WEBVTT - Epilogue: The Other Roosevelts

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<v Speaker 1>History Versus is a production of I Heart Radio and

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<v Speaker 1>Mental Flaws. Theodore Roosevelt was many things, a writer, a rancher,

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<v Speaker 1>a president, but above all, he was a family man.

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<v Speaker 1>Tira was exceptionally close to and dearly loved his family.

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<v Speaker 1>As he wrote in his autobiography, a household of children,

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<v Speaker 1>if things go reasonably well, certainly makes all other forms

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<v Speaker 1>of success and achievement lose their importance by comparison. It

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<v Speaker 1>may be true that he travels farthest who travels alone,

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<v Speaker 1>but the goal thus reached is not worth reaching. Tira

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't one to continually gush about his family members, but

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<v Speaker 1>he made it clear that they truly were the most

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<v Speaker 1>important part of his life. I'm your host Aaron McCarthy,

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<v Speaker 1>and in this bonus episode of History Versus, a podcast

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<v Speaker 1>from Mental Floss and I Heart Radio about how your

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<v Speaker 1>favorite historical figures faced off against their greatest foes, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>be covering all the other Roosevelt's that we didn't get

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about in detail in season one. Let's start

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<v Speaker 1>with TR's older sister, Anna Roosevelt Cowles, or as she's

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<v Speaker 1>more commonly known, Baby Baby, was born on January and

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<v Speaker 1>had a curvature of the spine that caused a small hump.

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<v Speaker 1>She required years of therapy in order to walk. According

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<v Speaker 1>to historian Betty Boyd Caroli, Baby was so often on

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<v Speaker 1>the go that her family gave her yet another nickname, Bye,

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<v Speaker 1>as in Bye Baby. With her endless energy, keen mind,

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<v Speaker 1>and outstanding work ethic, Baby was a studying force for

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<v Speaker 1>her family to rally around and rely on throughout her

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<v Speaker 1>entire life. As soon as she was old enough, she

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<v Speaker 1>managed the Roosevelt household and was sort of a third

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<v Speaker 1>parent to her younger siblings, Theodore, Elliott, and Karn. According

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<v Speaker 1>to the Theatore Roosevelt Center, Baby's maturity made her seem

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<v Speaker 1>like one of the grown ups when they were all young.

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<v Speaker 1>That impression never really wore off for Tire, and Baby

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<v Speaker 1>continued to advise and assist him when he was a

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<v Speaker 1>grown up himself. She decorated his room in the boarding

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<v Speaker 1>house at Harvard and even had a hand in planning

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<v Speaker 1>his first honeymoon when Tier and his first wife, Alice,

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<v Speaker 1>spent a few days after their marriage at the Roosevelt's

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<v Speaker 1>rented Long Island estate. Kathleen Dalton writes that Baby had

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<v Speaker 1>ordered all their meals ahead of time and arranged everything

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<v Speaker 1>with the three servants who cared for them. When Tierra

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<v Speaker 1>began his career in politics, Baby lent an ear, dolled

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<v Speaker 1>out advice, and helped him make political connections. And when

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<v Speaker 1>his brother, Eliot's made Katie Mann said that Elliott had

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<v Speaker 1>gotten her pregnant, a scandal that, if exposed, Tierra believed

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<v Speaker 1>would threaten his political chances. It was Baby who helped

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<v Speaker 1>Tier avoid a lawsuit. Baby married late in life to

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<v Speaker 1>a Navy officer named William Sheffield Cowles and moved to

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<v Speaker 1>Washington around the same time her brother was elected Vice president. There,

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<v Speaker 1>her home became what Tier would call the Other White House.

