Speaker 1: Hey, there are folks in this episode. We have no
Speaker 1: idea what we're about to say because we have no
Speaker 1: idea what you are about to ask. And with that,
Speaker 1: welcome to this episode of Amy and TJ. Road. It's
Speaker 1: been a while. It was one of our favorite things
Speaker 1: early on, but we haven't done it again.
Speaker 2: Take questions, that's right, and so we had our producers
Speaker 2: reach out on social media to ask you all what
Speaker 2: you wanted to know from us. We have zero clue
Speaker 2: what the questions are, but we're excited to do our
Speaker 2: best to answer that.
Speaker 1: Were there any rules there that count? I don't think
Speaker 1: we said heyd put this, don't do that. We kind
Speaker 1: of left it all in our producer's hands.
Speaker 2: That's correct. We actually gave them no stipulation so they
Speaker 2: can and well they is. Emma, who is sitting right
Speaker 2: across from us, has the list of questions and she
Speaker 2: is she's not going to be on the hot seat.
Speaker 2: She's the most nervous of the three of us right now,
Speaker 2: which is so funny.
Speaker 1: We all we prepare, We do a lot of reading,
Speaker 1: research and getting in questions. I'm so too for this episode.
Speaker 1: I'm not nervous about what's going to be at we
Speaker 1: This is one we don't have to prepare for. We
Speaker 1: know the answers, don't we. Baby.
Speaker 2: We tell this to people all the time that we interview.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna ask you a trick question. Anything we
Speaker 2: ask you, you are going to know because it's going
Speaker 2: to be about you. So the same rules apply right
Speaker 2: back at us. And I'm totally chill.
Speaker 1: Now now that we set it up that way, she's
Speaker 1: gonna hit us or something we don't know at the top.
Speaker 2: And we're like, wait, what now, we weren't expecting that. Huh.
Speaker 1: So all right, Emma said you all. If you anybody
Speaker 1: who listen to our podcast, you know the name Emma.
Speaker 1: She hangs out with us in here all the time
Speaker 1: and helps us. She's one of our superstar producers. But
Speaker 1: she's got the questions today. So Emma, you take it away,
Speaker 1: kind ma'am. Let's start all right.
Speaker 3: First question, Rosie asks if your life were a movie,
Speaker 3: what scene would you watch over and over again.
Speaker 2: Oh that's a really good question.
Speaker 1: Damn, I got my answer.
Speaker 2: Okay, go ahead, so I can think of mine.
Speaker 1: Oh it's not a positive. Necessarily, there was a fight
Speaker 1: we were in Okay, there was a fight we were in.
Speaker 1: You were and really upset and you stormed out and
Speaker 1: then you came back. You actually left, You slammed the door,
Speaker 1: left where we were, Uh yes, calling mister Papa there.
Speaker 1: But we got into a fight. That was I believe
Speaker 1: a turning point for our relationship because we learned what
Speaker 1: we were willing to sacrifice, what we were willing to do,
Speaker 1: and we learned that we were not willing to let
Speaker 1: this go and to fight for this relationship. That is
Speaker 1: a scene. It would be, Oh, it would. It would
Speaker 1: be played over and over. It was like notebook equivalent
Speaker 1: type of a scene. Okay, it was that kind of intense.
Speaker 2: That's the one I would play with there, I I
Speaker 2: can totally get that. And I think for me, the
Speaker 2: one I would play over and over again was for me,
Speaker 2: the night that I knew that we were going to
Speaker 2: be okay and that we were going to make it,
Speaker 2: because neither one of us were going to be okay
Speaker 2: if our kids weren't. And it was right after New
Speaker 2: Year's we had we called it fight night, and it
Speaker 2: was your idea and I don't even know who was fighting,
Speaker 2: but we got the package on whatever pay per view
Speaker 2: and Sabine, Ava, Annalise and some friends all gathered in
Speaker 2: that room and you cooked and we all watched and
Speaker 2: everybody it felt safe, It felt it felt joyful for
Speaker 2: the first time in a long time, and I knew
Speaker 2: we have just built you know, We've worked really hard,
Speaker 2: We've taken our time, and now we're going to be
Speaker 2: able to build on this. And I saw our life together.
Speaker 1: How long ago was it the most recent?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Oh for me.
Speaker 2: For me, that was in January of twenty twenty four.
Speaker 2: You know, I think for me when that night happened
Speaker 2: and I saw how beautiful and natural it felt. It
Speaker 2: wasn't perfect, but it was a place to start from
Speaker 2: where I felt like I could see us, you know,
Speaker 2: with the grandkids, and I could see us in the
Speaker 2: backyard grilling and all of our girls are there together,
Speaker 2: and I felt that joy and I could rewatch that
Speaker 2: night because that was where things for me I felt.
Speaker 2: I felt this new confidence that we were going to
Speaker 2: get through all of this stuff that had been so
Speaker 2: hard for us and for our daughters, that we were
Speaker 2: gonna we were gonna be able to build something.
Speaker 1: I was trying to remember the fight night that I
Speaker 1: think with Deontay Wilde. It was like a dual car.
Speaker 1: It started earlier because it was over Okay, and we
Speaker 1: had everybody. That was a long, fun, crazy day. The
Speaker 1: girls and friends were in and it just felt like
Speaker 1: it was a family event and a family night. So
Speaker 1: I gave you that one, yes, Emma. Emma.
Speaker 3: Jake asked what skill or talent do you wish you had?
Speaker 2: Oh, I wish that I could sing. I wish I
Speaker 2: could sing like a Dina Menzel. I wish I could
Speaker 2: be Broadway caliber vocal like just like I've always loved singing,
Speaker 2: I loved I love Broadway musicals, but I've never had
Speaker 2: the talent to ever back up being able to even
Speaker 2: consider doing that for a living. So that would for
Speaker 2: sure be what I would want to do.
