WEBVTT - TRY AND STOP ME: THE NEW TRUMP 3RD TERM PLOT - 5.8.25 0:00:04.795 --> 0:00:24.315 Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Try 0:00:24.995 --> 0:00:29.995 and Stop Me. Another plot to evade the twenty second 0:00:30.035 --> 0:00:32.755 Amendment and enable Trump to seek a third term has 0:00:32.795 --> 0:00:37.195 floated up to the surface of the MAGA Latrine. The 0:00:37.315 --> 0:00:41.635 constitutional term limit on presidents, this one goes, is in 0:00:41.675 --> 0:00:49.035 fact unconstitutional because no other federal office is term limited. 0:00:50.075 --> 0:00:53.675 I'll go into depth about this in a moment. But Americans, 0:00:53.875 --> 0:00:58.275 especially displaced Americans in other countries and people here who 0:00:58.355 --> 0:01:02.315 are not really paying attention but think they know the Constitution, 0:01:02.715 --> 0:01:06.035 are not taking any of this seriously. But the twenty 0:01:06.075 --> 0:01:09.355 second Amendment, said an expatriate to me the other day. 0:01:10.115 --> 0:01:15.475 I sighed, I said, Trump will try. He has to. 0:01:16.315 --> 0:01:19.835 He cannot leave office. He will be prosecuted if he 0:01:19.955 --> 0:01:23.555 leaves office. He will be jailed by somebody. If he 0:01:23.675 --> 0:01:29.955 leaves office, he will die in prison if he leaves office, 0:01:30.075 --> 0:01:35.115 Trump twenty twenty eight. The methodology ultimately will be I'm 0:01:35.195 --> 0:01:40.435 doing it, try and stop me, just like everything else. 0:01:41.875 --> 0:01:44.035 And I might add he is still talking about it 0:01:44.715 --> 0:01:49.235 Trump on Sunday. So many people want me to do it. 0:01:49.995 --> 0:01:53.315 I have never had requests so strong as that. But 0:01:53.395 --> 0:01:56.915 it's something that to the best of mine knowledge, you're 0:01:56.915 --> 0:02:00.755 not allowed to do. But there are many people selling 0:02:00.795 --> 0:02:04.315 the twenty twenty eight hat. But this is not something 0:02:04.435 --> 0:02:08.635 I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years. 0:02:12.235 --> 0:02:15.915 It's best of my knowledge, not allowed, not something I'm 0:02:15.995 --> 0:02:18.915 looking to do. The unspoken conclusion of all that is, 0:02:18.955 --> 0:02:22.675 of course, But if you all really want me to, okay, 0:02:23.555 --> 0:02:27.875 I guess I'll make the sacrifice. I'll come off the 0:02:27.875 --> 0:02:31.955 golf course two or three times a week, but I'm 0:02:31.995 --> 0:02:34.115 not going to come up with the plot. I'm not 0:02:34.235 --> 0:02:36.555 going to make it happen. You're going to have to 0:02:36.555 --> 0:02:40.195 do it. And then I'll pretend I don't want to, 0:02:40.675 --> 0:02:45.355 but I'll let you convince me, just to show how 0:02:46.035 --> 0:02:51.515 easy this is, how easy this evil is. You do 0:02:51.635 --> 0:02:55.275 not have to be a constitutional scholar to come up 0:02:55.315 --> 0:02:58.595 with a way for Trump, reluctantly, of course, to evade 0:02:58.675 --> 0:03:01.715 the Constitution. I mean it's not just that you don't 0:03:01.755 --> 0:03:04.275 have to be a constitutional scholar. You don't have to 0:03:04.315 --> 0:03:07.715 have a fourth grade degree to come up with something. 0:03:08.075 --> 0:03:12.315 Give the proverbial monkeys enough time and enough typewriters, and 0:03:12.355 --> 0:03:15.115 they will come up with an idea. No one better 0:03:15.235 --> 0:03:20.275 fits that analogy than Greg Kelly of Newsmax, a bonehead 0:03:20.875 --> 0:03:26.755 so dense that he makes Jesse Waters of Fox look like, well, 0:03:26.755 --> 0:03:30.515 there's so many choices. Greg Kelly makes Jesse Waters of 0:03:30.635 --> 0:03:34.595 Fox look like he's not Jesse Waters. 0:03:35.315 --> 0:03:38.395 That twenty second amendment about not being able to run 0:03:38.435 --> 0:03:42.955 for a third term just might be unconstitutional. Nobody else 0:03:42.995 --> 0:03:45.715 has term limits in the federal government. The Court, the 0:03:45.755 --> 0:03:49.235 Supreme Court. You're there for a lightetime. If you want it, 0:03:49.315 --> 0:03:52.195 you can stay as long as you like. How about 0:03:52.195 --> 0:03:55.635 the United States Senate? Those guys run for reelection. There 0:03:55.675 --> 0:03:59.475 is absolutely no term limits whatsoever. It's a big deal 0:03:59.595 --> 0:04:05.155 to change the constitution, but they did it. However, it 0:04:05.355 --> 0:04:07.955 just might be unconstitutional itself. 0:04:08.155 --> 0:04:10.915 President Trump, it should be looked at. 0:04:11.155 --> 0:04:14.035 This is a way the deep State keeps the presidency 0:04:14.275 --> 0:04:15.635 under their thumb. 0:04:15.915 --> 0:04:17.315 Only two terms. 0:04:17.835 --> 0:04:20.555 Nobody else in federal government other than the vice president, 0:04:20.595 --> 0:04:22.515 I guess is no. I don't know if it applies 0:04:22.515 --> 0:04:26.275 to the vice president anyway. President Trump is not running 0:04:26.275 --> 0:04:28.995 in twenty twenty eight. But this looks to me and 0:04:29.035 --> 0:04:32.835 some other constitutional well some constitutional heavyweights. 0:04:32.875 --> 0:04:35.715 I'm not one. There's something to be done here, and 0:04:35.755 --> 0:04:36.795 it should be explored. 0:04:37.115 --> 0:04:40.915 So there it is a guy coming off is kind 0:04:40.915 --> 0:04:44.515 of rambling moron, just throwing it out there like it 0:04:44.675 --> 0:04:47.835 just occurred to him, rather than somebody handed this to 0:04:47.955 --> 0:04:51.115 him and said, read it in that stupid way of yours. 0:04:51.435 --> 0:04:54.275 Make it seem like it's your idea, the way Trump 0:04:54.315 --> 0:04:57.675 does it. Oh, I'm not trying to seek a third term, 0:04:57.875 --> 0:05:00.595 but everybody else wants me to, So I guess I'm 0:05:00.635 --> 0:05:03.275 going to have to. I don't really know the law. 0:05:03.595 --> 0:05:07.395 We'll just add ask other people as if he has 0:05:07.435 --> 0:05:11.995 had less than four hundred committees working on this in 0:05:12.075 --> 0:05:18.555 secret since the first election, since the first election. There 0:05:18.555 --> 0:05:22.635 it is the newest Trump third term plot. Trump can 0:05:22.715 --> 0:05:27.115 run for a third term because the Constitution is unconstitutional. 