WEBVTT - What More Can You Take? 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:03.080 Okay, welcome to another episode of The Gangster Chronicles. This 0:00:03.320 --> 0:00:05.680 episode five. My name is Alex Alonso, and to my 0:00:05.800 --> 0:00:09.640 right is right, and to his right James McDonald. Man, 0:00:09.640 --> 0:00:11.600 how you guys doing today? Man, I'm good with my brother. 0:00:11.640 --> 0:00:15.280 How you doing? Man? Just uh, seems like a NonStop man, 0:00:15.320 --> 0:00:19.639 NonStop working man. So how was your week? I'm reggy 0:00:19.720 --> 0:00:22.959 you had a big week. I had a big No week, 0:00:23.920 --> 0:00:27.840 didn't happen. Everything's good with you. I'm good today. Okay, 0:00:27.880 --> 0:00:29.600 I guess we ain't gonna go into that right now. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:33.480 Maybe another episode, how about you, James? Oh, Man, mine 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:38.800 was the grand baby. You know, I'm raising my my daughters. Sean. 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:42.040 I've been having me four years, so a little over 0:00:42.080 --> 0:00:45.199 a year. Every weekend is me and him. That's a 0:00:45.240 --> 0:00:48.680 beautiful thing. Yeah, every weekend. But last week, man, you 0:00:48.720 --> 0:00:51.480 wore this incredible T shirt, not even a T shirt, 0:00:51.560 --> 0:00:54.240 was a button down shirt, right, just a T shirt. 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:55.680 And on the back of the T shirt you had 0:00:55.720 --> 0:00:58.600 some rest in pieces. Uh, some of the homies that 0:00:58.720 --> 0:01:02.200 were closely associated with you and death Row records. Yeah, 0:01:02.240 --> 0:01:04.640 well everybody on the back of the T shirt was 0:01:04.720 --> 0:01:10.040 close to me. Um, I've knowing these guys for years 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:14.800 and you know they lost their lives. Uh dinner with 0:01:14.880 --> 0:01:17.480 the the Ends and out of death Row and all 0:01:17.520 --> 0:01:21.040 the bs that's going on. So I was just sitting 0:01:21.080 --> 0:01:25.280 back thinking of actually doing a T shirt for our podcast, 0:01:26.000 --> 0:01:31.640 and the guy that did it put um documentary on 0:01:31.680 --> 0:01:34.960 the front instead of against the chronicles. So it turned 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:39.240 in to be for for for the documentary. But my 0:01:39.319 --> 0:01:41.960 whole thing was how do I get these guys out 0:01:42.000 --> 0:01:45.720 here and so people don't forget them and forget what 0:01:45.920 --> 0:01:49.720 everybody went through. So instead of just being selfish and 0:01:49.760 --> 0:01:52.480 putting my brother on the T shirt and saying his 0:01:53.000 --> 0:01:55.920 Alta mcdonaldy lost his life, you know, through death Row, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.560 I sent him to get all of them. I had 0:01:58.600 --> 0:02:02.720 passionate love for all of these guys, so I had 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:06.840 it hooked up. I had more faces to put on there. 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:09.720 But it was just like a promo, something to see 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.240 how to turn out and how everybody would like it. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.600 And everybody was. They loving it. They want to order 0:02:15.680 --> 0:02:19.080 T shirts. Everybody said that was that was a good look, 0:02:19.560 --> 0:02:22.679 and I appreciated that. So now I have people want 0:02:22.760 --> 0:02:28.160 to buy the T shirt. I'm telling everybody that there's 0:02:28.280 --> 0:02:30.960 no way where I can sell that T shirt and 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:33.680 to benefit off of that. To me, it is like 0:02:33.760 --> 0:02:35.799 benefit of from my brother. Well, you can sell the 0:02:35.880 --> 0:02:38.400 shirt and then give the proceeds to an important cause. Well, 0:02:39.800 --> 0:02:44.240 what I did was hook my one of my homeboys. 