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Speaker 1: Wow, everybody, it is Friday.

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Speaker 2: You know what that means. It's time for another edition

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Speaker 2: of the Stardom Cinnam Show. Glad you can be with us.

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Speaker 2: I am Marcus Grant, joined by Michael Florya, who writes

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Speaker 2: the start SID column. You can find it every week

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Speaker 2: at NFL dot com slash start Sit. Also joined by

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Speaker 2: Lawan Jones, who does not write these Start SID column

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Speaker 2: but he enjoys eating food and that makes him worthy

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Speaker 2: of being on this show. I don't even know what

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Speaker 2: to do with that anymore. Anyway, Florio happened? I mean,

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Speaker 2: how are we feeling twelve weeks into the start SID column.

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Speaker 2: We still have the juice, We still have the energy,

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Speaker 2: especially in a week with the six teams on a buy.

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Speaker 3: This is the time of year where, whether you do

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Speaker 3: or not, you gotta find it because these games are

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Speaker 3: so important for fantasy players, and especially when we get

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Speaker 3: in the fantasy playoffs. Like I take it. I added

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Speaker 3: responsibility there being like if I swing and miss this week,

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Speaker 3: it's gonna cause people their seasons, Whereas like if I

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Speaker 3: swing and missing Week three, who cares as much? You'll

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Speaker 3: you'll have time to bounce back. But yeah, so sorry,

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Speaker 3: to get to the point where like I'm really questioning,

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Speaker 3: like do I actually have it in me to say

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Speaker 3: sit this big name player. Which is why, especially in

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Speaker 3: a week like this, six teams on by little bit

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Speaker 3: less big names in the sitcolumn.

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Speaker 2: It does get a little bit harder to take big

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Speaker 2: swings in these columns this time of the year because

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Speaker 2: all these decisions are so much more important cause.

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Speaker 4: Your DNSI yeah, right, good idea, do it now.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna be rough on you know, on Blue Sky

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Speaker 2: where dms are open, you can't you know.

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Speaker 3: Let yeah, I don't think I've yet to receive a

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Speaker 3: single DM on Blue Sky.

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Speaker 2: The thing that's good there, I got two. Oh that's

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Speaker 2: all you gotta know. Any let's start with the quarterbacks

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Speaker 2: who are starts and sits this week.

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Speaker 3: I Am not going to be the only person to

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Speaker 3: tell you to start Justin Herbert this week, but he's

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Speaker 3: been playing great and has the best matchup a quarterback

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Speaker 3: could have or one of so I would get him

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Speaker 3: in your lineup. Look, I know Jayden almost called him

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Speaker 3: Daydon Daniels Jaden Daniels hasn't been the same as of late,

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Speaker 3: but I do think that mini By was big for

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Speaker 3: him to kind of help his ribs. Plus, Cowboys struggle

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Speaker 3: against the pass and they really struggle against running quarterbacks,

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Speaker 3: so he's in play. Bo Nix was on waiver wires

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Speaker 3: in some leagues. He is a must start fantasy quarterback.

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Speaker 3: I do not understand why people keep overlooking him, but

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Speaker 3: get him in your lineup. And I really like John

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Speaker 3: Stafford this week. I know the Eagles secondary has been tough,

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Speaker 3: but you got his pass catchers there, it could be

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Speaker 3: a high scoring game. And then I got some streamers

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Speaker 3: in Tua, Drake May and my boy Tommy Cutlets. If

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Speaker 3: you're going a little bit deeper, I have Gino Smith

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Speaker 3: as a sit. In the last month, the Cardinals have

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Speaker 3: allowed one passing touchdown. Their secondary is being vastly underrated.

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Speaker 3: Right now, Sam Darnold I have as a sit because

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Speaker 3: the Bears have allowed the fewest passing touchdowns or tied

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Speaker 3: for the fewest touchdowns allowed and the fewest fantasy points

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Speaker 3: allowed to quarterbacks. Anthony Richardson to me is one that

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Speaker 3: like I'm playing him over Donald and Caleb Williams in

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Speaker 3: a league, but it's very option dependent. I don't love

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Speaker 3: it because the lines allow a lot of passing yards

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Speaker 3: mostly because teams are in catchup mode, but they are

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Speaker 3: tied with the Bears for few was passing touchdowns allowed

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Speaker 3: really tough on the run. And then I have Caleb

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Speaker 3: as they sit last week was a step in the

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Speaker 3: right direction, but still sitting around ten fantasy points more

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Speaker 3: often than not. U two, we see a higher fantasy ceiling.

