Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we've got a Super Bowl
Speaker 1: winning head coach with us to start the show. I'm
Speaker 1: Greg Rosenthal with my friend Jordan rod Rieg and yes,
Speaker 1: Sean McVay opening the show for us.
Speaker 2: Joining us.
Speaker 3: Now, that's a bad opener, man. We got to get
Speaker 3: a better guest.
Speaker 2: No, no, we want to start big.
Speaker 1: And you know we got you finally because we you know,
Speaker 1: we we hired year old beat right at Jordan, That's what.
Speaker 3: It says, Craig.
Speaker 4: If it was coming from you, I say no, Jordan
Speaker 4: will say yes, No, I'm just kidding.
Speaker 1: That's why we did it. A lot of money, a
Speaker 1: lot of work, just for this moment.
Speaker 3: Want want wah.
Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford said, you know, just yesterday, so it's fresh
Speaker 1: in my mind that the practices have been the highest
Speaker 1: level of football that that he's you know, been a
Speaker 1: part of.
Speaker 2: Uh out here. Do you agree with that?
Speaker 3: Here's Yeah.
Speaker 4: What I think is is we've had good quality football
Speaker 4: through the first two blocks, you know, And and that
Speaker 4: is true. I mean, all you can do always say, hey,
Speaker 4: where are we at right now? How do we continue
Speaker 4: to stack those days? But I think what he understands
Speaker 4: and what he's referring to is just the quality of
Speaker 4: football on both sides, Like, Hey, if you're going to
Speaker 4: get something, let's earn it. Let's have Hey, it's tight
Speaker 4: window throws and catches, it's banging off natural rushes, it's
Speaker 4: being able to handle pressure movements, whatever that is. But
Speaker 4: we know what it looks like as a team. When
Speaker 4: there's high quality reps, somebody's going to inevitably have to
Speaker 4: have success on that down. But if we're earning everything,
Speaker 4: we're going to feel good about that. And that's what
Speaker 4: the other day's practice that I think he was probably
Speaker 4: referring to was reflective of Greg And that's what we
Speaker 4: want to continue to do, is really challenge each other
Speaker 4: and sharpen each other. And we're in the midst of
Speaker 4: doing that, but man, do we have a long way
Speaker 4: to go.
Speaker 5: Well, you guys always put in so much offense. I mean,
Speaker 5: that's one of the characteristics I noticed over over years,
Speaker 5: is that there's so much that gets put in and
Speaker 5: then you guys call back to it at times over
Speaker 5: the course of the season. But I'm a little selfish
Speaker 5: and I really want to ask you about one thing
Speaker 5: that you didn't get a chance to install last season
Speaker 5: and that's all the thirteen personnel.
Speaker 6: Thanks you guys were running. Can we saw step five? Right?
Speaker 5: We saw what happened on the field. We saw the
Speaker 5: progression manifest in real time, you know, for the first time. Sure,
Speaker 5: when you guys were playing games, But what was step one?
Speaker 5: I mean in season, what was the pivot? What were
Speaker 5: those conversations and where.
Speaker 2: Did you start?
Speaker 4: They say desperation is the mother of invention, or you
Speaker 4: know it was by necessity. I mean, really the origin
Speaker 4: of it was after we lost that Thursday night game
Speaker 4: against the forty nine ers. We were not very good
Speaker 4: in short yardage situations, and so you're really saying, what
Speaker 4: are some ways that we can close edges? We've got
Speaker 4: capable tight ends, and so really the origin was going
Speaker 4: into the Baltimore game some of the different things that
Speaker 4: they had presented in tight red zone, short yardage or
Speaker 4: four minute if you're trying to close out the game,
Speaker 4: let's get into some personnel groupings that allow us to
Speaker 4: have just longer edges to be more efficient and short yardage. Well,
Speaker 4: then you flash forward to that fast, you know, fast
Speaker 4: forward to that game. Puka goes down in the game,
Speaker 4: we had some success with a couple of those plays.
Speaker 4: Kyen william walked in on a touchdown, We had a
Speaker 4: couple runs to kind of close out the game. And
Speaker 4: then you're saying, all right, well, Pooka gets hurt, We've
Speaker 4: got our defense did a great job of using all
Speaker 4: the guys that had a jersey of our forty eight
Speaker 4: on game day, and so you're saying, we got these
Speaker 4: capable tight ends. We were able to run thirty plus
Speaker 4: snaps in Jacksonville where you know they weren't really preparing
Speaker 4: for it, so we thought we could kind of catch
Speaker 4: them off guard while also taking advantage of all the
Speaker 4: guys that we do have with Higbee, with Davis Allen,
Speaker 4: with Kobe Parkinson, with Terrence Ferguson had success, and then
Speaker 4: it coincided with us having a buy in between that,
Speaker 4: so now you get some time to be able to say, Okay,
Speaker 4: what can we do from this? How can we build
Speaker 4: on it? And then the guys did an amazing job
Speaker 4: of being able to adjust midstream Jordan, and we can't
Speaker 4: do that without tight ends. Like that's the thing everybody
Speaker 4: wants to talk about thirteen. It's the people you know, like,
Speaker 4: and I've heard Matthew say this before is it's you
Speaker 4: can only do this because of those four players that
Speaker 4: I mentioned. If you don't have interchangeable tight ends that
Speaker 4: can be functional in both the run in the past
Speaker 4: and be able to protect, can have some guys that
Speaker 4: can be move players but can give you the you know,
Speaker 4: the illusion of complexity, then it doesn't work. And so
Speaker 4: it's only because of those guys. No different than the
Speaker 4: you know, the first iteration of eleven personnels because of
Speaker 4: Cooper Cup and Robert Woods and Cooks or Sammy Watkins.
Speaker 6: Well, that's kind of my.
Speaker 5: Theory all last season was you know, watching your camp,
Speaker 5: you guys ask it doesn't matter if you're the fifth
Speaker 5: string tight end. You're installing all of that eleven and
Speaker 5: you have to know it if you're a part of
Speaker 5: the team and concepts to get that. I felt like
Speaker 5: maybe that made the teaching progression of that, I don't
Speaker 5: want to say easier because it's not when you're in
Speaker 5: the season, but the language may be translated a little
Speaker 5: bit more because eleven and thirteen you're putting bigger bodies
Speaker 5: out on the field, but you're asking these guys to
Speaker 5: run those past concepts.
Speaker 3: One hundred percent.
Speaker 4: And that's the thing is is you know we're going
Speaker 4: to I think it is good to be able to
Speaker 4: be a little bit more multiple and have some different things.
Speaker 4: We had to sort through a lot of issues just
Speaker 4: by living an eleven personnel and so then you're getting
Speaker 4: used to attacking base defensive structures, whether you're talking about
Speaker 4: the three down the four down principles, what are some
Speaker 4: of the what's the uptick and all this shell and
Speaker 4: how that kind of fits in and what you want
Speaker 4: to be. But what we want to do is take
Speaker 4: advantage of all the players that we do have, and
Speaker 4: really that did change the teaching progression really on both
Speaker 4: sides of the football, where we're teaching concepts and its
Speaker 4: spots on the field. So then we can seamlessly plug
Speaker 4: and play guys in and then we have to be
Speaker 4: cognizant of our right what is the personnel that we're
Speaker 4: going against, whether that's defense versus offense or offense versus defense.
Speaker 1: Was just like a small part of you also in
Speaker 1: the way back of your mind thinking like, oh, this
Speaker 1: is really getting Jordan excited.
Speaker 2: That was also talking about great and when someone.
Speaker 5: Talks about the rams, they don't get enough attention.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like, when you put that out there
Speaker 1: and for our listeners and now now my son listens
Speaker 1: to the podcast, I always want to explain things the
Speaker 1: thirteen personnel, you know, of course with three tight ends
Speaker 1: on the field, and now you you draft another tight
Speaker 1: end this year and it was part of like a
Speaker 1: run of tight ends that's all happening. And I know
Speaker 1: you're a student of football history and you're saying, you know,
Speaker 1: desperation was the mother that's happened so many different times
Speaker 1: in football history where different transitions happen because of a
Speaker 1: desperate moment. And then other teams, are you like aware
Speaker 1: of what's going on around the league at this point
Speaker 1: in terms of them getting more multiple with their tight
Speaker 1: ends and thinking about the ways that you need to
Speaker 1: stay ahead of them and continue to evolve what you're.
Speaker 3: Doing hundred percent.
Speaker 4: I mean, this league is so humbling, you know, and
Speaker 4: I think you know when you have the tape out,
Speaker 4: their coaches and players are too good in this league,
Speaker 4: and so you have to be able to adapt to
Speaker 4: just and then ultimately act. But we're trying to solve problems. Fortunately,
Speaker 4: I do think there's been a lot of humbling learning
Speaker 4: experiences where you're not naive to think the stuff that
Speaker 4: you did last year is going to have the same
Speaker 4: amount of success. But what are those new iterations kind
Speaker 4: of where do you project at defenses are going to
Speaker 4: try to go to try to counter it? And you know,
Speaker 4: and we think about all those things, but I think
Speaker 4: you're you're really saying, you're still playing eleven on eleven
Speaker 4: and how can we you know, get the pen in
Speaker 4: our hand, whether you're talking from a defense or an
Speaker 4: offensive lens.
Speaker 6: Where do you think defenses are going to go with it?
Speaker 3: I'll tell you after the season.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have no idea. Well, we'll figure it out.
Speaker 4: But I think what we want to make sure that
Speaker 4: we do is we give our I think what we
Speaker 4: want to make sure is, though, is that we're developed,
Speaker 4: developing our players to be independent thinkers and problem solvers.
