1 00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:20,360 Speaker 1: What is up? 2 00:00:20,400 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode the Mets Up Podcast. 3 00:00:23,560 --> 00:00:25,160 Speaker 1: We haven't talked to you in a few days. 4 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:26,799 Speaker 2: I was a little bit late with the YouTube video 5 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:29,920 Speaker 2: boys in Ireland, and I just honestly completely forgot, did 6 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:31,760 Speaker 2: not remember to make the video live. You saw it 7 00:00:31,800 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: come out yesterday or two days ago, now yesterday. 8 00:00:34,000 --> 00:00:34,559 Speaker 1: Whatever it is. 9 00:00:34,880 --> 00:00:39,440 Speaker 2: We're talking rumors, Wan So too, rumors, Peter Alonzo, Christian Walker, 10 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:41,839 Speaker 2: Luis Severino, whatever it is. We got a lot to 11 00:00:41,880 --> 00:00:45,120 Speaker 2: talk to you guys about on this episode, and of 12 00:00:45,159 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 2: course we're always gonna be talking about Wants Soto as 13 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 2: much as physically possible, because he's the only thing that 14 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 2: matters right now in the entire Mets offseason. Appreciate the 15 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 2: amazed spport you guys have been showing on all the episodes, 16 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 2: on the YouTube videos, whatever it is. Make sure you 17 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:57,920 Speaker 2: follow us on our social media. We're approaching ten k 18 00:00:58,040 --> 00:00:59,760 Speaker 2: on Twitter, so if you could follow us over there, 19 00:00:59,800 --> 00:01:00,440 Speaker 2: that be great. 20 00:01:00,480 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: At Mets Stuff over on Twitter. 21 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:04,560 Speaker 2: Subscribe the Mets Stuff podcast YouTube channel if you want 22 00:01:04,560 --> 00:01:05,840 Speaker 2: to see the video version of this, and if you 23 00:01:05,880 --> 00:01:09,679 Speaker 2: are listening Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Overcast, Google drops a rating 24 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:11,399 Speaker 2: drops a review, download and subscribe. 25 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:12,720 Speaker 1: James, I haven't spoke to you in a while. 26 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:14,760 Speaker 2: We've been ripping so many episodes that we've been almost 27 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:16,680 Speaker 2: talking like every single day about this team. It feels 28 00:01:16,680 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 2: like over the last couple of weeks, but a week 29 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:20,640 Speaker 2: away from me. How are you feeling? What's going on 30 00:01:20,680 --> 00:01:20,920 Speaker 2: with you? 31 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:21,679 Speaker 1: Yeah? 32 00:01:21,720 --> 00:01:23,320 Speaker 3: The break was nice, nice to get the breath because 33 00:01:23,319 --> 00:01:25,120 Speaker 3: we were like preview off season, preview off seas and 34 00:01:25,160 --> 00:01:27,200 Speaker 3: preview off seas and preview off season. Now we're on 35 00:01:27,240 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 3: the eve of qualifying offers, being septed and rejected once 36 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:31,880 Speaker 3: so there's taking meetings. It feels like the off season 37 00:01:31,920 --> 00:01:34,319 Speaker 3: is literally actually finally about to start. I was hanging 38 00:01:34,360 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 3: out with our buddy Connor over the weekend. He was like, dude, 39 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 3: every single day seeing that little blue dot next to 40 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:40,640 Speaker 3: next to met stuff. I was so excited every single 41 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,400 Speaker 3: day of the new episode. That was great, but like, yeah, 42 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,080 Speaker 3: happy to do that. But it feels like now everything 43 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:46,959 Speaker 3: we talked about it again was us being like this 44 00:01:47,080 --> 00:01:48,760 Speaker 3: what we want? This, we think this what could We're 45 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:50,680 Speaker 3: now we're in in the dirt, We're in the mud 46 00:01:50,760 --> 00:01:52,880 Speaker 3: right now, and we're getting rumors being thrown out left 47 00:01:52,880 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 3: and right numbers years, a lot of unfounded bullshit. To 48 00:01:57,480 --> 00:01:59,920 Speaker 3: be fair, radio hosts getting in on the mix. Blogger 49 00:02:00,040 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 3: is getting in the mix like it's coming from every 50 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: director right now, as we want to do an episode 51 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 3: here where we basically parsed through as many rumors as 52 00:02:05,760 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 3: we could possibly get to and kind of evaluate each 53 00:02:07,680 --> 00:02:09,079 Speaker 3: one for what we believe is validity. 54 00:02:09,160 --> 00:02:11,920 Speaker 2: Is Yeah, it's super funny again for us to actually 55 00:02:11,960 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 2: be able to talk about these rumors. This is the 56 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 2: first off season in the three years of doing this 57 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:20,080 Speaker 2: podcast where we get to talk about rumors because of 58 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,560 Speaker 2: what just the weird circumstances of where we were before. 59 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:24,079 Speaker 1: And then we're sating it every episode. Do you say 60 00:02:24,080 --> 00:02:24,919 Speaker 1: that every episode? Now? 61 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 2: Some people miss it, some people forget it. I'm just 62 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:29,040 Speaker 2: so happy we get to do this. This is all 63 00:02:29,080 --> 00:02:31,160 Speaker 2: we wanted for years. This is when you get the numbers, 64 00:02:31,200 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 2: and we got actual numbers. Maybe about Juan Soto, the 65 00:02:35,880 --> 00:02:39,120 Speaker 2: Mets met with Soto apparently over the weekend in California, 66 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 2: Steve Cohen, David Searns, maybe Francisco, Lindora. We have no 67 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:45,680 Speaker 2: clue whether or not he was there. And yeah, and 68 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,000 Speaker 2: Carls Mendoza, but from Carlos Bierga and Hector Gomez, who 69 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:52,280 Speaker 2: are I mean? Carls Bierra, former MLB player, weirdly breaks 70 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: news sometimes and sometimes is very wrong. Hector Gomez is 71 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 2: also super hit or miss on what he knows. He's 72 00:02:58,880 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: locked into the Dominican like he's a guy with the 73 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:04,360 Speaker 2: Dominican players. He seems to be right more often than not. 74 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:08,320 Speaker 2: But maybe he's just regurgitating Carlos by Erga because for 75 00:03:08,400 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 2: lack of a better term, And this is what we're kind 76 00:03:09,880 --> 00:03:12,640 Speaker 2: of learning this offseason. There are just a lot of 77 00:03:12,720 --> 00:03:14,920 Speaker 2: aggregators when it comes to Twitter, and right now it 78 00:03:14,919 --> 00:03:16,880 Speaker 2: seems like everybody is just trying to get out as 79 00:03:16,960 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 2: much news as possible on Twitter. 80 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:20,520 Speaker 1: You can monetize your Twitter now. 81 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: Everybody's trying to get those impressions, make some money, get 82 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: your money. I'm about it, but this is what ends 83 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 2: up happening. Six hundred and sixty million dollars is the 84 00:03:27,480 --> 00:03:30,680 Speaker 2: supposed number that the Mets offered to wan Soto this weekend. 85 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,519 Speaker 2: The other rumors around it were that apparently the Mets 86 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 2: came with an extremely detailed plan. The WANSDA was very 87 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: impressed by what the Mets had by how prepared they 88 00:03:39,400 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 2: were and how like very much focused they were about 89 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: what was going to happen when they get wan soda, 90 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 2: what's next. I love hearing that more than I love 91 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,200 Speaker 2: hearing the number, because to me, as long as the 92 00:03:48,200 --> 00:03:49,880 Speaker 2: Mets are the highest bidder, that's really all I can 93 00:03:49,920 --> 00:03:50,240 Speaker 2: ask for. 94 00:03:50,320 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: But six sixty million, that is quite a bit of money. 95 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:54,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, But an important thing to remember right now is 96 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:58,960 Speaker 3: that there's no verification on whether that number is real, fake, high, low, 97 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 3: anything end with that report. The thing that makes me 98 00:04:01,560 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 3: think it was the fakes is that there was no 99 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,560 Speaker 3: year associated with that. That was just a number. Is 100 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:07,920 Speaker 3: that ten years? Is that fifteen years? Is that thirteen years? 101 00:04:07,920 --> 00:04:10,400 Speaker 3: There's nothing. No one ever came around and said years. 102 00:04:10,400 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: The only person who said any years. Two people actually, 103 00:04:12,840 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 3: and neither of them know what's going on. One was 104 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 3: Mike Francessa, who said he heard seven hundred and two 105 00:04:17,279 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 3: millions for twelve or thirteen years. That's some classic Mike Francessa. 106 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:23,760 Speaker 3: And then I think either John Boy Jim Bob as 107 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:26,400 Speaker 3: you'd like to call him here so so lovely, either 108 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 3: paraphrase from Mike Francessa or francessa paraphrase from him where 109 00:04:30,720 --> 00:04:32,479 Speaker 3: he said he heard it was the six sixty for 110 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 3: twelve to thirteen years as well, thirteen or fourteen years 111 00:04:34,839 --> 00:04:36,680 Speaker 3: of every said in that tweet, where these people are 112 00:04:36,680 --> 00:04:38,599 Speaker 3: just pulling things out that think they make sense, and 113 00:04:38,600 --> 00:04:41,480 Speaker 3: then content gets made, Tweets get sent out, impressions get 114 00:04:41,480 --> 00:04:43,279 Speaker 3: built up, and suddenly you have a day on Twitter 115 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: with there's millions of impressions about fake contracts, and that's offered 116 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 3: one so though that we do not know if they 117 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 3: are real, and likely these are not real. They were 118 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:50,920 Speaker 3: talking a lot about how these first meetings there were 119 00:04:50,920 --> 00:04:53,039 Speaker 3: no money involved, like maybe Steve Cohen wants to drop 120 00:04:53,040 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 3: a godfather off. Logically in our Mets fan minds, like 121 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: that would make some sense that he would be like, 122 00:04:57,960 --> 00:05:00,640 Speaker 3: here's the deal that gives you the mo most present 123 00:05:00,760 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 3: day money of any baseball player ever, because we do 124 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:04,480 Speaker 3: know that. How because of how much money was defferd 125 00:05:04,480 --> 00:05:07,240 Speaker 3: from Shohio Tani's deal last year, it kind of end 126 00:05:07,320 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 3: up as being more or less like a ten for 127 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 3: a five hundred million dollar deal, more like a ten 128 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:14,000 Speaker 3: for four to sixty million with all deferred money that 129 00:05:14,000 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 3: would come out to a similar AAV as all those 130 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,360 Speaker 3: random fake contracts just had for so though, and he 131 00:05:18,400 --> 00:05:20,160 Speaker 3: would get more of it upfront. We also know, if 132 00:05:20,160 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 3: you get more of it up front, maybe some of 133 00:05:21,680 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 3: this money would be deferred. It would make a lot 134 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:24,760 Speaker 3: of sense for some of this money would be deferred. 