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Speaker 3: The first gate we're going here. This one is the

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Speaker 3: main gate. Where we're going is an entrance, but it's

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Speaker 3: about forty minutes from the base. This is an active

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Speaker 3: base on people think it isn't it is. I've seen

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Speaker 3: too many planes over the years. I've seen too many

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Speaker 3: things they train. Look how many cameras That one rotates

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Speaker 3: and watches us. That one sometimes will follow you, and

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Speaker 3: then you have three cameras on that pullback.

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Speaker 4: There you have a camera to the right.

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Speaker 3: I don't know of any government installation of any kind

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Speaker 3: in the country that goes to the level of secrecy

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Speaker 3: this one does.

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Speaker 5: This is it right here?

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Speaker 3: If you cross, they will detain you. I hold you

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Speaker 3: in federal prisons six months to a year.

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Speaker 2: So you said, I probably shouldn't cross that stop side.

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Speaker 4: Do not go through that gate. I'm not going with you.

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Speaker 2: If you do, welcome to high stranger.

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Speaker 4: Here.

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Speaker 6: If you do ones like part of this mythology, it's

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Speaker 6: just become the sort of mecca for people. For a while,

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Speaker 6: they wouldn't even acknowledge there was such a place. We

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Speaker 6: know it exists, but it's extremely secretive. The base develops

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Speaker 6: our most advanced secret military aircraft, so we might not

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Speaker 6: find out about something for years after it already happens

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Speaker 6: at that base and they're test flying it, and it's

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Speaker 6: very very sensitive because you don't want our adversaries to

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Speaker 6: know about what we're doing. I mean, it makes complete sense

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Speaker 6: that it would be secret. There's always people going around

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Speaker 6: trying to peek in and stuff like that.

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Speaker 2: Hey that's me. Let's face it, though.

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Speaker 1: The odds of getting a glimpse of anything extraordinary here

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Speaker 1: are pretty much zero. But with all the hype around

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Speaker 1: Area fifty one, this is a place that I still

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Speaker 1: want to see with my own eyes.

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Speaker 6: You get in big trouble if you try to cross

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Speaker 6: fences and things that are all around that base.

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Speaker 1: Indeed they do, at least that's what the sign says,

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Speaker 1: And apparently in twenty nineteen it actually happened. A man

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Speaker 1: with a quote cylindrical object in his hands, approached the

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Speaker 1: base entrance and just kept on walking, and when he

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Speaker 1: ultimately breached the security gate, he was shot.

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Speaker 2: Dead on site by a guard. Yeah, we're not doing

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Speaker 2: all that.

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Speaker 1: Because of Area fifty one's place in UFO pop culture,

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Speaker 1: it's attracted all kinds of people over the years. You

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Speaker 1: might remember an event called Storm Area fifty one that

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Speaker 7: Nevada officials are bracing for an invasion at Area fifty

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Speaker 7: one by humans. Now the extraterrestrial hub is front and

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Speaker 7: center thanks to a Facebook group dubbed Storm Area fifty one.

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Speaker 7: They can't stop us all.

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Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, a Facebook event was made as a

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Speaker 1: joke inviting people to raid Area fifty one.

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Speaker 6: All these people logged into Facebook and said, yeah, i'll go,

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Speaker 6: I'll go, I'll go, and it became this movement.

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Speaker 1: Within a few months, the event had over two million

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Speaker 7: Memes, attracting more than two million fans. The movement quickly

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Speaker 6: The Storm Area fifty one declares we can move faster

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Speaker 5: Let's see them aliens.

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Speaker 6: I think it speaks to the frustration that people have

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Speaker 6: that's been building up over decades, the fact that they're

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Speaker 6: the government. This was sort of an expression of that

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Speaker 6: they don't know what to do, but they don't know

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Speaker 1: On September twentieth, twenty nineteen, the storm Area fifty one

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Speaker 1: event really happened, but it was quite underwhelming. A few

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Speaker 1: one reading clap alien cheeks what. As a result, six

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Speaker 4: You work at Area fifty one, you're never supposed to

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Speaker 4: tell anybody. You're not supposed to tell your loved ones.

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Speaker 4: You have a contract that doesn't really exist.

