1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:04,440 Speaker 1: Welcome back. In our number three Wednesday edition, Clay Travis 2 00:00:04,480 --> 00:00:08,640 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton show Buck soon to be celebrating his fortieth birthday. 3 00:00:08,720 --> 00:00:10,720 Speaker 1: He's out for the rest of the year. I'm hanging 4 00:00:10,720 --> 00:00:14,560 Speaker 1: out with you guys solo today and tomorrow. Lots to 5 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:16,760 Speaker 1: get into. We got a guest already on the line 6 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,760 Speaker 1: with us. He has Super Bowl winning coach Dick Vermil, 7 00:00:20,960 --> 00:00:25,119 Speaker 1: who has got a story coming out a movie, great, 8 00:00:25,160 --> 00:00:28,880 Speaker 1: fantastic movie that I've already watched, American Underdog about Kurt 9 00:00:28,920 --> 00:00:32,879 Speaker 1: Warner and the Saint Louis Rams team that won the 10 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:36,240 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Coach Vermil, I'm excited to talk with you. 11 00:00:37,360 --> 00:00:39,480 Speaker 1: What's it like when we started here? Thanks for giving 12 00:00:39,520 --> 00:00:41,960 Speaker 1: us this time, this close to Christmas. What's it like 13 00:00:42,159 --> 00:00:47,560 Speaker 1: to watch someone playing you in a movie? Well, when 14 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:49,840 Speaker 1: you first see it, now I've seen it three times, okay, 15 00:00:49,920 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 1: And plus I was in the Invincible movie about Prince 16 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:54,760 Speaker 1: Book Palley, Yes, a long time ago, so I'm sort 17 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:56,880 Speaker 1: of used to it. But it makes me nervous. It 18 00:00:56,960 --> 00:00:58,920 Speaker 1: makes me nervous, And when I'm all said and done, 19 00:00:59,040 --> 00:01:01,320 Speaker 1: I say, hell, he did beef better and I do myself, 20 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:06,520 Speaker 1: all right. So when I watched this movie and full disclosure, 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,800 Speaker 1: I'm a Titans fan, so I liked everything but the ending. 22 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:13,280 Speaker 1: But when I watched this movie, I couldn't help thinking 23 00:01:13,800 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: this is a perfect example of how truth is truly 24 00:01:17,480 --> 00:01:21,559 Speaker 1: stranger than fiction, because if you tried to sketch out 25 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: this movie, there's no way anyone would believe it was 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: remotely possible that a guy who's stocking shelves in an 27 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:33,520 Speaker 1: Iowa grocery store would end up the MVP of the league, 28 00:01:33,640 --> 00:01:36,679 Speaker 1: the rookie of the Year, and would win a Super Bowl. 29 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:39,560 Speaker 1: When you look back on it now, I know when 30 00:01:39,560 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 1: you're in the middle of it it it can feel 31 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:46,320 Speaker 1: crazy and wild. But does it seem like a remarkably 32 00:01:46,560 --> 00:01:50,600 Speaker 1: improbable story to you watching even yourself, As you said, 33 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 1: you've seen it three times when you watched the story 34 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 1: of what happened in that season. Yeah, you know, I 35 00:01:58,400 --> 00:02:01,720 Speaker 1: still shake myself walk out. Like you said, I've seen 36 00:02:01,760 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: it three times. Each time I see it, I'll like 37 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: it better because it makes me think more about the 38 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 1: whole process. You know, they didn't include his very first 39 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,519 Speaker 1: year with US as the third quarterback coming out of 40 00:02:13,520 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 1: the Arena League because the movie would have been too long, 41 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:18,959 Speaker 1: and they did a great jib of condensing it. But 42 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: each time I've looked at it, I go back and 43 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: you know, first off, it had never happened before, and secondly, 44 00:02:25,280 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: it will probably never happen again, and he made it happen. 45 00:02:30,560 --> 00:02:33,359 Speaker 1: But it's more than a story about a quarterback. It's 46 00:02:33,400 --> 00:02:37,359 Speaker 1: a life story. Yeah, struggle both you know, both husband 47 00:02:37,400 --> 00:02:41,119 Speaker 1: and wife, and the whole process. And so I think 48 00:02:41,160 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 1: it will stimulate people emotionally because they'll be able to 49 00:02:45,600 --> 00:02:48,160 Speaker 1: relate to some period in their life. They went to 50 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: something maybe not as rastic, but pretty close to it 51 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:53,520 Speaker 1: and they battled through it and made it, or they 52 00:02:53,520 --> 00:02:55,520 Speaker 1: didn't make it and had to take a different avenue. 53 00:02:55,639 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: So I think there's something for everybody. It's far more 54 00:02:59,240 --> 00:03:02,120 Speaker 1: than a football story. For people out there who don't 55 00:03:02,160 --> 00:03:04,399 Speaker 1: know this story, let me give him a quick synopsis. 56 00:03:04,960 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 1: You are the head coach of the Saint Louis Rams 57 00:03:07,800 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: in the NFL. You have got Trent second year there, 58 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 1: You've got Trent Green as your starting quarterback. The expectation 59 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: is that Trent Green. You've got a lot of talented 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,520 Speaker 1: people that are Hall of Fame caliber or Hall of 61 00:03:21,560 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: Fame guys like Isaac Bruce, like Marshall, like Marshall Falk 62 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:29,840 Speaker 1: on your team. Trent Green has a devastating knee injury 63 00:03:30,240 --> 00:03:34,840 Speaker 1: in the preseason, and suddenly incomes Kurt Warner, who had 64 00:03:34,880 --> 00:03:38,160 Speaker 1: been playing in the Arena Football League, who had gone 65 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 1: to a small school in Iowa, and who was in 66 00:03:41,600 --> 00:03:45,280 Speaker 1: his upper twenties, and it had appeared maybe football had 67 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: passed him by. So that's the background. So I want 68 00:03:48,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 1: to ask you this about Kurt Warner. How did you 69 00:03:52,000 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: come to end up with Kurt Warner on your team? 70 