WEBVTT - One Victory in a Long War 0:00:11.880 --> 0:00:15.080 Welcome to woke f with Me Danielle Moody. This week 0:00:15.120 --> 0:00:18.119 America breathed the heavy sigh of relief as three consecutive 0:00:18.120 --> 0:00:21.239 guilty verdicts came down in the murder trial of Derek Chauvin. 0:00:21.480 --> 0:00:24.079 We shouldn't have to feel surprised, we shouldn't have to 0:00:24.120 --> 0:00:27.360 feel relieved. But the reality is that cops murdering black 0:00:27.360 --> 0:00:30.000 people in broad daylight and getting away with it is 0:00:30.280 --> 0:00:33.680 the norm in American policing. This week on woke f Daily, 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.280 I was joined by my friend fill up Atiba Goff, 0:00:36.560 --> 0:00:39.280 CEO of the Center for Policing Equity. We talked for 0:00:39.360 --> 0:00:41.640 half an hour about what can be done to radically 0:00:41.680 --> 0:00:45.600 transform policing, including his thoughts on calls to defund the police, 0:00:45.840 --> 0:00:48.040 which you will hear coming up in a few minutes. 0:00:48.080 --> 0:00:49.839 If the ten minutes I share with you today in 0:00:49.960 --> 0:00:53.240 form and inspire you, do consider supporting woke f Daily 0:00:53.240 --> 0:00:56.080 on Patreon to hear the full interview and so much more. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:58.960 You can become a patron right now at patreon dot 0:00:58.960 --> 0:01:01.920 com slash woke Yeah. But for now, let's pick up 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:04.440 on me asking Philip to share his thoughts on ending 0:01:04.520 --> 0:01:14.000 qualified immunity for police officers. Where are we with qualified immunity? Right? 0:01:14.600 --> 0:01:17.880 Where where are we with being able to at least 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:21.640 get to some type of level playing ground where you 0:01:21.720 --> 0:01:26.080 don't have this get out of jail free card. Yeah, 0:01:26.120 --> 0:01:29.800 so unqualified immunity. There are states that are making changes. 0:01:29.920 --> 0:01:32.720 They're saying they're abolishing it. That's not quite right. What 0:01:32.760 --> 0:01:36.559 they're doing is they're changing the standard for it, which 0:01:36.600 --> 0:01:41.480 should be useful on state cases and can be useful 0:01:41.600 --> 0:01:46.120 on local cases. But we're not close from any of 0:01:46.120 --> 0:01:49.520 the states. As examples, the Justice for Justice and Police 0:01:49.520 --> 0:01:53.000 saying George Floyd Act would end in this current iteration, 0:01:53.040 --> 0:01:56.280 would end qualified immunity, and I think that has a 0:01:56.360 --> 0:01:59.600 shot of making it through the Senate. So in that case, 0:01:59.680 --> 0:02:03.680 we would be in fact revealing the precedent and saying, no, 0:02:03.760 --> 0:02:07.520 you cannot use it this way. But qualified immunity might 0:02:08.280 --> 0:02:11.840 might make a difference in about a quarter of the 0:02:11.880 --> 0:02:15.080 cases that come forward where they're charging. So even those 0:02:15.120 --> 0:02:17.040 things that are that are sort of easy villains in 0:02:17.040 --> 0:02:20.960 this fight, the real villain here is the way we 0:02:21.160 --> 0:02:27.680 use police. So if most cities ninety six percent of 0:02:27.720 --> 0:02:30.840 what police do has nothing to do with violence, do 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.000 you think we could figure out a way to spend 0:02:33.120 --> 0:02:37.280 less and get less armed response for that ninety six 0:02:37.360 --> 0:02:40.520 percent of behavior. So I'd be happy toly qualified immunity 0:02:40.520 --> 0:02:43.280 in place if police had ninety six percent less contact 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:46.560 with folks, Right, Like, if all I'm trying to do 0:02:46.680 --> 0:02:48.320 is reduce the number of bodies going to the morgu 0:02:48.320 --> 0:02:51.120 as a result of contact with the state, that seems 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:53.720 like the bigger lever to pull is to pull police 0:02:53.760 --> 0:02:55.840 out of the places where, by the way, for the 0:02:55.919 --> 0:02:58.560 last quarter century they've been saying, we can't do this. 0:02:58.800 --> 0:03:00.600 You give us too much. We can't do mental health 0:03:00.639 --> 0:03:03.680 and substance abuse and homelessness and child welfare. Why do 0:03:03.680 --> 0:03:06.280 you give all that to us? Right, So they want 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:07.760 to get out of the business. They just want to 0:03:07.760 --> 0:03:11.160 