1 00:00:06,120 --> 00:00:11,880 Speaker 1: Obligations. We all have obligations, don't we In life. If 2 00:00:11,920 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: you're a husband, do you have an obligation lead your family, 3 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:20,639 Speaker 1: provide for your family. You're a wife, you have obligations right, 4 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: take care of the home, care of the kiddos to 5 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:28,240 Speaker 1: We all have obligations. You have obligations. At work, you 6 00:00:28,320 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: have a job you have to do. Your boss as 7 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: obligations as well. He needs to provide you compensation for 8 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:38,879 Speaker 1: the job. Citizens of a nation, they have obligations. You 9 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: and I we have obligations, right, We have obligations to 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:46,479 Speaker 1: follow the law, most of them. The nation itself has 11 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:51,560 Speaker 1: obligations too, though the nation has obligations. When you sign 12 00:00:51,680 --> 00:00:57,400 Speaker 1: up to fight for your country, you have signed a contract. 13 00:00:57,920 --> 00:01:02,200 Speaker 1: You now have an obligation. Even in times when you're scared, 14 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:06,959 Speaker 1: don't want to go, somebody needs fought on behalf of 15 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: your nation, you are obligated to go. Do so. But 16 00:01:10,920 --> 00:01:14,640 Speaker 1: but there's an obligation that goes the other way as well. 17 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: Your leaders, the people who are in charge, the people 18 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,160 Speaker 1: behind the scenes, sitting in the air conditioning, moving the 19 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:29,200 Speaker 1: chess pieces around, they have obligations too. One of the 20 00:01:29,240 --> 00:01:34,199 Speaker 1: most base obligations the leaders have for the warriors out there. 21 00:01:34,200 --> 00:01:42,080 Speaker 1: Fighting and bleeding is competency. You are owed competency. You're 22 00:01:42,080 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 1: not owed much, and you don't get much as a warrior. 23 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:46,479 Speaker 1: You know what you get as a warrior. You get 24 00:01:46,520 --> 00:01:49,720 Speaker 1: crappy food. You get to see the world. Sure, yeah, 25 00:01:49,760 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: so I not see the world, all the bad parts 26 00:01:51,640 --> 00:01:53,280 Speaker 1: of it. You know where I saw. You know what 27 00:01:53,320 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I saw when I was in the Marine Corps. I 28 00:01:55,200 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 1: saw deserts all over the place. I saw the jungles 29 00:01:58,520 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 1: of Thailand pick and leeches off my body. And I 30 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 1: saw the Iraqi desert, in the desert in Kuwait. That 31 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: was a really lovely tour of the world. So you're 32 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,440 Speaker 1: out there, You're out there in the misery, with the 33 00:02:09,480 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 1: crappy food and the crappy weather and the crappy locations. 34 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,080 Speaker 1: You go for months on end. You don't get to 35 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:19,800 Speaker 1: talk to a girl. It's all male units, right, The 36 00:02:19,840 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: beds aren't soft. Life's tough. Okay, good, It's part of 37 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: what makes you being a warrior. But but at least 38 00:02:27,960 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: in the back of your mind, at least in the 39 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,920 Speaker 1: back of your mind, you have some sort of assurance 40 00:02:34,639 --> 00:02:42,200 Speaker 1: that the people who lead you are functional adults. I 41 00:02:42,280 --> 00:02:45,200 Speaker 1: probably should not have looked at the pictures that are 42 00:02:45,200 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 1: coming out now of the dead Marines, the dead sailor 43 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:53,400 Speaker 1: from that horrible explosion in Afghanistan. I'm doing the best 44 00:02:53,440 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 1: I can to keep myself as even keeled and calm 45 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,880 Speaker 1: as possible. Lost it a little bit last night, as 46 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:01,920 Speaker 1: you saw on the first I am angry if I 47 00:03:01,960 --> 00:03:05,680 Speaker 1: could show you the text messages I have from marine 48 00:03:05,760 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: friends of mine veterans and currently serving, from Army rangers, 49 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,600 Speaker 1: from a bunch of Green berets, I know a couple 50 00:03:12,600 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: of Navy seals. That community is torn up terribly, and 51 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:19,839 Speaker 1: it's a different kind of torn up because we've all 52 00:03:19,880 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: we all understand named you're getting killed or something like that, 53 00:03:23,480 --> 00:03:26,040 Speaker 1: that's part of the job. It's obviously a terrible part, 54 00:03:26,080 --> 00:03:29,880 Speaker 1: but it's part of the job. But there's getting killed, 55 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: and then there's getting killed when you feel like it 56 00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:39,280 Speaker 1: wasn't justified, when you feel like it was someone else's fault, 57 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: a mishap, a mistake, an intentional wrong, whatever the case 58 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 1: may be. When you feel like that life is gone 59 00:03:48,600 --> 00:03:54,200 Speaker 1: now and shouldn't be, there's an extra hurt and extra 60 00:03:54,320 --> 00:03:58,160 Speaker 1: anger that comes with that, and that's what I'm seeing 61 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: all over the place right now now from the men 62 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: who have fought for this country. It's really, really, really 63 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 1: bad out there right now. There is a feeling that 64 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: the leadership of the military is at best, at best inept, 65 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:21,000 Speaker 1: and at worst complicit. There is a feeling out there 66 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,799 Speaker 1: right now that the commander in chief is not only 67 00:04:26,200 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 1: not a person who genuinely cares, they don't feel like 68 00:04:29,120 --> 00:04:33,280 Speaker 1: he genuinely cares about the troops, the American citizens. They 69 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 1: all watched that press conference yesterday. When the President of 70 00:04:36,120 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: the United States of America speaks, especially in the wake 71 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: of something terrible happening, everybody watches. They all watched that 72 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: press conference yesterday, and they didn't see a functional adult. 73 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:50,360 Speaker 1: How in the world if you're a mother and you 74 00:04:50,480 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 1: got a phone call yesterday that your twenty year old 75 00:04:53,560 --> 00:04:58,800 Speaker 1: son marine he just got incinerated in Iraq, the worst 76 00:04:58,800 --> 00:05:02,080 Speaker 1: phone call in the world, and then you hear the 77 00:05:02,120 --> 00:05:06,040 Speaker 1: President of the United States of America step up, give 78 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:10,479 Speaker 1: some marble mouth, glass eyed speech and finish it like this, 79 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: How in the world are you supposed to feel about 80 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:22,600 Speaker 1: your son's death? Thank you, May God bless you all. 81 00:05:22,720 --> 00:05:25,400 Speaker 1: May God protect us troops and all those standing watch 82 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: for America. We have so much to do within our 83 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 1: capacity to do it. We just have to remain steadfast, steadfast. 