Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George
Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center.
Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jattie and he
Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty.
Speaker 3: When you talk about rhetoric, gotta remember they tried to
Speaker 3: blow his head off.
Speaker 2: There's one candidate.
Speaker 3: In this race who's been shot at and hit in
Speaker 3: the ear and we're lucky they didn't blow his head off.
Speaker 3: And another guy tried to kill him the next week.
Speaker 3: So I'm not overly impressed about the rhetoric game here.
Speaker 2: The rhetoric they're speaking of. That's Lindsey Grahama.
Speaker 4: One of the talk shows yesterday, every one of your
Speaker 4: Sunday talk shows that none of you watched, and good
Speaker 4: for you, was focused on some things Trump said at
Speaker 4: his rally over the weekend. Last hour, we played the
Speaker 4: comments about Arnold Palmer's genitalia, which you.
Speaker 1: Had Arnie's genitals on your bingo card. Congratulations.
Speaker 4: It was fifteen seconds of an hour and a half rally.
Speaker 4: It is coarse and unneeded, but you know whatever. And
Speaker 4: also this is some of the course Rderick they were
Speaker 4: referring to.
Speaker 5: So you have to tell Kamala Harris that You've had
Speaker 5: enough that you just.
Speaker 2: Can't take it anymore. We can't stand you. Your ash
Speaker 2: vice president.
Speaker 6: The worst, You're.
Speaker 5: The worst vice president, Kamala, you fired, get.
Speaker 2: That fired, Get out of here.
Speaker 4: You're an S vice president. I don't know if it
Speaker 4: was that rally or a different rally where he said.
Speaker 1: Everything the Democrats touch turns to setting up the crowd.
Speaker 2: Nail went s bomb like spit.
Speaker 4: Oh, this is al them a column response running for
Speaker 4: president of the United States. So than every Republican that
Speaker 4: was on all the talk shows yesterday had to defend
Speaker 4: the Arnold Palmer's junk.
Speaker 2: Callin Kamala Harris.
Speaker 1: S, Wow, you know, I don't think saying what he
Speaker 1: said that elevates the discussion.
Speaker 2: I prefer the eloquence of Thomas Jefferson.
Speaker 1: But the idea that I would have to go on
Speaker 1: a talk show and like defend it and talk.
Speaker 2: About it for a while, I don't know.
Speaker 1: Ask him.
Speaker 2: He called her an S vice president. That's kind of funny.
Speaker 4: So the Wall Street Journal has their editorial board wrote
Speaker 4: a thing today about who's a fascist and who's not.
Speaker 4: And I heard it portrayed on MSNBC and was misled,
Speaker 4: which is not surprising because.
Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal I read it. What did they say
Speaker 2: on MSNBC?
Speaker 4: They were disgusted that the Wall Street Journal referring to
Speaker 4: Democrats and Biden as a fascist and giving Trump a
Speaker 4: pass when they actually have like seven paragraphs explaining why
Speaker 4: they preferred any other Republican candidate that existed to Trump,
Speaker 4: and that January sixth was abhorrence, et cetera.
Speaker 2: Et cetera, et cetera. Right, Yeah, but giving him a pass.
Speaker 2: Far from it.
Speaker 4: But the point being, and we've talked about this a lot,
Speaker 4: I'll jump down to this. Another reason that many Americans
Speaker 4: don't think Trump is a unique threat to democracy if
Speaker 4: they've seen Democrats break all sorts of political norms.
Speaker 2: To defeat him.
Speaker 4: Democrats exploited the Russia collusion narrative in twenty sixteen until
Speaker 4: it was exposed as a lie financed by Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Speaker 4: Democrats tried to keep mister Trump off the presidential ballot
Speaker 4: this year. Democrats have used the law in no fewer
Speaker 4: than five cases to disqualify him, and New York's Attorney
Speaker 4: general campaign explicitly promised to find something anything to charge
Speaker 4: him with. This subverts a basic principle of American Justice Democrats, I.
Speaker 1: Might interject very briefly, Democrats tried desperately to get to
Speaker 1: RFK Junior off of the ballot in several states. And
Speaker 1: then when he got on the ballot, because all the
Speaker 1: judges said, what are you doing? Of course he can
Speaker 1: be on the ballot, excuse me. And when he withdrew.
Speaker 1: Now they're turn trying desperately to keep him on the
Speaker 1: ballot even though he's withdrawn, to divide the votes. Oh,
Speaker 1: please save your fake principles for somebody else.
Speaker 4: Democrats, including Ms Harris, are also candidate saying they want
Speaker 4: to compromise the independence of the Supreme Court with new
Speaker 4: political rules and supervision, you know, pack the court, get
Speaker 4: rid of the filibuster. Even if they get a narrow
Speaker 4: control of the Senate along with the House and White House.
