WEBVTT - Constricted w/ Zak Orth

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<v Speaker 1>Of the law and order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable.

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<v Speaker 2>We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the

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<v Speaker 2>vicious felonies. These episodes are based on. These are our stories, done.

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<v Speaker 3>Done, Hello, and welcome to That's Messed Up and SVU Podcast.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host Kara Klank and I'm Li's a Tragger

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<v Speaker 2>and we talk SVU crimes, celeb guests and it's a

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<v Speaker 2>jam packed episode week after a week.

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<v Speaker 1>Honestly, yeah truly.

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<v Speaker 4>And you did just take a sip of something, and

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<v Speaker 4>I know it's not a corona, but for a second,

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<v Speaker 4>I was like, damn, she's just drinking a corona.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a high life. Oh nice. I literally thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was like a fancy soda. I thought it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a fancy soda. No.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, I've had a busy day and so I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't have time to go down and get a second

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<v Speaker 2>iced coffee or Arnold Palmer and there was a little

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<v Speaker 2>baby dye oft coke in the fridge. But then I

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<v Speaker 2>saw the high life and I went, my throat hurts.

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<v Speaker 2>Why not it's spring cause I'm gonna smoke a joint

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<v Speaker 2>right now too. So it's like I need something to

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<v Speaker 2>smooth smooth the cords. But I'm flying tomorrow for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time in like five weeks, and I'm kind of

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<v Speaker 2>so stressed out.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm bringing the trunk, I don't know, the trunk, like

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<v Speaker 1>the big that big thing. Oh yeah, because I want

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<v Speaker 1>to swim.

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<v Speaker 2>I have so many shows I'm taping, Like there's just

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<v Speaker 2>like so much stuff and what am I trying to prove?

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<v Speaker 1>What am I trying to prove by not?

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<v Speaker 4>You know, every time I feel like I'm overpacked for

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<v Speaker 4>a trip, I just think about what the housewives bring

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<v Speaker 4>on a three day trip to like Puerto Rico, and

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<v Speaker 4>I'm like, I'm okay, it's okay for me to take

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<v Speaker 4>like one massive suitcase and like a small You're just

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<v Speaker 4>punishing yourself.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's what does suck, is like you can can't

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<v Speaker 2>be late to the airport because then they won't take

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<v Speaker 2>your back.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is what's hard. That's the one hard thing.

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<v Speaker 2>You can't, you know, because you get all the clears

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<v Speaker 2>and the things, and you're excited, but you gotta go.

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<v Speaker 1>Or you gotta get there for the bag drop or

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<v Speaker 1>they don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they don't. They're really annoying with that. They don't

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<v Speaker 4>fuck around the bag drop.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just think I have to bring everything, like unfortunately,

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<v Speaker 2>that's what this trip is. I have like seven things

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<v Speaker 2>every single day. Damn that's that.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Well I have to jam pack the LA because I

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<v Speaker 2>won't be back, so I just try to jam pack.

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<v Speaker 1>It's your last time coming to LA ever, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>hopefully no, no, no, of course not of course not.

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<v Speaker 2>But we we okay, So we haven't talked a lot

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<v Speaker 2>about a lot. We didn't talk about Meg the Stallion,

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<v Speaker 2>we didn't talk about I guess we've talked about summerhouse.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Wasn't there something where oh Melissa McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>But we don't want either.

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<v Speaker 4>I know at that time I was going to be

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<v Speaker 4>very old for you guys, but you know, we're always

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<v Speaker 4>in the time machine because of travels and end life.

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<v Speaker 4>But like this, if you don't watch current episodes, which

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<v Speaker 4>I think many of you don't, you still probably saw

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<v Speaker 4>on social media that Melissa McCarthy like went to the

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<v Speaker 4>SVU set wearing an old lady prosthetic mask so that

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<v Speaker 4>she could surprise Marushka Hargate. And then she was in

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<v Speaker 4>an episode playing I think a wrestler or like a

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<v Speaker 4>wrestling personality type, person who hits aggressively on rush Carte.

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<v Speaker 4>And I haven't watched it yet because I'm behind on

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<v Speaker 4>the current season and you know, I'm like.

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<v Speaker 1>I got to watch in order, but like what it's

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<v Speaker 1>given Kathy Griffin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but it's also like it's season twenty seven and

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<v Speaker 2>she's such a big star. It's it's awesting. But we've

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<v Speaker 2>been saying this since the beginning. We are scholars. At

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<v Speaker 2>the end of the day, we are scholars. And the

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<v Speaker 2>first two episodes we're like, it's going back, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>back to the special guest star format with regular people,

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<v Speaker 2>and we I feel like I said that before, even

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<v Speaker 2>Jamia McGirk, like, but you could tell it was going

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<v Speaker 2>in that direction and we were correct. We were correct,

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<v Speaker 2>and it is and we're going to continue. And for

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<v Speaker 2>the love of God, can I put myself on tape?

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<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, I mean I can't wait to see it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean people have been meming it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Amelia McCarthy's doing a movie with Connor's story,

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<v Speaker 2>shooting May in June.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, pretty exciting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, cool choices a comedy or it says thriller, it

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<v Speaker 2>says like crime thriller. So I'm excited he's doing a

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<v Speaker 2>comedy called Peak, Like, I mean, they're making really amazing choices,

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<v Speaker 2>working with so many women, Like I'm obsessed with them.

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<v Speaker 4>It's funny because Martin, you are wait what hold on

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<v Speaker 4>say that again? You're Melissa McCarthy is just so funny.

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<v Speaker 4>I have seen her be great in Drum. I really

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<v Speaker 4>liked her in that Please for of Me? Or is

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<v Speaker 4>that what it's called?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but it's it's yeah, will you please forgive me?

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<v Speaker 1>But what a fucking terrible name.

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<v Speaker 2>But but like an identity thief, like it's a you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a broad comedy whatever. But like you do feel for

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<v Speaker 2>her character and stuff, like I think she does. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>she's like an orphan. But like I think, I think

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<v Speaker 2>even in comedy she she grounds it in real emotion.

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<v Speaker 1>She totally does. She's just so funny all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>She could be funny in this because Spy was I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, we'll see he's funny too. I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>could be a comedic crime thriller. I mean he just

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<v Speaker 2>says crime thriller because.

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<v Speaker 4>It's like even Kathy Griffin when she's in SVU, she's

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<v Speaker 4>got like funny zingers, but they're kind of like her characters,

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<v Speaker 4>like kind of serious, like about lesbianism and protecting lesbians.

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<v Speaker 2>Say, some people are just funny doing everything because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, because when I saw Titus Syndronicus, like there

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<v Speaker 2>were funny moments and there was also you know, hands

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<v Speaker 2>cut off so you could really do at all.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think, yeah, I don't. I'm very interested to

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<v Speaker 1>see her in like a thriller. I know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, you know I'm already harassing my

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<v Speaker 2>team yet me in there, I'm like so desperate for well,

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<v Speaker 2>I just yeah, it's like fun to work, so of

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<v Speaker 2>course I want more of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Wait, but today, so I misread the fucking timer.

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<v Speaker 2>But the official heated rivalry merch came out today and

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<v Speaker 2>I thought it was had twelve hours, but it was

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<v Speaker 2>twelve minutes. So by the time I got to it,

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<v Speaker 2>the fucking Montreal Metro sweatshirt was sold out in like

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<v Speaker 2>seven minutes.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh no, but I.

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<v Speaker 2>Got the New York Admirals one, which is great. I

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<v Speaker 2>live in New York and like, so that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>And then my friend Gail, who I messaged with NonStop,

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<v Speaker 2>like and this is a spoiler to those who don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>But the Metro's treat Shane like shit when he comes

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<v Speaker 2>out and like is gay. And so my friends like,

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<v Speaker 2>fuck the Metros. We're not wearing any Metros merch. I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>you're so right, like we can back in the books.

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<v Speaker 2>That happens in the books, Like in the books eventually,

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, they're like everyone's gonna know they're gay guys,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, grow up and they're like awful and homophobic

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<v Speaker 2>and like don't treat Shane right. And so then I

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<v Speaker 2>was like, Wow, my friend really knew how to make

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<v Speaker 2>me feel better. I go, yeah, I'm not supporting that

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<v Speaker 2>team boring a Metro sweat, No, I would get it

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<v Speaker 2>if they re released it. But because he actually wears

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<v Speaker 2>in the show, the other ones are just replicup. They

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<v Speaker 2>don't wear them, like it's fun to have stuff that's

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<v Speaker 2>used in the show. But I did get the admirals one.

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<v Speaker 2>Good job congrats.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>While I was watching my because I my homework is,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching a Russian show about sex workers actually right now,

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<v Speaker 2>oh scripted, scripted. Yeah, they're trying to get out of

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<v Speaker 2>the sex work business and open a gym, but they

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<v Speaker 2>have to pay their pimp out and they're women and

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<v Speaker 2>it's a small town and everyone's against them, and like

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<v Speaker 2>there's four of them and one of them as a

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<v Speaker 2>kid who likes.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, And how is it watching the TV show in Russian?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you get everything? Well? That's why. Then I have

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<v Speaker 1>my lessons with my teacher.

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<v Speaker 2>So then I watch the show and then I have

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<v Speaker 2>all the questions and word and everything, and then we

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<v Speaker 2>go over.

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<v Speaker 1>What I watched. Amazing, I go over all.

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<v Speaker 2>This stuff, and then we offshoot if things come up,

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<v Speaker 2>and we talk about regular life so I can like

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<v Speaker 2>and then she makes lists of words for me that

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<v Speaker 2>we discussed from everything and sentences and then I go

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<v Speaker 2>print those out and then I write them over and

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<v Speaker 2>over again and make flash cards, and then I try

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<v Speaker 2>to read and write.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what I've been up to. And you're writing

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<v Speaker 1>in the you're writing in like the cyrillic and everything. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean it looks like shit.

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<v Speaker 2>And then I've made the background of my phone the alphabet,

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<v Speaker 2>so then when I'm like struggling because it's confusing to me,

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<v Speaker 2>I can just look at it right on my course.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a different alpha about it. It's terrible.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the H is the N, so like

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<v Speaker 2>the P is the R. It's like shit like that

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<v Speaker 2>the R is a I.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's so cool. I mean TV's you know, you

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<v Speaker 1>always say that you fucking like learn English from Baywatch,

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<v Speaker 1>right or no? Like yeah, and like and and I

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<v Speaker 1>learned so much Italian from watching Sex and the City

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<v Speaker 1>dubbed because I knew Sex and the City like by heart.

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<v Speaker 1>And I would like like watch it with the dictionary. It.

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<v Speaker 4>TV's such a good tool for like language, that's really

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<v Speaker 4>good that you're will.

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<v Speaker 1>Still do it.

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<v Speaker 2>I meet people still constantly that, like, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 2>fun to it's fun to learn the show they.

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<v Speaker 1>Watched to learn English.

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<v Speaker 2>And I guess Friends is like a big one for

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<v Speaker 2>people worldwide internationally. My friend was just telling me she

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<v Speaker 2>moved to the States when she was like six. She

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<v Speaker 2>learned from Full House. Wow, so she's a clean cut kid.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a clean cut kid. I was like a slutty

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<v Speaker 2>la girl for lifeguards.

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<v Speaker 4>You're like that bathing suit's a little low cut, could

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<v Speaker 4>see it look could use a little more thigh.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh.

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<v Speaker 4>She learned how to say like, she learned how to

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<v Speaker 4>say like listended like first thing with her like first

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<v Speaker 4>words in English.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and then I told her.

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<v Speaker 2>I need more like upbeat stuff because the Russian movie

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<v Speaker 2>I saw in the theaters just.

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<v Speaker 1>Depress the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I can the two prosecutors, but then I watched

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<v Speaker 2>interviews with that actor and stuff like whatever. So that's

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<v Speaker 2>what we do, so I understand some of it, and

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<v Speaker 2>then everything I don't understand, or I like sayings or

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<v Speaker 2>that's what we discuss. And then sometimes like the words

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<v Speaker 2>they use. She's like, that's like a fucked up way

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<v Speaker 2>to speak, like I wouldn't disrespect sex workers, like there

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<v Speaker 2>was a word, and she's like, well, that's if you're

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<v Speaker 2>being rude.

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<v Speaker 1>That's like calling someone like a dumb slut. You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with like learning words in other cultures and

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<v Speaker 2>languages where it's like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, you don't say that, like you don't.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I would hear people say stuff in Italian and

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<v Speaker 4>I'd be like, so what does that mean. They'd be like,

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<v Speaker 4>you don't say that, like don't and I'd be like,

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<v Speaker 4>oh okay, I'd be like, well, what's that like in English?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean like the C word, like like people like

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<v Speaker 4>but now people say count all the time, Like I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know, there's not as many. I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 4>all these things that are like in other languages that

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<v Speaker 4>I feel like, your mom is a fucking pig slut,

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<v Speaker 4>and you just wouldn't say that in English really ever,

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<v Speaker 4>Like you know what I mean, there's no like phrase

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<v Speaker 4>that is that.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm kind of like it's hard to understand, Like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, what do you think is somebody there's

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<v Speaker 2>like whoa, you don't say that, Like I don't know yet,

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<v Speaker 2>I have no idea, because I also like I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it used to be kunt, but like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>you mean in English?

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<v Speaker 1>Say I mean in Russia in English? English? No, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>in English, she'll get shocked about cunt.

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<v Speaker 2>It really depends because this was twenty years ago. I

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<v Speaker 2>was younger but like maybe a little less. But when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a slam receptionist. There's a girl who dumped

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<v Speaker 2>her boyfriend because he called.

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<v Speaker 1>Her a bitch, and I'm like, oh, which is cool,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I'm glad she did that, but like I don't

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<v Speaker 1>so then I don't know. I don't know if someone

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<v Speaker 1>who's like you're being a bit. It's kind of like that.

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<v Speaker 2>Indiana Pacers couple when she's like, what the fuck are

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<v Speaker 2>you talking about? And a lot of people were like, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like that's way, and it's like, no, that's like normal,

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<v Speaker 2>like people normally stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you not know? Did we not talk about these?

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<v Speaker 6>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't talk about this okay.

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<v Speaker 2>So, like a few weeks ago, there was just like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, the not the boomer cam. What is it

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<v Speaker 2>called this JumboTron JumboTron, I don't know cam it only

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<v Speaker 2>gets boomers being like oh trump, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I forgot the word.

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<v Speaker 2>So so it's this couple in their court side and

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<v Speaker 2>she's just like so cute, and he's just babbling and

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<v Speaker 2>babbling and you don't know what he's babbling about, but

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<v Speaker 2>you just see her and it's obvious what she's saying.

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<v Speaker 1>And she goes, she goes, that's you. What the fuck

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<v Speaker 1>are you talking about?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, now that you're describing it, I think this meme

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<v Speaker 2>like flew past my feed, like I'm picturing the couple.

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<v Speaker 2>But they were just perfect, and then they did interviews

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<v Speaker 2>together and he's like, get yourself a perfect midwestern girl,

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<v Speaker 2>like I love her. But like people were like pissed,

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<v Speaker 2>and she's like, we like each other and says, no,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk like I don't know. Yeah, everyone is so different.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what someone would say to me. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, like I think someone I think like I

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<v Speaker 2>think calling someone like an animal, I think is oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>that's like like the pig slut. I think, like, if

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<v Speaker 2>you're a pig, you're a dog. Like, I think that's

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<v Speaker 2>kind of fucked. But no kink shaming. But yeah, I

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<v Speaker 2>think that's like kind of fucked. I think that would

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<v Speaker 2>be rude if I was on stage and went, you

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<v Speaker 2>fucking pig, like I think.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that would be an issue. Only out of

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<v Speaker 1>the mouth of our president. Is it accepted by society?

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot.

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<v Speaker 2>I love how there was a shooting and all the

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<v Speaker 2>whole country is like, well, it clearly wasn't real. So yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and we've moved like no one believes that. We're fine

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 4>We're in the Boy Who Cried Wolf territory. Wal, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 4>show me an open wound.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. He's like chilling sand.

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<v Speaker 2>But I also love the point that people said the

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<v Speaker 2>first or the second whatever, the famous one was where

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<v Speaker 2>It's like if that motherfucker was shot, he wouldn't have

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<v Speaker 2>stopped talking about it, like y and where.

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<v Speaker 4>Is his ear? That's where they're all. They're all like

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<v Speaker 4>ears don't grow back?

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<v Speaker 1>What the fuck? Like they're all all there. I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think it's changing in the way anyone is

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<v Speaker 4>actually doing anything, but they're coming around a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>Well. And you know why I have this beer, Cara.

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<v Speaker 2>I also like to say, is because last night, while

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<v Speaker 2>I was watching Twilight for our Patreon I bought I

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<v Speaker 2>got some shrimp and schiladas and picked up a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of beers at the bodega.

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<v Speaker 1>Why sorry, somebody came and I don't did you know that? Ris?

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<v Speaker 3>No?

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<v Speaker 2>But the face you made was when I said enchiladas

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<v Speaker 2>and I was like, what the fuck are you trying?

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<v Speaker 1>Like what? Sorry? I was like, no one ever face

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<v Speaker 1>times me.

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<v Speaker 4>And it was also a person not no one ever

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<v Speaker 4>faces me, but it was a person I don't know

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<v Speaker 4>face timing me, and I was like what sorry? And

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<v Speaker 4>I'm also on airplane. How come you can FaceTime me

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<v Speaker 4>on airplane?

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's I message I I'm not focused now, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>on focused now.

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<v Speaker 4>I would never make a face about an enchilada. I

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<v Speaker 4>love it so.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait oh I'll shout it out, piqitos, thank you for

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<v Speaker 2>giving me a taste of la like I it's like

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<v Speaker 2>la perfect Mexican style, like what I love at Amigos

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<v Speaker 2>and Pasadena.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like so good and it's fifteen.

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<v Speaker 2>I spent fifteen dollars on rice, beans, shrimp and shiladas.

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<v Speaker 2>Ooh okay, in this economy, that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Go get it again. That is nothing we talk about

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<v Speaker 1>in our intros is sponsored. This is just shit. We

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<v Speaker 1>like no, but we were talking about languait language talking yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>like like rude things, like the rudest things you can say.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, just I was just I was just gonna say

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<v Speaker 2>language is crazy. So then I learned, like work, I

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<v Speaker 2>know words and then I'll say a word and she goes,

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<v Speaker 2>that's mean, that's not angry, you know, like shit like

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<v Speaker 2>that or like you wouldn't say like there's just so

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<v Speaker 2>many details and because I am fluent in a certain sense,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like it's so not it's really like been

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<v Speaker 2>really interesting or like you know we think about that.

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<v Speaker 2>There's just we're like some words of mean tons of things.

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<v Speaker 2>Or I was like, I hope you have a good time.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, we would never say that in Russian, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Or clearly or that.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, no, clear that clearly in this context is

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<v Speaker 2>this not this?

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<v Speaker 1>And you're like what the fuck?

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<v Speaker 2>And I still fuck up walking and driving like I'll

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<v Speaker 2>be like oh, I like and she's like you did

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<v Speaker 2>not walk to the airport, and I'm like fuck.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like these little things and it is so interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>It's interesting, And do you think if you made those

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<v Speaker 2>mistakes talking to your parents?

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<v Speaker 1>Your parents just kind of like let it go. Of course,

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<v Speaker 1>of course.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't give a fuck, and like they've also been

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<v Speaker 2>in America, so they know English words, so I could

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<v Speaker 2>do whatever. But I kind of confronted them because it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I say, padilla Nick, that's like duvet cover, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's put to Nick, and so I was like, what

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<v Speaker 2>the fuck?

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<v Speaker 1>Why didn't you ever tell me that it was that?

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<v Speaker 1>But why would they care?

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<v Speaker 2>And then my mom also, well she makes everything about

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<v Speaker 2>her and she's a victim, and so she's like we're

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<v Speaker 2>just we're illiterate.

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<v Speaker 1>We're back at Russian.

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<v Speaker 2>I go, you're not bad at Russian, Like you're eighty

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<v Speaker 2>you're just like disconnected from the culture.

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<v Speaker 1>But she's like, we didn't do it right.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're just not as smart, like we're not

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<v Speaker 2>the and it's so she does that, so like I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>They left a long time ago too, you know it's

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<v Speaker 1>amazing and you know, yeah, like they've been here, so yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>they just or like I told you, like the word

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<v Speaker 1>for like I smell or like I smell something is different.

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<v Speaker 2>But then I talked to this Russian comic and she's

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<v Speaker 2>like that teacher's being like too particular. I'm like, well,

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<v Speaker 2>that is why I'm paying her. Yeah, at the end

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<v Speaker 2>of the day, that is the goal. Like yeah, it's yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Language is I mean, it's fascinating. I really like love it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like I was at a dinner one time with all

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<v Speaker 4>these people in Italy and this guy that I was

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<v Speaker 4>like hooking up with, he thought he thought he was

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<v Speaker 4>so cool, and he just told me he said something

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<v Speaker 4>like he said, that color that you're wearing goes portas

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<v Speaker 4>Viga and I go what And I didn't know what

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<v Speaker 4>that meant because it's this like idiomatic expression that basically

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<v Speaker 4>means the color you're wearing it like a Jinx color,

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<v Speaker 4>like it's a it's like a bad luck color. It

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<v Speaker 4>was like magenta or something. I was wearing some you know,

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<v Speaker 4>and I'm like at a dinner. I like, I'm trying

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<v Speaker 4>to look cute. I'm hopefully gonna hook up with this

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<v Speaker 4>guy later. And he's like, the color you're wearing is

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<v Speaker 4>But I don't understand what he's talking about, because like,

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<v Speaker 4>I don't have bad luck color. So I was like,

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<v Speaker 4>what are you? And then I just got pissed and

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<v Speaker 4>was just like fuck you because I thought he was

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<v Speaker 4>saying it was like an ugly color. And he was like, no, no,

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<v Speaker 4>it's a bad luck color. But he's only telling me

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<v Speaker 4>an Italian. I was like, newer, I didn't. My language

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't as good.

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<v Speaker 1>Daddy, you know that would penetrate me.

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<v Speaker 2>I knew I would know exactly and I would take

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<v Speaker 2>I would, I would, I would rectify remedy because you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in my family, we don't do yellow.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, yes, so we do have some bad luck. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like a purply I think it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a purply like.

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<v Speaker 2>Magenta type color. Can't wear, not supposed to wear it.

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<v Speaker 2>But also this is just a personal lesson, but I'll

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<v Speaker 2>talk about it. But like, you know, if I spent

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<v Speaker 2>five weeks in New York, and I've been really at

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<v Speaker 2>him about not over like taking like living like a

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<v Speaker 2>regular girl. So like I've had like two three nights

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<v Speaker 2>off of stand up a week or maybe just one show.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're always pot we're always doing something like

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<v Speaker 2>an audition here there, but I've been really strict about it.

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<v Speaker 2>And then of course my younger self starts feeling guilt

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<v Speaker 2>of like why'd you take two days off? And then

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<v Speaker 2>yesterday I did two new joke nights, Like I did

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<v Speaker 2>a new joke night at bar night and I had

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<v Speaker 2>like five new jokes.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh, yeah, like.

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<v Speaker 2>This idea of like running ragged always always, or like

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<v Speaker 2>what work is or isn't is like so skewed in

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<v Speaker 2>our brains because I was feeling guilty. And then actually

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<v Speaker 2>that time away was awesome and I got so many

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<v Speaker 2>compliments and they were all jokes I did for the

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<v Speaker 2>first time, and I was like, oh my god, cool.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest is important.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, So I just liked having a not physical, like

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<v Speaker 2>a tangible evidence that my time reading wasn't wasted, or

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<v Speaker 2>like my time staying it or whatever was not wasted.

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<v Speaker 2>Since now I have like four or five new jokes

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<v Speaker 2>I'm excited about. Yeah, and all that's not.

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<v Speaker 4>Daying is where you're coming is the life you're living

0:20:08.920 --> 0:20:10.040
<v Speaker 4>to come up with jokes about.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, it's just like the guilt always is.

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<v Speaker 2>I just always feel like I'm not working hard enough

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<v Speaker 2>constantly all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's nice.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it was just a nice It was nice to

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<v Speaker 2>have this moment of like, no, trust your instincts.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you give yourself some grace doing everything right? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And that I'm lucky enough to take time away. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because yeah whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and we're done.

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<v Speaker 3>Well.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel so Yeah, I know that you can bring

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<v Speaker 2>something up to and I'm glad to see.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm going to see Doubleware's Prada tomorrow night, tomorrow night,

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<v Speaker 4>opening night.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so excited, dude.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think I'm going to be able to watch

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<v Speaker 2>it until like I won't be able to watch it

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<v Speaker 2>till week two.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, arch Unford, it'll still be out, I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah'll be But are the purse popcorn buckets still

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<v Speaker 2>going to be in stock? Oh that's the question, that

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<v Speaker 2>is the question. Well, I also don't like being around people,

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<v Speaker 2>so I'm fine I'm gonna go alone at like eleven

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<v Speaker 2>thirty am on a Tuesday.

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<v Speaker 4>When you buy the seats on some AMC seats, like

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<v Speaker 4>when the seat is taken, it turns into a little

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<v Speaker 4>red high heel on the app.

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<v Speaker 2>Dude, God, I don't want to say this, but I

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<v Speaker 2>love a great marketing campaign.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>I was just talking to my friend who has like

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<v Speaker 4>a she we have we have kids the same age, Rosie,

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<v Speaker 4>but then she has an older daughter who's like nineteen,

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<v Speaker 4>and she was saying kind of like your niece's experience

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<v Speaker 4>with the original Double Wars Brada.

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<v Speaker 1>Like she was like, my daughter didn't like it. I go, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I go. Some kids are like some of the gen

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<v Speaker 1>zs are like this doesn't feel good and it's it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>shut up, it's great. Yeah it's but it doesn't.

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<v Speaker 4>It's not actually unrelated to what you were just talking about.

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<v Speaker 4>Like you train yourself to think that you're not that

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<v Speaker 4>you have to be working, working, working, I like always

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<v Speaker 4>trade myself to think that, like, yeah, your boss is

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<v Speaker 4>supposed to treat you like a piece of shit, like

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<v Speaker 4>you're supposed to do that.

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<v Speaker 1>That's how you get better, That's how you get good.

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<v Speaker 1>You have to go through all these hard.