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<v Speaker 1>He visited often and consulted with Baby on political appointments

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<v Speaker 1>and maneuvers. Baby's health declined as she aged, and she

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<v Speaker 1>spent her final years with her husband in Connecticut, plagued

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<v Speaker 1>by arthritis, back aches, deafness, and deteriorating eyesight. She passed

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<v Speaker 1>away in nineteen thirty one at the age of seventy six,

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<v Speaker 1>but there was one vital bit of TR's legacy that

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<v Speaker 1>she saw to before she died. In eighteen ninety nine,

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<v Speaker 1>Baby sold the house where she tr and their other

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<v Speaker 1>siblings have been born, and various stores and restaurants would

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<v Speaker 1>go on to occupy the site after he died. In

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen nineteen, younger sister Karin led the Women's Roosevelt Memorial

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<v Speaker 1>Association in raising funds to buy back the site and

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<v Speaker 1>transform it into a memorial. Together, Bamy and Karin had

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<v Speaker 1>it reconstructed exactly as they remembered it, complete with family portraits, heirlooms,

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<v Speaker 1>and original furniture or replicas. The Roosevelt House opened on

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<v Speaker 1>Tierra's birthday in ninety three, and the National Park Service

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<v Speaker 1>took it over forty years later, renaming it the Theodore

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt Birthplace National His or Excite Today, the house that

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<v Speaker 1>Baby so skillfully ran in her youth stands as a

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<v Speaker 1>monument not only to TR's legacy, but Baby's two Tier's

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<v Speaker 1>younger sister, Karin, was a high spirited, mercurial woman who

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<v Speaker 1>devoted herself to him unwaveringly. While Tr looked up to

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<v Speaker 1>Baby as an advisor and a role model, Karn was

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<v Speaker 1>more of a buddy. According to Dalton, tr sought out

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<v Speaker 1>Karin's company when he felt soulful or needed unambivalent praise

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<v Speaker 1>or just playfulness. Karin's education consisted of private tutoring and

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<v Speaker 1>a stint at Miss Comstock School in Manhattan, much of

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<v Speaker 1>which she attended with her neighbor, Edith Kurmit Carrow. Edith,

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<v Speaker 1>of course, would later become tor second wife. Karin herself

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<v Speaker 1>married a boisterous, wealthy Scottish born real estate broker named

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<v Speaker 1>Douglas Robinson, a relative of former President James Monroe. Karin

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<v Speaker 1>sobbed through her engagement, but she didn't dare break it off,

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<v Speaker 1>and the energetic, socially active couple turned out to be

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<v Speaker 1>surprisingly well matched. They had four children, Two served in politics,

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<v Speaker 1>and one authored a book that talked about his child

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<v Speaker 1>hood at Sagamore Hill. The family was not without tragedy.

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<v Speaker 1>Their youngest son, Stewart, died at nineteen years old when

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<v Speaker 1>he accidentally fell from a window at Harvard. Throughout her

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<v Speaker 1>adult life, Karin split her time between poetry, politics, and parties.

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<v Speaker 1>Her first poem, The Call of Brotherhood, was published in

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<v Speaker 1>Scribner's magazine in nineteen eleven, and she followed it up

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<v Speaker 1>with several poetry books. Her friends and fellow writer Edith

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<v Speaker 1>Wharton encouraged and edited some of her work Karin also

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<v Speaker 1>hosted lavish parties at the family's estate in West Orange,

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<v Speaker 1>New Jersey. It was at one of these parties that

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<v Speaker 1>Franklin Roosevelt asked a girl to dance his distant cousin, Eleanor,

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<v Speaker 1>who was Karin's niece and would later become Franklin's wife.

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<v Speaker 1>In September nineteen eighteen, Karin's husband passed away unexpectedly of

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<v Speaker 1>heart disease at age sixty three, and she lost Theodore

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<v Speaker 1>just a few months later in January. The sudden death

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<v Speaker 1>of her beloved brother shook Karin to her or life

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<v Speaker 1>would always have glamor, enchantment, inspiration, and delight as long

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<v Speaker 1>as he lived, she said, and now he has gone.