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:52.440 This is in Detroit, UH, Chicago, UH, New York, all 0:02:52.480 --> 0:02:56.160 over the place. They all these guys is hitting me up, 0:02:56.480 --> 0:02:58.239 and he got linked to all of them. So all 0:02:58.240 --> 0:03:01.600 of these guys and these girls are pretty much put 0:03:01.639 --> 0:03:05.360 centing in their sizes for the shirt. And I hooked 0:03:05.440 --> 0:03:07.800 him up directly with the guy that's doing the shirt. 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:10.239 So I'm not getting the dime out of it. I 0:03:10.280 --> 0:03:12.600 don't want to dime out of it. So everybody, I 0:03:12.680 --> 0:03:16.280 have that shirt, and everybody you you never forget these guys. 0:03:16.680 --> 0:03:19.520 You'll never forget them. Now, for those let me go, 0:03:20.280 --> 0:03:23.120 because if you know anything about James and history, you'll 0:03:23.160 --> 0:03:27.480 ever listened to are step point on Firth. You know 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:29.080 he's gonna be a mad brother in a couple of 0:03:29.120 --> 0:03:30.799 years with somebody. Make a whole bunch of money off 0:03:31.600 --> 0:03:39.120 some man. You do it. You got what you're writing, 0:03:39.120 --> 0:03:42.680 and he'll fight is uh and getting money to lawyer. 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:45.440 You do it. I know that. Well, for those who 0:03:45.480 --> 0:03:47.680 want to check out the shirt. We got pictures posted 0:03:47.720 --> 0:03:51.839 on the Gangster Chronicles Instagram page, and we got close ups, 0:03:52.000 --> 0:03:53.640 and let me just describe the shirt a little bit. 0:03:53.800 --> 0:03:56.680 There's five people. Even though there's more than five people 0:03:56.680 --> 0:03:59.119 that lost their lives, you put five on the back 0:03:59.160 --> 0:04:02.160 of the shirt. And there are pictures of all five 0:04:02.200 --> 0:04:04.200 of those on the Instagram page. And let's just talk 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:07.440 about those five people. Let's start off with a person 0:04:07.560 --> 0:04:14.040 number one, Wardale Pucci Fuss died July three. Pucci was remembered, 0:04:14.640 --> 0:04:18.159 you know, part of the UH security on death Road. 0:04:19.000 --> 0:04:22.159 Me and him was cool. Uh, we never really hung 0:04:22.160 --> 0:04:25.960 out and this and that. But his his his whole 0:04:25.960 --> 0:04:29.240 thing was the same as everybody else. He was killed 0:04:31.040 --> 0:04:34.760 over the same thing. So everybody on that shirt was 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:37.680 killed basically for the same purpose. And I can I'm 0:04:37.680 --> 0:04:42.640 gonna try to elaborate on that in a minute. But um, 0:04:42.839 --> 0:04:47.520 Reggie knew more Pucci than I did. But I chose 0:04:47.560 --> 0:04:52.480 to put him on there because Pucci and I didn't 0:04:52.520 --> 0:04:54.960 see eye to eye. But that don't mean just because 0:04:54.960 --> 0:04:58.479 he'd gone, I just erasing. So I put him on 0:04:58.520 --> 0:05:01.440 there so people wouldn't think that I was being selfish 0:05:01.600 --> 0:05:06.320 or being a biggest uh hating. So I put him 0:05:06.320 --> 0:05:08.800 on there so they can see that because a lot 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:11.640 of people out there still like Pucci, love Pucci, so 0:05:11.680 --> 0:05:14.080 I put him. I put him on there too. The 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:18.359 next shirt is gonna have eight. The next shirt is 0:05:18.360 --> 0:05:22.359 gonna have chin and And I just want people to 0:05:22.440 --> 0:05:27.200 see that this right here, everything that happened to death Row, 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:31.360 it didn't only affect me, It affected everybody. All these 0:05:31.360 --> 0:05:36.920 guys got mama kids, grandmama's uncle's affected everybody. So just 0:05:37.040 --> 0:05:41.040 wearing that shirt, it lets whomever that don't even know 0:05:41.160 --> 0:05:44.240 you see how these guys died and when they died. 0:05:44.520 --> 0:05:46.520 And that's what the shirt tell you. You don't have 0:05:46.600 --> 0:05:49.760 to ask who is Bunchy, who was hand off? The 0:05:49.839 --> 0:05:56.479 shirt tells itself. You spoke about Fusts is what faults. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:06:00.720 Some people know him Darnielle Bolton, but you and he's 0:06:00.760 --> 0:06:04.880 better known. And and I'm saying, Reggie is just this 0:06:05.000 --> 0:06:07.279 Reggie opinion. And Reggie just saying that no one else 0:06:07.320 --> 0:06:10.760 here is that that he's responsible for the murder of 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.440 Biggie Small. How sure? How how sure do you feel 0:06:13.480 --> 0:06:16.000 about that? Well? None of us sure, But that's what 0:06:16.080 --> 0:06:19.480 I believe from the investigation that was done by l 0:06:19.520 --> 0:06:23.799 APD Task Force with along with the FBI, the d 0:06:23.839 --> 0:06:26.120 A and all of that that you can find the 0:06:26.720 --> 0:06:29.680 whole detail and then the book murder route then by 0:06:29.960 --> 0:06:35.200 Gray Cating's are you over that he was involved in 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:38.640 the biggiest killing? Yes? Was he the driver of the 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:42.000 Green s S. He was the only occupant of the vehicle, 0:06:43.720 --> 0:06:46.280 And I guess a lot of people might have some 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:48.479 some negative to say about him if that's true. Well, 0:06:48.640 --> 0:06:50.160 you have the people out there, they want to believe 0:06:50.200 --> 0:06:52.240 the Derby cops, the Rampart cops and all of that 0:06:52.240 --> 0:06:53.760 that has something to do with it, with the David 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:55.919 mc and all of that. But that's this old white 0:06:55.960 --> 0:06:59.600 man that had nothing to do with the Tupac or 0:06:59.640 --> 0:07:01.800 the Biggie case that's pushing that narrative. Well, I think 0:07:01.880 --> 0:07:04.440 David Mack also owned the exact same car and maybe 0:07:04.440 --> 0:07:06.520 that's why a lot of people linked his name to 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:08.880 the killing the Biggie. So, well, now we're gonna say 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:11.200 a cop, it's gonna be stupid enough to drive by 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:15.360 assassination on someone in his own vehicle. Okay, all right, Yeah, 0:07:15.840 --> 0:07:18.560 I think we have heard of cops dirty cops involved 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:25.680 in shooting personal vehicle whatever was him, But he robbed man. 0:07:25.720 --> 0:07:28.880 He wasn't in his own personal on that incident. He 0:07:29.160 --> 0:07:32.320 rented a vehicle and and and he's another car. Yeah, 0:07:32.360 --> 0:07:34.880 but listen, just um, David mc walked into the Bank 0:07:34.880 --> 0:07:38.360 of America on jeffersonim and Clintock and rob seven hundred 0:07:38.360 --> 0:07:41.120 thousand dollars that has never recovered as an l ap 0:07:41.280 --> 0:07:45.760 D officer. That's crazy. I'm not saying nothing about dirty cops. 0:07:46.120 --> 0:07:47.920 I'm not saying he wasn't dirty. I'm just saying he 0:07:48.680 --> 0:07:52.040 what was his motive to have an assassination on small 0:07:52.280 --> 0:07:54.600 I think that, Um, there is a lot, a lot 0:07:54.640 --> 0:07:58.440 of evidence that probably points more to Mr Wardell, But 0:07:58.480 --> 0:08:01.200 I don't know for sure. You know, though, I'm not 0:08:01.920 --> 0:08:09.640 sure like you are. I'm hey, he's a killer. You know. 0:08:09.720 --> 0:08:12.760 I wouldn't put it past Pucci. I'm in the man gone. 0:08:12.920 --> 0:08:16.240 I'm not gonna sit there and put more smut on 0:08:16.320 --> 0:08:20.560 him than he already got. Uh. The guy was it 0:08:20.640 --> 0:08:24.960 was it was a hitter and and and he he 0:08:25.080 --> 0:08:29.640 did that kind of well, I mean, I wouldn't put 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:31.760 it past you. Well, you're a little hesitant. I'm putting 0:08:31.800 --> 0:08:33.480 him on the on the shirt, because you've had at 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:35.240 least a dozen people you could have put on there. 