

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<v Speaker 3>of like the Big too, if you're looking against some

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<v Speaker 3>more independent comics.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think as well, like something that could

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<v Speaker 4>really I think is a good another good inroad for

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<v Speaker 4>people who are mostly into Big two is like it's

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<v Speaker 4>almost like a it's a shared universe of folklore, so

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<v Speaker 4>you have all these different characters from all over the world,

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<v Speaker 4>and instead of it being like Batman teaming up with

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the Justice League or whatever, or founding Justice League,

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<v Speaker 4>it's instead you've got like Barba Yaga and like all

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<v Speaker 4>these different but also you know hell Boy and all

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<v Speaker 4>these other like Lobster Johnson, like these characters that Mike

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<v Speaker 4>created as well. I just I think those books are

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<v Speaker 4>so wonderful and really cool to see a creator who

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<v Speaker 4>got to do a book for such a long time

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<v Speaker 4>kind of end it on his own terms and then

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<v Speaker 4>he does dip back into it. But that is something

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<v Speaker 4>if you want to get into something and just do it,

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<v Speaker 4>it's you can do that. That can be your seat dive.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, there's a there's a breaking bad aspect too of

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<v Speaker 1>hell Boy, where it's like Mignola keeps putting hell Boy

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<v Speaker 1>into situations where you're like, how's he gonna get out

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<v Speaker 1>of this way? And he gets out of it and

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<v Speaker 1>it ends up mattering and changing. The story is as

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<v Speaker 1>they move forward into it, where things just get worse

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<v Speaker 1>and worse and worse and worse and worse for hell Boy,

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<v Speaker 1>who's you know, entire struggle as a character is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to avoid the fate laid out to him. And each

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<v Speaker 1>time he each time he like puts the fade off

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<v Speaker 1>for a little while, it comes back stronger and he

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<v Speaker 1>has to resist it even stronger again, and it just

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<v Speaker 1>it's a great, great arc all the way through.

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<v Speaker 2>Could not agree one, Rosie.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I'm gonna use you know, Zigg's very good

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<v Speaker 4>deflection to go back to his distinguished competitions. So if

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<v Speaker 4>you if you read, if you read, if you read

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<v Speaker 4>hall Boy, and you love it, and you're like, what

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<v Speaker 4>is dark and weird and similar? But what exists in

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<v Speaker 4>this this DC space that I love with this? So

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<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go for Saga of the swamp Thing the

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<v Speaker 4>nineteen eighty four to so from Sagara Swamping twenty one,

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<v Speaker 4>which is when Alan Moore, Stephen Besset John Tottlebin and

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<v Speaker 4>that is like the weirdest best stuff ever. So this

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<v Speaker 4>is really where the swamp Thing. The Swamping was created

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<v Speaker 4>by Lem Wayne and Bernie Wrightson, and it's this great

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<v Speaker 4>horror character. But here basically just before this they kill

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<v Speaker 4>swamp Thing, he gets shot in the head and so

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<v Speaker 4>Alan Moore basically was like, wow, he's made of plants.

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<v Speaker 4>So he just comes back to life, and it really

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<v Speaker 4>it reinvents it. It introduces a lot of the stuff

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<v Speaker 4>that we know about swamp thing, and it has this

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<v Speaker 4>absolutely incredible issue called Rights of Spring, which is like

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<v Speaker 4>super notorious because it's basically this super trippy swamp thing,

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<v Speaker 4>basically like giving a tuba off himself for his girlfriend

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<v Speaker 4>to eat and then they trip together and like unbelievable,

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<v Speaker 4>And I just think that is That's the kind of

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<v Speaker 4>comic you can give to anyone. Like if someone's really

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<v Speaker 4>really into horror and they love Talboy, for example, you

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<v Speaker 4>can give it to them. If you've got if you

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<v Speaker 4>want to get a comic for your parents or someone

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<v Speaker 4>older and they just really appreciate more classical style art,

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<v Speaker 4>that's a great election. If somebody's read Watchmen and they

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<v Speaker 4>want to know other Alan more stuff to read, like,

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<v Speaker 4>there's just it's just so much fun, and they've really

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<v Speaker 4>done a great job of collecting it. It's also a

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<v Speaker 4>good back issue comic. If you're a collector, you can

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<v Speaker 4>go to your local comic shop. You can probably find

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<v Speaker 4>that issue twenty one for kind of ten to fifteen bucks,

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<v Speaker 4>and you can sort of start a fun collection. So

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<v Speaker 4>I think it's a really nice comic for a lot

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<v Speaker 4>of different reasons.

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<v Speaker 2>Wow, this is great.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So I am going to say, gosh, I'm Ultimate

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<v Speaker 1>Spider Man.

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<v Speaker 4>I just think, Jason, that is not decenta.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 1>Going back to going back to Marvel, Marvel's Ultimate Universe.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Ultimate Universe was a initiative that Marvel put

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<v Speaker 1>into place early two thousands that was basically like, how

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<v Speaker 1>do we how do we bring the Marvel Universe into

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<v Speaker 1>the modern world, right?

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<v Speaker 2>And so.

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<v Speaker 1>It's it's just great. There's I think it's about one

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and sixty issues all told, I want to say,

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<v Speaker 1>And you know, just read it all the way up

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<v Speaker 1>through spoiler, the death of Spider Man, the introduction of

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<v Speaker 1>Miles Marnallas.

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<v Speaker 3>Good.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good.

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:21.600
<v Speaker 1>It hurts so so so good, Mark Bagley, Stuart Immanen

0:24:21.800 --> 0:24:26.520
<v Speaker 1>and others, and it you know, it puts Peter Parker

0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>into early two thousands New York. You get to see

0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:34.360
<v Speaker 1>it's and it is a real like Peter Parker as

0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:39.400
<v Speaker 1>a teen figuring it out. You feel the danger of

0:24:39.640 --> 0:24:44.280
<v Speaker 1>what could happen. If these various villains find out about

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:48.840
<v Speaker 1>Peter Parker's secret identity, and you know, because it is

0:24:48.920 --> 0:24:51.960
<v Speaker 1>Ultimate Universe, there are real stakes which again lead to

0:24:52.560 --> 0:24:56.919
<v Speaker 1>Peter Parker's absolutely heartbreaking death.

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<v Speaker 2>Great, great run.

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<v Speaker 4>It's so good. It has to one of my favorite

0:25:00.760 --> 0:25:04.800
<v Speaker 4>Spider Man moments of all time. Yeah, there's the absolutely,

0:25:04.920 --> 0:25:07.439
<v Speaker 4>there's the there's the I always remember, like post the

0:25:07.480 --> 0:25:10.040
<v Speaker 4>death of Spider Man, there's a scene with Miles and

0:25:10.040 --> 0:25:13.400
<v Speaker 4>he's like remembering Peter with all these different family members

0:25:13.880 --> 0:25:15.880
<v Speaker 4>that is that has like there's a scene I think

0:25:15.920 --> 0:25:18.960
<v Speaker 4>it's Gwen or someone who's remembering and that she like

0:25:19.080 --> 0:25:21.160
<v Speaker 4>imagines what their whole life would have been. Like, Yeah,

0:25:21.200 --> 0:25:24.320
<v Speaker 4>it's like a silent page with and it is so good,

0:25:25.080 --> 0:25:27.359
<v Speaker 4>and we talk. We talk about Clamont a lot, and

0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:30.280
<v Speaker 4>this was actually I think Bendis overtook Clamont as the

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<v Speaker 4>longest writer on one run during on a Spider Man.

0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:35.680
<v Speaker 4>So that's like also a milestone.

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<v Speaker 1>And there's a handoff, like to hand off from an

0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:42.159
<v Speaker 1>iconic character Peter Parker two Miles Morales and do it

0:25:42.160 --> 0:25:47.639
<v Speaker 1>in a way where it honors both characters and you're like,

0:25:48.000 --> 0:25:52.320
<v Speaker 1>Miles Morales immediately enters the pantheon of comic.

0:25:52.200 --> 0:25:53.919
<v Speaker 3>Immediate like it.

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<v Speaker 2>That is so hard to do and they absolutely pull

0:25:57.440 --> 0:25:57.760
<v Speaker 2>it off.

0:25:57.800 --> 0:25:59.600
<v Speaker 3>And also a character built as a clap back to

0:25:59.680 --> 0:26:01.760
<v Speaker 3>all the they were like, yeah, we don't want to yes,

0:26:02.080 --> 0:26:03.760
<v Speaker 3>a non white Spider Man, Like, oh, we're not only

0:26:03.800 --> 0:26:05.439
<v Speaker 3>going to make one, but he's going to become like

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<v Speaker 3>the face of like the generation of Spider Man going forward. Now,

0:26:08.160 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 3>that's who.

0:26:08.880 --> 0:26:10.920
<v Speaker 4>Kids dress up as. Now, like, that's who my nephew

0:26:11.000 --> 0:26:12.919
<v Speaker 4>dresses up as. That's who kids that con dress up as.

