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Tirerac dot 18 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Com is the way tire buying should be. Well here, 19 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: we are set to go, set to kick off the 20 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,120 Speaker 1: second half quote of the MLB season. We got big 21 00:00:58,160 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 1: basketball news, we got big football. But I want to 22 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,240 Speaker 1: welcome back Mike Harmon, who you probably saw. How was 23 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: the Coldplay concert last night? You look like you're having 24 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: a good time. I saw you all over the place today. 25 00:01:08,240 --> 00:01:11,880 Speaker 2: The hell of a run. Yeah, I mean I didn't 26 00:01:11,880 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 2: expect to see you, but. 27 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,600 Speaker 5: I was the guy before the guy. But yeah, whatever 28 00:01:15,640 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 5: you need to do with that, have had it. 29 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: Just making sure because it looked like you were having 30 00:01:19,600 --> 00:01:21,160 Speaker 1: a good time. And then you know, I don't know, 31 00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:22,680 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, apparently it was a thing today. 32 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 6: Evidently got of a big deal. 33 00:01:25,520 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 5: It's the first time Coldplay has been relevant other than 34 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:30,760 Speaker 5: that that Beatles movie that came out. 35 00:01:31,080 --> 00:01:35,240 Speaker 1: Now, wait, how long a Viva Levita couldn't have been 36 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 1: twenty years ago? No, no, no, no, no, come on, 37 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,040 Speaker 1: Viva lavin no way, Viva Viva Levita was like maybe 38 00:01:42,040 --> 00:01:42,800 Speaker 1: ten years ago. 39 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 2: I think he might be right. 40 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,800 Speaker 1: And wow, that was really fast that Alex Tischer had two. 41 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 6: Thousand and eight. 42 00:01:49,400 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 2: So was that long ago? Wow? So right in the 43 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 2: middle for us. 44 00:01:53,680 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, but any way, two eight seventeen. If we're gonna do. 45 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:01,680 Speaker 2: Math, wells right there right in the middle. 46 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 6: There, right a meeting part of the curve, in the. 47 00:02:04,280 --> 00:02:06,000 Speaker 2: Media, part of that curve. I can't believe it's been 48 00:02:06,000 --> 00:02:06,560 Speaker 2: that long ago. 49 00:02:06,800 --> 00:02:10,160 Speaker 1: I mean, they bring people together in large drogs. But 50 00:02:10,240 --> 00:02:12,840 Speaker 1: do they bring people together or do they they? I 51 00:02:12,880 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: think you can you can argue both sides of the 52 00:02:14,919 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 1: coin on that. 53 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:18,359 Speaker 5: Well, the fact that he issued a statement now about 54 00:02:18,360 --> 00:02:19,639 Speaker 5: it blaming cold. 55 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,240 Speaker 6: Play, and it's cold Plays chuckling at him. 56 00:02:22,360 --> 00:02:24,560 Speaker 2: And we didn't have to be on the Kiss camp. 57 00:02:24,639 --> 00:02:27,120 Speaker 2: We didn't have to be on this. It's not my fault. 58 00:02:27,280 --> 00:02:27,440 Speaker 3: Man. 59 00:02:27,440 --> 00:02:29,600 Speaker 5: It's on the back of the ticket or the digital 60 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 5: representation thereof that you received from wherever you got your tickets, 61 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:36,400 Speaker 5: saying on the back, once you go in, I'll be 62 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,079 Speaker 5: off man. 63 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, you get it. 64 00:02:38,480 --> 00:02:40,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, anything that you can't in other words, basically it 65 00:02:40,720 --> 00:02:43,800 Speaker 1: should just say hey, by holding this ticket, you can't 66 00:02:43,800 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: sue us. 67 00:02:44,680 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 2: Like, that's all we need to say. You don't need 68 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:46,679 Speaker 2: any fine. 69 00:02:46,520 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 6: There's a lot of disclaimers. 70 00:02:47,840 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: Yeah, I could save ink everywhere because people know by 71 00:02:50,880 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 1: this point, just say hey, if you hold this ticket, 72 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:53,919 Speaker 1: you can't sue us. 73 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 2: That's all you need to know. This a everybody knows. 74 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:57,800 Speaker 1: Okay, great, Yeah, don't give about fine print all this stuff, 75 00:02:57,800 --> 00:02:58,520 Speaker 1: blah blah blah. 76 00:02:58,680 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 6: This indentifies us about a lot of stuff. 77 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 2: All it is. 78 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:04,959 Speaker 5: Well, I mean, look, I never got paid for being 79 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 5: part of a video game many many years ago. I 80 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:08,720 Speaker 5: couldn't even get them to give me a free game. 81 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:09,919 Speaker 5: So I mean, what am I gonna do. 82 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 2: If you were on the kiss cam? Maybe? Maybe because 83 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:12,919 Speaker 2: I was. 84 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 6: In the crowd, I was the cheering cam. 85 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 1: But you know what, you look at Mike Harmon, he's 86 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,200 Speaker 1: the guy in purple shorts that's cheering and yelling. 87 00:03:20,240 --> 00:03:22,440 Speaker 5: Well, a couple of years ago I went to a 88 00:03:22,480 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 5: game with my brothers and ended up on camera for 89 00:03:25,440 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 5: quite a while. It became a thing around here, mocking me. 90 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:29,520 Speaker 6: For for a bit. 91 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:31,919 Speaker 2: All right, very nice, Okay. 92 00:03:31,720 --> 00:03:34,520 Speaker 6: I had nothing to do with the incident in question. 93 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,200 Speaker 2: Your brothers have anything to do with it because I 94 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 2: think they might know. 95 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 6: You normally just accuse them of stealing things. 96 00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 5: I don't think they co opted any camera wells at 97 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 5: a cold Play concert. My brothers wouldn't walk across the 98 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 5: street to have anything to do with Coldplay shows. Okay, 99 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:55,240 Speaker 5: cold Play is. Coldplay is very innocuous. 100 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:56,000 Speaker 2: Cold Play is. 101 00:03:56,360 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 6: I'm not demigrating them. I'm just telling you that my 102 00:03:58,560 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 6: brothers are. 103 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 1: It's not something where I say, oh I have this 104 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:06,480 Speaker 1: inventerate hatred. There's this ingrained hatred of cold Play. 105 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: No, this is okay. You could like Coldplay, Okay, I'm 106 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 2: into their stuff. 107 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 1: I don't like that Coldplay doesn't invoke that kind of 108 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: reaction for some many they wouldn't care to walk across 109 00:04:15,240 --> 00:04:18,080 Speaker 1: the street for it. That's how little cold play is 110 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,480 Speaker 1: meant in their respective life and was I like some 111 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: cold play? So I'll just say, hey, would you walk 112 00:04:22,040 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: across the street for something? I might walk across the street. 113 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:26,520 Speaker 2: I mean I might do that. I mean I might not, 114 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: but I might walk away that street. 115 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 5: It depends how big the street is. Are we talking 116 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 5: Vegas streets all right? Because if Vegas streets, probably not. 117 00:04:33,240 --> 00:04:34,840 Speaker 2: That's gonna take me. It sent me forty five minutes 118 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,240 Speaker 2: to walk across the street. Not gonna do it, Not 119 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:36,720 Speaker 2: gonna do it. 120 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,320 Speaker 1: Uh So, yes, you could take your pick tonight again 121 00:04:40,640 --> 00:04:42,880 Speaker 1: waiting for baseball to start tomorrow night. We got big 122 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 1: headlines out of the WNBA, out of the NFL, and 123 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: out of the NBA, A story that. Look, I admit, 124 00:04:50,120 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 1: there's not a lot that really surprises me. But seeing 125 00:04:53,360 --> 00:04:57,159 Speaker 1: this today, I was initially very surprised. 126 00:04:57,520 --> 00:05:00,520 Speaker 2: Then I got it. But to make a decision this fast. 127 00:05:01,240 --> 00:05:06,120 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard is going back home, and by home, I 128 00:05:06,120 --> 00:05:08,680 Speaker 1: mean he's going back to Portland. As he rehabs all 129 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: year from the injury suffered. Look he had he had 130 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: the blood clot as well, he had the torn achilles. 131 00:05:14,839 --> 00:05:17,039 Speaker 1: Missed the playoffs this year for the Bucks, and it 132 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: was an easy exit for Milwaukee out of the playoffs. 133 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: Here Milwaukee buys him out for over one hundred million dollars, 134 00:05:23,440 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 1: and hey, the narrative was Damian Lillard one of the 135 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 1: most exciting players in the NBA who's kind of passed 136 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,800 Speaker 1: his prime a little bit, but still incredibly exciting. He's 137 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: gonna take his time, can rehab on his own back 138 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:36,599 Speaker 1: in Portland with his family, and he'll take his time 139 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:39,520 Speaker 1: picking his next team. He'll take nothing but time. Dah, 140 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: this is a decision that could be a year away. Nope, 141 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,880 Speaker 1: it's already made, as he has decided to go back 142 00:05:45,000 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 1: to Portland for three years and forty two million dollars. Now, 143 00:05:49,800 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: it's not a lot of money, but obviously he's someone 144 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: who is Now you get to your age thirty five 145 00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,360 Speaker 1: year coming off an injury. The Blazers are gonna pay 146 00:05:58,440 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: him this year just to rehab because he's not going 147 00:06:00,720 --> 00:06:03,240 Speaker 1: to play all season long, and they're looking at what's 148 00:06:03,279 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: going to be likely a two year deal. He's also 149 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: getting a no trade clause and now he and Lebron 150 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,800 Speaker 1: James are the only ones in the NBA with no 151 00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:12,719 Speaker 1: trade clauses. 