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 1: Who convinced you to take him and did you believe 71 00:03:58,600 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: that he could be a starting quarterback in the league. Well, 72 00:04:02,840 --> 00:04:06,280 Speaker 1: first off, he was recommended to me by a coach 73 00:04:06,400 --> 00:04:08,840 Speaker 1: that I knew from California. He had been the coach 74 00:04:08,880 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 1: at San Diego State. Anyway, I knew him, and he 75 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: had been recommended to me Charlie Armory, our personnel director, 76 00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 1: and John Becker, our college scout director, and we brought 77 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 1: him in for workout. Now this was the year before 78 00:04:22,120 --> 00:04:24,279 Speaker 1: the Super Bowl team, because he was actually there a 79 00:04:24,360 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 1: full year coming out of the Arena League as our 80 00:04:27,839 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: third quarterback. And once we signed him, we worked him out, 81 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 1: liked him, and it wasn't a dazzling workout, but we 82 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: needed depths, so we signed him and sent him to 83 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:39,800 Speaker 1: Europe to play in the NFL europe League, and he 84 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:42,760 Speaker 1: played ten games that were already played well. Then he 85 00:04:42,839 --> 00:04:46,719 Speaker 1: came back and he became our third quarterback for sixteen games. 86 00:04:46,760 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: He didn't play in a game until the last game 87 00:04:49,880 --> 00:04:52,159 Speaker 1: of the season when we were getting beat we put 88 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:54,159 Speaker 1: him into the fourth quarter. I think he threw the 89 00:04:54,200 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: balls ten fifteen times and completed four. That was it. 90 00:04:58,360 --> 00:05:02,919 Speaker 1: Then we make him our second quarterback coming into my 91 00:05:03,080 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: third year at the Rams, his second year, and we 92 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: have signed Trent Greener as a free agent to be 93 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:12,200 Speaker 1: our starting quarterback and built what we thought was going 94 00:05:12,279 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 1: to be a real good football team, probably a playoff 95 00:05:15,160 --> 00:05:18,400 Speaker 1: team around him. Well, he gets hurt in the preseason game, 96 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:23,280 Speaker 1: and lo and behold we go with Kurt Warner. We 97 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:27,200 Speaker 1: all thought Kurt could play from having watched him as 98 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: our third quarterback throw the ball against our defensive team 99 00:05:31,640 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: in preparation for our next opponent, you know, and he 100 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,240 Speaker 1: threw the ball. Well, but you always say when you 101 00:05:36,320 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: walk off the field, well he's you know, it's not 102 00:05:38,880 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: game day. There's not eighty thousand people stands, he probably 103 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,240 Speaker 1: couldn't play this well in a regular game. Wrong, we 104 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,760 Speaker 1: were wrong. So all of a sudden, he's our starter 105 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 1: going into the first game of the season against the Ravens, 106 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 1: and from then on he wrote his own story. He 107 00:05:56,520 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: wrote his own story. No quarterback in the history of 108 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: the league started it out like he did. He threw 109 00:06:02,080 --> 00:06:05,400 Speaker 1: three touchdowns in the first Big game, three touchdown passes 110 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:08,599 Speaker 1: in the second game, three touchdown passes in the third game, 111 00:06:08,880 --> 00:06:12,359 Speaker 1: five touchdown passes in the fourth game, one touchdown pass 112 00:06:12,400 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: in the sixth game, three more in the next game. 113 00:06:15,600 --> 00:06:18,680 Speaker 1: No one had ever done. The eighteen touchdowns, three pass 114 00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:21,800 Speaker 1: three pass interceptions in the first six game, no one 115 00:06:21,839 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 1: had ever done. That's the first time starting a football 116 00:06:24,520 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: So back that time, you know, we said, you know something, 117 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,599 Speaker 1: this guy special, he's got it, and he went on 118 00:06:31,920 --> 00:06:35,240 Speaker 1: and played us so well. He carried us into the 119 00:06:35,279 --> 00:06:37,440 Speaker 1: super Bowl and then on it he was the MVP 120 00:06:37,520 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: in the Super Bowl. Never happened before, it will probably 121 00:06:40,440 --> 00:06:44,080 Speaker 1: never happen again. What makes deciding whether a guy can 122 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: be a good quarterback so hard? Well, you know, it's 123 00:06:49,120 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: it's sometimes it's observation. With me, I always go on 124 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:57,120 Speaker 1: what I see, not so much what I think other 125 00:06:57,160 --> 00:07:00,839 Speaker 1: people think. Is sometimes what other people see. I've been very, 126 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:04,360 Speaker 1: very fortunate in my long coaching career, both in high schools, 127 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 1: junior college, college and PROPO was always having a quarterback 128 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: that could really play, from an All American, you know, 129 00:07:11,840 --> 00:07:16,240 Speaker 1: to All Pro NFC Player of the Year in Jaworski, 130 00:07:16,360 --> 00:07:19,640 Speaker 1: to the most valuable player in the league, and you 131 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:22,600 Speaker 1: know in Kurt Warner. I've just been lucky, and I've 132 00:07:22,640 --> 00:07:25,640 Speaker 1: gone on what I see and my hunches and my 133 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:29,400 Speaker 1: gut feelings about watching people when they compete and they compare. 