0:26:12.920 --> 0:26:15.000
<v Speaker 4>It doesn't matter who it is. Miles Morle has that suit,

0:26:15.320 --> 0:26:18.680
<v Speaker 4>that beautiful red and black suit, the sneakers like that

0:26:18.840 --> 0:26:21.200
<v Speaker 4>is and obviously into the Spider Verse. Just the best

0:26:21.240 --> 0:26:24.239
<v Speaker 4>Spider Man movie of all time. And yeah that I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's such a great recommendation because that's another one too,

0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:30.040
<v Speaker 4>where like a lot of times, getting into comics, it's

0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:32.520
<v Speaker 4>sporadic issues. Yeah yeah, but oh I'm a Spider Man.

0:26:32.600 --> 0:26:35.040
<v Speaker 4>That is like Jason said, like one hundred and sixty issues.

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<v Speaker 4>You can just dive in there and go on a journey,

0:26:37.040 --> 0:26:40.240
<v Speaker 4>like a decade long class journey, and you'll be in

0:26:40.280 --> 0:26:43.520
<v Speaker 4>a really good space to understand Miles and where he

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<v Speaker 4>comes from. And then the best thing about comics, there

0:26:46.600 --> 0:26:48.919
<v Speaker 4>are other great Miles stories told by people more like

0:26:48.960 --> 0:26:51.040
<v Speaker 4>Miles now, so you kind of get to see the

0:26:51.080 --> 0:26:53.600
<v Speaker 4>evolution of that character. That's so cool.

0:26:54.280 --> 0:26:57.560
<v Speaker 1>One more round of entry arcs for new readers, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we'll go to some of our favorite art and

0:27:00.840 --> 0:27:03.000
<v Speaker 1>trade zig Uh.

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<v Speaker 3>You know what, I think I've tapped out my Marvel

0:27:05.880 --> 0:27:09.040
<v Speaker 3>like I got I'll shout out for Hawkeye, Fractured Idges,

0:27:09.080 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 3>Hawkeye just because Hawkeye is dropping. It's fantasic, fantastic art,

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:16.280
<v Speaker 3>really really funny, great stuff. But for another non DC,

0:27:16.480 --> 0:27:22.520
<v Speaker 3>non Marvel, Kirkman's Invincible, much like like Ultimate spider Man

0:27:22.640 --> 0:27:24.840
<v Speaker 3>Businesses spider Man is also I think it's like one

0:27:24.880 --> 0:27:28.439
<v Speaker 3>hundred and twenty something issues like that. I truthfully, I

0:27:28.480 --> 0:27:30.440
<v Speaker 3>just re read them all, like not too long ago

0:27:30.440 --> 0:27:32.960
<v Speaker 3>when an Invincible TV show came out, so like it's

0:27:33.000 --> 0:27:37.119
<v Speaker 3>a nice modern take on on like this Peter Parker

0:27:37.160 --> 0:27:39.640
<v Speaker 3>story subbed in for like little mix of Peter park

0:27:39.680 --> 0:27:43.400
<v Speaker 3>a little mix of Spider Man or of Superman. Yeah,

0:27:43.440 --> 0:27:49.119
<v Speaker 3>and beautiful art Ryan Yes, just artist fantastic, Like the

0:27:49.359 --> 0:27:51.920
<v Speaker 3>the way that they also sort of have a running

0:27:51.960 --> 0:27:54.040
<v Speaker 3>theme of their jokes where they'll just have love repeated

0:27:54.080 --> 0:27:56.119
<v Speaker 3>panels like I love that, Like I I steal that

0:27:56.160 --> 0:27:57.880
<v Speaker 3>from my own work because I think it's very fun. Also,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:27:59.399
<v Speaker 3>it's very economic if you're trying to.

0:27:59.440 --> 0:28:01.200
<v Speaker 4>Get a story fun, because it's a really met a

0:28:01.280 --> 0:28:03.760
<v Speaker 4>joke where it's like it's partially done because of economy,

0:28:03.760 --> 0:28:05.840
<v Speaker 4>but it's also sometimes done as the joke of you

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:08.199
<v Speaker 4>thinking it's economy, so you're like it's cheaper to just

0:28:08.240 --> 0:28:11.359
<v Speaker 4>and quicker to just. So it's like a comic about

0:28:11.359 --> 0:28:13.320
<v Speaker 4>making comics as well, which is really fun.

0:28:13.400 --> 0:28:16.600
<v Speaker 3>It's really fun. I really recommend it. It's great seeing

0:28:16.640 --> 0:28:19.440
<v Speaker 3>an anyhow, any comic like that that has also sort

0:28:19.440 --> 0:28:22.399
<v Speaker 3>of broken too the barrier, not unlike Spawn or Boy.

0:28:22.720 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 3>And it's also just getting a nice fresh take like

0:28:24.760 --> 0:28:26.600
<v Speaker 3>most of the comic calls up, there's some stuff that

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:29.720
<v Speaker 3>is like, oh boy, this was obviously not written in

0:28:29.800 --> 0:28:33.000
<v Speaker 3>this point, but it's it's still still really really fun

0:28:33.040 --> 0:28:34.560
<v Speaker 3>read and highly recommend. If you're going to get like

0:28:34.600 --> 0:28:36.719
<v Speaker 3>a new sort of span on like the Spider Man,

0:28:36.800 --> 0:28:39.080
<v Speaker 3>Superman Lore, the fresh fresh eyes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm going to go for something that's like a

0:28:42.360 --> 0:28:44.120
<v Speaker 4>farm more out there. But if you if you grew

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:46.600
<v Speaker 4>up on like a Calvin and Hobbes or you like

0:28:46.640 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 4>strip cartooning that kind of stuff, but you also like

0:28:49.080 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 4>too There's this unbelievable book from twenty fifteen called Super

0:28:52.160 --> 0:28:54.800
<v Speaker 4>Mutant Magic Academy, which is by Jillian Tamaki, who's the

0:28:54.800 --> 0:28:59.120
<v Speaker 4>most incredible cartoonist, and it's basically it's a series of

0:28:59.360 --> 0:29:02.480
<v Speaker 4>one or two comics that are interlinked about a group

0:29:02.520 --> 0:29:04.400
<v Speaker 4>of kids at like a magic school, and it's kind

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 4>of Harry Potter meets Xaviers, but it's super funny, and

0:29:08.600 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 4>it can go kind of like Kellyn's. It can go

0:29:10.360 --> 0:29:14.440
<v Speaker 4>from these really humorous panels about like teenage weirdness to

0:29:14.600 --> 0:29:17.440
<v Speaker 4>a character who he's just he never dies and it's

0:29:17.480 --> 0:29:21.160
<v Speaker 4>like this existential nightmare throughout the comic. And that is

0:29:21.200 --> 0:29:24.440
<v Speaker 4>like one. The book is beautiful. It's like this big, chunky,

0:29:24.440 --> 0:29:26.400
<v Speaker 4>square book and that you can get that in most

0:29:26.400 --> 0:29:28.760
<v Speaker 4>local comic book shops at your library. Libraries love that

0:29:28.800 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 4>book and it is just so much fun and it's

0:29:32.080 --> 0:29:37.280
<v Speaker 4>really kind of weird and smart and silly and totally independent.

0:29:37.400 --> 0:29:39.600
<v Speaker 4>And I think that is just a really cool space

0:29:39.640 --> 0:29:41.479
<v Speaker 4>if you want to start dipping your toes into more

0:29:41.560 --> 0:29:45.920
<v Speaker 4>kind of like experimental cartooning or indie comics. And Jillian

0:29:46.120 --> 0:29:48.080
<v Speaker 4>has done a bunch of amazing books, including this one

0:29:48.120 --> 0:29:51.320
<v Speaker 4>Summer with Marico Tomki. So there's just it's a great

0:29:51.360 --> 0:29:53.719
<v Speaker 4>place to start. But it is so fun, especially if

0:29:53.760 --> 0:29:55.680
<v Speaker 4>you like X Men, You'll just be living life because

0:29:55.680 --> 0:29:58.520
<v Speaker 4>it is like it's like the funniest, weirdest X Men parody.

0:29:59.280 --> 0:30:01.239
<v Speaker 2>I will I'm putting that on my list right now.

0:30:01.720 --> 0:30:03.760
<v Speaker 4>It's so good. It's like, I will go to the

0:30:03.800 --> 0:30:05.320
<v Speaker 4>book is beautiful, Like if you love to have a

0:30:05.400 --> 0:30:07.320
<v Speaker 4>nice book on your shelves, just go and buy it.

0:30:07.320 --> 0:30:09.840
<v Speaker 4>It's like it's so good, it's so so good.

0:30:10.480 --> 0:30:11.680
<v Speaker 3>I'm literally buying it right now.

0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:17.680
<v Speaker 1>Jillians, I love so to jump in and learn about stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>I am going to pick.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, early two thousand's Marvel was kind of like

0:30:23.400 --> 0:30:26.960
<v Speaker 1>defined by certain creators. I think Brian Michael Bendas is

0:30:27.000 --> 0:30:31.680
<v Speaker 1>probably the big one, And so I'm going to say

0:30:32.640 --> 0:30:37.600
<v Speaker 1>Avengers Disassembled into which is like a self contained arc.