84 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:47,920 Speaker 1: We will complete our mission, and we will continue after 85 00:05:48,440 --> 00:05:53,000 Speaker 1: our troops have withdrawn to find means by which we 86 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: defined Any American who wishes to get out of Afghanistan, 87 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:05,160 Speaker 1: we will find them. We will get them out. Ladies 88 00:06:05,200 --> 00:06:10,159 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, gave me a list here. The first person 89 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 1: I was instructed to call on was Kelly o'donald NBC. 90 00:06:18,520 --> 00:06:23,320 Speaker 1: That's the commander in chief, That's the man at the top. 91 00:06:24,720 --> 00:06:28,799 Speaker 1: That's what I have to hear as a father hearing 92 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:33,520 Speaker 1: that my son just died. Wife somewhere has to watch 93 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: the news and see that's the commander in chief, the 94 00:06:36,600 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 1: man making the decisions or making the decisions after my 95 00:06:40,640 --> 00:06:44,760 Speaker 1: son just got got killed in Afghanistan. Does that seem 96 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: like the nation is fulfilling its obligations to the warriors 97 00:06:49,880 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 1: or does it seem like the nation has completely abandoned 98 00:06:53,440 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 1: the people who fight for it. And by the way, 99 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:58,679 Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of this in the past couple 100 00:06:58,680 --> 00:07:00,599 Speaker 1: of days, and if I have to you this one 101 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:03,400 Speaker 1: more time, my head is just gonna pop off. I've 102 00:07:03,400 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: seen a lot of people saying, do you really have 103 00:07:05,440 --> 00:07:07,840 Speaker 1: to give it to the media? Boy, they've finally been 104 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 1: holdened Biden. They've been holding him to task that they've 105 00:07:11,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 1: really been going after him about Afghanistan. No, the president 106 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 1: of the United States of America, just hang on, just 107 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: kinda look through some stuff, all right, they gave they 108 00:07:24,760 --> 00:07:30,160 Speaker 1: gave me a list I've been instructed on. That's how 109 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: he went to his first question. Why is that reporter? 110 00:07:35,040 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 1: Who here's the president talking like that I was instructed 111 00:07:38,280 --> 00:07:41,360 Speaker 1: to call on? Why does that reporter then ask some 112 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,200 Speaker 1: random question. Don't even pretend to be a reporter. When 113 00:07:45,200 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: you're a reporter and you hear the president say I 114 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:55,440 Speaker 1: was instructed to call your response is instructed by whom? 115 00:07:55,440 --> 00:08:00,040 Speaker 1: Mister president? Mister president, are you not in charge? You 116 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,440 Speaker 1: are the chief executive that you were elected, you're the 117 00:08:03,480 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: commander in chief, and you just said you were instructed? 118 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 1: Mister President, I'm sorry, I have to ask God to 119 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:13,840 Speaker 1: set my question aside. Could you please elaborate for all 120 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: of America in the world, who's instructing you, who's running 121 00:08:19,520 --> 00:08:23,160 Speaker 1: the country, And don't the families of those dead marines 122 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: and that dead sailor and those dead soldiers, don't they 123 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,040 Speaker 1: don't they deserve to know, don't they deserve to know 124 00:08:32,360 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: who's running the United States of America. This cannot continue, 125 00:08:38,840 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 1: This cannot continue. And thank God for Peter Doocey, twelve 126 00:08:44,080 --> 00:08:47,559 Speaker 1: marines are dead. You said, the buck stops with you. 127 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:51,320 Speaker 1: Do you bear any responsibility for the way that things 128 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:54,840 Speaker 1: have unfolded in the last two weeks? I bear responsibilities 129 00:08:54,840 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: for fundamentally all that's happened of late. But here's the deal. 130 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:04,120 Speaker 1: You know, I wish you one day say these things. 131 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:08,080 Speaker 1: You know as well as I do that a former 132 00:09:08,120 --> 00:09:12,360 Speaker 1: president made a deal with the Tally Bond if he 133 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: would get all American forces out of Afghanistan by May one. 134 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:21,640 Speaker 1: In return, the commitment was made, and that was a 135 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 1: year before. In return, he was given a commitment if 136 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:30,880 Speaker 1: the Tally Bond would continue to attack others, but would 137 00:09:30,920 --> 00:09:38,040 Speaker 1: not attack any American forces. Remember that. I'm being serious. Now, 138 00:09:38,520 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: I'm asking you a question, because before, no, no, no, 139 00:09:42,640 --> 00:09:45,040 Speaker 1: wait a minute, I'm asking you a question. Is is 140 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: that accurate the best of your not what I think. 141 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 1: That's our commander in chief. That's our commander in chief. 142 00:10:06,000 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: Finally stepping up to the microphone to speak hours after 143 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:13,360 Speaker 1: our people were dead. We waited all day for that crap. 144 00:10:14,040 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: Can you believe this is what we've gotten? And remember 145 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: what I've told you about these people, and I meant 146 00:10:20,160 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 1: every single word of it, every time I've said, there's 147 00:10:22,679 --> 00:10:25,600 Speaker 1: no patriotism, not with Joe Biden, not with anyone who 148 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: surrounds him, No patriotism. They're out there yesterday, they're cracking jokes. 149 00:10:32,960 --> 00:10:40,200 Speaker 1: Thank a few more questions, And but you, sir, I 150 00:10:40,240 --> 00:10:44,400 Speaker 1: wanted to ask you, you say that. Wait, wait, wait, wait, 151 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: let me take the one question from the most interesting 152 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:56,079 Speaker 1: guy that I know in the press. That's you. It's fun, right, 153 00:10:56,240 --> 00:10:59,320 Speaker 1: I was interesting. I'm just poling around. It's a great day, 154 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: just the press conference. Because they don't care. I mean, 155 00:11:03,080 --> 00:11:04,840 Speaker 1: you see it all over the place. They genuinely do 156 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:08,319 Speaker 1: not care. Not a single person in this administration shed 157 00:11:08,320 --> 00:11:10,640 Speaker 1: a tire last night, like so many of my veteran 158 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,440 Speaker 1: brothers did for the people who died over there. Not one. 159 00:11:13,600 --> 00:11:15,959 Speaker 1: It's all just political to them, just trying to weather 160 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,400 Speaker 1: this storm. Wait till those poll numbers start to creep 161 00:11:18,440 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: back up. Oh but remember the buck stops there. He 162 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:26,040 Speaker 1: takes all responsibility right except for when he doesn't. And 163 00:11:26,160 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: the tactical questions of how to conduct an evacuation or 164 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: a war. I gather up all the major military personnel 165 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:40,720 Speaker 1: that are in Afghanistan, the commanders as well as the Pentagon, 166 00:11:41,960 --> 00:11:47,640 Speaker 1: and I asked for their best military judgment what would 167 00:11:47,679 --> 00:11:53,520 Speaker 1: be the most efficient way to accomplish the mission. They 168 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:59,960 Speaker 1: concluded the military the Bagram was not much value, add 169 00:12:00,360 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: that it was much wiser to focus on Couple and 170 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: so I followed that