1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: The Coin Bureau Podcast is a production of I Heart Radio. 2 00:00:03,760 --> 00:00:08,200 Speaker 1: When Russia invaded Ukraine back in February, they've started uploading 3 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:12,800 Speaker 1: loads of stories, loads of video, photos, other media and stuff. 4 00:00:12,840 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: They've started uploading it to ore. We've so as so 5 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,560 Speaker 1: as you've got this indisputable record of what happens, and 6 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: that is going to be so so valuable. Welcome everyone 7 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,120 Speaker 1: to the Coin Bureau Podcast. My name is Guy and 8 00:00:36,360 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 1: your name Mike Mooch. Welcome, And in this I want 9 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:44,199 Speaker 1: to do another two parter because I want to get 10 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,760 Speaker 1: there's quite a lot of quite a lot of detail 11 00:00:46,840 --> 00:00:49,279 Speaker 1: to cover here. So basically I want to look at 12 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:55,960 Speaker 1: the different categories of cryptocurrency because there are over eighteen 13 00:00:56,160 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: thousand cryptocurrencies in existence. We've been sort of quite a 14 00:01:01,080 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: lot of the last few episodes just talking about two 15 00:01:04,319 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: of them. Now, I guess people might be listening to 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: this and thinking, Okay, they're not going to spend sort 17 00:01:10,400 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: of north of two episodes on every single one of them, 18 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:15,080 Speaker 1: are they know? So if we categorize them then we 19 00:01:15,080 --> 00:01:18,280 Speaker 1: can just go, okay, call this is one section four thousand, 20 00:01:18,319 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 1: This is one section A thousand five D, This is 21 00:01:20,959 --> 00:01:25,080 Speaker 1: one section mine coin Yeah, basically that was that was 22 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 1: part of the thinking. That was part of the thinking 23 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: because yeah, there are so many projects we can't possibly 24 00:01:30,520 --> 00:01:33,360 Speaker 1: cover them all. We are going to cover individual projects 25 00:01:33,440 --> 00:01:36,760 Speaker 1: in future episodes because some of them are fascinating, Some 26 00:01:36,800 --> 00:01:39,199 Speaker 1: of them are really fascinating, some of them are very 27 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 1: key parts of the whole crypto ecosystem. Some of them 28 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:46,640 Speaker 1: really do merit their own episode. Others maybe, you know, 29 00:01:46,680 --> 00:01:48,040 Speaker 1: we might be able to do an episode on a 30 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:51,320 Speaker 1: particular group of them or whatever, but I think really 31 00:01:51,320 --> 00:01:53,640 Speaker 1: the only ones that sort of merits, you know, two 32 00:01:53,640 --> 00:01:57,279 Speaker 1: plus part episodes a Bitcoin and Ethereum, which we've already covered, 33 00:01:57,920 --> 00:01:59,680 Speaker 1: and yeah, I mean we can't do a three part 34 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 1: episod sowd on doge Bonk, for instance, which when I 35 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 1: checked was number six, which is quite high for something 36 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: just called doge bank. Anyhow, I don't think we're gonna 37 00:02:12,320 --> 00:02:17,640 Speaker 1: spend any more time on that. So yeah, basically, cryptocurrencies 38 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:22,079 Speaker 1: fall into a number of different categories, and I think 39 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: it's really useful to explore what these categories are because 40 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 1: I think that's that can aid our understanding of what's 41 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: what particular cryptocurrencies can do or are designed to do. 42 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: What their actual place in the whole crypto verse is 43 00:02:39,000 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 1: if you like. So, we're gonna split this episode, as 44 00:02:42,360 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 1: I said, into two parts. Firstly, today I want to 45 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: cover the different types of cryptocurrency coins, and then next 46 00:02:51,639 --> 00:02:56,359 Speaker 1: week we'll cover the different types of cryptocurrency tokens. Now 47 00:02:56,400 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: do you remember we have discussed this a couple So like, so, uh, 48 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:04,960 Speaker 1: bitcoin is a coin, and then ethereum is a coin. 49 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:08,800 Speaker 1: Ethereum is a coin, but then something like doge coin 50 00:03:09,120 --> 00:03:12,520 Speaker 1: is off ethereum dog coin is actually a coin itself. 51 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: But you're you're on the right track. Yeah. Basically, a 52 00:03:14,639 --> 00:03:18,959 Speaker 1: coin is a cryptocurrency that lives on its own blockchain, yes, 53 00:03:19,040 --> 00:03:22,360 Speaker 1: and then tokens are ones off off another blockchain. Yes, 54 00:03:22,440 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: So tokens are cryptocurrencies that are built hosted on on 55 00:03:26,919 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: another blockchain. That's that's the sort of key difference. That's 56 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,960 Speaker 1: the that's the easiest way to think about it. And yeah, 57 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:36,720 Speaker 1: coins are generally a lot. It's it's much more of 58 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: an undertaking to build a cryptocurrency coin because you have 59 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: to it has to have its own blockchain, so it's 60 00:03:42,960 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: a completely sort of standalone project, whereas a crypto token, 61 00:03:46,240 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: as we found out in the episodes on the Ethereum 62 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: can be can be built on another blockchain like Ethereum 63 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: for instance, fairly easily. And as I said, you only 64 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: need you only really need a bit of coding knowledge 65 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 1: and and you can bread coin brett coin. Brett coin 66 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: is a coin done by a comedian, New York comedian's token. Sorry, yeah, correct, 67 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 1: but this is yeah, this is this is kind of 68 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 1: this is what can be quite confusing, and I want 69 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: to sort of try and and and clear this up 70 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 1: for people because yeah, so so often it will be 71 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:22,560 Speaker 1: referred to as something coin, pooh coin, mnch coin, whatever 72 00:04:22,560 --> 00:04:26,600 Speaker 1: it is, and it's important to to to understand that distinction. 73 00:04:26,640 --> 00:04:29,200 Speaker 1: Just because it says coin in the title doesn't necessarily 74 00:04:29,240 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: mean it is. Just because it says fat free doesn't 75 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,400 Speaker 1: mean it's good for you. Yeah, very Yeah, I think 76 00:04:36,440 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: that's I think that explains it beautifully. So yeah, so yeah, 77 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,560 Speaker 1: brett Coin is is obviously a token built for for 78 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: a particular comedian. Yeah. I think basically you're essentially investing 79 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: in him and how well he does. And I saw 80 00:04:51,440 --> 00:04:53,680 Speaker 1: on a podcast he seemed like a funny guy. Okay, 81 00:04:53,760 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: I loved him. Cheeky, cheeky, ton. Yeah, okay, well, good 82 00:04:59,560 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 1: luck with that. Let's see, I'll look out for breakfa 83 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:08,080 Speaker 1: not financially. Not financially my goodness here welder. So yeah, okay. 84 00:05:08,120 --> 00:05:10,560 Speaker 1: So we're going to cover coins in this episode, and 85 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,000 Speaker 1: then we're going to cover tokens next week. Now, this 86 00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,320 Speaker 1: list of categories, it isn't exhaustive because kind of new 87 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,479 Speaker 1: types of cryptocurrency token especially are emerging as as the 88 00:05:21,480 --> 00:05:24,080 Speaker 1: sector develops. So we're not going to cover all of 89 00:05:24,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: them in these two episodes because otherwise we will be 90 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: getting a little bit exhaustive. But these are enough to 91 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,000 Speaker 1: be getting started with, and especially the ones that we're 92 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: going to cover today, especially the early ones, are sort 93 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 1: of very most of them are quite sort of large buckets, 94 00:05:38,320 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: if you like, so quite a few cryptocurrency coins fall 95 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: into the categories that we're going to look at today, 96 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:46,240 Speaker 1: and towards the end of the episode, we're going to 97 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: look at some coins that actually a sort of generally 98 00:05:49,960 --> 00:05:53,080 Speaker 1: there are more tokens than coins in that particular category, 99 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:55,640 Speaker 1: and that will kind of bleed into the next episode. So, 100 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: believe it or not, quite a lot of thought has 101 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,280 Speaker 1: gone into structuring this. It doesn't it isn't just a 102 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:04,599 Speaker 1: sort of you know, I wouldn't