0:30:37.640 --> 0:30:40.520
<v Speaker 1>You can get it as a trade into. Brian Michael

0:30:40.560 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>Bendis with David Fintion and Steve Mcnivin's new Avengers run,

0:30:46.600 --> 0:30:49.720
<v Speaker 1>which is so the Avengers have broken up, one of

0:30:49.720 --> 0:31:01.480
<v Speaker 1>the many many many make the country. But it's so

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<v Speaker 1>The great thing about Avengers Disassembled is you you read

0:31:05.200 --> 0:31:08.200
<v Speaker 1>it great art, and you feel like, wow, this is

0:31:08.680 --> 0:31:09.960
<v Speaker 1>this is this is it.

0:31:10.080 --> 0:31:12.040
<v Speaker 2>The Avengers are no more. I can't believe it.

0:31:12.120 --> 0:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>There's like people holding up candles outside the Avengers mansion.

0:31:15.280 --> 0:31:18.760
<v Speaker 1>This is this is first, this is a cataclysm.

0:31:19.160 --> 0:31:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Meanwhile, it's like the Avengers.

0:31:20.400 --> 0:31:22.320
<v Speaker 3>Have broken up like a dozen times.

0:31:22.360 --> 0:31:26.480
<v Speaker 1>Don't worry, don't worry about it. But running into new Avengers,

0:31:27.000 --> 0:31:31.920
<v Speaker 1>you get this. You get a new team as Earth's

0:31:31.960 --> 0:31:35.080
<v Speaker 1>mightiest heroes try and figure it out. They don't have

0:31:35.240 --> 0:31:38.440
<v Speaker 1>the kind of financial backing of Tony Stark anymore. It's

0:31:38.440 --> 0:31:39.880
<v Speaker 1>gonna look more rough and ready.

0:31:40.600 --> 0:31:40.800
<v Speaker 3>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's a really cool mix of characters including you know, Wolverine,

0:31:47.600 --> 0:31:52.760
<v Speaker 1>Captain Marvel, you know Clint Barton in the Ronan costume

0:31:53.560 --> 0:31:59.120
<v Speaker 1>for some reason. But it's super fun and it threads

0:31:59.200 --> 0:32:02.400
<v Speaker 1>through a lot of the big events that happened during

0:32:02.400 --> 0:32:05.760
<v Speaker 1>that era, Civil War, siege, etc. And so you get

0:32:05.800 --> 0:32:10.400
<v Speaker 1>like this kind of smattering of big events and it

0:32:10.640 --> 0:32:15.080
<v Speaker 1>takes you basically up to the stuff that's happening now

0:32:15.120 --> 0:32:19.719
<v Speaker 1>as a launch Pad, really fun run with you know,

0:32:19.760 --> 0:32:23.719
<v Speaker 1>big fights, lots of stakes and that kind of like

0:32:23.960 --> 0:32:26.960
<v Speaker 1>bend to see a lot of words coming at you,

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<v Speaker 1>but in a great way. So check it out. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>go to our favorite graphic novels and or comic runs.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually these runs are going to be contained in trades

0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.520
<v Speaker 1>that are easy for people to pick up.

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<v Speaker 2>So let's start with Musig What do you got.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm going to go with a truly indie indie book

0:32:55.560 --> 0:32:58.720
<v Speaker 3>as a series called Very Near Mint by Justin Peterson.

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:01.160
<v Speaker 3>I think think I found it when I was in

0:33:01.320 --> 0:33:03.760
<v Speaker 3>art school. Uh. He had like a random Kickstarter. I

0:33:03.760 --> 0:33:05.920
<v Speaker 3>was like, it's basically Clerks in a comic book shop.

0:33:06.000 --> 0:33:08.000
<v Speaker 3>Was like I got to read this, uh and and

0:33:08.000 --> 0:33:10.680
<v Speaker 3>and it's great. It's super super funny. It has that

0:33:10.760 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 3>indie spirits like it's a it's a black and white comic.

0:33:13.600 --> 0:33:15.240
<v Speaker 3>And my first one to one with that is with

0:33:15.280 --> 0:33:17.120
<v Speaker 3>Clerks because it was also, yeah, they couldn't afford to

0:33:17.280 --> 0:33:19.240
<v Speaker 3>pay for color films, so they did it black and white.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 3>It's super super funny. Justin has got a very funny

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:25.440
<v Speaker 3>sense of style. I love his art. I love anything

0:33:25.480 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 3>that that that that that sticks the landing on being

0:33:28.040 --> 0:33:30.200
<v Speaker 3>a piece of indie art made for a very beach audience,

0:33:30.200 --> 0:33:32.760
<v Speaker 3>which is comic book fans, but then also combook fans

0:33:32.760 --> 0:33:35.640
<v Speaker 3>that are aware of how other combook fans actually and

0:33:35.640 --> 0:33:36.000
<v Speaker 3>and like.

0:33:35.920 --> 0:33:38.800
<v Speaker 4>How comic shops work, and like that kind of interior,

0:33:39.000 --> 0:33:41.720
<v Speaker 4>the kind of stuff that we talk about between off friends,

0:33:42.080 --> 0:33:44.320
<v Speaker 4>like and ann your local shop and stuff that's really

0:33:44.360 --> 0:33:45.080
<v Speaker 4>hard to capture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I I I think you can. I know that

0:33:47.920 --> 0:33:49.680
<v Speaker 3>you can buy I think it might be mostly out

0:33:49.680 --> 0:33:51.479
<v Speaker 3>of print, but you can buy a PDF of it

0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.600
<v Speaker 3>from Justin's website. I think it's probably like volume one

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<v Speaker 3>maybe on Amazon or something like that. But I highly

0:33:57.240 --> 0:33:58.800
<v Speaker 3>recommend I looking for something that's like a little bit

0:33:58.920 --> 0:34:00.680
<v Speaker 3>off the beaten path, and also if looking for like

0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:04.440
<v Speaker 3>as flat out comedy graphic novel series very near man.

0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:06.360
<v Speaker 3>I think there's three volumes out and I think you

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:07.920
<v Speaker 3>may have done a couple like shorts and stuff too.

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<v Speaker 3>High recommend that if you can find it, really really

0:34:10.360 --> 0:34:12.640
<v Speaker 3>great series. And also it's a nice just a different take,

0:34:12.680 --> 0:34:14.120
<v Speaker 3>and I think on what a lot of people think

0:34:14.120 --> 0:34:16.920
<v Speaker 3>comics of being like capes in superheroes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, mine, I'm going to go for another black

0:34:19.520 --> 0:34:21.239
<v Speaker 4>and white comic too, and this is We've been talking

0:34:21.280 --> 0:34:23.320
<v Speaker 4>a lot about these arcs that you can just jump

0:34:23.360 --> 0:34:25.600
<v Speaker 4>into and have like four years. So mine is Love

0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:28.200
<v Speaker 4>and Rockets by the Hernandez put Yeah, I love them

0:34:28.239 --> 0:34:32.080
<v Speaker 4>so much. This is like the ultimate indie comic. It's

0:34:32.080 --> 0:34:35.399
<v Speaker 4>been going on for decades now. And the cool thing

0:34:35.480 --> 0:34:37.920
<v Speaker 4>is it's if you want, it's very easy to collect

0:34:37.960 --> 0:34:40.520
<v Speaker 4>the first like fifty issues of magazine size. It's really

0:34:40.520 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 4>fun thing to collect. But Fantagraphics has a ton of

0:34:42.840 --> 0:34:46.439
<v Speaker 4>really cool story collections where they collect together arcs about

0:34:46.440 --> 0:34:49.239
<v Speaker 4>different characters because it's kind of nonlinear in that way.

0:34:49.239 --> 0:34:52.000
<v Speaker 4>But there's two major aspects of the story. There's the

0:34:52.640 --> 0:34:55.200
<v Speaker 4>Maggie and Hopie, who are two friends slash on time

0:34:55.719 --> 0:34:58.560
<v Speaker 4>like lovers on and off, and they're in the punk

0:34:58.600 --> 0:35:01.880
<v Speaker 4>scene in La the Mexican punk scene in La in

0:35:02.080 --> 0:35:05.760
<v Speaker 4>the kind of seventies eighties, and they grow up real time,

0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:08.120
<v Speaker 4>so now they have grown up as you read the book.

0:35:08.480 --> 0:35:10.719
<v Speaker 4>And then there's a Palomar, which is kind of this

0:35:11.120 --> 0:35:13.799
<v Speaker 4>small town and the lives of people who live there

0:35:13.840 --> 0:35:15.719
<v Speaker 4>and they are just like this is some of the

0:35:15.719 --> 0:35:18.120
<v Speaker 4>best cartooning I have, Like multiple Love and Rocket status,

0:35:18.200 --> 0:35:19.440
<v Speaker 4>the Henandez Bros.

0:35:19.200 --> 0:35:21.000
<v Speaker 3>Are La Edges.

0:35:21.480 --> 0:35:24.120
<v Speaker 4>You can go to any convention, Yere and Hi May

0:35:24.160 --> 0:35:26.359
<v Speaker 4>Will and Gilbert will just be their chilling sign in.

0:35:26.440 --> 0:35:28.799
<v Speaker 4>Like I almost died the first time the first time

0:35:28.840 --> 0:35:30.920
<v Speaker 4>I went to Comic On. They were at the fanographics

0:35:30.920 --> 0:35:33.000
<v Speaker 4>table and Grant Morrison was at the heavy metal table,

0:35:33.040 --> 0:35:34.880
<v Speaker 4>and I was like, what the fuck is this? What? What?

