1 00:00:30,600 --> 00:00:37,120 Speaker 1: This this One Bill's Live presented by Calida Help. All Right, 2 00:00:37,200 --> 00:00:40,760 Speaker 1: welcome in to day six in training camp coverage here 3 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live. As we come to you live 4 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,440 Speaker 1: from Saint John Fisher University. Chris Brown, steam tasker with 5 00:00:45,479 --> 00:00:48,680 Speaker 1: you as always, and another hot day. Not quite as 6 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: hot as yesterday, but still toasty. Uh. Still putting the 7 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:55,520 Speaker 1: powder in the shorts before you head out to work today. 8 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:57,440 Speaker 2: Actually brought an extra shirt today. 9 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,400 Speaker 1: Yes you did, and you didn't put it on. Put 10 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 1: it on the laid plans. Maybe you could put it 11 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,520 Speaker 1: on for hour number two of the show. That's too 12 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: much effort, Okay, fair enough, people, We don't want you 13 00:01:08,680 --> 00:01:13,360 Speaker 1: to over exert yourself. We'll get right to the Bill's 14 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,200 Speaker 1: News because there is important Bills news and you know, 15 00:01:16,240 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: we'll probably get more details on it in the coming days. 16 00:01:20,360 --> 00:01:25,919 Speaker 1: But Max Harston, Buffalo's top draft pick, had some kind 17 00:01:26,000 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: of injury during individual position drills. The dbs were executing 18 00:01:30,760 --> 00:01:34,479 Speaker 1: pass rush drills and it looks as though there was 19 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:41,600 Speaker 1: a accidental collision where he got tripped up and he 20 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,399 Speaker 1: tweaked something on his right leg. We don't know the 21 00:01:45,520 --> 00:01:47,960 Speaker 1: nature of the injury. It hasn't been officially disclosed by 22 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,960 Speaker 1: the club, so we will find out at a later time, 23 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: presumably the next time coach McDermott addresses the media. He 24 00:01:57,160 --> 00:01:59,560 Speaker 1: did walk off under his own power, so that was 25 00:01:59,640 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 1: encourage jing, but he was walking off very slowly and 26 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 1: somewhat gingerly, So we'll await updates on that. Hopefully it's 27 00:02:08,560 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 1: not serious or severe or keeps him out for any 28 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: length of time, as the injury list has gotten considerably 29 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: longer in the last couple of days, the last two 30 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 1: days being padded practices, although most of that long list 31 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,680 Speaker 1: happened before the first padded practice even got started. 32 00:02:26,080 --> 00:02:30,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, none of the injuries before this one with Harrison, 33 00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 2: which we don't know about, none of them seemed serious. 34 00:02:34,200 --> 00:02:38,040 Speaker 2: The most serious one maybe Spencer Brown's back, which may 35 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,240 Speaker 2: be chronic. Other than that it's pulled muscle, here'll pull 36 00:02:41,320 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 2: muscle there, popcalf, that kind of stuff. So that's, you know, 37 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 2: the one thing that it's been good about it. It 38 00:02:47,600 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 2: has been long and and some of it is I 39 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 2: think this team and their cautious approach to injuries in general, 40 00:02:55,880 --> 00:02:57,720 Speaker 2: so they get they'll give a guy a day off 41 00:02:57,760 --> 00:02:59,679 Speaker 2: in training camp if he's got a little service and 42 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 2: that kind I think, so there's a little bit of 43 00:03:01,040 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 2: that going on. But nevertheless, up until today, there was 44 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: nothing about the injury list, even its link, that really 45 00:03:07,440 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: bothered me. And so you know, Harriston's really the first 46 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 2: concerning thing to happen on that front for me in 47 00:03:14,440 --> 00:03:15,880 Speaker 2: the entire camp, right. 48 00:03:16,080 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 1: So you hope it's nothing. On the positive side, Dalton 49 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:23,080 Speaker 1: and Kate, after missing yesterday due to knee soreness, was 50 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 1: back on the practice field and participating fully today, So 51 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,800 Speaker 1: that was an encouraging sign that we witnessed on the 52 00:03:28,840 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: practice field. New additions to the non participation list two 53 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 1: linemen Alec Anderson Mike Edwards, although both were out there 54 00:03:37,280 --> 00:03:41,600 Speaker 1: walking around and observing practice. So you know, you hope 55 00:03:41,960 --> 00:03:45,440 Speaker 1: those guys maybe they got a rest day or whatever 56 00:03:45,480 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 1: it is. It's not serious, so that's the situation there. Also, 57 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: kJ Hamler did not practice again today, along with the 58 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,680 Speaker 1: long list of others including Tyrrel Shavers, Kateen Praither, Spencer Brown, Dawson, Knox, 59 00:03:59,720 --> 00:04:04,440 Speaker 1: still lot Back, Tyler Bass, Torel Bernard, Dorian Williams. So 60 00:04:04,880 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: the list is still considerable. But Kincaid was one of 61 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:13,600 Speaker 1: the players back in action today, So that's kind of 62 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 1: the long and short of the injury list, and then 63 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 1: you know, as far as other Bills notes go, I 64 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: would say that on offense, we saw two very long 65 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:32,200 Speaker 1: touchdowns today, the first of seventy yarder from Josh Allen 66 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: to Steven Gosnel, the rookie undrafted free agent made a 67 00:04:37,120 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: nice play, got behind the defense, and then Mitch Trubisky 68 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:46,919 Speaker 1: hit Dion Kine for a sixty yard touchdown. So that 69 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,520 Speaker 1: was good to see some big plays from the offense 70 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:57,040 Speaker 1: for the first time in camp. Milano and Daikwon Hardy 71 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,359 Speaker 1: with interceptions today. On the defensive side of the ball, 72 00:05:00,680 --> 00:05:03,800 Speaker 1: Milano's almost looked like a gift. I swear Josh threw 73 00:05:03,800 --> 00:05:04,360 Speaker 1: it right at him. 74 00:05:04,400 --> 00:05:06,800 Speaker 2: I'm yeah, I told you. I called that a morale ball. 75 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 2: That's almost like your offensive coordinator on a bad day 76 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: for the defense will lean into the starting quarterback and say, hey, 77 00:05:13,360 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: just throw him one. Give him one, would you, Josh? 78 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: Make him feel better? 79 00:05:17,120 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 2: It looked like Josh was throwing it right at him. 80 00:05:19,200 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, there was no other there was no 81 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: receiver in the area. 82 00:05:22,560 --> 00:05:25,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, so I'm teasing. 83 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:27,239 Speaker 1: Yeah, I know a little bit of that, but Hardy 84 00:05:27,320 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: had a nice interception deep over the middle. It was 85 00:05:29,640 --> 00:05:33,080 Speaker 1: sliding interception in the secondary, so that was good to 86 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: see from the former seventh round pick in the twenty 87 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 1: four draft who was on the practice squad all last year, 88 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: so good for him. PBUs turned in by cam Lewis, 89 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: Greg Rousseau again at the line of scrimmage for the 90 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:51,520 Speaker 1: second day in a row, and Tredevious White with a 91 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 1: nice pass break up in the last eleven on eleven 92 00:05:53,880 --> 00:05:57,599 Speaker 1: session deep down the left sideline intended for Coleman and 93 00:05:57,640 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: he knocked it away with his hands, so that was 94 00:06:00,360 --> 00:06:02,320 Speaker 1: a good job by him. He was in trail technique 95 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 1: because he knew he had safety help over the top. 96 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:05,719 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's one of those days. They were working on 97 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:09,159 Speaker 2: third and long, third and long and two minutes, two minutes, 98 00:06:09,240 --> 00:06:12,039 Speaker 2: so you know there's gonna be some shots taken and 99 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:15,040 Speaker 2: uh and they hit on a couple, but they also 100 00:06:15,080 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 2: got defended, so it was a it was a good 101 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 2: day for both. It was It was fun to watch. 102 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 2: It was one of those practices where you do get 103 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:23,400 Speaker 2: to see some action in this in this in the 104 00:06:23,440 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 2: throwing game. Yeah, and it was a it was a 105 00:06:26,720 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: lively I thought it was a really good practice on 106 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:29,200 Speaker 2: both sides of the ball. 107 00:06:29,440 --> 00:06:32,920 Speaker 1: Shaq Thompson, the veteran who's coming off in Achilles injury 108 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:37,240 Speaker 1: and has spent virtually his entire career with Carolina, is flashing. 109 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: He's showing up second day in a row. He's out 110 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,120 Speaker 1: there making plays, had a sack today, was really hard 111 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:46,719 Speaker 1: hitting in the run game yesterday. You noticed him, You 112 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:50,840 Speaker 1: felt his presence on the field, and he's been getting 113 00:06:51,240 --> 00:06:54,080 Speaker 1: rotated up with the first unit. He is the third 114 00:06:54,160 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: linebacker in their base set, first team defense, and he 115 00:06:57,680 --> 00:06:59,960 Speaker 1: also got paired a few times with Matt Malano with 116 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: Bernard out. So he's he's a veteran player who's showing 117 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:09,400 Speaker 1: well coming off the Achilles injury, and he's getting more 118 00:07:09,440 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: reps because of it from the coaching staff. 119 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:11,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 120 00:07:12,600 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: Guy knows this stuff, knows this scheme. 121 00:07:15,000 --> 00:07:19,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's gonna be interesting to see how this I 122 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 2: don't know what do you call it, How this training 123 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 2: camp percolates this roster, Right, some guys percolate up and 124 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,040 Speaker 2: then some guys percolate the other way, and you never 125 00:07:29,080 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: know who are going to be the last eleven standing 126 00:07:31,000 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 2: in offense, last eleven standing on defense and usually. You know, 127 00:07:33,600 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 2: obviously there's maybe fifteen guys on both sides of the 128 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:41,720 Speaker 2: ball that really play a bunch in sub packages. I 129 00:07:41,760 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 2: gotta tell you, I don't know who's gonna be on 130 00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 2: either side. 131 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, a real lot to still be the tournament. I 132 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,520 Speaker 1: think it is gonna take preseason games to get the 133 00:07:49,560 --> 00:07:51,840 Speaker 1: separation the coaching staff is probably gonna need to make 134 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 1: just so they're sure they're making the right decision. 135 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 2: Coach, he'll tell you, there's the team you come into 136 00:07:55,920 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 2: training camp, here's the team we want to be. Guys, 137 00:07:57,840 --> 00:08:00,280 Speaker 2: here we go and then you go through training camp 138 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:01,600 Speaker 2: and then maybe a first couple of weeks of the 139 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 2: regular season. Okay, the guys, this is the team we 140 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 2: need to be. You know, we wanted to be this, 141 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:09,800 Speaker 2: but we need to be this because here's what we 142 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 2: can do. That's the way it works. And teams like 143 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 2: Buffalo offensively kind of do whatever they want with a 144 00:08:19,000 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 2: guy like Josh and the guys that they have and 145 00:08:20,560 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 2: the way they're running it, and at the point of 146 00:08:22,520 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: evolution they are. Defensively, I think it's a big find 147 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,600 Speaker 2: out mode now about what we'd love to be this 148 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:31,000 Speaker 2: kind of defense like Johns Sean McDermott told us two 149 00:08:31,080 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 2: days ago, we want to be a nasty, physical defense. 150 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:37,920 Speaker 2: You may need to be something else. We don't know 151 00:08:37,960 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 2: that yet, or they may be exactly that defense is 152 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 2: going to be a question until we see it. 153 00:08:45,720 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: Guys that were noticeable among the rookies tight end Jackson 154 00:08:50,320 --> 00:08:55,600 Speaker 1: Hawes and center Jacob Behar, who is an undrafted rookie. 155 00:08:55,880 --> 00:08:58,480 Speaker 1: He's getting a lot more reps because Cedric van pran 156 00:08:58,600 --> 00:09:01,640 Speaker 1: Grainger has missed the entire training camp due to a 157 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:06,240 Speaker 1: calf injury suffered in workouts literally a week before camp started. 158 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:09,080 Speaker 1: Uh so he is still on the shelf and Jacob 159 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,800 Speaker 1: Beher has benefited because of it. Steve and I were 160 00:09:12,840 --> 00:09:15,600 Speaker 1: watching him during one on one drills, one on one 161 00:09:15,640 --> 00:09:19,320 Speaker 1: pass rush drills, and this guy is anchoring down and 162 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:24,959 Speaker 1: stoning Zion Log He's anchoring down and holding up Dion Walker, 163 00:09:25,160 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: the biggest defensive lineman on the team. And Beyer is 164 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:31,520 Speaker 1: not big, he is kind of a squatty center, but 165 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: man can he anchor. It was impressive to watch him. 166 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,520 Speaker 2: They because he went up against some guys like loj 167 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,600 Speaker 2: and also Dion Walker and of course those two guys. 168 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:43,600 Speaker 2: When you see a guy who's shorter. You think, Okay, 169 00:09:43,600 --> 00:09:45,719 Speaker 2: I'm gonna try and bowl this guy and get him back, 170 00:09:45,760 --> 00:09:47,360 Speaker 2: get him, raise him up, and get him off his 171 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 2: feet and get him on some skates toward the quarterback. 172 00:09:50,080 --> 00:09:52,880 Speaker 2: Both and both those guys being bigger dudes, I think 173 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 2: that's that's their strength, right. He wasn't having it, man, 174 00:09:58,080 --> 00:10:01,439 Speaker 2: It was it was it was yeah, like wow, he 175 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: did it, and like you did once and he'd think, okay, 176 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:07,240 Speaker 2: he did it, did it again. Yeah, So it was impressive. 177 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: And that's that's the fun part of this whole thing. 178 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:11,760 Speaker 2: And I think at this point in these training camps, 179 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 2: when you're outside of the old two days and the 180 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,600 Speaker 2: padded practice and stuff, those individual drills where they kind 181 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:22,880 Speaker 2: of go hard are really important for evaluation. And Brandi 182 00:10:22,880 --> 00:10:25,320 Speaker 2: and BRANDI and I find it fascinating you go down 183 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:29,439 Speaker 2: there and watch those offensive and defensive line one on ones, uh, fascinating. 184 00:10:29,720 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: And yeah, Tyland Grabil had some good reps too. Off 185 00:10:33,920 --> 00:10:36,600 Speaker 1: the edge. He he won a one on one battle 186 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: with aj Epanessa and then he locked out Land and 187 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: Jackson on another rep and just kept him away from 188 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: the pocket. It was, and he wrote and then he 189 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 1: had another rep where he was facing Hayden Harris, and 190 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: he rode him all the way around the pocket and 191 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:52,840 Speaker 1: just kept going. 192 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:55,480 Speaker 2: Thirty foot circle all the way, I mean almost all 193 00:10:55,480 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 2: the way around the circle. It was uh, Grabels. I 194 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 2: think when you watch, the thing you start to notice 195 00:11:01,400 --> 00:11:04,440 Speaker 2: is man. He he can move, He can really move. 196 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,040 Speaker 1: He goes side to side alignment. He's like a loose athlete, 197 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: y athlete. 198 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 2: He looks like a regular offensive line but maybe a 199 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 2: hair even short for a tackle given the guys that 200 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:17,600 Speaker 2: are standing around him. But he ran around that circle 201 00:11:17,720 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 2: with Harris like it was nothing. Had him on there, 202 00:11:20,040 --> 00:11:22,880 Speaker 2: and he moves side to side, catches the up and 203 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:26,960 Speaker 2: under move, stays with the swim movie moves laterally very smooth. 204 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: I was he's an athlete and people will tell you, 205 00:11:30,240 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 2: and I had an old offensive lineman tell me left 206 00:11:32,679 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 2: tackles are those elite athletes. They're big, they're huge, they's strong, 207 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:39,080 Speaker 2: and they can move. They're they're different right tackles. Really 208 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 2: all you need is a mean streak. That was his synopsis. Uh, 209 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:46,320 Speaker 2: And Grabel seems to be able to play both sides, 210 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:47,599 Speaker 2: so that's kind of cool. 211 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:52,800 Speaker 1: And then finally near the tail end of practice, tempers flared, 212 00:11:53,160 --> 00:11:57,760 Speaker 1: and there was a scrap totally away near the defensive 213 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:04,800 Speaker 1: sideline by Chase Lunk and JaMarcus Ingram offensive tackle versus corner, 214 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:07,680 Speaker 1: which may not sound like a fair fight, but it's 215 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: spilled over into the sideline, huge pile on of players, 216 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: like thirty or forty players, guys getting knocked over, and 217 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: it's like, oh man, there's too many people in there. 