Speaker 1: Welcome back. All the Smoke Unplugged show number three coming
Speaker 1: to me. I'm always in La, but my brother Jack
Speaker 1: is in this hotel in La. Crazy story. So we
Speaker 1: just come back from New York. I get home, the
Speaker 1: nanny comes to me and the brand new computer that
Speaker 1: all the new shit we got for this show. Nanny says,
Speaker 1: I don't know how it happened, but your Ashton took
Speaker 1: a bath and somehow your computer ended up in the tub.
Speaker 1: So my shit is shot. I'm coming to you from
Speaker 1: my phone today. Anyway, life is still good. We got
Speaker 1: the dog Father, the one and only legendary Snoop. After
Speaker 1: this show, we're heading out to the compound. He's got
Speaker 1: Underdogs coming out, a new movie on Amazon Prime. Definitely
Speaker 1: looking forward to catching up with him and checking up
Speaker 1: that movie. Jack was good, Man, you came straight from
Speaker 1: New York to La.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, Man, and I think we're standing for putting
Speaker 2: me right while I'm at Man, it's comfortable.
Speaker 3: It's comfortable as hell in this hotel.
Speaker 2: I've been getting up on my rest the last two
Speaker 2: days ready to work.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 2: I needed I needed to reboot, and Christina put me
Speaker 2: in a perfect location.
Speaker 1: Obviously, Jr. And Snoop those are boot those be two
Speaker 1: time offenders, had about two hundred and fifteen plus episodes.
Speaker 1: Anyone else you want to see? You wanted to get
Speaker 1: your hands on again? Pause? Get him back on the
Speaker 1: show for second round?
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I got I got two. I got two requests.
Speaker 2: I would love to get Jamie Fox back on the show.
Speaker 1: And I think, remember how much he had us laughing before,
Speaker 1: and not to cut you off, how much we were
Speaker 1: laughing before we even started.
Speaker 2: Imagine that in person, love it. That'd be crazy too.
Speaker 2: I want to get Prime back on the show. Got
Speaker 2: to get primed.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well I talked to Prime. Yeah, he said he's
Speaker 1: definitely gonna sit down with us. So I just sat
Speaker 1: a couple of days ago, so we're definitely locking there.
Speaker 1: Mine would be Kevin Hart had me laughing, bro Yes,
Speaker 1: RT had me laughing, And then I would say, any
Speaker 1: of the you need the COVID shows we did, I
Speaker 1: mean we had CP three, we had dray Mondmember, we
Speaker 1: had E forty and Short the same time. I love
Speaker 1: to have them in person and get the fellowship. So anyway,
Speaker 1: we're gonna start getting round two of some folks. Great
Speaker 1: trip New York, Jack first and foremost, got a chance
Speaker 1: to sit down with John Skipper and Dan levittark you know,
Speaker 1: shout out the Metal Art team. Really excited about just
Speaker 1: teaming up with them and picking their brain, leaning on them,
Speaker 1: utilizing their resources. You know, they said to us, and
Speaker 1: I already knew, but you know, we bring a different
Speaker 1: dimension to what they do and they definitely value that.
Speaker 1: So I'm looking forward to that. I know you had
Speaker 1: conversations with both of them.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm excited.
Speaker 2: Man, Like you said, we bring another dimension, but we
Speaker 2: more like than we knew, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: We got a lot of the same goals, and like
Speaker 2: I told them, mar the fact that they want to
Speaker 2: see us win and build what we're trying to build
Speaker 2: and what in the back does and give us the
Speaker 2: room to do it. I mean, that's no better appreciation
Speaker 2: to that. So to them, I just wanted to let
Speaker 2: them know that we're going to do our job and
Speaker 2: we appreciate had been believing in us. But this is
Speaker 2: the dream team put together. They better they better watch out.
Speaker 2: We coming crazy.
Speaker 1: Uh, you know it's crazy to me. That makes me smile.
Speaker 1: I've been thinking about ever since. I mean, we just
Speaker 1: got we just got blessed with an amazing new drive
Speaker 1: from the DraftKings, and Dan said, oh this this, this
Speaker 1: money you just got is nothing. Oh shit, talk to me,
Speaker 1: talk to me. So now definitely excited to team up
Speaker 1: to them guys and look for us Man twenty twenty
Speaker 1: four were coming through. Yes, sir Jack stout out to
Speaker 1: our brother Donnis has Them who just recently got his
Speaker 1: jersey retired in Miami. You went out and gave him
Speaker 1: a shout out, gave him his flowers, said it was
Speaker 1: well deserved. And then our guy uh P Square Paul
Speaker 1: Pierce Chi Burt Paul said it was given opposed to earned. Obviously,
Speaker 1: I fuck with Paul heavy. We work out every day.
Speaker 1: You d and I came into the league together. When
Speaker 1: you saw what well, first of all thoughts like UD
Speaker 1: getting his Dredgey.
Speaker 2: Retired, I mean, like I said, felt like it's an
Speaker 2: honor for him because it felt like all the real
Speaker 2: ones you know that that will never see that day.
Speaker 3: It felt like we got our jersey retired.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, He's a definition of solid
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, the definition to stand on
Speaker 2: his moral he Laurel A. Lawyer, he'd been there for
Speaker 2: a long time, got multiple championship. He played his role
Speaker 2: to a t. We always talk about being a star
Speaker 2: on your at your role.
Speaker 3: He is. He's the mascot of that.
Speaker 2: So for what he's done for the city, being a
Speaker 2: hometown board, for being lawyer, the relationship he has with
Speaker 2: pat Rolly, what he's done to the team, the relationship
Speaker 2: we had, he has with the guys that come through there,
Speaker 2: and that's respected by the guys who come through there
Speaker 2: and won championships. Nobody deserves more the UD. So I
Speaker 2: just wanted to give miss Flowers from a real one
Speaker 2: to a real one. You know, I felt like my
Speaker 2: jersey got retired on that day.
