1 00:00:00,320 --> 00:00:04,640 Speaker 1: Warning, this episode contains spoilers for a bunch of the 2 00:00:04,680 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: comic books that we are going to discuss. And these 3 00:00:08,080 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: are comic books from across a spectrum of publishers including Marvel, DC, 4 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:35,560 Speaker 1: Image and Onny and much more. So you have been warned. Hello, 5 00:00:35,640 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: my name is Jason Concepcion. Welcome to episode ten of 6 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 1: X ray Vision, The Cricket Podcast, where we dive deep 7 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 1: into your favorite shows, movies, comics and pop culture. 8 00:00:45,080 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 2: To mark our first. 9 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: Double digit episode, we're bringing on a double hit of 10 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:54,040 Speaker 1: co hosts. Today up, first on Previously On, I'll be 11 00:00:54,120 --> 00:00:57,040 Speaker 1: covering all the news that's happened in the past week, 12 00:00:57,200 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: and then it's time for an extended airlock where we 13 00:00:59,200 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: talk about comics, comics, comics, and to do that we're 14 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: bringing on our comics connoisseurs, writer Rosie Knight and Cody Ziggler. First, 15 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:13,480 Speaker 1: let's hit the news on today's previously on. First up, 16 00:01:13,640 --> 00:01:16,679 Speaker 1: the Book of Boba Fett trailer is out. How best 17 00:01:16,720 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: to describe this, So it's like Boba Fett in his 18 00:01:19,880 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: role as the new crime lord of tattooing now that 19 00:01:25,200 --> 00:01:28,080 Speaker 1: job is out of the picture. I kept wanting to 20 00:01:28,120 --> 00:01:30,959 Speaker 1: hear the Sopranos theme under it because it's like a 21 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 1: lot of you know, Boba Fett meeting with the various 22 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 1: coppos of Jaba's former crime empire and getting them all 23 00:01:40,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: in line with the help of mgno Win's Fenixshand This 24 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: will start streaming December twenty ninth on Disney Plus. Of course, 25 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:53,680 Speaker 1: ep'd by Dave Filoni and John Favreau. This looks super fun. Next, 26 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: the trailer long awaited trailer for Morbius from Sony in 27 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 1: conjunction with Marvel Studios has been released. It stars Jared 28 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 1: Leto as the famed Spider Man villain Morbius, the Living Vampire. 29 00:02:09,240 --> 00:02:11,560 Speaker 1: He is a physician who has a blood disorder. Then 30 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,000 Speaker 1: he is like, how do I cure this thing? So 31 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:16,120 Speaker 1: he goes down to an area where there are a 32 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: lot of vampire bats and guess what, he becomes a 33 00:02:17,880 --> 00:02:23,000 Speaker 1: fucking vampire. It stars Matt Smith, Jared Leto, Jared Harris, 34 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: Al Madrigal, and Tyrese Gibson. It is directed by Daniel 35 00:02:26,760 --> 00:02:30,279 Speaker 1: Espinoza from a script by Matt Sazama and Burke Sharpless. 36 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:34,280 Speaker 1: This trailer has come out two years after the first 37 00:02:34,280 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 1: teaser trailer was released. In four years after the project 38 00:02:37,080 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: was announced. 39 00:02:37,720 --> 00:02:38,919 Speaker 2: Obviously a lot. 40 00:02:38,960 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 1: Has changed in that time, and it is laden with 41 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:49,200 Speaker 1: references from Sony's various Spider Man offerings, including an appearance 42 00:02:49,240 --> 00:02:52,240 Speaker 1: by Michael Keaton's Vulture. There is a shot of the 43 00:02:52,280 --> 00:02:56,800 Speaker 1: Oscorp building. There is a mention of Rhino and Black 44 00:02:56,840 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 1: Cat from the cover of a Daily Bugle. There is 45 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,080 Speaker 1: a mention of that thing that happened in San Francisco, 46 00:03:03,200 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: which is clearly a reference to Venom. So lots of 47 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 1: Spider Man from all versions of Sony's Spider Verse happening here. 48 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 1: Be interesting to see how this ties into the MCU. 49 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 2: If at all I mean, I'll watch it. 50 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 1: And then finally, nine employees of Image Comics have announced 51 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: that they are going to form a comic book workers 52 00:03:26,960 --> 00:03:32,360 Speaker 1: union called Comic Book Workers United. The decision announcement reads, 53 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 1: in part quote, our workforce and the comic book and 54 00:03:35,400 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 1: publishing industry as a whole is over taxed and undervalued. 55 00:03:38,520 --> 00:03:41,720 Speaker 1: This is detrimental not only to general staff, but also 56 00:03:41,800 --> 00:03:43,440 Speaker 1: to the creators. We were paid to serve in the 57 00:03:43,440 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: audience as they entered work to entertain. We love what 58 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:48,400 Speaker 1: we do, but loving what you do doesn't mean you 59 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:52,400 Speaker 1: can't or shouldn't ask for improvements to your working conditions. 60 00:03:52,400 --> 00:03:55,280 Speaker 1: And it was signed by the Image staffers Ryan Brewer, 61 00:03:55,600 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: Leanna Counter, Marla Isaac, Drew Fitzgerald, Melissa Gifford, Cloos, Trisha Ramos, 62 00:04:01,800 --> 00:04:07,880 Speaker 1: John Schlaffman, and Erica Schnatz. Somewhat ironic since Image was 63 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:12,280 Speaker 1: formed in nineteen ninety two by disaffected comic book creators 64 00:04:12,760 --> 00:04:17,320 Speaker 1: from DC and Marvel who wanted to benefit from the 65 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:21,480 Speaker 1: success of their creations in a way that working at 66 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:24,840 Speaker 1: the Big two simply wouldn't. So the fact that this 67 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: is happening with Image is interesting and I hope they succeed. 68 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:31,159 Speaker 2: I hope they succeed. 69 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: This builds on a history there's been a lot of 70 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 1: like aborted attempts to kind of unionize the comics industry, 71 00:04:37,800 --> 00:04:41,240 Speaker 1: going back to the Academy of Comic Book Artists from 72 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:46,000 Speaker 1: the seventies, which was an organization that stan Lee created 73 00:04:46,600 --> 00:04:50,000 Speaker 1: that in his mind was would act as like a 74 00:04:50,040 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: promotional arm for the comics book industry, but for younger creators, 75 00:04:55,720 --> 00:04:59,600 Speaker 1: more militant creators at the time, including Neil Adams and 76 00:04:59,720 --> 00:05:03,520 Speaker 1: Archie good One. They thought, okay, we should turn this 77 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: into basically a comic book union that will go out 78 00:05:07,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 1: there and fight for the interests of creators for better pay, 79 00:05:13,600 --> 00:05:18,359 Speaker 1: more equitable profit sharing, better work hours, better working conditions, 80 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:21,160 Speaker 1: et cetera. And that one kind of broke down because 81 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 1: there are a lot of disagreements obviously, one about what 82 00:05:25,440 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the ACBA would actually do, and then two how best 83 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:35,680 Speaker 1: to share those benefits, Like would it just be writers 84 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: and pencilers, What about the inkers, what about the colorists, 85 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:41,640 Speaker 1: what about the letterers? And it's so I'm hoping that 86 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:45,920 Speaker 1: this union succeeds one and doesn't break down along those 87 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 1: similar lines. If you're going to be inclusive, you got 88 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:54,040 Speaker 1: to include everybody. That means writers, artists, pencilers, colorists, and everyone. 89 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 1: I hope it succeeds some. 90 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,839 Speaker 2: Of the goals. The stated goals. 91 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: That this union has put out there in their announcement 92 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: says they want to foster a more competitive industry through 93 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 1: salary workload transparency for all existing and proposed job titles, 94 00:06:08,920 --> 00:06:13,480 Speaker 1: more transparent company culture stuff in there, for allowing employees 95 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:17,000 Speaker 1: to continue to work remote, et cetera. It's a long 96 00:06:17,040 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: time coming, and I hope this. I hope this works up. 97 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 1: Next we go into the airlock with Rosie. 98 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:23,720 Speaker 2: And zig. 99 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to the airlock today, where we are joined by 100 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:44,359 Speaker 1: the Great Rosie Knight and the Great Cody Ziggler. Folks, 101 00:06:44,440 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 1: how were your respective Halloweens? 102 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 3: You know they were good for me? On my end, 103 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:52,000 Speaker 3: I was a very I was a very adult about it. 104 00:06:52,040 --> 00:06:54,640 Speaker 3: I got my booster shot for pis or being chot out. 105 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:58,960 Speaker 3: So I spent literally all of my night of Halloween 106 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,839 Speaker 3: on my couch nursing a gnarly headache. 107 00:07:01,880 --> 00:07:04,840 Speaker 4: So that was very serious though. I like that, you know, 108 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: thank you. 109 00:07:05,360 --> 00:07:06,680 Speaker 3: I did what I can. You know this this is 110 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:08,960 Speaker 3: thirty four. You know, twenty seven year old me would 111 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:10,880 Speaker 3: would rich at the idea, But like at thirty four, 112 00:07:10,880 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, we hang out my couch, play some 113 00:07:12,680 --> 00:07:14,680 Speaker 3: Guards of the Galaxy and watch some TV. That that's 114 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 3: what I got going on. 115 00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 4: No, I feel that at thirty three it was lay 116 00:07:18,560 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 4: on the sofa and watched like a ton of bad sequels. 117 00:07:21,200 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 4: I watched like every I know what you did last 118 00:07:23,000 --> 00:07:25,960 Speaker 4: summer movie. Two of my favor with late stage hel 119 00:07:26,040 --> 00:07:29,640 Speaker 4: raise of sequels, which is Bloodline and Hell well both 120 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,240 Speaker 4: of them absolutely foncused ten out of Time would recommend. 121 00:07:32,240 --> 00:07:33,760 Speaker 4: But that's that's the life. When you're in your face, 122 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 4: you got to. 123 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 3: Be chilling that I get eying, knowlse to prove I've 124 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: done it all? 125 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:38,600 Speaker 2: What did I do? 126 00:07:38,760 --> 00:07:43,720 Speaker 1: I went to an improv show at Largo, and then 127 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: I went to a friend's party that was already cashed out, 128 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:53,000 Speaker 1: so we just sat with their dog and talked and 129 00:07:53,080 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: hung out. It was actually quite chill and delightful. And 130 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: that's it. 131 00:07:56,400 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 2: And then I went home. 132 00:07:58,320 --> 00:08:00,680 Speaker 1: Folks, I can't wait to talk about comics today because 133 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: people ask all the time whenever we delve into comic books, 134 00:08:05,920 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: where do I start? I want to get into comics, 135 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: and I don't know where to start, and I don't 136 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: know what. 137 00:08:09,680 --> 00:08:12,040 Speaker 2: To read, and YadA, YadA, YadA. 138 00:08:12,320 --> 00:08:14,680 Speaker 1: Folks, this is for you. If you are one of 139 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: those people, this segment is for you. Zig Rosie and 140 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: I are going to get into such topics as where 141 00:08:23,080 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 1: do I start, what's a good comic arc? And we're 142 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: going to do that across Marvel, across DC, across Boom, 143 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:34,360 Speaker 1: across Image, across top Cow. We're going to talk to 144 00:08:34,400 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: you about some of our favorite comics and great places 145 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:38,200 Speaker 1: to pick up and start. 146 00:08:38,240 --> 00:08:40,240 Speaker 2: If you're new to it. Are you ready? 