Speaker 1: It goes different way, It depends on what Okay. At
Speaker 1: this stage, I will say because like earlier points of
Speaker 1: my life, when I was younger, I wish I was
Speaker 1: a little bit taller. I wish it was a ball though, right,
Speaker 1: I mean I wish I was I had that skill set.
Speaker 1: The older I get out what I am. I wish
Speaker 1: I could play the piano. I really wish I could
Speaker 1: play the piano.
Speaker 2: We could go on the road if I could sing
Speaker 2: and you could play the piano.
Speaker 1: Wow, that's gonna be a windy road some backstreets there.
Speaker 2: Both can do it like a little bit. But because
Speaker 2: I've heard you play the piano and you're you're I.
Speaker 1: Play one thing, but I literally play one.
Speaker 2: Thing really sexy when you play piano.
Speaker 1: Okay, it's it is the only thing I played just
Speaker 1: because I love it. It's from a movie. In one scene,
Speaker 1: I play a riff of Purple Rain by Prince that's
Speaker 1: hot from his from the Purple Rain move. You remember
Speaker 1: he went through all his dad stuff. I have his
Speaker 1: dad shot himself. He's sitting at the piano and he
Speaker 1: sits down and he plays this little beautiful riff of
Speaker 1: Purple Rain. It might be one of the most beautiful
Speaker 1: short pieces of music I've ever heard. And I learned
Speaker 1: to play that, and that's the only thing I can
Speaker 1: play that's sexy.
Speaker 2: Yeah, very much.
Speaker 1: So get out of here so I can play you
Speaker 1: a tune. Well, I'll get back to you, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna get back to you on that. You made a
Speaker 1: good you made me think of something. I'll get back
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 3: But yes, next question, all right, Greta asks, are either
Speaker 3: of you jealous?
Speaker 2: Follow up?
Speaker 3: Who is more jealous?
Speaker 1: Jealous? Like of each other? Or what do you think
Speaker 1: you mean?
Speaker 2: Or of just other people? Probably just jealousy creeping into
Speaker 2: our relationship. I will say this, we have not been
Speaker 2: a part very often for me to get jealous, I
Speaker 2: think anytime. That is really a true statement.
Speaker 1: No, I think about me going out with the boys.
Speaker 2: So you went out with the boys the other night,
Speaker 2: and I remember I did ask like who are you with?
Speaker 2: And then you weren't answering who you were with, and
Speaker 2: I did feel a flicker of jealousy, like are there
Speaker 2: girls there? Well, I just didn't know. I was like,
Speaker 2: you said you were hanging out with the boys. I
Speaker 2: was like, but are there girls there? And why isn't
Speaker 2: he telling me who's with them? And if there are
Speaker 2: girls there, why am I not there? And so I
Speaker 2: did feel a little flicker of jeb.
Speaker 1: You should never feel that way. No, no, no, no no
Speaker 1: no no, I am sorry. So you can finish that,
Speaker 1: but I don't want you to know.
Speaker 2: Well, and so, but we have not really well, first
Speaker 2: of all, I think we just we trust in our
Speaker 2: relationship and we trust each other. That's that's it. But
Speaker 2: I it was a small little flicker. But I we
Speaker 2: just aren't a part for that to have ever actually
Speaker 2: been a thing that we've had to deal with.
Speaker 1: So then that means maybe you would be maybe jealous.
Speaker 1: You just haven't been challenged in that way.
Speaker 2: I will say that I have always considered myself to
Speaker 2: not be a jealous person, to trust in what I
Speaker 2: uniquely bring to a relationship, and also trust that you specifically,
Speaker 2: I think you can't just say that in general has
Speaker 2: to be the person you're with. I think I can
Speaker 2: be and not be a jealous person. I could be
Speaker 2: put in a situation word than I would maybe feel jealous.
Speaker 2: But if you're with the right person, I don't. I
Speaker 2: hope that you that you wouldn't feel that way.
Speaker 1: You don't, you don't have any I am so sorry
Speaker 1: about the other night because you asked to follow up
Speaker 1: and I'm like, what is she talking about? You said
Speaker 1: I was being KOI yeah, I'm like, what are you
Speaker 1: talking about? I'm just with Charles and seb and yeah,
Speaker 1: and we did go to a party. There were right,
Speaker 1: well tons of women around, but there weren't they weren't with.
Speaker 2: Us, right right, fair, Have you ever felt jealous?
Speaker 1: You know what? I have a it's probably ego, Like
Speaker 1: I have too much of an ego to get jealous
Speaker 1: about somebody else, Like I won't allow myself to do it.
Speaker 1: That's I think that's ego. That makes sense. It's stupid,
Speaker 1: like I am above that, and I will I'm too that.
Speaker 1: It's sounds kind of weird in that way, but I
Speaker 1: just I just trust and I don't worry. I get
Speaker 1: jealous that when she said it, one of the first
Speaker 1: things came to my mind where that sometimes this is
Speaker 1: not what they probably meant. I get jealous of you.
Speaker 1: I get jealous of you, you and your some of
Speaker 1: your life experience putting you in a mindset that you
Speaker 1: don't have to worry about some of the same shit
Speaker 1: I worry about. Yeah, And so I'm like, Wow, she
Speaker 1: doesn't have to She not even doesn't even care that.
Speaker 1: She just blew right past that cop, Like she doesn't
Speaker 1: even care that this like those little experiences in life
Speaker 1: where I am having to be on edge or where
Speaker 1: I am having to feel like I gotta try a
Speaker 1: little harder or I have to put a little more
Speaker 1: effort in. Is all this thing to Worr. Wow, she
Speaker 1: doesn't have to worry about that. So I say, I'm
Speaker 1: jealous of you, but I'm jealous of a lot of
Speaker 1: people in that regard, in that experience that I see
Speaker 1: differently because I'm next to you all the time. That's
Speaker 1: the first thing that came to moment that makes sense.
