Speaker 1: Hoody.
Speaker 2: Who everyone, It's me George. I have bad news and
Speaker 2: I have good news. Bad news is that there's no
Speaker 2: new episode this week because we are both traveling and
Speaker 2: working and of course celebrating Pride, which is a full
Speaker 2: time job with terrible benefits. And also some of us
Speaker 2: are getting married and there's just a lot.
Speaker 1: Going on over at Straight or liab HQ.
Speaker 2: But I promise we will be back next week with
Speaker 2: a whole new episode. We are quite literally recording two
Speaker 2: new episodes tomorrow in studio in New York with some
Speaker 2: really great guests, So I promise we will be back
Speaker 2: very soon. So that is the bad news. The good
Speaker 2: news is that to celebrate our friend Cola scolas Tony
Speaker 2: Award win for their smash hit play Oh Mary, we
Speaker 2: have decided to re release their episode from a little
Speaker 2: over a year ago, when I believe they were promoting
Speaker 2: the off Broadway run of the play before it had
Speaker 2: even extended off Broadway.
Speaker 1: So a lot can happen in a year. We are so.
Speaker 2: Proud of Tony Award winner and two time Stradio Lab
Speaker 2: guests Cola Scola for all their success and Cole. If
Speaker 2: you're listening, please text us back. We really want you
Speaker 2: to connect us to Nicole Scherzinger. We think should be
Speaker 2: such a good guest on the podcast. I think we
Speaker 2: would have a lot to talk about. I think we
Speaker 2: have a lot in common, and so we are looking
Speaker 2: forward to your response. Enjoy the episode.
Speaker 3: Bye.
Speaker 1: Podcast starts now.
Speaker 2: I already have a thought, which is I'm going to
Speaker 2: bring back Zippit.
Speaker 1: You're bringing back zippit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you brought back me thinks, which I think, first
Speaker 2: of all worked one.
Speaker 1: It swept the world by storm.
Speaker 2: People think we might people might think we're joking if
Speaker 2: they were not up to date with our Instagram stories.
Speaker 2: Let's say, but literally a week after you said we're
Speaker 2: bringing back me things, none other than Taylor Swift posted
Speaker 2: meat Things methinks.
Speaker 4: The methings movement was a huge success.
Speaker 2: I do think the meathinks movement well, you know, now,
Speaker 2: with the benefit of hindsight, did it go too far?
Speaker 4: Maybe it did get too big where it started as
Speaker 4: sort of a you know, alt community, and then it
Speaker 4: became so mainstream so fast that even I found myself
Speaker 4: being like, no, I don't even like me thinks.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: The methinks movement started as people telling their stories, and
Speaker 2: they were necessary, but at some point you start thinking,
Speaker 2: do they just want attention?
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you're gonna do that with zippit.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do that with zippit. By the way, I
Speaker 2: don't actually believe what I just said. That was a
Speaker 2: sort of harmless bit.
Speaker 4: We play characters on it.
Speaker 2: We play characters on this podcast. I'm a huge feminist
Speaker 2: and everyone knows that. I do think I'm gonna I
Speaker 2: think zip it is such a fun way to say
Speaker 2: shut up.
Speaker 4: I mean it's so nineties. Yeah, and even like the bit,
Speaker 4: like the zip like, yes, playing with.
Speaker 1: It so have a word that starts with a Z
Speaker 1: is so rare? So rarely am I saying getting rare? Logical?
Speaker 4: Yes, Zelda, Well I said that a fair mountain my day.
Speaker 1: Okay, Well, I'm not a gamer like you. You know.
Speaker 2: I had a friend who had a launched a bottled
Speaker 2: cocktail company called Zuzu. I said, that is the best
Speaker 2: name for this is not a joke. Actually a very
Speaker 2: good friend of mine, and I was like, that is
Speaker 2: such a genius name because everyone wants to say more z's.
Speaker 4: Everyone's craving more z's in their life. So I think
Speaker 4: zip it could be could be big. I think zip
Speaker 4: it could be huge. And I told you this last night. Yeah,
Speaker 4: but I'm actually loving the semi irony of exclaiming make
Speaker 4: it make sense.
Speaker 1: Oh you love make it make sense?
Speaker 4: I think make it makes sense is so funny. It's
Speaker 4: like just vintage enough where it's like some people still.
Speaker 1: Say it for real and it's rooted in truth.
Speaker 2: Sometimes you are like, make it make sense, but it's such.
Speaker 4: A stupid Internet phrase. That is like saying it out
Speaker 4: in the wild as if it's normal. Is very like
Speaker 4: blurg core's ho true? Do you think does everyone understand
Speaker 4: blurg is shorthand.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on, you mean blurg as a metam is
Speaker 2: the right word.
Speaker 1: Blurg is a.
Speaker 2: Categor categorization of specific Internet language and and type of
Speaker 2: humor that's very sort of like on the spectrum of
Speaker 2: love these beautiful humans. Yeah, love these beautiful humans is
Speaker 2: one end and the other end is the interwebs, yes, exactly,
Speaker 2: and Blurg is in the middle.
Speaker 4: Blurg is center.
Speaker 1: To be clear, the entire spectrum is morally bankrupt.
Speaker 4: Of course, but it's important to recognize that there are
Speaker 4: differences within the culture.
Speaker 1: I sort of God, someone needs to write an essay
Speaker 1: about how.
Speaker 2: I've been saying this for years. It's the it's it's
Speaker 2: my term that I coin half humor, which is when
Speaker 2: something gestures at being funny but is not actually funny.
Speaker 4: Is blurgcore different than half humor?
Speaker 2: No, it's I would say blurg interwebs and these beautiful
Speaker 2: humans are all part of like the initial wave of
Speaker 2: half humor, and I think currently half humor is like
Speaker 2: Joe Biden posting Dark Brandon memes. We do have to
Speaker 2: bring in our guests, but I want to I want
Speaker 2: to torture them even further by talking about something that
Speaker 2: I know they want to comment on while they're not.
Speaker 1: Allowed to speak chastity play.
Speaker 2: We were talking about how our guest and again they
Speaker 2: will say this themselves, but they were saying that they
Speaker 2: liked being part of a friend group of three. And
Speaker 2: MY response was that is the worst number for a
Speaker 2: friend group because inevitably someone gets left out. There are
Speaker 2: two best friends and one sort of like flop third.
Speaker 1: I completely disagree.
Speaker 4: Now, I think a three group of friends is like
Speaker 4: there's checks and balances there.
Speaker 3: Well.
Speaker 2: From a social justice perspective, undoubtedly it's the right choice,
Speaker 2: but I'm saying like in practice. Listen, it's like, how
Speaker 2: of course commune it would work, but show me where
Speaker 2: it works in practice.
Speaker 4: I also like that, you know, it sort of has
Speaker 4: an engine churning to a three, like when someone's out
Speaker 4: and they're like, okay, well then I'll do something to
Speaker 4: get back in, and then and then and then they're like, okay,
Speaker 4: well now we need to catch up to this, and
Speaker 4: there's just sort of a they progress.
Speaker 2: You're you're thinking as an improv comedian, and I think
Speaker 2: for you and potentially for me, like for us, a
Speaker 2: three way friend group would work because we all have
Speaker 2: a sense of play within us. I think the average
Speaker 2: person wants to be on top and the average person
Speaker 2: wants to win. And when the average person is in
Speaker 2: a group of three, they are looking.
Speaker 1: Our guest is vigorously shaking their head. Yeah.
Speaker 2: It is also not to state the obvious, very meta
Speaker 2: so to speak, that we are currently banning the third
Speaker 2: person in this friend group of speaking.
Speaker 1: We know it's at the bottom right now.
Speaker 2: Talking about the benefits slash drawbacks.
Speaker 4: Of groups of three, Well, and this came up, I
Speaker 4: will say, because you know we were talking and saying,
Speaker 4: you know, we were are potentially going to do an
Speaker 4: episode with just the two of us, and we were like,
Speaker 4: neither of us seemed like like jumping at the at
Speaker 4: that and I felt like it was sort of like
Speaker 4: we were a couple that needed a third at all
Speaker 4: times or to be engaged with each other.
Speaker 1: It is a crutch, I guess, but it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be. It doesn't have to be. Maybe we don't
Speaker 1: even bring in our guests. Ever, I would celebrate it.
Speaker 2: And just sort of do an episode just two of us. Now,
Speaker 2: why wait until the next session?
Speaker 1: Why wait? I mean their time is flexible.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they are freeing anything.
Speaker 1: They're not promoting anything. This is a favorite of them, honestly. Yeah.
Speaker 1: What I don't even like them that much?
Speaker 4: No, no, no, what else would we like to say
Speaker 4: that they would just would love to jump in on?
Speaker 2: You know, what's the deal with Abraham Lincoln?
Speaker 1: Say that?
Speaker 2: I've always it's always a big question mark.
Speaker 1: I pretty much get. Is he married? Okay, let's do it.
Speaker 4: Our guest has steam coming out of their damn ears
Speaker 4: at this point. Please welcome cold the school.
Speaker 1: Hi. Hi. First of all, half humor is the lifeblood
Speaker 1: of work.
Speaker 2: Yes, half humor is very much like Icebreakers, corporate glatitude, latitudes, aphorisms,
Speaker 2: badass culture.
Speaker 1: It's you are a Badass, like the book You Are
Speaker 1: a bad Ass? Have you seen that? In airport?
Speaker 2: There's a book called I'm pretty sure it's called You
Speaker 2: are a Badass, and it's like a self help book
Speaker 2: with like a punchy humor.
Speaker 4: H And Okay, that was one thing.
Speaker 1: The other thing is in in groups of three, the
Speaker 1: pressure is off to be.
Speaker 4: The pressure is off. I see you can say just
Speaker 4: two people and like it's silent. It's like I like,
Speaker 4: I like being like, you know.
Speaker 1: What they've got this?
Speaker 4: I like that actually, And do you feel that way
Speaker 4: in sex as well?
Speaker 1: I do I feel that way in sex? Uh No,
Speaker 1: it's a threesomes feel confusing, you know, because maybe you
Speaker 1: don't want to way back. Well, well there's more sometimes
Speaker 1: you way back, but there's there's more, there's more space.
Speaker 1: If you're a little silent in a three way conversation
Speaker 1: for a bit and you're taking a sip of water,
Speaker 1: you're not thinking, wait, do they hate me? You're just
Speaker 1: thinking I'm taking a break.
Speaker 4: Sometimes I'm not thinking they hate me, but sometimes I
Speaker 4: am thinking like they're boring. Oh, like I'm thinking like
Speaker 4: this conversation is not that good because I'm not okay
Speaker 4: during a conversation like.
Speaker 1: Oh, during a conversation or during a three way during
Speaker 1: a conversation, okay, okay, yeah, well and that's fine because
Speaker 1: they've got it. They've got it, they've got it. You're like, Okay,
Speaker 1: they're having they're boring conversation. I don't have to engage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes i'll do a performative yawn.
Speaker 1: I'll just be like.
Speaker 4: That's a key role that a friend can play.
Speaker 1: But I think more people want to be cocks than
Speaker 1: they had cos yeap cocks.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I missed, I missed the start of this.
Speaker 1: No you didn't, I didn't. That's pretty much pretty much it.
Speaker 2: Okay, So do you think so you think there are
Speaker 2: more people than are willing to admit it that want
Speaker 2: to be cooked?