0:05:27.475 --> 0:05:30.395 And what phrase could better sum up this last decade 0:05:30.595 --> 0:05:33.435 in terms of the rules and the regulations and the 0:05:33.555 --> 0:05:39.755 laws and the impermeable boundaries and the guardrails. What could 0:05:39.915 --> 0:05:43.755 better sum that up than the concept just expressed by 0:05:43.755 --> 0:05:50.115 Greg Kelly that the constitution is unconstitutional in the olden times, 0:05:50.235 --> 0:05:54.075 say something like that on TV, even on TV like Newsmax, 0:05:54.195 --> 0:05:57.395 say the Constitution is unconstitutional and you would have been 0:05:57.515 --> 0:06:02.555 fired before the show was over. Say it now and 0:06:02.715 --> 0:06:05.835 instead of getting fired, some trump Ist will instead, I 0:06:05.875 --> 0:06:09.355 don't know, start a signal chat or something about your 0:06:09.555 --> 0:06:15.355 newest outline for their biggest scam ever and their most 0:06:15.355 --> 0:06:21.955 evil scam ever. There's one other new and frightening development 0:06:21.995 --> 0:06:26.035 on the eternal Trump plot front. It pertains to the 0:06:26.155 --> 0:06:29.995 arrest of Judge Dougan and the ominous follow up from 0:06:30.075 --> 0:06:34.115 Deucy the Younger of Fox to the White House Press 0:06:34.155 --> 0:06:39.835 Secretary MS Caroline Liar. Deucey asked, would you ever arrest 0:06:39.915 --> 0:06:43.995 a federal judge or even a Supreme Court justice? And 0:06:44.115 --> 0:06:48.075 Caroline Levitt Liar answered, I'd refer you to the DOJ 0:06:48.275 --> 0:06:52.475 for individuals they are looking at, but then concluded, anyone 0:06:52.515 --> 0:06:56.555 who is breaking the law or obstructing federal law enforcement 0:06:56.555 --> 0:07:02.755 officials is putting themselves at risk of being prosecuted. Absolutely so. 0:07:03.395 --> 0:07:07.115 Ultimately that means if Trump does go along with one 0:07:07.115 --> 0:07:10.635 of these many plots to stay on past twenty twenty 0:07:10.675 --> 0:07:14.835 eight and again, whether he's successful or ruinous, or half 0:07:14.875 --> 0:07:18.595 the country is underwater, it doesn't matter. This is not 0:07:18.715 --> 0:07:21.875 about us. This is about him keeping his sad ass 0:07:22.235 --> 0:07:26.395 out of prison. If he tries something and say it 0:07:26.475 --> 0:07:29.235 gets just for the sake of process. As far as 0:07:29.275 --> 0:07:33.475 the Supreme Court and they rule against him, he will 0:07:33.715 --> 0:07:38.595 arrest them. She just said it, because they will simply 0:07:38.635 --> 0:07:42.115 put it in terms of obstructing federal law enforcement officials 0:07:42.355 --> 0:07:47.795 and denying the unique executive authority of the executive which 0:07:47.835 --> 0:07:50.475 is how they have read the Constitution, even though the 0:07:50.515 --> 0:07:54.475 founding fathers, many of whom then became president, did not 0:07:54.675 --> 0:07:57.555 view it that way, viewed it exactly the opposite way. 0:07:58.195 --> 0:08:01.315 But clearly they were right when they wrote what they wrote, 0:08:01.435 --> 0:08:06.715 but wrong in how they applied it. All right, let's 0:08:06.715 --> 0:08:09.875 go back to the beginning. Remember the five main rules 0:08:09.915 --> 0:08:13.355 of Trump's various plots to get around the Constitution and 0:08:13.435 --> 0:08:16.795 not leave office alive. And then I'll go through the 0:08:17.075 --> 0:08:19.795 already extant three plots I haven't mentioned yet. 0:08:20.355 --> 0:08:21.115 Rule one. 0:08:21.475 --> 0:08:26.195 He will try this, he has to. He might be stopped, 0:08:26.795 --> 0:08:31.315 let's hope, so he might die in office another convenient 0:08:31.515 --> 0:08:35.355 exit route. But he will try this. If he is 0:08:35.395 --> 0:08:38.595 alive in the year twenty twenty nine, he will try 0:08:38.635 --> 0:08:41.115 to stay in office, and he may have begun that 0:08:42.235 --> 0:08:46.675 in the election of twenty twenty eight. Main Rule number two, 0:08:47.035 --> 0:08:50.315 he will try multiple routes again. I see at least 0:08:50.395 --> 0:08:54.555 four of them. Now I mentioned the Constitution is unconstitutional 0:08:54.595 --> 0:08:57.755 because there aren't term limits for everybody one that has 0:08:57.875 --> 0:09:02.075 just been invented. Three, he will use surrogates to keep 0:09:02.115 --> 0:09:05.835 his hands clean. The goal to this, of all else, 0:09:05.875 --> 0:09:08.635 other than staying in office, is to make sure that 0:09:08.675 --> 0:09:12.755 as few people as possible really think he's behind this 0:09:13.235 --> 0:09:17.475 plot to erase the Constitution. It must be others. He 0:09:17.555 --> 0:09:21.275 must be responding to the will of the people, even 0:09:21.475 --> 0:09:24.475 if he's the one who has purchased the will of 0:09:24.515 --> 0:09:28.115 those people. But he did say in a slip that 0:09:28.195 --> 0:09:30.635 I bet he never makes again. He did say that 0:09:30.675 --> 0:09:34.035 he knew that there were methods that would allow him 0:09:34.475 --> 0:09:37.555 to stay in office past two terms that others are 0:09:37.635 --> 0:09:44.275 quote studying. This was a major, major accidental confession, and 0:09:44.315 --> 0:09:46.595 again I would not expect him to do it again, 0:09:46.835 --> 0:09:50.235 no matter how crazy he is, and he's lots of crazy. 0:09:51.395 --> 0:09:55.595 Mainline rule number four. His only involvement in this, at 0:09:55.675 --> 0:09:59.795 least publicly, at least superficially, will be to thank everyone 0:10:00.555 --> 0:10:06.995 for making this day necessary and that lawmakers. In other words, 0:10:07.075 --> 0:10:11.915 his Republican prostitutes will change things if he's done enough 0:10:12.195 --> 0:10:15.395 good while in office, meaning if He's made them enough 0:10:15.435 --> 0:10:18.355 money and gotten them enough power. Why is he doing 0:10:18.435 --> 0:10:22.235 this money and power? Why are they supporting him? Power 0:10:22.275 --> 0:10:26.835 and money? Are there any other possibilities? Well, there's power, 0:10:26.875 --> 0:10:33.155 money and money. Power the fifth main rule to consider here. 0:10:34.555 --> 0:10:38.555 If nothing else works, he will ultimately turn to a 0:10:38.555 --> 0:10:42.035 fake emergency to stay in office. I have been questioned 0:10:42.035 --> 0:10:44.755 if he would do a fake emergency to stop the 0:10:44.755 --> 0:10:47.115 midterms if it was clear