Speaker 1: I love that, And I mean, if you think about
Speaker 1: his story, man, that's a fucking dream. Undrafted, three time
Speaker 1: champion right in your hometown. You played twenty years, an
Speaker 1: integral part, you know, played his key role, played his
Speaker 1: part like you said in the first championship. And then
Speaker 1: what I want to give him a shout out for,
Speaker 1: to me is the hardest part of what he did
Speaker 1: was sitting there knowing he's not gonna play and still
Speaker 1: have the right attitude energy, help direct the young boys,
Speaker 1: help keep the organization, you know, doing his part to
Speaker 1: keep the organization on track because Jack, you know, like
Speaker 1: it's hard. I mean it's hard for me to send
Speaker 1: on the bench and coach my kids. I couldn't imagine
Speaker 1: you know, sitting with all due respect, maybe his last
Speaker 1: four or five years he didn't get a chance to play,
Speaker 1: you know, play as much or hardly, but he kept
Speaker 1: the right energy, the right spirit. Remember he checked and
Speaker 1: always had to put hands on Jimmy at one point,
Speaker 1: and I think that team needed that. So to me,
Speaker 1: just a consemmate pro man twenty years again, three chips,
Speaker 1: definitely shout out to our brother ud now to the bullshit.
Speaker 3: Always Ball did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so what were your thoughts? You know when
Speaker 1: you've seen O G. Burn, you know, say what he.
Speaker 2: Said, you know, man, one thing about us, man, And
Speaker 2: you know that's why people come at us a lot.
Speaker 2: We cool with disagreeing. Like you can disagree with us,
Speaker 2: It don't bother us, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: when P said that pe entitled his opinion, but at
Speaker 2: the same time, you know what I'm saying, I look
Speaker 2: at it totally different. You know, Pep had his battles
Speaker 2: with them guys. You know what I'm saying. They they
Speaker 2: probably got some type of beef for some type of
Speaker 2: some type of situation from when they played. I don't know,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. They both my partners. But
Speaker 2: regardless how somebody else feels about somebody, I don't dictate
Speaker 2: me showing them love or how I feel about it.
Speaker 2: You know, they got their own thing. I don't get
Speaker 2: people shit.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean no, No, they definitely got smoke. I
Speaker 1: think on U D and Mike Miller's podcast, their new
Speaker 1: podcasts Ogs or something like that. Give me for mispronouncement,
Speaker 1: That ain't it, he said, And I just saw the clip.
Speaker 1: I didn't see the episode. He said, he'll it's on
Speaker 1: site still with Ticket and Paul that he would slap
Speaker 1: him in the grocery store or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: So I guess that was just kind that was kind
Speaker 1: of just I think that was just PE's rebuttal and
Speaker 1: to be honest with you, obviously, I don't want to
Speaker 1: see no funk, but I think it's funny. I think
Speaker 1: it's dope. Again, them guys battled, you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: And it went back and forth, and you know, won
Speaker 1: championships and lost championships because of each other. So I
Speaker 1: think it's good to see a little bit of old man,
Speaker 1: you know, reliving the glory days and talking this shit.
Speaker 1: But you know, I definitely think again. Obviously Ud is
Speaker 1: not a Hall of Famer, but he's a role player
Speaker 1: and he's a leader, and that's what I respect him.
Speaker 1: Like you said, a lot of us will never see that,
Speaker 1: but we're similar.
Speaker 3: Hey, let me say one with thing.
Speaker 2: If any player that comes to the NBA could be
Speaker 2: a lifer with any organization, they would love that.
Speaker 3: They would die for that.
Speaker 1: Come on, man, a.
Speaker 2: Team you played for, you pled for and gave championship too,
Speaker 2: and you still can be a part of it when
Speaker 2: you retire and still make good money. Like every player
Speaker 2: will want that, So don't knock you d for that.
Speaker 1: And keeping really like Jack in your hometown, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean? Like how like you still at the
Speaker 1: crib too, So it's just like that, Like you live
Speaker 1: in another city, bro, you in where you grew up at,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I love his story,
Speaker 1: I love his journey and definitely happy for him. Uh,
Speaker 1: speaking of Jersey's going up, Jack, there's still some jerseys
Speaker 1: of Hall of Fame players that that that haven't been
Speaker 1: retired yet. One is obviously BC half man, half amazing,
Speaker 1: our brother, Vince Carter in Toronto, that jersey's not retired,
Speaker 1: which is fucking crazy. Kevin Garnett in Minnesota, that jersey's
Speaker 1: not retired. Fucking crazy. Dwight Howard in Orlando. Unincredible, incredible. Again,
Speaker 1: we always had, you know, we always shut out Dwight
Speaker 1: because you know, we know how good he really was.
Speaker 1: And I got a chance to play with him, and
Speaker 1: that dude's nothing to play with. But he doesn't have
Speaker 1: his jersey, uh retired in Orlando. Unbelievable thoughts on thoughts
Speaker 1: on those three guys right there, And I'm sure there's
Speaker 1: more of a missing some, but just those three come
Speaker 1: to come to name.
Speaker 3: You know, just Vince alone.
Speaker 2: The Nets and motherfucking Toronto should have been retired. Ben Jersey, Like,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the fuck is going on that,
Speaker 2: Like some people would just never be drafted by first
Speaker 2: team all common sense, bro, they did, they would never
Speaker 2: be on that team.
Speaker 3: It don't make sense. And KG like what y'all waiting for?
Speaker 2: I don't I don't understand is that these three people
Speaker 2: you named, it doesn't even make sense why these people
Speaker 2: Jersey are not retired. But what they did for the game,
Speaker 2: for they did for these organizations, it's like stupid not
Speaker 2: you know. I even throw one more person in there,
Speaker 2: dog and I really, I really feel like this, this
Speaker 2: person Jersey needs to be retired too. I feel like
Speaker 2: San Antonio need to retire Elite Rose Jersey. I really
Speaker 2: feel like that. But what he did for the organization
Speaker 2: at the time he was there.
Speaker 1: Okay, shit, if you say so, I mean people are
Speaker 1: gonna be like, why Jack, what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: It will explain what you know, explain why or what
Speaker 1: he did or how important you felt he was to
Speaker 1: keeping things together.