recommendation. Buck stops there, right, Buck 171 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:16,200 Speaker 1: definitely stops there. And in case you were wondering if 172 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:22,400 Speaker 1: there's some kind of end to the ineptitude in this administration, 173 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:26,320 Speaker 1: you realize we have Afghan allies over there who fought 174 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:29,000 Speaker 1: with us for twenty years. You know, the Taliban are 175 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:31,559 Speaker 1: still going door to door trying to find these people 176 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:34,000 Speaker 1: so they can skin them alive and chop their heads off. 177 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:38,040 Speaker 1: And you also understand, not only do we give the 178 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:42,199 Speaker 1: Taliban a list of the names of our Afghan allies, 179 00:12:42,480 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 1: the President of the United States of America didn't even 180 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:52,880 Speaker 1: bother denying it when asked. Having occasions when our military 181 00:12:53,040 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 1: is contacted their military counterparts in the Taliban and said this. 182 00:12:58,080 --> 00:13:01,760 Speaker 1: For example, this bus is coming through with X number 183 00:13:01,760 --> 00:13:04,920 Speaker 1: of people on it made up of the following group 184 00:13:05,000 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: of people. We want you to let that bus or 185 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:12,319 Speaker 1: that group through. So, yes, there have been occasions like that, 186 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,679 Speaker 1: and to the best of my knowledge, in those cases, 187 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 1: the bulk of that has occurred. They've been let through. 188 00:13:21,200 --> 00:13:24,840 Speaker 1: But I can't tell you with any certitude that there's 189 00:13:24,840 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: actually been a list of names. I know't There may 190 00:13:26,880 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 1: have been, but I know of no circumstances. Doesn't mean 191 00:13:29,360 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 1: it's not it didn't exist that here's the names of 192 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:35,800 Speaker 1: twelve people they're coming. Let them through. It could very 193 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 1: well have happened. Definitely seems like he's the commander in chief, right, 194 00:13:40,400 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 1: how's a really firm grip on what's going on in 195 00:13:42,400 --> 00:13:48,199 Speaker 1: this country right now? Obligations, we're not fulfilling our obligations 196 00:13:48,240 --> 00:13:51,920 Speaker 1: to our warriors. This cannot continue. All that may have 197 00:13:51,960 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: made you uncomfortable, but I'm right. We got a great 198 00:13:54,760 --> 00:13:57,120 Speaker 1: show on Afghanistan and Night coming up next. We've got 199 00:13:57,160 --> 00:14:06,760 Speaker 1: a former army ranger. He has thoughts them here. Did 200 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: the president, based on his probably comments over the last 201 00:14:09,520 --> 00:14:13,360 Speaker 1: few days, did the President see this coming? Well? I 202 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:16,000 Speaker 1: think what you have seen the presidents say, and many 203 00:14:16,080 --> 00:14:18,920 Speaker 1: members of our military and our national security teams say, 204 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: is that we have been closely watching and assessing the 205 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 1: threat of isis K, and that we have had increasing 206 00:14:24,640 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: concern about that threat growing over the last couple of days. 207 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: So this has been a concern that we have been watching, 208 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: and we saw, of course, the tragic events happened today. 209 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 1: Joining me now to talk about that idiocy and several 210 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:44,000 Speaker 1: other things is Tom Amenta. He's a former army ranger. 211 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:46,640 Speaker 1: Inasmuch as it pains me to say it, that probably 212 00:14:46,680 --> 00:14:49,160 Speaker 1: means he knows more about taking airports than anyone else 213 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 1: in the world. Is also the co author of a 214 00:14:51,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: board a book, the Twenty Year War. Tom Okay, they 215 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: were warned, they were warned, and I get a bunch 216 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 1: of political speech from this while we get under advisement. 217 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: We certainly heard it. What does that actually mean? Because 218 00:15:03,880 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 1: now I have people dead. Well, let's go all the 219 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:09,040 Speaker 1: way back, because right now what we're watching with this 220 00:15:09,120 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: administration is a stunning in real time. If you don't 221 00:15:13,200 --> 00:15:15,720 Speaker 1: learn from history or destined to repeat it. What I 222 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:18,560 Speaker 1: talked to you, all of your viewers, all of your audience, 223 00:15:18,600 --> 00:15:21,680 Speaker 1: and I say, October third and fourth, nineteen ninety three, 224 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: everyone goes blackhawk down. You know exactly what it is. Well, 225 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,480 Speaker 1: what most people don't realize is that about two weeks 226 00:15:27,480 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 1: after that, Asama bin Laden, then the pledgling leader of 227 00:15:30,520 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: this little tiny thing known as al Qaida, released what 228 00:15:33,320 --> 00:15:36,040 Speaker 1: he called the paper Tiger Doctorate, and in it he says, 229 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:40,920 Speaker 1: if we can make Americans see themselves bleed on CNN, 230 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 1: they will fold like a paper tiger. And then he 231 00:15:44,720 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: tried to bombs embassies. Nothing. Then we bombed the uss 232 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: POL nothing. Finally it was nine to eleven, and then 233 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:54,480 Speaker 1: we reacted. So what we're seeing right now in real 234 00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: time is we leave Bagram, which, by the way, you 235 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: think two more air field air airstrips wouldn't be really 236 00:16:01,040 --> 00:16:05,240 Speaker 1: handy right now because I do nothing now isis hey 237 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:08,160 Speaker 1: does this and we're getting these Oh well, we were 238 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 1: watching it or we were monitoring it like this is 239 00:16:10,920 --> 00:16:18,000 Speaker 1: literally history repeating itself in real time administration, and it's appauling. Tom. 240 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 1: Will you please explain for people who don't understand. I 241 00:16:20,760 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 1: explained a bit of it yesterday on my radio show. 242 00:16:24,040 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 1: The difference in security between an airport, you know, Cobble 243 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: Airport and Bogram. The reason why isis can pull this 244 00:16:31,400 --> 00:16:33,560 Speaker 1: off at a place like Cobble and not a place 245 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:36,480 Speaker 1: like Bogram. Well, the one thing that I would say 246 00:16:36,520 --> 00:16:38,800 Speaker 1: is no security for something that's a fixed point like 247 00:16:38,920 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: that is absolute. But in the case of Bagram, we've 248 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: been there since the absolute very beginning. That is the 249 00:16:45,080 --> 00:16:46,800 Speaker 1: closest thing that we are ever going to have the 250 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,440 Speaker 1: home field advantage in all of Afghanistan is Bagram Airfield. 