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<v Speaker 4>Knock and it's like it's actually like okay for your

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<v Speaker 4>boss to treat you like a human being and like

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<v Speaker 4>being nice girl.

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<v Speaker 2>I yeah, that's why it took such a long pause.

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<v Speaker 2>We I mean, I'm glad I wasn't in an elder time,

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<v Speaker 2>but like we did grow up in a really toxic time.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, I'm glad that the youth today are disturbed

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<v Speaker 2>by the things that we valued.

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<v Speaker 1>That is good.

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<v Speaker 4>I already think I don't eat anything all day, and

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<v Speaker 4>then when I feel like I'm about to pass out,

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<v Speaker 4>I eat.

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<v Speaker 1>A cube of cheese.

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<v Speaker 4>I like think about that line all the time. We

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<v Speaker 4>just put that out in a movie and.

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<v Speaker 1>We're like, that's the way to lose weight. I know.

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<v Speaker 1>But like I just missed cheese cubes.

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<v Speaker 2>They don't they don't sell them as pot They're not

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<v Speaker 2>as popular as shape.

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<v Speaker 1>Those craft cheese cubes are so fucking good. They were

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<v Speaker 1>better than the other cheese like I loved. They make

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<v Speaker 1>you do work. You gotta buy your own brick and

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<v Speaker 1>cut your own cubes. And you know I'm not doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not washing a night. I cut myself cheese cubes

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<v Speaker 1>last night.

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<v Speaker 4>Maybe while I was watching Twilight.

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<v Speaker 1>I was eating little cheese cubes on crackers and.

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<v Speaker 2>I was having chiladas. Honey, I was, I mean, I

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<v Speaker 2>can't wait. I mean I loved Twilight.

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<v Speaker 1>You loved it? Oh my.

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<v Speaker 2>I started the second one. I just had to go

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<v Speaker 2>read because you know, I'm in a new set of

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<v Speaker 2>Hockey Gay. I found a new series of Hockey Gay.

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<v Speaker 4>So actually we didn't mean for this to turn into

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<v Speaker 4>an ad for our Patreon, but this coming Thursday, our

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<v Speaker 4>episode is Lisa and I breaking our Twilight, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>virginity and watching the movie for the first time.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, maybe I won't have to say Okay, I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 2>change it from my levet to like, I get why

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<v Speaker 2>it had the impact it did. Like I went back

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<v Speaker 2>from that time and I feel that when they were

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<v Speaker 2>trying on prom dresses, Like to me, I was like, no,

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<v Speaker 2>wonder this hit for people and it meant a lot,

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<v Speaker 2>like it just made sense to me.

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<v Speaker 1>For more for more.

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<v Speaker 4>Discos Patreon dot com slash that's messed up.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I'm a little corny, you know, Yeah, no, I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm fascinating.

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<v Speaker 4>As I was watching it, I was thinking, what is

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<v Speaker 4>Lisa going to think about this? And I really didn't know,

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<v Speaker 4>but I have thoughts. You can hear them on our Patreon. Also,

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<v Speaker 4>that's messed Up live dot com.

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<v Speaker 2>You can go to that has all the links to

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<v Speaker 2>Lisa's tour dates, merch promo codes, all the infos there.

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<v Speaker 1>And let's get start arted.

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<v Speaker 3>We have.

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<v Speaker 1>A great show. It's a good episode.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, we're doing constricted love that.

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<v Speaker 1>Love a b Constrictor.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what's the isn't there like a kid's book the

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<v Speaker 2>Boa Constrictor and it ate the whole class and then

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<v Speaker 2>all their little body shapes are in the Boa Constrictor?

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<v Speaker 1>Is that? Is that a memory for you guys? The

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<v Speaker 1>day Jimmy's Boa ate the wash, No, Jimmy's Boa, there's

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<v Speaker 1>like a whole Jimmy's Boa thing.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been eaten by a Boa constrictor. I think a

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<v Speaker 2>shell Silverstein poem. It's shell silver Stein. It's shell Boa

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<v Speaker 2>constrictor sung by shell silver Steam. I'm being my bowl constrictor,

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<v Speaker 2>a boat construct. I'm being by a boa constrictor. Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>what do you know? It's nibbling my toe. Oh gee,

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<v Speaker 2>it's up to my knee. Yeah cool, yeah, that's familiar. Okay, fun, fun, fun, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>but we're here no Boa constrictors. But so basically, a

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<v Speaker 2>mom's like, Hannah, you didn't eat your bacon, and the

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<v Speaker 2>teenagers like, ugh, mom, I'm a pescatarian.

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<v Speaker 1>I told you.

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<v Speaker 2>So the cell phone keeps dinging dinging, dinging, dinging, and

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<v Speaker 2>the mom's like, dude, your computer keeps dinging. What's going on?

0:26:20.240 --> 0:26:23.200
<v Speaker 2>The chiming just will not stop. So the mom looks

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<v Speaker 2>onto the laptop. That's not like what she sees. It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like a fully appropriate chat. So now we have

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<v Speaker 2>a boy on the opposite end of the texting and

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<v Speaker 2>he's pumped, and the dad's like that better be a girl,

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<v Speaker 2>not a sports book. And that's like cool writing because

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<v Speaker 2>you understand who this man is immediately.

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<v Speaker 1>And I like ha ha.

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<v Speaker 2>The dad's like into the these texts with this girl

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<v Speaker 2>named Hannah, and the son is like, we're just friends,

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<v Speaker 2>and the dad goes peach emoji, that's more than friends,

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<v Speaker 2>are you too hooking up? So this man definitely cheats

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<v Speaker 2>on his wife with young women because why would he

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<v Speaker 2>know the peach emoji?

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<v Speaker 1>Why would he know the peach emoji? So the soun's like,

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<v Speaker 1>stop it.

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<v Speaker 2>I really like her and it's not like that, and

0:27:02.680 --> 0:27:06.080
<v Speaker 2>those grease bawls like you remember, women are the buyers,

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<v Speaker 2>so they have the power of choice. We're the sellers,

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<v Speaker 2>so what are you gonna do to close the deal?

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<v Speaker 1>And the day? Yet first you're like, oh, the power

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<v Speaker 1>of choice.

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<v Speaker 2>Grady's teaching consent, and then he's like, how are you

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<v Speaker 2>gonna seller on your dick?

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<v Speaker 1>Like it's not.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's also like she doesn't have to be sold,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're disgusting, that's why you have to sell yourself. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>but like it seems like your son has a connection

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<v Speaker 2>with Hannah. So the dad's like, listen, I'm gonna cancel

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<v Speaker 2>my first meeting. We can have a man to man talk.

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<v Speaker 2>So then it cuts back to the girl and she's

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<v Speaker 2>mad at her mom, like why the fuck do you

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<v Speaker 2>look at my laptop?

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<v Speaker 1>She didn't do it on purpose, but the mom's hurt.

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<v Speaker 2>She goes, I thought we told each other everything, Like

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<v Speaker 2>how are you not even gonna tell me you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>have sex? I want you to be safe, and the

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<v Speaker 2>girl says, well, we bought condoms, and the mom goes, well,

0:27:47.680 --> 0:27:49.840
<v Speaker 2>know that there's more to sex than that. There's emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>First time, it might not be what you expect. So

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<v Speaker 2>she's a cool mom and the girl's like, well, I

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<v Speaker 2>know he's the one, and so obviously, like the mom's

0:27:58.960 --> 0:28:03.160
<v Speaker 2>probably thinks her daughter's an idiot. But anyways, so then

0:28:03.600 --> 0:28:05.399
<v Speaker 2>where we're So the question is like, where are you

0:28:05.440 --> 0:28:08.320
<v Speaker 2>guys doing this? Erica's house. Her parents are out of

0:28:08.359 --> 0:28:10.560
<v Speaker 2>town in London. So the mom goes, why don't you

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<v Speaker 2>come here. I'm gonna take her aunt out for dinner,

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna go to the movies. You could have the

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<v Speaker 2>place to yourself, and you know, just don't do anything

0:28:16.920 --> 0:28:18.920
<v Speaker 2>you don't feel ready for. So now it cuts to

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<v Speaker 2>Creasy with Jesse and he gets you know, she got

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<v Speaker 2>a phone, So he's with Jesse. She's I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I like this. We'll see, but a purv is looking

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<v Speaker 2>at Jesse. Obviously Chrisey didn't like it. Then he turns

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<v Speaker 2>back and sees the pervert talking to two young girls too,

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<v Speaker 2>and so then he tells Jesse to stay on a

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<v Speaker 2>street corner, which is funny to me because it's like,

0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:40.880
<v Speaker 2>I was like, is Jesse about to get snatched? Like

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<v Speaker 2>why is Crisy Like he's gonna go protect the He's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna go protect her by leaving her feet away on Also,

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<v Speaker 2>getting her a phone when she's nine is probably the

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<v Speaker 2>worst thing he could do for her as well. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>getting her a phone at nine years old. And he's like,

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<v Speaker 2>this is Jesse, you can FaceTime your mom. Get an

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<v Speaker 2>iPad for the house? Like this is that? That's like

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<v Speaker 2>a nine year old should not have a phone. Sorry, no,

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<v Speaker 2>well we'll see. I'm angry. So he goes up to

0:29:07.320 --> 0:29:09.400
<v Speaker 2>the guy. He's like, those girls are underage. She tells

0:29:09.440 --> 0:29:11.920
<v Speaker 2>him to relax. Creasy demands his ID, and the guy goes,

0:29:11.960 --> 0:29:13.600
<v Speaker 2>are you a cop? And he goes, what do you think?

0:29:13.680 --> 0:29:15.959
<v Speaker 2>So you know, he didn't lead the witness. So then

0:29:16.000 --> 0:29:17.960
<v Speaker 2>Creasy looks at it and is like, keep your eyes

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<v Speaker 2>to yourself and if you want to keep them in

0:29:20.720 --> 0:29:23.800
<v Speaker 2>your head, Okay, that's a threat. And so then he

0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:26.120
<v Speaker 2>smiles back at Jesse and they're like, we're gonna, you know,

0:29:26.280 --> 0:29:29.520
<v Speaker 2>meet your sister for pizza. So now the girl and

0:29:29.560 --> 0:29:32.520
<v Speaker 2>the boy are getting virgin pina coladas and the dad

0:29:32.560 --> 0:29:34.360
<v Speaker 2>gave him booze to spike their drinks.

0:29:34.400 --> 0:29:38.080
<v Speaker 1>So that's upsetting. She says, your dad has good taste.

0:29:38.240 --> 0:29:42.680
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I guess she loves liquor, and he says, and

0:29:42.800 --> 0:29:45.600
<v Speaker 2>he says, yeah, he's been around. It's just like nothing

0:29:45.640 --> 0:29:48.000
<v Speaker 2>makes a pina colada taste worse than liquor, you know

0:29:48.040 --> 0:29:50.680
<v Speaker 2>what I mean, Like a pina colata is a like

0:29:50.760 --> 0:29:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I just like I love pinicolatas and I want to

0:29:53.600 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 2>get drunk, but like for a teen and be like, oh,

0:29:55.280 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 2>good taste, Like I don't know, yeah, maybe it's just

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.680
<v Speaker 2>because as a six old she's probably like had pop

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<v Speaker 2>off and like maybe the dad gave them like little

0:30:03.960 --> 0:30:05.960
<v Speaker 2>nips of like gray goose, you know, like maybe it

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<v Speaker 2>was like better.

0:30:07.160 --> 0:30:07.360
<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I rum um okay. I actually went to a

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<v Speaker 2>I went to two tiki bars this week.

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<v Speaker 4>So two tiki bars spring has sprung in New York City.

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<v Speaker 1>Geez what what? I can't get named? Two tiki bars

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<v Speaker 1>in La what? Well? One I didn't realize.

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<v Speaker 3>I go.

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<v Speaker 2>There are a lot it's kind of more divy, and

0:30:27.280 --> 0:30:29.120
<v Speaker 2>I just get divy drinks. And then I met up

0:30:29.120 --> 0:30:31.000
<v Speaker 2>friends and they had fancy drinks and they're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>this is teki.

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<v Speaker 1>They have really good cocktails. And I was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 2>And then they're like, let's go to the next tiki

0:30:35.440 --> 0:30:38.000
<v Speaker 2>spots kind of like Rainforest cafe and it's like you

0:30:38.000 --> 0:30:39.800
<v Speaker 2>have to buzz in and they buzz you in and

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<v Speaker 2>it's walking only and it's like kind of fancy and

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<v Speaker 2>our table look like a surfboard.

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<v Speaker 1>Whoa, okay, yeah it was.

0:30:50.360 --> 0:30:55.120
<v Speaker 2>It was exciting. So anyways, they enter an apartment. She

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<v Speaker 2>has a to go bag. I wonder what they got

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:58.760
<v Speaker 2>at the teable. Well, also, Commodore is one of my

0:30:58.760 --> 0:30:59.720
<v Speaker 2>favorite places.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's tiki. Oh it is. Yeah. Oh I didn't

0:31:04.840 --> 0:31:06.200
<v Speaker 1>know I'd never been there, but I didn't know that

0:31:06.240 --> 0:31:06.600
<v Speaker 1>about it.

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:09.160
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh yeah, the men it's like I get frozen

0:31:09.160 --> 0:31:11.880
<v Speaker 2>mohidos there, but yeah, full cocktail tiki.

0:31:12.080 --> 0:31:12.440
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:31:12.640 --> 0:31:15.040
<v Speaker 2>So she puts the to go back on the kitchen

0:31:15.080 --> 0:31:18.080
<v Speaker 2>table and it's just them and he can't believe they

0:31:18.080 --> 0:31:20.040
<v Speaker 2>have the whole place for themselves, and she leads him

0:31:20.040 --> 0:31:23.360
<v Speaker 2>to her room and then the close captioning says, soft

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.640
<v Speaker 2>apprehensive music. So whatever that is in your imagination, that

0:31:27.720 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>is what's happening.

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:30.320
<v Speaker 1>And then it's like.

0:31:30.240 --> 0:31:32.680
<v Speaker 2>It kind of sounds after school special, but also that

0:31:32.720 --> 0:31:35.800
<v Speaker 2>a crime is gonna happen. They start kissing. It's pretty chill.

0:31:35.960 --> 0:31:38.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh no, we're in the hospital. So the mom came

0:31:38.720 --> 0:31:41.480
<v Speaker 2>home and her daughter was in the bed vomiting, not

0:31:41.640 --> 0:31:44.840
<v Speaker 2>good fucking bruises on the neck, and the mom is panic.

0:31:44.960 --> 0:31:48.320
<v Speaker 2>She's questioning everything, and this is so sad because it's

0:31:48.320 --> 0:31:50.280
<v Speaker 2>also like, bro, this is your friend and you like

0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.719
<v Speaker 2>her and you left her vomiting and choked out, like

0:31:52.720 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? Yeah, there's this whole episode, you know,

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.200
<v Speaker 2>it's like like we we put me know mean, and

0:31:59.240 --> 0:32:02.000
<v Speaker 2>it's like you fucking just left her.

0:32:01.920 --> 0:32:06.640
<v Speaker 1>There, like yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's really because

0:32:06.680 --> 0:32:09.360
<v Speaker 1>the whole show they act like nothing really happened.

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>And it's like, this is you all suck so much whatever.

0:32:13.160 --> 0:32:15.600
<v Speaker 2>The mom is panics. The credits are rolling and we're back.

0:32:15.640 --> 0:32:18.400
<v Speaker 2>So Finn, Benson, Creasy are chatting in a walk and talk.

0:32:18.760 --> 0:32:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Benson asks about Rolin's new gig and so she's the

0:32:21.720 --> 0:32:25.560
<v Speaker 2>sergeant in the Intelligence Division and she's traveling a lot,

0:32:25.600 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and Finn's like, Crisy, make sure you let her know

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:29.440
<v Speaker 2>how proud I am of her. And it's like, I

0:32:29.480 --> 0:32:32.760
<v Speaker 2>don't understand how someone can be like a gambling attic,

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:35.960
<v Speaker 2>lying stealing guns from evidence. All I guess I can.

0:32:36.000 --> 0:32:38.600
<v Speaker 2>We know how cops work, but like, never mind, it

0:32:38.680 --> 0:32:42.440
<v Speaker 2>all makes sense. So she uh, okay, back back to this.

0:32:42.480 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 2>So Finn walks off, Crisy and Benson chat and he

0:32:44.720 --> 0:32:47.479
<v Speaker 2>needs some parenting advice. They go to her office and

0:32:47.560 --> 0:32:50.320
<v Speaker 2>he goes, who decided yoga pants and crop tops are

0:32:50.360 --> 0:32:53.640
<v Speaker 2>I think girls should be wearing? And Benson says that

0:32:53.680 --> 0:32:58.600
<v Speaker 2>would be girls. I love that. So he brings up

0:32:58.600 --> 0:33:01.360
<v Speaker 2>the Peto situation and wants to know what Rollin said.

0:33:01.400 --> 0:33:05.560
<v Speaker 2>But she's in Texas at an NYPD Border Patrol.

0:33:05.280 --> 0:33:09.120
<v Speaker 1>Meet and greet. What that's what it said? I rewound

0:33:09.120 --> 0:33:11.040
<v Speaker 1>it twice? What the fuck?

0:33:11.360 --> 0:33:14.560
<v Speaker 2>So Captain Renee Curry comes in and she has info

0:33:14.600 --> 0:33:17.719
<v Speaker 2>about the crime. So it's a sixteen year old and

0:33:17.760 --> 0:33:20.840
<v Speaker 2>so Benson and Curry had immediately to Mercy Hospital and

0:33:20.840 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 2>the mom is explaining the virginity thing and Curry is

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:25.560
<v Speaker 2>being judgy as fuck, like you allowed. Then she goes, well,

0:33:25.560 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>my first time was in a Hundai Elantra, so that's

0:33:27.920 --> 0:33:28.600
<v Speaker 2>what I'd like to do.

0:33:29.040 --> 0:33:31.360
<v Speaker 4>So she you know, like at first, when I was

0:33:31.400 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 4>watching the episode, I was like, oh my god, she's

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:35.280
<v Speaker 4>just gonna like let the kids have the house.

0:33:35.320 --> 0:33:37.000
<v Speaker 1>And then when she said the thing about the hunter, lunch.

0:33:37.000 --> 0:33:39.360
<v Speaker 1>I was like, you're right, like let him have it,

0:33:39.560 --> 0:33:42.240
<v Speaker 1>like have the house for like a nice experience that's

0:33:42.280 --> 0:33:46.440
<v Speaker 1>not like hidden and gross and yuugh you know.

0:33:46.960 --> 0:33:53.120
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, she wanted her daughter's experience to be special.

0:33:53.440 --> 0:33:55.280
<v Speaker 2>But when she came home, she was passed out, dizzy

0:33:55.280 --> 0:33:58.840
<v Speaker 2>and puking with a concussion, and yeah, what the fuck

0:33:59.400 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Hannah's clay. She doesn't remember anything, but the mom doesn't

0:34:02.320 --> 0:34:04.200
<v Speaker 2>know what to believe, like maybe she's trying to protect

0:34:04.240 --> 0:34:07.520
<v Speaker 2>someone in the system. Little alcohol, no drugs, but the

0:34:07.560 --> 0:34:09.640
<v Speaker 2>bruising on the neck is fucked. And Benson's like, well,

0:34:09.680 --> 0:34:11.640
<v Speaker 2>what do you know about Ryan? She goes, they've been

0:34:11.640 --> 0:34:14.440
<v Speaker 2>friends since grade school. They just became a couple. They

0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:17.440
<v Speaker 2>genuinely seemed to like each other. And the mom allows

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:20.160
<v Speaker 2>the detectives to go talk to Hannah without the mom,

0:34:20.760 --> 0:34:24.719
<v Speaker 2>and Hannah says it was all planned out. It was

0:34:24.760 --> 0:34:26.560
<v Speaker 2>going to be special and it was both their ideas.

0:34:26.640 --> 0:34:28.759
<v Speaker 2>They asked if she remembers the sex, and she says, no,

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:31.399
<v Speaker 2>not really. Am I in trouble And Benson goes, no, no, no,

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.280
<v Speaker 2>but like you got hurt, so your mom is worried.

0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 2>She talks about making out on the bed after dinner.

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:38.359
<v Speaker 2>Then she falls out of bed and Ryan was there

0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.239
<v Speaker 2>and he told her that she blacked out. She told

0:34:41.280 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>him to go home, and she got into bed and

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:44.680
<v Speaker 2>went to sleep. Oh okay, so she told him to

0:34:44.719 --> 0:34:45.160
<v Speaker 2>go to home.

0:34:45.520 --> 0:34:45.880
<v Speaker 1>Damn.

0:34:46.280 --> 0:34:48.200
<v Speaker 2>So Benson's like, well, what happened to your Next she goes,

0:34:48.239 --> 0:34:50.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, buzzed a little rolling around, and it's

0:34:50.360 --> 0:34:55.239
<v Speaker 2>like it truly looks like it's not that. Yeah, she goes,

0:34:55.280 --> 0:34:57.080
<v Speaker 2>it was fun at first, but then I don't remember,

0:34:57.200 --> 0:35:00.360
<v Speaker 2>and Curry says, or you don't want to say. She's like,

0:35:00.400 --> 0:35:03.160
<v Speaker 2>I just don't want Ryan to be blamed, and Benson goes,

0:35:03.200 --> 0:35:04.800
<v Speaker 2>it's not about blame or anything. We just want to

0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:07.279
<v Speaker 2>make sure you're okay and figure out what happened. But

0:35:07.320 --> 0:35:09.560
<v Speaker 2>you can rest and we'll just come back later. So

0:35:09.600 --> 0:35:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Curry is fuming outside they're walking and she's like, I

0:35:12.000 --> 0:35:14.319
<v Speaker 2>can't believe the mom allowed sex in the house when

0:35:14.360 --> 0:35:16.960
<v Speaker 2>she wasn't home, and Benson's like and she goes, well, yeah,

0:35:17.000 --> 0:35:19.200
<v Speaker 2>the mom obviously didn't know how fucked up it could get.

0:35:19.239 --> 0:35:21.520
<v Speaker 2>And Curry's like, sex is messy even for adults, let

0:35:21.520 --> 0:35:24.799
<v Speaker 2>alone kids, and Benson goes, oh, so speaking from experience,

0:35:24.840 --> 0:35:26.919
<v Speaker 2>and she goes, yeah, I found a condom wrapper under

0:35:26.960 --> 0:35:30.520
<v Speaker 2>my son's mattress. And Benson's like, okay, so you didn't know.

0:35:30.640 --> 0:35:31.240
<v Speaker 1>Is that better?

0:35:31.640 --> 0:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>And she says no. So Benson's really has a lot

0:35:34.600 --> 0:35:38.600
<v Speaker 2>of wisdom this episode. Hmmm, we're back in fully forgot

0:35:38.600 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 2>Curry had a kid. I don't, I haven't. I refused

0:35:42.640 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 2>to learn anyone new except for Bruno. That's that's how

0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>I feel. That's how I feel with the games that

0:35:50.320 --> 0:35:54.080
<v Speaker 2>they've been playing with us, bring him in, taking them out.

0:35:54.360 --> 0:35:56.560
<v Speaker 2>I don't need it, can't get can't get too comfortable

0:35:56.560 --> 0:35:59.640
<v Speaker 2>with somebody have nipped away from you. No, So the

0:35:59.719 --> 0:36:02.680
<v Speaker 2>doc explaining to the detectives that this girl is lucky

0:36:02.719 --> 0:36:05.360
<v Speaker 2>that there wasn't a brain bleed and her memory is

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:09.200
<v Speaker 2>spotty and the neck bruise is obviously from hands like

0:36:09.440 --> 0:36:12.759
<v Speaker 2>and from behind. Likely they haven't done a rape kit though,

0:36:12.880 --> 0:36:14.720
<v Speaker 2>so we got to see if Hannah Kit will agree

0:36:14.719 --> 0:36:17.759
<v Speaker 2>to one. And Velaska's with the slimeball dad and he

0:36:17.840 --> 0:36:20.600
<v Speaker 2>knows Hannah and calls her suite. He knows about his

0:36:20.719 --> 0:36:22.799
<v Speaker 2>son and her and is confused what any of this

0:36:22.960 --> 0:36:25.560
<v Speaker 2>is about. Silva is with the mom. You know they

0:36:25.920 --> 0:36:27.520
<v Speaker 2>they split it up, and the mom knows they were

0:36:27.520 --> 0:36:29.680
<v Speaker 2>on a date, and Silva's like, did you know their plans?

0:36:30.040 --> 0:36:32.040
<v Speaker 2>And according to her credit card bill, they went to

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:37.719
<v Speaker 2>a lobster restaurant in Times Square, So okay, okay, I

0:36:37.760 --> 0:36:39.040
<v Speaker 2>guess the lobster restaurant.

0:36:38.760 --> 0:36:41.240
<v Speaker 1>Kind of pinicolatas. But everything is just like really confusing

0:36:41.280 --> 0:36:41.560
<v Speaker 1>to me.

0:36:41.960 --> 0:36:43.719
<v Speaker 2>So it cuts back to the men and he's like, what,

0:36:43.920 --> 0:36:45.520
<v Speaker 2>I guess their teens they don't know where to go.

0:36:45.640 --> 0:36:47.960
<v Speaker 1>I went to Hula Hans I think before homecoming.