152 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 5: He also also told that money from Milwaukee. I mean, 153 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 5: you know, so he talked about with Bradley Beal yesterday. 154 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 5: It looks smallish. No, no, no, he's still getting a novelty 155 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 5: check from No. 156 00:06:22,560 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: I said when I was. 157 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:26,160 Speaker 1: Getting that he's getting one hundred and thirteen million dollars. 158 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,480 Speaker 1: But this contract, this is what the Blazers are on 159 00:06:28,520 --> 00:06:31,120 Speaker 1: the hook for. And it's three years and forty two million. 160 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: And you know, I'm happy for Damian Lillard. And I'm 161 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: starting to realize that not that I feel guilty, but 162 00:06:40,600 --> 00:06:47,120 Speaker 1: that I feel looking looking back at his career, there 163 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:48,960 Speaker 1: was a lot of players. Let me let me start here. 164 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:50,560 Speaker 1: There's a lot of thoughts in my head. I've had 165 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: a lot of coffee in the last few minutes. So 166 00:06:52,480 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 1: one of the conversations day, yeah, one of the kind 167 00:06:55,279 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: I used to rule. One of the conversations that Rick 168 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: Buker and I've had for a long time, right that 169 00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 1: was on the air, off the air, is about how 170 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: there are a lot of NBA players that enjoy the 171 00:07:05,080 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 1: lifestyle of being an NBA star and the winning is 172 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:12,560 Speaker 1: not something that they're so obsessed with. And look, this 173 00:07:12,640 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: is why players like Kobe and Lebron all cut through 174 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:18,680 Speaker 1: because we know how badly they want to win, right 175 00:07:18,800 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: KD Steph Curry? All right, why we gravitate to these guys. 176 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:23,560 Speaker 1: We talk about it all the time. We know how 177 00:07:23,600 --> 00:07:26,320 Speaker 1: badly they want to win. But not every star is 178 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,200 Speaker 1: like that. And you see many stories of stars who 179 00:07:30,240 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 1: get to the NBA and are great players. But is 180 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,800 Speaker 1: winning their ultimate goal? Winning an NBA title and then 181 00:07:35,800 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: when they win, go win one again? Or is the 182 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: ultimate goal? Hey, this is my dream to play in 183 00:07:41,040 --> 00:07:44,360 Speaker 1: the NBA. I love the lifestyle. Winning is great, but 184 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: if I don't win, it's okay. Like the old Scotti Scheffler, Hey, 185 00:07:47,640 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: winning is not that big a deal. You'ly gonna like 186 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: it for two minutes anyway. And there's a lot of 187 00:07:51,720 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: players who are like that. And now seeing Damian Lillard, 188 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: who had took him forever to leave Portland, and it was, 189 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,280 Speaker 1: you know, kicking and screaming, hey dude, you gotta go. 190 00:08:01,400 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: Man. 191 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: You I'm sick and tired of talking about how great 192 00:08:04,160 --> 00:08:06,320 Speaker 1: a player. You are at ten thirty at night in 193 00:08:06,360 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 1: the West Coast when only you know a dozen Portland 194 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:12,280 Speaker 1: Trail Blazer fans live got to see you go for 195 00:08:12,360 --> 00:08:14,640 Speaker 1: fifty and start hitting stuff from the logo because the 196 00:08:14,680 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 1: Blazers are terrible and they're not on the radar screen. Dude, 197 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: you could be winning titles. Man, you could be going places. 198 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: You could go somewhere. And finally, after years and years 199 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: and years of this, okay, I'll go. And he goes 200 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,360 Speaker 1: to Milwaukee and it doesn't go great, and it didn't 201 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:33,160 Speaker 1: seem like he was ever really happy. His preferred destination 202 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:35,640 Speaker 1: was Miami and he couldn't get there. So now what 203 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:38,319 Speaker 1: does he do? He goes home. Clearly he doesn't care 204 00:08:38,320 --> 00:08:41,040 Speaker 1: about winning. So I wonder how much he ever cared 205 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,520 Speaker 1: about winning. And you know what, sometimes I can say, 206 00:08:43,559 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 1: that's okay, right, it's okay if you if this is 207 00:08:46,280 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 1: the kind of player, but you have to understand if 208 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,160 Speaker 1: you're going to trade for a guy like that, that 209 00:08:49,160 --> 00:08:52,160 Speaker 1: that's what motivates him. And so clearly seeing this with 210 00:08:52,280 --> 00:08:56,360 Speaker 1: Damian Lillard, yeah, already with this injury coming, I want 211 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:58,679 Speaker 1: to go back home. Maybe I never really wanted to 212 00:08:58,760 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: leave to begin with But I want to go back 213 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 1: home to play and play the rest of Mike or 214 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,320 Speaker 1: whatever it is it is, I can still find a joint. 215 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,040 Speaker 2: I'm still gonna go out and try to win every night. 216 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: But am I I'm but if I don't make it 217 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: far in the playoffs, okay, if I don't win the title, 218 00:09:11,520 --> 00:09:14,120 Speaker 1: it's okay. I'm gonna try to win wherever I can. 219 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: But am I gonna go crazy about building a winner? 220 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: Or am I gonna go and just enjoy the rest 221 00:09:18,440 --> 00:09:20,679 Speaker 1: of my career? That's Damian Lillard and. 222 00:09:20,640 --> 00:09:23,160 Speaker 2: I feel like we've we we've we've. 223 00:09:23,040 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: Underestimated or or misappropriated him into the into the the 224 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: the group of players where it's like, hey, you're a 225 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:33,960 Speaker 1: difference maker, go in a championship. You of course burn 226 00:09:34,040 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 1: to go win. He doesn't burn to go win. He 227 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: burns to play. He loves to play, He loves the game. 228 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:40,319 Speaker 1: He does incredible things in Portland. He's one of the 229 00:09:40,320 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: most love beloved players in franchise history in the area. 230 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,840 Speaker 1: But he's not quite wired like the elite, like we've 231 00:09:47,840 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 1: come up with Kobe and Lebron and Shaq and all 232 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: these guys that want to go and win and win 233 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: and win, and Steph Curry and give me another title, 234 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: and give me another title. He's just not that guy. 235 00:09:57,000 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: And I think now that we see him decide very quickly, Hey, 236 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 1: I'm okay going back home, and I fight it win, 237 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: I to win. That's kind of the guy he has 238 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,080 Speaker 1: been throughout his career. Wasn't so much loyal to a 239 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 1: frand I found a place I like to play, and 240 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:11,079 Speaker 1: I like playing here, and that's enough for me. And 241 00:10:11,440 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 1: that's kind of Damian Lillard. That's who he's always been. 242 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:16,280 Speaker 1: But it took to get to this point where he 243 00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 1: goes back home for us to really see it. 244 00:10:18,559 --> 00:10:19,160 Speaker 2: That three paces. 245 00:10:19,280 --> 00:10:21,480 Speaker 5: He might always have that moment of clarity along the 246 00:10:21,480 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 5: way too, you know, to everything turn, turn turn. I'm 247 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 5: gonna quote the birds all night now, but we or 248 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,000 Speaker 5: the Bible, I guess they took that from But you 249 00:10:30,320 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 5: look at the situation, right, he goes home where his 250 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 5: kids are, so you know, that was swirling in the 251 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:38,880 Speaker 5: background of a lot of this when he requested the 252 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:41,400 Speaker 5: trade in twenty three. I think it was only the 253 00:10:41,400 --> 00:10:44,560 Speaker 5: heat that really came out and all the reporting as 254 00:10:44,559 --> 00:10:47,040 Speaker 5: a preferred destination goes to Milwaukee. 255 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 6: How much you know this. 256 00:10:48,679 --> 00:10:51,240 Speaker 5: Now you can have the side conversation of how much 257 00:10:51,240 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 5: of this is Gianni's telling him, Yeah, I'm gonna be 258 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 5: here when you get back. 259 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 6: So you had that going on it. You know, maybe 260 00:10:58,440 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 6: that's swirling yeah here too. 261 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 5: But you know, in all walks of life, you come 262 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,840 Speaker 5: into a situation bright eyed bushytawln. I got a lot 263 00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:09,800 Speaker 5: of people at work in education. I'm gonna be you. 264 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 6: Know, a creator of young minds. 