Speaker 4: They say they will break the sixty vote filibuster to
Speaker 4: do that. That, in our view, is a greater threat
Speaker 4: to the Constitution than anything mister Trump might be able
Speaker 4: to do in a second term. All of which is
Speaker 4: to say that the fear of fascism would have more
Speaker 4: credibility if Democrats didn't abuse power themselves. If they lose
Speaker 4: the election against a flawed mister Trump. It won't be
Speaker 4: because he's a want to be Mussolini. The reason will
Speaker 4: be the Biden Harris record. They also mentioned, because I
Speaker 4: saw an interview about this over the weekend. How about
Speaker 4: Biden's trying to bail out all the college student loans
Speaker 4: clearly illegal. Tried to push it through getting around the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court over and over again.
Speaker 2: And it's not an either or.
Speaker 1: Trump does all kinds of things that I think says
Speaker 1: and does things that I think are awful. But don't
Speaker 1: pretend that there's only one side that tries to use
Speaker 1: their power to accomplish anything they can.
Speaker 2: Come on, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 1: You're going to you're going to expand the Supreme Court
Speaker 1: from nine to twelve or fifteen or whatever, so you
Speaker 1: get to appoint all the justices and control it for
Speaker 1: the next two generations. Well, and then that whole you know,
Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ethics plan that we're promoting, would have
Speaker 1: Congress overseeing the Supreme Court and essentially ruling on when
Speaker 1: a justice could hear a case and when they couldn't.
Speaker 1: Oh please, It would obliterate the separation of the powers.
Speaker 1: You're running on the there's no such thing as free
Speaker 1: speech anymore because of the modern era on the Internet
Speaker 1: or something like that, and you need some sort of
Speaker 1: government boards to decide what is misinformation what is not.
Speaker 1: And then of course again the student loan thing or
Speaker 1: the open borders thing, he not enforcing the law right, right,
Speaker 1: It's probably worth mentioning, at least briefly. So Trump the
Speaker 1: other day was it on Fox. He had that quote
Speaker 1: about we have some very bad people. We have some
Speaker 1: sick people, radical left lunatics, and I think they it
Speaker 1: should be very easily handled by if necessary, the National Guard,
Speaker 1: if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let
Speaker 1: that happen. And of course the left seized on that
Speaker 1: to say Trump is going to use the military against
Speaker 1: his political opponents. As usual, Trump was sloppy and self defeating.
Speaker 1: It didn't finish his sentences, and the journal board talked
Speaker 1: to him, actually had him in and had a long
Speaker 1: conversation with him, and he made it clear he was
Speaker 1: talking about violent, violent demonstrators, your Antifa types, But of
Speaker 1: course he couldn't say that the first time for whatever
Speaker 1: reason anyway, because he was talking about civil unrest, not
Speaker 1: against people want to vote Democrat.
Speaker 2: I prefer this Trump run on the frime machine.
Speaker 6: And I'm going to take from these.
Speaker 5: Ones for this person partatiles correctless wisp you're tight?
Speaker 2: Is that assault on it?
Speaker 5: Never touches the human hand full? This guy's a good instructor.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give a really big.
Speaker 5: One so that he was pouring out of How good is.
Speaker 4: That Trump making the little cardboard thing full of fries.
Speaker 4: Never touches the human hand Get the salt on there? Okay,
Speaker 4: good and full? Oh my god, that is funny. That's
Speaker 4: classic presidential campaigning to just that sort of thing. It
Speaker 4: was way overblown on both sides all day, yes, say,
Speaker 4: and everything's overblown on social media on how awful and
Speaker 4: dumb it was or how important and and regular guy
Speaker 4: it was. And it's just it's it's what presidential campaigns
Speaker 4: have been doing forever, that sort of thing.
Speaker 2: Trump and the apron though, that was a pretty good visual.
Speaker 2: That is a good visual.
Speaker 1: I wanted to throw this in just real quickly because Jack,
Speaker 1: you brought up the whole misinformation and disinformation is reason
Speaker 1: for the government to censor only you know, untrue speech.
Speaker 1: And we mentioned this very very early in the show.
Speaker 1: It's a note from Rich in San Bruno, California, who
Speaker 1: took a group of high school students to the Soviet
Speaker 1: Union in nineteen seventy eight for a learning trip, which
Speaker 1: is an incredible opportunity.
Speaker 2: I wish I'd done something like that, And he.
Speaker 1: Said they got various publications and the tour guide assured
Speaker 1: them the contrary to American propaganda, the Soviet Union guarantees
Speaker 1: all citizens the right to free speech, and so Rich
Speaker 1: curiously he says, I asked our Soviet guide if that's true.
Speaker 1: Can I carry a sign to Red Square saying Lennard
Speaker 1: Brezhnev is a fool? His stern response, of course not.