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<v Speaker 1>From that point until her own death in nineteen thirty

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<v Speaker 1>three from pneumonia, Karin's life was essentially a tribute to

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<v Speaker 1>tr She worked with the Roosevelt Memorial Association, penned many

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<v Speaker 1>heartfelt poems about him, and published a memoir titled My

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<v Speaker 1>Brother Theodore Roosevelt. In Karnn threw herself into politics, backing

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<v Speaker 1>presidential candidates whom she felt what uphold Tire's vision for

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<v Speaker 1>the country. In nineteen twenty, she endorsed General Leonard Wood

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<v Speaker 1>at the Republican National Convention. She also served on President

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<v Speaker 1>Calvin Coolidge's advisory committee during his n campaign. Tr Son

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<v Speaker 1>Ted Junior summarized his aunt's dedication to tr in his diary.

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<v Speaker 1>She has talked so much about him that I really

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<v Speaker 1>believe she is more or less convinced that she is

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<v Speaker 1>he now. While Karin had processed her grief over Tier's

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<v Speaker 1>death very publicly, his second wife, Edith, did her best

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<v Speaker 1>to bury hers for the sake of her remaining family.

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<v Speaker 1>I am dead, but no one but you, dearest Karin,

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<v Speaker 1>must know that. She wrote in March nine, nineteen, just

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<v Speaker 1>a few months after Tier's death, I'm fighting hard to

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<v Speaker 1>pull myself together and do for the family, not only

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<v Speaker 1>my part, but also Theodores. Edith kept busy by volunteering

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<v Speaker 1>for the Women's National Republican Club and the Needlework Guild,

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<v Speaker 1>and took trips to Europe, Asia, Africa, and South America.

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<v Speaker 1>She wasn't exactly a political activist, but she did encourage

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<v Speaker 1>women to vote after the nineteenth Amendment was passed, and

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<v Speaker 1>she spoke out in support of Herbert Hoover when he

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<v Speaker 1>ran against Franklin Roosevelt. According to the Theatre Roosevelt Center,

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<v Speaker 1>this was partly to clarify that Roosevelt wasn't her son,

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<v Speaker 1>as some Americans had assumed. As Sylvia Jukes Morris writes

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<v Speaker 1>in her biography of Edith, the former First Lady was

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<v Speaker 1>by nature reclusive and sedentary, and she had to fight

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<v Speaker 1>all the harder to be socially and culturally active. But

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<v Speaker 1>fight she did with courage that Theodore himself would have admired.

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<v Speaker 1>She frequently attended parties in Oyster Bay and even braved

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<v Speaker 1>Manhattan for concerts and operas. Between all her traveling, volunteering,

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<v Speaker 1>and keeping up with friends and family, Edith guided how

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<v Speaker 1>Tier was remembered in the eyes of the public. Not

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<v Speaker 1>only did she destroy many of their love letters, she

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<v Speaker 1>also had a lot of say and deciding which documents

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<v Speaker 1>got passed on to historians. It's for this reason that

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<v Speaker 1>some scholars, including Michael Cullinane, who we spoke to in

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<v Speaker 1>previous episodes of this podcast, consider Edith the true gatekeeper

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<v Speaker 1>of Tier's legacy. She was the gatekeeper of Sagamore Hill too.

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<v Speaker 1>After Tier died, his eldest son Ted had intended to

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<v Speaker 1>take over the estate and raise his family there. Edith, however,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't plan on moving. She wanted Sagamore Hill to be

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<v Speaker 1>a center for the whole family, and eventually allotted a

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<v Speaker 1>few acres of land to Ted so he could build

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<v Speaker 1>his own home. He did, and these days it's known

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<v Speaker 1>as the Old Orchard Museum. Edith lived at Sagamore Hill

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<v Speaker 1>for the rest of her life and died there on

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<v Speaker 1>September at the age of eighty seven. She's buried at

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<v Speaker 1>Young's Memorial Cemetery with her husband. Now let's move on

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<v Speaker 1>to the Roosevelt kids. Edith and Theodore's oldest son, Ted