265 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 5: I'm gonna do this, and then ten years later it's like, boy, 266 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 5: I'm in for ten, so I got to stay for 267 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:20,880 Speaker 5: the extra you know, fifteen or whatever it is, until 268 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: I'm fully vested an age and whatever else to you know, 269 00:11:25,640 --> 00:11:28,760 Speaker 5: you come into those continuums, whatever it is you do 270 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 5: for your job. We talked about this a lot last night. 271 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 5: You can find the podcast about the Scottie Scheffler stuff, 272 00:11:34,520 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 5: et cetera. For Dame Lillard, you might have had that 273 00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:39,600 Speaker 5: guy that burned with desire back when he was drafted 274 00:11:39,640 --> 00:11:42,280 Speaker 5: in twenty twelve. You have a couple of big runs CJ. 275 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 6: McCollum. 276 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 5: They've had a pretty good squad, and then things change. 277 00:11:46,720 --> 00:11:48,559 Speaker 5: You have a major injury where you're not gonna be 278 00:11:48,600 --> 00:11:51,440 Speaker 5: able to play for a year puts things in perspective 279 00:11:51,559 --> 00:11:54,520 Speaker 5: that you know you're on the back nine, as it 280 00:11:54,559 --> 00:11:58,160 Speaker 5: will to continue the golf analogy, and you've only got 281 00:11:58,160 --> 00:11:59,880 Speaker 5: a couple of years left. You're in the Western com 282 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:03,000 Speaker 5: but you're not expecting to win anything. The fourteen million 283 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 5: dollars seemed like if you really wanted to go home, 284 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 5: you might have taken a little less and given them 285 00:12:07,880 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 5: some more flexibility, you know, since yres still getting one 286 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 5: hundred million from Milwaukee. But you ended up you get 287 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: your closure. And it might have been loving it and 288 00:12:18,040 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 5: wanting to fight for for wins for a long long time, 289 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 5: but at some point you have that that moment where 290 00:12:24,840 --> 00:12:27,760 Speaker 5: things change and you recognize, hey, I still love the job, 291 00:12:27,840 --> 00:12:31,040 Speaker 5: I still love the paycheck, I still love the locker room, 292 00:12:31,240 --> 00:12:34,280 Speaker 5: whatever else, but winning maybe pushes away. We've talked with 293 00:12:34,360 --> 00:12:37,280 Speaker 5: guys a long time, right, A lot of football players. Hey, 294 00:12:37,320 --> 00:12:39,200 Speaker 5: I happened to be six seven, what are you gonna do? 295 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 5: And that's that's how I got basketball players. I was 296 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:44,760 Speaker 5: good and I kept going. I mean, you know, you 297 00:12:44,800 --> 00:12:47,120 Speaker 5: make fun of my guys. You know, Evan Ashmeyer and 298 00:12:47,120 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 5: other eyes from North Northwestern as they played through a 299 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: couple of those guys went and played made pretty good 300 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 5: money in Europe. Did they make NBA money, No, but 301 00:12:55,160 --> 00:12:56,760 Speaker 5: they were taken care of pretty well. 302 00:12:57,080 --> 00:13:00,760 Speaker 1: Were they really good players, yeah, college they were good. 303 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,360 Speaker 5: Not great, but there's a market for it. And you 304 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: play as long as you can. Right, rip the jersey 305 00:13:06,040 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 5: off my back. And for Dame Lillard, he gets to 306 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 5: go home, you know, I mean, look your girl Jennifer 307 00:13:10,760 --> 00:13:13,040 Speaker 5: Nettles sang about that with bon Jovi in his hair. 308 00:13:13,440 --> 00:13:15,640 Speaker 1: Yeah he's well, yeah, of course, one of the best 309 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:17,480 Speaker 1: duets ever who says you can't go home. 310 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 5: See now I got you. You're gonna be off track 311 00:13:19,240 --> 00:13:21,080 Speaker 5: all night because I brought up Jennifer Nettle. 312 00:13:20,880 --> 00:13:23,920 Speaker 2: Oh, I'll be singing sugar Land on. I'll be singing 313 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:24,400 Speaker 2: sugar Land. 314 00:13:24,440 --> 00:13:26,120 Speaker 5: Well, I'm gonna sing you some of the duets from 315 00:13:26,120 --> 00:13:27,720 Speaker 5: the Righteous Gemstones to take that. 316 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: But look, not every NBA stars Kobe lebron Steph kd Brunson, 317 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,040 Speaker 1: And that's okay, right, it's okay that because it's not 318 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:39,160 Speaker 1: like I've seen him come out and he doesn't look 319 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:41,240 Speaker 1: like he wants to win, right, Like I could say 320 00:13:41,240 --> 00:13:44,320 Speaker 1: that for someone like lamar Odom, who you know, his 321 00:13:44,400 --> 00:13:44,959 Speaker 1: goal was to. 322 00:13:44,920 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 2: Get to the NBA. 323 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:47,280 Speaker 1: And look, he was a guy who was in every 324 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: other game guy and lots of games he you know, 325 00:13:49,480 --> 00:13:51,599 Speaker 1: he didn't try to get into the game like I 326 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 1: felt like he was just there to play. 327 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 2: Damian Lillard plays hard. 328 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,079 Speaker 1: It's just he didn't burn to win like the fans 329 00:13:58,120 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: wanted him to, like we wanted Lillard to win, Like 330 00:14:00,520 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: I feel like we wanted Lillard to win more than 331 00:14:03,440 --> 00:14:05,920 Speaker 1: he wanted. That didn't burn for It's like, go somewhere, 332 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:08,360 Speaker 1: go win a title, man, it'll be awesome. And Lillard 333 00:14:08,400 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I'm gonna play hard and try my best. 334 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: But if I don't, it's okay. I'm happy. I'm happy 335 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: with what's going on. And and and you know, we 336 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: we we mix we get that mixed up sometimes because hey, 337 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,120 Speaker 1: we always think, well, guys want to win as much 338 00:14:22,120 --> 00:14:23,080 Speaker 1: as we want them to win. 339 00:14:23,080 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 2: And look, certain sports, look football, everybody. 340 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:27,800 Speaker 1: Wants to win, right you the stuff they put their 341 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:30,480 Speaker 1: bodies through, they want to win every single time they 342 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:32,760 Speaker 1: set foot on the field. Right, there's there's not that 343 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,960 Speaker 1: out there, but there's others because of what you put 344 00:14:34,960 --> 00:14:37,760 Speaker 1: your body through. But other sports there are stars and 345 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: that's okay. And and if your efforts never in question, 346 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:43,520 Speaker 1: if you're you're you know, you don't put everything on 347 00:14:43,560 --> 00:14:46,840 Speaker 1: the floor, uh everything lead everything out there, Okay, then 348 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: I can look at you and go all right, I 349 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:50,680 Speaker 1: don't know that you you really deserve this money, deserve 350 00:14:50,720 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: this credit. But you see Lillard play, you know how 351 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: you know how much he tries to when every time 352 00:14:54,680 --> 00:14:57,200 Speaker 1: he gets on the floor, it's just, hey, I'm not 353 00:14:57,240 --> 00:14:59,840 Speaker 1: gonna sit here and try to recruit guys to come, 354 00:14:59,880 --> 00:15:02,320 Speaker 1: and I'm not going to try to worry about circumventing 355 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 1: the salary cap to sign here and go here and 356 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: play for a title. 357 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:07,080 Speaker 2: Like he's not made to win. 358 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,240 Speaker 1: He's not made and judged by how many finals he 359 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: gets to like Lebron does. 360 00:15:11,880 --> 00:15:14,040 Speaker 2: And you know, and that's okay, it's okay. 361 00:15:14,080 --> 00:15:17,080 Speaker 1: For it's just weird for us to see this because 362 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: we we want to think that, hey, all the stars 363 00:15:19,680 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: we watch they want to win just as much as 364 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:21,960 Speaker 1: we do. 365 00:15:22,080 --> 00:15:23,200 Speaker 2: And that's just not the case. 366 00:15:23,320 --> 00:15:26,600 Speaker 5: But as you let it led, the analysis was the 367 00:15:26,600 --> 00:15:29,800 Speaker 5: the idea of he was allegedly gonna take a bunch 368 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:32,880 Speaker 5: of time, take some time to heal. See I get 369 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 5: all ties together, uh, and and then make a decision. 370 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:40,320 Speaker 5: Other teams potentially interested. But that's a year like he's 371 00:15:40,320 --> 00:15:43,200 Speaker 5: not in the plans now, right, He's okay, you can 372 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 5: come and use the facilities, We'll get you a key card, 373 00:15:45,840 --> 00:15:47,720 Speaker 5: and you can go hang out with the trainers. So 374 00:15:47,760 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 5: we'll have to put you in their schedule. Beyond that, 375 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:52,400 Speaker 5: you're not banking on them for this year at all. 376 00:15:52,480 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 5: So if you're your roster building with the idea that 377 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,160 Speaker 5: you're trying to win, well, he's not a fit. Nor 378 00:15:59,160 --> 00:16:01,080 Speaker 5: are you gonna commit that kind of money to it 379 00:16:01,560 --> 00:16:03,200 Speaker 5: for a guy that's not gonna play. Where does that 380 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:06,280 Speaker 5: make sense? Portland feel good story. 381 00:16:06,760 --> 00:16:09,920 Speaker 1: Maybe some folks still have the Damian Lillard cards that 382 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: they didn't burn in the barbecue pit this offseason, and 383 00:16:14,680 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: you just get to dust that out because your guy 384 00:16:16,840 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 1: came home, exit out about a Fresca exit swollen dome. 385 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon, live from the Fox Sports Radio studios. 386 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: Just a little bit of a different way to look 387 00:16:26,360 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 1: at Damian Lillard after this big, I mean this big 388 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 1: sledgehammer of a headline today, deciding to go home already, 389 00:16:31,680 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: go back to Portland phone. 390 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,320 Speaker 2: Number eight seven seven to ninety nine out Fox. 391 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 1: We got more NBA on the way, but straight ahead, 392 00:16:38,640 --> 00:16:43,560 Speaker 1: somebody got absolutely paid in the NFL today, and I'll 393 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:46,240 Speaker 1: tell you why this team really has no idea what 394 00:16:46,280 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: they're doing. 