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Speaker 3: So somebody working at Area fifty one could work at

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Speaker 3: working on at cog of the machine. They don't know

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Speaker 3: probably only a handful of people that really know what's

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Speaker 3: and to that degree, it makes me wonder why, even

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Speaker 3: if it was national defense, you still think that people

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Speaker 3: It's more about what you don't see and what you

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Speaker 3: don't hear about it, and why.

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Speaker 4: They go to that level. I have no clue what

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Speaker 4: do we know. We know nothing.

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Speaker 3: I mean, it's all conspiracy opinion, so quite easily if

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Speaker 3: they're hiding something here, this is a great place for it.

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Speaker 3: There's nothing around it, so you could hide all kinds

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Speaker 3: of stuff here, I was told by a sheriff. Once

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Speaker 3: you enter the base through the gate, there's another gate

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Speaker 3: five minutes in, another gate like ten minutes in, so

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Speaker 3: you're passing by multiple gates after you get the first

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Speaker 3: initial one. If you drive into it, and you're going

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Speaker 3: to be surrounded right away.

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Speaker 4: This is it rare.

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Speaker 1: Our guide parked the suv a short walk from the

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Speaker 1: second gate. Dusty water was pulling across the desert road

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Speaker 1: from a rare recent rain in the area, so from

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Speaker 1: this point we had to get out and walk the

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Speaker 4: It's actually the dotted line.

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Speaker 1: The entrance is surrounded by two massive hills in the

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Speaker 1: perfect position for an amazing vantage point on pretty much.

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Speaker 2: Anything down below.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I knew we were being watched, but it's

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Speaker 1: almost like you could feel it too. Throughout the course

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Speaker 1: of the day, our local guide rattled off fun facts

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Speaker 1: and interesting anecdotes about the base.

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Speaker 2: He's personally been coming here for years.

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Speaker 1: The stories he told kept the illusion alive that we

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Speaker 1: were in some kind of spy movie.

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Speaker 2: I didn't mind it.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 3: About a year ago in April, I was coming to

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Speaker 3: Area fifty one. On the right hand side of the car,

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Speaker 3: there's a stealth bomber. Literally it's flying alongside of us,

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Speaker 3: and I said, hey, can you guys record that? So

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Speaker 3: they take video of it. When they send it to me,

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Speaker 3: you could hear the stealth. No, there was nothing in

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Speaker 3: that video. We should have had it in the video.

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Speaker 3: How did they miss it? Was they edited the video

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Speaker 3: or there was something blocking it from recording, But whatever

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Speaker 3: it was, we should have had it in the video.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about all that, but maybe I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I will say this, my phone had no service the

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Speaker 1: whole time, and it was a little glitchy, freezing and

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Speaker 1: moving slow, and it seemed to stop when we left

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Speaker 2: Probably just need the new iOS update right now.

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Speaker 3: I've been coming here for years, and about a month ago,

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Speaker 3: I was about five eight miles up something like that,

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Speaker 3: and all of a sudden we thought it was aircraft

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Speaker 3: because it was super loud.

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Speaker 4: So I'm like, oh my, is that a jet? And

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Speaker 4: then I realized it's the tire.

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Speaker 3: I got out of my car to get the tire

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Speaker 3: in the back, and there was a black truck, share

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Speaker 3: of truck that I've never even seen in this area,

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Speaker 3: and he stopped and asked me if I needed help.

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Speaker 3: I don't know where he came from, and I'm not

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Speaker 3: kidding about that. I literally did not see him coming

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Speaker 3: or going, and it shocked me that actually somebody was

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Speaker 4: It's a fifteen minute dirt road.

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Speaker 3: You can see all the way around you for miles,

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Speaker 3: so if you had like a black truck or anything, you.

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Speaker 4: Would see it coming from miles. My opinion.

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Speaker 3: Now, there could be an entrance you only could see.

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Speaker 4: On the right angle.

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Speaker 2: Hang on, let me get my tenfoil hat.

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Speaker 1: This place is certainly mysterious, and even objectively so you

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Speaker 1: could say all kinds of crazy things about it.

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Speaker 2: But the fact is we truly know nothing.

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Speaker 1: Even if they're just testing our own advanced aircraft here,

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Speaker 1: it's not really a stretch to believe that they could

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Speaker 1: take their security measures to James Bond level.

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Speaker 9: Shit.

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Speaker 1: Thinking about all this stuff starts brewing this internal question,

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Speaker 1: do you want to be a skeptic, a believer, a

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Speaker 1: complete neutral?