Speaker 3: Well he wasn't.
Speaker 2: He wasn't there for allow those championships. But the time
Speaker 2: he was there, he was asked to play a big role.
Speaker 2: David I was there and I seen it. David Robinson
Speaker 2: was hurt, he was having back surgery, and they asked
Speaker 2: Malik to play center. You remember around the time Tim
Speaker 2: Tim didn't want to be a center. He always wanted
Speaker 2: to be a power forward. So the league at six
Speaker 2: six had to play a center. The league played center
Speaker 2: the whole year for two years when David was in
Speaker 2: and out, and then the year he had to play
Speaker 2: center when Day was hurt most of the year.
Speaker 3: We end up winning the championship.
Speaker 2: So for what he'd done in the role he played
Speaker 2: when David Robinson couldn't play at the end of his career,
Speaker 2: when they still was depending on him, he stepped up
Speaker 2: big time at sixty six and played center and power forward.
Speaker 1: On top of everything you mentioned, He's just a great
Speaker 1: human being.
Speaker 3: Great dude. He's working in the league now. I think
Speaker 3: for the Hearts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I know seventy sixons are the Hawks one
Speaker 2: of them?
Speaker 1: Yeah, shout out Malik Rose. Great dude, something new, which
Speaker 1: I kind of like Jack, because you know, we know
Speaker 1: and we don't want to sound like these all motherfuckers
Speaker 1: are talking about back when I played. But when we played,
Speaker 1: you know, it wasn't as friendly of a league as
Speaker 1: it is now, and we were friends or guys could
Speaker 1: be friends, but on the court it was war, you know.
Speaker 1: And I think this is not just the NB. I
Speaker 1: think overall AU. I see it like all these kids
Speaker 1: are close, and all these guys are close, and these
Speaker 1: guys the leagues are close. So I say all that
Speaker 1: to say, Aunt Man and Shae got into it the
Speaker 1: other night, and I think it was good, but I'm
Speaker 1: kind of break down what happened. That was the game
Speaker 1: where you know it was a back and forth game.
Speaker 1: Ant got fouled down the stretch and missed all three
Speaker 1: free throws, which winning can't do that first and foremost.
Speaker 1: And it's one of my favorite players though, but Shay
Speaker 1: is also one of my favorite players. I think Shae
Speaker 1: finished with thirty four. How many Shaye have? They had
Speaker 1: thirty three and Ant had nineteen. But then postgame is
Speaker 1: work kind of got funny where Ant says you can't
Speaker 1: touch him or any touch them at any time during
Speaker 1: the game. It's super hard to beat. The team is
Speaker 1: a good team, especially when they get calls like that.
Speaker 1: Shave follows up, and one thing about Shad is he
Speaker 1: just doesn't really do too much talking period.
Speaker 3: He just drops the ball like he just hoops bro.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and all his captions and his igs are normally
Speaker 1: a bar or a gym. So Shae follows up with
Speaker 1: the crypto caption that says, they talk about me and
Speaker 1: the they talk about me for my post game, not
Speaker 1: my post game talk about the niggas code in the
Speaker 1: post and you don't have to worry about what he's
Speaker 1: saying in the post game. So I think that was
Speaker 1: obviously a little shot at But tell me, how good
Speaker 1: do you think this is for the comedy, especially with
Speaker 1: two of the best players in the world going at
Speaker 1: each other.
Speaker 2: Great for the league. I love the competition. You know,
Speaker 2: we know both. We know both of these young kids
Speaker 2: are stars and the futures of the league and stand
Speaker 2: up kids. We know it ain't gonna it ain't gonna
Speaker 2: go no farther than the court. So that's why I
Speaker 2: love it. I know it's just basketball, but a man
Speaker 2: I got him and a man both fighting for m
Speaker 2: v P. But and man, this some this some this
Speaker 2: some game from yo, g bro. When you miss three
Speaker 2: free throws to send the game in overtime or to
Speaker 2: win it, you can't say nothing in the post game.
Speaker 3: You just star. You just start.
Speaker 2: So three the three free throws, that's what you should
Speaker 2: be harping on. You shouldn't be harping on the files
Speaker 2: that that that shot got. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 2: because you went to the line a lot too. So
Speaker 2: just just some free game, no hate, Just give me
Speaker 2: some game. Take care what you take care? You get
Speaker 2: them three free throws, the game might end different, but
Speaker 2: I like it.
Speaker 3: I love it.
Speaker 2: I like both of them. They both they both my
Speaker 2: two front runners for MVP.
Speaker 1: Yeah, to your point, I mean Shay had thirteen free
Speaker 1: throw A tempts and had ten, so it was right there.
Speaker 1: But again, my favorite thing about all this is SGA
Speaker 1: is only twenty five and then it is only twenty two,
Speaker 1: so this, this is going to keep going, and I'm
Speaker 1: definitely looking forward to it. Jack, something interesting out of
Speaker 1: San Antonio. Somewhere you win a championship. Spurs staffers don't
Speaker 1: text when min Yama past nine thirty because they know
Speaker 1: he'll be in bed reading. So I guess he's on
Speaker 1: a real strict routine of just you know, figuring out
Speaker 1: what his routine is while he's in the NBA. All
Speaker 1: of us have routine, but this guy, I guess he's
Speaker 1: he's to the point he's sticking to us something that
Speaker 1: he came up with where you know he's in bed
Speaker 1: by nine thirty reading, and then I guess lights out.
Speaker 1: I kind of laughed again. First of all, before we
Speaker 1: before we say anything else, we respect the shit out
Speaker 1: of this. We just laughed because it was so far
Speaker 1: from what we were. But Jack think, you know, thoughts
Speaker 1: on his you know, his discipline, his routine and you
Speaker 1: know whether that a serving well or.
