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Speaker 2: All right, let's go live on a Thursday edition of

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Speaker 2: eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. Merely, Bow and Gibbe. How'd you do?

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Speaker 2: Did you win?

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Speaker 3: I won the front nine. I was in the group.

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Speaker 3: Let's won the front nine.

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Speaker 2: Let's go.

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Speaker 3: I gave a couple shots and then the front nine

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Speaker 3: was a little shamble. Yep, take the take the best score.

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Speaker 3: But I put us in position with a drive on

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Speaker 3: a couple holes. Beautiful. That's all I can do. If

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Speaker 3: I can give you a couple maybe maybe there are

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Speaker 3: a couple holes.

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Speaker 4: Uh.

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Speaker 3: The The back nine was the the annual swag scramble.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's got to bring some swag. Okay, you put it

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Speaker 3: out on a table and based on where your group finishes,

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Speaker 3: you get to pick first. Okay, first from last and

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Speaker 3: I like it. There were a couple guys that that won.

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Speaker 3: Shout out to Moran and Angelo, uh, the only group

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Speaker 3: that was under par on the back nine.

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Speaker 3: There were some questions, but I would I would tell

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Speaker 3: you that I think both of those guys are playing

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Speaker 3: very good golf right now, and if there were other gentlemen,

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Speaker 3: I would seriously question it. No names please, but I can.

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Speaker 3: I can tell you that they won hands down. And

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Speaker 3: then there was a big group of us like four three, four,

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Speaker 3: five over, and I'm like, all right, like that's great.

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Speaker 3: My group was great, good fun, lots of adult beverages

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Speaker 3: that lay along into the night. That's a little longer

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Speaker 3: than they needed to be. Nice, beautiful day. What's the

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Speaker 3: off season?

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Speaker 2: Just off season?

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Speaker 3: How is the off season? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: You gotta live a little bit here, brother, I yeah,

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Speaker 2: to do it.

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Speaker 3: I today was the last day for rookies in the

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Speaker 3: building and now they're dismissed. So unless you're injured and

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Speaker 3: rehabbing stuff, yeah you're we'll see in July.

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Speaker 2: I will say for our purposes, and I view everything

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Speaker 2: very selfishly through our persons should Yeah, I would much.

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Speaker 2: I much prefer us not in the hall of Fame

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Speaker 2: game and Mini camp going to this week.

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Speaker 3: Boy do I I mean, I've noticed it, you know, Like, boy, we're.

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Speaker 2: Sitting here and we're like, wow, we really we got

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Speaker 2: shows next week too. We're gonna do that next week too,

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Speaker 2: because it's and it's not just here. There's it's quiet

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Speaker 2: in the NFL.

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Speaker 3: It's about to get real, and it's in the sports.

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Speaker 2: World it's about ready to get silent, you know, quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: And you're right. In the sports world at large, both

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Speaker 2: of those, the NHL and nb A happening and going

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Speaker 2: so quickly. There's now this huge golf where you know,

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Speaker 2: if baseball's worth of damn it jumps into it. I mean,

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Speaker 2: that's always the job. If you're I would have I mean,

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Speaker 2: you're running the you're running the guardians. When when you

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Speaker 2: get to right now, you've got to own the next

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Speaker 2: two months if you want to own it, if you

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Speaker 2: want the window is here, Yeah, you want to get it.

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Speaker 2: Of course, you get into October, you know, hang banners,

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Speaker 2: all that stuff, But like, you have got to be

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Speaker 2: relevant in this window and luckily the Ale Central provides

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Speaker 2: for that. I'm seeing it down in Cincinnati with the

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Speaker 2: they've they've put themselves a game and a half out

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Speaker 2: And they've done it. They've checked the boxes like they're

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Speaker 2: in the mix this time of year because it is quiet.

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Speaker 3: NBA draft and free agency, yeah, proved to be a

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Speaker 3: always used to come. This will be June twenty seconds.

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Speaker 3: So next week is the draft. Okay. So the other

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Speaker 3: problem was free agency was always like fourth of July week,

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Speaker 3: I mean, NFL is gonna get real quiet after this week.

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Speaker 3: Everybody's gonna be shut down after this week. Why does

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Speaker 3: it look like it's gonna rain.

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Speaker 3: Real overcast Yeah, by the way, did you know do

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Speaker 3: you know about this joint?

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Speaker 2: Have you read about this?

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Speaker 3: So I was bringing it up last night to a

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Speaker 3: a little bit. You missed a day, missed a lot.

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Speaker 2: There's an incredible story in The Athletic that talks about

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Speaker 2: La Country. So US Open Round one today, we're just

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Speaker 2: I mean, it's pretty early.

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Speaker 3: A couple of guys at three under, which is surprising

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I can't imagine that that holds who's leading this thing?

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Speaker 2: Anybody we know? There's people we don't. I don't see

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Speaker 3: I think a lot of those names aren't coming out yet.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they're all Afternoon's three under.

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Speaker 3: I shouldn't say that. Shoffley through five is three under,

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Speaker 2: Wow, that'd be something boy from Off the Grid to

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Speaker 2: that he was good at Memorial to the last three holes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so yes, the bigger names are getting ready to

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Speaker 2: Very strange, so they're gonna go.

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Speaker 3: They've got multi tees in play, right, Okay.

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Speaker 2: I wonder if they're doing it from a weather standpoint.

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Speaker 3: It had to be from weather standpoint.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So there's a couple of things about this place

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Speaker 2: It's on all night because of the West Coast start time.

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Speaker 2: I always like these West Coast majors for that reason

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Speaker 2: because they're on, you know, throughout the evening. LA Country

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Speaker 2: he designed all of them. The USA USGA has been

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Speaker 2: trying to play at LACC forever. You could make an

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Speaker 2: from the beginning until now is nobody from Hollywood, no actors,

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Speaker 3: Gets in.

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Speaker 2: Then you tell me so, but those guys are out.

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Speaker 2: None of those guys can be allowed in. They're not

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Speaker 2: exactly great as you could imagine when it comes to

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Speaker 2: human rights issues. They were pretty slow on bringing in

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Speaker 2: It has been a place you could not play, so

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Speaker 2: much so that Bing Crosby bought a house on a

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Speaker 2: he lived on the course, and they said, actually no,

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Speaker 2: thank you. Hugh Hefter the Playboy Mansion, which I don't

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Speaker 2: The Playboy Mansion is on the course. And there's these

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Speaker 2: legendary tales of how the Sunday morning tea time were

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Speaker 2: remnants of the Saturday parties at the Playboy Mansion. Hefner

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Speaker 2: Lacc said, no, you can't. He said, I'd like to

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Speaker 2: he was so upset about it that he then put

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Speaker 2: And the reason he did so is so that they

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Speaker 2: because they're loud, so golfer's routinely would complain about the

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Speaker 2: squawking that was coming from the bird sanctuary at the

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Speaker 2: boy mansion. But nobody has seen this course. And the

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Speaker 2: other thing that's really cool about it is it's much

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Speaker 2: it's one of those old tracks that somebody knew came

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Speaker 2: They have long grass in places. They have bunkers that

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Speaker 2: So this will look different. Like you'd never know that

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Speaker 2: was Los Angeles. No, never, if not for seeing you know,

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Speaker 3: That's amazing.

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Speaker 2: So it's a fascinating. So who gets in, like couples

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Speaker 2: as a member, like there aren't many, but no actors,

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Speaker 3: I don't know why you wouldn't want that, but okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Like there's even more to it, like

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Speaker 2: members and guests are forbidden from sharing any part of

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Speaker 2: tweet pictures of the course.

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Speaker 3: I love that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't do any of that stuff. It's fascinating.

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Speaker 3: All right, I'm gonna have to go in and read this.

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Speaker 2: I want to say it's in the Athletic. The Athletic

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Speaker 2: Like it's it's one of those things that we just

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Speaker 2: no one's ever seen it, and so they're in the mix.

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Speaker 2: They have it this year, and then they have the

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Speaker 2: US Open again, I want to say, in like twenty

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Speaker 2: This is what this is what it is. I think

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Speaker 2: there's a major in twenty I think the US Opens

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Speaker 2: the first US Open in la in seventy five years.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we talked about like, yeah, the last major tournament

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Speaker 2: It's laughable, absolute travesty. Put out their schedule yesterday, not

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Speaker 3: But in terms of opponents, and aren't they playing one

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Speaker 2: The Big ten is? The Big ten's playing nine. The

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Speaker 3: This is what the Big this is the Big Ten.

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Speaker 2: Well, Ohio State is not playing USC. Well, well that's happening.

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Speaker 2: We're gonna go to Georgia, who's currently the king of

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Speaker 2: Their eight games are Auburn, Georgia, Missouri, and South Carolina. Okay,

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Speaker 2: Their non conference includes Miami, Florida State UCF. They only

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Speaker 3: Look at this schedule.

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Speaker 2: Point, when you look at this schedule, I think they're right.

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Speaker 2: I think they're right. They played They are Pearl Jam

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Speaker 2: you go, here's the headliners. That's what the SEC did

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Speaker 2: do it anyway. Yes, when you think about peers for

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Speaker 2: I can't believe they didn't do it already. I can't

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Speaker 2: They're taking the dregs of the league and they're throwing

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Speaker 3: To going down to Alabama or oh my god, LSU

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Speaker 2: Even furthermore, like just think about the amount of juice.

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Speaker 3: Them for the Michigan game or the Penn State night game.

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Speaker 3: And in November you're playing for something.

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Speaker 2: Well, they have three. The deal that they signed, which

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Speaker 2: that are going to be asking a lot out of

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Speaker 2: Ohio State, Michigan, Penn State USC to lift up the programming.

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Speaker 2: And the Big Ten teams say they don't want to

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Speaker 2: play in November at night. USC and UCLA can't play

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Speaker 2: every game in the month of November at night to

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Speaker 2: satisfy NBC. They can't. It's store teams and.

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Speaker 3: It's not fair to ask them to play at noon

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Speaker 3: Eastern time when it's nine am West Coast time and

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Speaker 3: to adjust their clocks that way. No, you can do

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Speaker 3: that in the NFL. You can't do that in college football.

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Speaker 2: No, No, not at all. So that's what's happening. There

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Speaker 2: is a those two conferences control the sport, and those

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Speaker 2: two conferences within a week did an entirely different.

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Speaker 3: It goes back to what you've always said. Way SEC's

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Speaker 3: doing it right, they have Big Ten is finding ways

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Speaker 3: to screw it up.

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Speaker 2: They are damn lucky. Ohio State's been good for fifty years. Yeah,

451
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Speaker 2: is really what it comes down to that there are

452
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Speaker 2: a ton of Buckeye fans around the country that there

453
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Speaker 2: are loyal Buckeye fans in the state of Ohio who

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Speaker 2: watch them play anybody, and they're lucky that Ohio State

455
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Speaker 2: has hired like five consecutive Hall of Fame coaches because

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Speaker 2: if they ever was a dip, there isn't anybody else

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Speaker 2: to lift the league Michigan now but for the better

458
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Speaker 2: part of the last decade not there isn't, so it's

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Speaker 2: imperative that they stay at that point. They're very lucky

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Speaker 2: that Ohio States stayed where they are. It's a mailbank

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Speaker 2: Thank you so much for taking the time. Let's start

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Speaker 2: at the top with this sale. Is are we waiting

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Speaker 2: for teas to be crossed and eyes to be dotted?

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Speaker 2: And where are we in that process?

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Speaker 5: It's a little bit more than that, we're inching toward that.

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Speaker 5: A lot of it is for people to know. Josh

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Speaker 5: Harris is a letter group. He's the owner of the

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Speaker 5: seventy six Ers and owner of the New Jersey Devils.

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Speaker 5: He's leading a group to buy the Commanders and in

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Speaker 5: that group, I mean they're buying it for six point

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Speaker 5: h five billion. He's they're trying to get the structure

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Speaker 5: of the offer in compliance with NFL guidelines. That's the

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Speaker 5: big hang up right now. So he's used to doing

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Speaker 5: private equity deals. The NFL is not the NFL. One

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Speaker 5: thing we all know is the NFL is not going

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Speaker 5: to change for anybody, and you know, even if it's

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Speaker 5: a guy like this who has some billions of dollars.

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Speaker 5: So they want Harris that group him himself to put

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Speaker 5: in more equity in the deal to lessen the debt load.

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Speaker 5: You can only carry so much debt. It's one point

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Speaker 5: one billion there. The way they were structuring the offer

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Speaker 5: was going to be significantly more than that. So they

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Speaker 5: have to get that in line with the NFL guidelines.

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Speaker 5: There is definite optimism that they're getting closer to that point,

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Speaker 5: and some of it some of it is semantics with

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Speaker 5: how they both view it, and that's where the kind

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Speaker 5: of the working together comes into play with the NFL's

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Speaker 5: Finance Committee and then the other part of the thing

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Speaker 5: that's taken a while. Is they have twenty limited partners,

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Speaker 5: including Magic Johnson, so all those groups, all those people

513
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Speaker 5: have to be vetted for security and for financial reasons.

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Speaker 5: So that also takes time. And so I think the

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Speaker 5: more expensive these teams get, the more you're going to

516
00:27:36,880 --> 00:27:41,359
Speaker 5: see situations like this, because not many people have a

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Speaker 5: couple of billion line around the couch. And even these

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Speaker 5: guys who are worth you know, Harris is worth like

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Speaker 5: I think it's over six billion. It's not like you

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Speaker 5: have that liquid and so like that's kind of the

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Speaker 5: challenge here. So that's what's taking a while. There's optimism

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Speaker 5: that gets done. It could be voted on at the

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Speaker 5: early would be July twentieth, So that's where we'll kind

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Speaker 5: of keep an eye on right now.

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Speaker 2: John Was this a situation where the NFL said Dan,

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Speaker 2: the time is now you need to do this, or

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Speaker 2: has Dan just pushed has just been too much negativity

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Speaker 2: and all of it where he basically just pushed the

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Speaker 2: chips in.

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Speaker 5: I think it's a combination. Listen, if there's yet to

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Speaker 5: the NFL, I think I think they would have told

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Speaker 5: them that a couple of years ago because they were

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Speaker 5: tired of seeing what it had been a hallmark franchise,

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Speaker 5: or is the hallmark fans of the NFL, like you know,

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Speaker 5: like the Browns, just seeing how far they had tumbled,

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Speaker 5: and not just in terms of win wins and losses,

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Speaker 5: but in terms of support for them in this town.

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Speaker 5: It's it's really gone down now. It's still still the

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Speaker 5: most popular game in town by far, but it's not

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Speaker 5: what it was. And so so that happened a few

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Speaker 5: years ago. So but with all the other stuff, then, yes,

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Speaker 5: other owners over the last year, you started to get

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Speaker 5: the started to feel the momentum from other owners like

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Speaker 5: enough enough because there were they did want to vote

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Speaker 5: him out before because it would have been bad precedent. Uh,

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Speaker 5: just you know for all this stuff they did, like

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Speaker 5: they all know they have skeletons in their closet and

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Speaker 5: they know that he knows about a lot of them.