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<v Speaker 1>the Third, or Ted Jr. Technically followed his father into politics,

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<v Speaker 1>but his path there was roundabout, and his defining legacy

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<v Speaker 1>was mostly a military one. After graduating from Harvard in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen o nine, Ted worked for a carpet company and

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<v Speaker 1>then an investment banking firm. After World War One broke

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<v Speaker 1>out in Europe in nineteen fourteen, he planned for the

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<v Speaker 1>inevitability of US involvement by helping to organize a training

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<v Speaker 1>program in Plattsburgh, New York, which marked the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>his lifelong passion for military service. In April nineteen seventeen,

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<v Speaker 1>the US entered the war, and Ted immediately commissioned major

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<v Speaker 1>was among the first soldiers sent to France. His wife,

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<v Speaker 1>Eleanor Butler Alexander left their children with Edith and set

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<v Speaker 1>off for France as well, where she ran a y

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<v Speaker 1>m c A, organized volunteers, and taught French to American soldiers.

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<v Speaker 1>The press lauded Ted as an adept, heroic leader, and

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<v Speaker 1>so did his father. Our pride even surpasses our anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>tr wrote, I walk with my head higher because of you.

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<v Speaker 1>A bullet to the knee during a nineteen eighteen battle

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<v Speaker 1>would keep Ted away from the front lines for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the war, and he soon set his sights

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<v Speaker 1>on public service. Throughout the nineteen twenties and thirties, Ted

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<v Speaker 1>held a number of positions, including New York Assemblyman, Assistant

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<v Speaker 1>Secretary of the Navy, governor of Puerto Rico, and Governor

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<v Speaker 1>General of the Philippines. He also spearheaded the establishment of

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<v Speaker 1>the American Legion, ran for Governor of New York but

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<v Speaker 1>didn't win, and eventually settled into a vice presidency at

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<v Speaker 1>the publishing house Double Day Dorin. When the US got

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<v Speaker 1>involved in World War Two, a middle aged, Ted was

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<v Speaker 1>undeterred by his heart problems or the arthritis that forced

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<v Speaker 1>him to walk with a cane. He enlisted, was promoted

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<v Speaker 1>to brigadier general, and fought in Algeria. In Italy, he

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<v Speaker 1>was accompanyed by his son Quentin, named for Ted's younger brother,

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<v Speaker 1>who had died during World War One and had been

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<v Speaker 1>buried in France. Then came d day. Ted led the

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<v Speaker 1>troops onto Utah Beach, earning a Medal of Honor for

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<v Speaker 1>his valor. He survived, but a month after the battle,

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<v Speaker 1>while still in France, Ted died of a heart attack.

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<v Speaker 1>He was buried in the Normandy American Cemetery in France.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fifty five, at the request of the Roosevelt family,

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<v Speaker 1>his brother Quentin's remains were relocated to rest there too.

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<v Speaker 1>We'll be right back in. Ted Jr. Published All in

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<v Speaker 1>the Family, a memoir with many colorful anecdotes from the

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt's childhood. One of them really captures the spirit of

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<v Speaker 1>his younger brother, Kermit. When father read to us, we

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<v Speaker 1>all interrupted him continually with questions, but Kermit was by

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<v Speaker 1>far the worst offender. Ted wrote one why bred another

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<v Speaker 1>so quickly? In his mind? That soon reading almost stopped.

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<v Speaker 1>Kermit's insatiable curiosity only strengthened as he got older, and

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<v Speaker 1>in a way, his whole life was a quest to

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<v Speaker 1>learn as much as he possibly could. He accompanied his

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<v Speaker 1>father on both the legendary African Safari of nineteen o

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<v Speaker 1>nine and the life threatening journey along Amazon's River of

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<v Speaker 1>Doubt in nineteen thirteen and fourteen. Without his father, he

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<v Speaker 1>globe trotted around places like Asia, the Indies, and the

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<v Speaker 1>Galapagos Islands, exercising his penchant for picking up languages along

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<v Speaker 1>the way. He could speak or read almost ten including Portuguese, Swahili, Arabic,

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<v Speaker 1>and Greek. Kermit built an impressive resume. He authored several

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<v Speaker 1>books and countless articles about his adventures, and he also

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<v Speaker 1>wrote book reviews and essays about his father. He also

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<v Speaker 1>worked at a bank in Buenos Aires and founded his

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<v Speaker 1>own steamship company. He commanded British forces during World War

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<v Speaker 1>One and later helped bring about the modern US Merchant Marine.