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Speaker 3: There's no way I want to play Caleb Williams, so

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Speaker 3: potentially a game where my season could be on the line.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, look, I think these are all certainly

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Speaker 2: great options. I'm gonna ask you, though, quite about Anthony

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Speaker 2: back to life a little bit. Do you believe and

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Speaker 2: if you look, if he performs well against Detroit, are

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Speaker 4: I think we have to because honestly, what we saw

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Speaker 4: last week was like a really good, good game, Like

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Speaker 4: he hit his fantasy ceiling that we thought he can hit,

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Speaker 4: you know, all summer long. So I'll be buying in

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Speaker 4: if he's going to be running the ball more utilizing

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Speaker 4: the slot with Josh Downs against his Detroit Lions defense

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Speaker 4: he hit him downfield, I think we could see some

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Speaker 4: really big plays from this Colt offense.

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Speaker 2: All right, So we're hopefully, we're hoping that things turn

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Speaker 2: out well for Anthony Richardson. We loved him, it was

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Speaker 2: a struggle. Hopefully he's starting to bounce back a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Let's go to the running backs. Who's up and who's

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Speaker 2: down this week?

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Speaker 3: I think both Pacheco and Kareem Hunt are in play

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Speaker 3: because of the matchup against the Panthers, who are the

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Speaker 3: best matchup for a running back, and the Chiefs should

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Speaker 3: probably be able to run all over them. I have

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Speaker 3: both Tampa Bay Bucks in this one. Rashad White's been

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Speaker 3: And it is a good favorable matchup against the New

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Speaker 3: York Giants. And look, if there's a one two punch

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Speaker 3: outside of Detroit that has been great for fantasy, it

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Speaker 3: is the Commanders. With Brian Robinson Junior and Austin Eckler

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Speaker 3: against the Cowboys. Tyrone Tracy Junior is a strong start

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Speaker 3: for me as well against the Bucks, and then Rico

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Speaker 3: My sits Troupa Hubbard Is and Jonathan Brooks. Obviously if

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Speaker 3: but it's way more because the Kansas City Chiefs are

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Speaker 3: the toughest matchup for a running back. They've allowed by

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Speaker 3: far the fewest rushing yards and fantasy points. I'm trying

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Speaker 3: to wash even in a good matchup this week against

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Speaker 3: the Raiders, I'm trying to wash my hands of this

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Speaker 3: Javonte Williams, but I do not love it. And then

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Speaker 3: Raiders running backs Alexander Madison Zamir White both up in

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Speaker 3: the air that would leave Abdullah in play potentially, But

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Speaker 3: don't love the matchup as much against the Broncos, and

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Speaker 3: more than that, I really don't love their offense, so

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Speaker 3: to me, Raiders running backs are left for the desperate

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Speaker 3: this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, man. I mean, look, earlier this week, Adam Rank

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Speaker 2: mirror Abdullah this week. Like that tells you everything you

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Speaker 4: What year is it? Right?

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Speaker 2: What you know? Obviously we've been out on Samir White

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Speaker 2: brave enough to actually put forth Alexander. Like there's been

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Speaker 2: many times this year where I'm like, man, the Raiders

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Speaker 2: have a really good matchup, but I'm like, I can't

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Speaker 2: rightfully try to talk at Alexander. Notice it, I just can't,

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Speaker 2: right And now we got a mirror Abdula in the mix,

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Speaker 2: the Chiefs backs. I think we talked about this earlier

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Speaker 2: in the week, but you know, Pacheco's coming back, Kareem

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Speaker 2: Hunt's been very good. What do you expect from this

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Speaker 4: I expect, you know, Kareem Hunt going back to his

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Speaker 4: one two punch that he's had in previous years with

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Speaker 4: game and in the goal line area, and think Isaiah

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Speaker 4: it's going to become, you know, where all the attention

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Speaker 4: important because both of these guys can execute these at

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Speaker 4: a high level, and I think, you know, with the

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Speaker 4: matchup being in their favor, I wouldn't be surprised both

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Speaker 4: of them put up both, you know, double digit points

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Speaker 2: That's wild because so far they haven't really used stream

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Speaker 2: well the first time around in Kansas City and in Cleveland.