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They're into the semifiers. 425 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: Of the European Championship. 426 00:18:29,200 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 2: Glory delight for them. They had to come from two 427 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 2: ghost down. They did it a holiday. 428 00:18:37,840 --> 00:18:39,880 Speaker 3: But hardway for Sweden. 429 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 2: But that I know it's growing strong. 430 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: I know you're listening to the call, but you were 431 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:47,920 Speaker 1: just slinging along the Sweet Caroline in the background. 432 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,240 Speaker 2: That's how it goes. That's how you know. 433 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: He showed up here last week, Neil Diamond musical going. 434 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:56,760 Speaker 6: He showed up and then they sang along Sweet Caroline. 435 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 2: Wow, who knew? Like you know? Forty years after Carol. 436 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, it's this little diddy that I wrote back in 437 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,840 Speaker 1: the mid seventies. All of a sudden, they play it 438 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:07,959 Speaker 1: in Red Sox games, It's on TVs and movies. Teams 439 00:19:07,960 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 1: have co opted it. I never have to work again. 440 00:19:10,400 --> 00:19:12,360 Speaker 1: I just get the royalty from sweet Caroline. 441 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,399 Speaker 6: It's brilliant. Keeps on rolling in the machine, rolls on. 442 00:19:16,560 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 1: But this game Sweden England was an amazing afternoon watch 443 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: to nil Sweden. League evaporates. And then you have Jennifer Falk. 444 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:29,760 Speaker 5: These Swedish goalie saves four penalty get saves four? Not hey, 445 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:32,800 Speaker 5: they missed it over the crossbark like Sweden did. As 446 00:19:32,840 --> 00:19:35,760 Speaker 5: you heard there a couple of times, including Fulk herself 447 00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:39,680 Speaker 5: with a chance to win the game, says four. 448 00:19:40,040 --> 00:19:42,680 Speaker 1: Here's a big deal about this is four players from 449 00:19:42,720 --> 00:19:46,640 Speaker 1: each team missed. Yeah, well you've never seen that. Usually 450 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: if there's two misses, that's a lot in the pendal. 451 00:19:49,080 --> 00:19:50,960 Speaker 1: I thought that's a horrible penalty for a team. 452 00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,680 Speaker 2: The first four. 453 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:56,360 Speaker 1: Players on each team missed. It's like, what is happening here? 454 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: We had four misses? Seriously four? And then loose Bronze 455 00:20:00,560 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: is the one who scores for England and you know 456 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,639 Speaker 1: how Berman would say this, how Burn would call this. 457 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 1: I've been thinking about this all day. And DJ Lucy 458 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:11,439 Speaker 1: Bronze with the game winner, moving England onto the semi 459 00:20:11,440 --> 00:20:14,280 Speaker 1: finals where they hope to not finish third. 460 00:20:15,000 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 2: DJ I had to it writes itself, doesn't it writes. 461 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,000 Speaker 1: It's well done, It writes itself. Bronze helping them to 462 00:20:23,119 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: not finish third. 463 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:25,920 Speaker 6: Now it's really really good. 464 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 5: Uh fight uh in this match all the way through 465 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:31,200 Speaker 5: and then the penalty gigs were insane. 466 00:20:31,080 --> 00:20:33,240 Speaker 1: Man, I mean, you go zero for eight the first 467 00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,200 Speaker 1: think about that in Vegas. I'm gonna bet miss penalty 468 00:20:36,240 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 1: and I'm rolling over and I'm doubling it every single 469 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: one double and. 470 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,920 Speaker 2: Miss here, miss here, miss here. 471 00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:45,199 Speaker 1: Miss I'll own the win at the end of this 472 00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:46,879 Speaker 1: penalty thing. I gotta know when to stop, though, I 473 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 1: got it what it'stopped. 474 00:20:47,520 --> 00:20:51,199 Speaker 5: But the sweetish goally saved for that's one thing to 475 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 5: hit your post, sail it whatever, like for saves like yeah, 476 00:20:55,640 --> 00:20:57,439 Speaker 5: you're dominating, yeah, oh. 477 00:20:57,359 --> 00:20:59,760 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's incredible, incredible, But I mean to 478 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: get I mean when I say yeah, I mean when 479 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,440 Speaker 1: I say four, I mean four unsuccessful penalties converted. 480 00:21:05,480 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 2: I mean, it's it's just I mean that that you 481 00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 2: never see. 482 00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,560 Speaker 1: You may never see that again, the fret you know, 483 00:21:10,600 --> 00:21:12,960 Speaker 1: out out of first four on each team. 484 00:21:13,320 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 2: I really you may never see that again. 485 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,320 Speaker 6: First time in the history of the Women's Euros that 486 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 6: a team came back from two goals down in a 487 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 6: knockout match to win. 488 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 2: Man, I'll tell you. Uh so, congratulations England is the 489 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:26,639 Speaker 2: play of the day. Uh So. 490 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:30,280 Speaker 1: Meanwhile, in the NFL today, DJ Watt and the Steelers 491 00:21:30,240 --> 00:21:32,680 Speaker 1: agreed to a three year, one hundred and twenty three 492 00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:34,600 Speaker 1: million dollar extension. 493 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 2: Right now, this is a story that we knew was 494 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 2: going to have some sort of head to head solution because. 495 00:21:42,960 --> 00:21:45,240 Speaker 1: Wadd had, you know, put a couple of cryptic things 496 00:21:45,320 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: up on social media he wanted a new contract. Like 497 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 1: this is a guy who's been one of the top 498 00:21:49,600 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: two or three defensive players in the game over the 499 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:55,040 Speaker 1: course of the past, you know, six or seven years, 500 00:21:55,280 --> 00:21:57,359 Speaker 1: coming off a really good year last year at the 501 00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 1: age of thirty, eleven and a half sacks, right, I mean, 502 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: he's still one of the pre eminent defensive players in 503 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:06,600 Speaker 1: the game and he's still playing at a high level. Right, So, okay, 504 00:22:07,080 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: and I understand that you're paying TJ. Watt because you're 505 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,760 Speaker 1: paying him for the player he is and has been, 506 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: and not the guy he's going to be. Right, we 507 00:22:17,040 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: still see the players like TJ. Watt, Miles Garrett. You know, 508 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:22,080 Speaker 1: you get to the age of thirty, thirty one, thirty two, Hey, 509 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:24,119 Speaker 1: you can still be dominant, but eventually, you know that 510 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: runs out you get into your mid thirties, into your 511 00:22:26,359 --> 00:22:29,800 Speaker 1: early thirties. So yeah, I think the Steelers know that, Okay, 512 00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,640 Speaker 1: we'll get a good year from him this year, maybe 513 00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:34,320 Speaker 1: we get one more. Maybe you know, he's been healthy 514 00:22:34,359 --> 00:22:37,840 Speaker 1: for the most part his entire career, so okay, but 515 00:22:38,160 --> 00:22:40,800 Speaker 1: this is a contract that was for what he's done 516 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,360 Speaker 1: and what he's going to do maybe this year, right, 517 00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:47,439 Speaker 1: which I get. But it's but in the end, and 518 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,840 Speaker 1: you know there's a butt coming here. But this just 519 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:53,320 Speaker 1: shows you that the Steelers, I don't know that they 520 00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,880 Speaker 1: are really in tune with what it is to succeed 521 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL in twenty twenty five. I really don't 522 00:23:01,000 --> 00:23:05,320 Speaker 1: look at this decision that they made. Okay, here's TJ. Watt, 523 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 1: we want him to retire a Steeler. That was their 524 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 1: whole big thing wanted to retire a Steeler. You know what, 525 00:23:09,720 --> 00:23:13,400 Speaker 1: first of all that era in sports, that's helen gone. Man, 526 00:23:13,520 --> 00:23:16,520 Speaker 1: you are holding onto something that is thirty years old. 527 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:18,480 Speaker 1: Oh we want him to have it. You know what happens. 528 00:23:18,640 --> 00:23:20,760 Speaker 1: You don't pay a guy that's thirty thirty one years 529 00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:23,360 Speaker 1: old one hundred and twenty million dollars where, boy, it's 530 00:23:23,359 --> 00:23:24,960 Speaker 1: really gonna suck. At a year and a half, this 531 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: contract is gonna really suck for us. You don't do that. 532 00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,879 Speaker 1: You let the guy go to another team, let somebody 533 00:23:29,920 --> 00:23:32,240 Speaker 1: else pay him, and in the end he comes back. 534 00:23:32,280 --> 00:23:34,800 Speaker 1: You retire his number. He retires a Steeler because he's 535 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 1: always been a Steeler. He plays the majority's grist. That's 536 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:39,840 Speaker 1: kind of how it goes. But the Steelers are stuck 537 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: with such an antiquated way of doing things like this 538 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:46,000 Speaker 1: is something that really matters, and I'm scratching my head, going, 539 00:23:46,560 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: how do they think this is? 540 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:49,480 Speaker 2: This is gonna go right? 