147 00:08:40,720 --> 00:08:43,200 Speaker 4: I'm ready, I'm ready. This is the one. 148 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:45,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, give way for it. 149 00:08:46,679 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: Our first prompt, what are good entry arcs for new 150 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: comics readers? 151 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 2: And let's start with Let's start with Marvel. Who wants 152 00:08:56,080 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 2: to go first? I guess we'll go. We'll just go 153 00:08:58,080 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 2: down Zig Would you like to start? 154 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 3: Oh? Yeah, you know this. I've been yelling about this 155 00:09:02,320 --> 00:09:05,319 Speaker 3: particular run since it came out maybe a year a 156 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:08,680 Speaker 3: year some change ago. Kelly Thompson and Elena or Elena 157 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:11,040 Speaker 3: Cussa Grande's Black Widow is for me. 158 00:09:11,320 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 2: Yes. 159 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 3: It's one of those stories that I think defines the characters, 160 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 3: sort of like how Matt fact fraction in David Aya's 161 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 3: Hawkeye became like, oh, this is what Hawkeye should be like. 162 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: This is very much in the same vein as what 163 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:28,560 Speaker 3: what they've done with Black Widow. Fantastic character moments with 164 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:32,080 Speaker 3: with that, that that that Kelly wrote, and the art 165 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 3: is amazing, Like car Kelly has has sort of this 166 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,440 Speaker 3: staple where she can do some really beautiful double spreads 167 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:41,560 Speaker 3: that conveys so much action. Uh, and this usually sent 168 00:09:41,679 --> 00:09:44,400 Speaker 3: it around like a center point frame. There's something crazy 169 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 3: going on if you're looking for some amazing art as 170 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:51,160 Speaker 3: well as some beautiful, touching storytelling. I highly recommend Black Widow. 171 00:09:51,200 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 3: It's such a fun run. It's funny, it's heart wrenching 172 00:09:54,280 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 3: and also has the fun stuff with like you can 173 00:09:56,320 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: we give the combooks like oh, there's a there's a 174 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:00,000 Speaker 3: there's a dude in a hovercr like. 175 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 4: Every day and it's grounded but. 176 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:10,800 Speaker 3: Everything. Oh right, there you go now, I'm yeah, Harry 177 00:10:10,840 --> 00:10:12,400 Speaker 3: recommend Rosie. 178 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna like, I'm thinking of something in that 179 00:10:15,559 --> 00:10:17,319 Speaker 4: would be like a similar vein because I love the 180 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,240 Speaker 4: idea of this being like a reading list for me, 181 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 4: like something you really those double page spreads. The way 182 00:10:21,760 --> 00:10:24,320 Speaker 4: Kelly can write them and Elena can bring them to 183 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,280 Speaker 4: life is the twenty thirteen Young Avengers run. They're Kieran Gilla, Yeah, 184 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 4: Matt Wilson on colors. Those colors are vital to the books. Like, 185 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 4: this book is so good. It's like I love the 186 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:41,600 Speaker 4: original Young Avengers, Jim Chung's like the best, and but 187 00:10:41,679 --> 00:10:44,160 Speaker 4: this is like this was my thing, Like I love 188 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:47,199 Speaker 4: this book. I got the first issue with a Brian 189 00:10:47,280 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 4: le O'Malley variant cover, and it's basically like Team of 190 00:10:51,400 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 4: young heroes and it's cosmic and it's weird, and it's 191 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:59,000 Speaker 4: what we're basically about to see in the MCU two 192 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 4: looking at the team, know America, Chaves, Patriot, You've got 193 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 4: like Kate Bishop, Hawkeye. You know, there's and it's and 194 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:07,760 Speaker 4: it's queer and it's funny and it's inclusive and there 195 00:11:07,840 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 4: is there are these double page spreads and these things 196 00:11:10,640 --> 00:11:13,439 Speaker 4: that Jamie does with Paneling, Like there's this one double 197 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: page spread where they're having a fight, and all around 198 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 4: the edges there are like little kind of like outtakes 199 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 4: where you're seeing different people fighting the number the fighter 200 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 4: and it is like I remember reading. 201 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 3: That and being like, ship it broke my brain. The 202 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 3: first time I read that. 203 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,079 Speaker 4: I was like, this is what comics are, Like, this 204 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 4: is what you can do with them. And it's like 205 00:11:32,360 --> 00:11:35,959 Speaker 4: it's fun, it's sexy, it's like silly, but and it's 206 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 4: kid Loki. Wow, big kid Loki storyline. If that's your thing. 207 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 4: So I think that is like a really and that's 208 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 4: from this era of Marvel that I just loved when 209 00:11:43,160 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 4: they were doing Marvel. Now you know that Miss Marvel, 210 00:11:45,440 --> 00:11:47,560 Speaker 4: Kamala Kahan, Like there was a lot and that is 211 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:50,199 Speaker 4: just like, that's peak I when I work in a 212 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 4: comic shop, I used to recommend that book to everyone. 213 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 1: Gillan, uh mckelvy, Matt Wilson. That is an elite, top 214 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:03,079 Speaker 1: level creative team, so clean, the writing is musical, it's romantic. 215 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,240 Speaker 2: I love that one. That's a great one. 216 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:08,199 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of x Men out there, there's 217 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, forty fifty years now of x Men history. 218 00:12:11,720 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 1: I am going to select for the new reader. X 219 00:12:15,280 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 1: Men Grand design Ed Pisker's three volume compendium of X 220 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,920 Speaker 1: Men history, done as like almost like a zine. So 221 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 1: it's not gonna give you like the granular detailed stuff 222 00:12:30,360 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 1: like about you know, it's not gonna give you everything, 223 00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,160 Speaker 1: but it's gonna basically catch you up in four or 224 00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:41,000 Speaker 1: five decades of X Men history in this really fun, 225 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 1: almost like indie art style. 226 00:12:43,800 --> 00:12:45,240 Speaker 2: That I super love. 227 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: Whether you're a X Men fanatic or someone who's just 228 00:12:50,320 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: like wants to know all the stuff that happened before 229 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 1: diving in. I think it's a great pickup. Listen, bar 230 00:12:56,240 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: the first one from your library or if. 231 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:01,960 Speaker 2: You have comic compony, yeah, library, yeah, and if you 232 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:04,800 Speaker 2: like it, go pick it up. From your from your 233 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,760 Speaker 2: local comic shop. Next zig another one, give us another one, you. 234 00:13:08,679 --> 00:13:11,160 Speaker 3: Know, since we're since I'm coming off that I'm dismounting 235 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: from from your pick. For X Man, I gotta recommend 236 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:19,839 Speaker 3: zeb Wells and Steven Segovia's Hellian's I Love My Boys V. 237 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,040 Speaker 3: We work together on Cheehak. He's super funny guy in 238 00:13:22,040 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: this comic is very very funny, also very dark. He's 239 00:13:26,200 --> 00:13:28,880 Speaker 3: he the way that he's able to have a character 240 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 3: like mister Senator have actual bits and I have punchlines 241 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: in his comics is missed. 242 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 4: The sinister is like the I want to do this 243 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 4: is so funny, like and you can. Hellien's is a 244 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 4: brilliant choice because it seems like maybe it's a little 245 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 4: bit more heavy because it's just been off sea. But 246 00:13:49,040 --> 00:13:51,480 Speaker 4: it's not like you can jump into this book and 247 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 4: just absolutely love it and if you really love it, 248 00:13:53,320 --> 00:13:54,440 Speaker 4: you can go to House of X all the other 249 00:13:54,480 --> 00:13:57,960 Speaker 4: stuff like this is like the and it's what's fifteen issues. 250 00:13:57,640 --> 00:14:00,120 Speaker 3: And yes, easy easy and easy out. It's one of 251 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 3: those things that also, like the Sculturals, I guys like 252 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 3: we know what the Thunderbolt told in IR like we 253 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,520 Speaker 3: know what Suicide Squad is, so like taking that team 254 00:14:06,600 --> 00:14:08,439 Speaker 3: and couching it in like the X Men world, and 255 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:10,079 Speaker 3: also being like, oh, I'm gonna have some of the 256 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: funniest jokes you've ever read, also sandwiched in between some 257 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:15,440 Speaker 3: really traumatic stuff going on, much of the same way 258 00:14:15,440 --> 00:14:18,320 Speaker 3: that I think that Black Widows sort of redefines a 259 00:14:18,320 --> 00:14:20,440 Speaker 3: black widow for this sort of modern age. I think 260 00:14:20,840 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 3: if Helions could be redefined, I think in the year's 261 00:14:23,120 --> 00:14:25,440 Speaker 3: twenty twenty one, like, this is definitely the book that 262 00:14:25,520 --> 00:14:27,560 Speaker 3: I would recommend if you're looking for something that's new 263 00:14:27,640 --> 00:14:30,080 Speaker 3: at currently being made. It's also funny and has hits 264 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:32,880 Speaker 3: all the different tiers of like action, like the dramatic bits. 265 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 3: It also a really really really funny book, and it. 266 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:36,840 Speaker 4: Comes out regularly as well. For a big two book. 267 00:14:36,840 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 4: I rarely have big two stuff like on my pull 268 00:14:39,200 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 4: list for a long time. Yeah, this is in our house. 269 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 4: That is that that's like Helen's is just so good. 270 00:14:44,240 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: I'm so glad you included that one. It's just it's 271 00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 4: so good. It's so funny, but it's. 272 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,960 Speaker 1: Also like really yeah, yeah, the mister Sinister aspect is 273 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:58,080 Speaker 1: fantastic because you know, for mister Sinister, classic X Men 274 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:02,840 Speaker 1: villain has a very tangled history within the X Men lore, 275 00:15:02,960 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: but like you don't need to know any of that. 276 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 1: It's like so campy and funny and weird. Yeah, it's 277 00:15:10,400 --> 00:15:11,360 Speaker 1: a great pick, great pick. 278 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:14,080 Speaker 4: And he has like an incredible cape, which is like 279 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:15,040 Speaker 4: one of my all time favorite. 280 00:15:15,560 --> 00:15:18,280 Speaker 3: I do love their bits that revolve around the spindles 281 00:15:18,280 --> 00:15:21,160 Speaker 3: on his cape. They dive into very fun stuff. 282 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: H Rosie. 