1 00:00:01,920 --> 00:00:06,240 Speaker 1: Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio the George 2 00:00:06,280 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: Washington Broadcast Center. 3 00:00:07,880 --> 00:00:12,559 Speaker 2: Jack Armstrong is Joe Ketty Armstrong and Jattie and he 4 00:00:15,480 --> 00:00:17,360 Speaker 2: Armstrong and Yetty. 5 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,000 Speaker 3: When you talk about rhetoric, gotta remember they tried to 6 00:00:27,000 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 3: blow his head off. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 2: There's one candidate. 8 00:00:29,880 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 3: In this race who's been shot at and hit in 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:36,600 Speaker 3: the ear and we're lucky they didn't blow his head off. 10 00:00:36,880 --> 00:00:39,120 Speaker 3: And another guy tried to kill him the next week. 11 00:00:39,440 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 3: So I'm not overly impressed about the rhetoric game here. 12 00:00:43,120 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 2: The rhetoric they're speaking of. That's Lindsey Grahama. 13 00:00:45,520 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 4: One of the talk shows yesterday, every one of your 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,559 Speaker 4: Sunday talk shows that none of you watched, and good 15 00:00:49,600 --> 00:00:53,279 Speaker 4: for you, was focused on some things Trump said at 16 00:00:53,320 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 4: his rally over the weekend. Last hour, we played the 17 00:00:55,880 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 4: comments about Arnold Palmer's genitalia, which you. 18 00:01:01,360 --> 00:01:04,679 Speaker 1: Had Arnie's genitals on your bingo card. Congratulations. 19 00:01:04,720 --> 00:01:07,000 Speaker 4: It was fifteen seconds of an hour and a half rally. 20 00:01:07,040 --> 00:01:11,960 Speaker 4: It is coarse and unneeded, but you know whatever. And 21 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:14,840 Speaker 4: also this is some of the course Rderick they were 22 00:01:14,880 --> 00:01:15,360 Speaker 4: referring to. 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 5: So you have to tell Kamala Harris that You've had 24 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 5: enough that you just. 25 00:01:20,600 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Can't take it anymore. We can't stand you. Your ash 26 00:01:25,440 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: vice president. 27 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 6: The worst, You're. 28 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:34,200 Speaker 5: The worst vice president, Kamala, you fired, get. 29 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:37,479 Speaker 2: That fired, Get out of here. 30 00:01:37,800 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 4: You're an S vice president. I don't know if it 31 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 4: was that rally or a different rally where he said. 32 00:01:42,959 --> 00:01:47,520 Speaker 1: Everything the Democrats touch turns to setting up the crowd. 33 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 2: Nail went s bomb like spit. 34 00:01:53,400 --> 00:01:57,240 Speaker 4: Oh, this is al them a column response running for 35 00:01:57,320 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 4: president of the United States. So than every Republican that 36 00:02:02,360 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 4: was on all the talk shows yesterday had to defend 37 00:02:04,720 --> 00:02:06,800 Speaker 4: the Arnold Palmer's junk. 38 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:09,480 Speaker 2: Callin Kamala Harris. 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 1: S, Wow, you know, I don't think saying what he 40 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:17,519 Speaker 1: said that elevates the discussion. 41 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:20,120 Speaker 2: I prefer the eloquence of Thomas Jefferson. 42 00:02:20,480 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: But the idea that I would have to go on 43 00:02:22,120 --> 00:02:23,920 Speaker 1: a talk show and like defend it and talk. 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 2: About it for a while, I don't know. 45 00:02:25,480 --> 00:02:25,840 Speaker 1: Ask him. 46 00:02:25,960 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 2: He called her an S vice president. That's kind of funny. 47 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: So the Wall Street Journal has their editorial board wrote 48 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 4: a thing today about who's a fascist and who's not. 49 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: And I heard it portrayed on MSNBC and was misled, 50 00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:43,519 Speaker 4: which is not surprising because. 51 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 2: Wall Street Journal I read it. What did they say 52 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 2: on MSNBC? 53 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: They were disgusted that the Wall Street Journal referring to 54 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,600 Speaker 4: Democrats and Biden as a fascist and giving Trump a 55 00:02:54,680 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 4: pass when they actually have like seven paragraphs explaining why 56 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 4: they preferred any other Republican candidate that existed to Trump, 57 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 4: and that January sixth was abhorrence, et cetera. 58 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: Et cetera, et cetera. Right, Yeah, but giving him a pass. 59 00:03:07,720 --> 00:03:08,160 Speaker 2: Far from it. 60 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,160 Speaker 4: But the point being, and we've talked about this a lot, 61 00:03:10,200 --> 00:03:14,720 Speaker 4: I'll jump down to this. Another reason that many Americans 62 00:03:14,760 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 4: don't think Trump is a unique threat to democracy if 63 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:21,160 Speaker 4: they've seen Democrats break all sorts of political norms. 64 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:21,639 Speaker 2: To defeat him. 65 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:25,680 Speaker 4: Democrats exploited the Russia collusion narrative in twenty sixteen until 66 00:03:25,680 --> 00:03:28,880 Speaker 4: it was exposed as a lie financed by Hillary Clinton's campaign. 67 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 4: Democrats tried to keep mister Trump off the presidential ballot 68 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,640 Speaker 4: this year. Democrats have used the law in no fewer 69 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:38,080 Speaker 4: than five cases to disqualify him, and New York's Attorney 70 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 4: general campaign explicitly promised to find something anything to charge 71 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:45,480 Speaker 4: him with. This subverts a basic principle of American Justice Democrats, I. 72 00:03:45,520 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: Might interject very briefly, Democrats tried desperately to get to 73 00:03:50,600 --> 00:03:53,280 Speaker 1: RFK Junior off of the ballot in several states. And 74 00:03:53,280 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 1: then when he got on the ballot, because all the 75 00:03:55,320 --> 00:03:57,200 Speaker 1: judges said, what are you doing? Of course he can 76 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:01,160 Speaker 1: be on the ballot, excuse me. And when he withdrew. 77 00:04:01,360 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: Now they're turn trying desperately to keep him on the 78 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,520 Speaker 1: ballot even though he's withdrawn, to divide the votes. Oh, 79 00:04:07,560 --> 00:04:10,000 Speaker 1: please save your fake principles for somebody else. 80 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: Democrats, including Ms Harris, are also candidate saying they want 81 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 4: to compromise the independence of the Supreme Court with new 82 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:19,160 Speaker 4: political rules and supervision, you know, pack the court, get 83 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:21,200 Speaker 4: rid of the filibuster. Even if they get a narrow 84 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:23,120 Speaker 4: control of the Senate along with the House and White House. 