0:08:35.559 --> 0:08:38.600 But I wanted the first shirt to say that I 0:08:38.640 --> 0:08:42.960 wasn't okay Pucci and I was gonna put George on 0:08:42.960 --> 0:08:46.680 one and behind bars, but I said, now that ain't 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:49.080 a good look. But yeah, I was kind of like 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.360 hesitant to do it, but then I said, this is me, 0:08:52.600 --> 0:08:54.720 this is what I want people to see. So I 0:08:54.760 --> 0:08:57.560 put him on there. I didn't it didn't matter. So 0:08:58.120 --> 0:09:00.840 everybody see it and it's like, wow, you put Pucci 0:09:00.920 --> 0:09:02.840 up there, and then Pucci have something to do with 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:06.800 your brother. I was corrected by Reggie that he wouldn't 0:09:06.800 --> 0:09:09.600 even there at the time. He was not getting along 0:09:09.640 --> 0:09:12.959 with with George at the time, so that that pretty 0:09:13.040 --> 0:09:15.320 much shield to deal for me to put him on there. 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:19.920 So yeah, and we'll go into the next person where 0:09:19.920 --> 0:09:21.920 Pucci was in the car when he got shot up 0:09:21.960 --> 0:09:25.040 with Chen. Well, go ahead, and he's gonna tell us 0:09:25.040 --> 0:09:27.880 a little bit about Chien. William Chinn Walker. He was 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.920 killed April seven, April four, two thousand. He was thirty 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:34.680 seven years old. James, Yeah, Chim was Chim was my 0:09:34.960 --> 0:09:40.000 cousin's my first cousin's boyfriend. Uh, I met him a 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:43.400 couple of times wherever that wouldn't even been around him. 0:09:43.559 --> 0:09:47.520 My cousin had some no functions at the house that 0:09:47.600 --> 0:09:51.040 I would go to and he would be there. Uh, 0:09:51.600 --> 0:09:55.560 real cool guy, real cool guy. Wasn't you know, a 0:09:55.640 --> 0:09:58.960 loud person, you know, be real cool. And from the 0:09:59.000 --> 0:10:02.360 times we met, he was always like, what you need, 0:10:02.400 --> 0:10:04.120 what you need, I got you, I got it, No, 0:10:04.360 --> 0:10:07.560 y'all in my house, I got this. So he was 0:10:07.600 --> 0:10:11.120 always cool. So I wanted to make sure he was 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:15.199 on there. Uh. My people looked at it and just like, 0:10:15.800 --> 0:10:19.560 y'all still remembering him. Yeah, I remember all of these 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:24.760 guys from there. It's like a nightmare that won't go away. Yeah, 0:10:24.800 --> 0:10:29.000 I remember all these guys so real. Good brother. And 0:10:29.040 --> 0:10:32.520 he was with he was with Pucci when he was killed, 0:10:32.720 --> 0:10:37.720 when he got killed and he was shotting injured. Actually 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:42.520 him and Pucci were best friends at the time, and 0:10:42.600 --> 0:10:47.200 that's what killed me because I thought Pucci switched on 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:52.120 Chin and and had him killed. So I mean, I'm 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:54.839 thinking one way, but it didn't actually go that way. 0:10:55.200 --> 0:10:58.800 And my cousin even said that they were best friends. 0:10:58.840 --> 0:11:01.200 He wouldn't do him like that. So even though Pooch 0:11:01.320 --> 0:11:03.840 was in the car with him, you thought maybe there 0:11:03.920 --> 0:11:05.600 was a chance that he was involved in that, even 0:11:05.600 --> 0:11:08.680 though he got shot too, only because that that that 0:11:09.200 --> 0:11:12.559 Pucci was like got one hunter with George and they 0:11:12.679 --> 0:11:17.920 was like tight. So whatever George did, I I'm you know, 0:11:18.000 --> 0:11:20.480 it leads you to believe we're not great set up 0:11:20.480 --> 0:11:24.880 here Bill George up like he was the one that 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.760 he was tight with. And the reason that they all 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.800 were associated with was because of this food Roger Reed 0:11:30.000 --> 0:11:32.679 they called Little Rod, who was the main connect out 0:11:32.679 --> 0:11:35.640 there