Speaker 1: And then he explained that one may criticize something only
Speaker 1: if it's true. You cannot lie and say the leader
Speaker 1: is a fool. That would be he didn't say this,
Speaker 1: but misinformation, so that dodge among totalitarians. As I've been
Speaker 1: trying to tell you for a very long time, it's
Speaker 1: never changing.
Speaker 2: That's always the excuse.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or that speech that's dangerous to the public tranquility.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disturbing to me. I gotta believe in the.
Speaker 4: When it came to the Soviets or Sadam Hussein or
Speaker 4: Kim Jong un or whoever. When they're saying this, they
Speaker 4: know exactly what they're doing. I'm not gonna let you
Speaker 4: say anything bad about me. What bothers me about so
Speaker 4: many of the Democrats is they actually believe that they
Speaker 4: have the special wisdom to determine what are the real
Speaker 4: things and what are the not real things that should
Speaker 4: be allowed to be in the news.
Speaker 2: Right. Not only do they have.
Speaker 1: The knowledge, the intelligence, the data I mean, because I'm
Speaker 1: thinking about various COVID related controversies, not only do they
Speaker 1: have a lock on the world's scientific knowledge, they have
Speaker 1: the wisdom to know when and how to apply the
Speaker 1: censor's red pen, which is a hell of a boast
Speaker 1: because they're wrong on both freaking counts. And I despise
Speaker 1: them for even claiming it. And the woman who would
Speaker 1: be president is saying, and her veep is saying, no.
Speaker 2: We should be able to, you know, just cut out.
Speaker 1: Misinformation and disinformation and malinformation, which is again a dead
Speaker 1: giveaway that they're bamboozling you. They're throwing a bunch of
Speaker 1: terms around that don't actually mean anything.
Speaker 2: You brought this up last week.
Speaker 4: I think you're right though, the saying we need to
Speaker 4: find a way to stop misinformation, disinformation and malinformation is
Speaker 4: a bit of a signal to the fact that this
Speaker 4: is bs, isn't it The fact that you're using three
Speaker 4: different words that mean the same thing, making it seem
Speaker 4: like we're just so overwhelmed with a misinformation. Then you've
Speaker 4: got the disinformation, And then even if you get your
Speaker 4: arms around that, what about the mal information?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably a fancy Latin term for this, but
Speaker 1: I think it's the fallacy of false expertise.
Speaker 2: And you hear halfwits do this all the time.
Speaker 1: They throw around a bounch of fancy terms to make
Speaker 1: them come off as more knowledgeable than they really are.
Speaker 1: And in this topic, if somebody hears big words and
Speaker 1: words that seem to mean the same thing.
Speaker 2: But obviously I'm out of my depth here.
Speaker 1: They're experts on this, so I guess I'll defer to them.
Speaker 4: So I saw Ian Bremmer on the Twitter over the
Speaker 4: weekend with a warning about what it's going to look
Speaker 4: like after the election, and I think he's probably right
Speaker 4: that you.
Speaker 2: Ought to hear.
Speaker 4: I'm I don't know, I'm getting lots of dried food
Speaker 4: powdered water and cowered for you, and ammunition. I'm getting
Speaker 4: prepared for after the election.
Speaker 1: Dystopian healthcape oh obviously, neighbor on neighbor violence, cannibalism.
Speaker 2: Absolutely getting ready for that, among other things. We got
Speaker 2: on the waist to hear.
Speaker 5: There's a group called white Dudes for Harris. Have you
Speaker 5: seen this? White Dudes for Harris? Anybody know?
Speaker 6: Are some of you hear?
Speaker 1: White dudes?
Speaker 5: Doesn't sound like it, But I'm not worried about them
Speaker 5: at all because their wives and their wives lovers are.
Speaker 2: All voting for me.
Speaker 5: Every one of those people.
Speaker 1: In their lovers are all voting.
Speaker 2: Boy oh boy, my god. Now that's a shot.
Speaker 4: That's Trump at the Al Smith dinner and he brought
Speaker 4: up this topic and you weren't here when we discussed
Speaker 4: this on Thursday, and I want to have that conversation
Speaker 4: while you're here.
Speaker 2: Played this. I'd like to thank MC this evening. Jim Gaffigan.
Speaker 5: Most recently, Jim has been playing Tim Wilson Saturday Night Live.
Speaker 5: And that'll be a very short gig, I hope, Jim.
Speaker 5: But it was fun while at lasted, wasn't it.
Speaker 2: Let's see how that lasts.
Speaker 5: It'd better be quick. We don't want him, and I'm
Speaker 5: not gonna say anymore. But unfortunately Governor Waltz is in
Speaker 5: here himself. But don't worry, he'll.
Speaker 2: Say that he was.
Speaker 5: He's gonna say. I used to think that Democrats were
Speaker 5: crazy for saying that men have periods, but then I
Speaker 5: met Tim Wattz.