251 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 1: It's two sites. We always controlled it. I mean I 252 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: used to run around that thing in O two and 253 00:16:55,480 --> 00:16:57,720 Speaker 1: oh four to get my PT in Like we know 254 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:02,440 Speaker 1: that ground better than anything. In the case of Carzi International, 255 00:17:02,560 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 1: one you have the civilian side and then two you 256 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:08,040 Speaker 1: have the military side, so already you have a lack 257 00:17:08,240 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: of full control. Then you're in a much much densely, 258 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:14,840 Speaker 1: more densely populated area in the sense that it's smacked 259 00:17:14,920 --> 00:17:16,480 Speaker 1: up in the middle of the city. Take a look 260 00:17:16,480 --> 00:17:19,119 Speaker 1: at the map. Whereas Bogram does have some scandoff, you 261 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: can control access to it in a much more efficient 262 00:17:21,840 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: and effective manner. Tom, I'm gonna play you this John 263 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 1: Kirby sound bite, and I'm still I'm still wrapping my 264 00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: mind around the reality of it. Here's Kirby of isis K. 265 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 1: How many isis K prisoners who are left at Bagram 266 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:41,280 Speaker 1: and are believed to have been released from the prison there, 267 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 1: and why weren't they removed before the US pulled out 268 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,720 Speaker 1: to someplace like Geitmo. Well, Um, I don't know the 269 00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 1: exact number. Clearly it's in the thousands. When when you 270 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:56,800 Speaker 1: when you consider both prisons, because both of them were 271 00:17:57,359 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 1: taken over by the Taliban and emptied. But I I 272 00:18:00,200 --> 00:18:04,919 Speaker 1: couldn't give you a precise figure. Definitely seems like they 273 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: have a good hand on things. I just want to 274 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:09,600 Speaker 1: clarify this for everybody listening. We had a bunch of 275 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: isis guys in our hands and then we just left 276 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 1: Bogram and what we just left them some playing cards 277 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,760 Speaker 1: and food and water. Tom, is that what we did? 278 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 1: I think we left him the keys so they could 279 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:24,560 Speaker 1: just open up the doors and waltz out Like I mean, 280 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: this is one. This is one of those points that 281 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:28,159 Speaker 1: myself and a lot of other veterans and a lot 282 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: of other guys that have done the job I used 283 00:18:30,520 --> 00:18:33,320 Speaker 1: to do, have all been like some things are worse 284 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:35,879 Speaker 1: than others, right, Jesse, like, you know, you make a 285 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: mistake and sometimes you can walk it back. They just 286 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:43,200 Speaker 1: let a decade like the post Asama bin Laden. You know, 287 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:45,200 Speaker 1: how are we going to do this eight decade worth 288 00:18:45,320 --> 00:18:48,359 Speaker 1: of people that weren't quite the worst of the worst 289 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:51,040 Speaker 1: to get themselves dropped in the GITMO, but certainly bad 290 00:18:51,160 --> 00:18:52,960 Speaker 1: enough that we don't ever want them on the streets again. 291 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:54,639 Speaker 1: So we threw them in a dark hole, you know, 292 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:58,359 Speaker 1: and locked it up out. And then the other thing 293 00:18:58,400 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: that I find is fascinating is this administration continues to 294 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,760 Speaker 1: rely on the Taliban for American security, which is a 295 00:19:03,800 --> 00:19:06,160 Speaker 1: whole other thing that could be its own twenty minute segment. 296 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: We are now listening to the Taliban trying to spend 297 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:11,280 Speaker 1: their own pr of like, oh yeah, we didn't sanc 298 00:19:11,560 --> 00:19:14,880 Speaker 1: these guys. Now, iis k and the Talbon don't particularly 299 00:19:15,000 --> 00:19:17,320 Speaker 1: like each other. But are we really surprised the enemy 300 00:19:17,320 --> 00:19:19,480 Speaker 1: of my enemy is my friend right now because I'm not. 301 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:27,560 Speaker 1: Why don't they like each other? Oh? So that's one 302 00:19:27,680 --> 00:19:31,520 Speaker 1: part control of the organization, you know, of the country 303 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: and the Talibon, one part access to the money, the opium, 304 00:19:35,280 --> 00:19:39,240 Speaker 1: the illicit activities. There another part of just the radicalization 305 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:42,760 Speaker 1: and the evolution of the mutation of what they believe 306 00:19:42,880 --> 00:19:45,520 Speaker 1: that they claim as Islam, which if you followed that 307 00:19:45,560 --> 00:19:48,040 Speaker 1: at religion for all thirty seconds to realize it absolutely isn't. 308 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:51,800 Speaker 1: It's those ideals. It really spoils down to control what 309 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 1: we explained the opium angle. I think a lot of 310 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,879 Speaker 1: people they maybe have seen a snippet or two of 311 00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: it on the Internet, but they don't really truly understand. 312 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,720 Speaker 1: Tom please explain. So if you go all the way 313 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: back to two thousand and one, one of the biggest 314 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,240 Speaker 1: sort of subtexts there is that roughly eighty five percent. 315 00:20:09,400 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: I think I've got that set right. I've double checked it, 316 00:20:11,320 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: but well over eighty percent of the world's opium all 317 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: came out of Afghanistan. Afghanistan has no cash crops with 318 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: the speak of it's incredibly poor, significantly under the poverty line, 319 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:23,879 Speaker 1: and it's major form of financial revenue, quite frankly, was 320 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 1: through the opium trade. And the new wrinkle to that, 321 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:29,880 Speaker 1: and the even worst thing, and they're not even being 322 00:20:30,119 --> 00:20:32,200 Speaker 1: cute or trying to hide this, by the way, is 323 00:20:32,480 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 1: the major transit for that now is through Hakani network 324 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,960 Speaker 1: in tribal regions of Pakistan. There are already pictures all 325 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,240 Speaker 1: over the internet a matter back one went viral, or 326 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:43,000 Speaker 1: someone's like, oh, look at the five to eleven hat 327 00:20:43,040 --> 00:20:45,920 Speaker 1: on this guy. They're trying to pretend like they're Americans. Hahaha. 328 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: He's guarding Hakani. They're in a Taliban meeting right there. 329 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,840 Speaker 1: It's absurd, like you have two of the world's biggest 330 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 1: problematic drug traffickers in a room at the same time 331 00:20:58,680 --> 00:21:01,119 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, yes, we're one hundred percent work together, 332 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 1: all right. This book, The Twenty Year War A chronicles 333 00:21:07,600 --> 00:21:10,359 Speaker 1: seventy one veterans of the war in Afghanistan. Look, I 334 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: never stepped foot in Afghanistan. I was an Iraq guy. 335 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:15,720 Speaker 1: You were the floor jers for a minute. What are 336 00:21:15,760 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: you going through at the moment. So, actually, the books 337 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:20,879 Speaker 1: people all across the global war on terror. We've got 338 00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,160 Speaker 1: some people in Afghanistan, some people that went to Iraq 339 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,800 Speaker 1: like you did, did both, some more of the Africa stuff. 