0:35:35.320 --> 0:35:37.200
<v Speaker 4>This is? What you guys get at San Diego? You

0:35:37.239 --> 0:35:39.839
<v Speaker 4>can just go and and yeah, they're really great if

0:35:39.920 --> 0:35:42.799
<v Speaker 4>you love rock music, if you love punk, if you

0:35:42.880 --> 0:35:45.240
<v Speaker 4>love comics, if you want to read a queer comic

0:35:45.280 --> 0:35:48.000
<v Speaker 4>that's been going on for like forty years, the early

0:35:48.040 --> 0:35:51.880
<v Speaker 4>stuff Maggie the Mechanic that's very sci fi, very influential

0:35:51.920 --> 0:35:53.880
<v Speaker 4>on like Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, stuff like that. And I

0:35:54.000 --> 0:35:56.799
<v Speaker 4>just I cannot sing the praises of that book enough.

0:35:56.840 --> 0:35:58.200
<v Speaker 4>And it's the kind again kind of book you can

0:35:58.239 --> 0:35:58.840
<v Speaker 4>give to anyone.

0:35:59.600 --> 0:36:01.880
<v Speaker 3>This this is just tangerous with that. But have you

0:36:01.920 --> 0:36:04.240
<v Speaker 3>read The Queen of the Rings the right wrestling drawings?

0:36:04.320 --> 0:36:07.640
<v Speaker 4>Of course ten ten was waiting for that for so long.

0:36:08.120 --> 0:36:09.919
<v Speaker 3>It's just if you're looking for just like a nice

0:36:10.040 --> 0:36:12.320
<v Speaker 3>art book by her behind me her Nandez. It's just

0:36:12.400 --> 0:36:15.680
<v Speaker 3>him drawing a bunch of fantastic female wrestlers from from

0:36:15.680 --> 0:36:17.160
<v Speaker 3>all the decades. It's a nice little material.

0:36:17.280 --> 0:36:18.759
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and I think it's like it's like thirty five

0:36:18.760 --> 0:36:20.520
<v Speaker 4>dollars or something from panographics. I thought it was gonna

0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:22.239
<v Speaker 4>be like one hundred and fifty dollars art book. But

0:36:22.280 --> 0:36:24.200
<v Speaker 4>I went to hiding her comics and I was like, Wow,

0:36:24.360 --> 0:36:26.920
<v Speaker 4>this is afootable and I love it. Yeah, that's and

0:36:26.920 --> 0:36:29.840
<v Speaker 4>that's another thing. There's a whole bunch of wrestling and

0:36:29.920 --> 0:36:33.480
<v Speaker 4>kind of like the like female wrestling characters throughout. So

0:36:33.560 --> 0:36:37.560
<v Speaker 4>it's just a really eclectic, wonderful set of comics.

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.800
<v Speaker 1>I am going to pick I'm going to go India

0:36:39.800 --> 0:36:44.680
<v Speaker 1>as well. I'm gonna pick Fantasy Sports and I volume

0:36:45.520 --> 0:36:50.040
<v Speaker 1>and three volumes one, two, and three, Like how to

0:36:50.120 --> 0:36:51.440
<v Speaker 1>explain it?

0:36:50.600 --> 0:36:51.799
<v Speaker 2>So that it is.

0:36:52.000 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>It follows the adventures of Wiz and Mug, a young

0:36:55.560 --> 0:37:00.839
<v Speaker 1>girl and her her muscle bound friend, and they take

0:37:00.880 --> 0:37:06.800
<v Speaker 1>on various sports themed challenges and it's just an absolute delight.

0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:10.239
<v Speaker 1>The art style is like the best way I could

0:37:10.280 --> 0:37:12.120
<v Speaker 1>describe it is when I was a kid and I

0:37:12.239 --> 0:37:14.359
<v Speaker 1>was and I was drawing a lot this.

0:37:14.480 --> 0:37:17.759
<v Speaker 2>Is what I wish. It's like.

0:37:19.440 --> 0:37:23.600
<v Speaker 1>Just so detailed, beautiful, like manga meets Mike mgnola kind

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.680
<v Speaker 1>of style. And yeah, it's an over It comes in

0:37:27.719 --> 0:37:32.600
<v Speaker 1>an oversized hardcover three volume edition. You can get it.

0:37:32.640 --> 0:37:34.120
<v Speaker 1>You can order it through your local comic shop, you

0:37:34.160 --> 0:37:36.960
<v Speaker 1>can order through a bookshop. You can order it from Amazon.

0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:37.920
<v Speaker 2>If you wish.

0:37:38.040 --> 0:37:43.200
<v Speaker 1>And it's just beautiful and all ages. If you're not

0:37:43.840 --> 0:37:46.200
<v Speaker 1>a you don't need to know a lot of lore

0:37:46.360 --> 0:37:49.399
<v Speaker 1>to read it. You can give it to a kid

0:37:49.440 --> 0:37:52.160
<v Speaker 1>and they would love it. As an adult, you will

0:37:52.200 --> 0:37:57.080
<v Speaker 1>love it. It's just fantastic. You can't I can't recommend it Highland.

0:37:56.800 --> 0:38:00.399
<v Speaker 4>Rare English language sports comic and it's that mixture. Yeah,

0:38:00.440 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 4>and it takes that manga sports comic vibe that puts

0:38:03.040 --> 0:38:05.759
<v Speaker 4>it in this really extreme like fantasy. I love that.

0:38:05.800 --> 0:38:07.239
<v Speaker 4>As soon as I saw that, I was like, I

0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:11.720
<v Speaker 4>hope that's what It's so good. That is just so good.

0:38:12.040 --> 0:38:13.000
<v Speaker 4>I love those books.

0:38:14.160 --> 0:38:16.480
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm gonna You know, since you mentioned

0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 3>the the sort of manga inspiration for fancay sports, I

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:21.120
<v Speaker 3>gotta do. Scott Pilgrim.

0:38:21.360 --> 0:38:21.480
<v Speaker 1>Uh.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:26.239
<v Speaker 3>It was one of the first first non superhero DC

0:38:26.400 --> 0:38:29.479
<v Speaker 3>Marvel comics that I read or graphic novels that I read.

0:38:30.040 --> 0:38:31.719
<v Speaker 3>I also was like a little punk shithead when I

0:38:31.719 --> 0:38:33.600
<v Speaker 3>was in when I was younger, so like I could

0:38:33.719 --> 0:38:38.120
<v Speaker 3>very much relates. I was very much. Oh yeah, I've

0:38:38.200 --> 0:38:40.239
<v Speaker 3>played at those type of shows and met those type

0:38:40.239 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 3>of people. Like it very much captured what I what

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:45.440
<v Speaker 3>I thought my twenties was being in like a shitty,

0:38:45.520 --> 0:38:48.880
<v Speaker 3>shitty band. Scott does not hold up too much.

0:38:48.760 --> 0:38:50.960
<v Speaker 4>Now, I think that's the point there, right, Like you

0:38:51.080 --> 0:38:52.120
<v Speaker 4>grow and you're like, yeah.

0:38:52.000 --> 0:38:55.680
<v Speaker 3>Scott's an asshole, like anyone else should Kim Pine really

0:38:55.719 --> 0:38:58.319
<v Speaker 3>should have been the hero of this. Yeah, but it's great,

0:38:58.560 --> 0:39:01.680
<v Speaker 3>it's great. I think they released some colored versions.

0:39:01.400 --> 0:39:03.640
<v Speaker 4>Now, have the beautiful Brian actually I think colored them

0:39:03.680 --> 0:39:04.439
<v Speaker 4>himself as well.

0:39:04.520 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so like if you want to get a text

0:39:06.560 --> 0:39:08.400
<v Speaker 3>for either one, like I personally love the black and

0:39:08.440 --> 0:39:09.160
<v Speaker 3>white stuff.

0:39:09.160 --> 0:39:12.160
<v Speaker 4>And only then they're all like manga side. Yeah, it's

0:39:12.239 --> 0:39:15.440
<v Speaker 4>really nice, easy to read. Yeah, that is such a

0:39:15.480 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 4>great And if you like the movie, which obviously is

0:39:18.080 --> 0:39:20.719
<v Speaker 4>like so iconic, the book is really great because it

0:39:20.800 --> 0:39:23.319
<v Speaker 4>just expands. It's so similar, but it just you get

0:39:23.400 --> 0:39:25.600
<v Speaker 4>more time with Kim, you get more time with Ramony,

0:39:25.640 --> 0:39:28.000
<v Speaker 4>you get more time with Knives obviously Justice for Knives

0:39:28.080 --> 0:39:33.520
<v Speaker 4>like the best character. Like I just I love Scott Pilgrim.

0:39:33.640 --> 0:39:35.319
<v Speaker 4>I'm so stoked you picked that because that is like

0:39:35.400 --> 0:39:37.839
<v Speaker 4>I love Brianley, O'Malley. I love Seconds as well. It's

0:39:37.880 --> 0:39:39.960
<v Speaker 4>like one of my favorite books. But Scott Pilgrim is

0:39:40.239 --> 0:39:42.040
<v Speaker 4>that's another great give it to anyone.