134 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: So I would say he just First off, I'm not 135 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: bright enough to say I could predict he was going 136 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:37,680 Speaker 1: to do what he did, but I thought he would play, 137 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,840 Speaker 1: and I thought he would play well. This movie is 138 00:07:40,840 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: coming out for Christmas. There've been early previews that are 139 00:07:44,960 --> 00:07:49,679 Speaker 1: already out. American Underdog. You've watched it three times. I've 140 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,120 Speaker 1: watched it as well. It's a tremendous family movie. Kurt 141 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: and his wife, Brenda have a tremendous relationship between the 142 00:07:57,080 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 1: two of them. Four people out there. I know you've 143 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: kids and grandkids yourself. What do you think families can 144 00:08:03,960 --> 00:08:06,920 Speaker 1: take from the story of Kurt and Brenda Warner and 145 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,200 Speaker 1: the rise to a Super Bowl championship. There's football in 146 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:12,720 Speaker 1: this story, but it's about a lot more than football. 147 00:08:13,800 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you know. It's a story of persistence, story 148 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: of deep belief and faith in yourself, a story and 149 00:08:24,320 --> 00:08:28,840 Speaker 1: commitment to me, a life's dream and you know, a 150 00:08:29,000 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: tremendously deep belief in what you thought you could do. 151 00:08:33,320 --> 00:08:36,560 Speaker 1: And he would not allow Kurt would not allow anybody 152 00:08:36,559 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: to write him off. They tried to write him off 153 00:08:38,480 --> 00:08:41,280 Speaker 1: in college. He didn't start until part of the season 154 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:43,559 Speaker 1: is fifth year, I think it was, or senior year, 155 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: you know, in Iowa, Okay, Northern Iowa. And then of 156 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: course he had to go. He goes to Green Bay. 157 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,880 Speaker 1: He gets a blink there. He didn't get drafted, and 158 00:08:54,920 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 1: they cut him right off the bat. He knew he 159 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: wasn't ready, but they saw he wasn't ready. He was 160 00:09:00,240 --> 00:09:02,560 Speaker 1: very conscientious and he didn't want to do things. He 161 00:09:02,600 --> 00:09:05,480 Speaker 1: didn't do well anyway, he didn't impress him. They let 162 00:09:05,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: him go. He ends up in the Arena League and 163 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: he takes them all the way to the championship game. 164 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:14,839 Speaker 1: In the Arena League, the Iowa Barnstormers and all this 165 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: is included in the build up to end up with 166 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 1: Saint Louis Rams. But fans, non football fans and football 167 00:09:25,559 --> 00:09:28,600 Speaker 1: fans are going to enjoy it because, like I said earlier, 168 00:09:28,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: it's more a like story, you know, and people are 169 00:09:32,360 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: going to be able to identify with it. Talking to 170 00:09:36,200 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 1: coach Dick Vermeil, who won a Super Bowl with Kurt 171 00:09:38,920 --> 00:09:43,160 Speaker 1: Warner an amazing story a little over twenty years ago. Coach, 172 00:09:43,200 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 1: I heard a great story about you and how committed 173 00:09:46,160 --> 00:09:48,440 Speaker 1: you were to the time that it takes to be 174 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: an excellent coach. I want to find out if it's 175 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 1: true that you and your wife were flying one time 176 00:09:55,240 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: and you were watching on the screen there and inside 177 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:03,240 Speaker 1: of the the plane a television show, and you were 178 00:10:03,280 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 1: watching it. You were really laughing, and you eventually turned 179 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,199 Speaker 1: to your wife and you were like, man, this show 180 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:12,440 Speaker 1: is really good, and your wife said, yeah, coach, it's 181 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: it's Seinfeld. It's one of the most famous shows ever 182 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 1: and you had never heard or seen the television show Seinfeld. 183 00:10:19,200 --> 00:10:24,000 Speaker 1: Is that a true story? That's true? So you are 184 00:10:24,080 --> 00:10:26,559 Speaker 1: committed so much? I mean, because I think a lot 185 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:28,360 Speaker 1: of people out there who don't spend a lot of 186 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,480 Speaker 1: time around coaches. The amount of hours and the amount 187 00:10:31,480 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: of effort and focus that it requires to be really 188 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: good with your team, you almost have to have blinders 189 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:42,280 Speaker 1: on as in terms of the larger cultural landscape. Well, 190 00:10:42,760 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 1: you almost hit it right on the nail. I said, 191 00:10:44,800 --> 00:10:48,960 Speaker 1: I was blindly committed to being the best football coach 192 00:10:49,080 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: I could be blindly committed. And what my problem was 193 00:10:53,000 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: I allowed the passion to become an obsession and then 194 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: I had to leave the game. I didn't anticipate leaving 195 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:02,320 Speaker 1: a fourteen years, but I was so fortunate that John 196 00:11:02,360 --> 00:11:06,640 Speaker 1: Shaw in Georgia Frontier and Jay Segment the RAMS organization 197 00:11:06,760 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 1: wanted me to coach your football team. So I went 198 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 1: back after fourteen seasons. Best decision, second, best decision and 199 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 1: probably ever made my life. So coach what burned you 200 00:11:18,080 --> 00:11:19,680 Speaker 1: out the first time? Because I think it's such a 201 00:11:19,679 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: fascinating question. What burned you out the first time? And 202 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:26,000 Speaker 1: had you learned by the second time that allowed you 203 00:11:26,040 --> 00:11:29,680 Speaker 1: to achieve a different level almost of success, Like what 204 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:34,040 Speaker 1: occurred that made you a better coach the second time 205 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: that you didn't know the first time? Well, the first 206 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 1: time I allowed losing to affect me so much. I 207 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 1: spent too much time after the loss evaluating why I lost, 208 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: which ineferable for my preparation to prepare my team to 209 00:11:50,480 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 1: play for the next win. And in my own personal evaluation, 210 00:11:55,120 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 1: I could see I wasn't doing a good job after 211 00:11:57,760 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 1: I lost the next one, or maybe squeaked out at 212 00:12:00,080 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 1: in and it just kept snow balling on me. I 213 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:06,319 Speaker 1: just couldn't, you know, handle all that kind of stuff 214 00:12:06,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: after seven years at the head coach of the Eagles, 215 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:11,440 Speaker 1: and people have told me I was pushing myself too 216 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:16,599 Speaker 1: hard and h but I wouldn't listen when I came back. Obviously, 217 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 1: after fourteen years out, I couldn't be my own offensive Courtnay, 218 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: I couldn't be my quarterback coach to call all the 219 00:12:22,840 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: players game day. I was the head coach. But what 220 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: I had learned to is decide one of the most 221 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:32,079 Speaker 1: important things for a leader in an organization to do, 222 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:36,560 Speaker 1: and then surround yourself with people could do these other 223 00:12:36,640 --> 00:12:40,400 Speaker 1: things that you don't do because you're you're the leader 224 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 1: of the organization, and and then backham and provide them 225 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:47,640 Speaker 1: within the football You provide them with an organization that 226 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: supports them properly, that gives them the right kind of personnel, 227 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 1: that gives a player a sense of discipline and a 228 00:12:57,280 --> 00:13:02,000 Speaker 1: sense of process, and an excitement about being in the 229 00:13:02,120 --> 00:13:06,200 Speaker 1: environment he's playing in, and you go from there. Let's see, 230 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 1: I tried to do all that in one show, all 231 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:11,839 Speaker 1: the way through you know, high school, junior, college, college, 232 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and then on into the pro football. And I ran 233 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,520 Speaker 1: out of gas doing that in pro football. And when 234 00:13:17,520 --> 00:13:20,679 Speaker 1: I went back I was a better overall leader of 235 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: the total process and building the culture from the ownership 236 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:28,559 Speaker 1: right on through the organization to the fourth string player 237 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:32,480 Speaker 1: on your football team. He's Dick vermil The movie is 238 00:13:32,480 --> 00:13:35,880 Speaker 1: American Underdog. It is fantastic. Coach, have a great Christmas. 239 00:13:35,920 --> 00:13:38,360 Speaker 1: We appreciate you taking some time with us this morning. Yeah, well, 240 00:13:38,400 --> 00:13:40,840 Speaker 1: I sure hope the fans take the time to go 241 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: see it. But it's going to be the best Christian president. 242 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: They buy themselves outstanding stuff. Thanks coach. We'll talk about 243 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,559 Speaker 1: that a little bit more. But in the meantime, one 244 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: of the many things talked about when it comes to 245 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: Gold is protection. Buckspan's a lot of time talking about this. 246 00:13:55,440 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: It makes perfect sense. You can't have the kind of 247 00:13:57,720 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: inflation we're experiencing without the future value of your savings 248 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 1: account being diminished, our dollar in the future won't go 249 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: as far. No one in the White House is going 250 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 1: to say that, but you don't need to hear that 251 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:12,000 Speaker 1: to know what you're experiencing at the gas station or 252 00:14:12,040 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: your favorite store. Protecting the long term value of your 253 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:17,920 Speaker 1: savings has helped when you invest a portion of it 254 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: in gold. Gold has proven to hold its value and 255 00:14:20,640 --> 00:14:23,800 Speaker 1: grow consistently over time and value. Buy it as a 256 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: part of your financial plan. 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And I don't know 276 00:15:43,600 --> 00:15:45,360 Speaker 1: how many of you paid attention to what the box 277 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:49,040 Speaker 1: office was, but Spider Man did over two hundred and 278 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: fifty million dollars in its opening weekend, which is the 279 00:15:53,440 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: biggest amount of opening weekend gross that a movie has 280 00:15:58,400 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: done since Avenge Year's End Game, second biggest ever for 281 00:16:02,880 --> 00:16:07,400 Speaker 1: that Spider Man movie. Why is that significant? Even with 282 00:16:07,440 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: Omicron going on, millions of people we're willing to go 283 00:16:12,680 --> 00:16:16,200 Speaker 1: watch the new Spider Man movie in theaters, including in 284 00:16:16,200 --> 00:16:19,640 Speaker 1: New York City and LA. 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Reasonable, rational people 294 00:16:57,480 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 1: are going to live their lives. You can't stay led 295 00:17:00,320 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: up in the fetal position forever, and at some point 296 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:07,760 Speaker 1: you have to stand up and say your fears don't 297 00:17:07,840 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 1: cancel my freedoms. And I think that's what happened frankly 298 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 1: with the Spider Man movie, with football games that are 299 00:17:13,080 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: going on. And I hope, by the way, that the 300 00:17:16,160 --> 00:17:18,920 Speaker 1: Supreme Court is going to be willing to stand up 301 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:22,719 Speaker 1: to the Biden vaccine mandates. 