Speaker 2: Not a man, stick to your routine, stick to your routine,
Speaker 2: that the best for you. Because they tried to give
Speaker 2: us all the books, and the ones that didn't read
Speaker 2: the books didn't stay there and Longe so my game
Speaker 2: was read the book. Act like you know what that
Speaker 2: was going on in that motherfucker. When you ask questions
Speaker 2: about it, you better know it. Because the ones that
Speaker 2: didn't read the books, that was out in the club
Speaker 2: with me and doing all that they got out of
Speaker 2: San Antonio real fast. I wasn't reading book. If I
Speaker 2: wanted to read the book, I would have went to college.
Speaker 1: But whether it's read a book or read books or
Speaker 1: that's just his thing. I mean, that's his thing, and
Speaker 1: again I respect it. You know, one of our producers
Speaker 1: Texas this morning, when we talk about the story and
Speaker 1: he said what were you doing? What were you guys
Speaker 1: doing at ninet thirty? I said, smoking, drinking and enjoying
Speaker 1: the female company.
Speaker 2: So maybe he can be Cat Williams record and reading books,
Speaker 2: didn't Cat Williams say, you're like nine thousand books or
Speaker 2: some shit like that.
Speaker 1: A year for six thousand years since he was little
Speaker 1: shut out Cat. After all, this ship dies down because
Speaker 1: again I don't want to do it for you know
Speaker 1: obviously what he did and fifty million views on the show,
Speaker 1: like I don't want to do it for the wrong
Speaker 1: reasons and the drama. Cat is just my homie for real.
Speaker 1: Yeah remember yet?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, that was it. That was a movie I was producing,
Speaker 1: Meet the Blacks, you know what I mean. I was
Speaker 1: out there fucking with my man, Deon Taylor. That was
Speaker 1: the first time Deon Broughtcat and Mike together and I
Speaker 1: hit Jack out in Atlanta. Cat is just a funny mother,
Speaker 1: him and Mike, Him and Mike apps for the first
Speaker 1: time back together. There was so much joke talking and
Speaker 1: ship talking. Bro. It was so much fun. So I
Speaker 1: just want to sit down with Cat soon once the
Speaker 1: dust settles, and just chop it up and check in
Speaker 1: with him, man, especially after I seen him taking a
Speaker 1: shirt off and run that forty their boys.
Speaker 2: Fay and and I've seen him with my own eyes.
Speaker 2: I seen him twenty blunts and he didn't roll not
Speaker 2: one of them.
Speaker 1: Oh heavy heavy. I went out. I went out and
Speaker 1: stayed with him one time out in Atlanta, and we
Speaker 1: golfed and everything. But when I tell you, like Bro
Speaker 1: has what he says he has, like the women around
Speaker 1: and women rolling, and like they worked for him, it's
Speaker 1: it's a far It's a well oiled machine. And we
Speaker 1: went out in golf and I played better than him.
Speaker 3: Bro.
Speaker 1: He was so mad that I was playing better. He
Speaker 1: was cussing. He was mad as fuck. But uh, anyway,
Speaker 1: man shout out our dog Cat Williams. So I don't
Speaker 1: know how we got on it, but uh, definitely looking
Speaker 1: forward to catching up with him soon. Something really dope,
Speaker 1: you know. Obviously, Chris Repers, my og you know, took
Speaker 1: me under it took me under his wing when I
Speaker 1: was in college and would come home in Sacrament on
Speaker 1: work in the summertime and and and you know made
Speaker 1: me leave a guaranteed deal to go play with sac
Speaker 1: at you know, at the end of their run. And
Speaker 1: then I was a throw in trade when he went
Speaker 1: to Philly and really kind of came like a big
Speaker 1: brother father figure to me. But most recently the Fab
Speaker 1: five was back together in Michigan, the whole, the whole squad. Uh.
Speaker 1: Great to see those guys back Jack. You know, obviously
Speaker 1: there's you know, we're not sure exactly what it was,
Speaker 1: but Javin and Webb were see an eye of eye
Speaker 1: for a while. But you know, obviously Juwan Howard over
Speaker 1: there coaching. They said, Jim Harball is instrumental, and you know,
Speaker 1: getting Web back on campus is what we heard. Not
Speaker 1: sure if that was the truth or not. But when
Speaker 1: you see all these guys back together and know what
Speaker 1: they meant for us growing up and what they meant
Speaker 1: for culture, what are your thoughts?
Speaker 3: I loved it, bro.
Speaker 2: I love to see them back together, not only the
Speaker 2: Fab five and what they meant to us growing up,
Speaker 2: and you know, being able to be showing us that
Speaker 2: where you're from or regardless of how you grow up,
Speaker 2: played basketball and where you'll shorts and be who you are.
Speaker 2: But also you know, they had two guys. You can't
Speaker 2: you can't have nothing fabulous without having somebody from Texas.
Speaker 2: And they had two guys from Texas, you know, Ray
Speaker 2: and Jimmy, both guys from Texas, both a little older
Speaker 2: than me, guys that were starts in Texas on the
Speaker 2: high school scene when we were coming up. So it
Speaker 2: was good to see those guys come back. I hope
Speaker 2: they all get they just do. And I hope some
Speaker 2: kind of way that these guys can get some type
Speaker 2: of benefit back from all the stuff that was stole
Speaker 2: from them over the years, you know, the money to endorsements,
Speaker 2: all the stuff that they did for the game that
Speaker 2: a lot of players in schools are benefiting from them down.
Speaker 2: I think they deserve some type of jazz do so
Speaker 2: to see them back together, hopefully that inspire somebody to
Speaker 2: put them back in the game, some type of way put.
Speaker 1: Their abandons up. Man, was that two Final four runs
Speaker 1: two years before? These guys bounce? So uh and then
Speaker 1: another Now I've been talking shit to web because obviously
Speaker 1: the Detroit Lions are coming to then we're going to
Speaker 1: get to that a little bit later, but coming to
Speaker 1: coming to the Bay to get down with the Niners.
Speaker 1: But when they won their first playoff game, I hear, well,
Speaker 1: was they congratulations to your state, your city, and your family,
Speaker 1: and he hit me back rolling. I mean, there's such
Speaker 1: die hard Detroiters that the fact that the Lions are
Speaker 1: popping now so so obviously after seeing you know, however
Speaker 1: long there you know, there was disconnection with the Fab five.