283 00:15:22,560 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 4: Okay, I'm gonna go for a let's think. I'm like, oh, 284 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:28,600 Speaker 4: that was just so good. Okay, let's go old. Let's 285 00:15:28,640 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 4: go old because you went there. Okay, So I'm gonna 286 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:34,800 Speaker 4: recommend We've talked Infinity Gornela, which is on my list 287 00:15:34,840 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 4: because I just think that's such a great comic. But 288 00:15:36,480 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: we've talked about that before people know it. That's your MC. 289 00:15:38,960 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go for Silver Surfer Rebirth of Thaos, 290 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:44,920 Speaker 4: which is from nineteen ninety. It's Ron Limb, whose Absolute 291 00:15:45,080 --> 00:15:47,760 Speaker 4: Icon also was artist on Infinity Gone and Jim stalin 292 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,840 Speaker 4: the career of Thanos and Infinnity Go. This is just 293 00:15:50,920 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 4: a really cool, weird ninety story about Silver Surfer and 294 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:58,760 Speaker 4: Thanos and it's what led into Infinity Gorne lit. So 295 00:15:58,800 --> 00:16:00,640 Speaker 4: this is a great place to if you want to 296 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,480 Speaker 4: know how Thanos ended up on the Quest for the Gems. 297 00:16:03,560 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 4: This includes really great art called Danos Quest and it 298 00:16:06,600 --> 00:16:08,040 Speaker 4: is just so much fun. Run them is one of 299 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 4: my absolute favorite artists, just absolutely stunning, brilliant, weird, cosmic art. 300 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 4: If you're looking for something where it's like you want 301 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 4: to be someone who can go into them SEU and 302 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 4: you have a little bit more context on what's going on, 303 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:21,800 Speaker 4: and maybe you want to make up some fan theories 304 00:16:21,880 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 4: or you want to chat to your friends about what happened. 305 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 4: I feel like this is a relevant book. I feel 306 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 4: like this is a good direction to go to, and 307 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 4: it's just really cool. And they actually have this book 308 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 4: wasn't collected very often, but there is a silver Stuff 309 00:16:33,080 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 4: of Rebirth of Thanos collection which is really easy to 310 00:16:35,520 --> 00:16:36,320 Speaker 4: just grab as a trade. 311 00:16:36,880 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 2: I love it. That's a great one. 312 00:16:39,200 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Let's see where will I go? Okay, so let's jump 313 00:16:41,840 --> 00:16:45,520 Speaker 1: to DC. I think if you're listen, this is dead easy. 314 00:16:45,880 --> 00:16:51,320 Speaker 1: You want to know about Batman? Right, Batman? You're one 315 00:16:51,520 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: Frank Miller, David Matsucelli, first of all, that creative team 316 00:16:56,440 --> 00:17:00,920 Speaker 1: in that year did Batman You'r One and Devil Born Again, 317 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:05,480 Speaker 1: which is just two of the top top top greatest 318 00:17:05,640 --> 00:17:09,800 Speaker 1: arcs ever. And Batman Year one. It tells you right 319 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,600 Speaker 1: in the title. 320 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:10,880 Speaker 2: What it is. 321 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:17,280 Speaker 1: It is the first year that Bruce Wayne put on 322 00:17:17,320 --> 00:17:19,880 Speaker 1: the cape, put on the cowl, and started skulking around 323 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 1: at night trying to be Batman. And it's the ups 324 00:17:22,560 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: and downs, the ins and outs, the trial and error 325 00:17:27,840 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: of what you need to do and what you experience 326 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,560 Speaker 1: when you're trying to become a masked vigilante in the 327 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: most crime burden city in DC comics America. 328 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,440 Speaker 2: And the art is just Yeah. 329 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 4: Maza Kelly's as like Conreal. There's so many moments you'll 330 00:17:44,920 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 4: recognize even if you haven't read the comic. When you 331 00:17:47,000 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 4: see it, you'll be like, oh, that's what I ass from. 332 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,680 Speaker 1: Yes, it's just like iconic stuff. The pacing of the art, 333 00:17:54,840 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: the framing, it's just absolutely beautiful. And it's everything you 334 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 1: need to know where Batman comes from and what he 335 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: has to face as he meets a bunch of people 336 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:10,560 Speaker 1: from his Rogues gallery towards the end of the story. 337 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:14,200 Speaker 1: Really really great. Pick it up as a trade perfect 338 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: next zig Once again, what's next. 339 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 3: You know, I don't have any DC because I'm a 340 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:22,640 Speaker 3: company man through and through. But what I do have, 341 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Speaker 3: you know, if you're look at him, that's little bit 342 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: different flavoring from I think traditional Cape superhero comics. You 343 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,920 Speaker 3: gotta check out hell Boy. I highly I mean any Hellboy. 344 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:33,919 Speaker 4: Yeah, just so much great stuff. 345 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,679 Speaker 3: There's so much great there's I mean, the good thing 346 00:18:35,720 --> 00:18:38,440 Speaker 3: about Hellboy is that it's not very serialized, especially this 347 00:18:38,520 --> 00:18:40,280 Speaker 3: first couple of comics. You can just pick up their 348 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:44,359 Speaker 3: basically folklore, So you know, I highly recommend Hellboy, The 349 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 3: Chained Coffin and others like that's the first one that 350 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 3: I read for Hellboy, even. 351 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:50,120 Speaker 4: Like Seed of Destruction, which is volume one, Like that's 352 00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:52,800 Speaker 4: you you can just jump on, like that's such a 353 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 4: good thing. And it does kind of link to DC 354 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:57,800 Speaker 4: because a lot of Mike mcnoll's original work was at DC, 355 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,639 Speaker 4: like he did a little bit Batman, you know, so 356 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:01,720 Speaker 4: I think I think that's a really cool course. That's 357 00:19:01,760 --> 00:19:04,199 Speaker 4: also I think one of the best if you like 358 00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,920 Speaker 4: superhero comic and you want to dive into something that's 359 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:11,679 Speaker 4: more independent creator around, but still has that folkloric, mythological 360 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 4: epic scope. I think Hellboy is like a really good choice. 361 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,439 Speaker 3: Yes, that choice of words is I think is what 362 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,399 Speaker 3: really draws me to it is that you know there 363 00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,679 Speaker 3: most of them are myths and fairy tales and folklore, 364 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,320 Speaker 3: and because just human beings have been telling those things 365 00:19:25,359 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 3: for a thousand of years, Like it instantly feels familiar 366 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 3: but also grandness of scale, but like you could have 367 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:32,359 Speaker 3: a story that lasts you know, ten pages, that is 368 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,120 Speaker 3: in and out, but it feels very complete because we've 369 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:36,360 Speaker 3: heard versions of that as long as I for fort 370 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: since we've been going up forever. But also they are fantastic, 371 00:19:39,680 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: Like the use of colors and shadows that he does 372 00:19:42,760 --> 00:19:46,159 Speaker 3: is just next world. And also it's very nice different 373 00:19:46,160 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 3: spin if you used to like I think the Eight 374 00:19:47,680 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 3: Head the Eight Heads of like Comic Web, like superheres, 375 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 3: everyone's like jacked and like they're like all six foot five. 376 00:19:53,240 --> 00:19:56,040 Speaker 3: It's nice seeing a different take on that. And it's 377 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,440 Speaker 3: also a nice seeing some things that are made outside 378 00:19:58,440 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 3: of like the Big too, if you're looking against some 379 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:01,280 Speaker 3: more independent comics. 380 00:20:01,400 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think as well, like something that could 381 00:20:03,520 --> 00:20:05,679 Speaker 4: really I think is a good another good inroad for 382 00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 4: people who are mostly into Big two is like it's 383 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,199 Speaker 4: almost like a it's a shared universe of folklore, so 384 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 4: you have all these different characters from all over the world, 385 00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,919 Speaker 4: and instead of it being like Batman teaming up with 386 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,359 Speaker 4: you know, the Justice League or whatever, or founding Justice League, 387 00:20:18,440 --> 00:20:21,120 Speaker 4: it's instead you've got like Barba Yaga and like all 388 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: these different but also you know hell Boy and all 389 00:20:23,600 --> 00:20:25,840 Speaker 4: these other like Lobster Johnson, like these characters that Mike 390 00:20:26,000 --> 00:20:28,359 Speaker 4: created as well. I just I think those books are 391 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 4: so wonderful and really cool to see a creator who 392 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:31,840 Speaker 4: got to do a book for such a long time 393 00:20:31,920 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 4: kind of end it on his own terms and then 394 00:20:33,600 --> 00:20:35,920 Speaker 4: he does dip back into it. But that is something 395 00:20:35,920 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 4: if you want to get into something and just do it, 396 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 4: it's you can do that. That can be your seat dive. 397 00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:44,919 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a there's a breaking bad aspect too of 398 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:48,639 Speaker 1: hell Boy, where it's like Mignola keeps putting hell Boy 399 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: into situations where you're like, how's he gonna get out 400 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,399 Speaker 1: of this way? And he gets out of it and 401 00:20:57,400 --> 00:21:01,240 Speaker 1: it ends up mattering and changing. The story is as 402 00:21:01,480 --> 00:21:04,840 Speaker 1: they move forward into it, where things just get worse 403 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: and worse and worse and worse and worse for hell Boy, 404 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:13,679 Speaker 1: who's you know, entire struggle as a character is trying 405 00:21:13,720 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: to avoid the fate laid out to him. And each 406 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,320 Speaker 1: time he each time he like puts the fade off 407 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:23,720 Speaker 1: for a little while, it comes back stronger and he 408 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:25,959 Speaker 1: has to resist it even stronger again, and it just 409 00:21:26,520 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 1: it's a great, great arc all the way through. 410 00:21:28,720 --> 00:21:31,040 Speaker 2: Could not agree one, Rosie. 411 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm gonna use you know, Zigg's very good 412 00:21:35,359 --> 00:21:40,080 Speaker 4: deflection to go back to his distinguished competitions. So if 413 00:21:40,440 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 4: you if you read, if you read, if you read 414 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,199 Speaker 4: hall Boy, and you love it, and you're like, what 415 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 4: is dark and weird and similar? But what exists in 416 00:21:50,160 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 4: this this DC space that I love with this? So 417 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:54,199 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go for Saga of the swamp Thing the 418 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,400 Speaker 4: nineteen eighty four to so from Sagara Swamping twenty one, 419 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 4: which is when Alan Moore, Stephen Besset John Tottlebin and 420 00:22:00,119 --> 00:22:05,080 Speaker 4: that is like the weirdest best stuff ever. So this 421 00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 4: is really where the swamp Thing. The Swamping was created 422 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:10,440 Speaker 4: by Lem Wayne and Bernie Wrightson, and it's this great 423 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,120 Speaker 4: horror character. But here basically just before this they kill 424 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,840 Speaker 4: swamp Thing, he gets shot in the head and so 425 00:22:16,880 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 4: Alan Moore basically was like, wow, he's made of plants. 