expect anything else from 103 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:09,039 Speaker 1: you if it was the reverse. What you mean, you've 104 00:06:09,279 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: you've thought this through. If it was me, we'd just 105 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: be kind of winging it and I would be a 106 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: lot of like on air research being done. Yeah, let 107 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:22,000 Speaker 1: me just let me just have a look on Google. Yeah, yeah, 108 00:06:22,120 --> 00:06:28,160 Speaker 1: I was right, Yeah course, yeah. Okay, So with that, 109 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,320 Speaker 1: with that introduction out of the way, let us get 110 00:06:31,360 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 1: into part one. So as just said, we've looked at 111 00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: the difference between a coin and so can so let's 112 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: look at the first category of coins, which is store 113 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:47,799 Speaker 1: of value coins. Is this like um coin? Yeah yeah, 114 00:06:47,880 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: well no I was I was actually gonna say, um um, 115 00:06:52,200 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 1: you know the dollar one. Oh no, So that's that's 116 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,320 Speaker 1: an interesting one. Yeah. That that's not to be confused 117 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 1: with stable coins. Stable coins and actually, weirdly here's and 118 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: you know there here's another sort of instance where um 119 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,799 Speaker 1: that the name can be a bit misleading. Stable coins 120 00:07:08,920 --> 00:07:13,720 Speaker 1: are tokens. Oh yeah again, yeah, I suppose because there 121 00:07:13,800 --> 00:07:16,600 Speaker 1: is no blockchain really for it, it's kind of offered 122 00:07:16,720 --> 00:07:20,040 Speaker 1: offered something. Well, they run on they run on other blocks. Ye, yeah, 123 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,800 Speaker 1: so they're they're representations of of of assets. But I 124 00:07:23,800 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: thought because it was a kind of a store of value, 125 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:28,360 Speaker 1: because a lot of people use them to buy other 126 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: coins than But yeah, I know what you mean. I suppose, Yeah, 127 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 1: I suppose stable coins can be said in a way 128 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,160 Speaker 1: to be a to be a store of value in 129 00:07:37,160 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 1: that you you know, you can hold, you can you 130 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:44,880 Speaker 1: can insulate yourself from the natural volatility of crypto. By yeah, 131 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 1: it's I think they fall into a slightly different category. 132 00:07:49,720 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: I mean that they fall into their own category. And 133 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,160 Speaker 1: I think also as well, they fall into the category 134 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 1: a little bit that we're going to look at next. 135 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 1: But I take your point. But anyhow, cryptos these these 136 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:03,320 Speaker 1: store of value coins, and really I'm talking pretty much 137 00:08:03,520 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: about Bitcoin only. A big Bitcoin is pretty much the 138 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: only one we need ourselves with. Yeah, the gold standard 139 00:08:09,600 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: cryptos are these store of value coins are designed to 140 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:19,040 Speaker 1: hold or increase their purchasing power over time. Now this 141 00:08:19,120 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: is an important that that that term purchasing power is 142 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: an important phrase because it's different from price. And this 143 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,920 Speaker 1: is what a lot of people forget when you know 144 00:08:29,960 --> 00:08:32,839 Speaker 1: it's it's sometimes you mentioned bitcoin is a store of 145 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: values to some people, and they go wealth how can 146 00:08:35,200 --> 00:08:37,400 Speaker 1: it possibly be a store of value when it's prices 147 00:08:37,440 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: so it is so volatile and certainly in the short 148 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: term that's that's a fair point. But purchasing powers, I said, 149 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:48,200 Speaker 1: it's different from price regular feat currencies, as we've talked 150 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 1: about before, they lose around two to three pc of 151 00:08:51,960 --> 00:08:57,199 Speaker 1: their purchasing power every year because governments keep printing more 152 00:08:57,240 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: of them. Yeah, and that's probably going to go up 153 00:09:00,520 --> 00:09:03,840 Speaker 1: from two. Yeah, I mean inflation at the moment and yeah, 154 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: this is I mean, this is what this is the 155 00:09:05,600 --> 00:09:10,440 Speaker 1: result inflation um is just running hot at the moment. 156 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: And this is well, we've talked about this in the 157 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: previous episode when we talked about the fact that the 158 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:18,160 Speaker 1: crypto markets are taking such a hammering and the global 159 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,920 Speaker 1: economy as a whole because interest rates are going up 160 00:09:21,320 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 1: in an attempt to try and tame this runaway inflation. 161 00:09:25,120 --> 00:09:28,360 Speaker 1: So yeah, when when inflation happens, when when the money 162 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: supply is inflated, your money doesn't go as as far, 163 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 1: it doesn't buy as much, so that the pounds in 164 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: our pockets today won't buy as much as they would 165 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 1: have bought a year ago, or ten years ago or 166 00:09:40,679 --> 00:09:47,200 Speaker 1: twenty years ago. Um. So they're purchasing power has decreased. Now, 167 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,560 Speaker 1: As I said, the principal store of value coin, the 168 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: principal coin cryptocurrency coin to preserve purchasing power is of 169 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 1: course Bitcoin. And the reason it does this so well 170 00:09:58,679 --> 00:10:01,800 Speaker 1: and will do so well over time, is because it 171 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:05,880 Speaker 1: was designed with this twenty one million coin limit, so 172 00:10:06,040 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 1: it's purchasing power can't be inflated away. We can't just 173 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:12,840 Speaker 1: create more and more and more of the finite amount. Yeah, 174 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:16,000 Speaker 1: and this is why bitcoin or BTC, you know, the 175 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,360 Speaker 1: coin that lives on the Bitcoin blockchain. This is why 176 00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: it's sometimes referred to as digital gold. So yeah, this 177 00:10:23,320 --> 00:10:25,559 Speaker 1: is this is what purchasing about. This is what store 178 00:10:25,600 --> 00:10:28,400 Speaker 1: of value is all about. And that's what that phrase 179 00:10:28,520 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: means when you when you hear it referred to um. 180 00:10:33,200 --> 00:10:36,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, Bitcoin is the main store of value coin. 181 00:10:36,520 --> 00:10:40,360 Speaker 1: It's purpose very much, very much. The reason that Satoshi 182 00:10:40,600 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: designed it was was for a form of money that 183 00:10:44,080 --> 00:10:46,360 Speaker 1: couldn't just you couldn't just print more and more and 184 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,839 Speaker 1: more of it as you wanted. It retained its purchasing power, 185 00:10:49,880 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: and that is why so many people are hoddling, so 186 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: many people are stacking SATs at the moment because they 187 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,720 Speaker 1: know that the pounds, the dollars, the euros, the yen's, 188 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: whatever it is in their pot, it's is devaluing over time. 189 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: It won't be as worth as much in a few 190 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: years time, whereas bitcoin, we're pretty confident will be now. 191 00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:11,800 Speaker 1: As a bit of a side note, I should also 192 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: say that bitcoin was also designed to act as a 193 00:11:14,559 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: payment network too, and it does kind of serve that function, 194 00:11:18,559 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 1: even not well with the lightning stuff apparently. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 195 00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:27,079 Speaker 1: but like it's more for big things where you can 196 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 1: wait ten fifteen minutes, Yeah, exactly. It doesn't really it 197 00:11:30,520 --> 00:11:34,079 Speaker 1: doesn't really function that well as a payment network because 198 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 1: of those factors that we looked at in when we 199 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,680 Speaker 1: talked about bitcoin specifically, you know the fact that it 200 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 1: has this quite small block size, fairly fairly long transaction 201 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: times only around seven transactions per second, which is far 202 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,640 Speaker 1: too slow for a regular payments network. Um. And yeah, 203 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:55,880 Speaker 1: so for this reason it, I mean, people do transact 204 00:11:55,920 --> 00:11:59,560 Speaker 1: with it, but it's generally functioning more and more these 205 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:01,959 Speaker 1: days as a store of value. People don't. People tend 206 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 1: to huddle more than actually more than actually spend um. 207 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:09,080 Speaker 1: And as you said, if the lightning network takes off, 208 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:14,280 Speaker 1: then we could see Bitcoin used more for payments. But 209 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,680 Speaker 1: until that point, it is more of a store of value. 