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Speaker 1: Early control of the NFC West is at stake at

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Speaker 1: so far this Sunday. Hello, and welcome to Between the Horns,

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Speaker 1: presented by your Southern California toy you the dealers on JB. Long.

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Speaker 1: You know DeMarco Farr. And let me reintroduce you to

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Speaker 1: the only man at NFL media who picked the Rams

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Speaker 1: to beat the Seattle Seahawks, Maurice Jones Drew.

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Speaker 2: I appreciate that, you know it really it wasn't about me,

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Speaker 2: as the little things in life, the little people.

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Speaker 1: Oh.

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Speaker 2: The ones that play on the field is who I

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Speaker 2: believe did more than anything. The ones that coach on

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Speaker 2: the field is who I really believed, and that's why

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Speaker 2: I felt confident enough to pick the Los Angeles Rams.

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Speaker 1: You're going back to it again this week, largest home

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Speaker 1: dogs in the McVay era.

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Speaker 2: Double down, man, Why why not put it all out there? Hey,

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Speaker 2: it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: Are you gonna find him for being late?

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Speaker 3: No, not at all. He made it. We're on time.

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Speaker 2: No, man, it's forty listen. I will give you that,

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Speaker 2: and I personally believe that's what happened. It had to

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Speaker 2: be the pilot, had to be a Niners And I'm

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Speaker 2: coming from the Bay Area. I'm sitting there on the

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Speaker 2: thing and I'm just waiting in Oakland, is waiting, just waiting.

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Speaker 3: Trying to mess up the show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, bro, I got time to Hey, between

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Speaker 2: the Horns is about to kick off, Babe, we got

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Speaker 2: to get here.

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Speaker 3: Here's a gamer. He brings it y.

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Speaker 1: I wish you could see him during Rams Niners. It

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Speaker 1: never fails. Well, he's got so many San Francisco forty

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Speaker 1: nine ers friends in his text thread and he's in

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Speaker 1: the commercial breaks just battling.

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Speaker 2: Them righting to the death. They had me a couple

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Speaker 2: of times in the deep end the water, try to

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Speaker 2: get me down there.

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Speaker 3: Let me guess. They keep bringing up the regular season.

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Speaker 2: Right, That's why I told him, Hey, regular season champs.

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Speaker 2: It's funny, right, Yeah, it's funny. Yeah, what happened to

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Speaker 2: the NFC Championship game? They don't want to talk about that.

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Speaker 1: Screenshots and receiver.

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Speaker 2: Rings, man, you know, you know what for another time.

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Speaker 2: We'll say it for another time.

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Speaker 1: All right, lot to get to, including the match up

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Speaker 1: with San Francisco, But I want to start with what

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Speaker 1: we learned from Week one. Revised expectations. Flying home from Seattle.

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Speaker 3: DeMarco, you thought, what Matthew Stafford is a bad man.

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Speaker 3: We knew that coming out of Detroit, coming here win

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Speaker 3: in the Super Bowl, we knew he had arm talent,

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Speaker 3: but man, is he competitive. It was absolutely fun watching

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Speaker 3: him play. I had more fun watching him watching the

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Speaker 3: Seahawks melt down when he had that smile on his face.

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Speaker 3: I mean, that is petty and I love that out

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Speaker 3: of your starting quarterback. But the way he commands the pocket,

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Speaker 3: the way he was just delivering the football, Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 3: is absolutely special at quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I told you that I hadn't had that feeling since

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Speaker 1: Game one of the Sean McVay era, since they beat

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Speaker 1: the Colts at the Coliseum, where you had this sense

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Speaker 1: of like, I think it could be good, but I

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Speaker 1: don't know what to expect. But you made a great

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Speaker 1: distinction that year. We were wondering who is Jared goff right,

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Speaker 1: who can he be under Sean McVay. We know what

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I think for me maybe not be an overreaction,

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Speaker 2: but the leadership, right, you talked about the petting and

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Speaker 2: I think that's the it that you're looking for, like

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Speaker 2: put your foot on someone's throat? And we saw that

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Speaker 2: in this game. And that's where you've always wanted to

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Speaker 2: see the Rams, like go out and really dominate an

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Speaker 2: they played a complete game of football, a complete game.