Speaker 1: Yes? Yeah, I think you're of being like cheated on
Speaker 1: is actually a desire to be yes, cheated on?
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 1: And the last topic that I brought when I was
Speaker 1: on cheating Yeah, it is very straight.
Speaker 2: I do think you're so right. Well, of course, every
Speaker 2: thank you, everything you next I'm speaking I of course,
Speaker 2: every big fear we have, including like nuclear war is
Speaker 2: a desire for that.
Speaker 4: Sure, Well that's the whole thing. I hate when people
Speaker 4: are like, we're living in the end.
Speaker 1: Time's talking about blurr humor end times. So okay ai
Speaker 1: and I but it's like.
Speaker 4: Clearly you're just like a narcissist, like you kind of
Speaker 4: want it to end, Like I was there, Yeah, I
Speaker 4: actually was there when it ended.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so my story matters.
Speaker 2: Well, that's also it's everyone thinks to living in the
Speaker 2: worst possible time, and it's not because they have this
Speaker 2: like incredible capacity for emphitheyic critique. It's because they have
Speaker 2: literally main character syndrome and think they are living in
Speaker 2: the most.
Speaker 4: Called drive for death.
Speaker 1: Yes, death drive yes, yes, huh hmm, okay.
Speaker 4: Right to have down right, that's really smart, thank you.
Speaker 4: I have a question regarding you brought up half humor
Speaker 4: in the workplace specifically, would you rather there be half
Speaker 4: humor or no humor? Because one thing this is interesting,
Speaker 4: one thing that's tough about a workplace is like get
Speaker 4: the utility of half humor? Well, absolutely, because you want
Speaker 4: to be able to like it's sort of like we're friendly.
Speaker 1: How how like Europeans are like either complain or are
Speaker 1: are happy about how fake nice Americans are, like say,
Speaker 1: everyone asking how's your day, but they don't really care.
Speaker 2: You know, my grandma used to do this is going
Speaker 2: to be a visual thing, so.
Speaker 4: Okay, close your eyes everybody on YouTube if you're driving.
Speaker 2: Episodes are full episodes available on our YouTube channel. My
Speaker 2: grandmother used to do this. This is her impression of
Speaker 2: an American and this. She used to do this when
Speaker 2: we were kids.
Speaker 1: She would go, uh huh, she would like, nice to
Speaker 1: meet you. Yeah, she would like do a smile and
Speaker 1: then immediately retract the smile because it's so fake.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, wow Russian queen. Yeah, she was an impressions queen.
Speaker 1: She is actually still alive, so is.
Speaker 4: It, but she lost her talent?
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: I feel like would you rather have have not?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 4: That? The absence?
Speaker 1: Well this is.
Speaker 4: You know, some would argue yes, yes that you know,
Speaker 4: that's sort of a New York versus La question.
Speaker 1: Oh would those people's name be Sam Dagger? Look I
Speaker 1: don't I wish I were.
Speaker 4: Well, it's just like that is like, would you rather
Speaker 4: people be like overly polite but you don't know what
Speaker 4: they're thinking, or would overly kurt and but like honest.
Speaker 4: But yeah, and I prefer Kurt been honest.
Speaker 1: I agree. And I also think like when I.
Speaker 4: Think you do the Sandra like no, ow, that was
Speaker 4: so curt and honest. I feel like the Sandra Huler
Speaker 4: interview cycle where she's being like like cold and they're like,
Speaker 4: do you love MESSI the dog and she's like it's
Speaker 4: just a.
Speaker 1: Dog, like yeah, I love that.
Speaker 2: Actually, yeah, Well my favorite Birther is sore Huler world
Speaker 2: is how they people keep trying to make jokes about
Speaker 2: the fact that she plays a literal Nazi and zone
Speaker 2: of interest.
Speaker 1: And she refuses to laugh along.
Speaker 2: She's just like, that is not funny, and would.
Speaker 1: You rather true it's not funny.
Speaker 4: By the way, She's like wait, She's literally like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I'm just not realizing it's talk about Blurg.
Speaker 1: I guess I'm a Nazi now, So that's normal.
Speaker 4: Make it, make say make it make sense, make it
Speaker 4: makes sense, make safe.
Speaker 2: So here's my thing with half humor in the workplace
Speaker 2: is it is keeping people just well behaved enough that
Speaker 2: they don't like it's very I'm so sorry capital yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: it's like it's in fact Neil Liberal. Yes, because if
Speaker 2: because that is literally what like the difference is between
Speaker 2: soothing cube exactly, between cubicle culture and bouncy balls.
Speaker 4: What sorry, what was so funny? Well, I'm not trying
Speaker 4: to make fun of you, but you said it weird,
Speaker 4: weird cubicle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, what did I say?
Speaker 4: You said, like, cubical cubacal, Like, it's very cub it's
Speaker 4: a more like cere.
Speaker 1: You working at cubical. Oh, yes, that's not cubical cubicle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's I would fake fake half humor. Recently, I said to.
Speaker 2: Someone, so I was talking about like going to high
Speaker 2: school in Greece, and I was like, yeah, but you
Speaker 2: know I lived here in my early childhood. That's so
Speaker 2: I don't have an accent. And they go, I think
Speaker 2: you have a slight accent. I was like, WHOA. First
Speaker 2: of all, that's that's for me to decide. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: I guess I said the word cubicle.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that was it.
Speaker 4: That was such a deep Greek accent that where we're
Speaker 4: all like, ask George George to say cubicle. Wait before
Speaker 4: I got distracted, Yes, who cares? Just about half humor in.
Speaker 2: The humor in the workplace now, I'm worried that I'm not.
Speaker 2: I have to be the one to write this essay,
Speaker 2: and now that I've said it publicly, someone else is
Speaker 2: gonna write it. Gia Tolantino is going to step in
Speaker 2: and write the essay about half Humor.
Speaker 1: Well, you know what, it'll be a good essay. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can do it. Well, but but do you have
Speaker 1: but you can't do it?
Speaker 4: Put your mind to it, right exactly, Yeah, Ga, puts
Speaker 4: pen to paper. That's just true that anyone else.
Speaker 2: Okay, Well, I'm okay, I'm committing that in the next
Speaker 2: calendar year, I will publish my essay on half Humor.
Speaker 2: And I don't care if it's in Barry white is
Speaker 2: sub Stack. It's going to get published.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's right.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go right wings like no one else will
Speaker 2: publish you.
Speaker 1: I don't know, so col Okay, let's let's cut the ship.
Speaker 1: The ship. So you have a show at Union Hall
Speaker 1: or something.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's called Justice Gals.
Speaker 1: And it's sort of like it's all like the like
Speaker 1: your funny friends, Like it's just like listening to your
Speaker 1: funny friends totally.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and this is a spin off of your previous show.
Speaker 4: LGBT lol. Right, yeah, yeah, I love that show.
Speaker 1: Thank you. That was a huge hit. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: it was a different time. It was.
Speaker 4: It was a different time. I feel bad about like
Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that we said, but.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well the time I can't publicly talk about a
Speaker 1: lot of it because of a lot souit no exactly exactly,
Speaker 1: which is a blessing and a curse.
Speaker 4: Yeah, monetarily a curse, but like public relations wise, a blessing.
Speaker 1: I don't have a show at Union Hall. I'm sorry,
Speaker 1: So you either want to tell you we are like.
Speaker 4: Some we're playing this weird game where we're like not
Speaker 4: saying your show. And also that's fine.
Speaker 2: It's funny because we of course to us, it's obvious
Speaker 2: what the show is. But I realized that the not
Speaker 2: the whole point, part of the point of us talking
Speaker 2: is to.
Speaker 1: Promote the show. Well, not that it needs it, not
Speaker 1: that it needs well, that's the thing. It is so load.
Speaker 1: It is sold out, but we just added one more week.
Speaker 2: Oh well, this is going to make all the difference,
Speaker 2: because I heard that one that extra week actually is
Speaker 2: not so yeah.
Speaker 4: That one the last week last week it sold up
Speaker 4: until that last week.
Speaker 2: You thought you were like, you got really cocky and
Speaker 2: you were like, wow, it's sold out an extra week.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it's one week. Everyone that wanted tickets.
Speaker 4: They got them, they got them.
Speaker 1: They're good. Yeah, but yeah, it's.
Speaker 2: Called Oh Mary, if we're gonna be honest for a.
Speaker 4: Secon, if we can be honest, if we can cut
Speaker 4: the bullshit and.
Speaker 2: Got the bullshit and be kurt and honest like New
Speaker 2: Yorkers rather than a Los Angeles sort of like talking yep, yep,
Speaker 2: yep without anything, thank you. And we've both seen it obviously.
Speaker 2: Of course, here's the thing. Here's my thing with the show.
Speaker 2: With with this show is like every superletive about it
Speaker 2: has been said, and I agree with all of them,
Speaker 2: and I'm like, what original thing can I.
Speaker 1: Say that we'll add to it. Yeah, And also.
Speaker 2: I know Cole can see through fake praise. It's like
Speaker 2: so so I'm like there's another layer where I'm like, Okay,
Speaker 2: I think the.
Speaker 1: Best thing you could say is enough has been said
Speaker 1: about it.
Speaker 4: Oh that's really smart and it's fine, and.
Speaker 1: Enough's been said about it. It's good. No, no, but
Speaker 1: let's not no, but it is.
Speaker 2: Actually it is one of those rare things that is
Speaker 2: in fact as good as everyone says it is. And
Speaker 2: then you're like, well, it sort of sucks that we
Speaker 2: used up all the superlatives to talk about.
Speaker 1: Like salt burn.
Speaker 4: Yeah, soup and salt super and salt burn.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 4: No, it's an incredible show, absolutely groundbreaking.
Speaker 1: Yeah it really, it just is.
Speaker 4: You're one of the greatest we've got, and you know it,
Speaker 4: and you know it, and this is such a perfect encapsulation.
Speaker 1: And taste and performance.
Speaker 2: And you know, I say this as someone who goes
Speaker 2: a lot of theater coal and I go to very little.
Speaker 2: I'm always, I'm always this is a grandmother.
Speaker 1: I get both.
Speaker 2: And yeah, and I'll tell you something. A lot of
Speaker 2: it is not good theater.
Speaker 1: Theaters.
Speaker 4: Theater is a lot of gorgeous theater.
Speaker 1: A lot of it is also good.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but would you not agree that a lot of
Speaker 2: it is not I'm.
Speaker 1: Trying to you're trying to rewards right now, Okay, so
Speaker 1: please campaign and campaigning.
Speaker 4: You know, I gotta I can't burn any bridges.
Speaker 1: Right. Here's a question for you.
Speaker 2: So in this play, oh Mary, you play Mary Todd Lincoln. Yes,
Speaker 2: if let's say, suddenly you're cast in a Marvel movie
Speaker 2: as bat Girl. Yes, you have to leave the show.
Speaker 2: Who would you cast to play?
Speaker 1: Oh I am. I am already like a thousand steps ahead,
Speaker 1: Like I can't wait for other people to play. Really, yes,
Speaker 1: I would prefer not. You don't want to say yeah
Speaker 1: to be No, I would prefer not to be.
Speaker 4: Oh really yeah, that's that's shocking to me. No, No,
Speaker 4: it's exhausting.
Speaker 1: Well, I mean it's fun.