135 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,160 Speaker 3: We didn't know show his money was going to be 136 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: deferred until like twenty minutes after the contract was reportedly 137 00:05:28,680 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 3: signed last year. So again, the big crocks of what's 138 00:05:31,120 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 3: going on this time of year we do not know. 139 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 3: But like you said, I love the fact that the 140 00:05:35,200 --> 00:05:37,480 Speaker 3: Mets are coming with a plan. And there's been some 141 00:05:37,520 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 3: other reports the last couple days, and Ernest Dove said this, 142 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:41,280 Speaker 3: and I think Tim Britton was talking about it to that. 143 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 1: As all this. 144 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:44,159 Speaker 3: Stuff goes on for the Mets, a lot of money 145 00:05:44,160 --> 00:05:46,760 Speaker 3: they keep seeing is being reinvested in the minor league program. 146 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,080 Speaker 3: They're building more housing near Port Saint Lucy. The pitching 147 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 3: lab is bustling right now. They could play more money 148 00:05:51,240 --> 00:05:53,760 Speaker 3: at the player's nutrition, in their foods types. Those are 149 00:05:53,839 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 3: things you could tell a player like Wan So that 150 00:05:55,279 --> 00:05:57,359 Speaker 3: when he'll I think understand how important it is for 151 00:05:57,360 --> 00:05:59,279 Speaker 3: the future and why he'd want to join an organization 152 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:00,360 Speaker 3: that's doing things like this. 153 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:01,920 Speaker 1: Well, there was a report and I don't remember who 154 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:02,480 Speaker 1: it came out by. 155 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,719 Speaker 2: Again, it was like Friday night and I was at 156 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:08,640 Speaker 2: a wedding, but it was saying that Juan Soto apparently 157 00:06:08,680 --> 00:06:10,960 Speaker 2: not only cares about, like you know, getting his money, 158 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 2: making sure he's on a winning team. He wants to 159 00:06:12,760 --> 00:06:15,479 Speaker 2: know how are you gonna build a sustainable winner as well, 160 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,839 Speaker 2: because if you're signing a contract with the team for 161 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:19,720 Speaker 2: fifteen years, you don't want to end up having the 162 00:06:19,760 --> 00:06:22,280 Speaker 2: Chris Bryant situation where you're like, oh my god, these 163 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:24,160 Speaker 2: guys the Rockies gave me all this money, but I'm 164 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 2: never gonna be on a winning team again, Like this 165 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:28,320 Speaker 2: franchise as a hole for the entire time that I'm here. 166 00:06:28,360 --> 00:06:30,760 Speaker 2: I will never play winning baseball again in my life. 167 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:33,360 Speaker 2: Wan Sota wants to make sure that you, like you said, 168 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 2: you are gonna spend that money on the minor league system. 169 00:06:35,160 --> 00:06:36,839 Speaker 2: You're gonna be able to go out and sign other players. 170 00:06:36,839 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 2: Who else is gonna be joining me here? Because I 171 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:41,200 Speaker 2: know that just me does not make this team better 172 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: than the Los Angeles Dodgers, does not make us World 173 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: Series champions. You gotta go out and get a full 174 00:06:46,320 --> 00:06:48,720 Speaker 2: MLB roster and make that team good. And I think 175 00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:50,240 Speaker 2: the fact that one David Surton is one of the 176 00:06:50,240 --> 00:06:53,040 Speaker 2: smartest executives in all Major League Baseball, Steve Collins got 177 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:55,320 Speaker 2: the deepest pockets in all of Major League Baseball. Carls 178 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,960 Speaker 2: Mendoza seems to be one of the just more well 179 00:06:58,080 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 2: rounded managers in Major League Baseball. That's got to be 180 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,120 Speaker 2: something that's reassuring to a guy like Juan Soto as well, 181 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:06,839 Speaker 2: who's been in a bunch of different organizations casually all 182 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 2: built very differently. The Yankees are built very differently than 183 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,840 Speaker 2: the Padres. The Padres were built very differently than the Nationals. 184 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 2: He's been able to kind of see all the different 185 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:17,880 Speaker 2: teams and how they've built. I think this is like 186 00:07:17,920 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 2: a really it's even more unique than we are making 187 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:24,360 Speaker 2: this one Sota free agency to be because he's almost 188 00:07:24,400 --> 00:07:26,040 Speaker 2: using it as he's part of the front office too 189 00:07:26,080 --> 00:07:26,440 Speaker 2: in a way. 190 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 3: Another thing that makes you unique is that it's rare 191 00:07:29,200 --> 00:07:31,560 Speaker 3: that any players on their first contract get to play 192 00:07:31,560 --> 00:07:34,120 Speaker 3: for that many different teams. Yes, let alone players who 193 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: are this good and this valuable on the open market. 194 00:07:36,240 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 3: So the fact that he did get to have three 195 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 3: very like honest looks, and three different organizations, like you 196 00:07:41,400 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 3: just said, run their team very differently. This whole situation 197 00:07:45,040 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 3: is incredibly unique, and we keep saying how unique he 198 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 3: is a freegent, how unique he is a free agent 199 00:07:48,240 --> 00:07:50,119 Speaker 3: like this is this is like Alex Rodriguez free agency 200 00:07:50,120 --> 00:07:52,880 Speaker 3: on steroids, probably less about a raw where he wanted 201 00:07:52,880 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: to see who would just treat him the best simply 202 00:07:54,560 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 3: as a human, who would give him the most things, 203 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 3: rather than who could build the best winner and the 204 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 3: aired one's also weird comparison. He got fucking traded two 205 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:03,840 Speaker 3: years after that to the Yankees. But there was also 206 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 3: the report that came out late last week from Joseph Rebo. 207 00:08:07,480 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: Rebel Ross Rebel, I don't not say the last name 208 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: r E b O y r A. S. Raboyas, I don't. 209 00:08:12,520 --> 00:08:15,480 Speaker 3: Know raboyas Roboris Joseph Boris, I basically said that it 210 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 3: was translated post to Carls Beltran said the team will 211 00:08:17,520 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: do whatever it takes to sign one, and then that 212 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 3: got blasted again by all the new Mets aggregators. Rip 213 00:08:22,600 --> 00:08:25,960 Speaker 3: Jenny Mets. I don't know if that quote was real, 214 00:08:26,000 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 3: I'm not. This is nothing about josephro Borias following or 215 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 3: his job as a reporter. He's eight hundred followers, I 216 00:08:31,840 --> 00:08:34,160 Speaker 3: don't know. It's never been breaking news that he's done before. 217 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:36,439 Speaker 3: So for Carls Beltran, a member of the Mets organization, 218 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:38,640 Speaker 3: to say things like this out loud, that seems like 219 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 3: just kind of ridiculous to me that they would show 220 00:08:40,400 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 3: their hand that much. 221 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:41,920 Speaker 1: It's not that they're showing their hands. 222 00:08:41,960 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: I think everybody knows that the Mets are going to 223 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:46,320 Speaker 3: do everything in their power to sign Wan Solo. But again, 224 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 3: this is just this time of year. You have to 225 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:50,559 Speaker 3: be so careful, especially in this new world of where 226 00:08:50,600 --> 00:08:52,440 Speaker 3: the Mets are, well, we're gonna be we we are 227 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 3: the bad guys right now. We're linked to everybody, we 228 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 3: have the most money, we have the most space in 229 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 3: front of our luxury attacks. Like we said in the 230 00:08:58,200 --> 00:09:00,760 Speaker 3: last episode to you guys, we should be like to everybody. 231 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,480 Speaker 3: We should be in on everybody. There should be plan A, 232 00:09:02,520 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 3: Plan B, Plan C, Plan D, like we should have 233 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,880 Speaker 3: everything lined up and ready to go. So be super 234 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,000 Speaker 3: duper careful of what you're seeing on Twitter. 235 00:09:09,360 --> 00:09:12,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, oh, without a doubt. I think it's just everything 236 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 2: with a grain of salt. Again, we love Tim Britton, 237 00:09:15,280 --> 00:09:17,040 Speaker 2: we love Will Sam and those are guys we love 238 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:20,520 Speaker 2: Heally as well. Yeah, Tacoma, Like, those guys are all 239 00:09:20,679 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 2: very reliable sources. And then you have Ken Rosenthal, Jeff Passing, 240 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 2: like the big names, Bob Nightingales a legend, He's tweeted it. 241 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:29,839 Speaker 2: He's been played a fool so many times. I mean, 242 00:09:29,880 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 2: Trevor Bauer played him like the biggest fool ever when 243 00:09:32,200 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 2: he tweeted out that he signed with the New York 244 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,880 Speaker 2: Mets and then an hour later was Los Angeles Dodre. 245 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:37,000 Speaker 1: I mean, thank god that happened. 246 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:40,560 Speaker 2: But we know that there's definitely an inner circle of 247 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 2: trust and guys that will give you legitimate news. When 248 00:09:44,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 2: they tweet something that it's true, that is the news, 249 00:09:47,520 --> 00:09:50,959 Speaker 2: that is fact. There is no speculation right now. Everything 250 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,680 Speaker 2: we're seeing is speculation. And what I kind of like 251 00:09:53,720 --> 00:09:56,760 Speaker 2: about this too, is I love that there's so much 252 00:09:56,760 --> 00:09:58,600 Speaker 2: speculation about the Mets because that I think that means 253 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 2: we're a little more tight lipped than we know normally 254 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:02,000 Speaker 2: have been in the past. And that's something we've noticed 255 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:05,079 Speaker 2: with the coin organization too, is that the leaks, the 256 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:07,640 Speaker 2: rumors and everything not really coming out as much as 257 00:10:07,679 --> 00:10:08,920 Speaker 2: they were in the past. 258 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,280 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think it's sign of a healthy front office 259 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:13,480 Speaker 3: because again, all of these rumors that are coming out, 260 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:15,360 Speaker 3: they are not exactly people that usually have their finger 261 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 3: on any Mets pulse. No, we have colls Berger, we 262 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: have Hector Gomez, we have Michael Kay who said that 263 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 3: the Mets are expected to beat any offer that comes 264 00:10:22,640 --> 00:10:23,800 Speaker 3: out by fifty million dollars. 265 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,080 Speaker 1: Where does that number come from? I love like the 266 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: idea of Michael Kay. 267 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 2: I know he used to be a reporter, like before 268 00:10:28,920 --> 00:10:30,920 Speaker 2: he became the Yankees guy, he was a reporter, so 269 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 2: I'm sure in the nineties he had connections and stuff 270 00:10:33,640 --> 00:10:35,880 Speaker 2: like that. But like, it's definitely feels like one of 271 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 2: those things where in conversation with someone they were like, 272 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:41,560 Speaker 2: yeahs SPE's gonna probably spend fifty million mores, Like that's 273 00:10:41,600 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: a fact, I'm gonna say. 274 00:10:42,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: Exactly, yeah, and it is probably. 275 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: Again, this like little circles going around between Jim, Bob 276 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 3: Frances and Michael Kay. We are all kind of regurgitating 277 00:10:47,920 --> 00:10:49,960 Speaker 3: each other's rumors and then saying they heard it from somewhere, 278 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 3: they heard it from somewhere. 