426 00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,160 Speaker 4: So he just comes back to life, and it really 427 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,639 Speaker 4: it reinvents it. It introduces a lot of the stuff 428 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:27,399 Speaker 4: that we know about swamp thing, and it has this 429 00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 4: absolutely incredible issue called Rights of Spring, which is like 430 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 4: super notorious because it's basically this super trippy swamp thing, 431 00:22:35,600 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 4: basically like giving a tuba off himself for his girlfriend 432 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:45,639 Speaker 4: to eat and then they trip together and like unbelievable, 433 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:48,000 Speaker 4: And I just think that is That's the kind of 434 00:22:48,000 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 4: comic you can give to anyone. Like if someone's really 435 00:22:50,119 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 4: really into horror and they love Talboy, for example, you 436 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 4: can give it to them. If you've got if you 437 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,000 Speaker 4: want to get a comic for your parents or someone 438 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:59,320 Speaker 4: older and they just really appreciate more classical style art, 439 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,000 Speaker 4: that's a great election. If somebody's read Watchmen and they 440 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 4: want to know other Alan more stuff to read, like, 441 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 4: there's just it's just so much fun, and they've really 442 00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:08,399 Speaker 4: done a great job of collecting it. It's also a 443 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 4: good back issue comic. If you're a collector, you can 444 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:13,080 Speaker 4: go to your local comic shop. You can probably find 445 00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 4: that issue twenty one for kind of ten to fifteen bucks, 446 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:18,000 Speaker 4: and you can sort of start a fun collection. So 447 00:23:18,119 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: I think it's a really nice comic for a lot 448 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:20,440 Speaker 4: of different reasons. 449 00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:21,400 Speaker 2: Wow, this is great. 450 00:23:21,440 --> 00:23:28,520 Speaker 1: Okay, So I am going to say, gosh, I'm Ultimate 451 00:23:28,520 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 1: Spider Man. 452 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,199 Speaker 4: I just think, Jason, that is not decenta. 453 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:35,320 Speaker 2: I'm sorry. 454 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 1: Going back to going back to Marvel, Marvel's Ultimate Universe. 455 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: So the Ultimate Universe was a initiative that Marvel put 456 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: into place early two thousands that was basically like, how 457 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,920 Speaker 1: do we how do we bring the Marvel Universe into 458 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:52,200 Speaker 1: the modern world, right? 459 00:23:52,840 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 2: And so. 460 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: It's it's just great. There's I think it's about one 461 00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:02,880 Speaker 1: hundred and sixty issues all told, I want to say, 462 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: And you know, just read it all the way up 463 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: through spoiler, the death of Spider Man, the introduction of 464 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Miles Marnallas. 465 00:24:11,920 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 3: Good. 466 00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 4: It's so good. 467 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: It hurts so so so good, Mark Bagley, Stuart Immanen 468 00:24:21,800 --> 00:24:26,520 Speaker 1: and others, and it you know, it puts Peter Parker 469 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:30,080 Speaker 1: into early two thousands New York. You get to see 470 00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:34,360 Speaker 1: it's and it is a real like Peter Parker as 471 00:24:34,400 --> 00:24:39,400 Speaker 1: a teen figuring it out. You feel the danger of 472 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: what could happen. If these various villains find out about 473 00:24:44,359 --> 00:24:48,840 Speaker 1: Peter Parker's secret identity, and you know, because it is 474 00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: Ultimate Universe, there are real stakes which again lead to 475 00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:56,919 Speaker 1: Peter Parker's absolutely heartbreaking death. 476 00:24:57,640 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 2: Great, great run. 477 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,760 Speaker 4: It's so good. It has to one of my favorite 478 00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:04,800 Speaker 4: Spider Man moments of all time. Yeah, there's the absolutely, 479 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,439 Speaker 4: there's the there's the I always remember, like post the 480 00:25:07,480 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 4: death of Spider Man, there's a scene with Miles and 481 00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:13,400 Speaker 4: he's like remembering Peter with all these different family members 482 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:15,880 Speaker 4: that is that has like there's a scene I think 483 00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 4: it's Gwen or someone who's remembering and that she like 484 00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,160 Speaker 4: imagines what their whole life would have been. Like, Yeah, 485 00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:24,320 Speaker 4: it's like a silent page with and it is so good, 486 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 4: and we talk. We talk about Clamont a lot, and 487 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: this was actually I think Bendis overtook Clamont as the 488 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:33,240 Speaker 4: longest writer on one run during on a Spider Man. 489 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,680 Speaker 4: So that's like also a milestone. 490 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: And there's a handoff, like to hand off from an 491 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: iconic character Peter Parker two Miles Morales and do it 492 00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 1: in a way where it honors both characters and you're like, 493 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: Miles Morales immediately enters the pantheon of comic. 494 00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:53,919 Speaker 3: Immediate like it. 495 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:57,440 Speaker 2: That is so hard to do and they absolutely pull 496 00:25:57,440 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 2: it off. 497 00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,600 Speaker 3: And also a character built as a clap back to 498 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 3: all the they were like, yeah, we don't want to yes, 499 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: a non white Spider Man, Like, oh, we're not only 500 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 3: going to make one, but he's going to become like 501 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,080 Speaker 3: the face of like the generation of Spider Man going forward. Now, 502 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:08,960 Speaker 3: that's who. 503 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,920 Speaker 4: Kids dress up as. Now, like, that's who my nephew 504 00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:12,919 Speaker 4: dresses up as. That's who kids that con dress up as. 505 00:26:12,920 --> 00:26:15,000 Speaker 4: It doesn't matter who it is. Miles Morle has that suit, 506 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,680 Speaker 4: that beautiful red and black suit, the sneakers like that 507 00:26:18,840 --> 00:26:21,200 Speaker 4: is and obviously into the Spider Verse. Just the best 508 00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,239 Speaker 4: Spider Man movie of all time. And yeah that I 509 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 4: think that's such a great recommendation because that's another one too, 510 00:26:27,000 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 4: where like a lot of times, getting into comics, it's 511 00:26:30,040 --> 00:26:32,520 Speaker 4: sporadic issues. Yeah yeah, but oh I'm a Spider Man. 512 00:26:32,600 --> 00:26:35,040 Speaker 4: That is like Jason said, like one hundred and sixty issues. 513 00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,000 Speaker 4: You can just dive in there and go on a journey, 514 00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:40,240 Speaker 4: like a decade long class journey, and you'll be in 515 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,520 Speaker 4: a really good space to understand Miles and where he 516 00:26:43,560 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 4: comes from. And then the best thing about comics, there 517 00:26:46,600 --> 00:26:48,919 Speaker 4: are other great Miles stories told by people more like 518 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 4: Miles now, so you kind of get to see the 519 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,600 Speaker 4: evolution of that character. That's so cool. 520 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:57,560 Speaker 1: One more round of entry arcs for new readers, and 521 00:26:57,600 --> 00:27:00,720 Speaker 1: then we'll go to some of our favorite art and 522 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: trade zig Uh. 523 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:05,800 Speaker 3: You know what, I think I've tapped out my Marvel 524 00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:09,040 Speaker 3: like I got I'll shout out for Hawkeye, Fractured Idges, 525 00:27:09,080 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 3: Hawkeye just because Hawkeye is dropping. It's fantasic, fantastic art, 526 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,280 Speaker 3: really really funny, great stuff. But for another non DC, 527 00:27:16,480 --> 00:27:22,520 Speaker 3: non Marvel, Kirkman's Invincible, much like like Ultimate spider Man 528 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:24,840 Speaker 3: Businesses spider Man is also I think it's like one 529 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:28,439 Speaker 3: hundred and twenty something issues like that. I truthfully, I 530 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 3: just re read them all, like not too long ago 531 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:32,960 Speaker 3: when an Invincible TV show came out, so like it's 532 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 3: a nice modern take on on like this Peter Parker 533 00:27:37,160 --> 00:27:39,640 Speaker 3: story subbed in for like little mix of Peter park 534 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:43,400 Speaker 3: a little mix of Spider Man or of Superman. Yeah, 535 00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,119 Speaker 3: and beautiful art Ryan Yes, just artist fantastic, Like the 536 00:27:49,359 --> 00:27:51,920 Speaker 3: the way that they also sort of have a running 537 00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 3: theme of their jokes where they'll just have love repeated 538 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,119 Speaker 3: panels like I love that, Like I I steal that 539 00:27:56,160 --> 00:27:57,880 Speaker 3: from my own work because I think it's very fun. Also, 540 00:27:57,880 --> 00:27:59,399 Speaker 3: it's very economic if you're trying to. 541 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,200 Speaker 4: Get a story fun, because it's a really met a 542 00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760 Speaker 4: joke where it's like it's partially done because of economy, 543 00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:05,840 Speaker 4: but it's also sometimes done as the joke of you 544 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:08,199 Speaker 4: thinking it's economy, so you're like it's cheaper to just 545 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:11,359 Speaker 4: and quicker to just. So it's like a comic about 546 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 4: making comics as well, which is really fun. 547 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,600 Speaker 3: It's really fun. I really recommend it. It's great seeing 548 00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,440 Speaker 3: an anyhow, any comic like that that has also sort 549 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 3: of broken too the barrier, not unlike Spawn or Boy. 550 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:24,560 Speaker 3: And it's also just getting a nice fresh take like 551 00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:26,600 Speaker 3: most of the comic calls up, there's some stuff that 552 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:29,720 Speaker 3: is like, oh boy, this was obviously not written in 553 00:28:29,800 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 3: this point, but it's it's still still really really fun 554 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 3: read and highly recommend. If you're going to get like 555 00:28:34,600 --> 00:28:36,719 Speaker 3: a new sort of span on like the Spider Man, 556 00:28:36,800 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 3: Superman Lore, the fresh fresh eyes. 557 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:42,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm going to go for something that's like a 558 00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 4: farm more out there. But if you if you grew 559 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,600 Speaker 4: up on like a Calvin and Hobbes or you like 560 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:48,840 Speaker 4: strip cartooning that kind of stuff, but you also like 561 00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 4: too There's this unbelievable book from twenty fifteen called Super 562 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 4: Mutant Magic Academy, which is by Jillian Tamaki, who's the 563 00:28:54,800 --> 00:28:59,120 Speaker 4: most incredible cartoonist, and it's basically it's a series of 564 00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 4: one or two comics that are interlinked about a group 565 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,400 Speaker 4: of kids at like a magic school, and it's kind 566 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: of Harry Potter meets Xaviers, but it's super funny, and 567 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:10,320 Speaker 4: it can go kind of like Kellyn's. It can go 568 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:14,440 Speaker 4: from these really humorous panels about like teenage weirdness to 569 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:17,440 Speaker 4: a character who he's just he never dies and it's 570 00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:21,160 Speaker 4: like this existential nightmare throughout the comic. And that is 571 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,440 Speaker 4: like one. The book is beautiful. It's like this big, chunky, 572 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,400 Speaker 4: square book and that you can get that in most 573 00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:28,760 Speaker 4: local comic book shops at your library. Libraries love that 574 00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 4: book and it is just so much fun and it's 575 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:37,280 Speaker 4: really kind of weird and smart and silly and totally independent. 