0:36:48.480 --> 0:36:51.520
<v Speaker 2>So he's like, what is this and Velaska's like, well,

0:36:51.600 --> 0:36:54.120
<v Speaker 2>she passed out and is in the hospital. And he's like,

0:36:54.160 --> 0:36:56.239
<v Speaker 2>and my son. And they're like, yeah, well we need

0:36:56.280 --> 0:36:58.680
<v Speaker 2>to talk to your son. And he walks in. He's

0:36:58.719 --> 0:37:01.120
<v Speaker 2>super confused she and he goes, well, Hannah wasn't at

0:37:01.120 --> 0:37:04.399
<v Speaker 2>school and I've called her like ten times. He looks

0:37:04.400 --> 0:37:07.200
<v Speaker 2>sad and guilty, and they're like, well, what was she

0:37:07.280 --> 0:37:09.200
<v Speaker 2>like when you left? And he said that she fell

0:37:09.239 --> 0:37:11.480
<v Speaker 2>out of the bed but said she was fine. The

0:37:11.560 --> 0:37:13.960
<v Speaker 2>dad says, go to your room, No way, we're talking

0:37:13.920 --> 0:37:17.000
<v Speaker 2>to you without an attorney. Dramatic music, So the detectives

0:37:17.040 --> 0:37:19.759
<v Speaker 2>are outside Silva's like, well, he does actually seem worried

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:22.400
<v Speaker 2>about Hannah, and the parents are like kind of the

0:37:22.480 --> 0:37:26.239
<v Speaker 2>issue and maybe they're just a little overprotective, Like I

0:37:26.239 --> 0:37:28.400
<v Speaker 2>wonder what's happening, But in my head, I go or

0:37:28.440 --> 0:37:30.799
<v Speaker 2>their son did something because the dad knows exactly what

0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:33.560
<v Speaker 2>he did. Okay, So back at the precinct, CARIESI and

0:37:33.600 --> 0:37:36.799
<v Speaker 2>Benson are chatting and Hannah is home. There was no

0:37:36.920 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 2>semen but condom lube evidence and like she didn't give

0:37:41.520 --> 0:37:43.480
<v Speaker 2>we don't know about the consent of everything, but she

0:37:43.560 --> 0:37:46.120
<v Speaker 2>does have works on her neck. So the you know,

0:37:46.160 --> 0:37:47.760
<v Speaker 2>the detectives are debating.

0:37:47.360 --> 0:37:48.279
<v Speaker 1>Is it a crime? Is it not?

0:37:48.520 --> 0:37:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Like what's happening bruising? Consent? What's a concussion? What can

0:37:52.120 --> 0:37:55.640
<v Speaker 2>she recall? Is she protecting Ryan? And Cariese's like fuck

0:37:55.680 --> 0:37:58.680
<v Speaker 2>all this and like let's we need we need more,

0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:59.319
<v Speaker 2>we need more.

0:37:59.400 --> 0:38:01.799
<v Speaker 1>So she doesn't really want to talk to them.

0:38:01.840 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 2>The mom's like, listen, you were concussed and bruised, so

0:38:04.760 --> 0:38:06.279
<v Speaker 2>we're going to be here and we're going to talk.

0:38:06.600 --> 0:38:08.880
<v Speaker 2>And Benson goes, this sucks for sure, but you're a

0:38:08.920 --> 0:38:11.880
<v Speaker 2>minor and we just like need some questions answered. She

0:38:11.960 --> 0:38:14.320
<v Speaker 2>says she wasn't raped, and the sex was fun at first,

0:38:14.440 --> 0:38:16.920
<v Speaker 2>but she says it's a blur and she goes, okay,

0:38:16.960 --> 0:38:17.960
<v Speaker 2>so what do you recall?

0:38:18.000 --> 0:38:20.640
<v Speaker 1>Clearly, that's what they ask her because I keep saying

0:38:20.640 --> 0:38:22.560
<v Speaker 1>she but there's four women in the scene. Okay.

0:38:22.640 --> 0:38:25.200
<v Speaker 2>So they were kissing. He took off his clothes and

0:38:25.280 --> 0:38:27.799
<v Speaker 2>her clothes and she was fine. She was nervous. It

0:38:27.840 --> 0:38:30.520
<v Speaker 2>was awkward but fine, and Benson's like, that's totally understandable.

0:38:30.840 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 2>And she goes, and this is awkward too, you know,

0:38:32.640 --> 0:38:34.840
<v Speaker 2>like and we understand that, but just tell us what happened.

0:38:34.880 --> 0:38:35.520
<v Speaker 1>It is okay.

0:38:36.000 --> 0:38:38.319
<v Speaker 2>So Hannah's like, well, my friends who have done it

0:38:38.360 --> 0:38:40.760
<v Speaker 2>said that guys like when you act like the videos

0:38:40.800 --> 0:38:42.880
<v Speaker 2>that they watch. So she goes, at first it was

0:38:42.920 --> 0:38:44.920
<v Speaker 2>face to face, but then he wanted to try something,

0:38:45.080 --> 0:38:48.320
<v Speaker 2>and she's like really sad and embarrassed, and the mom

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.359
<v Speaker 2>is like very caring and leaning it, but you know,

0:38:51.400 --> 0:38:53.840
<v Speaker 2>it's weird. But he turned her over and then held

0:38:53.880 --> 0:38:56.319
<v Speaker 2>her neck and so then his hands were around her

0:38:56.360 --> 0:38:58.760
<v Speaker 2>neck and she wanted to say, you're hurting me, stop,

0:38:59.080 --> 0:39:03.080
<v Speaker 2>but she she she either thinks he didn't hear or

0:39:03.280 --> 0:39:05.120
<v Speaker 2>and she also said it was hard to talk while

0:39:05.120 --> 0:39:08.839
<v Speaker 2>being strangled and then I all being yoked essentially like

0:39:08.920 --> 0:39:13.680
<v Speaker 2>from behind. Like that's like, yeah, so I actually just

0:39:13.680 --> 0:39:15.840
<v Speaker 2>saw this online where it's like we call it choking,

0:39:15.880 --> 0:39:17.080
<v Speaker 2>but it's strangulation.

0:39:17.320 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 1>Choking is when it's internal. Yeah.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:23.400
<v Speaker 2>So even the language we use is like what we

0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.520
<v Speaker 2>do always do with like kind of violence against women

0:39:26.800 --> 0:39:29.799
<v Speaker 2>and stuff, where it's like it's blameless.

0:39:29.880 --> 0:39:31.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's like a woman was found dead. It's

0:39:31.800 --> 0:39:35.200
<v Speaker 1>never like, you know, man murdered. Yeah.

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:39.480
<v Speaker 2>So I'm just like curious how that became it because

0:39:39.520 --> 0:39:42.640
<v Speaker 2>if it was called oh, you're strangling during sex, I

0:39:42.680 --> 0:39:44.640
<v Speaker 2>don't think it would. Well we'll talk about it a

0:39:44.680 --> 0:39:48.840
<v Speaker 2>little bit, have the marketing, Oh we will. But I

0:39:48.960 --> 0:39:51.720
<v Speaker 2>so I made a point to I make a point.

0:39:52.200 --> 0:39:54.759
<v Speaker 2>That's like my new thing. I want to be able to.

0:39:55.360 --> 0:39:57.960
<v Speaker 2>I want to call people out and correct people. Like

0:40:00.080 --> 0:40:01.920
<v Speaker 2>people say fucked kids, and I'd be like, you actually

0:40:01.960 --> 0:40:03.680
<v Speaker 2>can't fuck a kid, you fucking get it.

0:40:04.320 --> 0:40:07.160
<v Speaker 1>So next time someone goes she was choked, I'll be like, well,

0:40:07.600 --> 0:40:09.840
<v Speaker 1>she was having sex with her teacher. Like no, she

0:40:09.960 --> 0:40:12.880
<v Speaker 1>was being raped by her teacher. Yeah, so that's something.

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:16.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, he's like strangling her from behind, and it's

0:40:16.040 --> 0:40:16.719
<v Speaker 2>their first time.

0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:18.799
<v Speaker 1>Like I don't like the dad.

0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:20.560
<v Speaker 2>You know, we know where this is going, but like

0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:22.799
<v Speaker 2>I just don't know in what world you have to

0:40:22.840 --> 0:40:27.400
<v Speaker 2>like get choked from behind at your first time? I know,

0:40:27.640 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Like it just makes it's just such weird advice. It's

0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:32.520
<v Speaker 2>just such a strange point of view to have.

0:40:32.960 --> 0:40:36.120
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, or like a girl that hasn't had sex before

0:40:36.800 --> 0:40:40.720
<v Speaker 4>is going to need you to like rock her world

0:40:40.920 --> 0:40:45.200
<v Speaker 4>so fucking hard the first time or what she's gonna be.

0:40:45.239 --> 0:40:47.239
<v Speaker 4>Like you're bad at this, Like you're both bad at

0:40:47.280 --> 0:40:50.880
<v Speaker 4>it right, like you've never done it. Yeah, Like the

0:40:50.880 --> 0:40:54.120
<v Speaker 4>way that this dad like told his kid, like you

0:40:54.239 --> 0:40:57.280
<v Speaker 4>got to sell yourself, it's like not really none, nobody

0:40:57.320 --> 0:40:59.359
<v Speaker 4>knows what they're even buying right now, you know.

0:41:00.200 --> 0:41:01.640
<v Speaker 1>Into it, Like the dad ruined everything.

0:41:01.640 --> 0:41:04.120
<v Speaker 2>This could have been so good And it's like kids,

0:41:04.160 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 2>but it's also and this is the same thing where

0:41:06.080 --> 0:41:08.239
<v Speaker 2>it's like all about that, like his first time, his

0:41:08.280 --> 0:41:11.080
<v Speaker 2>first time is like there's another person involved, Yeah, And

0:41:11.080 --> 0:41:13.800
<v Speaker 2>that's like when we talk about like it's it's so cultural.

0:41:13.840 --> 0:41:15.759
<v Speaker 2>It's like rape culture goes so deep where it's like

0:41:15.800 --> 0:41:17.600
<v Speaker 2>how do you even view sex? It's like whenever the

0:41:17.600 --> 0:41:19.680
<v Speaker 2>asson sorry article comes up where it's like it's not

0:41:19.719 --> 0:41:21.720
<v Speaker 2>a crime. It's like no one's saying it's a crime,

0:41:21.960 --> 0:41:25.359
<v Speaker 2>like yeah, that, but it's just this idea of like

0:41:25.840 --> 0:41:29.920
<v Speaker 2>the other person is irrelevant to this experience and like

0:41:30.040 --> 0:41:33.880
<v Speaker 2>that is strange, like for the dad, like you ruined

0:41:33.960 --> 0:41:37.680
<v Speaker 2>her fucking like first time. It just this pisses me off, obviously.

0:41:38.239 --> 0:41:39.960
<v Speaker 2>So she was on the floor and Ryan said she

0:41:40.040 --> 0:41:42.240
<v Speaker 2>hit her head on the nightstand, but she doesn't remember

0:41:42.239 --> 0:41:44.319
<v Speaker 2>that either. So then Curry takes her to go get

0:41:44.360 --> 0:41:47.120
<v Speaker 2>a soda and the mom goes so she assaults it

0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:49.640
<v Speaker 2>and Benson goes, this is complicated, and the mom goes,

0:41:49.680 --> 0:41:51.000
<v Speaker 2>I thought Ryan was a good kid.

0:41:51.320 --> 0:41:52.719
<v Speaker 1>Did I misjudge him?

0:41:53.040 --> 0:41:55.279
<v Speaker 2>And Benson goes, if she wanted him to stop and

0:41:55.320 --> 0:41:57.520
<v Speaker 2>he didn't, it is a crime, and the mom obviously

0:41:57.760 --> 0:42:00.719
<v Speaker 2>blames herself. So then the most important thing is to

0:42:00.719 --> 0:42:02.839
<v Speaker 2>take care of Hannah, and Benson in the Ada will

0:42:02.840 --> 0:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>talk to Ryan. So Cariese is getting livid, right he's

0:42:06.520 --> 0:42:09.719
<v Speaker 2>hearing the details. He wants this kid's head, and Finn's like,

0:42:09.719 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 2>hold on, shouldn't we just like talk to Ryan, And

0:42:12.120 --> 0:42:13.680
<v Speaker 2>it's like, well, let's look at the data Finn how

0:42:13.719 --> 0:42:16.879
<v Speaker 2>often Like I hate when Finn still acts like it's

0:42:16.920 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 2>season four, like it really annoys me. But anyway, so

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:23.000
<v Speaker 2>he's on his way down. Chrisy goes, oh, I can't

0:42:23.040 --> 0:42:26.280
<v Speaker 2>wait to hear this. Benson is not into this energy.

0:42:26.360 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>So he goes, Finn's going in there, you're being weird,

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:31.160
<v Speaker 2>and he goes, go, fuck yourself. I can control myself.

0:42:31.640 --> 0:42:33.480
<v Speaker 2>A lot of people in the room. And it's this

0:42:33.560 --> 0:42:36.960
<v Speaker 2>new kind of room. It's a window cube with long blinds,

0:42:38.239 --> 0:42:40.040
<v Speaker 2>window blinds. I don't know, I don't know what to

0:42:40.080 --> 0:42:44.200
<v Speaker 2>call it by the room. But he didn't hear her

0:42:44.280 --> 0:42:47.279
<v Speaker 2>say no, But it's like, were you even listening to that?

0:42:47.280 --> 0:42:48.880
<v Speaker 2>That's like the other one, remember when the girl got

0:42:48.880 --> 0:42:51.240
<v Speaker 2>assaulted at the party, and like I think it's Barbo's

0:42:51.239 --> 0:42:54.000
<v Speaker 2>like you didn't ask for conste because you didn't care. Yeah,

0:42:54.040 --> 0:42:55.719
<v Speaker 2>so it's like, oh, well I didn't hear her say no?

0:42:55.880 --> 0:42:58.960
<v Speaker 2>Were you listening? And the like again he did rivalry. Sorry,

0:42:59.040 --> 0:43:01.279
<v Speaker 2>but it's like the explicit concept of like do you

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.000
<v Speaker 2>want like the constant I didn't hear her say no,

0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:09.440
<v Speaker 2>but so I choked her, Like it's like infuriating to me.

0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:13.720
<v Speaker 2>Finn is like, well maybe, and and the dad ruined

0:43:13.760 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 2>all of it, like if the dad didn't see the texts,

0:43:15.960 --> 0:43:18.080
<v Speaker 2>like Finn goes, well, maybe she shouldn't.

0:43:18.160 --> 0:43:18.839
<v Speaker 1>She couldn't talk.

0:43:18.880 --> 0:43:21.880
<v Speaker 2>So Finn brings that up and he goes maybe he says,

0:43:21.880 --> 0:43:24.560
<v Speaker 2>we were trying, you know, and he says, so, okay, whatever,

0:43:24.600 --> 0:43:26.640
<v Speaker 2>So they are doing doggy style. The mom pushes her

0:43:26.680 --> 0:43:29.200
<v Speaker 2>hair back behind her ears. She didn't like this conversation,

0:43:29.840 --> 0:43:32.080
<v Speaker 2>and he says I was just holding her and Cariese

0:43:32.080 --> 0:43:34.840
<v Speaker 2>shows the photos of the marks, which are aggressive, and

0:43:34.880 --> 0:43:37.200
<v Speaker 2>the mom says he would never hurt Hannah, and it's like,

0:43:37.239 --> 0:43:40.600
<v Speaker 2>well these photos do say otherwise, like she was in

0:43:40.640 --> 0:43:43.520
<v Speaker 2>the hospital. So I don't know what you're saying actually,

0:43:44.680 --> 0:43:47.360
<v Speaker 2>So Finn says, let's focus on what he has to say,

0:43:48.000 --> 0:43:49.240
<v Speaker 2>and he says he saw.

0:43:49.080 --> 0:43:51.480
<v Speaker 1>It online, and the lawyer.

0:43:51.239 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 2>Encourages him to say the truth or they're like where,

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:56.360
<v Speaker 2>like who showed you whatever? He says sorry, and Cariese

0:43:56.480 --> 0:43:58.640
<v Speaker 2>goes move on, like where did you learn to choke

0:43:58.719 --> 0:44:01.160
<v Speaker 2>during sex? And so he says the fencing team showed

0:44:01.200 --> 0:44:06.320
<v Speaker 2>him you know the Yeah, okay, so notoriously hot notoriously

0:44:06.920 --> 0:44:09.200
<v Speaker 2>we actually don't, but we actually don't know about fencing,

0:44:09.280 --> 0:44:11.040
<v Speaker 2>Like are they so hot? Like, we don't know anything

0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:14.279
<v Speaker 2>about fencing. It could be the bad boys of prep school.

0:44:14.000 --> 0:44:16.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, they could be. It could be we really

0:44:16.360 --> 0:44:17.960
<v Speaker 1>have no idea on guard.

0:44:18.840 --> 0:44:21.480
<v Speaker 2>So he says some of the okay, so the older

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>guys and said that the girls liked it. And it's like, again,

0:44:24.000 --> 0:44:27.040
<v Speaker 2>why don't you just ask this girl? Why are you

0:44:27.040 --> 0:44:30.319
<v Speaker 2>listening to these guys. Yeah, greaseball Dad's kicking a.

0:44:30.320 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 1>Vending machine, and I went, there's no way he would

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:36.799
<v Speaker 1>not be in the room. And then later he does say,

0:44:36.840 --> 0:44:38.719
<v Speaker 1>my wife told me I couldn't be Yeah. Yeah, So

0:44:38.800 --> 0:44:44.480
<v Speaker 1>like I do love that we're all connected as the universe.

0:44:45.080 --> 0:44:47.920
<v Speaker 1>So greaseball Dad is kicking the vending machine. Okay, So

0:44:48.960 --> 0:44:49.680
<v Speaker 1>he's banging around.

0:44:49.680 --> 0:44:51.880
<v Speaker 2>Silvin Velasco talk about him, and they're like, you know,

0:44:51.960 --> 0:44:54.400
<v Speaker 2>men like that don't like to feel helpless. He's obviously

0:44:54.440 --> 0:44:57.160
<v Speaker 2>like their house was nice, you know, he's like a rich,

0:44:57.600 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 2>authoritative business type of guy. So Velasco goes in there

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:03.520
<v Speaker 2>to like play some games and they bond over the

0:45:03.560 --> 0:45:06.320
<v Speaker 2>tricky vending machines. This is when he talks about his

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 2>wife not letting him be in the room, and then

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:11.320
<v Speaker 2>the dad says, whatever the sun did wasn't his fault.

0:45:11.400 --> 0:45:13.920
<v Speaker 2>He is a good kid. He doesn't to reserve to

0:45:14.000 --> 0:45:16.600
<v Speaker 2>have his life ruin, but she can have her life ruined,

0:45:17.040 --> 0:45:19.480
<v Speaker 2>so she can go to the hospital and have marks

0:45:19.520 --> 0:45:22.759
<v Speaker 2>around her neck and have her sexual experience ruined, but

0:45:23.000 --> 0:45:26.880
<v Speaker 2>don't ruin her his son's life again, he goes, whatever

0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:29.520
<v Speaker 2>their teens, it's their first time, so he goes, sex

0:45:29.600 --> 0:45:31.360
<v Speaker 2>is hard to figure out. We don't have to go

0:45:31.400 --> 0:45:34.160
<v Speaker 2>further down this road. And now he brings up fundraisers

0:45:34.160 --> 0:45:37.359
<v Speaker 2>for the NYPD. How he supports cops. He likes to

0:45:37.840 --> 0:45:40.359
<v Speaker 2>He likes to support cops and not defund them. That's

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.160
<v Speaker 2>what he says. And his firm and he goes, yeah,

0:45:43.200 --> 0:45:46.280
<v Speaker 2>do you have any recommendations for where my firm should donate,

0:45:46.520 --> 0:45:48.480
<v Speaker 2>and Velasco leans in and says, I don't get what

0:45:48.520 --> 0:45:51.440
<v Speaker 2>you're saying. And he goes, you, uh, you know, like

0:45:51.520 --> 0:45:53.719
<v Speaker 2>where do you want the money? Like I could give

0:45:53.719 --> 0:45:56.640
<v Speaker 2>it to poor kids, or maybe there's something you're personally

0:45:56.640 --> 0:46:00.000
<v Speaker 2>invested in, and Alasko goes, that's not how it works, babe.

0:46:00.200 --> 0:46:02.600
<v Speaker 2>So then Finn walks out or you know, back in

0:46:02.600 --> 0:46:04.680
<v Speaker 2>that area and the lawyer, and Ryan told us his

0:46:04.760 --> 0:46:07.239
<v Speaker 2>side and it's not enough to rest anyone yet. So

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.839
<v Speaker 2>then the dad's like, how are things and the son goes,

0:46:09.880 --> 0:46:12.240
<v Speaker 2>Hannah won't even text me back, and the dad asks

0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:15.120
<v Speaker 2>if it's over, and Crisey goes, we'll be in touch,

0:46:15.320 --> 0:46:17.319
<v Speaker 2>and like, because I wonder if the dad when he

0:46:17.400 --> 0:46:20.239
<v Speaker 2>was asking, even cared about the Hannah, Like I don't

0:46:20.239 --> 0:46:21.960
<v Speaker 2>even think he's he doesn't think about you know, like

0:46:22.040 --> 0:46:23.960
<v Speaker 2>I bet he was a coward things and like this

0:46:24.080 --> 0:46:24.960
<v Speaker 2>boy does.

0:46:25.760 --> 0:46:27.840
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. It's like all pretty upsetting.

0:46:28.400 --> 0:46:31.799
<v Speaker 2>So Ryan didn't confess to anything, but he admitted to

0:46:32.040 --> 0:46:35.680
<v Speaker 2>the strangulation, and Finn is like, well he didn't hear

0:46:35.840 --> 0:46:38.480
<v Speaker 2>no and didn't know she was unconscious, and it's like,

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:43.920
<v Speaker 2>but that's strange, Like to keep fucking an unconscious person

0:46:44.760 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 2>is rape.

0:46:46.239 --> 0:46:48.520
<v Speaker 1>It's like you're you've raised a rapist.

0:46:48.719 --> 0:46:51.239
<v Speaker 2>This isn't like some accident, like they keep acting like

0:46:51.280 --> 0:46:54.360
<v Speaker 2>it's an accident, but like the thing he did is

0:46:54.440 --> 0:46:57.359
<v Speaker 2>weird and fucked whether his dad and friends encouraged him

0:46:57.440 --> 0:47:01.440
<v Speaker 2>or not, And then Criesy says, well maybe jew like

0:47:01.480 --> 0:47:04.680
<v Speaker 2>it'll be juvie, not like full jail whatever. So now

0:47:05.480 --> 0:47:08.880
<v Speaker 2>Silva comes in another choking of a teen girl. Okay,

0:47:08.920 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 2>So then Caresi joins her of Alasko and they're mount

0:47:11.239 --> 0:47:13.520
<v Speaker 2>in the scene with like uniform cops. And then the

0:47:13.560 --> 0:47:15.920
<v Speaker 2>two boys attempted to rape a twelve year old girl

0:47:16.000 --> 0:47:18.640
<v Speaker 2>named Eliza Quinn. So then while she was trying to

0:47:18.680 --> 0:47:21.279
<v Speaker 2>run away, she ran into the West Side Highway, got

0:47:21.320 --> 0:47:25.879
<v Speaker 2>hit by a cab. She's in terrible shape and so yeah,

0:47:25.880 --> 0:47:30.520
<v Speaker 2>so another girl told the detectives about the assault, cribs,

0:47:30.600 --> 0:47:33.720
<v Speaker 2>I'm really scared to run onto the West Side Highway.

0:47:34.880 --> 0:47:38.080
<v Speaker 1>Yeah it's a highway. Yeah.

0:47:38.880 --> 0:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So she's in a cute pink outfit like the witness

0:47:41.840 --> 0:47:43.719
<v Speaker 2>and I like it. So she says that the two

0:47:43.719 --> 0:47:47.000
<v Speaker 2>boys were high and started messing with Eliza, trying to

0:47:47.080 --> 0:47:47.520
<v Speaker 2>kiss her.

0:47:47.600 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 1>Then it got worse.

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.279
<v Speaker 2>They pulled up her skirt and grabbed her hands on

0:47:51.440 --> 0:47:56.280
<v Speaker 2>her neck. She ran to get away. Caresi is spiraling.

0:47:57.440 --> 0:47:59.880
<v Speaker 2>So Benson meets Kurry at the hospital and it's like,

0:48:00.080 --> 0:48:04.080
<v Speaker 2>what the fuck? Another teen choking crime. The girls in surgery,

0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:06.759
<v Speaker 2>the two thirteen year old boys are in interrogation, and

0:48:06.800 --> 0:48:09.560
<v Speaker 2>it's boy mom time. So it's dark as fuck, and

0:48:09.760 --> 0:48:12.359
<v Speaker 2>a girl so the girl's in surgery. It's like and

0:48:12.400 --> 0:48:14.400
<v Speaker 2>so the mom goes, it's a midnight. He has school

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:17.120
<v Speaker 2>tomorrow morning, and Silva goes, oh, she's not going to school.

0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:18.600
<v Speaker 1>He's not going to school.

0:48:18.600 --> 0:48:20.920
<v Speaker 2>And the boy swears he didn't do it, and Velasco goes, well,

0:48:20.920 --> 0:48:23.360
<v Speaker 2>we have a witness and we're also talking to her

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 2>friend Andrew, so what's going on. He goes, we were

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.480
<v Speaker 2>just fooling around, and Silva goes, you choked her. So

0:48:29.520 --> 0:48:31.400
<v Speaker 2>the mom is like whoa, whoa, whoa. So the girl

0:48:31.520 --> 0:48:33.560
<v Speaker 2>ring into the highway like who gives a shit, and

0:48:33.600 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 2>Vlaska's like, well she might not survive, you fucking idiot.

0:48:36.600 --> 0:48:39.000
<v Speaker 2>And then the mom is like, you motherfucker. You tell

0:48:39.040 --> 0:48:42.080
<v Speaker 2>them everything. So now the mom realizes like that it

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:44.399
<v Speaker 2>is connected and her son might not be a good boy.

0:48:45.000 --> 0:48:47.680
<v Speaker 2>He goes, I didn't do anything, and it's like, well,

0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:49.640
<v Speaker 2>did you not do anything or were you just fooling

0:48:49.680 --> 0:48:53.080
<v Speaker 2>around because it seems like you're lying, and how is

0:48:53.120 --> 0:48:56.640
<v Speaker 2>pulling up someone's skirt and choking them nothing?

0:48:56.800 --> 0:48:57.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

0:48:57.480 --> 0:49:00.239
<v Speaker 2>He finally admits it, but Andrew told him girls like

0:49:00.320 --> 0:49:02.799
<v Speaker 2>that sort of thing. So then this other kid goes

0:49:02.800 --> 0:49:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Eliza started flirting with us, and I'm Finn and creasy

0:49:05.960 --> 0:49:08.320
<v Speaker 2>looks scary. If I was like a teen sex criminal,

0:49:08.360 --> 0:49:10.920
<v Speaker 2>I'd be very nervous. And the dad is pissed and

0:49:10.960 --> 0:49:14.239
<v Speaker 2>the kid does say The kid says sorry, and Finn goes,

0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.920
<v Speaker 2>sorry you tried to rape her, or sorry you got caught.