with the drugs, and they all was working for him. Well, 0:11:35.760 --> 0:11:39.120 I mean it just goes to say that once those 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:42.719 guys started hanging together, he one do something. They all 0:11:42.760 --> 0:11:45.280 guilty to me, and if you go out the one, 0:11:45.320 --> 0:11:50.720 you gotta go at all of them. No loose sands. Alright, 0:11:50.800 --> 0:11:53.480 Any any last thoughts on on Shin. What do you 0:11:53.480 --> 0:11:56.679 think of Reggie that he put him on the shirt? Well, 0:11:56.760 --> 0:12:01.040 I had no problem with I of history and to 0:12:01.160 --> 0:12:04.240 know that, you know, people was fascinated with these characters 0:12:04.760 --> 0:12:10.360 and the individuals and so hey, that's how you get 0:12:10.360 --> 0:12:13.040 to know it. That's how you shoot rumors and and 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:16.280 and bullshit. Down, just put out by people that in 0:12:16.360 --> 0:12:18.520 my line, in my mind, had nothing to do with 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.520 the guys or even knew what they were if they 0:12:20.520 --> 0:12:22.240 walked in and slapped them in their face while they're 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:25.720 sitting at the restaurant, and that likes to speak on him. So, 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:27.880 out of the five on the shirt, Sin was killed 0:12:28.160 --> 0:12:30.240 first out of the five and two thousand. I believe 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:33.160 she was still in prison. He didn't. He wasn't released 0:12:33.240 --> 0:12:36.199 yet when that one happened, correct, and he I think 0:12:36.200 --> 0:12:39.520 it was released two thousand one. Uh, he was released 0:12:39.600 --> 0:12:43.040 August the third, two thousand and one. So let's go 0:12:43.080 --> 0:12:46.880 on to the third person on the shirt, David brim 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:53.839 Dave Dudley March one. He was killed this one I've 0:12:53.880 --> 0:12:57.840 been I've been knowing this little guy, his brother, his 0:12:57.960 --> 0:13:01.080 big brother is is my home where it was one 0:13:01.160 --> 0:13:04.240 hundred since the third grade. They lived across the street 0:13:04.240 --> 0:13:08.560 from the school and uh from Stephen C. Foster, and 0:13:08.720 --> 0:13:10.920 I always thought a little Dave was gonna be from 0:13:10.960 --> 0:13:15.560 the hood because they lived there. But they moved and 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.040 the next time I've seen him he was Brim Dave. 0:13:19.320 --> 0:13:24.200 He's a grown man now. And me and Tim Tom 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:28.840 hung out so much that man, this this guy right here. 0:13:28.960 --> 0:13:30.720 So when I put a little Dave on the on 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:32.600 the shirt, little Davy was killed in front of my 0:13:32.679 --> 0:13:37.840 house sixteen o nine. He's killing and and he was 0:13:37.880 --> 0:13:40.720 coming to pretty much let my brother know that these 0:13:40.720 --> 0:13:45.320 guys got a hit on him. And somebody went back 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:49.920 and told them that little Dave was was are like 0:13:50.080 --> 0:13:54.000 family to us, which they didn't know. Nobody knew Dave 0:13:54.080 --> 0:13:59.680 knew our family and was that clote So the same 0:14:00.000 --> 0:14:02.680 these guys setting waited until he walked out to the 0:14:02.679 --> 0:14:06.000 house with him and his girlfriend, and when he went 0:14:06.080 --> 0:14:08.559 to put his key in the car, they pulled up, 0:14:08.559 --> 0:14:10.760 got out and spread him with a k I think 0:14:10.800 --> 0:14:14.360 little Davy was shot twenty three times. He was lit up. Yeah, 0:14:14.640 --> 0:14:17.079 his girlfriend was shot. I think did she lose on 0:14:18.400 --> 0:14:22.640 she lost her arm. She thank god she she was 0:14:22.680 --> 0:14:26.680 pregnant and she had shaved your kid. But he was 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:28.920 killed right in front of our house. Man, And this 0:14:29.000 --> 0:14:31.880 was done. My grandmother's