Speaker 4: It's the most fun I've round, Like hell, to be honest,
Speaker 4: I mean yeah, eight shows a week, shows a week,
Speaker 4: I mean is crazy. That's what theater people do.
Speaker 1: You know, that's what we do.
Speaker 4: Oh, we do, that's what we do.
Speaker 1: I mean I have.
Speaker 4: One podcast in a day and I say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 4: I can't do this anymore. I would love.
Speaker 1: I've fantasized about Titus Burgess playing that is Mary Todd Lincoln,
Speaker 1: Donna Murphy. Oh my god, should be amazing. The two
Speaker 1: of them together sort of like every other word, you know,
Speaker 1: arms linked, like looking at each other instead of like
Speaker 1: I mean you say something, yeah.
Speaker 4: Any but like I would love.
Speaker 1: When I was in auditions for the understudy, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is a good role for someone.
Speaker 4: Oh, it absolutely is That's so shocking to me really,
Speaker 4: just because it was like, it's so you and it's
Speaker 4: so like, it's hard. Don't trust my writing. What are
Speaker 4: you trying to say here? No, it's it's hard to imagine.
Speaker 4: I'm sure it would be possible, but.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think this is something people have
Speaker 2: been surprised or not surprised by. But you know, you
Speaker 2: hear Cola Scola doing a let's say, I initially thought
Speaker 2: it was like a solo show, like the one person.
Speaker 1: That's what I was hoping. Like, now I'm sort of like,
Speaker 1: I'm sad that the moment's over where everyone was like, oh,
Speaker 1: this is going to be Cole throwing on a wig
Speaker 1: on a stage alone, yes, and then the surprise of
Speaker 1: it being a capital.
Speaker 2: Oh that was planned. The surprise of it like you well.
Speaker 1: Yes, I mean I knew that's what people's expectators might be.
Speaker 2: But I do think that is yeah, I mean that
Speaker 2: is the big surprise where we're like, oh, this is
Speaker 2: like full on a play.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah.
Speaker 4: With the cast, the gorgeous actors. I wish I could
Speaker 4: tell you any of their names right now. Sweet people,
Speaker 4: sweet sweet people. They smile at me every day I
Speaker 4: just love them all. They respect all my boundaries, don't
Speaker 4: make icon tact.
Speaker 1: I don't ask me how I'm doing. Yeah, that's and
Speaker 1: that's really not Have any of them been like James
Speaker 1: Scully or contra James. No, we haven't had them unkily,
Speaker 1: none of them. Nobody so funny.
Speaker 4: Yeah, she's funny.
Speaker 1: I saw her when I was eighteen, my first year
Speaker 1: in New York, my first Christmas alone in New York.
Speaker 1: I saw trans America and she that movie with she
Speaker 1: was in trans America. Yeah, do you remember she goes
Speaker 1: I don't even remember what it was, like a sex
Speaker 1: Way party or a Tupperware party.
Speaker 4: She's like the hostess of that party.
Speaker 1: And then I saw her on Taylor Max five hour
Speaker 1: The Lilies Revenge at Your Art Center.
Speaker 4: I was like, she played a cuckoo clock and I
Speaker 4: was like, who is she?
Speaker 1: Diva? Dibbs dibbs mine? Wow? I sorry to ask the
Speaker 1: most basic No, I have only base Please why Mary Todd?
Speaker 1: I just really feel like women like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't know. I really don't remember.
Speaker 1: Because I had the idea in two thousand and nine.
Speaker 2: Really whoa And it was basically like.
Speaker 1: An idea that was born out of just the humor
Speaker 1: of it, not using like a history buff no, no, no,
Speaker 1: no no, I just thought, like the idea of me
Speaker 1: playing a historical figure like that, yeah, was was fun. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then all those years later we finally got to
Speaker 1: the Lortel.
Speaker 4: Are you like, are you like super regimented right now?
Speaker 4: Like if you have to perform eight times a week,
Speaker 4: are you like.
Speaker 1: I really don't do anything besides like, uh yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean like sleep and then go to the theater stretch stretch.
Speaker 1: I try to eat at four thirty. See after the show,
Speaker 1: I try to eat two yeah, yeah, yeah, but if
Speaker 1: I'm not up early enough, I only get the one meal.
Speaker 4: It's a difficult life. Here's a ways I don't recommend it.
Speaker 2: Do you feel are the endorphins such that after the
Speaker 2: shows I'd want to go out?
Speaker 1: I know? No, No, I never want to go write
Speaker 1: home really yeah, right to bed, hot creamy meal, right
Speaker 1: to bed.
Speaker 2: Hot creamy meal, all dairy meal, right to bed.
Speaker 1: But I do need a life outside of it, because
Speaker 1: otherwise the play can't be my only reason for existing.
Speaker 1: So now I'm trying to find things to do. If
Speaker 1: you have any suggestions at home, comment below on this
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Speaker 1: for living in your local city elections. They matter, y'all.
Speaker 1: Should we do it for a segment? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, right, I think we have Yeah, yeah, if anything, yes,
Speaker 2: you please, please please, if anything, to get it out
Speaker 2: of the way that we can keep talking for you,
Speaker 2: of course.
Speaker 1: Okay, Cole.
Speaker 4: Our first segment is called straight Shooters, and in this segment,
Speaker 4: we're going.
Speaker 1: To ask you a series of rapid fire questions.
Speaker 4: It's basically this thing or this other thing you're familiarity
Speaker 4: with and complicity and straight culture. The only rule is
Speaker 4: you can't ask any followup questions or will scream at you.
Speaker 1: Okay. That reminds me of a story I've heard about
Speaker 1: Shirley McLain. Later later, okay, So.
Speaker 2: I love these beautiful humans or I hate that ugly
Speaker 2: ass tunic.
Speaker 1: I love these beautiful humans, Cole.
Speaker 4: Curling up with a good book or curling up with
Speaker 4: Succession Zone Sarah Snook curling up with a good book.
Speaker 2: Tap water is Fine or FAP every day at nine,
Speaker 2: FAP every day at night after.
Speaker 4: Your all dairy meal, yeah, okay, a body shaped like
Speaker 4: an hourglass or a potty molded perfect to your ass. Oh,
Speaker 4: body shaped like an hourglass?
Speaker 1: O hmm, respectable?
Speaker 2: Giving it up for your next comic, or living it
Speaker 2: up before we all get hit by a comic.
Speaker 1: Giving it up for your next comic.
Speaker 4: Yeah you have to, okay, white gold or black mold.
Speaker 1: White gold.
Speaker 2: I demand an appeal or I don't understand her whole deal.
Speaker 4: I demand an appeal. Being on the list or lancing officist,
Speaker 4: lancing officeist.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I have an idea what this is crazy?
Speaker 2: I'm like, you know, usually we rate our guest performance
Speaker 2: on a scale of zero to one thousand doves. Here's
Speaker 2: what I've been feeling recently.
Speaker 1: What have you been feeling? Maybe that scale is over.
Speaker 2: Maybe we need to figure out like a new way
Speaker 2: to rank I've been feeling. I think, don't you feel
Speaker 2: like we've been sort of like, okay, we've done every
Speaker 2: version of that answer.
Speaker 1: I guess I like it. But you you see, this
Speaker 1: is what's great about But by the way, yeah, I
Speaker 1: just I can I'm engaged, yes, but I don't have
Speaker 1: to worry about having an answer right anyway? Keep okay,
Speaker 1: So you just like directed us. Now I feel like,
Speaker 1: now we can not keep going. Yeah, no, no, I'm
Speaker 1: watching and listening and just talk naturally.
Speaker 2: You know, I did the number one thing you shouldn't do,
Speaker 2: which is critique, but not come up with an alternative.
Speaker 2: It's actually one of my elus life. I am not
Speaker 2: and I very much think.
Speaker 1: Are you a younger sibling? I'm an older sibling. That's interesting, right,
Speaker 1: of course, just like most things about me. I feel
Speaker 1: like that's a younger sibling thing.
Speaker 2: You think, so, yes, I feel like at some point
Speaker 2: in my life I was like criticizing. Criticism is a
Speaker 2: sign of intelligence, and the more you criticize, the more
Speaker 2: intelligent you are. Yeah, and so you know, you go
Speaker 2: into and I think it's a very childish.
Speaker 1: Where in your body is that? Sorry, this is only
Speaker 1: my therapist asks all the time. And where in the
Speaker 1: body in your body do you feel that?
Speaker 4: Like it's coming out of my head?
Speaker 1: Right? What do you mean?
Speaker 4: I always say my stomach, like my stomach.
Speaker 1: Oh, it's all those creamy meals. Creamy meals both show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry I cut you. You were going you you
Speaker 1: were talking about renovating the scale.
Speaker 2: Yes, right, Solutions book Alert renovating.
Speaker 1: Red Scale Scale, My Life, My Weight Loss Journey, My
Speaker 1: Lost Journey on the Stage, Chapter one, Creamy Meals, Creamy
Speaker 1: Meals question Mark.
Speaker 4: Yeah, well I just wanted for the scale. I do
Speaker 4: like that it is something that is truly from twenty twenty. Yeah,
Speaker 4: and is like that we have stuck with for seemingly
Speaker 4: no that sense. It gets funnier as it goes, and.
Speaker 1: I think it's funny.
Speaker 4: I think about literally being like four years from now
Speaker 4: and still doing that and people are like, what is
Speaker 4: that even care?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, you've won it over. You've already won meal
Speaker 2: over beautiful.
Speaker 1: Wow? Wow? Could Georgie get cast in? Well it's not musical,
Speaker 1: Well we still need to know you have range.
Speaker 2: I guess it is Musicalpol no spoilers, but.
Speaker 4: That was a spoiler.
Speaker 1: That was a huge spoiler. How do you feel You
Speaker 1: can't just say you no spoilers after you spoilers. That's
Speaker 1: not how it works.
Speaker 4: Do you think of yourself as solutions oriented?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I actually like that. Yeah me too. Yeah. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: I'm a complainer.
Speaker 2: You're well, but you are a creator And I don't
Speaker 2: mean that in the sense of being an lgbt Q
Speaker 2: creator making their voice heard. I mean that in the
Speaker 2: sense that you do. You're not someone who's like, oh,
Speaker 2: they don't want me here, I'm gonna cry about it.
Speaker 2: You're like, they don't want me here.
Speaker 1: I'm going to go I'm going to make a better
Speaker 1: I'm going to make it better. Yeah. I guess in
Speaker 1: that way, Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 4: I I'm kind of like solutions bass no I am yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: I think. Well, okay, so that's sort of like fight
Speaker 1: flight or freeze, right, yeah, Like, oh, I had never
Speaker 1: heard of the phone.
Speaker 4: You've never heard of freeze. I've heard fight a million times.
Speaker 1: You need to get back in the.
Speaker 4: Fight flight or freeze.
Speaker 1: I love this. I might be freeze. I'm absolutely freeze. Freeze.
Speaker 2: Oh God, to freeze identified gay cancers running a small
Speaker 2: business together, good good luck making proper.
Speaker 4: I think a lot of people are are freeze.
Speaker 1: I think freeze.
Speaker 4: It just to me it makes the most sense because
Speaker 4: I'm like, well, I'm not gonna run away, but I'm
Speaker 4: also not going to start a fight.
Speaker 1: But you don't know what to do. You're like, I
Speaker 1: can't fight back.