0:39:41.840 --> 0:39:44.239
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, yeah, anyone can get it, especially now that

0:39:44.360 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 3>like people are into these things now it's not just

0:39:46.560 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 3>niche as being like, oh I'm into video games, but

0:39:48.200 --> 0:39:50.600
<v Speaker 3>also you know music and all that stuff, like everyone's

0:39:50.760 --> 0:39:53.480
<v Speaker 3>doing that. Yeah, it's great. It's a really fun easy

0:39:53.520 --> 0:39:56.200
<v Speaker 3>into that. And also you can see like like like

0:39:56.200 --> 0:39:59.000
<v Speaker 3>like like she said, you can get a bigger expansion

0:39:59.040 --> 0:40:00.840
<v Speaker 3>like what was sort of pair down from the film

0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:02.920
<v Speaker 3>that I think, you know, eggar Wright knocked out of

0:40:02.920 --> 0:40:05.480
<v Speaker 3>the park. I could really captured the spirit of pokem

0:40:05.480 --> 0:40:06.080
<v Speaker 3>books as well.

0:40:06.320 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well we did a lot of like manga influence.

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.920
<v Speaker 4>So I'm going to do I got three manga books

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.239
<v Speaker 4>on my list. Okay, so I'm gonna go for the

0:40:14.280 --> 0:40:17.120
<v Speaker 4>classic because we're doing kind of good in way, So

0:40:17.120 --> 0:40:20.680
<v Speaker 4>I'm gonna go for Kira by Cats Heiro Tomu at Tomo.

0:40:20.719 --> 0:40:23.919
<v Speaker 4>It's like one of the best comics ever made. It's

0:40:23.960 --> 0:40:27.719
<v Speaker 4>super easy to read because they have these huge telephone

0:40:27.760 --> 0:40:30.760
<v Speaker 4>book sized collections that you can get any comic shop.

0:40:32.320 --> 0:40:38.080
<v Speaker 4>It is a dystopian, sprawling sci fi masterpiece. If you've

0:40:38.080 --> 0:40:40.880
<v Speaker 4>seen the movie, that's literally like one book, if not

0:40:40.960 --> 0:40:42.799
<v Speaker 4>a little bit less than one book. So there's a

0:40:42.800 --> 0:40:46.040
<v Speaker 4>lot to deep dive into. One of the most influential

0:40:46.400 --> 0:40:50.200
<v Speaker 4>aesthetic of all time, movie and book. The art is

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.239
<v Speaker 4>so dense and incredible, and you could look at those

0:40:54.320 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 4>I've got the full set that Dark Horse did with

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.520
<v Speaker 4>all of the books. You can look at them for days.

0:40:58.560 --> 0:41:00.799
<v Speaker 3>I hate so much going on, what's going on?

0:41:01.040 --> 0:41:03.600
<v Speaker 4>And and you can literally if you commit to it

0:41:03.640 --> 0:41:06.200
<v Speaker 4>and you buy those collections, you could enjoy that for years.

0:41:06.480 --> 0:41:08.319
<v Speaker 4>Like you can read one, you can take it in

0:41:08.600 --> 0:41:09.839
<v Speaker 4>and then you can take a break and you can

0:41:09.880 --> 0:41:13.879
<v Speaker 4>read another one, and like it is just so good

0:41:14.120 --> 0:41:16.319
<v Speaker 4>and it is obviously always just go back and watch

0:41:16.320 --> 0:41:17.719
<v Speaker 4>a Carror as well. It's like one of the best

0:41:17.719 --> 0:41:21.200
<v Speaker 4>movies ever made. But that is such a great place

0:41:21.719 --> 0:41:24.640
<v Speaker 4>if you want to get into. I wouldn't say, like, oh,

0:41:24.760 --> 0:41:26.239
<v Speaker 4>read that if you just want to get into manga,

0:41:26.280 --> 0:41:29.400
<v Speaker 4>because you could probably read like Bleach or or a

0:41:29.520 --> 0:41:32.040
<v Speaker 4>Ramd Mahalf or anything that's a bit more accessible. But

0:41:32.120 --> 0:41:34.560
<v Speaker 4>if you want to get something, you can just totally

0:41:34.600 --> 0:41:36.840
<v Speaker 4>lose yourself in and read one of the most like

0:41:36.920 --> 0:41:38.680
<v Speaker 4>influential sci fi a different tier.

0:41:38.880 --> 0:41:41.840
<v Speaker 3>It's a different tier of like yeah, of of a

0:41:41.880 --> 0:41:43.399
<v Speaker 3>book that you're reading. When it comes to that, it's

0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:45.759
<v Speaker 3>not just like dragon Balls your Hunter Hunter, it's like, oh,

0:41:45.800 --> 0:41:46.720
<v Speaker 3>this is yeah.

0:41:46.520 --> 0:41:48.200
<v Speaker 4>You know what's gonna happen. They get have some sick fight,

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.400
<v Speaker 4>like go and find some gems, like yeah.

0:41:52.360 --> 0:41:54.400
<v Speaker 3>Maybe there's a monkey that has any exactly.

0:41:54.600 --> 0:41:56.480
<v Speaker 4>But the other thing about a Curreror as well is

0:41:56.840 --> 0:41:59.880
<v Speaker 4>I think if you are an American comics reader or

0:42:00.000 --> 0:42:02.359
<v Speaker 4>even just a fan of American sci fi movies, and

0:42:02.760 --> 0:42:04.080
<v Speaker 4>that is a book where you will read it and

0:42:04.160 --> 0:42:07.200
<v Speaker 4>you'll be like, oh, I see that's where they got

0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:09.319
<v Speaker 4>that from. Like yeah, even and if you love like

0:42:09.360 --> 0:42:11.000
<v Speaker 4>an artist, like I know me and Jason talking about

0:42:11.040 --> 0:42:13.160
<v Speaker 4>a lot, but like our Adams is such an incredible artist.

0:42:13.200 --> 0:42:16.239
<v Speaker 4>There's a lot of similarities. They're they're dense, like beautiful,

0:42:16.280 --> 0:42:18.839
<v Speaker 4>intricate in depth work that you can just look at

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:22.480
<v Speaker 4>for hours. So Akira is always Oh and you know

0:42:22.480 --> 0:42:24.840
<v Speaker 4>what else, I actually do love that, I always do shout.

0:42:25.680 --> 0:42:28.000
<v Speaker 4>Marvel did a really weird thing in the nineties where

0:42:28.000 --> 0:42:31.279
<v Speaker 4>they put a ton of money and got mobius like

0:42:32.120 --> 0:42:36.040
<v Speaker 4>the icon, and they bought everyone in to make these

0:42:36.680 --> 0:42:40.880
<v Speaker 4>for Epic, their imprint Epic. They made these colored reprints

0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:45.680
<v Speaker 4>of Akira single issues, and so they changed the direction,

0:42:45.760 --> 0:42:47.840
<v Speaker 4>which I never agree with, but they made it. Basically,

0:42:47.880 --> 0:42:52.120
<v Speaker 4>they spent the time and effort to take this Japanese

0:42:52.239 --> 0:42:54.359
<v Speaker 4>comic and translate it in a way that they would

0:42:54.360 --> 0:42:57.920
<v Speaker 4>hope would make it accessible for American readers. But if

0:42:57.920 --> 0:42:59.799
<v Speaker 4>you can get your hands on that, the colored art

0:42:59.880 --> 0:43:03.320
<v Speaker 4>is so cool and it was all done like Catsira

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:05.440
<v Speaker 4>was involved to an extent. I have I have actually

0:43:05.480 --> 0:43:07.959
<v Speaker 4>had got that whole collection of the single issues because

0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:10.320
<v Speaker 4>it's just so cool to look at. So any version

0:43:10.320 --> 0:43:13.520
<v Speaker 4>of a Kira you can pick up American reprint single

0:43:13.560 --> 0:43:16.040
<v Speaker 4>issue versions, you can pick up those big dark Horse

0:43:16.080 --> 0:43:18.680
<v Speaker 4>telephone books, which are probably also at your library at

0:43:18.680 --> 0:43:21.319
<v Speaker 4>this point, and yeah, just just have some fun with that,

0:43:21.360 --> 0:43:23.279
<v Speaker 4>because that is a that's a fucking.

0:43:22.960 --> 0:43:27.040
<v Speaker 2>Cool book, man. I Wow, these are also great.

0:43:27.120 --> 0:43:31.280
<v Speaker 1>I am gonna pick Uh We Three by Grant Morrison

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:36.960
<v Speaker 1>and Frank Quietly for issue limited series UH trade paperback.

0:43:37.000 --> 0:43:39.279
<v Speaker 1>You know, like listen, if you got into comics, if

0:43:39.280 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you like nerd stuff, if you like comics, you you're

0:43:43.560 --> 0:43:45.960
<v Speaker 1>an outsider. At one point in your life you felt

0:43:45.960 --> 0:43:48.680
<v Speaker 1>like I needed, I need I need a different perspective.

0:43:48.840 --> 0:43:52.640
<v Speaker 1>I feel like I am I'm not in a I'm

0:43:52.680 --> 0:43:55.320
<v Speaker 1>out of step with the world. Is probably a feeling

0:43:55.360 --> 0:43:56.280
<v Speaker 1>you felt, and.