218 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: Get him up, Get him up, Get him up. 219 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 3: Yeah. 220 00:12:19,600 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 1: JaMarcus Ingram had been having a long afternoon. He had 221 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:24,680 Speaker 1: gotten beaten for some big plays in the passing game, 222 00:12:25,400 --> 00:12:28,240 Speaker 1: so I would imagine he kind of boiled over when 223 00:12:28,440 --> 00:12:30,320 Speaker 1: you know, a tackle comes out there and he's blocking 224 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:32,920 Speaker 1: him and kicking him out on the edge, and it's 225 00:12:32,920 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: spilled over into a scrap. So it's it's hot out here, 226 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 1: and it's near the end of practice. You've had a 227 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:40,199 Speaker 1: rough day. You get some of that. 228 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: The defense has for whatever reason, they are taking it 229 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 2: to the limit on some of the downfield plays. They're 230 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 2: giving the extra one step finish off. Some guys are 231 00:12:54,840 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: some guys are starting to take exception to it. All 232 00:12:56,960 --> 00:12:59,440 Speaker 2: of that thing. But it goes both ways too. The 233 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 2: offense finish off plays like that as well, and I 234 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:06,920 Speaker 2: think this is it. This training camp has been like 235 00:13:07,080 --> 00:13:10,679 Speaker 2: that more than any training camp we've seen from Sean McDermott. 236 00:13:10,679 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 2: They're the extra step, the extra thud, little extra grit. 237 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:17,200 Speaker 2: Not I mean, there hasn't been a bunch of brawls 238 00:13:17,200 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 2: like the one he just described, but it has been 239 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 2: contentious on both sides, and there's a lot of yapping 240 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 2: going on, more so than in years past. I don't 241 00:13:27,200 --> 00:13:29,040 Speaker 2: know if it's the reason, right you and I are 242 00:13:29,040 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 2: having a conversation about Benford today? Maybe was it you 243 00:13:31,760 --> 00:13:34,680 Speaker 2: was having a conversation with I'm talking. We talked to 244 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:39,400 Speaker 2: so many people on the sidelines. Benford is growing into cornerbacks. 245 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: We were talking about. 246 00:13:40,200 --> 00:13:45,679 Speaker 2: That Benford has become the alpha guy back there and 247 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:50,440 Speaker 2: he's owning it. And he seemed always seemed to us 248 00:13:50,720 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 2: he kind of a quiet guy. He is not quiet. 249 00:13:54,640 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: He's more vocal, not only from a trash jogging standpoint, 250 00:13:57,480 --> 00:13:59,199 Speaker 1: but from a leadership setes point too. 251 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,199 Speaker 2: And he's also setting the tone physically on every rep. 252 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:06,959 Speaker 1: I think the contract, the big contract extension, was validation 253 00:14:07,120 --> 00:14:11,440 Speaker 1: for him that he's the man. Because he's the highest 254 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:16,640 Speaker 1: paid defensive back on the team. So I just think 255 00:14:16,679 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: it cemented in his brain. Oh I am the. 256 00:14:19,800 --> 00:14:23,480 Speaker 2: Guy's and rightfully so he probably says, you know what, 257 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:25,880 Speaker 2: and they probably told him have given this message. I 258 00:14:25,920 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 2: don't know, but I know how this works. They give 259 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: him that contract, and the GM and the owner and 260 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 2: everybody's over there shaking hands. Then he gets over to 261 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,080 Speaker 2: the football side and the coach is looking at him, 262 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 2: go okay, now it's you. We need you to do 263 00:14:37,920 --> 00:14:40,240 Speaker 2: this and this. This is your team. This is your team, 264 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:43,600 Speaker 2: you know, step up and own it. He has responded 265 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,200 Speaker 2: to that message, no question about it. 266 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:50,000 Speaker 1: So we moved to Around the NFL presented by Kalida Healthy, 267 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:53,120 Speaker 1: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. In a scary 268 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: situation in New York City yesterday, as a gunman killed 269 00:14:57,360 --> 00:15:02,400 Speaker 1: four people Adam Manhattan office build that houses the NFL 270 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:08,520 Speaker 1: offices before turning the gun on himself, and investigators believe 271 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 1: that the suspect, Shane Timora of Las Vegas, was trying 272 00:15:12,680 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: to get to the NFL offices after shooting several people 273 00:15:16,040 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: Monday in the building's lobby and accidentally entered the wrong 274 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,760 Speaker 1: set of elevator banks in an effort to get to 275 00:15:24,800 --> 00:15:31,840 Speaker 1: the NFL offices. Yeah, so four people unfortunately lost their 276 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: lives in this senseless act of violence, and a three 277 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 1: page note found in the suspect's wallet suggested he had 278 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,800 Speaker 1: a grievance against the NFL over acclaim that he suffered 279 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: from CTE, otherwise known as chronic traumatic encephalopathy. But he 280 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:53,000 Speaker 1: had only played high school football, he never played at 281 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: the collegiate level, never played at the pro level. And 282 00:15:56,320 --> 00:15:59,880 Speaker 1: there's no way to diagnose you with CTE until they 283 00:15:59,880 --> 00:16:04,960 Speaker 1: can do an autopsy. A doctor cannot diagnose you with 284 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: CTE until unfortunately you pass on and they do an 285 00:16:11,160 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 1: autopsy on your brain. So clearly, according to reports to 286 00:16:18,400 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: more of the suspect had dealt with mental illness, So well, yeah, 287 00:16:25,360 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: that's where we are. I mean, it's unfortunate, but a 288 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: lot of the NFL employees had to shelter in place 289 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:34,720 Speaker 1: for a long time yesterday until they could clear every 290 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:37,600 Speaker 1: floor of the building and know that the threat had 291 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:42,160 Speaker 1: been neutralized. So a long day at the NFL offices yesterday. 292 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,760 Speaker 1: Roger Goodell issued a statement which included the fact that 293 00:16:45,800 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: there will be stepped up security at the NFL offices 294 00:16:49,240 --> 00:16:52,320 Speaker 1: for the foreseeable future. In the wake of this incident. 295 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: And I gotta tell you, man, it's troubling to me 296 00:16:56,040 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: that a guy can park a car illegally on the 297 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 1: street in the middle of Manhattan where there are just 298 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: dozens of people walking around more than that all hours 299 00:17:04,560 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 1: of the day, and the guy's carrying an M four 300 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:11,400 Speaker 1: rifle and just walks into the building nobody. I mean, look, 301 00:17:11,760 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: if I saw the guy, I don't know that I'd 302 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:14,640 Speaker 1: be like, hey, where are you going with that? Either, 303 00:17:14,680 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 1: because you know you're you could become victim number one, 304 00:17:17,400 --> 00:17:21,760 Speaker 1: So I get it. But like I'm hoping somebody's calling 305 00:17:22,040 --> 00:17:25,879 Speaker 1: nine to one one immediately upon seeing that. Uh so, 306 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: really really troubling stuff. And especially when someone who's got 307 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,200 Speaker 1: a history of mental illness has access to that kind 308 00:17:33,240 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: of firepower. It's it's terrifying. 309 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:41,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, it's it's that's a sad state. But yeah, 310 00:17:42,600 --> 00:17:47,000 Speaker 2: mental illness is a real thing, yes, and uh yeah, 311 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,360 Speaker 2: it's it's tragic. 312 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 1: There was an NFL employee that was struck off a 313 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,280 Speaker 1: ricochet in the back and he was hospitalized and the 314 00:17:57,320 --> 00:18:01,120 Speaker 1: word is that he is in stable conduction. So that's 315 00:18:01,160 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: good news as far as the NFL employees in the 316 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:07,200 Speaker 1: building are concerned, so we send our best wishes to him. 317 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 1: But that was a really scary situation in New York 318 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: yesterday lighter news, and we see this at training camp. 319 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:19,280 Speaker 1: I know Bills fans are grousing about the fact that 320 00:18:19,760 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: there's a long list of injured players here at Bill's camp. 321 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: It's virtually the same everywhere else. Detroit Lyons cornerback Terry 322 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 1: and Arnold has a hamstring injury. He's going to miss 323 00:18:29,560 --> 00:18:32,359 Speaker 1: about a week of camp. There was a report Kansas 324 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,920 Speaker 1: City Chiefs wide receiver Hollywood Brown suffered an ankle injury. 325 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:39,360 Speaker 1: Looks like he avoided a serious injury, so he could 326 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,200 Speaker 1: be back as soon as tomorrow. So they dodged a 327 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:46,000 Speaker 1: bullet there. New England top cornerback Christian Gonzales has a 328 00:18:46,080 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: leg injury, no word on how long he is going. 329 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:49,640 Speaker 2: To be out. 330 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,280 Speaker 1: And then Philadelphia with a laundry list of injuries on defense. 331 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:59,440 Speaker 1: Linebackers Zach Bond, rookie Jihad Campbell, and Nolan Smith all 332 00:18:59,480 --> 00:19:02,560 Speaker 1: out withinies right now, along with rookie safety Andrew mccouba. 333 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:06,520 Speaker 1: So the defense for Philly taking a hit on the 334 00:19:06,560 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: injury front. And as we say, all the time, Steve, 335 00:19:09,800 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: it's a one hundred percent injury sport, even in training 336 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:16,360 Speaker 1: camp where you're not even tackling people to the ground. Yeah, 337 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: he's gonna be fine, right, Yeah, we mentioned though, Okay, yeah, Hollywood. 338 00:19:21,760 --> 00:19:27,359 Speaker 1: Brown's injury not considered serious. Some other transactions that took place, 339 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:32,320 Speaker 1: The Bucks reworked their extension with Baker Mayfield, so the 340 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:35,359 Speaker 1: quarterback will now get thirty million dollars guaranteed as they 341 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:39,200 Speaker 1: look to move some cap space around Jaguars first round 342 00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,560 Speaker 1: draft pick Travis Hunter. It was announced we'll play both 343 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,160 Speaker 1: offense and defense in their team's first preseason game. He's 344 00:19:45,160 --> 00:19:48,840 Speaker 1: been flip flopping back and forth through camp. The Titans 345 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: finally gave up on former first round pick Traylon Burks, 346 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:56,439 Speaker 1: the wide receiver out of Arkansas. It was it was 347 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,600 Speaker 1: not good from the word go. That looked like a 348 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: miss right off the bat. He was the guy that 349 00:20:02,840 --> 00:20:06,680 Speaker 1: was drafted after the draft day trade of AJ Brown 350 00:20:06,720 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: to the Eagles, and he did not live up to 351 00:20:10,080 --> 00:20:12,520 Speaker 1: the billing in any way, shape or form. He had 352 00:20:12,560 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: just suffered a broken collar bone in camp and they 353 00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,720 Speaker 1: just waved him injured and said, yeah, we're due. Yeah, 354 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: And in fairness it is a new coaching staff. It 355 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:24,760 Speaker 1: is not the same staff or scouting staff that drafted 356 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 1: Treylon Burks that's there now, so they're not beholden to 357 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:32,320 Speaker 1: him in any way. So that happens more than you 358 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: know in the NFL when there's a new regime. No 359 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:39,720 Speaker 1: timeline for Brown's quarterback Kenny Pickett, after suffering a hamstring 360 00:20:39,800 --> 00:20:43,320 Speaker 1: injury and practice veteran Joe Flacco is still getting most 361 00:20:43,359 --> 00:20:46,040 Speaker 1: of the starter reps. They'll have to keep an eye 362 00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,439 Speaker 1: on whether Dylan Gabriel or Dr Sanders gets more of 363 00:20:48,440 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: the backup reps going forward. 364 00:20:49,920 --> 00:20:51,879 Speaker 2: That's not gonna be. That's not gonna be cleared up 365 00:20:51,960 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 2: until twenty twenty seven. Forget about this year. 366 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,800 Speaker 1: And next year probably when Deshaun Watson re enters the equation. 367 00:20:58,960 --> 00:21:01,160 Speaker 2: Never take another snap, don't think no, He's never got 368 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,040 Speaker 2: to take another snap for them. 369 00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:07,399 Speaker 1: Nick Folk should get a new nickname. I think it 370 00:21:07,440 --> 00:21:10,720 Speaker 1: should be called cockroach, because you can't kill this guy. 371 00:21:10,800 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: He's forty two years old and he is back. Signed 372 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 1: a free agent deal with the Jets, for whom he 373 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:21,280 Speaker 1: had played before for seven seasons from twenty ten to 374 00:21:21,280 --> 00:21:24,720 Speaker 1: twenty sixteen, almost a decade ago. He played for them, 375 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: and now he's back playing and he was in the 376 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:29,800 Speaker 1: league last year. He's got a rubber leg. Man, He 377 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:31,400 Speaker 1: just like it never gets old. 378 00:21:31,480 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 2: He played for him fifteen years ago when he first started. 379 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:38,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. And he's still kicking. He's 380 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:39,960 Speaker 1: got a bionic leg. 381 00:21:40,200 --> 00:21:42,000 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing if you and here's the thing 382 00:21:42,040 --> 00:21:44,760 Speaker 2: with the kickers. The accuracy is something you can tweak. 383 00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:46,840 Speaker 2: You can, you can. It's like a golf swing. You 384 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 2: can hit it. But if your leg has the strength 385 00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 2: to go from fifty plus regularly, you can work on 386 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:55,600 Speaker 2: your accuracy. But you got to have the strong leg. 387 00:21:55,920 --> 00:21:59,760 Speaker 2: Folks obviously still can do it big enough that they 388 00:22:00,040 --> 00:22:03,040 Speaker 2: feel like, okay, you can do it. Still get it there, 389 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:04,000 Speaker 2: that's amazing. 390 00:22:04,400 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: Let me let me tell you how long this guy's 391 00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:10,119 Speaker 1: been kicking. Do you know who had the game winning 392 00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:13,119 Speaker 1: field goal of fifty one yards at the gun in 393 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,800 Speaker 1: the Monday Night game against the Bills in two thousand 394 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:21,320 Speaker 1: and seven? Two thousand and seven, it was Nick Folk? 395 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:23,320 Speaker 2: Who do you play for? Then? 396 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: The Cowboys? The Monday Night lost to the Cowboys five 397 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,240 Speaker 1: turnover game. The Bills had a special team's return for 398 00:22:31,280 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: a touchdown, an interception return for a touchdown. 399 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 2: And they were up by three touchdowns. So I did. 400 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:39,840 Speaker 2: I was on the sidelines for that game for a 401 00:22:40,000 --> 00:22:42,719 Speaker 2: radio call, I think so yeah. I was in the stadium. 402 00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:45,080 Speaker 1: Nick Folk kicked the game winning field goal. 403 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 2: Just stop. 404 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: That's how long that guy's been kicking two thousand and seven. 405 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 2: That's that's hard to believe. 406 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,400 Speaker 1: Pretty crazy. After we got off the air yesterday, another 407 00:22:55,480 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 1: left left tackle signed a big money contract. Bernhard Rayman 408 00:22:59,720 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: left Acle for the Colts signs a four year, one 409 00:23:02,560 --> 00:23:08,400 Speaker 1: hundred million dollar deal, sixty million guarantee gratulations. So good 410 00:23:08,400 --> 00:23:08,800 Speaker 1: for him. 411 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:10,000 Speaker 2: Uh. 412 00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,040 Speaker 1: And that's around the NFL presented by collide A Healthy, 413 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills. 414 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:17,600 Speaker 2: This was a this was a good day here. 415 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:19,520 Speaker 1: What'd you like? 416 00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,159 Speaker 2: Just seemed like they were putting some nuts and bolts 417 00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:24,159 Speaker 2: together today. They had a couple of things. They did 418 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 2: some some trickery. They did some solid down the field 419 00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 2: work the third and long. I was just watching talking 420 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,800 Speaker 2: about the offense. The offense and the defense as well. 421 00:23:34,320 --> 00:23:36,080 Speaker 2: Both team, both sides of the ball, put in some 422 00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:40,240 Speaker 2: really good work. The one on one drills were intense 423 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: and hot, very high tempo. I think the coaching staff 424 00:23:48,040 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 2: you can tell. I mean I was stood stood next 425 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:52,280 Speaker 2: to Bob Babbage for like a five seconds. Walkers walking 426 00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:53,680 Speaker 2: by him stood there kind of for a minute. He 427 00:23:53,760 --> 00:23:57,879 Speaker 2: was calling the plays into the defense, and you know, 428 00:23:58,119 --> 00:24:00,679 Speaker 2: the things he was saying into the into the microphone, 429 00:24:00,720 --> 00:24:05,639 Speaker 2: we're just respot on, you know. I mean, he's he 430 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,200 Speaker 2: seems all over it. So I'm I was really thought, 431 00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,119 Speaker 2: this is one of those practices where you look back on, 432 00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 2: you know, you think, yeah, we got better today. I 433 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:14,960 Speaker 2: mean there's there was a lot of good stuff going 434 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:15,439 Speaker 2: on today. 