do it without losing their budgets. Right, I'm happy to 0:03:11.200 --> 0:03:13.160 law enforcement to get them out of the places they 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:15.760 always wanted to get out of. And in many cities, 0:03:15.800 --> 0:03:18.640 by the way, we should be standing up those systems 0:03:18.680 --> 0:03:23.200 before we're disinvesting, so we can invest before we divest 0:03:23.200 --> 0:03:25.640 in some places. But it's got to be push pull, 0:03:25.760 --> 0:03:28.720 because we have fed this beast so much that if 0:03:28.760 --> 0:03:31.680 they were the military, US law enforcement would be the 0:03:31.760 --> 0:03:37.120 third largest military in the world after our military and 0:03:37.160 --> 0:03:42.760 then China's military. That's too much, which is obscene when 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:46.280 you look at the lack of money we put into 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:51.760 let's say education, right, like you judge a country by 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.600 where they put the most of their resources, and like 0:03:54.640 --> 0:03:58.520 you said at the beginning, America is addicted right to 0:03:58.640 --> 0:04:02.440 locking people up. And it's no wonder to me. I mean, 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.280 we would rather in America send children to school with 0:04:06.360 --> 0:04:14.000 bulletproof backpacks, armed teachers, then do something substantive on gun reform. 0:04:14.160 --> 0:04:18.400 We'd rather have a Dante right a week or a day, 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:23.080 then admit to the fact that our policing system is 0:04:23.160 --> 0:04:27.440 absolutely atrocious and if it didn't have a badge, would 0:04:27.440 --> 0:04:30.960 be considered the KKK in terms of the number of 0:04:31.080 --> 0:04:35.599 black people that they murder on a regular basis. I 0:04:35.760 --> 0:04:42.520 just you know, what expectations do you have of this 0:04:42.680 --> 0:04:49.599 current administration to be able to move the ball forward 0:04:50.320 --> 0:04:55.000 with this systemic problem that we have. It will really 0:04:55.040 --> 0:04:58.359 depend to me on who they get through Senate confirmation. 0:04:59.120 --> 0:05:03.359 The Senate confirmed nominees right now are of fantastic slate 0:05:03.360 --> 0:05:07.560 of folks that are way bolder in terms of their 0:05:07.640 --> 0:05:11.839 vision for what can be done than this president campaigned on. 0:05:12.279 --> 0:05:15.360 So we get Kristin Clark, and we get Venita Gupta, 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.599 and we get Anne Milgram has had a DA that's 0:05:18.839 --> 0:05:21.920 good for the set of things I care about. Vinita 0:05:21.960 --> 0:05:23.800 Gupta was the best thing that had happened to the 0:05:23.800 --> 0:05:27.880 Civil Rights Division in at least a generation. And for 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:30.240 her to come up and then have Kristin Clark take 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:32.000 that over, I send it confirmed. I mean, it's not 0:05:32.040 --> 0:05:36.680 just history setting. It sets a table for removal qualified immunity, 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.680 for really ramping up what investigations look like a civil 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:42.960 rights for expanding how civil rights investigations of law enforcement 0:05:43.040 --> 0:05:46.359 actually go into the full municipality. Right because before the 0:05:46.400 --> 0:05:49.640 Ferguson report, no one was talking about how cities generate revenue. 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:52.680 So how much more can of folks who are really 0:05:52.680 --> 0:05:55.680 credential to have some experience? How much more could they do? 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:59.680 And also I want us to be thinking about what 0:05:59.720 --> 0:06:02.960 are we gonna make them do? Because under Obama, what 0:06:02.960 --> 0:06:04.680 we did was we said, there's a black dude there 0:06:05.240 --> 0:06:08.520 right plays basketball. We like his march madness, his wife 0:06:08.560 --> 0:06:13.520 is wonderful, his kids are wonderful. Let's not embarrass him. 0:06:13.680 --> 0:06:16.360 Let's not put him in bad spots, and so we 0:06:16.440 --> 0:06:19.000 didn't push. I'm not saying that's what I thought. I'm 0:06:19.000 --> 0:06:21.080 not saying this what everybody thought. No, no, no, But 0:06:21.279 --> 0:06:24.120 I mean, but that's right. But