0:43:56.560 --> 0:43:59.719
<v Speaker 2>We Three captures that. It will break your heart.

0:44:00.120 --> 0:44:01.759
<v Speaker 4>Jason's trying to make you cry. It is trying to

0:44:01.800 --> 0:44:02.200
<v Speaker 4>make you cry.

0:44:02.920 --> 0:44:03.839
<v Speaker 2>It will break your heart.

0:44:04.480 --> 0:44:09.640
<v Speaker 1>It is about It is about three animals who is

0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:14.719
<v Speaker 1>who uh escape from a military testing facility where they

0:44:14.800 --> 0:44:18.719
<v Speaker 1>were turned into weapons and they just want to live

0:44:18.760 --> 0:44:24.240
<v Speaker 1>a peaceful life and they are such close, loving friends

0:44:24.280 --> 0:44:24.919
<v Speaker 1>to each other.

0:44:25.680 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Uh.

0:44:26.080 --> 0:44:30.640
<v Speaker 1>And this story will absolutely it will crush you happy ending,

0:44:30.680 --> 0:44:34.319
<v Speaker 1>but on the way there it will fucking.

0:44:35.680 --> 0:44:38.879
<v Speaker 4>It's so basical like that. That is the comic where

0:44:38.880 --> 0:44:40.799
<v Speaker 4>when I worked in a comic shop, and if i've

0:44:41.000 --> 0:44:43.359
<v Speaker 4>if I have relatives or someone who's been given it,

0:44:43.440 --> 0:44:45.279
<v Speaker 4>that is the number one comic where people go, oh,

0:44:45.280 --> 0:44:48.640
<v Speaker 4>when's the next part? Because you can't believe like the four,

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:53.560
<v Speaker 4>you get so absolutely connected and invested. It's like it's

0:44:53.600 --> 0:44:56.040
<v Speaker 4>heartbreaking that there's no more, but it's also perfect.

0:44:56.160 --> 0:44:58.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so yeahful.

0:44:58.880 --> 0:44:59.600
<v Speaker 2>It will crush you.

0:44:59.640 --> 0:45:05.240
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you will Frank quietly, Frank quietly and Morrison together.

0:45:05.680 --> 0:45:13.279
<v Speaker 1>It's like the perfect melding of immense creativity, like like

0:45:13.480 --> 0:45:20.040
<v Speaker 1>grounded fresh flesh and blood, uh, imagery and textures and

0:45:20.160 --> 0:45:21.359
<v Speaker 1>just pure imagination.

0:45:21.560 --> 0:45:24.080
<v Speaker 2>And again, this book.

0:45:23.880 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 5>Will bres It will break your heart if you are

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:32.560
<v Speaker 5>the if you are the type of comic book reader,

0:45:32.600 --> 0:45:35.080
<v Speaker 5>slash nerd person who's.

0:45:34.880 --> 0:45:38.359
<v Speaker 1>Like I've always felt outside of things, get ready because

0:45:38.600 --> 0:45:41.520
<v Speaker 1>three is going to stab you in the chist and.

0:45:41.800 --> 0:45:44.400
<v Speaker 4>He hasn't, like Jason hasn't even half prepared you, Like,

0:45:44.600 --> 0:45:45.680
<v Speaker 4>thank he's being hyperbolic.

0:45:45.920 --> 0:45:51.160
<v Speaker 3>This is actually soft to go through. Yeah, if you're

0:45:51.160 --> 0:45:52.759
<v Speaker 3>trying to have a bad week, check it out.

0:45:53.800 --> 0:45:54.960
<v Speaker 2>It will give you a bad week.

0:45:55.000 --> 0:45:57.319
<v Speaker 1>But but again it will end in a place that

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>you will feel good about it. But it will it

0:46:00.320 --> 0:46:04.759
<v Speaker 1>will destroy you. Okay, what comics are that are ongoing?

0:46:05.400 --> 0:46:07.880
<v Speaker 1>Are we excited about right now? Zig?

0:46:08.360 --> 0:46:12.400
<v Speaker 3>This is uh from an artist in Peach Momoco Demon Days.

0:46:12.440 --> 0:46:18.279
<v Speaker 3>She's a fan best and absolutely fantastic. She's like, her

0:46:18.400 --> 0:46:21.319
<v Speaker 3>art is amazing, her storytelling is amazing. It makes me

0:46:21.440 --> 0:46:26.319
<v Speaker 3>jealous reading this stuff. Uh So, she's a Japanese artist.

0:46:26.600 --> 0:46:29.800
<v Speaker 3>She has a series called Demon Days, which is we've talked,

0:46:29.840 --> 0:46:32.319
<v Speaker 3>we've touched on like other manga and like inspiration like

0:46:32.480 --> 0:46:34.960
<v Speaker 3>you know, mangan and in American comic books. This is

0:46:34.960 --> 0:46:38.080
<v Speaker 3>a great, a great amalgamation of those two art style,

0:46:38.160 --> 0:46:43.040
<v Speaker 3>beautiful watercolor paintings that are retelling classic Marvel heroes in

0:46:43.080 --> 0:46:46.040
<v Speaker 3>the style of like a Japanese folklore. So their only

0:46:46.080 --> 0:46:48.440
<v Speaker 3>their demons, like there will be a you know, instead

0:46:48.480 --> 0:46:50.400
<v Speaker 3>of Thor being the god of thunder, he is like

0:46:50.560 --> 0:46:53.240
<v Speaker 3>a thunder demon. He carries like little little little storm

0:46:53.280 --> 0:46:55.840
<v Speaker 3>on her shoulder. Fantastic art. I think there's like it

0:46:55.960 --> 0:46:58.600
<v Speaker 3>gonna be six or seven books in the next one.

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Storm, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, not wait for that, Like

0:47:01.080 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 4>they're so Peach is so good? How are you? Probably

0:47:04.760 --> 0:47:07.040
<v Speaker 4>if you haven't read her like Demon Days, you've definitely

0:47:07.040 --> 0:47:10.040
<v Speaker 4>seen her covers. She is like the comics cover artists

0:47:10.160 --> 0:47:13.960
<v Speaker 4>right now. Like the way that she has inspired fans

0:47:14.040 --> 0:47:16.520
<v Speaker 4>to be caring about comics covers is just it's like

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:18.879
<v Speaker 4>Tom mcfalland and Greg Coppolo in the nineties, like, these

0:47:18.920 --> 0:47:22.160
<v Speaker 4>are the covers people want to have, Like, yes, she's incredible.

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:23.600
<v Speaker 3>Have you ever been in a coup Bok shop and

0:47:23.600 --> 0:47:25.279
<v Speaker 3>you start to like, what the fuck is that? She's

0:47:25.320 --> 0:47:27.680
<v Speaker 3>probably Yeah, she's the one who drew that. He's the

0:47:27.719 --> 0:47:29.520
<v Speaker 3>one that made you start. But I got it. I've

0:47:29.560 --> 0:47:31.160
<v Speaker 3>never read this comic, but I've picked up because the

0:47:31.200 --> 0:47:31.919
<v Speaker 3>cover is so cool.

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.359
<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent she she is that. I'm sure when

0:47:34.400 --> 0:47:37.200
<v Speaker 4>I worked in a shop, everything was like it was

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:39.160
<v Speaker 4>a Scotty Young cover and everyone would bring it, like

0:47:39.239 --> 0:47:40.880
<v Speaker 4>ninety percent of people would bring it back if it

0:47:40.920 --> 0:47:42.320
<v Speaker 4>wasn't in their pulse and be like, why doesn't the

0:47:42.360 --> 0:47:44.840
<v Speaker 4>inside look like that? I am sure that Peach is

0:47:44.880 --> 0:47:46.759
<v Speaker 4>the curse of shop. I'm sure people pick up like

0:47:47.000 --> 0:47:48.440
<v Speaker 4>and then they're like, wait, why doesn't the inside? But

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:50.279
<v Speaker 4>don't worry. Read Demon Days.

0:47:50.440 --> 0:47:54.239
<v Speaker 3>They'll give you everything. It's a great high recommend, fun

0:47:54.400 --> 0:47:57.440
<v Speaker 3>new from a from an artist writer that's killing the

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:57.920
<v Speaker 3>game right now.

0:47:58.560 --> 0:48:02.000
<v Speaker 4>Demon Days Enough, Yeah, Rosie, So I'm going to go

0:48:02.560 --> 0:48:06.680
<v Speaker 4>with there's this Viz has been doing the because you

0:48:06.719 --> 0:48:08.520
<v Speaker 4>talked about Demon Days. It just inspired me. Vis has

0:48:08.520 --> 0:48:11.440
<v Speaker 4>been doing these unbelievable manga re releases. So they just

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 4>did a fist of the North Star.

0:48:12.800 --> 0:48:13.399
<v Speaker 3>Oh, let's go.

0:48:13.760 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 4>It's so good. The cover, it's like the version you

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:18.840
<v Speaker 4>always wanted. It's got like a it's like a matte,

0:48:18.880 --> 0:48:22.279
<v Speaker 4>blood splatters on the frog. And they also have been

0:48:22.360 --> 0:48:27.000
<v Speaker 4>reprinting Lam and mazony Kuku by Ramiko Takahashi. Who I

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:29.880
<v Speaker 4>feel who is an icon made in a Yasha ramahalf

0:48:29.920 --> 0:48:32.040
<v Speaker 4>all the manga and anime you loved as a teenager.