576 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:39,600 Speaker 4: And I think that is just a really cool space 577 00:29:39,640 --> 00:29:41,479 Speaker 4: if you want to start dipping your toes into more 578 00:29:41,560 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 4: kind of like experimental cartooning or indie comics. And Jillian 579 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 4: has done a bunch of amazing books, including this one 580 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 4: Summer with Marico Tomki. So there's just it's a great 581 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,719 Speaker 4: place to start. But it is so fun, especially if 582 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 4: you like X Men, You'll just be living life because 583 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 4: it is like it's like the funniest, weirdest X Men parody. 584 00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,239 Speaker 2: I will I'm putting that on my list right now. 585 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:03,760 Speaker 4: It's so good. It's like, I will go to the 586 00:30:03,800 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 4: book is beautiful, Like if you love to have a 587 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:07,320 Speaker 4: nice book on your shelves, just go and buy it. 588 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:09,840 Speaker 4: It's like it's so good, it's so so good. 589 00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 3: I'm literally buying it right now. 590 00:30:12,440 --> 00:30:17,680 Speaker 1: Jillians, I love so to jump in and learn about stuff. 591 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 2: I am going to pick. 592 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 1: You know, early two thousand's Marvel was kind of like 593 00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: defined by certain creators. I think Brian Michael Bendas is 594 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,680 Speaker 1: probably the big one, And so I'm going to say 595 00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:37,600 Speaker 1: Avengers Disassembled into which is like a self contained arc. 596 00:30:37,640 --> 00:30:40,520 Speaker 1: You can get it as a trade into. Brian Michael 597 00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:46,080 Speaker 1: Bendis with David Fintion and Steve Mcnivin's new Avengers run, 598 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,720 Speaker 1: which is so the Avengers have broken up, one of 599 00:30:49,720 --> 00:31:01,480 Speaker 1: the many many many make the country. But it's so 600 00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: The great thing about Avengers Disassembled is you you read 601 00:31:05,200 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: it great art, and you feel like, wow, this is 602 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:09,960 Speaker 1: this is this is it. 603 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:12,040 Speaker 2: The Avengers are no more. I can't believe it. 604 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 1: There's like people holding up candles outside the Avengers mansion. 605 00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:18,760 Speaker 1: This is this is first, this is a cataclysm. 606 00:31:19,160 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 2: Meanwhile, it's like the Avengers. 607 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 3: Have broken up like a dozen times. 608 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 1: Don't worry, don't worry about it. But running into new Avengers, 609 00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:31,920 Speaker 1: you get this. You get a new team as Earth's 610 00:31:31,960 --> 00:31:35,080 Speaker 1: mightiest heroes try and figure it out. They don't have 611 00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,440 Speaker 1: the kind of financial backing of Tony Stark anymore. It's 612 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: gonna look more rough and ready. 613 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 3: Uh. 614 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: And it's a really cool mix of characters including you know, Wolverine, 615 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: Captain Marvel, you know Clint Barton in the Ronan costume 616 00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:59,120 Speaker 1: for some reason. But it's super fun and it threads 617 00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:02,400 Speaker 1: through a lot of the big events that happened during 618 00:32:02,400 --> 00:32:05,760 Speaker 1: that era, Civil War, siege, etc. And so you get 619 00:32:05,800 --> 00:32:10,400 Speaker 1: like this kind of smattering of big events and it 620 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:15,080 Speaker 1: takes you basically up to the stuff that's happening now 621 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,719 Speaker 1: as a launch Pad, really fun run with you know, 622 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:23,719 Speaker 1: big fights, lots of stakes and that kind of like 623 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 1: bend to see a lot of words coming at you, 624 00:32:27,080 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 1: but in a great way. So check it out. Let's 625 00:32:37,360 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: go to our favorite graphic novels and or comic runs. 626 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: Usually these runs are going to be contained in trades 627 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:48,520 Speaker 1: that are easy for people to pick up. 628 00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 2: So let's start with Musig What do you got. 629 00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 3: I'm going to go with a truly indie indie book 630 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:58,720 Speaker 3: as a series called Very Near Mint by Justin Peterson. 631 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:01,160 Speaker 3: I think think I found it when I was in 632 00:33:01,320 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 3: art school. Uh. He had like a random Kickstarter. I 633 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,920 Speaker 3: was like, it's basically Clerks in a comic book shop. 634 00:33:06,000 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: Was like I got to read this, uh and and 635 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:10,680 Speaker 3: and it's great. It's super super funny. It has that 636 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,560 Speaker 3: indie spirits like it's a it's a black and white comic. 637 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 3: And my first one to one with that is with 638 00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: Clerks because it was also, yeah, they couldn't afford to 639 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 3: pay for color films, so they did it black and white. 640 00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,280 Speaker 3: It's super super funny. Justin has got a very funny 641 00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 3: sense of style. I love his art. I love anything 642 00:33:25,480 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 3: that that that that that sticks the landing on being 643 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:30,200 Speaker 3: a piece of indie art made for a very beach audience, 644 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:32,760 Speaker 3: which is comic book fans, but then also combook fans 645 00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: that are aware of how other combook fans actually and 646 00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:36,000 Speaker 3: and like. 647 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,800 Speaker 4: How comic shops work, and like that kind of interior, 648 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 4: the kind of stuff that we talk about between off friends, 649 00:33:42,080 --> 00:33:44,320 Speaker 4: like and ann your local shop and stuff that's really 650 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:45,080 Speaker 4: hard to capture. 651 00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, I I I think you can. I know that 652 00:33:47,920 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 3: you can buy I think it might be mostly out 653 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:51,479 Speaker 3: of print, but you can buy a PDF of it 654 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 3: from Justin's website. I think it's probably like volume one 655 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 3: maybe on Amazon or something like that. But I highly 656 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,800 Speaker 3: recommend I looking for something that's like a little bit 657 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 3: off the beaten path, and also if looking for like 658 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:04,440 Speaker 3: as flat out comedy graphic novel series very near man. 659 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 3: I think there's three volumes out and I think you 660 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:07,920 Speaker 3: may have done a couple like shorts and stuff too. 661 00:34:08,040 --> 00:34:10,359 Speaker 3: High recommend that if you can find it, really really 662 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,640 Speaker 3: great series. And also it's a nice just a different take, 663 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,120 Speaker 3: and I think on what a lot of people think 664 00:34:14,120 --> 00:34:16,920 Speaker 3: comics of being like capes in superheroes. 665 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,520 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, mine, I'm going to go for another black 666 00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,239 Speaker 4: and white comic too, and this is We've been talking 667 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,320 Speaker 4: a lot about these arcs that you can just jump 668 00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 4: into and have like four years. So mine is Love 669 00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:28,200 Speaker 4: and Rockets by the Hernandez put Yeah, I love them 670 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,080 Speaker 4: so much. This is like the ultimate indie comic. It's 671 00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,399 Speaker 4: been going on for decades now. And the cool thing 672 00:34:35,480 --> 00:34:37,920 Speaker 4: is it's if you want, it's very easy to collect 673 00:34:37,960 --> 00:34:40,520 Speaker 4: the first like fifty issues of magazine size. It's really 674 00:34:40,520 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 4: fun thing to collect. But Fantagraphics has a ton of 675 00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,439 Speaker 4: really cool story collections where they collect together arcs about 676 00:34:46,440 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 4: different characters because it's kind of nonlinear in that way. 677 00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 4: But there's two major aspects of the story. There's the 678 00:34:52,640 --> 00:34:55,200 Speaker 4: Maggie and Hopie, who are two friends slash on time 679 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: like lovers on and off, and they're in the punk 680 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 4: scene in La the Mexican punk scene in La in 681 00:35:02,080 --> 00:35:05,760 Speaker 4: the kind of seventies eighties, and they grow up real time, 682 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:08,120 Speaker 4: so now they have grown up as you read the book. 683 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:10,719 Speaker 4: And then there's a Palomar, which is kind of this 684 00:35:11,120 --> 00:35:13,799 Speaker 4: small town and the lives of people who live there 685 00:35:13,840 --> 00:35:15,719 Speaker 4: and they are just like this is some of the 686 00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,120 Speaker 4: best cartooning I have, Like multiple Love and Rocket status, 687 00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:19,440 Speaker 4: the Henandez Bros. 688 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:21,000 Speaker 3: Are La Edges. 689 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 4: You can go to any convention, Yere and Hi May 690 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,359 Speaker 4: Will and Gilbert will just be their chilling sign in. 691 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,799 Speaker 4: Like I almost died the first time the first time 692 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 4: I went to Comic On. They were at the fanographics 693 00:35:30,920 --> 00:35:33,000 Speaker 4: table and Grant Morrison was at the heavy metal table, 694 00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:34,880 Speaker 4: and I was like, what the fuck is this? What? What? 695 00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 4: This is? What you guys get at San Diego? You 696 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,839 Speaker 4: can just go and and yeah, they're really great if 697 00:35:39,920 --> 00:35:42,799 Speaker 4: you love rock music, if you love punk, if you 698 00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,240 Speaker 4: love comics, if you want to read a queer comic 699 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:48,000 Speaker 4: that's been going on for like forty years, the early 700 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,880 Speaker 4: stuff Maggie the Mechanic that's very sci fi, very influential 701 00:35:51,920 --> 00:35:53,880 Speaker 4: on like Cadillacs and Dinosaurs, stuff like that. And I 702 00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,799 Speaker 4: just I cannot sing the praises of that book enough. 703 00:35:56,840 --> 00:35:58,200 Speaker 4: And it's the kind again kind of book you can 704 00:35:58,239 --> 00:35:58,840 Speaker 4: give to anyone. 705 00:35:59,600 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 3: This this is just tangerous with that. But have you 706 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:04,240 Speaker 3: read The Queen of the Rings the right wrestling drawings? 707 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640 Speaker 4: Of course ten ten was waiting for that for so long. 708 00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:09,919 Speaker 3: It's just if you're looking for just like a nice 709 00:36:10,040 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 3: art book by her behind me her Nandez. It's just 710 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 3: him drawing a bunch of fantastic female wrestlers from from 711 00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 3: all the decades. It's a nice little material. 