that's right. There's no 0:06:24.160 --> 0:06:27.600 reason not to push Uncle Joe. There's just not. And 0:06:27.640 --> 0:06:29.360 so I want to say, what are we going to 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:33.000 insist on? And I hope we insist on the recognition 0:06:33.200 --> 0:06:37.960 nationwide that we have a system that punishes people for 0:06:38.000 --> 0:06:41.080 the choices they make in a context where we have 0:06:41.160 --> 0:06:44.799 given them only terrible options. So we should be giving 0:06:44.800 --> 0:06:47.160 them better options before we even talk about how we 0:06:47.200 --> 0:06:50.280 want to ratch it up punishment. Last question for you, 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:55.040 fill Up is this, do you feel like we need 0:06:55.480 --> 0:07:02.680 to change our messaging around defund the lease, around abolish 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:07.039 the police. Do you think that the messaging is off 0:07:07.400 --> 0:07:10.000 or do you think that it's right where it needs 0:07:10.040 --> 0:07:13.280 to be. So this conversation around messaging, I actually think 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:16.600 it is super duper important because there's a lot of 0:07:16.640 --> 0:07:19.040 assumptions that have gone into it when we've had it 0:07:19.080 --> 0:07:22.720 in public. So members of what i'll call a democratic 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.040 establishment have said, well, we can't be making this defund demand. 0:07:26.080 --> 0:07:29.240 That's ridiculous it's killing us electorally, be like, you were 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:33.280 not the one's making it. It wasn't for you. It 0:07:33.320 --> 0:07:36.160 was activating folks who were outraged and felt like what 0:07:36.200 --> 0:07:37.960 on earth can I do? Like you and I were 0:07:37.960 --> 0:07:40.000 saying and feeling at the very beginning of this conversation, 0:07:40.760 --> 0:07:42.720 and those folks are like, you know what, Yeah, I'm 0:07:42.720 --> 0:07:44.840 not up for reform, I'm up for just getting rid 0:07:44.880 --> 0:07:48.160 of this because it's actually killing us. Yeah. So if 0:07:48.160 --> 0:07:52.080 folks want to have different messaging, feel free to develop some. 0:07:52.920 --> 0:07:56.160 That's how I feel about. It's like, so we all 0:07:56.200 --> 0:07:59.080 of us were not messaging the same thing. So I 0:07:59.440 --> 0:08:01.680 have a listeners talking about I want to talk about refund, 0:08:02.120 --> 0:08:04.840 not defund, refund to the community. I hear abolition is 0:08:04.920 --> 0:08:07.640 saying that, oh right, that feels good to me. But 0:08:07.720 --> 0:08:10.000 you know what, defund is still working in places. And 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:12.720 I also, I know you said last question. I'm gonna 0:08:12.760 --> 0:08:15.920 try not to be too profound, come on now, but 0:08:16.240 --> 0:08:18.720 my deal is we think of abolition right now like 0:08:18.760 --> 0:08:22.160 it's it's something brand new, okay. And then some folks 0:08:22.200 --> 0:08:23.560 are like, oh, Miriam Cobb has been around for a 0:08:23.560 --> 0:08:25.960 little while, Yes she has, she's been doing it and 0:08:26.000 --> 0:08:27.800 then some people are like, well, Angela Davis been around 0:08:27.800 --> 0:08:30.360 for a little while. Okay, okay, okay. But Angela Davis, 0:08:30.400 --> 0:08:33.080 when she is summarizing a great portion of her life's 0:08:33.080 --> 0:08:34.839 work in two thousand and five, writes a book called 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.800 Abolition Democracy. She is quoting from W. E. B. Du 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:43.840 Bois writing in nineteen thirty five about black reconstruction. This 0:08:43.880 --> 0:08:47.560 thing goes back to the point of emancipation, when we 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:51.560 have black geniuses talking about not just the destruction of 0:08:51.559 --> 0:08:56.559 the systems that kill us, but the proactive, affirmative construction 0:08:56.600 --> 0:08:58.559 of systems that will keep us safe and the will 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:02.440 rip body politic of the toxins of historical legacies of racism. 