279 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 1: They heard him somewhere. 280 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,599 Speaker 3: Now we have a triangle of nonsense, a triangle of 281 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:55,400 Speaker 3: bullshit right there, and we don't know what's true. 282 00:10:55,559 --> 00:10:57,400 Speaker 1: Then you do have the article from John. 283 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,559 Speaker 3: Hayman saying that the Mets meeting with one so that 284 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 3: went very well, which is like that when Hayman says 285 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: something that vague. 286 00:11:03,720 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 1: We also know I do believe him, and we also 287 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: know he's the Boris puppet. He's got the strings. It's 288 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:12,880 Speaker 1: hard like he he is the Boris puppet. 289 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,439 Speaker 3: And if it would make the most sense ever for 290 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:18,800 Speaker 3: all this news come out about how well the Mets 291 00:11:18,800 --> 00:11:20,760 Speaker 3: did in their meeting the day before he meets with 292 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,199 Speaker 3: the Yankees, right, Like, wouldn't that make a lot of 293 00:11:22,240 --> 00:11:23,800 Speaker 3: sense to all of you guys? Is that the best 294 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,839 Speaker 3: thing to possibly get the most money is scared of 295 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,320 Speaker 3: the Yankees as fucking much as possible before they meet 296 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:30,600 Speaker 3: with him, Like it's all It all makes sense when 297 00:11:30,600 --> 00:11:32,440 Speaker 3: you step back. But we're so deep in it right now, 298 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:33,959 Speaker 3: and we won't want some of this team so fucking 299 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,120 Speaker 3: bad that it's hard to it's hard to separate, like 300 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:37,199 Speaker 3: the real from the bullshit. 301 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:39,480 Speaker 2: Oh, it's it's super hard and I can't blame anybody 302 00:11:39,480 --> 00:11:42,160 Speaker 2: who has a difficulty separating it because the world that 303 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:45,680 Speaker 2: we live in is just regurgitate diarrhea, put it on 304 00:11:45,679 --> 00:11:47,960 Speaker 2: on Twitter and hope that it gets impressions. 305 00:11:48,000 --> 00:11:49,360 Speaker 1: That's really how it works. That's what we do on 306 00:11:49,400 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 1: this channel too. 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See mint mobile for details. 332 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:06,240 Speaker 2: All right, so we know Wan Soto, we want them badly. 333 00:13:06,440 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 2: I still can't believe that the conversation there's people out 334 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,439 Speaker 2: there who are, like, spend the money on two superstars 335 00:13:11,600 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 2: one Who are the two superstars available right now to 336 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: spend that money on. I would like to know who 337 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:19,600 Speaker 2: the two players are on the market. What Pilonzo Corman burns? 338 00:13:19,679 --> 00:13:20,839 Speaker 1: Oh y, yeah, yeah, I'm sure. 339 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:23,240 Speaker 2: I'm sure those guys are equal value to Wan Soto 340 00:13:23,320 --> 00:13:24,160 Speaker 2: in terms of players. 341 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:26,160 Speaker 3: I mean, a really good comparison for something like this 342 00:13:26,280 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 3: is like ten years ago now when the Yankees missed 343 00:13:28,040 --> 00:13:30,040 Speaker 3: out lost out Robinson Cano when he went to Seattle 344 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:31,920 Speaker 3: before he famously came to the Mets, and the Yankees 345 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: were like, you know what, we missed out Robins of Cano. 346 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:34,880 Speaker 1: The price tag got too big for us. We're gonna 347 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:35,720 Speaker 1: spread the money around. 348 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:39,680 Speaker 3: We're gonna get a dynamic center fielder, like a stud catcher. 349 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: And then I think they got a picture with that, 350 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 3: but I can't remember. But I know the other two. 351 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: Oh no, and they got No, they got two outfielders 352 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:46,160 Speaker 3: and a catcher. That's what they did. Do you remember 353 00:13:46,160 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 3: who it was? Jacoby Elsberry, Yes, Brian McCann. 354 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: Yeah. Who's the other outfielder that the Yankees will spent 355 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,720 Speaker 1: money on? Was it Aaron Hicks? No, give you a hint. 356 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,080 Speaker 1: I already said his name on this podcast. 357 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,760 Speaker 2: For he said his name on the podcast. Who was it, 358 00:14:00,920 --> 00:14:05,040 Speaker 2: I don't know, I'm blanking right now. Carlos Beltron, Oh yeah, yeah, 359 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: Carlos was a Yankee. 360 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 5: Yeah. 361 00:14:06,679 --> 00:14:08,440 Speaker 3: So they paid those guys and came out to like, 362 00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:09,839 Speaker 3: I think even a little bit more than ROMs of 363 00:14:09,880 --> 00:14:12,080 Speaker 3: canoza AV and I think everyone would have probably rather 364 00:14:12,160 --> 00:14:12,839 Speaker 3: just signed the one guy. 365 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: So spread the money around to three bus. 366 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:18,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because and again none of those guys want. Soto 367 00:14:18,080 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 2: was like, I don't know so much better than Robinson 368 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 2: Cano even was so. 369 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:23,520 Speaker 3: And I think there's also just a lot of concern 370 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 3: that people are scared that what Solo's gonna get annually 371 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 3: is gonna like totally like block in the Mets roster, 372 00:14:30,040 --> 00:14:32,360 Speaker 3: where again we talked about last episode, the Mets have 373 00:14:32,360 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: an unprecedented amount of money they're willing to spend this offseason, 374 00:14:34,840 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 3: considering how far they are below to compe to the 375 00:14:37,160 --> 00:14:39,360 Speaker 3: balanced tax lines right now, and how how willing Steve 376 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 3: come has always been to go well above. 377 00:14:41,160 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 1: Every single tax threshold. 378 00:14:42,280 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: We're the only team that I think, I think the 379 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:45,280 Speaker 3: Dodgers probably in the Yankees tube, I think only us 380 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 3: the Dodgers three years. 381 00:14:46,160 --> 00:14:47,600 Speaker 1: In a row, got over all three levels. 382 00:14:48,000 --> 00:14:49,760 Speaker 3: And then you compare it to the show Hall Timey 383 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 3: contract where against the luxury tax, he's kind of forty 384 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 3: six million dollars, which is like exactly where this one 385 00:14:55,440 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 3: and so of the deal is gonna end up in range. 386 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 3: Like I sad, everyone's mind's getting a little bit flexed 387 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 3: by all of these reports at like a ten year, 388 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:04,520 Speaker 3: six hundred million dollar contract not happening. There's no fucking 389 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 3: way that's true. That's just not true. It doesn't make 390 00:15:06,400 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 3: sense for one solo signed ten year contract. Why would 391 00:15:08,480 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 3: the twenty six year old want a ten year contract. 392 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 3: He should want a five year contract or a fifteen 393 00:15:12,320 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 3: year contract. Ten does nothing for him, so he can 394 00:15:14,400 --> 00:15:16,080 Speaker 3: be free agent at thirty six years old. That's the 395 00:15:16,080 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 3: worst time to be a free agent. He'll do everything 396 00:15:17,760 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 3: his power not to make that contract happen. That's again sidebar. 397 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:22,200 Speaker 3: We gotta do it like once a month. So by 398 00:15:22,280 --> 00:15:24,400 Speaker 3: Francisco indoor contract. So fucking good, it's over. He's thirty 399 00:15:24,400 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 3: seven years old. No other contract in baseball like that. 400 00:15:26,560 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: Just man, so fucking great. I just I can't we do. 401 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:30,760 Speaker 1: It too much now. 402 00:15:30,800 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 3: You guys probably get annoyed, but I can't see any 403 00:15:32,360 --> 00:15:34,040 Speaker 3: reason why you don't give one so though as much 404 00:15:34,080 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 3: money as he could possibly desire. 405 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, give him all the money, give him a blank check, 406 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,440 Speaker 2: and I really do think they will all right. Some 407 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 2: other rumors to talk about here from other players and 408 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,080 Speaker 2: other reporters. I mentioned our boy Bobby Nightingale earlier. He 409 00:15:45,120 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 2: put out a tweet I think on the weekend or 410 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 2: just before the weekend started, that the Mets will aggressively 411 00:15:49,720 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 2: pursue Christian Walker Martiniz Sports Management or his agent. I 412 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 2: don't know really who else they have on their client list, 413 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,280 Speaker 2: because when you go to their website, their main that 414 00:16:00,280 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: they're showing off on there as Derek Hollins, who I 415 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 2: don't think it has been a major League baseball for 416 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:06,400 Speaker 2: a couple of years, So that's that's interesting. 417 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 1: I listen. 418 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,120 Speaker 2: I like Christian Walker. I prefer Pete A. Lonzo I 419 00:16:10,160 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 2: think over a longer period of time. Christianer Walker is 420 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:14,560 Speaker 2: very much a short term plan at first base. I 421 00:16:14,600 --> 00:16:17,520 Speaker 2: don't see him signing more than a three year contract 422 00:16:17,560 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 2: at most because I think he's thirty four to thirty 423 00:16:19,160 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 2: five years old. 424 00:16:20,280 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: He's a good player. I think he's very comparable to 425 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: what Peter A. 426 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:25,160 Speaker 2: Lonzo is going to give you the last couple of years, 427 00:16:25,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 2: Like they've they've been neck and neck in terms of production. 428 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:29,960 Speaker 2: He would just be a shorter term fix and probably 429 00:16:30,040 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 2: end up still being around the same aav as Pete 430 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 2: for those years that he signed. 431 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:36,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, it is a little different, though, and I get 432 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:38,840 Speaker 3: all this will trickle down just based on what happens 433 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 3: once so though, but Pete is simply going to give 434 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: you more home runs, yes, and a little bit worse defense, 435 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,360 Speaker 3: but the first base defense thing, we're always like I 436 00:16:44,480 --> 00:16:46,160 Speaker 3: dodged do simply don't give a fuck. And Pete is 437 00:16:46,200 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 3: a good scooper, so I'll give him that for the 438 00:16:48,120 --> 00:16:51,440 Speaker 3: first base defense elite scoops. But I just see I 439 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:53,200 Speaker 3: can I can see the Mets wanting to be a 440 00:16:53,240 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 3: little bit more flexible at their cost at a position 441 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: that they don't think is the most important. If they 442 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 3: had just committed for the million dollars a year to 443 00:17:00,960 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 3: one player for the next fifteen years, like, I could 444 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:04,000 Speaker 3: see them being like, let's let's make sure we don't 445 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:05,600 Speaker 3: put on too many long commitments on. 446 00:17:05,600 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Top of this. 447 00:17:06,400 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 3: I also, again just can't really see why they would 448 00:17:09,880 --> 00:17:12,199 Speaker 3: be again, like quote aggressive about these things, which is 449 00:17:12,200 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 3: why this time, Hey, areno, you have to kind of 450 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 3: ignore every single thing you hear. 451 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's no reason to be aggressive on anybody 452 00:17:18,800 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 2: right now besides Wan Soto and I guess Corbyn Burns. 