Speaker 8: You know.
Speaker 4: I think the most important thing is is with our
Speaker 4: teaching progression. There's a play, do they understand the intent,
Speaker 4: what are the mechanics within their individual uh, you know,
Speaker 4: situation or individual position? And then what are the problems
Speaker 4: that they might need to solve that can present themselves
Speaker 4: that might be protection.
Speaker 3: Oriented might be run oriented.
Speaker 4: What are the tools that we can activate or what's
Speaker 4: the other play if we're calling two plays in the
Speaker 4: huddle and we want to be able to do those
Speaker 4: things both offensively and defensively.
Speaker 2: Yeah, just spitball in here.
Speaker 1: You're the only team maybe with like five real high
Speaker 1: quality titands. What about a five personnel pentagon at the
Speaker 1: same time, so you already got a name.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 4: I was a tight end coach in Washington. I was
Speaker 4: calling for Pentagon personnel and we never got it.
Speaker 5: But you got to really dust off the stone tablets.
Speaker 1: I'm just saying, like one play just to get all
Speaker 1: the film dork's really excited, like you would be leading
Speaker 1: lots of podcasts.
Speaker 3: Five coming to a theater.
Speaker 5: He said it, Hey everyone listening, No, you run it.
Speaker 5: You got to run it out here one time with
Speaker 5: all the people like streaming and.
Speaker 3: Every people that are taking the videos.
Speaker 5: And then break the internet and then all the coaches
Speaker 5: around the league start panicking about this and what.
Speaker 2: Do we want do we do think?
Speaker 3: I don't think it will cause any panic.
Speaker 5: You know, well you we saw you know, Terence Ferguson
Speaker 5: really trying to take a step forward, and you know,
Speaker 5: when I've been out here, it's been cool to watch
Speaker 5: him be so activated across not just the passing service,
Speaker 5: but the run game too, in some of those like
Speaker 5: sifts and those motions that you guys like to run too,
Speaker 5: and really kind of taking ownership of it.
Speaker 6: It seems like, I know, it's early days.
Speaker 3: He's so impressed. Well, here's the thing.
Speaker 4: You know, everybody just wants to look at the stats,
Speaker 4: but what he was able to do last year, Jordan
Speaker 4: was so instrumental in our success. I mean, he's moving around,
Speaker 4: he has to know all of the eligible spots. He
Speaker 4: knows our x R Z, R Y and r F
Speaker 4: and he knows it and all of our personnel groupings
Speaker 4: because he might be asked to play all of those positions,
Speaker 4: and really our tight end group as a whole. Scooter
Speaker 4: Huff does an amazing job of teaching them, but he
Speaker 4: enabled us to operate in a manner that was really
Speaker 4: unique because of all the versatility that he could provide.
Speaker 4: And that's not exclusively reflected in the stats. You know,
Speaker 4: he's got eleven catches, but he's got a lot more
Speaker 4: to offer. He did a lot last year, even in
Speaker 4: the midst of building for us, and so.
Speaker 3: We're excited about his growth.
Speaker 4: But I think the way that all of our guys
Speaker 4: attack it, I expect us to get better.
Speaker 3: You never stay the same.
Speaker 4: There's a there's a humility, and there's a love for
Speaker 4: this game, and there's a master and it matters to
Speaker 4: these guys in a way that they've approached it. You know,
Speaker 4: I feel really fortunate to be a part of this thing,
Speaker 4: and we got to be able to handle adversity when
Speaker 4: it does come our way. But guys like Terrence Ferguson
Speaker 4: are going to be a big part of what we
Speaker 4: do and and he does give us the ability to
Speaker 4: do a lot of different things because of his unique
Speaker 4: skill set.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm a big Ferguson guy. Yeah, and I it
Speaker 1: just just kind of like looking at him. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: he's a stocking, a guy that big that moves like
Speaker 1: that not work out, that's right. I think Kyle Brady
Speaker 1: is maybe the other tight end that I thought was
Speaker 1: the most physically impressive NFL player, But like.
Speaker 3: Though, yeah, but he is he is good. Greg.
Speaker 4: He can do a lot of different things and he
Speaker 4: can be in line, he can be you know, in
Speaker 4: the slot, outside and he's got great lower half flexibility
Speaker 4: to be able to do a lot of different things
Speaker 4: that we would ask.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one thing you mentioned that stood out to
Speaker 5: you when you were watching his college tape was the
Speaker 5: fluidity that he moves with, almost like he's you know,
Speaker 5: kind of artistically sort of swimming out there.
Speaker 4: No, and I mean it's honestly, there's some similar mannerisms.
Speaker 4: And don't let me lose you to Kelsey in terms
Speaker 4: of you know, feed are always close to the grounds.
Speaker 4: He's kind of just able to skate. He's got good
Speaker 4: natural disability to work edges on people. One of the
Speaker 4: things that I liked the most about him that really
Speaker 4: wasn't on display last year. He obviously did a great
Speaker 4: job tracking some big balls down the field, but his
Speaker 4: run after the catch. You know, he was catching a
Speaker 4: lot of checkdowns or you know, chip flats or whatever
Speaker 4: with with Gabriel and Oregon, and you could see really
Speaker 4: the rack was one of the elite traits that we liked,
Speaker 4: and that's going to be you know, that's always an
Speaker 4: important factor for any of our skilled players, and he's
Speaker 4: no different.
Speaker 5: Well, I like talking to you about defense because I
Speaker 5: think you study it as close as anybody and certainly
Speaker 5: keep up with it with your guys and around the
Speaker 5: league as well.
Speaker 6: And I'm kind of curious.
Speaker 5: You know, you mentioned early at the at the top
Speaker 5: of the show that you know, people forget it's so
Speaker 5: much about the players, and obviously you guys have some
Speaker 5: absolute studs on this team, like superstars, but also what
Speaker 5: do you think people miss about kind of the way
Speaker 5: football evolves against itself and what do you think You know,
Speaker 5: everyone's talking about personnel and names and you know, say,
Speaker 5: you know, extra safeties and those types of things. But
Speaker 5: in all of that conversation, as you sort of track
Speaker 5: the way the league actually is moving, what do you
Speaker 5: think maybe we miss when we're thinking about how football's evolving?
Speaker 7: RIGHTD Right?
Speaker 4: I think if you're just talking about our situation, you know,
Speaker 4: just from a general observation, it's still is the greatest
Speaker 4: team sport there is. You're going to play eleven as one,
Speaker 4: you know, we're obviously incredibly excited. If you just want
Speaker 4: to talk about defense, to add Trent McDuffie, to add
Speaker 4: Jalen Watson, to be able to add Miles Garrett are
Speaker 4: those are three awesome players that have had unbelievable success.
Speaker 4: But how do we come together as eleven? How do
Speaker 4: we understand how to utilize Trent and Jalen? How can
Speaker 4: we play seven as one in the back end? How
Speaker 4: does Miles end up learning how to be able to
Speaker 4: rush alongside a Braid and Fisk a Kobe Turner. What
Speaker 4: does it look like for our naturals to take place
Speaker 4: where when you're rushing four, you're still two gaps short.
Speaker 4: And how are we able to kind of cover each
Speaker 4: other and make sure we keep the integrity of the pocket.
Speaker 4: Especially when you look at the first five games of
Speaker 4: the year, every quarterback we play can run and create
Speaker 4: off schedules. So how do we come together as a team,
Speaker 4: How do we understand the intent and the mechanics and
Speaker 4: solving the problems? Like I kind of just mentioned, that's
Speaker 4: the thing I love about football is it's eleven as one.
Speaker 4: It's the greatest team sport that there is, And you
Speaker 4: have to really be able to understand how to work
Speaker 4: off of one another, that player adjacent to you, and
Speaker 4: be able to use the different tools based on what's
Speaker 4: presented in what situations you're talking about.
Speaker 1: Your division rivals are on hard knocks. They are are
Speaker 1: you going to watch it?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I watched it last night?
Speaker 7: You did?
Speaker 1: Did you see the little part where you know Mike McDonald,
Speaker 1: Cooper Kupp are going back that I've been for it?
Speaker 4: Yeah? I bet that happens a lot without the cameras
Speaker 4: there time, you feel great? I loved it. No, listen,
Speaker 4: here's what I would tell you. Cooper is incredibly sharp.
Speaker 4: He has an intimate knowledge of what we did. For
Speaker 4: a while, mike' says. You know, I have as much
Speaker 4: respect for Mike as anybody, And if the situations were reversed,
Speaker 4: I'd do the same. I'd be asking guys about their
Speaker 4: system or vice versa, and so hey.
Speaker 3: Chasing edges?
Speaker 2: Right, why wouldn't you?
Speaker 3: There?
Speaker 4: You go, I get it. But they're awesome. I mean
Speaker 4: they're the raigning super Bowl champs. They they did their thing,
Speaker 4: and so they're the champs for a reason.
Speaker 2: Right, I I couldn't help.
Speaker 1: But note, like right before we started, so I hope
Speaker 1: you're even aware of this, like the NFL Transaction wire
Speaker 1: had Aaron Donald working out with the Rams today, which I.
Speaker 3: Guess did come across as a tryout.
Speaker 2: It did come across as tryout that we've ever had. Okay,
Speaker 2: you think you could make the team, penomen.
Speaker 3: I think you could make the team. Shot.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was honestly our way of being able to
Speaker 4: get a workout with him within the you know, parameters
Speaker 4: of of what's necessary. But Gift Smith said, it's the
Speaker 4: greatest tryout he's ever had.