85 00:04:23,160 --> 00:04:25,919 Speaker 4: They say they will break the sixty vote filibuster to 86 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:28,920 Speaker 4: do that. That, in our view, is a greater threat 87 00:04:28,960 --> 00:04:31,480 Speaker 4: to the Constitution than anything mister Trump might be able 88 00:04:31,520 --> 00:04:33,560 Speaker 4: to do in a second term. All of which is 89 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:35,520 Speaker 4: to say that the fear of fascism would have more 90 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 4: credibility if Democrats didn't abuse power themselves. If they lose 91 00:04:39,120 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 4: the election against a flawed mister Trump. It won't be 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: because he's a want to be Mussolini. The reason will 93 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 4: be the Biden Harris record. They also mentioned, because I 94 00:04:48,000 --> 00:04:50,480 Speaker 4: saw an interview about this over the weekend. How about 95 00:04:50,520 --> 00:04:53,719 Speaker 4: Biden's trying to bail out all the college student loans 96 00:04:53,800 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 4: clearly illegal. Tried to push it through getting around the 97 00:04:57,520 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 4: Supreme Court over and over again. 98 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:01,760 Speaker 2: And it's not an either or. 99 00:05:01,800 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: Trump does all kinds of things that I think says 100 00:05:03,960 --> 00:05:06,960 Speaker 1: and does things that I think are awful. But don't 101 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:11,039 Speaker 1: pretend that there's only one side that tries to use 102 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: their power to accomplish anything they can. 103 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 2: Come on, that's ridiculous. 104 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: You're going to you're going to expand the Supreme Court 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,359 Speaker 1: from nine to twelve or fifteen or whatever, so you 106 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 1: get to appoint all the justices and control it for 107 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:28,040 Speaker 1: the next two generations. Well, and then that whole you know, 108 00:05:28,279 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court ethics plan that we're promoting, would have 109 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:36,279 Speaker 1: Congress overseeing the Supreme Court and essentially ruling on when 110 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: a justice could hear a case and when they couldn't. 111 00:05:38,560 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: Oh please, It would obliterate the separation of the powers. 112 00:05:42,640 --> 00:05:44,920 Speaker 1: You're running on the there's no such thing as free 113 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 1: speech anymore because of the modern era on the Internet 114 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: or something like that, and you need some sort of 115 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,520 Speaker 1: government boards to decide what is misinformation what is not. 116 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:56,039 Speaker 1: And then of course again the student loan thing or 117 00:05:56,120 --> 00:06:02,960 Speaker 1: the open borders thing, he not enforcing the law right, right, 118 00:06:03,839 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: It's probably worth mentioning, at least briefly. So Trump the 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 1: other day was it on Fox. He had that quote 120 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:12,360 Speaker 1: about we have some very bad people. We have some 121 00:06:12,440 --> 00:06:15,640 Speaker 1: sick people, radical left lunatics, and I think they it 122 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: should be very easily handled by if necessary, the National Guard, 123 00:06:18,800 --> 00:06:21,359 Speaker 1: if really necessary, by the military, because they can't let 124 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: that happen. And of course the left seized on that 125 00:06:24,160 --> 00:06:26,239 Speaker 1: to say Trump is going to use the military against 126 00:06:26,279 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 1: his political opponents. As usual, Trump was sloppy and self defeating. 127 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 1: It didn't finish his sentences, and the journal board talked 128 00:06:34,920 --> 00:06:36,920 Speaker 1: to him, actually had him in and had a long 129 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:39,760 Speaker 1: conversation with him, and he made it clear he was 130 00:06:39,800 --> 00:06:44,960 Speaker 1: talking about violent, violent demonstrators, your Antifa types, But of 131 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,160 Speaker 1: course he couldn't say that the first time for whatever 132 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,719 Speaker 1: reason anyway, because he was talking about civil unrest, not 133 00:06:50,760 --> 00:06:52,599 Speaker 1: against people want to vote Democrat. 134 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 2: I prefer this Trump run on the frime machine. 135 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 6: And I'm going to take from these. 136 00:06:56,200 --> 00:07:02,360 Speaker 5: Ones for this person partatiles correctless wisp you're tight? 137 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:08,640 Speaker 2: Is that assault on it? 138 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: Never touches the human hand full? This guy's a good instructor. 139 00:07:13,560 --> 00:07:14,120 Speaker 5: I appreciate it. 140 00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:16,360 Speaker 2: I'm going to give a really big. 141 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,560 Speaker 5: One so that he was pouring out of How good is. 142 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 4: That Trump making the little cardboard thing full of fries. 143 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 4: Never touches the human hand Get the salt on there? Okay, 144 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 4: good and full? Oh my god, that is funny. That's 145 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 4: classic presidential campaigning to just that sort of thing. It 146 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 4: was way overblown on both sides all day, yes, say, 147 00:07:42,240 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 4: and everything's overblown on social media on how awful and 148 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 4: dumb it was or how important and and regular guy 149 00:07:50,560 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 4: it was. And it's just it's it's what presidential campaigns 150 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 4: have been doing forever, that sort of thing. 151 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 2: Trump and the apron though, that was a pretty good visual. 152 00:07:58,360 --> 00:07:59,200 Speaker 2: That is a good visual. 153 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:01,920 Speaker 1: I wanted to throw this in just real quickly because Jack, 154 00:08:01,960 --> 00:08:05,880 Speaker 1: you brought up the whole misinformation and disinformation is reason 155 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:09,520 Speaker 1: for the government to censor only you know, untrue speech. 156 00:08:10,880 --> 00:08:12,760 Speaker 1: And we mentioned this very very early in the show. 157 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: It's a note from Rich in San Bruno, California, who 158 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:20,000 Speaker 1: took a group of high school students to the Soviet 159 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,640 Speaker 1: Union in nineteen seventy eight for a learning trip, which 160 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 1: is an incredible opportunity. 161 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 2: I wish I'd done something like that, And he. 162 00:08:26,840 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: Said they got various publications and the tour guide assured 163 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:36,720 Speaker 1: them the contrary to American propaganda, the Soviet Union guarantees 164 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: all citizens the right to free speech, and so Rich 165 00:08:40,160 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 1: curiously he says, I asked our Soviet guide if that's true. 166 00:08:43,920 --> 00:08:46,360 Speaker 1: Can I carry a sign to Red Square saying Lennard 167 00:08:46,400 --> 00:08:50,000 Speaker 1: Brezhnev is a fool? His stern response, of course not. 168 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: And then he explained that one may criticize something only 169 00:08:54,800 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 1: if it's true. You cannot lie and say the leader 170 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:01,840 Speaker 1: is a fool. That would be he didn't say this, 171 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:06,960 Speaker 1: but misinformation, so that dodge among totalitarians. As I've been 172 00:09:07,000 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: trying to tell you for a very long time, it's 173 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:10,439 Speaker 1: never changing. 