541 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: You decided the Yeah, TJ. Watt terrific defensive players. Still 542 00:23:54,080 --> 00:23:56,119 Speaker 1: we've seen the best of him, though can't argue that 543 00:23:56,160 --> 00:23:57,960 Speaker 1: we've seen the best of him as he's thirty one 544 00:23:58,000 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: years old. They decided it was more important to them 545 00:24:01,600 --> 00:24:04,879 Speaker 1: to give TJ. Watt a three year contract at thirty 546 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:08,960 Speaker 1: one instead of going in for the last couple of 547 00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:11,840 Speaker 1: years and going to get a quarterback and paying him 548 00:24:11,880 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 1: to come in because it's the most important bleeping position 549 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 1: on the field. They've decided it's a hey, we want 550 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: to pay a defensive lineman all kinds of money who's 551 00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:21,680 Speaker 1: passed the age of thirty. 552 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:23,960 Speaker 2: But hey, quarterback, we want to. 553 00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:25,960 Speaker 1: Shop in the bargain bin and try to make it 554 00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: work with Russell Wilson all maybe justin fields because the 555 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 1: Bears kicked them and oh now Aaron Rodgers doesn't have 556 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: a place to go, We're gonna go no, no, forget about 557 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,640 Speaker 1: hey moving up, making a bold move in the draft 558 00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,040 Speaker 1: to go get your quarterback of the future, getting into 559 00:24:38,040 --> 00:24:40,760 Speaker 1: free agency, making a trade to go win now. Like 560 00:24:40,800 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: the Steelers, it's such an antiquated way. 561 00:24:43,119 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 2: Of doing it. 562 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: It's almost like they're the Lakers of the NFL, in 563 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 1: which the Lakers run as a mom and pop store 564 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:51,639 Speaker 1: for so long. Hey, this is how things used to be. 565 00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:54,040 Speaker 1: And look, I was sad when when the Lakers got 566 00:24:54,040 --> 00:24:55,919 Speaker 1: sold because I liked it. They that was kind of 567 00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:58,000 Speaker 1: what they were. But I also understand that's not a 568 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,119 Speaker 1: way that's feasible to you run a team in twenty 569 00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: twenty five. So yeah, when the Lakers got sold, like, okay, 570 00:25:03,880 --> 00:25:05,960 Speaker 1: first thing he said was maybe now it's gonna be better. 571 00:25:06,000 --> 00:25:07,679 Speaker 1: Maybe now they're gonna be run like a like a 572 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: professional NBA twenty twenty five franchise. 573 00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: I look at the Steelers say the same thing. 574 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: You guys know what it is to run a team, right, 575 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 1: You guys know that you can't keep going cheap at 576 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: quarterback like it's nineteen eighty five and you're gonna senter 577 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:20,120 Speaker 1: out and say. 578 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:21,840 Speaker 2: Hey, we can win with a We can win with 579 00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:22,560 Speaker 2: Neil O'Donnell. 580 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,639 Speaker 1: Okay, look I watch video and Neil o'donnald getting the 581 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,000 Speaker 1: Steelers to the super Bowl. We can No, you can't 582 00:25:28,040 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 1: do it that way. You don't win unless you have 583 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:32,080 Speaker 1: you have a great quarterback. And the Steelers are one 584 00:25:32,080 --> 00:25:34,760 Speaker 1: of those teams where the standards are a little bit higher. 585 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: It's not just about hey we're staying competitive, we're winning. 586 00:25:37,920 --> 00:25:41,120 Speaker 1: The Steelers have different standards. And I watch this antiquated 587 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:44,200 Speaker 1: way they're running things, and I just go, someone's gotta 588 00:25:44,359 --> 00:25:47,280 Speaker 1: have some kind of intervention. And tell the Steelers, hey, 589 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: you don't think it's really weird. You don't think that 590 00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 1: that's the It's not the right thing to do to say, 591 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 1: here's a pass rusher over the age of thirty, here's 592 00:25:54,680 --> 00:25:57,640 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty million dollars, and we're gonna sign 593 00:25:57,760 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks for absolutely next to nothing. 594 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,119 Speaker 2: What world does that make sense? 595 00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:06,040 Speaker 5: One hundred and eight million of it guaranteed three year 596 00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 5: extension back to back years. He did participate in all 597 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:12,840 Speaker 5: seventeen games, nineteen and a half sacks two years ago, 598 00:26:13,040 --> 00:26:16,439 Speaker 5: eleven and a half this past year. You've got a 599 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:19,280 Speaker 5: roster that Omar Khan he got his three year extension 600 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 5: that was announced a couple of weeks ago. So you've 601 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:27,000 Speaker 5: got your bases in your quarterback position certainly is not 602 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 5: pushed aside at all, right, because I've got my whole 603 00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,959 Speaker 5: tap system, the Harmon tap system. I need a thrower, 604 00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,560 Speaker 5: I need an attacker, and I need a protector. You 605 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:38,199 Speaker 5: can give me whatever else you need out of that. 606 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:40,360 Speaker 5: But if I got those three things, I'm feeling pretty good. 607 00:26:40,600 --> 00:26:42,320 Speaker 5: It's like my Big Three. See what I did. I 608 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 5: brought it back after the NBA killed it. But it's 609 00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,479 Speaker 5: the moving forward. 610 00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,720 Speaker 1: You decided you saw enough on tape with his resume, 611 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: his history, the. 612 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 5: First thing being, hey, we want him to retire here. 613 00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:59,080 Speaker 5: Probably not the best, but that's who they are, right. 614 00:26:58,960 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 6: And it's the family. 615 00:27:00,240 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 5: So they're gonna they're gonna acknowledge that at every turn, 616 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,879 Speaker 5: and they did with all of the veterans in the past, 617 00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:09,520 Speaker 5: and even in changes in the front office. The Rooney 618 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 5: family remains at the top, so only so much change. 619 00:27:14,080 --> 00:27:16,480 Speaker 5: We do this with all the owners and every sport 620 00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:19,119 Speaker 5: Jason that are that are still their long term that 621 00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:22,600 Speaker 5: it's it's hard to what the proverbial teach an old 622 00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:23,880 Speaker 5: dog new tricks kind of thing. 623 00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:24,120 Speaker 6: Right. 624 00:27:24,119 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 5: We do it with Jerry Jones. We do it in 625 00:27:26,200 --> 00:27:31,280 Speaker 5: baseball with my beloved White Sox, Bulls and all those franchises. 626 00:27:31,480 --> 00:27:34,199 Speaker 5: Maybe they're finally turning the page with the Bears. But 627 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:37,920 Speaker 5: all of that to say, they decided this is where 628 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:40,280 Speaker 5: they're gonna commit money, which means they're going to be 629 00:27:40,520 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 5: just good enough to be on the periphery of the playoffs, 630 00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 5: maybe get in and then eventually lose fairly quickly thereafter. 631 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,119 Speaker 5: You and I don't know what it's like to have 632 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,720 Speaker 5: a franchise that wins fairly consistently. 633 00:27:52,880 --> 00:27:54,760 Speaker 6: We just don't Oh no, no, no, right. 634 00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:56,960 Speaker 1: The FoST thing I have is the Mets because we 635 00:27:56,960 --> 00:27:59,480 Speaker 1: were in the NLCS last year and we're in a 636 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 1: wildcard spot this year. 637 00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:02,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, you're in a World series a decade ago. 638 00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not a big sample size man's. 639 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:11,120 Speaker 5: Year anniversary of a world series that ESPN refuses to acknowledge. 640 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:15,120 Speaker 1: Okay, So all of that to say, I don't know 641 00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,320 Speaker 1: how I would like as a Steeler fan. You're excited. 642 00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 6: TJ. Watt stays right. 643 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,399 Speaker 1: It doesn't ultimately get to the tradeing for pennies on 644 00:28:22,480 --> 00:28:25,159 Speaker 1: the dollar and all of those things, But it's just 645 00:28:25,240 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: that curiosity of. 646 00:28:26,520 --> 00:28:28,040 Speaker 6: How do you really feel about it? 647 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:32,399 Speaker 1: Are you okay with being just good enough versus going 648 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:34,800 Speaker 1: towards greatness? It goes back to what we were talking 649 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:38,120 Speaker 1: about with Damian Lillard, the rich tapestry we weave. Is 650 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,520 Speaker 1: it good enough to just, hey, the check keeps going, 651 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:43,960 Speaker 1: I got a thing to go show my wares, I 652 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 1: get to punch in, I punch. 653 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:47,960 Speaker 5: Out, and we go back to our lives. Or do 654 00:28:48,040 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 5: you actually want something a little more? That's the question. 655 00:28:51,360 --> 00:28:54,880 Speaker 5: And not having won twenty straight years, I have no idea. 656 00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 5: How the hell that's supposed to feel. I haven't done 657 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,920 Speaker 5: that since a couple of years with the Blackhawks and 658 00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,840 Speaker 5: and then the Bulls, all the way back to ninety 659 00:29:01,880 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 5: seven to ninety eight, ten years before Coldplay was like wow. 660 00:29:07,800 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 1: And now cold Play catching straight. Yeah, Mike Harmon, Coldplay 661 00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: got me. I mean, look, in no world does what 662 00:29:14,280 --> 00:29:17,600 Speaker 1: the Steelers do make sense. I mean, just think about 663 00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 1: this for a second. What do we need need a quarterbacks? 