Speaker 2: Great football coach.
Speaker 1: I don't know if Sean would be the best poker
Speaker 1: player in the world, but about Aaron Donald.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you know what, I've never claimed to be
Speaker 4: a good poker player either.
Speaker 1: You've got plenty to do here. Appreciate the time, gregs,
Speaker 1: We're coming on. Thank you to Sean McVay. That was awesome.
Speaker 1: I know they just send little NFL daily out here,
Speaker 1: and suddenly we got ESPN requesting video.
Speaker 2: Take that NFL network.
Speaker 8: Now.
Speaker 2: I don't want to get I don't want to get
Speaker 2: in any trouble.
Speaker 6: That's a fine.
Speaker 1: We're just, uh, you know, we're just a little NFL daily,
Speaker 1: NFL media these days.
Speaker 2: But very cool, how open he was.
Speaker 1: I liked the half of a second, very serious looking
Speaker 1: as eye. When I brought up the Cooper Cup, Mike
Speaker 1: McDonald clip on hard knocks. Uh for one second there
Speaker 1: the mask kind of came off and it was just like, yeah,
Speaker 1: that was annoying.
Speaker 6: Well you said it yourself. You said it yourself.
Speaker 5: He doesn't really have a poker face, right, So that's
Speaker 5: what's fun about it is how competitive it it really is.
Speaker 5: I know everybody, everybody, this is a fun time of year,
Speaker 5: This is the happy time of year. But these guys
Speaker 5: are breaking camp at LMU and going out to Woodland
Speaker 5: Hills to really install some of their secret stuff away
Speaker 5: from crowds and eyes like ours, and so now this
Speaker 5: is when things really really start.
Speaker 6: To ramp up. So I bet a little bit of
Speaker 6: that was creeping into.
Speaker 1: Yeah, we're here at Loyola Marymount University. You should have mentioned.
Speaker 1: It's got to be one of the most relaxed training
Speaker 1: camp atmospheres there are in the entire NFL, with like
Speaker 1: the ocean breeze coming in.
Speaker 2: It's a great setup.
Speaker 1: And they finish here on Thursday, that day after we're
Speaker 1: taping here, and you're right, go go to their team facility.
Speaker 1: They have to let they were like team reporters watch
Speaker 1: for a little bit, but for them, this fan portion
Speaker 1: of training camp is over. And what we saw on
Speaker 1: the field today, you know it wasn't a Matthews Stafford day.
Speaker 7: It was.
Speaker 2: It was not a great day for the offense.
Speaker 1: We're going to talk to Kevin Dotson in just a
Speaker 1: few minutes after the break and Byron Young of that
Speaker 1: defense and less Steed. And it is interesting to me
Speaker 1: that stets In Bennett is taking all the reps with
Speaker 1: the first team. You know, it was like a little
Speaker 1: surprising to me that ty Simpson isn't getting in the
Speaker 1: mix at all, Like with uh, that's a yet.
Speaker 6: That's a yet to me.
Speaker 5: And I think too, really one of the most important
Speaker 5: things with this team is not quarterback development right now.
Speaker 5: It is how do we make sure that our floor
Speaker 5: is higher when if something happens to Matthew Stafford. Can
Speaker 5: we make sure that this guy is going to be
Speaker 5: our backup quarterback?
Speaker 2: That's my sense on it.
Speaker 5: For Stetson, can we make sure that this guy is
Speaker 5: going to be our backup quarterback? And I think right
Speaker 5: when they drafted Tye it was really interesting. I know
Speaker 5: we talked about it, some of the chatter that was
Speaker 5: coming out about him being a developmental guy, a developmental prospect.
Speaker 5: I know, you really think your number thirteen overall pick
Speaker 5: should be competing right away in training camp. I think
Speaker 5: logic would always tell us that, but the way that
Speaker 5: they said it right away when they picked him really
Speaker 5: made me think, Hey, they're going to try to figure
Speaker 5: out if they have a backup in Stetson who they
Speaker 5: drafted him for, so see if Stetson can do the
Speaker 5: job that they drafted him for. Kind of go from there.
Speaker 5: But yes, it is notable Stetson Bennett is working with
Speaker 5: the I guess we'd call it the first team here,
Speaker 5: but the second team when Matthew Stafford is.
Speaker 1: Here, right and look, if he has a ton of
Speaker 1: days like today, they might be thinking about Jimmy Garoppolo.
Speaker 1: Like the offense, I know, it's dangerous to take a
Speaker 1: snapshot of one day, and there haven't been that many
Speaker 1: reports about the offense struggling. It was virtually non functional.
Speaker 1: Stets and Bennet could run the offense. And like the
Speaker 1: amount of catches that people not named Puka Nakua made
Speaker 1: were you know, very low. It was pretty much pooka
Speaker 1: or nothing. But the offense was running. Ty Simpson also
Speaker 1: through a you know, there were interceptions of plenty balls
Speaker 1: in the coverage, him holding on to the ball, dumping
Speaker 1: it off. It was a day with Sean McVay right
Speaker 1: behind him that, you know, I have a feeling frustrated
Speaker 1: Sean McVay very much like whether we think it's important or.
Speaker 6: I think it's important.
Speaker 5: I do think it's important, And I was also thinking
Speaker 5: right about in the middle of practice, I'm so glad
Speaker 5: that we got Sean McVay on our show before this
Speaker 5: practice and not after this practice.
Speaker 1: I was too, because it's one of those learning moments
Speaker 1: for a rookie quarterback. Especially Simpson just looked like they
Speaker 1: were throwing a lot at them defensively, and the defense
Speaker 1: was absolutely dominating and he was swimming on this particular day.
Speaker 2: But it happens.
Speaker 1: I'll never forget, you know, overreacting to Aaron Rodgers, like
Speaker 1: just absolutely struggling day after day in his rookie training
Speaker 1: camp and their fourth quarterback, Craig Nall out playing him
Speaker 1: like day after day and even people panicking and one
Speaker 1: of them, you know, became Aaron Rodgers, you know, so.
Speaker 6: In all that means.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I don't know, there is a part of
Speaker 1: me that's like, man, he looks they look a little
Speaker 1: small back there at quarterback, and they were struggling. If
Speaker 1: they have a lot of days like this, maybe you
Speaker 1: give old Jimmy g a call, but that's for later
Speaker 1: in this month. And ultimately we know like this is
Speaker 1: a championship contending team if Matthew Stafford is at quarterback,
Speaker 1: and they won't be if not. And man, there is
Speaker 1: like a special feeling about this team at this point
Speaker 1: in time. As Miles Garrett shirtless walks by and greeted
Speaker 1: the family.
Speaker 5: I really really wanted a picture of you either standing
Speaker 5: next to Miles Garrett or you standing next to Kevin Dotson,
Speaker 5: just for scale.
Speaker 2: I'm a small man.
Speaker 1: No, I'd rather be standing, and we have sent them
Speaker 1: out next to Sean mcvayh and you, you know, it's
Speaker 1: totally fine.
Speaker 2: That's where I'm good.
Speaker 6: Sang it.
Speaker 1: Let's take a break, let's you know, listen to the commercials,
Speaker 1: make a little money, and then when we come back
Speaker 1: from the break, we are going to hear in order
Speaker 1: from Kevin Dotson, great personality, you know, great run blocking
Speaker 1: guard for the Rams, Byron Young was entering a contract year,
Speaker 1: one of the more underrated pass rushers in the league.
Speaker 1: And then we are going to wrap up the show
Speaker 1: with less need and I do it at the end
Speaker 1: of the show. But I always just like to throw
Speaker 1: a little bit of a reminder out there for people
Speaker 1: when we're gonna go live on YouTube. So we might
Speaker 1: actually do that at the beginning of the Hall of Fame.
Speaker 6: Good news to me.
Speaker 1: We can and just set your notifications if you follow
Speaker 1: us there, we'll go live. We can watch the game
Speaker 1: a little bit, do some news, play a fun game.
Speaker 1: And yes, Jordan is holding the flash card that let's need. Yeah,
Speaker 1: some strange notes that during the interview that you'll see later.
Speaker 5: You'll see it later, we'll share it out. It's also
Speaker 5: not written in linear. Yeah, it's all over the place,
Speaker 5: which I guess we could have expected.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's last seen the nutshell back in a few minutes.
Speaker 1: All right, we are here with Kevin Dotson, big time
Speaker 1: guard of the Los Angeles Rams, and he's.
Speaker 2: Made it a tradition here for training Gimmer. Maybe it's
Speaker 2: all year round.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Is the hair with the horns in it just how
Speaker 1: you're existing in life right now?
Speaker 8: You know, it's just kind of my commitment to the team. Yeah,
Speaker 8: I just let it, let it grow out, and then
Speaker 8: once it's done, I'll decide if I'll do it in
Speaker 8: about a week. I did it last week last year,
Speaker 8: so you know, just I'll make that decision when it comes.
Speaker 6: You got the blue going this year, though, which I like.
Speaker 5: You know, you saw the team came out with their
Speaker 5: throwbacks and I actually.
Speaker 7: Did it before the team for the team.
Speaker 8: I wanted to do the old school you know, sure, right,
Speaker 8: and then they came out with it.
Speaker 9: Like, hey, this perfect.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you kind of called your shot there.
Speaker 5: I feel like you've kind of done that since you
Speaker 5: got here though, just on the field too. I mean,
Speaker 5: the second they acquired you from the Steelers a couple
Speaker 5: of years ago, you were like, I'm coming in hot
Speaker 5: for this position here.