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Speaker 5: So so there's part of that was the momentum there.

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Speaker 5: And I think it got to the point for the

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Speaker 5: Snyders where they I think they realized it's never going

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Speaker 5: to change in terms of how much people go at

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Speaker 5: their family. There was shortly before the announcement was made,

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Speaker 5: it came out like ESPN, I hoped with the story,

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Speaker 5: but it wasn't. It was my colleagues would have did

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Speaker 5: the heavy lifting on a big story about the whole situation.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that helped more so from a standpoint

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Speaker 5: of it's not going to end. And then a few

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Speaker 5: like a week or two after that, Kanya Snyder, Dan's

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Speaker 5: wife was on the video screen at a game doing

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Speaker 5: a PSA for cancer she was. She only appeared on

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Speaker 5: the screen for like two seconds and the crowd booed,

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Speaker 5: And I think, like stuff like that just adds up.

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Speaker 5: And that's part. And then the other factor is it's

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Speaker 5: got a lot of debt and and you know, for

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Speaker 5: him to get out of it, he's got to build

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Speaker 5: a new stadium. Nobody here wanted to work with them,

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Speaker 5: and I think they kind of got the sense like

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Speaker 5: it all adds up to it's time to go.

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Speaker 2: So Harris, whenever, whenever this does get done with him,

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Speaker 2: and it feels and you've carrect remember more more when not?

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Speaker 2: If John is yeah, get more?

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Speaker 3: When not?

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Speaker 2: If you okay? So when that's done, he inherits. He

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Speaker 2: will take over an organization that from even from my

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Speaker 2: I'm a man on forty uh, this was a gold

577
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Speaker 2: Star franchise for my entire youth. I mean, this was

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Speaker 2: Joe Gibbs and the Hogs and all of it in RFK.

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Speaker 2: But it's been a long time removed from that, including

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Speaker 2: even the name. But he's got a little bit of

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Speaker 2: a mess. He's got to get a new stadium done.

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Speaker 2: Would he even consider rebranding this thing? Would the NFL

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Speaker 2: be open to that? Because it I mean creft ive,

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Speaker 2: I'm wrong. It seems like the Commanders didn't land.

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Speaker 5: No, it did not. That's it's like to say. But listen,

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Speaker 5: I mean I grew up in Laitlan. I know about

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Speaker 5: the name changes, right and how a fan would react,

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00:31:03,360 --> 00:31:06,680
Speaker 5: And you know, I think what helps for Cleveland, And

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00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 5: I know I don't know how many people fully embraced Guardians,

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00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,400
Speaker 5: but you know, like it's a good organization. They've they've

591
00:31:12,400 --> 00:31:14,360
Speaker 5: built up a lot of good will. And so while

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00:31:14,680 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 5: you know you may not like the name last year,

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00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 5: I'm watching like I'm watching Jose Ramirez, right, I'm watching

594
00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 5: you know, you know him and is and all that.

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Speaker 5: So here there's so much bitterness toward the previous owner,

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Speaker 5: I mean a ton toward him, and so I think

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Speaker 5: whatever they had come up with it was gonna fall flat.

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00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,400
Speaker 5: So if the fans have not embraced it. But I

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Speaker 5: have yet to talk to anybody in the Hairs group

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Speaker 5: and talking to multiple people who have said, yeah, they're

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Speaker 5: going to embrace that, they're not, I mean they're going

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Speaker 5: to change it. They're not going to do that.

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 5: If they did it, it would be down the road.

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Speaker 5: There's a couple of things. One, they have to get

606
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Speaker 5: a stadium. If your main goal is to come in

607
00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,280
Speaker 5: and change the name, you may win the populace vote.

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Speaker 5: But if you don't build a good organization, it does

609
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Speaker 5: manner like they weren't showing up. In twenty eighteen, the

610
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,240
Speaker 5: team is six and three. I was at the mall

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Speaker 5: watching Josh Norman hand out tickets to get people to

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Speaker 5: go to the games. They were called the Redskins then,

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Speaker 5: So the point is like, you still have to build

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Speaker 5: a good organization to get them there. If you change

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Speaker 5: it back to the Redskins and you don't win, they're

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Speaker 5: not going to show up, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So you have to build. So that's their priority of stadium,

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Speaker 5: building a good team, and maybe down the road if

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Speaker 5: they realize that some people just can't get past that

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Speaker 5: they'll do it. I just I would be very surprised

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Speaker 5: if they did it.

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Speaker 2: Let me just throw this at that to you workshop

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Speaker 2: it red Hogs scriptar from the Joe Gibbs hat, same uniforms.

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Speaker 2: Is that hit?

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Speaker 5: Listen, I've I've heard everything. What used to do was

626
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Speaker 5: just change the change the logo to a potato and

627
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 5: call them the Redskins. That's right, you know, And so listen,

628
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Speaker 5: there was one of the names there, their unofficial nickname

629
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Speaker 5: is the Hogs that they have a you know, a

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Speaker 5: pig basically whose name is whose nickname is Major Toddy

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Speaker 5: or something, and like the hog right in the pig right, So,

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Speaker 5: but they try a lot. There were there was a

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Speaker 5: segment of the fan base on Twitter, and so I

634
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Speaker 5: have to boil it down to that because it is

635
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Speaker 5: Twitter is not indicative of everything, right, and some people

636
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Speaker 5: think it is. It is not so, but there was

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Speaker 5: a segment of there that wanted red Wolves, and I

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Speaker 5: know they looked into it, and then talking to other

639
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Speaker 5: people like trademark attorneys all that it's so much harder

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Speaker 5: to get something now when there is a trademark conflict

641
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Speaker 5: than it used to be. And like they pleasing get

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Speaker 5: Tron all the time, and the cost of it and

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Speaker 5: the branding of it. They were afraid of how much

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Speaker 5: it would cost to deal with it. There was a

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Speaker 5: ye had the timber Wolves, so the Wolve's part would

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Speaker 5: be you know, there were just a lot of things

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Speaker 5: with it, so they tried. They did look into the

648
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 5: Red Wolves party. There was Red Tales was another one.

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Speaker 5: Red Hoggs was actually on a list at one point.

650
00:34:05,480 --> 00:34:09,879
Speaker 5: But you know, they landing with Commanders Warriors. I think

651
00:34:09,920 --> 00:34:13,439
Speaker 5: would have been the name had it not been. Had

652
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:16,719
Speaker 5: they not, I know, the Native American groups probably would

653
00:34:16,719 --> 00:34:19,319
Speaker 5: have fought that as well, because they the fear was

654
00:34:19,360 --> 00:34:21,799
Speaker 5: that you could continue with the imagery that they're trying

655
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:24,399
Speaker 5: to get away from, and like that was a big fear.

656
00:34:24,440 --> 00:34:28,080
Speaker 5: But like Dan Snyder had trademarked that name years ago

657
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 5: for an Arena League team, and early on in the

658
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 5: process when they first said they're going to change the name,

659
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 5: early on I was told like, oh, he's got a

660
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,400
Speaker 5: name that he really likes. Theyre going to announce it

661
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,680
Speaker 5: within a week or two, and then a week later

662
00:34:39,760 --> 00:34:42,480
Speaker 5: it's Washington Football Team. I know that wasn't it. So

663
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 5: I think, had it you know, I could have seen

664
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 5: them going down the Warriors Road and people I think

665
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 5: would have liked that. But again, Golden State all a

666
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:52,560
Speaker 5: lot of Native American stuff. It's just a lot of

667
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,920
Speaker 5: headaches with it. If they changed it again, I think,

668
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:58,840
Speaker 5: you know, again, if you don't build a good organization,

669
00:34:59,040 --> 00:35:00,000
Speaker 5: it's not going to matter.

670
00:35:00,800 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 2: Where's that stadium going to go? They go back to

671
00:35:04,239 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 2: RFK site. Is that going to be a possibility.

672
00:35:06,480 --> 00:35:10,840
Speaker 5: That's a possibility. There are a lot of obstacles because first,

673
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 5: the federal government owns land, So the first thing that

674
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:15,719
Speaker 5: has to happen. The federal government has to either least

675
00:35:15,800 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 5: or sell the land to the district. Then you have

676
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,280
Speaker 5: to deal with the district city council and it's definitely

677
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 5: split on there as to whether or not to what

678
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 5: they would do to get the team back in the

679
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:30,879
Speaker 5: mayor wants them. I do think that any group coming here,

680
00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:33,640
Speaker 5: that's the first place you have to try and make

681
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 5: it work. There was definite pessimism about that a couple

682
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 5: months ago. I'd say about a month ago I sensed

683
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,120
Speaker 5: a little bit more optimism, but I would still consider

684
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:46,400
Speaker 5: it a lot of obstacles there because you also have,

685
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:50,040
Speaker 5: like you know the split of the revenue. You have

686
00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:53,520
Speaker 5: neighborhoods there that would try to fight it, I do believe.

687
00:35:54,000 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 5: And then there's like you know, so there's a lot

688
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 5: there are definite issues there. But I would say if

689
00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,239
Speaker 5: from a fan standpoint, that would be the number one place.

690
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:03,320
Speaker 5: And I do think that any new that when Harris

691
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 5: comes in, they will absolutely look there, don't I think

692
00:36:06,680 --> 00:36:09,000
Speaker 5: ultimately it could be in Maryland again, close to where

693
00:36:09,000 --> 00:36:12,320
Speaker 5: they're at with their practice facilities, staying in Virginia.

694
00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:16,560
Speaker 2: Okay, let's do a little on the field, shall we? Yeah?

695
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 2: Is this are they? I mean, they're two dang good defensively,

696
00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:22,360
Speaker 2: I would think, but it does feel like they could be.

697
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: This is a great quarterback draft. Is that hanging over

698
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:26,719
Speaker 2: this season for them?

699
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:28,280
Speaker 3: No?

700
00:36:28,280 --> 00:36:30,959
Speaker 5: No, no, I think because for the reason you said,

701
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:34,520
Speaker 5: I would be surprised. First of all, Ron Rivera's in

702
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:38,279
Speaker 5: his fourth year here. They haven't had a winning season. Now,

703
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,200
Speaker 5: they did win the division a few years ago in

704
00:36:40,239 --> 00:36:42,680
Speaker 5: his first year, but there were seven and nine. They

705
00:36:42,680 --> 00:36:44,879
Speaker 5: haven't had a winning year. And you have a new

706
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,960
Speaker 5: owner unless the owner says, yes, I want you to

707
00:36:47,960 --> 00:36:50,879
Speaker 5: thank and we'll keep you no matter what. And then

708
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,919
Speaker 5: in that case, you've got to start selling off parts

709
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 5: because they would be too good to go that to

710
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 5: be that bad. And you know, to me, like you

711
00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:02,279
Speaker 5: have a they actually have a pretty decent roster. The

712
00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,239
Speaker 5: quarterback situation is the one. But if you if you

713
00:37:05,600 --> 00:37:08,520
Speaker 5: to get in that top three picks, you'd have to

714
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 5: get rid of so many good players that you're really

715
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:14,560
Speaker 5: selling your franchise back years. Even if you get a quarterback,

716
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 5: and even then, as we know, as hands have seen,

717
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,120
Speaker 5: you get to top, you get a number one thing

718
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:23,239
Speaker 5: that overall it may not work out for you. So

719
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:25,680
Speaker 5: you build the roster and you try and get the

720
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 5: guy that you like when you can. And they do

721
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,160
Speaker 5: like Sam Howe. I know a lot of people I

722
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,680
Speaker 5: think don't quite understand that, but they really do like him,

723
00:37:35,200 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 5: and I think they feel like they have a shot

724
00:37:36,840 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 5: with him. But they built a good roster on defense,

725
00:37:39,600 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 5: especially questions on the offense. They I think they'll be

726
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:47,439
Speaker 5: an intriguing team because so much of it depends on

727
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 5: on Sam Howe. And I also say, you know, I

728
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,040
Speaker 5: think the biggest move they made this offseason, well not

729
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,080
Speaker 5: even think it was, was hiring Eric the Enemy, and

730
00:37:56,440 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 5: I know that he is a popular guy as far

731
00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:01,560
Speaker 5: as like, you know, the poster childs for not getting

732
00:38:01,560 --> 00:38:04,600
Speaker 5: a head coaching job. He's made an impact here already.

733
00:38:04,760 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 5: And and I, you know, and like the more he

734
00:38:07,880 --> 00:38:10,959
Speaker 5: talked to players, you talked to coaches, just what he's brought.

735
00:38:11,040 --> 00:38:12,880
Speaker 5: I think he'll help them. So I think they'll be

736
00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 5: I just don't see them being bad enough short of

737
00:38:15,719 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 5: a lot of injuries to climb into that into that

738
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:22,240
Speaker 5: world of getting a Caleb Williams or Drake May someone

739
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 5: like that. So you know, so yeah, I don't know.

740
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:30,680
Speaker 5: I don't see that. I don't see that, yeah, John.

741
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:32,319
Speaker 2: And the other thing is is like Sam Howell was

742
00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,080
Speaker 2: Drake May before his last year at North Carolina, people

743
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,040
Speaker 2: thought he was gonna be the number one pick. He

744
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:39,480
Speaker 2: was that guy, like he was the guy everybody talked about.

745
00:38:39,719 --> 00:38:42,360
Speaker 2: Are you hearing whispers? You know when you talk to players,

746
00:38:42,400 --> 00:38:46,120
Speaker 2: do they they think he's got the juice for it? Yes?

747
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:48,479
Speaker 5: And you know the other thing is, as you know, yeah,

748
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 5: they And at the end of last year, basically Tara

749
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:56,200
Speaker 5: Heineke told me He's like, yeah, I'd be comfortable coming

750
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 5: back here and backing him up, not competing with him,

751
00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:01,200
Speaker 5: but backing him up. That's how he viewed it at

752
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:03,040
Speaker 5: the end of lest year because he's like, he's going

753
00:39:03,080 --> 00:39:05,880
Speaker 5: to be really good. So like you know, so I

754
00:39:06,120 --> 00:39:09,080
Speaker 5: and I other guys were saying that too. Now you know,

755
00:39:09,920 --> 00:39:12,759
Speaker 5: is this hyperbole? Well you know some of it is,

756
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 5: because we don't know. And as you know, as if

757
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,400
Speaker 5: people there have heard for years like this guy's going

758
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:20,520
Speaker 5: to be the guy, and next thing you know, you're

759
00:39:20,560 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 5: on quarterback number thirty five since nineteen ninety one, right, right,

760
00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,839
Speaker 5: so we've all seen like I'm speaking to a fan

761
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,800
Speaker 5: base that knows very well about the quest for quarterback

762
00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:34,319
Speaker 5: search and this one is in the same boat. And

763
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:36,680
Speaker 5: but I will say, like I think, what there are

764
00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:39,640
Speaker 5: a couple of things that I think, Now, again you

765
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:41,880
Speaker 5: don't know how good will be. But if he's better

766
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:45,799
Speaker 5: than what they've had, which isn't hasn't been great, then

767
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:48,480
Speaker 5: that's an upgrade for them. And could he be a

768
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 5: is he a top half guy when it's all said

769
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,319
Speaker 5: and done, I don't know, but if he's in, if

770
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 5: he's in that middle range, I think that would be

771
00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:59,239
Speaker 5: that would be a step up for them, right, So

772
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 5: I think that was so yeah, So I don't know

773
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,719
Speaker 5: how Gon to be. But what I do like with

774
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,319
Speaker 5: him that they like he's got some mobility. He's got

775
00:40:07,360 --> 00:40:10,040
Speaker 5: the quick twitch arms so when you know, there were

776
00:40:10,080 --> 00:40:12,279
Speaker 5: times where even in practice he might be late with

777
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:14,439
Speaker 5: a throw, but he can get in there because once

778
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 5: you recognize it, he'd lets it go. There's no hesitation.