174 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:12,599 Speaker 2: That's always the excuse. 175 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:17,319 Speaker 1: Yeah, or that speech that's dangerous to the public tranquility. 176 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's disturbing to me. I gotta believe in the. 177 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:26,280 Speaker 4: When it came to the Soviets or Sadam Hussein or 178 00:09:26,360 --> 00:09:29,079 Speaker 4: Kim Jong un or whoever. When they're saying this, they 179 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 4: know exactly what they're doing. I'm not gonna let you 180 00:09:31,000 --> 00:09:33,160 Speaker 4: say anything bad about me. What bothers me about so 181 00:09:33,240 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: many of the Democrats is they actually believe that they 182 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 4: have the special wisdom to determine what are the real 183 00:09:40,880 --> 00:09:43,640 Speaker 4: things and what are the not real things that should 184 00:09:43,640 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 4: be allowed to be in the news. 185 00:09:45,960 --> 00:09:47,400 Speaker 2: Right. Not only do they have. 186 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: The knowledge, the intelligence, the data I mean, because I'm 187 00:09:53,480 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: thinking about various COVID related controversies, not only do they 188 00:09:57,160 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: have a lock on the world's scientific knowledge, they have 189 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: the wisdom to know when and how to apply the 190 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:10,400 Speaker 1: censor's red pen, which is a hell of a boast 191 00:10:10,800 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: because they're wrong on both freaking counts. And I despise 192 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:17,080 Speaker 1: them for even claiming it. And the woman who would 193 00:10:17,120 --> 00:10:20,920 Speaker 1: be president is saying, and her veep is saying, no. 194 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 2: We should be able to, you know, just cut out. 195 00:10:24,000 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: Misinformation and disinformation and malinformation, which is again a dead 196 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: giveaway that they're bamboozling you. They're throwing a bunch of 197 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:34,360 Speaker 1: terms around that don't actually mean anything. 198 00:10:37,920 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 2: You brought this up last week. 199 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 4: I think you're right though, the saying we need to 200 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 4: find a way to stop misinformation, disinformation and malinformation is 201 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,520 Speaker 4: a bit of a signal to the fact that this 202 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 4: is bs, isn't it The fact that you're using three 203 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 4: different words that mean the same thing, making it seem 204 00:10:55,360 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 4: like we're just so overwhelmed with a misinformation. Then you've 205 00:10:58,280 --> 00:11:00,320 Speaker 4: got the disinformation, And then even if you get your 206 00:11:00,400 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 4: arms around that, what about the mal information? 207 00:11:03,040 --> 00:11:05,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's probably a fancy Latin term for this, but 208 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 1: I think it's the fallacy of false expertise. 209 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: And you hear halfwits do this all the time. 210 00:11:11,160 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 1: They throw around a bounch of fancy terms to make 211 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,400 Speaker 1: them come off as more knowledgeable than they really are. 212 00:11:16,840 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 1: And in this topic, if somebody hears big words and 213 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:21,880 Speaker 1: words that seem to mean the same thing. 214 00:11:21,920 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 2: But obviously I'm out of my depth here. 215 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: They're experts on this, so I guess I'll defer to them. 216 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:32,800 Speaker 4: So I saw Ian Bremmer on the Twitter over the 217 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: weekend with a warning about what it's going to look 218 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:37,240 Speaker 4: like after the election, and I think he's probably right 219 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:37,559 Speaker 4: that you. 220 00:11:37,520 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 2: Ought to hear. 221 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:42,080 Speaker 4: I'm I don't know, I'm getting lots of dried food 222 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:52,679 Speaker 4: powdered water and cowered for you, and ammunition. I'm getting 223 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:54,200 Speaker 4: prepared for after the election. 224 00:11:54,679 --> 00:12:00,359 Speaker 1: Dystopian healthcape oh obviously, neighbor on neighbor violence, cannibalism. 225 00:12:00,320 --> 00:12:02,800 Speaker 2: Absolutely getting ready for that, among other things. We got 226 00:12:02,840 --> 00:12:06,960 Speaker 2: on the waist to hear. 227 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,800 Speaker 5: There's a group called white Dudes for Harris. Have you 228 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:12,520 Speaker 5: seen this? White Dudes for Harris? Anybody know? 229 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:13,720 Speaker 6: Are some of you hear? 230 00:12:13,800 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: White dudes? 231 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 5: Doesn't sound like it, But I'm not worried about them 232 00:12:17,760 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 5: at all because their wives and their wives lovers are. 233 00:12:22,400 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 2: All voting for me. 234 00:12:26,880 --> 00:12:28,559 Speaker 5: Every one of those people. 235 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: In their lovers are all voting. 236 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 2: Boy oh boy, my god. Now that's a shot. 237 00:12:37,960 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 4: That's Trump at the Al Smith dinner and he brought 238 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 4: up this topic and you weren't here when we discussed 239 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:45,480 Speaker 4: this on Thursday, and I want to have that conversation 240 00:12:45,520 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 4: while you're here. 241 00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 2: Played this. I'd like to thank MC this evening. Jim Gaffigan. 242 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 5: Most recently, Jim has been playing Tim Wilson Saturday Night Live. 243 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 5: And that'll be a very short gig, I hope, Jim. 244 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 5: But it was fun while at lasted, wasn't it. 245 00:13:04,360 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 2: Let's see how that lasts. 246 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:09,760 Speaker 5: It'd better be quick. We don't want him, and I'm 247 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:13,079 Speaker 5: not gonna say anymore. But unfortunately Governor Waltz is in 248 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 5: here himself. But don't worry, he'll. 249 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:16,960 Speaker 2: Say that he was. 250 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 5: He's gonna say. I used to think that Democrats were 251 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 5: crazy for saying that men have periods, but then I 252 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 5: met Tim Wattz. 253 00:13:31,480 --> 00:13:34,319 Speaker 2: So so I know, I know. 254 00:13:34,559 --> 00:13:37,440 Speaker 4: I heard somebody bring this up, and we discussed it 255 00:13:37,480 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 4: on Thursday when you were gone, when you abandoned the show. 256 00:13:39,840 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 4: And it's time of need for your own pleasurement. 