Speaker 1: Makes me think, Jack, is there any rivalries or people
Speaker 1: that are kind of beefing, whether it be sports or
Speaker 1: any cross across sports in general, that you would like
Speaker 1: to see, you know, squash it? You know, you see
Speaker 1: MJ and Barkley, you know at one point were best friends.
Speaker 1: You know, Charles talked about it, We had them on
Speaker 1: the show. They have a little fun obviously, MJ and Isaiah.
Speaker 1: Isaiah talked about it on the show. Uh, you know
Speaker 1: they have some smoke Russe and KD. Not really sure
Speaker 1: what that was, where that's at, but they were incredible
Speaker 1: when we're together. Any other that you think of or
Speaker 1: just thoughts in general on you know, these guys squashing
Speaker 1: it and moving forward. Uh?
Speaker 2: For me, you know two people that I admire, two
Speaker 2: people you know that I looked up to in basketball.
Speaker 3: I want Scottie and uh MJ to to fix that.
Speaker 2: I think it's important for them to respect each other,
Speaker 2: to have a relationship for what they've done for the game.
Speaker 2: You can't you can't think about Mike without Scotty. You
Speaker 2: can't think about Scotty without Mike. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: So the fact that it's a little friction and all
Speaker 2: the stuff that's going on with the family and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, which we that we really don't know all of,
Speaker 2: but we know it's not where it should be, the
Speaker 2: brotherhood where it should be, you know, with Mike and Pip.
Speaker 2: I hopefully they can they can come back and fix
Speaker 2: their relationship because I think the world want to see
Speaker 2: that one.
Speaker 1: That's a good call. I got a chance to sit
Speaker 1: with Pip the other night because our kids played against
Speaker 1: each other in a high school game, and you know,
Speaker 1: we chopped it up. Definitely didn't discuss that, but yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I would agree. But you know, I think
Speaker 1: the cold part is Jack that I don't really think
Speaker 1: Mike gives a fuck.
Speaker 3: No, he don't, just.
Speaker 1: Gives a fun, right, So you know the fact that
Speaker 1: I think it would be good for the sport and
Speaker 1: good for all of us. And obviously you never want
Speaker 1: to leave on on bad terms, you know, with someone
Speaker 1: you love, because tomorrow is never guaranteed. You know. You
Speaker 1: see Shack kind of saying how much he regrets kind
Speaker 1: of leaving, you know, stones unturned with Cod before Cob.
Speaker 1: You know, unfortunately left us. So you never really want
Speaker 1: to see that because you know, like you said, you know,
Speaker 1: all these guys are great and it would be great
Speaker 1: to move past it. But another point, we just know Mike.
Speaker 1: It seemed like Mike don't really give a fuck about
Speaker 1: none of that. Anything we say. He don't give a
Speaker 1: fuck about that. I am Bucket n C Double A man,
Speaker 1: the n C Double A. This story is crazy as fuck.
Speaker 1: N C Double A just rewarded two players the ninth
Speaker 1: season of competition. What the fuck is going on? Jack?
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let you get into this first, but I
Speaker 1: really have an opinion on this and I don't like
Speaker 1: it at all, But go ahead.
Speaker 2: I'm honored to make this announcement on all the Smoke today.
Speaker 2: You know, this is something that I've been thinking about,
Speaker 2: you know, and I wanted to do it for a while.
Speaker 3: I never thought about it.
Speaker 2: But the fact that this news came out with the
Speaker 2: guy getting this ninth year, you know, with me thinking,
Speaker 2: you know a long time on it and talking to
Speaker 2: y'all about it. I'm gonna use my four years in
Speaker 2: college and I'm gonna come back and play football. I
Speaker 2: haven't I haven't said anything to anyone but this is
Speaker 2: a news flash.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: I know it's gonna go viral. When I said prime,
Speaker 2: I'm actually working out getting ready. I see uh you know,
Speaker 2: I see, I see you still asking people to come
Speaker 2: to the school. So think about my wee homeboys. I
Speaker 2: don't want no favors. Just let me come out dam
Speaker 2: practice and show you what I could do. I know
Speaker 2: they got a new coach.
Speaker 1: You also said, Jack, Jack, not to cut you off.
Speaker 1: You said you're not the full field though, where only
Speaker 1: you're gonna only be used in one area.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, you know, all teams if you look forward
Speaker 2: to bring me to your program. I've always been starting
Speaker 2: my role. I know what I'm good at. As you see,
Speaker 2: we've been successful, you know, for a long time. So
Speaker 2: I know what I'm good at. And at this point
Speaker 2: in my life and age, I'm a red zone receiver
Speaker 2: ten yards in.
Speaker 3: Give it a shot at the.
Speaker 2: Corner, throw it up. If I can't grab it on
Speaker 2: one or two downs, just sit me down.
Speaker 3: I know my role.
Speaker 2: I can't make it all the way up the field.
Speaker 2: I'm not coming across the middle, only in the end zone.
Speaker 2: So for all the schools that's out there that are
Speaker 2: looking for an athletic UH six and thirty pound receiver
Speaker 2: that can catch h that's not scared, that's that's a
Speaker 2: known champion on every level he's played on.
Speaker 3: Think about bringing me in to your school, but Prime,
Speaker 3: I'm here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he also blows dope and is not a very
Speaker 1: good student. But I don't know if any of those matter.
Speaker 1: I don't know if any of those matters. I don't
Speaker 1: know if any of that shit matters. But if we
Speaker 1: just talk about fantasy, I'm all for it. Contact all
Speaker 1: the smoke productions.
Speaker 3: Nine years, Come on, man, nine years. Bro Let me
Speaker 3: use this, oh man, Man, let me get mine.