435 00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, And we will get to more of that soon. 436 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: We do have a jam packed show for you today 437 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,760 Speaker 1: coming up in about oh five minutes time. We'll have 438 00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:27,440 Speaker 1: Bill Center Connor mc governan sit right here in between 439 00:24:27,560 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 1: us and he'll join us to kind of talk about 440 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:33,480 Speaker 1: how the offense is progressing through the course of training camp, 441 00:24:33,520 --> 00:24:35,680 Speaker 1: and we'll ask him about some of the younger players 442 00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,639 Speaker 1: on the roster as well, who's caught his eye on 443 00:24:37,640 --> 00:24:40,720 Speaker 1: the offensive side of the ball. And second hour of 444 00:24:40,720 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 1: the show, we'll have commentary from the post practice podium 445 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 1: and on tap today Joshua Palmer and Keon Coleman so 446 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:52,800 Speaker 1: a receiver feel Coleman made a couple of nice plays 447 00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:59,320 Speaker 1: today as he's starting to stack days. I think, you know, 448 00:24:59,480 --> 00:25:02,600 Speaker 1: earlier in camp, there was a play here, and then 449 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: you wouldn't see him for an hour, and then there'd 450 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,560 Speaker 1: be a play there, and then there'd be a day 451 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:08,600 Speaker 1: where he wasn't as good, and then they'd come back 452 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:10,240 Speaker 1: and he'd make a couple of plays the next day. 453 00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:14,600 Speaker 1: And today I thought was one of his most consistent 454 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:21,320 Speaker 1: practices from start to finish. He's making plays, he's factoring in, 455 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 1: he's pulling the ball in no drops, So it was 456 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,600 Speaker 1: encouraging to see. I thought he took a step today 457 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,720 Speaker 1: with his consistency of play. 458 00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 2: Well, that's and that's the word that you got to 459 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 2: get particular. You know all young players go through it. 460 00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:36,520 Speaker 2: But you can have flashes. That's why you get drafted 461 00:25:36,560 --> 00:25:39,160 Speaker 2: because you can do some things. The question is can 462 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:42,120 Speaker 2: you do them often enough and not have a bad 463 00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 2: rep often enough to be a pro. And Keon's getting there. 464 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:50,240 Speaker 2: I mean this is you know, he's still young, and he's. 465 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:51,040 Speaker 1: Still one years old. 466 00:25:51,280 --> 00:25:54,000 Speaker 2: You still ride that roller coaster with him, and you 467 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 2: got to get get to cut off the troughs and 468 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:59,680 Speaker 2: stay up on the high levels if you want to 469 00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 2: get better. Yeah, are considered a better player. There was 470 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,120 Speaker 2: also a hit of the day. 471 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,000 Speaker 1: We will tell you about who had it a little 472 00:26:08,000 --> 00:26:10,160 Speaker 1: bit later on because we have to take a break 473 00:26:10,200 --> 00:26:13,320 Speaker 1: here and when we return, as we said, Connor McGovern, 474 00:26:13,520 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: Bill's starting center will be sitting between us here. Next 475 00:26:16,640 --> 00:26:18,719 Speaker 1: on One Bill's Live, presented by Cold of Health, it's 476 00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:38,560 Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to One Bill's Live Training 477 00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:41,840 Speaker 1: camp coverage, day six, and joining us on set right 478 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: now is Bill Center Connor McGovern and officially known as 479 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:48,359 Speaker 1: that now the year under your belt, at least with 480 00:26:48,400 --> 00:26:51,040 Speaker 1: the Bills anyway, So is it like old hat at 481 00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:52,399 Speaker 1: this point, it's like, hey, let's go. 482 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:55,639 Speaker 4: It feels good, chemistry's going well. Me and Josh are 483 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:57,920 Speaker 4: very comfortable with each other. It's just that extra year. 484 00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:00,880 Speaker 4: And then not just me and John the same, all 485 00:27:00,880 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: five guys up front. So it's great feelings for time 486 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,120 Speaker 4: in my career like that. 487 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,159 Speaker 2: Everybody had a question mark and the whole team was 488 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 2: supposed to take a step back, and you were part 489 00:27:08,080 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 2: of the issue. You know, we got a new guys 490 00:27:09,800 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 2: go moving down to center. Who knows how that's gonna go. Yeah, 491 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:12,879 Speaker 2: well you go to the Pro Bowl, you go to 492 00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:19,719 Speaker 2: the AFC Championship Game. The entire team really answered every question. 493 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:21,920 Speaker 2: It's got a feel good coming back to training camp 494 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,320 Speaker 2: looking around and thinking, all right, let's let's shift gears. 495 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 3: Yeah for sure. 496 00:27:25,080 --> 00:27:27,159 Speaker 4: Like especially like you just said last year, there's so 497 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,359 Speaker 4: many question marks and I think we answered every single 498 00:27:29,359 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 4: one of them. Everyone just bought into that belief system. 499 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 4: Everyone eats that Joe Brady brought, and I just feel 500 00:27:35,640 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: we're very comfortable with each other. Everyone knows each other, 501 00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 4: the chemistry is great. And then this year just able 502 00:27:40,480 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 4: to take another step. 503 00:27:41,359 --> 00:27:44,640 Speaker 1: I feel like, yeah, what what are you guys doing? 504 00:27:44,680 --> 00:27:47,600 Speaker 1: Because the big guys feel the heat more than anybody. 505 00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:51,439 Speaker 1: I was joking the other day, Oh it's another powder 506 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,280 Speaker 1: in your shorts day, and you literally put powder in 507 00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:56,199 Speaker 1: your shorts just like I do, Just like I do. 508 00:27:56,359 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: But what do you guys do? Obviously you got a 509 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,720 Speaker 1: force fluids and hydrate before forehand, but what are you 510 00:28:01,840 --> 00:28:04,439 Speaker 1: kind of doing during practice when it when it's not 511 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:05,400 Speaker 1: your rep set? 512 00:28:05,520 --> 00:28:09,040 Speaker 4: Yeah, constantly drinking fluids. Like I'm a big sweater, so 513 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,760 Speaker 4: constant salt, not just water, not just gator, like getting 514 00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 4: those salts everything into the electrolytes. 515 00:28:15,280 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 3: We're losing upwards of ten twelve pounds the water. 516 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, so your constantly drink it as soon as you're out, 517 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,160 Speaker 4: putting ice towel on your head, just trying to cool 518 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,680 Speaker 4: that core temperature down. Right off the field, you're jumping 519 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,040 Speaker 4: in the cold tubs, fully submerge. You get a slushy 520 00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 4: in your hand. I know we're kind of soft nowadays 521 00:28:29,200 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 4: with all that stuff, but it's smarter. 522 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: It's not soft, it's not soft whatever. It's not soft, 523 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: it's smarter, it's hard. 524 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 4: Biggest thing is just getting your core temperature, core temperature 525 00:28:40,600 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 4: down as fast as you Yeah. 526 00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:43,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, and what give us an idea of the schedule? 527 00:28:43,440 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 2: Like today, you guys gotta go in, you're gonna watch 528 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:47,480 Speaker 2: practice film. You're gonna do that. How late does it go? 529 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,240 Speaker 2: I know that you don't have an afternoon practice getting 530 00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:51,760 Speaker 2: ready for you can you can kind of jam it 531 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:52,640 Speaker 2: in today and get. 532 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 4: Yeah, so like today will first thing you want to 533 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 4: go recover some guys, work out, getting the ice tubs, 534 00:28:57,960 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 4: go get food. That's very important right now. Then we're 535 00:29:00,520 --> 00:29:02,840 Speaker 4: in meetings of like one thirty or so for about 536 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 4: two hours. Then we meet as an offense, go over 537 00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,320 Speaker 4: the day, get a little break at snack, go walk around, 538 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 4: flush the legs, go. 539 00:29:08,600 --> 00:29:09,600 Speaker 3: Back for about another hour. 540 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 4: Then around six o'clock we have a walk through and 541 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:15,880 Speaker 4: that's another one. It's still hot out then, so you 542 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,480 Speaker 4: gotta make sure you're tacking again, and then you're done 543 00:29:18,480 --> 00:29:19,320 Speaker 4: for day around seven. 544 00:29:19,560 --> 00:29:19,800 Speaker 3: Right. 545 00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:24,640 Speaker 1: How because you've largely had the same top eight or 546 00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: nine guys the last couple of years, now, how does 547 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:32,240 Speaker 1: chromes keep and coach guns keep everything fresh in the 548 00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:34,960 Speaker 1: practice setting? I mean, I know there you can never 549 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: have too many reps and you can never rep technique enough, 550 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:40,400 Speaker 1: but coach Chromes and coach guns like they got to 551 00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:42,760 Speaker 1: kind of keep it fresh too, to keep you guys engaged, right, 552 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:43,520 Speaker 1: I mean, you gotta. 553 00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 4: Keep everyone on their toes, Like the five of us 554 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:47,960 Speaker 4: up front, like the starters know what we're doing, yeah, 555 00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,200 Speaker 4: and that really allows us to help the next guys up. 556 00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:52,600 Speaker 4: So we've been very lucky the past few years. Very 557 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:53,360 Speaker 4: few injuries. 558 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,080 Speaker 3: Knock on that. Uh, they're all doing miss yeah. 559 00:29:57,120 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 4: I think Spencer was the only one that missed the 560 00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 4: game last year. So to make sure guys, Ryan Vandermark 561 00:30:01,080 --> 00:30:03,920 Speaker 4: said Grabel, like, all those guys are ready, like if 562 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 4: something happens that they're the next guys up. And we're 563 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:10,120 Speaker 4: also helping Chrome Austin. Just make sure they're ready. They're 564 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 4: good at because we're as good as they are if 565 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 4: we if we're not out, they're up, right. We got 566 00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,400 Speaker 4: to make sure there's no missteps. So that's our big 567 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 4: thing right now, making sure they're ready to go. 568 00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 2: What's the next step for the offense after the year 569 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:22,240 Speaker 2: you had last year. 570 00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 3: More points than anybody, score more points than the defense. Yeah, 571 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 3: their defense. 572 00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's that's really it. 573 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:28,560 Speaker 3: You guys. 574 00:30:29,360 --> 00:30:32,640 Speaker 2: You said a franchise record for points. You average thirty 575 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,000 Speaker 2: points a game. You were top two for the year, 576 00:30:37,040 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 2: an average scoring per game. What is the you know, 577 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:43,800 Speaker 2: what is the apple out there that keeps you guys hungry? 578 00:30:43,840 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 4: And he keeps going just the way it ended last year. 579 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:49,360 Speaker 4: We're so close but at the same time so far away. 580 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,600 Speaker 4: And then you had that next goal to win that 581 00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 4: big game and then to get to the final dance. 582 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 4: And that's the that's what's really driving us this year. 583 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,200 Speaker 1: I want to talk to you about a couple of 584 00:30:58,240 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 1: young guys YEP through camp in your group. Tyland Grabil 585 00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: as we know, came in last year as a rookie, 586 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 1: wins the swing tackle job, which that's not nothing, especially 587 00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: when you have a guy the caliber of Ryan Vandermark 588 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 1: here as well, and then he gets the core muscle 589 00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:15,960 Speaker 1: injury and his rookie year kind of goes up in smoke. 590 00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: How has he kind of re entered the fray here 591 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: in year two and how do you feel he's matured? 592 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I guess in there. 593 00:31:24,680 --> 00:31:27,160 Speaker 4: He's done a great job. Like last year, really couldn't 594 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:29,080 Speaker 4: do too much. I think it was week three that 595 00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,200 Speaker 4: he got had injury, so he worked back towards the 596 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:34,240 Speaker 4: end of the year taking reps again. So it was 597 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:37,560 Speaker 4: basically he had a restart all over again like ground zero, 598 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 4: and just the way he listens to Dion, Bandy two 599 00:31:42,280 --> 00:31:44,440 Speaker 4: and Spencer like to see how they think. 600 00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:45,480 Speaker 3: And he takes that out to the field. 601 00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 4: He had the other day he had a couple of 602 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 4: bad sets, listened to Dion what he was saying, and 603 00:31:51,400 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 4: come out the next day and it's totally fixed. He 604 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:55,080 Speaker 4: looks like Brandon like that, so he can apply and 605 00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:57,880 Speaker 4: like he's doing a great job listening and then applying 606 00:31:57,920 --> 00:31:59,920 Speaker 4: it back to the field and that's why I really respect. 607 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,000 Speaker 1: And then real quick, one other guy that Steve and 608 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,080 Speaker 1: I were watching in one on ones who seems to 609 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,400 Speaker 1: be holding his own here and he's getting more reps. 610 00:32:06,440 --> 00:32:10,640 Speaker 1: Casette is down Jacob Behar Ye, like that guy can 611 00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:14,120 Speaker 1: take on bigger bodies and hold like his anchor is. 612 00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,240 Speaker 4: Really really reminds me that you like this. He reminds 613 00:32:16,280 --> 00:32:19,280 Speaker 4: me a lot of like a smaller compact Mitch Morse. Okay, yeah, 614 00:32:19,280 --> 00:32:21,640 Speaker 4: because he's got that ste He's not six six now. 615 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:25,240 Speaker 4: It's just like a smaller compact version of him, and 616 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,479 Speaker 4: he's able to get himself in position. He doesn't get 617 00:32:27,480 --> 00:32:29,040 Speaker 4: out of position, and it's just hard to move him 618 00:32:29,040 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: because how basically how small and compact he is. 619 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,280 Speaker 2: Okay, let me ask you this now, nobody knows better 620 00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 2: than you. 621 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 3: Guys. 622 00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:37,240 Speaker 2: Give us a little synopsis about how the d line 623 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 2: has changed. 624 00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:39,440 Speaker 3: They're doing very well. I like the start. 625 00:32:39,480 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: They're playing like at Oliver every day, switching up something 626 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:44,520 Speaker 4: new and like, so we're have to react to him. 627 00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,120 Speaker 4: And then as we're reacting him, he's changing what we're doing. 628 00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:48,480 Speaker 4: So we're constantly communicating. 629 00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 3: Uh. 630 00:32:49,160 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 4: Just the way the defense is a packing the ball 631 00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,560 Speaker 4: this year, how when we're pulling, they're either closing down 632 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:55,800 Speaker 4: hard or they're spilling it, so we got to react differently. 633 00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 4: They're not just doing it one way every single time. 634 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 4: The backers are flying all over the place. I love 635 00:33:00,400 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 4: how like the intensity every day the defense is bringing. 636 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,000 Speaker 1: We were talking to TV one of the first days 637 00:33:05,000 --> 00:33:07,000 Speaker 1: of practice while he was still out there before his 638 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: hamstring injury, and I was asking him like, is it 639 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,720 Speaker 1: me or does it look like there is a even 640 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: more motion pre snap than we saw from the offense 641 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: last year? He goes, Yeah, he goes, But that's good 642 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:19,840 Speaker 1: for us because it helps us prepare. Do you feel 643 00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:23,520 Speaker 1: like there's even more pre snap motion in the offense 644 00:33:23,560 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: this year than last year? 645 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:26,000 Speaker 4: Yeah, I would say so, Like we did a great 646 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 4: job and skys and a lot of stuff this year, 647 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:29,800 Speaker 4: and then we're just more comfortable to each other, so 648 00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:31,880 Speaker 4: we're able to do more this year, and just we're 649 00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:32,960 Speaker 4: throwing everything in like. 650 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, going into the game, busy pre snap. 651 00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: Yeah, we might not have this much during the game, 652 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 4: but right now you're just trying to learn. Yeah, So 653 00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:41,200 Speaker 4: you're throwing everything at them and they're doing a great 654 00:33:41,280 --> 00:33:43,840 Speaker 4: job reacting to it, and I love going against like 655 00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 4: socially our linebackers because no one really else flies to 656 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,719 Speaker 4: the ball like they do, like TV Matt like just 657 00:33:48,760 --> 00:33:51,240 Speaker 4: not making athletic lidex. They could just run the link 658 00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:53,480 Speaker 4: to the field. And so that really makes us have 659 00:33:53,520 --> 00:33:55,160 Speaker 4: to react to that, and then we get to the 660 00:33:55,160 --> 00:33:56,960 Speaker 4: game and it feels like it's going in slow motion. 