house was right next door. Caused 0:14:31.920 --> 0:14:34.480 them to move out to him. And after that happened, 0:14:34.480 --> 0:14:37.160 a matter of fact, they end up selling their house 0:14:37.200 --> 0:14:40.960 two bunch to Uh Jane's sister Uh because they had 0:14:40.960 --> 0:14:43.000 to get out of there because it was like there 0:14:43.000 --> 0:14:46.280 were so many shots that was fired at that location 0:14:46.320 --> 0:14:49.200 they thought there was a war going on. But well 0:14:49.200 --> 0:14:51.880 they actually had two eight k's and they shot him 0:14:51.960 --> 0:14:55.160 up with two eight k's showed imagine looking at his 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:59.200 body right there by the door. You know what I'm saying. 0:14:59.280 --> 0:15:05.280 That's two shooters. Yeah, yeah, in a vand doors open. 0:15:06.120 --> 0:15:09.200 Anything about a guy that loves with the m o 0:15:09.520 --> 0:15:13.000 of having a van and shooting up people with the 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:16.560 a K then you know who did who's responsible for that? 0:15:16.880 --> 0:15:21.760 We all know who it is, um. And it was 0:15:21.920 --> 0:15:24.240 a result of sending a bunch of you a message, 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:27.280 is what it really was about. From a law enforcement 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.800 on point of view. Yeah, where they actually let a 0:15:29.800 --> 0:15:33.120 little David know, we know what you're doing, we know 0:15:33.240 --> 0:15:35.480 you over here. Yeah, but they followed them over there 0:15:35.840 --> 0:15:38.600 to shoot him lift dog. Well, I mean, I ain't 0:15:38.600 --> 0:15:40.240 going to speak with you and go back and forth, 0:15:40.720 --> 0:15:43.840 but we had a guy in the neighborhood that was 0:15:44.640 --> 0:15:48.880 basically scared and he was going back and forth with 0:15:49.080 --> 0:15:53.200 with intail and and a couple of these guys that 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:56.680 should be shoulder. What happened when you got half as 0:15:56.840 --> 0:16:00.320 lawyer cat on your team and you feed him, but 0:16:00.400 --> 0:16:03.240 then he goes to the next cat for five more 0:16:03.320 --> 0:16:07.400 dollars than what you've given me, and then he telling everything. 0:16:07.880 --> 0:16:11.440 So it was it was it was a sad day. 0:16:12.240 --> 0:16:17.240 And for him to die like that, I mean, you 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:21.680 never want to see nothing like that in your life. Um, 0:16:21.880 --> 0:16:25.560 you say overkilled, you know. And this is all in 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:28.840 the result of the next person on your list. Now, 0:16:28.840 --> 0:16:32.880 were you maintaining relationships with law enforcement and Compton where 0:16:32.880 --> 0:16:34.320 you were able to find out what was going on 0:16:34.400 --> 0:16:38.160 even though at this time he was working as a 0:16:38.200 --> 0:16:42.400 death row employee. Yeah, my father was still employed with 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:45.920 the Lost Tallem the Sheriff's Department, uh, during some of this, 0:16:46.120 --> 0:16:49.640 and he was running the game unit and the homicide 0:16:49.760 --> 0:16:52.560 unit during some of these with when it was Compton 0:16:52.600 --> 0:16:56.800 p D. So most of these, if not all of them, 0:16:56.920 --> 0:17:02.080 are unsolved or open cases. Yeah yeah, alright, well you 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.040 know they basically took it. Well, the person that's responsible 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:07.120 for most of them is doing life in jail, yeah 0:17:07.400 --> 0:17:10.120 for something else though, it don't matter. He's in jail 0:17:10.200 --> 0:17:14.280 for life, all right. So the next person you had 0:17:14.320 --> 0:17:21.840 on your shirt, James was Henry after one to events 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:25.359 is not on the shirt but we could talk about 0:17:25.359 --> 0:17:29.800 we'll come back to vent. Henry Hendog Smith thirty three 0:17:30.400 --> 0:17:33.040 was killed on October two thousand two, and it was 0:17:33.080 --> 0:17:37.760 credited with designing probably the most famous logo and music 0:17:37.840 --> 0:17:46.800 history Exactly hand Up lived at our house. Most of 0:17:46.840 --> 0:17:48.840 the most of the guys in the neighborhood lived at 0:17:48.880 --> 0:17:57.920 our house at one point in time. Um, he was, man, 0:17:58.000 --> 0:17:59.960 I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't want to 0:18:00.240 --> 0:18:05.080 Just me and James have different opinions on on on 0:18:05.400 --> 0:18:10.200 this incident. Umhn Dog left work, left death Row records. 