340 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,680 Speaker 1: You know, It's it's really for everyone. It's a beautiful 341 00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,399 Speaker 1: portrait book. It's right there. There's the capitalist in me. 342 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,520 Speaker 1: How am I feeling right now? I'm upset and I'm 343 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:40,720 Speaker 1: upset because I can't understand why the administration continues to 344 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 1: make the decisions that it does, and why it continues 345 00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:46,480 Speaker 1: to try and repeat history in the worst way on 346 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: earth that led to the deadliest attack in American history, 347 00:21:49,440 --> 00:21:54,040 Speaker 1: because that's exactly what they're doing. And I don't understand why. 348 00:21:56,359 --> 00:21:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't know whether he's not listening to his advisors, 349 00:21:58,760 --> 00:22:03,320 Speaker 1: whether he is not paying attention. I don't get it. 350 00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:05,879 Speaker 1: And that's I'm just upset, Like I'm just angry at 351 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,040 Speaker 1: this point. It's like, how how much do you all 352 00:22:08,080 --> 00:22:09,960 Speaker 1: of the people that know what's going on have keep 353 00:22:10,040 --> 00:22:13,360 Speaker 1: spitting and screaming into the wind, or maybe he kind 354 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: of listens, or can we at least get him to 355 00:22:16,480 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: like not do a press conference the way that he 356 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,720 Speaker 1: did yesterday, Because here's one other thing for a jesse 357 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 1: that I don't think, actually, I know people don't understand. 358 00:22:24,160 --> 00:22:25,440 Speaker 1: Let me put this rout there because this is the 359 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: thing that makes me the angriest I think the most 360 00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: vile thing this administration is doing. And I don't say 361 00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 1: that lately. You notice how every single time they say 362 00:22:33,240 --> 00:22:36,640 Speaker 1: every American who wants to leave, like it's will get 363 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: everyone who want out, who wants to leave like hear 364 00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: that all the time, Right, you want to know why 365 00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:44,800 Speaker 1: saying that? Because and I right now, in real time, 366 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 1: I am trying to get a man who's got an 367 00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:50,760 Speaker 1: American passport out is sixteen year old brother. Okay, that 368 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,480 Speaker 1: man was under the impression that his sixteen year old brother, 369 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,480 Speaker 1: a child, the only family that he has, could not 370 00:22:57,680 --> 00:23:00,639 Speaker 1: get out with him on his American passport. So right now, 371 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: there are hundreds of Americans trying to make that exact 372 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:07,679 Speaker 1: same choice, and the administration is using that technicality as 373 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: this convenient way to abdicate the eventual responsibility that they're 374 00:23:11,359 --> 00:23:14,879 Speaker 1: going to have when all Americans don't come home because 375 00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,760 Speaker 1: I can't. I'm the oldest of four, Okay. I joined 376 00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,280 Speaker 1: the military in part nineteen ninety nine to get college 377 00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: money because I knew my parents at that time didn't 378 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,159 Speaker 1: have the money for all four of us to go 379 00:23:25,240 --> 00:23:27,240 Speaker 1: to school. Right, I stepped up. That's what an older 380 00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:31,160 Speaker 1: brother does. Right now, You've got older brothers, You've got fathers, 381 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:34,840 Speaker 1: You've got sons that can't that are having to make 382 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 1: the choice of leaving on their American documents and possibly 383 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:41,840 Speaker 1: condemning their family to die, or staying with their family 384 00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:44,440 Speaker 1: to try and find another way and them possibly dying 385 00:23:44,480 --> 00:23:49,240 Speaker 1: with them as well. That is absurd, That is disgusting. 386 00:23:50,240 --> 00:23:52,520 Speaker 1: That is so lacking in the basic humanity of what 387 00:23:52,600 --> 00:23:54,919 Speaker 1: America is supposed to be. And I don't understand why 388 00:23:54,920 --> 00:23:59,560 Speaker 1: the administration is using that as this frankly political gudil 389 00:23:59,640 --> 00:24:02,600 Speaker 1: jail card in the press. Oh well, everyone wants to go. No, 390 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:05,199 Speaker 1: everyone wants to go. You're just forcing someone into an 391 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: impossible choice. Yep, tom My, brothers up to five, Thanks brother, 392 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:16,879 Speaker 1: you too, Jim Lavin Army officer coming up next. Thing on. 393 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: And so there's a lot of reasons why they have 394 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: reached out and fused to us but to others as 395 00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:35,840 Speaker 1: to why it would be continued in their interest to 396 00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 1: get more of the personnel we want to get out. 397 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: We can locate them now, there's not many left that 398 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:46,720 Speaker 1: we can assess that are want to come out. Getting 399 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: every single person out is can't be guaranteed anybody, because 400 00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:58,400 Speaker 1: there's a determination all who wants to get out as well. Sure, 401 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:00,040 Speaker 1: there are lots of people who want to stay in 402 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: Afghanistan right now joining me now six year Army officers 403 00:25:03,800 --> 00:25:05,760 Speaker 1: served in the Coal Board. Jim Layman he's also a 404 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:11,080 Speaker 1: US Senate candidate in Arizona. Jim, people love Afghanistan. Shoot, 405 00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 1: they just want to stay there forever, haven't you heard? Yeah, Jesse, 406 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:19,879 Speaker 1: this is what happens when politicians that are awoke in 407 00:25:20,080 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: elite try to interface with our military. You know, we've 408 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: got great leaders on the ground. I can't say so 409 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 1: much for our generals, but turning this operation over to 410 00:25:29,280 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 1: the State Department when danger is imminent at the gates 411 00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: and these brave marine stood there knowing that this could 412 00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: possibly happen. Just can't imagine what those guys are going 413 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,560 Speaker 1: through when their leadership was told to back off and 414 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:48,800 Speaker 1: let this operation be run by the State Department. This 415 00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:55,280 Speaker 1: is just total incompetence, Jesse, at the highest level. So 416 00:25:55,400 --> 00:25:59,800 Speaker 1: they as you said, as a past paratrooper, an officer, indicist, 417 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: Erican citizen, I grieve for those are loss a lives. 