453 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 2: I think those would be the two guys right now 454 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 2: that if there was ever a rush to be like, 455 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:27,800 Speaker 2: I want to get him done right now, is because 456 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: they're gonna be an amount of money where you want 457 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:32,119 Speaker 2: to get that settled instantly. And they're a caliber of 458 00:17:32,119 --> 00:17:34,680 Speaker 2: player where you want to get that settled instantly. Christian 459 00:17:34,720 --> 00:17:36,080 Speaker 2: Walker's a guy who could still be a free. 460 00:17:35,920 --> 00:17:38,080 Speaker 1: Agent in January. I think. I think that's a super peky. 461 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:39,280 Speaker 1: He could be a frag in March. 462 00:17:39,440 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, and it's it's nothing against how he is 463 00:17:41,520 --> 00:17:43,440 Speaker 2: as a player. He's a very good baseball player. It's 464 00:17:43,520 --> 00:17:47,400 Speaker 2: just they're like, it's him and Pete Alonzo, that's that's 465 00:17:47,440 --> 00:17:48,920 Speaker 2: it at first base, and even. 466 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: Then Golschmid and different levels. But yeah, like. 467 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 2: The price difference doesn't make you need to rush to 468 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 2: sign Christian Walker when the production can also be comparable 469 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 2: for those guys at some point. 470 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 3: For sure, another guy who I think could be a 471 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:04,639 Speaker 3: free agent for a very very long time. Yeah, the 472 00:18:04,680 --> 00:18:07,600 Speaker 3: other rumors that are going out. Bob Nineingels also connected 473 00:18:07,640 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 3: the Mets to Alex Bregman, said the Mets are seriously 474 00:18:09,640 --> 00:18:12,800 Speaker 3: considering Alex Bregman and to move Mark Fantis the first base. Again, 475 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 3: we do not know where these rumors are coming from. 476 00:18:14,840 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 3: We have no idea. There's no indication of the Mets 477 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 3: that they ever want to change Mark Zandel's position. It's 478 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,359 Speaker 3: just people saying these things, and people connected. And then 479 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 3: the report comes out on Monday that Alex Bregman is 480 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 3: seeking a deal that's comparable to Many Michilo's contract, which 481 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 3: was eleven for three hundred and fifty million dollars. Eleven 482 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 3: for three hundred and thirty million dollars. 483 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:31,639 Speaker 5: Correct. 484 00:18:31,880 --> 00:18:35,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's crazy what they're connected him to. And 485 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 2: this comes from Ken Rosenthal article as well, So there's 486 00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 2: so definitely, definitely real. Yeah, and it's Scott Borris is 487 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:43,400 Speaker 2: saying he wants close to an eleven year, three hundred 488 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 2: and fifty million dollars deal, which I mean, there's just 489 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: no way on God's green Earth that Alex Breman gets 490 00:18:48,280 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 2: that kind of money. He will be a free agent 491 00:18:49,680 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: till the end of time. If that's what he wants, 492 00:18:51,680 --> 00:18:52,840 Speaker 2: no one will to sign him. 493 00:18:53,200 --> 00:18:53,760 Speaker 1: That's another thing. 494 00:18:53,760 --> 00:18:55,639 Speaker 3: This time, this time of year is really just to 495 00:18:55,680 --> 00:18:58,200 Speaker 3: get more money for your clients. All of these rumors 496 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 3: can all be traced back to an age that wants 497 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:02,960 Speaker 3: to get every single dollar out of the baseball team 498 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:04,919 Speaker 3: they're trying to negotiate with for the player that they 499 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:07,560 Speaker 3: wanted to be on their team, every single one. This 500 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:10,000 Speaker 3: is nonsense. I think Alex Bregman and Scott boris no 501 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,320 Speaker 3: that there's no way that he's gonna get Macha's contract. 502 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:14,560 Speaker 3: He's worse in every fastt of the game, and he 503 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,480 Speaker 3: has basically his entire career. 504 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 1: Like there's no one year where they cheated. Yeah, he has, but. 505 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:21,440 Speaker 3: There's nothing that Bregman does in baseball feels better than Chadlow. 506 00:19:21,440 --> 00:19:24,560 Speaker 3: There's not saying Bregman's not a great player. Bregman's fantastic player. 507 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,640 Speaker 1: But for him too. And also, Machida was twenty seven 508 00:19:26,680 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: when he signed that deal. Bregman was a early thirty. 509 00:19:28,560 --> 00:19:32,679 Speaker 2: Like the absolutely uh Machado's contract was actually cheaper the 510 00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,159 Speaker 2: first time he signed around I think it was ten 511 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 2: for three hundred, and then this last February he had 512 00:19:36,520 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 2: the opt out the renegotiation and became eleven for three fifty. 513 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 2: But that was that was to sign him till the 514 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:43,840 Speaker 2: end of time, like he no longer has to worry 515 00:19:43,840 --> 00:19:45,920 Speaker 2: about a contract anymore. Where the first one I think 516 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,440 Speaker 2: made him similarly a free agent at like thirty eight. 517 00:19:48,520 --> 00:19:50,440 Speaker 2: I think this one bought out those years till he's forty. 518 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,520 Speaker 3: And that's also an interesting thing because who signed that contract. 519 00:19:53,600 --> 00:19:56,280 Speaker 3: The San Diego Padres correct yes, yeah, okay, So if 520 00:19:56,280 --> 00:19:58,080 Speaker 3: you look at right now, all the contracts in baseball 521 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 3: has guys signed until their past forty years old. Right now, 522 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: it's it's it's three Padres, it is is Zando, two Padres, 523 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 3: Xander Bogarts, and it's many Machado and then you have 524 00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 3: Trey Turner. Those are the contracts I've guys sign until 525 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:11,160 Speaker 3: they're forty. 526 00:20:11,359 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 1: That's it. Oh, I thought you had more. I thought 527 00:20:14,240 --> 00:20:16,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get that was that's all. I was gonna get. 528 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:18,040 Speaker 1: What else you want? I don't know? 529 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 2: All right, Next rumor, Nolan Aeronado apparently could be a 530 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,840 Speaker 2: fit for the Mets from John Hayman. I mean, I love, 531 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 2: I love the wording here. This player could be a fit. 532 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:29,040 Speaker 2: What do you watch our video? And then he just regurgitated. 533 00:20:29,160 --> 00:20:30,760 Speaker 2: He was like, you know, what makes sense If the 534 00:20:30,800 --> 00:20:33,400 Speaker 2: Mets need a third baseman, they could trade for Nolan Aeronado. 535 00:20:33,480 --> 00:20:36,040 Speaker 2: I mean, thanks John, good reporting there, Bud. 536 00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: My dad told me that too. He was like, is 537 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:39,360 Speaker 3: he watching your guys videos? I was like, I don't 538 00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:40,880 Speaker 3: think so, but I mean I think it's just again, 539 00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 3: it makes sense that Nolan Arnado is a fit for 540 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,360 Speaker 3: the Mets. We got there by logic. John Hayman also 541 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 3: probably got there by logic, probably got there a week 542 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 3: later because he had other articles to writing, things to do. 543 00:20:49,400 --> 00:20:51,840 Speaker 3: But that's just kind of I guess he is a 544 00:20:51,880 --> 00:20:53,800 Speaker 3: fit again, and we people have been, I think, weirdly 545 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 3: coming around on the Fit recently. 546 00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,040 Speaker 1: You don't think so, you think it's the opposite. I 547 00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:59,639 Speaker 1: think I think people are very against it. 548 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,720 Speaker 2: And I again, my mind's really only been on Wan Soto, 549 00:21:02,800 --> 00:21:05,200 Speaker 2: so I haven't even considered it, like actually outside of 550 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:06,920 Speaker 2: the time we did the video. 551 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,240 Speaker 1: But where are you seeing people coming around to it? 552 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:10,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. 553 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,960 Speaker 3: I feel oh, I think actually Mookie Best also going 554 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:13,640 Speaker 3: back to look at some more contracts, is signed that's 555 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,200 Speaker 3: to forty years old, so a fourth. 556 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 2: Guy beside it feels like it's gonna age like Wine though, 557 00:21:17,400 --> 00:21:18,840 Speaker 2: like he's just such a little freak. 558 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,480 Speaker 3: Two of the four guys signed to forty. Even Bryce 559 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:23,920 Speaker 3: Harper's gonna be out of there right when he turns 560 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:25,120 Speaker 3: for you. I don't think he actually got to play 561 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 3: his age forty season with the contracts. Just this, it's 562 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 3: just that doesn't happen. The Padres happened to be dumb 563 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,520 Speaker 3: enough to do these a lot because they don't have 564 00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,520 Speaker 3: as much literally money upfront, so they have to give 565 00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:34,439 Speaker 3: money on the back end. And they literally said, we 566 00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: don't care, we will figure that. When that happens, damn 567 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 3: shame their owner passed away. So this was all totally 568 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: a problem for everybody else, not the people who are actually 569 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 3: signing this contracts. The Celtics doing that too. The Celtics 570 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 3: and Basketball just signed so many contracts, go so deep 571 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:49,040 Speaker 3: in the NBA luxury tax for five, six, seven years 572 00:21:49,040 --> 00:21:49,560 Speaker 3: to the whole core. 573 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,800 Speaker 1: Then they put the team for sale. It's like, what 574 00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 1: are you doing? 575 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,239 Speaker 3: Like, it's just I think a lot of people get 576 00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 3: fixated on these numbers and that's all it is. Every 577 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 3: single time this time of year. The owner's doing that. 578 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:00,480 Speaker 1: But again, Nolan are not for the Mets. 579 00:22:00,520 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 3: It makes tons of sense, but not, I don't know, 580 00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 3: it's just you don't really want to think about that. 581 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:06,920 Speaker 1: Now because we have so many bigger fish to fry. No, yeah, 582 00:22:07,000 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 1: like it's that's the problem. More so, Yes, that is 583 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: more so the problem, without a doubt. 