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<v Speaker 1>He fathered four children with his wife, Belle Wyatt Willard.

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<v Speaker 1>He was president of the National Association of Audubon Society

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<v Speaker 1>what would later become the Audubon Society, and he even

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<v Speaker 1>rubbed shoulders with Gertrude Stein and William Butler Yates. But

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<v Speaker 1>as Edmund Morris wrote in his book Colonel Roosevelt, Kermit's

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<v Speaker 1>nomadic nature and marvelous talent for languages fought against the

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<v Speaker 1>confinements of marriage and work. Depression steadily claimed him. He

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<v Speaker 1>became a philanderer and insatiable drinker, and as his body thickened,

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<v Speaker 1>developed a startling resemblance to his father. Kermit fought with

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<v Speaker 1>British forces again at the beginning of World War Two,

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<v Speaker 1>but he was soon sent home because of his weak heart.

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<v Speaker 1>He started drinking again, thinking military service would do him good.

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<v Speaker 1>His wife and younger brother, Archie, asked then President Franklin

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<v Speaker 1>Roosevelt to commission him in the American Army. He was

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<v Speaker 1>sent to Alaska, where he helped to organize a militia,

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<v Speaker 1>but the assignment wasn't the studying force his family had

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<v Speaker 1>hoped for. In June nine, Kermit took his own life.

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<v Speaker 1>His mother, eighty one at the time, was told that

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<v Speaker 1>he had died of a heart attack. Kermit is buried

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<v Speaker 1>at the Fort Richardson National Cemetery in a garage, Alaska,

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<v Speaker 1>m in TR's own words, his fourth child, Ethel was

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<v Speaker 1>a jolly, naughty, wacky baby, too attractive for anything, and

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<v Speaker 1>thoroughly able to hold her own in the world. Ethel

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't too attractive to rough house with her siblings, though,

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<v Speaker 1>As Edward J. Renahan Jr. Writes in his book The

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<v Speaker 1>Lions Pride Theodore Roosevelt and his family In Peace and War,

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<v Speaker 1>Ethel was a wild tomboy who spent her early years

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<v Speaker 1>swinging from trees with her brothers, running relay races, rowing

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<v Speaker 1>on Oyster Bay, and riding a succession of favorite horses.

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<v Speaker 1>But as she got older, Ethel became the reserved, responsible

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<v Speaker 1>daughter that her impulsive older sister Alice never was. While

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<v Speaker 1>tr called Alice his liability child, he praised Ethel as

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<v Speaker 1>the asset child. She stood beside her mother on White

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<v Speaker 1>House receiving lines. She taught Sunday school to less fortunate children.

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<v Speaker 1>In nineteen fourteen, World War One gave Ethel the opportunity

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<v Speaker 1>to devote herself to all tier work full time. She

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<v Speaker 1>had just married surgeon Richard Derby, and the two both

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<v Speaker 1>treated wounded soldiers at the American Ambulance Hospital in France,

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<v Speaker 1>years before the United States officially entered the Fray. Much

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<v Speaker 1>like her grandfather, the Ethel was committed to humanitarianism. After

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<v Speaker 1>the war, she supported a number of causes, many of

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<v Speaker 1>which were based in or around Oyster Bay, where she

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<v Speaker 1>lived with her husband and children. She volunteered for the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Cross and pushed for affordable housing for African Americans

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<v Speaker 1>in the area. She was an active member of both