Speaker 1: Man. I don't like it because we both got kids
Speaker 1: coming through the pipeline stack, and all of them, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll go to college at some point. And you see
Speaker 1: these kids that are twenty three, twenty four, twenty three
Speaker 1: is out the back, twenty four, twenty five, twenties, Like,
Speaker 1: give that shit up, man, Like you're fucking up positions
Speaker 1: for kids that are seventeen or eighteen who are actually
Speaker 1: supposed to be in college. And I understand injuries happen
Speaker 1: and COVID happened, but nine years and this is I'm
Speaker 1: not even disrespecting y'all because this might be your guys,
Speaker 1: it's most like it's gonna be your last run, so
Speaker 1: I feel you. But nine years, like, come on, man,
Speaker 1: lets some young kid come in here and get a chance,
Speaker 1: because the way I look at is they're they're keeping
Speaker 1: one other person from getting an opportunity you having figured
Speaker 1: out in nine years. Bro, if you ain't figured out
Speaker 1: in nine years, with all due respect, it's not gonna happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and you and all you people that's thinking about
Speaker 2: doing that, listen, we know what you're doing. We know
Speaker 2: what you're doing. We know that you know. Once college
Speaker 2: is over, it's over for you. No more sports, no
Speaker 2: more getting picked first, no more jerseys, no more chicks,
Speaker 2: no none of that.
Speaker 3: We get it.
Speaker 2: You're trying to prolong it because you know you're not
Speaker 2: champion a professional talent.
Speaker 3: I get it.
Speaker 2: But if somebody that's gonna come in there and knock
Speaker 2: you out, you spot anyway, bro, But nine years it's crazy, dog.
Speaker 1: And it's not even because like I said, well, I
Speaker 1: don't even like to hate on people at all, but
Speaker 1: like I'm just saying that from a standpoint of like
Speaker 1: I know what kind of how you're clogging up the
Speaker 1: pipeline and how to transfer portals super weird now and
Speaker 1: got dudes staying an extra long. It's just it's just
Speaker 1: too much. Man. You got you know, and you got
Speaker 1: four or five years to prove yourself if you can't
Speaker 1: do it in that amount of time.
Speaker 2: And to my team, I need to pat in this
Speaker 2: because I pad my mother two lines already, but I
Speaker 2: need to patten this. Truth sounds like hate to people
Speaker 2: who hate the truth.
Speaker 3: It ain't hate, Matt, It's just the truth.
Speaker 2: You've been in school too goddamn long.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody hating on you. It's just the truth.
Speaker 1: Bro.
Speaker 3: How many degrees you're gonna get? You ain't enough of.
Speaker 2: Sports like sports people that's in school, that that's going
Speaker 2: to professional level sports three four years, not nine, So
Speaker 2: it's not gonna happen. Truth sounds like I hate to
Speaker 2: people who hate the truth.
Speaker 1: Cheers. Jonathan Majors dropped from the Dennis Rodman movie forty
Speaker 1: eight Hours in Vegas. Lionsgate was set to produce that.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously it's been a huge follout for him
Speaker 1: since the situation with his ex. And we don't really
Speaker 1: have to get into that. But Jack, I didn't really
Speaker 1: play close attention, but I did see the situation when
Speaker 1: they showed the video where he's trying to run away
Speaker 1: from this woman, and somehow, some way, uh, it still
Speaker 1: became an incident. So unfortunate for both people. And again,
Speaker 1: you know, we wish everybody the best, but it seems
Speaker 1: like his opportunities have continued to drop. So we say
Speaker 1: all that to say, if Jonathan Majors isn't playing Dennis Rodman,
Speaker 1: I think I have the perfect person to fill in
Speaker 1: for him.
Speaker 3: Who would that be?
Speaker 1: You? You yah yuack, y'all got y'all got the y'all,
Speaker 1: y'all got the same nose size. You guys are both
Speaker 1: got tattoos. You guys are both wild. You know you
Speaker 1: as an NBA player, so you know how to get
Speaker 1: down here. I think you're gonna be a good actor.
Speaker 1: Someone just said the other day that they really like
Speaker 1: your chops. Pause, and I think it'll be a great
Speaker 1: opportunity for you. So what do you think about me
Speaker 1: thinking that you can replace Jonathan Majors and play Dennis Robin.
Speaker 1: You must be so excited that you're silenced.
Speaker 2: Fuck, no, never, ever, ever, ever, no before you say.
Speaker 3: I will not be a star role.
Speaker 1: Okay, okay, before you say anything, credit were still trying
Speaker 1: to get Ryman on the show.
Speaker 2: No, I'm just I wouldn't be a star. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: be the best Stephen Jackson in that role. I wouldn't
Speaker 2: want that one.
Speaker 1: We wouldn't want you to be Stephen Jackson. We would
Speaker 1: want you to be.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I couldn't play a good Dennis Robin. Much as our
Speaker 2: past I respect him and look up to him. I
Speaker 2: couldn't play a good hymn.
Speaker 1: But it's only forty eight hours in Vegas. It was
Speaker 1: the one time. And who told us about that where
Speaker 1: he bounced for forty of urs? Someone told us about
Speaker 1: that hour, didn't they? John Saal bounced with the Vegas party,
Speaker 1: got it in drugs, women, alcohol, and came back and
Speaker 1: with the work. I mean that sounds like something you
Speaker 1: can do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean in real life, but not behind nothing
Speaker 2: out acting like somebody else.
Speaker 3: I can be Stephen Jackson and do that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, I could do all that naturally, we really
Speaker 2: doing it, but not as somebody else.
Speaker 1: Moving along, AFC and NFC Championships are set next Sunday.
Speaker 1: We're going to see the Chiefs first, the Ravens. Before
Speaker 1: we get into the jack I want to shout out
Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson. Man, if you remember a year ago, you know,
Speaker 1: last five games with injured, leaving up, didn't play media
Speaker 1: with shitting on him. Doesn't love the game, He's not hurt.
Speaker 1: Team was leaking information on him, all the major outlets.