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Speaker 2: Do you not care at all?

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Speaker 1: For me, it's the idea of wanting to believe versus

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Speaker 1: This sounds insane. As the sun was starting to set,

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Speaker 1: we called it a wrap on our Area fifty one adventure.

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Speaker 1: We saw no aliens or spaceships, but I got to

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Speaker 1: witness firsthand a level of secure, already in flat out

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Speaker 2: And for the links that they go to in order

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Speaker 2: to hide and.

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Speaker 1: Protect this place, you'd at least expect or even hope

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Speaker 1: they're doing something pretty damn cool in there. Or maybe

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Speaker 1: it's just a private golf course for senators.

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Speaker 2: Who knows.

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Speaker 10: We're going to talk about flying saucers. We're going to

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Speaker 10: talk about them from the standpoint of reporters, not as Canadians,

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Speaker 10: not as sensationalists.

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Speaker 1: I've always had an interest in the subject of UFOs

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Speaker 1: since I was a kid in the wouldn't that be

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Speaker 1: cool if they were a real kind of way nothing serious.

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Speaker 1: Not until I started making this show, going through cases,

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Speaker 1: digging up old documents, and talking to witnesses that I

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Speaker 1: start applying a more analytical approach to this thing. When

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Speaker 1: government knows more that they're hiding the truth. Most of

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Speaker 1: the conspiracy stuff, in my opinion, is nonsense. But when

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Speaker 1: you really peer down the barrel of the UFO topic,

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Speaker 1: you'll find that this whole government secrecy thing is actually

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Speaker 1: rooted in truth. Let's talk about Project blue Book for

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Speaker 1: a second.

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Speaker 11: In plain English, Project blue Book said there was a

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Speaker 11: certain percentage of cases they could not explain.

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Speaker 2: Here's Brian Bender.

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Speaker 5: They said that that's fifty years ago.

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Speaker 10: There have been a certain percentage of this volume of

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Speaker 10: reports that have been made by credible observers of relatively

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Speaker 10: incredible things. It is this group of observations that we

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Speaker 10: now are attempting to resolve.

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Speaker 11: From the late forties to the late sixties, Project blue

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Speaker 11: Book was a public government wide effort led by the

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Speaker 11: Air Force to look at this issue.

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Speaker 6: The CIA convene this panel early nineteen fifties in which

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Speaker 6: they decided to use ridicule and to use debunking as

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Speaker 6: a tool.

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Speaker 2: Here's Leslie Kane the tool.

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Speaker 6: To get people to stop focusing on this so much.

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Speaker 12: The United States Air Force has apparently clamped the lid

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Speaker 12: on much information about UFOs and sought to ridicule such

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Speaker 11: These agencies exist to withhold information.

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Speaker 5: It is what they're about.

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Speaker 11: They keep their weapons systems secret, how they work, sometimes

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Speaker 5: So that we have an edge over the bad guys,

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Speaker 11: If they do know more things, but they don't know everything,

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Speaker 10: Be transparent, There is no measurement that makes it possible

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Speaker 6: I don't like the term cover up. It has this

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Speaker 12: It's absolutely a fact private organizations exist that are wholly

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Speaker 6: Project Bluebook used ridicule to make witnesses feel bad or

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Speaker 1: They used the mass media to ridicule the topic, hired scientists, astronomers,

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Speaker 1: One line from the now declassified documents says, quote, we

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Speaker 1: These are all facts from government documents that were available

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Speaker 10: We have as a date come to only one firm conclusion.

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Speaker 10: It does not contain any pattern of purpose that we

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Speaker 6: In the nineteen seventies, Wealth of Documents came out a

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Speaker 2: These years later.

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Speaker 13: If they're saying there's things out there and we don't

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Speaker 6: I just think they're not saying everything.

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Speaker 5: There's no evidence that there are is.

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Speaker 6: There's no evidence that they're Russian or Chinese, but they

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Speaker 1: A Chinese by balloon was shot down about a month

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of distrust and healthy distrust in sort

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Speaker 5: I think the government knows more, even just understanding how

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Speaker 11: There's a lot of things that they know, puzzle pieces

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Speaker 11: It's a complete opposite. So when in doubt the stamp.

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Speaker 6: Classified, just classify, classify, classify. As we all know, in

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Speaker 11: A lot of times it's ridiculous stuff. It's not even

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Speaker 5: I think the truth is somewhere in between follow the facts.