0:09:02.840 --> 0:09:07.079 Abolition is not just about getting rid of something. It's 0:09:07.080 --> 0:09:09.840 about standing up something that's better than what we've had. 0:09:10.160 --> 0:09:14.599 And when we have a more historically literate appreciation for 0:09:14.720 --> 0:09:17.280 what that word means, I think it stops being so 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:23.240 scary and starts being a bit inevitable. You know, you're 0:09:23.320 --> 0:09:29.679 so right on so many things. What makes me discourage, though, 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:35.280 is that we're a nation that is illiterate about our 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:39.000 own history, about our own lives, about the lives of 0:09:39.000 --> 0:09:45.000 our neighbors. We are purposefully ignorant. And so for every 0:09:45.000 --> 0:09:49.839 issue that we have, there is a re education that 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.480 needs to happen, because the way that we have been 0:09:52.640 --> 0:09:55.920 educated is through the lie. I keep saying that the 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:59.480 big lie wasn't just about election fraud. The big lie 0:09:59.480 --> 0:10:01.800 has been what we've been teaching in public school since 0:10:01.840 --> 0:10:05.240 the beginning of time, right, And so it's just like, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:08.440 you know, you make sense if you were to take 0:10:08.480 --> 0:10:11.960 things into historical contests and actually understand the context of 0:10:12.000 --> 0:10:14.680 the words that we are using. But my fear for 0:10:14.760 --> 0:10:18.319 America is that we continually show our ass and our 0:10:18.400 --> 0:10:22.720 celebratory around just how ignorant we are. And so if 0:10:22.800 --> 0:10:25.320 that be the case, Philip, it's like, do we ever 0:10:25.400 --> 0:10:28.679 see the needle move? Right? If we're in a constant 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:32.480 state of having to go back and re educate folks 0:10:32.480 --> 0:10:34.960 and bring them up to where they should be, are 0:10:34.960 --> 0:10:39.800 we ever moving forward? If I got to keep looking back? Yeah, 0:10:40.240 --> 0:10:44.480 I understand the frustration. And so let's say there's two options. 0:10:44.840 --> 0:10:47.480 There's a yes and there's a no. If the answer 0:10:47.640 --> 0:10:52.240 is no, then what we're doing just give up? Right? 0:10:52.600 --> 0:10:56.640 I should I should become a black person who says 0:10:57.000 --> 0:10:58.679 that black people just need to pull the pants up, 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:00.800 and that will get all the shots are because there's 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:03.200 money in that, for sure. Oh, I find your percent. 0:11:03.280 --> 0:11:06.960 You could be rich on Fox News go ahead if 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:09.679 you didn't care about a conscience or yeah, like if 0:11:09.679 --> 0:11:11.480 I didn't have a soul, I could just do that. 0:11:12.320 --> 0:11:16.600 And so I answer yes both because I see change 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:20.080 happening and I watch the genius of communities coming together 0:11:20.120 --> 0:11:23.200 and saying we will demand better, we will insist on more, 0:11:23.960 --> 0:11:27.760 and because that is the only option that makes living 0:11:27.800 --> 0:11:30.439 the way that I'm trying to live makes sense, living 0:11:30.480 --> 0:11:33.440 with any kind of hope, looking at babies and saying 0:11:34.520 --> 0:11:36.840 not just I'm sorry for what we're giving you, but 0:11:37.080 --> 0:11:40.120 I think you can make this place better, literally looking 0:11:40.160 --> 0:11:43.680 at my god kids and saying that that it's required 0:11:43.720 --> 0:11:45.959 for me to believe it can be and to work 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:49.920 so that that's true. Yeah. Now, I believe that optimism 0:11:49.920 --> 0:11:51.599 in the face of reality is a revolutionary act, and 0:11:51.600 --> 0:11:53.240 I try and be a little bit of a revolutionary 0:11:53.240 --> 0:11:56.600 every day. Right, So I'm not trying to sugarcoat stuff. 0:11:56.880 --> 0:12:01.400 But if we're talking about is it possible, Slavery wasn't 0:12:01.480 --> 0:12:04.920 ended till it was right, Voting rights weren't secured until 0:12:04.960 --> 0:12:08.000 they were. Now they're not. We're gonna do it again, right, 0:12:08.120 --> 0:12:10.440 all the things that weren't possible. You think about it. 0:12:10.640 --> 0:12:13.440 The moon was just something up in the sky for 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:17.080 a long time throughout all of human history, and then 0:12:17.120 --> 0:12:20.280 a small group of folks got a bunch of resources 0:12:20.679 --> 0:12:22.720 and the will of the people to say, let's go. 0:12:23.440 --> 0:12:26.400 And now that's a thing that probably in the next 0:12:26.440 --> 0:12:29.440 twenty years you can buy a ticket to. You can 0:12:29.480 --> 0:12:32.480 buy a ticket to the moon. This thing that doesn't 0:12:32.480 --> 0:12:35.680 have oxygen doesn't exist within our earth. The things that 0:12:35.760 --> 0:12:40.679 humanity can do when we decide it is required are amazing. 