210 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: And I don't know, I think there's a kind of 211 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: there's a there's a sort of split in the bitcoin community. 212 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:25,600 Speaker 1: I think some people are very very keen for it too, 213 00:12:26,559 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 1: for it to become this payment's network, for it to 214 00:12:28,800 --> 00:12:34,160 Speaker 1: completely replace fiat currencies, and other people see it more, 215 00:12:34,679 --> 00:12:37,120 Speaker 1: you know, see it more its potential as a way 216 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: to protect your protect your purchasing, protect the value of 217 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: your money into the future. And as I said, there 218 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:48,120 Speaker 1: aren't really any other notable cryptocurrencies in this niche. But 219 00:12:48,160 --> 00:12:50,840 Speaker 1: I mean it's a pretty bitcoin is you know, there 220 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,000 Speaker 1: ain't room for There ain't room for Bitcoin and anything 221 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: else in this niche. So that is the first category 222 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: of cryptocurrency coin. Let's now move on to the next, 223 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 1: which is payment coins. Now, this one is a bit 224 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: of a spinoff from the whole store of value sector, 225 00:13:08,240 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 1: and there are a few coins in this Some of 226 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 1: the coins that I've put in this category could be 227 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:16,520 Speaker 1: a little controversial. Is this is this one of these 228 00:13:16,600 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 1: weird classification sort of like a platypus duck. Is it 229 00:13:21,360 --> 00:13:24,880 Speaker 1: a mammal. Is it a you know, lays eggs. Is 230 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,240 Speaker 1: it a mammal or is it a bird? Yeah? Yeah, 231 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: well the heck yeah yeah, you could perhaps have that 232 00:13:30,720 --> 00:13:33,600 Speaker 1: that that could be that could the anomally some of 233 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: these maybe, yeah, we're talking certainly some people will disagree 234 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:40,480 Speaker 1: with me. Well, I think the two main ones in 235 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: this category are light coin and bitcoin Cash. So LTC 236 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:49,640 Speaker 1: and BC is light coin off ethereum. No, light coin 237 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:55,320 Speaker 1: is was copy light coins code was copied from bitcoins, 238 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 1: so it's it's designed very much like bitcoin. But you 239 00:13:58,400 --> 00:14:02,360 Speaker 1: remember when we talked about coin a few weeks ago, now, 240 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,560 Speaker 1: we did talk about light coin because it's from the earliest, 241 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:09,040 Speaker 1: earliest talk coins. It was designed as a sort of 242 00:14:09,400 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: lighter Bitcoin, so it's light coin blocks have produced more 243 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 1: frequently and they generally it generally works better for payment. 244 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:22,040 Speaker 1: Is it's still top ten light Coin? No, it's still 245 00:14:22,840 --> 00:14:24,680 Speaker 1: I think it's sort of around the top twenty. It 246 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,040 Speaker 1: might just be sort of below, you know, definitely top thirty, 247 00:14:27,080 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 1: I think. So it's still around and it's still I 248 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 1: mean again, when is XRP. Yeah, we're going to come 249 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:37,800 Speaker 1: to XRP in a minute. Um, But yeah, the thing 250 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,000 Speaker 1: about light coin is that it does kind of function 251 00:14:40,080 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: as a payment coin. And again I've talked about this before, 252 00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: but when you see companies sort of adopting crypto so often, 253 00:14:47,360 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 1: you know, as a form of payment, um and PayPal 254 00:14:50,320 --> 00:14:53,880 Speaker 1: is a good example. Um you so often you know, 255 00:14:53,960 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: it's usually bitcoin ethereum and then more often than not 256 00:14:57,360 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: light coin and bitcoin cash. And of course we rememb 257 00:15:00,040 --> 00:15:02,520 Speaker 1: the Bitcoin cash. This was a this was the hard 258 00:15:02,560 --> 00:15:05,680 Speaker 1: for four bitcoin, the whole four cup exactly, and when 259 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:08,120 Speaker 1: they were having this huge argument over block size. And 260 00:15:08,200 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: bitcoin cash kind of as the name suggests, is designed 261 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,120 Speaker 1: to function a bit more like cash, so it has 262 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:19,800 Speaker 1: bigger blocks, faster transaction times. So those two are i 263 00:15:19,880 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: would say, the main payment coins, the main coins in 264 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:25,920 Speaker 1: this particular niche And as you flagged up before, and 265 00:15:25,960 --> 00:15:28,360 Speaker 1: this is something that I noted Dan, don't get these 266 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: confused with stable coins, which we will talk about in 267 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 1: the next episode. Yeah, So, as I said, both of these, 268 00:15:35,960 --> 00:15:39,080 Speaker 1: both like cooin and bitcoin are a Bitcoin cash are 269 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:42,640 Speaker 1: are based very much on Bitcoin's original code, but with 270 00:15:42,720 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: some adjustments to make it to make them basically faster 271 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: and more sort of payment friendly if you like. Another 272 00:15:49,040 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 1: one that I'd like to include in this niche is 273 00:15:51,560 --> 00:15:55,320 Speaker 1: Dash again, which we talk the halk coin one and 274 00:15:55,480 --> 00:15:58,640 Speaker 1: Dash well, as the name suggests, it was designed to 275 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 1: act like digital cash. So I think Dash is still 276 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:06,680 Speaker 1: actually quite popular for crypto payments in certain parts of 277 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:08,720 Speaker 1: the world. I think Dash is quite not to be 278 00:16:08,800 --> 00:16:11,760 Speaker 1: confused with, not to be confused with your favorite diggi 279 00:16:11,760 --> 00:16:16,240 Speaker 1: cash like that. I wonder if we can get you 280 00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 1: sponsored by diggi cash, and I'll write to David Chum. 281 00:16:21,400 --> 00:16:24,800 Speaker 1: So Dash also kind of falls into the privacy coin 282 00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:28,240 Speaker 1: niche a little bit, a little bit not like Monero, 283 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 1: not like Monero, which we'll talk about in a minute. Now, 284 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:35,480 Speaker 1: there are two other coins that I've put into this bracket, 285 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: and these ones I think could be a little controversial. 286 00:16:39,040 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: I think people could disagree with me in this um 287 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:46,600 Speaker 1: and if you do, then please suck eggs. Yeah, okay, 288 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,840 Speaker 1: if you do, don't you dare now? If you do, yeah, 289 00:16:51,880 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: please let me know. Um. So I would say that 290 00:16:54,840 --> 00:16:57,680 Speaker 1: two other coins in this niche would be Ripples x 291 00:16:57,800 --> 00:17:03,760 Speaker 1: r P and Stellar's xlm ah. Now, both Ripple and Stella, 292 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: and remember these are these are the projects themselves, not 293 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 1: the coins, but both Ripple and Stella are designed to 294 00:17:11,480 --> 00:17:15,760 Speaker 1: be payment networks, so they make it easy for individuals 295 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:20,120 Speaker 1: and mostly really institutions. Enjoyed your video on on these 296 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:23,720 Speaker 1: guys at davof. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, that was yeah, 297 00:17:23,760 --> 00:17:25,439 Speaker 1: that was that was interesting, wasn't it? That was it? 298 00:17:25,720 --> 00:17:28,600 Speaker 1: And and actually like Ripple, companies like Ripple, you know, 299 00:17:28,640 --> 00:17:32,600 Speaker 1: they are sort of very corporate focus, so they do 300 00:17:32,680 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 1: have very good connections with with the with the elite, 301 00:17:36,040 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: with the global elite, with the WEFU. I think it's 302 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 1: I think it makes the I think it makes the 303 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: World Economic Forums sound less scary if you call it 304 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,240 Speaker 1: the WEF. I think if you called it the w EF, 305 00:17:47,400 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 1: it would sound a bit, you know, it sound a 306 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:55,879 Speaker 1: bit like the weffer um um. So yeah, Ripple and 307 00:17:55,920 --> 00:17:58,520 Speaker 1: Stella they're they're kind of corporate focus really, but they 308 00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:03,640 Speaker 1: basically make it easy for institutions to transfer value across borders, 309 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,320 Speaker 1: so you can bypass things like foreign exchange costs and 310 00:18:06,359 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: things like that. So there, their networks are payment networks. Now, 311 00:18:11,119 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 1: I would argue that this means x r P and XLM, 312 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:18,040 Speaker 1: which are the native coins of these networks, function as 313 00:18:18,040 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: a form of payment coin, albeit in a slightly different 314 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: way to the likes of bitcoin, bitcoin cash, et cetera. 315 00:18:24,680 --> 00:18:27,639 Speaker 1: Because I would say that they facilitate the exchange of 316 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:30,600 Speaker 1: value between two parties, and that to me is payment 317 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:34,280 Speaker 1: is a payment. Yeah. Now, plenty of people would disagreement 318 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: in this, because this is crypto after all, isn't it. 319 00:18:37,680 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 1: They would say, I think one of their arguments would 320 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:41,880 Speaker 1: be that x r P and XLM are kind of 321 00:18:42,240 --> 00:18:47,760 Speaker 1: bridge currencies. They just facilitate payments, they're not payment coins 322 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: per se, and they would definitely have a point in 323 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:54,680 Speaker 1: that respect. Um, and there's also the argument that Ripple 324 00:18:54,720 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: and Stellar are kind of actually rivals to the likes 325 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:01,159 Speaker 1: of Ethereum in a way their networks but rather but 326 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 1: whereas Ethereum is designed for smart contracts, Ripple and Steller 327 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:08,960 Speaker 1: are designed for payments, so they're not sort of payment 328 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: cryptocurrencies per se. Now, again, I think this argument, I 329 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,560 Speaker 1: think there's there's a definitely that argument definitely holds water. 330 00:19:16,840 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: But I think for the sake of categorization, I'm going 331 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: to put XRP and XLM in the payment cryptocurrencies bracket 332 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:27,480 Speaker 1: because I think they can fulfill that function, albeit in 333 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 1: a slightly more nuanced way to the likes of, you know, 334 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:34,080 Speaker 1: to the likes of Dash and bitcoin cash. Alright, on 335 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 1: that note, let's take a quick break and we're back 336 00:19:52,040 --> 00:19:57,360 Speaker 1: with part two. Welcome back. Part two is smart contract cryptocurrencies. Now, 337 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 1: this is a pretty big niche and it includes a 338 00:20:00,800 --> 00:20:04,840 Speaker 1: lot of the biggest cryptocurrencies out there. And we're familiar 339 00:20:04,920 --> 00:20:08,040 Speaker 1: with smart contract blockchains because we have, after all, had 340 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: four episodes about Ethereum. Now, so you're not familiar with 341 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,440 Speaker 1: those who haven't been paying attention. So we know that 342 00:20:14,480 --> 00:20:18,879 Speaker 1: these actors platforms on which to build decentralized applications or debts. 343 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,119 Speaker 1: So the native coins of these platforms are used to 344 00:20:24,200 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: pay network fees, i e. To pay minors or more 345 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: commonly now validators for processing transactions on the network, so 346 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 1: that there are kind of, I guess, a kind of 347 00:20:34,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: internal currency for the particular smart contract network we're talking about. 348 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:45,000 Speaker 1: And this is there's a fairly long list of coins 349 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,679 Speaker 1: represented here and some of you know, there's some of 350 00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:49,760 Speaker 1: the most well known, some of the biggest ones out there. 351 00:20:49,840 --> 00:20:53,359 Speaker 1: So we've got the likes of Ethereums obviously that's the 352 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:58,960 Speaker 1: most notable. There's Cardano's aida, there's Salana's sold as trans trx, 353 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 1: a's avalanches of acts as algorithms, algo near protocols, near 354 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:08,280 Speaker 1: l ron Z gold Hedera's hbar, phantoms, FtM, Harmony's one, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera. 355 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,920 Speaker 1: There are loads of smart contract cryptocurrencies, and especially they're 356 00:21:12,000 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 1: very well represented in the top one hundred cryptos by 357 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:16,440 Speaker 1: market cap as well. These are some of the biggest 358 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:20,000 Speaker 1: crypto projects out there. Now, I'm also going to add 359 00:21:20,680 --> 00:21:23,360 Speaker 1: another little subset to this category, and that in order 360 00:21:23,400 --> 00:21:26,959 Speaker 1: to accommodate two other big projects, and these are Polka 361 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,320 Speaker 1: Dot and Cosmos. And you'll see cos Cosmos is now 362 00:21:30,359 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: called Cosmos Hub, but everyone calls it Cosmos and their 363 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:39,120 Speaker 1: their native coins, which are Dot and Atom respectively. Now, 364 00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: Polka Dot and Cosmos are similar to the smart contract 365 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,760 Speaker 1: platforms we mentioned above, but they work in a slightly 366 00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:48,840 Speaker 1: different way. And I'm not going to get too deep 367 00:21:48,880 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: into that here, but they're essentially they're essentially interruptability platforms 368 00:21:54,080 --> 00:21:59,720 Speaker 1: that say that again, interoperability interruptabilit of them. They're they're 369 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: into rock probability platforms that connect other blockchains together so 370 00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:05,480 Speaker 1: you don't you don't kind of build on top of them, 371 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,240 Speaker 1: you build blockchains that then sort of plug into them, 372 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:11,560 Speaker 1: and hence that hence the name sort of Cosmos hub. 373 00:22:12,119 --> 00:22:13,800 Speaker 1: It kind of acts as a you know, as a 374 00:22:13,800 --> 00:22:16,960 Speaker 1: central sort of hub the spine. Yeah, like that, you know, 375 00:22:17,000 --> 00:22:18,800 Speaker 1: the hub of a wheel. And then think of all 376 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:23,439 Speaker 1: these other blockchains, Yeah, exactly, And they're sometimes referred to 377 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 1: rather than layer ones, which what which what we call 378 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:28,679 Speaker 1: all those other ones are likes of Etherum, Cardaro, Solana, 379 00:22:28,720 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: et cetera. Those are layer ones, Polka Dot, and Cosmos. 380 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,640 Speaker 1: A lot of people think of them more as layer 381 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 1: zeros that you then build can build layer ones on 382 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:41,879 Speaker 1: the it's the framework. Yeah, yeah, so you can, I 383 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 1: think for the sake of for the sake of categorization, 384 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:46,600 Speaker 1: you can include dot and Atom in the smart contract 385 00:22:46,600 --> 00:22:49,240 Speaker 1: coin bucket. But it is important to draw that. It's 386 00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 1: just to be clear. Have you have you categorized these 387 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:56,600 Speaker 1: or is there some sort of general consensus around all 388 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:00,240 Speaker 1: of these That's a good question. There is, there is 389 00:23:00,280 --> 00:23:02,439 Speaker 1: a lot of general consensus. One of the reasons I 390 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 1: wanted to do this episode is because I feel that 391 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: it can be a little fuzzy sometimes. So I think 392 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 1: it's great because it's it's it's sometimes you hear a 393 00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: lot of these coins or tokens and you have no 394 00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: idea what they're about. Yeah, and you need to just 395 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,960 Speaker 1: be able to go, okay, cool, I vaguely know that 396 00:23:29,080 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 1: is something and this is what the the the project 397 00:23:32,520 --> 00:23:35,159 Speaker 1: is about. Yeah, and this is great to sort of 398 00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: go okay, cool, I now know these are the main 399 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 1: types of things. There's some with gray areas, but it's good. 400 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:45,200 Speaker 1: It's it's really it really enables you to sort of 401 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: just have a bigger macro view of of of a 402 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 1: lot of the brands out there. Yeah. I think I 403 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: think if you're if you're looking at a coin or 404 