664 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,640 Speaker 1: What are we gonna do? We're gonna try to get 665 00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:24,120 Speaker 1: one as cheap as possible. I mean really, I mean 666 00:29:24,320 --> 00:29:26,840 Speaker 1: we were. They were lucky enough to have to be 667 00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:30,360 Speaker 1: sold on Roethlisberger for nearly two decades, and they won 668 00:29:30,440 --> 00:29:32,960 Speaker 1: with him, and they won the Super Bowls. Yeah, they 669 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: won two. What a great time. And now they's like, yeah, no, 670 00:29:35,440 --> 00:29:37,880 Speaker 1: we don't want that anymore. Like whether it's the team 671 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 1: feels we can win with the quarterback being a necessary evil, 672 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: you can't. It's the NFL in twenty twenty five, or 673 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,480 Speaker 1: however they arrive at these decisions. 674 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,280 Speaker 2: None of none of this makes sense. Not not even the. 675 00:29:51,320 --> 00:29:54,920 Speaker 1: Jets on their worst day would say, hey, we don't 676 00:29:54,920 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: need a quarterback. They just always go for the wrong ones. 677 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,360 Speaker 1: The Jets know they need a quarterback. They just can't 678 00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: pick it right no matter what, which makes it. You know, 679 00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,120 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter the little nervous now this year, aren't you. 680 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,040 Speaker 1: They gonna go back and get Tom Brady in his 681 00:30:06,160 --> 00:30:08,240 Speaker 1: prime and they would probably screw it up. Ago Brady 682 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: just can't start stop throwing interceptions. All he does, throw 683 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: it deep, throw it deep like that. At least the 684 00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:15,000 Speaker 1: Jets know, hey, we gotta go. Even the Lions that 685 00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:16,640 Speaker 1: couldn't get things done for a lot, what we gotta 686 00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 1: go get a quarterback. 687 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,280 Speaker 2: Oh, they go get a quarterback. Okay, it works out. 688 00:30:19,560 --> 00:30:21,960 Speaker 1: And the Steelers, hey, we're just gonna try to do 689 00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,560 Speaker 1: this with duct tape and gum like they're mcguiver and 690 00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: they're trying to jerry rig something together to say, ah, 691 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: you know, I can I can blow up this big 692 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:32,040 Speaker 1: bomb that's coming in by just using a twig and 693 00:30:32,040 --> 00:30:35,320 Speaker 1: and a sling shot and and and a doctor pepper. 694 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 1: How do we do it? Just trust me, Just trust me, 695 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:38,680 Speaker 1: I'll do it. Like That's how the Steelers are trying 696 00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: to do it. I mean, in no world does this 697 00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:44,240 Speaker 1: make sense how they're doing things cheap at quarterback. But yeah, 698 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 1: we want to give a team legend three years and 699 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:47,840 Speaker 1: one hundred and twenty three million dollars. 700 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, to be fair, the Lions always had the quarterback, 701 00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 5: the running back, and wide receiver. 702 00:30:52,720 --> 00:30:54,200 Speaker 6: They didn't have a whole hell of a lot else. 703 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,960 Speaker 5: There were a couple of good players that mix there 704 00:30:55,960 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 5: in I don't want to denigrate careers if some of 705 00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 5: those linemen are a few of those defence. 706 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 6: They're out there and they know who they are. 707 00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 5: But you know, Matthew Stafford was always everybody's favorite, your 708 00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,080 Speaker 5: favorite quarterback's favorite quarterback, and then he still had to 709 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:11,400 Speaker 5: go to Los Angeles. 710 00:31:10,960 --> 00:31:11,440 Speaker 2: To win. 711 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: Exit out bout a Fresca Exit Swollen down The Jason 712 00:31:16,000 --> 00:31:18,160 Speaker 1: Smith Show with Mike Carbon live from the Fox Sports 713 00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:20,840 Speaker 1: Radio studios, Time out to find out what's trending in 714 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,760 Speaker 1: the wide world of sports. But guy who's been called 715 00:31:22,760 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: the Matthew Stafford of Fox Sports Radio, he spent so 716 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: much time in Detroit before he realized, I gotta get 717 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: to Los Angeles. 718 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,160 Speaker 2: It's Martin Weiss. 719 00:31:30,880 --> 00:31:35,680 Speaker 6: And then he immediately started winning championship. About that. 720 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,240 Speaker 9: Nine time NBA All Star Damian Lillard finalizing a three year, 721 00:31:41,320 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 9: forty two million dollars contract return a contract to return 722 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:48,520 Speaker 9: to the Portland Trail Blazers after a brief dalliance in Milwaukee. 723 00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,760 Speaker 9: The dealers expected to include a player option for twenty 724 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 9: twenty seven and a no trade clause. More than forty 725 00:31:54,920 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 9: w NBA players gathered Thursday for in person meeting with 726 00:31:59,120 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 9: the Women's Nation the WNBPA. It was the biggest in 727 00:32:03,320 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 9: person player turnout union history. During CBA talks, they met 728 00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 9: for a couple hours and ended with no resolution. Caitlin 729 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,800 Speaker 9: Clark will missed a three point contest on All Star 730 00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,120 Speaker 9: Game in Indianapolis this weekend after sustaining a groin injury 731 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 9: versus Sun on Tuesday. Her statement said that she'll be 732 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 9: present for all the action and I just saw social 733 00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 9: media video of her walking up to I forget where 734 00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:27,600 Speaker 9: Courtney Williams plays now, but Courtney Williams is head. I 735 00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 9: spent three hours watching your live stream as the WNBA 736 00:32:31,160 --> 00:32:33,760 Speaker 9: is doing their Opening Nights type of thing for their 737 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,000 Speaker 9: All Star So she's locked in. 738 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 6: She's locked in. 739 00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:38,240 Speaker 2: Will not be participating. 740 00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 9: Speaking of locked in, TJ Watt three years, one hundred 741 00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,400 Speaker 9: and twenty three million dollar extension that makes him the 742 00:32:43,480 --> 00:32:46,680 Speaker 9: highest paid none quarterback in NFL history, not for the 743 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:48,840 Speaker 9: first time, but for the second time in his career 744 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 9: one hundred and eight fully guaranteed at signing forty one 745 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 9: million per year average. First baseman Rowdy tu Les took 746 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 9: part in the work out with the Texas Rangers Thursday, 747 00:32:57,240 --> 00:32:59,960 Speaker 9: with the expectation he'll join the team after the All 748 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,880 Speaker 9: Star break ends tomorrow. Coach quarterback Anthony Richardson believed to 749 00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,360 Speaker 9: have recovered from his recent right shoulder setback as a 750 00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,320 Speaker 9: team prepares to report for training camp next week. And 751 00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:13,640 Speaker 9: the only first round pick who's not signed rookie Cincinnati 752 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,640 Speaker 9: Bengal or might be. I guess Cincinnati Bigo's on his 753 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,200 Speaker 9: draft rights, then they're not paying him yet. Shamar Stewart 754 00:33:19,520 --> 00:33:21,520 Speaker 9: Texas A and M. Mike Elko, this is where we're 755 00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 9: at with the hit. The tech coach of Texas A 756 00:33:23,240 --> 00:33:26,440 Speaker 9: and M squashed any speculation that Shamar Stewart may be 757 00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 9: potentially seeking a return to college amid the contract dispute. 758 00:33:31,240 --> 00:33:34,840 Speaker 9: So things went well in Cincinnati, got transison. 759 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:35,680 Speaker 6: And they still got to pay that guy. 760 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:37,480 Speaker 2: Joe, You know what are we doing? 761 00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:40,600 Speaker 5: He's still heading flowers to TJ. Watt here's the thing, 762 00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:40,800 Speaker 5: you know. 763 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like, I had a really rough first year 764 00:33:43,720 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 1: out of college, like out of out of Syria, like 765 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,240 Speaker 1: your early twenties is a tough age. 766 00:33:48,320 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 2: But I had a really rough first year. 767 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:52,080 Speaker 1: I never thought about, Hey, I could go back to 768 00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 1: colle I could if they let me, I would go back. 769 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,719 Speaker 1: I'd be like, No, I'm too old now I'm twenty two, 770 00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,520 Speaker 1: I can't go back there. You got go back to 771 00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:01,160 Speaker 1: college till my friends are going. No, I can't do that. 772 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 5: You could always make new friends, nada. You can run 773 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,520 Speaker 5: the collegeine as you walked around campus. 