0:49:17.640 --> 0:49:20.360
<v Speaker 2>And then the dad's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, he's only thirteen,

0:49:20.480 --> 0:49:22.760
<v Speaker 2>and Chrisy goes, yeah, so is the girl. The girl's

0:49:22.760 --> 0:49:24.799
<v Speaker 2>twelve and she might die. And he goes, well, it's

0:49:24.800 --> 0:49:26.239
<v Speaker 2>not our fault, it's not his fault. And he goes, well,

0:49:26.320 --> 0:49:28.960
<v Speaker 2>whose falt is it? And so then he goes, well,

0:49:28.960 --> 0:49:31.120
<v Speaker 2>someone showed it to us a few days ago. Finn goes,

0:49:31.160 --> 0:49:34.960
<v Speaker 2>you watched porn. He says his cousin Ryan. So his

0:49:35.040 --> 0:49:38.479
<v Speaker 2>cousin is Ryan, So his cousin showed him the choking video.

0:49:38.640 --> 0:49:42.080
<v Speaker 4>This is like one of the craziest things this show

0:49:42.080 --> 0:49:45.360
<v Speaker 4>has ever done. Within twenty four hours, two cousins are

0:49:45.440 --> 0:49:51.080
<v Speaker 4>choking girls out and too bad to like tragic effect come.

0:49:50.920 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 5>On, like.

0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:56.560
<v Speaker 2>It's yeah, but I hear what I see what they're

0:49:56.560 --> 0:49:59.720
<v Speaker 2>trying to do. Yeah, So they say the dad showed

0:50:00.120 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 2>in the video and then whatever, So now the cousins

0:50:03.520 --> 0:50:05.760
<v Speaker 2>didn't know that, like the cousins in trouble.

0:50:05.800 --> 0:50:07.280
<v Speaker 1>No, these cousins are a mess.

0:50:07.320 --> 0:50:09.080
<v Speaker 2>So then Criese's like, fuck, I want to go after

0:50:09.120 --> 0:50:10.719
<v Speaker 2>the dad, Like the dad is the reason all of

0:50:10.760 --> 0:50:14.160
<v Speaker 2>this is happening. So then the father showed encouraged choke

0:50:14.239 --> 0:50:16.799
<v Speaker 2>porn and that's endangering the welfare of a child, Like

0:50:16.840 --> 0:50:20.560
<v Speaker 2>you can't be showing children porn. So then Velasco goes

0:50:20.600 --> 0:50:23.560
<v Speaker 2>to hang outside Ryan's school with Silva to like break

0:50:23.680 --> 0:50:27.600
<v Speaker 2>rules right and again he's like, so sad Hannah won't

0:50:27.600 --> 0:50:29.880
<v Speaker 2>talk to him. You know, he broke up with it.

0:50:30.200 --> 0:50:33.719
<v Speaker 2>She broke she broke up with him. Duh, you strangled

0:50:33.760 --> 0:50:41.120
<v Speaker 2>her unconscious. She doesn't want to date you. So like

0:50:41.360 --> 0:50:44.960
<v Speaker 2>they diminished, We've diminished sex crime so much that he's like,

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:48.040
<v Speaker 2>what do you mean she don't meet? Like she ended

0:50:48.120 --> 0:50:51.439
<v Speaker 2>up in the hospital, like fucking loser. They ask about

0:50:51.480 --> 0:50:55.239
<v Speaker 2>Eliza Quinn because they're not here for dating updates, and

0:50:55.280 --> 0:50:57.240
<v Speaker 2>he heard about the cab, but not about the cousin

0:50:57.239 --> 0:50:59.720
<v Speaker 2>assaulting him. They bring up the choking porn he again

0:51:00.200 --> 0:51:03.160
<v Speaker 2>and says it's the fencing guys, And he says, my dad.

0:51:02.880 --> 0:51:03.600
<v Speaker 1>Wouldn't do that.

0:51:03.640 --> 0:51:06.880
<v Speaker 2>He just gave me pointers, and Silva says, if I

0:51:07.000 --> 0:51:08.280
<v Speaker 2>was you, I'd get a new coach.

0:51:08.760 --> 0:51:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Nice.

0:51:09.760 --> 0:51:12.000
<v Speaker 2>So the nephew still is like, it's Ryan's dad. It's

0:51:12.080 --> 0:51:13.960
<v Speaker 2>Ryan's dad, and Chrisy goes, I don't care. It's enough

0:51:13.960 --> 0:51:15.799
<v Speaker 2>for a warrant. I'ng of a fuck. So they show

0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:18.400
<v Speaker 2>up cop lights flashing, and the mom goes, ough.

0:51:18.160 --> 0:51:20.440
<v Speaker 1>You guys are annoying, please leave, and they go we have.

0:51:20.400 --> 0:51:23.279
<v Speaker 2>A warrant for searching and for arresting, so get out

0:51:23.280 --> 0:51:23.680
<v Speaker 2>of our way.

0:51:24.719 --> 0:51:27.000
<v Speaker 1>The dad calls him insane. The dad says, I swear

0:51:27.040 --> 0:51:27.760
<v Speaker 1>it and do anything.

0:51:27.840 --> 0:51:30.040
<v Speaker 2>The dad lifts his arms to shut up his son

0:51:30.760 --> 0:51:32.719
<v Speaker 2>who's about to talk, and he tells his wife to

0:51:32.760 --> 0:51:35.000
<v Speaker 2>call a lawyer and meet at the precinct. So we're

0:51:35.000 --> 0:51:36.759
<v Speaker 2>at cement room bars and he's like, I was just

0:51:36.760 --> 0:51:38.600
<v Speaker 2>trying to be a good father and give advice about

0:51:38.640 --> 0:51:40.719
<v Speaker 2>sex for the first time. So it's like a girl

0:51:40.760 --> 0:51:42.640
<v Speaker 2>needs to be strangled for her first time. I don't

0:51:42.680 --> 0:51:45.080
<v Speaker 2>understand how that's the advice, Like, I just don't. I

0:51:45.160 --> 0:51:48.400
<v Speaker 2>don't understand this man, Like even if you're into choking,

0:51:48.480 --> 0:51:51.239
<v Speaker 2>like I just like Finn is grossed out.

0:51:51.280 --> 0:51:54.120
<v Speaker 1>So he's like, you showed him porn? And then.

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 2>The skuy zach Orth he's one of my favorite VEEP moments,

0:51:59.040 --> 0:52:01.160
<v Speaker 2>and he's playing the lawyer and he's in a season

0:52:01.320 --> 0:52:04.600
<v Speaker 2>two episode called Consent, but he's what hot American Summer.

0:52:04.640 --> 0:52:06.520
<v Speaker 2>But he's in one of my favorite VIEP moments of

0:52:06.520 --> 0:52:08.480
<v Speaker 2>all time where where.

0:52:08.320 --> 0:52:09.319
<v Speaker 1>He goes, do you want to drink?

0:52:09.520 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 2>And then Mike goes, no, I think I have to

0:52:11.560 --> 0:52:13.920
<v Speaker 2>get home, and he goes what and he goes, no.

0:52:13.960 --> 0:52:21.440
<v Speaker 1>We love to drink, We love that. Whatever. So basically

0:52:21.480 --> 0:52:23.120
<v Speaker 1>he calls his nephew a liar. Love that.

0:52:24.320 --> 0:52:26.200
<v Speaker 2>But they have not found anything on the hard drive,

0:52:26.280 --> 0:52:28.839
<v Speaker 2>so that's really hard. And he's not admitting anything. There's

0:52:28.840 --> 0:52:31.400
<v Speaker 2>no evidence. It's going to be dismissed. Even endangerment is

0:52:31.400 --> 0:52:34.839
<v Speaker 2>a misdemeanor. So now Benson gets a call not good news,

0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:37.319
<v Speaker 2>somber music. We know what's happening. We know we know

0:52:37.520 --> 0:52:40.640
<v Speaker 2>Eliza Quinn's dead. They couldn't save her. Oh, we know

0:52:41.160 --> 0:52:44.080
<v Speaker 2>the parents want justice and she wants the boys put

0:52:44.160 --> 0:52:46.520
<v Speaker 2>in jail and punish. But like she's like, I'm not

0:52:46.560 --> 0:52:49.200
<v Speaker 2>going to see my daughter graduate or get married, and

0:52:49.239 --> 0:52:52.320
<v Speaker 2>I love that. It's like nineteen sixties. Like so nineteen sixties,

0:52:53.000 --> 0:52:57.240
<v Speaker 2>just like nothing else. Graduate get married, but it's tragedy.

0:52:57.239 --> 0:52:59.759
<v Speaker 2>I like, you know, I get it. So they're in

0:53:00.320 --> 0:53:03.000
<v Speaker 2>so even if punished at eighteen, they will be like

0:53:03.040 --> 0:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>they'll they'll be able to be fine. So the parents

0:53:05.840 --> 0:53:09.000
<v Speaker 2>cry over their dead child's body while Benson and Currie watch.

0:53:09.480 --> 0:53:12.799
<v Speaker 2>They like, watch this happen, this intimate moment, but Benson goes, no,

0:53:12.880 --> 0:53:15.640
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna get them fucking justice. So her phone buzzes

0:53:15.680 --> 0:53:17.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's been and she says, I'll meet you there

0:53:17.800 --> 0:53:20.520
<v Speaker 2>so and her white manicure looks really nice. So back

0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 2>at Ryan's house, they're like, what the fuck, why are

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:24.760
<v Speaker 2>you here? Everything is fine and they go no, someone

0:53:24.800 --> 0:53:27.840
<v Speaker 2>called with a disturbance call and Ryan says it was me,

0:53:28.320 --> 0:53:30.160
<v Speaker 2>and the mom is like that girl is dead, and

0:53:30.200 --> 0:53:32.120
<v Speaker 2>the dad is like, sure, that's sad, but it's not

0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.280
<v Speaker 2>our problem. And the mom says, you are a liar

0:53:34.320 --> 0:53:37.040
<v Speaker 2>and a cheater, and then Cariese and Ryan are talking

0:53:37.080 --> 0:53:39.200
<v Speaker 2>and Ryan says, I love Hannah. I didn't know what

0:53:39.239 --> 0:53:41.040
<v Speaker 2>I was doing was wrong and I did not mean

0:53:41.080 --> 0:53:43.799
<v Speaker 2>to hurt her. The mom wants the father out of

0:53:43.800 --> 0:53:45.799
<v Speaker 2>the house and the dad's like, I'm not leaving my

0:53:45.960 --> 0:53:49.360
<v Speaker 2>fucking house. And so then Cariese's like hoteler, jail bitch.

0:53:49.760 --> 0:53:51.920
<v Speaker 2>So the mom's crying. She goes, I knew he was

0:53:51.960 --> 0:53:54.520
<v Speaker 2>a self serving guy. I just didn't realize how much.

0:53:55.000 --> 0:53:57.839
<v Speaker 2>So she's crying really hard. Ryan goes upstairs. The mom

0:53:58.040 --> 0:54:01.200
<v Speaker 2>then goes, I knew down. I knew that my husband

0:54:01.280 --> 0:54:03.960
<v Speaker 2>was lying to me all these years. And he watched

0:54:04.000 --> 0:54:09.399
<v Speaker 2>porn on a VR headset. So Ryan's dad gave what

0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:15.000
<v Speaker 2>do a VR headset to his son, which is also

0:54:15.080 --> 0:54:18.960
<v Speaker 2>fucking up his brain even more, and the worst part,

0:54:19.000 --> 0:54:20.880
<v Speaker 2>he was willing to let his own son go to

0:54:20.880 --> 0:54:23.840
<v Speaker 2>prison for him. And Benson's like, well, where's the headsets?

0:54:23.880 --> 0:54:26.200
<v Speaker 2>So now they're searching in the dumpsters and Velasko's like

0:54:26.320 --> 0:54:28.880
<v Speaker 2>deep into the trash bins, but like in a fresh

0:54:28.880 --> 0:54:32.040
<v Speaker 2>white T shirt in the garbage, like and he does

0:54:32.080 --> 0:54:34.600
<v Speaker 2>look hought if I'm being honest. So then Benson walks

0:54:34.600 --> 0:54:38.600
<v Speaker 2>into Cariese's office. Okay, there's choking porn on headsets, so

0:54:38.719 --> 0:54:41.880
<v Speaker 2>we got him. So it's like he weaponized porn and

0:54:42.120 --> 0:54:44.560
<v Speaker 2>to like turn his son into a man. It's like

0:54:44.640 --> 0:54:46.719
<v Speaker 2>handing a gun to a kid. That's what we'll charge

0:54:46.760 --> 0:54:49.000
<v Speaker 2>him on. But it's still child in danger. They can't

0:54:49.040 --> 0:54:51.600
<v Speaker 2>do like, they can't do anything, so maybe they could

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:54.279
<v Speaker 2>trick him. So we're in the marble hallway, we're talking

0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:56.040
<v Speaker 2>to the dad, and the dads like, fuck you, I

0:54:56.080 --> 0:54:58.960
<v Speaker 2>did nothing wrong, and Benson goes, you really think your

0:54:59.000 --> 0:55:01.319
<v Speaker 2>son would have choked the girl he loves the night

0:55:01.400 --> 0:55:04.799
<v Speaker 2>of their virginity taking away, like you think if you

0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.200
<v Speaker 2>didn't show him that, And he goes, okay, so my

0:55:08.280 --> 0:55:10.759
<v Speaker 2>son got confused, but that's on him, not me.

0:55:12.400 --> 0:55:14.160
<v Speaker 1>So it's yours fun. It's your son's fault.

0:55:14.239 --> 0:55:16.360
<v Speaker 4>You showed him something super fucked up And we're like,

0:55:16.360 --> 0:55:18.200
<v Speaker 4>why why didn't he get what that was?

0:55:18.719 --> 0:55:21.360
<v Speaker 1>Like yeah, Cursey's screaming. He hates him.

0:55:21.560 --> 0:55:23.640
<v Speaker 2>So he goes, your son's going to stand before a

0:55:23.719 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 2>judge and you're just gonna let that happen. And he goes,

0:55:26.120 --> 0:55:28.160
<v Speaker 2>you failed as a father and teaching him how to

0:55:28.239 --> 0:55:29.799
<v Speaker 2>be a man, and he goes, you want to be

0:55:29.800 --> 0:55:33.480
<v Speaker 2>a real man, take accountability. And then it works. So

0:55:33.520 --> 0:55:36.320
<v Speaker 2>we're and Corey he's confessing. He goes, I was negligent.

0:55:36.400 --> 0:55:38.560
<v Speaker 2>I fucked up teaching him how to behave towards women.

0:55:39.000 --> 0:55:41.720
<v Speaker 2>I showed him a world that demeans women. I failed

0:55:41.760 --> 0:55:44.759
<v Speaker 2>my wife, I failed my son, and there's no way

0:55:44.760 --> 0:55:45.399
<v Speaker 2>this guy did such.

0:55:45.560 --> 0:55:46.920
<v Speaker 1>This is literally the tragic.

0:55:47.200 --> 0:55:50.799
<v Speaker 4>See the reason people watch this show is like for

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:53.200
<v Speaker 4>moments like this that will never exist in real life.

0:55:53.440 --> 0:55:57.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like this was never in a million eire never never.

0:55:58.400 --> 0:56:01.759
<v Speaker 2>I failed the young women that hurt my whole life.

0:56:01.800 --> 0:56:04.359
<v Speaker 2>I've just thrown money at problems but didn't realize the

0:56:04.400 --> 0:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>main problem was me. Yea is no way no who

0:56:08.480 --> 0:56:11.319
<v Speaker 2>wrote that He's not going to jail, but he has

0:56:11.320 --> 0:56:15.120
<v Speaker 2>to go to weekly psychology meetings and assilt prevention classes. Okay,

0:56:15.520 --> 0:56:18.520
<v Speaker 2>The mom thinks Captain Benson and hopes this helps prevent

0:56:18.640 --> 0:56:21.719
<v Speaker 2>like issues in the future. She tells Caresy, good job,

0:56:21.760 --> 0:56:24.279
<v Speaker 2>but he can't wait until Rollins comes back home in

0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:27.960
<v Speaker 2>four hours. But Benson and Creasy go have some whiskey

0:56:27.960 --> 0:56:31.919
<v Speaker 2>in his office. I love a desk cocktail. The wife

0:56:32.000 --> 0:56:34.840
<v Speaker 2>is filing for divorce. Ryan's not speaking to his father.

0:56:35.040 --> 0:56:38.880
<v Speaker 2>Caresy says, good, he deserves to lose his family. Eliza's

0:56:38.920 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 2>parents are going to take him to civil court for

0:56:40.680 --> 0:56:44.720
<v Speaker 2>wrongful death, so that's good, and they think he'll be fired.

0:56:44.960 --> 0:56:48.040
<v Speaker 2>Careasey cheers to justice. Benson goes, is that what we got?

0:56:48.440 --> 0:56:51.120
<v Speaker 2>And he says it's a start, and she answers, sometimes

0:56:51.160 --> 0:56:53.960
<v Speaker 2>that's the best we can do. And they cheers their

0:56:54.000 --> 0:56:57.840
<v Speaker 2>warm whiskey and that's dick wolf baby.

0:56:58.320 --> 0:57:02.640
<v Speaker 1>Oh boy, oh boy.

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, So this thank you for that recap. Thank you

0:57:12.480 --> 0:57:18.040
<v Speaker 4>for that beautiful recap. This episode. It's interesting because I

0:57:18.080 --> 0:57:20.440
<v Speaker 4>started looking around for like a case that could be

0:57:20.480 --> 0:57:22.840
<v Speaker 4>based on, and like, there there was a case I

0:57:22.920 --> 0:57:23.479
<v Speaker 4>found of.

0:57:23.360 --> 0:57:26.840
<v Speaker 2>Like a a of a of a like a very

0:57:26.880 --> 0:57:29.920
<v Speaker 2>disturbed boy who had actually a lot of abuse against

0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:34.640
<v Speaker 2>himself who was assaulting a younger girl for like honestly

0:57:34.720 --> 0:57:37.400
<v Speaker 2>two years because of porn he had been allowed to watch.

0:57:37.440 --> 0:57:39.000
<v Speaker 1>But this is like a little bit.

0:57:38.920 --> 0:57:41.479
<v Speaker 4>More specific, So I'm not even gonna get into that case.

0:57:41.560 --> 0:57:43.960
<v Speaker 4>Like this isn't just about like, oh, porn leads, this

0:57:44.040 --> 0:57:45.720
<v Speaker 4>is like choking specific.

0:57:45.920 --> 0:57:49.720
<v Speaker 2>Like there is a lot of research, Yeah, a lot

0:57:49.720 --> 0:57:53.160
<v Speaker 2>of research and reports started coming out around like two

0:57:53.200 --> 0:57:56.080
<v Speaker 2>thousand and three, two thousand and four, actually like twenty one,

0:57:56.160 --> 0:57:56.640
<v Speaker 2>I would.

0:57:56.480 --> 0:57:57.680
<v Speaker 1>Say, and and and.

0:57:57.560 --> 0:58:02.760
<v Speaker 4>Beyond, like uh, of choking being on the rise with everybody,

0:58:02.760 --> 0:58:07.920
<v Speaker 4>but with young people especially so over the past decade,

0:58:08.200 --> 0:58:12.440
<v Speaker 4>rough sex behaviors have become obviously increasingly more common and

0:58:12.520 --> 0:58:18.080
<v Speaker 4>normalized among young people in the US and internationally. The

0:58:18.120 --> 0:58:23.840
<v Speaker 4>most striking change they've found is with non fatal strangulation

0:58:24.080 --> 0:58:27.480
<v Speaker 4>aka choking, which they put in quotes maybe because it's

0:58:27.520 --> 0:58:30.640
<v Speaker 4>more of a it's more of a like vernacular to

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:33.720
<v Speaker 4>call it choking, but it is non fatal strangulation, or

0:58:33.760 --> 0:58:36.640
<v Speaker 4>attempts to be, because some people do accidentally kill their

0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:40.640
<v Speaker 4>partners with these with this kind of strangulation and accidentally

0:58:40.720 --> 0:58:47.520
<v Speaker 4>in quotations, please yes, accidentally in quotations, Yes, I mean yes.

0:58:49.280 --> 0:58:49.840
<v Speaker 1>They.

0:58:51.560 --> 0:58:55.000
<v Speaker 4>And this is often non fatal strangulation is depicted a

0:58:55.040 --> 0:58:58.640
<v Speaker 4>lot in honestly at this point mainstream media and pornography,

0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:04.920
<v Speaker 4>there is a lot of concern about it being used

0:59:05.000 --> 0:59:08.320
<v Speaker 4>not only in conceptual in consensual sex, but in violent pornography,

0:59:08.400 --> 0:59:12.320
<v Speaker 4>and also adolescents will do like choking games, you know,

0:59:12.520 --> 0:59:15.200
<v Speaker 4>like that's kind of a thing you do, you know when.

0:59:15.080 --> 0:59:20.480
<v Speaker 2>You're so funny, I'm acting so appalled. Me and my

0:59:20.520 --> 0:59:22.920
<v Speaker 2>friends choked each other out against so well and videotaped

0:59:22.960 --> 0:59:23.920
<v Speaker 2>and would watch videos.

0:59:24.000 --> 0:59:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, like at sleepovers. Yeah, so that's like what they're

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:28.000
<v Speaker 1>talking about those swim team.

0:59:27.880 --> 0:59:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Girls and I were choking each other out weekly against

0:59:30.960 --> 0:59:31.320
<v Speaker 2>the walls.

0:59:31.480 --> 0:59:38.040
<v Speaker 1>Ah, yeah, and this has health consequences and can we

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:40.520
<v Speaker 1>want but we wanted to pass out, sure, But I

0:59:40.560 --> 0:59:42.320
<v Speaker 1>don't think you would have wanted brain damage if that

0:59:42.360 --> 0:59:46.200
<v Speaker 1>had happened, and it can't yea, it didn't want that. Yeah,

0:59:46.480 --> 0:59:49.200
<v Speaker 1>I was endorsing choking out. I did consent.

0:59:50.440 --> 0:59:52.840
<v Speaker 4>One of the things I read was a doctoral thesis

0:59:52.880 --> 0:59:54.760
<v Speaker 4>from the Karolinska.

0:59:54.200 --> 0:59:56.760
<v Speaker 1>Instituted in UH.

0:59:56.560 --> 1:00:00.000
<v Speaker 4>Sweden, which was published in February of this year. Actually

1:00:00.120 --> 1:00:03.280
<v Speaker 4>that found that physical violence in sexual assaults against young

1:00:03.320 --> 1:00:06.640
<v Speaker 4>people has become more common and more severe. The thesis

1:00:06.760 --> 1:00:10.360
<v Speaker 4>used interviews and medical exam results to look at how

1:00:10.400 --> 1:00:15.360
<v Speaker 4>young people experience violence and sexual situations, both consensual and

1:00:15.520 --> 1:00:18.520
<v Speaker 4>in assault situations. Among young women between the ages of

1:00:18.560 --> 1:00:20.720
<v Speaker 4>sixteen and twenty nine. In the research, there was a

1:00:20.760 --> 1:00:24.240
<v Speaker 4>clear increase in severe violence during assaults, and they found

1:00:24.280 --> 1:00:27.960
<v Speaker 4>that strangulation had become a lot more common. Participants described

1:00:28.040 --> 1:00:31.560
<v Speaker 4>how social media, friends and pornography influence their perception of

1:00:31.560 --> 1:00:35.320
<v Speaker 4>what is quote unquote normal in sexual situations. According to

1:00:35.400 --> 1:00:38.200
<v Speaker 4>the results of this thesis, better procedures are needed within

1:00:38.640 --> 1:00:42.840
<v Speaker 4>healthcare to identify and deal with strangulation violence, and as always,

1:00:42.880 --> 1:00:46.080
<v Speaker 4>there needs to be more education about consent in schools,

1:00:46.360 --> 1:00:49.200
<v Speaker 4>with a focus on communications, boundaries, and power.

1:00:50.280 --> 1:00:52.920
<v Speaker 1>A twenty twenty it's like so basic to be like, yes,

1:00:52.960 --> 1:00:55.040
<v Speaker 1>sex is about two people, and it's like, I guess

1:00:55.160 --> 1:00:59.840
<v Speaker 1>that's never been on the curriculum. Yeah, or it could

1:00:59.840 --> 1:01:02.160
<v Speaker 1>be more, well, we get into it. We'll get into

1:01:02.200 --> 1:01:02.480
<v Speaker 1>it later.

1:01:02.520 --> 1:01:04.200
<v Speaker 2>But there's like this whole thing where boys are like, no,

1:01:04.360 --> 1:01:07.760
<v Speaker 2>girls love it, girls like it, And it's like, okay,

1:01:08.160 --> 1:01:10.680
<v Speaker 2>let's talk about what it looks like when someone loves

1:01:10.760 --> 1:01:15.640
<v Speaker 2>or likes something, Like it's not them sitting there silent

1:01:15.960 --> 1:01:19.760
<v Speaker 2>or frozen or unable with their eyes bugging out, you know,

1:01:19.920 --> 1:01:21.520
<v Speaker 2>like they have to be able to be telling you

1:01:21.600 --> 1:01:25.240
<v Speaker 2>how how they like it, you know. So A twenty

1:01:25.360 --> 1:01:28.240
<v Speaker 2>twenty US survey of university students reported that twenty six

1:01:28.320 --> 1:01:30.600
<v Speaker 2>point five percent of women and six point six percent

1:01:30.640 --> 1:01:33.600
<v Speaker 2>of men, and twenty two point three percent of transgender

1:01:33.640 --> 1:01:36.680
<v Speaker 2>and nine binary participants had been choked during their most

1:01:36.680 --> 1:01:37.800
<v Speaker 2>recent sexual event.

1:01:38.360 --> 1:01:40.120
<v Speaker 1>So that's pretty high numbers.

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<v Speaker 4>A quarter people said the last time they hooked, A

1:01:42.120 --> 1:01:45.280
<v Speaker 4>quarter of women and almost a quarter of non binary

1:01:45.360 --> 1:01:49.200
<v Speaker 4>and transgender participants say oh, yeah, the last.

1:01:48.920 --> 1:01:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Time I hooked up, choking was involved.