he's going to lose and 0:10:47.195 --> 0:10:50.915 potentially be impeached and potentially be convicted in the Senate, 0:10:51.075 --> 0:10:53.595 if the midterms by this time next year looks so 0:10:53.755 --> 0:10:56.715 bad that they might lose the Senate and actually get 0:10:56.755 --> 0:11:02.035 past the threshold to convict him, Well, would he stop 0:11:02.075 --> 0:11:04.195 the election? Would he go to that degree? Well, he 0:11:04.195 --> 0:11:06.875 would have to admit to losing in advance, which he 0:11:06.875 --> 0:11:09.995 would never do, and he would essentially be putting himself 0:11:10.155 --> 0:11:14.115 at maximum risk for others, for the congressman who would 0:11:14.155 --> 0:11:17.275 not be elected in that scenario. And he never does 0:11:17.315 --> 0:11:20.235 that because nobody else actually exists in his mind. But 0:11:20.475 --> 0:11:24.235 the fake emergency is there, as it was ready to 0:11:24.275 --> 0:11:28.275 go in the dear Departed days of twenty twenty one. 0:11:28.555 --> 0:11:32.195 On January sixth, for him and him alone. If you 0:11:32.275 --> 0:11:35.555 remember that he is the only person in the world 0:11:35.715 --> 0:11:40.715 down at the base of his feral brain. Down there, 0:11:40.755 --> 0:11:44.235 at the bottom of the reptile spine, there is Donald Trump, 0:11:44.315 --> 0:11:48.195 and the rest of us are just at our best 0:11:48.595 --> 0:11:52.795 extras in his movie. Most of us are just cardboard 0:11:52.795 --> 0:12:00.195 cutouts furniture that can be moved around on rollers. Now 0:12:00.235 --> 0:12:02.435 to the methods. I mentioned that one from Greg Kelly, 0:12:02.475 --> 0:12:05.515 you can't term limited president if nobody else term limited. 0:12:06.235 --> 0:12:09.235 The oldest of the four methods has now been formalized 0:12:09.555 --> 0:12:12.995 and the Bigs, the Trump whore from Tennessee who sits 0:12:13.035 --> 0:12:17.635 in Congress, actually introduced a constitutional amendment to twist the 0:12:17.675 --> 0:12:21.195 meaning of the twenty second Amendment into not a two 0:12:21.435 --> 0:12:25.075 term limit, but a two consecutive term limit. This is 0:12:25.115 --> 0:12:27.635 the oldest of the arguments. They have been putting this 0:12:27.715 --> 0:12:32.395 one out since early twenty twenty three. The Biggs Amendment 0:12:32.475 --> 0:12:35.955 reads The proposed amendment specifies that no person shall be 0:12:35.955 --> 0:12:39.275 elected to the office of the President one more than 0:12:39.635 --> 0:12:44.035 three times two for any additional term after being elected 0:12:44.075 --> 0:12:50.355 to two consecutive terms, or three more than twice after 0:12:50.395 --> 0:12:53.235 having served as president for more than two years of 0:12:53.275 --> 0:12:56.195 a term, to which some other person was elected president. 0:12:56.355 --> 0:12:59.195 For example, if a president died after serving for one 0:12:59.275 --> 0:13:02.035 year and the vice president became president for the remaining 0:13:02.075 --> 0:13:04.835 three years of the term, that person may subsequently be 0:13:04.875 --> 0:13:10.035 elected president no more than two times. In other words, 0:13:10.275 --> 0:13:12.595 this would be an amendment that allows Trump to run 0:13:12.675 --> 0:13:17.475 for a third term, but not Obama or even Bill Clinton. 0:13:19.315 --> 0:13:22.275 Of course, the idea of doing this by a new 0:13:22.435 --> 0:13:26.875 amendment to supersede the twenty second Amendment's term limitation is 0:13:27.115 --> 0:13:32.515 just them playing nice. Somebody somewhere has a sentimental feeling 0:13:33.835 --> 0:13:37.795 for Hamilton and Jefferson and John Adams and everybody else, 0:13:37.875 --> 0:13:41.675 the founding fathers. Again, as I said the other day, 0:13:41.715 --> 0:13:44.635 it was a surprise to me when Trump recognized the 0:13:44.715 --> 0:13:47.355 name John Adams when he was questioned about John Adams. 0:13:47.395 --> 0:13:49.475 And we are a country of laws and not men. 0:13:50.595 --> 0:13:52.435 He knew John Adams because he knew there was a 0:13:52.435 --> 0:13:57.675 picture of him somewhere on the wall. The headline in 0:13:57.835 --> 0:14:02.035 the magazine The American Conservative read Trump twenty twenty eight, 0:14:02.635 --> 0:14:05.595 and the sub had read the second Amendment is an 0:14:05.755 --> 0:14:11.155 arbitrary restraint on presidents who serve non consecutive terms and 0:14:11.235 --> 0:14:16.835 on democracy itself. This is from nearly two years ago, 0:14:19.075 --> 0:14:25.235 the Republicans started quote joking and quote tweaking the Libs 0:14:25.915 --> 0:14:30.315 and quote triggering the left with variations on this idea 0:14:30.315 --> 0:14:33.355 ever since. Trump mused in twenty eighteen that he was 0:14:33.595 --> 0:14:37.715 owed an additional term, a third term, because during his 0:14:37.755 --> 0:14:41.795 first term he had been unfairly preoccupied with defending his 0:14:42.275 --> 0:14:47.595 you know, criminal acts intended to overthrow the democracy. Then 0:14:47.635 --> 0:14:50.475 there was that jokey animation of a Trump twenty twenty 0:14:50.675 --> 0:14:55.595 campaign sign followed by a Trump twenty twenty four campaign sign, 0:14:55.835 --> 0:14:58.995 followed by a Trump twenty twenty eight campaign sign followed 0:14:58.995 --> 0:15:01.835 by a Trump twenty thirty two campaign sign, and on 0:15:01.995 --> 0:15:04.395 and on and on until it would have been a 0:15:04.435 --> 0:15:06.715 one one hundred and two year old Trump running in 0:15:06.755 --> 0:15:09.635 the year twenty forty eight, and nobody was wondering if 0:15:09.675 --> 0:15:12.195 he'd be dead by then and running from a coffin, 0:15:12.435 --> 0:15:17.075 because all they were doing was trying to own the Libs. 0:15:17.715 --> 0:15:24.275 Except that's not what they're doing. He is going to try. 0:15:26.235 --> 0:15:28.595 Let me quote the author of that article in The 0:15:28.635 --> 0:15:32.755 American Conservative. His name is, I swear to Jesus, his 0:15:32.915 --> 0:15:40.555 name is Peter tung It ton gu E tte tungue 0:15:40.995 --> 0:15:48.915 It tung It on Trump Trump by tung It the quote, 0:15:49.715 --> 0:15:53.275 Trump's re emergence as the Republican nominee in twenty twenty 0:15:53.275 --> 0:15:56.475 four is a triumph of democracy. Not only did Trump 0:15:56.515 --> 0:15:59.355 secure the nomination following his defeat in twenty twenty a 0:15:59.475 --> 0:16:02.515 rather incredible feat in and of itself, but did so 0:16:02.595 --> 0:16:06.635 in spite of every obstacle the mainstream media, the Republican establishment, 0:16:06.795 --> 0:16:11.395 and the law fair apparatus have put in his way. Well, 0:16:11.435 --> 0:16:12.915 you can look at it that way, or you can 0:16:12.955 --> 0:16:17.355 point out that the leading opponents to his candidacy inside 0:16:17.395 --> 0:16:21.875 the Republican Party were Ron DeSantis an idiot, and Nicky Haley, 0:16:22.235 --> 0:16:29.155 an even bigger idiot. Continuing from mister tung Its tonguing 0:16:29.355 --> 0:16:32.835 of Trump, Trump, however, makes an even more forceful ethical 0:16:32.915 --> 0:16:35.755 argument against the twenty second Amendment and for its repeal. 