Speaker 8: So I've always put it on my mind that if
Speaker 8: I'm on a team, I have to start. I have
Speaker 8: to I have to play, like I don't know what
Speaker 8: type of teammate I am if I'm not contributing.
Speaker 9: To the team.
Speaker 6: Well, you've been the iron Man too in the past.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's it's very cool. You know.
Speaker 5: Your arrival a couple of years ago signified a shift
Speaker 5: to more physicality up front, you know, going from that
Speaker 5: wide and middle zone and a lot of duo and
Speaker 5: gap stuff now, which we know Kien loves to run
Speaker 5: behind you guys, that's been really a staple here for
Speaker 5: a couple of years. Can you tell us a little
Speaker 5: bit more about being inside that room and being a
Speaker 5: part of that really significant change into how tough this
Speaker 5: team wanted to be up front?
Speaker 8: You know, I always try to, you know, know what
Speaker 8: my personal goals are and knowing what kind of person
Speaker 8: I am to kind of do that introspection of yourself
Speaker 8: of like what do I do best?
Speaker 7: What do I want to be known for?
Speaker 8: And I've always wanted to be known for a run,
Speaker 8: block and office alignment, and that's been my m since
Speaker 8: high school.
Speaker 6: Get to play guard, but I've always wanted to.
Speaker 8: Play guard always, So I've always wanted to block down.
Speaker 8: I always wanted to one on one somebody like this
Speaker 8: has always been my thing. So when I came here,
Speaker 8: it was like, I have to show them that I
Speaker 8: can't pass block, but when we were run, when we run,
Speaker 8: I want to be the difference maker. So when I
Speaker 8: came in, I knew my first game I had to
Speaker 8: show what I could do. And then I feel like
Speaker 8: they kind of understood that this right side.
Speaker 7: We're gonna have some we're gonna have some good runs
Speaker 7: on this right side.
Speaker 8: And I feel like everybody just they already had it
Speaker 8: in them, but you just they just got to see
Speaker 8: somebody else doing it, or we got to change the plays,
Speaker 8: and it's just they they're all locked in on running
Speaker 8: the ball. We know if we can run the ball,
Speaker 8: we can do anything on this game. So once the
Speaker 8: run game is going, everything is open. And because you
Speaker 8: have nine back there, if you got you gotta worry
Speaker 8: about the run in to pass.
Speaker 7: It's it's scary.
Speaker 2: And last year you had it going.
Speaker 1: Some of the numbers are crazy if you look at
Speaker 1: the efficiency numbers like success rate EPA for play like
Speaker 1: it was one of the most effective running games. Not
Speaker 1: just in the league, you were the most effective, but
Speaker 1: of the last handful of years. And yet Sean and
Speaker 1: you got you got the MVP. It's so pass heavy.
Speaker 1: Do you you ever like getting his ear that, hey,
Speaker 1: we got the most efficient running game and yet we're
Speaker 1: still not running the ball that much, like, you know,
Speaker 1: on a percentage basis compared you ever you ever ask
Speaker 1: him about that.
Speaker 8: We've we've had some talks on the sidelines during games.
Speaker 8: You know, sometimes you could just coach, Hey, we get
Speaker 8: a little fancy, well, let's just let's just let's go,
Speaker 8: you know, let's go head on and see how they
Speaker 8: really feel when they get pussing in their mouths, and
Speaker 8: he usually listens. He usually says, oh, you know what,
Speaker 8: let's try it your way at least, And then we
Speaker 8: tried and be like, oh, well, I mean, I guess
Speaker 8: you were right.
Speaker 5: Corey gets mad and calls the screen to your side.
Speaker 8: Hey, I'm gonna do whatever you say. I'm just I'm
Speaker 8: just throwing suggestions.
Speaker 2: I love it.
Speaker 5: It's it's cool to watch. You know, you have a
Speaker 5: new right tackle, I know, not new to you. You know,
Speaker 5: Warren very well, right tackle. There's a young guy wearing
Speaker 5: your old teammates number seventy nine out there. I noticed
Speaker 5: he's doing some he's doing some really good stuff as
Speaker 5: camp starts.
Speaker 6: With the twos.
Speaker 5: But Warren, I wanted to talk to you a little
Speaker 5: bit more about because I know it's been a big
Speaker 5: point of pride for you to.
Speaker 6: Help instill that confidence in him.
Speaker 5: He already is a very centered person, but I know
Speaker 5: for your communication and your sort of belief in him
Speaker 5: has has helped him too. What about that did you
Speaker 5: sort of take on yourself to just make sure he felt,
Speaker 5: you know, hey, you're not coming in and replacing anybody.
Speaker 5: You are you and and being on this right side
Speaker 5: now after like a real legend retires is likely.
Speaker 8: As you say, never treating him as in like he's
Speaker 8: a backup coming in. He's I'm always thinking, whoever they
Speaker 8: put in, I can trust anybody they put in on
Speaker 8: this right side, I'll trust. And him coming from a
Speaker 8: pedigree of Georgia, they're used to win in there, used
Speaker 8: to going against big competition. So he was always he's
Speaker 8: always been, you know, confident, so he never he never
Speaker 8: came in there and be like, I'm going to get
Speaker 8: somebody big.
Speaker 9: He's used to that.
Speaker 7: Hey, somebody get this man away from U.
Speaker 5: Scooter Jalen Watson's trying to steal trying to steal a
Speaker 5: scooter here.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, you've got a lot of attention with this scooter. You're,
Speaker 1: you know, a big man on a scooter. What what's
Speaker 1: the what's the strategy there?
Speaker 8: Just taking the little steps off, you know, after practice.
Speaker 7: I'm not dying.
Speaker 5: I got it, got it good shocks.
Speaker 8: It's only supposed to carry like two forty but it
Speaker 8: does the job.
Speaker 1: How is it going against this defensive line in practice today,
Speaker 1: you guys were getting after it and in the running game.
Speaker 9: As you're doing it.
Speaker 8: It could be frustrating, but in the end it's a
Speaker 8: blessing because you're going against the best you can and
Speaker 8: you're doing that every day, and so it's you start
Speaker 8: going into the game and stuff just way easier.
Speaker 5: I know it was a rest day for him, but
Speaker 5: are you happy that usually Miles Garrett is not lined
Speaker 5: up on your side?
Speaker 8: Man, I've started to get to where it's just like,
Speaker 8: I'm gonna have to do it anyway. So if he's
Speaker 8: on my side, hey, just get the job done, do
Speaker 8: what you can do, and and uh, you know, we
Speaker 8: have focus on him. So it's not I'm not going
Speaker 8: one on one with him, so it's mostly Warren a
Speaker 8: slow him down.
Speaker 2: It's okay.
Speaker 8: So somebody could come out there and try to help somebody,
Speaker 8: you know, try to chip him or something, but he's
Speaker 8: definitely a uh he has that oro on the field
Speaker 8: when he's out there. It's like if even if you're
Speaker 8: not looking to this side, you can feel this this
Speaker 8: pressure over the year, so it's it's it's definitely a difference.
Speaker 5: You know, we talked a lot with Sean McVay earlier
Speaker 5: today and a little with Less Sneed as well about
Speaker 5: the heavier personnels that you guys are using. I know
Speaker 5: everybody's been talking about this for a few months now.
Speaker 5: We are obsessed with it on our show. We've been
Speaker 5: calling for it for years. And now you guys got
Speaker 5: like a million really good tight ends right and you
Speaker 5: can do it. What does that do though? I mean
Speaker 5: you can run or pass out of it, we know.
Speaker 5: But for you, who does you do love that extra
Speaker 5: physical edge? You do love knowing even if it's a pass,
Speaker 5: it's going to be, you know, very very large person
Speaker 5: coming coming.
Speaker 6: Right at you for the yards after the catch play?
Speaker 6: What is that for you? Guys? As a grid it just.
Speaker 8: Helps overall play, overall being able to help each other
Speaker 8: in the run. So it's like the more people we
Speaker 8: have out there, the more double teams we can get,
Speaker 8: the more physical we can be because people can't focus
Speaker 8: on one person, they can't focus on one tight end
Speaker 8: like some teams do. Some teams will put a defensive
Speaker 8: tackle out there to, you know, just to try to
Speaker 8: disrupt the tight end. Now we got two of them
Speaker 8: on them, so it's like they don't get that advantage.
Speaker 8: We get the advantage of having more bigs and the
Speaker 8: possibility of the past, so they can't play us aggressive
Speaker 8: where they putting ten in the box type you know deal,
Speaker 8: So they're still scared of the past. You can't be
Speaker 8: scared of the past and do the run. So it's
Speaker 8: a blessing for us.
Speaker 6: Do you like though that?
Speaker 5: I mean some of the motions This is on tape,
Speaker 5: so I don't feel like I'm revealing states, but some
Speaker 5: of the motions that the tight ends run, especially like
Speaker 5: the inside alignment guy and he'll he'll sort of act
Speaker 5: like he's motioning across and then he'll just dive bomb
Speaker 5: like the middle gaps right when you guys are we've
Speaker 5: run or passed, and yet you'll still have another tight
Speaker 5: end out there as that mismatch. So as the lineman,
Speaker 5: first of all, what's the communication like when someone else
Speaker 5: is coming into a gap that normally you would occupy?
Speaker 5: And then what is that like knowing also, hey, we're
Speaker 5: going to have sort of these numbers on our side
Speaker 5: and another big body going down the field.