712 00:36:17,280 --> 00:36:18,759 Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think it's like it's like thirty five 713 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,520 Speaker 4: dollars or something from panographics. I thought it was gonna 714 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,239 Speaker 4: be like one hundred and fifty dollars art book. But 715 00:36:22,280 --> 00:36:24,200 Speaker 4: I went to hiding her comics and I was like, Wow, 716 00:36:24,360 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 4: this is afootable and I love it. Yeah, that's and 717 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,840 Speaker 4: that's another thing. There's a whole bunch of wrestling and 718 00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 4: kind of like the like female wrestling characters throughout. So 719 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,560 Speaker 4: it's just a really eclectic, wonderful set of comics. 720 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,800 Speaker 1: I am going to pick I'm going to go India 721 00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 1: as well. I'm gonna pick Fantasy Sports and I volume 722 00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: and three volumes one, two, and three, Like how to 723 00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: explain it? 724 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:51,799 Speaker 2: So that it is. 725 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: It follows the adventures of Wiz and Mug, a young 726 00:36:55,560 --> 00:37:00,839 Speaker 1: girl and her her muscle bound friend, and they take 727 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,800 Speaker 1: on various sports themed challenges and it's just an absolute delight. 728 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:10,239 Speaker 1: The art style is like the best way I could 729 00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:12,120 Speaker 1: describe it is when I was a kid and I 730 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,359 Speaker 1: was and I was drawing a lot this. 731 00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,759 Speaker 2: Is what I wish. It's like. 732 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: Just so detailed, beautiful, like manga meets Mike mgnola kind 733 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,680 Speaker 1: of style. And yeah, it's an over It comes in 734 00:37:27,719 --> 00:37:32,600 Speaker 1: an oversized hardcover three volume edition. You can get it. 735 00:37:32,640 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 1: You can order it through your local comic shop, you 736 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: can order through a bookshop. You can order it from Amazon. 737 00:37:36,560 --> 00:37:37,920 Speaker 2: If you wish. 738 00:37:38,040 --> 00:37:43,200 Speaker 1: And it's just beautiful and all ages. If you're not 739 00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:46,200 Speaker 1: a you don't need to know a lot of lore 740 00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,399 Speaker 1: to read it. You can give it to a kid 741 00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:52,160 Speaker 1: and they would love it. As an adult, you will 742 00:37:52,200 --> 00:37:57,080 Speaker 1: love it. It's just fantastic. You can't I can't recommend it Highland. 743 00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,399 Speaker 4: Rare English language sports comic and it's that mixture. Yeah, 744 00:38:00,440 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 4: and it takes that manga sports comic vibe that puts 745 00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 4: it in this really extreme like fantasy. I love that. 746 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 4: As soon as I saw that, I was like, I 747 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:11,720 Speaker 4: hope that's what It's so good. That is just so good. 748 00:38:12,040 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 4: I love those books. 749 00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,480 Speaker 3: You know what I'm gonna You know, since you mentioned 750 00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 3: the the sort of manga inspiration for fancay sports, I 751 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:21,120 Speaker 3: gotta do. Scott Pilgrim. 752 00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:21,480 Speaker 1: Uh. 753 00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 3: It was one of the first first non superhero DC 754 00:38:26,400 --> 00:38:29,479 Speaker 3: Marvel comics that I read or graphic novels that I read. 755 00:38:30,040 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 3: I also was like a little punk shithead when I 756 00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,600 Speaker 3: was in when I was younger, so like I could 757 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:38,120 Speaker 3: very much relates. I was very much. Oh yeah, I've 758 00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:40,239 Speaker 3: played at those type of shows and met those type 759 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,880 Speaker 3: of people. Like it very much captured what I what 760 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:45,440 Speaker 3: I thought my twenties was being in like a shitty, 761 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 3: shitty band. Scott does not hold up too much. 762 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 4: Now, I think that's the point there, right, Like you 763 00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:52,120 Speaker 4: grow and you're like, yeah. 764 00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:55,680 Speaker 3: Scott's an asshole, like anyone else should Kim Pine really 765 00:38:55,719 --> 00:38:58,319 Speaker 3: should have been the hero of this. Yeah, but it's great, 766 00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 3: it's great. I think they released some colored versions. 767 00:39:01,400 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 4: Now, have the beautiful Brian actually I think colored them 768 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:04,439 Speaker 4: himself as well. 769 00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:06,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, so like if you want to get a text 770 00:39:06,560 --> 00:39:08,400 Speaker 3: for either one, like I personally love the black and 771 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 3: white stuff. 772 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:12,160 Speaker 4: And only then they're all like manga side. Yeah, it's 773 00:39:12,239 --> 00:39:15,440 Speaker 4: really nice, easy to read. Yeah, that is such a 774 00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 4: great And if you like the movie, which obviously is 775 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,719 Speaker 4: like so iconic, the book is really great because it 776 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:23,319 Speaker 4: just expands. It's so similar, but it just you get 777 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,600 Speaker 4: more time with Kim, you get more time with Ramony, 778 00:39:25,640 --> 00:39:28,000 Speaker 4: you get more time with Knives obviously Justice for Knives 779 00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:33,520 Speaker 4: like the best character. Like I just I love Scott Pilgrim. 780 00:39:33,640 --> 00:39:35,319 Speaker 4: I'm so stoked you picked that because that is like 781 00:39:35,400 --> 00:39:37,839 Speaker 4: I love Brianley, O'Malley. I love Seconds as well. It's 782 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:39,960 Speaker 4: like one of my favorite books. But Scott Pilgrim is 783 00:39:40,239 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 4: that's another great give it to anyone. 784 00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,239 Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, anyone can get it, especially now that 785 00:39:44,360 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 3: like people are into these things now it's not just 786 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:48,160 Speaker 3: niche as being like, oh I'm into video games, but 787 00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:50,600 Speaker 3: also you know music and all that stuff, like everyone's 788 00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:53,480 Speaker 3: doing that. Yeah, it's great. It's a really fun easy 789 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:56,200 Speaker 3: into that. And also you can see like like like 790 00:39:56,200 --> 00:39:59,000 Speaker 3: like like she said, you can get a bigger expansion 791 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,840 Speaker 3: like what was sort of pair down from the film 792 00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:02,920 Speaker 3: that I think, you know, eggar Wright knocked out of 793 00:40:02,920 --> 00:40:05,480 Speaker 3: the park. I could really captured the spirit of pokem 794 00:40:05,480 --> 00:40:06,080 Speaker 3: books as well. 795 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, well we did a lot of like manga influence. 796 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,920 Speaker 4: So I'm going to do I got three manga books 797 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 4: on my list. Okay, so I'm gonna go for the 798 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:17,120 Speaker 4: classic because we're doing kind of good in way, So 799 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:20,680 Speaker 4: I'm gonna go for Kira by Cats Heiro Tomu at Tomo. 800 00:40:20,719 --> 00:40:23,919 Speaker 4: It's like one of the best comics ever made. It's 801 00:40:23,960 --> 00:40:27,719 Speaker 4: super easy to read because they have these huge telephone 802 00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,760 Speaker 4: book sized collections that you can get any comic shop. 803 00:40:32,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 4: It is a dystopian, sprawling sci fi masterpiece. If you've 804 00:40:38,080 --> 00:40:40,880 Speaker 4: seen the movie, that's literally like one book, if not 805 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:42,799 Speaker 4: a little bit less than one book. So there's a 806 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: lot to deep dive into. One of the most influential 807 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:50,200 Speaker 4: aesthetic of all time, movie and book. The art is 808 00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,239 Speaker 4: so dense and incredible, and you could look at those 809 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:56,400 Speaker 4: I've got the full set that Dark Horse did with 810 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,520 Speaker 4: all of the books. You can look at them for days. 811 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:00,799 Speaker 3: I hate so much going on, what's going on? 812 00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 4: And and you can literally if you commit to it 813 00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,200 Speaker 4: and you buy those collections, you could enjoy that for years. 814 00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,319 Speaker 4: Like you can read one, you can take it in 815 00:41:08,600 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 4: and then you can take a break and you can 816 00:41:09,880 --> 00:41:13,879 Speaker 4: read another one, and like it is just so good 817 00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 4: and it is obviously always just go back and watch 818 00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 4: a Carror as well. It's like one of the best 819 00:41:17,719 --> 00:41:21,200 Speaker 4: movies ever made. But that is such a great place 820 00:41:21,719 --> 00:41:24,640 Speaker 4: if you want to get into. I wouldn't say, like, oh, 821 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 4: read that if you just want to get into manga, 822 00:41:26,280 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 4: because you could probably read like Bleach or or a 823 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,040 Speaker 4: Ramd Mahalf or anything that's a bit more accessible. But 824 00:41:32,120 --> 00:41:34,560 Speaker 4: if you want to get something, you can just totally 825 00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:36,840 Speaker 4: lose yourself in and read one of the most like 826 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:38,680 Speaker 4: influential sci fi a different tier. 827 00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 3: It's a different tier of like yeah, of of a 828 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:43,399 Speaker 3: book that you're reading. When it comes to that, it's 829 00:41:43,400 --> 00:41:45,759 Speaker 3: not just like dragon Balls your Hunter Hunter, it's like, oh, 830 00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,720 Speaker 3: this is yeah. 831 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:48,200 Speaker 4: You know what's gonna happen. They get have some sick fight, 832 00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:52,400 Speaker 4: like go and find some gems, like yeah. 833 00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:54,400 Speaker 3: Maybe there's a monkey that has any exactly. 834 00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:56,480 Speaker 4: But the other thing about a Curreror as well is 835 00:41:56,840 --> 00:41:59,880 Speaker 4: I think if you are an American comics reader or 836 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,359 Speaker 4: even just a fan of American sci fi movies, and 837 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 4: that is a book where you will read it and 838 00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,200 Speaker 4: you'll be like, oh, I see that's where they got 839 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:09,319 Speaker 4: that from. Like yeah, even and if you love like 840 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:11,000 Speaker 4: an artist, like I know me and Jason talking about 841 00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,160 Speaker 4: a lot, but like our Adams is such an incredible artist. 842 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:16,239 Speaker 4: There's a lot of similarities. They're they're dense, like beautiful, 843 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,839 Speaker 4: intricate in depth work that you can just look at 844 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:22,480 Speaker 4: for hours. So Akira is always Oh and you know 845 00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:24,840 Speaker 4: what else, I actually do love that, I always do shout. 846 00:42:25,680 --> 00:42:28,000 Speaker 4: Marvel did a really weird thing in the nineties where 847 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:31,279 Speaker 4: they put a ton of money and got mobius like 848 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,040 Speaker 4: the icon, and they bought everyone in to make these 849 00:42:36,680 --> 00:42:40,880 Speaker 4: for Epic, their imprint Epic. They made these colored reprints 850 00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:45,680 Speaker 4: of Akira single issues, and so they changed the direction, 851 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,840 Speaker 4: which I never agree with, but they made it. Basically, 852 00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 4: they spent the time and effort to take this Japanese 853 00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 4: comic and translate it in a way that they would 854 00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:57,920 Speaker 4: hope would make it accessible for American readers. But if 855 00:42:57,920 --> 00:42:59,799 Speaker 4: you can get your hands on that, the colored art 856 00:42:59,880 --> 00:43:03,320 Speaker 4: is so cool and it was all done like Catsira 857 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:05,440 Speaker 4: was involved to an extent. I have I have actually 858 00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:07,959 Speaker 4: had got that whole collection of the single issues because 859 00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:10,320 Speaker 4: it's just so cool to look at. So any version 860 00:43:10,320 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 4: of a Kira you can pick up American reprint single 861 00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,040 Speaker 4: issue versions, you can pick up those big dark Horse 862 00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,680 Speaker 4: telephone books, which are probably also at your library at 863 00:43:18,680 --> 00:43:21,319 Speaker 4: this point, and yeah, just just have some fun with that, 864 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,279 Speaker 4: because that is a that's a fucking. 