661 00:33:56,920 --> 00:33:59,960 Speaker 2: All right, both sides of the ball, offense, defense, special team, 662 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:03,840 Speaker 2: coaching staff. Who's who's impressed you this camp? 663 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,560 Speaker 4: Easily without a doubt, Jackson Hawes. Yeah, the phenomenal block 664 00:34:08,640 --> 00:34:10,879 Speaker 4: of how he's finishing. It looks like he's been here 665 00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 4: for three or four years. The way you should have 666 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 4: saw yesterday the. 667 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:17,160 Speaker 1: Mark Guy man Ivy League guy Smart. 668 00:34:16,920 --> 00:34:18,840 Speaker 3: Yesterday that we had a duo he's working with. 669 00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,600 Speaker 4: Dion comes down on a tram Knox Greg Russau like 670 00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: it was like when we kid knocks him down, gets up, 671 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 4: wheels out, Matt Malona like nothing, ball goes right up 672 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:26,920 Speaker 4: the hash. 673 00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 3: It was insane to say, like. 674 00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 1: For a rookie to be doing that, that's what's right, right. 675 00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,840 Speaker 3: Yeah, Yeah, there's a lot of it. 676 00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:32,960 Speaker 2: There's a lot of awareness. 677 00:34:33,080 --> 00:34:34,520 Speaker 4: I was like, I was like, oh, it's Dawson's back 678 00:34:34,600 --> 00:34:36,120 Speaker 4: like this, and I looked and I was like, oh, no, 679 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 4: it's five yeah, and we're all excited and made sure. 680 00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,640 Speaker 4: Then he thought we were joking with him yesterday. We're like, oh, 681 00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:44,480 Speaker 4: like great Jovictually he's like, oh, it's the bat's joke, right, No, Like, 682 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 4: like not a lot of tight ends do that, like, 683 00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,239 Speaker 4: and his willingness to just go in there and just 684 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 4: do the dirty work. 685 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:52,239 Speaker 1: And if he proves himself capable as we move into 686 00:34:52,280 --> 00:34:57,520 Speaker 1: the preseason here, how much freedom and versatility does that 687 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: give Joe Brady, Because now, if you want to go big, 688 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:04,040 Speaker 1: you can go Alec can be you know, you jumbo 689 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: guy that you used the last year plus, or you 690 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: can go thirteen with him Dawson and Dalton, or you 691 00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: can go crazy. 692 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:14,000 Speaker 2: And right both. Yeah, that's what I mean. 693 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: So, like, maybe just speak to the versatility and options 694 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 1: that gives your offense. If he can prove hey, I'm 695 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:21,920 Speaker 1: your third tight end, I'm here to do the dirty, 696 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:22,680 Speaker 1: right he could do that. 697 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:24,919 Speaker 4: That just keeps the defense on their toes. They don't 698 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,399 Speaker 4: know what to expect because now they know last year, 699 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 4: like by the end of the year, they knew Alex Comman, 700 00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:31,800 Speaker 4: all right, we're only running duo, We're only running outside. 701 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:34,479 Speaker 4: Don't like very few plays. It was hard from the stop, 702 00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:36,560 Speaker 4: but they knew it was coming. Now if we got 703 00:35:36,719 --> 00:35:39,200 Speaker 4: Jackson into that, who knows, Like, are we gonna throw it? 704 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:40,960 Speaker 4: Are we gonna run it? Who knows? And I think 705 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:43,279 Speaker 4: it just really opens up. Then it gives Josh even 706 00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:43,720 Speaker 4: more freedom. 707 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:46,680 Speaker 2: If you parachuted into this camp from last year's camp, 708 00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:47,960 Speaker 2: what would you notice it be different? 709 00:35:48,480 --> 00:35:49,240 Speaker 3: I would say definitely. 710 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 4: Right off the bat, the communication just flung ball, all 711 00:35:52,080 --> 00:35:54,600 Speaker 4: eleven of us talking. You'll see me constantly turn around 712 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,800 Speaker 4: talking to Josh. Last year there was kind of just 713 00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:59,000 Speaker 4: getting used to each other, how we all figure out 714 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,080 Speaker 4: at center the tight ends, like listening to everything. 715 00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,960 Speaker 3: But now it's we're just all very comfortable. 716 00:36:05,560 --> 00:36:07,480 Speaker 4: We're I'm afraid to tell Josh no if he wants 717 00:36:07,480 --> 00:36:10,920 Speaker 4: to change something, or just constantly talking and just simple 718 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 4: stuff like that. That doesn't seem like a big issue 719 00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:14,800 Speaker 4: off the field, but while you're out there, it's a 720 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: huge thing. 721 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: One difference is you've got it. Last year you had 722 00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 2: a brand new center nobody knew about. Now you've got 723 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:19,760 Speaker 2: a Pro Bowl center. 724 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:21,759 Speaker 5: There. 725 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:23,879 Speaker 1: You Yeah, congrats, by the way, appreciate because we didn't 726 00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,239 Speaker 1: see you when that happened. Last one for me, how 727 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:33,320 Speaker 1: much has the pizza making repertoire expanded? 728 00:36:33,960 --> 00:36:34,839 Speaker 2: I want to know how far? 729 00:36:35,000 --> 00:36:37,359 Speaker 1: I know it's seriously, I mean, he's a foodie. I'm 730 00:36:37,400 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 1: a foodie. I got my own oony oven for the backyard. 731 00:36:41,360 --> 00:36:45,920 Speaker 1: Really is something better? I mean I wanted Wood's charity fundraisers, 732 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: so I just started using it. 733 00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:49,399 Speaker 3: I'm not sure. So, like, well, it depends how many 734 00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:50,319 Speaker 3: pizzas you make in these. 735 00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:52,840 Speaker 1: Yeah, Like I'm not making a ton and those and those. 736 00:36:52,680 --> 00:36:55,839 Speaker 3: Ovens are small, that's my problem. It's like a large. 737 00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,400 Speaker 1: You can't go more than like twelve six eight inches 738 00:36:58,440 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: in diameter in that thing. 739 00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:04,839 Speaker 4: Personally, like OONI I thought, if you're making one two pizzas, great, Yeah, 740 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:06,720 Speaker 4: I'm making upwards thirty to forty. 741 00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:09,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, like after we're big appetite guy. 742 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,359 Speaker 3: Yeah, after thirty forty pizzas, like like just three of them, 743 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 3: you got to reheat it. It takes a while. 744 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:14,439 Speaker 6: Yeah. 745 00:37:14,560 --> 00:37:16,399 Speaker 4: So I actually have steel plates built into my oven 746 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:18,480 Speaker 4: back home. It's like, oh, so it's almost like a 747 00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:19,399 Speaker 4: true New York oven. 748 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: Nice. 749 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 3: I'm creaking out two at the time, I'm not. 750 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:23,919 Speaker 1: I'm not making your money. So because if I could, 751 00:37:24,040 --> 00:37:27,560 Speaker 1: I would just build a brick oven that's in my backyard. Yeah, 752 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:29,920 Speaker 1: but I don't, but I worry about the temperature here, 753 00:37:30,080 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: like cracking my brick oven. You know, with the winners 754 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 1: we have. 755 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:35,279 Speaker 3: Get a steel plate. They don't crack. So that was 756 00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:37,840 Speaker 3: my first when I first had like ceramic tile, I. 757 00:37:37,880 --> 00:37:40,279 Speaker 1: Got to talk to you about that more often steel plates. 758 00:37:40,040 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 3: And it's gonna go. 759 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, a wooden peel or a metal peel, wooden pelt. 760 00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:47,120 Speaker 1: Okay, all right, but are you experimenting in terms of 761 00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: like recipe stuff. I'm wondering how far you're pushing the 762 00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: envelope stuff. 763 00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:53,279 Speaker 4: But my wife' does have to get better hobbies because 764 00:37:53,360 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: a lot of it is cooking and baking wise, she's like, 765 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:56,719 Speaker 4: you're making me gain weight. 766 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 3: So like when we get back, I'll have to get 767 00:37:59,520 --> 00:37:59,799 Speaker 3: you stright. 768 00:37:59,840 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 4: So I got tell her, I got I'm starting to 769 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120 Speaker 4: make cookies like chalip cookies, peanut butter cookies. 770 00:38:05,320 --> 00:38:07,319 Speaker 3: And next time when I were break for camp here 771 00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:08,680 Speaker 3: and I'll bring something. 772 00:38:08,719 --> 00:38:11,360 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yeah, I'm on. I'm down on that. Steve Steve, 773 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: Steve yesterday scarf down like four Wegman's cookies because they're 774 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:17,000 Speaker 1: bringing us lunch every day. 775 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 3: That these are like big thick cookies. Lineman, here's exactly. 776 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,359 Speaker 2: Go tell your wife to take up a new hobby, 777 00:38:24,440 --> 00:38:26,120 Speaker 2: start exercise and just see how that works. 778 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, don't do that. 779 00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:31,759 Speaker 1: Don't do He's smart enough to not not to do that. 780 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:33,680 Speaker 1: All right, Connor, thanks for the time. It's always all right, 781 00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:36,760 Speaker 1: stay healthy, please and keep hydrating. That's Connor mc governor 782 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:38,839 Speaker 1: joining us here on One Bill's Live. We'll take a break, 783 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,480 Speaker 1: be back with more. Stay tuned for our training camp coverage. 784 00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:02,960 Speaker 1: All right, back here for a training camp coverage at 785 00:39:03,040 --> 00:39:05,520 Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker with you day 786 00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:08,560 Speaker 1: six in the books, and wanna take a moment to 787 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,160 Speaker 1: thank our good friends at Wegmans for providing us with 788 00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:14,879 Speaker 1: lunch here at Saint John Fisher University throughout training camp 789 00:39:14,960 --> 00:39:22,040 Speaker 1: and today's offering hit the spot a backyard barbecue party. 790 00:39:22,280 --> 00:39:23,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, pulled pork. 791 00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:25,879 Speaker 1: Some of the fine reps from Wegmans were out here, 792 00:39:26,920 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 1: and I said, you had me at barbecue, bringing the smoky, 793 00:39:31,640 --> 00:39:38,120 Speaker 1: savory flavors of summer straight to your table. No grill required, 794 00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:41,439 Speaker 1: No smoker needed either. This hot catering package is loaded 795 00:39:41,480 --> 00:39:44,720 Speaker 1: with classics like pulled pork, mac and cheese, baked beans, 796 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:48,760 Speaker 1: and coleslaw. Everything you need for a full on comfort 797 00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:54,200 Speaker 1: food feast. Wegmans, the official tailgate headquarters of the Buffalo 798 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,640 Speaker 1: Bill Steve and I scarfed down a couple of pulled 799 00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:59,560 Speaker 1: pork sliders. Yeah, you dug into the mac and cheese. 800 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: That was that went down easy. Now here's the thing 801 00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:08,440 Speaker 1: bonus shark hooterie board. Oh yeah, anytime someone sending me 802 00:40:08,600 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: some soaprosada on a chase on a plate, I'm happy. 803 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 2: That spread we had today would have been perfect on 804 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,200 Speaker 2: a game day. 805 00:40:19,000 --> 00:40:23,520 Speaker 1: Yes, I would agree. I would agree. You put the 806 00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: charcuterie board out first, let people gnash a little bit, 807 00:40:27,640 --> 00:40:30,399 Speaker 1: you know, get the juices flowing, and then out comes 808 00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:33,080 Speaker 1: the pulled pork, out comes the baked beans, out comes 809 00:40:33,120 --> 00:40:35,280 Speaker 1: the mac and cheese, and then people get really excited. 810 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:38,400 Speaker 2: Yeah it's it's it was great, really good food, and 811 00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:39,640 Speaker 2: we appreciate them. 812 00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're doing a bang for us, doing a bang 813 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:45,520 Speaker 1: up job, if I do say so myself. We said 814 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: and teased that we had the hit of the day 815 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:55,279 Speaker 1: for you, and it was Joe Andreeson providing the hit 816 00:40:55,400 --> 00:40:58,680 Speaker 1: of the day. There was a play that went out 817 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:02,160 Speaker 1: to the right side and Ty Johnson had the ball 818 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: and he was headed towards the sideline and Joe Andreesen 819 00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:12,520 Speaker 1: closed the space quickly and labeled him so much so 820 00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:16,200 Speaker 1: that he was thrown five yards into the sideline area 821 00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,360 Speaker 1: and was shaken up after the play. I don't know 822 00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,239 Speaker 1: if he collided with players on the sidelines and that's 823 00:41:22,280 --> 00:41:24,759 Speaker 1: why he was shaken up, but he got up and 824 00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,279 Speaker 1: then had to take a knee and the trainers came 825 00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,200 Speaker 1: over to take a look at him, and some of 826 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,440 Speaker 1: the offensive players took issue with it, and I think 827 00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:38,840 Speaker 1: it was because Ty Johnson was so close to the sideline. Okay, 828 00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 1: in a game, you rock somebody, but against your own 829 00:41:43,640 --> 00:41:47,440 Speaker 1: teammate near the sideline there maybe not what the That's 830 00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: why the offense was a little hot about it. It 831 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:53,239 Speaker 1: was a clean hit, It was absolutely a clean hit, 832 00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:58,160 Speaker 1: but yeah, he knocked him on his keyster. That was 833 00:41:58,239 --> 00:42:00,839 Speaker 1: the hit of the day and hopefully Time Johnson's okay 834 00:42:01,760 --> 00:42:04,000 Speaker 1: going forward, because while you want to be a physical, 835 00:42:04,120 --> 00:42:06,120 Speaker 1: nasty defense, you don't want to do it at the 836 00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:09,080 Speaker 1: expense of your own teammates on offense. So it's just 837 00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,319 Speaker 1: it's a tricky balance. I I I'll be the first 838 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:12,880 Speaker 1: to admit it. 839 00:42:16,280 --> 00:42:21,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, that Buffalo Joe going in and hitting Ty Johnson's 840 00:42:21,360 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 2: not the same as Matt Malona going in and hitting 841 00:42:25,040 --> 00:42:28,080 Speaker 2: James Cook. Not that there are any less value to 842 00:42:28,200 --> 00:42:31,440 Speaker 2: them or anything, but Matt Mlona doesn't have to make 843 00:42:31,520 --> 00:42:33,480 Speaker 2: that hit to make sure he's going to be on 844 00:42:33,560 --> 00:42:37,160 Speaker 2: the roster, right, Buffalo Joe, Mike, you know what I mean, 845 00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:40,439 Speaker 2: h And I don't think I think Joe has made 846 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:41,719 Speaker 2: a name for him some of he's got a pelt 847 00:42:41,800 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 2: on the wall already with his with his first year 848 00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,640 Speaker 2: in the league, played in all the games. I mean, 849 00:42:45,680 --> 00:42:48,480 Speaker 2: he's a he was a fixed and I'll tell you what, 850 00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:50,280 Speaker 2: he got a lot of reps to playing a linebacker 851 00:42:50,320 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 2: because this team played in a lot more than a 852 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,160 Speaker 2: handful of games that were laughers in the fourth quarter 853 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:57,040 Speaker 2: where Josh is sitting over there drinking gatorade and they 854 00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 2: and Joe got a chance to play. So he may 855 00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:02,840 Speaker 2: be above the line, but that's that's kind of what 856 00:43:02,920 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: you're looking at here. You get the guys that say, listen, 857 00:43:05,640 --> 00:43:07,600 Speaker 2: I'm you know, I'm feeling the pressure a little bit. 858 00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:10,400 Speaker 2: My second year. I've played special teams my whole you know, 859 00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,200 Speaker 2: my whole first year. I want to make sure I'm here. 860 00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 2: I'm gonna let him know where I'm at. And that's 861 00:43:18,320 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 2: that's the atmosphere of an NFL training camp. That's just 862 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:21,080 Speaker 2: the way it is. 863 00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,080 Speaker 1: And with Terrell Bernard currently sidelined with a hamstring injury, 864 00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:29,200 Speaker 1: the rotation at linebacker has been interesting. Beginning of practice, 865 00:43:29,560 --> 00:43:34,279 Speaker 1: there's Matt Milano with Baalon Spector in early team work, 866 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: and then when they went base defense, Shaq Thompson came 867 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,440 Speaker 1: on the field as the third linebacker. Then later in 868 00:43:40,600 --> 00:43:45,360 Speaker 1: practice you saw here, let me get my Later in 869 00:43:45,480 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: practice you saw Shaq Thompson with Milano instead of Spector. 