Speaker 2: I'm putting my body on the line by doing nothing.
Speaker 4: Yes, I will say to you know, if there's multiple
Speaker 4: freezes in a room, I think it's sort of you know,
Speaker 4: it's like you might both be bottoms, but eventually, when
Speaker 4: you're penetrating, someone's going to be topping.
Speaker 1: Does this make sense? Yes, yes, yes, but if.
Speaker 4: You aren't and I feel like if we're both freezes,
Speaker 4: there many times in our relationship where you have been
Speaker 4: the one that is ready to fight.
Speaker 1: That's true in a good way. That's true.
Speaker 4: And I've gotten to keep my freeze privilege. Freeze.
Speaker 1: Wait, but I was this was related to yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: where like rather like there's complain, there's offer a solution,
Speaker 1: and then there's leave.
Speaker 4: Right, I'm I'm more apt to leave. Oh interesting, I'm
Speaker 4: more apt to leave as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, complain for solution or leap. I'm complain. I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: There's just no So if you're like you're you're waiting
Speaker 1: for a table for a really long time.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I'm giving everyone dirty looks. I'm sighing dramatically,
Speaker 2: looking at my phone, sort of going over to people's table,
Speaker 2: knocking over all their food, calling them really offensive slurs.
Speaker 4: Yes, yeah yeah, and then and you I'm sort of like,
Speaker 4: let's go. Yeah, yeah, or I'm like, it's like.
Speaker 1: Like it's finely wait, it's not worth it. It's not
Speaker 1: worth it, And I, well, you're less, you're generally less
Speaker 1: like willing to wait wait for you prioritize comfort. I
Speaker 1: guess what I'm trying to say, Like youise comfort over
Speaker 1: like waiting for the exclusive thing. Would you say that? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think that is true, whereas I'm like, let's say
Speaker 1: I really want to go. It's humiliating to wait.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, I'm so sad, But you know what
Speaker 2: the reward is then getting the table and watching other
Speaker 2: people wait and feeling superior to them.
Speaker 1: You bring up a very good that's from my stomach.
Speaker 4: I also, I feel like the nice things are like
Speaker 4: rarely worth it, Like the pain of waiting.
Speaker 1: And waiting pushed around And what was the last thing
Speaker 1: you waited for that you were glad that I was glad?
Speaker 4: Hmm, god, I have no idea, to be completely honest,
Speaker 4: it's been a long time I had to wait in
Speaker 4: a line for anything.
Speaker 1: What's the last thing you waited for it was worth it?
Speaker 4: This is the most riveting segment. Let's yeah, let's really
Speaker 4: no one.
Speaker 1: Has a thing they waited for. Yeah, I guess I
Speaker 1: just usually get things for free.
Speaker 4: Yeah, olive oil gelato?
Speaker 1: Is that true? I did wait for it.
Speaker 4: I was happy they waited.
Speaker 1: Did you really have to humble yourself to wait for something?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: I also see, you know, in Los Angeles, California.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, to be able to be right back.
Speaker 4: I feel that I see a lot of people waiting
Speaker 4: in line for random, random stuff. They sort of have
Speaker 4: like cronut culture all the time.
Speaker 1: That's sort of all they have.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And so I'm when I see some people waiting
Speaker 4: in line, I'm like, Okay, well that's what I don't want, Like,
Speaker 4: I'll never go to that place. It like almost looks
Speaker 4: more unappealing because it's like probably just some gimmick or
Speaker 4: was like written on some blog or something. You're not
Speaker 4: going to trick me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm like, I'm actually a free thinker. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's no. You're right.
Speaker 2: Well, there's two kinds of waiting, and one.
Speaker 1: Is like there's only two, yes, male or female exactly,
Speaker 1: So what's male waiting? Male waiting? Oh god?
Speaker 2: Okay, so I think one is what you're describing crow
Speaker 2: nut culture of like waiting for the latest trend.
Speaker 1: Yourselfsculum.
Speaker 2: But it's also like it's also like blogger, blonde blogger.
Speaker 1: Sure, you know, big hat.
Speaker 2: Big hat blonde blogger, waiting for the next trend. You
Speaker 2: are so trend chasing, you have no personality. Your entire
Speaker 2: life is chasing things that other people are doing. That's
Speaker 2: one second kind of waiting is that, if you know,
Speaker 2: you know, kind of waiting where you're in the know
Speaker 2: and you and you're part of this like exclusive you've
Speaker 2: read the paywalled blog that's telling you the new thing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well they're both the same thing, though you
Speaker 1: think so, and just one of them, one of them.
Speaker 4: You think you're better than.
Speaker 1: Right, that's it. That's not a bad point, you know.
Speaker 1: So I'll tell you which one I prefer to be
Speaker 1: in of course, but it's the same thing. We all
Speaker 1: just want to be at the at the front of
Speaker 1: the line, right, We all want to cut in line,
Speaker 1: don't we. We'll be right back and we're back.
Speaker 4: And that was such a convincing we'll be right back.
Speaker 4: That was actually terrifying because.
Speaker 1: It felt so real. Yeah. I actually was like, we
Speaker 1: need to throw to commercial. Yeah, that's so fun.
Speaker 4: I could feel we don't even have headphones on, and I.
Speaker 1: Was like, oh, yeah, anyway, how are you really hot?
Speaker 1: Creamy meals? When we return? Yeah, starts crying hyaterically. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they like, it's just been really hard.
Speaker 4: Wait, I wanted to bring I have some topic.
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, yes, topic, you are like in charge of us. Okay.
Speaker 1: It is like, so I was trying to think of
Speaker 1: straight things, like straight culture things rights like five cameras.
Speaker 4: Oh it's a Samsung Galaxy.
Speaker 2: It literally does have five, So them are flashes. I'm
Speaker 2: just like, that is too many.
Speaker 4: You don't know what I'm up to. It looks like
Speaker 4: you don't know what i'mout.
Speaker 1: You don't know what I'm up independent films.
Speaker 4: There's there's a poll at JFK Airport that has truly
Speaker 4: like fourteen surveillance cameras on it, and it looks like
Speaker 4: a commentary on the surveillance state.
Speaker 1: That's kind of what your phone is. Yeah, stop surveilling us. Well, uh,
Speaker 1: do you have anything else to say? You mentioned Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift earlier. Do you want to say you're okay? What
Speaker 1: are I was thinking? Well, I was thinking about straight
Speaker 1: culture things, but I could only really think of examples
Speaker 1: of of things that are like straight trying to be
Speaker 1: gay like straight things that are influenced by gay culture.
Speaker 4: Okay, like hotels.
Speaker 1: Yeah, based on cruising, but based on based on cruising,
Speaker 1: based on piet tears. Yes, it's like, well this is
Speaker 1: better because then you can just leave. And it's like,
Speaker 1: well that's the you took the fun out of a piano.
Speaker 1: Like right, it's straight people, you know. Okay, so hotels,
Speaker 1: salad bar, because salad's gay culture, but salad bar. The
Speaker 1: salad bar is like.
Speaker 4: But you can pick what you want and you're like,
Speaker 4: you're not improving on.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't I mean whatever? I go on, Ye, baby carrots, right,
Speaker 1: it's like, isn't it so funny that they're like little?
Speaker 4: And you're like, oh, that's almost.
Speaker 2: Like you've never experienced happiness.
Speaker 4: Yeah, my favorite thing on earth is to buy baby carrots.
Speaker 1: Never ever open the bag.
Speaker 4: I'm like, oh, this is gonna be such a perfect
Speaker 4: snack with hummus, and then I just leave it there
Speaker 4: until they get slimy. Yeah, and then I'm moving seven
Speaker 4: years later and I'm like, oh, I have to throw
Speaker 4: these away now. Yeah, that's such a what.
Speaker 2: Are people afraid of with just buying normal carrots?
Speaker 1: I would really love to know. Is it the little
Speaker 1: hairs that they have?
Speaker 4: It's the little hairs. It's sort of the like, well,
Speaker 4: what am I gonna do? Eat a whole carrot?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: Yeah, who has the time?
Speaker 2: What if I just want to say, you want twenty
Speaker 2: five baby carrots?
Speaker 4: Well, you can take as many as you want and
Speaker 4: you can put it back.
Speaker 1: The big carrot. You got to chop it up. Oh
Speaker 1: my god.
Speaker 2: I mean, there's nothing better than feeling chopping up a
Speaker 2: carrot and then putting the leftovers in a little ziploc bag.
Speaker 2: Something you feel like you're cooking. You feel like you're
Speaker 2: doing cottage core.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 4: The way that I want every single thing I eat
Speaker 4: to be pre cut.
Speaker 1: Into this is like not being.
Speaker 4: Well, I'm I hate doing dishes.
Speaker 1: Yes, so I will buy a pre chop. Everyone hates
Speaker 1: doing that's so, yes exactly.
Speaker 4: Wait wait wait wait sorry George, this is crazy. This
Speaker 4: is crazy because I've never been able to talk to
Speaker 4: this with anyone.
Speaker 1: But I hate doing dishes so much that I I
Speaker 1: will buy the pre chopped done ho much Wow? And
Speaker 1: David Sidaris has this thing in a book like that
Speaker 1: like his husband Hugh will we'll make like himself a
Speaker 1: dinner like for one while he's alone, but he hates
Speaker 1: going through He would rather like use his finger than
Speaker 1: like dirty a spoon, you know, and I feel the same.
Speaker 4: Well, we've I've gotten in some hot water before with
Speaker 4: our with our listeners because I talked about how I
Speaker 4: used the same cup.
Speaker 1: For this was actually at a live show. I don't
Speaker 1: think you've ever thought, wait, what do you mean like
Speaker 1: I have a water glass, yes, and you keep it
Speaker 1: by the sink.
Speaker 2: I just that it gasps from the audience because you
Speaker 2: said something, you said a phrase, an adjective that I
Speaker 2: will never forget.
Speaker 4: What gas gets cloudy eventually cloudy. Yeah, but it's my
Speaker 4: glass and it's fine.
Speaker 1: How many days do you think I'm not going to
Speaker 1: see I I I probably use the water glass, like
Speaker 1: two days. I'll go a little long ago. I'm probably
Speaker 1: use three water glasses a day. Why my immune system
Speaker 1: is so strong? And yeah, I use one glass.
Speaker 4: Were you just in the hospital for the that's not
Speaker 4: from the immunity, that's not from an inaction?
Speaker 1: Maybe out? Oh my god, I would love it if
Speaker 1: you've got to be the out and showed after the studio.
Speaker 1: That would be incredible.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I literally like like especially when we were
Speaker 4: in our apartment here, and like I would go, I
Speaker 4: would like, never wash it, and then I would just
Speaker 4: like one day my cup would be missing and I'd
Speaker 4: be like, be shure, where the hell is my cup?
Speaker 4: And he'd be like, well, I washed it and then
Speaker 4: drying rag and I'd be like, I've been looking everywhere
Speaker 4: for it. He just surprise washes it. That's that's okay,
Speaker 4: that's okay.
Speaker 1: My shock is like, wait, but it gets cloudy because
Speaker 1: it's smudged and like lip and fingerprints.
Speaker 4: All whatever it and you know my nightly fiber.
Speaker 2: Wait, this is the other thing that wait, you literally
Speaker 2: put fiber in it, mix it and then keeping water
Speaker 2: out of it without.