0:12:41.040 --> 0:12:45.200 We dream about technology, and we dream about power, But 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:48.600 when do we dream about a better society? What does 0:12:48.640 --> 0:12:52.800 democracy look like twenty thirty forty one hundred, five hundred 0:12:52.880 --> 0:12:55.200 years from now? How have we set ourselves up to 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:58.560 be better? When we start dreaming about freedom not just 0:12:58.600 --> 0:13:01.600 for ourselves, but as the the root construct of what 0:13:01.640 --> 0:13:04.320 we're going to gift to the next generation. I imagine 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:06.840 that we can take ourselves to the Moon, to Mars, 0:13:07.040 --> 0:13:10.840 to solar systems we can't even see with the naked eye. 0:13:11.520 --> 0:13:14.400 In terms of how we keep ourselves safe, I know 0:13:14.600 --> 0:13:18.440 that's possible, because humanity does the impossible all the goddamn time. 0:13:18.600 --> 0:13:20.480 It's just we've done it for the wrong reasons and 0:13:20.559 --> 0:13:31.720 for the wrong set of people. Optimism in the face 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.560 of reality is a revolutionary act. Every week on Woke 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.720 a f daily, I strive to leave my listeners with 0:13:37.800 --> 0:13:40.439 the message of hope and positivity so that we aren't 0:13:40.480 --> 0:13:42.400 defeated by the fight in front of us. I hope 0:13:42.440 --> 0:13:44.839 you can let Phillips the words carry you forward, as 0:13:44.880 --> 0:13:47.560 the mere act of remaining optimistic in the face of 0:13:47.559 --> 0:13:51.600 our grim, oppressive reality is itself a sign of strength. 0:13:52.080 --> 0:13:54.120 But I also wanted to leave you this week with 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:56.920 my own thoughts on the schaubun verdict and what this 0:13:57.040 --> 0:14:00.120 case says about the state of policing in America. Do 0:14:00.160 --> 0:14:03.560 we need to defend? Do we need to abolish? Keep listening, friends, 0:14:03.600 --> 0:14:08.640 and hear my two cents, I thought to myself yesterday, 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:17.640 as I know many people have, which is about Darnella Frasier. 0:14:20.440 --> 0:14:28.760 If not for Darnella Frasier's video, the seventeen year old 0:14:28.800 --> 0:14:34.000 now eighteen year old young woman who recorded George Floyd's 0:14:34.080 --> 0:14:40.400 death murder and uploaded it to social media, if it 0:14:40.480 --> 0:14:49.360 had not been for her her bravery, her courage, her 0:14:49.440 --> 0:14:53.200 quick thinking, recognizing that there wasn't much that she could do, 0:14:53.280 --> 0:15:01.440 but she's sure as hell could record it. Listening to 0:15:01.480 --> 0:15:06.680 her break down on the stand about the apologies that 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:09.920 she sends up in prayer to George Floyd that she 0:15:10.040 --> 0:15:18.560 didn't do enough. Yesterday, she did the most because for 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:23.720 the first time in the history of that city, the 0:15:23.920 --> 0:15:29.240 history of that state, a white police officer was held 0:15:29.280 --> 0:15:41.200 accountable from murdering a black person in cold blood. Darnella 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:44.440 Frasier's action did that. But what's worse, folks, is that 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:50.280 it shouldn't have had to. In too many instances, it 0:15:50.360 --> 0:15:53.680 doesn't matter whether or not we have cameras and have 0:15:53.840 --> 0:16:04.000 recorded because accountability is always elusive when it comes to 0:16:04.080 --> 0:16:15.880 black lives. Too many times we've been told that the 0:16:15.960 --> 0:16:21.080 homicides that we've seen or read about have been justifiable 0:16:21.760 --> 0:16:25.560 because they are at the hands of police officers. But 0:16:25.680 --> 0:16:27.680 what we know to be true, and what we need 0:16:27.840 --> 0:16:31.800 to remind ourselves of, is that Derek Chauvin is not 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:37.640 a bad apple. Derek Chauvin is the product of a 0:16:37.800 --> 0:16:43.760 poisoned orchard that spans the entirety of the United States. 