0:16:35.915 --> 0:16:38.555 If a man who once was president returns after a 0:16:38.635 --> 0:16:41.355 series of years to stand again for the office and 0:16:41.475 --> 0:16:45.595 proved so popular as to earn a second non consecutive term, 0:16:46.155 --> 0:16:49.235 as Trump seems bound to when they wrote this, to 0:16:49.395 --> 0:16:52.515 deny him the right to run for a second consecutive 0:16:52.595 --> 0:16:59.755 term cuts against basic fair play. Unquote ah, the familiar 0:17:00.195 --> 0:17:04.635 no fair constitutional argument. I think that was Alexander Hamill 0:17:04.755 --> 0:17:06.435 to new thought that one up, or maybe it was 0:17:06.595 --> 0:17:11.675 George Hamilton. Quote. If by twenty twenty eight, voters feel 0:17:11.755 --> 0:17:14.795 Trump has done a poor job, they can pick another candidate. 0:17:15.115 --> 0:17:17.275 But if they feel he has delivered on his promises, 0:17:17.395 --> 0:17:21.395 why should they be denied the freedom to choose him 0:17:21.435 --> 0:17:28.395 once more? You see where this is going. Trump overcame obstacles, 0:17:28.875 --> 0:17:32.875 or if you prefer, Trump overcame mediocrity, and he weaponized 0:17:32.995 --> 0:17:37.075 stupidity and hatred on his own behalf. Therefore the constitution 0:17:37.235 --> 0:17:41.475 doesn't apply to him, especially them pesky term limits. In 0:17:41.515 --> 0:17:46.955 that twenty second Amendment, Republican primary voters chose him, writes 0:17:46.955 --> 0:17:50.355 The American Conservative, because they damn well felt like it, 0:17:51.235 --> 0:17:55.315 and they count. If you want to choose Obama or 0:17:55.355 --> 0:18:00.835 Bill Clinton, you can't because write something fast, write something 0:18:00.835 --> 0:18:05.795 why they can't the twenty second Amendment two full terms 0:18:06.075 --> 0:18:08.435 or one and a half if you're serving out another 0:18:08.555 --> 0:18:13.275 president's term quote sounds reasonable enough, especially in light of 0:18:13.435 --> 0:18:16.915 FDR's hold on the office. Yet those who supported the 0:18:16.955 --> 0:18:19.675 amendment more than seventy years ago could not have foreseen 0:18:19.715 --> 0:18:23.475 the prospect of a one term president who lost the office, 0:18:23.475 --> 0:18:27.595 but who later regained it in a subsequent election. The 0:18:27.635 --> 0:18:31.275 author then immediately turns to that time that that exact 0:18:31.275 --> 0:18:35.115 thing happened Grover Cleveland all the way back in eighteen 0:18:35.195 --> 0:18:37.955 ninety two. No one could have ever seen this happening, 0:18:38.075 --> 0:18:41.555 except I'm going to mention that it already had happened 0:18:41.595 --> 0:18:46.635 when they passed this amendment. The author leaves out that's 0:18:46.635 --> 0:18:49.955 mister Tungue it that while he may see this as 0:18:49.995 --> 0:18:54.115 something from prehistory Grover Cleveland, that is, when dinosaurs still 0:18:54.115 --> 0:18:56.955 had the vote or something. The twenty second Amendment is 0:18:57.035 --> 0:19:01.435 surprisingly modern, and yet it reaches back into our past 0:19:01.755 --> 0:19:05.155 so far that when it was introduced was by a 0:19:05.195 --> 0:19:09.155 Michigan congressman named Earl Mitchner and Earl Mitchener. When he 0:19:09.235 --> 0:19:12.635 was sixteen years old and preparing to go to University 0:19:12.635 --> 0:19:17.595 of Michigan law school, Grover Cleveland was elected President of 0:19:17.635 --> 0:19:21.515 the United States. The guy who wrote the twenty second 0:19:21.555 --> 0:19:26.955 Amendment was already an adult or a near adult during 0:19:27.275 --> 0:19:33.195 Grover Cleveland's non consecutive terms, so in Congressman Mitchener's lifetime, 0:19:34.275 --> 0:19:37.315 he had not only seen Cleveland re elected after four 0:19:37.395 --> 0:19:40.515 years in the wilderness as an ex president, regaining the 0:19:40.555 --> 0:19:44.115 office four years later. But he'd also seen former President 0:19:44.235 --> 0:19:47.955 Theodore Roosevelt one and three quarters terms try for a 0:19:48.115 --> 0:19:53.315 third non consecutive term in nineteen twelve, And he'd seen 0:19:53.355 --> 0:19:56.915 the Republican bid to draft the former President Calvin Coolidge 0:19:56.955 --> 0:20:00.475 to run for a third non consecutive term instead of 0:20:00.515 --> 0:20:03.115 President Hoover in nineteen thirty two. And he had seen 0:20:03.635 --> 0:20:06.395 the former President who Hoover try for a nomination for 0:20:06.435 --> 0:20:09.675 a second non consecutive term in nineteen thirty six and 0:20:09.715 --> 0:20:13.195 again in nineteen forty oh And he Mischner, the author 0:20:13.275 --> 0:20:16.155 of the twenty second Amendment, had seen Franklin Roosevelt run 0:20:16.195 --> 0:20:18.275 for a third term and get it, and run for 0:20:18.315 --> 0:20:21.235 a fourth term and then get it. And he had 0:20:21.235 --> 0:20:24.595 seen William Jennings Bryan get the Democratic nomination in eighteen 0:20:24.675 --> 0:20:27.395 ninety six and nineteen hundred and, having not had enough, 0:20:27.555 --> 0:20:29.955 run for it again in nineteen oh eight and began 0:20:30.235 --> 0:20:35.635 to try for a fourth time at it in nineteen twelve. Mitchner, 0:20:35.795 --> 0:20:41.315 the congressman behind presidential term limits, only saw all of 0:20:41.355 --> 0:20:46.155 that unfold in one lifetime. But nobody, according to mister Tungatt, 0:20:46.435 --> 0:20:51.275 could have seen Trump serving two non consecutive terms, nobody 0:20:51.355 --> 0:20:55.075 except the guy who wrote the rule against three terms 0:20:55.635 --> 0:20:58.675 if you're non consecutive or any other kind of president. 