257 00:13:42,200 --> 00:13:45,960 Speaker 2: It's just yes, but what's a pleasurement? It was yes. 258 00:13:46,320 --> 00:13:48,439 Speaker 2: Tim Walls is. 259 00:13:50,360 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 4: The man that has been portrayed to us in the 260 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:55,600 Speaker 4: media for the past several decades that we all been 261 00:13:55,640 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 4: complaining about, kind of the dufest. 262 00:13:57,679 --> 00:13:59,000 Speaker 2: Dad that you know, I'm a knucklehead. 263 00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 4: I can barely thank God for my wife that she 264 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 4: can run the household and raise the kids, because I'm 265 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,719 Speaker 4: just kind of an idiot, a bumbling idiot who barely can. 266 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:08,840 Speaker 4: And that is then the guy that's portrayed to us 267 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:12,480 Speaker 4: in every sitcom, in every ad for decades now. Yeah, 268 00:14:12,600 --> 00:14:16,680 Speaker 4: the Kevin James Homer Simpson archetype. Yeah, yeah, which is 269 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 4: really not helped society any I don't think. And this 270 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 4: was put in the context of why so many black 271 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 4: men may be leaning toward Donald Trump and just the 272 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 4: here's a guy. I mean, he deed like he's in charge, 273 00:14:32,760 --> 00:14:34,400 Speaker 4: and he does what he wants and he seems to 274 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:36,680 Speaker 4: you know, he's a man. He's like a guy guy 275 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:38,360 Speaker 4: instead of a kind of a shame of being a 276 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,640 Speaker 4: guy and thank God for women to run my life 277 00:14:40,720 --> 00:14:41,560 Speaker 4: for me and all that. 278 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 2: Sort of stuff. And I'm a knucklehead at times. That 279 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: is not very appealing as a man. Yeah, that makes 280 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,040 Speaker 2: perfect sense to me. 281 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: It's a certain sort of emasculated, ashamed of being a 282 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: man man that embraces. 283 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:56,680 Speaker 2: The Tim Walls archetype. And I'm not saying you. 284 00:14:56,640 --> 00:14:58,960 Speaker 1: Need to be a hard ass or have three wives 285 00:14:58,960 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: like Trump and Mary, a new model every fifteen years, 286 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,320 Speaker 1: or what have you. But yeah, that's that whole I 287 00:15:04,400 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 1: apologize for masculinity, crowd. They'll never get my vote. 288 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:08,400 Speaker 2: All right. 289 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 4: No, I wouldn't hold Donald Trump up as my best 290 00:15:11,160 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 4: example of how to be a human being, definitely, But 291 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 4: the other side is certainly true, that kind of apologetic 292 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 4: This is my better half. 293 00:15:20,920 --> 00:15:26,560 Speaker 1: All the time. Fang just all right, we get it. Ah, 294 00:15:26,920 --> 00:15:32,800 Speaker 1: that obsequious. You know, women are so much smarter than men. Huh, 295 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: everybody knows, guy, Oh, you. 296 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 2: Disgusted me, right. 297 00:15:37,400 --> 00:15:39,720 Speaker 4: And they put together that ad that we played in 298 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,920 Speaker 4: mock last week with all the fake actors pretending to 299 00:15:42,960 --> 00:15:46,440 Speaker 4: be mechanics and cowboys, all different stuff. 300 00:15:46,720 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, the real men for Harris ad, which featured roughly 301 00:15:50,800 --> 00:15:52,040 Speaker 1: maybe half a real man. 302 00:15:52,240 --> 00:15:56,440 Speaker 2: Uh huh, why the irony there? If Trump wins and 303 00:15:56,560 --> 00:15:57,720 Speaker 2: he does get. 304 00:15:57,440 --> 00:16:01,440 Speaker 4: A you can credit it to the chunk of like 305 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:04,240 Speaker 4: black men that he gets or Hispanic men he gets. 306 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: I don't know. 307 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,360 Speaker 4: I don't know what that The political scientists of the 308 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,800 Speaker 4: of America are going to be thinking about the remaking 309 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,480 Speaker 4: of the parties and where we're headed. This election is 310 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,720 Speaker 4: shaping up to have the biggest gender gap ever. I 311 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,120 Speaker 4: don't think that's good. But I can certainly understand why 312 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:23,160 Speaker 4: it's happening. We're gonna have one party that is way 313 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 4: heavily male in one party, and you know which ones 314 00:16:25,480 --> 00:16:27,840 Speaker 4: are which way heavily female in a way that it's 315 00:16:27,880 --> 00:16:28,720 Speaker 4: never been before. 316 00:16:29,560 --> 00:16:31,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't see that lasting. I hope you're right. 317 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:36,560 Speaker 1: It's because I don't think it's good. No, and honestly, 318 00:16:36,600 --> 00:16:39,400 Speaker 1: and I could be biased. I think the Republican Party 319 00:16:39,480 --> 00:16:42,560 Speaker 1: have a lot easier time adjusting its sales as the 320 00:16:43,000 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: For instance, the moderate on abortion crowd is getting much 321 00:16:46,240 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 1: more sway in the Republican Party. The Democrats have an 322 00:16:50,360 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: enormous problem reigning in their woke far lefties. 323 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 4: I thought it was ridiculous when they said men can 324 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 4: get their periods, but then I met Tim wall Oh eh. 325 00:17:03,440 --> 00:17:06,639 Speaker 2: E no, man eh, that's what he's saying. 326 00:17:06,920 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 4: What's it gonna look like after the election. We got 327 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 4: some inkling into that, among other things. 328 00:17:11,840 --> 00:17:17,240 Speaker 1: On the way Armstrong and Geeddy, The. 329 00:17:17,280 --> 00:17:19,520 Speaker 7: Rock and Roll Hall of Fame has inducted a new 330 00:17:19,560 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 7: class of legends. Sharon Dua Lipa shared the stage Saturday 331 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:25,720 Speaker 7: night at seventy eight. Share is the only woman to 332 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 7: have a Billboard number one in each of the last 333 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:32,359 Speaker 7: seven decades. Other inductees included Dion Warwick Cooling the Gang 334 00:17:32,480 --> 00:17:35,640 Speaker 7: and Peter Frampton Hard Rockers. 335 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 4: Warwick Hard Rockers, Share, Dion Warwick cool In the Gang, 336 00:17:42,960 --> 00:17:46,480 Speaker 4: All right, whatever I mean, check their papers. 337 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just silly. 338 00:17:48,680 --> 00:17:52,359 Speaker 1: Seventy eight year old Share was she still weren't assless pants. 339 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,680 Speaker 2: She's had a hit in each of the last seven decades. 340 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,840 Speaker 2: What was her hit this decade or last day? 341 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 1: Came out some dance remimbers the chanthem yeah anyway, speaking 342 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:04,800 Speaker 1: of gender bending madness. 343 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 2: I got this note from Rohtor. By the way, yes 344 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 2: and no way. You weren't here on Thursday. This can wait? 345 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: Yes, sir, Gloria Gaynor, who sings I Will Survive did 346 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:15,920 Speaker 1: not die? 347 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 2: So who told me that? On Thursday? 