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Speaker 11: I just go by what I've seen and the people

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Speaker 11: But as a journalist who covers the Pentagon, no matter

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Speaker 11: Whether you think their aliens or not, we should probably

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Speaker 8: Hillary and I went to Hawaii in twenty eighteen to

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Speaker 8: It's very unlikely that there is not life.

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Speaker 1: Not everyone out there is trying to prove the existence

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Speaker 9: It's fun to solve things.

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Speaker 1: Here's Mick West, owner of metabunk dot com, a community

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Speaker 14: With UFOs in particular, You're presented with an interesting little puzzle,

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Speaker 14: Most of those UFO cases are not interesting. The little

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Speaker 14: These are all possible explanations, but you start off with

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Speaker 15: You know.

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Speaker 14: Just saying a UFO sounds much simpler, but it's really not.

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Speaker 14: People have cognitive biases. If someone's looking for something, they

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Speaker 1: Obviously, not every strange sighting of an object in the

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Speaker 14: A few months ago, pilots started seeing what they described

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Speaker 14: tells you a number of interesting things. I mean, one

444
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Speaker 14: is that eyewitness accounts aren't always going to be reliable.

445
00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:22,360
Speaker 14: Sometimes people mess up, sometimes equipment fails. We know these

446
00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 14: things happen, and we know coincidences happen. We know that

447
00:25:24,840 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 14: sometimes something happens on the same day as another thing

448
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,920
Speaker 14: that seems really weird. Sometimes you see something on TV,

449
00:25:30,000 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 14: then you see the same thing down the street. The

450
00:25:32,800 --> 00:25:39,920
Speaker 14: weird coincidence they happen. Is that actually stranger than the alternatives.

451
00:25:42,160 --> 00:25:45,160
Speaker 14: If I give an explanation that requires a few hoops

452
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:45,840
Speaker 14: to be jumped through.

453
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,960
Speaker 9: Say, it requires the radar.

454
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Speaker 14: To be faulty and someone to have made a mistake,

455
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 14: to have misperceived something from their flight. It sounds like

456
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Speaker 14: I'm having to jump through a whole bunch of hoops.

457
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,560
Speaker 14: But is a radar failing and someone making a mistake

458
00:26:00,640 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 14: and someone else misperceiving something and someone else taking a video?

459
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:07,280
Speaker 14: Is that actually stranger than the discovery of a new

460
00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 14: alien race visiting Earth with their spaceships. If UFOs are

461
00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 14: something like aliens, that would tell us something really significant

462
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 14: about the universe. Monumental is significant in terms of human's

463
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Speaker 14: place in the world. A lot of human society is

464
00:26:33,720 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 14: based upon religion, and religion is kind of predicated on

465
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Speaker 14: the idea that God created man and the universe for man.

466
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Speaker 9: And it's just that.

467
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Speaker 14: If all of a sudden you get these aliens thrown

468
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 14: into the mix, that's going to upend a bunch of

469
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 14: people's perceptions about the way the world works. It'll also

470
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Speaker 14: upend things like technology, how do we get to the stars?

471
00:26:58,359 --> 00:27:00,399
Speaker 14: You know, how do we extend our lives? How do

472
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,120
Speaker 14: we know what happens after death? So there's all these

473
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:06,480
Speaker 14: questions that people are just fundamentally super interested in that

474
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,200
Speaker 14: look like they might have answers if some really advanced

475
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 14: alien civilization came here.

476
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Speaker 9: It pushes a lot of buttons.

477
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Speaker 14: You want to avoid being an advocate for one explanation.

478
00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:24,359
Speaker 14: And I think a mistake people make when they're investigating

479
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,439
Speaker 14: things is they think of this is what it probably is.

480
00:27:27,680 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 14: They decide in their minds, you know, this is where

481
00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:31,679
Speaker 14: it is, and then they spend all their time trying

482
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 14: to make an argument that it is that thing, which

483
00:27:35,920 --> 00:27:39,119
Speaker 14: is kind of a bad approach. If anything, you should

484
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 14: be doing the opposite. You should be trying to disprove

485
00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 14: the human brain is wired to recognize patterns. Paridelia is

486
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:54,679
Speaker 14: seeing patterns where patterns don't exist, like you see patterns

487
00:27:54,680 --> 00:27:58,119
Speaker 14: in random data. You see faces in the knots of

488
00:27:58,160 --> 00:28:01,520
Speaker 14: a tree, you see Jesus in this slight toast. It's

489
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:05,120
Speaker 14: just a natural human thing. It's not hard to get

490
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:09,639
Speaker 14: something that's simply unidentified. If you just see a white

491
00:28:09,680 --> 00:28:12,919
Speaker 14: cigar shaped object moving in the sky and it's like

492
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:15,879
Speaker 14: thirty miles away, it's probably going to be a plane,

493
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,919
Speaker 14: but it's a UFO because you can't tell exactly what

494
00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:19,360
Speaker 14: it is.