Speaker 4: Reeah, water soluble, it gets it dissolves. You guys are
Speaker 4: being so messed up.
Speaker 1: I'm an audience of three hundred and fifty people at
Speaker 1: the Mellhouse all walked out.
Speaker 4: Well, George, it was in San Francisco. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 4: get your facts right because facts matter.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sorry for making you feel insecure again.
Speaker 1: Although it actually feels like you've never been more proud
Speaker 1: of yourself. Well, I just you know, I know how
Speaker 1: the media is gonna run with this.
Speaker 4: How how often do you do dishes?
Speaker 1: Oh? Once a week?
Speaker 4: Same when I'm like living alone, Yeah, I once a week,
Speaker 4: do them quite rarely.
Speaker 1: Yeah, me too. Sometimes things really start to smell that
Speaker 1: in my sink.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'll also like, if I'm doing like takeout lifestyle,
Speaker 4: I like, I'm like, well, I didn't use a dish,
Speaker 4: it won't take out lesle.
Speaker 1: But then but then you know, a little seriou a dessert.
Speaker 2: Oh of course, I'm literally turning into like Trey's mom
Speaker 2: from Sex in the City. I'm about to send both
Speaker 2: of you to what is it called.
Speaker 1: Manners Manners Academy?
Speaker 2: Manners manner, Yeah, Manner's manner.
Speaker 1: Okay, so we have baby carrots, we have hotels, and
Speaker 1: what was the third one? Old?
Speaker 4: Please salad bar salad bar salad bar.
Speaker 1: Okay to me, I would like to unpack hotels a
Speaker 1: little bit.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, because you're staying in one now actually
Speaker 2: that's true.
Speaker 4: Oh my god, because I have a subletter now yeah, yeah,
Speaker 4: shout out to my beautiful subletters. And I'm staying in
Speaker 4: the pod Hotel Eliasburg. There's not a blind on one
Speaker 4: of the windows and it's like facing the street. This
Speaker 4: is not part of the point. I'm just sort of
Speaker 4: painting a picture. Okay, I'll see it. And it's also
Speaker 4: like the rooms like whatever. I'm just like people in
Speaker 4: the street are seeming naked anyway, who cares, who cares?
Speaker 1: Whatever? Lower East Side nineteen seventy nine. Don't tell people
Speaker 1: where it is.
Speaker 4: Oh well it's on Metropolitan and.
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I guess. I mean, yeah, you won't be
Speaker 1: there anywhere. I'll be gone by the time this comes out.
Speaker 1: You'll be back. That's great. So you don't think hotels
Speaker 1: are I think they're I think they're straight inspired by gay.
Speaker 4: I think the straightness comes from the like sanitization of them.
Speaker 4: Sure where it's like every room is the same, but
Speaker 4: there's convenient. It's convenience and you can come and then
Speaker 4: you can you can leave.
Speaker 1: Well, make it easy, don't.
Speaker 4: Offend, like everything's like this is technically a decoration, but
Speaker 4: it's not. You can cheat on your wife here exactly.
Speaker 2: Well, it's based on gay because it's like a straight
Speaker 2: structure is a family home, a family suburban home, and
Speaker 2: then anything the farther away from that you get the
Speaker 2: gay or you get so a hotel. You are unmoored
Speaker 2: from your biological family. You are in fact not in
Speaker 2: your hometown. You are a visitor tran Insians.
Speaker 1: And then also like concierge, like that's being like we
Speaker 1: need a gay guy to tell us where to go
Speaker 1: totally where's good to get Italian? A little queer where yeah,
Speaker 1: where should we're good to get Italian? He's like, oh
Speaker 1: my god, they have the best catch up down the
Speaker 1: street exactly. Oh, here's what you're going to want to do.
Speaker 1: You're going to want to go uptown by yourself. And
Speaker 1: then they like walk out the door and the duds
Speaker 1: like you hear the boy.
Speaker 4: Like, we do not have that at our house back
Speaker 4: in Batesville.
Speaker 1: Batesville a small town, nexic goon town had great girl.
Speaker 2: So yes, and then I also think the thing that
Speaker 2: makes the tael straight is business conference culture kind of
Speaker 2: because uh, conferences and business trips are sort of like
Speaker 2: the the life cruising of straight. Yes, yeah, like there
Speaker 2: is something. It's sort of like take sexual liberation and
Speaker 2: make it depressing, and it's like two people wearing like
Speaker 2: a woman in a skirtsuit and a man who has
Speaker 2: like untucked get this his dress shirt and they are
Speaker 2: flirting at the little open bar, and when I say open,
Speaker 2: you got one drink for fan after.
Speaker 1: That, and you have to present like your little ticket
Speaker 1: to go. We're talking lanyard, lanyard, We're talking lanyard, We're
Speaker 1: talking salad bar, We're talking baby carrots on dispaby carrots
Speaker 1: wow display.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that type of environment, unfortunately, still speaks to me.
Speaker 4: So I'm sure I wish I could be.
Speaker 1: I love hotel.
Speaker 4: Look, I love hotels. You more than anyone, more than anyone.
Speaker 1: I love hotel.
Speaker 4: The amount you hate dishes is the amount you love.
Speaker 2: I mean, of course, the dream is like not paying,
Speaker 2: Like if someone could pay for me to stay at
Speaker 2: a hotel, Yes, and I got room, serve everything for free. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you just you don't have to. You don't have any
Speaker 2: of the responsibilities of your normal life.
Speaker 4: Yeah, do our boutique hotels LGBTQ plus.
Speaker 2: I mean this is complicated because boutik hotels are sort
Speaker 2: of like anything that is kind of like gentrification adjacent.
Speaker 2: It's like it starts how gay and then it becomes straight.
Speaker 2: That's just for the circle of life. Yeah, it's like
Speaker 2: saying like our I don't know.
Speaker 1: Boutique hotels were like gay people trying to pull it back, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 1: and then straight people were like this is sorry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: They're like sorry you putting here? Yeah? Yeah. And also
Speaker 1: I'm secretly Mormon. Maybe not. Don't you think that is
Speaker 1: like a circle. It's like that you get gay gay
Speaker 1: gay gay gay, and then you go right back to
Speaker 1: mommy blogger. Yes, but aesthetically yeah, ooh, so what do
Speaker 1: you think the next hm mommy is mommy blogger the
Speaker 1: new aesthetic? I mean I sort of think are you
Speaker 1: going to be seeing that on the runway? They are
Speaker 1: let's talk let's let's talk fashion, Let's talk fall fashion.
Speaker 4: Finally, what are we going to be seeing? We're seeing
Speaker 4: We're singing mommyl baby carrot, baby vehicles, hybrid.
Speaker 1: Vehicles, salad bar.
Speaker 4: We're seeing tongs from the salad bar. We are cameras everywhere, everywhere.
Speaker 1: Where.
Speaker 2: It's commentary on surveillance, baby carrot, earrings, no clothes, walk,
Speaker 2: bitch walk and read this.
Speaker 1: Kindle walk.
Speaker 4: And a big make it makes sense in the sign
Speaker 4: that yeah, everyone.
Speaker 1: In America makes sense again.
Speaker 2: Everyone holding fake protest signs like in the Kendle commercial,
Speaker 2: but they all say different.
Speaker 1: Internet slang terms.
Speaker 2: If someone's holding a science says blur, someone holding a
Speaker 2: sign that says the interwebs.
Speaker 4: Huh wow yeah hashtag me thinks.
Speaker 2: I think someone uh painted in blood the methinks movements
Speaker 2: over on their bare chest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so what's something? Yeah?
Speaker 4: What what's like what we're gonna see on the runway?
Speaker 1: Well, like this, for example, what's so straight it's going
Speaker 1: to be attacking me? No, I'm not attacking you. I'm
Speaker 1: merely suggesting maybe it's time for you to be attacked that.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, what's not what's to appropriate from straight people?
Speaker 2: Yes, Corla is playing into Sam's camo.
Speaker 4: You know what I think it is actually what old
Speaker 4: Navy core, Old Navy core.
Speaker 1: Is going to be now gay. Yeah. So you mean
Speaker 1: ill fitting jeans and like pol do you remember that, yes, performance,
Speaker 1: old Navy performance.
Speaker 4: And god the ninetieth Could you see the like little
Speaker 4: like a fourth of July T shirt that's like too small?
Speaker 2: Hmm, Wait what do you mean fourth of July T shirt?
Speaker 4: Like America Old Navy always would put out like a
Speaker 4: yearly fourth of July. Oh, I've never oh, I would
Speaker 4: wait every day on the third of July.
Speaker 1: Just it was It's like when they announced the met Golf,
Speaker 1: I was like, what's this year's old? Maybe fourth of July?
Speaker 1: T O, my god, A little like plastic flip flop?
Speaker 1: Oh put that on the right babys, beanie babies.
Speaker 4: I don't know what do you think straight people are
Speaker 4: going to or gave people are gonna.
Speaker 2: Okay, no, this is actually a really good question. I mean,
Speaker 2: do you think it's been long enough flip flop wise
Speaker 2: that Havayana's are going to make an iron What the
Speaker 2: hell is that? The plastic rubber flip flops with the
Speaker 2: Brazilian flag on them?
Speaker 1: You know?
Speaker 4: Oh?
Speaker 1: Sure, wait with the Brazilian flag. Yeah, that's the one
Speaker 1: with the X. And then yeah, wait is this not
Speaker 1: have I never heard of this? I'm showing everyone maybe
Speaker 1: in Greece, Yeah, maybe it didn't make it over here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh this is crazy.
Speaker 4: Oh so amazing that we're different differently. But what I
Speaker 4: love that, George, is like talking with yourselves and then
Speaker 4: we got.
Speaker 2: Completely these No, these mean nothing.
Speaker 4: To you, They mean absolutely nothing to me.
Speaker 1: They mean nothing to me.
Speaker 4: Is I've never I've never seen that woman in my life.
Speaker 1: I don't know her, and I don't claim to know her.
Speaker 2: Well, maybe they were completely euro and now Americans are
Speaker 2: going to discover them warehouse men.
Speaker 4: Are we going to start going there? I actually, I
Speaker 4: mean I think there's a world in which like sort
Speaker 4: of a nineties businessman's suit comes back.
Speaker 1: I think that's already ready back.
Speaker 2: I think, in fact, the issue is at some point
Speaker 2: it's going to go back to skinny pant and.
Speaker 4: I, oh, are we? Are we going back?
Speaker 2: Because trends are so quick. Now you know, you think
Speaker 2: you're safe.
Speaker 1: You think you're safe The second I buy a pair
Speaker 1: of shoes their last season, toss them right in the garbage.
Speaker 2: The moment I get home, remember how I legally blonde?
Speaker 2: It literally it hinged is on the gay guy being like,
Speaker 2: don't you you know, tap your last season produt shoes
Speaker 2: at me?
Speaker 1: And then she's like, last season product, last season product.
Speaker 1: He's gay?
Speaker 4: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: It's a very my cousin Vinnie, Yeah yeah yeah. But
Speaker 1: they're queering that we've we've been through the Sopranos. Yeah,
Speaker 1: what's the show girls? Okay, here's something.
Speaker 2: What if it is like guy news radio, gay guys
Speaker 2: growing out their hair and having big blowouts, growing out
Speaker 2: there yeah, like they literally have Christian woman at the blowout.