779
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 5: So he's got trace that they like that they can

780
00:40:20,160 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 5: build around. But he's young. He's made one start and

781
00:40:24,080 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 5: you know, so like they're gonna be growing paints and

782
00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 5: you haven't. He's in a new offense. It just it

783
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 5: doesn't add up to instant success. If you build the

784
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,160
Speaker 5: right roster around that guy on defense, they could be

785
00:40:35,239 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 5: really good. Then that helps a lot. And then you

786
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:39,759
Speaker 5: have Jacoby Brissette behind him. And I think he's the

787
00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,160
Speaker 5: guy they really like, just because as you know, people

788
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:44,600
Speaker 5: in Cleveland though, the guy is just a pro. And

789
00:40:44,640 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 5: I think you know, so if it doesn't, if it

790
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 5: doesn't go well for him, you have Jacoby right there,

791
00:40:49,719 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 5: and so that's a good insurance policy for them.

792
00:40:52,520 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 2: He'll be a home run. John kyn follow him at

793
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,360
Speaker 2: John Underscore Kime. Be sure to check out the podcast

794
00:40:57,360 --> 00:41:00,160
Speaker 2: to John Kyme Report wherever you get your podcast. That's

795
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: one real quick, get you out of here on this

796
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,000
Speaker 2: Chase Young. Is he played this season in Washington?

797
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 5: Yes, yeah, yeah. All the all us talk about like

798
00:41:08,880 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 5: the Steelers are in the one No no, no, no,

799
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 5: it's not like they want Here's the thing. If he

800
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,760
Speaker 5: does well, it helps this coaching staff keep their jobs.

801
00:41:19,080 --> 00:41:22,760
Speaker 5: He is a potential playmaker. The other thing is teams

802
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 5: were not calling about him before the draft, so nothing

803
00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,400
Speaker 5: has really changed since the draft. Between the draft and

804
00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 5: now other than he showed up from mandatory three day

805
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:34,879
Speaker 5: mini camp and in shorts and a helmet, looked pretty good.

806
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 5: So you know what I mean, Like, there's no reason

807
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 5: to now if you get to the trade trade deadline,

808
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:43,240
Speaker 5: and this goes back to what you're talking about earlier.

809
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,320
Speaker 5: If you get to the trade deadline and the team's

810
00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:47,359
Speaker 5: two and six or two and seven and Rivera has

811
00:41:47,360 --> 00:41:49,839
Speaker 5: been fired, well that's when you say, and he Chase

812
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,200
Speaker 5: is actually doing pretty well but maybe not awesome, then

813
00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,600
Speaker 5: I could see him trading him, you know, because Ven

814
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 5: it's like Ven, he's a free agent. And if you

815
00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 5: don't think you're gonna keep him, because you you know,

816
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,400
Speaker 5: you may be entering into a different situation if you

817
00:42:03,440 --> 00:42:05,920
Speaker 5: don't have the quarterback right then you want to go

818
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 5: a different route. That's where I could see it happening,

819
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,799
Speaker 5: but right now I don't see it. I mean they

820
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 5: they have told him, if you go out and produce,

821
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,279
Speaker 5: we will find a way to pay you and keep

822
00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:18,360
Speaker 5: you a rout. And that's where it goes back to

823
00:42:18,440 --> 00:42:21,920
Speaker 5: how being on a rookie contract allows them to have

824
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:25,720
Speaker 5: an expensive defensive line at least for the next few years.

825
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,120
Speaker 5: So yeah, I do think he plays there, And you know,

826
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 5: I think their their strategy with this at the fifth

827
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:35,520
Speaker 5: year option now picking it up is to see if

828
00:42:35,520 --> 00:42:38,040
Speaker 5: it motivates him, and talking to some guys, I think

829
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 5: it is, So you know, I do see him playing

830
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 5: there this year.

831
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: John, great stuff. Really appreciate your time. Always enjoy the conversation.

832
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:46,720
Speaker 2: Thanks for giving us some of your time today.

833
00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 5: Awesome, Thanks for having me on ours.

834
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Speaker 2: for details on that. All right, let's take a look

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Speaker 2: the categories for the commis. Let's just start with this,

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00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:11,760
Speaker 2: gibbe Yes, with all due respect to John, my advice

847
00:44:11,800 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 2: to ownership would be to change that thing right now.

848
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 2: Its association is with Snyder.

849
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,759
Speaker 3: Couldn't I couldn't even look at you because I was like,

850
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 3: like heartbroken.

851
00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,480
Speaker 2: It's with Snyder, the associations with Snyder. It did not

852
00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 2: land there. All are are alternatives, including just going back

853
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,279
Speaker 2: to the Washington football team and having the old uniforms

854
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:35,759
Speaker 2: with the with the script R or the run in

855
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:40,279
Speaker 2: w whatever. Like you cannot roll that clown show out

856
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,840
Speaker 2: for the foreseeable future and say we are the commanders

857
00:44:42,920 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 2: like you.

858
00:44:43,320 --> 00:44:46,319
Speaker 3: Just went out there. There is something to what you're

859
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 3: saying from just going on and going we're gonna start

860
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 3: from scratch right now, right now, we're gonna get to

861
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,479
Speaker 3: the stadium. We know all that big months of ball

862
00:44:54,480 --> 00:44:58,000
Speaker 3: hanging out there. But we're gonna start by just rebranding this.

863
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 3: We're gonna go back to the old school.

864
00:45:00,120 --> 00:45:02,320
Speaker 2: We're gonna look the way this team needs to look.

865
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: And whatever the name is you want to do, Redtails,

866
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:08,279
Speaker 2: red Wolves, red batch of a foot football team, whatever, like,

867
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 2: they need to look a certain way. They cannot look

868
00:45:11,600 --> 00:45:13,640
Speaker 2: the way that they currently look. And the other thing

869
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,880
Speaker 2: I would say he brought up the Guardians rebrand. The

870
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 2: Guardians are almost you can't even tell the difference they

871
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,680
Speaker 2: had taken. They had pushed off Wahoo for years. Like

872
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:26,719
Speaker 2: he hadn't been available for years, he hadn't been on

873
00:45:26,760 --> 00:45:28,759
Speaker 2: the hat for quite a while. If you just look

874
00:45:28,760 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: at him from afar, there's still I mean even I

875
00:45:31,480 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 2: ans if you just look at it quickly, it looks

876
00:45:35,640 --> 00:45:39,160
Speaker 2: the same. You know, like it it's a non move.

877
00:45:39,320 --> 00:45:41,920
Speaker 2: It's it's just it's always going to be disruptive to

878
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:43,920
Speaker 2: a fan base when you take away the identity of

879
00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,319
Speaker 2: the team. I get it. People are gonna be bitter

880
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,880
Speaker 2: about it. Something may never get over it. But in

881
00:45:47,960 --> 00:45:54,400
Speaker 2: terms of the minimal difference, it's minimal from Indians to Guardians,

882
00:45:55,160 --> 00:45:57,719
Speaker 2: Redskins football team commanders.

883
00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: But I do agree with him in the sense that

884
00:46:02,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 3: with the Guardians they win. Yeah. I mean, I don't

885
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,240
Speaker 3: know how many people are going to games these days,

886
00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:11,560
Speaker 3: but come October they're in the playoffs.

887
00:46:11,600 --> 00:46:13,640
Speaker 2: They had one hundred and sixty five thousand over the

888
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 2: stretch last weekend. Yeah, and still like, if you're flipping

889
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:19,759
Speaker 2: and you see that uniform, it looks the same. It

890
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 2: looks like a Cleveland baseball team.

891
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:24,760
Speaker 3: Yeah. So winning helps. If you'll lose, everything gets magnificent.

892
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 2: I just think the association with Snyder, I would do

893
00:46:26,719 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 2: everything in my power to get rid of it. So

894
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:31,120
Speaker 2: I would go back to what they wore under Joe Gibbs.

895
00:46:31,440 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 2: If you want to be the football team, that's fine.

896
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 2: Obviously they can't have the redskin logo on the side

897
00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 2: of the helmet. Although if you read the reporting on that,

898
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,360
Speaker 2: Blackie Wetzel, the guy who designed the logo Montana blackmat Indian,

899
00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:46,759
Speaker 2: loved it, loved it, took great pride in the fact

900
00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 2: that it was on the uniform, that that that logo

901
00:46:49,800 --> 00:46:52,640
Speaker 2: was all of that's out there. But if if you

902
00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:54,399
Speaker 2: feel like you want to stay away from that, fine,

903
00:46:54,800 --> 00:46:56,439
Speaker 2: but you got to go back to the old look.

904
00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: And if you want to put a W on the

905
00:46:58,239 --> 00:46:59,840
Speaker 2: side of the helmet or whatever, but you got to

906
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 2: They've got it. They've got to do that right away.

907
00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:05,920
Speaker 2: The stadium is garbage. It's the worst in the NFL.

908
00:47:07,080 --> 00:47:12,000
Speaker 3: Now, yeah, I think so. I mean, Jacksonville is not great,

909
00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:16,240
Speaker 3: but Washington is by far the worst. I still remember,

910
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:19,160
Speaker 3: like the girl coming into the booth last year. He's like, oh,

911
00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 3: this isn't so bad. I go, it's eleven am. Wait

912
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 3: till you have to actually call the game. And then

913
00:47:25,120 --> 00:47:27,080
Speaker 3: we got into the game and like the first break

914
00:47:27,080 --> 00:47:29,799
Speaker 3: he turned around and goes, wow, this is awful, and

915
00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:31,920
Speaker 3: I was like, yeah.

916
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,680
Speaker 2: What makes it so awful? From your guys' perspective?

917
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 3: You're in a corner and it's covered like there's a cop.

918
00:47:40,360 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 3: You don't know where the ball is from it, and

919
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 3: like it is it might as well be like you're

920
00:47:46,560 --> 00:47:49,000
Speaker 3: looking all the way down all the way Yeah, I

921
00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:52,560
Speaker 3: see trying to call it. They provide no TVs like

922
00:47:52,840 --> 00:47:56,480
Speaker 3: in the booth, ye they're in. They're in there because

923
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,799
Speaker 3: the stands are right there underneath you. The TVs are

924
00:47:59,880 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 3: up there and they're like old, like nineteen eighties, like

925
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:05,080
Speaker 3: oh yeah.

926
00:48:04,640 --> 00:48:06,840
Speaker 2: Well from a fan base, it's awful because it's impossible

927
00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: to get to if there's nothing to do around it is.

928
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:11,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the middle of nowhere.

929
00:48:11,200 --> 00:48:12,840
Speaker 2: So that's the problem there, and that's hard in the

930
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,759
Speaker 2: DMB to find a place it's middle of nowhere. But

931
00:48:14,800 --> 00:48:19,920
Speaker 2: they did road trip absolutely. I love DC, I love Maryland,

932
00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,160
Speaker 2: I love Baltimore and Aapolis, all of it sold I'm in,

933
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:24,879
Speaker 2: I think.

934
00:48:24,920 --> 00:48:26,319
Speaker 3: And it's so doable from here.

935
00:48:26,680 --> 00:48:28,359
Speaker 2: It is easy, easy.

936
00:48:28,120 --> 00:48:31,600
Speaker 3: Trip, very easy. I love it. My father was stationed

937
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 3: there for a little while when he was in the military.

938
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:40,680
Speaker 3: It's a I love DC. And like you said, Annapolis

939
00:48:40,760 --> 00:48:43,160
Speaker 3: is super close. You could fly into Baltimore.

940
00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,960
Speaker 2: You can't. Yeah, you have three airport options to fly into. Yeah.

941
00:48:48,000 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: So it's absolutely a big fan must thing to do

942
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 2: on a road trip. History go put up. I've always

943
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,160
Speaker 2: anytime I've been there, I find it very inspiring. Like

944
00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,399
Speaker 2: I feel like I like the last time I went there,

945
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 2: I was like, found a book by John McCollough on

946
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:05,280
Speaker 2: seventeen seventy six and I like devoured it just because

947
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:06,600
Speaker 2: I just the history of it all.

948
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:08,000
Speaker 3: It's amazing, you know.

949
00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 2: And every building, by the way is cool too.

950
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:13,480
Speaker 3: I would agree with that I went there when I

951
00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:16,120
Speaker 3: was young, so I didn't I don't think probably didn't

952
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,319
Speaker 3: have the appreciation that I would have now for that.

953
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:20,680
Speaker 2: If you had to pick a place to build a house,

954
00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,799
Speaker 2: hard to beat that place. Like he's overlooking the Potomac, like,

955
00:49:23,880 --> 00:49:25,040
Speaker 2: it's awesome.

956
00:49:25,239 --> 00:49:29,280
Speaker 3: Awesome spot. I mean everything, everything that you do there

957
00:49:29,719 --> 00:49:32,880
Speaker 3: is pretty amazing. I would also, I would tell you this,

958
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:36,760
Speaker 3: The oldest bar in DC is called the Old Ebbitt Grill.

959
00:49:37,000 --> 00:49:39,480
Speaker 2: Yep shit.

960
00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:44,760
Speaker 3: It's right by the White House and it is hosted

961
00:49:44,800 --> 00:49:49,759
Speaker 3: a who's who, presidents, heads of state. I mean it.

962
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 3: It's a great bar, and the food is pretty spectacular

963
00:49:53,520 --> 00:49:53,879
Speaker 3: as well.

964
00:49:54,880 --> 00:49:57,239
Speaker 2: If you could have anybody off of this roster, who

965
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:00,600
Speaker 2: would you want? They got a lot that I would like.

966
00:50:01,160 --> 00:50:04,600
Speaker 2: I would like their weapons. Yeah, I love McLaren, I

967
00:50:04,640 --> 00:50:07,360
Speaker 2: would love Curtis McLaren. Would be Terry McLaurin would be

968
00:50:07,400 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 2: the answer. But the other, honestly is probably Jonathan Allen

969
00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,919
Speaker 2: d tackle. Yeah, that's the that's the correct answer. Yeah,

970
00:50:15,960 --> 00:50:19,160
Speaker 2: from a need standpoint, that's the guy. Yeah, that's a

971
00:50:19,320 --> 00:50:23,560
Speaker 2: that'd be a game wrecker, all time favorite Washington football

972
00:50:23,600 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 2: team player.