584 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,320 Speaker 2: The real thing, which we will talk about after a 585 00:22:13,440 --> 00:22:16,400 Speaker 2: quick ad right here, is gonna be talking about Louis Severino. 586 00:22:16,520 --> 00:22:19,439 Speaker 2: And Shamanaiya because we got some qualifying offer updates, but 587 00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 2: first an ad so we know that Shaman I is 588 00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:26,240 Speaker 2: going to decline the qualifying offer. I think it's technically 589 00:22:26,280 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 2: officially happened already, even though the deadline hasn't passed. But 590 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:31,000 Speaker 2: I mean, we all knew as Mets fans he was 591 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 2: not gonna take a one year deal. He deserves most 592 00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:35,720 Speaker 2: years he's gonna get paid. Peter Alonzo as well. Sever 593 00:22:35,720 --> 00:22:37,960 Speaker 2: Reno's the interesting one because both me and you thought 594 00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 2: that when the Mets gave him the qualifying offer, there 595 00:22:40,960 --> 00:22:44,720 Speaker 2: was almost no chance he wasn't gonna take it. Right now, 596 00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:47,359 Speaker 2: it's expected that he is going to decline the qualifying offer, 597 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 2: per Will Salmon, which is interesting because Severino's. 598 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: Market like he's gonna get paid. 599 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,040 Speaker 2: Like, I'm not denying that he can make close to 600 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 2: twenty million dollars a year, but don't I don't know 601 00:22:59,160 --> 00:23:01,960 Speaker 2: like what happens to contract as the years get added on, 602 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,480 Speaker 2: because I'm sure the reason being is he doesn't sign 603 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 2: an want to sign another one year deal? 604 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:08,440 Speaker 3: True, and I think that again from Louis Evergnna, it 605 00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,520 Speaker 3: seems like a val concern. I'm sure that he has 606 00:23:10,600 --> 00:23:12,920 Speaker 3: had many problems injuries his career, not saying that he 607 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:14,399 Speaker 3: doesn't think he can stay healthy for another one, but 608 00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:15,840 Speaker 3: the fact he did just stay healthy for a whole one. 609 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 3: He was like, I'd really like to get paid multiple 610 00:23:17,800 --> 00:23:19,399 Speaker 3: years now and secure more money than I ever have. 611 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:19,960 Speaker 1: In my career. 612 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 3: But then when you look at other pictures contracts in 613 00:23:22,440 --> 00:23:24,280 Speaker 3: the league, and he starts to look at years and talented, 614 00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:25,959 Speaker 3: the talent of these pictures and where they were when 615 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,399 Speaker 3: they signed these deals. Robbie Ray when he signed his 616 00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,359 Speaker 3: deal was coming off a side young season. He was 617 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,119 Speaker 3: considered like one of the highest free agents in the league. 618 00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:34,560 Speaker 3: He had twenty three million dollars annual deal. Kevin Goussman 619 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,159 Speaker 3: similar to twenty two million, Luis Castillo similar twenty one 620 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,959 Speaker 3: point five million, Chris Basset two years ago. Better than 621 00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:41,639 Speaker 3: sever We're gonna know, more liable for more years. To Seve, 622 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,639 Speaker 3: We're gonna twenty one million. That's the level that the 623 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:45,840 Speaker 3: one year deal would have been. Joe Musgrove also probably 624 00:23:45,880 --> 00:23:48,600 Speaker 3: considered better than Louis Everagna where he is now five years, 625 00:23:48,600 --> 00:23:51,440 Speaker 3: one hundred million, twenty million year. I think we're Severgno 626 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 3: probably settles in I think this is also a situation 627 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: where he's probably fine with it because he's going to 628 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:58,119 Speaker 3: guarantee himself simply just more money than one year for 629 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 3: twenty one million something like which is Troman got last 630 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,040 Speaker 3: year two for thirty seven something like what like I'm 631 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 3: trying to think like James and tay Own got last 632 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,240 Speaker 3: year four for sixty eight, where you're signing a guy 633 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:10,119 Speaker 3: for a lot of the years at below the market 634 00:24:10,160 --> 00:24:12,240 Speaker 3: value technically like below the market value, but. 635 00:24:12,200 --> 00:24:13,280 Speaker 1: You're giving him years a year. 636 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: Like to me, seve Reno seems like someone who's who 637 00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: could really lock himself into like like three for fifty two, Like. 638 00:24:19,800 --> 00:24:21,640 Speaker 2: That feels like a good and it might be more 639 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 2: important for him right now to get a larger total 640 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 2: amount of money because he's like, hey, twenty one million 641 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:29,160 Speaker 2: next year is good. But if I stink I'm that's 642 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: all I got is twenty one million, or if I 643 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 2: get hurt, that's all I got. 644 00:24:32,200 --> 00:24:35,280 Speaker 1: Where I'd rather take less per year, but be able 645 00:24:35,320 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 1: to get a. 646 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:37,960 Speaker 3: Bigger guaranteed once you once you put your name there, 647 00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,880 Speaker 3: it's guaranteed, like John Gray a couple of years ago, 648 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,440 Speaker 3: four for fifty six, like that seems like the low 649 00:24:42,520 --> 00:24:44,000 Speaker 3: end of where a guy like Luis sa Reno like 650 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 3: couldn't show that score. Even two years ago, Zach Gethluin 651 00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:49,560 Speaker 3: got three for forty which is the these offers all like. Now, 652 00:24:49,560 --> 00:24:50,919 Speaker 3: when you look at what these pictures have done on 653 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,560 Speaker 3: these contracts, they're all seem incredibly incredibly cheap. So maybe 654 00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 3: sev Arno could do that too. Also last year Seth 655 00:24:55,520 --> 00:24:58,560 Speaker 3: Lugo three for forty five, fifteen million dollars a year. 656 00:24:58,800 --> 00:25:01,960 Speaker 3: And I also think that the deadline's gonna happen on 657 00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:03,840 Speaker 3: Tuesday four o'clock, so some of you guys are probably 658 00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,680 Speaker 3: listening to this before the deadline. Some of you guys 659 00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 3: might be listen to this after that deadline, So this 660 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,240 Speaker 3: comment could be stupid. I think a little part of 661 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:11,520 Speaker 3: it might be some posturing from sever Reno and just 662 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 3: trying to get that last like two year, three year 663 00:25:14,080 --> 00:25:16,360 Speaker 3: deal off or from the Mets. I don't know if 664 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 3: that means he actually if he doesn't get that from 665 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:20,360 Speaker 3: the Mets sinics. I think he loves being in New York. 666 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 3: I think he really likes being on this team too. 667 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,560 Speaker 3: We just saw a whole weekend of our whole week 668 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 3: of Louis Averno, Jos Akatani stalling mart Sean vacation together 669 00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 3: in Japan, which is I don't know many other baseball 670 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,560 Speaker 3: teams that vacation to Asia together. So that's that was 671 00:25:31,600 --> 00:25:34,080 Speaker 3: pretty cool to see. But it seems like is the 672 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,000 Speaker 3: timing of when that rumor came out, like four days 673 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:38,280 Speaker 3: before the deadline, someone who also is like I love 674 00:25:38,359 --> 00:25:39,760 Speaker 3: being in New York. That was part of the report 675 00:25:39,800 --> 00:25:41,919 Speaker 3: that Will Sam had put out there. That's like one 676 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:43,840 Speaker 3: last nutch to the Mets. He'd like, meet me somewhere 677 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,520 Speaker 3: in the middle here that we'd love to get this done. 678 00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,840 Speaker 3: There could also be a world where the Mets don't 679 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,639 Speaker 3: want to do that for all the same reasons we 680 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,120 Speaker 3: said before, knowing Louis Everyne's injured history, knowing that last 681 00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 3: year most of his talent came from mitigating heart contact 682 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:57,960 Speaker 3: rather than becoming like the power of strike got pitch 683 00:25:58,040 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 3: that used to be in the past. Like everything Severrino 684 00:25:59,840 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: did last year wasn't exactly stickier, repeatable, or trustworthy more 685 00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 3: than like what you would hope for, like a three starter, 686 00:26:06,760 --> 00:26:08,399 Speaker 3: which is again back in the range of where I 687 00:26:08,440 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 3: think I'm pegging him for some of these deals. 688 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, And I think the other thing that makes it 689 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:15,800 Speaker 2: feel like maybe some posturing two for Severino is having 690 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 2: that qualifying offer declined by him and then becoming a 691 00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:20,000 Speaker 2: free agent makes him a lot less attractive to a 692 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,320 Speaker 2: bunch of. 693 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:23,080 Speaker 3: Teams, significantly less like Nick Martinez, who I think is 694 00:26:24,080 --> 00:26:26,320 Speaker 3: a little bit lower than sev Reno. But also if you, 695 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 3: if you like put a gun to my head so 696 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:29,800 Speaker 3: Nick Martinez, like it would be there would be a 697 00:26:29,800 --> 00:26:31,360 Speaker 3: tight Yeah. I think you would have to actually really 698 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:33,840 Speaker 3: think about it. He took the offer and he's now 699 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 3: going to have the highest single season AAV in the 700 00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:39,720 Speaker 3: Cincinnatirat's history. Wow, that's on one year deals, like basically 701 00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:42,480 Speaker 3: number three starter, which is really funny. But if you 702 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:44,600 Speaker 3: decline that offer, you're like a lepard to the other teams. 703 00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:45,320 Speaker 1: Teams have to give up. 704 00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 3: I think they're depending on the team like their second 705 00:26:47,359 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 3: highest draft pick to sign you, and the Mets get 706 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:51,120 Speaker 3: the compensation pick back for them. I don't know who's 707 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,920 Speaker 3: giving Louis Aevrino a three year deal where they're willing 708 00:26:52,920 --> 00:26:54,200 Speaker 3: to give a pick to get a guy who's like 709 00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:56,280 Speaker 3: again like a three starter. So that could just wind 710 00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 3: up where severy no overplays his hand. It still just 711 00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:00,360 Speaker 3: comes back to the Mets on a cheap deal. Yeah, 712 00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:02,200 Speaker 3: which maybe he's fine with us. Maybe he's just willing 713 00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:03,960 Speaker 3: to take that shot, Like maybe he's willing to take 714 00:27:04,040 --> 00:27:05,560 Speaker 3: like a two for thirty five from the Mets worst 715 00:27:05,560 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 3: case scenario. Because it's still not that far away from 716 00:27:07,680 --> 00:27:09,320 Speaker 3: the one year av of the qualifying offer. He still 717 00:27:09,320 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 3: gets to stay in New York. It seems like he 718 00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:11,399 Speaker 3: does not want to leave New York. 719 00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:11,600 Speaker 1: Again. 