870 00:43:51,840 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 2: And then. 871 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 1: Joe Andreeson was primarily with the second group, and he 872 00:43:58,880 --> 00:44:03,080 Speaker 1: had people rotating in with him, including undrafted rookie Keyante Jenkins, 873 00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,880 Speaker 1: the kid from Virginia Tech who's kind of a hybrid player, 874 00:44:07,680 --> 00:44:12,319 Speaker 1: if you will. So the rotation with Terrell Bernard out 875 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: is giving a lot of guys extra reps in the 876 00:44:16,840 --> 00:44:20,799 Speaker 1: defense in the team periods. It's interesting to see them, 877 00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,359 Speaker 1: you know, kind of navigate their way through that. I'm 878 00:44:23,360 --> 00:44:25,879 Speaker 1: talking about the coaches here with who's in, who's out. 879 00:44:26,080 --> 00:44:29,360 Speaker 1: Is it down in distance, is it personnel related, you know, 880 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:32,880 Speaker 1: base defense, nickel defense, that kind of thing. And we 881 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,799 Speaker 1: haven't even gotten to the first preseason game yet, that's 882 00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:38,839 Speaker 1: not until next week, and so I think a lot 883 00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:41,160 Speaker 1: of that will continue as long as Bernard is out. 884 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:43,360 Speaker 2: Some of it is just the logistics, number of bodies 885 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:45,080 Speaker 2: they have in the room playing the same position or 886 00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:47,160 Speaker 2: not playing the same position. And some of it is 887 00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:50,399 Speaker 2: is the injuries, and some of it is let's find 888 00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,279 Speaker 2: out about a guy, and some of it is we 889 00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,920 Speaker 2: don't have a choice, you know. So the rotation is 890 00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 2: going to be what it is at this point of 891 00:44:57,640 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 2: the season when you got ninety guys on the field 892 00:45:00,880 --> 00:45:04,839 Speaker 2: and you're trying to juggle all of their playing time 893 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:08,040 Speaker 2: and reps. So some of this is meaningless in the 894 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:10,000 Speaker 2: big picture, but we don't know what is meaningless and 895 00:45:10,080 --> 00:45:13,520 Speaker 2: what really means something. All these reps mean something, no question, 896 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:15,600 Speaker 2: I would you know what I mean? Some of them 897 00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,640 Speaker 2: are they force their hand. They would never try some 898 00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,160 Speaker 2: of these combinations otherwise, And we don't. 899 00:45:19,960 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: Really see, at least it's been my experience. You don't 900 00:45:23,560 --> 00:45:27,920 Speaker 1: really see coaches filtering things down to fewer people and 901 00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:31,160 Speaker 1: given roles until after you get past the first preseason game, 902 00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: sometimes the second. They want to see it in as 903 00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: close to real live action as they can because they 904 00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:41,600 Speaker 1: feel that helps confirm some of the theories and evaluations 905 00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,000 Speaker 1: they've made here in the training camp setting. Seeing it 906 00:45:45,080 --> 00:45:49,560 Speaker 1: in a game either confirms it or tells them huh, 907 00:45:50,120 --> 00:45:51,480 Speaker 1: maybe I need to see a little bit more. 908 00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:55,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. The problem is this, you get into training camp 909 00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:58,120 Speaker 2: and there's only so many practice reps, right. You have 910 00:45:58,160 --> 00:46:00,080 Speaker 2: all these guys you want to find out about, and 911 00:46:00,200 --> 00:46:04,799 Speaker 2: sometimes you give guys a couple of opportunities, but only 912 00:46:04,840 --> 00:46:07,759 Speaker 2: a couple. That's only that they get like three or 913 00:46:07,800 --> 00:46:10,640 Speaker 2: four handful of plays at most to get in there 914 00:46:10,680 --> 00:46:12,200 Speaker 2: and say, and if you if you handle it, and 915 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:15,960 Speaker 2: if you at play at a level, okay, then you're 916 00:46:15,960 --> 00:46:19,040 Speaker 2: gonna get a little more opportunity. But if you you 917 00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:23,440 Speaker 2: puke on your shoes, we're moving. We can't wait on that. 918 00:46:23,560 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 2: And that and that's and that's why these reps. A 919 00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:31,000 Speaker 2: guy like, yeah, I'm gonna I'm gonna hit Ty Johnson 920 00:46:31,040 --> 00:46:31,759 Speaker 2: on the sideline. 921 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna make my presence felt I'm gonna get noticed. 922 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:38,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, because the next time, the next rep, he may 923 00:46:38,080 --> 00:46:38,720 Speaker 2: see maybe. 924 00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:42,200 Speaker 1: In three days, you know, yeah, probably not for Joe, 925 00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:42,880 Speaker 1: but yes. 926 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,000 Speaker 2: That's the Yeah, that's a little bit of hyperbole, but 927 00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 2: that's that's what you think then, because like a guy 928 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 2: like Joe knows, during the regular season, you get more 929 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: reps than you want. You gotta go out and you 930 00:46:56,520 --> 00:46:58,279 Speaker 2: try to take the other team's reps and your rep 931 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,480 Speaker 2: they know they know you, but at training camp you 932 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:06,919 Speaker 2: got to prove it again. Yeah, you know, there's another 933 00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:08,400 Speaker 2: a lot of bunch of other guys that they're getting 934 00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,279 Speaker 2: to know and they may like them better. Right, it's 935 00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:13,440 Speaker 2: just that simple. So and you're still gonna get your 936 00:47:13,480 --> 00:47:16,000 Speaker 2: same number of opportunities, and that's it. You don't want 937 00:47:16,040 --> 00:47:18,320 Speaker 2: to you don't want to have to fall back on 938 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 2: what you did last year because well, I know I'm 939 00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:22,040 Speaker 2: playing bad now, but you saw me play good last year, 940 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:23,480 Speaker 2: you know what I mean. Oh yeah, you don't want 941 00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:25,040 Speaker 2: any of that. You got to play good and get 942 00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,960 Speaker 2: better and be better than you were last year. And 943 00:47:27,040 --> 00:47:30,600 Speaker 2: it's that's the mental gymnastics these guys go through for 944 00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:31,400 Speaker 2: these training camps. 945 00:47:32,080 --> 00:47:35,040 Speaker 1: We have to take a break here our number two 946 00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:37,680 Speaker 1: coming your way. If you want to chime in, feel 947 00:47:37,719 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: free to do so at eight h three zero five 948 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: point fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty. 949 00:47:42,400 --> 00:47:44,279 Speaker 1: Maybe you got a question about what's going on out here, 950 00:47:44,360 --> 00:47:46,799 Speaker 1: Steve and I have had eyes on the practice field 951 00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,160 Speaker 1: just about every day, so feel free to hit us 952 00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: up on the phone lines if you want. But we've 953 00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:56,880 Speaker 1: also got some post practice podium sounds coming your way 954 00:47:56,960 --> 00:47:59,959 Speaker 1: in hour number two Joshua Palmer, Keyon Coleman addressing the medium. 955 00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:01,640 Speaker 1: We'll have those for you as well. And hour number 956 00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,080 Speaker 1: two here All one Bill's Live presented by Colida Health. 957 00:48:04,080 --> 00:48:05,160 Speaker 1: It's Buffalo Bills Radio. 958 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:47,839 Speaker 2: These one Bills Live presented by Kalida Health. 959 00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: Our number two, Day six of training camp here at 960 00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,560 Speaker 1: Saint John Fisher. Our camp coverage continues. Chris Brown, Steve 961 00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: Tasker with you, and we'll be hearing from Joshua Palmer 962 00:48:59,080 --> 00:49:02,640 Speaker 1: from his post practice press conference as well as Keyon 963 00:49:02,760 --> 00:49:05,120 Speaker 1: Coleman this hour, so be sure to stay tuned for that. 964 00:49:05,920 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna say, Steve, I would say through six 965 00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:14,200 Speaker 1: days of camp, the team element that has encouraged me 966 00:49:14,440 --> 00:49:19,160 Speaker 1: the most has been the performance of the run front 967 00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 1: defensively for the Bills. And I realize only two days 968 00:49:23,680 --> 00:49:27,640 Speaker 1: in pads, which are the last two, but I just 969 00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:30,800 Speaker 1: feel the way in which they have fit up the 970 00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:36,200 Speaker 1: run has been far more stifling on a consistent basis 971 00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: than we've seen in recent camps. So it has me 972 00:49:40,160 --> 00:49:46,480 Speaker 1: hopeful that Buffalo's run defense will be I'm confident it 973 00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:49,120 Speaker 1: will be better. I don't yet know how much better, 974 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:52,600 Speaker 1: but the signs we're seeing here are probably the thing 975 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:56,440 Speaker 1: that has me most encouraged of anything about this football 976 00:49:56,520 --> 00:49:57,520 Speaker 1: team going into the Sea. 977 00:49:57,680 --> 00:50:01,600 Speaker 2: Yeah. The story of camp going in was you know, 978 00:50:01,800 --> 00:50:03,759 Speaker 2: how good will the defense be able to be? With 979 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:07,480 Speaker 2: all the new faces and getting younger and more athletic. 980 00:50:08,280 --> 00:50:10,480 Speaker 2: That was their goal was to get that way. And 981 00:50:10,560 --> 00:50:12,480 Speaker 2: it's all well and good, but she still needs your 982 00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:17,680 Speaker 2: defense to be productive. You're right, the early signs are good. 983 00:50:19,120 --> 00:50:21,640 Speaker 2: We'll have to wait and see in how much better 984 00:50:21,719 --> 00:50:24,200 Speaker 2: it is. But that I'll say it again, this team's 985 00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 2: gonna go as far as this defense carries it. Yeah, 986 00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,680 Speaker 2: and that's the offense is a given. I hate to 987 00:50:29,719 --> 00:50:31,320 Speaker 2: say it like that because it sounds flippant. 988 00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:32,320 Speaker 7: I don't know. 989 00:50:32,400 --> 00:50:36,520 Speaker 2: A lot goes into it but that's not Josh Allen. 990 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:37,719 Speaker 2: On that side of the ball, they're going to be 991 00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:39,200 Speaker 2: able to keep you in games, are gonna be able 992 00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,920 Speaker 2: to score, They're gonna be able to control the ball, 993 00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:43,959 Speaker 2: control the clock. They're gonna have big playability. They're gonna 994 00:50:43,960 --> 00:50:46,560 Speaker 2: have ball controllability. They're gonna be able to run it. 995 00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,000 Speaker 2: They're gonna be able to throw it, short pass as, 996 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:52,719 Speaker 2: long passes, run after catch, all of it. This, it's 997 00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:56,719 Speaker 2: fully functional on that side of the ball. The other 998 00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:59,960 Speaker 2: side of the ball without the turnover margin last year, 999 00:51:00,719 --> 00:51:03,080 Speaker 2: this team's in a world to hurt. Now they may 1000 00:51:03,160 --> 00:51:06,120 Speaker 2: be able to do that again, and that's great, but 1001 00:51:06,280 --> 00:51:09,920 Speaker 2: ultimately you gotta stop the run right and force teams 1002 00:51:09,960 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 2: into third and long and then get them off the field. 1003 00:51:12,440 --> 00:51:13,520 Speaker 2: They couldn't do either of those. 1004 00:51:13,600 --> 00:51:16,000 Speaker 1: Let's right, And we talked to Cole Bishop about that yesterday. 1005 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:18,040 Speaker 1: You know, third down defense was an issue. They were 1006 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:22,480 Speaker 1: twenty ninth in the league, and it was in his eyes, 1007 00:51:23,320 --> 00:51:28,360 Speaker 1: the inability to match rush pass rush with their coverage 1008 00:51:28,880 --> 00:51:32,560 Speaker 1: one or the other side was lacking. Either they couldn't 1009 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:34,560 Speaker 1: cover long enough to let the rush get there, or 1010 00:51:34,600 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: the rush could not get there fast enough to help 1011 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,920 Speaker 1: the coverage on the back end, and that was the 1012 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: Achilles heel of the defense, and it proved to be 1013 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:44,919 Speaker 1: a monumental task to get off the field on third down. 1014 00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:50,200 Speaker 1: And you know, if you look at the whole thing 1015 00:51:51,440 --> 00:51:55,040 Speaker 1: and the moves that the team made this offseason, it 1016 00:51:55,120 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: was clear a they felt they needed to get bigger 1017 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,720 Speaker 1: on the interior. It's clear that they felt they needed 1018 00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:06,160 Speaker 1: to get more bodies and more length on the edges. 1019 00:52:07,080 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 1: Bosa Jackson. You know, these are guys that are six 1020 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:14,200 Speaker 1: six sixty seven and you have the beef in the 1021 00:52:14,239 --> 00:52:20,520 Speaker 1: middle now Ogan Jobi and TJ. Sanders, Dion Walker a big, 1022 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:23,520 Speaker 1: huge men that you're adding to the equation. 1023 00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 2: Now, still still got Dake one to come in, Yeah 1024 00:52:26,200 --> 00:52:28,320 Speaker 2: in a minute, and of course Dion Walker if he 1025 00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,480 Speaker 2: can pan out and continue to progress and get on 1026 00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:32,760 Speaker 2: the field. Yeah, they did get bigger. 1027 00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:35,359 Speaker 1: They so they knew that was a priority. And then 1028 00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,279 Speaker 1: we know how they addressed, you know, the secondary with 1029 00:52:38,360 --> 00:52:40,600 Speaker 1: Max Harrison the top pick and then even later in 1030 00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:43,879 Speaker 1: the draft with Dorian Strong in the sixth round. As 1031 00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,320 Speaker 1: far as the draft class goes, I think the Bills 1032 00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: are presumably hopeful that Harrison can be a starting caliber 1033 00:52:52,080 --> 00:52:56,080 Speaker 1: player at corner, and that TJ. Sanders, if he's not starting, 1034 00:52:56,320 --> 00:53:00,240 Speaker 1: is a major rotational piece on the defensive interior for them. 1035 00:53:01,080 --> 00:53:04,360 Speaker 1: Where Landon Jackson fits in, where Dion Walker fits in, 1036 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:06,319 Speaker 1: We'll have to wait and see. I don't think we've 1037 00:53:06,360 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 1: seen enough of them to know definitively how much they 1038 00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,680 Speaker 1: will contribute in year one. But one guy who might 1039 00:53:14,760 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: be contributing more than anyone anticipated is the guy we 1040 00:53:18,040 --> 00:53:22,480 Speaker 1: talked to Connor McGovern about Jackson Hawes. He has clearly 1041 00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:25,719 Speaker 1: stood out to him. We know he's a supremely intelligent 1042 00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:29,600 Speaker 1: player by nature of his Ivy League background, having graduated 1043 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:31,600 Speaker 1: from Yale and then going to grad school at Georgia 1044 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,760 Speaker 1: Tech to play one more year down there with the Yellowjackets. 1045 00:53:36,120 --> 00:53:41,920 Speaker 1: He's mastering complex blocking assignments, you know where, oh, I'm 1046 00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,279 Speaker 1: gonna help here, and then I'm gonna climb and I'm 1047 00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: gonna kick this guy out on this run play, and 1048 00:53:47,960 --> 00:53:51,160 Speaker 1: there he is. And Joe Brady talked about Jackson Hawes 1049 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,960 Speaker 1: a little bit in his press conference this morning, where 1050 00:53:54,040 --> 00:53:57,440 Speaker 1: he essentially said there's two sides to Jackson Hawes. He's 1051 00:53:57,480 --> 00:54:00,480 Speaker 1: either gonna be really quiet and not say anything or 1052 00:54:00,520 --> 00:54:04,160 Speaker 1: he's going to talk your ear off, and I find 1053 00:54:04,200 --> 00:54:07,200 Speaker 1: that interesting because you know, it's a guy that I 1054 00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:11,239 Speaker 1: think is trying to respect the fact that I am 1055 00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:14,239 Speaker 1: a rookie. I am here to listen and learn, not 1056 00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:18,880 Speaker 1: to be heard. But if you engage him in conversation, 1057 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:22,080 Speaker 1: you might be chatt in a while. But I just 1058 00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:27,400 Speaker 1: think I remember when he was drafted and the draft gurus, 1059 00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, whether it was NFL Network or on ESPN 1060 00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:32,239 Speaker 1: during the draft, said this was considered one of the 1061 00:54:32,320 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 1: best blocking tight ends in the entire class. We've seen 1062 00:54:36,400 --> 00:54:40,000 Speaker 1: some of that on display, albeit just with two days 1063 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:43,040 Speaker 1: in pads. He hasn't been perfect, and I'm sure he'd 1064 00:54:43,080 --> 00:54:45,680 Speaker 1: be the first person to tell you, but I think 1065 00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:49,719 Speaker 1: it's evident that they drafted him with the third tight 1066 00:54:49,840 --> 00:54:53,560 Speaker 1: end role in mind, behind Knox and Kincaid. And to 1067 00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 1: this point, I think he has filled the bill in 1068 00:54:56,840 --> 00:54:59,280 Speaker 1: terms of what they used to require of Quinton Morris. 1069 00:54:59,680 --> 00:55:01,680 Speaker 1: And I'll take it a step further. I think he's 1070 00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:04,480 Speaker 1: going to be able to offer a bit more in 1071 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:08,319 Speaker 1: the passing game because he is a legit six' five tight. 1072 00:55:08,480 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: End Quentin morris was six to two AND i know 1073 00:55:11,440 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: three inches in height may not seem like a, lot 1074 00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,280 Speaker 1: but if you look At Jackson hawes and you remember 1075 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:18,120 Speaker 1: the stature Of Quentin, morris there's a. 1076 00:55:18,160 --> 00:55:22,040 Speaker 2: Difference all the remains. NOW i mean we've, heard you, 1077 00:55:22,120 --> 00:55:25,759 Speaker 2: Know connor mc govern talked about, him and we've been 1078 00:55:25,800 --> 00:55:29,719 Speaker 2: hearing about him and watching. Him they drafted, him just 1079 00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:31,640 Speaker 2: like they always tell us. That we didn't ask him about. 1080 00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:34,480 Speaker 2: It but they got a plan for. Him. Yep you 1081 00:55:34,560 --> 00:55:38,359 Speaker 2: Know Jordan, hancock they've got a finger quotes timeline for. Him, 1082 00:55:38,560 --> 00:55:41,880 Speaker 2: well it's no different With. Hawes how they're gonna use, 1083 00:55:41,960 --> 00:55:44,359 Speaker 2: Him let's. SEE i think first they're gonna find, Out, 1084 00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:47,600 Speaker 2: okay you're doing, this and like you heard, mcgovernment he's 1085 00:55:47,640 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 2: doing some pretty delicate and intricate PASS i mean run 1086 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:57,440 Speaker 2: blocks and he's folded into that role. Already so or 1087 00:55:57,560 --> 00:55:59,839 Speaker 2: what else can he? Do and how that pans, out 1088 00:56:00,239 --> 00:56:02,440 Speaker 2: how they choose to use it is really the. Question 1089 00:56:03,080 --> 00:56:06,240 Speaker 2: it does give you some, flexibility and it does because 1090 00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:08,279 Speaker 2: it cast it puts questions in your in. Mind we 1091 00:56:08,280 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 2: follow this, team we talk about him all day every, 1092 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:12,160 Speaker 2: day and we don't know what they're gonna do with 1093 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:16,680 Speaker 2: three tight ends And Alec anderson And Ty johnson And James. 