00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 1: a token for the first time, probably the best thing 405 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 1: that you can do is to first of all, I think, okay, 406 00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: what category, what does it do? Yeah, what does it do? 407 00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:07,080 Speaker 1: What is its use case? Because once you've once you've 408 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 1: established that, then you know, you know certain things done 409 00:24:11,040 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: a bit of research, you've done a little bit of research, 410 00:24:13,320 --> 00:24:15,680 Speaker 1: and then you can ape into your heart's desiren. No 411 00:24:15,800 --> 00:24:18,639 Speaker 1: you can't, um, but yeah, I think it's it's the 412 00:24:18,680 --> 00:24:20,840 Speaker 1: first step to understanding what this thing is that you 413 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: that you're looking at, or you know possibly can and 414 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:26,439 Speaker 1: naturally there's going to be maybe some more categories that 415 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:30,439 Speaker 1: come up. Yeah, and yeah, if you look on if 416 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,960 Speaker 1: you go onto something like coin Gecko, there there is 417 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: a category's tab. You get quite a long list, and 418 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,680 Speaker 1: it's a little bit confusing. I think often they're categorized 419 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 1: via the via the ecosystem, often by the layer one 420 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,199 Speaker 1: that they run on, and it's it's not it's it 421 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: can be quite techy. Yeah, yeah, and I felt that 422 00:24:48,960 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: this would be useful just to try and find, if possible, 423 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:55,720 Speaker 1: some quite big categories that we can fit a lot into. 424 00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,240 Speaker 1: And then obviously there's there's going to be nuanced between 425 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: every single project. Okay, so the next category of cryptocurrency 426 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: coins is privacy coins. And again we've touched on these before, 427 00:25:07,280 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 1: and especially Minero, which is obviously Montneral, which is obviously 428 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:14,080 Speaker 1: the big one. Now, as if it wasn't obvious, these 429 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:18,920 Speaker 1: are coins which preserve user privacy, that is, that is 430 00:25:18,960 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 1: what they are designed to do. So remember that most 431 00:25:22,400 --> 00:25:27,239 Speaker 1: cryptocurrency transactions aren't as private as many people think. This 432 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,120 Speaker 1: is a common misconception again something we've talked about before. 433 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 1: Most of them can be easily tracked using a blockchain explorer. 434 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:38,239 Speaker 1: So for instance, if I send some bitcoin to you, 435 00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,560 Speaker 1: if I send you some BTC, then that transaction will 436 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,000 Speaker 1: show up on chain. Now, I might be sending that 437 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,680 Speaker 1: from a wallet that doesn't have you know, that doesn't 438 00:25:47,720 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 1: have my name attached to it, so you can't necessarily 439 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:53,439 Speaker 1: see who is sending what to whom, but you can track. 440 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:55,960 Speaker 1: You can watch those you know, you can watch those 441 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: transactions happen. And even if you don't have your real 442 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: idea ty attached to your wallet, it can be still 443 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 1: linked to you with a bit of detective works. So 444 00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:07,640 Speaker 1: if you've used the service, for instance, like a cryptocurrency 445 00:26:07,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 1: exchange that has some of your personal details, you can 446 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,640 Speaker 1: be traced when that wallet interacts with that service. Now, 447 00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: this is how a lot of a lot of ne'er 448 00:26:18,520 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: do wells, if you like, have being caught out. You'll 449 00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:24,760 Speaker 1: get someone demanding some random you know, a ransomware attack 450 00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:28,960 Speaker 1: or something like that, demanding payment in bitcoin. So the 451 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:32,360 Speaker 1: bitcoin is is sent to their bitcoin address. They then 452 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 1: got some bitcoin sitting there. They want to they want 453 00:26:34,400 --> 00:26:38,080 Speaker 1: to cash out into interfere it say, into dollars. Perhaps 454 00:26:38,800 --> 00:26:41,000 Speaker 1: they get caught when they're doing that because they have 455 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:44,720 Speaker 1: to interact with an exchange which you requires a y 456 00:26:44,760 --> 00:26:47,040 Speaker 1: C you know, know your customer or all that sort 457 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:49,800 Speaker 1: of stuff. So they're often they're often caught out like that. 458 00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: And what you often get is, especially in the last 459 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:57,479 Speaker 1: few months, we've had a lot of hacks in defy 460 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 1: and decentralized finance, had a lot of defied protocol is 461 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,920 Speaker 1: getting hacked and in some cases like hundreds of millions 462 00:27:03,920 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: of dollars worth of crypto being stolen, and what happens 463 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:11,480 Speaker 1: is that crypto then kind of sits there in these 464 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:14,280 Speaker 1: wallets that everyone can see in the attack as wallet, 465 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: and the attacker is sort of like, right, I've now 466 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:20,159 Speaker 1: got all this crypto. The problem is it can all 467 00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 1: be traced. So if I try and spect even a 468 00:27:23,000 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 1: paint squib goes off in an armored vehicle hoist, you've 469 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:32,560 Speaker 1: got this neon pink cash that you can't really it's 470 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:36,879 Speaker 1: still sort of but everyone's like, I don't want to 471 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:41,159 Speaker 1: take this. Yeah, that's exactly right, and yeah, so you 472 00:27:41,280 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: have these kind of you have this kind of tainted 473 00:27:44,119 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: crypto and it becomes very very difficult to get and 474 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,600 Speaker 1: of course impossible for them to cash out. So obviously 475 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: privacy coins have sprung up to well, not to fulfill 476 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: the purpose of making of making bad people bad people's 477 00:27:59,600 --> 00:28:04,000 Speaker 1: lives here, but privacy coins, you know, were invented so 478 00:28:04,040 --> 00:28:07,600 Speaker 1: as people could transact privately. And as again, as I've 479 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,480 Speaker 1: said before, like being able to transact privately, I think 480 00:28:10,600 --> 00:28:13,200 Speaker 1: is really really important because it's not a case of 481 00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:15,440 Speaker 1: a world if you've done nothing wrong, you've got nothing 482 00:28:15,480 --> 00:28:19,320 Speaker 1: to hide. It's you know, your transactions, what you spend 483 00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:22,880 Speaker 1: your money on, personal thing exactly. Yeah, it's a very 484 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:27,680 Speaker 1: it's a very personal, very revealing thing. And I wouldn't 485 00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: want anyone looking at my bank statements, for instance, even 486 00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:34,400 Speaker 1: though I've got nothing to hide. You know, my bank 487 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: statements tell a story about me, which I think should 488 00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 1: be private, you know, even from the grounds of traceability, 489 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: I suppose, you know, if you can see that I 490 00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:46,239 Speaker 1: bought my lunch in pretormj on this particular day, you know, 491 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: it's it's sensitive information. So these privacy coins you donate 492 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,520 Speaker 1: your money too, is not really anyone's business. Yeah, you 493 00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:56,960 Speaker 1: know what I mean. Yeah, so I want to donate 494 00:28:57,000 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: to this charity or this political party or this drug dealer. 