Speaker 1: We're talking shit on him. No NFL other team would
Speaker 1: take a chance on him. And through all that, stay down,
Speaker 1: stay strong, stay ready, comes back this year and his
Speaker 1: front runner for the MVP. I mean twenty four touchdowns,
Speaker 1: seven ie tis, sixty seven percent completions percentage, thirty seven
Speaker 1: hundred yards passing, eight hundred and twenty yards rushing, five
Speaker 1: rushing touchdowns, obviously leading rusher for all quarterbacks, and five
Speaker 1: point five per carry, which is the leading rush yard
Speaker 1: per tempt for anyone who qualifies. So I just, you know,
Speaker 1: I say all that to say, it's just I hate
Speaker 1: when sports media paints these pitchers on dudes. And Lamar's
Speaker 1: not someone who talks about So he just had to
Speaker 1: sit back and his family and his friends and you
Speaker 1: know everyone had to sit back and take all the
Speaker 1: negative shit that was said about him and all those
Speaker 1: people that were talking about him last year, Jack, what
Speaker 1: are they doing now singing his praises?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Bro, But this way it goes back, It go
Speaker 3: back to Man.
Speaker 2: It's just that this goes to show that you still
Speaker 2: got all racist owners because that is just come from
Speaker 2: the media.
Speaker 3: That came from up top. Man. It wasn't the media
Speaker 3: saying don't sign.
Speaker 2: It was them teams getting together, them old races owners
Speaker 2: that don't know nothing about football, just got money, they
Speaker 2: got they got together and created a little coke.
Speaker 3: Okay, we're gonna say we're not gonna sign him.
Speaker 2: When have they ever done that was saying we're gonna
Speaker 2: go in the media and say we don't want him.
Speaker 3: Off the rip. You ain't got nothing to do with me,
Speaker 3: probably not even talking to your team.
Speaker 2: But that goes to show that a lot of people
Speaker 2: involved in the game don't know the game. But talent,
Speaker 2: talent and doing what you're supposed to. Always with rise
Speaker 2: at the top. I'm so proud of them. Off of
Speaker 2: handlet the way he handled he got his money and
Speaker 2: now look at him an MVP season. Finna be MVP
Speaker 2: for the second time. Just just a lot of times.
Speaker 2: All you gotta do is let your product do to talk.
Speaker 2: You ain't really got pay attention to the nonsense.
Speaker 1: And all those teams that say they didn't want him.
Speaker 1: I mean, there may be three teams in the NFL
Speaker 1: that are probably set set with their quarterback. He's better
Speaker 1: than everybody else and he the best quarterback in the
Speaker 1: game this year. So uh, y'all, I hate you know
Speaker 1: again when the media does that shit. But is what
Speaker 1: it is. Back to the game. Mahomes big win yesterday
Speaker 1: the Bills kicker and it's the crucial field go to
Speaker 1: tie the game up. Uh, and it sent Kansas City
Speaker 1: to Baltimore for the nfor AFC Championship. You saw did
Speaker 1: you see Jason Kelce jump out the suite and drink
Speaker 1: beers with the fans?
Speaker 3: Yeah? I just feel like he had to come get
Speaker 3: some of that.
Speaker 2: I'm tired of seeing Taylor swoop every commercial, every high
Speaker 2: Like every time the Chiefs make a play, they go
Speaker 2: to Taylors their cheerleader. Bro. Like, I get it, Bro,
Speaker 2: I get it, but they milking it too much. They
Speaker 2: weren't doing that with Sierra and Russ when Rush first
Speaker 2: came in.
Speaker 3: Let's keep it real, y'all.
Speaker 2: Didn't have Sierra all over the commercials showing up every
Speaker 2: time Russ made a good play. Y'all got to stop that.
Speaker 2: But y'all making the two obvis.
Speaker 1: Taylor Swifts America Sweetheart. But it was good to get.
Speaker 3: Just the way they're doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, other no, they're piggybacking off her, you know,
Speaker 1: of of her startom. It's always the business. But it
Speaker 1: was good to see big Bro out there with no
Speaker 1: shirt on, coat as fuck, chucking beers at the regular
Speaker 1: I love that kind of shit again. Oh yeah, shout
Speaker 1: out Jason kelsey Man. Hell of a run. Hello a career,
Speaker 1: uh you know, great run and obviously a very successful
Speaker 1: I think that I'm one sports podcast in the world
Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. So I'm sure life after football
Speaker 1: will be great. But definitely salute you and salute Bro.
Speaker 1: Next week. Jack, who you got, Ravens, Chiefs, who you got?
Speaker 2: So I'm neutral, I mean, I'm I just got. I'm
Speaker 2: at this point, I'm rooting for players that I got.
Speaker 2: Relationship with my team is long gone. We're gonna be
Speaker 2: gone for about the next five seasons the way we
Speaker 2: the moves were making, so I I want to I
Speaker 2: want to see Lamar and and uh uh ob j
Speaker 2: get the championship, you know, because that's my I'm you know,
Speaker 2: I'm cool with obj and I'm a fan of Lamar,
Speaker 2: but I also on the on the flip side of it, I.
Speaker 3: Like I like the Chiefs, I like the quarterback.
Speaker 2: I think he's probably one of the best we've ever seen,
Speaker 2: you know, if not the best, and uh we we
Speaker 2: We've had Travis Kelson on the show and I bumped
Speaker 2: into him a lot. Super cool dude, man, you know
Speaker 2: what I'm saying. He's almost a brother. So I want
Speaker 2: I want to see I want to see them continue
Speaker 2: to have success. You know, what him and Mahomes has
Speaker 2: been doing has been amazing. So I'm just I'm just
Speaker 2: room for players at this point.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just hope it's a good game. I
Speaker 1: feel the same way, you know, don't uh you know,
Speaker 1: fans of Lamar happy for the you know, oj Odell
Speaker 1: to be able to get back on his feet after
Speaker 1: all the injuries and and turbulence in his career. And
Speaker 1: then again, you know, a friend of the program, Travis Kelcey,
Speaker 1: and then I'm a huge Mahomes fan and what they
Speaker 1: do so definitely looking forward to a great game. Uh,
Speaker 1: Niners and Lions. I already know who you got.
Speaker 2: I already know who you got, of course you do.
Speaker 1: I gotta. I actually got a jacket here for you, Jack.
Speaker 1: This motherfucker got your name on it too. I should
Speaker 1: look good, don't that ship? Oh y'all ain't seen this one.