Speaker 1: This is what's something that John really calls TV hair
Speaker 1: where it's like, yes, it goes down, then yeah, it's
Speaker 1: Deborah mess down and then like five curls in front
Speaker 1: and every woman on television has that hair. So maybe
Speaker 1: the issue maybe like next.
Speaker 4: Year, are three of us going to be here with that?
Speaker 4: What if?
Speaker 1: I don't know. I do think that is kind of
Speaker 1: the last friend here is more when we return, sorry,
Speaker 1: and we're back, and we're back, and more when we
Speaker 1: return because gay guys welcome back.
Speaker 2: It's the only hairstyle gay guys haven't tried is long
Speaker 2: beach waves.
Speaker 4: Long beachways.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be something.
Speaker 4: I don't think that could be. No, no, I can't,
Speaker 4: I can't follow.
Speaker 1: Well, that's why it's so, that's why this is This
Speaker 1: is where innovation is born. Is you think, oh, I
Speaker 1: can't picture that at all, and then lo and behold
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Oh crocs. I get it, it's ironic.
Speaker 4: But they're like, I think it's just going to be
Speaker 4: too hard for the upkeep, the upkeep to commit to
Speaker 4: growing your hair out. I think you know, you know,
Speaker 4: the gay guy lifestyle so go, go, go, you.
Speaker 1: Know, and they just want something that's easy, messy buns
Speaker 1: that we've we've already done done.
Speaker 2: Wow, it's crazy that we can't think of a single
Speaker 2: thing that's going to be a new gay gay trend.
Speaker 1: Somebody's got to think of one. Cole Well, my prediction.
Speaker 1: My prediction was sideburns.
Speaker 2: Remember I said, the new facial hair trend.
Speaker 1: It's the only one we have for a wig.
Speaker 4: But yeah, I had. I had huge sideburns in high school.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, and blue black hair. Oh yeah, that must
Speaker 1: have been pretty. I was pretty out there.
Speaker 4: I was willing to go there as a kid, you know,
Speaker 4: like I took those risks.
Speaker 2: Do you find yourself slipping into that at as you're
Speaker 2: like doing promo for the show?
Speaker 1: No?
Speaker 2: No, no, only like that character and generally like the
Speaker 2: cliches of being interviewed, just being like, you know, I.
Speaker 4: Knew I was fun because no one else would would
Speaker 4: know that I was kidding.
Speaker 1: I see here amongst family.
Speaker 2: Dare I say, and you don't want to take the
Speaker 2: risk of someone thinking or being earnest?
Speaker 1: No? Absolutely, Wait, I just realized. I went to the
Speaker 1: Sistine Chapel a year ago. Okay, to pray more on
Speaker 1: that later, but it was I thought it was so ugly. Really,
Speaker 1: oh because they you know, they take they cleaned it
Speaker 1: in the nineties. Yeah. Oh, and the colors of its
Speaker 1: modern well no, it's like nineties Italian, like New Jersey
Speaker 1: Italian restaurant. Oh, because it's too right, it's so bright and.
Speaker 4: Like and that's why I never watched my cup And
Speaker 4: this is why.
Speaker 1: And I realized, like, oh, that's where that aesthetic came
Speaker 1: from from, like nineties Italian restaurants, because the Sistine Chapel
Speaker 1: had just been cleaned and it was like exciting, and
Speaker 1: so then everyone was like, let's do that in our restaurant.
Speaker 4: Nineties Italian restaurants are based on the Sistine Chapel.
Speaker 1: That makes sense to me. That makes sense.
Speaker 2: It certainly is based on good morning, Wake Wake up America.
Speaker 4: I hope you're listening. Take notes, take notes. Okay, wow, wow,
Speaker 4: this is what happens when you sleep. So when you
Speaker 4: go there and you're like, this is ugly, you know
Speaker 4: what did that feel like for you? Were you like,
Speaker 4: you know what, good because the church has enough as
Speaker 4: it is, or were you like, damn, I was really
Speaker 4: hoping to be moved today.
Speaker 1: I was really hoping to be moved. And I'll be honest.
Speaker 1: My friend Claudia Odaugherty, who I was there with, fell
Speaker 1: asleep in the Steam Chapel.
Speaker 4: I fell asleep in the Systeine Chapel. It was it
Speaker 4: was a long you just like tore you sit down,
Speaker 4: you can sit down, you can sit down. And it
Speaker 4: was this long hour's long tour.
Speaker 1: It was so hot and we.
Speaker 4: Were just like okay, okay, yes, all this stuff, all
Speaker 4: this stuff, we just want to see that damn roof
Speaker 4: you're ceiling, okay.
Speaker 1: And we got there and it was so like warm,
Speaker 1: and you fell asleep and then you're like okay, yeah.
Speaker 1: Literally we had eaten like six hot creamy meals and
Speaker 1: just like full of cheese. It's like a marathon.
Speaker 4: People were just handing you cups of warm warm.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Well that's too bad. Yeah, it's okay. I just
Speaker 1: wanted to And it is tough. That is something up.
Speaker 2: When you build something up and then you're disappointed by it.
Speaker 1: You know. Any notes for the Sistine Chapel workers, keep
Speaker 1: it dirty. Stop scrubbing it, because they left a little
Speaker 1: patch dirty to show you, like, and this is what
Speaker 1: it looked like, and I was like, yes, the agent,
Speaker 1: it was the filter that it needed. Yeah, a Valencia filter,
Speaker 1: Yes it was. Which filter would I say it was?
Speaker 1: Oh my god, oh my god? Okay, I would say
Speaker 1: new York. Honestly, put the New York filter on this chapel.
Speaker 1: It'll really really be better. I know it sounds crazy,
Speaker 1: but it's time.
Speaker 2: I've only lived here for three years, but I do
Speaker 2: actually feel like a New York like to get a
Speaker 2: ninety nine cents light. I'm like, okay, to be fair,
Speaker 2: she's right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel my family has never visited, and I
Speaker 1: don't ever want them to because when I see people
Speaker 1: with their families, like on the train or like walking around,
Speaker 1: it's painful. No, it makes me so angry actually, or
Speaker 1: it makes me it makes my heart hurt. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: the you're immediately a child when you're showing your parents
Speaker 1: the city and you're like, this.
Speaker 4: Is my city, mom, look like we like, I just
Speaker 4: like eat here every day and it's really well.
Speaker 2: Also, it makes you to show your surroundings to anyone
Speaker 2: really puts into focus how like uninteresting most daily lives are.
Speaker 2: It's like you're showing someone.
Speaker 1: The coffee shop where you get your coffee. Yeah, like
Speaker 1: they have a really good cortado here. I like, and
Speaker 1: your mom's like, my niece, can I can I sit here?
Speaker 1: My knees backed an up, and.
Speaker 4: They're like.
Speaker 1: Like, mom, you know my friends never sit. Never sit.
Speaker 1: You don't sit in New York, Mama. I like my parents.
Speaker 4: The first time they visited was like I was maybe
Speaker 4: twenty five or something, and I like, in retrospect, I'm
Speaker 4: so embarrassed by the places that I was like, you
Speaker 4: have to see.
Speaker 1: This, yeah, because it was just like smack, It's like
Speaker 1: all macaroni and cheese restaurant and like being like, no,
Speaker 1: this bar is really cool. Yeah, and it's like why
Speaker 1: would they ever want a bar? They like dive. It
Speaker 1: just has the same feeling of like parents' weekend. I mean,
Speaker 1: there's a specific night I went to college, but I
Speaker 1: understand there there's still time. There's still there's still time
Speaker 1: I get that degree. Yeah, how would you cancel that?
Speaker 2: Artistic shows there is of course, nothing more moving in
Speaker 2: terms of storylines than older women going back to Oh
Speaker 2: my god.
Speaker 4: I mean this is not the same thing.
Speaker 1: But Margot Martindale in Paris, tim you know, going on
Speaker 1: that trip to Paris by herself. Oh my god, I
Speaker 1: don't remember that one I have seen. She's an older woman. Well,
Speaker 1: she's a woman of a certain age. She's a male
Speaker 1: carrier at home, and she's started taking French classes late
Speaker 1: in life. And then she goes she's always wanted to
Speaker 1: go to Paris. I'm gonna cry, you know what, I.
Speaker 4: George, I feel that an apology for what because when
Speaker 4: Cole says, you know, in whatever, I say, beautiful, but
Speaker 4: if you were to bring it up first, I would go, okay, okayens.
Speaker 2: And that is like to me, it's such a sort
Speaker 2: of like almost embarrassing part of like it's like I.
Speaker 1: Only know Margot Martindale's part. Yeah I've only seen that
Speaker 1: one clip.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, I've only seen that one clip. I don't
Speaker 4: know it, like I'm not like watching it, like I've
Speaker 4: never watched.
Speaker 1: Like is like, mommy blogger, I think it's that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why I think it's Thatsia.
Speaker 2: Town, which we don't like, but we do know, like
Speaker 2: John Galliano being like it was inspired by.
Speaker 1: Margot Mark Yeah yeah, well yeah, so carrot.
Speaker 2: Baby carrots, baby carrots or hotels or hotels. No, we're
Speaker 2: doing hotels.
Speaker 1: We're doing hotels. Okay, so.
Speaker 2: All right, we've covered conferences, we've covered cruising, we've covered
Speaker 2: home away from home, cat a tear.
Speaker 4: We haven't cover the gay guy telling you where to go,
Speaker 4: the g guy telling you. Have covered the literal straight
Speaker 4: couple going to a hotel and instantly feeling like they're
Speaker 4: being sordid and kinky because they're not in their house.
Speaker 2: Well, and then of course the disappointment that comes after
Speaker 2: that of wherever you go there you are wow looking around.
Speaker 1: Wow, I guess we're actually not happy. By the way,
Speaker 1: can we talk about the Bible litter in every room? Yeah? Wait,
Speaker 1: why is that?
Speaker 2: That's why they started bautique hotels so they could put
Speaker 2: in a different but they were like Sally Rooney, Yeah,
Speaker 2: the Bible is I always think it's sort of charming
Speaker 2: that there are these leftover like Bible in a hotel room.
Speaker 2: To me is very like leftover from a different era
Speaker 2: in a way that I do.
Speaker 1: When men held the door men help, I think we're
Speaker 1: going to be seeing men holding the door open for
Speaker 1: you on the runway this season.
Speaker 4: We're going to see men.
Speaker 1: The door open around the corner. Clean Chapel ceilings clean,
Speaker 1: just guys being guys being guys, falling asleep in a
Speaker 1: stunning tourist destination.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think this is obvious. I feel the the
Speaker 4: thing that gay people are gonna appropriate is Bible chain
Speaker 4: hotel Hilton. I think boutique hotels as like a fantasy
Speaker 4: is dead. It's like we are post Instagram. This goes
Speaker 4: along with me.
Speaker 1: Now, I'm like, if I'm ever on a red carpet,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna wear a dress made up. You know that
Speaker 1: credit card dress. Yes, Hilton honors.
Speaker 2: Car also gig chic gay guys like that work in fashion.
Speaker 2: Getting married ironically in a Hilton, I mean, I mean
Speaker 2: like overhead lighting Hiltons.
Speaker 4: There's something chic about that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Terrible carpet, Like the carpet is so old.
Speaker 4: Yeah, what are those called?