Speaker 3: All right, Next question, who is a person you would
Speaker 3: switch places with for a day?
Speaker 2: And why?
Speaker 1: All right, man, believe I'm about staff.
Speaker 2: Okay, go for it.
Speaker 1: Damn man, Oh you know what? Fuck it? I used
Speaker 1: to for a long time with say I would.
Speaker 2: I love that. This is hard for you.
Speaker 1: Well, it's hard because of some recent headlines. And Justin Timberlake,
Speaker 1: really Justin Timberlake is a wildly talented He's still a
Speaker 1: young guy, but he's a family guy. He's always seemed
Speaker 1: like he's having fun. He's had this good energy, singing
Speaker 1: and dance, all these he can act, but he was
Speaker 1: someone I always just looked from afar. I'm like, wow,
Speaker 1: he's not a good time. That looks fun. I like
Speaker 1: that and I would love to have that talent that
Speaker 1: he has, but he always with someone I looked at.
Speaker 1: The first thing came to mind, But obviously some of
Speaker 1: the reason headlines. That's why I hesitated it.
Speaker 2: It can all still be true, right, I mean, yes,
Speaker 2: I hear you. I would I would say I would
Speaker 2: love to trade places. I brought this person up a lot,
Speaker 2: but I've always looked up to her, and so I'd
Speaker 2: love to live a day in her life, especially at
Speaker 2: the age she's at, with the experience she's lived. Miss Goldiehan,
Speaker 2: I us think she is somebody who embraces life, and
Speaker 2: she doesn't like she dances like nobody's watching. She laughs
Speaker 2: with this just joyful energy. She's funny, she has a
Speaker 2: beautiful family, and it's not conventional, and I just I
Speaker 2: would love to spend a day in her life. I've
Speaker 2: always been in offer.
Speaker 1: You know, the crazy thing you said, you want a
Speaker 1: day in her life, But it almost sounds like you
Speaker 1: want to live your life the way she has lived hers,
Speaker 1: which I don't think you're necessarily that far off from
Speaker 1: its Sorry, is that kind of sounds I know you admire,
Speaker 1: but so much of what she does are the things
Speaker 1: I think you try to do and are doing a
Speaker 1: great degree.
Speaker 2: So thank you. And I think you have moves like
Speaker 2: JT None dance.
Speaker 1: Before Okay, I'm telling myself a little short. Maybe he's
Speaker 1: got good moves, but I can.
Speaker 2: He can dance.
Speaker 1: I'm I like dancing.
Speaker 3: Okay, Sam asks, are there any topics you will never
Speaker 3: talk about on your podcast?
Speaker 2: Yes, the answer is yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1: I mean, that's a bunch of stuff. Probably. I mean,
Speaker 1: I won't don't want to get outlandish, but there's some
Speaker 1: things that we talk about us and what's going on
Speaker 1: at home to a certain degree, but I think there
Speaker 1: are some details and some intimate things. I think you
Speaker 1: can go too far and discussing for anybody else, that's fine,
Speaker 1: But as far as other topics, we don't want to.
Speaker 1: We'll talk to a politician, but we are not going
Speaker 1: to give our opinion about politics, but we're trying to.
Speaker 1: I think other than that, and there won't talk about.
Speaker 2: There are certain I think privacy issues for other people
Speaker 2: who are in our lives. We would never be disrespectful
Speaker 2: of anyone else's privacy. So yeah, there are just certain
Speaker 2: people who we are close to or who we were
Speaker 2: once close to, who we will not discuss for a
Speaker 2: myriad of reasons. But I just think a lot most
Speaker 2: of it is respect.
Speaker 3: Absolutely all right. Next question is in lieu of what
Speaker 3: you are training for. But Francis, ah, what is your
Speaker 3: goal marathon time?
Speaker 2: Ha ha ha. I mean I've always had a goal
Speaker 2: to have a sub four and I have yet to
Speaker 2: achieve it. And it was funny as I was struggling
Speaker 2: on my run the other day, I thought to myself,
Speaker 2: it's okay if you don't, and I think that's where
Speaker 2: I am right now. Yes, I would love to hit
Speaker 2: a three fifty nine, but if I never do better
Speaker 2: than four fourteen, I am so okay with that. So
Speaker 2: I just it's aspirational, but it's not something that I
Speaker 2: at this stage of my life, am going to push
Speaker 2: myself past comfort, like extreme discomfort, because running a marathon
Speaker 2: is not comfortable. But I don't want to push myself
Speaker 2: to the point where I feel like somehow I failed
Speaker 2: or I fell short if I don't get a certain time.
Speaker 2: I think when I was younger, if I had started
Speaker 2: running marathons earlier, I would have been a lot more
Speaker 2: competitive with myself, and now I'm more about giving myself
Speaker 2: a break.
Speaker 1: My goal is if I'm running one with Robes, is
Speaker 1: to always finish one second after she does, and that
Speaker 1: really is we run, we do all this training together,
Speaker 1: we're going to run the marathon together. So I go
Speaker 1: with whatever pace that is always so Chicago, I want
Speaker 1: my time to be one second after hers and cross
Speaker 1: right next to and right behind her, and that's it.
Speaker 2: How about New York?
Speaker 1: How about New York? You know what? Should I say
Speaker 1: it out loud? Three forty five? How about that nice
Speaker 1: three forty five marathon?
Speaker 2: Cool?
Speaker 1: So I should probably not say that out loud.
Speaker 2: No runner ever wants to say what their what their
Speaker 2: goal time is. They just don't. But we all kind
Speaker 2: of have one in our.
Speaker 1: I certainly a sub for But if I could get
Speaker 1: closer to three forty five, I would go crazy.