Speaker 8: It's really just you know, another layer of security when
Speaker 8: you know somebody's going through that gap. You can go
Speaker 8: a little harder in this way, knowing that you have
Speaker 8: pretiction on the backside if they do move. So it's
Speaker 8: just another way to get us moving more confidently and
Speaker 8: then more confident. The less hesitation you have, the better
Speaker 8: you play.
Speaker 1: You take it personal a little bit that people looking
Speaker 1: for weaknesses in this rams team and like the best
Speaker 1: thing come up and like the offensive line, Like is
Speaker 1: that the strength of this team?
Speaker 8: I don't think anybody said that he is. I don't
Speaker 8: think anybody said the office line.
Speaker 1: How have you seen this group kind of come together
Speaker 1: in your time? There as like a centerpiece.
Speaker 8: I think offensive line is always going to be a
Speaker 8: focal point of any offense. I don't believe anybody can
Speaker 8: get any accolades if the officeer line isn't good. You
Speaker 8: don't get an MVP. You don't get offensive players of
Speaker 8: the years. You know, you don't get all these wide
Speaker 8: receivers doing doing all these great things, twenty touchdowns and
Speaker 8: stuff like that if you don't have good blocking. I
Speaker 8: feel like our whole offensive line finished within the top
Speaker 8: ten of every position. So it's kind of crazy that
Speaker 8: nobody got.
Speaker 7: A Pro Bowl.
Speaker 8: I don't understand that we have one of the most
Speaker 8: explosive offenses.
Speaker 1: That's sort of what I'm getting as for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: the name value isn't there.
Speaker 2: But we're going to do our best.
Speaker 1: Kevin Dotson one of the best run blocking guards offensive
Speaker 1: lineman players in the entire NFL. And yeah, one of
Speaker 1: the one of the best haircuts coming in here and
Speaker 1: a painter right doing it.
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, try not to make it a job, but
Speaker 8: you know, I'm really loving it.
Speaker 1: Still got time on the field for the Rams. That's
Speaker 1: it for Kevin, but we are gonna welcome in his
Speaker 1: teammate Byron Young.
Speaker 2: Net.
Speaker 1: We are here with Byron Young, the fourth year edge
Speaker 1: rusher for the Los Angeles Rams, wearing the black on
Speaker 1: black Rams at which I don't think I feel like
Speaker 1: isn't worn enough.
Speaker 2: That's like, that's nacky nice.
Speaker 9: No, for sure, I feel like.
Speaker 6: That's kind of cool.
Speaker 5: I feel a little bad that I'm wearing my just
Speaker 5: you know, my typical Everyone in the airport has one of.
Speaker 9: These, right, I feel like it's smooth of black on black.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I gotta I gotta level up. Byron.
Speaker 5: We're so thrilled to have you with us today. Because man,
Speaker 5: what a I mean, how's the year been. It's not like,
Speaker 5: not like anything's happened, right you had any how's everything
Speaker 5: going out there? And how are you kind of getting
Speaker 5: used to new teammates transition, you know, with with Jared going,
Speaker 5: and how's everything been sort of in that assimilation process.
Speaker 9: For Oh, I've been busy.
Speaker 10: You know, I've been busy, stressful, complicated, but we're still going.
Speaker 10: You know, been blessed honestly, my rehab and going great.
Speaker 10: Finally getting to get going, feeling like myself again. You know,
Speaker 10: I'm limited a little bit, but when I go, I'm
Speaker 10: go for a goal. So you know, I'm thankful for that,
Speaker 10: you know. You know, uh, Verse going. You know, he
Speaker 10: ended up getting traded for Miles. You know that's unfortunate
Speaker 10: that you know he had to part that way, But
Speaker 10: at the same time, you know, it's a blessing to
Speaker 10: have Miles and you know, a great pass rushing like
Speaker 10: that to pick, you know, pick his brain been playing
Speaker 10: for so long, you know, so you know it was
Speaker 10: it was a blessing to you know, be in a
Speaker 10: room with him right now, and you know, every day
Speaker 10: I learned from him, so you know, it was some
Speaker 10: ups and down.
Speaker 9: But you know, we're still going. We're still going. We're
Speaker 9: doing good.
Speaker 5: So I'm kind of curious, you know, when you when
Speaker 5: someone like that comes in, like Miles's caliber of player,
Speaker 5: and obviously he rushes a certain way, right, I mean
Speaker 5: just I mean even just standing there, the amount of
Speaker 5: space he takes up and and the alignments and the
Speaker 5: way he likes to feel space and and kind of
Speaker 5: learn you as well, and your habits and the way
Speaker 5: you like to rush.
Speaker 6: A lot of it's a non verbal process.
Speaker 5: I understand that when you're you know, in the snap itself,
Speaker 5: but what's the what's the communication between snaps? Like, how
Speaker 5: do you guys talk to each other through kind of
Speaker 5: like here's what I like to do and then I'll
Speaker 5: feel you kind of come around here.
Speaker 6: How do you guys like to uh like play that
Speaker 6: out with each other.
Speaker 9: He's not like during the player before Yeah, during the play.
Speaker 10: Yeah, we kind of communicate, communicate before the play, you know,
Speaker 10: just talk through the snap and just what we see.
Speaker 10: Sometimes sometimes we probably don't have that much a time,
Speaker 10: but we already we already gonna do that meat room,
Speaker 10: like depending on if it's a tripper like the other day.
Speaker 10: You know, he asked me how do I take on
Speaker 10: chipper blocks? And I'm just giving him my different ways
Speaker 10: and he got hit different ways of just picking my
Speaker 10: brain too, So us kind of learning off each other.
Speaker 10: But when we, you know, before the snap, we always
Speaker 10: say something to each other. You know, it was like
Speaker 10: two men, and he was like, it's you. He was like,
Speaker 10: it's meeting you and you like getting the sack, So,
Speaker 10: you know, just us kind of being on the same
Speaker 10: page of rushes. You know, I'm kind of already know
Speaker 10: what kind of rush you're gonna do, just because he's
Speaker 10: probably most likely gonna get a slide, so so I
Speaker 10: know what what he's gonna do more than likely. So
Speaker 10: you know, I try to play smart too and try
Speaker 10: to play off each other.
Speaker 2: But what do you think has been the key to
Speaker 2: your development?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 1: You we did a rankings you wouldn't know about this
Speaker 1: this this offseason and you were part you know, I
Speaker 1: watched some Byron Young tape and you're in our like
Speaker 1: top twenty five ed rushers, and I think you're kind
Speaker 1: of a ball knower's you know guy. Yeah, those who
Speaker 1: don't know like, and you've gotten steadily better. But you know,
Speaker 1: not a name that like maybe the average fan knew
Speaker 1: about a couple of years ago. What have you done
Speaker 1: to your game that you think has brought you to
Speaker 1: this level, Like over the last three years, what's different
Speaker 1: about your four byron compared to when.
Speaker 3: You were a rookie.
Speaker 10: Honestly, I just think my mindset of understanding that I'm
Speaker 10: going to have up and downs, I'm going to feel
Speaker 10: I'm going to have plays the days I don't like,
Speaker 10: I'm not gonna feel the best out of the time,
Speaker 10: but I got to keep going. You know, lifeing perfect
Speaker 10: and football not perfect easy. So at the same time,
Speaker 10: just taking that approach and growing like that. I learned
Speaker 10: that from Ad my rookie year. He was telling me.
Speaker 10: He told me, uh, it's okay to make a mistake,
Speaker 10: you know, just make up for that, you know, and
Speaker 10: just how the mindset I want to get better. But
Speaker 10: over the years, you know, I would just find out
Speaker 10: different things to do, workouts, pilates, scratch lab just all
Speaker 10: those different things I just kind of put into my
Speaker 10: recovery workout, whatever it is, and just trusting the process,
Speaker 10: you know, because at the same time, it is like
Speaker 10: you gotta understand, like this is football. You know, it's
Speaker 10: a it's a sport where you're gonna get beat up
Speaker 10: all the time, regardless if you're playing all the time.
Speaker 10: But you got to practice, you got to go through
Speaker 10: all of that. So you know, it's just I think
Speaker 10: over the year, just looking back and just really studying
Speaker 10: myself and understanding like, Okay, I want to get better
Speaker 10: at this, I want to get better at that. But
Speaker 10: just taking one thing at a time and not trying
Speaker 10: to do everything at the same time, but just take
Speaker 10: that one thing and try to get better at that.
Speaker 10: That's why I do every day when I step on
Speaker 10: the field, just take that one thing, whether it's getting
Speaker 10: off the ball, whether it just using my hands better,
Speaker 10: getting off block faster.
Speaker 9: I'm taking that one thing today.
Speaker 10: I'm will work on that so that I think over
Speaker 10: the year is just consistently doing that just made me.
Speaker 9: Who I am right now.
Speaker 5: You know, I covered you when you first came in.
Speaker 5: You know, I was a beat writer here and you
Speaker 5: have grown so much. And I think people who are
Speaker 5: fans of this team, who know and who know of
Speaker 5: your play have as you've grown into you know, more
Speaker 5: of your adulthood.
Speaker 6: Also, your rush.
Speaker 5: Has just kind of blossomed in that way too. And
Speaker 5: I feel like you rush with a lot of personality,
Speaker 5: Like I feel like people can know who you are
Speaker 5: and what you're about by watching how you rush the quarterback.
Speaker 5: Am I on the right track with that? And what
Speaker 5: do you think they're thinking or feeling when they see
Speaker 5: you and kind of express yourself that way?
Speaker 10: You know, kind of like what you said, you know,
Speaker 10: you could tell like type of rush I am, And
Speaker 10: you know how how I'm going to rush probably you know,
Speaker 10: going to get different tackles and stuff like that.