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Speaker 2: Special teams was solid minus the missfield goal, but offense

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Speaker 2: defense turned up in the second half, and they really

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Speaker 2: just put a complete game together. Now the question is

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Speaker 2: it's a thing of confidence, right. We always think that

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Speaker 2: it's the talent level is all pretty much even like

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Speaker 2: the Rams were way more confident what they were doing.

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Speaker 2: I mean they had young guys are talking trash, getting

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Speaker 2: that you said after the game about Matthew Stafford, right, like,

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Speaker 2: this is who we are and we're going to continue

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Speaker 1: Even the Seahawks gave it to the Rams. They gave

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Speaker 1: them their flowers. They said they wanted it more, They

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Speaker 1: now that you've seen it, it's one thing to think,

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Speaker 1: you know in the summer, but now that you've seen

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Speaker 2: And they haven't changed. For me, I feel like they've

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Speaker 2: always been competitive and it's always the game of football

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Speaker 2: is always gonna be you know, three points here, three

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Speaker 2: points there. I still believe the Rams are a ten

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Speaker 2: win team in this situation. And it really goes down

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Speaker 2: to how do you perform against the Niners? Right? And

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Speaker 2: then how do you perform when you play you know

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Speaker 2: you win your division? Can you continue to battle that

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Speaker 2: But to me, I think I think this the way

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Speaker 2: this roster is built up and the way they performed.

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Speaker 2: And it may be just because they know Seattle, right,

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Speaker 2: They know Seattle, they know what they like to do,

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Speaker 2: they know their tendencies. But can you change and mold

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Speaker 2: each week? I think they can. I like ten wins

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Speaker 1: Gotta be will take it. You got to watch the

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Speaker 3: It's a big one, no doubt. Well, I mean it's coming.

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Speaker 3: I mean San Francisco is the ultimate test. It's coming in.

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Speaker 3: It's coming early. I mean you guys saw that tape.

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Speaker 3: I mean they were dominant on both sides. Cody Pickett

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Speaker 3: And you're all going to be tested. Not just one guy,

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Speaker 3: you gave Stafford another shot. So all that's going to

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Speaker 3: they absolutely will. Look at Pittsburgh, that's what they do,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, not just that the Rams one, but the way

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Speaker 1: they won on the road against the twelves with so

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Speaker 1: many rookies making their professional debut the poise while the

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Speaker 1: Seahawks boiled over. Let's get to Sean McVay here. Let

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Speaker 1: him give you the rundown on those rookies who made

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Speaker 1: their RAMS debut, and then I want to ask you all,

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Speaker 2: I think this the overall strain.

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Speaker 4: I think the ability to be able to compete, you know,

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Speaker 4: the connection where it is coaches and players are in

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Speaker 4: was really pleased with Byron Young another young guy that

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Speaker 1: So complimentary on the whole class, and I think there's

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Speaker 1: you in week one as the most impressive rookie.

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Speaker 2: To not give up a sack rookie debu Steve debut,

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Speaker 2: Steve Avila, I thought he played master. And you know Baldy,

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Speaker 2: No to pass off stunts, to be dominanting the running

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Speaker 2: I said, I thought, and it's they don't lineman don't

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Speaker 2: Right and your quarterback is holding the ball. He had

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Speaker 2: a lot of time in the pocket, was holding the

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Speaker 2: a great job.

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Speaker 3: I really like him. On Monday, he poked his head

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Speaker 3: in we're doing the Coaches Show. He's the nicest kid

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Speaker 3: in the world until he puts a helet on right really,

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Speaker 3: I mean then he turns in the Psycho man and

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Speaker 3: I love it. So I'm watching him on tape and

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Speaker 3: this was like your rookie year, my rookie year. I

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Speaker 3: was going after Joe Montana and couldn't believe it. It

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Speaker 3: was surreal. He's knocking down Bobby Wagner, rolling Bobby Wagner.

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Speaker 3: I'm like, do you know what you're doing. That's a

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Speaker 3: wake up be that guy. I thought he was special.

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Speaker 3: So the guys besides him that stood out. I got

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Speaker 3: to give it to Byron Young, and I thought you

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Speaker 3: summed it up the best way. You definitely felt that presence.

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Speaker 3: And I'm trying to remember it had to be Kevin

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Speaker 3: became starters from day one. Wow, and look pretty good

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Speaker 3: His speed is unbelievable. I mean you see it even

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Speaker 1: There's two differences to me, one on offense, one on defense.