418 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:05,679 Speaker 1: He's brave young men along with their parents. And it's 419 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: up to people in a country like myself that have 420 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,159 Speaker 1: to step up and take back this country to get 421 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 1: it back to where American pride. But also just we 422 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:18,359 Speaker 1: run operations like this through elite military and not woke 423 00:26:18,480 --> 00:26:24,159 Speaker 1: generals and state departments and people like Biden, Jim, how 424 00:26:24,240 --> 00:26:28,840 Speaker 1: do we get this infection of social justice warrior woke 425 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,359 Speaker 1: crap out of the military, Because it's not like this 426 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 1: is some PFC somewhere. It's the highest levels. The highest 427 00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,000 Speaker 1: levels they're saying this up, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, 428 00:26:38,240 --> 00:26:41,280 Speaker 1: Defense Secretary, every one of them on down. That is 429 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: cultural rot all the way to the top. That's going 430 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,119 Speaker 1: to take time to get rid of. We saw this 431 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,359 Speaker 1: starting in Obama administration when he came in, as we 432 00:26:51,520 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 1: have all heard and understood from some of those great 433 00:26:54,600 --> 00:26:59,520 Speaker 1: generals that were retired without their own doing and then 434 00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 1: put in the East type of generals that we see today, 435 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:07,879 Speaker 1: This milky and this all stun even blinking over at 436 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: the State Department. You know, this is sending all of 437 00:27:11,119 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: the wrong signals to our bigger enemy, Communist Chinese Party. That, Jesse, 438 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:21,479 Speaker 1: is why I'm stepping into the arena as a veteran 439 00:27:21,560 --> 00:27:24,480 Speaker 1: and as a successful businessman. We have got to start 440 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:28,000 Speaker 1: curing this rot, and we've got to get back to 441 00:27:28,160 --> 00:27:32,520 Speaker 1: American exceptionalism. This is a very dangerous time we live in, 442 00:27:33,080 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: this wokeism and teaching our at the General Staff College 443 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:40,680 Speaker 1: and of course, we even heard Milky talking about going 444 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:44,200 Speaker 1: through with the troops on CRT. You know, our military 445 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:46,600 Speaker 1: is set up and should be to be the most 446 00:27:46,760 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 1: lethal on the planet, so that our enemies see that 447 00:27:50,520 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 1: and understand that, not to have operations like the disaster 448 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,600 Speaker 1: we're seeing in Afghanistan. What's it like to jump out 449 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:04,119 Speaker 1: of a plane? The first one, h Jesse is a 450 00:28:04,160 --> 00:28:08,080 Speaker 1: little audacious, particular as an officer. You're first in line 451 00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,240 Speaker 1: and stick your hands are out there airplane on the 452 00:28:12,320 --> 00:28:16,359 Speaker 1: sides your feet or halfway out, you're waiting on that 453 00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:20,240 Speaker 1: tap on the butt to go, and you're about a 454 00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:22,360 Speaker 1: couple of minutes out from the drop zone and you're 455 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,479 Speaker 1: looking down and saying, how the hell did I get here? 456 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,960 Speaker 1: But the elitoism that comes with that, though, Jesse does 457 00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,240 Speaker 1: teach you, you know, what you can do when you 458 00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: put your mind to it, what the military can do 459 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,760 Speaker 1: when we are set up for elitoism and in accomplishing 460 00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:43,280 Speaker 1: the mission versus having State department people run it, or 461 00:28:43,880 --> 00:28:46,360 Speaker 1: as you said, these these walk generals that we've got 462 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: to take care of them. Jim. One of the hardest 463 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,360 Speaker 1: things I've I've seen recently with all the images coming 464 00:28:52,400 --> 00:28:55,720 Speaker 1: out of Afghanistan. Besides the bomb, in the aftermath of 465 00:28:55,840 --> 00:28:59,400 Speaker 1: that has been the Taliban walking around with m fours, 466 00:28:59,520 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 1: the m VGs. They have secure calms, they have freaking 467 00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,440 Speaker 1: black Hawks. Can you please describe for me how in 468 00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:09,200 Speaker 1: the world we could be this stupid and apt to 469 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 1: arm the people we spent twenty years fighting. Just as 470 00:29:13,440 --> 00:29:16,200 Speaker 1: incredible the incompetence that allowed us to happen. Have you 471 00:29:16,240 --> 00:29:22,160 Speaker 1: look at these guys now have more Blackhawk missile capable 472 00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:26,719 Speaker 1: choppers than eighty percent of the other countries on the planet. 473 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:31,480 Speaker 1: Not only that, Jesse, but just all of the armaments 474 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: and ammunition. As you said, secure communications. I fear heavily, Jesse, 475 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:41,720 Speaker 1: particularly being here in Arizona on the ground with an 476 00:29:41,840 --> 00:29:45,160 Speaker 1: invasion going on our southern border. I mean, these clowns 477 00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,960 Speaker 1: in Washington have an open border. I'm pretty close to 478 00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:51,320 Speaker 1: the border patrol here for a lot of time with 479 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:55,440 Speaker 1: them understanding this issue, because it's a very significant issue 480 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 1: for a country, and I need and I do now 481 00:29:57,680 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: help an understanding out with these border patrol guys. Even 482 00:30:00,520 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: met again with him yesterday to understand it. It is 483 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 1: truly an invasion of just see two million plus we're 484 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:12,680 Speaker 1: own pace for this year, coming directly bused to the border. 485 00:30:13,440 --> 00:30:16,920 Speaker 1: Now we all know eighteen hundred or so terrorists were 486 00:30:17,000 --> 00:30:21,360 Speaker 1: released from prison in Afghanistan in the last few days. 487 00:30:21,400 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: I can only imagine they're held bound for lights to 488 00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 1: Caracas and in Mexico City and getting on the buses. 489 00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,440 Speaker 1: You know, Senator, we have out here now, Mark Kelly, 490 00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 1: he's nowhere to be seen because he's in with all 491 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:39,800 Speaker 1: this cobble of craziness we've got in the administration. Now, 492 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:44,640 Speaker 1: we've got to secure that border, remain in Mexico policy. 493 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:48,920 Speaker 1: Thank gosh, the Supreme Court just stood up. We need Biden, 494 00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:54,000 Speaker 1: Kelly and these guys to get some fortitude and close 495 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: that border immediately. Get to us. Remain in Mexico policy 496 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:01,280 Speaker 1: truly back in place, we sure do. Jim Layman, thank 497 00:31:01,280 --> 00:31:04,240 Speaker 1: you so much. Jim, I appreciate you. Jesu, thank you buddy. 498 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 1: Coming up next, Marine General, we'll right back. Our work 499 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: is not done in Afghanistan. I know we'll be removing 500 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:23,040 Speaker 1: our troops by a certain date. But the bottom line 501 00:31:23,160 --> 00:31:25,800 Speaker 1: is our work is not done. We're gonna have to 502 00:31:25,920 --> 00:31:28,360 Speaker 1: go after Isis. We're gonna have to go back in 503 00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:31,480 Speaker 1: to get Isis we're probably going to go have to 504 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:35,360 Speaker 1: go back in when al Qaida resurrects itself, as they 505 00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 1: will with this Caliban. Okay, that was quite a wake 506 00:31:41,400 --> 00:31:46,320 Speaker 1: up call. Joining me now Representative Jack Bergan of the 507 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 1: United States Marine Coop. I know he represents Michigan now, 508 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:52,240 Speaker 1: but he will always be just a Marine to me. General. 