Speaker 9: I try to give them different looks.
Speaker 10: I do feel like I sometimes the slay the same thing,
Speaker 10: but that's where I was feel like I was growing
Speaker 10: and learning that it's kind of doing a different rush
Speaker 10: and giving them different looks. But yeah, you know the
Speaker 10: type of Russia I am, you know kind of you know,
Speaker 10: I love the way I rush. I think I grew
Speaker 10: over the years, and you know, it's amazing that you know,
Speaker 10: we still here doing interviews together.
Speaker 5: They know how crazy is that you're not as old
Speaker 5: as me? Though, do not even get started, no, I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean.
Speaker 9: It's a blessed to even be older.
Speaker 10: Though you know a lot of people can't say that
Speaker 10: and then where you was and where you're at now
Speaker 10: hear you got promoted for congratulations. Yeah, so yeah, it's
Speaker 10: you know, it's been an amazing journey and we you know,
Speaker 10: still growing, still trying to be better, a better rusher.
Speaker 9: I want to be a household name.
Speaker 10: I be a name that you know when people you
Speaker 10: know bring up around to be like you know, with
Speaker 10: the Rush, Miles Garrett and Barry Young, Kobe Turner, all
Speaker 10: of us and Bread and Fish, all of us in
Speaker 10: the Rush collectively. So I want to be better like
Speaker 10: that for my team and you know, just be someone
Speaker 10: that they have to look out for it.
Speaker 1: So what is that personality then? If they're saying it, well,
Speaker 1: is it.
Speaker 9: I would say, like a demon?
Speaker 10: Honestly, I you know, right now, I just feel like
Speaker 10: I'm just not hearing my peak and just now getting
Speaker 10: to where I.
Speaker 9: Want to get to. But I'm not satisfied, you know.
Speaker 10: I definitely think, you know, last year was a great,
Speaker 10: you know, a great step in the right direction. But
Speaker 10: this year I want to take a you know, a
Speaker 10: big step, you know, kind of like a Miles get
Speaker 10: get off steps, so that you know, trying to get
Speaker 10: like that.
Speaker 5: So it's cool because I mean I assume you will
Speaker 5: have more opportunities for sure. I mean they're going to
Speaker 5: send everybody plus the kitchen sink at Miles Garrett to
Speaker 5: try to stop him, right, and then you're like, hello,
Speaker 5: nobody around me. I hope anyway, or you get a
Speaker 5: lot of one on ones and in reality.
Speaker 10: Hopefully that's the plan. You know, just trying to take
Speaker 10: advantage of my opportunities. I was just telling them the
Speaker 10: other day with Aaron Donald my rookie year, I didn't
Speaker 10: understand the offside had and him getting a slide and
Speaker 10: what that does for me. But you know, like I said,
Speaker 10: you know, I'm growing going into my fourth year. I
Speaker 10: understand like the one on ones and not getting a chip,
Speaker 10: not getting that guard coming back all the time, or
Speaker 10: the center. So it's like trying to take advantage of
Speaker 10: those opportunities, you know, every every chance I get.
Speaker 1: I looked at your schedule and it's hard not to
Speaker 1: notice the Seahawks games at the very end of the year,
Speaker 1: which is kind of similar to last year where he
Speaker 1: played twice at the end of the year. Not you
Speaker 1: not to bring up bad memories, but I do like
Speaker 1: thinking about the matchup specifically, and just hearing from guys
Speaker 1: who are technicians like yourself, what about the matchup against
Speaker 1: those two tackles specifically Abe Lucas, you know, Charles Cross
Speaker 1: who you're matching up against, you know in those games,
Speaker 1: Like what's the scouting report a little bit on them,
Speaker 1: Like what kind of problemses they give you?
Speaker 2: What kind of problems do you give them?
Speaker 9: M hm, you know the scot report.
Speaker 10: We just knew what type of tackles they was, those
Speaker 10: two good tackles, so we know we had to come
Speaker 10: at them certain ways. They sometimes do have the trip
Speaker 10: right there, but at the same time they good at
Speaker 10: just jump saying you trying to take away your speed,
Speaker 10: So you know you got to kind of play off
Speaker 10: that trying to get some quick wins in there. But
Speaker 10: you know, those two guys did a really good job
Speaker 10: with kind of handling power a little bit, so at
Speaker 10: the same time, like you probably get them a good
Speaker 10: few times with power, but then they'll come back and
Speaker 10: kind of like you know, get you back. You got
Speaker 10: to have a good disengage with both of those guys
Speaker 10: because they really good with their hands. So you know,
Speaker 10: just playing those two guys and compete in event, you know,
Speaker 10: just been great.
Speaker 9: Good on good.
Speaker 5: You have two really really great corners behind you now,
Speaker 5: and I mean not to compare to anybody else, but
Speaker 5: Trent and Jalen coming in. I mean you can see
Speaker 5: they first of all, they understand each other really really well.
Speaker 5: They understand space, They're aggressive, they're confident, they play. I
Speaker 5: mean like it's true they've been playing football at a
Speaker 5: really really high level for years. Do you feel the
Speaker 5: I know it's you guys have just got in the pads.
Speaker 5: It's still what week two of camp. All that, I
Speaker 5: understand that, but do you feel the pace picking up
Speaker 5: a little bit.
Speaker 6: Like you can if you can get to the quarterback faster.
Speaker 5: You just know that they're coming down tighter, that they're
Speaker 5: covering aggressively in the way where maybe you know that
Speaker 5: that complimentary feeling is there and it feels like you
Speaker 5: guys are truly setting each other up.
Speaker 10: No, one hundred percent, you know, I was just talking
Speaker 10: to those guys and already watching them play is amazing.
Speaker 10: Like even like playing against a guy like Matthew Stafford
Speaker 10: that those he could make and just the plays that
Speaker 10: the cornerbacks making, both of those guys is insane because like,
Speaker 10: regardless how good you covering, that guy, Matthew know how
Speaker 10: to put on the spot. So for them to play
Speaker 10: good coverage with Matthew throwing the ball is like it's insane,
Speaker 10: you know, you know, and sometimes it probably don't go
Speaker 10: their way, but they always in the area and that's
Speaker 10: the best you could do in that situation. So, you know,
Speaker 10: having conversation with them, kind of playing hand in hand,
Speaker 10: like we work off them, they work off us. So
Speaker 10: like if we don't get to the rush, I mean,
Speaker 10: they're gonna be in coveraged all day. If they don't
Speaker 10: get have good coverage or leverage, you know, they're gonna
Speaker 10: have a quick pass. So it's like, you know, it
Speaker 10: go hand in hand. So we kind of work off
Speaker 10: each other and communicate like that. So when I'm rushing,
Speaker 10: I kind of think about the DB's and coverage. I'm like,
Speaker 10: you know, I gotta get your quarterback. You know, regardless
Speaker 10: if I don't sack them, I gotta make him uncomfortable.
Speaker 10: I got forced to make a bad play. So you know,
Speaker 10: like you said, go hand in hand, just try to
Speaker 10: make each other better and just.
Speaker 9: Working off each other.
Speaker 5: Do you kind of ever have to warn new teammates
Speaker 5: on defense like hey, yeah, nine, Like I mean, he's
Speaker 5: gonna get you a lot, you know, Like.
Speaker 10: You know, Jaalen, I just seen a post up there.
Speaker 10: Jaalen was like he never seen nobody throw the ball,
Speaker 10: like how throwing it? It's just like I think we
Speaker 10: didn't have to tell him that, like honestly, but it
Speaker 10: was already like from day one, it was like, you know,
Speaker 10: Matthew shit right in front of me. I'm just sitting
Speaker 10: here like, bro, I'll be getting here in front of me.
Speaker 10: I like this is crazy, like it was when he
Speaker 10: threw the pooka the other day and he just like,
Speaker 10: it's know what place you could have put it?
Speaker 9: Butt right there?
Speaker 10: I wasn't couraged with the boot on Kobe and I'm
Speaker 10: on him.
Speaker 9: I got the hand right here at his head. He
Speaker 9: threw the ball right there.
Speaker 10: I'm like, it's it's nothing like It's like, you know,
Speaker 10: sometimes you gotta say, you know, I took my head
Speaker 10: to you. That's that's the best you could do, and
Speaker 10: just go ahead do the next play, you know, live
Speaker 10: to us another down.
Speaker 6: Does he ever say anything after he throws one?
Speaker 9: You don't say anything, right, That's the thing.
Speaker 10: That's the thing, Like I never now that you said,
Speaker 10: I never hear him talking to feel like I never
Speaker 10: heard him sat word. He just so like he's he's
Speaker 10: he's a stud man like he like I've never seen
Speaker 10: nobody play like him. He just he's a dog and
Speaker 10: he have that mentality like he trying to get better
Speaker 10: with us. Say, he's definitely making us better about going again,
Speaker 10: we're going against the best quarterback in the league right now.
Speaker 9: So that's that's that's amazing.
Speaker 1: Quiet Assassin. You've since you've entered the league, you know
Speaker 1: you and Jordan, you know you. She's been covering you
Speaker 1: for three each one of those years. Yeah, you've advanced
Speaker 1: a little bit closer to that super Bowl, Like it's
Speaker 1: like very linear progress. Does this year with everything around
Speaker 1: it feel like a little different?