1094 00:56:16,760 --> 00:56:24,160 Speaker 2: Cook all the, possibilities all the possibilities are you, know? 1095 00:56:25,000 --> 00:56:28,399 Speaker 2: Endless you. Know so that's what we don't. 1096 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,879 Speaker 1: Know and that's WHY i Asked connor McGovern that, question 1097 00:56:32,520 --> 00:56:36,880 Speaker 1: BECAUSE i said to, him how much more does this 1098 00:56:37,040 --> 00:56:41,560 Speaker 1: increase the? Unpredictability and here's another. THING i think a 1099 00:56:41,640 --> 00:56:45,160 Speaker 1: lot of teams over the years offensively have copied and 1100 00:56:45,280 --> 00:56:48,800 Speaker 1: borrowed things from The Kansas City. Chiefs and The chiefs 1101 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,680 Speaker 1: were a team last year that ran thirteen personnel more 1102 00:56:51,719 --> 00:56:54,120 Speaker 1: than any other team in. Football, now that was partly 1103 00:56:54,160 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: out of necessity Because Rashi rice was out for the, 1104 00:56:56,960 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: Year Hollywood brown missed most of the. Year they didn't 1105 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:00,719 Speaker 1: have receivers to put on the field that they had 1106 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:03,520 Speaker 1: enough confidence. In so instead they turned to their tight 1107 00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,600 Speaker 1: end corps and they ran three. Guys they Had, kelsey 1108 00:57:06,680 --> 00:57:10,120 Speaker 1: they Had Noah, gray and they Had Peyton hendershot and they, 1109 00:57:10,239 --> 00:57:13,080 Speaker 1: decided we're gonna go this way with three tight. Ends 1110 00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,279 Speaker 1: they ran thirteen personnel more than anybody in the, league 1111 00:57:15,560 --> 00:57:20,160 Speaker 1: and for, them it worked just well enough to win football. 1112 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:22,040 Speaker 1: Games they were behind in a lot of, games but 1113 00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:25,000 Speaker 1: they used that three tight end grouping very. Well AND 1114 00:57:25,080 --> 00:57:28,720 Speaker 1: i Think Joe brady looks at that and, says with 1115 00:57:28,840 --> 00:57:32,680 Speaker 1: a guy Like Jackson, hawes we can incorporate true thirteen 1116 00:57:32,800 --> 00:57:33,960 Speaker 1: personnel into. 1117 00:57:33,800 --> 00:57:34,400 Speaker 2: Some of what we. 1118 00:57:34,520 --> 00:57:35,960 Speaker 1: Do, Also i'm not saying it's going to be a 1119 00:57:36,040 --> 00:57:39,880 Speaker 1: major component Of buffalo's, offense but it's something you can turn. 1120 00:57:39,960 --> 00:57:42,840 Speaker 1: To because you even Heard connor sit here and say. 1121 00:57:42,920 --> 00:57:45,720 Speaker 1: It he, said, look when we Brought Alec anderson on the, 1122 00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:48,200 Speaker 1: field one of three things was gonna. Happen but we 1123 00:57:48,280 --> 00:57:51,120 Speaker 1: were so good at it it didn't matter we executed it. 1124 00:57:51,160 --> 00:57:53,640 Speaker 1: Anyway but they could plan for. It now they've had 1125 00:57:53,640 --> 00:57:56,280 Speaker 1: a full off season to plan for ways to stop 1126 00:57:56,680 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: what the jumbo package With Alec anderson did on the 1127 00:57:58,920 --> 00:58:02,440 Speaker 1: field last. Year how you come with true thirteen, personnel 1128 00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:04,720 Speaker 1: that's a different, animal because now you got to worry 1129 00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: About Jackson hawes leaking out and catching a passing the 1130 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: flat and turning it up the. 1131 00:58:08,400 --> 00:58:10,920 Speaker 2: Field training camp is all about installing everything you can 1132 00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,520 Speaker 2: possibly think, of and installing it in a, way finding 1133 00:58:14,520 --> 00:58:16,360 Speaker 2: out who your people, are, who how you run it. 1134 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:18,920 Speaker 2: Best three tight, ends two tight, ends one tight, ends 1135 00:58:19,000 --> 00:58:22,920 Speaker 2: no tight, ends two running, backs one running, back no running, 1136 00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:27,240 Speaker 2: back one, wide two, wides three, wides four, wives five, 1137 00:58:27,360 --> 00:58:30,560 Speaker 2: Wide all of that stuff is on the, table six offensive, 1138 00:58:30,600 --> 00:58:33,480 Speaker 2: linemen the whole. Thing and then you go through the 1139 00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,280 Speaker 2: season and what you know this week is, like you 1140 00:58:36,360 --> 00:58:38,480 Speaker 2: know what would kill this? Team when you was killing this, 1141 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:40,600 Speaker 2: team they have no answer for three tight. Ends well 1142 00:58:40,640 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 2: we got, it, yeah, right so you can pull it 1143 00:58:42,680 --> 00:58:45,000 Speaker 2: out when you need. It it's not you know certain 1144 00:58:45,040 --> 00:58:47,440 Speaker 2: teams you run more than anything. Else it's because you 1145 00:58:47,520 --> 00:58:50,840 Speaker 2: have personnel problems you've. Got you Lose Rashid, rice you 1146 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,400 Speaker 2: Lose Hollywood, brown you lose these guys to. Injury if 1147 00:58:54,440 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 2: you're The chiefs or The fear The, bills you Lose, 1148 00:58:56,960 --> 00:58:59,120 Speaker 2: knox you Lose. Kincaid all of a, sudden well what 1149 00:58:59,160 --> 00:59:00,400 Speaker 2: do you? Do, okay now we're going to have to 1150 00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:02,840 Speaker 2: move to this other personnel. Form you got all this 1151 00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:05,520 Speaker 2: stuff available to, You you've only got you've got the 1152 00:59:05,600 --> 00:59:09,000 Speaker 2: same fifty three. Slots you've got to fill with enough 1153 00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:13,000 Speaker 2: guys on the offensive side to use every possible combination 1154 00:59:13,120 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 2: of personnel you can and do it at a high. 1155 00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,280 Speaker 2: Level the reason you don't see teams doing things in 1156 00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 2: certain personnel combinations because their players. Stink that's why they 1157 00:59:23,080 --> 00:59:26,880 Speaker 2: don't do it their backup. Stink their third tight ends can't, 1158 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:31,080 Speaker 2: win so they don't have three tight. Ends might be 1159 00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 2: a different story. Here that might be a different story 1160 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,800 Speaker 2: now you. Might you, know The bills they can go 1161 00:59:36,000 --> 00:59:38,680 Speaker 2: four wide five because there's not much difference From Keon 1162 00:59:38,800 --> 00:59:40,440 Speaker 2: coleman down to the fifth, wide which might in this 1163 00:59:40,520 --> 00:59:44,560 Speaker 2: case Be levish kus. Channel you, know you could put 1164 00:59:44,640 --> 00:59:47,400 Speaker 2: five wides out. There you feel like you can do 1165 00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,520 Speaker 2: that as A bill's Off and that's why, this you, 1166 00:59:49,560 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 2: know With josh pulling the trigger changes everything. Too but 1167 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,880 Speaker 2: you feel like you can put, anything any combination you 1168 00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 2: want out there and win. Someplace not every, team let's 1169 00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:02,040 Speaker 2: think back to the. Drought not every team thinks they've 1170 01:00:02,080 --> 01:00:04,720 Speaker 2: got a personnel combination that will win against anything any time. 1171 01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:07,200 Speaker 2: Anywhere Connor mcgovernal'll sit here and tell you and and 1172 01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 2: the TEAMS i played on at, times we don't care 1173 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,600 Speaker 2: what you. Do, defensively we got this and you can't stop. 1174 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:14,520 Speaker 2: It let's go so we. Don't, then not only did 1175 01:00:14,800 --> 01:00:17,439 Speaker 2: The bills of the nineties and Then No huddle not change, 1176 01:00:17,520 --> 01:00:19,920 Speaker 2: personnel they didn't even change. 1177 01:00:19,960 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: Formations, yeah no emotion. 1178 01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,800 Speaker 2: Either, YEAH i, mean are you kidding? 1179 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:24,920 Speaker 5: Me? 1180 01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah so you find out later there's Five hall Of 1181 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:31,640 Speaker 2: famers on the. Field, okay that. Helps that, helps that's 1182 01:00:31,680 --> 01:00:33,600 Speaker 2: what we're talking. About you don't need you got A 1183 01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 2: hall Of famer taking snaps, here but everybody, else you, 1184 01:00:37,440 --> 01:00:39,920 Speaker 2: know they're. Interchangeable and that's right where this. Offense that's 1185 01:00:39,960 --> 01:00:42,160 Speaker 2: why this offense set a franchise record last. Year this 1186 01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:44,400 Speaker 2: offensive line is as good as any in the. League 1187 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:46,240 Speaker 2: that's why they've got all this stuff going. On and 1188 01:00:46,280 --> 01:00:49,360 Speaker 2: that's WHY i guy Like Jackson hawes. Hmm that's a 1189 01:00:49,440 --> 01:00:51,520 Speaker 2: new that's a new tool that's going to give this, 1190 01:00:51,680 --> 01:00:54,280 Speaker 2: team that team and that team on our schedule all 1191 01:00:54,400 --> 01:00:56,640 Speaker 2: kinds of. Problems that's where we're at, here and that's 1192 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,760 Speaker 2: that's that's what this training camp is all. About, yeah 1193 01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,400 Speaker 2: they want to find out about, it get their fifth but, 1194 01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,160 Speaker 2: man if you can find one more tool that at 1195 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:04,880 Speaker 2: some point during the season is going to be the 1196 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,280 Speaker 2: answer that the other team doesn't you know. Questions, yeah, 1197 01:01:09,480 --> 01:01:10,880 Speaker 2: yeah that's that's how you get the one. 1198 01:01:10,960 --> 01:01:13,600 Speaker 1: Seed let's, uh let's squeeze in a phone call here 1199 01:01:13,640 --> 01:01:15,640 Speaker 1: before we go to the post practice. Podium we're gonna 1200 01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:17,440 Speaker 1: go To mark And West. Seneca what's Up, Mark. 1201 01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:22,960 Speaker 6: Hey, guys a couple of quick. Questions Number, One i'd 1202 01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:25,640 Speaker 6: like you guys to comment on the play Of Joshua 1203 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:28,320 Speaker 6: palmer And Elijah morrik BECAUSE i feel those are two 1204 01:01:28,440 --> 01:01:29,840 Speaker 6: LEGITIMATE nfl. 1205 01:01:29,760 --> 01:01:33,040 Speaker 8: Established talents AND i think they really upgrade our receiving 1206 01:01:33,080 --> 01:01:36,480 Speaker 8: group as a. Whole And i'm really curious what's going 1207 01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,920 Speaker 8: on WITH cb two Between tredavius And Max. Harriston do 1208 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:42,600 Speaker 8: you guys feel well what you've seen so far that 1209 01:01:42,760 --> 01:01:45,360 Speaker 8: the play OF cb, two either as a combination or 1210 01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:48,960 Speaker 8: either one, individually has been upgraded from where we were 1211 01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,000 Speaker 8: the last couple of. Years and the last Question i'll 1212 01:01:52,040 --> 01:01:54,680 Speaker 8: throw out here real quick is how obvious is it 1213 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:59,760 Speaker 8: that that our number one, Guy josh is in charge 1214 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,080 Speaker 8: out they're on a daily, basis Because i've heard some 1215 01:02:02,240 --> 01:02:05,440 Speaker 8: things through the social media and or whatever That josh 1216 01:02:05,560 --> 01:02:07,920 Speaker 8: is really a charge out there is the number one 1217 01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,840 Speaker 8: guy in control of. Everything so just curious about all that. 1218 01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:15,800 Speaker 1: Stuff sure, Thing, yeah no, Problem, Mark i'll say, this 1219 01:02:16,560 --> 01:02:18,120 Speaker 1: AND i said this on the show the other day 1220 01:02:19,080 --> 01:02:23,040 Speaker 1: When i'm When maddie was on with. Me josh through 1221 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:28,480 Speaker 1: the first six days of, camp his ball, placement his 1222 01:02:28,760 --> 01:02:34,080 Speaker 1: touch and his layering of throws has been elite like 1223 01:02:34,560 --> 01:02:41,920 Speaker 1: elite where even with my almost getting almost taking his 1224 01:02:43,000 --> 01:02:46,800 Speaker 1: supreme skills for granted and still impressed by the layering 1225 01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:49,640 Speaker 1: of his throws to the second and third levels for 1226 01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,400 Speaker 1: big plays in the passing, game it's been impressive to. 1227 01:02:52,440 --> 01:02:54,160 Speaker 1: See and, yes he's in complete command of the. 1228 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:55,600 Speaker 3: Offense well, yeah what what? 1229 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: Notice what people usually notice in this, situation it's not 1230 01:03:00,200 --> 01:03:02,880 Speaker 2: just how he's, playing but what happens between the, plays 1231 01:03:03,640 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 2: the stuff you see outside of the. Highlights When josh 1232 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:10,160 Speaker 2: is saying, no you're, out you're. In he's making. Substitutions 1233 01:03:10,640 --> 01:03:16,760 Speaker 2: when he's calling, defenses when he's given the offense signals 1234 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:20,040 Speaker 2: and verbals verbiage before the snap because he knows what 1235 01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:22,240 Speaker 2: the defense is going to be because he's watched film on, 1236 01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:27,160 Speaker 2: it he's seen. It that kind of thing when you 1237 01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:30,440 Speaker 2: get out on one on ones And josh is shaking 1238 01:03:30,680 --> 01:03:32,400 Speaker 2: routes off and giving him a different route because he 1239 01:03:32,440 --> 01:03:35,800 Speaker 2: wants to see the receiver run a different. Route that's 1240 01:03:35,840 --> 01:03:37,840 Speaker 2: what you mean when you say when you're in, charge 1241 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:41,480 Speaker 2: people do what you, say and you have the ability 1242 01:03:41,560 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 2: to know what you're doing and say we should be doing, this, 1243 01:03:43,800 --> 01:03:45,720 Speaker 2: this this this and, this and it happens and it. 1244 01:03:45,800 --> 01:03:48,360 Speaker 2: Works that's a guy being in. Charge that's what a 1245 01:03:48,480 --> 01:03:52,480 Speaker 2: quarterback In josh's, position who's the DEFENDING mvp and who's 1246 01:03:52,640 --> 01:03:55,160 Speaker 2: had this kind of success and this is where he should. 1247 01:03:55,200 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 5: Be. 1248 01:03:55,400 --> 01:03:59,840 Speaker 1: Yes, Absolutely Joshua PALMER i think has made a STEADY 1249 01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:04,959 Speaker 1: i don't want to say. Climb what's the steady path 1250 01:04:05,240 --> 01:04:09,760 Speaker 1: through the course of training. CAMP i think he has not, 1251 01:04:10,160 --> 01:04:14,600 Speaker 1: Exploded BUT i don't think he's been invisible. EITHER i 1252 01:04:14,680 --> 01:04:18,520 Speaker 1: think he's been somewhere in. Between AND i almost feel 1253 01:04:18,640 --> 01:04:22,240 Speaker 1: like he's doing a slow burn through training, camp if 1254 01:04:22,280 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 1: that makes. Sense you notice him just about every, day 1255 01:04:26,360 --> 01:04:29,600 Speaker 1: but he's not out there like dominating the, scene if 1256 01:04:29,640 --> 01:04:33,400 Speaker 1: that makes. Sense BUT i think He's it's very clear 1257 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:38,280 Speaker 1: to me that he's at a good place as far 1258 01:04:38,360 --> 01:04:42,400 Speaker 1: as his rapport With josh is, concerned AND i would 1259 01:04:42,440 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: only expect that to lead to more and more volume 1260 01:04:47,120 --> 01:04:49,800 Speaker 1: as we move. ALONG i don't think we've reached that point, 1261 01:04:49,920 --> 01:04:52,240 Speaker 1: yet BUT i think by the time we're on the 1262 01:04:52,360 --> 01:04:55,360 Speaker 1: cusp of the regular, season those two will be in 1263 01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:56,000 Speaker 1: a very good. 1264 01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:58,600 Speaker 2: Place, YEAH i think it's going to be hard to 1265 01:04:58,680 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 2: discern how important they're gonna be until we see him. 1266 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,200 Speaker 2: PLAY i think they're veteran guys who know how to 1267 01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:07,560 Speaker 2: survive a training. Camp they're gonna do everything that's asked 1268 01:05:07,600 --> 01:05:10,200 Speaker 2: of doing. Them they may not do anything spectacular for two, 1269 01:05:10,280 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 2: weeks but in a game they're, gonna you, know they're 1270 01:05:13,640 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 2: gonna catch ninety percent of their, targets run after the, 1271 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:20,080 Speaker 2: catch move the, chains and do everything they're asked to, 1272 01:05:20,120 --> 01:05:22,760 Speaker 2: do you. Know SO i think they know, that you, 1273 01:05:22,800 --> 01:05:25,720 Speaker 2: know making a great catch on A tuesday At Saint 1274 01:05:25,800 --> 01:05:28,680 Speaker 2: John fisher is very, nice but that's not what they 1275 01:05:28,760 --> 01:05:31,520 Speaker 2: were signed to. Do AND i think there's a little 1276 01:05:31,520 --> 01:05:35,520 Speaker 2: bit of professionalism involved with those. Two they know how 1277 01:05:35,600 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 2: to navigate their way through and it's being, solid consistent 1278 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,360 Speaker 2: and never having a Bad it's not so much about 1279 01:05:41,400 --> 01:05:44,520 Speaker 2: having great. Days it's about never having a poor. Day 1280 01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 2: but the only thing people notice about you is when 1281 01:05:47,200 --> 01:05:48,760 Speaker 2: you make a good. Play they never see you take 1282 01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:52,480 Speaker 2: a bad. Rep they may not notice every, rep but 1283 01:05:52,600 --> 01:05:55,600 Speaker 2: they never remember you for taking a bad. Rep that's 1284 01:05:56,640 --> 01:05:58,920 Speaker 2: a level of professionalism that you kind of learn as 1285 01:05:58,960 --> 01:06:00,440 Speaker 2: you navigate your career and. 1286 01:06:00,480 --> 01:06:03,240 Speaker 1: Then Quickly Elijah, moore WHO i think has a very 1287 01:06:03,800 --> 01:06:07,640 Speaker 1: similar skill, set To Curtis samuel and even in some 1288 01:06:07,800 --> 01:06:11,600 Speaker 1: respects To Khalil. Shakir Although moore has better, speed he 1289 01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:15,480 Speaker 1: missed yesterday with general soreness back today AND i think 1290 01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:17,320 Speaker 1: they were easing him in so we didn't see a 1291 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:22,160 Speaker 1: lot from. Him BUT i think we've seen flashes and 1292 01:06:22,360 --> 01:06:25,120 Speaker 1: enough of them through the first four or five days 1293 01:06:25,200 --> 01:06:28,720 Speaker 1: to be encouraged about where that rapport is headed within 1294 01:06:28,800 --> 01:06:31,320 Speaker 1: the framework of the passing game as. Well and then 1295 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:34,800 Speaker 1: as for THE cb two Competition Tradevius white has been 1296 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,520 Speaker 1: out there for the first four or five snaps and 1297 01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:41,439 Speaker 1: then Sometimes Max harriston will rotate in before the ones 1298 01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:44,080 Speaker 1: are off the field for a snap or, two and 1299 01:06:44,160 --> 01:06:46,080 Speaker 1: then the twos will come on And max will stay 1300 01:06:46,120 --> 01:06:49,840 Speaker 1: on with. Them but now with his injury, today the 1301 01:06:50,000 --> 01:06:52,160 Speaker 1: nature of which we do not, know the severity of 1302 01:06:52,240 --> 01:06:55,920 Speaker 1: which we do not, know we'll have to wait and. 1303 01:06:56,000 --> 01:07:00,240 Speaker 1: See my suspicion is, well tomorrow's an off, day so 1304 01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:02,560 Speaker 1: we'll get the benefit of the off. Day we'll see 1305 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:07,200 Speaker 1: if he's on the field On. Thursday just watching the 1306 01:07:07,360 --> 01:07:11,439 Speaker 1: tape of you, know the athletic trainers examining him after 1307 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:15,160 Speaker 1: he took the knock on the field during a pass rush. 1308 01:07:15,280 --> 01:07:19,080 Speaker 1: Drill they were examining his right. Knee we saw that 1309 01:07:20,120 --> 01:07:22,320 Speaker 1: he did walk off the field under his own, power 1310 01:07:22,480 --> 01:07:25,880 Speaker 1: so hopefully he is good to. Go we want to pivot, 1311 01:07:25,920 --> 01:07:30,360 Speaker 1: though now to the post practice podium Where Joshua palmer 1312 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,680 Speaker 1: addressed the. Media he asked About joshua you can hear 1313 01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:35,480 Speaker 1: from him in his own. Words so here Now Joshua. 