0:21:01.515 --> 0:21:04.075 Once again, if they do this wrong, it would not apply. 0:21:04.275 --> 0:21:07.475 Just to suddenly Barack Obama, who will be sixty seven 0:21:07.595 --> 0:21:10.755 in the year twenty twenty eight, and Bill Clinton. Bill Clinton, 0:21:10.795 --> 0:21:14.515 who is still and would presumably still be two months 0:21:14.555 --> 0:21:18.075 younger than Trump, they would be eligible to run for 0:21:18.115 --> 0:21:23.955 their own third terms. Not so fast. What the trumpists 0:21:24.035 --> 0:21:27.635 are setting up in this scenario is a Supreme Court 0:21:27.675 --> 0:21:32.715 ruling that only presidents who've served two non consecutive terms 0:21:32.955 --> 0:21:37.435 can seek a third, as if that made any possible difference. 0:21:40.355 --> 0:21:45.275 Lisa Needham at the site Public Notice connects the final 0:21:45.315 --> 0:21:47.355 dots here in case you think this is just some 0:21:47.435 --> 0:21:50.635 guy named tung It with the kind of life you 0:21:50.715 --> 0:21:54.235 must have had if your name was tung It, expressing 0:21:54.275 --> 0:21:58.475 the frustrations of his impossible existence by writing this bullshit, 0:21:58.795 --> 0:22:01.995 it's not. He wrote it in The American Conservative, which, 0:22:02.035 --> 0:22:06.795 as Lisa Needam notes, is a quote partner en quote 0:22:07.395 --> 0:22:15.195 of Project twenty twenty five. So that's plot one. Plot 0:22:15.355 --> 0:22:22.595 two from Joel A. Ready of the Cornerstone Law firm 0:22:22.755 --> 0:22:26.355 and his site, which also features pieces on security deposit 0:22:26.475 --> 0:22:30.435 laws in Pennsylvania and courtroom movies to watch. This spring 0:22:31.235 --> 0:22:33.635 thinks you don't have to have an amendment or any 0:22:33.635 --> 0:22:37.435 alteration of the twenty second Amendment because quote the twenty 0:22:37.515 --> 0:22:42.075 second Amendment doesn't say what you think it says. This 0:22:42.195 --> 0:22:45.595 piece offers not only ways to ignore the twenty second Amendment, 0:22:45.715 --> 0:22:48.035 like the it doesn't say you can't serve a third 0:22:48.075 --> 0:22:50.395 term and only says you can't be elected to a 0:22:50.435 --> 0:22:55.595 third term, but it provides additional workarounds like electing an 0:22:55.715 --> 0:22:58.755 entirely different Republican ticket in twenty twenty eight and making 0:22:58.795 --> 0:23:01.915 Trump Speaker of the House and then getting the new 0:23:01.995 --> 0:23:06.755 electees to both resign immediately, which would make Speaker of 0:23:06.755 --> 0:23:13.435 the House Trump president without violating the constitution. Plot three. 0:23:14.355 --> 0:23:16.475 And the purists here will say this is actually just 0:23:16.555 --> 0:23:18.755 plot two. A. I like to think of it as 0:23:18.755 --> 0:23:21.515 a third, separate plot because it's important to remember that 0:23:21.595 --> 0:23:24.675 as stupid as all this sounds, this is deadly serious. 0:23:24.995 --> 0:23:29.795 This is the end of democracy, in its embryonic stage, 0:23:31.235 --> 0:23:35.915 in its fetal heartbeat stage, in its personhood stage. One 0:23:35.955 --> 0:23:41.835 of these infants in the womb will come out like 0:23:41.995 --> 0:23:49.595 Rosemary's Baby. Plot number three, the one minute presidency of JD. Vance. JD. 0:23:49.755 --> 0:23:54.115 Vance runs with some clown as his vice president, somebody 0:23:54.275 --> 0:23:58.275 who pays enough money. I mean, pick them, you're your 0:23:58.355 --> 0:24:03.755 choice here. My favorite would be Mike Lindell. The ticket 0:24:04.675 --> 0:24:09.075 Advance and Lindell gets elected and the Republicans retain the 0:24:09.115 --> 0:24:11.275 Senate and the House in twenty twenty eight, and the 0:24:11.395 --> 0:24:15.115 vance inaugural address on January twenty, twenty twenty nine consists 0:24:15.155 --> 0:24:19.835 of my fellow Americans. Vice President Lindell has resigned. I 0:24:19.955 --> 0:24:23.835 hereby advice the House and Senate, I am nominating as 0:24:24.155 --> 0:24:28.595 the new Vice president, Donald J. Trump. The Senate and 0:24:28.635 --> 0:24:32.395 the House convene same day, maybe because this wasn't planned 0:24:32.395 --> 0:24:36.235 in advance, and they each approved Trump as vice president. Whereupon, 0:24:36.355 --> 0:24:39.995 the moment that's sign sealed and delivered, Vance resigns as president. 0:24:41.755 --> 0:24:46.515 Trump accedes to the presidency having never been elected. And 0:24:46.555 --> 0:24:48.955 of course we could never actually have this happen in 0:24:48.955 --> 0:24:51.275 real life. We could never have a president who wasn't 0:24:51.395 --> 0:24:59.315 at least elected vice president. Oh right, Gerald Ford, Now 0:24:59.355 --> 0:25:01.475 there is a problem with this one. The last sentence 0:25:01.515 --> 0:25:04.875 of the twelfth Amendment is about the Electoral College, and 0:25:04.955 --> 0:25:09.475 the twelfth last sentence reads, quote, no person constitutionally ineligible 0:25:09.515 --> 0:25:12.795 to the office of president shall be eligible to that 0:25:12.915 --> 0:25:16.555 of Vice President of the United States. Well, they are 0:25:16.595 --> 0:25:19.115 already looking at that in the phony Bologne argument from 0:25:19.115 --> 0:25:24.835 the fascists. Here is that phrase constitutionally ineligible. The word constitutionally. 0:25:25.315 --> 0:25:29.395 They say that covers only the presidential eligibility terms in 0:25:29.435 --> 0:25:34.195 the Constitution, not the logical ones. And those terms are 0:25:34.315 --> 0:25:38.435 natural born citizen at least thirty five years old, resident 0:25:38.475 --> 0:25:42.475 for at least fourteen years. And what's even better from 0:25:42.515 --> 0:25:46.475 their perspective is they are quoting an NYU law professor 0:25:46.515 --> 0:25:51.155 who pointed all this out that the terms ineligible constitutionally 0:25:51.155 --> 0:25:57.075 ineligible only mean those three things citizenship, age, residency. The 0:25:57.155 --> 0:25:59.515 guy who pointed this out did so in the year 0:25:59.555 --> 0:26:03.395 two thousand and three because he was trying to get 0:26:04.035 --> 0:26:07.635 a former president to run for vice president, and that 0:26:07.675 --> 0:26:11.715 former president he wanted to be the vice president was 0:26:11.715 --> 0:26:17.075 Bill Clinton. The fourth one I've mentioned, the new one 0:26:17.275 --> 0:26:21.675 up is down, left is right, fiction is truth, The 0:26:21.715 --> 0:26:29.555 Constitution is itself unconstitutional. I'm sorry I've enjoyed parts of this. 0:26:31.075 --> 0:26:35.475 There is something to be said in unraveling how they 0:26:35.475 --> 0:26:40.195 have packaged this, how they have gotten around America to 0:26:40.355 --> 0:26:46.715 create new America. They have not been stopped. This has 0:26:46.755 --> 0:26:50.395 been going since twenty fifteen, with varying degrees of success. 