509 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: It's an honor. Once again, thank you so much for 510 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600 Speaker 1: joining me on the show. What exactly does that mean 511 00:31:56,680 --> 00:31:58,400 Speaker 1: we're going to have to go back in? What is 512 00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:01,840 Speaker 1: he talking about? Well, you know, those of us who 513 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 1: served in the Marine Corps understand that before you go 514 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,520 Speaker 1: to the fight, you actually try to figure out where 515 00:32:06,520 --> 00:32:08,080 Speaker 1: the hell you're going to fight and who you're going 516 00:32:08,120 --> 00:32:12,280 Speaker 1: to fight. And the point is we don't see that 517 00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: in this administration. But the idea is that we know 518 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,760 Speaker 1: we went to Afghanistan in two thousand and one because 519 00:32:18,800 --> 00:32:21,920 Speaker 1: that's where bin Laden was hiding. He was recruiting, he 520 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:25,120 Speaker 1: was training, he was executing missions. And the fact of 521 00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:28,400 Speaker 1: the matter is that hasn't changed. Whether it's al Qaeda, 522 00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,880 Speaker 1: whether it's ISIS, whether it's isis K, whether it's Taliban. 523 00:32:32,400 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: The bottom line is we have to make sure that 524 00:32:36,200 --> 00:32:39,560 Speaker 1: by we could reach out and touch these little jerks 525 00:32:40,080 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: all the way around the world, and we can do 526 00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,040 Speaker 1: it quickly, not over the horizon, as our president has 527 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,160 Speaker 1: been saying. Over the horizon isn't going to work. We're 528 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: gonna have to maintain some type of communications with let's say, 529 00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: folks from the Northern Alliance and others and re establish 530 00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,280 Speaker 1: the fact that we need to be able to chout 531 00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:03,760 Speaker 1: and touch the bad guys. Okay, I mean, I hate, 532 00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:06,200 Speaker 1: I hate to major on the minor general, but my 533 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,440 Speaker 1: mind works this way. What does that mean if we 534 00:33:08,560 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: do have to go back in. Let's say we we 535 00:33:10,280 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 1: we get word on somebody three weeks from now on. 536 00:33:13,240 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: Isis we have to go in? How do we do that? 537 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:17,880 Speaker 1: Where do we do that from? Is it? Are we 538 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,200 Speaker 1: stuck in the valley? Is that where we're stuck up 539 00:33:20,200 --> 00:33:22,400 Speaker 1: at the Northern Alliance trying to launch missions from there 540 00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 1: because I don't know where else we're supposed to do it. Well, 541 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:27,960 Speaker 1: let's put it this way. Under the current administration, you know, 542 00:33:28,160 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 1: when you don't know where you're going or how are 543 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: you're going to go there, any road will get you there. 544 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:34,080 Speaker 1: And that's what we've been seeing here the last a 545 00:33:34,160 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: few weeks. I mean, it's it is. I know, I 546 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:42,920 Speaker 1: know that you understand about what I'm about to say, 547 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:50,200 Speaker 1: because we've got too many Biden bureaucrat bunker bunnies making 548 00:33:50,320 --> 00:33:57,080 Speaker 1: decisions for Marines in the fight we do general And 549 00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:59,480 Speaker 1: I'll be frank with you, I know it probably has 550 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: been for you as well. It's been a pretty rough 551 00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,920 Speaker 1: twenty four hours. Now. We have the names coming out 552 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 1: of Marines parish there, obviously a doc parish there, a 553 00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:11,759 Speaker 1: couple couple soldiers parish there, and obviously, as you know, 554 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: dying as part of the profession as part of the profession. 555 00:34:15,640 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: But you at least expect when you're out there bleeding 556 00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:21,360 Speaker 1: and dying and sweating and all these things, that you 557 00:34:21,560 --> 00:34:25,320 Speaker 1: have competent leadership that is at least attempting to do 558 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: right by you. And I don't feel like these Marines 559 00:34:28,480 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: and their families now have that assurance. And it steems 560 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,719 Speaker 1: me to no end. Well, you know you're kinder than 561 00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:40,080 Speaker 1: I am, because I went from second to disgusted to 562 00:34:40,200 --> 00:34:44,080 Speaker 1: basically thoroughly pissed. Because you never send anyone to the 563 00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:48,200 Speaker 1: fight without giving them everything that they need to win. 564 00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 1: And we train, we trained to fight until the end. 565 00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:54,000 Speaker 1: But we don't quit. But we got a bunch of 566 00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,200 Speaker 1: quitters sitting in DC right now who are occupying positions 567 00:34:57,239 --> 00:35:02,280 Speaker 1: of authority. And let's face it, Stay Department has failed 568 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,439 Speaker 1: a businessy for a long time because they're the lead dog. 569 00:35:05,680 --> 00:35:09,080 Speaker 1: DoD is largely in support of a lot of activities, 570 00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: but the State Department since we even went, we're in 571 00:35:13,040 --> 00:35:17,840 Speaker 1: a react when the green zone State Department again bunker 572 00:35:17,840 --> 00:35:22,240 Speaker 1: bunnies refuse to deploy because they said, no, I hired 573 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: onto the State Department to sit behind a desk in DC. 574 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:29,680 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, either step up or get out. Can you 575 00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:32,600 Speaker 1: explain for people who don't understand what that means, how 576 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 1: the differences between DoD in State Department and these drunker 577 00:35:36,239 --> 00:35:38,319 Speaker 1: bunnies like you call them, these people who have never 578 00:35:38,440 --> 00:35:41,279 Speaker 1: left the air conditioning making decision for the people who 579 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,400 Speaker 1: are actually out there on the ground. Can you explain 580 00:35:43,440 --> 00:35:48,480 Speaker 1: the differences? Please? State Department is when you think of 581 00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:53,719 Speaker 1: the first Secretary of State, Thomas Jefferson, by large in 582 00:35:53,880 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: charge of worldwide diplomacy, worldwide operations on behalf of the 583 00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:05,160 Speaker 1: United States government and to ensure that we know what 584 00:36:05,440 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: is going on outside of the embassies in whatever country 585 00:36:08,920 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 1: we're in. State departments its job to be that that 586 00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:20,080 Speaker 1: pointy end of the sphere before the shooting starts. But 587 00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,479 Speaker 1: state department has over the last few decades has lost 588 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,600 Speaker 1: focus on what their mission really is when it comes 589 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:31,000 Speaker 1: to a twenty first century threat that involves the Internet. 