0:18:10.320 --> 0:18:14.679 Um he was working in the graveyard show. Uh, watching 0:18:14.720 --> 0:18:17.639 the building at night. I was going from death Row 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.080 at that time and my security was going as well. 0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:21.679 From death Row. There we talking about the building on 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:25.560 seven and Wilshire. Yes, two hundred Willsher. I mean it's 0:18:25.600 --> 0:18:28.720 really eight two hundred. It's really an address in the 0:18:28.840 --> 0:18:32.000 l A on seven Sinte. But somehow we got got 0:18:32.040 --> 0:18:35.040 the address or eighty two hundred Willsher, which I owned. 0:18:35.160 --> 0:18:40.360 I was downer of that building. Um. But anyway, Um, 0:18:40.480 --> 0:18:43.760 he was going home on his way home and uh 0:18:43.840 --> 0:18:47.600 he stopped at a gym. Dadny taken over on imperiod 0:18:47.600 --> 0:18:51.639 in Vermont in the Denver Lanes area. This where where 0:18:52.160 --> 0:18:56.840 James and I differ. Um, I believe Uh, he was 0:18:56.840 --> 0:18:58.920 setting in the car, his kid was in the back 0:18:58.920 --> 0:19:01.600 seat of the car, and um, they were going they 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:04.480 were looking for an apartment in that area. Uh, they 0:19:04.480 --> 0:19:06.919 didn't have cell phones. Most people don't know back in 0:19:06.920 --> 0:19:10.600 the nineties it's hard to have cell phones. But still 0:19:12.480 --> 0:19:15.119 if they wasn't, as in everybody here like we have 0:19:15.200 --> 0:19:18.920 him now. And so they stopped at the phone boot 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:23.119 and his girl got on the phone to call someone, 0:19:23.600 --> 0:19:26.320 and someone rolled up on the bicycle while he was 0:19:26.359 --> 0:19:28.760 sitting in the car on the driver's side and shot 0:19:28.760 --> 0:19:30.520 and killed him with his kid in the back seat. 0:19:31.160 --> 0:19:36.120 I believe the reline is responsible. However, James, to my opinion, 0:19:36.480 --> 0:19:39.639 as from conversations we had before, I think he differs 0:19:39.680 --> 0:19:43.480 on that. Now, was it expected that hand dog was 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:48.680 gonna be at this location? Was a lesson? Some people 0:19:48.720 --> 0:19:53.000 would suspect his woman of setting him up. Every guy 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:57.399 on his paper was followed, everybody was shut up. And 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.399 then would you agree with that? I agree with the 0:19:59.440 --> 0:20:01.760 Only reason that I don't is because of the bicycles. 0:20:01.760 --> 0:20:04.880 But go ahead, well, I mean the bio single. I mean, 0:20:05.800 --> 0:20:09.640 I mean the way hand dog was my little brother. 0:20:11.160 --> 0:20:16.320 Hand dog became a little cousin to us, to mom, James, 0:20:16.359 --> 0:20:21.520 Jimmy room, a bunch of reality, my mother to my sister's. Uh, 0:20:21.760 --> 0:20:24.520 hand dog had a key to our house. He came 0:20:24.560 --> 0:20:27.720 in and left when he wanted to. That was our 0:20:27.920 --> 0:20:34.920 little brother. And read you've never seen him hurt nobody 0:20:35.400 --> 0:20:39.280 unless it was on some like some real bey at 0:20:39.359 --> 0:20:49.679 some real ship. Um they killed him, Um, somebody felt 0:20:49.680 --> 0:20:52.240 the need to kill him. You know what I'm saying 0:20:52.960 --> 0:21:02.120 to just a disrespectful kill as my brother. Yeah, now 0:21:02.160 --> 0:21:04.640 he was was he was he in Vegas