495
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 1: According to the Pentagon, they've cataloged over five hundred UFO

496
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Speaker 1: sidings in recent years, and over three hundred of them

497
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,400
Speaker 1: were in twenty twenty two alone. Out of these new cases,

498
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Speaker 1: six of them were ruled to be airborne clutter, twenty

499
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 1: six were drones, and one hundred and sixty three were

500
00:28:38,040 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: likely balloons. That leaves one hundred and seventy one cases

501
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Speaker 1: that have no explanation at all.

502
00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 14: UFOs are really only compelling to me if they do

503
00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 14: something interesting. If you see a white cigar shaped object

504
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 14: zip across the sky, stop at one point to the sky,

505
00:28:56,840 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 14: zoom down to the ground, and shoot off into space,

506
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:05,400
Speaker 14: be really compelling. I think you've always got to keep

507
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 14: an open mind. You've got to recognize that there is

508
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:13,480
Speaker 14: a possibility that some of the cases that don't have

509
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,920
Speaker 14: an immediate and obvious explanation could be some kind of

510
00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 14: advanced technology, could be something that a foreign power has developed.

511
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,960
Speaker 14: It could be a secret US military program, It could

512
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Speaker 14: be visiting aliens. These are possibilities that we shouldn't eliminate

513
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 14: just because they sound really outrageous, but you've got to

514
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:39,840
Speaker 14: keep them in the context of where the evidence actually is.

515
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 14: If we have something that unambiguously demonstrates advanced physics related

516
00:29:48,440 --> 00:29:53,240
Speaker 14: by a reliable source. That would be a real strong

517
00:29:53,280 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 14: pointer towards it being something new, that there was something

518
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:57,720
Speaker 14: going on.

519
00:30:20,400 --> 00:30:22,360
Speaker 6: What makes it case credible is when there's a lot

520
00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:28,720
Speaker 6: of data. Definitely, multiple witnesses is a basic criteria. If

521
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 6: the witnesses are military and highly trained, that gives it

522
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:37,200
Speaker 6: another level of credibility, as opposed to like guys at

523
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Speaker 6: three in the morning drinking beer on their back porch.

524
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Speaker 17: Right.

525
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Speaker 5: It's like any detective story.

526
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Speaker 11: The more people that have seen it from different vantage

527
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:53,680
Speaker 11: points have similar testimonies, the credibility of those people.

528
00:30:54,280 --> 00:30:56,680
Speaker 5: What are the facts versus what is just opinioned.

529
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Speaker 11: The most interesting cases are the ones that fit into

530
00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:03,280
Speaker 11: that category.

531
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Speaker 5: Lots of people reported seeing it, Lots of their testimonies

532
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,959
Speaker 5: are similar what they saw and when they saw it.

533
00:31:13,240 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 11: Cases like that, you can't just dismiss them.

534
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 18: This is Woodbridge Airfield, an American Air Force base in

535
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Speaker 18: eastern England.

536
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,240
Speaker 5: Woodbridgefield was the sight of.

537
00:31:28,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 18: Something that witnesses say seemed to be taken from science fiction.

538
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Around Christmas time in nineteen eighty, multiple UFOs were reported

539
00:31:37,440 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: over a United States military base in eastern England.

540
00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,920
Speaker 18: This official US Air Force report obtained under the Freedom

541
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Speaker 18: of Information Act documents two UFO incidents that were intensely

542
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Speaker 18: investigated by the Air Force. A triangular luminous flying object

543
00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 18: with a red light on top and a series of

544
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 18: blue lights underneath. A circular, translucent ground hugging disc various

545
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:05,400
Speaker 18: lights moving erratically about the night sky, one of which

546
00:32:05,440 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 18: occasionally beamed the shaft of white light downward.