Speaker 10: Honestly for me, I always have the mindset of going
Speaker 10: to get there. Like I'm not gonna say it feel
Speaker 10: a little different. It feel a little different going a
Speaker 10: year four, but just I feel like a growth mindsell
Speaker 10: is you know, always feeling like we could get to
Speaker 10: the Bowl, Like last year, I phil we could have
Speaker 10: get there the year before that. You know, I never
Speaker 10: think that, Okay, this year we're going to you know,
Speaker 10: like last year, not saying like you know, oh, we're
Speaker 10: gonna get to a conference championship. Okay, now this year
Speaker 10: we're gonna get to sup Bowl. No, it's more like
Speaker 10: every year we're trying to get to the Super Bowl,
Speaker 10: and we have the mondset, so you know, this year,
Speaker 10: I'm I'm very excited. We got you know, new guys,
Speaker 10: got some new faces, and we're working good with each other.
Speaker 9: So I'm looking forward to it.
Speaker 2: Appreciate you and all your time. Very generous with it.
Speaker 1: Byron Young, fourth year edge for the Los Angeles Rams,
Speaker 1: making that number zero look cool.
Speaker 6: Sure, I appreciate that contract.
Speaker 9: That's right, right, everything play.
Speaker 1: Wait, wrapping up the show with less Snead, who's making
Speaker 1: me nervous. He requested a card and a pen and
Speaker 1: he's writing notes as I'm introducing you.
Speaker 2: What did you just write?
Speaker 7: I just noticed we got a lot of ink. Yeah,
Speaker 7: your fonts very similar. See you know what I mean?
Speaker 7: This one here typewriter for work works Okay, I mean
Speaker 7: it's kind of.
Speaker 2: Do you like to look Okay?
Speaker 1: Usually this one says he had the call I got
Speaker 1: I got another various that's a little art up there stuff. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's this is more of a this is a California cutie.
Speaker 1: You know, we try not to put that too much
Speaker 1: on camera. NFL speak for yourself. I'm blazing a trail, Okay,
Speaker 1: less need is here a day of stars, as we mentioned,
Speaker 1: like Clayton Kershaw's in the mix, a lot of stars.
Speaker 7: There's a baton cage right there. We ought to go
Speaker 7: see if anyone can make contact anyone audience on the field,
Speaker 7: alo the sideline, if there is someone ten thousand dollars,
Speaker 7: if you can make if you can even just do
Speaker 7: a foul ball, if.
Speaker 6: There's someone in this group who you think could have
Speaker 6: a shot.
Speaker 7: Who is it kind of thing? Who's the Do you.
Speaker 1: Have any ex baseball players on the team. Our producer
Speaker 1: Eric is already plenty of himself. He's like, I could
Speaker 1: foil it off.
Speaker 7: Fouling off, you're the baseball I'm going with Eric. Anybody
Speaker 7: that that is that confident? Borring Stock, oh.
Speaker 6: Man, what it would be like to have that kind
Speaker 6: of confidence.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say to you, do you feel as
Speaker 1: the GM of the Los Angeles Rams now? And like Dodgers,
Speaker 1: it's all stars. Lakers, you know, are the are the
Speaker 1: Lakers you're now bringing out. You feel a little pressure
Speaker 1: almost like we got we have to deliver.
Speaker 7: Know your ecosystems, confident, know how to thrive in it. Right,
Speaker 7: Here's what I do know. I don't know a lot
Speaker 7: about baseball. Yeah, but the other morning I woke up
Speaker 7: to the trade the Dodgers made, and my first thought was,
Speaker 7: I really don't know who this is, but I bet
Speaker 7: he's good. Like, I just bet he's like one of
Speaker 7: the best. So I don't follow baseball knowing the names,
Speaker 7: but I just automatically assume, well, I bet this guy's
Speaker 7: really good. It's not like you just go trade for
Speaker 7: a middle.
Speaker 2: Reliever hashtag analysis.
Speaker 7: You nailed it.
Speaker 6: It's kind of a metaphor reputation.
Speaker 5: It's not like you guys just went out and traded
Speaker 5: for a middle reliever either.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 6: It's kind of a medical.
Speaker 5: Closer, Yeah, a closer. And honestly, it really got me
Speaker 5: thinking about, like kind of your trajectory as a GM.
Speaker 5: You're now one of the longest your gams in the league,
Speaker 5: not to aide you maybe a little to age you.
Speaker 5: And I wondered when you decided or when you discovered that,
Speaker 5: like you were going to be this kind of general manager.
Speaker 5: You guys pivot a lot, You're aggressive, you take risks,
Speaker 5: you embrace risks. When did you kind of in your
Speaker 5: career did you think, Okay, I already know this maybe
Speaker 5: is who I am as a person.
Speaker 6: Now I'm going to really just try to send it
Speaker 6: as the I.
Speaker 7: Think when you get in the chair, you're helping, you know,
Speaker 7: build a team. The whole goal is to build. You
Speaker 7: want to build? Do you want to have the breakthrough year?
Speaker 7: Always go break through? That's that Cinderella season. And then
Speaker 7: after that I call it your real The real stuff
Speaker 7: starts and like everyone can have a hit, but can
Speaker 7: you come back and do it again consistent? So I
Speaker 7: think once we showed we could do that, there's efficacy.
Speaker 7: To have efficacy, you've got to have evidence. And then
Speaker 7: I think that's kind of that moment when you go, Okay,
Speaker 7: we're contending. Is there anything we can do to right?
Speaker 7: Maybe go from good to great. I've always used the
Speaker 7: metaphor if you let's just say you're a pro golfer,
Speaker 7: you've been in a while, you find yourself in the mix
Speaker 7: on Sunday at Augusta and you're hitting the ball. Well, right,
Speaker 7: you're and let's losk back like I'm the caddy golf
Speaker 7: of your caddying is hitting the ball, you're striking it,
Speaker 7: you get past a man corner, it's a tight race,
Speaker 7: you're within striking distance. But there's evidence that you know
Speaker 7: what today we're striking it. Well, we probably all dream
Speaker 7: of that green jacket. Why don't we go for it today?
Speaker 7: So there's an element or risk, maybe that par five
Speaker 7: or you're gonna try to land it in two make
Speaker 7: the eagle. There's risk in that, but there's an element
Speaker 7: of also it's calculated because there's evidence that right you're
Speaker 7: striking the ball, well, this might be the time to
Speaker 7: make that move to take that shot. And then you
Speaker 7: see what happens and.
Speaker 2: Is it a timing thing?
Speaker 1: Because thinking about you said breakthrough year to me, I
Speaker 1: guess your breakthrough year because you were the GM before
Speaker 1: Sean came in. It was probably Sean's first year. That's
Speaker 1: like the first like dream year. Like you guys did
Speaker 1: way better than expected. You obviously get the championship. But
Speaker 1: then in this build, which our friend Jordan likes to
Speaker 1: call sprint rebuild. Back in the day, you know sprint rebuild.
Speaker 2: It's been a I.
Speaker 7: Can say this. I've been trying to tell her that
Speaker 7: was a retool, what was a remodel?
Speaker 6: Refuses to use the word rebuild.
Speaker 7: I mean we had Matthew Stafford.
Speaker 2: You can't rebuild with the sprint.
Speaker 7: But she refuses to go remodel. She's gonna always keep
Speaker 7: rebuilding there. Stubbornness right here.
Speaker 2: It's good for it's good for the branding.
Speaker 1: And so as this version kind of like the two
Speaker 1: point zero Stafford version, you know, you get get a
Speaker 1: little closer each year, You've gotten a little closer to
Speaker 1: the end. Is that part of the timing of taking
Speaker 1: these big swings this offseason? Because when we talked to
Speaker 1: you at this very set a year ago, you know,
Speaker 1: you had two first picks coming up, used them in
Speaker 1: surprising ways, both of them. But now now you're using
Speaker 1: picks back to how you used to.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think interestingly, to start the off season, what
Speaker 7: we really wanted to do is, let's call it, we
Speaker 7: wanted to weaponize our corner room, right, bring some reinforcements in,
Speaker 7: improve that room. So that's what we did with the
Speaker 7: twenty ninth pick, and we in sil and signing Jalen
Speaker 7: as teammate. We could have stopped there and probably had
Speaker 7: a successful off season in terms of right making a
Speaker 7: couple moves to solidify what we our top priority. Then
Speaker 7: as as the off season went on, that I call it,
Speaker 7: that opportunity for Miles presented itself, and that's when we
Speaker 7: a lot of times in the league, you get an opportunity,
Speaker 7: you're going to take advantage of her or not. So
Speaker 7: that's what we.
Speaker 6: Did on Jalen and Trent.
Speaker 5: When I'm out here at practice, and there's been a
Speaker 5: couple of really great practices when I watched them from
Speaker 5: the back of the end zone, sort of that all
Speaker 5: twenty two look on the defense. They move so well together,
Speaker 5: they have this understanding of where each other is, even
Speaker 5: as far away on the field as they might be,
Speaker 5: And it kind of brought me back to when you
Speaker 5: guys were scouting Jared Versus and Brandon Fisk, and obviously
Speaker 5: Jared is in Cleveland now, but you were looking at
Speaker 5: sort of that chemistry element to sort of fast track
Speaker 5: some of the innate things that have to happen for players.
Speaker 5: I know they're really great football players veterans already, but
Speaker 5: was there any sort of Hey, they already know how
Speaker 5: to play together, you know what.
Speaker 7: I think that's beneficial. How that compounds over the season,
Speaker 7: time will tell. But it was coincident. I mean, it
Speaker 7: was coincidental that we signed both and let's just say
Speaker 7: we if we couldn't have traded for Trent, we might
Speaker 7: have just signed Jalen without Trent. But it worked out
Speaker 7: this way. So it is going to be interesting to
Speaker 7: see how right their chemistry, their time together, right, those
Speaker 7: energy vibes that they have, how it does compound as
Speaker 7: they go through it because they're both learning something new
Speaker 7: as well.