Speaker 2: That's awesome.
Speaker 3: Well you can take that as a form of manifestation,
Speaker 3: saying it out loud. It is the way you're going
Speaker 3: to see it. See across the line and see that number.
Speaker 1: Look at him. She's been listening to some of the
Speaker 1: wisdom of our guests.
Speaker 3: So Meliss asks, what is the story behind Amy's promised necklace?
Speaker 1: Melissa asked that question? Is that right, Melissa? A man?
Speaker 1: Your business?
Speaker 2: No? No?
Speaker 1: When this is us? For? When is that where they
Speaker 1: say what you won't talk about? At what points do
Speaker 1: some very intimate things, details nuggets such as that become
Speaker 1: things we are comfortable talking about in a public space.
Speaker 1: I don't know, do you think that time is now
Speaker 1: on that particular thing, given there's.
Speaker 2: History there, Yes, I would leave that to you.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, we're in this together or haven't you heard?
Speaker 1: We're in a relationship.
Speaker 2: We're in a relationship, so this is a partnership. I
Speaker 2: think we've chosen up until now not to go into
Speaker 2: the details, and so when we want to, we will,
Speaker 2: and we might one day, but now is not the time.
Speaker 1: So apologies to Melissa there on that question. That is
Speaker 1: one of those. And again maybe when we talk about
Speaker 1: like ah I saw it was. But for the time being,
Speaker 1: there are a few things that are incredibly sacred between
Speaker 1: me and Robes that I don't think we will let
Speaker 1: anybody in on. Maybe ever, and right now the necklace
Speaker 1: might be one of them.
Speaker 3: Next question, Alta asks why did Amy spend a night
Speaker 3: in prison? Storytime Police.
Speaker 2: I had a feeling this would come off at some point.
Speaker 1: We discussed this after it came up briefly when we
Speaker 1: were talking to Tiffany Hattish, we discussed that, Oh, I
Speaker 1: thought you had told that story before, and we wondered
Speaker 1: if we should later, if we just do you let
Speaker 1: it go? But here you are and this is your call, Robes,
Speaker 1: and again we can edit this out later.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's fine. I mean, I'll tell it and I'll
Speaker 2: decide if we want to er it. How about that.
Speaker 2: I'll tell it succinctly. I was a few months away
Speaker 2: from being twenty one.
Speaker 1: I'm going to give commentary throughout, so okay, because I've
Speaker 1: hear this story about it.
Speaker 2: So there's a couple of things. So I was twenty
Speaker 2: years old summer right before my junior year in college,
Speaker 2: and twenty February, so it was it was like six
Speaker 2: months before my birthday. It was like August, and then
Speaker 2: I was going to be twenty one in February. And
Speaker 2: important detail, people, yes, very important. And I had not
Speaker 2: gotten a car. I was driving the bus to and
Speaker 2: from work. And so I had gotten a job, and
Speaker 2: my parents and I negotiated that I was going to
Speaker 2: finally get my first car and to go back and
Speaker 2: forth to my job in Athens, Georgia. And my dad
Speaker 2: insisted that I get a stick shift because he wanted
Speaker 2: me to learn how to drive a stick no matter
Speaker 2: where I was in the world. I'd always be able
Speaker 2: to drive somewhere, and so it was my second night,
Speaker 2: I think my second night I had the car. I
Speaker 2: didn't drive my stick shift very well, but I was
Speaker 2: so excited to drive this car that I told my girlfriends,
Speaker 2: I'll drive to the Lambdacai party. So it was, I
Speaker 2: think a Saturday night, and I I had had I believe,
Speaker 2: two three beers early in the night. Now it's like
Speaker 2: two o'clock in the morning. I had stopped drinking for
Speaker 2: several hours, and all of my friends decided that they
Speaker 2: had found someone that was mister right now. I did
Speaker 2: not partake in that. I think I believe I was
Speaker 2: dating someone at the time. So I decided to drive
Speaker 2: home by myself in my stick shift car at two am.
Speaker 2: It was about less than a mile, but as you
Speaker 2: can might imagine, it might have looked like I was intoxicated.
Speaker 2: I got pulled over it because I was driving a
Speaker 2: stick shift for the second day of my life and
Speaker 2: it was jerky and wait a minute, absolutely true, and
Speaker 2: so I was driving. It was so dumb of me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna drive a car.
Speaker 1: You never told me this story. I didn't You're telling
Speaker 1: me that you got pulled over because you were a
Speaker 1: shaky stick shift driver.
Speaker 2: Correct time correct. I got pulled over in the parking
Speaker 2: lot of my apartment could look like correct too, So
Speaker 2: I had a field sobriety test. They called in a breathalyzer.
Speaker 2: I blew a zero point zero. But here in lies
Speaker 2: the rub I told the police officer that I was
Speaker 2: twenty one, so I did not tell the truth. I
Speaker 2: told him I didn't have my driver's license on me
Speaker 2: because the driver's license I had was the one that
Speaker 2: my well, I won't say who helped me change the
Speaker 2: seventy three to a seventy to make it look like
Speaker 2: I That was my version of a fake ID, and
Speaker 2: I didn't want him. I obviously didn't want him see
Speaker 2: the fake ID. So he said he would let me
Speaker 2: go if I could prove that I lived in the
Speaker 2: apartment complex. So I opened up my wallet to show
Speaker 2: him my apartment and he saw the ID. He goes,
Speaker 2: there's your driver's license. I was like, oh, wow, look
Speaker 2: at that, and so I handed it to him because
Speaker 2: I had to. And he looked at it and he
Speaker 2: obviously knew, and he said, I'm gonna take this with me.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, you do that, Thanks bye, and I
Speaker 2: went on my way. Two weeks later, I was going
Speaker 2: to a dental appointment at my parents' house in Gwennett County, Georgia,
Speaker 2: and I came back and there was a sheriff's deputy
Speaker 2: in my driveway waiting for me. And bottom line, the
Speaker 2: cop two weeks later, I think they didn't have enough
Speaker 2: arrest you know, they had these quotas, these things at
Speaker 2: the end of the month they have to fill. And
Speaker 2: they went back and looked at all the police reports
Speaker 2: and thought, ah, how we can arrest her for tampering
Speaker 2: a government id and minor in possession because I admitted
Speaker 2: to the police officer that I had had two beers
Speaker 2: earlier in the night, so anyway I had to. They
Speaker 2: actually put me in jail in Gwinnet County and then
Speaker 2: Athens Clark County to prove that they had a quota issue,
Speaker 2: decided to extradite me, so I had to stay in
Speaker 2: prison in Gwinnett County for hours. Then an officer from
Speaker 2: Athens Clark County came took my shoelaces. I got handcuffed
Speaker 2: and shackled put into the back of a police car.