865 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:27,040 Speaker 2: Cool book, man. I Wow, these are also great. 866 00:43:27,120 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: I am gonna pick Uh We Three by Grant Morrison 867 00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:36,960 Speaker 1: and Frank Quietly for issue limited series UH trade paperback. 868 00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279 Speaker 1: You know, like listen, if you got into comics, if 869 00:43:39,280 --> 00:43:43,520 Speaker 1: you like nerd stuff, if you like comics, you you're 870 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,960 Speaker 1: an outsider. At one point in your life you felt 871 00:43:45,960 --> 00:43:48,680 Speaker 1: like I needed, I need I need a different perspective. 872 00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:52,640 Speaker 1: I feel like I am I'm not in a I'm 873 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,320 Speaker 1: out of step with the world. Is probably a feeling 874 00:43:55,360 --> 00:43:56,280 Speaker 1: you felt, and. 875 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,719 Speaker 2: We Three captures that. It will break your heart. 876 00:44:00,120 --> 00:44:01,759 Speaker 4: Jason's trying to make you cry. It is trying to 877 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 4: make you cry. 878 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 2: It will break your heart. 879 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,640 Speaker 1: It is about It is about three animals who is 880 00:44:09,880 --> 00:44:14,719 Speaker 1: who uh escape from a military testing facility where they 881 00:44:14,800 --> 00:44:18,719 Speaker 1: were turned into weapons and they just want to live 882 00:44:18,760 --> 00:44:24,240 Speaker 1: a peaceful life and they are such close, loving friends 883 00:44:24,280 --> 00:44:24,919 Speaker 1: to each other. 884 00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 2: Uh. 885 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:30,640 Speaker 1: And this story will absolutely it will crush you happy ending, 886 00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:34,319 Speaker 1: but on the way there it will fucking. 887 00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,879 Speaker 4: It's so basical like that. That is the comic where 888 00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:40,799 Speaker 4: when I worked in a comic shop, and if i've 889 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,359 Speaker 4: if I have relatives or someone who's been given it, 890 00:44:43,440 --> 00:44:45,279 Speaker 4: that is the number one comic where people go, oh, 891 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 4: when's the next part? Because you can't believe like the four, 892 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:53,560 Speaker 4: you get so absolutely connected and invested. It's like it's 893 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:56,040 Speaker 4: heartbreaking that there's no more, but it's also perfect. 894 00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:58,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, so yeahful. 895 00:44:58,880 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 2: It will crush you. 896 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:05,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, you will Frank quietly, Frank quietly and Morrison together. 897 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:13,279 Speaker 1: It's like the perfect melding of immense creativity, like like 898 00:45:13,480 --> 00:45:20,040 Speaker 1: grounded fresh flesh and blood, uh, imagery and textures and 899 00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:21,359 Speaker 1: just pure imagination. 900 00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:24,080 Speaker 2: And again, this book. 901 00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 5: Will bres It will break your heart if you are 902 00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,560 Speaker 5: the if you are the type of comic book reader, 903 00:45:32,600 --> 00:45:35,080 Speaker 5: slash nerd person who's. 904 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,359 Speaker 1: Like I've always felt outside of things, get ready because 905 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:41,520 Speaker 1: three is going to stab you in the chist and. 906 00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:44,400 Speaker 4: He hasn't, like Jason hasn't even half prepared you, Like, 907 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:45,680 Speaker 4: thank he's being hyperbolic. 908 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:51,160 Speaker 3: This is actually soft to go through. Yeah, if you're 909 00:45:51,160 --> 00:45:52,759 Speaker 3: trying to have a bad week, check it out. 910 00:45:53,800 --> 00:45:54,960 Speaker 2: It will give you a bad week. 911 00:45:55,000 --> 00:45:57,319 Speaker 1: But but again it will end in a place that 912 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,279 Speaker 1: you will feel good about it. But it will it 913 00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:04,759 Speaker 1: will destroy you. Okay, what comics are that are ongoing? 914 00:46:05,400 --> 00:46:07,880 Speaker 1: Are we excited about right now? Zig? 915 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:12,400 Speaker 3: This is uh from an artist in Peach Momoco Demon Days. 916 00:46:12,440 --> 00:46:18,279 Speaker 3: She's a fan best and absolutely fantastic. She's like, her 917 00:46:18,400 --> 00:46:21,319 Speaker 3: art is amazing, her storytelling is amazing. It makes me 918 00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:26,319 Speaker 3: jealous reading this stuff. Uh So, she's a Japanese artist. 919 00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,800 Speaker 3: She has a series called Demon Days, which is we've talked, 920 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 3: we've touched on like other manga and like inspiration like 921 00:46:32,480 --> 00:46:34,960 Speaker 3: you know, mangan and in American comic books. This is 922 00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,080 Speaker 3: a great, a great amalgamation of those two art style, 923 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:43,040 Speaker 3: beautiful watercolor paintings that are retelling classic Marvel heroes in 924 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,040 Speaker 3: the style of like a Japanese folklore. So their only 925 00:46:46,080 --> 00:46:48,440 Speaker 3: their demons, like there will be a you know, instead 926 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 3: of Thor being the god of thunder, he is like 927 00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:53,240 Speaker 3: a thunder demon. He carries like little little little storm 928 00:46:53,280 --> 00:46:55,840 Speaker 3: on her shoulder. Fantastic art. I think there's like it 929 00:46:55,960 --> 00:46:58,600 Speaker 3: gonna be six or seven books in the next one. 930 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:01,000 Speaker 4: Storm, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, not wait for that, Like 931 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:04,680 Speaker 4: they're so Peach is so good? How are you? Probably 932 00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:07,040 Speaker 4: if you haven't read her like Demon Days, you've definitely 933 00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:10,040 Speaker 4: seen her covers. She is like the comics cover artists 934 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:13,960 Speaker 4: right now. Like the way that she has inspired fans 935 00:47:14,040 --> 00:47:16,520 Speaker 4: to be caring about comics covers is just it's like 936 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:18,879 Speaker 4: Tom mcfalland and Greg Coppolo in the nineties, like, these 937 00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:22,160 Speaker 4: are the covers people want to have, Like, yes, she's incredible. 938 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:23,600 Speaker 3: Have you ever been in a coup Bok shop and 939 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,279 Speaker 3: you start to like, what the fuck is that? She's 940 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 3: probably Yeah, she's the one who drew that. He's the 941 00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,520 Speaker 3: one that made you start. But I got it. I've 942 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 3: never read this comic, but I've picked up because the 943 00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:31,919 Speaker 3: cover is so cool. 944 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,359 Speaker 4: One hundred percent she she is that. I'm sure when 945 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,200 Speaker 4: I worked in a shop, everything was like it was 946 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:39,160 Speaker 4: a Scotty Young cover and everyone would bring it, like 947 00:47:39,239 --> 00:47:40,880 Speaker 4: ninety percent of people would bring it back if it 948 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:42,320 Speaker 4: wasn't in their pulse and be like, why doesn't the 949 00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,840 Speaker 4: inside look like that? I am sure that Peach is 950 00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:46,759 Speaker 4: the curse of shop. I'm sure people pick up like 951 00:47:47,000 --> 00:47:48,440 Speaker 4: and then they're like, wait, why doesn't the inside? But 952 00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:50,279 Speaker 4: don't worry. Read Demon Days. 953 00:47:50,440 --> 00:47:54,239 Speaker 3: They'll give you everything. It's a great high recommend, fun 954 00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:57,440 Speaker 3: new from a from an artist writer that's killing the 955 00:47:57,440 --> 00:47:57,920 Speaker 3: game right now. 956 00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:02,000 Speaker 4: Demon Days Enough, Yeah, Rosie, So I'm going to go 957 00:48:02,560 --> 00:48:06,680 Speaker 4: with there's this Viz has been doing the because you 958 00:48:06,719 --> 00:48:08,520 Speaker 4: talked about Demon Days. It just inspired me. Vis has 959 00:48:08,520 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 4: been doing these unbelievable manga re releases. So they just 960 00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:12,520 Speaker 4: did a fist of the North Star. 961 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:13,399 Speaker 3: Oh, let's go. 962 00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 4: It's so good. The cover, it's like the version you 963 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:18,840 Speaker 4: always wanted. It's got like a it's like a matte, 964 00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:22,279 Speaker 4: blood splatters on the frog. And they also have been 965 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:27,000 Speaker 4: reprinting Lam and mazony Kuku by Ramiko Takahashi. Who I 966 00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,880 Speaker 4: feel who is an icon made in a Yasha ramahalf 967 00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,040 Speaker 4: all the manga and anime you loved as a teenager. 968 00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,120 Speaker 4: And I just had to bring that up because one, 969 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,880 Speaker 4: the copies are so stunning. If you are someone who 970 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:38,880 Speaker 4: loves a nice book on your shelf, you got to 971 00:48:38,920 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 4: go to those reprints. And two, when I read Demon Days, 972 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 4: I was like, this is like Remiko Takahashi doing Marvel 973 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,520 Speaker 4: Like it's that make sure of folklore, cute faces, like 974 00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:53,160 Speaker 4: iconic characters, designs. So those and the kind of continued 975 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 4: re releases that Vis are doing of these kind of 976 00:48:55,680 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 4: classic mangas is something I just can't get enough. 977 00:48:58,000 --> 00:48:59,680 Speaker 2: Of at the moment. That is great. 978 00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:04,000 Speaker 1: Gonna pick gosh, I'm gonna pick The Department of Truth 979 00:49:05,239 --> 00:49:11,040 Speaker 1: by James Timmyan and Martin Simmons. It is a I 980 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:13,960 Speaker 1: don't know how this is gonna turn out, like, maybe 981 00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: they don't stick the landing. But I'll just say this 982 00:49:16,080 --> 00:49:19,120 Speaker 1: as an ongoing book that is in the zeitgeist right 983 00:49:19,160 --> 00:49:23,399 Speaker 1: now because it is about conspiracies and what if conspiracies 984 00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,160 Speaker 1: are real and how do you deal with that? And 985 00:49:26,200 --> 00:49:32,160 Speaker 1: what is truth? It is a very paranoid and very 986 00:49:32,280 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 1: creative book. It's on image the art. I would describe 987 00:49:36,680 --> 00:49:42,880 Speaker 1: it as like Bill Sankowitz, like the in his like 988 00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:48,360 Speaker 1: most darkest tendencies. It is twisted and always interesting to 989 00:49:48,440 --> 00:49:48,960 Speaker 1: look at. 990 00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,160 Speaker 2: It can be a little naughty. 991 00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:55,920 Speaker 1: And confusing, but it feels like that's by design. And 992 00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,719 Speaker 1: again I hope they stick the landing. But it is 993 00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:03,200 Speaker 1: a crazy book currently an image something I really like. Okay, 994 00:50:03,200 --> 00:50:05,200 Speaker 1: one more for for both, for all of us, and 995 00:50:05,239 --> 00:50:05,880 Speaker 1: then we'll move on. 996 00:50:06,719 --> 00:50:08,720 Speaker 3: You know. I almost keep in the vein of indie comics. 