495 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: You know, some people may take issue with Yeah, Um, yes, 496 00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,800 Speaker 1: so privacy coins are you know, they're a big deal 497 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:14,480 Speaker 1: and they use various different techniques, various very very clever 498 00:29:14,520 --> 00:29:16,640 Speaker 1: and advanced tech. One of the mains used for it. 499 00:29:16,640 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously there is the big one which we 500 00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:21,840 Speaker 1: kind of touched on, which is sex workers and stuff 501 00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:26,760 Speaker 1: like that. Um what what, Well, maybe this is just 502 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: an indication of my mind, but I can't do it. 503 00:29:30,400 --> 00:29:32,440 Speaker 1: It's what are the others? I mean, it may be 504 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:36,680 Speaker 1: done into political parties or charities or or I think 505 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: that's a big one. Yeah, I think it's really I 506 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:44,080 Speaker 1: think a privacy coin. Using a privacy coin has you know, 507 00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:47,160 Speaker 1: has as many different possible uses as there are different 508 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,920 Speaker 1: types of transaction. Let's face it, some people will be 509 00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,880 Speaker 1: using it for illegal stuff. Some people may use it 510 00:29:53,920 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: to buy I don't know, medical marijuana online or something 511 00:29:57,160 --> 00:30:01,560 Speaker 1: like that, or non medical ma juana online or there 512 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,240 Speaker 1: are a lot of different uses for privacy coins. But 513 00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: I think, you know, it's it's it's unique to the user. 514 00:30:07,560 --> 00:30:09,280 Speaker 1: You may just you may just want you may just 515 00:30:09,320 --> 00:30:12,160 Speaker 1: feel that you don't want someone to have oversight of 516 00:30:12,240 --> 00:30:16,480 Speaker 1: your financial transactions. And I think that's entirely fair enough. 517 00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 1: So yeah, as we said, Manero's xmr is is the 518 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,440 Speaker 1: biggest privacy coined by market cap. It's also the most 519 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:26,200 Speaker 1: well known. It's got some seriously impressive tech which I 520 00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: won't even try and go into here. I think we'll 521 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:31,800 Speaker 1: do a standalone episode on privacy coins and Manara at 522 00:30:31,800 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 1: some point. Um. There are other sorts of privacy privacy 523 00:30:36,760 --> 00:30:40,920 Speaker 1: focus cryptocurrencies that work in slightly different ways, and most 524 00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:44,880 Speaker 1: of them aren't technically coins, So again this is something 525 00:30:44,920 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: we'll look at when we cover privacy privacy focused projects 526 00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: if you like, in more detail. Um. And it's also 527 00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,880 Speaker 1: again as I mentioned earlier, worth pointing out that Dash 528 00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,920 Speaker 1: also has some privacy features. That was one of its 529 00:30:57,920 --> 00:30:59,880 Speaker 1: that was one of its attractions for a lot of people. 530 00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: And actually, more recently, light Coin implemented some privacy features too. 531 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,840 Speaker 1: It had an upgrade called Nimble Wimble Harry Potter thing, 532 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:14,840 Speaker 1: And so they can both light Coin and Dash can 533 00:31:14,880 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 1: be said to have a foot in the privacy bucket. 534 00:31:17,200 --> 00:31:19,400 Speaker 1: But these privacy features that they got are very much 535 00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:23,080 Speaker 1: opt in. So there are things you can do to 536 00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 1: make your transactions more private with Dash and LTC, but 537 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: they're not true privacy coin the equivalent of hiding the 538 00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:38,520 Speaker 1: keypad one. Yeah, that's the that's that's that. That's what 539 00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 1: has been made past the brown envelope. They're brown envelope words. Yeah. Okay, 540 00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 1: let's take one quick break and then we'll look at 541 00:31:48,880 --> 00:32:05,840 Speaker 1: a couple of more categories. We are back for the 542 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:08,120 Speaker 1: third and final part of this episode, and the first 543 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:11,040 Speaker 1: category we are going to talk about here is storage 544 00:32:11,320 --> 00:32:17,840 Speaker 1: coins m H storage coins. Storage coins. Now, this is 545 00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:20,880 Speaker 1: a this is a this is a category. Well, I 546 00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: haven't made it up, but I've sort of put it 547 00:32:24,440 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: together for the purposes of this episode because I think 548 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: what we're the territory we're kind of straying into now 549 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 1: is very much like you know, tokens are are going 550 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:36,280 Speaker 1: to be sort of more represented in the categories that 551 00:32:36,280 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: we're going to start talking about. But there are still 552 00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 1: a few interesting projects that are coins, and a few 553 00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:48,640 Speaker 1: of them fall into this bracket basically storage cryptocurrencies, and 554 00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,120 Speaker 1: this is a sector which is growing in popularity, and 555 00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:55,080 Speaker 1: these are projects but basically aimed to store data and 556 00:32:55,520 --> 00:33:01,680 Speaker 1: centralized matter. Like I was really struggling of, We've done 557 00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:05,120 Speaker 1: the values, so it's not that storage storage like you 558 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 1: pay for storage like a shipping container. Shipping, contain a coin, 559 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,480 Speaker 1: contain a coin. No, no, this is yeah, this is 560 00:33:12,560 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: data storage um in decentralized data storage. And this data 561 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,240 Speaker 1: can obviously be anything. It can be people's personal files. 562 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 1: It can be company data, which is obviously quite sensitive. 563 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:27,360 Speaker 1: I mean I suppose like how valuable data is. Yeah, 564 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,360 Speaker 1: this makes complete sense. Yeah, it can also be This 565 00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:34,320 Speaker 1: data can also be blockchain records themselves. Because you'll remember 566 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 1: from some inception. Wait a minute, you're storing blockchain on 567 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:47,880 Speaker 1: a blockchain, Christopher Nolan, take note. Yeah, so blockchain. When 568 00:33:47,880 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 1: we talked about blockchain, you'll remember, as each each block 569 00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:53,800 Speaker 1: contains transactional data, and as the blockchain goes along, more 570 00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: and more data is stored and is created and then 571 00:33:57,040 --> 00:34:02,360 Speaker 1: stored and for validate on a blockchain network, you know, 572 00:34:02,400 --> 00:34:05,160 Speaker 1: for for those participating in the network, they have to 573 00:34:05,320 --> 00:34:08,160 Speaker 1: store a copy of this record so as they can 574 00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:11,520 Speaker 1: refer back to it to make sure transactions are valid. Now, 575 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,400 Speaker 1: that can over time amount to quite a lot of data. 576 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:19,440 Speaker 1: So at some some blockchain projects which will we'll talk 577 00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:21,960 Speaker 1: about in the indust or so, actually you know, need 578 00:34:22,000 --> 00:34:24,399 Speaker 1: to need quite a lot of data storage. Anyhow, we'll 579 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:27,000 Speaker 1: come back to that. So decentralized data storage is a 580 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 1: really useful resource because we know that centralized data is 581 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:36,359 Speaker 1: very vulnerable, UM, you know, manipulation, theft, corruption, whatever it is. 582 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,120 Speaker 1: Now here's an interesting example which I found, which I 583 00:34:40,160 --> 00:34:42,560 Speaker 1: remember hearing about and then I rediscovered when I was 584 00:34:42,600 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: researching a particular storage project. UM In early the US 585 00:34:48,400 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: National Archives were discovered altering They were basically caught in 586 00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 1: the act of altering an image from seventeen and what 587 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:00,760 Speaker 1: they were doing that some photos had been aken of 588 00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,120 Speaker 1: the Women's March that took place. I think it was Washington, 589 00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: d c. In in seen and what they were doing 590 00:35:09,080 --> 00:35:11,359 Speaker 1: that there were there were plaqucards on this women's march. 