973
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:28,000
Speaker 3: The first one that comes to mind, I know, he

974
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:31,359
Speaker 3: got enough bevy of trouble. But dexter manly.

975
00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:35,520
Speaker 2: Baby, Yeah, he was so intimidating, so good too though. Well,

976
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 2: him and Charles Man on that defensive line were ridiculous.

977
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:41,160
Speaker 2: I'll stay at that air. I'll go Darryl Green love

978
00:50:41,239 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 2: Daryl Green, Little Art Monk k oh yeah, Gary Clark, Yeah,

979
00:50:45,239 --> 00:50:46,920
Speaker 2: I had a lot of dudes. Jim Leashape played on

980
00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:49,600
Speaker 2: the on those Hogs lines. Joe Jacobe. Yeah, they had

981
00:50:49,600 --> 00:50:51,719
Speaker 2: a lot of They were they were solid. They were

982
00:50:51,719 --> 00:50:52,200
Speaker 2: a lot of fun.

983
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:54,600
Speaker 3: But that's how far back like you have to go.

984
00:50:54,920 --> 00:50:56,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's well.

985
00:50:56,160 --> 00:50:59,000
Speaker 3: They won r G three one had for one year.

986
00:50:59,600 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 2: They won three Super Bowls with Gibbs, with three different quarterbacks, yeah, ripping,

987
00:51:04,320 --> 00:51:08,719
Speaker 2: ripping Williams thisman. Yeah, three different quarterbacks and they won.

988
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,800
Speaker 2: They won three uh playoff team in the a F NFC.

989
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:16,759
Speaker 2: They might be if Howl's good. Their defense is great.

990
00:51:19,000 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 3: So Howl's going to be the guy Opert, Yeah, it'll

991
00:51:22,040 --> 00:51:25,319
Speaker 3: be hell. I don't know how well that plays well.

992
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:28,000
Speaker 2: He was Drake May the kid at North Carolina. Coming

993
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:30,040
Speaker 2: after sophomore year, everbody thought he was gonna go number

994
00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:33,080
Speaker 2: one overall, and then that next year Carolina graduated all

995
00:51:33,080 --> 00:51:35,240
Speaker 2: their skill position talent and he didn't put up the numbers,

996
00:51:35,800 --> 00:51:37,640
Speaker 2: but he was really well regarded.

997
00:51:38,880 --> 00:51:42,520
Speaker 3: He play Did he play there last year?

998
00:51:42,600 --> 00:51:44,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was, He was in a second year.

999
00:51:44,719 --> 00:51:47,280
Speaker 3: That's the guy. That's the guy they boot. No, Carson

1000
00:51:47,320 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 3: Wentz was the guy.

1001
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 2: That Wentz they voted yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah yeah.

1002
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:54,840
Speaker 2: So biggest biggest offseason addition or loss ownership.

1003
00:51:55,600 --> 00:51:58,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, just to ask anybody in DC, they'll tell.

1004
00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:02,240
Speaker 2: You that's the biggest of those final hour of the program.

1005
00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:04,480
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1017
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 2: Do we know what?

1018
00:52:57,719 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 3: Do we know?

1019
00:52:58,000 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 2: Who's leading this?

1020
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:03,719
Speaker 3: Yeah? His name is Jacob Solomon. Oh right, he is

1021
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 3: minus four through fifteen holes, minus four to US Open

1022
00:53:08,880 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: minus four. That's getting after it. I mean minus four

1023
00:53:11,880 --> 00:53:16,040
Speaker 3: in pre times wins. Yeah, that might it'll stay there.

1024
00:53:16,640 --> 00:53:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it is weird, it doesn't you know, like usually

1025
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:22,839
Speaker 2: LA this time of year is son kissed and it's

1026
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:23,600
Speaker 2: been overcast.

1027
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:26,600
Speaker 3: You got a co leader Ricky fowler Man.

1028
00:53:26,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 2: That'd be a hell of a story.

1029
00:53:27,719 --> 00:53:29,720
Speaker 3: Oh if he's in it on Sunday.

1030
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:32,120
Speaker 2: That would be so cool. He's the nicest dude he is.

1031
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:36,279
Speaker 2: He signs everything. He is so kind, so polite, even

1032
00:53:36,320 --> 00:53:39,120
Speaker 2: if his game as his game went to garbage because

1033
00:53:39,160 --> 00:53:41,240
Speaker 2: he's like he was a point where had to qualify

1034
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:44,960
Speaker 2: for this time. Yeah, but he's gotten his form back

1035
00:53:45,000 --> 00:53:46,840
Speaker 2: and I think he was really good at Memorial to

1036
00:53:46,880 --> 00:53:49,319
Speaker 2: the last three days. So the fact that he is

1037
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:51,959
Speaker 2: in the mix would be that's cool. He's he's really

1038
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:52,880
Speaker 2: really easy to root for.

1039
00:53:53,160 --> 00:53:57,840
Speaker 3: Absolutely. Let's see who else is in this mix. Zander

1040
00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:03,600
Speaker 3: Schoffley is three under Max Homer two wonder we wrote

1041
00:54:03,800 --> 00:54:08,760
Speaker 3: Rice and d Chambeau is one under just a familiar

1042
00:54:08,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 3: guys then Scheffler's even Jordan or John Rahm is even.

1043
00:54:13,520 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 3: So some of these guys are out there on.

1044
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:16,879
Speaker 2: The course just getting going a little bit.

1045
00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was gonna say there are So you have

1046
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:24,040
Speaker 3: two different tea boxes going. Yeah, so first hole and

1047
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,960
Speaker 3: the tenth hole. Okay, so when you got.

1048
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 2: To have a whole group clear before you can send

1049
00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:29,840
Speaker 2: another one and the next.

1050
00:54:29,640 --> 00:54:32,640
Speaker 3: Group will go out in the afternoon. So Morikawa's at

1051
00:54:32,680 --> 00:54:39,040
Speaker 3: plus one. Yeah, there's a couple guys not playing so well.

1052
00:54:39,200 --> 00:54:43,240
Speaker 3: Justin Rose at plus five. Patrick Reid is at plus five.

1053
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:45,200
Speaker 2: Well that makes me happy.

1054
00:54:45,360 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. The next group of guys goes out at three fifteen.

1055
00:54:52,080 --> 00:54:54,520
Speaker 2: Our time, so that's noon fifteen their time.

1056
00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,320
Speaker 3: Yep. Phil Mickelson to go out right around four o'clock.

1057
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 2: Like Koepka and roar together.

1058
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:05,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, Speed fifty five, that's right at five o'clock. Speith

1059
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:08,320
Speaker 3: is at four forty five, females at four forty five.

1060
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,640
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, Well, and.

1061
00:55:11,680 --> 00:55:15,560
Speaker 3: A little bit of news, of course, because why wouldn't

1062
00:55:15,560 --> 00:55:17,360
Speaker 3: you want this this weekend with the US open, The

1063
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:19,640
Speaker 3: US Department of Justice has opened a review of the

1064
00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:23,680
Speaker 3: PGA tours planned alliance with DP World Tour in Saudi

1065
00:55:23,719 --> 00:55:25,600
Speaker 3: Arabia's public Investment Fund.

1066
00:55:26,000 --> 00:55:29,400
Speaker 2: It's going to be tricky, so they this is not

1067
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,600
Speaker 2: Saudi based, but the Saudi based group has bought Newcastle

1068
00:55:34,840 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 2: United in the Premier League. There is a Katari sheik

1069
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,600
Speaker 2: who owns man City and then a different Katari sheik

1070
00:55:43,840 --> 00:55:48,600
Speaker 2: is now an exclusive negotiating rights with Manchester United. Similar,

1071
00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 2: I want to say, with PSG Paris Saint Germain in

1072
00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,560
Speaker 2: Europe as well. So they've got a lot of money

1073
00:55:55,600 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: to spend, kind of infinite it seems, and they are

1074
00:55:59,800 --> 00:56:03,480
Speaker 2: that region, those that those oil rich countries they are

1075
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:07,360
Speaker 2: going to throw enormous sums of money at. There's going

1076
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:09,799
Speaker 2: to be one in an NFL team. I mean it's

1077
00:56:09,840 --> 00:56:14,799
Speaker 2: coming that the money is going to be transcendent, so

1078
00:56:15,000 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 2: there will be more and more. I did see that

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00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,560
Speaker 2: from the Justice Department. I don't know what.

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00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:22,040
Speaker 3: I mean. They're looking to see if it violates federal

1081
00:56:22,040 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 3: antitrust laws. I've never seen one of these investigations actually

1082
00:56:25,400 --> 00:56:28,040
Speaker 3: go somewhere. Doesn't feel like I feel like they're just

1083
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,440
Speaker 3: spinning their way. Who would be anti trust? Like, who

1084
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:32,399
Speaker 3: would be the competitor that would be hurt by this.

1085
00:56:35,600 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 3: In a letter to the PGA commissioner, one of the

1086
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:44,440
Speaker 3: senators wrote he had serious questions about compensation arrangements formal

1087
00:56:44,520 --> 00:56:49,399
Speaker 3: or informal, proposed as part of the merger framework. They

1088
00:56:49,440 --> 00:56:52,760
Speaker 3: noted that the PGA Tour's most recent tax forms reported

1089
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:56,840
Speaker 3: that Monahan earned fourteen million in twenty twenty one. The

1090
00:56:56,960 --> 00:57:01,320
Speaker 3: two were in affiliated organizations, paid nineteen office and employees

1091
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:05,120
Speaker 3: more than one million annually, spent more than sixty three

1092
00:57:05,160 --> 00:57:07,200
Speaker 3: million in salaries for top staff.

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00:57:07,440 --> 00:57:09,920
Speaker 2: Well, so that goes back to why That was another

1094
00:57:10,200 --> 00:57:13,000
Speaker 2: big theory as to why the PGA wanted this sorted

1095
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,800
Speaker 2: out because they're allegedly a nonprofit. So that was the

1096
00:57:16,840 --> 00:57:21,360
Speaker 2: other issue is they don't want these books known, correct,

1097
00:57:22,240 --> 00:57:25,040
Speaker 2: because there was always this whisper about all right, how

1098
00:57:25,120 --> 00:57:29,040
Speaker 2: much this money is really going to charity? So that's

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00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:31,160
Speaker 2: so much. That's the other thing.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of money on senior PGA officials.

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00:57:34,280 --> 00:57:37,160
Speaker 2: That's sure, nineteen people making over a million bucks a

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00:57:37,200 --> 00:57:38,680
Speaker 2: year at the PGA.

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00:57:38,840 --> 00:57:42,440
Speaker 3: What exactly are they? What are you doing? What is

1104
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 3: your organization? Remember that first and foremost, one PGA Tour

1105
00:57:47,240 --> 00:57:50,760
Speaker 3: official notified employees this week that the outcome of the

1106
00:57:50,840 --> 00:57:53,240
Speaker 3: deal likely won't be known for at least a year.

1107
00:57:53,320 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 3: That goes back to your theory. They were going to

1108
00:57:56,280 --> 00:57:58,000
Speaker 3: get leaked. It was going to get leaked.

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00:57:58,080 --> 00:58:00,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, so they had to get it done. In the

1110
00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:04,880
Speaker 2: NFL world pretty quiet this week. Sean McDermott did say

1111
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:08,280
Speaker 2: that the Stefan Diggs matter has been resolved. It's interesting.

1112
00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:10,880
Speaker 2: So he came in Monday for camp and did his

1113
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:16,080
Speaker 2: testing skip the Tuesday. McDermott in Monday's availability act like

1114
00:58:16,080 --> 00:58:18,080
Speaker 2: he didn't know what was going on with him, and

1115
00:58:18,120 --> 00:58:21,000
Speaker 2: then it was concerning by the time he talks yesterday.

1116
00:58:21,080 --> 00:58:25,360
Speaker 2: McDermott says, we just needed some space and now everything's fine.

1117
00:58:25,840 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 2: So I don't know, I know what's going on there.

1118
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,360
Speaker 2: I do think there's a tremendous amount of pressure on them.

1119
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:32,880
Speaker 2: There was tremendous pressure on them last year. I think

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00:58:32,920 --> 00:58:35,560
Speaker 2: they know that they have spent in its go time,

1121
00:58:35,880 --> 00:58:37,680
Speaker 2: and I think they're feeling it right here. I think

1122
00:58:37,720 --> 00:58:38,600
Speaker 2: they're really feeling it.

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00:58:38,680 --> 00:58:43,120
Speaker 3: I do, and it's put up or shut up. We've

1124
00:58:43,160 --> 00:58:45,280
Speaker 3: talked about it. Yeah, they got to go out and

1125
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,560
Speaker 3: they actually have to do it. We'll see if Stefan

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00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 3: Diggs can play nice with his quarterback, because that seems

1127
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 3: to potentially.

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Speaker 2: Be Ellen had wax poetiquette, all sorts of nice things

1129
00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:56,120
Speaker 2: to say about him.

1130
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Speaker 3: Of course he did, so I know Stefan Diggs is

1131
00:58:58,680 --> 00:58:59,560
Speaker 3: getting his money, So.

1132
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Speaker 2: I don't know.

1133
00:59:00,400 --> 00:59:02,200
Speaker 3: I don't know what you want here.

1134
00:59:02,280 --> 00:59:04,880
Speaker 2: He was better, I want to say, Nick pointing this

1135
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:07,480
Speaker 2: out yesterday, he was better the first ten games than

1136
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:09,880
Speaker 2: he was the last seven last year, Like his production

1137
00:59:10,000 --> 00:59:11,760
Speaker 2: fell off a cliff after the first ten game, So

1138
00:59:12,240 --> 00:59:13,560
Speaker 2: I don't know. Maybe he had something to do with that,

1139
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:15,000
Speaker 2: but he got paid. So what differenced to make?

1140
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,000
Speaker 3: This? From Field Yates just a few minutes ago, ESPN

1141
00:59:18,080 --> 00:59:20,200
Speaker 3: on the last day before teams had off for NFL

1142
00:59:20,200 --> 00:59:23,959
Speaker 3: summer vacation. Look at how much cap space each team

1143
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:28,680
Speaker 3: officially has. The Bears the most cap space thirty one million,

1144
00:59:29,400 --> 00:59:32,760
Speaker 3: the Chiefs at thirty two, the least three hundred and

1145
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:36,040
Speaker 3: ninety three thousand. Might need to restructure some things to

1146
00:59:36,080 --> 00:59:39,160
Speaker 3: get you through the season, the Browns said at number ten,

1147
00:59:39,520 --> 00:59:43,480
Speaker 3: almost sixteen million available. Fifteen point nine million available.

1148
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you're you. You've got something there to work with.