Speaker 2: And then put into another holding cell, and so I
Speaker 2: spent nine hours behind bars before my mom was able
Speaker 2: to actually bail me out. I got credit for time served.
Speaker 2: Upon sentencing, I pleaded nolo. I don't have her. I
Speaker 2: don't have a conviction, but I do have an arrest record.
Speaker 2: There's the long story and a very important lesson learned.
Speaker 1: It's a really long story.
Speaker 2: Sorry anyway, Wow, I was extradited, credit for time served
Speaker 2: and two prison cells. Oh not prison jail cells.
Speaker 1: You know what. There was a lot of issues I
Speaker 1: took with that story because you took some liberties that
Speaker 1: you've never taken before. Really, it's fine.
Speaker 2: My parents come back at all?
Speaker 1: Up, Well they aren't. They aren't here, are they?
Speaker 2: But we can call them? You want to do that now, Okay,
Speaker 2: I don't need a lifeline.
Speaker 3: Ben asks, what does your family think about the podcast?
Speaker 3: Are they, especially your daughters listening?
Speaker 1: Mine isn't no family. I just not how my family rolls. Robes.
Speaker 1: You you hear from somebody every single episode we put up,
Speaker 1: and I don't hear anything unless I ask. So they're just, uh,
Speaker 1: they're just different. And I guess my folks are used
Speaker 1: to a little old school. They used to just hidden
Speaker 1: a button on the remote and turn on the TV
Speaker 1: and there he is. Now that takes a little more
Speaker 1: work to maybe pick up the phone and find this
Speaker 1: and that that.
Speaker 2: But not my you're dud said he was listening to
Speaker 2: the podcast. He was absolutely into it. They listened, I'm
Speaker 2: sure to every episode.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but they never tell me they do. We were
Speaker 1: talking to him and it came up randomly on the
Speaker 1: phone or something that because I was surprised. I was like,
Speaker 1: I didn't even know you listened.
Speaker 2: But they are huge supporters and they listen. My parents
Speaker 2: and my oh my mom is one of nine, my
Speaker 2: dad's one of six, so I get, as TJ pointed out,
Speaker 2: a text from an aunt or a cousin or a
Speaker 2: family member almost after every podcast, and I really appreciate it.
Speaker 2: And my daughters listen. I don't think they listen to
Speaker 2: every episode, but they they listen, and they did I
Speaker 2: think early on all the time, but now it's like, yeah, okay,
Speaker 2: three a week is a lot to keep up with.
Speaker 2: So but they they listen if I tell them, hey,
Speaker 2: you should really really listen to this episode. But yeah,
Speaker 2: we have support.
Speaker 3: What episodes have you told them to listen.
Speaker 2: To well, oh, like with Ava, if it's something like,
Speaker 2: you know an artist coming up, Like I told her
Speaker 2: to listen to Rachel Platten because there's a person who
Speaker 2: she might want to learn from in terms of how
Speaker 2: she made it into the music business, how she made
Speaker 2: it and had to scrap and fight and build her
Speaker 2: way up into the industry. So I've just told her
Speaker 2: a couple of times, like, Hey, I think you could
Speaker 2: get some nuggets from this person. You should listen to
Speaker 2: this podcast. I love that awesome.
Speaker 3: Michelle asks what has been the biggest challenge.
Speaker 2: About the podcast.
Speaker 1: Workflow for us? We know how to broadcast, you can
Speaker 1: give us notes, give us an interview subject, give us research.
Speaker 1: We can do all that stuff. But I guess trying
Speaker 1: to We're in a position now as executive producers of
Speaker 1: something to come up with ideas and make sure we
Speaker 1: put plans in place and make sure we have the
Speaker 1: structure and the rundown. And it's just more of we don't.
Speaker 1: It's not just amount of not having the help. This
Speaker 1: is just a new muscle and a new industry almost
Speaker 1: we're having to learn. So that for us, and a
Speaker 1: lot of that we have we have learned a lot,
Speaker 1: and it feels so much better and different, good to
Speaker 1: sit here. But that was a learning.
Speaker 2: Curve for us, Yeah, for sure. I mean, when we
Speaker 2: were in broadcasting, we always worked together, so we knew
Speaker 2: we could do that well. But we were directed as
Speaker 2: to what to do and who said what when, and
Speaker 2: so we were kind of following instructions, and we had
Speaker 2: took licenses in liberties creatively, but we were under a
Speaker 2: very specific structure. So this has been a huge learning
Speaker 2: curve to have kind of anything and everything be a possibility.
Speaker 2: Who does what, who takes on what role, who writes this,
Speaker 2: who comes up with ideas. It's just we've had to
Speaker 2: It's been a little bit of a struggle in some moments,
Speaker 2: but I think we've We're in a really good place now,
Speaker 2: in a really good flow right now, so we're feeling
Speaker 2: good about it. But yeah, the first few months were tough.