547
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,400
Speaker 1: It is now known infamously as the Rendalsham Forest incident.

548
00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:20,000
Speaker 1: The event occurred over three days and involved multiple witnesses

549
00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,440
Speaker 1: in the military that were stationed on the base. What

550
00:32:23,560 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: these men encountered in the Rendalsham Forest in nineteen eighty

551
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:31,200
Speaker 1: remains unexplained to this day. I was able to track

552
00:32:31,280 --> 00:32:35,040
Speaker 1: down one of the witnesses, a retired military officer who's

553
00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:36,280
Speaker 1: now in his late seventies.

554
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 9: I'm just gonna put this in.

555
00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 17: Front of sarted.

556
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: If you want to start, maybe you could just tell

557
00:32:49,480 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 1: us your name of the retired rank.

558
00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 16: My name is Charles Halt. Thirty one years ago. I

559
00:32:56,480 --> 00:33:00,400
Speaker 16: was in the Air Force Deputy based Command during the

560
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:06,560
Speaker 16: nineteen eighties and was witnessed to an unusual event that's

561
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Speaker 16: kind of left mark on me. What happened in the

562
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 16: forest over three nights. In our contacts, what we know unexplainable.

563
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,200
Speaker 16: It's a burden. There's so much nonsense, so much clutter.

564
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 16: There are more, how shall I say, people on the

565
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:31,600
Speaker 16: fringe of this subject than you can believe.

566
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 5: I meet a lot of them. Believe me.

567
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,320
Speaker 16: I certainly haven't looked for fame or money. I haven't

568
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 16: ask you for any money. My biggest concern is that

569
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:43,920
Speaker 16: the truth is out there.

570
00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 1: Charles Holt's story begins on December twenty seventh, nineteen eighty when.

571
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Speaker 16: I walked into the police station. The desk sergeant started

572
00:34:03,160 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 16: a laugh. I said, what's so funny? Thinking it's you know,

573
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 16: he's been working too long, and it's on holidays and whatnot.

574
00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:14,040
Speaker 16: He said, Carl, you're not going to believe this. Last night, Burrows,

575
00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:16,960
Speaker 16: Peniston and Cabanasac were out in the woods chasing UFOs

576
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 16: all night. I know it wasn't one of our aircraft.

577
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 16: The following night, we were having.

578
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Speaker 9: Our Christmas party.

579
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Speaker 16: We were at the Woody barr all forty two officers

580
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Speaker 16: with the exception of Bruce Ington, who was the on

581
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Speaker 16: duty police lieutenant. We had just finished dinner and we're

582
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 16: getting ready for dessert, and he came into the club

583
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,399
Speaker 16: white as a sheet. He said to me, we need

584
00:34:42,400 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 16: to talk. We went into the coch room and he

585
00:34:46,080 --> 00:34:52,120
Speaker 16: said it's back. The UFO's back. We get gassed up

586
00:34:52,160 --> 00:34:55,200
Speaker 16: across the base. We go down the East Gate Road

587
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:59,000
Speaker 16: back into the forest. Meantime, my mom my little cassette

588
00:34:59,040 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 16: recorder I carried with.

589
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:04,960
Speaker 1: Me everywhere throughout the night. Holt recorded his experience on

590
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Speaker 1: a cassette tape. He's had this audio for over forty

591
00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,960
Speaker 1: years now, and the tapes you're about to hear were

592
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:12,640
Speaker 1: the actual recordings from that night.

593
00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:17,279
Speaker 19: Heyin some kind of mechanical prod, I just sent back

594
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Speaker 19: into the white take.

595
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Speaker 16: The range to gar Kier and we're milling around and

596
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:25,719
Speaker 16: discussing it. England tells me two nights ago, the guy

597
00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,120
Speaker 16: saw this object in saw where landed and there's indentations

598
00:35:29,120 --> 00:35:30,400
Speaker 16: marks in the soil.

599
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,239
Speaker 17: Okay an now approaching area within about twenty five thirty Peek,

600
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Speaker 17: what kind of reasons do we get in the fine

601
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Speaker 17: pine or clicks?

602
00:35:38,920 --> 00:35:39,880
Speaker 4: And we get updated.