0:26:50.755 --> 0:26:54.475 But this is the ultimate test, and they are bound 0:26:54.635 --> 0:26:59.835 to try it, in Trump's case, to literally die trying 0:26:59.875 --> 0:27:03.195 if need be. I will again quote Tim Snyder, and 0:27:03.235 --> 0:27:04.715 I have been quoting him so long that he he 0:27:04.795 --> 0:27:06.675 used to be at Yale and now he's at the 0:27:06.755 --> 0:27:09.675 University of Toronto because he got out while the getting 0:27:09.715 --> 0:27:16.995 out was good. Quote Triump is the classic dictatorial position. 0:27:18.195 --> 0:27:22.795 He needs to die in bed holding all executive power 0:27:23.035 --> 0:27:26.035 to stay out of prison. This means that he will 0:27:26.115 --> 0:27:31.315 do whatever he can to gain power, and once in power, 0:27:31.635 --> 0:27:35.875 will do all that he can to never let it go. 0:27:37.035 --> 0:27:41.795 This is a basic incentive structure which underlies everything else. 0:27:42.355 --> 0:27:50.195 It is entirely inconsistent with democracy. So if somebody tells 0:27:50.235 --> 0:27:53.515 you the fascists are joking about Trump in twenty twenty eight, 0:27:54.195 --> 0:27:56.635 or if somebody tells you, or if you believe the 0:27:56.675 --> 0:27:59.915 twenty second Amendment flat out precludes this, what are you 0:27:59.995 --> 0:28:05.315 all talking about? Just remember the only one on the right, 0:28:05.675 --> 0:28:10.955 the only one of the undead pretending to not be 0:28:11.115 --> 0:28:14.795 doing this right now, pretending to not be trying to 0:28:14.835 --> 0:28:18.515 get Trump a third term, or we don't even know 0:28:18.555 --> 0:28:21.755 what their reasons would be for further terms thereafter. The 0:28:21.875 --> 0:28:25.395 only one pretending to not be doing this, the only 0:28:25.435 --> 0:28:28.635 one pretending not to be in on the plot, the 0:28:28.675 --> 0:28:33.595 greatest crime in American history. The only one pretending not 0:28:33.715 --> 0:28:41.555 to be involved is Trump itself, and Trump itself denying 0:28:41.675 --> 0:28:46.395 this is an essential ingredient to the plot. Trump here 0:28:46.555 --> 0:28:50.435 is Julius Caesar refusing the crown, or Richard the Third 0:28:50.595 --> 0:28:56.875 refusing office. And remember what Tim Snyder says, and remember 0:28:56.875 --> 0:29:01.235 what I say, and God help you, remember what Greg 0:29:01.315 --> 0:29:06.555 Kelly says, and remember this above all else. The Trump 0:29:06.955 --> 0:29:13.155 political baseline mantra is the Hitler political baseline. Mantra is 0:29:13.195 --> 0:29:18.395 the Mao political baseline. Mantra is the pole Pot political 0:29:18.555 --> 0:29:26.115 baseline mantra quote, I'm going to do it, Try and 0:29:26.355 --> 0:29:54.995 stop me. The bad news among Thursday's headlines is Trump's nosferatu. 0:29:55.035 --> 0:29:58.515 Stephen Miller is still trying to ignore and bypass the courts. 0:29:58.555 --> 0:30:02.555 The good news is Miller is clearly too scared to 0:30:02.715 --> 0:30:05.755 just go ahead and do it. He's trying to create bullshit, 0:30:05.955 --> 0:30:09.955 legit sounding reasons to allow him to bypass the courts 0:30:10.035 --> 0:30:13.955 and yet not go to prison for contempt. As a result, 0:30:14.795 --> 0:30:19.875 the government has now invoked the state secrets privilege in 0:30:19.955 --> 0:30:24.075 the Kilmar Abrego Garcia abduction case. It clearly it is crap, 0:30:24.755 --> 0:30:27.555 but they've been voked it anyway, and Judge Zennis has 0:30:27.555 --> 0:30:30.955 only given them until Monday to file twenty five pages 0:30:31.115 --> 0:30:33.715 or less on what the f they think they are doing, 0:30:34.235 --> 0:30:37.515 and only until a week from tomorrow to prepare for 0:30:37.555 --> 0:30:42.035 an in person hearing about what the f they are doing. Clearly, 0:30:42.475 --> 0:30:44.475 since the most they've actually been able to dig up 0:30:44.475 --> 0:30:47.795 on this wrongly renditioned man that their own DOJ admitted 0:30:47.875 --> 0:30:50.995 was wrongly renditioned, so they fired the guy who admitted 0:30:51.075 --> 0:30:54.435 he was wrongly renditioned was the possibility that he was 0:30:54.475 --> 0:30:59.355 a driver for undocumented workers going from one state to another. 0:31:00.275 --> 0:31:04.315 There is no chance there are any state secrets involved 0:31:04.315 --> 0:31:07.155 in this case, and the point of this is the 0:31:07.155 --> 0:31:11.395 point of all Trump's court cases, to stall, to fill 0:31:11.475 --> 0:31:14.235 up the calendar with hearing after hearing and then appeal 0:31:14.315 --> 0:31:17.715 after appeal so they can run out the clock. Presumably 0:31:17.755 --> 0:31:21.475 both on the orders to return Abrego Garcia and all 0:31:21.515 --> 0:31:24.875 the possible contempt charges piling up against Stephen Miller and 0:31:24.955 --> 0:31:28.355 the leaders at Ice and hopefully that witch Christy Nome 0:31:28.715 --> 0:31:32.835 now with eight new action dress up outfits. As usual, 0:31:33.195 --> 0:31:35.995 when faced with the six foot thick walls of the 0:31:36.035 --> 0:31:40.675 actual remaining laws and actual remaining American principles, Trump and 0:31:40.715 --> 0:31:45.155 his minion and especially this Eichmann level nerd monster Miller, 0:31:45.435 --> 0:31:48.315 are simply stepping on the gas and headed right for 0:31:48.355 --> 0:31:51.875 the walls. They have not only installed these new hurdles 0:31:51.875 --> 0:31:55.035 in the Abrego Garcia case, but they are now kidnapping 0:31:55.115 --> 0:31:59.835 and renditioning immigrants to Libya at least they want to 0:31:59.835 --> 0:32:03.395 to