1149
00:59:46,680 --> 00:59:47,960
Speaker 2: If you get to camp and you feel like you

1150
00:59:48,000 --> 00:59:53,160
Speaker 2: need another body on that defensive front. NBA playoff ratings

1151
00:59:53,520 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 2: pretty good five point four to seven million viewers per

1152
00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,560
Speaker 2: game during the NBA playoffs, the most watched playoffs in

1153
00:59:58,600 --> 01:00:03,040
Speaker 2: five years. Finals were eleven point six million, which is

1154
01:00:03,040 --> 01:00:06,640
Speaker 2: slightly down from twenty twenty two. I think that's justifiable.

1155
01:00:06,680 --> 01:00:08,360
Speaker 2: I mean it was twelve point four and twenty twenty

1156
01:00:08,400 --> 01:00:10,640
Speaker 2: two it was Warrior Celtics. They went six games and

1157
01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:13,280
Speaker 2: the games were competitive. This was five game gentlemen sweep.

1158
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:15,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, this is what we talked about the other day.

1159
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:17,560
Speaker 3: It just I mean, we knew the ratings weren't exactly

1160
01:00:17,560 --> 01:00:19,280
Speaker 3: they're going to be able to run for the finals,

1161
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 3: but they were great for the first round through the

1162
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:23,160
Speaker 3: conference finals.

1163
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:27,520
Speaker 2: They have somehow created parody in that sport, sport that

1164
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:30,520
Speaker 2: never had it has it now. So that's that's kind

1165
01:00:30,560 --> 01:00:33,400
Speaker 2: of a win for everybody. I did see this as well.

1166
01:00:33,440 --> 01:00:36,040
Speaker 2: Michael Jordan's flu game shoes fetch one point three to

1167
01:00:36,080 --> 01:00:41,400
Speaker 2: eight million. What piece of sports memorabilia would you want?

1168
01:00:42,080 --> 01:00:46,720
Speaker 3: Boy, I don't know if there's something that I'm paying

1169
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:47,400
Speaker 3: that much for.

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Speaker 2: Well, no, I'm just saying, like, if you could, if

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01:00:49,960 --> 01:00:52,320
Speaker 2: they said you can have anything in sport, any piece

1172
01:00:52,360 --> 01:00:56,400
Speaker 2: of memorability in sports. You put it on your wall.

1173
01:00:56,680 --> 01:01:01,360
Speaker 2: It's something that you know that people would be excited about.

1174
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:04,920
Speaker 2: I don't know the things that jumped to mind to me,

1175
01:01:08,320 --> 01:01:10,920
Speaker 2: you know, as a kid who grew up a Lakers fan,

1176
01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,280
Speaker 2: I initially thought of like a magic something from magic

1177
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 2: in the eighties. But honestly, the thing that I think

1178
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:21,200
Speaker 2: would be really cool would be Tiger Woods's first green jacket.

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01:01:22,080 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 3: Would be pretty cool. I mean, that's yeah, I mean.

1180
01:01:26,920 --> 01:01:32,040
Speaker 2: All time, there's one. It's an all time thing. He

1181
01:01:32,200 --> 01:01:36,600
Speaker 2: lapped the field. It was a Hello World moment. I

1182
01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 2: don't have any sort of, you know, in very little

1183
01:01:39,760 --> 01:01:41,800
Speaker 2: interaction with Tiger other than just talking to him every

1184
01:01:41,880 --> 01:01:43,400
Speaker 2: year at the memorial when he used to play all

1185
01:01:43,400 --> 01:01:47,120
Speaker 2: the time and ran that thing. But I don't know.

1186
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,080
Speaker 2: That's as I thought of it. That's the first thing

1187
01:01:49,120 --> 01:01:50,320
Speaker 2: that came to mind to me. There's a lot of

1188
01:01:50,320 --> 01:01:54,120
Speaker 2: cool stuff out there. But the Flu Game shoes. Is

1189
01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:58,000
Speaker 2: that the clincher? Or is that the game before? I

1190
01:01:58,000 --> 01:01:59,720
Speaker 2: can't remember if the Flu Game was the clincher.

1191
01:01:59,840 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 3: If no, I think that was the.

1192
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 2: That's not the shot like the shot when it's he

1193
01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,720
Speaker 2: pushes off on Byron Russell and then hits the shot,

1194
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:09,560
Speaker 2: which is actually like a game six, it's not even

1195
01:02:09,560 --> 01:02:10,200
Speaker 2: in a game seven.

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Speaker 3: That was Game five in the ninety seven finals, Okay,

1197
01:02:14,280 --> 01:02:17,080
Speaker 3: and that tied the series at two to two, okay?

1198
01:02:17,800 --> 01:02:18,480
Speaker 3: Or no? Was it?

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Speaker 2: No? That would have made it three to two because

1200
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:21,080
Speaker 2: they wanted since two.

1201
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:23,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, this was going into the game. It was two two.

1202
01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know that Jordan's teams there

1203
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:28,120
Speaker 2: were very few instances where they actually went to seven games.

1204
01:02:28,880 --> 01:02:30,520
Speaker 2: There might have been a Pacers team that took him

1205
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:33,640
Speaker 2: to seven once in an Eastern Conference final.

1206
01:02:33,400 --> 01:02:36,840
Speaker 3: But maybe far with John Starks that went four for

1207
01:02:36,840 --> 01:02:37,840
Speaker 3: forty five or something.

1208
01:02:37,840 --> 01:02:41,160
Speaker 2: Shoot that was against the Rockets in Game seven of

1209
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:43,960
Speaker 2: the NBA Finals when he was Yeah, when he went four,

1210
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: he just kept nineteen or whatever and he just kept

1211
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,160
Speaker 2: shooting and couldn't hit anything. Yeah, But I don't think

1212
01:02:49,160 --> 01:02:52,640
Speaker 2: that they ever They never they never played a great team.

1213
01:02:53,160 --> 01:02:55,000
Speaker 2: It just didn't There's a lot of factors to it,

1214
01:02:55,000 --> 01:02:57,280
Speaker 2: but they didn't. You know, the timing of it wasn't

1215
01:02:57,320 --> 01:03:01,840
Speaker 2: such that they ever had to beat a great team. Yeah.

1216
01:03:01,840 --> 01:03:03,240
Speaker 2: So there you go on that, all right, we want

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Speaker 2: to do Rodney coming up next, Yes, sir, all right,

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Speaker 2: coming up next, we led back to the podium, New

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Speaker 2: safety Rodney McCloud. You're listening to Cleveland Browns Daily brought

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome back getting Cleveland Browns Daily. Now let's

1225
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:50,000
Speaker 2: head back to the podium from Minnie Camp and new

1226
01:03:50,000 --> 01:03:51,400
Speaker 2: brown safety Rodney McCloud.

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Speaker 4: Roger here, team, great deal of talent here.

1228
01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:02,520
Speaker 6: Felt like a lot of guys uh that can contribute

1229
01:04:03,120 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 6: uh to bringing a winning culture. Of course Jim Schwartz

1230
01:04:07,720 --> 01:04:11,360
Speaker 6: as well, being with him and Philly understanding like the

1231
01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:13,800
Speaker 6: defense and knowing what type of man he is and

1232
01:04:13,880 --> 01:04:18,640
Speaker 6: coach that also helped and uh Andrew Berry as well.

1233
01:04:18,840 --> 01:04:21,520
Speaker 6: So excited to be here man. So like I said,

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01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:23,760
Speaker 6: it's a great deal of talent, brings the best out

1235
01:04:23,800 --> 01:04:26,160
Speaker 6: of you each and every day. So looking forward to

1236
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:29,720
Speaker 6: continue to build with these guys and hopefully be able

1237
01:04:29,720 --> 01:04:31,200
Speaker 6: to have a successful season this year.

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Speaker 7: So when you were with Jim obviously, you know, winning

1239
01:04:33,680 --> 01:04:35,160
Speaker 7: that super Bowl there. I mean, just tell us a

1240
01:04:35,160 --> 01:04:37,800
Speaker 7: little bit about what makes him so good, what it

1241
01:04:37,840 --> 01:04:38,320
Speaker 7: was to kind of.

1242
01:04:38,320 --> 01:04:42,400
Speaker 6: Drew really his passion, his energy each and every day,

1243
01:04:42,760 --> 01:04:46,760
Speaker 6: holding everybody accountable. Uh, demands the most out of you.

1244
01:04:46,840 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 6: He holds everybody to a very high standard. And that's

1245
01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 6: what you need in this in this business to win.

1246
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:53,800
Speaker 6: And so I think.

1247
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:55,800
Speaker 4: He's already established that here.

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01:04:55,920 --> 01:04:58,000
Speaker 6: And you could tell he's a he's a very he's

1249
01:04:58,040 --> 01:05:01,640
Speaker 6: a culture shifter, and so so I feel like, you know,

1250
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 6: that's what's needed. Like I said, he's going to demand

1251
01:05:04,120 --> 01:05:06,360
Speaker 6: excellence and just just an amazing guy.

1252
01:05:06,440 --> 01:05:08,880
Speaker 7: What was it about that group? I mean, you guys

1253
01:05:08,960 --> 01:05:11,439
Speaker 7: kind of broke that strange Yeah, won that super Bowl

1254
01:05:11,560 --> 01:05:13,200
Speaker 7: kind of out of nowhere? Like what was it about

1255
01:05:13,240 --> 01:05:14,960
Speaker 7: that group and him and just what you guys are

1256
01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:15,360
Speaker 7: able to do?

1257
01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:19,439
Speaker 6: Yeah, honestly, Yeah, it's really the culture. We really made

1258
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 6: it our own there, the players.

1259
01:05:21,600 --> 01:05:21,840
Speaker 2: One.

1260
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:24,080
Speaker 6: You know, it's it's obviously established by the coach, but

1261
01:05:24,080 --> 01:05:26,280
Speaker 6: it's another thing when the players actually take ownership in it.

1262
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,000
Speaker 4: And you can see that starting to form here.

1263
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 7: What sorry, little like when after that first wave free

1264
01:05:32,760 --> 01:05:35,920
Speaker 7: agency So what was that like for you, that that

1265
01:05:36,040 --> 01:05:37,080
Speaker 7: waiting period where.

1266
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,320
Speaker 4: Maybe you didn't know what was going to happen.

1267
01:05:38,920 --> 01:05:42,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's a lot different than what I've I've experienced

1268
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:44,800
Speaker 6: a lot earlier in my career. But at the end

1269
01:05:44,800 --> 01:05:48,960
Speaker 6: of the day, I think being with my family, knowing,

1270
01:05:49,160 --> 01:05:51,040
Speaker 6: you know, what I was able to do last last year,

1271
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:53,160
Speaker 6: what I was able to put on tape that Uh,

1272
01:05:53,200 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 6: you know, God had a plan and I think, you

1273
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:56,400
Speaker 6: know he brought me here for a reason.

1274
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:57,920
Speaker 4: Uh, it's a great alignment.

1275
01:05:58,360 --> 01:06:01,320
Speaker 6: Like I said, and Jim Andrew and the guys who

1276
01:06:01,320 --> 01:06:03,160
Speaker 6: are in this locker room. So I'm happy to be

1277
01:06:03,240 --> 01:06:07,320
Speaker 6: here and excited to man really just get out there,

1278
01:06:07,600 --> 01:06:09,880
Speaker 6: uh and win some games this year.

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01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 4: A little tippy at the end.

1280
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Speaker 3: What does that do for you?

1281
01:06:14,040 --> 01:06:14,880
Speaker 4: It's early on, but.

1282
01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,240
Speaker 2: Does that help get you guys like fired up and ready?

1283
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just the competitive edge and that's what you

1284
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,480
Speaker 6: want to see from from guys. You know, it means

1285
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:23,480
Speaker 6: something to them.

1286
01:06:23,720 --> 01:06:25,880
Speaker 4: And you know.

1287
01:06:25,440 --> 01:06:27,680
Speaker 6: Over the course of these OTA's we've been you know,

1288
01:06:27,680 --> 01:06:28,600
Speaker 6: a little reserved.

1289
01:06:29,040 --> 01:06:29,240
Speaker 2: Uh.

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01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:32,280
Speaker 6: So guys are just looking forward to actually getting out there,

1291
01:06:32,520 --> 01:06:36,120
Speaker 6: competing one versus one another, making each other better. You

1292
01:06:36,160 --> 01:06:39,720
Speaker 6: know iron shoppers aren't. So Uh it's good competitive fun.

1293
01:06:40,080 --> 01:06:43,000
Speaker 6: I love some good trash talking, so uh you saw

1294
01:06:43,040 --> 01:06:44,680
Speaker 6: a little bit of that today.

1295
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,240
Speaker 2: Team is also like the smartest player on the team

1296
01:06:48,640 --> 01:06:49,520
Speaker 2: something yourself.

1297
01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 6: Yeah, I feel like I mean, I'm definitely one of

1298
01:06:52,440 --> 01:06:53,760
Speaker 6: the smartest guys.

1299
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:55,640
Speaker 4: I feel like I got a real good sense of

1300
01:06:55,680 --> 01:06:56,040
Speaker 4: the game.

1301
01:06:56,560 --> 01:06:59,640
Speaker 6: Uh, you know high football IQ, And I think you

1302
01:06:59,680 --> 01:07:02,240
Speaker 6: need somebody Uh not only are p people as a

1303
01:07:02,280 --> 01:07:05,720
Speaker 6: safety as well who understands the defense uh, as a

1304
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,920
Speaker 6: good communicator and can get guys lined up.

1305
01:07:08,400 --> 01:07:13,040
Speaker 7: You said culture, Yeah, how does that get them from?

1306
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,280
Speaker 4: H really from the players leaders on the team.

1307
01:07:15,520 --> 01:07:15,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1308
01:07:15,800 --> 01:07:18,640
Speaker 6: And like I said, the best teams that I've been around,

1309
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,240
Speaker 6: the most successful teams, you can see that the players

1310
01:07:21,320 --> 01:07:24,160
Speaker 6: really hold uh the team values close to their heart.

1311
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:24,760
Speaker 3: Uh.

1312
01:07:24,760 --> 01:07:27,280
Speaker 6: They hold everybody accountable. They set the standard each and

1313
01:07:27,320 --> 01:07:29,120
Speaker 6: every day. Uh, and they lead by example.

1314
01:07:29,680 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 7: So it's a line and grant A lot of the time,

1315
01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:34,000
Speaker 7: you guys used three safety.

1316
01:07:34,360 --> 01:07:36,160
Speaker 2: What what is that to for this defense?

1317
01:07:36,280 --> 01:07:38,400
Speaker 4: You guys that could be pretty good set.

1318
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:42,000
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm excited. We're I think we're all playmakers in

1319
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:42,680
Speaker 6: our own way.

1320
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:43,080
Speaker 5: Uh.

1321
01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:44,720
Speaker 6: And then gym is gonna find the best way to

1322
01:07:44,800 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 6: utilize all of us in our strengths.

1323
01:07:46,800 --> 01:07:46,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

1324
01:07:47,040 --> 01:07:48,400
Speaker 2: And that's what I'm most excited about.

1325
01:07:48,600 --> 01:07:50,760
Speaker 6: It's a real good room, you know, from the corners

1326
01:07:50,760 --> 01:07:54,080
Speaker 6: to the safeties, uh, linebackers, and you know, of course

1327
01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:54,800
Speaker 6: the D line.