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<v Speaker 4>So, according to research out of Indiana University, sex involving

1:01:55.440 --> 1:01:59.320
<v Speaker 4>choking usually isn't discussed ahead of time, does not include

1:01:59.320 --> 1:02:02.880
<v Speaker 4>a safe word, offers no sense of partnership, and results

1:02:02.880 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 4>in no emotional connection or transcendence, is what they say.

1:02:07.680 --> 1:02:08.720
<v Speaker 1>In twenty twenty.

1:02:08.480 --> 1:02:10.840
<v Speaker 4>Four, the UK is actually ahead of us on the

1:02:10.920 --> 1:02:13.240
<v Speaker 4>on a lot of this. In twenty twenty four, the

1:02:13.240 --> 1:02:15.840
<v Speaker 4>BBC published an article about how young boys were asking

1:02:15.880 --> 1:02:20.880
<v Speaker 4>their teachers about choking during sex. Doctor Tamsine Priest was

1:02:20.880 --> 1:02:24.280
<v Speaker 4>a teacher in Bridge and said some children now felt

1:02:24.280 --> 1:02:26.320
<v Speaker 4>it was normal, a normal part of sex, and asked

1:02:26.320 --> 1:02:29.120
<v Speaker 4>if quote unquote unquote a soft squeeze on the neck

1:02:29.200 --> 1:02:31.560
<v Speaker 4>is okay, And they were asking questions like how can

1:02:31.600 --> 1:02:35.520
<v Speaker 4>I choke someone safely? She said, quote I've certainly been

1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:37.959
<v Speaker 4>told by some children that they think that girls really

1:02:38.000 --> 1:02:40.680
<v Speaker 4>want to be choked, with one saying girls are mad

1:02:40.760 --> 1:02:44.800
<v Speaker 4>for it. So someone's giving them that information and it's

1:02:44.840 --> 1:02:48.600
<v Speaker 4>you know, it's probably porn health porn.

1:02:48.680 --> 1:02:50.840
<v Speaker 1>I put a few dollars on that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Health experts say pornography is the key contributor and that

1:02:54.520 --> 1:02:58.960
<v Speaker 4>there is no safe way to strangle someone because I

1:02:59.000 --> 1:03:01.520
<v Speaker 4>mean because some can change their mind halfway through and

1:03:01.560 --> 1:03:04.480
<v Speaker 4>they can't communicate to you that they don't want it anymore,

1:03:04.560 --> 1:03:08.520
<v Speaker 4>you know. Doctor Kate Howells, an associate specialist in sexual health,

1:03:08.600 --> 1:03:11.080
<v Speaker 4>told the BBC she believes instant access to porn for

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<v Speaker 4>anyone with a phone.

1:03:11.960 --> 1:03:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Is a key factor.

1:03:13.080 --> 1:03:15.400
<v Speaker 4>She says, quote, people are watching it from a very

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<v Speaker 4>young age, and what I was reading is that in

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<v Speaker 4>the US and UK at least eleven eleven years old

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<v Speaker 4>is usually when kids are first exposed to it, and

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<v Speaker 4>that's the average, so it can be younger or older.

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<v Speaker 4>Kate Howell says people are watching it from a very

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<v Speaker 4>young age and for a lot of young people it

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<v Speaker 4>is their first sexual experience and therefore they're almost looking

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<v Speaker 4>to porn to learn about sex and what to do

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<v Speaker 4>to be good at sex.

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<v Speaker 2>If you no one's like telling them it's like fantasy

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<v Speaker 2>or something, you know what I mean, or that they've

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<v Speaker 2>acted out, it's like choreographed. You know, of course you're

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<v Speaker 2>not gonna be good at it. You've never done this

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<v Speaker 2>before and on limits and like they have safe work,

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<v Speaker 2>you know what I mean like like well, or you

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<v Speaker 2>hope you would hope?

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, you hope.

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<v Speaker 2>She continues, If young people are seeing that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>messaging from pornography, rather than loving or caring respectful messages,

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<v Speaker 2>then they'll think that that's what they need to do,

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<v Speaker 2>whether they feel comfortable with it or not. So in

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<v Speaker 2>twenty twenty five, the UK actually made moves to make

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<v Speaker 2>porn that depicts choking illegal, and I'm not sure if

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<v Speaker 2>it actually went through, but Andrea Simon, director of the

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<v Speaker 2>End Violence against Women Coalition, described this as quote a

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<v Speaker 2>vital step towards tackling the normalization of violence and online content.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, quote, there is no such thing as safe strangulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Women cannot consent to the long term cars cause it

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<v Speaker 2>can harm, including impaired cognitive functioning and memory. Its widespread

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<v Speaker 2>portrayal and porn is fueling dangerous behaviors, particularly among young people.

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<v Speaker 1>I watched this webinar.

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<v Speaker 4>There was a like almost two hour robinar that I

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<v Speaker 4>watched from this guy named Casey Gwynn, who used to

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<v Speaker 4>be like the city attorney for San Diego and is

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<v Speaker 4>the founder of Alliance for Hope International, which is like

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<v Speaker 4>a They do a lot of work with like sexual assaults.

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<v Speaker 4>And they also had this one a named doctor Debbie

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<v Speaker 4>Herbenick on the webinar. It was really funny too because

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<v Speaker 4>at one point this other lady was on the webinar

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<v Speaker 4>and she was going, can you guys see my PowerPoint?

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<v Speaker 4>Can you see it now? Like it was literally just

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<v Speaker 4>a full power point like with all of the people,

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<v Speaker 4>but most of it was like went really smoothly. And

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<v Speaker 4>doctor Debbie Herbenick is actually a professor at Indiana University

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<v Speaker 4>School of Public Health, so I wonder if she's where

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<v Speaker 4>that earlier information came from. And an internationally recognized sexuality

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<v Speaker 4>researcher and author of the book Yes Your Kid, What

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<v Speaker 4>Parents Need to Know about Today's teens and Sex. And

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<v Speaker 4>she focuses on sexual choking like that's her focus, Like

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<v Speaker 4>and it.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a thing.

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<v Speaker 2>It's definitely like, what all these numbers are so accurate?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well you also know that like whenever it's like

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<v Speaker 4>a men's percentage, it's like double it because there a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of them are probably just fucking lying. But they

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<v Speaker 4>discuss us how in this webinar, how a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>young people like are going straight for choking in sexual

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<v Speaker 4>situations like sometimes it's like hug kiss, choke, like immediately.

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<v Speaker 4>Doctor Herbenick discusses the health implications such as brain damage, stroke,

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<v Speaker 4>cardiac arrest, and while it is rare, people have died

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<v Speaker 4>or been put into a coma from, you know, sexual strangulation,

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<v Speaker 4>and the average young adult surveyed said that they first

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<v Speaker 4>heard about sexual choking around eight to fifty about around

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<v Speaker 4>age fifteen, which again she says that can be a

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<v Speaker 4>lot younger or older because it's the average. They want

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<v Speaker 4>information that they're often not getting. And then Yvonne K. Fulbright,

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<v Speaker 4>who's a PhD and Master of Science and Education, wrote

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<v Speaker 4>in Psychology Today that schools need to address sexual illiteracy,

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<v Speaker 4>including porn literacy, and an examination of cultural standards and

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<v Speaker 4>perceive normalcy from all sources of information. This does not

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<v Speaker 4>mean like that formal sex education in school has to

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<v Speaker 4>be like a how to of how to have sex

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<v Speaker 4>in a like well or.

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<v Speaker 1>What if it is? But what if it is?

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, why are we not basing these classes on

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<v Speaker 2>the needs of the students, Because if they're constantly asking

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<v Speaker 2>in these numbers and these girls or a constantly are

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<v Speaker 2>getting choked, it's like who gives a shit?

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<v Speaker 1>What you think or not.

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<v Speaker 2>That's something of these abstinate, like all these idiots. It's

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<v Speaker 2>like the thing is already happening. Whatever chicken and egg

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<v Speaker 2>you're doing, it's they're fucking and that's why you need

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<v Speaker 2>to talk about it. Yeah, you know what I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>Like I think they're they're basically saying, like we know,

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<v Speaker 2>like sex said, teachers are not going to sit there

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<v Speaker 2>and go, here's how you safely choke a partner, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>like they're no, it's about consent. It's don't choke someone.

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<v Speaker 2>They're not gonna be able to say yes or no

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<v Speaker 2>like you. That's like porn isn't real like everything it's.

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<v Speaker 4>It would have been great to teach people about porn,

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<v Speaker 4>Like I never got that in sex said that to

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<v Speaker 4>anyone to say, like, by the way, the way that

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<v Speaker 4>sex happens, even in mainstream movies.

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<v Speaker 1>Is not always accurate. The way that it happens in

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<v Speaker 1>porn is not accurate.

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<v Speaker 4>Like this is not you need to live up to

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<v Speaker 4>or learn from, you know, but uh yeah, Doctor Herbinnik

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<v Speaker 4>in this webinar also goes on to talk about how

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<v Speaker 4>a lot of young men don't even know that there

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<v Speaker 4>are legal consequences, which I thought was interesting based on

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<v Speaker 4>the episode, like when well they didn't know, like they

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<v Speaker 4>were like, no, but if the girl likes it, because

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<v Speaker 4>they were talking in the webinar about how like there

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<v Speaker 4>are there they they talk to some people who were like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>then I would be like choking my partner and I

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<v Speaker 4>would stop because it looked like they weren't enjoying themselves.

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<v Speaker 1>They'd be like what are you doing?

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<v Speaker 4>Keep going and it's like, Okay, that's communication exactly, And.

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<v Speaker 2>That's where I was want to say, it all just

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<v Speaker 2>goes back down to like consent and having nonverbal like

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<v Speaker 2>safe words yeah and all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>Like they're at it's like all of these but how

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<v Speaker 1>do I know? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, how will I ever know? How do I work

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<v Speaker 4>this robot? It won't talk back to me? And she

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<v Speaker 4>was saying yeah that, like yeah, these they were bringing

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<v Speaker 4>up to these young men that they were interviewing, like yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>people have gone to jail for accidentally killing their partners

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<v Speaker 4>during like choke sexual choking, and these like young men

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<v Speaker 4>like had no idea about that and like did not

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<v Speaker 4>know that there were like legal consequences. So I just

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<v Speaker 4>thought in the context of this episode, which I do

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<v Speaker 4>like SBU is a lot of times always trying to

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<v Speaker 4>and the man in this episode is an absolute dirt bag,

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<v Speaker 4>but they are always trying to be like, Well, the parents,

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<v Speaker 4>it's like giving them a gun, telling them this, it's

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<v Speaker 4>like giving them a gun or doing this. So if

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<v Speaker 4>your parent, if if you're gonna either leave them alone

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<v Speaker 4>with a phone or a computer, then it is kind

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<v Speaker 4>of like giving them a gun. So they need the

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<v Speaker 4>education somehow, whether it's in school or through their parents.

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<v Speaker 4>About I mean, I'm in this group on Facebook called

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<v Speaker 4>Parenting in a Tech World.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I've talked about it on here before.

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<v Speaker 2>It's huge. It has like sixty six thousand parents in it.

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<v Speaker 2>And I am learning so fucking much every day in

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<v Speaker 2>this thing. Like there's shit that people will go Spotify's

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<v Speaker 2>okay for kids, right, and I go and in my mind,

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<v Speaker 2>I go, oh, yeah, what's wrong with Spotify.

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<v Speaker 4>There's fucking porn all over Spotify. People make playlists on

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<v Speaker 4>Spotify where they put their phone numbers in and you

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<v Speaker 4>can text and you can sext with people. People will

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<v Speaker 4>write stuff like what about cap cut? Is cap cut okay?

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<v Speaker 4>And I'm like, yeah, what could be wrong with cap cut.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just like an editing tool. Nope, there's like chat

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<v Speaker 4>features and all this shit. There's ways to go into these.

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<v Speaker 4>It basically takes you to TikTok so that you can

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<v Speaker 4>copy people's formats and then once you're there, you can

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<v Speaker 4>see anything you want on TikTok. All of these apps

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<v Speaker 4>are about making money and none of them are about

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<v Speaker 4>protecting kids or young people from seeing this shit. So

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<v Speaker 4>it's very interesting to me when they're like, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>kids are seeing porn around eleven, and it's like, I

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<v Speaker 4>bet it's even fucking younger, Like I think kids are

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<v Speaker 4>seeing weird shit all the time if you give your

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<v Speaker 4>kid a phone or an iPad that doesn't have parental

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<v Speaker 4>controls on it. And in this group, people are constantly

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<v Speaker 4>like I don't understand, like I have the parental controls set,

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<v Speaker 4>but XYZ is not working. And it's like, because the

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<v Speaker 4>kids are smarter than you, they will figure out the

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<v Speaker 4>ways around the controls, like they just will like and

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<v Speaker 4>apparently Apple has like the worst parental controls, like I

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<v Speaker 4>think Droid the androids are better, but like people will

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<v Speaker 4>be like, I have the phone locked down after midnight?

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<v Speaker 4>Why does this show my my son on TikTok at

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<v Speaker 4>one am, and it's like they know.

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<v Speaker 1>What to do.

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<v Speaker 4>They know how to like go on airplane or do this,

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<v Speaker 4>or get on a different wife or like whatever.

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<v Speaker 1>They can figure it out. Like so it's really scary

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<v Speaker 1>out there.

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<v Speaker 4>But definitely we have to educate our children about consent

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<v Speaker 4>and peorn literacy and all of these things. So no actual,

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<v Speaker 4>no actual like specific crime. But I definitely think this

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<v Speaker 4>episode was based on like the uptick in this and

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<v Speaker 4>all these papers and like articles and things being written

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<v Speaker 4>and interesting that the UK.

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<v Speaker 1>Is planning to try to ban. That was as of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty twenty five, they were trying to ban pornography that

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<v Speaker 1>portrays like choking, sexual choking, check sexual strangulation.

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<v Speaker 2>Because it's not about things existing, because if you want

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<v Speaker 2>to get fucking chokes, you should really get choked. But

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<v Speaker 2>it's like that there's more to this, right It's yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>and I guess it's.

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<v Speaker 4>Kind of the only I mean, I'm trying to I'm

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<v Speaker 4>trying to like rack my brain. I'm like, what's another

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<v Speaker 4>thing that could accidentally kill someone during sex besides chokes?

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<v Speaker 1>Mostly the airways?

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, right, it's the airways, Like you're not anything can

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<v Speaker 4>happen to your butt?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't know if it's an urban legend

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<v Speaker 2>or not, but it's like someone trying to like masturbate

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<v Speaker 2>with the broom and then they slipped off the shower

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<v Speaker 2>and then the broom went through them.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, I can't imagine that being real.

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<v Speaker 2>No, case can you please look up broom masturbate death.

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<v Speaker 1>I would love to see that. Okay, it's on snopespes.

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<v Speaker 1>That's what I was gonna say, Casey, what's up.

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<v Speaker 5>From two thousand and three? Did a co ed die

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<v Speaker 5>pleasuring herself with a broom?

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<v Speaker 1>Claim?

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<v Speaker 5>Let's see a story that I heard that was kind

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<v Speaker 5>of like a hot dog one was that there was

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<v Speaker 5>this girl who got drunk at a party. When she

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<v Speaker 5>went home, she was really horny, so she used the

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<v Speaker 5>broom to pleasure yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess it doesn't be a wooden broom. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>see any verifications, but I don't want anyone going that way.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's out there. The story is out there. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you didn't like make that up? I didn't, damn well anyway.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, write us in if there what other ways

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<v Speaker 2>you can immediately die?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean you could, I guess, break your neck. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm trying to think if it, if it, if it

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<v Speaker 1>could happen, it has happened on the shoe. Yeah, Banana

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<v Speaker 1>in the butt. He was allergic to bananas.

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<v Speaker 2>Banana in the butt, Yes, yes, yeah, I think if

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<v Speaker 2>you let things go in your inside of you and

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<v Speaker 2>forget about them and then maybe they can cause an

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<v Speaker 2>infection or disease, Like if you do stick a banana

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<v Speaker 2>and and the remnant stays and then bacteria forms.

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<v Speaker 1>You probably figure out the symptoms before that.

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<v Speaker 4>But but again, a lot of that is like being

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<v Speaker 4>done by you'r. It's like being done you're by you,

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<v Speaker 4>you know. Yeah, and this is interesting. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 4>I assumed that, like with the rise of pornography, that

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<v Speaker 4>like sexual violence, slapping, you know, that kind of stuff

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<v Speaker 4>like would be spanking, would be more prevalent. But it's

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<v Speaker 4>interesting that, like the choking specifically, and that that SPU

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<v Speaker 4>kind of like jumped on this episode.

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<v Speaker 1>It was interesting to like do a little bit of

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<v Speaker 1>research on it.

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<v Speaker 2>But uh, yeah, everyone be careful out there, be careful

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<v Speaker 2>out there.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's move on to our guests. Huh. I'm so excited.

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<v Speaker 4>Our guest today is an actor who you may know

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<v Speaker 4>from Excuse Me, The Wet American Summer Universe, the movie,

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<v Speaker 4>the TV show. He's also had roles on VEEP and Revolution,

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<v Speaker 4>but you know him today as defense attorney Harry Kagan.

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<v Speaker 4>Please enjoy our chat with the delightful Zach Orth. Hi, Zach,

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<v Speaker 4>We're really excited.

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<v Speaker 6>Thank you same here. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 4>Obviously want to talk to you about your Law and

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<v Speaker 4>Order Universe appearances, but also other fans of their work.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, oh, well, you're in.

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<v Speaker 2>One of my favorite scenes in VEEP and I quote

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<v Speaker 2>it all the time. It's like you and Mike and

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<v Speaker 2>you guys are You're like, should we drink? And he's like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I can't. And then it's like, can you imagine we

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<v Speaker 2>love to drink.

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<v Speaker 6>I have to go home and see my family or

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<v Speaker 6>something like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, can you imagine?

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, I like, do you imagine?

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<v Speaker 2>I quote it all the time. It's really outstanding. What

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<v Speaker 2>was your time on VIEP like that? It was amazing, Like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, i'd loved the show. I think that when

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<v Speaker 2>they were getting ready to start making it, I think

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<v Speaker 2>I I auditioned for every single role and uh, but

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<v Speaker 2>obviously didn't get it. And then I don't know, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't remember how far along they were into it. It

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<v Speaker 2>was like season four or something like that. I think

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<v Speaker 2>it was the last season that they were in Baltimore.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was I was just I was delighted. I

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<v Speaker 2>was over the moon.

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<v Speaker 6>And it was everything I would have hoped it was,

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<v Speaker 6>you know, like a lot of really really funny people

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<v Speaker 6>like you know, operating at full capacity and and very

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<v Speaker 6>you know, collaborative, and and it was. It was tremendous.

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<v Speaker 6>It was great.

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<v Speaker 1>A lot of crab did what did you eat a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of crab while you.

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<v Speaker 6>Were there in in in Marrit Is that part of

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<v Speaker 6>your memory or I don't remember. I don't remember doing that.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean I know I I did. I did go

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<v Speaker 6>to an Orioles game.

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<v Speaker 1>On the water, Yes, yes, yeah, Okay, Cara would know.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just, I was just.

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<v Speaker 4>All I was going to say was that, like the like,

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<v Speaker 4>I just need to rewatch it. I feel like there's

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<v Speaker 4>no way I got every single joke was always on

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<v Speaker 4>in the background for me. Well, there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>different things on, but that is one of them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 4>So we wanted to talk to you about obviously your SVU.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, the episode that we're covering today is constricted

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<v Speaker 4>where you're playing.

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<v Speaker 1>And you're going to come back right. You feel like I.

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<v Speaker 6>Have no idea. They don't tell They don't tell me

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<v Speaker 6>at least.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I can't believe you're the same, you're this lawyer

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<v Speaker 2>and original recipe as well.

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<v Speaker 6>Yes, yes, that's that's that's what.

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<v Speaker 1>We called the regular law and Order.

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<v Speaker 6>Sorry, the Mothership.

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<v Speaker 1>The yeah, the mother Show.

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<v Speaker 6>That's where that's where it started. I think in season

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<v Speaker 6>twenty two that they know I had been on. I

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<v Speaker 6>had been in like season five or something, and then

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<v Speaker 6>and then I was they called out of nowhere and

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<v Speaker 6>were like, Uh, you're going to play a one of

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<v Speaker 6>the attorneys. I was like, Oh, that's awesome. That's feels

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<v Speaker 6>like it feels like a real you know, milestone, you know,

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<v Speaker 6>for like an actor in New York. And but I

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<v Speaker 6>didn't think, you know, that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 6>like anything to do with like being in the roster,

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<v Speaker 6>like the rotation of lawyers or whatever. That didn't occur

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<v Speaker 6>to me, I don't think until later on.

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<v Speaker 2>And you're kind you kind of seem expensive. You think, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>because the dad's like a sad dad in this one,

1:18:27.520 --> 1:18:30.960
<v Speaker 2>is a big I feel like you're not a cheap lawyer.

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<v Speaker 2>Who do you do you remember who you defending? These

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<v Speaker 2>two episodes of Mothership, are you like, are you going

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<v Speaker 2>with guys that are innocent or dix?

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<v Speaker 5>Uh?

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<v Speaker 6>The first one I believe I'm getting this right because

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<v Speaker 6>it was season twenty two and twenty three, and one

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<v Speaker 6>of them was I was defending a member of a cult,

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<v Speaker 6>like a nexium like cult, who had who had engaged

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<v Speaker 6>in next see him like behavior like doss behavior. So

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<v Speaker 6>I don't know. You can make of that what you will.

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<v Speaker 6>That was defending that person. That was the second one,

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<v Speaker 6>I think, And then but the first one was uh,

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<v Speaker 6>A a comedian had been I had got killed on

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<v Speaker 6>the subway and he happened to be a person of

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<v Speaker 6>color and the person who killed him was a racist.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, but that all came out later in the

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<v Speaker 6>I don't. I don't pitch stories to anybody because he's

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<v Speaker 6>that bad at it.

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<v Speaker 1>But you defended the killer.

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<v Speaker 2>I defended the killer, Yes, So I wouldn't say anybody

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<v Speaker 2>any of your defend Your clients have been great people

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<v Speaker 2>so far.

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<v Speaker 1>Cult leader rast.

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<v Speaker 6>I don't, I don't think so, and and that and

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<v Speaker 6>that continue.

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<v Speaker 4>He gives his kid choking porn and says, have at it.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, no, that that was yeah, yeah, that's really

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<v Speaker 6>really sleazy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's so and then to keep I mean what hit

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<v Speaker 2>me was then the mom's like he was gonna let

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<v Speaker 2>his kid go to prison for him, Like I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>and like you do one things, how you do everything?

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<v Speaker 2>But what we were saying, it's such a fantasy that

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<v Speaker 2>the guy learned a lesson and gave that lovely speech

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<v Speaker 2>at the end, we're like, no fucking universe.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, like weirdly like which weirdly I think is like

1:20:19.120 --> 1:20:22.760
<v Speaker 6>given like almost directly to camera, Like yeah, it's like

1:20:22.880 --> 1:20:25.880
<v Speaker 6>it's a very weird. It's like I've learned my lesson

1:20:26.000 --> 1:20:29.080
<v Speaker 6>and they it's like it was very out of it.

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<v Speaker 4>Like the director like looked at him and goes look

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<v Speaker 4>into the camera and just talk to every woman who

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<v Speaker 4>just wants to hear this from right hand.

1:20:36.120 --> 1:20:40.280
<v Speaker 1>Because I only cared about money, I only cared about myself.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm an assholes that to mean women. Yeah, the words.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like in my head, there's no way, there's

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<v Speaker 2>no way he wrote it. I feel like you must

1:20:46.720 --> 1:20:51.400
<v Speaker 2>have written it, like your character, right, your first sess

1:20:51.560 --> 1:20:53.800
<v Speaker 2>view is wild though the.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes yes, which did you Maloney?

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<v Speaker 2>Like did you know Maloney for what hot you recognize?

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<v Speaker 6>It was a nice vibe. It was a nice vibe,

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<v Speaker 6>but it also was was one of through no fault

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<v Speaker 6>of Maloney's. I don't know what it was, but it

1:21:12.160 --> 1:21:15.479
<v Speaker 6>it it Immediately while it was happening, I was like, oh,

1:21:15.520 --> 1:21:18.360
<v Speaker 6>this is not going well. Just one of the days really,

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<v Speaker 6>and it became it became sort of a a go

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<v Speaker 6>to story for me, which was just basically I don't

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<v Speaker 6>know what it was, but it was like the scene

1:21:28.040 --> 1:21:33.080
<v Speaker 6>where I I think they questioned me twice or they

1:21:33.120 --> 1:21:35.120
<v Speaker 6>questioned me at least once. They questioned me once in

1:21:35.200 --> 1:21:38.800
<v Speaker 6>the in the interrogation room, and it like starts with

1:21:38.920 --> 1:21:43.880
<v Speaker 6>Maloney and and Marishka and and uh and then you

1:21:43.920 --> 1:21:46.400
<v Speaker 6>know they're like pushing like the scarf that I had

1:21:46.479 --> 1:21:50.240
<v Speaker 6>left behind or something at me and they're like you

1:21:50.240 --> 1:21:53.120
<v Speaker 6>you know you you're not telling us the truth. You know,

1:21:53.400 --> 1:21:57.479
<v Speaker 6>I had my character had slept with a girl that

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<v Speaker 6>he liked without noing that she had been like roof feed.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we just we just covered this episode and we

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<v Speaker 4>talked to Tammy Blanche, the actress that plays the victim.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh okay, okay, yeah, so you know this was the

1:22:12.520 --> 1:22:17.320
<v Speaker 6>scene where like sort of like you're either kind of

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<v Speaker 6>I'm either kind of admitting you're not admitting that I knew,

1:22:20.760 --> 1:22:23.160
<v Speaker 6>but like you know that like that like oh my god,

1:22:23.240 --> 1:22:27.799
<v Speaker 6>I I I this is messed up. Yeah, Like and

1:22:27.800 --> 1:22:32.800
<v Speaker 6>and for whatever reason, like I knew what I was,

1:22:32.840 --> 1:22:36.920
<v Speaker 6>what my job was there as an actor, and like

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<v Speaker 6>just from the jump, my recollection was that like we

1:22:40.200 --> 1:22:43.160
<v Speaker 6>did the first take and then there was like a

1:22:43.280 --> 1:22:46.200
<v Speaker 6>chill settled over the room, and then like the director

1:22:46.840 --> 1:22:51.960
<v Speaker 6>and Maloney and Mariska Hargate like would set up this

1:22:52.040 --> 1:22:54.920
<v Speaker 6>pattern then of going into a huddle after every take

1:22:55.080 --> 1:23:00.559
<v Speaker 6>and like talking to each other being like looking over now,

1:23:00.640 --> 1:23:03.080
<v Speaker 6>like coming over, and then the director would be like,

1:23:04.160 --> 1:23:07.040
<v Speaker 6>all right, well let's stride again. Let's just ride again.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, But why wouldn't they give you I.