Speaker 2: So so I know, I know.
Speaker 4: I heard somebody bring this up, and we discussed it
Speaker 4: on Thursday when you were gone, when you abandoned the show.
Speaker 4: And it's time of need for your own pleasurement.
Speaker 2: It's just yes, but what's a pleasurement? It was yes.
Speaker 2: Tim Walls is.
Speaker 4: The man that has been portrayed to us in the
Speaker 4: media for the past several decades that we all been
Speaker 4: complaining about, kind of the dufest.
Speaker 2: Dad that you know, I'm a knucklehead.
Speaker 4: I can barely thank God for my wife that she
Speaker 4: can run the household and raise the kids, because I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of an idiot, a bumbling idiot who barely can.
Speaker 4: And that is then the guy that's portrayed to us
Speaker 4: in every sitcom, in every ad for decades now. Yeah,
Speaker 4: the Kevin James Homer Simpson archetype. Yeah, yeah, which is
Speaker 4: really not helped society any I don't think. And this
Speaker 4: was put in the context of why so many black
Speaker 4: men may be leaning toward Donald Trump and just the
Speaker 4: here's a guy. I mean, he deed like he's in charge,
Speaker 4: and he does what he wants and he seems to
Speaker 4: you know, he's a man. He's like a guy guy
Speaker 4: instead of a kind of a shame of being a
Speaker 4: guy and thank God for women to run my life
Speaker 4: for me and all that.
Speaker 2: Sort of stuff. And I'm a knucklehead at times. That
Speaker 2: is not very appealing as a man. Yeah, that makes
Speaker 2: perfect sense to me.
Speaker 1: It's a certain sort of emasculated, ashamed of being a
Speaker 1: man man that embraces.
Speaker 2: The Tim Walls archetype. And I'm not saying you.
Speaker 1: Need to be a hard ass or have three wives
Speaker 1: like Trump and Mary, a new model every fifteen years,
Speaker 1: or what have you. But yeah, that's that whole I
Speaker 1: apologize for masculinity, crowd. They'll never get my vote.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't hold Donald Trump up as my best
Speaker 4: example of how to be a human being, definitely, But
Speaker 4: the other side is certainly true, that kind of apologetic
Speaker 4: This is my better half.
Speaker 1: All the time. Fang just all right, we get it. Ah,
Speaker 1: that obsequious. You know, women are so much smarter than men. Huh,
Speaker 1: everybody knows, guy, Oh, you.
Speaker 2: Disgusted me, right.
Speaker 4: And they put together that ad that we played in
Speaker 4: mock last week with all the fake actors pretending to
Speaker 4: be mechanics and cowboys, all different stuff.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the real men for Harris ad, which featured roughly
Speaker 1: maybe half a real man.
Speaker 2: Uh huh, why the irony there? If Trump wins and
Speaker 2: he does get.
Speaker 4: A you can credit it to the chunk of like
Speaker 4: black men that he gets or Hispanic men he gets.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that The political scientists of the
Speaker 4: of America are going to be thinking about the remaking
Speaker 4: of the parties and where we're headed. This election is
Speaker 4: shaping up to have the biggest gender gap ever. I
Speaker 4: don't think that's good. But I can certainly understand why
Speaker 4: it's happening. We're gonna have one party that is way
Speaker 4: heavily male in one party, and you know which ones
Speaker 4: are which way heavily female in a way that it's
Speaker 4: never been before.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see that lasting. I hope you're right.
Speaker 1: It's because I don't think it's good. No, and honestly,
Speaker 1: and I could be biased. I think the Republican Party
Speaker 1: have a lot easier time adjusting its sales as the
Speaker 1: For instance, the moderate on abortion crowd is getting much
Speaker 1: more sway in the Republican Party. The Democrats have an
Speaker 1: enormous problem reigning in their woke far lefties.
Speaker 4: I thought it was ridiculous when they said men can
Speaker 4: get their periods, but then I met Tim wall Oh eh.
Speaker 2: E no, man eh, that's what he's saying.
Speaker 4: What's it gonna look like after the election. We got
Speaker 4: some inkling into that, among other things.
Speaker 1: On the way Armstrong and Geeddy, The.
Speaker 7: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has inducted a new
Speaker 7: class of legends. Sharon Dua Lipa shared the stage Saturday
Speaker 7: night at seventy eight. Share is the only woman to
Speaker 7: have a Billboard number one in each of the last
Speaker 7: seven decades. Other inductees included Dion Warwick Cooling the Gang
Speaker 7: and Peter Frampton Hard Rockers.
Speaker 4: Warwick Hard Rockers, Share, Dion Warwick cool In the Gang,
Speaker 4: All right, whatever I mean, check their papers.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just silly.