591 00:35:11,440 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: It was a kind of it was inspired by Trump 592 00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: getting into the White House UM and a lot of 593 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: these a lot of these marchers were holding up placards 594 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:22,880 Speaker 1: which were saying sort of things about Trump, Trump, is 595 00:35:23,120 --> 00:35:26,399 Speaker 1: this trumpet to that down with Trump, etcetera. I didn't 596 00:35:26,400 --> 00:35:28,600 Speaker 1: think it was being done from a political angle, but 597 00:35:28,640 --> 00:35:31,359 Speaker 1: basically staff from the U s National Archives were found 598 00:35:31,360 --> 00:35:34,160 Speaker 1: to be blurring out parts of the photos that the 599 00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 1: placard parts of the photos so it would say Dan 600 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:39,600 Speaker 1: with and then the name Trump was blurred out, and 601 00:35:39,640 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 1: I think they were doing this. I think their justification 602 00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,759 Speaker 1: was that they didn't want it to be political. You know, 603 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 1: it wasn't. It was a photo from this time. They 604 00:35:48,280 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 1: didn't want the you know, because because I guess, well, yeah, exactly, 605 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: this is and this is the point that was that 606 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 1: was that was made in opposition to it, and which 607 00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 1: they later conceded. It's like, yeah, but this is a 608 00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,720 Speaker 1: history oracle moment. It doesn't matter, Okay. You know, Trump 609 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: is a very divisive figure, and I guess they were 610 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:08,760 Speaker 1: maybe trying, you know, to sort of steer clear of 611 00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:10,799 Speaker 1: that kind of side of it. But yeah, I mean, 612 00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,719 Speaker 1: this is what happened, and that that's what those plaquards said. 613 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:15,759 Speaker 1: So you can't you know, you can't alter them. You 614 00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:19,320 Speaker 1: can't alter history. But this alteration of history is something 615 00:36:19,360 --> 00:36:22,160 Speaker 1: that's been done a lot. And actually the Soviets they 616 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:24,439 Speaker 1: say that the winners, right history, don't they? Yeah, history 617 00:36:24,480 --> 00:36:27,480 Speaker 1: is when, yeah, history is written by the victors. But 618 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,040 Speaker 1: the Soviets in in were particularly good at this. The 619 00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:35,080 Speaker 1: Russians they used to alter images a lot to remove 620 00:36:35,120 --> 00:36:37,840 Speaker 1: people who had fallen from favor. So if you know, 621 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:42,080 Speaker 1: if so and so had had displeased Stalin and basically 622 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,640 Speaker 1: met his end in a seller. I think North Korea 623 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,200 Speaker 1: do that as well, don't Yeah, I think yeah, almost certainly. 624 00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:51,239 Speaker 1: And you know, they there are these there are there 625 00:36:51,239 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: are these photos in existence whereby they you know, they 626 00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:57,480 Speaker 1: basically just take someone out of it. You know, you'll 627 00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,879 Speaker 1: see Stalin and then some some dude next to him, 628 00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: and then you'll see a later photo which was published 629 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: in this dude has just gone and it's you know, 630 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,760 Speaker 1: basically written out of history. And there's a great quote 631 00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:12,360 Speaker 1: from by George Orwell it says, who controls the past 632 00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:15,000 Speaker 1: controls the future. Yeah, and this goes back to what 633 00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:17,640 Speaker 1: we were talking about blockchain in general. You know the 634 00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,359 Speaker 1: fact that there is no single point of failure. There 635 00:37:20,440 --> 00:37:22,400 Speaker 1: is there is no way that you can you know, 636 00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:25,600 Speaker 1: you can go to one particular place and corrupt the 637 00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:30,040 Speaker 1: network from there. That's that's one of blockchain's great strengths. So, yeah, 638 00:37:30,120 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: this idea of being able to store data in a 639 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:36,400 Speaker 1: decentralized manner so you have a record of the truth 640 00:37:37,480 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: information like private was the when they have the Freedom 641 00:37:42,200 --> 00:37:45,360 Speaker 1: of Information Act when you can just request that data. 642 00:37:45,440 --> 00:37:47,960 Speaker 1: But you know, so it's it is there and you 643 00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:51,000 Speaker 1: can be well and you can be confident data you're 644 00:37:51,000 --> 00:37:54,560 Speaker 1: getting is redacted. Yeah, it has not been has not 645 00:37:54,640 --> 00:37:59,319 Speaker 1: been tampered with, a worlded and yeah, it's it's it's 646 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:02,200 Speaker 1: really you know, it's more important than ever we produce. 647 00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,880 Speaker 1: What are some of the big players and that. Okay, 648 00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:09,319 Speaker 1: so there are a few storage cryptocurrencies. We've got the 649 00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:13,399 Speaker 1: likes of file coin and see a coin, which are 650 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:16,360 Speaker 1: both been around for a few years now. The latest 651 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,319 Speaker 1: example and the one that I was talking about that 652 00:38:18,360 --> 00:38:20,440 Speaker 1: when I was researching and found this business with the 653 00:38:20,520 --> 00:38:24,040 Speaker 1: u S archives are weave and it's coin a R 654 00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:28,840 Speaker 1: is a sort of newer project. Now these are all 655 00:38:29,600 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: these are all crypto coins. They will exist on their 656 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:35,200 Speaker 1: own blockchain. And yeah, they all do. They all do 657 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:39,160 Speaker 1: this this thing of decentralized data storage. And actually I've 658 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,719 Speaker 1: been using it a lot to um and also Dan, 659 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,920 Speaker 1: one of our researches at the Coin Bureau, he showed 660 00:38:44,960 --> 00:38:46,759 Speaker 1: he was he was showing me how he was doing 661 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: it too. Like we've started storing stuff. When we see 662 00:38:50,200 --> 00:38:53,879 Speaker 1: an interesting article, we just store it, take it straight 663 00:38:53,920 --> 00:38:56,319 Speaker 1: across into our weave and we you know, then we 664 00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: can be confident that it's been stored and not tampered with. 665 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: And actually what a lot of people were doing when 666 00:39:02,040 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 1: Russia invaded Ukraine back in February. They've started uploading loads 667 00:39:07,080 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: of stories, loads of video, photos, other media and stuff. 668 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,560 Speaker 1: They've started uploading it to our We've so as so 669 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:16,600 Speaker 1: as you've got this indisputable record of what happens, and 670 00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 1: that is going to be so so valuable when when 671 00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,919 Speaker 1: you know when the time comes, when the trials come, Yeah, 672 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,279 Speaker 1: and when you know when someone sits down to write 673 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:29,080 Speaker 1: the history. Because that's as I was saying, like I 674 00:39:29,120 --> 00:39:32,560 Speaker 1: was using it in in the sort of the blase, 675 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:36,040 Speaker 1: well this this celebrity in the UK said something that 676 00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:40,239 Speaker 1: might be constituted as a little bit offensive, but and 677 00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: that's really in the in the grand scheme of things, 678 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:45,120 Speaker 1: not that big a deal. When you're talking about potential 679 00:39:45,239 --> 00:39:48,520 Speaker 1: war crimes, that's when you need to have it being 680 00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:52,440 Speaker 1: in in unrefutable Yeah, this is what happened. This is 681 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:55,399 Speaker 1: where it happened. And you can't edit this because it's 682 00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:59,279 Speaker 1: on here is here is actual evidence that can't be Yeah, 683 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,000 Speaker 1: that can't be de eaci it or it can't be 684 00:40:01,040 --> 00:40:03,840 Speaker 1: tampered with or anything like that. You know. So it's 685 00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:06,759 Speaker 1: it's really important. And I think as we as more 686 00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:09,120 Speaker 1: and more stuff gets digitized, as we live more and 687 00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:12,360 Speaker 1: more of our lives online, it's just storing it safely. 688 00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,640 Speaker 1: It's propaganda proof information almost because you know, you get 689 00:40:15,719 --> 00:40:22,440 Speaker 1: you get so many conflicting um stories about videos that 690 00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,919 Speaker 1: you see like okay, well this was actually from ten 691 00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,319 Speaker 1: years ago, and it's not actually what is being said 692 00:40:28,360 --> 00:40:31,040 Speaker 1: in this in this article or in this tweet or 693 00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: in this whatever. You know, Like the White Hats is 694 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,279 Speaker 1: something that you know, I don't know if you've seen this. 695 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:37,640 Speaker 1: There's there's a group called the White Hats, and there's 696 00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,279 Speaker 1: arguments whether they're they're good or bad or whatever. It's 697 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:42,319 Speaker 1: it's just it's sort of confusing for someone who just 698 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,359 Speaker 1: wants to try and find out the truth. Yeah, it's 699 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: it's this is amazing. Yeah, it's I think it's going 700 00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:51,879 Speaker 1: to be a real growth area of cryptocurrency. It's yeah, 701 00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:55,839 Speaker 1: are we Visit's gonna be really useful to journalism, yeah. Yeah. 702 00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 1: And a record that you can that you can absolutely trust, 703 00:40:59,320 --> 00:41:01,919 Speaker 1: that hasn't been yeah, that hasn't been tampered with. It's 704 00:41:01,960 --> 00:41:04,719 Speaker 1: really really important. Um And yeah, as I say, there's 705 00:41:04,719 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: our weave. There's also file coins see a coin and 706 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,280 Speaker 1: stuff like that. There are again a few more storage cryptocurrencies, 707 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,560 Speaker 1: but they're more they're more tokens as well. And as 708 00:41:13,600 --> 00:41:16,280 Speaker 1: I say, we're just kind of just kind of focusing 709 00:41:16,280 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 1: on coins here at the moment. So that's storage cryptocurrencies. 