720 00:27:11,600 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 3: I keep saying that, Yeah, but it is everything this 721 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,080 Speaker 3: time hears such this little cat and Moss game, back 722 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:19,840 Speaker 3: and forth, back and forth. It is interesting though that 723 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,479 Speaker 3: it didn't seem to be any movement on any extension 724 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:24,080 Speaker 3: talks to either Mania or Alonso though. 725 00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 1: No. 726 00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,000 Speaker 2: And I'll tell you what I think part of the reasons, 727 00:27:27,080 --> 00:27:28,720 Speaker 2: they're just really focused on one Soto. 728 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, and they should be. 729 00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,639 Speaker 3: I think also, weirdly, part of the focus on Wan 730 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:34,720 Speaker 3: so Tho is trickling down to some of the smaller 731 00:27:34,840 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 3: moves they've been making. We talked like a week and 732 00:27:36,800 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 3: a half ago by the Mets signing Dylan Kovee. I 733 00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 3: thought it was interesting that they signed him to a 734 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:41,200 Speaker 3: major league contract. 735 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:42,200 Speaker 1: On Monday. 736 00:27:42,240 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: They also signed my career minor league believer of Justin Hageman, 737 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:47,919 Speaker 3: also to a major league contract. Those are the kind 738 00:27:47,960 --> 00:27:49,760 Speaker 3: of moves you make early in the off season where 739 00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,720 Speaker 3: you see something interesting about these guys and you try 740 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 3: to jump the market by signing. These guys are likely 741 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:56,840 Speaker 3: expecting minor league offers, and you're giving the major league 742 00:27:56,880 --> 00:27:59,520 Speaker 3: golfers they guaranteed beat any minor league golfer, but you're 743 00:27:59,520 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 3: only giving them like a hair a smidge over the 744 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:03,040 Speaker 3: league minimum. I think Hagenman, you said before hes making 745 00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 3: what eight hundred and fifty thousand, Next year he eight. 746 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:06,520 Speaker 2: Eighty five or something. I think league made rooms are 747 00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 2: like right around five to six hundred thousand. 748 00:28:08,640 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: I think like now is like seven to sixty seven 749 00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,439 Speaker 3: eighty with the new CBX, I think it was went 750 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:14,480 Speaker 3: up a couple of years in a row with new stuff, 751 00:28:14,520 --> 00:28:16,719 Speaker 3: just like luxury tax. But I think that's a deal 752 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,120 Speaker 3: where it's like he probably got twenty minor league golfers 753 00:28:19,160 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 3: with invites the spring training, and like, here's a major 754 00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:22,439 Speaker 3: league golfer, just take one of these spots. So now 755 00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,280 Speaker 3: Hagenman and Dylan Kovee are in the Mets Major League bullpen. 756 00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:26,800 Speaker 3: I know Covid does not have an option. I don't 757 00:28:26,800 --> 00:28:29,600 Speaker 3: know about Hageman, but that I mean Hageman probably does 758 00:28:29,760 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: does because he hasn't been to the majors yet. That 759 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,880 Speaker 3: seems like the prelude, the precursor for a team who's 760 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 3: making moves to make sure that they can fill in 761 00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:38,920 Speaker 3: the back end of their roster when they get really 762 00:28:38,960 --> 00:28:41,280 Speaker 3: really really close to the to the to certain competitive 763 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 3: tax balanced thresholds. 764 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: To spending all the money that's physically yeah possible, spending 765 00:28:46,400 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: the money in bulk in the right places, and now 766 00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:50,080 Speaker 1: like okay, now we're filling in the cracks. 767 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 3: It seems to me just like some pre crack filling 768 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:55,240 Speaker 3: with guys for Yeah, that was kind of funny when 769 00:28:55,240 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 3: it came out. 770 00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 1: Of my mouth. 771 00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was under antig today, so still little loopy, 772 00:28:58,480 --> 00:28:59,959 Speaker 3: But that to me is just like, here's a guy 773 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 3: undred million dollars who we think can give us like 774 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 3: three million dollars. 775 00:29:02,680 --> 00:29:04,720 Speaker 1: In value, and you know, if he's not, then that's it. 776 00:29:04,800 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: He's gone. 777 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's it's really doesn't hurt because it's it's nothing 778 00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:11,760 Speaker 2: at that point. In terms of other rumors around baseball. 779 00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,840 Speaker 2: I know a lot of Mets fans, us included, are 780 00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:15,959 Speaker 2: interested to see what's going on with Corden Burns. There 781 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,520 Speaker 2: hasn't been a ton going on with him, but right 782 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 2: now Oriols and Dodgers are being linked to him the most, which. 783 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:21,280 Speaker 1: This is also funny. 784 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 3: Hold on, Hageman went to Penn State really and he 785 00:29:24,680 --> 00:29:26,640 Speaker 3: does have three minor league options, So he has three options, 786 00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 3: but Dylan Kovey has none. Okay, that's gonna be interesting though, 787 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,719 Speaker 3: So Covie's in on the Mets this year, so we'll 788 00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,640 Speaker 3: see what that happens. But yeah, State, Yeah, yeah, Penn State, 789 00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,800 Speaker 3: twenty eight year old career minor league got a major 790 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 3: league deal, all right, justin Hageman. But yeah, Cordon Burns, Orioles, 791 00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 3: Dodgers top suitters right now. I also know there was 792 00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:45,040 Speaker 3: some crochet rumors coming out. Different reports can out Bodeen 793 00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,320 Speaker 3: bowed in whatever you say, and other people are saying 794 00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 3: that the Red Sox and the Blue Jays and the 795 00:29:49,400 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 3: Twins or whatever. But then maybe sometimes the Mets are 796 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 3: interested or the everything's so conflicting with each other. 797 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880 Speaker 2: This is what happens during the offseason. I think if 798 00:29:57,920 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 2: you don't hear the Mets name connected to a player. 799 00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:01,320 Speaker 2: That's not necessarily a worry either. 800 00:30:01,920 --> 00:30:03,360 Speaker 3: No, I think it's almost almost kind of a bit 801 00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:04,840 Speaker 3: of a good thing. I think it's a really good chance. 802 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 3: The Mester also doing the due Dilo Johns on every 803 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:09,520 Speaker 3: single one of these guys, because every single good team should. 804 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 3: But I thought it was very interesting that was that 805 00:30:12,680 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 3: passon who. 806 00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:15,840 Speaker 1: Did oh Is Morosi? John Morossi. He said that the 807 00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:18,840 Speaker 1: Orioles and the Dodgers are the top suits for Corbyn Burns. 808 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:20,360 Speaker 1: I guess that's true. 809 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 3: I don't understand how they could be the only ones, though, 810 00:30:21,840 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 3: Like it seems to be like everyone would be willing 811 00:30:23,480 --> 00:30:24,480 Speaker 3: to offer him a contract. 812 00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, like if you think about the teams 813 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 2: in Major League Baseball, and I know I think they 814 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:31,280 Speaker 2: mentioned this on foul Territory the other day when I 815 00:30:31,320 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 2: was watching them talk about their for agent predictions, like 816 00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 2: Corbin Burns would be a great Cub, Like he'd be 817 00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:38,880 Speaker 2: great in that Batimarestic, he'd be an awesome Boston Red 818 00:30:38,960 --> 00:30:40,640 Speaker 2: Sox as well. I know that's something that you've brought up, 819 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,600 Speaker 2: Like he'd be great out in Boston, he'd be great 820 00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 2: in Baltimore. He'd be great in Toronto, he'd be great 821 00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:49,480 Speaker 2: in San Francisco. Like, there are so many teams where 822 00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: he makes sense. And I know maybe on this podcast 823 00:30:52,480 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 2: we've been a little bit less, uh, you know, forward 824 00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,840 Speaker 2: about how much money he truly deserves it, whether or 825 00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:01,880 Speaker 2: not he is a real thirty five million dollar pitcher 826 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,200 Speaker 2: or not going forward. But I think for a lot 827 00:31:04,240 --> 00:31:06,320 Speaker 2: of these teams he is still he's still an ace, 828 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,120 Speaker 2: Like there's no doubt he's still a frontline starter. Our 829 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: debate had always just been is he Garrett Cole money? 830 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,600 Speaker 2: And he might not be there maybe, but he's still 831 00:31:14,120 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 2: really really good. So like the only teams that are 832 00:31:17,000 --> 00:31:19,320 Speaker 2: interested being the Dodgers and Orioles. That also doesn't feel 833 00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: right now. 834 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,480 Speaker 3: The thing that the only detraction we have about Corbyn 835 00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:24,360 Speaker 3: Burns is something that would be like the greatest compliment 836 00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:25,920 Speaker 3: paid to any other pitch in the league. I just 837 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:27,520 Speaker 3: don't think he's one of the five best drunning pitches 838 00:31:27,520 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 3: in baseball. He's still Yeah, he says around like between 839 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:32,560 Speaker 3: eight and twelve, like very comfortably, Like he makes it. 840 00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 3: He has five pitches he can use in any count, 841 00:31:34,560 --> 00:31:37,400 Speaker 3: any moment, any any situation, any time, any day, any 842 00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:38,320 Speaker 3: any any second. 843 00:31:38,440 --> 00:31:39,840 Speaker 2: A lot of this has to deal with the fact that, 844 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 2: like he's gonna get eight nine year contract, Like if 845 00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 2: we're having these questions right now, I'm sure like when 846 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 2: he's thirty six, it's not gonna be He's not still 847 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:47,560 Speaker 2: not gonna be an ace. 848 00:31:47,680 --> 00:31:49,920 Speaker 1: Like that's part of it too, I think, yeah, totally. 849 00:31:49,960 --> 00:31:52,640 Speaker 3: I also think that it is interesting that the Dodgers 850 00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 3: are connected to him, because I think the Dodgers are 851 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 3: the sleeping giant with Wan so Tho that for some. 852 00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,240 Speaker 1: Reason I can't shake being a tiny bit scare though 853 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: I can tell. 854 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,920 Speaker 2: You why, because they do it every off season, every 855 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,400 Speaker 2: off season for the last five they've been like you you, you, 856 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,800 Speaker 2: you you, and we're amazing again, Like they say, Kayoscar 857 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 2: Hernandez a couple of days after Orotani last You're like, how. 858 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:14,560 Speaker 1: Did you do that? You just spent seven hundred million again. 