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<v Speaker 6>Don't remember all you like they may have maybe, but

1:23:14.760 --> 1:23:17.760
<v Speaker 6>like I just like you sort of shored out in

1:23:17.800 --> 1:23:20.240
<v Speaker 6>that moment because like you're a guest in their house,

1:23:20.280 --> 1:23:23.120
<v Speaker 6>and like I was fairly young. I mean I'd been

1:23:23.120 --> 1:23:25.679
<v Speaker 6>doing this for a while, but like you know, it's

1:23:25.720 --> 1:23:29.719
<v Speaker 6>not a good feeling and Also, it was weird because

1:23:30.040 --> 1:23:32.160
<v Speaker 6>it wasn't like I was like, oh my god, they're right,

1:23:32.280 --> 1:23:35.479
<v Speaker 6>I'm screwing this up. It was sort of like I'm

1:23:35.600 --> 1:23:38.000
<v Speaker 6>doing it. I don't know, like tell me what you need,

1:23:38.439 --> 1:23:40.479
<v Speaker 6>tell me what you need. I don't I don't know.

1:23:40.920 --> 1:23:42.840
<v Speaker 6>But it went on and on and on like this,

1:23:43.560 --> 1:23:48.840
<v Speaker 6>and I feel like Maloney kind of was sort of

1:23:49.080 --> 1:23:51.640
<v Speaker 6>also being like come on, buddy, come on buddy, or

1:23:51.720 --> 1:23:55.000
<v Speaker 6>you know, being encouraging. But it culminated and finally like

1:23:55.040 --> 1:23:57.360
<v Speaker 6>this was the last time, and they were like, all right,

1:23:57.400 --> 1:23:59.600
<v Speaker 6>well we're gonna try one more time, and no matter what,

1:23:59.640 --> 1:24:00.200
<v Speaker 6>we're moving on.

1:24:00.320 --> 1:24:02.840
<v Speaker 1>But with that's like insanity.

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<v Speaker 6>It was very weird, like I'm I'm And so maybe

1:24:07.120 --> 1:24:11.240
<v Speaker 6>that was part of may yeah, because look what I

1:24:11.560 --> 1:24:14.919
<v Speaker 6>wrote far offstair, incredible mental trickery.

1:24:15.040 --> 1:24:18.480
<v Speaker 1>They might have been like.

1:24:20.320 --> 1:24:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Wrote like our twiddling of the thumb in the clasps hands.

1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:24.800
<v Speaker 2>I wonder if that was a choice or direction, but

1:24:24.840 --> 1:24:26.600
<v Speaker 2>I guess you did it and they hated it.

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<v Speaker 3>I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 6>I think to my distant memory of it is that

1:24:30.840 --> 1:24:35.320
<v Speaker 6>it had something to do with don't cry, but give

1:24:35.400 --> 1:24:38.920
<v Speaker 6>us something crying adjacent or something. I don't know what.

1:24:39.360 --> 1:24:43.559
<v Speaker 6>It got very like technical and picky, the point being

1:24:44.120 --> 1:24:46.599
<v Speaker 6>that we get to this last one and like they

1:24:46.640 --> 1:24:50.640
<v Speaker 6>do their last huddle, and like Marishka in my recollection

1:24:50.720 --> 1:24:53.120
<v Speaker 6>of it was like, let me talk to him. And

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<v Speaker 6>she came over and she like, you know, grasp me

1:24:56.280 --> 1:24:58.600
<v Speaker 6>very nicely, sweetly by the shoulders and looked into my

1:24:58.680 --> 1:25:02.640
<v Speaker 6>eyes and goes, you can do this, and like what

1:25:02.760 --> 1:25:06.240
<v Speaker 6>And I was like, Okay, thank you. That's very nice.

1:25:06.240 --> 1:25:08.960
<v Speaker 6>But also I feel so weird right now. None of

1:25:09.000 --> 1:25:11.280
<v Speaker 6>the rest of it felt like that to my recollection,

1:25:11.400 --> 1:25:14.559
<v Speaker 6>but that's it was. It was a very like gas

1:25:14.640 --> 1:25:19.000
<v Speaker 6>lighty weird thing that at least tell me what generated

1:25:19.040 --> 1:25:20.280
<v Speaker 6>by me and my own.

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder if they were fucking with you to get

1:25:23.000 --> 1:25:23.800
<v Speaker 1>this performance.

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<v Speaker 6>That never occurred to me, but but until you just

1:25:27.360 --> 1:25:29.320
<v Speaker 6>brought it up very well could have been. I mean,

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<v Speaker 6>I'm fine with it. I wasn't like traumatized or anything.

1:25:32.120 --> 1:25:35.120
<v Speaker 6>I was just like, wow, yeah, yeah, I I've never

1:25:35.160 --> 1:25:38.639
<v Speaker 6>had an experience before or since where it was sort

1:25:38.640 --> 1:25:41.280
<v Speaker 6>of the whole day. There was nothing tricky about it.

1:25:41.280 --> 1:25:43.400
<v Speaker 6>It was just like but they seemed very like.

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<v Speaker 2>God, was that not was that your last scene or

1:25:46.479 --> 1:25:48.479
<v Speaker 2>then the rest went on swimmingly after.

1:25:48.640 --> 1:25:50.200
<v Speaker 6>I think the rest went on swimmingly. I don't think

1:25:50.240 --> 1:25:50.800
<v Speaker 6>it was the last thing.

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<v Speaker 4>I wonder if they wanted you to do that thing

1:25:52.880 --> 1:25:55.400
<v Speaker 4>where you're like a lot of the guest stars do

1:25:55.439 --> 1:25:56.680
<v Speaker 4>this thing where their eyes.

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<v Speaker 1>Well up but no tears, Paul.

1:25:59.360 --> 1:26:01.520
<v Speaker 6>You know, they could have said it seems.

1:26:01.400 --> 1:26:04.599
<v Speaker 4>Very difficult, but also something you have to specifically asked for.

1:26:05.640 --> 1:26:07.400
<v Speaker 1>But I also was wondering too.

1:26:07.400 --> 1:26:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It's like everybody tells us like, oh, it's a well

1:26:09.880 --> 1:26:12.000
<v Speaker 2>oiled machine, blah blah blah. I'm sure you felt that

1:26:12.040 --> 1:26:13.880
<v Speaker 2>by the time you were on season twenty six, but

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<v Speaker 2>like season two, they were maybe still figuring things out.

1:26:17.360 --> 1:26:19.160
<v Speaker 2>They had a newer they had a different show runner,

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<v Speaker 2>though maybe in season one maybe they were.

1:26:21.800 --> 1:26:22.639
<v Speaker 1>But you're not alone.

1:26:22.680 --> 1:26:26.160
<v Speaker 4>Like Kathy Griffin told us and talked about it on

1:26:26.200 --> 1:26:29.760
<v Speaker 4>her reality show, how she felt like she was bombing.

1:26:29.880 --> 1:26:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Not that that's how you felt, but like she no.

1:26:31.760 --> 1:26:34.519
<v Speaker 2>So she was taping it for My Life on the

1:26:34.600 --> 1:26:37.080
<v Speaker 2>d List, so she was all fun in games and

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<v Speaker 2>then the next morning she goes, that was the word,

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<v Speaker 2>we gotta get down to.

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<v Speaker 1>Work, like she just sam she really she was shit

1:26:46.040 --> 1:26:46.639
<v Speaker 1>fucked her up.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I think I think that that you know, it's

1:26:49.439 --> 1:26:54.040
<v Speaker 6>it's most actors can can relate to the experience of

1:26:54.080 --> 1:26:57.799
<v Speaker 6>like waiting around to do your to shoot your stuff,

1:26:57.880 --> 1:27:00.240
<v Speaker 6>and then you shoot it, and then as soon as

1:27:00.240 --> 1:27:02.880
<v Speaker 6>they wrap and they move on to another setup, like

1:27:03.040 --> 1:27:05.479
<v Speaker 6>either at that point or on the ride home or

1:27:05.520 --> 1:27:07.599
<v Speaker 6>as you're trying to go to sleep, you're like, fuck,

1:27:07.800 --> 1:27:10.479
<v Speaker 6>that was That's what I should have done. Yeah, you know.

1:27:11.040 --> 1:27:12.680
<v Speaker 2>And that's what sucks because we do stand up and

1:27:12.720 --> 1:27:14.800
<v Speaker 2>like with stand up you can just like do it

1:27:14.880 --> 1:27:17.479
<v Speaker 2>forever the next day or whatever. It doesn't like there's

1:27:17.720 --> 1:27:20.200
<v Speaker 2>and then but this is a nightmare. There's just nothing

1:27:20.240 --> 1:27:20.479
<v Speaker 2>to do.

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<v Speaker 6>It's done. Yeah, yeah, I think I think it. It

1:27:25.080 --> 1:27:28.000
<v Speaker 6>certainly had the potential to be a nightmare that that situation,

1:27:28.160 --> 1:27:31.759
<v Speaker 6>and it wasn't. It felt tense to me, but also,

1:27:32.080 --> 1:27:36.280
<v Speaker 6>like like I said, like I wasn't weirdly for me.

1:27:36.439 --> 1:27:39.760
<v Speaker 6>I wasn't like they're right, I'm really fucking this up.

1:27:39.840 --> 1:27:42.400
<v Speaker 6>I was sort of like, I'm doing fine. I just

1:27:42.439 --> 1:27:45.280
<v Speaker 6>wish we could. I'd like them to be happier with this.

1:27:45.439 --> 1:27:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's funny because Maloneys have told us that like

1:27:49.160 --> 1:27:51.080
<v Speaker 2>Marishka will pull them aside and go.

1:27:51.280 --> 1:27:53.479
<v Speaker 1>But I would hate to be encouraged like that to me.

1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:56.760
<v Speaker 2>But not even well, they'll say, we've had people tell

1:27:56.840 --> 1:27:58.759
<v Speaker 2>us that she says specific stuff.

1:27:58.840 --> 1:28:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Not you can do it, She's great, I want you

1:28:01.560 --> 1:28:03.040
<v Speaker 1>to really yell at me or whatever.

1:28:03.120 --> 1:28:03.280
<v Speaker 6>You know.

1:28:03.360 --> 1:28:05.519
<v Speaker 1>It was just it wasn't you know, like it wasn't

1:28:05.920 --> 1:28:08.840
<v Speaker 1>one bit of direction. Did you bring it up when

1:28:08.840 --> 1:28:10.680
<v Speaker 1>you came back for the newer this? No?

1:28:11.120 --> 1:28:12.920
<v Speaker 6>No, I did not, no way.

1:28:13.680 --> 1:28:15.960
<v Speaker 4>It was so funny you were like, hey, guys, twenty

1:28:16.000 --> 1:28:19.160
<v Speaker 4>four years ago, you guys.

1:28:18.880 --> 1:28:20.200
<v Speaker 1>Did not give way.

1:28:20.240 --> 1:28:22.040
<v Speaker 2>But the other scene you also you did get to

1:28:22.080 --> 1:28:24.320
<v Speaker 2>tape outside. Do you remember like taping on the streets

1:28:24.320 --> 1:28:26.439
<v Speaker 2>of New York? Was that something that.

1:28:26.479 --> 1:28:30.360
<v Speaker 6>Was like I remember, I remember, I remember, I remember

1:28:30.400 --> 1:28:34.559
<v Speaker 6>meeting Ice uh in the in the van from base

1:28:34.600 --> 1:28:36.960
<v Speaker 6>camp to one of those uh one of I think

1:28:37.400 --> 1:28:42.280
<v Speaker 6>one of the location sets, and that being that being

1:28:42.400 --> 1:28:43.960
<v Speaker 6>just something that was like as it was happening, I

1:28:44.000 --> 1:28:45.439
<v Speaker 6>was like, I'm going to remember this for the rest

1:28:45.479 --> 1:28:49.559
<v Speaker 6>of my life because he was just like, hey, Ice, oh,

1:28:49.600 --> 1:28:50.479
<v Speaker 6>I'm Zach.

1:28:51.760 --> 1:28:54.639
<v Speaker 1>And you got to be on the stand and march.

1:28:54.760 --> 1:28:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Lets you have it, because like there you kind of

1:28:56.560 --> 1:28:57.880
<v Speaker 2>are like oh fuck, he didn't know.

1:28:57.960 --> 1:29:00.920
<v Speaker 1>And then when she's like, well she had was passed out.

1:29:03.240 --> 1:29:04.960
<v Speaker 1>There were some signs there was.

1:29:05.520 --> 1:29:08.360
<v Speaker 6>I think I think, right, I think that the realization

1:29:08.439 --> 1:29:11.000
<v Speaker 6>that like, oh maybe this is not defensible in any way,

1:29:11.080 --> 1:29:14.040
<v Speaker 6>like I can't really it was came comes in the

1:29:14.360 --> 1:29:14.960
<v Speaker 6>in the court room.

1:29:14.960 --> 1:29:17.519
<v Speaker 2>Well, because that's what's like cool about this show is

1:29:17.520 --> 1:29:19.200
<v Speaker 2>it's so ahead of its time in so many ways.

1:29:19.200 --> 1:29:21.480
<v Speaker 2>But then it's also sad because it's always a conversation

1:29:21.560 --> 1:29:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and nothing's shifted and this could have been made today.

1:29:24.280 --> 1:29:24.760
<v Speaker 6>Right right right?

1:29:25.000 --> 1:29:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, no, absolutely absolutely, But how was it on the stand.

1:29:27.800 --> 1:29:31.040
<v Speaker 6>I'm sure you're uh it was. It was I had

1:29:31.080 --> 1:29:35.400
<v Speaker 6>done I had done another Mothership law and Order, the

1:29:35.439 --> 1:29:38.360
<v Speaker 6>one that I had done back in ninety five or whatever.

1:29:38.479 --> 1:29:42.080
<v Speaker 6>Oh yeah, was it was like a witness guy who testified,

1:29:42.760 --> 1:29:46.400
<v Speaker 6>and so I was like, oh, yeah, okay, I'm I'm

1:29:47.360 --> 1:29:50.479
<v Speaker 6>I've I've done this before. It's just with different people

1:29:51.400 --> 1:29:54.200
<v Speaker 6>and uh and it felt but you don't yeah.

1:29:54.120 --> 1:29:56.680
<v Speaker 1>And you still it's still not guilty, wild.

1:29:56.400 --> 1:29:57.600
<v Speaker 6>It's still not guilty.

1:29:57.840 --> 1:30:01.400
<v Speaker 4>We everybody, like, like I I said, everybody's always saying,

1:30:01.640 --> 1:30:04.360
<v Speaker 4>oh my gosh, well oiled machine Marishka runs the set.

1:30:04.400 --> 1:30:06.080
<v Speaker 1>She's number one, she's so great.

1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:08.519
<v Speaker 4>What do you feel like there's big differences when you

1:30:08.560 --> 1:30:12.679
<v Speaker 4>go and do an episode of the Mothership, Like what's

1:30:12.680 --> 1:30:13.320
<v Speaker 4>the vibe there?

1:30:13.760 --> 1:30:14.440
<v Speaker 1>Uh?

1:30:14.640 --> 1:30:18.200
<v Speaker 6>Same? I mean it's it's there isn't well, there isn't

1:30:18.200 --> 1:30:20.479
<v Speaker 6>a Marishka. There isn't there isn't somebody who's been there

1:30:20.479 --> 1:30:28.320
<v Speaker 6>for thirty seven years. Yeah, but uh uh it's still

1:30:31.160 --> 1:30:34.519
<v Speaker 6>a thing that mostly uh I think about I guess

1:30:34.640 --> 1:30:39.080
<v Speaker 6>is that it's newer. Like the just the physical uh

1:30:39.200 --> 1:30:42.880
<v Speaker 6>plant for the Mothership is newer. It's out in Long

1:30:42.920 --> 1:30:46.240
<v Speaker 6>Island City or whatever, and it sort of is like

1:30:47.439 --> 1:30:50.160
<v Speaker 6>a little more updated, like it's still like an old,

1:30:50.280 --> 1:30:52.920
<v Speaker 6>you know, beat up like sound stage warehouse or whatever.

1:30:53.320 --> 1:30:56.280
<v Speaker 6>But the law and order of Mothership on Chelsea Piers,

1:30:56.320 --> 1:30:59.200
<v Speaker 6>like where it is or the SVU one I'm sorry,

1:30:59.280 --> 1:31:01.920
<v Speaker 6>on Chelsea Piers is where it's been for however long,

1:31:02.680 --> 1:31:09.240
<v Speaker 6>is so decrepit and weird and like it really is.

1:31:09.560 --> 1:31:13.160
<v Speaker 6>It really is like they are not spending money on

1:31:13.280 --> 1:31:16.680
<v Speaker 6>that place really like yeah, well I mean yeah, I

1:31:16.720 --> 1:31:18.479
<v Speaker 6>mean why would they? They don't have to. You know.

1:31:18.560 --> 1:31:21.479
<v Speaker 4>It's just funny because when as watchers we just seen

1:31:21.640 --> 1:31:24.840
<v Speaker 4>like the the like you know, the precinct.

1:31:25.080 --> 1:31:27.920
<v Speaker 1>It used to be like stacks of papers.

1:31:27.439 --> 1:31:30.320
<v Speaker 4>And like whatever, and now every desk is like empty

1:31:30.400 --> 1:31:35.920
<v Speaker 4>with once and like everything digital. It's all looks like

1:31:35.960 --> 1:31:39.559
<v Speaker 4>it could be literally an AI company, you know. And

1:31:40.479 --> 1:31:42.400
<v Speaker 4>it's just funny to me because to me, that looks

1:31:42.400 --> 1:31:44.200
<v Speaker 4>like more money has been like put into stuff.

1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:47.519
<v Speaker 6>But you're like, well, I mean I'm talking about like

1:31:47.600 --> 1:31:50.439
<v Speaker 6>you know, where we eat lunch and where the dressing

1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:53.479
<v Speaker 6>rooms and stuff is, like you eat lunch in like

1:31:53.720 --> 1:31:58.000
<v Speaker 6>it's just a hallway. It's just a like where two

1:31:58.080 --> 1:32:01.400
<v Speaker 6>hallways intersect and there's like some tables.

1:32:01.520 --> 1:32:04.479
<v Speaker 2>The money's in the show. We always laughtimes. There's like

1:32:05.040 --> 1:32:07.479
<v Speaker 2>forty five people in a yoga class. For one of

1:32:07.479 --> 1:32:11.360
<v Speaker 2>them to see a body, I'm like, damn, okay, all

1:32:11.880 --> 1:32:12.439
<v Speaker 2>you got that.

1:32:12.400 --> 1:32:15.559
<v Speaker 6>Many extra Yeah, yeah, that's true.

1:32:16.200 --> 1:32:19.160
<v Speaker 2>Obviously we would love to talk about wet hot American summer.

1:32:19.400 --> 1:32:21.320
<v Speaker 1>I mean truly my favorite.

1:32:22.520 --> 1:32:24.920
<v Speaker 2>When the shows came back, Like did you guys always

1:32:25.000 --> 1:32:28.040
<v Speaker 2>think that, like what that must have been exciting?

1:32:28.680 --> 1:32:31.960
<v Speaker 6>Yeah? It was, it was. It was thrilling. It was thrilling,

1:32:32.000 --> 1:32:34.320
<v Speaker 6>and it was and the first one was like one

1:32:34.320 --> 1:32:38.040
<v Speaker 6>of the very very first like original content things that

1:32:38.160 --> 1:32:40.400
<v Speaker 6>any of the streaming I mean, if there were even

1:32:40.439 --> 1:32:43.479
<v Speaker 6>any streaming things that Netflix certainly had ever done, you know,

1:32:43.560 --> 1:32:46.680
<v Speaker 6>so it wasn't very clear even what this was that

1:32:46.720 --> 1:32:48.960
<v Speaker 6>we were doing, or how this was gonna work or

1:32:49.040 --> 1:32:52.599
<v Speaker 6>like whatever, and but all of that was, you know,

1:32:53.080 --> 1:32:55.040
<v Speaker 6>was just sort of like who cares, Like we just

1:32:55.080 --> 1:32:58.439
<v Speaker 6>get to do this, yeah, and and go hang out

1:32:58.479 --> 1:33:01.000
<v Speaker 6>with each other again. And it was it was you know,

1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:04.680
<v Speaker 6>however many days I actually worked versus however many I

1:33:04.760 --> 1:33:07.519
<v Speaker 6>was there. I was on set every day just because

1:33:07.920 --> 1:33:09.760
<v Speaker 6>it was the most fun place to be.

1:33:10.200 --> 1:33:12.120
<v Speaker 1>Can I ask, like, if we take it back, like

1:33:12.200 --> 1:33:15.360
<v Speaker 1>how did you get involved with like these State stella,

1:33:15.800 --> 1:33:18.639
<v Speaker 1>like all these guys I met.

1:33:18.840 --> 1:33:21.920
<v Speaker 6>I first started meeting some of the State guys like

1:33:22.320 --> 1:33:27.800
<v Speaker 6>early early on. And I remember meeting Tom Lennon at

1:33:28.240 --> 1:33:32.120
<v Speaker 6>the premiere party of my first job, which was a

1:33:32.120 --> 1:33:35.200
<v Speaker 6>play at Lincoln Center called Suburbia, and he was there,

1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:41.720
<v Speaker 6>and I remember meeting him there and his girlfriend at

1:33:41.720 --> 1:33:46.479
<v Speaker 6>the time, and then maybe through that it was like, Hey,

1:33:46.800 --> 1:33:49.000
<v Speaker 6>you want to go to there's this party or whatever.

1:33:49.040 --> 1:33:51.680
<v Speaker 6>And then I think I met Mike Black next, and

1:33:51.720 --> 1:33:55.439
<v Speaker 6>then some and then somewhere in there Showalter. And then

1:33:55.520 --> 1:33:58.799
<v Speaker 6>this was around the time that the Stella live shows

1:33:58.840 --> 1:34:02.880
<v Speaker 6>were going uh huh, and so I started going to

1:34:03.000 --> 1:34:07.240
<v Speaker 6>those and then hanging out with them afterwards and then

1:34:07.880 --> 1:34:11.479
<v Speaker 6>doing little you know, utility bits and sketches and stuff

1:34:11.479 --> 1:34:13.240
<v Speaker 6>for them, like you know, wearing a lab coat and

1:34:13.280 --> 1:34:16.320
<v Speaker 6>being a mad scientist for a sketch or whatever on stage.

1:34:16.920 --> 1:34:20.960
<v Speaker 6>And then they started doing the Stella shorts, the videos

1:34:22.280 --> 1:34:24.320
<v Speaker 6>to play during their shows, and I did it with them.

1:34:24.320 --> 1:34:27.840
<v Speaker 6>That was that was David Wayne and Mike Black and

1:34:27.880 --> 1:34:34.360
<v Speaker 6>Mike Showalter. And then and then we did a play.

1:34:34.200 --> 1:34:37.080
<v Speaker 6>They like, they wrote a play, this ridiculous play that

1:34:37.120 --> 1:34:38.880
<v Speaker 6>we ended up that we did in New York and

1:34:38.880 --> 1:34:43.160
<v Speaker 6>then ended up taking to La, which was amazing and

1:34:43.200 --> 1:34:45.680
<v Speaker 6>that really I feel like that cemented it for me.

1:34:45.800 --> 1:34:48.360
<v Speaker 6>And then sprinkled in there were like a couple of

1:34:48.400 --> 1:34:54.120
<v Speaker 6>table reads of Wet Hot I remember at least one

1:34:54.160 --> 1:34:58.400
<v Speaker 6>of them had I think Dan Castellanetta in the in

1:34:58.479 --> 1:35:04.000
<v Speaker 6>the role of either Henry or the chef. And so

1:35:04.040 --> 1:35:06.000
<v Speaker 6>that was going on for like a couple of years,

1:35:06.080 --> 1:35:08.800
<v Speaker 6>and then and then they were like we're making this,

1:35:08.920 --> 1:35:10.679
<v Speaker 6>We're making this, and we're shooting this, and.

1:35:11.360 --> 1:35:14.080
<v Speaker 2>Well and the making up documentary was so good because

1:35:14.120 --> 1:35:14.680
<v Speaker 2>I remember one.

1:35:15.160 --> 1:35:17.360
<v Speaker 1>So it was like raining the whole time or something, right.

1:35:17.240 --> 1:35:20.200
<v Speaker 6>It rained like twenty eight days of the of the

1:35:20.320 --> 1:35:22.880
<v Speaker 6>thirty days or whatever it was. Yeah, Oh my god, yeah,

1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:24.559
<v Speaker 6>it rained. It rained the entire time.

1:35:24.920 --> 1:35:27.080
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but why does it look so dry? Am I

1:35:27.120 --> 1:35:28.920
<v Speaker 2>being a fool? You guys were outside so much.

1:35:28.960 --> 1:35:31.080
<v Speaker 6>No, there are lots of There are lots of moments

1:35:31.120 --> 1:35:35.000
<v Speaker 6>where you can see like rain, like in a doorway,

1:35:35.160 --> 1:35:36.440
<v Speaker 6>like coming down outside.

1:35:36.520 --> 1:35:38.320
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, you know I have to try to

1:35:38.360 --> 1:35:39.000
<v Speaker 1>see that. Well.

1:35:39.040 --> 1:35:41.920
<v Speaker 2>So Diane Neil, who plays Casey Novack on SVU, she

1:35:41.960 --> 1:35:43.479
<v Speaker 2>was one of the eighty as for many years.

1:35:43.840 --> 1:35:44.040
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1:35:44.160 --> 1:35:47.719
<v Speaker 2>She would bring cans of vegetables and leave them out,

1:35:48.200 --> 1:35:51.719
<v Speaker 2>and I guess Maloney one day lost it and started

1:35:51.760 --> 1:35:53.640
<v Speaker 2>screaming like, oh that fuck is doing this and she

1:35:53.680 --> 1:35:55.720
<v Speaker 2>was like it's me, and he goes, oh, you're young,

1:35:55.800 --> 1:35:56.320
<v Speaker 2>it's fine.