Speaker 3: You set me up for my next question from Devin.
Speaker 3: How has your relationship with how the public perceives you
Speaker 3: changed from your first podcast episode to recording now?
Speaker 2: Okay, well, it's easy to say this. I've always tried
Speaker 2: to live by it. I know you have too. If
Speaker 2: you believe the good things people say about you, then
Speaker 2: you have to believe the bad. You can't just pick
Speaker 2: and choose. I mean, it's like you can't get swept up.
Speaker 2: I guess in whatever people are saying about you, you
Speaker 2: have to know who you are and where you're coming
Speaker 2: from and what your intent is. However, I will say,
Speaker 2: as a human being the other day, we try not
Speaker 2: to read the comments. But I think you were there
Speaker 2: when Avan and Anna were kind of yelling like, hey, mom,
Speaker 2: have you seen the comments lately? They're really good, Like
Speaker 2: people are really supporting you guys. And so, in a
Speaker 2: weird way, for me, knowing that my daughters see the
Speaker 2: support for us makes me feel good that they feel.
Speaker 2: It's a hard thing for a for anyone who loves someone,
Speaker 2: but especially maybe a child to a parent, to see
Speaker 2: someone who they thought was up on a pedestal, who
Speaker 2: people like to suddenly be considered the opposite, like a
Speaker 2: pariah or whatever. So I actually I felt good knowing
Speaker 2: that they were seeing positive comments and support, and that
Speaker 2: made me feel good as a human being. I mean,
Speaker 2: I wish I could say I didn't I wasn't affected
Speaker 2: by any of that, but for sure I do feel
Speaker 2: a more positive warm feeling when I think about hopefully
Speaker 2: what most people, or hopefully at least some people think
Speaker 2: of us.
Speaker 1: So do you think it made a difference as well?
Speaker 1: When we start getting out more and actually interacting with
Speaker 1: more people and you're just not sitting behind a damn
Speaker 1: door with your phone, and oftentimes the folks who are
Speaker 1: throwing a lobbing things at you, you know, and social
Speaker 1: media and things, aren't the folks who are trying to
Speaker 1: send a positive message. So I think once we started
Speaker 1: getting out and interacting and seeing not friends, we saw friends,
Speaker 1: but just members of the general public. And how yes,
Speaker 1: it's not everybody hates you, not everybody thinks the worst
Speaker 1: of you. And also I think once the story right
Speaker 1: once since our first podcast is slowly but surely people
Speaker 1: are getting more of an idea of what actually happened
Speaker 1: with us, which is not what they were told when
Speaker 1: everything went down. I think once people understand and the
Speaker 1: story a little more, it's making a huge difference as well.
Speaker 1: So the yeah, it's shifted a lot since the very beginning.
Speaker 3: Abby asks what is your biggest ick about each other?
Speaker 2: Mine is really simple, I've told you this, and I'm
Speaker 2: not just saying like I just like watching you. That
Speaker 2: sounds creepy, but I like almost everything about you, even
Speaker 2: the things that just make you uniquely you. The one
Speaker 2: thing you do that drives me crazy is you pop
Speaker 2: your right elbow. It and you do it multiple times
Speaker 2: a day. But I can live with that. It's okay,
Speaker 2: But I can't really think of anything else. Oh oh oh,
Speaker 2: you just like to sleep diagonally across the bed. That's tough.
Speaker 2: That's it. I'm done.
Speaker 1: That's all you get. Yeah, I think there's probably more.
Speaker 1: That's all you get.
Speaker 2: That's all I can think of right now.
Speaker 1: Okay, So to answer this, I am going to defend
Speaker 1: myself against your too wild accusations. The elbow, it's an
Speaker 1: I don't think it was an injury, but it was
Speaker 1: a habit. Like anybody else's. Something gets tight and you
Speaker 1: pop it like a knuckle. It's my elbow gets tight
Speaker 1: and I do. But you have told me you didn't
Speaker 1: like it, and I have tried to not do it
Speaker 1: as much. I still do it in front of you.
Speaker 1: I know I do, but I have I am aware
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm conscious of it. Two sleeping across
Speaker 1: the bed. I think anybody here who's listened to the
Speaker 1: podcast knows that TJ likes to sleep with the TV on.
Speaker 1: The TV's always on, so if the TV is at
Speaker 1: the foot of the bed that direction, if I'm watching TV,
Speaker 1: I can put myself in a sleeping position that to
Speaker 1: watch TV, all I have to do is open my eyes.
Speaker 1: I don't want to go to sleep, just close the eyes.
Speaker 1: Don't have to change position at all. I'm not on
Speaker 1: my back. I'm not not. If you're at that angle,
Speaker 1: perfect viewing, perfect sleeping, Why that doesn't make sense to you?
Speaker 1: I will never.
Speaker 2: Understand because it doesn't really give me any room to sleep.
Speaker 2: That's the problem. Sometimes I put my legs over your
Speaker 2: body because I'm sleeping the way most people sleep, which
Speaker 2: is lengthwise.
Speaker 1: You always get more sleep than I do. That's true,
Speaker 1: you sleep more soundly and longer. Your problem is, no,
Speaker 1: I get what you're saying. I sleep like that all
Speaker 1: the time when you're I'm not in a bed with you.
Speaker 1: When I am in the bed with you, then I
Speaker 1: know better yes than to do that. But it's funny
Speaker 1: when you come out of the bathroom.
Speaker 2: So he does it on purpose. I comment, I'm like, really,
Speaker 2: and he's completely like taking up the whole bed. That's
Speaker 2: just and then it's like he's dead weight and can't move.
Speaker 1: That's just to be funny, you know, I said this,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna kind of I kind of want to take
Speaker 1: a high a high road approach to this, but it's
Speaker 1: too it's too convenient. Maybe they brought this up not
Speaker 1: too long ago, this idea of that you're ick about somebody.