0:16:46.680 --> 0:16:54.560 To dismiss the systemic violence that is prevalent in police 0:16:54.560 --> 0:17:01.680 departments across this country is to ignore the true problem 0:17:04.840 --> 0:17:13.520 in pursuit of a quick fix, which is to make 0:17:13.720 --> 0:17:22.639 Derek Chauvin an anomaly as opposed to a shift and 0:17:22.920 --> 0:17:33.200 necessary shift in policing. Now, I am of the mindset 0:17:36.680 --> 0:17:40.600 that policing in this country is too far broken for 0:17:40.760 --> 0:17:47.879 it to be quote unquote reformed. I believe that it 0:17:47.920 --> 0:17:53.199 needs to be abolished. I believe that police need to 0:17:53.200 --> 0:17:58.080 be defunded the way that we have been defunding public education, 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.560 our healthcare system, and social services across this country for decades, 0:18:04.160 --> 0:18:07.119 which is why police have become the catch all for 0:18:07.240 --> 0:18:10.359 things that society refuses to deal with that they have 0:18:10.480 --> 0:18:26.480 fucking caused. What I continue to say is that this country, 0:18:28.800 --> 0:18:33.840 everything that we are seeing unfold is purposeful. We're the 0:18:33.880 --> 0:18:38.760 eleventh wealthiest nation in the world. We are also the 0:18:38.880 --> 0:18:46.520 leaders in incarceration, police killings, death by gun, and every 0:18:46.520 --> 0:18:54.600 other thing fucking wrong. Where are we exceptional, I guess 0:18:54.640 --> 0:18:59.520 for in our love of guns and our love of violence, 0:19:00.640 --> 0:19:07.719 in our love of trauma. Folks, I hope that you 0:19:07.760 --> 0:19:12.359 can find some solace in the outcome of this case. 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:24.480 But do remember that it took an international uprising activists 0:19:24.480 --> 0:19:30.760 in the streets, the courage and dedication of the Floyd family, 0:19:32.960 --> 0:19:37.000 the bravery of a seventeen year old black girl named 0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:43.000 Darnella Frasier, the bravery of the witnesses that took the 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:47.600 stand to tell the truth about what they saw and 0:19:47.720 --> 0:19:52.360 who they were. Not an angry mob, as the defense 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:55.879 would have had us believe, but a group of concerned 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:59.840 citizens watching the life being squeezed out of one of 0:19:59.880 --> 0:20:09.640 the their own. Take a deep sigh of relief that 0:20:09.680 --> 0:20:13.320 we as a collective can create the change that is necessary. 0:20:13.359 --> 0:20:16.679 But the amount of work that lies ahead of us 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:25.840 to rid ourselves of the poisonous way policing exists in 0:20:25.880 --> 0:20:39.160 this country will take all of us. The most important 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.239 thing I can say, and it's something I tell my 0:20:41.280 --> 0:20:44.439 listeners on almost a daily basis, is to take care 0:20:44.640 --> 0:20:47.879 of yourself. You don't have to watch every video or 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.199 follow every hashtag. We know what's going on in this 0:20:51.280 --> 0:20:53.200 country and we know what's going to take a lot 0:20:53.240 --> 0:20:55.840 of work to change things for the better. Do not 0:20:56.040 --> 0:20:59.000 give up, but that includes not giving up on yourself. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:01.959 As I always say, make sure you take breaks so 0:21:02.000 --> 0:21:04.800 that you don't have a breakdown. I hope this message 0:21:04.840 --> 0:21:07.000 carries you through until the next time you hear me, 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:09.800 and as always, I do hope to see you over 0:21:09.920 --> 0:21:13.680 on Patreon at patreon dot com slash woke AF. I'm 0:21:13.720 --> 0:21:15.960 working on even more ways to stay connected with the 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.040 WOKEA family, and I would love, love love for you 0:21:19.119 --> 0:21:21.760 to join us on that journey. Power to the people 0:21:21.840 --> 0:21:25.000 and to all the people. Power, get woke and stay 0:21:25.240 --> 0:21:25.960 woke as fuck.