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<v Speaker 1>her church and the local nursing service, and she also

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<v Speaker 1>became a trustee of New York's American Museum of Natural History,

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<v Speaker 1>an institution her grandfather had helped found. The Ethel pursued

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<v Speaker 1>her own charitable passions, she still made time to further

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<v Speaker 1>her father's conservation efforts and solidify the Roosevelt legacy in

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<v Speaker 1>Oyster Bay, and we can thank Ethel for the preservation

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<v Speaker 1>of Sagamore Hill too. She helped establish the house as

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<v Speaker 1>a National Historic Site after her mother died there in

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<v Speaker 1>eight Ethel lived in Oyster Bay until her death in

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen seventy seven at six. She's buried in Young's Memorial Cemetery.

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<v Speaker 1>While all of the Roosevelt children treated the White Houses

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<v Speaker 1>their playground in one way or another, a few of

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<v Speaker 1>Archibald's antics were especially memorable. It was little Archie who

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<v Speaker 1>smuggled a Christmas tree into the White House in nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>o two, and his shet limpony Algonquin reportedly rode the

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<v Speaker 1>White House elevator to visit him while he was recovering

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<v Speaker 1>from the measles the following year. Archi, atr second youngest son,

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<v Speaker 1>had inherited his father's sense of adventure and uncanny lack

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<v Speaker 1>of fear. His younger brother, Quentin, was his sidekick in

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<v Speaker 1>the White House and beyond. As Mars wrote in Colonel Roosevelt,

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<v Speaker 1>the two brothers were as different as Huck Finn and

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<v Speaker 1>Tom Sawyer. Quentin was easy going and uncompetitive, whereas tears

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<v Speaker 1>Aid called Archie the pugnacious member of the family. He

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<v Speaker 1>takes up the cudgel at every chance, the Aid wrote,

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<v Speaker 1>Archie's favorite companion may have been Quentin, but his personality

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<v Speaker 1>mirrored his older brother at Juniors in many ways. So

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<v Speaker 1>did his career. Like Ted, Archie worked for a carpet

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<v Speaker 1>company after graduating Harvard and was wounded in France during

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<v Speaker 1>World War One. After the war, Archie spent a few

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<v Speaker 1>years in the oil industry before founding his own investment firm.

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<v Speaker 1>His success kept his wife Grace and there are four

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<v Speaker 1>children from failing the worst of the Great Depression. But

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<v Speaker 1>Archie abandoned the comfort of his office to join the

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<v Speaker 1>American effort in World War Two. He fought in New

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<v Speaker 1>Guinea and suffered wounds to the same arm and leg

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<v Speaker 1>that had been shattered in World War One. Though Archie

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<v Speaker 1>survived the war, he never completely recovered. He had always

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<v Speaker 1>been politically conservative, but his postwar years were characterized by

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<v Speaker 1>paranoia and conspiracy theories about communism. He eventually retired to Florida,

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<v Speaker 1>where he died in nineteen seventy nine after a stroke.

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<v Speaker 1>Archie was eight five years old. During his last days,

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<v Speaker 1>at least, it seems like the ravages of war fell away,

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<v Speaker 1>and he returned instead to happy memories of his boyhood

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<v Speaker 1>in New York. I'm going to Sagamore Hill, he kept repeating.

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<v Speaker 1>And finally, we have Alice, or as she was known

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<v Speaker 1>in d C. The Other Washington Monument. In the End,

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<v Speaker 1>Alice Roosevelt Longworth, whom we covered at length in a

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<v Speaker 1>previous episode, outlived all of her half siblings. She was

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<v Speaker 1>Tire's oldest and arguably wildest child, the only one from

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<v Speaker 1>his first marriage. She died in nine eighty at age

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<v Speaker 1>ninety six, and she's buried in Washington, d C. With

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<v Speaker 1>her daughter, Paulina. We'll be back in a couple of

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<v Speaker 1>weeks with another bonus episode of History Verses. History Verses

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