a hellhole of a prison in a country in 0:32:03.435 --> 0:32:06.675 a state of full on civil war. They are basically 0:32:06.955 --> 0:32:09.915 sending people who, if nothing else, have a right to 0:32:10.115 --> 0:32:15.755 do process into a dangerous prison inside a dangerous country 0:32:15.955 --> 0:32:19.795 where there is every chance they can get killed inside 0:32:19.795 --> 0:32:24.035 the prison or outside the prison. They also apparently wanted 0:32:24.035 --> 0:32:26.915 to send other people they have kidnapped off our streets 0:32:27.475 --> 0:32:33.475 to Ukraine. This while the memo is out confirming reporting 0:32:33.515 --> 0:32:38.035 that America's intelligence agencies, now run by trumpists, had concluded 0:32:38.075 --> 0:32:40.875 that the entire excuse for all of this from kilmar 0:32:40.955 --> 0:32:45.595 Garcia through the Libya airliners is crap that there is 0:32:45.675 --> 0:32:49.675 no basis for President Scrooge McDuck to invoke the Alien 0:32:49.795 --> 0:32:53.995 Enemies Act because of the Venezuelan based gang trend Aragua, 0:32:54.755 --> 0:32:57.515 which must really piss Trump off because he had just 0:32:57.595 --> 0:33:03.355 managed to somehow learn to say the Intel community's conclusion, 0:33:03.715 --> 0:33:07.635 the Venezuelan govern does not control that gang, and the 0:33:07.635 --> 0:33:11.395 country's dictator Maduro also does not control that gang. Thus, 0:33:11.435 --> 0:33:14.835 any gang members here are not part of some kind 0:33:14.875 --> 0:33:17.755 of invasion, and thus they are not subject to the 0:33:17.795 --> 0:33:20.875 Alien Enemies Act. Thus, if the laws and the courts 0:33:20.995 --> 0:33:24.475 still have any purpose or influence here, Trump has to 0:33:24.515 --> 0:33:28.315 bring them all back and either let them go or 0:33:28.355 --> 0:33:30.555 give them the same hearings they would have gotten under 0:33:30.595 --> 0:33:36.155 Biden and every preceding president. This also raises the stakes 0:33:36.155 --> 0:33:39.755 for Miller and increases the chances that Judge Zennis or 0:33:39.875 --> 0:33:43.115 Judge Boseburg in the other case, may actually take the 0:33:43.155 --> 0:33:46.355 step of putting one of these bastards behind bars, at 0:33:46.435 --> 0:33:50.195 least briefly, for their continuing and now escalating contempt of court. 0:33:51.275 --> 0:33:55.395 Before the memo confirming all this was declassified and released. 0:33:55.715 --> 0:33:59.035 The New York Times reported the conclusions in the memo 0:33:59.515 --> 0:34:03.475 in March, and Trump's response, naturally, was to threaten prosecution, 0:34:04.755 --> 0:34:07.835 not of Stephen Miller, nor of Tom Homan, nor of 0:34:07.915 --> 0:34:10.835 Christy Nome, but of those who leaked it and those 0:34:10.875 --> 0:34:14.955 who printed it. Miller, Holman, Gnome, and of course Trump 0:34:15.035 --> 0:34:18.995 are Unamerican bastards, and if we do not stop them now, 0:34:19.035 --> 0:34:22.515 we will soon be deprived of the ability to do so. 0:34:23.355 --> 0:34:26.675 The only alien enemies here right now are the members 0:34:26.995 --> 0:34:33.155 and supporters of this rogue and immoral Trump dictatorship. Naturally, 0:34:33.195 --> 0:34:36.795 the Trump response to the whole thing, promote Stephen Miller 0:34:37.035 --> 0:34:42.355 to National Security Advisor, hasn't happened yet expected to within months, 0:34:43.315 --> 0:34:46.235 just as the response in trump Land to his asinine 0:34:46.355 --> 0:34:50.075 idea of an Anschluss in Canada and something akin to 0:34:50.395 --> 0:34:55.315 Mussolini invading Ethiopia in Greenland is for Trump to have 0:34:55.395 --> 0:34:59.955 the brain dead Director of National subpar Intelligence, Tulsey skunk 0:35:00.155 --> 0:35:04.315 Streak Gabbard, issued what is called a collection emphasis message 0:35:04.755 --> 0:35:08.195 to the chiefs of the various intel services to ramp 0:35:08.315 --> 0:35:14.035 up spying on Greenland, among other things. This will cue 0:35:14.235 --> 0:35:17.675 a search of both Greenland and Denmark for people there 0:35:17.995 --> 0:35:22.795 who want Trump to invade Greenland and annex it should 0:35:22.835 --> 0:35:25.635 be a pretty long search producing a pretty short list. 0:35:26.155 --> 0:35:28.795 But at underscores, we may wake up one morning to 0:35:28.875 --> 0:35:33.075 find out that overnight Trump has invaded Greenland and given 0:35:33.195 --> 0:35:35.715 the knee jerk reaction of so many in this country 0:35:35.715 --> 0:35:38.555 who view the world as a video game. I don't 0:35:38.595 --> 0:35:41.395 know what happens after that, besides a lot of the 0:35:41.435 --> 0:35:46.115 same blood and guts, flag waving and accusations of disloyalty 0:35:46.315 --> 0:35:51.235 that followed Bush attacking Iraq, and once again, like Iraq, 0:35:51.315 --> 0:35:54.235 this invasion would be in the interests of private industry. 0:35:54.275 --> 0:35:56.835 And no, we didn't go into Iraq for oil. We 0:35:56.955 --> 0:36:00.075 went into Iraq so we could have a war in Iraq, 0:36:00.275 --> 0:36:02.955 so we could use in Iraq all the weapons made 0:36:02.955 --> 0:36:05.995 by the Halliburtons of this country and employ all the 0:36:06.195 --> 0:36:10.875 Eric Prince mercenaries. Now we would be deploying to Greenland, 0:36:11.275 --> 0:36:16.475 maybe Denmark in order to get elon Musk his rare earths. 0:36:17.235 --> 0:36:21.115 Donald Trump does not know what rare earths are. He 0:36:21.235 --> 0:36:26.515 barely knows where Earth is. This is the same Musk 0:36:26.595 --> 0:36:30.195 for whom Trump is now pressuring countries facing tariffs to 0:36:30.355 --> 0:36:35.315 adopt Starlink, per the Washington Post, to bribe their way 0:36:35.395 --> 0:36:38.515 out of tariffs that way. This is the same Musk 0:36:38.555 --> 0:36:42.595 who reportedly just told a Milken conference that he expects 0:36:42.635 --> 0:36:47.675 a SpaceX mission to get to Mars next year and 0:36:47.835 --> 0:36:51.395 maybe a manned mission to Mars by twenty twenty eight. 