859 00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 3: We talked about this in our first off season episode, 860 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 3: where that's the mark of a good franchise where they 861 00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,280 Speaker 3: don't let generational players get away from them because they 862 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 3: know how rare that they become available. Like they were like, 863 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:26,920 Speaker 3: we'll trade whatever from Mooki best sim tomorrow Showhotani literally 864 00:32:27,040 --> 00:32:29,280 Speaker 3: designed the contract yourself. Anything you want, like Freddy Freeman, 865 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 3: you want a five year deal thirty four? 866 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,880 Speaker 1: Sure, why not? You are Freddy Freeman, Like you're. 867 00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:35,200 Speaker 3: One of the best players of this generation, like Yoshinobiyamo 868 00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:36,800 Speaker 3: have never thrown a pitch of Major League Baseball. We're 869 00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:38,760 Speaker 3: gonna put three hundred fifty million dollars in your lap. 870 00:32:38,840 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 3: And if you look at the Dodgers right now for 871 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 3: next year's team, they're at like two hundred and twenty 872 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 3: eight million, which is like seventy shockingly a lot of 873 00:32:47,160 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 3: money that they could spend shocking a lot. 874 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,840 Speaker 1: But also this team right now, they're starting rotation for 875 00:32:51,880 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: next year. Yamo. 876 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 3: The sure Otani's not gonna pitch some midseason glass now, 877 00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,320 Speaker 3: we have no idea. So after Yammo, though their only 878 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 3: starters are health, they're gonna be healthy in opening day, 879 00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:02,680 Speaker 3: are Consolin, Bobby Miller, Dustin May and then like the 880 00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 3: guys who ended this year, Landon Nak and Casparius like 881 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,800 Speaker 3: they're they really do need to fill it in like that, 882 00:33:08,000 --> 00:33:09,640 Speaker 3: That to me was why, like I feel a little 883 00:33:09,640 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 3: bit of solace with them. With the Corbyn Burns rumors, 884 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 3: I'm like, please go after Corbin Burns. Yes, just take 885 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,360 Speaker 3: Corden Burns off the board. Spend your forty million on 886 00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:19,000 Speaker 3: Corbyn Burns. So leave leave so though for the East Coast, 887 00:33:19,040 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 3: leave them for the Mets and Yankees a fire over 888 00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 3: the figure out the rest later, because you guys just 889 00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:24,120 Speaker 3: need pitching, like you guys need a lot more pitching. 890 00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:26,360 Speaker 1: Don't worry about the fact that James Outenman Andy Payes 891 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:27,400 Speaker 1: right now are like going to be in your Major 892 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 1: League OTFE. Don't worry about that, not the big deal. 893 00:33:29,200 --> 00:33:31,240 Speaker 1: You don't have to shortstop who cares, don't worry about that, 894 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 1: just don't. Don't even look at one. So though, yeah, 895 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:33,800 Speaker 1: make you row. 896 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: They are similar, but again it's similar to the Mets 897 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:37,680 Speaker 3: where like their rosters, I mean not so much the 898 00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:39,680 Speaker 3: Mets because their roster is sick as fuck, but it's 899 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:43,960 Speaker 3: it's largely incomplete, and they they have so much less 900 00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,320 Speaker 3: money to work with in the Mets, I don't know 901 00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,680 Speaker 3: how willing they'd be even together Burns or anything like them. 902 00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:48,800 Speaker 1: To me, I don't know. 903 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 3: They seem to be much more willing to like the 904 00:33:50,840 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: shop in the bargain bin of pitchers and get like 905 00:33:52,520 --> 00:33:54,040 Speaker 3: three guys add more debt. But they are also so 906 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 3: many guys in my leagues. Maybe they're actually they're not 907 00:33:55,680 --> 00:33:56,040 Speaker 3: gonna do that. 908 00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:59,640 Speaker 2: And also maybe they don't care either. Maybe it's just 909 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:01,600 Speaker 2: like one doesn't seem to care. They might just be like, 910 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:03,120 Speaker 2: we just won the World Series. We just made a 911 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,840 Speaker 2: fuck ton of money from that. Let's let's do it, 912 00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 2: do it again. And also, by the way, we have 913 00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: the most popular baseball player ever in the world. 914 00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: We print money. It's it's impossible for us to lose. 915 00:34:14,880 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: You had to, Oh, am, I gonna phrase this? How 916 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:19,960 Speaker 1: you can phrase it? What are you asking me here? 917 00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:21,680 Speaker 3: So you have a pie chart right now, and the 918 00:34:21,719 --> 00:34:24,520 Speaker 3: pie charts to have one hundred? What percentage do you 919 00:34:24,600 --> 00:34:27,520 Speaker 3: give any team to sign one? So though any team, 920 00:34:28,080 --> 00:34:30,320 Speaker 3: I'm saying like one, So though one, so likelihood of 921 00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:31,920 Speaker 3: signing is the chart that's the equal one hundred. 922 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:35,160 Speaker 1: How many teams have? How many slices? Did TikTok about this? 923 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:35,560 Speaker 5: Yeah? 924 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: I think there's probably nine teams that can realistically sign him, 925 00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 2: mm hmm. And I think the Mets are by far 926 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 2: the biggest. I think the Mets are like I put 927 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:50,440 Speaker 2: the Mets at forty percent of that, I put the 928 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:54,560 Speaker 2: Yankees at thirty five and that leaves it twenty five 929 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 2: percent for like the Dodgers, the Blue Jays, the Red Sox, the. 930 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 3: Might big questions readings to give those other teams actually 931 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:03,600 Speaker 3: in this race, because I think the Red Sox are speaking, 932 00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 3: but I think have the sack. 933 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: Honestly, I think all of them are less than are 934 00:35:07,400 --> 00:35:10,000 Speaker 1: five percent or less. It's just Mets Yankees. I think 935 00:35:10,040 --> 00:35:11,000 Speaker 1: it's just Mets Yankees. 936 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 2: Truthfully, I think all that this is doing is, if anything, 937 00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:17,239 Speaker 2: it's just making Wan Soto more money. That's it, which 938 00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,480 Speaker 2: is probably true anyway, he deserves it, Like there's there. 939 00:35:19,560 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 2: I don't think there is a world where the Giants 940 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 2: are the top bidder. But I think that's a team 941 00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:27,360 Speaker 2: that is going to offer a lot of money, like 942 00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,920 Speaker 2: what is in a large contract. I just don't think 943 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:31,480 Speaker 2: it's gonna be more than what the Mets Yankees are 944 00:35:31,480 --> 00:35:33,439 Speaker 2: gonna offer. I think the Blue Jays are gonna offer 945 00:35:33,520 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 2: a ton of money to Wan Sodo, it's not gonna 946 00:35:36,040 --> 00:35:37,840 Speaker 2: be more like they're just not gonna be able to 947 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 2: beat the Mets or the Yankees. And I think, truthfully, 948 00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:42,160 Speaker 2: if it does come down to a bidding war. It 949 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:44,239 Speaker 2: is Mets, Yankees, and Dodgers. I think the Dodgers would 950 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,480 Speaker 2: have no problem spending fifty million dollars on Wan Soto 951 00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 2: if they want to operate at an insanely high cost 952 00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:52,359 Speaker 2: for the next ten years, which they might. 953 00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:54,239 Speaker 1: Who knows, yeah they might, they might not care, but 954 00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:55,640 Speaker 1: also again, they can. They can do it. 955 00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,160 Speaker 3: I just want to like say that to care everybody 956 00:35:57,600 --> 00:35:59,560 Speaker 3: real sick. They can do it, and then just take 957 00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:01,520 Speaker 3: to live of shortcuts with the rest of their roster. Yes, 958 00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,600 Speaker 3: and they'll have like the top of the super team. 959 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:05,319 Speaker 3: Then just hope all the minor leaguers start to take 960 00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 3: some steps. 961 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 2: They'd be the Miami Heat where it was like Lebron, 962 00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,480 Speaker 2: Dwayne Word, Chris Bosh and then you look at center 963 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:13,000 Speaker 2: and you're like, oh, Jamal mcglaur and Juwan Howard are 964 00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 2: getting minutes on this team. Those guys are forty like 965 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 2: Birdman and Norris Cole. Their point guard was a second 966 00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:21,239 Speaker 2: round pick as a rookie. It was a starter, Like 967 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 2: Norris call is putting up. 968 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 3: I think it's like thirty and ten port the record 969 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 3: right now, dude, I saw a video about that. Yeah, 970 00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 3: that was I was like Damn Norris cole Hell and Macklemore. 971 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 2: I think is in China or Turkey or something like that. 972 00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:32,840 Speaker 2: Putting up like twenty four points a game. I was like, 973 00:36:32,920 --> 00:36:34,399 Speaker 2: I love I love seeing that. I got to steal 974 00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 2: that for baseball. 975 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:37,879 Speaker 1: Something like that. Do we have any more little rumors runs? 976 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: I think that we got We got through the whole list. Yeah, 977 00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:40,719 Speaker 1: we got through the whole list. 978 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,040 Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of if there's anything else Mets 979 00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,560 Speaker 2: related that I really wanted to talk about. I think 980 00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 2: not one cool thing I saw in baseball though that 981 00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: just briefly, I want to bring up the oils. 982 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:52,080 Speaker 1: Are moving in left field. You saw that? 983 00:36:52,480 --> 00:36:55,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's funny, which is funny because everybody in baseball, 984 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 2: including I'm sure all the Orioles hitters, are like, oh 985 00:36:57,960 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 2: my god, thank god. 986 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:00,840 Speaker 1: I know there was a tree man Mancastle dropped to 987 00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:03,799 Speaker 1: his knees. Yeah, which that kills by Ryan Malcastle trade 988 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,440 Speaker 1: talks kills him. Yeah, I is in. That's for the 989 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,520 Speaker 1: righty's that are going to be on this team. It's 990 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: for that is specifically for Kobe Meyo. Uh. 991 00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:13,440 Speaker 2: Also, when you hear this Rookie of the year's announced, 992 00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 2: Paul Skeins won the National League, Louis Hill in the 993 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 2: American League. The American League was actually way closer than 994 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,279 Speaker 2: I thought it was gonna be. I thought he was 995 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,040 Speaker 2: going to win it easier than he did. A lot 996 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,800 Speaker 2: of Colton Cowser's uh first place votes, which was warranted. 