Speaker 1: Seventy eight year old Share was she still weren't assless pants.
Speaker 2: She's had a hit in each of the last seven decades.
Speaker 2: What was her hit this decade or last day?
Speaker 1: Came out some dance remimbers the chanthem yeah anyway, speaking
Speaker 1: of gender bending madness.
Speaker 2: I got this note from Rohtor. By the way, yes
Speaker 2: and no way. You weren't here on Thursday. This can wait?
Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Gloria Gaynor, who sings I Will Survive did
Speaker 1: not die?
Speaker 2: So who told me that? On Thursday?
Speaker 1: We went big on the death of Gloria Gaynor, played
Speaker 1: the song I Will Survive, et cetera, to talk about
Speaker 1: house yes, talk about how the biggest karaoke songs in
Speaker 1: America and all the zipper sort of stuff.
Speaker 2: She didn't die. I mentioned there's someone later and they said,
Speaker 2: Gloria Gaynor died. Are you sure?
Speaker 4: I said, I don't know. Somebody told me in my ear.
Speaker 4: I don't even remember who told me. Who told me, Katie, I.
Speaker 8: Don't know who told you, but it was Mitzi Ganner, Yes,
Speaker 8: Mitzi Gaynor, who is the star of South Pacific in
Speaker 8: the fifties or something.
Speaker 2: I don't even know that I may have told you.
Speaker 8: Everyone was very quick to find me on Twitter and
Speaker 8: let me know to let you know, but it was
Speaker 8: after the show.
Speaker 1: Yes, we can't kill off random celebrities. People have heard
Speaker 1: of them and in the name of the same last
Speaker 1: people who haven't died. Wow, got to hear some good
Speaker 1: music because of it the home If Hey, hey, Michael,
Speaker 1: if Frank o'harris dies today, don't telling me and my
Speaker 1: ear Kamala Harris is dead, all right?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 1: Yeah, different people check the first man anyway where we
Speaker 1: are We well, she will survive apparently for another day,
Speaker 1: although none of us does ultimately, don't forget.
Speaker 2: So got this note from rohtor guys.
Speaker 1: Four teams actually five now have recently forfeited their matches
Speaker 1: against San Jose State women's volleyball team because they have
Speaker 1: a dude.
Speaker 2: On their team.
Speaker 1: Trans women are men, which reminds me the hot dogs
Speaker 1: are dogs. T shirt is selling well at armstrong e
Speaker 1: Giddy dot com and I got shop.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that.
Speaker 1: It's a response to the brow beating propaganda phrase trans
Speaker 1: women are women.
Speaker 2: No they're not. No, they're not. Hot dogs are dogs Anyway,
Speaker 2: it's a joke.
Speaker 8: You let.
Speaker 2: My local team wrote a right.
Speaker 1: San Diego State went ahead and played its scheduled match
Speaker 1: on October tenth. Although San Diego State won, there's obviously
Speaker 1: no moral clarity and integrity in California. The San Diego
Speaker 1: State University administration has no interest in protecting women's and
Speaker 1: women and women's supports. Shame on them, I guess. According
Speaker 1: to the SDSU bureaucracy, hot dogs are dogs. Thank you
Speaker 1: for the note.
Speaker 4: So it kind of reminds me of the whole reparations
Speaker 4: thing where people keep running the legislation forward knowing it can't.
Speaker 2: End the way.
Speaker 4: They won't claim it's going to end, but they don't
Speaker 4: want to be the ones that get tagged with pulling
Speaker 4: the plug on it because they did bad from politically.
Speaker 4: It's got to be the same way at San Jose
Speaker 4: State State, right, they can't believe no, no, no, this
Speaker 4: will continue. Men will continue to participate in women's sports
Speaker 4: and dominat and everything like that.
Speaker 2: They know that that can't go.
Speaker 4: They just don't want to be the ones that pull
Speaker 4: the plug on it and get dinged for it. I
Speaker 4: can promise you there are people within San Diego State
Speaker 4: that in San Jose State that are as you describe,
Speaker 4: but I'm sure there are, But I think well, right, yeah,
Speaker 4: But I think the majority of.
Speaker 1: The people there on the campus are true believers. They
Speaker 1: believe they are doing the right thing because trans women
Speaker 1: are women and so they should be able to play
Speaker 1: the sports. They're cultists, they're delusional. They have been swept
Speaker 1: away by a radical theory, which I hope they will
Speaker 1: someday develop the sense to regret.
Speaker 2: Having said that, this is so.
Speaker 1: Amusing slash mystifying story from the Associated Press run on
Speaker 1: ESPN dot com.
Speaker 2: And I'm not going to read the whole thing to you.