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We'll welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 331 00:19:18,320 --> 00:19:20,840 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go give us a five star review. 332 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:25,360 Speaker 1: I will have Dub review all those podcast ratings and 333 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 1: I will have him send me the most entertaining and 334 00:19:28,280 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: I will read some of them tomorrow in what will 335 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 1: be our final show, Buck or myself of twenty twenty one. 336 00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,600 Speaker 1: We will have Michael Berrien as a guest host for 337 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 1: next week, and Buck and I will be back together 338 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:45,480 Speaker 1: right after the first of the year. But we appreciate 339 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,480 Speaker 1: all the support you guys have shown us throughout this 340 00:19:48,880 --> 00:19:53,160 Speaker 1: six months since we took over the Rush spot, and 341 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,160 Speaker 1: we have had a tremendous time. Talk some more about 342 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,159 Speaker 1: that tomorrow. I started off the show for those of 343 00:19:58,200 --> 00:19:59,879 Speaker 1: you who are just now getting in your cars or 344 00:20:00,080 --> 00:20:03,159 Speaker 1: just catching up with the fact that New York Times 345 00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:07,320 Speaker 1: has an editorial, and the main editorial in their newspaper 346 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:10,879 Speaker 1: today says do not close the schools again. It says 347 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:15,400 Speaker 1: that kids have virtually no risk from COVID and Also 348 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:19,960 Speaker 1: buried in there is that masking in schools should no 349 00:20:20,040 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: longer be mandatory. In fact, it says to think that 350 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: two years of masking has no negative impact is shortsighted. 351 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:33,600 Speaker 1: Kids are resilient, but not endlessly resilient. Masking in schools 352 00:20:33,720 --> 00:20:38,399 Speaker 1: should be voluntary rather than mandatory. And I thought that 353 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:44,159 Speaker 1: was interesting because the storyline it is a shifting in 354 00:20:44,200 --> 00:20:49,320 Speaker 1: a hurry. That's the New York Times. Even CNN's own 355 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:55,960 Speaker 1: resident potato head, Brian Stelter also was asking shouldn't we 356 00:20:56,040 --> 00:20:59,880 Speaker 1: be doing more to protect children by letting them live normal? Lie. 357 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: It's amazing how the narrative shift is occurring at CNN, MSNBC, 358 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: New York Times, Washington Post, you know who. They're starting 359 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: to sound a lot more like voices for reason insanity 360 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 1: like Buck and I listen to this from CNN, with 361 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,680 Speaker 1: this inevitability about more and more and more cases, what's 362 00:21:18,680 --> 00:21:21,320 Speaker 1: the better metric to be using? How should we be 363 00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: evaluating the fight against COVID? Does the NFL point the 364 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,000 Speaker 1: way forward? The NFL this weekend saying we're not going 365 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:30,119 Speaker 1: to be testing every player all the time for COVID 366 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,400 Speaker 1: because a lot of them are positive and they don't 367 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: even know it because they're asymptomatic. The NFL is only 368 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:38,720 Speaker 1: going to test if people show symptoms, If players show symptoms, 369 00:21:39,640 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 1: is that the new way forward? And here's another question, 370 00:21:42,640 --> 00:21:46,560 Speaker 1: since we're hearing about schools closing again. We collectively took 371 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: action to protect the elderly in twenty twenty. Now shouldn't 372 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:53,200 Speaker 1: we be doing more to protect children by letting them 373 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 1: live normal lives? Are we really gonna let the kids 374 00:21:56,600 --> 00:22:01,520 Speaker 1: suffer even more? Welcome to the party pal. For those 375 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:05,560 Speaker 1: of you who are die hard fans. John McClain famously said, 376 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 1: welcome to the party pal. This is what reasonable, rational 377 00:22:09,880 --> 00:22:14,879 Speaker 1: people have been saying for eighteen months. Now, we're coming 378 00:22:15,000 --> 00:22:19,879 Speaker 1: up on two year anniversary of fifteen days to stop 379 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:23,400 Speaker 1: the spread member back in March of twenty twenty. We're 380 00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:28,239 Speaker 1: almost two years to the date since that happened. And 381 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 1: only now are people in New York Times and people 382 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:37,000 Speaker 1: at CNN actually looking at the data and saying, wait 383 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:40,679 Speaker 1: a minute, kids aren't really at risk. Why are we 384 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: making them wear masks in school? Kids aren't really at risk? 385 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:51,159 Speaker 1: Why are we making them remotely go to classes? And 386 00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,720 Speaker 1: in the New York Times opinion, here I couldn't help. 387 00:22:53,720 --> 00:22:56,520 Speaker 1: But notice, you know how equity is such a big 388 00:22:56,560 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: thing for the Democratic Party. Not equality equity. You know 389 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: what ended up happening when schools shut down that people 390 00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: like Buck and I have been saying for eighteen months now. 391 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:12,640 Speaker 1: The school districts that shut down overwhelmingly served minority kids 392 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: who were the least likely to have