1328
01:07:55,080 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 2: Uh.

1329
01:07:55,400 --> 01:07:57,360
Speaker 4: So I think we're gonna make a lot of players

1330
01:07:57,360 --> 01:07:57,800
Speaker 4: this year.

1331
01:07:58,200 --> 01:08:01,680
Speaker 6: Right now, it's just about building the chemistry, understanding the defense,

1332
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,200
Speaker 6: and then letting it all hang out when it's when

1333
01:08:04,200 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 6: it's time to go out there and play.

1334
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:08,240
Speaker 2: Is there something that makes him a good communicator a

1335
01:08:08,240 --> 01:08:09,080
Speaker 2: good teacher.

1336
01:08:08,800 --> 01:08:10,320
Speaker 4: That you guys pick at.

1337
01:08:11,480 --> 01:08:14,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, Jim's probably he probably is the smartest

1338
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:16,880
Speaker 6: in the building, to be honest, outside of myself.

1339
01:08:16,520 --> 01:08:20,160
Speaker 4: But no, no, he I mean he knows so much.

1340
01:08:20,600 --> 01:08:23,400
Speaker 6: And I think what you know I love most about

1341
01:08:23,479 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 6: Jim is he's a genuine a guy.

1342
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 4: He really cares about each player.

1343
01:08:29,560 --> 01:08:29,880
Speaker 3: Uh.

1344
01:08:29,920 --> 01:08:32,360
Speaker 4: He invests in us and getting to know us.

1345
01:08:32,520 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 6: And I think when he when he does challenge you,

1346
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:38,760
Speaker 6: and you know in those moments, you know it's coming

1347
01:08:38,800 --> 01:08:39,559
Speaker 6: from a good place.

1348
01:08:39,960 --> 01:08:42,760
Speaker 4: And so uh, you know, he he is a talker. U.

1349
01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,599
Speaker 6: He shares a lot of stories, but it's all because

1350
01:08:45,600 --> 01:08:47,240
Speaker 6: he cares and uh.

1351
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:49,120
Speaker 4: You know, I'm glad to be back with him this year.

1352
01:08:50,760 --> 01:08:54,200
Speaker 6: Uh, the other guys, especially in the secondary, since you're

1353
01:08:54,320 --> 01:08:58,120
Speaker 6: so familiar with this, Yeah, I've been dropping a lot

1354
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:01,320
Speaker 6: of knowledge on them, just uh over my time being

1355
01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,240
Speaker 6: with Jim five years in Philly and trying to help them,

1356
01:09:04,360 --> 01:09:05,840
Speaker 6: you know, get up to speed a lot quicker.

1357
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:06,400
Speaker 1: Uh.

1358
01:09:06,400 --> 01:09:08,040
Speaker 6: And that's what I can you know, bring to this

1359
01:09:08,080 --> 01:09:10,519
Speaker 6: team outside of uh, you know, my abilities on the

1360
01:09:10,520 --> 01:09:12,920
Speaker 6: field and leadership, but it's also the knowledge of the

1361
01:09:12,960 --> 01:09:16,679
Speaker 6: scheme and helping guys out in that way, so that uh,

1362
01:09:17,040 --> 01:09:19,200
Speaker 6: you know, kind of share a lot of insight.

1363
01:09:19,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 4: Do you think that there's any similarities.

1364
01:09:20,840 --> 01:09:22,639
Speaker 8: I know it was early stuff, but between your early

1365
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,439
Speaker 8: days in Philly compared to you getting here now, seeing

1366
01:09:25,439 --> 01:09:28,200
Speaker 8: that it's a coordinates, seeing kind of young corporate guys

1367
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,920
Speaker 8: that you're working with, defensibility, seeing similarities right now?

1368
01:09:30,960 --> 01:09:33,360
Speaker 6: An you think yeah, uh, you know, like I said

1369
01:09:33,439 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 6: from the cornerback room, I think what helped us win

1370
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:40,320
Speaker 6: in Philly was we had a great cornerback play and

1371
01:09:40,320 --> 01:09:44,639
Speaker 6: and that's obvious here with Denzel Ward, you know, Greg

1372
01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:47,439
Speaker 6: and and also Emerson in the back end, and then

1373
01:09:47,479 --> 01:09:50,639
Speaker 6: you add Delping and wan Thor Hill you know, reminds

1374
01:09:50,640 --> 01:09:53,759
Speaker 6: me a lot of my times with myself and and Malcolm.

1375
01:09:53,800 --> 01:09:56,519
Speaker 6: So I think the pieces are there, it's just now

1376
01:09:56,560 --> 01:09:57,360
Speaker 6: about execution.

1377
01:09:58,160 --> 01:10:00,760
Speaker 9: Funny, how common is it that defensive ornator, that extra

1378
01:10:00,840 --> 01:10:02,160
Speaker 9: coach rain on the line of strewings like that?

1379
01:10:02,240 --> 01:10:03,920
Speaker 3: I mean, if you have other defensive opinaders do.

1380
01:10:03,880 --> 01:10:04,799
Speaker 2: That abroughut your career?

1381
01:10:05,360 --> 01:10:08,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think you know it's it's one of the trenches.

1382
01:10:08,120 --> 01:10:11,920
Speaker 6: Man up front, it's big and and Jim stresses that,

1383
01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 6: you know, we're gonna lean on the defensive line, We're

1384
01:10:13,640 --> 01:10:15,880
Speaker 6: gonna allow in the attack. Uh They're gonna set the

1385
01:10:15,880 --> 01:10:18,880
Speaker 6: tempo for the team, and I think we got we

1386
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:21,040
Speaker 6: got the right guys up front to do so. Uh

1387
01:10:21,040 --> 01:10:22,880
Speaker 6: So I'm very excited because that makes our job a

1388
01:10:22,880 --> 01:10:23,960
Speaker 6: lot easier in the back end.

1389
01:10:24,080 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 4: You know, they're applying pressure, we take advantage of it.

1390
01:10:27,160 --> 01:10:29,160
Speaker 7: What's what's it like for you at the stage you're

1391
01:10:29,240 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 7: coming and kind of knowing you're being brought in to

1392
01:10:31,400 --> 01:10:34,519
Speaker 7: be obviously a place to also be like that leader

1393
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:36,080
Speaker 7: and be that guy that sets that tone.

1394
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,080
Speaker 4: Yeah, how was that different? Yeah, it's a lot different.

1395
01:10:40,479 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 6: But I've accepted that and understand that's what's asking me

1396
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:44,800
Speaker 6: this year.

1397
01:10:45,320 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 4: Uh, and so I'm just.

1398
01:10:46,280 --> 01:10:49,040
Speaker 6: Really looking to be an asset to this team and

1399
01:10:49,080 --> 01:10:51,960
Speaker 6: however that looks, you know, if it's if it means

1400
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,400
Speaker 6: you know, coming in three SETI packages X amount of snaps,

1401
01:10:55,479 --> 01:10:57,960
Speaker 6: or if that means eventually, you know, being a starter.

1402
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 4: You know, I'm ready for for it all. Just looking

1403
01:11:01,560 --> 01:11:02,240
Speaker 4: to contribute.

1404
01:11:02,640 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 5: Uh.

1405
01:11:02,920 --> 01:11:05,559
Speaker 6: And like I said, helped his team win. I'm really

1406
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:08,120
Speaker 6: fit it for a championship. So uh, that's that's my

1407
01:11:08,200 --> 01:11:09,640
Speaker 6: purpose and then that's what I'm here to do.

1408
01:11:09,760 --> 01:11:12,120
Speaker 7: And it was that sort of I mean, Malcolm was

1409
01:11:12,200 --> 01:11:14,439
Speaker 7: kind of that leader for you guys, sort.

1410
01:11:14,240 --> 01:11:16,200
Speaker 4: Of did you like learn from him?

1411
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:19,040
Speaker 6: I learned a lot from Malcolm during my time there,

1412
01:11:19,080 --> 01:11:21,920
Speaker 6: you know, being that close to him in the locker room,

1413
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:23,720
Speaker 6: saying the outside, and I felt like we were both

1414
01:11:23,800 --> 01:11:26,160
Speaker 6: leaders at the same time but led in different ways.

1415
01:11:26,600 --> 01:11:28,640
Speaker 6: And so when you know, he stepped away, I was

1416
01:11:28,680 --> 01:11:31,639
Speaker 6: asked to, uh, you know, be a lot more vocal

1417
01:11:31,840 --> 01:11:34,400
Speaker 6: than maybe I'll had it in the past and really

1418
01:11:34,920 --> 01:11:38,920
Speaker 6: accept that challenge. So uh, you know, somebody that I

1419
01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:40,840
Speaker 6: give a lot of credit for for some of my

1420
01:11:40,960 --> 01:11:41,919
Speaker 6: leadership qualities.

1421
01:11:42,120 --> 01:11:45,040
Speaker 4: But yeah, looking to do the same mirror Ronnie how.

1422
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:47,040
Speaker 2: Would you describe Bubba.

1423
01:11:46,360 --> 01:11:47,519
Speaker 3: Than Trump recording?

1424
01:11:48,280 --> 01:11:48,719
Speaker 2: Uh?

1425
01:11:49,080 --> 01:11:53,000
Speaker 6: Fiery, Uh still thinks he could play the game, keeps

1426
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:58,760
Speaker 6: himself in good shape, very knowledgeable, passionate coach and uh

1427
01:11:59,080 --> 01:12:02,880
Speaker 6: another guy who really holds everybody to to the highest

1428
01:12:02,920 --> 01:12:07,280
Speaker 6: standard possible. And you know it's obvious when you see

1429
01:12:07,400 --> 01:12:09,439
Speaker 6: a lot of his you know, his work on tape

1430
01:12:09,600 --> 01:12:12,000
Speaker 6: and I got, you know, to see that up colas

1431
01:12:12,040 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 6: and personal last year and nothing's changed since I've been

1432
01:12:14,720 --> 01:12:15,200
Speaker 6: here this far.

1433
01:12:15,320 --> 01:12:17,479
Speaker 2: Do you see things in common between him and gyms

1434
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:18,160
Speaker 2: and what they.

1435
01:12:18,040 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 3: Bring to the table.

1436
01:12:19,800 --> 01:12:23,640
Speaker 6: Yeah, I think, you know, just from expectations. You know

1437
01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:26,040
Speaker 6: what they expect out everybody. They want your best and

1438
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:29,000
Speaker 6: they demand your best, and they don't care, you know,

1439
01:12:29,080 --> 01:12:32,160
Speaker 6: whether you know you're the highest paid guy on the

1440
01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 6: team or you know you're undrafted rookie. They're gonna treat

1441
01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:37,519
Speaker 6: all guys the same and they're gonna play the best guys.

1442
01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:40,280
Speaker 9: Were talking about this coachre some more se curated by

1443
01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:44,240
Speaker 9: Shorts's defensive philosophy, even the lea for multiple teams other

1444
01:12:44,280 --> 01:12:46,519
Speaker 9: coordinators not named Shorts. Do you think there's a coach

1445
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:48,760
Speaker 9: you've been a part of that that levels up for

1446
01:12:48,840 --> 01:12:49,479
Speaker 9: compares to.

1447
01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 6: This Greg Williams, I would say he's another one that

1448
01:12:54,240 --> 01:12:57,479
Speaker 6: stands out to me as being a real difference maker

1449
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,439
Speaker 6: as a coach and has the ability to be able

1450
01:13:00,479 --> 01:13:04,599
Speaker 6: to uh change the mindset of a group of men,

1451
01:13:05,000 --> 01:13:09,160
Speaker 6: and that's hard to do all kind of leading, uh

1452
01:13:09,240 --> 01:13:13,240
Speaker 6: and and working towards one common goal, and he possesses

1453
01:13:13,320 --> 01:13:16,400
Speaker 6: that those qualities. And like I said it, I saw

1454
01:13:16,439 --> 01:13:18,599
Speaker 6: the same thing at Jim obviously, you know, with us

1455
01:13:18,600 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 6: winning the championship and having you know, all the success

1456
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:22,639
Speaker 6: we had over the five years I was with him,

1457
01:13:22,880 --> 01:13:24,320
Speaker 6: Greg was head coach.

1458
01:13:25,760 --> 01:13:29,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1459
01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:35,320
Speaker 6: You know, I have not. I talked to him this

1460
01:13:35,439 --> 01:13:38,200
Speaker 6: offseason a little bit. We still text pretty often. I

1461
01:13:38,479 --> 01:13:41,320
Speaker 6: didn't know he was even in the XFL coaching, so

1462
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,880
Speaker 6: it's good to see him on the sidelines. But uh, yeah,

1463
01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:45,760
Speaker 6: I haven't talked about his Brown's days just yet.

1464
01:13:46,600 --> 01:13:49,000
Speaker 2: Stories for your gym stories.

1465
01:13:50,280 --> 01:13:52,959
Speaker 4: Both they're both equally entertaining.

1466
01:13:53,320 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 6: I spent a good bit of time with Greg four

1467
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,160
Speaker 6: years in Saint Louis and then five and gym, so

1468
01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:02,679
Speaker 6: I I have a lot to uh stories to share about.

1469
01:14:02,720 --> 01:14:06,320
Speaker 2: Both have had such a big impact. And you assume

1470
01:14:06,320 --> 01:14:07,080
Speaker 2: there's the qualities you.

1471
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,839
Speaker 4: Know inspired, Yeah, exactly.

1472
01:14:11,120 --> 01:14:13,720
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, like some of the greatest quotes that

1473
01:14:13,800 --> 01:14:19,400
Speaker 6: I uh share and the way I play and really

1474
01:14:19,439 --> 01:14:21,960
Speaker 6: the some of the knowledge I've gained in the in

1475
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:23,639
Speaker 6: the league has been because of those two.

1476
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,080
Speaker 9: Do you have a call right now or.

1477
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:31,400
Speaker 6: Really from Greg? Is just treat every day like an interview.

1478
01:14:31,920 --> 01:14:35,040
Speaker 6: Came in as an undrafted rookie, and that really just

1479
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,840
Speaker 6: stuck with me all throughout my career, you know, never

1480
01:14:37,920 --> 01:14:41,680
Speaker 6: wasting a day, Uh, never wasting a moment, all the

1481
01:14:41,720 --> 01:14:43,880
Speaker 6: precious every day precious.

1482
01:14:44,560 --> 01:14:48,240
Speaker 7: Do you ever stop them undrafted rookie stopping like I'm

1483
01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:49,960
Speaker 7: still I'm still out there.

1484
01:14:50,760 --> 01:14:52,320
Speaker 4: I often get reminded of it.

1485
01:14:52,520 --> 01:14:56,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, but it's hard to I rarely take time and

1486
01:14:57,080 --> 01:15:00,040
Speaker 6: to to reflect because I'm still in the moment. So

1487
01:15:00,479 --> 01:15:04,240
Speaker 6: I don't necessarily want to reflect until I'm actually done

1488
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,599
Speaker 6: because I still feel like I got more than I'm

1489
01:15:06,640 --> 01:15:08,120
Speaker 6: trying to accomplish and chase.