997 00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:26,759 Speaker 2: I think you'd say it was more of a coin flip. 998 00:37:26,840 --> 00:37:28,319 Speaker 2: But I felt like the betting odds were very much 999 00:37:28,360 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 2: in Louis Heell's favor across the books. 1000 00:37:31,239 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 3: I think they had the shape of heels year made 1001 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,239 Speaker 3: that an opportunity for cows because Casler played pretty well 1002 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:36,920 Speaker 3: at the end, actually had really cold second half two 1003 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 3: But the fact that he was like the best betcher 1004 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:39,759 Speaker 3: in baseball for two months and then was just like, 1005 00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:40,680 Speaker 3: I don't know. 1006 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 1: I give Louis he a lot of credit. Louise. 1007 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:44,400 Speaker 3: He only threw thirty combined innings between twenty twenty one 1008 00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 3: twenty twenty four. After after you got Tommy John surgery, 1009 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,239 Speaker 3: when Garrekole went down, people were shitting themselves of the 1010 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,360 Speaker 3: Anchors rotation, and he was their ace for like the 1011 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,240 Speaker 3: first style two months of the year. When the Yankees 1012 00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:54,200 Speaker 3: are the best team in baseball. 1013 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:55,359 Speaker 1: He was dog this year. 1014 00:37:55,360 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 3: The fact that he got through that got two hundred 1015 00:37:56,760 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 3: fifty en exactly everything he's been through like that, that 1016 00:37:58,640 --> 00:37:59,239 Speaker 3: that's a second move. 1017 00:37:59,239 --> 00:37:59,880 Speaker 1: I'm happy for him. 1018 00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:02,560 Speaker 3: And also if you think that Jackson Merrile should have 1019 00:38:02,560 --> 00:38:04,120 Speaker 3: been the work of the year for Paul Skans, I'm 1020 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:05,719 Speaker 3: I'm sorry to admit your mouth breather. 1021 00:38:05,880 --> 00:38:07,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, No, that's a that's a tough take to have. 1022 00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:11,920 Speaker 2: It's like what Skins is, what like the third best 1023 00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,320 Speaker 2: pitcher in Major League Baseball probably going. 1024 00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:14,839 Speaker 1: Into next year. 1025 00:38:15,760 --> 00:38:17,439 Speaker 3: It's if he's not, I mean, I would say second, 1026 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:21,879 Speaker 3: it's probably what terror schoolball is one school Wheelers Kens, Yeah, 1027 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,279 Speaker 3: and that and you could put those guys inn you order. 1028 00:38:24,280 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 3: I wouldn't really fight you. 1029 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,439 Speaker 1: No, I honestly, Paul skin is probably gonna be number 1030 00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:28,720 Speaker 1: one on my list to get some comments. 1031 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:32,320 Speaker 3: But the white fans early fantasy baseball drafts are trending 1032 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:34,640 Speaker 3: right now. It's it's Skans and school ball hard over 1033 00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 3: the rest and then a tear break and then Wheeler 1034 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:36,960 Speaker 3: to Grom Yeah. 1035 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean Wheeler we also know is just massively disrespected 1036 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,359 Speaker 2: in baseball always every single year, always is He's another 1037 00:38:42,440 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 2: year He's not gonna win This young where you could 1038 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,080 Speaker 2: you could have squinted it and give it to him. 1039 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 5: Uh. 1040 00:38:45,880 --> 00:38:49,000 Speaker 1: Lastly, did you see more Fientos? Yeah, Swaggy at the 1041 00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,759 Speaker 1: Nicks game. Yeah, he was swagging at Swaggy V at 1042 00:38:51,760 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: the Knicks game. And he dyed his hair blonde. He 1043 00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,240 Speaker 1: went I bleach for a few weeks. It's awesome. 1044 00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,160 Speaker 3: It's kind of cool that we have this like burging 1045 00:38:59,239 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 3: superstar like act in our lives. Now we have the 1046 00:39:00,920 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 3: Mets haven't had a like a breakout like this. I 1047 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 3: feel like since kind of Pete. Yeah, and it was 1048 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,040 Speaker 3: a little differ because he's not like super chill and cool, 1049 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:09,000 Speaker 3: goofy like there there was a there was a tweet 1050 00:39:09,000 --> 00:39:11,520 Speaker 3: going around Yankee tweather to on Monday that was like, 1051 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,000 Speaker 3: you think Anthony Volpi can ever have a Mark Fiento's 1052 00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:14,880 Speaker 3: type breakout season? 1053 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:17,280 Speaker 1: And I was just like, let's fucking go. That's so awesome. 1054 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,759 Speaker 2: Oh did I ever say this on the podcast, But 1055 00:39:20,080 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 2: just just talking more about wan Sota because I love 1056 00:39:22,120 --> 00:39:23,160 Speaker 2: him and I want him to be a Mets so 1057 00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:27,040 Speaker 2: badly and when he does, gonna be intolerable. Mark Vento's 1058 00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:31,919 Speaker 2: turns twenty five in under three weeks. December eleventh. Wan 1059 00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:36,160 Speaker 2: Soda he turned twenty five. Mark Viento's in like three weeks. 1060 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:40,240 Speaker 2: Wan Soto turned twenty six October. They're separated by about 1061 00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:43,880 Speaker 2: a year, and people, how crazy is that? That's how 1062 00:39:44,280 --> 00:39:44,879 Speaker 2: that's how sick. 1063 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:45,680 Speaker 1: Wan Soto is. 1064 00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,680 Speaker 2: Mark Vientos is considered this amazing breakout young player that 1065 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,640 Speaker 2: the Mets just had. Wan Soda is like, yeah, I'm 1066 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,839 Speaker 2: a free agent and I have two hundred home runs 1067 00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:54,320 Speaker 2: in my career. 1068 00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:56,359 Speaker 1: This keeps being I keep saying over again. 1069 00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:57,919 Speaker 3: The crazy thing about so though, like the a Rod 1070 00:39:58,000 --> 00:40:00,239 Speaker 3: is the only other free agent this age ever, Like 1071 00:40:00,320 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: that's actually a good free agent because guys just don't 1072 00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:03,719 Speaker 3: come up when they're eighteen, and usually if they do, 1073 00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:07,000 Speaker 3: their team signed like to ten year deals like Jackson Schorio. Yeah, 1074 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 3: like this this is an incredibly rare thing and it 1075 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:11,439 Speaker 3: has to be taken incredibly seriously for that reason. 1076 00:40:11,520 --> 00:40:13,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean Harper, I guess is also the other 1077 00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,640 Speaker 2: guy too that was close to it, right, because Harper 1078 00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: became a free agent at I think. 1079 00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:18,440 Speaker 1: Him and Micheller were both your twenty seven or twenty eight. 1080 00:40:18,640 --> 00:40:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah no, no, Harper was twenty six. That was his 1081 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 2: twenty six year old season he became a free agent. 1082 00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 3: So yeah, okay, but this was so this was twenty 1083 00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:26,839 Speaker 3: five year old season. Now he's twenty six. Next years 1084 00:40:26,880 --> 00:40:27,600 Speaker 3: twenty six year old. 1085 00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,239 Speaker 1: Season twenty nineteen was Bryce Harper's twenty six year old 1086 00:40:30,280 --> 00:40:30,680 Speaker 1: season two. 1087 00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:34,040 Speaker 3: Oh wow, Oh that's what I'm saying. This was hart 1088 00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 3: this that that's what I'm telling you. Oh yeah, that 1089 00:40:36,239 --> 00:40:37,880 Speaker 3: was his first year. It's one year different. 1090 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:38,920 Speaker 1: No, it's the same. 1091 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,320 Speaker 2: Sure, yes, because I'm looking at it on Baseball Reference 1092 00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,839 Speaker 2: in Harper twenty nineteen, Phillies, that's the first year. 1093 00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:48,120 Speaker 1: Baseball Reverence is age twenty six. Okay, yeah, sure, so's sick, 1094 00:40:48,360 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: but it's it's crazy. Wan Soto's just he's a freak. 1095 00:40:52,320 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: He's so good. 1096 00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, just anything you can of signed. Also, guys, to 1097 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 3: get us some more reviews. We're gonna keep starting review 1098 00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 3: at the end of episode it was it was a 1099 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,400 Speaker 3: fun month. We're gonna keep doing those short like YouTube 1100 00:41:00,400 --> 00:41:02,239 Speaker 3: stuff episodes, but I want to do one a little 1101 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 3: more podcasting sands reviews will read them in. I haven't 1102 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,239 Speaker 3: really seen a new one. Actually, I think there's one 1103 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:06,600 Speaker 3: new one. 1104 00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:09,319 Speaker 2: Let me say, yeah, take a look. Yeah, we've we've 1105 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:11,279 Speaker 2: really been hammering the YouTube. It's the best way for 1106 00:41:11,400 --> 00:41:12,920 Speaker 2: us to gain new viewers. Like there's kind of no 1107 00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,840 Speaker 2: discoverability when it comes to podcast audio wise, besides making 1108 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 2: better videos and social media clips, but YouTube YouTube has 1109 00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,719 Speaker 2: really been where we've been crushed it. 1110 00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,239 Speaker 1: So we appreciate all of you, especially on the YouTube side. 1111 00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: We have two long reviews, but they both have questions, 1112 00:41:26,600 --> 00:41:28,200 Speaker 1: so maybe we'll save them for like later in the week. 1113 00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,359 Speaker 1: We'll do like a mailbag episode or something, either later 1114 00:41:30,440 --> 00:41:32,520 Speaker 1: this week or next Sure. Yeah, I don't think there's 1115 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:34,239 Speaker 1: I don't think there's anything else to talk about. We've 1116 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:37,200 Speaker 1: think we're good, kind of rambled. I think maybe later 1117 00:41:37,320 --> 00:41:39,560 Speaker 1: this week we might do bargain pictures. 1118 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:42,240 Speaker 3: Is that something we Yeah, probably list of bargain pictures 1119 00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:44,040 Speaker 3: and then we'll do a mailbag soon. And we're trying 1120 00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:45,399 Speaker 3: to get some cool interviews, so we'll keep you guys 1121 00:41:45,400 --> 00:41:46,120 Speaker 3: post on that as well. 1122 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:47,799 Speaker 1: But that's it for us. Guys, Thank you so much 1123 00:41:47,800 --> 00:41:48,800 Speaker 1: for listening or watching. 1124 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,000 Speaker 2: Remember to follow us on our social media at mets 1125 00:41:51,120 --> 00:41:53,799 Speaker 2: up on Twitter, Instagram, and TikTok. 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