the ability to 393 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:18,800 Speaker 1: have Wi Fi at home or have parents able to 394 00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 1: work with them. In fact, as schools reopened, this is 395 00:23:23,000 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 1: in the New York Times editorial, two percent of majority 396 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:33,160 Speaker 1: white districts stayed closed, eighteen percent of majority Black schools 397 00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:38,800 Speaker 1: stayed remote, and nearly a quarter of majority Hispanic schools 398 00:23:38,840 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 1: stayed closed. The most inequitable result of any of our 399 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:53,760 Speaker 1: lives was directly driven by Democratic Party union with teachers 400 00:23:54,200 --> 00:24:01,400 Speaker 1: and their teachers unions. They insisted that the poorest kids 401 00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,600 Speaker 1: among us were not able to be in school in person, 402 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:11,600 Speaker 1: and that had an overwhelming impact on not just education, 403 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 1: but also of children's health, because do you know that 404 00:24:19,040 --> 00:24:24,000 Speaker 1: in poor schools, a huge amount of the nutrition and 405 00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:29,440 Speaker 1: even the calories that kids get come from free breakfasts 406 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:34,000 Speaker 1: and free lunches. A huge part of kids having safe 407 00:24:34,560 --> 00:24:38,680 Speaker 1: upbringings at home comes from teachers who are able to 408 00:24:38,720 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 1: see kids who might be being abused and help to 409 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:49,960 Speaker 1: get them credit and support for all of the things 410 00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,920 Speaker 1: that are occurring in those households, because if you're not 411 00:24:54,080 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: in school, you don't have the ability to get help 412 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: all of those things. I believe the biggest public policy 413 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: failure in America since Vietnam is directly at the feet 414 00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:15,479 Speaker 1: of Democratic politicians. Mayors, congressmen, senators, and yes, Joe Biden 415 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: himself all supported lockdowns when there was zero scientific evidence 416 00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:25,520 Speaker 1: that schools should be shut down at all. And now, 417 00:25:25,760 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: make no mistake what's happening. They are trying to argue 418 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: that things have changed and that's why they can support 419 00:25:34,160 --> 00:25:38,320 Speaker 1: schools being open. CNN's gonna do it, The New York 420 00:25:38,320 --> 00:25:40,520 Speaker 1: Times is going to do it, The Washington Post, the 421 00:25:40,640 --> 00:25:43,280 Speaker 1: MSNBC's of the world, and they're going to try now 422 00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:49,320 Speaker 1: to convince you that there was no possibility of schools 423 00:25:49,400 --> 00:25:53,520 Speaker 1: being open last year, that Randy Weingarten is a hero. 424 00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 1: Watch it. They're gonna try to change the story, and 425 00:25:56,480 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna have you, some of you out there like 426 00:25:58,760 --> 00:26:01,920 Speaker 1: kind of shaking your head, saying, wait a minute, what's 427 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:05,280 Speaker 1: changed that all of a sudden, schools are able to 428 00:26:05,320 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 1: be open and kids are able to be back in person. 429 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,320 Speaker 1: The data has been clear and transparent and without question 430 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,840 Speaker 1: since back in June of twenty twenty when all of 431 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:22,160 Speaker 1: the pediatricians. Do you remember when that happened. The pediatricians 432 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:24,800 Speaker 1: came out and said, hey, we need to make sure 433 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: that schools are open. The American Academy of Pediatrics, they 434 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,199 Speaker 1: said that in June of twenty twenty, they said every 435 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 1: school needed to be open all over the country by 436 00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,679 Speaker 1: August and September of twenty twenty. Trump argued that, and 437 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,040 Speaker 1: immediately the teachers unions and all the left wingers said, 438 00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: oh my god, are you trying to kill us all. 439 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:49,920 Speaker 1: There's no way that we can have schools back open. 440 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 1: And the results are clear. Now. If you were poor, 441 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: if you were in a minority school district, you lost 442 00:26:56,920 --> 00:27:01,200 Speaker 1: over a year of instruction and as a result, that 443 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: is the most deletarious. I really believe this American social 444 00:27:05,280 --> 00:27:08,399 Speaker 1: policy decision since all the way back. I really do 445 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: believe this, and it deserves more attention than it's getting. 446 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:14,439 Speaker 1: All the way back to Vietnam and in the years ahead, 447 00:27:14,720 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 1: what Buck and I have been saying is going to 448 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:21,480 Speaker 1: become commonly accepted truth. But what you guys need to 449 00:27:21,520 --> 00:27:25,320 Speaker 1: remember is the number of people out there that allowed 450 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:30,880 Speaker 1: for this insanity to exist in the first place. When 451 00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll close out the show. I've been 452 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,240 Speaker 1: saying I'll take some calls. I promise that I will 453 00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 1: do that right now. 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By the way, David's 481 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: wig was at one on the fact that there is 482 00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:20,680 Speaker 1: no scientific basis for masks in schools. He's an Atlantic writer. 