997 00:50:08,719 --> 00:50:11,360 Speaker 3: There's a new comic series called The Antagonist by Godhead 998 00:50:11,360 --> 00:50:15,480 Speaker 3: Comics or a Black owned Black Runner Black Ran Studio 999 00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:18,479 Speaker 3: out of out of Atlanta. I believe. I think there's 1000 00:50:18,520 --> 00:50:22,319 Speaker 3: only three issues out for The Antagonists. There's another four 1001 00:50:22,360 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 3: that they're kickstarting at the moment, but that got on 1002 00:50:24,239 --> 00:50:26,400 Speaker 3: my radar just through Twitter. I found their kickstarter. I 1003 00:50:26,440 --> 00:50:29,479 Speaker 3: supported them, and it's a fun book. You know, It's 1004 00:50:29,640 --> 00:50:31,400 Speaker 3: just you can tell from the name that's from the 1005 00:50:31,440 --> 00:50:33,839 Speaker 3: point of view of what would be General Zodd, their 1006 00:50:33,920 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 3: version of like a black General Zod and like his wife, 1007 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,160 Speaker 3: and there's sort of a dismantling you know, a racist nation, 1008 00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 3: capitalist nation. And it's just been an interesting point of 1009 00:50:42,000 --> 00:50:43,800 Speaker 3: view and like what I think, you know, every I 1010 00:50:43,840 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 3: think we've seen a lot of like what if Superman 1011 00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:49,080 Speaker 3: was bad? Like what if the bad guys ran the country? 1012 00:50:49,120 --> 00:50:51,080 Speaker 3: And it's interesting seeing that just from a point of 1013 00:50:51,160 --> 00:50:54,600 Speaker 3: view from you know, the thing built on something that's 1014 00:50:54,640 --> 00:50:56,920 Speaker 3: I think a lookit more tangible and grounded, like you 1015 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:59,000 Speaker 3: soruld relate sort of like how you can relate to 1016 00:50:59,040 --> 00:51:01,040 Speaker 3: Killmonger a lot in the Black Panther movie. That can 1017 00:51:01,120 --> 00:51:03,680 Speaker 3: relate to these characters a lot in this series. I 1018 00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 3: highly recommend support you know, some some new upcoming artists 1019 00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,600 Speaker 3: and comic companies that are independent also you know, ran 1020 00:51:09,640 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 3: by some people of color. 1021 00:51:11,239 --> 00:51:14,120 Speaker 4: Yeahs, I'm going to go. So this is going back 1022 00:51:14,120 --> 00:51:17,280 Speaker 4: to a big two DC again, but it does include 1023 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:22,160 Speaker 4: some really really incredible cartoonists of So basically DC is 1024 00:51:22,320 --> 00:51:26,120 Speaker 4: bringing this huge event called Trial of the Amazons. You 1025 00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,919 Speaker 4: got Marie Javins as eic now an iconic comic book editor, 1026 00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 4: who is heading up this thing with Brittany Molsher, who's 1027 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:36,520 Speaker 4: another editor who's really behind bringing Diana and Nubia, Diana's sister, 1028 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,640 Speaker 4: to the forefront of DC Comics. Currently there's a newbier 1029 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:43,240 Speaker 4: in the Amazons series which is leading into this issue. 1030 00:51:43,239 --> 00:51:44,680 Speaker 4: One just came out, so it's a great time to 1031 00:51:44,760 --> 00:51:48,440 Speaker 4: jump on. It is an unbelievable team. Steph Williams, I 1032 00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:52,480 Speaker 4: love her, one of the funniest indie cartoonists around, just 1033 00:51:52,680 --> 00:51:57,440 Speaker 4: absolutely the best. Did a Marvel story about Monica Rambo, 1034 00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:03,040 Speaker 4: Like just absolute wonderful persona ayala, absolute g comic book superstar, 1035 00:52:03,640 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 4: the best. So they're the co writers and it's Alitha Martin, 1036 00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:09,720 Speaker 4: who is a Martinez who's one of the absolute most 1037 00:52:10,040 --> 00:52:14,719 Speaker 4: legit Black Big two artists, And it is just so badass. 1038 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:19,160 Speaker 4: It reintroduces us to the Amazon's Themisca introduces the idea 1039 00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,520 Speaker 4: of the Well of Souls, which is basically a way 1040 00:52:21,520 --> 00:52:24,320 Speaker 4: of opening up and blowing up who can be an Amazon? 1041 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:26,640 Speaker 4: So you have all different kinds of new people coming 1042 00:52:26,640 --> 00:52:28,800 Speaker 4: through those doors, and that is really the jumping on 1043 00:52:28,840 --> 00:52:31,680 Speaker 4: point to this bigger trial of the Amazon's event alongside 1044 00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:33,880 Speaker 4: the Wonder Woman book, which is written by Becky Clunan. 1045 00:52:34,040 --> 00:52:37,680 Speaker 4: Another absolute g love Becky Klunan so much, someone who 1046 00:52:37,680 --> 00:52:41,120 Speaker 4: really got me into comics, Big two and indie. So yeah, 1047 00:52:41,120 --> 00:52:42,920 Speaker 4: that is just something I think is really exciting, and 1048 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,680 Speaker 4: that's going to be the big DC event going into 1049 00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:47,399 Speaker 4: the kind of next few years. So it's a great 1050 00:52:47,400 --> 00:52:49,239 Speaker 4: time to jump on right now because just those first 1051 00:52:49,239 --> 00:52:51,560 Speaker 4: couple of issues are out there. You can go to 1052 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:53,560 Speaker 4: your comic shop, grab them, and you'll be in from 1053 00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:56,960 Speaker 4: the beginning of this really cool event that has really 1054 00:52:57,239 --> 00:52:59,719 Speaker 4: focused on inclusive new heroes. Nubia is a queen of 1055 00:52:59,719 --> 00:53:02,239 Speaker 4: them scart now Nubier is an all black creative team 1056 00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:04,719 Speaker 4: on that book. So that's just really cool to see 1057 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:05,200 Speaker 4: that happening. 1058 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:08,799 Speaker 1: Damn it Rosie making me spend money. 1059 00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: Okay, my final pick. 1060 00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:16,239 Speaker 1: My final pick is let's go to Image The Good 1061 00:53:16,239 --> 00:53:22,279 Speaker 1: Asian biopor Sick Pishit showt and Alex Tefaneggi. It is 1062 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:28,840 Speaker 1: a noir set in nineteen thirties Chinatown in San Francisco, 1063 00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:36,880 Speaker 1: and it follows the adventures of a Chinese detective having 1064 00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: to deal with, you know, solving mysteries and a racist 1065 00:53:41,200 --> 00:53:44,960 Speaker 1: society that doesn't really accept him and his culture. And 1066 00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:47,839 Speaker 1: it is It's great, it's ongoing right now. 1067 00:53:48,200 --> 00:53:48,480 Speaker 2: Get it. 1068 00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:52,440 Speaker 1: Image wonderful art, you know, like I just love Noir. 1069 00:53:52,600 --> 00:53:55,880 Speaker 1: I love that it really evokes a kind of like 1070 00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:57,360 Speaker 1: Batman Year one. 1071 00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that vibe origin of so many of 1072 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,640 Speaker 4: these characters. 1073 00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:06,360 Speaker 1: But really really exciting, you know, obviously an all Asian 1074 00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,359 Speaker 1: creative team. Check it out at Image Comics. Love it 1075 00:54:10,440 --> 00:54:13,680 Speaker 1: and I think it only started in when did it start? 1076 00:54:13,760 --> 00:54:17,640 Speaker 1: Like it is nice and far into it like May, 1077 00:54:18,239 --> 00:54:21,319 Speaker 1: like May or June of twenty twenty one, so not 1078 00:54:21,640 --> 00:54:23,840 Speaker 1: hard at all to jump right in. 1079 00:54:24,600 --> 00:54:26,279 Speaker 2: Up next, let's go to the end game. 1080 00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:37,279 Speaker 1: Okay, folks, we are in the end game now, and 1081 00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:40,480 Speaker 1: today we're playing some assembly required in which Rosie Zig 1082 00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: and I will be randomly assigned a mission and I 1083 00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:46,600 Speaker 1: have to assemble a character or a team of characters 1084 00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:52,680 Speaker 1: from any comic from any comic company to accomplish this mission. 1085 00:54:53,480 --> 00:54:57,040 Speaker 1: And we have selected the randomly assigned mission, and it 1086 00:54:57,120 --> 00:55:01,080 Speaker 1: is to compete in Mario Now this is a real 1087 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:06,360 Speaker 1: quote unquote real life Mario Kart, So like Mario Kart 1088 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,759 Speaker 1: with an actual vehicle, in the reality of the of 1089 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,280 Speaker 1: the adventure that we are taking. 1090 00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:13,080 Speaker 2: So let's see. 1091 00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:16,400 Speaker 1: Uh, let's let's keep it the same way we've been 1092 00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:21,719 Speaker 1: doing it. Zig Who will you select to compete in 1093 00:55:21,800 --> 00:55:28,040 Speaker 1: real life Mario Kart? What character from any comic book, franchise, company, whatever. 1094 00:55:28,520 --> 00:55:31,080 Speaker 3: My first draft picked will be a one Kate Bishop 1095 00:55:31,160 --> 00:55:34,279 Speaker 3: aka Hawkeye. I think if you're in a game of 1096 00:55:34,400 --> 00:55:36,680 Speaker 3: Mario Kart, think you give a Mario card, you need 1097 00:55:36,680 --> 00:55:39,200 Speaker 3: someone the accuracy, the dexterity. I think Michael Cake can 1098 00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:42,600 Speaker 3: hold it down. Get her any honestly, any turtleshell becomes 1099 00:55:42,600 --> 00:55:44,760 Speaker 3: a red turtle shell in the hands and exprest archer. 1100 00:55:45,120 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 3: So she's doing mad work with blue with green turtle shells. 1101 00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:49,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, we're in trouble. 1102 00:55:50,080 --> 00:55:51,600 Speaker 2: That's a good one, Rosie. 1103 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:59,160 Speaker 4: Okay, So I'm gonna go for ghost Rider. Obviously, I'm 1104 00:55:59,160 --> 00:56:02,040 Speaker 4: gonna go said I'm gonna go Johnny Blaze just just 1105 00:56:02,080 --> 00:56:05,920 Speaker 4: for fun. I mean, you know, anything he gets on. Really, 1106 00:56:06,000 --> 00:56:08,560 Speaker 4: let's be real, let's getting possessed by the devil. He's 1107 00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:12,000 Speaker 4: flying down there. There's flames. It's gonna be chaos if 1108 00:56:12,000 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 4: anyone gets in the way, just throw some chains at them. 1109 00:56:14,440 --> 00:56:17,359 Speaker 4: It's probably not gonna be the e for everyone Rate 1110 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,000 Speaker 4: and marire Car like Let's it's probably gonna be some 1111 00:56:20,040 --> 00:56:23,719 Speaker 4: toasted toads out there. But I think I think ghost 1112 00:56:23,800 --> 00:56:26,200 Speaker 4: Rider Johnny Blaze. That's that's the winner. 1113 00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 2: Wow, that's a good one. 1114 00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:31,560 Speaker 1: Okay, since I don't want to lose, I'm good to 1115 00:56:31,640 --> 00:56:36,279 Speaker 1: take a character who has never lost and has come 1116 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,720 Speaker 1: away with surprising, world shaking victories. 1117 00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:42,320 Speaker 4: Squirrel gol. 1118 00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:54,279 Speaker 1: Driving the cra van, Craven the Hunters airbrushed van, the 1119 00:56:54,360 --> 00:57:01,399 Speaker 1: unbeatable squirrel Girl. Uh so driving Craven's van and listen, 1120 00:57:01,440 --> 00:57:05,560 Speaker 1: we gotta throw shells out the back, so helping squirrel 1121 00:57:05,600 --> 00:57:06,720 Speaker 1: girl is this cheating? 1122 00:57:06,960 --> 00:57:07,040 Speaker 4: Like? 1123 00:57:07,120 --> 00:57:12,359 Speaker 1: Can Howard the duck be in the back to throw 1124 00:57:12,680 --> 00:57:15,080 Speaker 1: shells and stuff out the back? So it is squirrel 1125 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:18,720 Speaker 1: Girl in Craven, the Hunters van, the cra Van. 1126 00:57:19,880 --> 00:57:21,320 Speaker 4: I mean she's unbeatable. 1127 00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I didn't think. I didn't I didn't plan 1128 00:57:25,040 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 3: that far ahead. I didn't think about that monkey in. 1129 00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,800 Speaker 1: Uh, this has been super fun. Folks, What do you 1130 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:35,680 Speaker 1: think who would you select as a comic book character 1131 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:38,560 Speaker 1: from any comic book series, any comic book company to 1132 00:57:38,640 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: compete in Mariya Kart let us know. Send us your 1133 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,440 Speaker 1: answers at hashtag XRVN game. That's XRVN game, and shout 1134 00:57:45,480 --> 00:57:49,880 Speaker 1: out to at Marcus mendes One for his end game 1135 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:53,360 Speaker 1: of top five fictional Billionaires. Continue to send us those, 1136 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,120 Speaker 1: Rosie zig This has been fantastic and I'll see. 1137 00:57:56,960 --> 00:57:58,480 Speaker 2: You out on the streets. 1138 00:58:01,400 --> 00:58:04,480 Speaker 1: Big thank you to Rosie and Cody Zigler for joining 1139 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: us on another episode of X ray Vision. Next Wednesday, 1140 00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:09,960 Speaker 1: we'll be covering Marvels Eternals, So if you want to 1141 00:58:10,040 --> 00:58:12,200 Speaker 1: learn more about what we explore in each episode, check 1142 00:58:12,200 --> 00:58:14,240 Speaker 1: out our listener's guide in the show notes or on 1143 00:58:14,280 --> 00:58:17,800 Speaker 1: our website. Also, five star ratings. Please give us the 1144 00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: five star ratings. We desperately desire them, We want them 1145 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:24,040 Speaker 1: from you. Please give them to us. X ray Vision 1146 00:58:24,080 --> 00:58:26,160 Speaker 1: is a Crooked Media production. The show is produced by 1147 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:29,120 Speaker 1: Chris Lord and Saul Rubin. It is executive produced by 1148 00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,880 Speaker 1: myself and Sandy Garard. 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