Speaker 1: The like the the buffet, like the hot hot bar,
Speaker 1: the hot bars like with those little torches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like chic gay guy wedding. And the food is
Speaker 2: a hot bar with like little sausage.
Speaker 1: Links, sausage links.
Speaker 4: Meal, it's breakfast, it's breakfast for dinner.
Speaker 2: It's breakfast for dinner, hard scrambled eggs, sausage link.
Speaker 1: Wedding wedding donuts meal with all the fixes, raisins, brown sugars,
Speaker 1: one serving fruit loops that you take off the little
Speaker 1: cover and but but instead of fruit loops, it's like
Speaker 1: the couples, like you know, like the little wedding rings
Speaker 1: Jared and and Emery or whatever their name is. And
Speaker 1: it's it's funny because it's like fruit loops. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: that's hilarious. I'm laughing. They talk about blur it's bring
Speaker 1: your kids, bring your kids, which is yeah, that's bold,
Speaker 1: that's bold.
Speaker 4: I think that we're going to be this season on
Speaker 4: the right, We're going to see.
Speaker 1: Bringing kids fruit loops, but they're gay.
Speaker 4: Yes, the name Emory, Yeah, the name Memory is everywhere.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Hilton honors dirty carpet.
Speaker 4: But I do think there's something to this because, like
Speaker 4: you know, we've talked about the how we're in the
Speaker 4: Martini and mush peas era, and I think the next
Speaker 4: step of like what is gross that we can just
Speaker 4: pretend isn't anymore.
Speaker 1: It's that's because I tell food culture.
Speaker 2: Yes, I that's definitely one direction for the modern man.
Speaker 2: I almost think we've now gone so far into like
Speaker 2: appropriating trashy stuff direction. That being a full on pretentious,
Speaker 2: little pinky finger up gay guy is gonna come back.
Speaker 4: But I think with with a with a.
Speaker 1: With an eye towards like like remember those commercial I
Speaker 1: keep seeing these on the algorithm, the like Vienna coffee,
Speaker 1: like the little powdered Do you know what I'm talking about?
Speaker 1: The little coffee that comes in like instant coffee.
Speaker 4: No, wait, hold on, is this your version of whatever
Speaker 4: that sandal was? Oh my god, Oh I'm not you know,
Speaker 4: we're all.
Speaker 1: Living in our social media bubbles. Yeah, I'm thinking like, uh,
Speaker 1: like stuff that was marketed as fancy that you know,
Speaker 1: like the you know what.
Speaker 2: You know what's a great example of this is the cheese,
Speaker 2: like the you know those round red cheeses.
Speaker 1: Baby Bill? Is that? Yeah? Yeah yeah?
Speaker 2: Don't you feel like that was at some point market
Speaker 2: it is like fancy?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, yeah, now we know. It's like Briars
Speaker 1: ice cream was very like like Bernadette Peters and the commercials,
Speaker 1: like I guess basically it's certification. It's sort of wasp
Speaker 1: Upper East Side wasp culture that you can get at
Speaker 1: the super you can get the supermarket. Yeah, sure, like
Speaker 1: v like what was that ice cream? Cake. Do you
Speaker 1: know what I mean? That had like ribbons. It was
Speaker 1: like ribbons of ice cream. God, now aging myself here,
Speaker 1: I'm aging myself here. We're gonna this season on the Runway,
Speaker 1: aging yourself yourself.
Speaker 2: I also think no more minimal minimalist flatware.
Speaker 4: And uh, I see what you're saying. You're it's sort
Speaker 4: of capodim Swans.
Speaker 1: Yes, it's this season on the Runway.
Speaker 4: Swans, no flat no simp at the supermarket.
Speaker 1: Capodian is one that's at the supermarket in your ice
Speaker 1: cream y yeah, or like the fancy like TV Dinners.
Speaker 4: Was like you know, I know, like like that was like, uh,
Speaker 4: like that's what That's what we're going to see on
Speaker 4: the right.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's them from a conservatism because it's literally
Speaker 2: like when America, you know, in the public imagination when
Speaker 2: America was great was mad Men era.
Speaker 4: Well, but this is I'm even thinking of the nineties
Speaker 4: when those things.
Speaker 1: Jealous.
Speaker 2: That's sort of they've tried that so many times and
Speaker 2: it's not.
Speaker 1: I love jello salad though, really love it it, love
Speaker 1: the taste. Is that true? Yes, it's just Jello and
Speaker 1: this one of your characters. It's Jello and cool whip.
Speaker 1: I have a disgusting sweet tooth.
Speaker 4: Really, I love ambrosia salad.
Speaker 1: Oh, this is on the run. We ambrosa fruit cocktail
Speaker 1: with uh cool whip basically whoa and and sometimes marshmallows
Speaker 1: and try a coconut. Some people would do like pistachio
Speaker 1: pudding packet, like the powder from the put putting packet.
Speaker 1: Mix it in. You know, it's always in pustachios. These
Speaker 1: foods are giving. You've got me there, they're giving Grandma.
Speaker 4: I love Grandma.
Speaker 1: Shout out to grandma. Yeah, well look, yeah, we've figured
Speaker 1: it out so pretty much.
Speaker 4: Co Where can people buy tickets to your play? Well?
Speaker 1: Oh Mary, ohmaryplay dot com for the last week. Yeah,
Speaker 1: May fifth through twelfth and May twelfth, must and must
Speaker 1: and May twelfth.
Speaker 2: To be candid, this episode will come out when it's
Speaker 2: already sold out most likely.
Speaker 4: Well, that's true, and that you don't know.
Speaker 1: Okay, that's okay, that's okay.
Speaker 4: But maybe there will be one ticket.
Speaker 1: There will be one ticket left. D m us. No,
Speaker 1: please don't know just yet.
Speaker 4: Me.
Speaker 1: I can text call. We'll figure it out. We'll figure
Speaker 1: it out. Text call, we'll figure it out. If you listen,
Speaker 1: to this podcasts. You can get it getting there for free.
Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, and that's a stradio promise call.
Speaker 1: Do you think theater is too expensive?
Speaker 4: Yes, but say that, but it's also expensive to make.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, all right, okay, well considered, I don't know
Speaker 2: how how they do it in London?
Speaker 4: Then they don't pay people.
Speaker 1: Well do they pay people in New York? They not?
Speaker 4: From what I've heard, it depends on these damn unions.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, don't get me started. The government help well,
Speaker 1: I do think Well, the government subsidize in in in
Speaker 1: more in Europe and was funded by the Trump administration.
Speaker 4: Correct are we talking about that?
Speaker 2: Because like, from what I remember, it was a government.
Speaker 1: Why is it wrong?
Speaker 2: Like it's not and you said you wanted to change
Speaker 2: it from the ins what I understand?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Like how's that?
Speaker 4: Like? Like she's willing to listen. She gave you a
Speaker 4: lot of notes on the early versions of the show.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she did. It was she has a great eye.
Speaker 1: She has a great eye. She's like she doesn't no
Speaker 1: matter what your politics are.
Speaker 4: Funny yeah, funny. People forget that about Ivanka. She's funny.
Speaker 1: She'll always she's like burg like between every scene she's
Speaker 1: like blurg and like, okay, yes.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I did notice the blurg in your play, and
Speaker 4: I thought it felt it fell out of place, but
Speaker 4: it also felt that that was a Yeah.
Speaker 2: The rest of it had a very specific tone I
Speaker 2: recognize as quintessentially cool.
Speaker 4: Then there was that big monologue that so I guess
Speaker 4: I'm an adult.
Speaker 2: Yeah, there was a sort of you kept saying, should
Speaker 2: I get bangs?
Speaker 1: That was the punch that was okay, maybe that's a premise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, I'll never forget when Abe got shot
Speaker 4: in your play and you make it make it makes sense,
Speaker 4: it makes sense.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then yeah, and then you're like, all right,
Speaker 2: well the moment's landed. Next scene starts, you go, So
Speaker 2: I guess that happened, I said, I said, okay, like
Speaker 2: some of this could have.
Speaker 4: Been very long, but it gets laughs every look the
Speaker 4: audience doesn't. Isn't wrong.
Speaker 1: Oh look, I wish it were uh much much cheaper
Speaker 1: to see theater. But I didn't understand the economics of
Speaker 1: like if a show costs something and there are only
Speaker 1: so many seats. Well, of course I didn't realize, like.
Speaker 2: No, for the issue is not yes, The issue is
Speaker 2: that none of it is subsidized by the government like
Speaker 2: in other countries. It's not that like people are evil
Speaker 2: and want to rob you blind, right, although I do.
Speaker 1: You know, this is my first ten million that I'm
Speaker 1: making from this.
Speaker 4: Right right, congrats on that, by the Yeah yeah, yeah, Well.
Speaker 1: Off Broadway is where you go to like cash cash in,
Speaker 1: Like I've worked hard, you put in the time, I've
Speaker 1: put in the time. I'm ready for that summer house.
Speaker 1: I'm ready for like like first class tickets, and like.
Speaker 4: Knowing that about yourself is like a huge part.
Speaker 1: It's a huge part of Off Broadway.
Speaker 4: Because like a lot of people like just don't even
Speaker 4: have the like they're like afraid of that success absolutely,
Speaker 4: and you're just like running towards those people go to Broadway.
Speaker 1: So sad.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel bad for them.
Speaker 1: I do too. Losers. Who's the biggest loser on Broadway? Yeah,
Speaker 1: who's the biggest loser on Probably audiences? Tim Tim Tim
Speaker 1: Tim gun is the biggest loser on broad Oh my god, yeah,
Speaker 1: like so wrong as roxy, Like just yeah, the name
Speaker 1: on everybody's design, the name on everybody's lips is gonna
Speaker 1: be rock. It's really okay this season on the runway.
Speaker 1: We're seeing Tim gun Tim, We're walking this season on
Speaker 1: the runway. We're seeing Tim Gunn walking as roxy. I'm
Speaker 1: giddy about that. I'm giddy about that's a great well.
Speaker 1: I love that.
Speaker 2: Maybe this is my oh Mary, oh Tim Tim. That
Speaker 2: would actually be sort of a good idea. Tim Gunn,
Speaker 2: you know, everyone loves him, America's most beloved sort of
Speaker 2: father figure. But then there's so much happening behind the scenes.
Speaker 1: Are we where's that phantom thread? Yeah? Exactly.
Speaker 2: You know, I have to say about Tim Gunn to
Speaker 2: be serious for a second. With all these gay guys
Speaker 2: that sort of transcended and became, you know, almost like
Speaker 2: symbols from Middle America, he really has it, more so
Speaker 2: than any of the queer eye guys. More like, I
Speaker 2: really do have a deep respect for Tim Gunn.
Speaker 1: Do you do You not? No? I think you're right.
Speaker 1: You like, there's something actually very dignified about him.
Speaker 4: Well, he has a he knows when to pull away, yes.
Speaker 1: And he's also you can tell he's actually he knows
Speaker 1: when to pull.
Speaker 4: Out, which is before you he.
Speaker 1: Doesn't you heard it here first. This worries me.
Speaker 4: After he comes.
Speaker 1: This is my impression of Tim Gun after he comes
Speaker 1: this worries more your grandma. Yeah. This season on the Runway,
Speaker 1: pulling Out, we're gonna see pulling Out. We're going to
Speaker 1: see Tim Gun is a Roxy. We're going to see
Speaker 1: Tim Gunhilton Honors.