1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:59.120
<v Speaker 1>But she did drive crazy.

1:35:59.600 --> 1:36:02.120
<v Speaker 2>We just name some movies you've been in, and you

1:36:02.120 --> 1:36:04.360
<v Speaker 2>can tell us what you think, like what comes to mind?

1:36:05.720 --> 1:36:06.960
<v Speaker 6>What movies that I've been in?

1:36:07.120 --> 1:36:10.240
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll tell you and then you'll tell me.

1:36:10.800 --> 1:36:14.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, okay, yeah, okay. She wasn't saying, can you just

1:36:14.160 --> 1:36:21.880
<v Speaker 1>name some movies you've been in. We've obvious Romeo and Juliet.

1:36:22.680 --> 1:36:27.200
<v Speaker 6>Yes, that was that was like old school how they

1:36:27.360 --> 1:36:29.000
<v Speaker 6>how what I was talking about, how like one of

1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:32.719
<v Speaker 6>the ways that the the industry sort of turned itself

1:36:32.760 --> 1:36:36.000
<v Speaker 6>out inside out and changed is that like I had

1:36:36.000 --> 1:36:38.320
<v Speaker 6>a pretty small part in that, but like I was

1:36:38.840 --> 1:36:41.200
<v Speaker 6>down there for three months, you know, like I was

1:36:41.240 --> 1:36:44.519
<v Speaker 6>in Mexico for three months, and like you know, had

1:36:44.560 --> 1:36:48.799
<v Speaker 6>this was like like in a different world and and

1:36:48.800 --> 1:36:53.720
<v Speaker 6>and like really uh, very different from being like a

1:36:53.800 --> 1:36:57.120
<v Speaker 6>date player, local hire, which is what everything is now.

1:36:57.200 --> 1:36:59.920
<v Speaker 6>That that's my recollection is just sort of the grandiosity

1:37:00.120 --> 1:37:03.960
<v Speaker 6>of the fact that they're like they're hired me, paying

1:37:03.960 --> 1:37:06.400
<v Speaker 6>me for all this time, and like I'm maybe working

1:37:06.479 --> 1:37:08.479
<v Speaker 6>like you know, I don't know, eighteen days or something

1:37:08.520 --> 1:37:12.160
<v Speaker 6>like that, but like, uh, just and I'm in this

1:37:12.680 --> 1:37:15.320
<v Speaker 6>strange country and and there was all sorts of drama

1:37:15.400 --> 1:37:17.960
<v Speaker 6>behind the scenes with people being kidnapped and all this

1:37:18.120 --> 1:37:22.840
<v Speaker 6>crazy shit, and uh but uh, it was it was

1:37:23.800 --> 1:37:27.600
<v Speaker 6>that was that was tremendous. Should I talk about the kidnapping?

1:37:28.040 --> 1:37:30.559
<v Speaker 1>I mean we taught as a crime podcast.

1:37:31.040 --> 1:37:35.559
<v Speaker 6>Okay, well, I guess I guess that that at the time,

1:37:36.520 --> 1:37:41.880
<v Speaker 6>it was a real problem in Mexico City with uh,

1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:47.120
<v Speaker 6>you know, various organizations, you know, just kidnapping people all

1:37:47.160 --> 1:37:48.720
<v Speaker 6>the time. I guess maybe it still goes on. I

1:37:48.760 --> 1:37:51.240
<v Speaker 6>don't know. When we were first getting started, everybody was

1:37:51.240 --> 1:37:53.920
<v Speaker 6>staying in the same hotel, and so word got out

1:37:53.960 --> 1:37:57.200
<v Speaker 6>fairly quickly that there were a bunch of foreigners, you know,

1:37:57.280 --> 1:37:59.360
<v Speaker 6>working for a big movie, that we're all staying at

1:37:59.360 --> 1:38:03.599
<v Speaker 6>this hotel. And so like the unlicensed cabs would start

1:38:03.640 --> 1:38:06.000
<v Speaker 6>coming to you know intercept, you know, people that are

1:38:06.000 --> 1:38:09.360
<v Speaker 6>getting cabs or whatever. If anybody said, you know, take

1:38:09.400 --> 1:38:12.320
<v Speaker 6>me to this hotel and they were, they were just

1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:15.400
<v Speaker 6>like immediately take them. So like a bunch of people,

1:38:15.760 --> 1:38:19.920
<v Speaker 6>a bunch of people from the crew were kidnapped on

1:38:20.000 --> 1:38:25.120
<v Speaker 6>different occasions, some of them injured very badly and held

1:38:25.120 --> 1:38:27.559
<v Speaker 6>for ransom and all this stuff. And so you know,

1:38:27.640 --> 1:38:31.400
<v Speaker 6>the production figured it out. I mean, you know, they

1:38:31.560 --> 1:38:37.479
<v Speaker 6>they said we have to They assigned everybody their own driver. Yeah,

1:38:37.680 --> 1:38:41.920
<v Speaker 6>nobody was nobody can take cabs anymore. And uh uh

1:38:42.160 --> 1:38:42.519
<v Speaker 6>so was.

1:38:42.520 --> 1:38:44.120
<v Speaker 1>It like a bunch of people, like in a week

1:38:44.160 --> 1:38:45.439
<v Speaker 1>everyone got kidnapped, Like how.

1:38:45.360 --> 1:38:47.559
<v Speaker 6>Does everything it went on for about a week.

1:38:47.840 --> 1:38:50.960
<v Speaker 1>Did everyone stay and continue working or did some people leave?

1:38:51.120 --> 1:38:54.680
<v Speaker 6>I think I think I believe one person to my

1:38:54.760 --> 1:38:57.920
<v Speaker 6>recollection left like was just like yeah, I don't I

1:38:57.920 --> 1:39:01.280
<v Speaker 6>don't know. Or was was hurt badly enough that they

1:39:01.280 --> 1:39:02.080
<v Speaker 6>had to leave. Yeah, it was.

1:39:02.240 --> 1:39:03.120
<v Speaker 1>It was terrible.

1:39:03.520 --> 1:39:06.280
<v Speaker 6>It was crazy. Yeah, it was. It was very like

1:39:07.280 --> 1:39:07.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, it was.

1:39:08.160 --> 1:39:10.040
<v Speaker 2>I definitely thought you were just gonna have some gossip,

1:39:10.120 --> 1:39:13.080
<v Speaker 2>but this is like wild, yeah, intense. But did you

1:39:13.080 --> 1:39:14.360
<v Speaker 2>guys trauma bond over it?

1:39:14.720 --> 1:39:17.879
<v Speaker 6>Uh well, we definitely, uh yeah, I mean we're definitely.

1:39:18.520 --> 1:39:21.240
<v Speaker 6>I remember I remember one of the people came back.

1:39:21.280 --> 1:39:24.519
<v Speaker 6>He was walking with a cane, you know, and and

1:39:24.640 --> 1:39:27.840
<v Speaker 6>uh and and looked, you know, terribly beat up. I

1:39:27.880 --> 1:39:30.679
<v Speaker 6>mean it was. It was scary. It was really really scary.

1:39:31.080 --> 1:39:36.120
<v Speaker 6>But the solution was just for everybody to be protected

1:39:36.160 --> 1:39:38.880
<v Speaker 6>at all times. Yeah, you know, only if they could

1:39:39.200 --> 1:39:41.040
<v Speaker 6>had a driver for the duration of the shoot and

1:39:41.080 --> 1:39:44.559
<v Speaker 6>they could you know, go out and and uh uh

1:39:45.040 --> 1:39:47.960
<v Speaker 6>and be safe that way, not get kidnapped by a

1:39:49.400 --> 1:39:50.840
<v Speaker 6>you know, un licensed cabs.

1:39:51.000 --> 1:39:55.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, damn, damn, damn damp because I wanted to be like, wow,

1:39:55.560 --> 1:39:57.120
<v Speaker 2>so cool, just Mexico hanging.

1:39:57.240 --> 1:39:59.720
<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was. It was.

1:39:59.760 --> 1:40:02.400
<v Speaker 6>It was cool. It was cool, but it was also

1:40:03.040 --> 1:40:06.160
<v Speaker 6>you know, that was that was and everybody got sick

1:40:06.280 --> 1:40:09.080
<v Speaker 6>and you know, but that's I think that's.

1:40:08.880 --> 1:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>A that's a good that's a good tidbit. So one

1:40:11.160 --> 1:40:15.000
<v Speaker 1>of my favorite movies is Prime. Oh my god. Yeah,

1:40:15.520 --> 1:40:20.400
<v Speaker 1>it's like I love that movie so much, amazing. Yeah,

1:40:20.439 --> 1:40:22.880
<v Speaker 1>and I just what do you got?

1:40:23.680 --> 1:40:28.599
<v Speaker 6>Uh? Well, I remember, I remember, uh, I guess that

1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:33.880
<v Speaker 6>that when I auditioned for that, and you know, I

1:40:33.920 --> 1:40:36.960
<v Speaker 6>read the part and they and like the note, they

1:40:37.000 --> 1:40:41.479
<v Speaker 6>were very like careful to be like, don't be gay,

1:40:41.680 --> 1:40:43.880
<v Speaker 6>like don't like my character that I was auditioning for

1:40:44.000 --> 1:40:46.080
<v Speaker 6>was like gay. They're like, don't you know, don't do

1:40:46.120 --> 1:40:47.840
<v Speaker 6>anything cliche. And I was like, of course, like I

1:40:47.840 --> 1:40:51.439
<v Speaker 6>won't do that, like just play it straight or whatever,

1:40:51.560 --> 1:40:54.719
<v Speaker 6>don't play up that. And I was like, okay, fine,

1:40:54.800 --> 1:40:57.599
<v Speaker 6>like that's thank you, you know. And and so I've

1:40:57.640 --> 1:41:00.320
<v Speaker 6>gotten to meet Ben Younger and I then he goes, okay,

1:41:00.360 --> 1:41:03.519
<v Speaker 6>let's let's start and uh and of course I get

1:41:03.560 --> 1:41:05.760
<v Speaker 6>like two lines into it, he goes, I'm gonna stop

1:41:05.760 --> 1:41:09.880
<v Speaker 6>you right there, not gay, and then which I was

1:41:10.760 --> 1:41:17.800
<v Speaker 6>realized eventually that he was just fucking like not so

1:41:17.880 --> 1:41:23.360
<v Speaker 6>gay and uh uh and yeah, so we had I remember,

1:41:23.439 --> 1:41:26.080
<v Speaker 6>in fact, I I that just came up because the

1:41:26.160 --> 1:41:30.160
<v Speaker 6>job that I just finished. The costume designer was the

1:41:30.200 --> 1:41:33.479
<v Speaker 6>costume designer for that, and I hadn't seen her since then.

1:41:33.880 --> 1:41:34.880
<v Speaker 1>Wait, what was the other thing?

1:41:34.920 --> 1:41:38.160
<v Speaker 6>She was a costume designer, the thing that I just finished,

1:41:38.160 --> 1:41:42.800
<v Speaker 6>This thing called the statement. Okay, what's Tom McCarthy's new movie.

1:41:43.479 --> 1:41:45.160
<v Speaker 6>It's Tom McCarthy's new movie.

1:41:45.479 --> 1:41:48.120
<v Speaker 2>Oh see, it still says untitled Tom McCarthy on the internet,

1:41:48.200 --> 1:41:49.560
<v Speaker 2>untitled Tom McCarthy.

1:41:50.320 --> 1:41:52.360
<v Speaker 6>Is it a secret called the statement? Right now?

1:41:52.880 --> 1:41:54.280
<v Speaker 1>We can let everyone knows the statement?

1:41:54.320 --> 1:41:56.519
<v Speaker 6>I don't think so. But yeah, no, they they released

1:41:56.640 --> 1:41:59.000
<v Speaker 6>they I think they made a I think they put

1:41:59.120 --> 1:42:04.280
<v Speaker 6>out okay, press, press, release whatever. It's based on a

1:42:04.320 --> 1:42:08.559
<v Speaker 6>book called Losing Earth by this guy Nathaniel Rich, which

1:42:08.600 --> 1:42:15.280
<v Speaker 6>is about sort of how the climate change movement got derailed,

1:42:15.479 --> 1:42:18.000
<v Speaker 6>like what brought us to this point where what we

1:42:18.080 --> 1:42:23.200
<v Speaker 6>knew fifty years ago that could have prevented catastrophe, Despite that,

1:42:23.720 --> 1:42:25.880
<v Speaker 6>here we are. And one of the things in the

1:42:25.920 --> 1:42:30.640
<v Speaker 6>book is a sort of critical point in This was

1:42:30.680 --> 1:42:34.439
<v Speaker 6>a conference in nineteen eighty and Saint Petersburg, Florida. That

1:42:34.600 --> 1:42:39.440
<v Speaker 6>was an effort to come up with sort of guidelines

1:42:39.439 --> 1:42:43.200
<v Speaker 6>for legislation to combat climate change, particularly CO two. And

1:42:43.240 --> 1:42:46.800
<v Speaker 6>it was a real conference. They got the found the

1:42:46.840 --> 1:42:52.040
<v Speaker 6>transcripts for this from this conference and built a script

1:42:52.040 --> 1:42:55.960
<v Speaker 6>around it. So it's this very interesting movie where there's

1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:59.200
<v Speaker 6>like twenty two of us for the bulk of the

1:42:59.240 --> 1:43:02.519
<v Speaker 6>movie around this big conference table and shot with three

1:43:02.560 --> 1:43:06.960
<v Speaker 6>cameras and doing you know, all of the dialogue was

1:43:07.000 --> 1:43:11.080
<v Speaker 6>as spoken by by these real people.

1:43:11.479 --> 1:43:15.439
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's star studded, it's it's a crazy cast.

1:43:16.160 --> 1:43:18.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know, semester you some pod guests of the

1:43:18.960 --> 1:43:21.360
<v Speaker 2>pod Michael Chernis, uh huh.

1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:25.680
<v Speaker 4>Tom McCarthy has been on SVU as an actor. I

1:43:25.760 --> 1:43:29.960
<v Speaker 4>just looked at season one, season one, I mean yeah,

1:43:30.000 --> 1:43:31.599
<v Speaker 4>season one, an episode called.

1:43:31.960 --> 1:43:34.320
<v Speaker 1>Contact Nothing that guy can't do damn.

1:43:34.320 --> 1:43:36.439
<v Speaker 2>And do you feel like you've worked with Paul Rudd

1:43:36.439 --> 1:43:38.799
<v Speaker 2>more than anyone in your whole career.

1:43:39.240 --> 1:43:42.040
<v Speaker 6>Every sort of clinched it. Yeah, this definitely sort of

1:43:42.040 --> 1:43:44.519
<v Speaker 6>clinched it that. I was like, I was like I've

1:43:44.560 --> 1:43:50.639
<v Speaker 6>known Paul Rudd for thirty years and and and uh,

1:43:51.120 --> 1:43:55.719
<v Speaker 6>you know, and like he's he's always he's said many

1:43:55.760 --> 1:43:57.760
<v Speaker 6>times like sort of jokingly, but he said it a

1:43:57.800 --> 1:44:02.400
<v Speaker 6>lot like that, Like he credits me with his comedy

1:44:02.439 --> 1:44:06.720
<v Speaker 6>career because I introduced him to the State guys and

1:44:06.760 --> 1:44:09.519
<v Speaker 6>the Stella guys, and from that, you know that he

1:44:09.600 --> 1:44:12.479
<v Speaker 6>met John Appatow and all these which just does not

1:44:12.600 --> 1:44:16.160
<v Speaker 6>something he needs to say, but he has said a

1:44:16.200 --> 1:44:19.000
<v Speaker 6>lot and is very nice and like, Yeah, this time

1:44:19.040 --> 1:44:23.880
<v Speaker 6>in particular, I was there, you know, I sat across

1:44:23.880 --> 1:44:26.000
<v Speaker 6>from room for fifteen days of shooting or whatever, and

1:44:26.400 --> 1:44:28.320
<v Speaker 6>at some point I was like I've known I've known

1:44:28.400 --> 1:44:30.439
<v Speaker 6>him a really really long time.

1:44:30.520 --> 1:44:31.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:44:32.000 --> 1:44:34.160
<v Speaker 4>Did you guys when you were making Wet Hot, Like

1:44:35.600 --> 1:44:38.120
<v Speaker 4>I mean, could you have imagined like what a like

1:44:38.840 --> 1:44:41.559
<v Speaker 4>such a little indie I feel like it was.

1:44:41.479 --> 1:44:44.440
<v Speaker 1>But also such a singular voice, like nothing.

1:44:44.320 --> 1:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>Is like it, you know, right, and it's and so

1:44:47.080 --> 1:44:50.280
<v Speaker 2>many huge stars and amazing actors have come out of it,

1:44:50.439 --> 1:44:55.120
<v Speaker 2>and you've redone it now like with the the going

1:44:55.200 --> 1:44:57.960
<v Speaker 2>back to the two TV series like all these things,

1:44:58.160 --> 1:45:00.519
<v Speaker 2>like you guys had did you have any inkling like Oh.

1:45:00.360 --> 1:45:02.479
<v Speaker 1>This is like really gonna hit, this is gonna be huge?

1:45:02.600 --> 1:45:07.360
<v Speaker 6>Like no, I mean, I mean, I I said at

1:45:07.400 --> 1:45:10.559
<v Speaker 6>the time that you know, like I said that, I

1:45:10.600 --> 1:45:13.040
<v Speaker 6>don't know what this is gonna if this is going

1:45:13.120 --> 1:45:15.680
<v Speaker 6>to be successful or anything like that. I just know

1:45:15.800 --> 1:45:19.240
<v Speaker 6>that I want them to get an edit done and

1:45:19.320 --> 1:45:21.439
<v Speaker 6>get a copy of it to me that I just

1:45:21.560 --> 1:45:24.519
<v Speaker 6>want this. I have to have this, like I have

1:45:24.600 --> 1:45:28.760
<v Speaker 6>to see this like and and in that regard, you know,

1:45:28.880 --> 1:45:33.360
<v Speaker 6>I think I think it was definitely I don't think

1:45:33.360 --> 1:45:36.599
<v Speaker 6>they set out to make, you know, a cult movie,

1:45:36.800 --> 1:45:39.439
<v Speaker 6>because you can't do that. Yeah, but you know, I

1:45:39.439 --> 1:45:41.639
<v Speaker 6>mean I think most cult movies are sort of movies

1:45:41.680 --> 1:45:47.240
<v Speaker 6>that didn't, you know, achieve the numbers that everybody is

1:45:47.240 --> 1:45:50.479
<v Speaker 6>supposed to want to achieve with the release and all

1:45:50.560 --> 1:45:55.040
<v Speaker 6>that stuff. But but finds this audience in this new

1:45:55.080 --> 1:45:59.600
<v Speaker 6>life and like that was always surprising and thrilling but

1:45:59.720 --> 1:46:00.920
<v Speaker 6>also so made sense.

1:46:02.000 --> 1:46:04.439
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I was a camp counselor. When this movie

1:46:04.479 --> 1:46:06.400
<v Speaker 2>came out, it was like it.

1:46:06.320 --> 1:46:09.000
<v Speaker 1>Was she still runs the family camp. I still go

1:46:09.120 --> 1:46:11.280
<v Speaker 1>back to my summer camp like every summer for a

1:46:11.280 --> 1:46:11.680
<v Speaker 1>little bit.

1:46:11.800 --> 1:46:14.599
<v Speaker 4>Like I'm such a big camp person, and so all

1:46:14.720 --> 1:46:16.840
<v Speaker 4>my camp friends would be like, oh my god, this

1:46:16.920 --> 1:46:19.559
<v Speaker 4>movie was like made for us. Like you know, like

1:46:19.600 --> 1:46:22.240
<v Speaker 4>when they go to town for like their break and

1:46:22.439 --> 1:46:24.879
<v Speaker 4>go on like a full bender. I mean, we obviously

1:46:24.920 --> 1:46:27.000
<v Speaker 4>didn't do that, but we would like run into town

1:46:27.040 --> 1:46:29.280
<v Speaker 4>to like smoke as many cigarettes and eat Cheetos as

1:46:29.320 --> 1:46:30.759
<v Speaker 4>we could and then run back to camp.

1:46:30.960 --> 1:46:33.000
<v Speaker 1>And then the movie just like blew that out to

1:46:33.040 --> 1:46:35.719
<v Speaker 1>be like they're shooting up, They're like doing all this shit,

1:46:36.120 --> 1:46:40.640
<v Speaker 1>like it was so good, and I just I don't know,

1:46:40.680 --> 1:46:42.040
<v Speaker 1>I just don't know. I'd want to just tell you

1:46:42.120 --> 1:46:43.360
<v Speaker 1>how much I love the movie.

1:46:43.720 --> 1:46:47.280
<v Speaker 6>Oh thank you. I I love it too. And it

1:46:47.360 --> 1:46:51.360
<v Speaker 6>really is like many people, you know, call it a

1:46:51.400 --> 1:46:53.360
<v Speaker 6>litmus test or whatever. It's like, if you want to

1:46:53.360 --> 1:46:55.960
<v Speaker 6>be my friend, you have to watch this movie. And yeah,

1:46:56.080 --> 1:46:57.479
<v Speaker 6>you know, we can't be friends if you don't love

1:46:57.479 --> 1:47:01.559
<v Speaker 6>this movie. And and and yeah, and and by far

1:47:01.760 --> 1:47:04.360
<v Speaker 6>the most, you know, the most, the thing that people

1:47:04.920 --> 1:47:07.960
<v Speaker 6>are the most enthusiastic about nice about is that.

1:47:08.200 --> 1:47:15.720
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, for sure, I mean fun, fun, what a day

1:47:15.760 --> 1:47:19.000
<v Speaker 1>for you? And the clank community, Yes good, a clangk

1:47:19.080 --> 1:47:22.000
<v Speaker 1>family classic made its way into We got to talk

1:47:22.040 --> 1:47:27.519
<v Speaker 1>to somebody. I'm so excited. I love him. And yeah, I.

1:47:27.479 --> 1:47:30.000
<v Speaker 2>Mean yeah, they just ruined everything I want to be

1:47:30.040 --> 1:47:33.600
<v Speaker 2>on set for seven months minus kidnappings, of course, but

1:47:33.720 --> 1:47:36.519
<v Speaker 2>like I mean, taking everything from us, everything is worse.

1:47:36.640 --> 1:47:39.439
<v Speaker 2>Everything is worse. They buy Annie's crap, the Annie's mac

1:47:39.479 --> 1:47:41.800
<v Speaker 2>and cheese. They take out all the real ingredients. Yeah,

1:47:41.800 --> 1:47:45.920
<v Speaker 2>put it with garbage and we're given slop and I'm

1:47:45.920 --> 1:47:48.040
<v Speaker 2>easy to bring up veep and America is wiping its

1:47:48.160 --> 1:47:49.160
<v Speaker 2>nasty ass with it.

1:47:49.640 --> 1:47:49.800
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1:47:49.840 --> 1:47:52.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like maybe it's it's late stage capitalism, right, It's

1:47:52.960 --> 1:47:56.680
<v Speaker 2>like literally everything used to be let's make art, and

1:47:56.760 --> 1:48:01.320
<v Speaker 2>now it's like, let's get like Nickel and dime every

1:48:01.360 --> 1:48:02.120
<v Speaker 2>single thing.

1:48:02.520 --> 1:48:05.920
<v Speaker 1>Like you're gonna be there on this shoot for you

1:48:05.960 --> 1:48:08.760
<v Speaker 1>have to fly yourself in, be a local higher.

1:48:08.280 --> 1:48:11.879
<v Speaker 2>You're on this step for four days, you know, seventies

1:48:11.920 --> 1:48:14.200
<v Speaker 2>even thin because I was gonna bring up Aya cash

1:48:14.240 --> 1:48:15.519
<v Speaker 2>when she was here, and she's like, I make so

1:48:15.600 --> 1:48:17.240
<v Speaker 2>much money because I sat for three months at wob

1:48:17.240 --> 1:48:20.000
<v Speaker 2>of Wall Street barely had a line. Yeah, and she

1:48:20.040 --> 1:48:22.120
<v Speaker 2>says she makes way like so much cash off that.

1:48:23.000 --> 1:48:23.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:48:23.400 --> 1:48:26.080
<v Speaker 2>Can you imagine he started acting and then some woman

1:48:26.160 --> 1:48:27.960
<v Speaker 2>comes in and goes, you're coming to New York and

1:48:27.960 --> 1:48:32.960
<v Speaker 2>then you're in Mexico Leonardo DiCaprio, Yeah, yeah.

1:48:32.680 --> 1:48:39.000
<v Speaker 1>Fuck yep, and people are getting freaking kidnapped.

1:48:39.040 --> 1:48:42.080
<v Speaker 2>I guess the kidnapping is so crazy, but then like

1:48:42.200 --> 1:48:45.519
<v Speaker 2>then they did protect everyone. Yeah, I mean the probably

1:48:45.520 --> 1:48:47.519
<v Speaker 2>had to pay all the ransoms. Yeah, but I mean

1:48:47.560 --> 1:48:50.439
<v Speaker 2>to have to have a cane. That's upsetting because someone

1:48:50.479 --> 1:48:52.840
<v Speaker 2>from my elementary school got kidnapped and I did think

1:48:52.840 --> 1:48:54.800
<v Speaker 2>it was funny when we were older, and he's like,

1:48:54.880 --> 1:48:56.160
<v Speaker 2>that was the worst thing that's ever happened to me,

1:48:56.160 --> 1:48:57.639
<v Speaker 2>and I go, oh, yeah, that's like trauma.

1:48:57.920 --> 1:49:01.080
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, that's terrifying because you don't know that they're just

1:49:01.080 --> 1:49:03.719
<v Speaker 4>gonna like let you go for X amount of money

1:49:03.800 --> 1:49:04.200
<v Speaker 4>or whatever.

1:49:04.520 --> 1:49:05.439
<v Speaker 1>No, they had guns.