1490
01:15:08,200 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 4: So what did you do as an undrafted rookie to

1491
01:15:12,840 --> 01:15:14,520
Speaker 4: really catch the eyes.

1492
01:15:14,160 --> 01:15:16,200
Speaker 3: Of your coaches?

1493
01:15:16,320 --> 01:15:19,000
Speaker 6: Really just earn earned the respect of the older guys

1494
01:15:19,000 --> 01:15:22,240
Speaker 6: in the locker room, and uh, put good stuff on

1495
01:15:22,320 --> 01:15:26,679
Speaker 6: tape every every day and and really thriving on special teams.

1496
01:15:26,840 --> 01:15:29,000
Speaker 4: That's where I made a name for myself as a rookie.

1497
01:15:29,360 --> 01:15:31,599
Speaker 6: And and like I said, I gained the respect of

1498
01:15:31,960 --> 01:15:33,679
Speaker 6: a lot of my peers in the locker room, especially

1499
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:34,880
Speaker 6: the leaders of the team.

1500
01:15:35,040 --> 01:15:38,559
Speaker 7: Were you overwhelmed at all when your first day Mini

1501
01:15:38,640 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 7: camp or drain camps?

1502
01:15:39,960 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 2: And I got a long helm of time.

1503
01:15:42,479 --> 01:15:45,479
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, there's there's can't look for

1504
01:15:45,520 --> 01:15:46,639
Speaker 6: that light at the end of the tunnel.

1505
01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:49,240
Speaker 4: It just take it one day at a time, do

1506
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:50,160
Speaker 4: whatever's acts.

1507
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:52,320
Speaker 6: If they asked me to, you know what I'm saying,

1508
01:15:52,360 --> 01:15:54,720
Speaker 6: phill up the gatorade. You know I'm saying, cool as

1509
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:56,920
Speaker 6: I'm gonna do it. I need a job coach.

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Speaker 2: mail bag. Thursday edition of the program Listen to Cleveland

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Speaker 2: Browns Daily on a fifty ESPN cleuland.

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Speaker 2: Hiight tyme for little mail bank. Thursday edition of the program,

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01:16:55,160 --> 01:16:57,440
Speaker 2: Hello Gibbe, Hi Bishop.

1526
01:16:57,080 --> 01:17:00,400
Speaker 3: How worre you buddy? Watching Ricky Fowler go to five under?

1527
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 3: That's pretty greats open.

1528
01:17:02,720 --> 01:17:03,719
Speaker 2: That's pretty great.

1529
01:17:04,080 --> 01:17:07,439
Speaker 3: Shoffley's at four under. Scheffler, who was at even when

1530
01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:09,040
Speaker 3: we started the show, not two under?

1531
01:17:09,320 --> 01:17:11,120
Speaker 2: I don't. I mean, I would root for Ricky as

1532
01:17:11,200 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 2: much as I would root for anybody in this field.

1533
01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:14,200
Speaker 3: Truly.

1534
01:17:14,920 --> 01:17:18,599
Speaker 2: He's been through a lot. Great dude, Is this for bird?

1535
01:17:18,920 --> 01:17:21,559
Speaker 3: Going to six like a three footer? Birdie? The last

1536
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:22,840
Speaker 3: three holes?

1537
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:25,439
Speaker 2: Holy cow?

1538
01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:26,960
Speaker 3: How about them apples?

1539
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:29,719
Speaker 2: That's heavy stuff. That's a long. He doesn't. He didn't.

1540
01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:33,400
Speaker 2: That's a new putter, or at least recent. He never

1541
01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:34,639
Speaker 2: played with the putter that long.

1542
01:17:35,960 --> 01:17:37,960
Speaker 3: The putter last night was working well for him.

1543
01:17:37,960 --> 01:17:39,360
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, sliding. Did you give it?

1544
01:17:39,840 --> 01:17:42,640
Speaker 3: Did except that we were saving pars we.

1545
01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:45,559
Speaker 2: Seven four straight?

1546
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 3: No, he's at six six.

1547
01:17:48,920 --> 01:17:53,120
Speaker 2: Wow, that's awesome, all right, good for him. Yeah, he's cool, dude.

1548
01:17:53,320 --> 01:17:56,360
Speaker 2: Did you see he's playing Did you see that that today?

1549
01:17:56,560 --> 01:17:58,920
Speaker 2: There's a kid who dressed up for him as him?

1550
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:01,759
Speaker 2: Is Halloween like two thousand and thirteen and they're playing

1551
01:18:01,800 --> 01:18:02,479
Speaker 2: together today?

1552
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:04,080
Speaker 3: No way, true story?

1553
01:18:04,280 --> 01:18:07,960
Speaker 2: Really Yeah. Remember Ricky would wear like the all and

1554
01:18:08,000 --> 01:18:12,240
Speaker 2: then the flat n flat brim puma hat. Yeah, that

1555
01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:15,400
Speaker 2: was always his look and he had the hair coming

1556
01:18:15,479 --> 01:18:18,880
Speaker 2: out of it. So that's that's really cool, really cool?

1557
01:18:19,080 --> 01:18:21,120
Speaker 3: Was that an that's an ego I'm assuing?

1558
01:18:21,680 --> 01:18:22,360
Speaker 2: Is that hoblin?

1559
01:18:24,439 --> 01:18:28,840
Speaker 3: Yeah? Eg oh that'll help the score.

1560
01:18:28,920 --> 01:18:31,840
Speaker 2: They're scoring, dude, they are totally.

1561
01:18:31,520 --> 01:18:32,519
Speaker 3: Scoring on the course.

1562
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:34,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's back to even. There's minus one now.

1563
01:18:35,240 --> 01:18:39,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, mail bag time, let's do it. You

1564
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,519
Speaker 3: can tweet us a question like the regulars haven't tweeted.

1565
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:44,720
Speaker 3: I think I had him kind of used because we

1566
01:18:44,720 --> 01:18:48,280
Speaker 3: were we were Thursday, Thursday, Thursday last week. We went

1567
01:18:48,320 --> 01:18:50,479
Speaker 3: Friday because of mini camp on Thursday night.

1568
01:18:50,680 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 2: Right, So they're off, So Bobby's so Tomorrowling's asleep at

1569
01:18:54,120 --> 01:18:54,759
Speaker 2: the wheel they're.

1570
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:56,800
Speaker 3: Gonna give us. Yeah, tomorrow, they're gonna be like, oh,

1571
01:18:56,840 --> 01:18:57,759
Speaker 3: here's all my questions.

1572
01:18:57,800 --> 01:18:59,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna like, we expect so much from Bobby.

1573
01:19:00,240 --> 01:19:02,439
Speaker 3: Sorry, sorry about it. That's all right. I've got a

1574
01:19:02,479 --> 01:19:05,360
Speaker 3: lot left over from last week, all right. Shane Trevor

1575
01:19:05,479 --> 01:19:08,080
Speaker 3: tweets at the show as you can do Ed Brown's

1576
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,720
Speaker 3: underscore Daily. If the NFL were to expand and you

1577
01:19:11,760 --> 01:19:14,640
Speaker 3: get to choose the city, mascot, and color scheme of

1578
01:19:14,680 --> 01:19:17,920
Speaker 3: the new team or teams, what would you choose. We

1579
01:19:17,960 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 3: talked about cities yesterday.

1580
01:19:19,600 --> 01:19:20,759
Speaker 2: San Diego Chargers.

1581
01:19:22,040 --> 01:19:22,679
Speaker 3: I like it.

1582
01:19:23,520 --> 01:19:27,639
Speaker 2: The only city, honestly, the only city that makes sense

1583
01:19:27,640 --> 01:19:33,600
Speaker 2: that doesn't have one that would have the financial aptitude

1584
01:19:33,640 --> 01:19:35,679
Speaker 2: to be able to handle it, and the scope is Toronto.

1585
01:19:36,120 --> 01:19:38,280
Speaker 2: There's no place else in North America that doesn't have

1586
01:19:38,320 --> 01:19:41,960
Speaker 2: a team that needs either another run at it or

1587
01:19:42,400 --> 01:19:44,720
Speaker 2: is interested in another run at it. Obviously loved at

1588
01:19:44,720 --> 01:19:47,160
Speaker 2: the Chargers back in San Diego. You don't need two

1589
01:19:47,200 --> 01:19:49,320
Speaker 2: teams in Los Angeles, but Cronky wanted the rent and

1590
01:19:49,320 --> 01:19:53,120
Speaker 2: that's why it happened. Toronto not having a team, they're

1591
01:19:53,200 --> 01:19:55,840
Speaker 2: kind of it. Other than that, the NFL's kind of

1592
01:19:55,840 --> 01:19:57,599
Speaker 2: crushed it truly.

1593
01:19:57,920 --> 01:20:02,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, you don't need to be in the South, go

1594
01:20:02,479 --> 01:20:04,799
Speaker 3: to Birmingham, you don't need to be in country.

1595
01:20:06,960 --> 01:20:09,640
Speaker 2: There's no cities down there that are big enough or

1596
01:20:09,640 --> 01:20:12,519
Speaker 2: have the corporate infrastructure. Saint Louis has had it and

1597
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 2: lost it twice, you know, so San Diego. But I

1598
01:20:19,120 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 2: don't think San Diego cares that they don't have a

1599
01:20:20,760 --> 01:20:21,280
Speaker 2: team much.

1600
01:20:21,479 --> 01:20:23,200
Speaker 3: Doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like it.

1601
01:20:23,240 --> 01:20:25,479
Speaker 2: I mean, there's there's no need to have one. I mean,

1602
01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:27,960
Speaker 2: it's just Toronto. That's it. And I don't know, like

1603
01:20:28,040 --> 01:20:29,920
Speaker 2: will that be the next one if somebody can't get

1604
01:20:29,920 --> 01:20:32,599
Speaker 2: a stadium done where they try to use Toronto as

1605
01:20:32,600 --> 01:20:35,360
Speaker 2: the threat because forever they used La and they used Vegas,

1606
01:20:36,160 --> 01:20:40,000
Speaker 2: they're both filled up. So yeah, I mean, as for

1607
01:20:40,040 --> 01:20:41,840
Speaker 2: the nickname, I think you would just pay whatever is

1608
01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,679
Speaker 2: possible to become the Toronto Argonauts, which is the CFL team,

1609
01:20:44,680 --> 01:20:48,200
Speaker 2: and you just do that. Yes, Toronto's got the money,

1610
01:20:48,200 --> 01:20:50,400
Speaker 2: they've got, they would have everything. But you're not gonna

1611
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:54,240
Speaker 2: see NFL expansion. There's no there's no it's they're locked in,

1612
01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:55,920
Speaker 2: all right.

1613
01:20:56,000 --> 01:21:00,360
Speaker 3: Going back a little bit, Uh, what is this week's

1614
01:21:00,479 --> 01:21:03,760
Speaker 3: drink of choice from James the Ringer. It's Father's Day

1615
01:21:03,800 --> 01:21:08,880
Speaker 3: weekend coming up, he always asks.

1616
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,800
Speaker 2: So last week, last week, I think I did the transfusion, yes,

1617
01:21:13,080 --> 01:21:14,679
Speaker 2: which he was, or maybe that was two weeks ago

1618
01:21:14,800 --> 01:21:17,679
Speaker 2: oorial week, I did the transfusion, which was I made

1619
01:21:17,680 --> 01:21:20,760
Speaker 2: one of those you know what I made? I mean,

1620
01:21:20,800 --> 01:21:22,280
Speaker 2: this won't be what I will drink, but what I

1621
01:21:22,360 --> 01:21:26,919
Speaker 2: made for the blonde she was craving a pina colada.

1622
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:33,599
Speaker 2: So I took a cup of pineapple, a frozen banana,

1623
01:21:34,640 --> 01:21:40,280
Speaker 2: a teaspoon, I have teaspoon of vanilla, and what am

1624
01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:44,519
Speaker 2: I missing in there? Oh, coconut milk and like a

1625
01:21:44,560 --> 01:21:48,120
Speaker 2: tablespoon of honey. And then I put some diplomatic o

1626
01:21:48,240 --> 01:21:51,080
Speaker 2: rum in it and blended it delicious, Really a little

1627
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 2: pina colata taste to you, all right, So that would

1628
01:21:53,840 --> 01:21:56,680
Speaker 2: be a win. Father's Days a bourbon day usually for me,

1629
01:21:57,680 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 2: So I'll probably go that way. Well, it'll probably to

1630
01:22:00,240 --> 01:22:02,400
Speaker 2: be some sort of a I had a bulled deer

1631
01:22:02,400 --> 01:22:07,000
Speaker 2: the other day, which is COMPARI and bourbon on the rocks.

1632
01:22:07,080 --> 01:22:08,960
Speaker 2: That was pretty good as kind of a mix up

1633
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:10,240
Speaker 2: something like that.

1634
01:22:10,280 --> 01:22:13,240
Speaker 3: Probably what is your what was the vitamin water one

1635
01:22:13,280 --> 01:22:16,680
Speaker 3: that yet it's that's the it's a little chili, it's not.

1636
01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's that type of weather yet

1637
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:19,360
Speaker 3: for it.

1638
01:22:19,560 --> 01:22:21,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Uncle Stan's a home run.

1639
01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:22,680
Speaker 3: I was trying to explain this last night.

1640
01:22:22,760 --> 01:22:28,240
Speaker 2: The Uncle Stan is three ounces of silver tequila, like

1641
01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:32,920
Speaker 2: like a in a yetti right with ice, and then

1642
01:22:32,960 --> 01:22:35,080
Speaker 2: you take lemonade vitamin water and pour it on top.

1643
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,600
Speaker 3: But that's your Uncle Stan keeps you hydrated.

1644
01:22:37,680 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it solves all of the problems. The other one

1645
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,760
Speaker 2: that's really good if you don't like the taste of

1646
01:22:41,840 --> 01:22:46,000
Speaker 2: lemonade vitamin water is ranch water, which is tequila and

1647
01:22:46,160 --> 01:22:48,680
Speaker 2: like top O Chico is what they use. But you

1648
01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,000
Speaker 2: could also use like sand pillogreno or something like that

1649
01:22:51,280 --> 01:22:54,519
Speaker 2: with like a heavy heavy lime squeeze. That's also really

1650
01:22:54,560 --> 01:22:55,400
Speaker 2: good this time of year.

1651
01:22:56,439 --> 01:23:03,400
Speaker 3: Okay, let's see going through stuff. I'm going through some

1652
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:04,760
Speaker 3: Bobby questions left over.

1653
01:23:05,000 --> 01:23:07,759
Speaker 2: Bobby's got some new ones. He's back, he's engaged.

1654
01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,720
Speaker 3: What is your favorite drinking game?

1655
01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,840
Speaker 2: We please play a game in college called moose Horn.

1656
01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:16,360
Speaker 3: I deslutely want to know this.