348 00:18:17,920 --> 00:18:20,200 Speaker 1: We went big on the death of Gloria Gaynor, played 349 00:18:20,240 --> 00:18:23,320 Speaker 1: the song I Will Survive, et cetera, to talk about 350 00:18:23,400 --> 00:18:27,480 Speaker 1: house yes, talk about how the biggest karaoke songs in 351 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,159 Speaker 1: America and all the zipper sort of stuff. 352 00:18:29,240 --> 00:18:32,200 Speaker 2: She didn't die. I mentioned there's someone later and they said, 353 00:18:32,240 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 2: Gloria Gaynor died. Are you sure? 354 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 4: I said, I don't know. Somebody told me in my ear. 355 00:18:36,040 --> 00:18:38,800 Speaker 4: I don't even remember who told me. Who told me, Katie, I. 356 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:41,840 Speaker 8: Don't know who told you, but it was Mitzi Ganner, Yes, 357 00:18:42,000 --> 00:18:45,359 Speaker 8: Mitzi Gaynor, who is the star of South Pacific in 358 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 8: the fifties or something. 359 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,199 Speaker 2: I don't even know that I may have told you. 360 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,760 Speaker 8: Everyone was very quick to find me on Twitter and 361 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:53,399 Speaker 8: let me know to let you know, but it was 362 00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,160 Speaker 8: after the show. 363 00:18:54,280 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 1: Yes, we can't kill off random celebrities. People have heard 364 00:18:57,119 --> 00:18:59,960 Speaker 1: of them and in the name of the same last 365 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:04,960 Speaker 1: people who haven't died. Wow, got to hear some good 366 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,280 Speaker 1: music because of it the home If Hey, hey, Michael, 367 00:19:07,320 --> 00:19:09,879 Speaker 1: if Frank o'harris dies today, don't telling me and my 368 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: ear Kamala Harris is dead, all right? 369 00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:12,400 Speaker 2: Okay? 370 00:19:13,240 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, different people check the first man anyway where we 371 00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: are We well, she will survive apparently for another day, 372 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:25,240 Speaker 1: although none of us does ultimately, don't forget. 373 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 2: So got this note from rohtor guys. 374 00:19:26,359 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: Four teams actually five now have recently forfeited their matches 375 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:32,639 Speaker 1: against San Jose State women's volleyball team because they have 376 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: a dude. 377 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:34,240 Speaker 2: On their team. 378 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 1: Trans women are men, which reminds me the hot dogs 379 00:19:39,960 --> 00:19:43,119 Speaker 1: are dogs. T shirt is selling well at armstrong e 380 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:45,679 Speaker 1: Giddy dot com and I got shop. 381 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 2: Yeah. I love that. 382 00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:52,800 Speaker 1: It's a response to the brow beating propaganda phrase trans 383 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: women are women. 384 00:19:54,320 --> 00:19:58,960 Speaker 2: No they're not. No, they're not. Hot dogs are dogs Anyway, 385 00:19:59,160 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 2: it's a joke. 386 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:00,240 Speaker 8: You let. 387 00:20:02,119 --> 00:20:03,399 Speaker 2: My local team wrote a right. 388 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 1: San Diego State went ahead and played its scheduled match 389 00:20:06,119 --> 00:20:09,360 Speaker 1: on October tenth. Although San Diego State won, there's obviously 390 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 1: no moral clarity and integrity in California. The San Diego 391 00:20:12,920 --> 00:20:16,120 Speaker 1: State University administration has no interest in protecting women's and 392 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:19,679 Speaker 1: women and women's supports. Shame on them, I guess. According 393 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: to the SDSU bureaucracy, hot dogs are dogs. Thank you 394 00:20:24,359 --> 00:20:24,919 Speaker 1: for the note. 395 00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 4: So it kind of reminds me of the whole reparations 396 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:33,440 Speaker 4: thing where people keep running the legislation forward knowing it can't. 397 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 2: End the way. 398 00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:35,960 Speaker 4: They won't claim it's going to end, but they don't 399 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 4: want to be the ones that get tagged with pulling 400 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:40,480 Speaker 4: the plug on it because they did bad from politically. 401 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:42,040 Speaker 4: It's got to be the same way at San Jose 402 00:20:42,080 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 4: State State, right, they can't believe no, no, no, this 403 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 4: will continue. Men will continue to participate in women's sports 404 00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:50,560 Speaker 4: and dominat and everything like that. 405 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,399 Speaker 2: They know that that can't go. 406 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,280 Speaker 4: They just don't want to be the ones that pull 407 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,760 Speaker 4: the plug on it and get dinged for it. I 408 00:20:56,800 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 4: can promise you there are people within San Diego State 409 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,880 Speaker 4: that in San Jose State that are as you describe, 410 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:08,200 Speaker 4: but I'm sure there are, But I think well, right, yeah, 411 00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:10,120 Speaker 4: But I think the majority of. 412 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: The people there on the campus are true believers. They 413 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 1: believe they are doing the right thing because trans women 414 00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: are women and so they should be able to play 415 00:21:18,119 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: the sports. They're cultists, they're delusional. They have been swept 416 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:24,120 Speaker 1: away by a radical theory, which I hope they will 417 00:21:24,400 --> 00:21:26,919 Speaker 1: someday develop the sense to regret. 418 00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: Having said that, this is so. 419 00:21:32,280 --> 00:21:37,840 Speaker 1: Amusing slash mystifying story from the Associated Press run on 420 00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 1: ESPN dot com. 421 00:21:39,840 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 2: And I'm not going to read the whole thing to you. 422 00:21:41,440 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: I wish I could, but I'll cheat and explain why 423 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 1: I wanted to in a minute. But Mountain West Conference 424 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: Commissioner Gloria never Is said Thursday the forfeitures that women's 425 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: volleyball teams are willing to take to avoid playing San 426 00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:58,640 Speaker 1: Jose State is quote not what we celebrate in college athletics, 427 00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 1: and that she is heartbroken over what has transpired this 428 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,840 Speaker 1: season surrounding the Spartans and their opponents. Four teams have 429 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: canceled games as of a seventeenth Sana, Boise State, Southern Utah, 430 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,680 Speaker 1: you Tas State, and Wyoming, with none of the schools 431 00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: explicitly saying why they were forfeited, Yeah, which I hate. 432 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: A group of Nevada players issued a statement saying they 433 00:22:17,359 --> 00:22:19,679 Speaker 1: would not take the court, et cetera, et cetera. The 434 00:22:19,720 --> 00:22:22,560 Speaker 1: players cited they're quote right to safety and fair competition, 435 00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: though their school reaffirmed Thursday that the match was still 436 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:28,399 Speaker 1: planned and that state law bars forfeits your quote for 437 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,200 Speaker 1: reasons related to gender identity or expression. 