590 00:36:31,440 --> 00:36:34,920 Speaker 1: This is not the you know, the Tripoli pirates, if 591 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:40,000 Speaker 1: you will, this is this is twenty first century, very 592 00:36:40,120 --> 00:36:45,760 Speaker 1: serious threat, largely involving the Internet, and largely involving non stationed, 593 00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 1: non nation state actors that don't play by any rules 594 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: that we used to play by, if you will, in 595 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:58,879 Speaker 1: international diplomacy general, I have to play this little clip 596 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:01,360 Speaker 1: from Jensaki and I a boy. I'll tell you what 597 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:03,600 Speaker 1: I watched that press commence yesterday, and I have some 598 00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:07,279 Speaker 1: of these same questions. Two Republican senators so far have 599 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,680 Speaker 1: called on the President to resign over the attacks in 600 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:13,279 Speaker 1: Afghanistan today. What's the White House sister response stuff? I 601 00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,520 Speaker 1: would say, first, this is a day where US service members, 602 00:37:16,600 --> 00:37:19,960 Speaker 1: twelve of them, lost their lives at the hands of terrorists. 603 00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 1: It's not a day for politics, and we would expect 604 00:37:23,239 --> 00:37:27,000 Speaker 1: that any American, whether they're elected or not, would stand 605 00:37:27,080 --> 00:37:30,080 Speaker 1: with us and our commitment to going after and fighting 606 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 1: and killing those terrorists wherever they live, and to honoring 607 00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,200 Speaker 1: the memory of service members. And that's what this day 608 00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,840 Speaker 1: is for general, forgetting just about the incompetence of what 609 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:42,160 Speaker 1: we've seen and how it got our guys killed. The 610 00:37:42,239 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 1: President of the United States of America, please forgive me, 611 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:46,920 Speaker 1: does not seem like a functional adult. That was not 612 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,760 Speaker 1: a fully functional human being at that press conference yesterday, 613 00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:52,560 Speaker 1: and he's the commander in chief. I'm honestly, I'm not 614 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: trying to be a glib about this. I'm not even 615 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: trying to be just right versus left. That human being 616 00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:01,960 Speaker 1: can't lead the United States of America. Let me make 617 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:05,520 Speaker 1: a comment about people who have There are fifty one 618 00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 1: commanders in chief in the United States of America, the 619 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:12,800 Speaker 1: president and fifty governors. They are elected to lead be 620 00:38:12,880 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: the commander in chief of either their state or the country. 621 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:20,239 Speaker 1: Just because you were an elected official, let's say a 622 00:38:20,320 --> 00:38:23,600 Speaker 1: senator or a congressman, that doesn't mean you're a leader. 623 00:38:23,760 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: I mean, we're having the same thing last year and 624 00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:27,759 Speaker 1: a half here in Michigan. We've got a governor that 625 00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:31,359 Speaker 1: was a state senator, but she's really not a leader. 626 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:33,560 Speaker 1: We have the same thing here in the White House. 627 00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:37,120 Speaker 1: And if you remember, not too long ago when Robert 628 00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:41,560 Speaker 1: Gates book came out, talked about how Senator Biden and 629 00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:44,560 Speaker 1: then Vice President Biden has been on the wrong side 630 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:49,200 Speaker 1: of foreign policy decisions almost exclusively during his entire fifty 631 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:53,880 Speaker 1: years in Washington, d C. The only difference now it 632 00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:57,360 Speaker 1: didn't matter when he wasn't in charge. Well, it matters 633 00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: now when he's the president. It matters that he's not 634 00:39:02,600 --> 00:39:04,920 Speaker 1: it does. It matters a lot. And finally, General I 635 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:10,200 Speaker 1: have to ask Millie Austin. I don't know if you 636 00:39:10,280 --> 00:39:12,520 Speaker 1: have history with these guys, it's not my business, but 637 00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,719 Speaker 1: we do have to have some accountability on the military. 638 00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:18,920 Speaker 1: And to write, I mean, military leadership is not exactly 639 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: what we want it to be anymore. This has been 640 00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:25,719 Speaker 1: completely embarrassing top to bottom, not just Joe Biden. Well, 641 00:39:25,840 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: absolutely military. We understand in the military where if you want, 642 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: you can delegate authority down your chain, but you cannot 643 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:40,920 Speaker 1: delegate responsibility. And with that responsibility comes the accountability. General 644 00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,440 Speaker 1: Millie knows that Secretary Austin knows that they need to 645 00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 1: refocus the Defense Department on things like war fighting, not 646 00:39:49,040 --> 00:39:54,960 Speaker 1: critical race theory, not transgender identification modification, all add stuff. 647 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: It's time for the Department of Defense to get its 648 00:39:58,440 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 1: act together when it comes to war fighting. General, thank 649 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:10,920 Speaker 1: you so much. Samprifi ser Semprifi Jesse coming up. We've 650 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:20,440 Speaker 1: got final thoughts. I have a couple I go. It's 651 00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:23,920 Speaker 1: time to pray now. No, I'm not your pastor or 652 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:27,480 Speaker 1: anything like that, but we have dead service members out there. 653 00:40:27,880 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 1: We still have American citizens in harm's way. We have 654 00:40:31,680 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: families getting phone calls, going through a process, a grieving process. 655 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:39,560 Speaker 1: I wouldn't wish on anybody out there. And we let's 656 00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: be honest about it. We have a nation, the nation 657 00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:45,480 Speaker 1: you and I both love, that is in some very 658 00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:50,839 Speaker 1: very very serious trouble right now. We have some sometimes incompetence, 659 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:55,239 Speaker 1: sometimes just flat out bad people leading this country. And 660 00:40:55,440 --> 00:40:58,359 Speaker 1: we are not heading in the wrong direction. We are 661 00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:01,600 Speaker 1: racing in the wrong direction as a nation. So it 662 00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 1: is time to pray. If for no other reason, then 663 00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:08,040 Speaker 1: we need a higher power to come down here and 664 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 1: fix this disaster because we have a mess on our hands. 665 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: So may God be with all those families who are 666 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:18,359 Speaker 1: going through hell right now and every American citizen. We'll 667 00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:18,879 Speaker 1: do it again.