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Speaker 2: a little bit in the weeks. It's when were the

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Speaker 2: wide receivers foroyo? Who's your starts and sins?

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Speaker 3: Malik neighbors mostly to tell people it's okay with Tommy Cutletz.

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Speaker 3: I know a lot of people were asking about that

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Speaker 3: he didn't throw deep a ton last year, but when

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Speaker 3: he did he was more effective than Daniel Jones has

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Speaker 3: been this season. Juwan Jennings has reached must start status.

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Speaker 3: I would say again, even in a tough match the Packers,

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Speaker 3: what are you gonna do?

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Speaker 2: Sam?

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Speaker 3: He leads to the forty nine ers in every category

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Speaker 3: every week, puts up a whole bunch of yards. I

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Speaker 3: feel the same way about JSN. I know this is

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Speaker 3: a tough Cardinals secondary that's been playing really well. I

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Speaker 3: don't care. When he's playing as well as he's been playing,

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Speaker 3: I don't see how you can get away. I think

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Speaker 3: both Lad McConkie and Quinton Johnston are starts this week.

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Speaker 3: I prefer Lad of the two, but look, the Ravens

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Speaker 3: struggled in every aspect against receivers, even on deep ball,

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Speaker 3: so that's good for Quinton Johnston. And then I have

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Speaker 3: Dj Moore as they start this week, good matchup against

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Speaker 3: the Vikings, and I think Roma Doonsay is a sleeper

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Speaker 3: because he had ten targets last week and in my sis,

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Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle look eventually he might snap out of this

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Speaker 3: but until he does single digit fantasy points every week

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Speaker 3: since Week two on, I don't know how you start him.

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Speaker 3: Jacoby Myers has been playing better. I think he's underrated,

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Speaker 3: but he's been playing more out wide without Devonte Adams.

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Speaker 3: That's Patrick Sirtan territory, and I don't like starting wide

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Speaker 3: receivers against Patrick cir Tan. Michael Junior single digit fantasy

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Speaker 3: points in every game with Anthony Richardson this year just

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Speaker 3: unusable right now. And then speaking of unusable, Deontay Johnson

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Speaker 3: isn't usable right now by the Ravens, so there's no

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Speaker 3: way he is usable by fantasy managers.

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Speaker 2: Uh yeah. I want to ask you about this, Lakwan,

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Speaker 2: because there are three names on the sit side that

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Speaker 2: have been just major disappointments. Who has been maybe the

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Speaker 2: biggest bust between Wattle Pittman and Deontay Johnson this year.

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Speaker 4: I mean, the obvious answer has to be wattle Man,

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Speaker 4: but there's a lot going on with two where he

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Speaker 4: was out for some time and they can't get back

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Speaker 4: on the same page. But I would say Michael Bittman Man.

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Speaker 4: He's become basically like the third option of that offense,

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Speaker 4: and it's kind of disappointing where you know, the talent,

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Speaker 4: we've seen it displayed at a high level before, where

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Speaker 4: he's shown flashes that he could be the cult to

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Speaker 4: wide receiver one. But it's like, I don't know what's

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Speaker 4: going on with this new regime. I don't know what's

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Speaker 4: going on with the new quarterback that he's probably trying

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Speaker 4: to get chemistry with but cannot. But I think you

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Speaker 4: know more so, Anthony Richson's attention is on Josh downs

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Speaker 2: No, it's not even worth it then, because everybody's gonna

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Speaker 4: That's his toxic behavior. That's what he does to fantasy managers.

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Speaker 4: This is crezzing. The dude is tight en eight right now,

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Speaker 2: Well, we're gonna have to work on this missus real

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it's kind of crazy. I said that I set

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Speaker 4: It's very possible, man, Like, come on, if you look

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Speaker 2: Well, and honestly, none of this happens if Jalen Wattle

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Speaker 2: Stay tuned, all right, Assassin, Enough, I'll do it for

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Speaker 2: this edition of the Stardom Cittam Show. Of course, you

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Speaker 2: Week twelve is prosperous in fantasy for you, and we

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