Speaker 2: Okay, Oh, Mary is a huge no no, this is
Speaker 2: a no no no, it's not. It's not it's not
Speaker 2: barely a one person show, oh Mary. Okay, Tom Broadway
Speaker 2: for twenty five years. At this point, you're long, you know,
Speaker 2: you're you're living in Malibu whatever. If they've started stunt
Speaker 2: casting it like Roxy, who is your ideal like like
Speaker 2: reality star, trashy star stunt cast for I don't watch,
Speaker 2: but but you know it can be back.
Speaker 1: I understand it can be like.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, okay, okay. Rachel Ray, that was the first
Speaker 4: thing that came to mind.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't she perfect like a rasping boys Abram, you know, wow,
Speaker 1: Rachel Ray, that would be so amazing. She would do
Speaker 1: it in those curls. Yeah. Did you see her episode
Speaker 1: of the Curse. Yeah, the Curse, she's literally she plays
Speaker 1: herself in a very no no before Yeah, no, I
Speaker 1: think it is. This season on the Runway, we're seeing
Speaker 1: Rachel Ray and Rachel Ray as herself on the HBO's
Speaker 1: The Curse Showtime. Showtime, Yeah, Showtime.
Speaker 4: Sorry, excuse me, sorry, It's okay, it's Showtime back.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know if any of them
Speaker 1: about its Showtime back? Yeah, are any of them? I'm
Speaker 1: talking to the exacts right, Oh? Sorry, I think Showtime's
Speaker 1: definitely back. I would love to work with them. Oh,
Speaker 1: we would love to work with Showtime of course. However,
Speaker 1: only if they're back. Only if they're back. I want
Speaker 1: we go into pitch. We're like, I want you to
Speaker 1: prove that you're back before you hear this pitch. Are
Speaker 1: you guys back?
Speaker 2: Because I'm not saying the numbers don't really speak for themselves.
Speaker 1: Tim Gunn and Rachel Ray Green like that should have
Speaker 1: been what it was. It should have been, Tim Gunn
Speaker 1: and Rachel you actually are so right in the sense
Speaker 1: that it should have been a loud like party girl,
Speaker 1: loud party girl, raspy voice, and then like an a
Speaker 1: guy with trauma. Yeah, like Tim Gunn is who the
Speaker 1: character of Will is? You know what I mean?
Speaker 4: But then you know NBC got involved and said, well,
Speaker 4: let's not make a two let's make him a lawyer. Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 4: designer Rachel Ray.
Speaker 1: Now, Rachel, what exactly is this? Well, Tim, it's a
Speaker 1: jealous sald I mean the pilot writes a yeah, last,
Speaker 1: what do you mean extra virgin? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Tim is like, honey, I'm an extra virgin. Wait no,
Speaker 2: and I'm becoming Samantha.
Speaker 1: Should we do our final segment? Wait? Call any last
Speaker 1: thoughts on hotels or baby carrots salad bar I just
Speaker 1: I really appreciate you filling out why hotels are straight.
Speaker 1: I appreciate it because.
Speaker 4: I came in with an idea and I didn't know.
Speaker 1: I just didn't hold water. Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's so hard.
Speaker 1: It's really hard, and we put our guests through hell,
Speaker 1: but we do it for you. Thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: So you can promote that last week of Oh Mary
Speaker 4: of Oh Mary ohmaryplay dot com.
Speaker 1: I just checked zero tickets for that week. Zero. Well,
Speaker 1: there's student rush or not student rush, just rush rush.
Speaker 4: We took a student out because anyone can rush.
Speaker 1: Any anyone can rush, not just students, not just This
Speaker 1: is what I tell people all the time.
Speaker 4: It's like you never stop learning and you never stop rushing.
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, exactly we're always on our phones, so true, Rachel. Okay,
Speaker 1: well will you introduce it.
Speaker 2: Our final segment is called Shoutouts, and in this segment
Speaker 2: we pay homage to the classic straight tradition of the
Speaker 2: radio shout out. Think Z one hundred. You're shouting out
Speaker 2: to your squad back home, thank TRL and you know
Speaker 2: it's in the great tradition of this podcast we think
Speaker 2: of them on the spot. So I'm trying to think
Speaker 2: of mine now I have one.
Speaker 4: Okay, oh, okay, what's up freak losers and perverts around
Speaker 4: the globe? I want to give a huge shut up
Speaker 4: to Hotel TV. I love the lack of choice and
Speaker 4: a Hotel TV offers me. I think there's too much
Speaker 4: choice in the.
Speaker 1: World, and sometimes you just want something to be like
Speaker 1: watch this because you have to you.
Speaker 4: That's talk about the only way I'll find something randomly
Speaker 4: and without having it perfectly curated to my likes and wants.
Speaker 4: Last night, I, for the first time in my entire life,
Speaker 4: watched an episode.
Speaker 1: Of King of Queens.
Speaker 4: I would never seek the show out, no matter how
Speaker 4: much Robbie Hoffman says it's good.
Speaker 1: I don't care.
Speaker 4: And I watched one episode and I said, yeah, I mean,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna watch more, but I enjoyed this twenty minutes.
Speaker 4: And sometimes that's all you need when you are traveling.
Speaker 1: So Hotel TV.
Speaker 4: You make me feel like it's the nine these You
Speaker 4: make me feel like I'm being tied down and forced
Speaker 4: to watch something I don't necessarily want to, and you
Speaker 4: make me feel free through that restriction.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. How was King of Queen's really good? Really?
Speaker 4: Well?
Speaker 1: It was fine, right, I mean it was like Lea
Speaker 1: REMONI I guess right, well, yeah, sort of the best
Speaker 1: you can hope for. I was friends with. I was
Speaker 1: pretty good. Yes, she is, she is, but you're close.
Speaker 1: Oh you didn't know that.
Speaker 2: They're like like, oh yeah, I know, they're like the thing.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like them.
Speaker 4: Isn't there one more that's like in the group?
Speaker 1: Who is it? Yes? But I don't remember. I was good.
Speaker 4: Say it's like Michelle, Michelle, Yes?
Speaker 1: Is that true? Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, But it's like how Madonna and Debbie
Speaker 2: Mays are are really close friends meaning no meaning no no,
Speaker 2: no no meaning yeah they're huge lesbian.
Speaker 1: Oh no, they're not saphic saffic in it. So they
Speaker 1: are aren't.
Speaker 2: They're not saffic. No, she has a hot Italian husband,
Speaker 2: Debbie does. And Madonna. You know, she's working through.
Speaker 4: A lot of issues, but she's doing great on and
Speaker 4: we support her, and.
Speaker 1: We support her. I would die supporting her. Okay, y'all yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't.
Speaker 2: Okay, Okay, I'm gonna do mine. I've actually already mentioned
Speaker 2: this on a Patroon episode. But you know what this,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna unpay Wallet for this episode exclusively. What's up
Speaker 2: frequent travelers, any Delta sky Mild members, Hilton Rewards. You're
Speaker 2: gonna want to hear this. If you're ever on Adelta flight,
Speaker 2: I have the plane movie for you. It's called She
Speaker 2: Came to Me, and it is starring Marissa to May
Speaker 2: as a tug boat captain with a sex addiction. I repeat,
Speaker 2: a tug boat captain with a sex addiction. You're wondering,
Speaker 2: is that like a comedic bit?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Is it ironic?
Speaker 2: Nope, tug boat captain. I repeat, tugboat captain with a
Speaker 2: sex addiction. And if you think it stops there, you
Speaker 2: better believe. It also stars Anne Hathaway as a therapist
Speaker 2: who wants to be a nun, and one of her
Speaker 2: patients is Chris Gethered. Now this movie came out, I
Speaker 2: would say last year. Not a single soul has talked
Speaker 2: about it. Written and directed by Rebeca Miller, Arthur Miller's daughter.
Speaker 2: I am telling you, get on a plane, now, book
Speaker 2: a flight, impress play on.
Speaker 1: She came to me.
Speaker 2: The message of the film is love wins. And by
Speaker 2: the end I was moved. Shout out everyone involved.
Speaker 1: Wow they only let you watch it on a plane.
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't. I haven't seen it available anywhere else.
Speaker 2: I think the Millerists Arthur Miller estate has a special
Speaker 2: contract with the Delta Airlines where his daughter makes movies
Speaker 2: for the Delta plus a platform.
Speaker 1: Actually wow, yeah, well that's huge. Yes, nothing I said
Speaker 1: is a line. I'll watch it on the Delta flight
Speaker 1: back to Alert.
Speaker 2: I think it's crazy that that movie exists, as I
Speaker 2: just describe it, and like it hasn't become like a meme.
Speaker 1: I mean, but there's so much. It's actually so sad
Speaker 1: because you know that like that's.
Speaker 4: What they were almost hoping for.
Speaker 1: Yeah, or maybe they weren't. No, I don't think they were. Yeah,
Speaker 1: when they should have, because then it would have gotten
Speaker 1: been bigger you know, yes, they needed a gay guy.
Speaker 1: They needed a concierge. Oh is he a concierge, baby boy? Gay,
Speaker 1: baby boy. Yeah. He recommended a few restaurants to me.
Speaker 4: Let's just say, let's just say he got us a reservation.
Speaker 1: So he recommended the Fennel Cell. Okay, I think, okay,
Speaker 1: what's up, moms and dads. It's your girl here who
Speaker 1: sets her alarm clock for six am? And I'm would
Speaker 1: like to shout out Dove chocolate. Dove chocolate a little treat.
Speaker 1: It's it's a little more expensive then you're gonna but
Speaker 1: then you're hershey Bar. But when you want to treat yourself,
Speaker 1: go for Dove chocolate.
Speaker 4: Wow.
Speaker 1: Wow?
Speaker 2: Is that the one that has little inspirational like little quotes?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Do you feel it helps you in your day
Speaker 1: to day life.
Speaker 4: To be well?
Speaker 1: When I was a kid, that was one of those
Speaker 1: things that I thought was fancy when I was like,
Speaker 1: because it's not, because it's not Hershey's. And also the
Speaker 1: commercials worked so well. The commercials were very like the
Speaker 1: woman like rewarding herself, like.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, yeah, no, that makes sense. The way
Speaker 4: that women eat chocolate and media is it's I feel.
Speaker 1: Like I'm missing out.
Speaker 2: It's done harm for generations. Yeah yeah, it's literally why
Speaker 2: we will never have a woman president.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like.
Speaker 4: She could only come. She has a little cube of
Speaker 4: chocolate in her mouth. And it's just because this.
Speaker 1: Season on the Runway a woman with a little cube
Speaker 1: of chocolate, And it's just because straight men want to
Speaker 1: see women come totally, and they're just like, what if
Speaker 1: the chocolate did it for her? Because she likes to
Speaker 1: take so much. Yeah, she's such a bitch all day
Speaker 1: and then she puts that little square chocolate in her
Speaker 1: mouth and she just fucking calmbs like, yeah, how about that.
Speaker 2: I feel like it's almost like the opposite where it's
Speaker 2: women being like, well, he's not gonna make me come,
Speaker 2: so I need something to make me.
Speaker 4: Yeah. So is it a female empowerment or disempowerment? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Is this question more? When we return?
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, and we'll see you next time, see
Speaker 4: you next time after the break that could be many years.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, thanks for doing the pod. Please, thank
Speaker 1: you for promoting the last week of Oh Mary playing.
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