Speaker 1: I hated the idea of trying to find something I
Speaker 1: didn't like about you, like to intentionally look at you
Speaker 1: and say, hmm, let me figure. It's just to put
Speaker 1: myself in that mindset. I got annoyed when I was
Speaker 1: trying to do it previous and somebody had asked me.
Speaker 1: So I was like, well, I participate in that exercise,
Speaker 1: but if I'm being honest, please do please do I
Speaker 1: an ick, an ick, I don't know what What do
Speaker 1: I complain about with you? What do I say, babe?
Speaker 1: Why are you doing that? What do I do?
Speaker 2: This isn't what do I say? Oh, chewing? I bought
Speaker 2: my gum. I bought my gum. Yeah, And that's annoying.
Speaker 2: And then the interrupting I am I'm not excusing because
Speaker 2: it's rude, rude, rude. But I didn't realize how rude
Speaker 2: it was because I was just so enthusiastic first of
Speaker 2: all to say something, but also I was afraid that
Speaker 2: I'd forget it in three seconds if I didn't say it.
Speaker 2: That's my worst habit, Like my brain does not retain.
Speaker 2: If I have an idea, but I don't say it
Speaker 2: right away, it's gone. But it's rude, and I hopefully
Speaker 2: have gotten better.
Speaker 1: Okay, but I was thinking more of yes, and what
Speaker 1: you're talking about there, that's a habit you can change,
Speaker 1: versus I don't know that I'm looking at as there's
Speaker 1: something about you, an ick about you. I don't know
Speaker 1: if there's a I don't know. Maybe you know, as
Speaker 1: soon as we're gonna leave here, I'm.
Speaker 2: Going, wow, yeah, he's gonna he's gonna have a listing.
Speaker 1: I don't have an ick that I have. The chewing
Speaker 1: that not even the snoring.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah I do, I do.
Speaker 1: Store you're a snorer, yeah, big times.
Speaker 2: Didn't realize that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, people snore normal function.
Speaker 2: Yeah, not a big deal.
Speaker 3: You know. There was a trend on TikTok actually for
Speaker 3: the friend that interrupts any sort of silence and they
Speaker 3: just want to chat with their friend. Was to give
Speaker 3: them a notepad and to write down all of their questions, comments, ideas,
Speaker 3: and then present the notepad after.
Speaker 1: Smart You think you can do that? Yeah, I know
Speaker 1: you can't. You know the sounds offensive we talk about
Speaker 1: you're not a you can't do two things at once.
Speaker 1: You don't excel at doing that. Like I mean something
Speaker 1: as simple as we could be in the middle of
Speaker 1: a conversation while we're getting ready to go run and
Speaker 1: you can't put your shoes on and talk to me
Speaker 1: at the same time, and I say, baby, stop talking,
Speaker 1: put the shoes on so we can go. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: if you put the shoes on, the conversation stops.
Speaker 2: It's I need to focus.
Speaker 1: Yeah you do, but you will focus on that one thing.
Speaker 1: But when you do multiples. He gets drink.
Speaker 3: Sophie asks, who are each of your role models, alive
Speaker 3: or dead?
Speaker 2: I can name one of them for me. Diane Sawyer.
Speaker 2: I have always marveled at her ability to do her
Speaker 2: job and to do it with such grace. She has
Speaker 2: been and was such a beautiful mentor to me. The
Speaker 2: moment I met her, I could barely even speak in
Speaker 2: her presence because I had been watching her and studying
Speaker 2: her the moment I knew I wanted to be a journalist.
Speaker 2: But she's just a beautiful mind and just a smart woman,
Speaker 2: a smart woman who I have just always wanted to
Speaker 2: emulate in my career and definitely has been a role
Speaker 2: model in my life.
Speaker 1: I will go with Andrew Young, Ambassador Andrew Young from Atlanta,
Speaker 1: who is the first African American that served as UN
Speaker 1: Ambassador under Clinton, former mayor of Atlanta. But he was
Speaker 1: someone I just in my time in living in Atlanta
Speaker 1: and working down there at CNN, I got to know
Speaker 1: and got to travel with and got to just sit
Speaker 1: I know, I know it the hell out of him
Speaker 1: a lot, but I got access to him at times
Speaker 1: and I would just sit like a kid, just trying
Speaker 1: to learn and take in every bit of information he had.
Speaker 1: And he's one of the most incredible deal makers and
Speaker 1: I am able to put people together in the way
Speaker 1: that I've never ever seen before. His life, his legacy,
Speaker 1: his resume for itself. But he is someone I was
Speaker 1: just always in awe of an amazed by, going from
Speaker 1: right marching with Martin Luther King to UN ambassadors, mayor
Speaker 1: and Congress all these things he's done, just that. Dude's incredible,
Speaker 1: So he would be my guy.
Speaker 3: Charlotte asks, if living in New York was no longer
Speaker 3: an option, where.
Speaker 1: Would the two of you live one?
Speaker 2: You know it already Atlanta, right? Is that what you
Speaker 2: would say?
Speaker 1: I like one, I was looking.
Speaker 2: For a tax free state. I mean, Georgia is a
Speaker 2: place that we both know and love, and that would
Speaker 2: probably be the place I would think we would do
Speaker 2: well in. But I also I could I could live.
Speaker 2: This sounds so cheesy, but I could live almost anywhere
Speaker 2: as long as I was with TJ. Like, it really
Speaker 2: wouldn't matter that much.
Speaker 1: I think maybe I'm with you there. Atlanta would have
Speaker 1: to be our My folks are Memphis, yours are right
Speaker 1: outside of Atlanta. It would just makes sense for us.