603
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:42,640
Speaker 16: We go into the forest and we do find these

604
00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,919
Speaker 16: three indentations. There are about an inch and a half deep,

605
00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 16: about ten or twelve inches across equidistance apart. We get

606
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,440
Speaker 16: the geyer Kinder right, and we find out that the

607
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 16: radiation readings are about nine times higher than background radiation

608
00:35:56,239 --> 00:35:59,880
Speaker 16: in the indentations.

609
00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 17: Of the area, and they can seem kind we get

610
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:06,200
Speaker 17: out there on the scale, I guess renown of the

611
00:36:06,320 --> 00:36:11,719
Speaker 17: high ten scale. The beater's definitely give them that. It's

612
00:36:11,719 --> 00:36:13,440
Speaker 17: a fast to flex neil I've seen yet.

613
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:18,360
Speaker 16: There's rub marks or scratch marks on the trees, like

614
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 16: something to rub them. When we look up, we can

615
00:36:21,239 --> 00:36:24,439
Speaker 16: see branches broken. You can see the sky like something

616
00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 16: to come down.

617
00:36:25,000 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 5: Through the trees.

618
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Speaker 16: We take radiation readings on the trees and are higher

619
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Speaker 16: on the inside toward the three indentations than they are

620
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Speaker 16: on the backside.

621
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Speaker 17: M h th be that.

622
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Speaker 9: Well, that's kind of funny.

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Speaker 17: That's that's you're right about your brain. I've never seen

624
00:36:42,719 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 17: are that's full. I never seen a pine tree, but

625
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 17: damage react to put that in. Yeah, well you're gonna

626
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:49,880
Speaker 17: stamp the bottle. We'll just.

627
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,680
Speaker 16: While we're meling around, somebody says, look out there, there's

628
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Speaker 16: this glowing red object.

629
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Speaker 17: You just find light that the other way where in

630
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Speaker 17: a pendent position here three the heads in between the

631
00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:06,440
Speaker 17: t There it is again, it's thread the head off

632
00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 17: my fast right there? What there it is? Yeah, I

633
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 17: see it too. What is it?

634
00:37:10,680 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 16: We don't know, sir, We don't got the east and

635
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,640
Speaker 16: in the farmer's field between us and the farmer's house

636
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 16: is a glowing red objects.

637
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:24,839
Speaker 17: A strange small red light. Look to be that maybe

638
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:26,600
Speaker 17: a quarter to a half now, maybe before they're out.

639
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:31,040
Speaker 16: When we first saw the glowing object in the field,

640
00:37:31,680 --> 00:37:33,080
Speaker 16: barnyard animals went wild.

641
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Speaker 17: We're hearting, very strange sounds out of the farmer's burning ard.

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00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,760
Speaker 12: Animals were very very active, making lefflot of noise.

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Speaker 16: It looks like the farmer's house is on fire from

644
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:50,120
Speaker 16: the reflection you see in the windows. We watched it

645
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Speaker 16: for several minutes and it moves into the forest through

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Speaker 16: the trees, obviously under intelligent control. I'm thinking, what am

647
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 16: I going to tell people? I have no choice now.

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00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 16: People know I'm out here. The command posts heard all

649
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 16: these comments. They know something's going on. They're gonna all

650
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 16: want an answer. This is just beyond anything I know that.

651
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Speaker 16: I can't explain it. I don't have any answers.

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Speaker 17: Let's start.

653
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Speaker 19: It's the first light where we've seen for about one

654
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:24,839
Speaker 19: hundred and fifty two hundred yards fight just definitely call

655
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Speaker 19: there's some type of strange.

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Speaker 17: Fish and red light and still I saw I y'll

657
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Speaker 17: look in in it.

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Speaker 19: Too weird it it appears that you may you move

659
00:38:33,320 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 19: a little bit this way. It's better than aspect hill.

660
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:42,399
Speaker 19: It's coming this way. It's definitely coming his way.

661
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,960
Speaker 16: It goes back out into the farmer's field directly overhead

662
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Speaker 16: a very high speed. At least fifteen people in the

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Speaker 16: weapons storage areas saw the objects in the sky, one.

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Speaker 16: I said, let's try and approach it. We move up

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Speaker 16: to get close, it went back out into the field.

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Speaker 16: It knew we were trying to get close.

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Speaker 17: Harry comes from the sop. He's not a turist now

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Speaker 16: Sparks are coming off so bright.

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Speaker 5: It was like looking at the sun.

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Speaker 4: The ground.

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Speaker 17: We've been a down.

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