Speaker 1: I wish I could, but I'll cheat and explain why
Speaker 1: I wanted to in a minute. But Mountain West Conference
Speaker 1: Commissioner Gloria never Is said Thursday the forfeitures that women's
Speaker 1: volleyball teams are willing to take to avoid playing San
Speaker 1: Jose State is quote not what we celebrate in college athletics,
Speaker 1: and that she is heartbroken over what has transpired this
Speaker 1: season surrounding the Spartans and their opponents. Four teams have
Speaker 1: canceled games as of a seventeenth Sana, Boise State, Southern Utah,
Speaker 1: you Tas State, and Wyoming, with none of the schools
Speaker 1: explicitly saying why they were forfeited, Yeah, which I hate.
Speaker 1: A group of Nevada players issued a statement saying they
Speaker 1: would not take the court, et cetera, et cetera. The
Speaker 1: players cited they're quote right to safety and fair competition,
Speaker 1: though their school reaffirmed Thursday that the match was still
Speaker 1: planned and that state law bars forfeits your quote for
Speaker 1: reasons related to gender identity or expression.
Speaker 2: Way did that state law?
Speaker 1: Yeah, in Nevada, there's a law that you can't forfeit
Speaker 1: if the other team has dudes on it. You made
Speaker 1: that a law? How did that become a law? Woke legislators.
Speaker 1: There are multiple blue states for that law. California, that's
Speaker 1: the law. Never as, that's the commissioner told the AP. Bah,
Speaker 1: it breaks my heart because they're human beings, young people,
Speaker 1: student athletes on both sides of the issue.
Speaker 2: Blah blah.
Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel right to me. And they go
Speaker 1: on for quite a ways on this story. People's reactions,
Speaker 1: their quotes, what Trump said saying Diego States, Uh, the
Speaker 1: statements on the they never once, not once, not once
Speaker 1: say the problem here is that San Diego State has
Speaker 1: a well I would put it guy on the team.
Speaker 1: They don't even say The problem is San Diego State
Speaker 1: has a transgender player. They never state this in the
Speaker 1: Associated Press article.
Speaker 2: Oh really, so you would, Yeah, that's funny.
Speaker 4: So if you didn't already know the backstory, you wouldn't
Speaker 4: have figured out what was going on.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd walk away from reading this entire article saying,
Speaker 2: what the hell are they talking about? Right? Wow? Why'd
Speaker 2: they forfeit? What is this article about? Isn't that terrible happen?
Speaker 2: It's just got to be cowardice.
Speaker 4: So that's why the because it was driving me crazy
Speaker 4: that these universities wouldn't make it clear why they forfeited.
Speaker 4: But they can't say why because it's against the laws
Speaker 4: some places.
Speaker 2: That's not yes, I'm saying thinking it over.
Speaker 1: I mean, the students could absolutely say I'm not playing
Speaker 1: with a dude on the court, although nobody has put
Speaker 1: it that plainly because in their generation that's a bridge
Speaker 1: too far. They know what they're supposed to say and
Speaker 1: what they're not supposed to say, but they don't want
Speaker 1: to be hitting the face by an eighty mile per
Speaker 1: hoor smash either, and other than Riley Gaines or some
Speaker 1: brave women who are standing up for women's rights.
Speaker 2: So they just and it takes it.
Speaker 1: It's absolutely an act of courage to cancel the game,
Speaker 1: to forfeit the game. But nobody's putting too fine a
Speaker 1: point on it at this point.
Speaker 4: And you'd be bringing a heap and helping of mess
Speaker 4: down on your head if you were to speak out
Speaker 4: about it as one of the students, and if you
Speaker 4: were the name attached to it. Sure, you're twenty one
Speaker 4: year old college girl. You just want to live your
Speaker 4: life and play volleyball. You don't need to be the
Speaker 4: face of trans resistance right social media would go ape
Speaker 4: pooh on you.
Speaker 1: One more quick note and this is so sad it's
Speaker 1: from the UK, or they're even further down the road
Speaker 1: to this.
Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is the Yeah.
Speaker 1: A seventeen year old autistic girl has been suspended for
Speaker 1: up to twelve matches for asking an adult transgender opponent
Speaker 1: are you a man?
Speaker 2: She was charged last month was saying are you a man?
Speaker 1: That's a man? During a preseason game in July. The
Speaker 1: girl admits asking a player she describes as having a beard,
Speaker 1: are you a man? She also admits asking the referee
Speaker 1: for guidance about the player's eligibility to participate in women's soccer.
Speaker 1: Quote given my concern for my safety after already suffering
Speaker 1: a number of physical challenges and injuries. So for this
Speaker 1: girl was autistic saying are you a man?
Speaker 2: That's a man?
Speaker 1: Because somebody claiming to be a woman who is clearly
Speaker 1: a man with a beard running around on the field
Speaker 1: putting her in danger? How are you not militant on
Speaker 1: this topic? America?