0:48:32.320 --> 0:48:34.120
<v Speaker 4>And I just had to bring that up because one,

0:48:34.480 --> 0:48:36.880
<v Speaker 4>the copies are so stunning. If you are someone who

0:48:36.960 --> 0:48:38.880
<v Speaker 4>loves a nice book on your shelf, you got to

0:48:38.920 --> 0:48:42.160
<v Speaker 4>go to those reprints. And two, when I read Demon Days,

0:48:42.200 --> 0:48:46.200
<v Speaker 4>I was like, this is like Remiko Takahashi doing Marvel

0:48:46.400 --> 0:48:49.520
<v Speaker 4>Like it's that make sure of folklore, cute faces, like

0:48:49.760 --> 0:48:53.160
<v Speaker 4>iconic characters, designs. So those and the kind of continued

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:55.680
<v Speaker 4>re releases that Vis are doing of these kind of

0:48:55.680 --> 0:48:58.120
<v Speaker 4>classic mangas is something I just can't get enough.

0:48:58.000 --> 0:48:59.680
<v Speaker 2>Of at the moment. That is great.

0:49:00.080 --> 0:49:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Gonna pick gosh, I'm gonna pick The Department of Truth

0:49:05.239 --> 0:49:11.040
<v Speaker 1>by James Timmyan and Martin Simmons. It is a I

0:49:11.080 --> 0:49:13.960
<v Speaker 1>don't know how this is gonna turn out, like, maybe

0:49:14.000 --> 0:49:16.000
<v Speaker 1>they don't stick the landing. But I'll just say this

0:49:16.080 --> 0:49:19.120
<v Speaker 1>as an ongoing book that is in the zeitgeist right

0:49:19.160 --> 0:49:23.399
<v Speaker 1>now because it is about conspiracies and what if conspiracies

0:49:23.440 --> 0:49:26.160
<v Speaker 1>are real and how do you deal with that? And

0:49:26.200 --> 0:49:32.160
<v Speaker 1>what is truth? It is a very paranoid and very

0:49:32.280 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 1>creative book. It's on image the art. I would describe

0:49:36.680 --> 0:49:42.880
<v Speaker 1>it as like Bill Sankowitz, like the in his like

0:49:43.040 --> 0:49:48.360
<v Speaker 1>most darkest tendencies. It is twisted and always interesting to

0:49:48.440 --> 0:49:48.960
<v Speaker 1>look at.

0:49:50.280 --> 0:49:52.160
<v Speaker 2>It can be a little naughty.

0:49:51.840 --> 0:49:55.920
<v Speaker 1>And confusing, but it feels like that's by design. And

0:49:56.120 --> 0:49:58.719
<v Speaker 1>again I hope they stick the landing. But it is

0:49:58.760 --> 0:50:03.200
<v Speaker 1>a crazy book currently an image something I really like. Okay,

0:50:03.200 --> 0:50:05.200
<v Speaker 1>one more for for both, for all of us, and

0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:05.880
<v Speaker 1>then we'll move on.

0:50:06.719 --> 0:50:08.720
<v Speaker 3>You know. I almost keep in the vein of indie comics.

0:50:08.719 --> 0:50:11.360
<v Speaker 3>There's a new comic series called The Antagonist by Godhead

0:50:11.360 --> 0:50:15.480
<v Speaker 3>Comics or a Black owned Black Runner Black Ran Studio

0:50:15.960 --> 0:50:18.479
<v Speaker 3>out of out of Atlanta. I believe. I think there's

0:50:18.520 --> 0:50:22.319
<v Speaker 3>only three issues out for The Antagonists. There's another four

0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:24.200
<v Speaker 3>that they're kickstarting at the moment, but that got on

0:50:24.239 --> 0:50:26.400
<v Speaker 3>my radar just through Twitter. I found their kickstarter. I

0:50:26.440 --> 0:50:29.479
<v Speaker 3>supported them, and it's a fun book. You know, It's

0:50:29.640 --> 0:50:31.400
<v Speaker 3>just you can tell from the name that's from the

0:50:31.440 --> 0:50:33.839
<v Speaker 3>point of view of what would be General Zodd, their

0:50:33.920 --> 0:50:36.000
<v Speaker 3>version of like a black General Zod and like his wife,

0:50:36.000 --> 0:50:39.160
<v Speaker 3>and there's sort of a dismantling you know, a racist nation,

0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:41.960
<v Speaker 3>capitalist nation. And it's just been an interesting point of

0:50:42.000 --> 0:50:43.800
<v Speaker 3>view and like what I think, you know, every I

0:50:43.840 --> 0:50:45.960
<v Speaker 3>think we've seen a lot of like what if Superman

0:50:46.080 --> 0:50:49.080
<v Speaker 3>was bad? Like what if the bad guys ran the country?

0:50:49.120 --> 0:50:51.080
<v Speaker 3>And it's interesting seeing that just from a point of

0:50:51.160 --> 0:50:54.600
<v Speaker 3>view from you know, the thing built on something that's

0:50:54.640 --> 0:50:56.920
<v Speaker 3>I think a lookit more tangible and grounded, like you

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.000
<v Speaker 3>soruld relate sort of like how you can relate to

0:50:59.040 --> 0:51:01.040
<v Speaker 3>Killmonger a lot in the Black Panther movie. That can

0:51:01.120 --> 0:51:03.680
<v Speaker 3>relate to these characters a lot in this series. I

0:51:03.760 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 3>highly recommend support you know, some some new upcoming artists

0:51:06.640 --> 0:51:09.600
<v Speaker 3>and comic companies that are independent also you know, ran

0:51:09.640 --> 0:51:10.800
<v Speaker 3>by some people of color.

0:51:11.239 --> 0:51:14.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeahs, I'm going to go. So this is going back

0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.280
<v Speaker 4>to a big two DC again, but it does include

0:51:17.280 --> 0:51:22.160
<v Speaker 4>some really really incredible cartoonists of So basically DC is

0:51:22.320 --> 0:51:26.120
<v Speaker 4>bringing this huge event called Trial of the Amazons. You

0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:29.919
<v Speaker 4>got Marie Javins as eic now an iconic comic book editor,

0:51:29.960 --> 0:51:32.560
<v Speaker 4>who is heading up this thing with Brittany Molsher, who's

0:51:32.600 --> 0:51:36.520
<v Speaker 4>another editor who's really behind bringing Diana and Nubia, Diana's sister,

0:51:37.120 --> 0:51:40.640
<v Speaker 4>to the forefront of DC Comics. Currently there's a newbier

0:51:40.680 --> 0:51:43.240
<v Speaker 4>in the Amazons series which is leading into this issue.

0:51:43.239 --> 0:51:44.680
<v Speaker 4>One just came out, so it's a great time to

0:51:44.760 --> 0:51:48.440
<v Speaker 4>jump on. It is an unbelievable team. Steph Williams, I

0:51:48.520 --> 0:51:52.480
<v Speaker 4>love her, one of the funniest indie cartoonists around, just

0:51:52.680 --> 0:51:57.440
<v Speaker 4>absolutely the best. Did a Marvel story about Monica Rambo,

0:51:57.719 --> 0:52:03.040
<v Speaker 4>Like just absolute wonderful persona ayala, absolute g comic book superstar,

0:52:03.640 --> 0:52:06.160
<v Speaker 4>the best. So they're the co writers and it's Alitha Martin,

0:52:06.200 --> 0:52:09.720
<v Speaker 4>who is a Martinez who's one of the absolute most

0:52:10.040 --> 0:52:14.719
<v Speaker 4>legit Black Big two artists, And it is just so badass.

0:52:14.760 --> 0:52:19.160
<v Speaker 4>It reintroduces us to the Amazon's Themisca introduces the idea

0:52:19.200 --> 0:52:21.520
<v Speaker 4>of the Well of Souls, which is basically a way

0:52:21.520 --> 0:52:24.320
<v Speaker 4>of opening up and blowing up who can be an Amazon?

0:52:24.640 --> 0:52:26.640
<v Speaker 4>So you have all different kinds of new people coming

0:52:26.640 --> 0:52:28.800
<v Speaker 4>through those doors, and that is really the jumping on

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.680
<v Speaker 4>point to this bigger trial of the Amazon's event alongside

0:52:31.760 --> 0:52:33.880
<v Speaker 4>the Wonder Woman book, which is written by Becky Clunan.

0:52:34.040 --> 0:52:37.680
<v Speaker 4>Another absolute g love Becky Klunan so much, someone who

0:52:37.680 --> 0:52:41.120
<v Speaker 4>really got me into comics, Big two and indie. So yeah,

0:52:41.120 --> 0:52:42.920
<v Speaker 4>that is just something I think is really exciting, and

0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:45.680
<v Speaker 4>that's going to be the big DC event going into

0:52:45.719 --> 0:52:47.399
<v Speaker 4>the kind of next few years. So it's a great

0:52:47.400 --> 0:52:49.239
<v Speaker 4>time to jump on right now because just those first

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:51.560
<v Speaker 4>couple of issues are out there. You can go to

0:52:51.600 --> 0:52:53.560
<v Speaker 4>your comic shop, grab them, and you'll be in from

0:52:53.640 --> 0:52:56.960
<v Speaker 4>the beginning of this really cool event that has really

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.719
<v Speaker 4>focused on inclusive new heroes. Nubia is a queen of

0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:02.239
<v Speaker 4>them scart now Nubier is an all black creative team

0:53:02.239 --> 0:53:04.719
<v Speaker 4>on that book. So that's just really cool to see

0:53:04.719 --> 0:53:05.200
<v Speaker 4>that happening.