1657
01:23:16,479 --> 01:23:18,280
Speaker 2: You take a I don't even know if I'm gonna

1658
01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,559
Speaker 2: remember the rules of this but it is an empty

1659
01:23:20,640 --> 01:23:25,400
Speaker 2: ice tray from a refrigerator. If the quarter lands on

1660
01:23:25,479 --> 01:23:29,479
Speaker 2: the left, it's give one two three four five six.

1661
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,760
Speaker 2: If it's on the right, it's take one two three

1662
01:23:32,760 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 2: four five six. At the back of the of the

1663
01:23:36,560 --> 01:23:40,200
Speaker 2: ice tray is a is a cup. If you land

1664
01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,800
Speaker 2: it in that. If the quarter lands in that, then

1665
01:23:42,840 --> 01:23:43,760
Speaker 2: it's a waterfall.

1666
01:23:45,760 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 3: I've been burned by the waterfall.

1667
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:49,200
Speaker 2: Kills everybody, of course it does.

1668
01:23:49,400 --> 01:23:52,759
Speaker 3: It's not I think I think it's fun. It's not fun.

1669
01:23:52,920 --> 01:23:56,439
Speaker 2: Actually, if it lands in the last one, you have

1670
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,800
Speaker 2: to do something with like moosehorn where you do the

1671
01:23:58,840 --> 01:24:01,519
Speaker 2: moose horn sign like on your head, and then the

1672
01:24:01,640 --> 01:24:05,240
Speaker 2: last one to get the moose warns up that person

1673
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:09,360
Speaker 2: is the end of the waterfall. Oh boy, yeah, I

1674
01:24:09,400 --> 01:24:11,280
Speaker 2: think that's the way it worked. You know, there was

1675
01:24:11,320 --> 01:24:13,200
Speaker 2: something with like moose I don't remember.

1676
01:24:13,280 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 3: It's a good way. I'm a man, I'm for you.

1677
01:24:16,520 --> 01:24:18,240
Speaker 2: I don't do those things anymore, but that's that was

1678
01:24:18,240 --> 01:24:19,080
Speaker 2: the way that that worked.

1679
01:24:19,320 --> 01:24:21,080
Speaker 3: Favorite non craft beer.

1680
01:24:22,600 --> 01:24:27,120
Speaker 2: Yellow Jacket kidding me, it's my favorite beer period. The

1681
01:24:27,160 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 2: two beer that the two beers I've had, I like

1682
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,000
Speaker 2: Montucky has one, which is one to my the they

1683
01:24:33,000 --> 01:24:34,519
Speaker 2: have a beer that you can get every once a

1684
01:24:34,520 --> 01:24:36,280
Speaker 2: while around here. Really cool branding. They did a good

1685
01:24:36,360 --> 01:24:40,439
Speaker 2: job representing the homeland. But cors Golden and Medello, those

1686
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,360
Speaker 2: are the two that I have. By the way, Medello

1687
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:46,120
Speaker 2: passed bud Light this week. Yes, can you believe that

1688
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:48,919
Speaker 2: from the standpoint that I mean, our whole life Corona's

1689
01:24:48,920 --> 01:24:51,840
Speaker 2: been in this country has like the staple Corona, Lime

1690
01:24:52,320 --> 01:24:57,160
Speaker 2: and Medelo pass them let alone, doesn't is it?

1691
01:24:57,280 --> 01:24:59,160
Speaker 3: Modelo distributed by Anheuser Bush.

1692
01:24:59,200 --> 01:25:01,280
Speaker 2: I think they're all loone by the by in BEV,

1693
01:25:01,320 --> 01:25:04,720
Speaker 2: which is I want to say it's German, it's one

1694
01:25:04,720 --> 01:25:06,799
Speaker 2: of them, but then it's also the guys from Brazil

1695
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:09,360
Speaker 2: on part of it too. Three G Capital guys like

1696
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:10,160
Speaker 2: those guys on it.

1697
01:25:10,400 --> 01:25:12,640
Speaker 3: Yeah. For all those people thinking you're getting back at

1698
01:25:12,640 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 3: bud Light, yep, they'll take your money out of your

1699
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:17,240
Speaker 3: other beers.

1700
01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:18,040
Speaker 2: Uh.

1701
01:25:18,400 --> 01:25:20,280
Speaker 3: Top five cheese.

1702
01:25:22,520 --> 01:25:25,240
Speaker 2: I don't I mean, Bobby, I'm not a cheese connoisseur.

1703
01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:30,960
Speaker 2: I like cheddar cheese. I like extra sharp cheddar cheese.

1704
01:25:31,000 --> 01:25:33,640
Speaker 3: I love a crumbled blue I like to put that

1705
01:25:33,680 --> 01:25:36,360
Speaker 3: on Ali burger and melt ok a little bit, throw

1706
01:25:36,400 --> 01:25:37,640
Speaker 3: a couple of strips of bacon on it.

1707
01:25:37,720 --> 01:25:39,880
Speaker 2: That's a that's an acquired taste, though, because as a kid,

1708
01:25:39,920 --> 01:25:41,960
Speaker 2: there's no way you like blue cheese. No, that was

1709
01:25:41,960 --> 01:25:44,160
Speaker 2: something that happened later in life where you like blue.

1710
01:25:44,240 --> 01:25:45,760
Speaker 2: I didn't. I couldn't stand it as a kid.

1711
01:25:46,160 --> 01:25:50,120
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't like Swiss. I'll eat Swiss on one

1712
01:25:50,200 --> 01:25:51,320
Speaker 3: or two things. Maybe.

1713
01:25:51,439 --> 01:25:53,439
Speaker 2: I think it's pretty flat. A lot of people around

1714
01:25:53,439 --> 01:25:55,280
Speaker 2: here like it. I think I think it's pretty flat

1715
01:25:55,320 --> 01:25:56,120
Speaker 2: from a cheese taste.

1716
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:59,000
Speaker 3: And I'll be honest, mozzarella doesn't do anything for me

1717
01:25:59,160 --> 01:26:01,120
Speaker 3: other than on a peace Yeah.

1718
01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:05,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, A nice parmisano freshly shaved is pretty good. Yep,

1719
01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: on about anything. I like a pub cheese. I like

1720
01:26:09,880 --> 01:26:12,200
Speaker 2: all the fake cheeses, honestly. Like, if you have cheese

1721
01:26:12,200 --> 01:26:14,360
Speaker 2: and a canister, I'm in.

1722
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:15,160
Speaker 3: It's not wrong.

1723
01:26:15,280 --> 01:26:19,839
Speaker 2: Squeeze cheese, pub cheese cheese whiz all that's velveeta fine

1724
01:26:19,880 --> 01:26:22,280
Speaker 2: fake cheeses. I'm a big fake cheese guy.

1725
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,479
Speaker 3: Bobby wants to know best is a girl off air.

1726
01:26:26,360 --> 01:26:28,320
Speaker 2: Story not save for air.

1727
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:30,160
Speaker 3: I was gonna say, I don't.

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01:26:30,400 --> 01:26:32,559
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything that he said off air

1729
01:26:32,600 --> 01:26:34,679
Speaker 2: that I would feel comfortable sharing on air, and keeping

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01:26:34,720 --> 01:26:35,120
Speaker 2: my job.

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01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, I don't know. Oh, worst sports injury you've

1732
01:26:43,600 --> 01:26:44,400
Speaker 3: ever had?

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01:26:45,560 --> 01:26:51,760
Speaker 2: Luckily enough, Well, I was gonna say luckily enough, I've

1734
01:26:51,800 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: never been seriously injured. I was partially paralyzed for about

1735
01:26:54,880 --> 01:26:57,879
Speaker 2: twelve hours in high school my sophomore year in football

1736
01:26:58,439 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 2: where I was made a head was down, face down,

1737
01:27:02,520 --> 01:27:07,280
Speaker 2: laying flat. Couldn't feel neck down, No way. Yeah, stretchered off,

1738
01:27:07,800 --> 01:27:13,400
Speaker 2: emergency room, saw it off my everything, sought off, the helmet, everything.

1739
01:27:14,760 --> 01:27:18,080
Speaker 2: Probably within an hour of the injury, I would I

1740
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:20,840
Speaker 2: started to get tingling and stuff. But in the moment

1741
01:27:20,880 --> 01:27:24,840
Speaker 2: it was as terrifying as can be, and it was.

1742
01:27:24,880 --> 01:27:28,720
Speaker 2: It ended up being. Uh, a spinal shock is what

1743
01:27:28,840 --> 01:27:32,240
Speaker 2: I had. And I played the next week in a

1744
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:33,599
Speaker 2: playoff game with a neck brace.

1745
01:27:36,720 --> 01:27:41,480
Speaker 3: Well why not thirty years idio idiots, it was acceptable?

1746
01:27:41,560 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 2: Idiots. Well I just put him in a neck brace

1747
01:27:45,400 --> 01:27:47,840
Speaker 2: that got Actually, I should find the picture of me

1748
01:27:47,920 --> 01:27:51,599
Speaker 2: in this giant neck brace, like pitching the ball. Idiots.

1749
01:27:51,880 --> 01:27:55,200
Speaker 3: So we have a back issue, but let's not support

1750
01:27:55,240 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 3: the back, let's support the neck. Jeesu.

1751
01:27:59,240 --> 01:28:01,639
Speaker 2: Well, it was whip that led to spinal shock, I think,

1752
01:28:01,680 --> 01:28:03,960
Speaker 2: is what it was. But it was all they just

1753
01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:05,880
Speaker 2: want to me like this. I can't believe people had

1754
01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:10,840
Speaker 2: to be played. It's just stupid, ridiculous. I've got a

1755
01:28:10,880 --> 01:28:14,160
Speaker 2: picture somewhere of me like making a like out of

1756
01:28:14,200 --> 01:28:17,400
Speaker 2: the shotgun, making like a toss pitch in a giant

1757
01:28:17,439 --> 01:28:17,920
Speaker 2: neck brace.

1758
01:28:19,360 --> 01:28:22,679
Speaker 3: Oh my god, that's crazy.

1759
01:28:22,920 --> 01:28:23,760
Speaker 2: Yeah that's right.

1760
01:28:24,720 --> 01:28:26,920
Speaker 3: Why did Why did your parents not say anything?

1761
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:30,760
Speaker 2: I don't know. They weren't the type to like, they

1762
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:36,920
Speaker 2: weren't the type to metal. Oh yeah, he's safe to play.

1763
01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:41,800
Speaker 2: They must know, must know to be fair. I didn't

1764
01:28:41,800 --> 01:28:44,679
Speaker 2: play defense that week. It did play.

1765
01:28:44,640 --> 01:28:51,520
Speaker 3: Quarterback, so they just needed the star power. Well done. Yeah,

1766
01:28:51,680 --> 01:28:55,840
Speaker 3: that's today's and this week's episode of the mail Bag,

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01:28:56,040 --> 01:28:58,760
Speaker 3: presented by Vivid seats.

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01:28:58,920 --> 01:29:01,720
Speaker 2: Dale Davidson Cocky Cleveland, our buddy says Mexico City would

1769
01:29:01,760 --> 01:29:03,120
Speaker 2: be an intriguing NFL market.

1770
01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:07,320
Speaker 3: Eh not. Many people want to go play Mexico if

1771
01:29:07,320 --> 01:29:09,120
Speaker 3: you asked many NFL teams.

1772
01:29:09,120 --> 01:29:10,800
Speaker 2: Well no, not only that, you got to live there,

1773
01:29:12,360 --> 01:29:14,960
Speaker 2: So that's that's not going to work either. Now you

1774
01:29:15,040 --> 01:29:17,960
Speaker 2: want to put one in Port of Iarta, well then

1775
01:29:17,960 --> 01:29:20,639
Speaker 2: you got a shot. You got a shot. I really

1776
01:29:20,680 --> 01:29:23,120
Speaker 2: think it's only Toronto, I really do. I think it's

1777
01:29:23,120 --> 01:29:24,920
Speaker 2: the only city in North America that doesn't have a

1778
01:29:24,960 --> 01:29:27,960
Speaker 2: team that could handle it and get the NFL what

1779
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,320
Speaker 2: it needs out of it. I really do.

1780
01:29:29,439 --> 01:29:31,080
Speaker 3: You can't put another team in Florida.

1781
01:29:31,240 --> 01:29:33,920
Speaker 2: No, no, no, it's been done all right, so much

1782
01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 2: more to come you. Let's seen Cleveland bron Zally on

1783
01:29:35,439 --> 01:29:36,880
Speaker 2: a fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:47,559
Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Back coming

1785
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Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: Ricky Fowler six under Xanders Chaffle five under Scotti Scheffler

1787
01:30:01,960 --> 01:30:04,320
Speaker 2: making a little bit of a move at two, but

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01:30:04,439 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 2: nice little leaderboard. All of the big boys or the

1789
01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,479
Speaker 2: rest the remaining big boys te off a little bit later.

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01:30:09,400 --> 01:30:14,559
Speaker 3: This, yeah, it should be starting that next group. Well,

1791
01:30:14,680 --> 01:30:16,240
Speaker 3: I don't know, because I.

1792
01:30:16,280 --> 01:30:18,519
Speaker 2: Mean I keep looking at this. I've been I've spent

1793
01:30:18,640 --> 01:30:21,840
Speaker 2: quite a bit of time in my life in southern California.

1794
01:30:22,200 --> 01:30:25,720
Speaker 2: I don't recall ever seeing it be this gray, this long. No,

1795
01:30:26,280 --> 01:30:27,240
Speaker 2: this is Beverly Hills.

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01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,760
Speaker 3: No, and I'm looking at the wil like the whole

1797
01:30:29,840 --> 01:30:31,720
Speaker 3: numbers on the right where it says is that through

1798
01:30:31,800 --> 01:30:35,439
Speaker 3: thirteen holes are on a whole thirteen True, that many

1799
01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:40,120
Speaker 3: holes I couldn't tell because of the multi tea box starts.

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01:30:40,360 --> 01:30:43,560
Speaker 3: I'm like, okay, so where are people here? Yeah, but

1801
01:30:43,680 --> 01:30:46,760
Speaker 3: you're right, it is crazy how overcast it is. Yeah,

1802
01:30:47,400 --> 01:30:48,000
Speaker 3: pretty wild.

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Speaker 2: Coming up tomorrow on the program, exclusive one on one interviews,

1804
01:30:52,680 --> 01:30:54,880
Speaker 2: you'll hear from defensive line coach Ben Bloom, tight end

1805
01:30:54,920 --> 01:30:59,720
Speaker 2: coach TC McCartney, mj Emerson, Isaiah Thomas, Harrison Bryant, among

1806
01:31:01,120 --> 01:31:02,840
Speaker 2: You have that to look forward to tomorrow, which is

1807
01:31:03,040 --> 01:31:05,680
Speaker 2: very very nice. You also have the Next Level which

1808
01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:08,320
Speaker 2: is coming up next. Thank you so much for listening, everybody,

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Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily, eight fifty ESPN Cleveland.

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Speaker 1: You've been listening to Cleveland Browns Daily, a production of

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