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Speaker 1: Nomber Jimmy Garoppolo, that should be good news. But this

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Speaker 1: He used to be a two to debo he's he's

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Speaker 1: And as impressive as it was to see them thrive

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Speaker 5: It's really you know what good defense is about in

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Speaker 1: It basically every spot you look at.

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Speaker 5: So they got a bunch of talent and a bunch

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Speaker 1: pass protection and keeping Stafford clean. He and the backs

432
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Speaker 1: played a huge role on that Higbe too.

433
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think you know when you talk about the Jabe,

434
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Speaker 2: he talks about being efficient. Efficiency against the Niners is

435
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Speaker 2: very important because they put him in that uncomfortable situation.

436
00:18:01,440 --> 00:18:03,800
Speaker 2: They're used to being in second and longs, third and laws.

437
00:18:03,840 --> 00:18:05,680
Speaker 2: They're gonna go, They're gonna be geeked up to stop

438
00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:07,719
Speaker 2: to run on first and second down, right so they

439
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Speaker 2: can earn the right to rush. But if you're efficient

440
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Speaker 2: and you get them in the third and short, that's

441
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Speaker 2: where they're they're not They're not the best at that.

442
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Speaker 2: They don't know how to play. Do I play man?

443
00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:18,320
Speaker 2: Do I play zone? Do we blitz like you put

444
00:18:18,320 --> 00:18:20,760
Speaker 2: them in a different situation. I think that's gonna be

445
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Speaker 2: the important thing for the Rams is how you fishing

446
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Speaker 2: you are on first and second down? Can you get

447
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Speaker 2: to those third and mediums, those third and shorts like

448
00:18:26,160 --> 00:18:28,720
Speaker 2: we saw in Seattle, you know, second and seven, second

449
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:31,320
Speaker 2: and nine, you get seven yards third and two. Now

450
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Speaker 2: I have my whole playbook open. I can run the ball,

451
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Speaker 2: I can do different things to get you off balance.

452
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Speaker 2: And so for me, that's gonna be everyone. It's gonna

453
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Speaker 2: be important to get those offensive line going forward too,

454
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Speaker 2: not necessarily sideways against the team, but going forward. A

455
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Speaker 2: lot of double teams, a lot of duo blogging downhill

456
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Speaker 2: will help out it.

457
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Speaker 3: Let's first started to move it. I mean the game

458
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Speaker 3: was over seventeen twenty to nothing, but they did drive

459
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Speaker 3: the football, you know, towards the end of that football game,

460
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Speaker 3: so there was some success. They're out of Pittsburgh, but

461
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Speaker 3: the onslaught was too much. They just couldn't come back.

462
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Speaker 1: Kansas City got him right in Christian McCaffrey's debut as

463
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Speaker 1: a Niner. Undefeated since in the regular season, undefeated in

464
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Speaker 1: games that brought purty starts and finishes would be nice

465
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Speaker 1: for lots of reasons to put an end to this

466
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Speaker 1: eleven game regular season winning streak for the forty nine ers.

467
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Speaker 1: And there's even more of a sense of urgency I

468
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Speaker 1: feel because of what's ahead for San Francisco. The Niners

469
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Speaker 1: have Thursday Night Football after their trip to so Far

470
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Speaker 1: that's their home opener against the Giants. The Giants got

471
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Speaker 1: embarrassed by the Cowboys on their home field at the Meadowlands,

472
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Speaker 1: and then the Cardinals come to Levi Stadium. Point Bean,

473
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Speaker 1: if you don't get them here, there's a very real

474
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Speaker 1: possibility San Francisco is sitting at five and zero when

475
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Speaker 1: they play host to the Dallas Cowboys. So just something

476
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Speaker 1: to watch, another reason to be sweet to get a

477
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Speaker 1: win over San Francisco on Sunday. It is Sean mcvay's

478
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Speaker 1: one hundredth career regular season game. Milestone moment in Englewood.

479
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Speaker 1: Sixty one and thirty eight NFL Coach of the Year,

480
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Speaker 1: he's taken four teams of the playoffs, those two NFC championships,

481
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Speaker 1: of course, the indelible Lombardi Trophy. Until the opener against

482
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Speaker 1: the Bills last season, he'd never been so much as

483
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Speaker 1: a game below five hundred. I wonder if we could

484
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Speaker 1: just kind of go around the horn and reflect about

485
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Speaker 1: what it's been like to be along for this ride man.