the day 0:21:04.640 --> 0:21:08.240 Park was killed? Was he in the lobby? No? Okay, 0:21:08.440 --> 0:21:10.480 some people said he was, probably, but he wasn't one 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:16.000 of the ones in now okay, all right, Well, another 0:21:16.280 --> 0:21:19.760 open case unsolved l A p D. Don't blame that 0:21:19.760 --> 0:21:22.399 one on Come, no, I'm not blaming it on anyone. Up. 0:21:22.600 --> 0:21:25.639 I don't blame the police for any unsolved cases because 0:21:25.640 --> 0:21:29.640 you don't know the specifics of it. But the last 0:21:29.640 --> 0:21:35.320 person on your shirt, James is William chin Walker April four, 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:40.800 two thousand. I'm sorry, your brother is the last person 0:21:40.840 --> 0:21:45.480 on the shirt. Your blood brother, you're the guy that 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:50.040 you you introduced him to Sugar, and um, it's obviously 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.680 you put him on the shirt because that's your bro. 0:21:53.320 --> 0:21:55.240 And I didn't want to just put him on the shirt. 0:21:55.880 --> 0:21:59.040 Let me every time, every every time I get here, 0:21:59.080 --> 0:22:02.280 I get cheeriot and ship someone trying to do this 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:09.239 one without it. H Uh. Me and Bunchy fought all 0:22:09.280 --> 0:22:11.320 the time over half of the ship that was going 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:17.600 on with death Bro. I never expected for him to 0:22:17.640 --> 0:22:23.040 lose his life, bringing him and and and telling him that, Okay, 0:22:23.560 --> 0:22:29.080 got a spot for you, bunch with George. None of 0:22:29.119 --> 0:22:33.480 these guys new ship. You might have knew of him, 0:22:33.480 --> 0:22:46.119 but you never that would ship. Never, Um, bunch of 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:50.600 the whole thing was, Okay, I got a job. I 0:22:50.960 --> 0:22:52.879 ain't gotta do what I was doing. I ain't got 0:22:53.000 --> 0:22:56.080 to violate my parole no more, which he was doing 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:57.879 that every day he walked out to damn house. He 0:22:57.920 --> 0:23:01.840 was violating he was doing something. Uh, flying out of 0:23:01.880 --> 0:23:05.399 time with Sugar or whatever. But I mean, you know 0:23:05.800 --> 0:23:11.720 your brother, and when he died, I pretty much said 0:23:11.720 --> 0:23:15.680 it was my fault that that he's gone. Um, well, 0:23:15.720 --> 0:23:17.960 because you introduced him to Sugar in the first place. 0:23:18.160 --> 0:23:22.040 That and that if if me and Ouncon would like 0:23:22.200 --> 0:23:26.240 physically fought a couple of fights we had, then I 0:23:26.280 --> 0:23:28.919 think he would have seen the picture and seeing what 0:23:29.040 --> 0:23:34.280 I saw coming, what I saw coming, and he thought 0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:38.240 it was easier if I walked away when I when 0:23:38.240 --> 0:23:41.479 I was done with sugaring them, it was it was 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.800 more for him to do him and the way he 0:23:45.840 --> 0:23:50.600 was getting down, and man, my brother, he wouldn't have saint, 0:23:51.040 --> 0:23:54.399 none of us was. You know what I'm saying. You know, 0:23:54.520 --> 0:23:57.800 it's just cold that my brother was killed by the 0:23:57.880 --> 0:24:01.000 things that I represented, the thing said I believe in 0:24:01.880 --> 0:24:05.119 solely believed in. And maybe if my brother wouldn't have 0:24:05.160 --> 0:24:07.720 been killed by the homies, I would probably be in 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.960 the same still doing the same ship I was doing. 0:24:10.359 --> 0:24:12.600 I'd probably be over the in the hood, the big homie. 0:24:13.359 --> 0:24:18.480 But um, I just I just thought doing the shirt 0:24:18.520 --> 0:24:22.359 and putting them on the shirts. I'm just gonna always 0:24:22.400 --> 0:24:25.960 remember my brother. And that's me letting them know that 0:24:26.040 --> 0:24:29.480 I'm still here. You didn't go away in a year. 0:24:30.320 --> 0:24:33.879