438 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:33,720 Speaker 2: Way did that state law? 439 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, in Nevada, there's a law that you can't forfeit 440 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 1: if the other team has dudes on it. You made 441 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:46,960 Speaker 1: that a law? How did that become a law? Woke legislators. 442 00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,920 Speaker 1: There are multiple blue states for that law. California, that's 443 00:22:49,960 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 1: the law. Never as, that's the commissioner told the AP. Bah, 444 00:22:54,320 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: it breaks my heart because they're human beings, young people, 445 00:22:56,680 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 1: student athletes on both sides of the issue. 446 00:22:58,600 --> 00:22:59,159 Speaker 2: Blah blah. 447 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: It just doesn't feel right to me. And they go 448 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:05,119 Speaker 1: on for quite a ways on this story. People's reactions, 449 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:10,679 Speaker 1: their quotes, what Trump said saying Diego States, Uh, the 450 00:23:10,800 --> 00:23:15,439 Speaker 1: statements on the they never once, not once, not once 451 00:23:15,640 --> 00:23:19,400 Speaker 1: say the problem here is that San Diego State has 452 00:23:19,480 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: a well I would put it guy on the team. 453 00:23:22,280 --> 00:23:24,520 Speaker 1: They don't even say The problem is San Diego State 454 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 1: has a transgender player. They never state this in the 455 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:29,040 Speaker 1: Associated Press article. 456 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: Oh really, so you would, Yeah, that's funny. 457 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,119 Speaker 4: So if you didn't already know the backstory, you wouldn't 458 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:34,119 Speaker 4: have figured out what was going on. 459 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:37,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd walk away from reading this entire article saying, 460 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,720 Speaker 2: what the hell are they talking about? Right? Wow? Why'd 461 00:23:40,760 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: they forfeit? What is this article about? Isn't that terrible happen? 462 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:46,240 Speaker 2: It's just got to be cowardice. 463 00:23:47,160 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 4: So that's why the because it was driving me crazy 464 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 4: that these universities wouldn't make it clear why they forfeited. 465 00:23:52,800 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 4: But they can't say why because it's against the laws 466 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:56,040 Speaker 4: some places. 467 00:23:56,840 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 2: That's not yes, I'm saying thinking it over. 468 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:03,320 Speaker 1: I mean, the students could absolutely say I'm not playing 469 00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:05,560 Speaker 1: with a dude on the court, although nobody has put 470 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,000 Speaker 1: it that plainly because in their generation that's a bridge 471 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 1: too far. They know what they're supposed to say and 472 00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:13,639 Speaker 1: what they're not supposed to say, but they don't want 473 00:24:13,680 --> 00:24:15,239 Speaker 1: to be hitting the face by an eighty mile per 474 00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 1: hoor smash either, and other than Riley Gaines or some 475 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,200 Speaker 1: brave women who are standing up for women's rights. 476 00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,840 Speaker 2: So they just and it takes it. 477 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: It's absolutely an act of courage to cancel the game, 478 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: to forfeit the game. But nobody's putting too fine a 479 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 1: point on it at this point. 480 00:24:30,920 --> 00:24:33,920 Speaker 4: And you'd be bringing a heap and helping of mess 481 00:24:34,000 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 4: down on your head if you were to speak out 482 00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,919 Speaker 4: about it as one of the students, and if you 483 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 4: were the name attached to it. Sure, you're twenty one 484 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:42,479 Speaker 4: year old college girl. You just want to live your 485 00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: life and play volleyball. You don't need to be the 486 00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 4: face of trans resistance right social media would go ape 487 00:24:48,640 --> 00:24:49,239 Speaker 4: pooh on you. 488 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 1: One more quick note and this is so sad it's 489 00:24:54,280 --> 00:24:58,120 Speaker 1: from the UK, or they're even further down the road 490 00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:58,359 Speaker 1: to this. 491 00:24:58,720 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure it is the Yeah. 492 00:25:02,680 --> 00:25:07,600 Speaker 1: A seventeen year old autistic girl has been suspended for 493 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: up to twelve matches for asking an adult transgender opponent 494 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:13,120 Speaker 1: are you a man? 495 00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:17,200 Speaker 2: She was charged last month was saying are you a man? 496 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:23,600 Speaker 1: That's a man? During a preseason game in July. The 497 00:25:23,640 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: girl admits asking a player she describes as having a beard, 498 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 1: are you a man? She also admits asking the referee 499 00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,520 Speaker 1: for guidance about the player's eligibility to participate in women's soccer. 500 00:25:34,600 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 1: Quote given my concern for my safety after already suffering 501 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: a number of physical challenges and injuries. So for this 502 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:44,720 Speaker 1: girl was autistic saying are you a man? 503 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:45,480 Speaker 2: That's a man? 504 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: Because somebody claiming to be a woman who is clearly 505 00:25:50,560 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: a man with a beard running around on the field 506 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,959 Speaker 1: putting her in danger? How are you not militant on 507 00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:58,280 Speaker 1: this topic? America? 508 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 2: What the hell? This is insanity? It really is. How 509 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 2: about girl? 510 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:10,520 Speaker 4: How about the AP doing a whole story about San 511 00:26:10,560 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 4: Diego State girls volleyball and not mentioning what the story is? 512 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, I mean it could just be the journalism. 513 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: Is that terrible? Well maybe, but. 514 00:26:23,119 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 1: It seems very inconvenient. Are very convenient given this the 515 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 1: leanings of the AP to leave that out? 516 00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:33,640 Speaker 2: Although how do you leave that out? 517 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:37,960 Speaker 1: That's the story, right, It's just all these vague clips 518 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,600 Speaker 1: about it's heartbreaking and nobody questions their safety. 