Speaker 2: What the hell? This is insanity? It really is. How
Speaker 2: about girl?
Speaker 4: How about the AP doing a whole story about San
Speaker 4: Diego State girls volleyball and not mentioning what the story is?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I mean it could just be the journalism.
Speaker 2: Is that terrible? Well maybe, but.
Speaker 1: It seems very inconvenient. Are very convenient given this the
Speaker 1: leanings of the AP to leave that out?
Speaker 2: Although how do you leave that out?
Speaker 1: That's the story, right, It's just all these vague clips
Speaker 1: about it's heartbreaking and nobody questions their safety.
Speaker 2: But ah blah blah blah. Yes, it's terrible.
Speaker 4: So what do you think is going to happen? Is
Speaker 4: the Spartans? Are they going to so when you when
Speaker 4: the other team's forfeit, you get a win?
Speaker 2: Yeah? So they are now are they now fourteen and zero.
Speaker 1: Now they've lost one game San Diego States in Yeah,
Speaker 1: so what's their record then with all the forfeit wins
Speaker 1: and the rent I don't have that in front of me.
Speaker 1: But so are they going to be like in the
Speaker 1: playoffs and then teams are forfeiting and then they march
Speaker 1: their way through the playoffs.
Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to win the conference almost certainly. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 2: for what it's worth.
Speaker 1: So here's here's a quote from San Jose State coach
Speaker 1: Todd Kress said playing the games was his team's safe
Speaker 1: haven and noticed that noted that security and police escorts
Speaker 1: are now involved when his team takes the court. I
Speaker 1: don't want that, you don't quote. I know this is
Speaker 1: all troubling. I know that it's definitely taking a toll
Speaker 1: on many of them. They're receiving messages of hate, which
Speaker 1: is completely ridiculous to me. Some of those people are
Speaker 1: the underbelloty of society. That you attack an eighteen, nineteen,
Speaker 1: twenty year old female, and even more so, if you're
Speaker 1: a parent, you're attacking these twenty year olds. Would you
Speaker 1: want your student athlete, your daughter to face the same
Speaker 1: kind of hate that you're dishing out well, no, of course,
Speaker 1: not anybody's dishing out hate to players is a bad person.
Speaker 1: But you have a dude on your team, coach Kress,
Speaker 1: So you have a dude on your women's volleyball team.
Speaker 1: Dressing up as a female, taking hormones as a female,
Speaker 1: getting your penis and testicles removed does not make you
Speaker 1: a woman.
Speaker 4: Zero excuse for anybody who's threatening violence or saying bad
Speaker 4: things that these of course it's not zero excuse, but
Speaker 4: you are foisting an incredible why on people and expecting
Speaker 4: them to like ignore it. Yeah, you have opened a
Speaker 4: Pandora's box of ugliness, which does not excuse the ugliness. Well, this,
Speaker 4: I assume this is going to blow up into a
Speaker 4: giant national story if they like win the conference and
Speaker 4: start marching through the playoffs.
Speaker 1: I don't know what's playoff, and I assume there's some
Speaker 1: big tournament.
Speaker 2: I assume so too, right, But I mean.
Speaker 4: If they're becoming like the representative for the western half
Speaker 4: of the United States for the national finals or something,
Speaker 4: I would think that would get some attention.
Speaker 1: If the AP doesn't even say, by the way, they
Speaker 1: get a transgender dude they're on the team, No, will
Speaker 1: not blow up into a giant story. It's too inconvenient
Speaker 1: for the left and they're wholly owned media.
Speaker 4: So election days two weeks from tomorrow, we are not
Speaker 4: going to know who the president is for quite some time,
Speaker 4: and what's going to happen those days afterwards? There's going
Speaker 4: to be something to watch, according to Ian Bremer, among others.
Speaker 4: That and who are the undecided voters? The New York
Speaker 4: Times knows because they looked into their own polling. That's
Speaker 4: pretty interesting too.
Speaker 2: All on the way, So Ian Bremer.
Speaker 4: Put this out over the weekend how he thinks this
Speaker 4: is going to play out over the next couple of weeks.
Speaker 6: So I'm not that worried about the weeks running up
Speaker 6: to the election that I'm very worried about the days
Speaker 6: and weeks after the election. There will be districts that
Speaker 6: don't certify the winner of the election because the elected
Speaker 6: officials don't like the outcome. There will be massive numbers
Speaker 6: of court cases. I think there will be intimidation in
Speaker 6: certain areas that'll try to stop certain people from voting.
Speaker 2: And I think that after the vote is done, there.
Speaker 6: Will be huge numbers of people that don't believe that
Speaker 6: it's true that believe it's rigged, and that's a dangerous
Speaker 6: place to be.