483 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 1: Encourage you to go read that article that he wrote 484 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: as well as listened to him. Dick vermil new movie 485 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:29,280 Speaker 1: American Underdog is out. The Kurt Warner story. I think 486 00:29:29,280 --> 00:29:32,560 Speaker 1: you guys are going to absolutely love that. Tomorrow we're 487 00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: going to talk with Alex Barnson, by the way, who 488 00:29:34,880 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: is officially suing Twitter over being banned for sharing COVID facts. 489 00:29:41,080 --> 00:29:44,920 Speaker 1: That is going to be an intriguing and interesting lawsuit 490 00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: for sure. We will discuss that with him, plus Eric Schmidt, 491 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 1: who is fighting all of the restrictions as the attorney 492 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: General of the state of Missouri when it comes to 493 00:29:56,080 --> 00:29:59,280 Speaker 1: masking and COVID rules that are being put in place. 494 00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 1: I think you guys will enjoy both of those discussions. 495 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 1: But let's go first too. I believe Scott in Jamestown, Tennessee, 496 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 1: and see what he's got for Scott. What's up? Okay, Claire, 497 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: real quick, I just want to let you know that 498 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:18,200 Speaker 1: my parents were real good friends at Dick Vermil's parents 499 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:22,200 Speaker 1: back in the little town Calistovia, California, and so I 500 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: just want to let you know we're all very proud 501 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,960 Speaker 1: of what he's been able to accomplish. But the real 502 00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:31,560 Speaker 1: reason I called was were recent implants from California into Tennessee. 503 00:30:32,160 --> 00:30:36,480 Speaker 1: And you're exactly right. We didn't come here to change politics. 504 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: We came here because of the politics so Tennessee and 505 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:44,840 Speaker 1: shouldn't worry. Yeah, you know, it's interesting California, New York. 506 00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 1: For those of you who missed the discussion, New York, California, 507 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: and Illinois are the three biggest states in terms of 508 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:55,360 Speaker 1: populations moving, and the biggest gainers are Texas and Florida, 509 00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 1: but also Arizona, North Carolina, Georgia. I'm reading from the list, 510 00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: South Carolin Line, a Utah, and Tennessee all have increasingly 511 00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:07,240 Speaker 1: gained people. In fact, over a million people have moved 512 00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 1: from blue states to red states according to the census 513 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: data in twenty twenty one. When you talk to other 514 00:31:13,080 --> 00:31:16,480 Speaker 1: people in California, Scott, was that a common discussion that 515 00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:20,800 Speaker 1: the reason why you're leaving is because of the politics 516 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 1: as as opposed to in spite of the politics. Absolutely, 517 00:31:26,120 --> 00:31:30,480 Speaker 1: the people that we knew were friends with there, they're 518 00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: sick of it, they can't take it anymore. And we 519 00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: were fortunate enough to be able to buy a house 520 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,880 Speaker 1: here in twenty eighteen. And you know it was it 521 00:31:39,960 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: was because we were looking for somewhere else that wasn't 522 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,960 Speaker 1: so Nuttie, you know. Yeah, Now, I appreciate the call, 523 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: Thanks for thanks for the call. And I would say 524 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: this too. I believe it was Carol Markowitz who came 525 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,400 Speaker 1: on with us last Friday and made a great point 526 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: that I think deserves more attention and encourage you to 527 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,800 Speaker 1: go listen to her because she made the decision herself 528 00:31:58,880 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: to move from New York with her family to Florida. 529 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:05,680 Speaker 1: But she pointed out something really interesting. If the COVID 530 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,480 Speaker 1: restrictions in New York and California and Illinois and all 531 00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 1: the Blue states were actually so safe, wouldn't people be 532 00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 1: moving from Red states to the Blue states. Think about 533 00:32:19,160 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 1: that argument. The market makes rational decisions. If you were 534 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,800 Speaker 1: a parent and you saw, oh, my goodness, New York 535 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 1: and California and Illinois are so much safer for my family, 536 00:32:32,920 --> 00:32:38,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't they be having massively increased populations instead of a 537 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: million people leaving Blue states for Red states. Wouldn't there 538 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 1: be a million people from the Red States going to 539 00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 1: the Blue states saying, my goodness, all this lack of masking, 540 00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:55,320 Speaker 1: all this open air, unrestrained to shopping and dining and schools. 541 00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: I can't countenance it. It's way too dangerous for my family. 