519 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,680 Speaker 2: But ah blah blah blah. Yes, it's terrible. 520 00:26:45,720 --> 00:26:48,960 Speaker 4: So what do you think is going to happen? Is 521 00:26:50,280 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 4: the Spartans? Are they going to so when you when 522 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 4: the other team's forfeit, you get a win? 523 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,800 Speaker 2: Yeah? So they are now are they now fourteen and zero. 524 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 1: Now they've lost one game San Diego States in Yeah, 525 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,440 Speaker 1: so what's their record then with all the forfeit wins 526 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:10,080 Speaker 1: and the rent I don't have that in front of me. 527 00:27:10,359 --> 00:27:11,560 Speaker 1: But so are they going to be like in the 528 00:27:11,560 --> 00:27:13,960 Speaker 1: playoffs and then teams are forfeiting and then they march 529 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:15,119 Speaker 1: their way through the playoffs. 530 00:27:15,480 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 2: Oh, they're going to win the conference almost certainly. Yeah. Wow, 531 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:23,040 Speaker 2: for what it's worth. 532 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: So here's here's a quote from San Jose State coach 533 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:33,800 Speaker 1: Todd Kress said playing the games was his team's safe 534 00:27:33,800 --> 00:27:37,119 Speaker 1: haven and noticed that noted that security and police escorts 535 00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,000 Speaker 1: are now involved when his team takes the court. I 536 00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,840 Speaker 1: don't want that, you don't quote. I know this is 537 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: all troubling. I know that it's definitely taking a toll 538 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 1: on many of them. They're receiving messages of hate, which 539 00:27:47,160 --> 00:27:50,879 Speaker 1: is completely ridiculous to me. Some of those people are 540 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,800 Speaker 1: the underbelloty of society. That you attack an eighteen, nineteen, 541 00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,920 Speaker 1: twenty year old female, and even more so, if you're 542 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,240 Speaker 1: a parent, you're attacking these twenty year olds. Would you 543 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,320 Speaker 1: want your student athlete, your daughter to face the same 544 00:28:00,359 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: kind of hate that you're dishing out well, no, of course, 545 00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: not anybody's dishing out hate to players is a bad person. 546 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,920 Speaker 1: But you have a dude on your team, coach Kress, 547 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,400 Speaker 1: So you have a dude on your women's volleyball team. 548 00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 1: Dressing up as a female, taking hormones as a female, 549 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:21,560 Speaker 1: getting your penis and testicles removed does not make you 550 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:22,680 Speaker 1: a woman. 551 00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:29,520 Speaker 4: Zero excuse for anybody who's threatening violence or saying bad 552 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 4: things that these of course it's not zero excuse, but 553 00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:37,680 Speaker 4: you are foisting an incredible why on people and expecting 554 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 4: them to like ignore it. Yeah, you have opened a 555 00:28:44,680 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 4: Pandora's box of ugliness, which does not excuse the ugliness. Well, this, 556 00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:52,719 Speaker 4: I assume this is going to blow up into a 557 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 4: giant national story if they like win the conference and 558 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 4: start marching through the playoffs. 559 00:28:58,560 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 1: I don't know what's playoff, and I assume there's some 560 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:03,360 Speaker 1: big tournament. 561 00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:05,560 Speaker 2: I assume so too, right, But I mean. 562 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:10,440 Speaker 4: If they're becoming like the representative for the western half 563 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: of the United States for the national finals or something, 564 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:14,600 Speaker 4: I would think that would get some attention. 565 00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:17,880 Speaker 1: If the AP doesn't even say, by the way, they 566 00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:21,560 Speaker 1: get a transgender dude they're on the team, No, will 567 00:29:21,560 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: not blow up into a giant story. It's too inconvenient 568 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:28,480 Speaker 1: for the left and they're wholly owned media. 569 00:29:29,080 --> 00:29:31,720 Speaker 4: So election days two weeks from tomorrow, we are not 570 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,560 Speaker 4: going to know who the president is for quite some time, 571 00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 4: and what's going to happen those days afterwards? There's going 572 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 4: to be something to watch, according to Ian Bremer, among others. 573 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:44,520 Speaker 4: That and who are the undecided voters? The New York 574 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 4: Times knows because they looked into their own polling. That's 575 00:29:47,480 --> 00:29:48,360 Speaker 4: pretty interesting too. 576 00:29:48,400 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 2: All on the way, So Ian Bremer. 577 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,760 Speaker 4: Put this out over the weekend how he thinks this 578 00:29:57,880 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 4: is going to play out over the next couple of weeks. 579 00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 6: So I'm not that worried about the weeks running up 580 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 6: to the election that I'm very worried about the days 581 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:10,040 Speaker 6: and weeks after the election. There will be districts that 582 00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:15,320 Speaker 6: don't certify the winner of the election because the elected 583 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 6: officials don't like the outcome. There will be massive numbers 584 00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:22,760 Speaker 6: of court cases. I think there will be intimidation in 585 00:30:22,800 --> 00:30:25,880 Speaker 6: certain areas that'll try to stop certain people from voting. 586 00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:29,280 Speaker 2: And I think that after the vote is done, there. 587 00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:32,120 Speaker 6: Will be huge numbers of people that don't believe that 588 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 6: it's true that believe it's rigged, and that's a dangerous 589 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,000 Speaker 6: place to be. 590 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 2: I'm not talking about a civil war. I'm not talking 591 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 2: about the USB. Oh what, why don't we have the 592 00:30:43,040 --> 00:30:46,200 Speaker 2: whole thing? The pending part is the best part. Why 593 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:50,200 Speaker 2: did we okay, all right, just petered out in an 594 00:30:50,200 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 2: odd way? Well it didn't. 595 00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,280 Speaker 4: Actually, it ended with the punchline of the whole thing 596 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 4: that we need to be prepared for something that we 597 00:30:57,120 --> 00:31:01,120 Speaker 4: have never seen before in this country in terms of 598 00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:03,680 Speaker 4: the unrest around a presidential election. 