486
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Speaker 2: I mean from our first season where it was kind

487
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Speaker 2: of a little wonky, and for him to come in

488
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:20,040
Speaker 2: with that new offense, high flying scoring point and it

489
00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,000
Speaker 2: was the energy and the attitude and the masters of

490
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Speaker 2: the situation to go on last year where it was

491
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Speaker 2: kind of like we didn't know what was going on.

492
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Speaker 2: It's been a roller coaster. It's been great. Though I

493
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Speaker 2: don't do well with roller coasters, but I love this one.

494
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Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, because we've had some hyes

495
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Speaker 2: going to New Orleans and being in New Orleans to

496
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Speaker 2: shut that crowd up, and then you know, then you don't.

497
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Speaker 2: You have the egg and the super Bowl. Then you

498
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Speaker 2: come back and you find a way to bounce back,

499
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Speaker 2: you battle back. Then you have no win November the

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Speaker 2: super Bowl year, which was insane. We remember how hard

501
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Speaker 2: that was to go through. We don't win the game.

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Speaker 2: You don't want a game in November.

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Speaker 1: Undefeated December was much better.

504
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Speaker 2: Undefeated December, and then you go through a run in

505
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Speaker 2: the playoffs. Those are like to me and he'd never wavered,

506
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Speaker 2: never wavered, and to me, you know, to think about

507
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Speaker 2: it one hundred again, that's a that's that's insane. You

508
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Speaker 2: know what? Also that it makes me feel a little old,

509
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Speaker 2: like we've been working together a long time. Mike at

510
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Speaker 2: one hundred and sixteen for us, call them all.

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Speaker 1: Someone you would have liked to have played for Demarket.

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Speaker 3: Oh my god, I go through a wall for that

513
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Speaker 3: guy right now. Really, if he asked me to come play,

514
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Speaker 3: I would say yes, I'd go give it a shot.

515
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Speaker 3: No one, I can't play, you know what I mean?

516
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Speaker 2: Give it everything?

517
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Speaker 3: Yeah, give it everything, because he's given everything he's got.

518
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Speaker 3: That's the thing about not changing. I mean you could

519
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Speaker 3: tell this means a lot to him. He hates to lose,

520
00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 3: he loves to win. Uh, he wants to keep this

521
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Speaker 3: thing going. It's it's it's it's really impressive to watch him.

522
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Speaker 3: And we learn something about football watching from the way

523
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Speaker 3: he coaches, and we learned something about players from the

524
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Speaker 3: way he talks to his guys. So yeah, I mean,

525
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Speaker 3: coming from all the way back to the Scott Lenihan era,

526
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Speaker 3: all the way up until now, absolutely, this is the

527
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Speaker 3: guy that Rams fans would dream about being your head coach.

528
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Speaker 3: And you're in that era. Now you've been to the

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Speaker 3: Super Bowl twice, you've won one, and there might be

530
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Speaker 3: another one out there if you can get this roster

531
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Speaker 3: to grow up in a hurry. So absolutely, this has

532
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Speaker 3: been great. I can't believe it's been a hundred games.

533
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Speaker 3: And like you said earlier, I can't wait for a

534
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Speaker 3: hundred more.

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Speaker 1: Here's the next one hundred.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was gonna say this too, Like let's remember the

538
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Speaker 2: Rams took a big, big chance on Nickveigh.

539
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Speaker 3: Yeah, like that wasn't.

540
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Speaker 2: Like he was young what helling called plays for what

541
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Speaker 2: a year? Possibly like year two? Like and look what happened. Yeah,

542
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Speaker 2: sometimes you gotta take chances.

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Speaker 1: You don't get one hundred games just to be a

544
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Speaker 1: head coach. You got to earn those ones. Yeah games,

545
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Speaker 1: He's done that and a whole lot more. All right,

546
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Speaker 1: this is one of those weekends where like a key

547
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Speaker 1: to victory seems silly because you're gonna need them all.

548
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Speaker 1: Like it's got to be a yes and type of weekend.

549
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Speaker 1: But if you had to boil it down to one,

550
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Speaker 1: what would it be.

551
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Speaker 2: Efficiency? You got to be efficient on offense, and I

552
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Speaker 2: think demark, I don't know if you're gonna take defense

553
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 2: or not, but I'll just take from the offensive standpoint.