Speaker 1: This is a custom boy, Yeah, I wear Yeah. I'll
Speaker 1: bring you in honor of Snap Marley. We know your
Speaker 1: brother man rest in peace to the great Snap Marley.
Speaker 1: We know he was a big Niner fan. So should
Speaker 1: I bring that if you want? Today when we shoot
Speaker 1: at Snoop.
Speaker 2: Will, I would definitely cheerful. If I don't make it
Speaker 2: to the game, I would definitely. I'm definitely getting me
Speaker 2: a forty nine and jersey with my brother name on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we absinuely.
Speaker 2: I don't support no other team, but this is different,
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna I might give me a forty nine
Speaker 2: and Jeorge with Leado on it and wear it and
Speaker 2: support YI all the rest of his way.
Speaker 1: It'd be dope, I mean, because there ain't no reason
Speaker 1: to support the Cowboys heart moving on, Jack, this is dope.
Speaker 1: Obviously Detroit hasn't you know, been good in football. I
Speaker 1: think they haven't been to the NFC Championships in nineteen
Speaker 1: ninety one. You know, there was hard knocks with the
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. I think a season and a half ago
Speaker 1: or two seasons ago, when Dan Campbell was introduced the
Speaker 1: former Lions player when they were terrible, and he had
Speaker 1: a quote, We're gonna kick you in the teeth, and
Speaker 1: then when you punch us back, we're gonna smile at you.
Speaker 1: And when you knock us down, we're gonna get up,
Speaker 1: and on the way up, we're gonna bite you in
Speaker 1: the fucking kneecap. Say fucking but I just want to
Speaker 1: add that just to kind of let you know where
Speaker 1: he's at. And again that's southered better. Two seasons later,
Speaker 1: these guys are in the NFC Championship. Man obviously another
Speaker 1: story Jeff Goff. Uh, you know that the switch for
Speaker 1: him and Stafford. Stafford goes in and wins the Super Bowl. Jared,
Speaker 1: excuse me, Jared Goff. Also also another you know a
Speaker 1: great storyline for Detroit is Jared Goff. You know the
Speaker 1: big trade for him and Stafford. Stafford goes out to
Speaker 1: the Rams and win the Super Bowl right away, and
Speaker 1: now you know, Golf has an opportunity to, you know,
Speaker 1: get his team to the Super Bowl, so you already
Speaker 1: know it's Bang Bang Niner game over gang over here.
Speaker 1: But another good debos fifty fifty. If we don't have
Speaker 1: d bo's gonna be scary. I'm not sold all the way.
Speaker 1: I'm party, just like I wasn't sold all the way
Speaker 1: on Garoppolo. So that quarterback position scares me for our team.
Speaker 1: But you know, outside of that, you know r D
Speaker 1: line is crazy and our linebackers are crazy. So we
Speaker 1: shall see. But it's gonna definitely gonna be a good
Speaker 1: Sunday too. Great games, Best of luck to everybody. I
Speaker 1: hope everybody stays healthy, and we'll see y'all in the
Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Closing Jack, we had a great run in
Speaker 1: New York. You know we're going out to do Snoop
Speaker 1: today after we dropped Snoop for his new movie Underdog.
Speaker 1: We're gonna get to our regularly scheduled program. We had
Speaker 1: Sebastian Telfair, Dan Levatar, Rock strickland Buster Rhymes, and I
Speaker 1: got Tim Thomas thoughts on that little New York run.
Speaker 3: Man. It was a it was a blessing. Uh.
Speaker 2: Great start for us for all the Smoke Productions man
Speaker 2: getting getting the meat Skipper and Dan Levittard getting to
Speaker 2: talk to them and you know what I'm saying, just
Speaker 2: get get being able to show them my appreciation, but
Speaker 2: also getting off on go start with Rode, with Rod Strickland,
Speaker 2: with Bassie, Tim Thomas, Buster Rhymes you know, and Dan
Speaker 2: Libertard interview was we got up to a great New
Speaker 2: York run. But just the fact that we were able
Speaker 2: to come together knowing where we headed, everybody getting to
Speaker 2: hear everybody ideas and really understand that we all on
Speaker 2: the same page and believe it in each other. It's
Speaker 2: a great way to start the year in January. So
Speaker 2: I'm excited to be a part of this team.
Speaker 1: Mm hmmm. A lot of great episodes too, you know.
Speaker 1: Obviously Telfair is Bassie's been being Bassie uh you know,
Speaker 1: back in the media. Uh and and and happy for
Speaker 1: him to be able to tell his story, even if
Speaker 1: it's crazy or even if he's a little uh burns out.
Speaker 1: When we had a blast with him Bust the Rhymes man,
Speaker 1: he sat down and talked to us for three hours
Speaker 1: and opened up and his peoples like yo, he's never
Speaker 1: sat down and talked to nobody like that. So great stories,
Speaker 1: uh that he told Obviously Rod Strickland. I really loved
Speaker 1: Rod the way he reflected Jack and and talked about
Speaker 1: you know, all the all all the and the ship
Speaker 1: that happened to him, his fault. Where could he have
Speaker 1: been better at? And to me, that's always growth. And
Speaker 1: then Tim Thomas, you know, with a grown man in
Speaker 1: high school, you know, bump heads with code for the
Speaker 1: number one player in your guys' class for a while
Speaker 1: and you know, had a nice successful career. So definitely
Speaker 1: looking for that run. We got a nice little slate
Speaker 1: in LA this week. You know obviously Snoop the legendary
Speaker 1: Cheech and Chunk, Yes, Rich Paul and who's the live
Speaker 1: one I'm missing somebody, Key Shawn Johnson. Shawn Johnson. So
Speaker 1: you're definitely looking forward to talking to him. Yeah, so man,
Speaker 1: good catching up. I'm gonna see you in a couple
Speaker 1: of hours. You can catch Unplugged every Tuesday on All
Speaker 1: the Smoke Productions YouTube. They're like, man, we're gonna see
Speaker 1: y'all soon. Peace,