542 00:33:00,080 --> 00:33:03,440 Speaker 1: Wouldn't the data be flipped If the Red States were 543 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,080 Speaker 1: not taking COVID seriously enough, there would be a million 544 00:33:08,160 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: people leaving the Red States to go to the Blue 545 00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: States so their families would be safer. Instead, you're seeing 546 00:33:14,680 --> 00:33:17,840 Speaker 1: how much of this is cosmetic theater bs because the 547 00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,479 Speaker 1: people that I believe are moving most frequently are parents, 548 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 1: and those parents are like me. I care more about 549 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: the health and safety of my thirteen, eleven, and seven 550 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:30,160 Speaker 1: year olds than I do anything. If I thought that 551 00:33:30,200 --> 00:33:33,120 Speaker 1: they were in danger because of the policies being implemented 552 00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: by the State of Tennessee, because they weren't wearing masks 553 00:33:36,160 --> 00:33:39,640 Speaker 1: at school, because I could go to the gym without 554 00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 1: having a vaccine, that there were people dropping dead everywhere 555 00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:47,480 Speaker 1: I went, I'd be inclined to move. Not doing that 556 00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,520 Speaker 1: instead everybody My phone is ringing all the time with 557 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,920 Speaker 1: people that I know in New York and California saying, Hey, 558 00:33:53,320 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: what can you tell me about schools in Tennessee or 559 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,560 Speaker 1: Florida or Texas. I'm thinking about moving. The Great migration 560 00:34:01,680 --> 00:34:04,280 Speaker 1: is real. Let me say this too. Why are you 561 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,000 Speaker 1: listening out there in California? Do you know the state 562 00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:12,520 Speaker 1: of California population went up every year since eighteen fifty, 563 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 1: when California became a state, until twenty twenty and twenty 564 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:23,160 Speaker 1: twenty one, where suddenly the California population declined. Think about 565 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: that for a minute. We had a hundred and twenty 566 00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:31,359 Speaker 1: straight years of more than one hundred and twenty whatever 567 00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 1: the math is, from eighteen fifty all the way to 568 00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:36,440 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one hundred and seventy. I think straight years 569 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 1: of population constantly increasing in California. COVID hits population goes 570 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,440 Speaker 1: down in twenty twenty, and it goes down again in 571 00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:50,480 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one net migration people leaving the state as 572 00:34:50,520 --> 00:34:52,759 Speaker 1: opposed to moving to it. I think that's pretty significant. 573 00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,080 Speaker 1: Sean is with us, Sean's still ready to raw. I'm 574 00:34:56,080 --> 00:34:57,960 Speaker 1: not sure where Sean is from. Sean can tell as 575 00:34:57,960 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: Shawn what's up him from. I guess the main central 576 00:35:01,480 --> 00:35:04,200 Speaker 1: main um. I'm a special education teacher of twenty six 577 00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 1: years and I was listening to your segment on the 578 00:35:08,200 --> 00:35:10,560 Speaker 1: mental health issues that we're seeing, and you are right on. 579 00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: We basically, when we do our evaluations now for new 580 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: students and students that are already on the IP, we 581 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:22,840 Speaker 1: are no longer considering anxiety depression as diagnosis because we 582 00:35:22,920 --> 00:35:26,920 Speaker 1: have found the entire school population is there already. I mean, 583 00:35:26,960 --> 00:35:29,880 Speaker 1: that's awful, and you attributed to a large extent because 584 00:35:29,960 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: of the response to COVID in terms of the impact 585 00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:36,520 Speaker 1: of depression and mental health issues on your students. Yes, 586 00:35:36,680 --> 00:35:39,360 Speaker 1: it's and you know we are overloaded. We do what 587 00:35:39,400 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: we can, but you know we have limited resources too. 588 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: You know, we could use at least three times amount 589 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: of social work as we have. And it's just it's tragic. 590 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 1: Are calls to dhhs and tps have gone through the 591 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:58,359 Speaker 1: roof suicide suicide reality and suicide attempts are way way up. 592 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:05,040 Speaker 1: Substance a way up, self medicating, way up. It's just 593 00:36:05,239 --> 00:36:07,960 Speaker 1: it's sad. It's a real sad situation. Well, thank you 594 00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:09,759 Speaker 1: for the work you're doing as a school teacher in Maine. 595 00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: We appreciate you listening and calling. And I know there's 596 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,560 Speaker 1: a lot of school teachers out there nodding their heads 597 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:16,040 Speaker 1: along all over the country. And so why I keep 598 00:36:16,080 --> 00:36:20,719 Speaker 1: focusing on If you look at the data, we have 599 00:36:20,920 --> 00:36:26,680 Speaker 1: lost more years of life from substance abuse issues in 600 00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 1: twenty twenty since the pandemic started in twenty twenty one 601 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: as well then we have from COVID. Right, because the 602 00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:38,280 Speaker 1: average person dying with COVID seventy eight eighty years old. 603 00:36:38,719 --> 00:36:40,880 Speaker 1: If you reach that age, you typically don't have a 604 00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,799 Speaker 1: lot of years of life left. When you look at 605 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:47,200 Speaker 1: the average age of somebody who is overdosing on drugs, 606 00:36:47,760 --> 00:36:49,719 Speaker 1: they tend to be in their twenties, their thirties, or 607 00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:51,839 Speaker 1: their forties. They have their whole lives ahead of them, 608 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: which is why it's so awful. And that's true for 609 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:59,400 Speaker 1: kids too. We've taken away from kids. The worst public 610 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 1: policy of our life was shutting down schools. I'll be 611 00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:05,160 Speaker 1: with you guys tomorrow breaking all this down and more. 612 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,080 Speaker 1: Merry Christmas to all. I'm Clay Travis. Thanks for listening. 613 00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,120 Speaker 1: You're listening to Clay Travis and Buck Sexton on the 614 00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: EIB Network.