Speaker 1: When I think about this team build too, now, it's
Speaker 1: so tight end heavy. We talked a lot about, you know,
Speaker 1: the schematics of the tight ends with Sean, But I'm curious,
Speaker 1: did you go into this draft thinking, you know, you
Speaker 1: take Max Clayer at tight end in the second round.
Speaker 1: Did you go in thinking that that was a position
Speaker 1: you could wind up taking pretty high in this draft
Speaker 1: despite what most people from the outside looking in would
Speaker 1: be like, they have a lot of depth there at
Speaker 1: that position.
Speaker 7: Yeah, we we were intentional about coming away with a
Speaker 7: tight end that we felt like we could draft and
Speaker 7: if he had to play this year he could because
Speaker 7: play it. So I'll walk it through, thirteen personnel. You're
Speaker 7: going to have four up on game day, yep, So
Speaker 7: we needed a fifth. That would be someone that you
Speaker 7: felt like was a contribute right, could be a three
Speaker 7: if he had to be a three, right, But so
Speaker 7: we drafted him to be that fifth. And then what
Speaker 7: happens on game day if you don't if you don't
Speaker 7: have four up, and then you have only three up
Speaker 7: and one goes down and you, let's just say fifty
Speaker 7: percent of the game plans thirteen, you just lost fifty
Speaker 7: percent of that week's game plan. So that happened a
Speaker 7: little bit last year as we were run because that's
Speaker 7: that's a lot of players at one position.
Speaker 2: That is just showing where what your priority is on
Speaker 2: some level.
Speaker 7: No doubt. So we can't We knew whether it was
Speaker 7: going to be second round, but we knew somewhere along
Speaker 7: the way, probably with one of our second or third
Speaker 7: round picks, because if we only had the six after that,
Speaker 7: so you probably you're probably rolling the dice if you, oh,
Speaker 7: we'll get our we'll get a contributing tied end in
Speaker 7: the sixth.
Speaker 5: The ripple effect of that, to me we're still seeing
Speaker 5: not just locally but around the league, like what that
Speaker 5: ripple effect will be internally. Here, I'm realizing that this
Speaker 5: is really the first time that your defense has had
Speaker 5: a chance to truly rep against this many of that
Speaker 5: type of look but also mixing in eleven and twelve
Speaker 5: and all of those things in season last year when
Speaker 5: you guys are pivoting to this personnel, defense is still
Speaker 5: practicing at scout getting ready for the game. So are
Speaker 5: you watching, are you noticing a difference or a more
Speaker 5: of like even a spatial or personnel awareness this defense
Speaker 5: getting this many reps. They're gonna get looks like this
Speaker 5: all year as people start to try.
Speaker 7: To people because there's definitely, yeah, the gaps, the spacing
Speaker 7: gets a little bit, uh, the geometry is a little
Speaker 7: bit let's call it wider. Yeah, Uh so that that
Speaker 7: does it could possibly uh let's call it widen some
Speaker 7: of the running lanes. So and here's what's going to happen.
Speaker 7: You know, all teams are not gonna want to get
Speaker 7: run on in thirteen personnel, so they're going they probably
Speaker 7: spent the offseason right coming up with an iteration to
Speaker 7: try to let's call it cut some of those those
Speaker 7: lanes down and mess with the geometry. That's the that's
Speaker 7: the cool part about this league. Where as Sean Sean
Speaker 7: will be the first admit, thirteen could work and then
Speaker 7: all of a sudden it's shut down and you got
Speaker 7: to figure out what's next.
Speaker 2: We had Byron young on earlier.
Speaker 1: He's grown a lot as a player, you know, entering
Speaker 1: a contrack here, Kobe Turner growing a lot of as
Speaker 1: a player. Entering a contract in most cities, like they
Speaker 1: would kind of be a big story of like, oh,
Speaker 1: they're actually not holding out here. They both said they're happy.
Speaker 1: They're just you know, looking forward. What sort of priority
Speaker 1: do you have on getting either or both of those
Speaker 1: guys done?
Speaker 7: I think it's with a lot of players, those two,
Speaker 7: I mean many others if you look at whose contract
Speaker 7: expiring next year, after next season, So there's an element
Speaker 7: always go we communicated with them, gave them, you know,
Speaker 7: our plans, there's an intent to it and going through that.
Speaker 7: It's always it's not comfortable per se, but they're good
Speaker 7: football players. There's a patience to it. It's going to
Speaker 7: work out. It's just a matter of win for them.
Speaker 7: But you got to give those players credit right to
Speaker 7: be able to compartmentalize. Hey, maybe I'd like to open
Speaker 7: the Christmas present a year early, but maybe you might
Speaker 7: not get that chance, and you still got to go
Speaker 7: through it. So that's a to them just as human
Speaker 7: beings and competitors.
Speaker 5: I have been dying to ask you this since uh
Speaker 5: camp starts, since really you traded for for miles? But
Speaker 5: is there anything you know about him now that you
Speaker 5: didn't know before?
Speaker 7: You know what that? Here's what I would say, not necessarily,
Speaker 7: haven't gotten the knowing that well yet, But it is
Speaker 7: interesting when you you, let's call it, you see him
Speaker 7: at Texam, you play against him every now and then
Speaker 7: you watch him on film, But to then see him
Speaker 7: come work day in and day out, there's uh, I
Speaker 7: think that three D, four D whatever you call a
Speaker 7: real human being, there's there's a wow factor there to
Speaker 7: write what mom, dad, you know, God gifted him with
Speaker 7: and how he's using it?
Speaker 1: No doubt, do you think about Seattle when you're making
Speaker 1: these miss like specifically.
Speaker 7: Uh, I don't think you ever. Just let's call it
Speaker 7: a choir player for two games a year, uh three?
Speaker 2: Maybe three?
Speaker 1: Maybe just the matchup of it of like how it's
Speaker 1: kind of work. I'm just curious that.
Speaker 7: Is so, But there's an but you're definitely aware of
Speaker 7: your division's that's priority one. If you can win your division, right,
Speaker 7: you check a box and you host the game and
Speaker 7: you're in the tournament. But really, I think the way
Speaker 7: we do it is what are we trying to accomplish,
Speaker 7: and then try to right, try to acquire the players
Speaker 7: that can execute what we're trying to accomplish. But now
Speaker 7: with that, there is probably an element of bleeding into
Speaker 7: all of this. Of all, right, you're going to be
Speaker 7: playing those teams in our division twice a year, so
Speaker 7: a lot of your defense or offenses to score against
Speaker 7: them and score against them and stop them from scoring.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean, I think people who somehow still underrate
Speaker 5: the NFC Western are dead wrong because it's been an
Speaker 5: incubator for football the way football is going for so
Speaker 5: many years. It's it's McVeigh and shanahan, and then it's
Speaker 5: Mike McDonald coming up and showing how his defense and
Speaker 5: the way he uses the safeties and some of these
Speaker 5: front structures and how he can try to neutralize any
Speaker 5: of the personnel that these other two division opponents and Cardinals,
Speaker 5: you know, with some of their thirteen will throw at
Speaker 5: them and then Sean McVay and Kyle Shannon they try
Speaker 5: to solve it. And it's like these collisions I think
Speaker 5: are teaching them all a lot. Now. They probably don't
Speaker 5: think of it like this. They probably all want to
Speaker 5: just rip each other's heads off. But you know, I
Speaker 5: think it's cool.
Speaker 7: There's tech, you know what, not just it's there's some
Speaker 7: tactical right intent there when they get in the ring
Speaker 7: and spor with each other.
Speaker 2: Wouldn't it just be nice to just be in the
Speaker 2: AFC South one year or something.
Speaker 7: NFC South, you better watch what you say, because all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, the division that you think wasn't strong
Speaker 7: and strong best. The neat thing about this.
Speaker 1: Legal I thought you were going to say you better
Speaker 1: watch what you say because Liam Cohen might be listening.
Speaker 1: I immediately thought, oh, I should have said NFC South
Speaker 1: because AFC South it's legit.
Speaker 2: He takes lights, No, I don't take.
Speaker 1: But as we're wrapping up, we're finishing the show right now,
Speaker 1: aren't you proud of Jordan? Oh my god, how far
Speaker 1: she's come. You know, that's part of your development tree too,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm in hell.
Speaker 7: You know what, she's a rock star.
Speaker 5: No, no, I hear I heard through the grapevine. I
Speaker 5: am supposed to write your obituary. That's an assignment. I
Speaker 5: didn't know I had, so thanks thanks for handing me
Speaker 5: that I.
Speaker 7: Got to hit on me. I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: Hopefully, hopefully that.
Speaker 7: She's done a really good j job of Probably I
Speaker 7: would say what we do is really boring, but she's
Speaker 7: done a really really good job of going, Wow, they
Speaker 7: do some cool stuff there.
Speaker 1: Thank you to Jordan rod Rigg. Thank you to lesneed
Speaker 1: Let's get out of here. We are going to be
Speaker 1: live Jordan and I doing some news talking a little
Speaker 1: bit after the Hall of Fame game on Thursday night,
Speaker 1: So join us live on YouTube. That's going to be
Speaker 1: around eight pm Eastern time. We'll have some news, we'll
Speaker 1: play a game. Thank you to Lesneve. Thank you to
Speaker 1: Sean McVay, of course, Byron Young and Kevin Dotson.
Speaker 2: We'll see you next thing.