Speaker 1: I was thinking trying to think of a fun town,
Speaker 1: like it wasn't a family situation. Where could we be
Speaker 1: where we want to be?
Speaker 2: New Orleans, Miami. I haven't loved Nashville. I mean, there's
Speaker 2: a lot of places I could live, But I've noticed
Speaker 2: I've just said everything in the South.
Speaker 1: We just said every place I like to visit. I've
Speaker 1: never thought about making any of those places home, true, right,
Speaker 1: I love going to those spots. But yeah, Atlanta is
Speaker 1: just such a home. Memphis is home even internationally for us.
Speaker 1: I think London we'd probably be in our top three
Speaker 1: places if we were considering.
Speaker 2: We could live in London and really really excel.
Speaker 3: Wow. Oh Lane asks what are your favorite quotes or
Speaker 3: phrases you live by?
Speaker 2: Oh, I have a list.
Speaker 1: I don't have a list. Some stuff I could reel off.
Speaker 1: Don't let perfect get in the way of good money
Speaker 1: is what people without talent used to keep score Bible Verse.
Speaker 1: Do not fret because of evil doers, nor be envious
Speaker 1: of the workers of inequity, where they say'll soon be
Speaker 1: cut down like the grass and weather as the green herb.
Speaker 1: I like that one.
Speaker 2: I got few. If you want, keep going, keep going off,
Speaker 2: keep going. I'm impressed this dude can memory Like your
Speaker 2: brain is the opposite of mine. You retain everything, and
Speaker 2: it's remarkable. I'm in awe that you can just spout
Speaker 2: these off. I again, have just pulled up my Apple
Speaker 2: notes list so I can read off of mine. But
Speaker 2: please continue.
Speaker 1: This is the first thing to kind of come to mind.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm a big Colts guy. So yeah, I'm
Speaker 1: not even sure what I just reeled off.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. Well, if you could, I didn't want to.
Speaker 2: I did interrupt you, That's what I just did. Uh,
Speaker 2: my apologies. I have anything that's happening to you is
Speaker 2: actually happening for you. That's one of my favorites. Comparison
Speaker 2: is the thief of joy. I love when what you
Speaker 2: appreciate appreciates It is not about belongings, it's about belonging.
Speaker 2: Those are some of the things I love and then
Speaker 2: don't be invested in outcomes. I think that's been a
Speaker 2: huge part for me. And instead of being defensive, be defenseless.
Speaker 2: That's a really tough one for me. But I try
Speaker 2: to remind myself of that, usually after the fact, maybe
Speaker 2: not when I'm in the middle of it. And you
Speaker 2: know what I told you about this, Michael Strahan, I wrote,
Speaker 2: I write down quotes when I see them that helped
Speaker 2: me live better or just remind me of where I
Speaker 2: want to place my focus. But Michael Strahan on this
Speaker 2: set of Good Morning America said this to me one
Speaker 2: day and I wrote it down, so I have to
Speaker 2: give it to him. You can't complain about something you're
Speaker 2: not trying to fix and I love that.
Speaker 1: Okay, you know, I got ton I was still taking
Speaker 1: notes on them, but I got quotes forever, So I'll
Speaker 1: leave it at the one thigh.
Speaker 3: I was just listening to Kevin from the office and
Speaker 3: he recited the last line from the final season and
Speaker 3: he said, there's beauty and ordinary things.
Speaker 2: I love that I do too.
Speaker 3: Okay. Last question is from Kristen. She asks who is
Speaker 3: someone you would love to interview on this podcast and why.
Speaker 1: Jennifer Lopez. Why? Because I think that lady needs a
Speaker 1: break and a safe somewhere to express ourselfs don't even
Speaker 1: me wrong. I'm sure there's the other places she could
Speaker 1: do that and find some sincerity, but there was just
Speaker 1: so much going on that I almost feel like giving
Speaker 1: her in particular. But the two of them like just
Speaker 1: a hug, just a big old hug. So I would
Speaker 1: love to get those two in here, and not for
Speaker 1: the sake of you know what. I would like to
Speaker 1: talk to them and we never have to air the episode.
Speaker 1: I would like to get in a room with them
Speaker 1: and just say, Hi, guys, how you doing. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, so many people, just if they're in a
Speaker 2: safe space, actually have so much wisdom based on what
Speaker 2: they've experienced that they probably will never feel free or
Speaker 2: safe to share. So yeah, I would love that too.
Speaker 2: I would love I would love to interview Will Smith.
Speaker 2: I had just finished reading his book when I think
Speaker 2: it was maybe a couple months before the Oscars the
Speaker 2: slab heard around around the world happened, and I would
Speaker 2: just I would love to see he had so much
Speaker 2: wisdom in all the life he had lived that he
Speaker 2: put into his book that I listened to training for
Speaker 2: my first marathon. I actually listened to the audiobook of it.
Speaker 2: It's a great book. But given what happened since that
Speaker 2: and where he is now, I would I would love
Speaker 2: to talk to him.
Speaker 1: You've read the book and all that. That was the
Speaker 1: last time I talked to him. Wow was the interview
Speaker 1: we did in Philadelphia. He was promoting that book, And yeah,
Speaker 1: I wonder what we just saw Bad Boys for We
Speaker 1: did not too long ago. So many he's back out there.
Speaker 1: That movie did well, so who knows what's coming, But
Speaker 1: just for people who've experienced and gone through something to
Speaker 1: that level. And I get what you're saying there.
Speaker 2: Alec Baldwin and Hilaria, like we I would love to
Speaker 2: talk to them too. I think, you know, we're so
Speaker 2: quick to judge and just people who've had to go
Speaker 2: through it, who are looking for maybe that second, third,
Speaker 2: fourth chance that I think hopefully most of us deserve.
Speaker 2: So I just love really getting to understand not only
Speaker 2: what people have been through, but what they've learned from it,