710 00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,440 Speaker 1: There was one I want to kind of sort of 711 00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:26,239 Speaker 1: wrap it up now rather with rather than look at 712 00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,680 Speaker 1: any other sort of category itself. Coins and tokens are 713 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: starting to blur a bit together. Now we're at the 714 00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: point where the categories start to be mainly filled by 715 00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,120 Speaker 1: tokens rather than coins, is what I mean. So again 716 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: we'll look at the massive sort of token ecosystem in 717 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: the next episode. I just want to point out a 718 00:41:44,120 --> 00:41:47,919 Speaker 1: couple of kind of outlying coins though that do fit 719 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,920 Speaker 1: into that do fit into their own particular categories, but 720 00:41:52,520 --> 00:41:57,200 Speaker 1: those categories are more filled with tokens. Makes sense, so um. 721 00:41:57,640 --> 00:42:00,000 Speaker 1: The one I want to point out that most people 722 00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:02,600 Speaker 1: might notice, especially if they take a quick look at 723 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:05,840 Speaker 1: the top cryptos by market cap, is binance coin. To 724 00:42:05,880 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: take a BnB. Now, this is the native coin of 725 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: the Binance ecosystem, and Binance is most well known as 726 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:19,040 Speaker 1: the biggest crypto exchange out there um and Binance itself 727 00:42:19,120 --> 00:42:21,480 Speaker 1: is the fifth largest crypto by market cap, and this 728 00:42:21,600 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 1: is used primarily to pay trading fees exchange trading fees 729 00:42:26,440 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: on the Binance exchange. Now, interestingly, BnB actually began life 730 00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,680 Speaker 1: as a token on Ethereum, but it was later migrated 731 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: over to the Binance chain, so it is now officially 732 00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:40,640 Speaker 1: a coin. It lives on its own blockchain. I don't know, 733 00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:42,799 Speaker 1: you can do that, just go okay, cool, We'll start 734 00:42:42,840 --> 00:42:46,200 Speaker 1: off here and then we'll jump to how do you 735 00:42:46,239 --> 00:42:49,799 Speaker 1: set up? I've no idea. It's not a question, but 736 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:52,400 Speaker 1: not not for how do you do? How do you do? 737 00:42:52,680 --> 00:42:56,680 Speaker 1: I don't know, I'm not entirely sure centralized that like, yeah, 738 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,359 Speaker 1: I can't imagine it was something done done quickly. But yeah, 739 00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,319 Speaker 1: binances recently, you know, in the past few years, it 740 00:43:02,360 --> 00:43:05,160 Speaker 1: has built the Binance chain, and it's you know, Binance 741 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:08,160 Speaker 1: is more than just a crypto exchange. You know, it 742 00:43:08,200 --> 00:43:10,759 Speaker 1: now has its own chain, a bit like Ethereum that 743 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 1: you can build you can build projects on top of, 744 00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,879 Speaker 1: issue tokens on top of but b NB is its 745 00:43:16,000 --> 00:43:21,239 Speaker 1: native coin, and it's yeah, the same way that is 746 00:43:21,280 --> 00:43:23,759 Speaker 1: the native coin of ethereum, and yeah, b n B 747 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: it does have use cases beyond actual you know, beyond 748 00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:30,680 Speaker 1: paying exchange fees. And actually binance employees can apparently be 749 00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: paid in b mbum, and I think quite a few 750 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:37,319 Speaker 1: of them did quite well when BMB really pumped a 751 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:45,480 Speaker 1: few years ago with bmb you know, quite quite um. 752 00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:51,600 Speaker 1: So binance coin falls into the category of exchange coins. 753 00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 1: But it's more, most exchange coins are actually tokens. Most 754 00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,440 Speaker 1: exchange cryptocurrencies token so that is a category will look 755 00:43:58,440 --> 00:44:02,399 Speaker 1: at in more detail next episode. And I also want 756 00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:05,960 Speaker 1: to finally mention our good old friend doge coin, and 757 00:44:06,239 --> 00:44:09,800 Speaker 1: doge coin is in fact a coin. We've met it before, 758 00:44:09,840 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 1: We know what it's all about. It's famous for being 759 00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:17,200 Speaker 1: the first meme coin, obviously, but again, most meme coins 760 00:44:17,239 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: are now tokens though, because primarily very easier to create. Yeah, 761 00:44:22,360 --> 00:44:28,080 Speaker 1: it's it's a dog is actually its own coin. Yeah yeah, which, yeah, 762 00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: which I feel I've been doing dog disservice because I 763 00:44:31,400 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: thought it was just I'm sure many people actually many 764 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,280 Speaker 1: many in the doge coin community would would would support 765 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:40,440 Speaker 1: you on that one, you know and say that actually 766 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:43,879 Speaker 1: that kind of it elevates it to to something more 767 00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: than a mean, this is what a lot of those 768 00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:48,120 Speaker 1: people will say. It's like, no, it's actually a coin. 769 00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,720 Speaker 1: It's not just some token that someone's rustled up overnight. 770 00:44:51,800 --> 00:44:54,520 Speaker 1: You know, it is a genuine you know, it is 771 00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:56,880 Speaker 1: a genuine ecosystem. If you like, there is you know, 772 00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,600 Speaker 1: there is more to doge coin than meets the eye. 773 00:44:59,640 --> 00:45:01,360 Speaker 1: I did a I've done a couple of videos on 774 00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:05,319 Speaker 1: dose coin and and kind of comparing it with Sheba eu, 775 00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:09,239 Speaker 1: which is it's compared to and I mean neither of 776 00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:12,520 Speaker 1: them are cryptocurrencies that I'd buy, and Sheba you know, 777 00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: is obviously is a token, but there is I will 778 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: say that there is actually more to them than just 779 00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's not just there's a lot of work 780 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:24,480 Speaker 1: to set up a coin. Yeah, so it's a lot 781 00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:27,279 Speaker 1: of work to just do it for a for a lull. Yeah, 782 00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:30,399 Speaker 1: it is a lot of work for a loll Yeah. Yeah. 783 00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:33,279 Speaker 1: But then that's the internet that yeah, I mean, yeah, 784 00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: the the Internet is just full of people with too 785 00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,560 Speaker 1: much time on Yes, we really should go and get 786 00:45:38,600 --> 00:45:43,520 Speaker 1: a proper job. Okay, So that brings us to that 787 00:45:43,560 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 1: brings us to the end of this episode. So I 788 00:45:45,239 --> 00:45:49,319 Speaker 1: think we've we've covered cryptocurrency coins there, so next week 789 00:45:49,360 --> 00:45:51,880 Speaker 1: will be yeah, I kind of deeper dive into the 790 00:45:51,960 --> 00:45:55,959 Speaker 1: into the wonderful world of cryptocurrency tokens. So but yeah, 791 00:45:56,040 --> 00:45:59,040 Speaker 1: I hope that's been useful. There was great, excellent, excellent. 792 00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,160 Speaker 1: Well I'm gonna really look up the coin that I've 793 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:06,279 Speaker 1: already forgotten the name of cool story. What was it 794 00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:11,200 Speaker 1: called the um they are they are are We've yeah, yeah, yeah, 795 00:46:11,200 --> 00:46:13,400 Speaker 1: have you look into it? Yeah, really really interesting project. 796 00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:17,800 Speaker 1: And yeah, other storage cryptocurrencies are available of course. Anyway, folks, 797 00:46:17,800 --> 00:46:19,959 Speaker 1: thanks for listening. I hope you enjoyed that and found 798 00:46:20,000 --> 00:46:22,000 Speaker 1: it useful, and I hope you can join us next 799 00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:27,279 Speaker 1: time for the cryptocurrency tokens the different categories of see 800 00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,480 Speaker 1: you next week. See you then. 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