554
00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:54,800
Speaker 2: You have to be efficient. You have to score touchdowns,

555
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,480
Speaker 2: field goals and stalling on the red zone cannot happen,

556
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Speaker 2: right if you want to beat the and again it's

557
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:05,360
Speaker 2: a very tough team and their style of play, which

558
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Speaker 2: I love their solid play. Right, if you try to

559
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Speaker 2: get a if you want to take them out of

560
00:23:09,000 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 2: being physical, they have to be down because then they

561
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Speaker 2: can't be physical anymore. Now they got to throw the ball, right,

562
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Speaker 2: Throwing the ball is not a physical thing. It's a

563
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Speaker 2: more finesse thing. So if you get them out of

564
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Speaker 2: their game plan, are efficient, you have a great opportunity

565
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Speaker 2: to beat them.

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Speaker 3: You know, for me, it's like you got to get

567
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Speaker 3: in the phone booth with them. I mean you got to.

568
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Speaker 3: You can't ease into a street fight. You know what

569
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Speaker 3: it's going to be. You're gonna have to out physical

570
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Speaker 3: them from play number one to the last. And defensively,

571
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Speaker 3: speaking with McCaffrey, it's like trying to dam up a river.

572
00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 3: I mean that water is always trying to find a

573
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Speaker 3: way to get out and get down the field. He

574
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Speaker 3: is just like that. Attention to details is huge. That

575
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Speaker 3: sixty five yard run. One linebacker hits the gap with

576
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Speaker 3: the wrong shoulder and away we go.

577
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Speaker 2: One guy missed a tackle, that's it.

578
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Speaker 3: And away we go. So you have to be letter perfect,

579
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Speaker 3: time in time out, time in time out, and just

580
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800
Speaker 3: be that way defensively. But number one. You got to

581
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Speaker 3: get in the phone booth and accept that challenge.

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Speaker 1: I'll go dollars on defense because Nick Bosa has taken

583
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Speaker 1: Aaron Donald's crown as the highest paid defensive player in

584
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Speaker 1: the sport. Which NFL Defensive Player of the Year puts

585
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:13,199
Speaker 1: a bigger dent in the opposing pocket this week? And

586
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Speaker 1: that pretty much brings everything together, right, because it entails

587
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Speaker 1: being efficient on offense so that Bosa can't pin his

588
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 1: years back. It means can you bottle up McCaffrey so

589
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Speaker 1: that you can earn the right to run the pass.

590
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Speaker 1: And if so, is Aaron Donald going to be lining

591
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Speaker 1: up over right tackle everywhere?

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Speaker 3: Dude?

593
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Speaker 1: Was that was if you're looking for a blemish. I

594
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Speaker 1: think their corners are fine. They look better probably than

595
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Speaker 1: they are individually because of how ferocious that rushes. But

596
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Speaker 1: if there's a downfall early of the San Francisco forty

597
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Speaker 1: nine er groups, it's probably right guard, right tackle.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yes, I would say everyone but the left tackle.

599
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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that's just me, no doubt, And I agree.

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Speaker 2: I think what DeMarco said, you're going to be in

601
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Speaker 2: a phone with They're not going to let Aaron Donald

602
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Speaker 2: beat them. I mean we saw that. I don't forget

603
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Speaker 2: what game it was. Whe Aaron Donald had like four

604
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Speaker 2: sacks and four fumble. Literally, Kyle said, we will never

605
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:06,560
Speaker 2: allow this happen again, and hasn't since, like he will

606
00:25:06,920 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 2: devise a whole game plan to move. So if I'm

607
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,600
Speaker 2: the nine, if I'm the Rams, when they shift, we shifted,

608
00:25:12,000 --> 00:25:14,159
Speaker 2: how about that you shift, We're gonna shift with you.

609
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Speaker 1: Here we go, Yeah, switch the formation.

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Speaker 2: That's what I would do.

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Speaker 3: Definitely. I would definitely shift around and try to make

612
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Speaker 3: them think a little bit. And your advantage is ninety nine.

613
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Speaker 3: So never let you. Never let them know where you're

614
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Speaker 3: gonna put him, because that's gonna change stuff.

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Speaker 1: San Francisco and Los Angeles at so FI Stadium in

616
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Speaker 1: Inglewood control the NSC West at stake early hope to

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Speaker 1: join us in person for m J D for de

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Speaker 1: Marco far I am JB. Long as always between the

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Speaker 1: horns is presented by your Southern California. I tell you

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Speaker 1: to deal