Speaker 2: I'm not talking about a civil war. I'm not talking
Speaker 2: about the USB. Oh what, why don't we have the
Speaker 2: whole thing? The pending part is the best part. Why
Speaker 2: did we okay, all right, just petered out in an
Speaker 2: odd way? Well it didn't.
Speaker 4: Actually, it ended with the punchline of the whole thing
Speaker 4: that we need to be prepared for something that we
Speaker 4: have never seen before in this country in terms of
Speaker 4: the unrest around a presidential election.
Speaker 2: And I think that is almost certainly the case.
Speaker 4: He didn't specifically say that he thinks it's going to be,
Speaker 4: you know, on the Republican side. I'll bet he thinks that,
Speaker 4: but I think it could be on either or both sides. Yeah,
Speaker 4: both sides have played fast and loose with.
Speaker 1: You know, the fidelity of the ballot, people's faith in
Speaker 1: the electoral process to their own game. Trump gets the
Speaker 1: most attention for it, and actually he said things that
Speaker 1: I think were indefensible and terrible and irresponsible a little.
Speaker 2: But the left does it constantly.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and there are plenty of Democrats that wouldn't
Speaker 4: vote to certify various things it just didn't get as
Speaker 4: much attention because it wasn't going to make a difference.
Speaker 4: But yeah, so I'm not looking forward to this. I
Speaker 4: hope it's just something we need to go through and
Speaker 4: we'll get back on track. Or it's part of the
Speaker 4: degeneration of a democracy that has happened with every other
Speaker 4: democracy that's ever existed on Earth and then it falls apart.
Speaker 4: So it's all going to be determined by undecided voters.
Speaker 4: We all know that it's uh, we're split fifty to
Speaker 4: fifty as a nation for people who've made up their mind,
Speaker 4: and then you only got seven states that could possibly
Speaker 4: go either way at this point. The New York Times
Speaker 4: talked to people inside the Harris and Trump campaigns who
Speaker 4: have spent a ton of money. I mean, if anybody
Speaker 4: knows these people know, they've got gazillions of dollars at
Speaker 4: stake on figuring out who's an undecided voter?
Speaker 2: Where are they and then how do.
Speaker 4: We persuade them both campaigns And they talk to The
Speaker 4: New York Times off the record about that. So the
Speaker 4: belief is there are about three point seven percent of
Speaker 4: the voters spread over the seven states, which totals one
Speaker 4: point two million people spread out over seven states that
Speaker 4: are truly undecided, like, actually, two weeks out, don't know
Speaker 4: who they're going to vote for. I know for most
Speaker 4: of us, that makes no sense whatsoever. We can't even
Speaker 4: imagine how you would be that person. The Times analysis
Speaker 4: closely mirrored what the campaigns describe, a group heavy on
Speaker 4: younger voters, people of color, and those without college degree.
Speaker 4: Black voters make up about twenty one percent of the
Speaker 4: undecided group, which explains why miss Harris's explicit push for
Speaker 4: them over the last couple of weeks, going on various
Speaker 4: shows talking about various things or some of the things
Speaker 4: Trump has been saying.
Speaker 2: I suppose I wanted to jump down to this.
Speaker 4: Internal surveys showed that about two thirds of undecided voters
Speaker 4: in the battleground states had consumed at least some of
Speaker 4: Kamala Harris's interviews last week, but in a sign of
Speaker 4: the fragmented media environment under underscoring the challenge, no single
Speaker 4: program reached more than one in three of those undecided voters.
Speaker 4: So things aren't the way they used to be, where
Speaker 4: you would have the sixty minutes interview or you know,
Speaker 4: the debate or the evening newscast or the one newspaper.
Speaker 4: Everything's so fragmented it's hard to reach these people. So
Speaker 4: that's another added layer of something different than it has
Speaker 4: ever existed before.
Speaker 1: And I believe you said that they saw at least
Speaker 1: some portion, meaning it might have just been curated the.
Speaker 4: Lightfully selected clips. Actually, I'll bet you're exactly right. They
Speaker 4: saw a couple of highlights put out by whoever is
Speaker 4: trying to make her look good or look bad. They
Speaker 4: were probably misleading, in fact, almost certainly. To talk to them,
Speaker 4: we have to take a layered approach. We have to
Speaker 4: be on TV, non traditional platforms, door knocking, billboards, digital ads, mail, everything,
Speaker 4: really to have a chance of reaching these possible persuadables.
Speaker 4: Lower educated taking in their news through social media haven't
Speaker 4: made up their mind. I can't even imagine as a
Speaker 4: political science. Is how you think you're going to convince
Speaker 4: them with fifteen days to go.
Speaker 1: I don't know either, but it's it's increasingly clear to
Speaker 1: me the undecided voter is the they both suck and
Speaker 1: I hate them, and I can't decide which one I
Speaker 1: hate less crowd, that's my guess. And then how are
Speaker 1: they going to make up their mind on election day.
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