1:49:05.479 --> 1:49:07.240
<v Speaker 2>I mean I told you I accidentally used his first

1:49:07.240 --> 1:49:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and last name and a thing and then everyone at

1:49:09.880 --> 1:49:12.200
<v Speaker 2>his job saw it. And then he wrote me a

1:49:12.240 --> 1:49:15.200
<v Speaker 2>pretty scathing message. Oh no, he said he hopes I

1:49:15.240 --> 1:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>die in a fire, but congratulations on Horace and pe

1:49:17.920 --> 1:49:22.280
<v Speaker 2>like that's what the message was. Wow, damn, I'm meeting

1:49:22.280 --> 1:49:27.800
<v Speaker 2>a Clementine. I'm so sorry. I just not leave Ementine

1:49:27.880 --> 1:49:31.280
<v Speaker 2>the juices. I was just so hungry and then I'll

1:49:31.320 --> 1:49:33.640
<v Speaker 2>have had his iced coffee and beer, so I just

1:49:33.720 --> 1:49:34.719
<v Speaker 2>like needed something.

1:49:35.000 --> 1:49:40.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah yeah yeah, but post mortem on the old constricted

1:49:40.320 --> 1:49:42.720
<v Speaker 1>I mean constricted. I still want to talk about him.

1:49:42.760 --> 1:49:44.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I also love that he got to do VP,

1:49:44.960 --> 1:49:47.040
<v Speaker 1>like being a fan of it. I don't know.

1:49:47.680 --> 1:49:52.400
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I want old Hollywood, like looking at the Red

1:49:52.400 --> 1:49:55.080
<v Speaker 2>carpets even. I think people are nostalgic for when faces

1:49:55.080 --> 1:49:58.000
<v Speaker 2>look different and people didn't have stylists and you could

1:49:58.000 --> 1:50:00.840
<v Speaker 2>just see people wearing dresses that they pick out with

1:50:00.920 --> 1:50:04.599
<v Speaker 2>their faces. Who knew that would be a four long era?

1:50:04.960 --> 1:50:08.280
<v Speaker 2>Is that the term for long bygone era?

1:50:08.720 --> 1:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Like what the fuck? Yeah?

1:50:12.000 --> 1:50:15.799
<v Speaker 2>Everyone's faces are just fucked Yes, I was just talking

1:50:15.800 --> 1:50:22.960
<v Speaker 2>about that this morning. With everybody's talking about Chris Kardashian's guy,

1:50:23.200 --> 1:50:25.439
<v Speaker 2>I've heard all kinds of stuff about how like she

1:50:25.520 --> 1:50:28.680
<v Speaker 2>has a password that she gives to people if they

1:50:28.680 --> 1:50:30.439
<v Speaker 2>want to use her. Guy that did her face, He

1:50:30.479 --> 1:50:33.720
<v Speaker 2>actually doesn't. He actually makes people look like themselves. I'm

1:50:33.760 --> 1:50:36.800
<v Speaker 2>actually pro that guy. But now I heard somebody said

1:50:36.800 --> 1:50:40.280
<v Speaker 2>that her face lifts falling and she's pissed. Oh, I

1:50:40.280 --> 1:50:41.559
<v Speaker 2>don't know. I hear all kinds of shit.

1:50:41.560 --> 1:50:43.360
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, bitch, It's like, you're eighty, your face

1:50:43.439 --> 1:50:45.679
<v Speaker 1>is gonna fall? What the fuck are we doing? Yeah? Yeah, yeah,

1:50:45.720 --> 1:50:49.280
<v Speaker 1>what are we doing? Yeah? I just don't like it.

1:50:49.360 --> 1:50:51.280
<v Speaker 1>I just it's like I don't.

1:50:51.360 --> 1:50:54.040
<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because I like medicine and I like

1:50:54.080 --> 1:50:55.479
<v Speaker 2>the maps like Google Maps.

1:50:55.560 --> 1:51:00.519
<v Speaker 1>But those are the only two inventions.

1:51:01.040 --> 1:51:03.800
<v Speaker 2>Technology wise, like just the heart of stuff, Like I

1:51:03.800 --> 1:51:04.879
<v Speaker 2>guess it's just capitalism.

1:51:04.960 --> 1:51:06.920
<v Speaker 1>It's not technology that's bad. It's just like.

1:51:08.479 --> 1:51:11.160
<v Speaker 2>So for a few guys to get rich, like everything

1:51:11.200 --> 1:51:13.639
<v Speaker 2>we consume is worse, Like it's just.

1:51:14.120 --> 1:51:16.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean I listened to like reality.

1:51:17.040 --> 1:51:20.640
<v Speaker 4>It's because like now tech companies run entertainment and it

1:51:20.680 --> 1:51:21.439
<v Speaker 4>didn't used to be that.

1:51:21.640 --> 1:51:24.879
<v Speaker 2>Like you, tech companies only care about their quarterly reports

1:51:24.960 --> 1:51:27.480
<v Speaker 2>and wanted to follow any of the rules that were implemented,

1:51:28.200 --> 1:51:30.440
<v Speaker 2>for like the separations of the movie industry.

1:51:30.600 --> 1:51:35.400
<v Speaker 1>No, we let dorks take over, like these fucking nerds. Yeah,

1:51:35.400 --> 1:51:39.960
<v Speaker 1>why aren't we just swirling them like fucking and then

1:51:40.040 --> 1:51:42.360
<v Speaker 1>people and then people that want to do bits like

1:51:42.400 --> 1:51:45.120
<v Speaker 1>look up to the door, like, I just it's a

1:51:45.360 --> 1:51:47.599
<v Speaker 1>it's a twilight zone. This must be a test. Are

1:51:47.600 --> 1:51:49.559
<v Speaker 1>we in the good place? Like? Are we in the bad? Like?

1:51:49.600 --> 1:51:54.320
<v Speaker 1>What is it? This can't be real. This can't be real.

1:51:54.960 --> 1:51:57.600
<v Speaker 1>We're gonna make everything worse and you're not gonna as

1:51:57.680 --> 1:51:59.400
<v Speaker 1>much fun, We're gonna treat you worse. You're gonna be

1:51:59.439 --> 1:52:00.680
<v Speaker 1>more desperate, and everything's worse.

1:52:00.960 --> 1:52:04.160
<v Speaker 4>I've been feeling that really lately, that everything is worse,

1:52:04.439 --> 1:52:08.479
<v Speaker 4>Like everything is like just stuff I used to buy,

1:52:08.880 --> 1:52:14.240
<v Speaker 4>like experiences exactly. Nothing is as good anymore. And I

1:52:14.280 --> 1:52:18.679
<v Speaker 4>don't know the anti thing is so true.

1:52:19.240 --> 1:52:21.519
<v Speaker 1>It is these organic brands get bought and then it

1:52:21.600 --> 1:52:25.960
<v Speaker 1>all ends up being the the glops bar baoops. Yeah,

1:52:26.040 --> 1:52:27.400
<v Speaker 1>like not the real food.

1:52:28.439 --> 1:52:29.599
<v Speaker 2>And then I know I've said this on the pods

1:52:29.640 --> 1:52:31.240
<v Speaker 2>so many times, but then when I'm on stage being

1:52:31.280 --> 1:52:33.000
<v Speaker 2>like we need to murder the rich, everyone's a gas

1:52:33.000 --> 1:52:35.880
<v Speaker 2>and it's like they're slowly poisoning you and then not

1:52:35.960 --> 1:52:38.240
<v Speaker 2>letting you get medicine, Like what are we? Why do

1:52:38.439 --> 1:52:43.080
<v Speaker 2>people have such like an instinct to protect this? Like

1:52:43.160 --> 1:52:44.320
<v Speaker 2>that's what I don't get at.

1:52:44.520 --> 1:52:47.200
<v Speaker 4>Have you seen like Ben mackenzie from the OC making

1:52:47.240 --> 1:52:51.080
<v Speaker 4>all the round talking about crypto and stuff and like, yeah,

1:52:51.080 --> 1:52:54.120
<v Speaker 4>it's like at least somebody is going around talking about

1:52:54.120 --> 1:52:59.920
<v Speaker 4>how these guys are sociopaths, right, Like, oh, I've learned

1:53:00.040 --> 1:53:01.840
<v Speaker 4>I've been saying Palenteer wrong.

1:53:02.320 --> 1:53:04.400
<v Speaker 1>Have we talked about this? No? How is that wrong.

1:53:04.400 --> 1:53:05.839
<v Speaker 1>I've been saying Plantier everywhere.

1:53:06.320 --> 1:53:09.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Palenteer, Yeah, yeah, No one has corrected me for years.

1:53:09.800 --> 1:53:11.880
<v Speaker 2>But Jared like pointed out to me when I said

1:53:11.880 --> 1:53:14.760
<v Speaker 2>something about Pallenteer to him. He goes, do you know

1:53:14.920 --> 1:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>Palenteer are like these evil things from like Lord of

1:53:18.960 --> 1:53:21.160
<v Speaker 2>the Rings. And I guess like Peter Teel is a

1:53:21.160 --> 1:53:23.439
<v Speaker 2>big Lord of the Rings person, but like they're not

1:53:23.600 --> 1:53:25.200
<v Speaker 2>a good thing in Lord of the.

1:53:25.479 --> 1:53:28.519
<v Speaker 1>They're nah, they're like they're doing tech for ice, like

1:53:28.600 --> 1:53:32.479
<v Speaker 1>they're all bad. They're nerds. It's like they're I don't know,

1:53:32.600 --> 1:53:33.000
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1:53:33.120 --> 1:53:36.400
<v Speaker 4>It's one of these indestructible crystal bar balls from Lord

1:53:36.400 --> 1:53:40.240
<v Speaker 4>of the Rings and they're used for communication to see events,

1:53:40.240 --> 1:53:43.080
<v Speaker 4>but they eventually cause like corruption and destruction.

1:53:44.000 --> 1:53:45.960
<v Speaker 1>Yes, they want to destruct. They didn't get there. He's nod.

1:53:46.200 --> 1:53:47.760
<v Speaker 1>I've never seen a Lord of the Rings or read

1:53:47.800 --> 1:53:50.639
<v Speaker 1>a word of the books. I'm just second one now.

1:53:50.640 --> 1:53:52.839
<v Speaker 1>I saw that. I saw the movies. I saw the movies.

1:53:53.040 --> 1:53:56.240
<v Speaker 4>So it's like, you named your company that. That's so wild.

1:53:56.560 --> 1:53:57.880
<v Speaker 4>You named your company that.

1:53:58.960 --> 1:54:02.559
<v Speaker 1>Yes, that's it's in plain sight, like yeah, there's no tricks.

1:54:02.560 --> 1:54:04.840
<v Speaker 1>It's like people are defending it's like I don't know.

1:54:04.880 --> 1:54:07.720
<v Speaker 2>It's like no, they they're saying they don't care if

1:54:07.760 --> 1:54:11.720
<v Speaker 2>you die, Like I don't know, whatever, whatever. I think

1:54:11.760 --> 1:54:14.639
<v Speaker 2>everyone should be gay, and like I think that would

1:54:14.640 --> 1:54:20.960
<v Speaker 2>solve everything. I think it's like guys being too scared

1:54:20.960 --> 1:54:23.920
<v Speaker 2>to be gay is like what's caused it all?

1:54:24.160 --> 1:54:26.680
<v Speaker 1>Like if they were just that, It's it's what I

1:54:26.720 --> 1:54:29.280
<v Speaker 1>believe now. I don't know. I'm just coming up with stuff,

1:54:29.320 --> 1:54:31.960
<v Speaker 1>but yeah, just I believe it. Some solutions out there.

1:54:32.000 --> 1:54:32.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

1:54:32.360 --> 1:54:35.360
<v Speaker 2>It's just devastating. But Our Guests was great, good episode.

1:54:35.440 --> 1:54:38.360
<v Speaker 2>What yeah someone Yeah constricted choke I mean, it's it's

1:54:38.360 --> 1:54:38.839
<v Speaker 2>a nightmare.

1:54:38.920 --> 1:54:42.400
<v Speaker 1>We gotta we just gotta be keeping an eye on

1:54:42.440 --> 1:54:43.760
<v Speaker 1>what we're showing these kids.

1:54:43.560 --> 1:54:47.120
<v Speaker 2>This man told a child to choke out and strangle

1:54:47.160 --> 1:54:49.640
<v Speaker 2>another child and he just has to do an apology.

1:54:50.320 --> 1:54:53.960
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, and he's like and he's like, this is how

1:54:54.000 --> 1:54:56.320
<v Speaker 4>you close. Like he's like teaching his son, like this

1:54:56.360 --> 1:54:59.160
<v Speaker 4>is how you really get them. They're the choosers, they're

1:54:59.200 --> 1:55:01.640
<v Speaker 4>the buyers. They get the choice, and this is really

1:55:01.680 --> 1:55:03.400
<v Speaker 4>how you're going to close the deal. But then let's

1:55:03.400 --> 1:55:06.760
<v Speaker 4>take all their choice and strangle her. I mean his

1:55:06.840 --> 1:55:10.280
<v Speaker 4>wife was waiting for a reason. She was waiting well.

1:55:10.320 --> 1:55:14.160
<v Speaker 2>And this is so connected to Zach's other episode from

1:55:14.200 --> 1:55:17.840
<v Speaker 2>season two with Consent, where it's like the enthusiastic of

1:55:17.840 --> 1:55:19.840
<v Speaker 2>it all, where it's like, yeah, she didn't say no,

1:55:19.920 --> 1:55:22.640
<v Speaker 2>but it's like, but she was covered in vomit.

1:55:23.160 --> 1:55:25.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I don't know if she didn't say me. We

1:55:26.200 --> 1:55:30.080
<v Speaker 1>had your hands around her neck. Yeah yeah, it's like, well,

1:55:30.160 --> 1:55:33.880
<v Speaker 1>she didn't say anything, and it's like, like, I don't understand.

1:55:34.400 --> 1:55:36.720
<v Speaker 1>That's so true, Zach. Both of Zach's episodes.

1:55:36.800 --> 1:55:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like the same themes for decades on this show.

1:55:41.160 --> 1:55:45.760
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ahead of its time and never enough because it's

1:55:45.800 --> 1:55:47.960
<v Speaker 1>just yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, well, let's get to our what would sister Peg do?

1:55:51.480 --> 1:55:54.520
<v Speaker 4>This is our weekly segment where we recommend you to

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<v Speaker 4>a book an article about my country.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm talking about Megla Stallion obviously, and then someone it

1:56:01.480 --> 1:56:03.280
<v Speaker 2>was like, oh wait, what are you talking about? I go, well,

1:56:03.360 --> 1:56:06.080
<v Speaker 2>so Meg Thea Stallions with this guy. His name is

1:56:06.120 --> 1:56:08.400
<v Speaker 2>Clay Thompson and he goes, yeah, I know who that is,

1:56:08.560 --> 1:56:09.880
<v Speaker 2>and I was like, oh yeah, I forgot that. Like

1:56:09.920 --> 1:56:13.200
<v Speaker 2>he does like basketball. People might know him separately from

1:56:13.240 --> 1:56:14.320
<v Speaker 2>Meg Thea stallion, you know.

1:56:14.760 --> 1:56:17.240
<v Speaker 4>Well wait, we didn't talk about this on the podcast though.

1:56:17.160 --> 1:56:17.560
<v Speaker 1>No, we have it.

1:56:17.640 --> 1:56:19.960
<v Speaker 2>But because basically I'm thinking about her a lot and

1:56:20.000 --> 1:56:21.680
<v Speaker 2>like the way she was treated, and then also thinking

1:56:21.680 --> 1:56:23.440
<v Speaker 2>about how like a man shot her in the foot

1:56:23.680 --> 1:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>and people still defend him and don't give a fuck

1:56:26.400 --> 1:56:28.360
<v Speaker 2>and make fun of her, and it's like, it is

1:56:28.400 --> 1:56:32.360
<v Speaker 2>just crazy. I want firing squads and then everyone to

1:56:32.400 --> 1:56:33.560
<v Speaker 2>be gay and then that.

1:56:34.080 --> 1:56:34.960
<v Speaker 1>So what is the story?

1:56:34.960 --> 1:56:37.120
<v Speaker 4>Because I saw the video of her like crying on

1:56:37.240 --> 1:56:38.240
<v Speaker 4>stage at her.

1:56:38.120 --> 1:56:42.440
<v Speaker 2>Shit, the story is she posted and she was just like, okay,

1:56:42.480 --> 1:56:45.440
<v Speaker 2>you were playing house fucking having me cook for your

1:56:45.440 --> 1:56:48.560
<v Speaker 2>fucking family. They buy out a house together, buying her cars,

1:56:49.160 --> 1:56:52.280
<v Speaker 2>and then cheats on her and then tries to like

1:56:52.320 --> 1:56:54.360
<v Speaker 2>be like, oh, it's kind of the Lindy West of

1:56:54.400 --> 1:56:56.520
<v Speaker 2>it all, where it's like if you're Polly or non

1:56:56.560 --> 1:57:00.800
<v Speaker 2>monogamous or whatever, like you say that up top, Yeah,

1:57:00.800 --> 1:57:03.160
<v Speaker 2>that is the thing you say, you don't get to cheat,

1:57:03.200 --> 1:57:06.280
<v Speaker 2>and then go, well, I'm actually non monogamous. But then also,

1:57:06.320 --> 1:57:08.320
<v Speaker 2>you just bought a house and did Thanksgiving and she

1:57:08.320 --> 1:57:10.440
<v Speaker 2>cooked for your family. So then I read a thing

1:57:10.480 --> 1:57:13.840
<v Speaker 2>about just like like that. Men sometimes will like trap

1:57:13.880 --> 1:57:16.840
<v Speaker 2>you far enough to think that you won't leave, Like, oh,

1:57:16.840 --> 1:57:18.400
<v Speaker 2>well we bought a house, she'll put up with it.

1:57:18.720 --> 1:57:21.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's like, no, she's Meg the Stallion. She's gonna leave.

1:57:21.520 --> 1:57:24.080
<v Speaker 2>And then I was wondering, like, if Lindy West had

1:57:24.120 --> 1:57:29.360
<v Speaker 2>more megdus stallion energy, she should leave. Yeah, maybe this

1:57:29.440 --> 1:57:32.720
<v Speaker 2>whole thing will convince her that. But and so it

1:57:32.760 --> 1:57:34.800
<v Speaker 2>was just impressive that. Oh and then she also in

1:57:34.880 --> 1:57:36.920
<v Speaker 2>her message was just like and I put up with

1:57:36.960 --> 1:57:40.200
<v Speaker 2>your terrible mood swings all basketball season, and now that

1:57:40.280 --> 1:57:45.080
<v Speaker 2>you're off, now suddenly you don't want to be monogamous, Yeah,

1:57:45.240 --> 1:57:47.720
<v Speaker 2>to deal with your fucking loser ass. No, you don't

1:57:47.760 --> 1:57:50.880
<v Speaker 2>get to pull Pollyamory out as like an afterthought that's

1:57:50.920 --> 1:57:53.240
<v Speaker 2>at the top. And then obviously it's not nice, but

1:57:53.280 --> 1:57:54.960
<v Speaker 2>everyone's gonna call him ugly for the rest of his

1:57:55.000 --> 1:57:56.760
<v Speaker 2>life and that he didn't deserve her, and like it's

1:57:56.800 --> 1:57:59.280
<v Speaker 2>kind of the Wes Wilson, Like Wes Wilson is resentful

1:57:59.600 --> 1:58:02.520
<v Speaker 2>that people think like he's not good enough for Sierra

1:58:02.600 --> 1:58:05.480
<v Speaker 2>and that's where all of this comes from. Oh, it's

1:58:05.480 --> 1:58:07.720
<v Speaker 2>like resentment where he's just like they want me to

1:58:07.760 --> 1:58:10.480
<v Speaker 2>be like you know, when you're like, how'd you get her?

1:58:10.600 --> 1:58:12.400
<v Speaker 1>Your troll? What you cheated on?

1:58:12.480 --> 1:58:14.200
<v Speaker 2>You didn't want to be with her, You're nothing, and

1:58:14.240 --> 1:58:16.760
<v Speaker 2>like all that resentment was what led to all of this,

1:58:17.000 --> 1:58:20.400
<v Speaker 2>you know, in the public opinion, it's like this resenting

1:58:20.600 --> 1:58:22.760
<v Speaker 2>fucking thing. And I bet he had that because Meg

1:58:22.800 --> 1:58:25.920
<v Speaker 2>the Stallion and like his face is weird and she's perfect.

1:58:28.280 --> 1:58:29.920
<v Speaker 2>But it's like you think she can't get her own

1:58:29.960 --> 1:58:31.960
<v Speaker 2>house and car, Like what did you think you thought

1:58:32.040 --> 1:58:34.000
<v Speaker 2>Red the Stallion was gonna go? Okay, yeah, I know

1:58:34.040 --> 1:58:38.240
<v Speaker 2>you can fuck whoever you want, right while you bought

1:58:38.240 --> 1:58:41.120
<v Speaker 2>a house together. And then she and then saying, oh,

1:58:41.520 --> 1:58:42.880
<v Speaker 2>but I don't want to be monogamous. Well what does

1:58:42.920 --> 1:58:43.920
<v Speaker 2>monogamous mean to you?

1:58:44.040 --> 1:58:47.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah? So weird, it's fucking weird.

1:58:47.880 --> 1:58:50.200
<v Speaker 2>But then obviously I just thought about her having a shot,

1:58:50.680 --> 1:58:52.960
<v Speaker 2>like no one care and people being like you dumb bitch,

1:58:53.280 --> 1:58:53.840
<v Speaker 2>what'd you do?

1:58:54.160 --> 1:58:55.240
<v Speaker 1>What you did is arette.

1:58:55.400 --> 1:58:57.560
<v Speaker 4>It also feels like an excuse too. It feels like,

1:58:57.600 --> 1:58:59.800
<v Speaker 4>I mean, he's just like got busted. And then he's like,

1:58:59.840 --> 1:59:02.640
<v Speaker 4>oh but I'm I'm I'm not. Yeah, you have to

1:59:02.640 --> 1:59:06.560
<v Speaker 4>be ethically non monogamous. That's unethical. Yeah, you get ethical.

1:59:07.200 --> 1:59:10.160
<v Speaker 4>You forgot the ethics. Did we get any bad messages

1:59:10.200 --> 1:59:10.920
<v Speaker 4>when I went off.

1:59:10.760 --> 1:59:13.640
<v Speaker 1>On Polly honestly not really.

1:59:14.000 --> 1:59:14.200
<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

1:59:14.240 --> 1:59:16.000
<v Speaker 4>I love our audience, like a couple of people were

1:59:16.040 --> 1:59:18.320
<v Speaker 4>just like people were just like a lot of us

1:59:18.360 --> 1:59:20.560
<v Speaker 4>are not having kids and not doing like what you're saying.

1:59:20.880 --> 1:59:23.040
<v Speaker 4>Like but but yes, but we love you like they

1:59:23.040 --> 1:59:26.680
<v Speaker 4>weren't even like mad, We have the best girl.

1:59:26.800 --> 1:59:27.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1:59:27.320 --> 1:59:30.640
<v Speaker 2>No, I feel like a psychopath when I go off

1:59:30.640 --> 1:59:33.400
<v Speaker 2>on these things. But it is all interconnected, because then

1:59:33.440 --> 1:59:35.280
<v Speaker 2>you sound crazy, you know, you're like this and then

1:59:35.280 --> 1:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>this and then this.

1:59:36.000 --> 1:59:37.919
<v Speaker 1>But it's like it is all connected.

1:59:37.960 --> 1:59:42.920
<v Speaker 2>It's like the patriarchy, capitalism, whiteness, it's all connected. Yeah,

1:59:43.560 --> 1:59:47.160
<v Speaker 2>and it and pedophiles and it controls all of it. Yes,

1:59:47.800 --> 1:59:51.280
<v Speaker 2>and we're controlled by rich pedophile psychopaths who don't see

1:59:51.320 --> 1:59:54.040
<v Speaker 2>us as people. And then I'm the bitch, and then

1:59:54.080 --> 1:59:59.280
<v Speaker 2>I'm the bitch like it's insane, you're yeah, yep, yeah,

1:59:59.280 --> 2:00:00.800
<v Speaker 2>I should write to the to your podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's the bitch? The patriarchy? Now? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 4>Everybody, yes, exactly, we say that all the time. Everybody

2:00:08.080 --> 2:00:10.440
<v Speaker 4>is feeling this like it feels every I mean maybe

2:00:10.480 --> 2:00:14.760
<v Speaker 4>not white men that are financially doing well in our pedophiles.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Everything feels like it's worse right now,

2:00:17.600 --> 2:00:21.720
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. There's elections coming up. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who knows. Should we get into it with Sister

2:00:24.920 --> 2:00:29.360
<v Speaker 1>Pegg doing coffee? Yeah, we have to just say little joys.

2:00:29.360 --> 2:00:31.720
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to see Devilware's brought a little joyce. We're

2:00:31.800 --> 2:00:36.320
<v Speaker 1>just trying to get the joys. What would Sister Peg do?

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<v Speaker 4>This is our weekly segment where we direct you to

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<v Speaker 4>an article, a doc, an organization, something to give you

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<v Speaker 4>more info about.

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<v Speaker 1>What we talked about. And this week we wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>put you.

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<v Speaker 4>To an article on the Techno Sapiens Substack written by

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<v Speaker 4>psychologist and professor Jacqueline NeSSI, titled how to Talk to

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<v Speaker 4>Kids about Porn. As the article discusses, the average age

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<v Speaker 4>of exposure to porn is eleven or twelve. The article

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<v Speaker 4>covers when, how, and what to say to your kid

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<v Speaker 4>about porn. There are even helpful suggestions for if your

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<v Speaker 4>kid is older it has already been exposed to porn.

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<v Speaker 4>So to read the article, head on over to the

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<v Speaker 4>Techno Sapiens Stop Substack or we'll have it linked in

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<v Speaker 4>our show notes and posted in a story the day

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<v Speaker 4>this episode comes out, and we catalog all those old

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<v Speaker 4>stories in our WWSPD highlights on our Instagram, which is

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<v Speaker 4>That's Messed Up Pod.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you so much for that, And next week we

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<v Speaker 2>will be doing Bound season five, episode twenty three, all

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<v Speaker 2>Class Match. I'm so excited. Form. We should like talk

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<v Speaker 2>about the Tommies more. It's like we named them and

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<v Speaker 2>never mention it again.

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<v Speaker 1>No, we do, we do, we do, we do the time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>We'll see you Tommy's next week.

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<v Speaker 1>Our mixer John Bradley and our guest booker Patrick Cottner.

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