774 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:10,160 Speaker 1: No, I'd feel like the old guy, like this guy graduated, okay, 775 00:34:10,200 --> 00:34:12,680 Speaker 1: keep by beer for us'd be friends of them. I'd 776 00:34:12,680 --> 00:34:14,400 Speaker 1: feel like I'm just like I'm hanging out with a 777 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:17,359 Speaker 1: like i'd be babysitting kids. Meanwhile, I'm the same age 778 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,000 Speaker 1: as a lot of the I couldn't go back to 779 00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 1: college and they said, yeah, go do it, Like no, 780 00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: I did you do it? And you're done and it's hard. 781 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:23,399 Speaker 1: It's hard to go back. 782 00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:24,440 Speaker 6: You'd go back and do it now? 783 00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:28,520 Speaker 1: Though, Uh, you know, I always thought, honestly, if I 784 00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:30,200 Speaker 1: could come up with something where you know, they do 785 00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, fantasy camp for baseball and fantasy camp for 786 00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: different sports, Like you go and you learn from legends 787 00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:37,879 Speaker 1: and you play baseball and everything. Like I said, could 788 00:34:37,920 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 1: you do college fantasy camp where you would you go 789 00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:43,040 Speaker 1: back to college for a week. You'd live in a 790 00:34:43,080 --> 00:34:46,160 Speaker 1: dorm and you know, with roommates everything, and you would 791 00:34:46,200 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: go to classes. You go do the classes that you 792 00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: want to go to, Like you talk about history or English. 793 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: You know'd be like book club or whatever it was, 794 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:55,799 Speaker 1: or or history, and those are the classes you go 795 00:34:55,840 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: to and you eat on campus and you go out 796 00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,359 Speaker 1: to happy hour all the time. 797 00:34:59,400 --> 00:35:01,160 Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, would that be something people would 798 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 2: go for? I don't know. I always thought would that 799 00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:03,520 Speaker 2: be something people say? 800 00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:06,080 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go relive, I got my my my back 801 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:08,040 Speaker 1: to school week here, man would go back to college, 802 00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,040 Speaker 1: going back to Tennessee for a week. I got Tennessee 803 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,719 Speaker 1: legends going back, gonna stay in the same dor, I'm 804 00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna stay like I wonder if that's something people would do. 805 00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 6: Yeah, people would pay for that, there's no think about y'all. 806 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,320 Speaker 2: Absolutely patent pending. 807 00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 5: I really thought you were gonna say, can you go 808 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,000 Speaker 5: and and teach people how to be on the radio whatever. 809 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,000 Speaker 6: Like I think there's some folks that are trying that. 810 00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: No, no, no, no, I just mean to go back 811 00:35:28,120 --> 00:35:30,160 Speaker 1: and live a week like it was a college Yeah, yeah, no, 812 00:35:30,239 --> 00:35:32,919 Speaker 1: And there's a market for that. You could blow off 813 00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,279 Speaker 1: whatever assignments you wanted to because at the end, you 814 00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 1: don't have to worry about it. You're paying for it. Like, hey, 815 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 1: this assignment's do Friday, and you could choose to do 816 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 1: it or not do it. See, and that's the best part. 817 00:35:41,560 --> 00:35:45,720 Speaker 1: You just tell everybody you're a current college, pro football 818 00:35:45,800 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 1: or basketball player. 819 00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 2: I think there's something to that. Hang on, you know, 820 00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:49,880 Speaker 2: we got to get back, you know, let's put a 821 00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 2: pin in this. 822 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,960 Speaker 6: To write back to that. Yeah. 823 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:55,400 Speaker 1: Jason Smith Mike Harmon Live from the Fox Sports Radio Studios. 824 00:35:55,440 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: Coming up next to big time wide receivers in the 825 00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 1: news today, two very different stories. That's next. Jason and 826 00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:05,920 Speaker 1: Mike Fox with us now on the hot Line. You 827 00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:09,120 Speaker 1: can follow him at the Steinline on Twitter. It is 828 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:11,360 Speaker 1: Mark Stein, Mark. What's happening man? Happy summer? 829 00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 2: Nope? Is Mark there? Hey? Mark you there? 830 00:36:14,440 --> 00:36:18,160 Speaker 4: I'm here. Hey, I'm here, I'm here. I heard you. 831 00:36:18,760 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 2: Okay, we got we got some you know. 832 00:36:20,760 --> 00:36:23,239 Speaker 1: Look, it's it. It's been a crazy show tonight, but 833 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,319 Speaker 1: we're all good. How's your summer so far? 834 00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:27,520 Speaker 4: You guys lost my number? 835 00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 2: Well, Harmon was on vacation. I got vacation. We you know, 836 00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:34,520 Speaker 2: we were taking some time. 837 00:36:34,880 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: Hey, you know it's it's it's the jet setting lifestyle 838 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,920 Speaker 1: here we have on radio vacation. 839 00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 4: I mean, there's a little thing called NBA Free agency. 840 00:36:44,080 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 4: If you guys not heard of that, What do you 841 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:46,120 Speaker 4: mean vacation? 842 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,240 Speaker 1: I know, but I can't keep waiting for the trades market. 843 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,200 Speaker 1: Some At some point wife is gonna say, hey, we 844 00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,160 Speaker 1: got it. We gotta go at some point. I'm like, okay, 845 00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,120 Speaker 1: but the trades are coming any day, any day now. 846 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, you got July twenty fifth to mid August. What 847 00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,680 Speaker 4: are you missing? Exhibition football and NFL training camp? 848 00:37:04,080 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: So are we still going to get that? Are we 849 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:08,920 Speaker 1: still going to get any big trades coming soon? Or 850 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 1: is that kind of starting to go away? 851 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 4: Well, look, I think you have to in all seriousness. 852 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:17,480 Speaker 4: I mean, there were five six pretty significant trades before 853 00:37:17,600 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 4: the draft, and I think you guys have heard this 854 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:26,080 Speaker 4: speech from me before that, Like if it didn't happen yesterday, 855 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:29,000 Speaker 4: we all say this off season was a dudge. I 856 00:37:29,000 --> 00:37:32,000 Speaker 4: mean no, this off season was not a dud. And 857 00:37:32,040 --> 00:37:39,319 Speaker 4: even today like Damian Lillard, Damian Lillard, you know, and 858 00:37:39,560 --> 00:37:42,040 Speaker 4: basically announcing that he is going back to the Portland 859 00:37:42,080 --> 00:37:47,280 Speaker 4: Trailblazers is a pretty significant mid July curve ball slash surprise. 860 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:51,920 Speaker 4: So even free agency, you know, nobody has cap space, 861 00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:55,560 Speaker 4: so free agents aren't moving from team to team. That's 862 00:37:55,600 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 4: just not the way it happens anymore, because so many 863 00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:02,719 Speaker 4: free agents sign extensions. But between trades, the way the 864 00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 4: whole Miles Turner thing unfolded, and now Damian Lillard waved 865 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:14,480 Speaker 4: and stretched but going back to the Blazers like I would, 866 00:38:14,600 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 4: I would stauntily dispute the notion of a dud summer. 867 00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:23,000 Speaker 4: But can I promise you another blockbuster trade on the 868 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:28,440 Speaker 4: level of Kevin Durant to Houston Porzingis and Holiday getting 869 00:38:28,440 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 4: moved by the Celtics. I mean, I cannot promise you, 870 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:32,840 Speaker 4: but I also wouldn't be shocked. 871 00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,560 Speaker 2: Well, well, what do you make of the Lillard thing 872 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:35,840 Speaker 2: like that? 873 00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:37,839 Speaker 1: We all thought, Okay, he's going to take a long time, 874 00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:40,160 Speaker 1: He's going to rehab in Portland before he chooses next 875 00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:42,279 Speaker 1: team and not Nope, he's back there three years, forty 876 00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:42,720 Speaker 1: two million. 877 00:38:44,239 --> 00:38:46,399 Speaker 4: I think you guys know me pretty well by now. 878 00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,160 Speaker 4: I think you know I am an incurable romantic. 879 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 2: So I love it. 880 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: I love the story. Look, he asked out, he asked 881 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,799 Speaker 4: for a trade. That was certainly part of it. Now, 882 00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:02,040 Speaker 4: I think the Blazers helped nudge him to that place. 883 00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,759 Speaker 4: It was not one hundred percent on him, but you 884 00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:08,719 Speaker 4: know it was. He left on his own volition, essentially 885 00:39:09,280 --> 00:39:14,160 Speaker 4: asking for a trade. They traded into Milwaukee. It didn't work. 886 00:39:15,320 --> 00:39:18,880 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, what the Bucks did was incredibly bold. 887 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,640 Speaker 4: I mean, the Bucks have always been bold in the 888 00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 4: yannasen to the Cumpo era, but no, what they gave 889 00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,560 Speaker 4: up to trade for Drew Holliday was massive, and that 890 00:39:28,719 --> 00:39:34,080 Speaker 4: led to a championship and an instant Jana Kumbo contract extension. 