1314 01:07:35,200 --> 01:07:38,640 Speaker 9: Palmer's training camp and going for Young you guys have 1315 01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:39,680 Speaker 9: two days now full. 1316 01:07:39,760 --> 01:07:41,480 Speaker 10: Pads what's this experienced been? 1317 01:07:41,600 --> 01:07:44,720 Speaker 11: Like it's been hot for. Sure Uh. 1318 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,520 Speaker 12: No my wife was just telling me that there's fans 1319 01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:51,760 Speaker 12: falling out in the stands and there are stretchers and 1320 01:07:51,800 --> 01:07:55,600 Speaker 12: they're like gold bills on the way. Out so, no 1321 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:58,480 Speaker 12: if that explains anything about training, camp it's that is really. 1322 01:07:58,520 --> 01:08:02,720 Speaker 12: Hot what very competitive and uh and we're getting to. 1323 01:08:02,800 --> 01:08:06,240 Speaker 10: It you've been able to build your connection with Josh 1324 01:08:06,280 --> 01:08:06,640 Speaker 10: allen so. 1325 01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:10,920 Speaker 11: FAR i would describe it as. 1326 01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:18,080 Speaker 12: Us having to be consistent with the connection in terms 1327 01:08:18,120 --> 01:08:20,760 Speaker 12: of after every Play i'm going to him And i'm, 1328 01:08:20,760 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 12: saying is that where you wanted me to? 1329 01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:25,400 Speaker 11: Be or is that where you wanted? Yet, yeah you 1330 01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:26,400 Speaker 11: know What i'm trying to, say. 1331 01:08:27,920 --> 01:08:32,000 Speaker 12: And asking for, feedback especially after, practice asking him what 1332 01:08:32,200 --> 01:08:34,000 Speaker 12: routes he wants to, Run where does he see me 1333 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,320 Speaker 12: coming out of his? BREAK i, mean just a lot 1334 01:08:36,400 --> 01:08:39,000 Speaker 12: of reps and doing it over and over and over again. 1335 01:08:40,560 --> 01:08:43,040 Speaker 10: From the other receivers in the receiving room. 1336 01:08:43,960 --> 01:08:46,680 Speaker 11: In terms of what my connection With josh just you your. 1337 01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:48,439 Speaker 10: Routes like you, know after like the first couple of, 1338 01:08:48,479 --> 01:08:50,439 Speaker 10: practices you were walking off and you, know you guys 1339 01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:52,880 Speaker 10: are doing extra. Work is that part of building that 1340 01:08:53,360 --> 01:08:55,839 Speaker 10: connection as a receiver, room just them giving the receivers 1341 01:08:55,880 --> 01:08:56,759 Speaker 10: giving you additional. 1342 01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:57,200 Speaker 3: Pointers. 1343 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah because they've been in the offense for a 1344 01:08:59,520 --> 01:09:02,479 Speaker 12: longer period of time THAN i, have so they know 1345 01:09:02,560 --> 01:09:04,400 Speaker 12: how they're out supposed to, look so then they can 1346 01:09:04,439 --> 01:09:06,679 Speaker 12: share with me How i'm supposed to get out Where 1347 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:08,680 Speaker 12: josh is throwing it and that that type of. 1348 01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:11,519 Speaker 9: Stuff how much of a mindset thing is that for? 1349 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,240 Speaker 9: YOU i, mean just being in this offense for the first, 1350 01:09:14,320 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 9: year Knowing i'm gonna connect With josh after every ROUTE i, 1351 01:09:18,240 --> 01:09:18,800 Speaker 9: Run we're going. 1352 01:09:18,800 --> 01:09:19,680 Speaker 5: To do stuff off the. 1353 01:09:19,760 --> 01:09:22,400 Speaker 9: Field that's that's a big. Workload how do you kind 1354 01:09:22,479 --> 01:09:25,479 Speaker 9: of compartmentalize everything to make sure you're in the place 1355 01:09:25,520 --> 01:09:25,960 Speaker 9: you need to be. 1356 01:09:27,000 --> 01:09:29,559 Speaker 12: WELL i run the route HOW i Think i'm supposed 1357 01:09:29,560 --> 01:09:31,560 Speaker 12: to run, it AND i just run it, fast you, 1358 01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:34,519 Speaker 12: know without. Thinking so it makes it black and white 1359 01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,840 Speaker 12: for him because If i'm, hesitating then he's. 1360 01:09:37,080 --> 01:09:38,439 Speaker 11: Hesitating so. 1361 01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,200 Speaker 12: That's HOW i normally come into, it Is i'm going 1362 01:09:42,240 --> 01:09:43,679 Speaker 12: to run it HOW i think it's supposed to, look 1363 01:09:43,720 --> 01:09:46,519 Speaker 12: and if it needs to, change he would tell. Me 1364 01:09:46,720 --> 01:09:48,240 Speaker 12: and if, not if he says it was, good THEN 1365 01:09:48,280 --> 01:09:49,160 Speaker 12: i continue to run it that. 1366 01:09:49,200 --> 01:09:52,599 Speaker 5: Way this, morning that one thing has stood out about 1367 01:09:52,600 --> 01:09:55,040 Speaker 5: you is the level of detail and attention. 1368 01:09:54,920 --> 01:09:57,200 Speaker 1: You kind of were and you're working With josh after 1369 01:09:57,320 --> 01:09:58,040 Speaker 1: practice of. 1370 01:09:58,720 --> 01:10:01,479 Speaker 5: The route and, house and he said sometimes he's, LIKE 1371 01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 5: i gotta remind, You gosh that so you can go 1372 01:10:03,439 --> 01:10:07,720 Speaker 5: out and play. Football but your attention to that specific details. 1373 01:10:07,320 --> 01:10:09,000 Speaker 2: Of, Everything why is that so important to? 1374 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:11,519 Speaker 1: You and how is that just kind of as maybe 1375 01:10:11,560 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: a staple of your game throughout your. 1376 01:10:13,080 --> 01:10:15,920 Speaker 12: Career, Yeah i've heard it a. Lot SOMETIMES i think 1377 01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,360 Speaker 12: a little bit too. Much it could be a, weakness 1378 01:10:19,400 --> 01:10:21,120 Speaker 12: but it's also a. Strength it's BECAUSE i want to be, 1379 01:10:21,240 --> 01:10:25,439 Speaker 12: right you. KNOW i don't like, Losing SO i at 1380 01:10:25,520 --> 01:10:30,360 Speaker 12: times overthink myself into a loss Because i'm thinking about 1381 01:10:30,360 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 12: all the other outcomes and WHAT i could have, done 1382 01:10:32,360 --> 01:10:33,720 Speaker 12: WHAT i should have, done WHAT i will, do WHAT 1383 01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:34,920 Speaker 12: i won't, do and a whole bunch of. 1384 01:10:34,920 --> 01:10:36,160 Speaker 11: Different outcomes in my. 1385 01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:40,280 Speaker 12: Mind But i've really just been trying to emphasize just, 1386 01:10:40,760 --> 01:10:43,559 Speaker 12: playing like just, run just run hard and run, fast 1387 01:10:44,240 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 12: get out the, break catch the, ball and we'll watch 1388 01:10:46,880 --> 01:10:48,240 Speaker 12: the film it needs and if it needs to be, 1389 01:10:48,280 --> 01:10:48,960 Speaker 12: fixed and we'll fix. 1390 01:10:49,040 --> 01:10:52,000 Speaker 11: It but you, KNOW i win more reps When i'm not. 1391 01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:53,880 Speaker 11: Thinking so that's just What i'm going to continue to. 1392 01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:57,000 Speaker 11: Do you guys are you guys. 1393 01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 9: Are spending a lot of time together at training camp. 1394 01:10:59,120 --> 01:11:01,439 Speaker 9: Here what have you learned learned About Joe brady as 1395 01:11:01,439 --> 01:11:04,200 Speaker 9: an offensive coordinator as you begin to put this offense. 1396 01:11:04,240 --> 01:11:05,800 Speaker 3: Together he's very. 1397 01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:08,840 Speaker 12: Competitive you, see whenever we do one on ones or 1398 01:11:08,840 --> 01:11:12,639 Speaker 12: whenever we do team drills or seven on, seven he's 1399 01:11:12,760 --> 01:11:16,160 Speaker 12: always the first one there to congratulate guys or talk 1400 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:19,360 Speaker 12: trash to the defense or he really he's always talking 1401 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,639 Speaker 12: about how he's how he hates to, lose but also 1402 01:11:22,800 --> 01:11:26,000 Speaker 12: understanding that we are installing a. DEFENSE i, mean we're 1403 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,360 Speaker 12: all we are installing an. Offense so of, course you 1404 01:11:29,439 --> 01:11:31,280 Speaker 12: know some things are going to be scripted for the. 1405 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:33,439 Speaker 12: Defense some things are gonna be scripted for. Us so 1406 01:11:33,640 --> 01:11:36,439 Speaker 12: it's not getting too concerned with the loss if there 1407 01:11:36,520 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 12: is a, loss because it's you, know it's easy to play. 1408 01:11:39,560 --> 01:11:40,519 Speaker 11: Defense when you know what the play. 1409 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:43,240 Speaker 12: Is that might just mean that might be me right 1410 01:11:43,280 --> 01:11:45,600 Speaker 12: now just being a little a little smart to the, 1411 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,920 Speaker 12: Defense but uh, no it's. 1412 01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:48,120 Speaker 11: Good. 1413 01:11:48,160 --> 01:11:51,800 Speaker 5: Though do you feel like maybe your progression accelerates once 1414 01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 5: the pats come on these past two, days whether it 1415 01:11:53,960 --> 01:11:55,840 Speaker 5: be communication or getting the spots too? 1416 01:11:55,920 --> 01:11:58,719 Speaker 1: Much one to, feel how does your progression maybe change 1417 01:11:58,760 --> 01:11:59,479 Speaker 1: from the first three. 1418 01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:01,240 Speaker 2: Days not in has Fat. 1419 01:12:03,080 --> 01:12:06,439 Speaker 12: For the receiver, position it's almost the. Same the biggest 1420 01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,240 Speaker 12: difference is blocking because now you can actually block the. 1421 01:12:09,320 --> 01:12:12,519 Speaker 12: Defender in terms of just the passing, game it's just 1422 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:14,520 Speaker 12: a little bit more physical because. 1423 01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:15,120 Speaker 11: They can put their hands on. 1424 01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:16,320 Speaker 6: You but. 1425 01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:20,799 Speaker 12: You, know with pads or no, pads, shells no, shells 1426 01:12:21,800 --> 01:12:24,000 Speaker 12: we still need to get to the spot, regardless run 1427 01:12:24,080 --> 01:12:26,560 Speaker 12: the route, regardless just have to up the intensity of the. 1428 01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:30,439 Speaker 12: Physicality that's just the ONLY i wouldn't even say, downfalls 1429 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,160 Speaker 12: just the only thing that you have to prepare, for you, 1430 01:12:32,200 --> 01:12:35,440 Speaker 12: know and after you go a whole off season. 1431 01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:35,960 Speaker 11: Of not being in. 1432 01:12:36,040 --> 01:12:37,920 Speaker 12: Pads you, know you have to get used to being in, 1433 01:12:38,120 --> 01:12:41,880 Speaker 12: pads getting, hit getting, grabbed and then just build the 1434 01:12:41,920 --> 01:12:44,040 Speaker 12: callous for the season in. 1435 01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,920 Speaker 7: Physicality going up against skys like tarn push you define 1436 01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,360 Speaker 7: who you bring that to the table. 1437 01:12:48,160 --> 01:12:48,880 Speaker 1: Every day with step that. 1438 01:12:49,000 --> 01:12:52,160 Speaker 12: Might you just have to remind yourself to lower your. 1439 01:12:52,160 --> 01:12:55,280 Speaker 12: Shoulder you, know some of those guys are coming and hit, 1440 01:12:55,320 --> 01:12:58,320 Speaker 12: hard and you know you don't want to absorb, it 1441 01:12:58,840 --> 01:12:59,720 Speaker 12: but you also. 1442 01:13:01,240 --> 01:13:02,639 Speaker 11: You also don't want to get got as. 1443 01:13:02,680 --> 01:13:05,679 Speaker 12: Well so it's just finding that, balance reminding, Yourself, okay, 1444 01:13:05,720 --> 01:13:08,080 Speaker 12: YEAH i have to lower my, pads don't duck my. 1445 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,439 Speaker 12: Head small mistakes that you make sometimes when you just 1446 01:13:11,520 --> 01:13:13,320 Speaker 12: put the pads back. On you just don't want to, 1447 01:13:13,360 --> 01:13:14,920 Speaker 12: lose so you do whatever you can to not. Lose 1448 01:13:15,320 --> 01:13:18,080 Speaker 12: but then slowly you get back into the fundamentals with 1449 01:13:18,240 --> 01:13:18,799 Speaker 12: having pads. 1450 01:13:18,840 --> 01:13:22,320 Speaker 9: On you guys are working right now and building your offensive. 1451 01:13:22,360 --> 01:13:25,519 Speaker 9: Identity what vibe are you getting from this offense as a? 1452 01:13:25,600 --> 01:13:30,680 Speaker 12: Whole everybody, eats you, know it's a big thing That joe, 1453 01:13:31,000 --> 01:13:33,679 Speaker 12: emphasizes and you see it a, lot especially in. Practice 1454 01:13:34,800 --> 01:13:37,240 Speaker 12: some guys go off in, practice then another guy will 1455 01:13:37,240 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 12: go off in a different, practice another guy will go 1456 01:13:38,880 --> 01:13:40,320 Speaker 12: off in a different, practice and you would have thought 1457 01:13:40,320 --> 01:13:41,719 Speaker 12: that it would have been someone else's. 1458 01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:42,599 Speaker 11: Day but you really don't. 1459 01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,800 Speaker 12: Know you really don't know how your route is gonna 1460 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:46,240 Speaker 12: affect the. Play you don't really know if you're even 1461 01:13:46,280 --> 01:13:48,679 Speaker 12: gonna get the. Ball you might be the last street 1462 01:13:48,720 --> 01:13:51,760 Speaker 12: and still might get the. Ball so if anything with this, 1463 01:13:51,880 --> 01:13:54,000 Speaker 12: offense you just have to be ready at all, times 1464 01:13:54,439 --> 01:13:56,320 Speaker 12: especially With, josh because you'll throw it to anybody and 1465 01:13:56,360 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 12: he can get. 1466 01:13:56,760 --> 01:13:57,120 Speaker 11: It there. 1467 01:13:59,240 --> 01:14:01,200 Speaker 3: Be great to athlete to come out of. 1468 01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:05,360 Speaker 11: Family, YEAH. 1469 01:14:12,439 --> 01:14:12,720 Speaker 3: I don't. 1470 01:14:12,760 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 11: KNOW i feel like it's a good. QUESTION a. 1471 01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:24,200 Speaker 3: Looty question was. 1472 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:27,160 Speaker 2: Fun, YEAH i was leading into what's it been like 1473 01:14:27,320 --> 01:14:30,680 Speaker 2: to be so close to home and now that you've 1474 01:14:30,720 --> 01:14:31,200 Speaker 2: been here for a. 1475 01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,480 Speaker 1: Few months and have the ability to enjoy. 1476 01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,000 Speaker 2: Being as close to rampant as you getting, interview. 1477 01:14:40,840 --> 01:14:44,840 Speaker 12: IT'S i think it's gonna be, fun just because a 1478 01:14:44,880 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 12: lot of my family is still obviously In, toronto so 1479 01:14:49,400 --> 01:14:51,200 Speaker 12: even though they came to all of my games on 1480 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:53,400 Speaker 12: in The West, coast it's gonna be a lot easier 1481 01:14:53,439 --> 01:14:56,920 Speaker 12: for them to. Travel so with ease comes more family 1482 01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:59,479 Speaker 12: coming to. Games and then also a lot of people 1483 01:14:59,520 --> 01:15:01,240 Speaker 12: that Have i've been to my games will be able 1484 01:15:01,280 --> 01:15:04,720 Speaker 12: to come now because they couldn't travel that. Far BUT 1485 01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:07,120 Speaker 12: i just want to be a good representative of my 1486 01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:11,400 Speaker 12: country and Where i'm, from my, religion. 1487 01:15:12,760 --> 01:15:17,519 Speaker 11: You, know in terms of, accomplishments you. 1488 01:15:17,560 --> 01:15:19,240 Speaker 12: Know some people can think about it all day and 1489 01:15:19,320 --> 01:15:21,920 Speaker 12: let it get in their heads and feel like they 1490 01:15:22,000 --> 01:15:26,840 Speaker 12: need to reach certain limits in order to BE i 1491 01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:27,960 Speaker 12: guess accepted among the. 1492 01:15:28,080 --> 01:15:28,559 Speaker 11: Masses BUT. 1493 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:33,200 Speaker 12: I don't Think i'm not doing it for. That i'm 1494 01:15:33,200 --> 01:15:37,400 Speaker 12: doing it for a much higher purpose to where, yeah 1495 01:15:37,439 --> 01:15:39,599 Speaker 12: you can catch for a thousand. Yards but it all 1496 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:41,680 Speaker 12: depends on it. All to, me it all comes down 1497 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:43,519 Speaker 12: to the type of person you. Are you, know even 1498 01:15:43,560 --> 01:15:45,800 Speaker 12: with success that you get in this, league some people 1499 01:15:45,880 --> 01:15:48,400 Speaker 12: turn into excuse, me my friends with like, scumbags and 1500 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:49,840 Speaker 12: that's not something THAT i definitely want to. BE i 1501 01:15:49,880 --> 01:15:54,160 Speaker 12: want to be a good representative of my, family my, 1502 01:15:54,320 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 12: country my, religion my, team and so all everything happens 1503 01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,519 Speaker 12: the way its supposed to. Happen but of course you 1504 01:15:59,560 --> 01:16:01,639 Speaker 12: want to chase those accolades of being a thousand yards 1505 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:03,120 Speaker 12: and doing these. Things but it'll come in, time and 1506 01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:04,880 Speaker 12: if it'supposed to happen it's supposed to. Happen if it's, 1507 01:16:04,880 --> 01:16:06,519 Speaker 12: Not i'm gonna give him the best shot to find. 1508 01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:13,439 Speaker 13: Out bar to be win about eight Super bowls, yeah 1509 01:16:15,360 --> 01:16:16,920 Speaker 13: and fifty touchdowns, YEAH i mean. 1510 01:16:17,600 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 12: Hockey so's his, leadership the way he's able to bounce. 1511 01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:29,519 Speaker 12: Back you, know WHENEVER i see a quarterback throw a, 1512 01:16:29,560 --> 01:16:31,240 Speaker 12: PICK i always like to look at how they react 1513 01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:35,360 Speaker 12: because you get a good judge on somebody when things 1514 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:39,640 Speaker 12: go wrong and he'll take, chances he'll throw a pick and, 1515 01:16:39,960 --> 01:16:43,560 Speaker 12: ah all right, whatever and it's almost, like, OH i 1516 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:46,760 Speaker 12: thought he was gonna get more, upset but you, know 1517 01:16:46,840 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 12: you gotta take the shots and if it doesn't work 1518 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:52,080 Speaker 12: out then that's why we have a good. Defense but you, 1519 01:16:52,160 --> 01:16:54,840 Speaker 12: know he's a risk taker and when things go, wrong 1520 01:16:54,880 --> 01:16:56,280 Speaker 12: he's able to just shake it off and act like 1521 01:16:56,320 --> 01:17:00,400 Speaker 12: it never. Happens so you, Know i'm trying to wearing 1522 01:17:00,439 --> 01:17:01,960 Speaker 12: myself on him SO i can get some of that as. 1523 01:17:02,000 --> 01:17:05,560 Speaker 11: Well part of this stream. 1524 01:17:05,400 --> 01:17:07,000 Speaker 13: Camp and just what to sit out to you about 1525 01:17:07,040 --> 01:17:08,240 Speaker 13: he's playing Versus. 1526 01:17:08,360 --> 01:17:11,760 Speaker 12: Texas, yeah he's very, strong he can coming out of his. 1527 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:18,439 Speaker 12: Breaks he's very. Elusive he could change, directions make THE 1528 01:17:18,520 --> 01:17:20,200 Speaker 12: dB stink that they're going like he's going one, way 1529 01:17:20,320 --> 01:17:23,400 Speaker 12: comes out the other. Way he's very exciting to watch 1530 01:17:23,520 --> 01:17:26,840 Speaker 12: just because of the plays that he can. Make it's 1531 01:17:26,880 --> 01:17:28,600 Speaker 12: just seeing him doing a consistent. Level and so far 1532 01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 12: AS i, mean Since i've been, here he's been he's 1533 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:34,000 Speaker 12: been pretty. CONSISTENT i, mean you, know it's JUST i 1534 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,200 Speaker 12: know it's no it's your two for. Him So i'm 1535 01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:39,120 Speaker 12: still getting to learn him as a person, mainly you, 1536 01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:40,880 Speaker 12: KNOW i see what he does as a, Player so 1537 01:17:41,439 --> 01:17:42,680 Speaker 12: just trying to get to know him as a person and, 1538 01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,799 Speaker 12: see you, know HOW i can help and any. 1539 01:17:45,680 --> 01:17:46,040 Speaker 11: Way THAT i. 1540 01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:47,599 Speaker 12: Can, REALLY i, Know i've been in the league a lot, 1541 01:17:47,680 --> 01:17:50,160 Speaker 12: longer so not a lot, longer but like a few. 1542 01:17:50,240 --> 01:17:53,160 Speaker 12: Years but you, know these young guys coming, out you, 1543 01:17:53,160 --> 01:17:54,320 Speaker 12: know you just try to help them in any way 1544 01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:55,680 Speaker 12: that you can if they want to. 1545 01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:58,640 Speaker 11: Help All. 1546 01:17:58,720 --> 01:18:01,719 Speaker 1: Right so That's Joshua palmer addressing the media here after 1547 01:18:01,880 --> 01:18:03,880 Speaker 1: day six of training. Camp step And i'll take a, 1548 01:18:03,960 --> 01:18:06,080 Speaker 1: break come back with a LITTLE nfl true, False and 1549 01:18:06,479 --> 01:18:09,320 Speaker 1: don't Forget Keon coleman still on the way as well 1550 01:18:09,439 --> 01:18:11,360 Speaker 1: here On One Bill's, live presented by Co lot Of. 1551 01:18:11,360 --> 01:18:26,439 Speaker 1: Health It's Buffalo Bills. Radio all, right back here for 1552 01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,400 Speaker 1: training camp coverage At Saint John. Fisher Chris, Brown Steve 1553 01:18:29,439 --> 01:18:32,000 Speaker 1: tasker with you on day six of training camp and 1554 01:18:32,200 --> 01:18:37,479 Speaker 1: time to spin The dial ON. Nfl true false presented 1555 01:18:37,520 --> 01:18:41,639 Speaker 1: By Patron, tequila the official tequila of The Buffalo, BILLS. 1556 01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 1: Nfl true False number One Steve. VIKINGS jj McCarthy is 1557 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:50,480 Speaker 1: the quarterback with the most to prove in THE Nfc 1558 01:18:50,720 --> 01:18:55,479 Speaker 1: North true or. False i'm going to obviously Have Jordan, 1559 01:18:55,560 --> 01:18:58,280 Speaker 1: Love Jared, goff And caleb William. 