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Speaker 1: because this world would be a whole lot better. But

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Speaker 1: the fact is, society fails it. We do not hold

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Speaker 1: our juveniles accountable. We minimize their actions. School districts across

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Speaker 1: this state and across this nation need to quit minimizing

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Speaker 1: the actions of their students. Hold them accountable. That's where

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Speaker 1: the failure is. That was Marion County Sheriff Billy Woods,

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Speaker 1: and it's star refreshing to hear someone a leader like

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Speaker 1: him to speak the truth, to give it straight to

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Speaker 1: murder of three teens in Marion County and what's so

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Speaker 1: disheartening and sad about it is they were also murdered

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Speaker 1: Marin County Sheriff Billy Woods joins me in the Truth

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Speaker 1: of Lisa Booth and he's next well, Sheriff. It's so

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Speaker 1: good to have you on the show. Obviously, like many people,

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Speaker 1: I saw your response to the media that you know

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Speaker 1: It's most of the time I know what they're thinking.

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Speaker 1: I don't you know. They don't want to offend people.

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Speaker 1: But in order to be a true leader, you got

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Speaker 1: it's damning. It hurts. It hurts us as a society

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Speaker 1: But inevitably there's always these calls to blame guns, We

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