599 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 2: And I think that is almost certainly the case. 600 00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:12,560 Speaker 4: He didn't specifically say that he thinks it's going to be, 601 00:31:12,680 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 4: you know, on the Republican side. I'll bet he thinks that, 602 00:31:14,840 --> 00:31:18,880 Speaker 4: but I think it could be on either or both sides. Yeah, 603 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,640 Speaker 4: both sides have played fast and loose with. 604 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:26,280 Speaker 1: You know, the fidelity of the ballot, people's faith in 605 00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:29,280 Speaker 1: the electoral process to their own game. Trump gets the 606 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,600 Speaker 1: most attention for it, and actually he said things that 607 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:35,840 Speaker 1: I think were indefensible and terrible and irresponsible a little. 608 00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:37,280 Speaker 2: But the left does it constantly. 609 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 4: Oh yeah, and there are plenty of Democrats that wouldn't 610 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 4: vote to certify various things it just didn't get as 611 00:31:43,000 --> 00:31:45,280 Speaker 4: much attention because it wasn't going to make a difference. 612 00:31:46,000 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: But yeah, so I'm not looking forward to this. I 613 00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 4: hope it's just something we need to go through and 614 00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 4: we'll get back on track. Or it's part of the 615 00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:01,600 Speaker 4: degeneration of a democracy that has happened with every other 616 00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,440 Speaker 4: democracy that's ever existed on Earth and then it falls apart. 617 00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 4: So it's all going to be determined by undecided voters. 618 00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:11,200 Speaker 4: We all know that it's uh, we're split fifty to 619 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,840 Speaker 4: fifty as a nation for people who've made up their mind, 620 00:32:14,840 --> 00:32:17,520 Speaker 4: and then you only got seven states that could possibly 621 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,320 Speaker 4: go either way at this point. The New York Times 622 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: talked to people inside the Harris and Trump campaigns who 623 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 4: have spent a ton of money. I mean, if anybody 624 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:34,560 Speaker 4: knows these people know, they've got gazillions of dollars at 625 00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 4: stake on figuring out who's an undecided voter? 626 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 2: Where are they and then how do. 627 00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:42,680 Speaker 4: We persuade them both campaigns And they talk to The 628 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 4: New York Times off the record about that. So the 629 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:49,160 Speaker 4: belief is there are about three point seven percent of 630 00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:52,440 Speaker 4: the voters spread over the seven states, which totals one 631 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 4: point two million people spread out over seven states that 632 00:32:56,080 --> 00:33:01,080 Speaker 4: are truly undecided, like, actually, two weeks out, don't know 633 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:02,800 Speaker 4: who they're going to vote for. I know for most 634 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,360 Speaker 4: of us, that makes no sense whatsoever. We can't even 635 00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:10,480 Speaker 4: imagine how you would be that person. The Times analysis 636 00:33:10,480 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 4: closely mirrored what the campaigns describe, a group heavy on 637 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:17,200 Speaker 4: younger voters, people of color, and those without college degree. 638 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 4: Black voters make up about twenty one percent of the 639 00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:25,200 Speaker 4: undecided group, which explains why miss Harris's explicit push for 640 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 4: them over the last couple of weeks, going on various 641 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 4: shows talking about various things or some of the things 642 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:31,000 Speaker 4: Trump has been saying. 643 00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:36,760 Speaker 2: I suppose I wanted to jump down to this. 644 00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:40,280 Speaker 4: Internal surveys showed that about two thirds of undecided voters 645 00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,640 Speaker 4: in the battleground states had consumed at least some of 646 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 4: Kamala Harris's interviews last week, but in a sign of 647 00:33:46,800 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 4: the fragmented media environment under underscoring the challenge, no single 648 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 4: program reached more than one in three of those undecided voters. 649 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,480 Speaker 4: So things aren't the way they used to be, where 650 00:33:56,520 --> 00:34:00,280 Speaker 4: you would have the sixty minutes interview or you know, 651 00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:03,880 Speaker 4: the debate or the evening newscast or the one newspaper. 652 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 4: Everything's so fragmented it's hard to reach these people. So 653 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,239 Speaker 4: that's another added layer of something different than it has 654 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:12,200 Speaker 4: ever existed before. 655 00:34:12,600 --> 00:34:14,839 Speaker 1: And I believe you said that they saw at least 656 00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:18,000 Speaker 1: some portion, meaning it might have just been curated the. 657 00:34:18,120 --> 00:34:22,520 Speaker 4: Lightfully selected clips. Actually, I'll bet you're exactly right. They 658 00:34:22,560 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 4: saw a couple of highlights put out by whoever is 659 00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,239 Speaker 4: trying to make her look good or look bad. They 660 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 4: were probably misleading, in fact, almost certainly. To talk to them, 661 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 4: we have to take a layered approach. We have to 662 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:41,680 Speaker 4: be on TV, non traditional platforms, door knocking, billboards, digital ads, mail, everything, 663 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:46,560 Speaker 4: really to have a chance of reaching these possible persuadables. 664 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 4: Lower educated taking in their news through social media haven't 665 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,719 Speaker 4: made up their mind. I can't even imagine as a 666 00:34:55,719 --> 00:34:57,800 Speaker 4: political science. Is how you think you're going to convince 667 00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:59,200 Speaker 4: them with fifteen days to go. 668 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:03,239 Speaker 1: I don't know either, but it's it's increasingly clear to 669 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,799 Speaker 1: me the undecided voter is the they both suck and 670 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,840 Speaker 1: I hate them, and I can't decide which one I 671 00:35:09,880 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: hate less crowd, that's my guess. And then how are 672 00:35:13,560 --> 00:35:16,319 Speaker 1: they going to make up their mind on election day. 673 00:35:16,360 --> 00:35:18,440 Speaker 2: If I knew that, I would be a very wealthy man. 674 00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:20,000 Speaker 2: No kidding. If you missed an hour of this show, 675 00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:22,480 Speaker 2: gets a podcast Armstrong and Getty on the Bank, Armstrong 676 00:35:22,560 --> 00:35:23,080 Speaker 2: and Getty