1560 01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:00,599 Speaker 2: Caleb williams has more to. Prove why ure on? Him 1561 01:19:00,640 --> 01:19:07,800 Speaker 2: he's he's been. THERE i, mean the guy PLAYED jj. 1562 01:19:08,000 --> 01:19:10,160 Speaker 2: McCarthy the bar is low for him just to beat 1563 01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 2: out What Caleb williams did as a. Rookie BECAUSE jj 1564 01:19:13,720 --> 01:19:16,160 Speaker 2: McCarthy's a. Rookie he hasn't played it. Down you can 1565 01:19:16,200 --> 01:19:18,080 Speaker 2: say what you want about he was hurt all last. 1566 01:19:18,160 --> 01:19:20,519 Speaker 2: Year he didn't a chance to take any. Snaps he's 1567 01:19:20,680 --> 01:19:24,960 Speaker 2: well behind Where Caleb williams should. Be and so you've 1568 01:19:25,000 --> 01:19:28,200 Speaker 2: got all of that as lead. TIME jj McCarthy may stink, 1569 01:19:28,240 --> 01:19:32,160 Speaker 2: okay but it's not what we've Heard, cale. Right we 1570 01:19:32,240 --> 01:19:34,240 Speaker 2: haven't heard That Caleb williams is the guy they. Think, 1571 01:19:34,320 --> 01:19:36,720 Speaker 2: NOW i get. It Sam darnold was there last year 1572 01:19:36,720 --> 01:19:43,519 Speaker 2: and he played great and and his, coach O'Donnell got 1573 01:19:43,560 --> 01:19:45,320 Speaker 2: a lot of credit for, that and he deserved. IT 1574 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,920 Speaker 2: i think the head coach is under more pressure than 1575 01:19:50,080 --> 01:19:56,160 Speaker 2: THAN jj McCarthy. Is, YEAH i don't. Know Caleb williams 1576 01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:58,400 Speaker 2: is the guy that's under the most biggest microscope In. 1577 01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:02,000 Speaker 2: Chicago they've got the got a franchise that quarterbacks go to. 1578 01:20:02,160 --> 01:20:08,000 Speaker 2: Die he's and he has done a. Little he's shown some, 1579 01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,920 Speaker 2: flashes but he's got to get better in the. Pocket 1580 01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:12,880 Speaker 2: he's okay when when he's out on the, edge when 1581 01:20:12,920 --> 01:20:16,200 Speaker 2: he's creating some. Things he's a little bit Like josh 1582 01:20:16,400 --> 01:20:19,680 Speaker 2: was when he was a young. Player but he's got 1583 01:20:19,760 --> 01:20:24,200 Speaker 2: to get better in. STRUCTURE jj, McCarthy the jury's still 1584 01:20:24,240 --> 01:20:26,360 Speaker 2: completely out on. Him all we've heard is things what 1585 01:20:26,439 --> 01:20:29,040 Speaker 2: people have said inside the, organization like that he's playing, 1586 01:20:29,080 --> 01:20:31,120 Speaker 2: great he's doing, This we like, him and we Cut 1587 01:20:31,160 --> 01:20:33,360 Speaker 2: Sam darnold because we think so much OF jj. McCarthy 1588 01:20:33,640 --> 01:20:37,000 Speaker 2: all of that. STUFF i get all of. That, Yeah 1589 01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:39,200 Speaker 2: Caleb williams is the guy that's got to go because 1590 01:20:39,200 --> 01:20:41,080 Speaker 2: the entire organization is on his. 1591 01:20:41,200 --> 01:20:44,400 Speaker 1: Shoulders, YEAH i would say that's probably the, case SO 1592 01:20:44,439 --> 01:20:47,400 Speaker 1: i would say false as, well knowing the history Of 1593 01:20:47,439 --> 01:20:50,120 Speaker 1: bears QUARTERBACKS i think, alone not to mention the recent 1594 01:20:50,200 --> 01:20:53,760 Speaker 1: history Of vikings, quarterbacks all of whom have played well 1595 01:20:54,439 --> 01:20:58,040 Speaker 1: Under kevin. O'Connell so that probably is What trump's it for. 1596 01:20:58,200 --> 01:21:02,080 Speaker 1: Me Travis hunter andfl true falls number. Two Travis hunter 1597 01:21:02,200 --> 01:21:04,040 Speaker 1: should be a full time player on offense for The. 1598 01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:08,240 Speaker 2: JAGUARS i, MEAN i don't know IF i can answer, 1599 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:14,960 Speaker 2: that BUT i would, say, yeah it's an offensive league to. 1600 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:19,200 Speaker 2: Me you, know they all the rule changes tilt on 1601 01:21:19,280 --> 01:21:20,560 Speaker 2: that side of the. Ball if you can get a 1602 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:22,000 Speaker 2: guy that can help on that side of the, ball 1603 01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:23,560 Speaker 2: you need to use him as much as. Possible SO 1604 01:21:23,600 --> 01:21:25,200 Speaker 2: i would, yeah AND i would sprinkle him in on, 1605 01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:31,120 Speaker 2: Defense that's WHAT i would. Do SO i would say, 1606 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:33,000 Speaker 2: YES i would, say, true he does need to be 1607 01:21:33,160 --> 01:21:34,920 Speaker 2: a full time offensive player for The. 1608 01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,080 Speaker 1: Jaguars, YEAH i would say that. Too putting him on 1609 01:21:37,120 --> 01:21:39,840 Speaker 1: both sides of the ball makes him a jack of 1610 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: all trades and a master of. None that's HOW i see. 1611 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 2: IT i, agree it's. Yeah you get him half ready 1612 01:21:45,200 --> 01:21:47,760 Speaker 2: to play on offense and half ready to play on, defense. 1613 01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:49,200 Speaker 1: And then he's not great at anything on a team 1614 01:21:49,240 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: that needs somebody great. Somewhere THAT'S nfl true. False we 1615 01:21:53,120 --> 01:21:56,880 Speaker 1: pivot now to the post practice podium Where Keon coleman 1616 01:21:56,960 --> 01:22:00,920 Speaker 1: addressed the media after practice. Today key in house camping 1617 01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:01,320 Speaker 1: going so. 1618 01:22:01,400 --> 01:22:01,760 Speaker 9: Far in your? 1619 01:22:01,800 --> 01:22:02,960 Speaker 2: Eyes Got i'm being? 1620 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:07,439 Speaker 7: Good, uh putting some great days, together stacking, days getting 1621 01:22:07,479 --> 01:22:09,960 Speaker 7: better at the. Offense what do you love most about? 1622 01:22:10,040 --> 01:22:15,320 Speaker 7: Training you're getting to be out here with the guys playing. 1623 01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:19,559 Speaker 1: Football quite a few connections With Josh. 1624 01:22:19,600 --> 01:22:21,479 Speaker 9: Allen you guys have connected on quite a few balls 1625 01:22:21,520 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 9: with training. Camp how are you building chemistry with him 1626 01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:26,800 Speaker 9: right now in year? 1627 01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:27,040 Speaker 3: Two? 1628 01:22:27,720 --> 01:22:30,400 Speaker 7: UH a lot of the fumroom understanding what he's seeing 1629 01:22:30,479 --> 01:22:32,600 Speaker 7: and giving my feedback and then going out down the 1630 01:22:32,640 --> 01:22:33,479 Speaker 7: field and executing. 1631 01:22:33,479 --> 01:22:38,840 Speaker 5: It. Sorry, yeah you talk about stacking days Out, kean 1632 01:22:38,920 --> 01:22:40,920 Speaker 5: that you've been putting together over the past year, Here, 1633 01:22:41,560 --> 01:22:43,640 Speaker 5: truly how much easier is it when you're kind of 1634 01:22:43,680 --> 01:22:44,759 Speaker 5: have that momentum from. 1635 01:22:44,600 --> 01:22:46,240 Speaker 1: A good day prior than it is when you. 1636 01:22:46,320 --> 01:22:48,639 Speaker 10: Don't maybe you don't have it the day before and you're. 1637 01:22:48,520 --> 01:22:50,479 Speaker 3: Trying to get back into where you need to be 1638 01:22:50,760 --> 01:22:51,160 Speaker 3: on that that. 1639 01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:53,040 Speaker 7: Stead it don't make a. DIFFERENCE i, mean it's a 1640 01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:55,479 Speaker 7: new day every day and you don't look. Back once 1641 01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,479 Speaker 7: the day's. Over you get that over with and filming 1642 01:22:57,960 --> 01:22:58,639 Speaker 7: going to the next. 1643 01:22:58,720 --> 01:23:01,479 Speaker 9: Day you And josh spent a lot of time in 1644 01:23:01,560 --> 01:23:05,160 Speaker 9: the film room. TOGETHER a lot of the seems like 1645 01:23:05,200 --> 01:23:07,679 Speaker 9: a lot of the chemistry happens off the football. Field 1646 01:23:07,720 --> 01:23:09,840 Speaker 9: what are some of those conversations like that you guys 1647 01:23:09,920 --> 01:23:12,120 Speaker 9: have together to make sure you're on the same page 1648 01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:13,240 Speaker 9: and throwing as you do. 1649 01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:16,640 Speaker 7: It really just, like, alright so we watched, this you'd be, like, 1650 01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:19,760 Speaker 7: alright So i'm thinking, This, uh what was you thinking? 1651 01:23:19,800 --> 01:23:21,840 Speaker 7: There and Then i'll say that and then we'll you, know, 1652 01:23:22,000 --> 01:23:24,280 Speaker 7: conversation get to the get to the same point of 1653 01:23:24,360 --> 01:23:25,800 Speaker 7: what we trying to, say and then we'll go out 1654 01:23:25,840 --> 01:23:26,439 Speaker 7: there and execute. 1655 01:23:26,479 --> 01:23:30,080 Speaker 5: It and yesterday about how the special eds hYP Practices 1656 01:23:30,200 --> 01:23:33,320 Speaker 5: iron sharpens iron for, you how does that, happen especially 1657 01:23:33,360 --> 01:23:35,200 Speaker 5: going up against a veteran in in tree. 1658 01:23:35,320 --> 01:23:39,559 Speaker 7: Ie, UH i mean s same thing as getting ups 1659 01:23:39,600 --> 01:23:41,240 Speaker 7: without the. Pads they don't make a difference for. Us 1660 01:23:42,080 --> 01:23:44,519 Speaker 7: so it's still getting, out, working getting out of, spots getting, 1661 01:23:44,560 --> 01:23:44,960 Speaker 7: open making. 1662 01:23:45,040 --> 01:23:48,120 Speaker 1: Catches, yeah when you first loo can camp to this 1663 01:23:48,240 --> 01:23:51,280 Speaker 1: camp between, that it's change what's different in. 1664 01:23:51,280 --> 01:23:54,519 Speaker 10: Your body or speed or anything on the officers and you're. 1665 01:23:54,400 --> 01:23:56,360 Speaker 1: Developed on and you feel like you get the sense 1666 01:23:56,439 --> 01:23:57,400 Speaker 1: of the feeling for your. 1667 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,320 Speaker 11: Life what you, think what you? 1668 01:23:59,439 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 10: See do you have a grant caps so far out 1669 01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:05,519 Speaker 10: jumping and past her AND i just wanna hear the. 1670 01:24:05,560 --> 01:24:05,920 Speaker 11: Truth bake. 1671 01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:07,960 Speaker 10: You you've been working the other, uh. 1672 01:24:08,080 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 7: Just grinding pretty much everything and then coming at him 1673 01:24:10,600 --> 01:24:12,240 Speaker 7: and putting it on the field and putting it on. 1674 01:24:12,360 --> 01:24:14,559 Speaker 11: Tape with your thoughts on. 1675 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,679 Speaker 2: Josh oamar profusially getting to know him now. 1676 01:24:16,680 --> 01:24:18,920 Speaker 5: Now you can see him continually rampb off you, guys 1677 01:24:18,960 --> 01:24:19,559 Speaker 5: get the pads. 1678 01:24:19,600 --> 01:24:21,400 Speaker 3: On just what's kind of shoot out to you about? 1679 01:24:21,439 --> 01:24:22,360 Speaker 1: Him and many a good? 1680 01:24:22,400 --> 01:24:24,240 Speaker 11: Player, uh very, detailed works. 1681 01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,840 Speaker 7: Hard uh you know he's a little, quiet but you 1682 01:24:26,880 --> 01:24:28,800 Speaker 7: know he gets his work done as simple as. 1683 01:24:28,880 --> 01:24:30,879 Speaker 11: Is that gets a good Wors. 1684 01:24:31,680 --> 01:24:34,800 Speaker 2: Your thoughts on on How Elijah morris progressed and what's 1685 01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:35,280 Speaker 2: he like as a. 1686 01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:36,640 Speaker 1: Guy, yeah, man he. 1687 01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 7: Funny he remind me a lot Of coop uh in that, 1688 01:24:39,439 --> 01:24:42,240 Speaker 7: aspect you know Them florida. Boards but another, great great, 1689 01:24:42,280 --> 01:24:44,519 Speaker 7: player great route, runner has a good feel for the 1690 01:24:44,560 --> 01:24:47,200 Speaker 7: game and things like that make good catches and you, 1691 01:24:47,280 --> 01:24:49,360 Speaker 7: know just a great guy to be. Around and that's 1692 01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:50,960 Speaker 7: two great guys we added to the receiver. 1693 01:24:51,080 --> 01:24:52,879 Speaker 1: Room What's joe bre even. 1694 01:24:52,760 --> 01:24:54,400 Speaker 6: Like in year two as the offensive. 1695 01:24:54,479 --> 01:24:56,080 Speaker 5: Portander, oh it's been. 1696 01:24:56,200 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 7: Fun. Uh you, know door stays, open it's same as last, 1697 01:25:00,280 --> 01:25:01,679 Speaker 7: year so you can go to talk to him about, 1698 01:25:01,680 --> 01:25:04,639 Speaker 7: anything what you're, seeing what you. Likes so just having 1699 01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,040 Speaker 7: that open communication with him is. 1700 01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:07,960 Speaker 4: Great likes to keep it. 1701 01:25:08,000 --> 01:25:09,160 Speaker 10: Open communication between the. 1702 01:25:09,200 --> 01:25:12,880 Speaker 9: Players wants your insight into the playbook and as you 1703 01:25:12,920 --> 01:25:15,880 Speaker 9: guys are kind of building things right, now how does 1704 01:25:15,960 --> 01:25:17,840 Speaker 9: that help you as the player to know that your 1705 01:25:17,880 --> 01:25:20,200 Speaker 9: offensive corner does want your opinion. 1706 01:25:19,960 --> 01:25:21,120 Speaker 11: On, things and it helps a. 1707 01:25:21,200 --> 01:25:23,439 Speaker 7: Lot you can vote your opinion to the guy that's 1708 01:25:23,479 --> 01:25:25,920 Speaker 7: actually calling the. Place so what you're seeing when you're 1709 01:25:25,960 --> 01:25:27,760 Speaker 7: on the, field where he sees when he's on, top 1710 01:25:27,960 --> 01:25:30,280 Speaker 7: seeing the covers down, here and then just tell him 1711 01:25:30,280 --> 01:25:30,439 Speaker 7: what you. 1712 01:25:30,520 --> 01:25:34,840 Speaker 5: Want you, know every see guy Like steve's now Getting 1713 01:25:36,280 --> 01:25:40,519 Speaker 5: steve getting some reps with the ones In josh just 1714 01:25:40,600 --> 01:25:42,960 Speaker 5: because of the injuries or in the wide receiver, room 1715 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:45,360 Speaker 5: but you're reactingly kind of that big touchdown pass that 1716 01:25:45,479 --> 01:25:47,639 Speaker 5: he had and just watching a guy like him make 1717 01:25:47,680 --> 01:25:50,760 Speaker 5: the most of his opportunities and and kind of showcasing 1718 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:51,320 Speaker 5: it on a big. 1719 01:25:51,400 --> 01:25:54,640 Speaker 7: Play so's what you, ask how how is he as a, 1720 01:25:54,680 --> 01:25:57,320 Speaker 7: player and so let that like. 1721 01:25:57,360 --> 01:25:59,280 Speaker 5: That works the way up and get an opportunity to 1722 01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:00,960 Speaker 5: work with the one work For josh and. 1723 01:26:01,320 --> 01:26:03,080 Speaker 7: YEAH i, mean, man as what we, preach, man you 1724 01:26:03,120 --> 01:26:05,439 Speaker 7: gotta make your opportunities. Count don't count the. Opportunity and 1725 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:07,400 Speaker 7: that's exactly what he's been. Doing you, know he's a great, 1726 01:26:07,439 --> 01:26:10,000 Speaker 7: player had a good CAREER. Vt so he comes out 1727 01:26:10,040 --> 01:26:12,320 Speaker 7: here every, day works, hard gets his body right in 1728 01:26:12,360 --> 01:26:14,200 Speaker 7: the training room and he you, know the play show 1729 01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:15,960 Speaker 7: Senn us. 1730 01:26:15,920 --> 01:26:18,400 Speaker 9: Another player who had a couple of catches. Today what 1731 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:20,080 Speaker 9: is he like as a player and a? 1732 01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:20,439 Speaker 5: Person? 1733 01:26:21,040 --> 01:26:22,640 Speaker 7: Man he, fundy he, Funny he. 1734 01:26:22,840 --> 01:26:25,000 Speaker 11: Funny but, man another great, player. 1735 01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,120 Speaker 7: Bro you, know good feel for the game and you 1736 01:26:27,200 --> 01:26:28,640 Speaker 7: know he plays tough and he's gonna get over and 1737 01:26:28,680 --> 01:26:28,880 Speaker 7: make some. 1738 01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:32,240 Speaker 5: Catches at this point last year as a, ROOKIE i 1739 01:26:32,439 --> 01:26:34,360 Speaker 5: see a lot of this learning to playbook for the 1740 01:26:34,400 --> 01:26:36,720 Speaker 5: first time and everything now a year, later how do 1741 01:26:36,760 --> 01:26:39,160 Speaker 5: you feel like that having that year of knowledge of 1742 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:43,560 Speaker 5: the plays in the offensive, screen everything really on the, field. 1743 01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:44,360 Speaker 2: Or just to play with more? 1744 01:26:44,439 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 7: CONFIDENCE i mean a little bit of, both and the 1745 01:26:47,840 --> 01:26:50,160 Speaker 7: game slows down when you know everything that's. Coming so 1746 01:26:50,240 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 7: it's allowed you to just read the defense and understand 1747 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:52,880 Speaker 7: what you got to. 1748 01:26:52,920 --> 01:26:54,599 Speaker 11: Get as you're. 1749 01:26:54,479 --> 01:26:56,680 Speaker 9: Entraining, camp what are your goals for? Yourself is do 1750 01:26:56,720 --> 01:26:58,720 Speaker 9: you guys really lock in ahead. 1751 01:26:58,400 --> 01:27:01,920 Speaker 11: Of the, season the season healthy and just continue to make? 1752 01:27:01,960 --> 01:27:03,000 Speaker 7: Plays tag days. 1753 01:27:04,439 --> 01:27:06,519 Speaker 9: Here recently and he said that he's been trying to 1754 01:27:06,600 --> 01:27:08,200 Speaker 9: take on more of a vocal leadership. 1755 01:27:08,320 --> 01:27:08,920 Speaker 4: Role how have you. 1756 01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:11,920 Speaker 9: Seen close step up as a leader and as an 1757 01:27:11,960 --> 01:27:13,240 Speaker 9: older player in the wide receiver? 1758 01:27:13,400 --> 01:27:15,200 Speaker 7: ROOM i getting out of his comfort. Zone you know 1759 01:27:15,240 --> 01:27:17,960 Speaker 7: he's not the most vocal, guy but that's something he's 1760 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,040 Speaker 7: really getting out the talking to the young, guys talking 1761 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,880 Speaker 7: to everybody, Else, uh making sure we understand whatever it 1762 01:27:23,040 --> 01:27:25,200 Speaker 7: is how we do things here and stuff like. 1763 01:27:25,280 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 3: That you enjoy most. 1764 01:27:29,640 --> 01:27:34,000 Speaker 7: Actually getting out of there going against the. Defense when 1765 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:34,880 Speaker 7: you're out there. 1766 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,559 Speaker 10: Against the, defense what what do you notice about yourself 1767 01:27:37,720 --> 01:27:41,280 Speaker 10: just the way that you practice now compared to maybe last. 1768 01:27:41,120 --> 01:27:45,000 Speaker 11: Year as a rugby making more plays. 1769 01:27:47,720 --> 01:27:49,600 Speaker 13: The training camp for are you guys aware of what 1770 01:27:49,680 --> 01:27:51,960 Speaker 13: happened In New York city yesterday or on the league? 1771 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:57,360 Speaker 3: Office have you talked about? It there was a shooting 1772 01:27:57,680 --> 01:27:59,720 Speaker 3: and there was AN nfl staffer that was. 1773 01:28:00,160 --> 01:28:02,720 Speaker 2: Jared there's more details. 1774 01:28:02,360 --> 01:28:05,320 Speaker 7: Out about, it but if you don't know about, it 1775 01:28:05,880 --> 01:28:08,320 Speaker 7: as to them though. 1776 01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:14,800 Speaker 1: Games, yeah SO i Heard keon was asked, about you, 1777 01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,639 Speaker 1: know the shooting In New York city at THE nfl. 1778 01:28:16,720 --> 01:28:19,519 Speaker 1: Offices these guys are in a bubble when they are 1779 01:28:19,560 --> 01:28:22,880 Speaker 1: here at training. Camp they are completely. Isolated not that 1780 01:28:22,960 --> 01:28:25,320 Speaker 1: they can't get information on their, phones but it's all 1781 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,519 Speaker 1: football all the, time so it's a little bit. Different 1782 01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,280 Speaker 1: so that's why you might be shocked That keon wasn't 1783 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:33,240 Speaker 1: aware of, It but that's kind of the atmosphere they're in. 1784 01:28:33,280 --> 01:28:35,519 Speaker 1: Here we got to take a. Break one final segment 1785 01:28:35,560 --> 01:28:37,559 Speaker 1: For steve AND i when we return here On One Bill's, 1786 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:56,960 Speaker 1: live stay with. Us all right back here On One Bill's. 1787 01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,960 Speaker 1: Live Chris, Brown Steve tasker with, you and final segment 1788 01:29:00,120 --> 01:29:04,320 Speaker 1: here on day six of training, camp and it's gonna 1789 01:29:04,360 --> 01:29:06,600 Speaker 1: actually get a little bit. Cooler The bills have a 1790 01:29:06,720 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 1: day off tomorrow and then the forecast is for highs 1791 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:15,519 Speaker 1: only in the seventies For. Thursday we're not even gonna 1792 01:29:15,560 --> 01:29:15,760 Speaker 1: be here. 1793 01:29:15,800 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 2: Tomorrow we're gonna be over. 1794 01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:20,840 Speaker 1: Now Tomorrow i'm saying For thursday And, friday it's gonna be. Cooler, 1795 01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:24,360 Speaker 1: thursday they will be. Here friday, night they will be 1796 01:29:24,479 --> 01:29:26,360 Speaker 1: back at the stadium for the return of The blue And. 1797 01:29:26,439 --> 01:29:28,560 Speaker 2: RING i can't be Here friday, Night i'm gonna be. 1798 01:29:28,640 --> 01:29:31,599 Speaker 2: Here i'm Being, Canton ohio For Marvel levy's hundredth birthday. 1799 01:29:31,800 --> 01:29:33,240 Speaker 1: Party, yeah that'll be. 1800 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:34,679 Speaker 2: Awesome can't wait to see, him. 1801 01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:36,760 Speaker 1: Can't wait to hear all about. Him, yeah that'll be really. 1802 01:29:36,840 --> 01:29:40,080 Speaker 1: Fun so the team is off, tomorrow but we'll be 1803 01:29:40,200 --> 01:29:42,519 Speaker 1: back here at one. O'clock the only difference is we'll 1804 01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,960 Speaker 1: be at One Bills. Drive we'll Have Aaron SHOTTS espn plus. 1805 01:29:46,040 --> 01:29:47,400 Speaker 1: Analyst we'll see you, then