891 00:39:34,880 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 4: Before that, they made the big swing trade for Lillard 892 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,759 Speaker 4: that obviously didn't work nearly as well in the playoffs, 893 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:44,800 Speaker 4: but that also led to a Janis and to the 894 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,960 Speaker 4: Kumbo contract extension, and then just the pathway they took 895 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:53,400 Speaker 4: to wave and stretch Lillard and create the cap space 896 00:39:54,080 --> 00:39:58,160 Speaker 4: to sign Miles Turner. And you know, we still don't 897 00:39:58,200 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: have a super clear indication of how Janna Santetokounpo really 898 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 4: feels about that transaction. Have the Bucks done enough to 899 00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:13,760 Speaker 4: placate him and convince him that this team can get 900 00:40:13,800 --> 00:40:17,640 Speaker 4: back on a title winning pass. That will will have 901 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 4: to see and we'll see how that plays out. But 902 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,040 Speaker 4: Damian Lillard decided to go back to Portland. He's going 903 00:40:23,080 --> 00:40:26,040 Speaker 4: to be out for this whole season. But uh, like 904 00:40:26,080 --> 00:40:29,319 Speaker 4: I said, I you know, I don't know if they'll 905 00:40:29,320 --> 00:40:31,680 Speaker 4: ever win a championship now because the Blazers have a 906 00:40:31,840 --> 00:40:34,440 Speaker 4: lot of teams ahead of them in the West. But 907 00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 4: I like, I like guys who wanted to stay in 908 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:41,439 Speaker 4: one place, and you know, he did take a two 909 00:40:41,480 --> 00:40:46,040 Speaker 4: season d tour, but he is going to be I 910 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 4: mean he lives there in the off season. I mean 911 00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,319 Speaker 4: that is his home and he is he is back 912 00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 4: home now full time. 913 00:40:51,480 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 2: So I love it. I really do. 914 00:40:54,320 --> 00:40:58,960 Speaker 1: Mark talking about another buyout, you know, stretch kind of situation. 915 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: Clippers add Bradley Beal and finally he's got a new 916 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,040 Speaker 1: home after all of the chaos that we had with Phoenix. 917 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: How much does it move the needle for them? 918 00:41:09,760 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 4: Well, Bradley Beal on a five million dollar deal. You 919 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,279 Speaker 4: would take that in a heartbeat. I mean, there was 920 00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 4: a line out the door of teams that wanted Bradley 921 00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:21,680 Speaker 4: Beal unrestricted free agents. So you have to say, second 922 00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 4: summer in a row, the Clippers let Paul George walk 923 00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,920 Speaker 4: for nothing, and that would have never happened under the 924 00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:36,280 Speaker 4: previous CBA. But their moves last summer in this summer 925 00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:40,919 Speaker 4: since making that decision have been sensational because they are 926 00:41:41,320 --> 00:41:45,320 Speaker 4: very competitive in the now and they have financial flexibility 927 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 4: to make a big swing in the relatively near future. 928 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:53,200 Speaker 4: So I think a lot of people around the league 929 00:41:53,239 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 4: are really impressed by the way the Clippers have handled 930 00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:59,720 Speaker 4: their business. You know, they didn't want to sign Norman 931 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 4: power All too a long term deal. They turned him 932 00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:06,520 Speaker 4: into John Collins on an expiring deal. Brook Lopez to 933 00:42:06,600 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 4: join Zubach makes their front line better and again they 934 00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 4: have a lot of flexibility going forward. So the Clippers 935 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:17,000 Speaker 4: are a very interesting team. And look, they still have 936 00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:22,040 Speaker 4: a veteran minimum available. There is mutual interest between the 937 00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,240 Speaker 4: Clippers and Chris Paul. Doesn't mean it is for sure 938 00:42:25,840 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 4: going to happen. I think both sides are still weighing it. 939 00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,360 Speaker 4: But Chris Paul's made it pretty clear he wants to 940 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,400 Speaker 4: stay close to home. He wants to either play for 941 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,840 Speaker 4: the Clippers or go back to Phoenix. You know, he 942 00:42:36,880 --> 00:42:40,280 Speaker 4: had interest from Charlotte, his home state Hornets. The Bucks 943 00:42:40,400 --> 00:42:43,640 Speaker 4: would have loved to have Chris Paul. You know, he 944 00:42:44,320 --> 00:42:46,279 Speaker 4: wants to stay. If he's going to play a twenty 945 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 4: first season, he wants to be close to home. So 946 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,640 Speaker 4: the Clippers might not be done. They might still add 947 00:42:50,800 --> 00:43:00,840 Speaker 4: Chris Paul. So look, Phoenix, I mean they pretty well 948 00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,600 Speaker 4: this summer to try to get you know, they're they're 949 00:43:03,600 --> 00:43:05,800 Speaker 4: out of the they're out of the tax aprons now. 950 00:43:06,440 --> 00:43:09,880 Speaker 4: But it's just it's impossible not to think about how 951 00:43:10,080 --> 00:43:14,600 Speaker 4: much matt Ishbia, and it was matt Ishbia, the driving force, 952 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:19,000 Speaker 4: gave up to trade for Durant, and then he insisted 953 00:43:19,080 --> 00:43:23,200 Speaker 4: on springing in Deal and like what they've had to 954 00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:27,520 Speaker 4: give up to extricate themselves from the dire financial position 955 00:43:27,600 --> 00:43:31,880 Speaker 4: they were in. You know, they've also made some nice acquisitions, 956 00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 4: but I mean they are you know, they've had to 957 00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,720 Speaker 4: give up a lot of assets to to to move 958 00:43:38,840 --> 00:43:42,520 Speaker 4: away from Durant and Deal, and I do think they'll 959 00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 4: be interesting. I do think they'll probably be better than 960 00:43:44,280 --> 00:43:48,640 Speaker 4: people expect because Jalen Green has a lot to prove. 961 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:52,319 Speaker 4: Ne's to Devin Booker, Dylan Brooks, Springs, the toughness that 962 00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:55,359 Speaker 4: Ishbia has been so open about wanting. So I mean, 963 00:43:55,600 --> 00:43:59,920 Speaker 4: I think they'll be a reasonably feisty team. But again, 964 00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,160 Speaker 4: and they just they gave up so much to get 965 00:44:02,200 --> 00:44:05,680 Speaker 4: Durant and then there took their payroll to just some 966 00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:12,000 Speaker 4: really scary places by trading for Beale and just just 967 00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:16,880 Speaker 4: again like Bradley Beal with his buyout still walked away 968 00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:23,800 Speaker 4: with ninety seven millions and his free agency ninety seven 969 00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,320 Speaker 4: mili and his free agency. I'm gonna go out on 970 00:44:27,360 --> 00:44:29,480 Speaker 4: a limb and say that was a buyout record. 971 00:44:30,200 --> 00:44:30,520 Speaker 2: All right. 972 00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:33,480 Speaker 1: Lastly, Mark, Now we've seen all the stories the last 973 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 1: few days with the Lakers. They're building towards Luca Lebron 974 00:44:37,520 --> 00:44:41,880 Speaker 1: trade rumors, Lebron buyout rumors, all this craziness. If I 975 00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:44,360 Speaker 1: said to you fill in the blank between now and 976 00:44:44,440 --> 00:44:48,880 Speaker 1: the regular season, the Lakers do blank, what happens as 977 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,800 Speaker 1: far as this whole storyline between now and the regular season. 978 00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:57,760 Speaker 4: Look, I don't foresee a Lebron trade. It's just really, 979 00:44:58,719 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 4: you know, maybe something materializes. I mean, I'm in the 980 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:06,120 Speaker 4: never say never mode after what we witnessed in February 981 00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:09,360 Speaker 4: when in the middle of the night on the Saturday 982 00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,320 Speaker 4: before the trade deadline, we saw Luca Dantage to Lakerland 983 00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:17,319 Speaker 4: trade that no one on Earth envision. So there is 984 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:21,040 Speaker 4: never say never, even even Miles Turner. I mean, the 985 00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:23,960 Speaker 4: whole league was expecting Miles Turner to stay in Indiana. 986 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:27,240 Speaker 4: The fact that he's now Milwaukee was just a reminder 987 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,279 Speaker 4: again that things move and things are fluid. But to 988 00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 4: trade Lebron James, you have to, like the Lakers have 989 00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:40,279 Speaker 4: to be happy with the long term money they're taking back, 990 00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:42,720 Speaker 4: because they don't want to take back any long term money. 991 00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,320 Speaker 4: Lebron has to be happy with where he lands because 992 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,640 Speaker 4: he has the no trade clause, and the team that's 993 00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:52,960 Speaker 4: trading for him has to be wary of giving up 994 00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 4: too much for even if Lebron plays great for another 995 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,520 Speaker 4: year or two, you're not going to get more than 996 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:00,400 Speaker 4: a year or two out of him at this point 997 00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:03,839 Speaker 4: most likely. So it's just so hard to make the 998 00:46:03,960 --> 00:46:09,120 Speaker 4: trade work. To make that triangle of you know, of 999 00:46:09,280 --> 00:46:13,560 Speaker 4: parties involved, all happy to buy out makes zero sense. 1000 00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,319 Speaker 4: Why Why would the Lakers buy him out whatever the 1001 00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,600 Speaker 4: number is, to just let Lebron walk to a rival 1002 00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,560 Speaker 4: and make a rival team stronger. That doesn't make any 1003 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:26,480 Speaker 4: sense for the Lakers. The Lakers want Lebron for the 1004 00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:30,480 Speaker 4: rest of the season, unless some amazing trade materializes that 1005 00:46:30,600 --> 00:46:33,480 Speaker 4: meets all their future needs. But they're not just going 1006 00:46:33,560 --> 00:46:35,560 Speaker 4: to say, Okay, you know what, we're going to buy 1007 00:46:35,560 --> 00:46:37,799 Speaker 4: you out. Just just go sign for whoever you want 1008 00:46:37,840 --> 00:46:40,000 Speaker 4: for the minimum. I just don't see that happening. 1009 00:46:41,320 --> 00:46:43,240 Speaker 2: He's on Twitter at the Steinline. 1010 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,439 Speaker 1: That is at the Steinline, Mark, as always, thanks so much, 1011 00:46:46,520 --> 00:46:47,160 Speaker 1: appreciate it. 1012 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,839 Speaker 2: We will. We'll talk to you next week. Well I will. 1013 00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,120 Speaker 2: I'm on vacation, so Harmon will talk to you next week. 1014 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:53,040 Speaker 6: Talk to you next week. 1015 00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:55,400 Speaker 4: Mark, somebody there likes me. 1016 00:46:55,680 --> 00:47:01,160 Speaker 1: You be good, brother, got you soon, good as mark'stide 1017 00:47:01,239 --> 00:47:01,800 Speaker 1: is the best