0:53:05.520 --> 0:53:08.799
<v Speaker 1>Damn it Rosie making me spend money.

0:53:08.880 --> 0:53:10.600
<v Speaker 2>Okay, my final pick.

0:53:12.320 --> 0:53:16.239
<v Speaker 1>My final pick is let's go to Image The Good

0:53:16.239 --> 0:53:22.279
<v Speaker 1>Asian biopor Sick Pishit showt and Alex Tefaneggi. It is

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:28.840
<v Speaker 1>a noir set in nineteen thirties Chinatown in San Francisco,

0:53:29.360 --> 0:53:36.880
<v Speaker 1>and it follows the adventures of a Chinese detective having

0:53:36.920 --> 0:53:41.120
<v Speaker 1>to deal with, you know, solving mysteries and a racist

0:53:41.200 --> 0:53:44.960
<v Speaker 1>society that doesn't really accept him and his culture. And

0:53:45.640 --> 0:53:47.839
<v Speaker 1>it is It's great, it's ongoing right now.

0:53:48.200 --> 0:53:48.480
<v Speaker 2>Get it.

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:52.440
<v Speaker 1>Image wonderful art, you know, like I just love Noir.

0:53:52.600 --> 0:53:55.880
<v Speaker 1>I love that it really evokes a kind of like

0:53:56.000 --> 0:53:57.360
<v Speaker 1>Batman Year one.

0:53:57.280 --> 0:54:00.600
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, yeah, yeah, that vibe origin of so many of

0:54:00.640 --> 0:54:02.640
<v Speaker 4>these characters.

0:54:02.280 --> 0:54:06.360
<v Speaker 1>But really really exciting, you know, obviously an all Asian

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:10.359
<v Speaker 1>creative team. Check it out at Image Comics. Love it

0:54:10.440 --> 0:54:13.680
<v Speaker 1>and I think it only started in when did it start?

0:54:13.760 --> 0:54:17.640
<v Speaker 1>Like it is nice and far into it like May,

0:54:18.239 --> 0:54:21.319
<v Speaker 1>like May or June of twenty twenty one, so not

0:54:21.640 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 1>hard at all to jump right in.

0:54:24.600 --> 0:54:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Up next, let's go to the end game.

0:54:34.960 --> 0:54:37.279
<v Speaker 1>Okay, folks, we are in the end game now, and

0:54:37.320 --> 0:54:40.480
<v Speaker 1>today we're playing some assembly required in which Rosie Zig

0:54:40.520 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>and I will be randomly assigned a mission and I

0:54:43.160 --> 0:54:46.600
<v Speaker 1>have to assemble a character or a team of characters

0:54:46.640 --> 0:54:52.680
<v Speaker 1>from any comic from any comic company to accomplish this mission.

0:54:53.480 --> 0:54:57.040
<v Speaker 1>And we have selected the randomly assigned mission, and it

0:54:57.120 --> 0:55:01.080
<v Speaker 1>is to compete in Mario Now this is a real

0:55:02.360 --> 0:55:06.360
<v Speaker 1>quote unquote real life Mario Kart, So like Mario Kart

0:55:06.360 --> 0:55:09.759
<v Speaker 1>with an actual vehicle, in the reality of the of

0:55:09.880 --> 0:55:11.280
<v Speaker 1>the adventure that we are taking.

0:55:11.760 --> 0:55:13.080
<v Speaker 2>So let's see.

0:55:13.760 --> 0:55:16.400
<v Speaker 1>Uh, let's let's keep it the same way we've been

0:55:16.440 --> 0:55:21.719
<v Speaker 1>doing it. Zig Who will you select to compete in

0:55:21.800 --> 0:55:28.040
<v Speaker 1>real life Mario Kart? What character from any comic book, franchise, company, whatever.

0:55:28.520 --> 0:55:31.080
<v Speaker 3>My first draft picked will be a one Kate Bishop

0:55:31.160 --> 0:55:34.279
<v Speaker 3>aka Hawkeye. I think if you're in a game of

0:55:34.400 --> 0:55:36.680
<v Speaker 3>Mario Kart, think you give a Mario card, you need

0:55:36.680 --> 0:55:39.200
<v Speaker 3>someone the accuracy, the dexterity. I think Michael Cake can

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:42.600
<v Speaker 3>hold it down. Get her any honestly, any turtleshell becomes

0:55:42.600 --> 0:55:44.760
<v Speaker 3>a red turtle shell in the hands and exprest archer.

0:55:45.120 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 3>So she's doing mad work with blue with green turtle shells.

0:55:48.160 --> 0:55:49.720
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're in trouble.

0:55:50.080 --> 0:55:51.600
<v Speaker 2>That's a good one, Rosie.

0:55:52.239 --> 0:55:59.160
<v Speaker 4>Okay, So I'm gonna go for ghost Rider. Obviously, I'm

0:55:59.160 --> 0:56:02.040
<v Speaker 4>gonna go said I'm gonna go Johnny Blaze just just

0:56:02.080 --> 0:56:05.920
<v Speaker 4>for fun. I mean, you know, anything he gets on. Really,

0:56:06.000 --> 0:56:08.560
<v Speaker 4>let's be real, let's getting possessed by the devil. He's

0:56:08.640 --> 0:56:12.000
<v Speaker 4>flying down there. There's flames. It's gonna be chaos if

0:56:12.000 --> 0:56:14.120
<v Speaker 4>anyone gets in the way, just throw some chains at them.

0:56:14.440 --> 0:56:17.359
<v Speaker 4>It's probably not gonna be the e for everyone Rate

0:56:17.440 --> 0:56:20.000
<v Speaker 4>and marire Car like Let's it's probably gonna be some

0:56:20.040 --> 0:56:23.719
<v Speaker 4>toasted toads out there. But I think I think ghost

0:56:23.800 --> 0:56:26.200
<v Speaker 4>Rider Johnny Blaze. That's that's the winner.

0:56:26.719 --> 0:56:27.640
<v Speaker 2>Wow, that's a good one.

0:56:27.760 --> 0:56:31.560
<v Speaker 1>Okay, since I don't want to lose, I'm good to

0:56:31.640 --> 0:56:36.279
<v Speaker 1>take a character who has never lost and has come

0:56:36.320 --> 0:56:39.720
<v Speaker 1>away with surprising, world shaking victories.

0:56:41.480 --> 0:56:42.320
<v Speaker 4>Squirrel gol.

0:56:46.719 --> 0:56:54.279
<v Speaker 1>Driving the cra van, Craven the Hunters airbrushed van, the

0:56:54.360 --> 0:57:01.399
<v Speaker 1>unbeatable squirrel Girl. Uh so driving Craven's van and listen,

0:57:01.440 --> 0:57:05.560
<v Speaker 1>we gotta throw shells out the back, so helping squirrel

0:57:05.600 --> 0:57:06.720
<v Speaker 1>girl is this cheating?

0:57:06.960 --> 0:57:07.040
<v Speaker 4>Like?

0:57:07.120 --> 0:57:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Can Howard the duck be in the back to throw

0:57:12.680 --> 0:57:15.080
<v Speaker 1>shells and stuff out the back? So it is squirrel

0:57:15.080 --> 0:57:18.720
<v Speaker 1>Girl in Craven, the Hunters van, the cra Van.

0:57:19.880 --> 0:57:21.320
<v Speaker 4>I mean she's unbeatable.

0:57:22.120 --> 0:57:25.000
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, yeah, I didn't think. I didn't I didn't plan

0:57:25.040 --> 0:57:27.560
<v Speaker 3>that far ahead. I didn't think about that monkey in.

0:57:29.680 --> 0:57:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Uh, this has been super fun. Folks, What do you

0:57:32.800 --> 0:57:35.680
<v Speaker 1>think who would you select as a comic book character

0:57:35.720 --> 0:57:38.560
<v Speaker 1>from any comic book series, any comic book company to

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>compete in Mariya Kart let us know. Send us your

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:45.440
<v Speaker 1>answers at hashtag XRVN game. That's XRVN game, and shout

0:57:45.480 --> 0:57:49.880
<v Speaker 1>out to at Marcus mendes One for his end game

0:57:49.920 --> 0:57:53.360
<v Speaker 1>of top five fictional Billionaires. Continue to send us those,

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<v Speaker 1>Rosie zig This has been fantastic and I'll see.

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<v Speaker 2>You out on the streets.

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<v Speaker 1>Big thank you to Rosie and Cody Zigler for joining

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<v Speaker 1>us on another episode of X ray Vision. Next Wednesday,

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<v Speaker 1>we'll be covering Marvels Eternals, So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. It is executive produced by

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<v Speaker 1>myself and Sandy Garard. Caroline Reston and Carlton Gillespie are

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