0:36:51.715 --> 0:36:54.515 Cynics would say it is safe to assume Musk is 0:36:54.595 --> 0:36:56.995 high as a kite all the time, and he may 0:36:57.035 --> 0:37:01.635 be high as a kite and be the somewhat perturbed 0:37:01.715 --> 0:37:05.915 victim of that reported botched penile implant. But even if 0:37:06.035 --> 0:37:10.635 neither is true, that is exactly the way Elon Musk acts. 0:37:12.515 --> 0:37:16.235 In any event, this is not the first time. It 0:37:16.395 --> 0:37:21.435 is of special note that Musk keeps making these Mars predictions, 0:37:21.675 --> 0:37:25.035 and so far there is not one indication he's taken 0:37:25.075 --> 0:37:29.355 even the preliminary steps to make any of them come true. 0:37:29.395 --> 0:37:33.515 He made the next year prediction in March. He made 0:37:33.555 --> 0:37:36.875 it in December twenty twenty when he said the unmanned 0:37:36.915 --> 0:37:41.195 mission would occur within six years. In fact, quote, if 0:37:41.235 --> 0:37:45.115 we get lucky, maybe four. He made the prediction in 0:37:45.155 --> 0:37:49.675 September twenty sixteen, adding the competing people on Mars quote 0:37:50.195 --> 0:37:53.355 might kind of be in the ten year range. He 0:37:53.435 --> 0:37:56.955 also predicted a million humans on Mars by twenty fifty, 0:37:57.115 --> 0:38:00.435 and I'll just note for perspective, twenty fifty is now 0:38:00.515 --> 0:38:05.715 only as far ahead as two thousand is behind, and 0:38:05.755 --> 0:38:09.315 that nowhere did he predict that those million humans on 0:38:09.395 --> 0:38:14.235 Mars by twenty fifty would still be alive. Maybe that's 0:38:14.315 --> 0:38:19.835 Trump's next location for renditioning immigrants. So crazy Musk has 0:38:19.875 --> 0:38:23.955 already blown through his first prediction. If we're lucky, that 0:38:23.995 --> 0:38:27.075 would have been December twenty twenty four. As it is, 0:38:27.235 --> 0:38:31.715 he sent nothing to Mars. The fastest possible trip from 0:38:31.795 --> 0:38:35.515 here to Mars is seven months in length. More likely 0:38:35.555 --> 0:38:39.555 it's eight nine, ten months. Give him the benefit of 0:38:39.595 --> 0:38:43.395 the doubt. Here. The unmanned mission he's talking about must 0:38:43.435 --> 0:38:47.355 take off by next year, by next May, to get 0:38:47.355 --> 0:38:51.835 there by twenty twenty six, a year from now. It 0:38:51.875 --> 0:38:56.235 has to take off right now. Musk can't launch a 0:38:56.355 --> 0:39:00.875 cyber truck that your average American can't peel apart with 0:39:00.955 --> 0:39:05.395 their bare hands. But yeah, let's attack Greenland so this 0:39:05.435 --> 0:39:09.715 guy can get some rare earths. And if we're lucky, 0:39:10.115 --> 0:39:13.195 Trump will think we are going to Greenland to rescue 0:39:13.235 --> 0:39:17.515 the seventies band Rare Earth, and that they'll perform. I 0:39:17.715 --> 0:39:20.915 just want to celebrate and their cover of get Ready 0:39:20.995 --> 0:39:24.955 at the White House while he and Musk dance, or 0:39:24.995 --> 0:39:29.875 more correctly, while he and Musk make those spasmodic, embarrassing 0:39:29.955 --> 0:39:33.275 body movements. That is as close as either one of 0:39:33.315 --> 0:39:48.515 them will ever get to dancing. Meanwhile, Generalissimo Donaldo Trumpo 0:39:49.275 --> 0:39:55.555 is still nuts. There is a kind of brilliance in 0:39:55.595 --> 0:39:59.355 the SoundBite I am about to play for you asked 0:39:59.555 --> 0:40:05.075 about his blasphemous image in which he depicted himself as pope. 0:40:05.915 --> 0:40:10.475 He posted that image himself, he goes in a matter 0:40:10.515 --> 0:40:15.235 of seconds from A Catholics can't take a joke to B. 0:40:15.755 --> 0:40:19.675 There's no problem here with Catholics. It's fake news. To C, 0:40:20.235 --> 0:40:23.595 I didn't do it. To D, maybe it was AI. 0:40:24.235 --> 0:40:27.675 To E, I know nothing about this. To F, I 0:40:28.075 --> 0:40:30.955 just saw it for the first time. To G even 0:40:30.995 --> 0:40:33.835 though I know nothing about it and I had nothing 0:40:33.875 --> 0:40:36.715 to do with it, and I just saw it. I 0:40:36.755 --> 0:40:42.075 know Millenia liked it. This is magnificent in a way, 0:40:43.395 --> 0:40:46.995 completely insane, but magnificent. 0:40:47.635 --> 0:40:50.675 Catholics, we're not so happy about the image of you 0:40:50.875 --> 0:40:51.955 looking like the Pope. 0:40:52.275 --> 0:40:52.915 Oh, I see. 0:40:53.075 --> 0:40:55.755 You mean they can't take a joke. You don't mean 0:40:55.755 --> 0:40:58.195 the Catholics, you mean the fake news media, not. 0:40:58.235 --> 0:40:59.555 The Catholics loved it. 0:40:59.635 --> 0:41:01.755 I had nothing to do with it. 0:41:01.835 --> 0:41:03.835 Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the 0:41:03.875 --> 0:41:06.835 Pope and put it out on the internet. That's not 0:41:06.955 --> 0:41:08.635 me that did it. I have no idea where it 0:41:08.675 --> 0:41:12.515 came from. Maybe it was Ai, but I know nothing 0:41:12.555 --> 0:41:17.035 about it. I just saw it last evening. Actually, my 0:41:17.075 --> 0:41:19.755 wife thought it was cute. She said, isn't that nice? 0:41:20.115 --> 0:41:23.595 It makes your head spin. Of course Trump's head is 0:41:23.635 --> 0:41:31.475 already spinning like an exorcist. And Trump confirmed he met 0:41:31.475 --> 0:41:36.675 with the insurrectionist Henry Tarrio with that metro sexual beard, 0:41:37.235 --> 0:41:40.955 and he told Tario to thank the January sixth insurrectionists. 0:41:42.075 --> 0:41:44.395 And then there is the insanity of him wanting to 0:41:44.435 --> 0:41:47.675 reopen Alcatraz, closed in nineteen sixty three because it was 0:41:47.715 --> 0:41:52.355 no longer viable, which followed by six hours Channel twenty 0:41:52.355 --> 0:41:55.995 six the PBS station in Miami playing the movie Escape 0:41:56.275 --> 0:42:01.555 from Alcatraz, and all of a sudden, Trump believes what 0:42:01.675 --> 0:42:07.515 he sees on PBS. Are there any films about Just 0:42:07.555 --> 0:42:12.275 to pick a topic, at random presidential suicide. Oh right, 0:42:12.355 --> 0:42:16.875 the Salvador Allende documentary. Hey, Channel twenty six, can you 0:42:16.955 --> 0:42:21.835 run the Salvador Allende documentary? And he wants one hundred 0:42:21.835 --> 0:42:24.995 percent tariffs on foreign made films and at least technically 0:42:25.035 --> 0:42:28.195 all films are foreign made, and John Voight gave him 0:42:28.195 --> 0:42:32.195 that terrify idea, and Trump doesn't realize. John Voight's career 0:42:32.235 --> 0:42:35.395 peaked when he played Milo Minderbinder in Catch twenty two 0:42:35.635 --> 0:42:40.195 in nineteen frickin seventy. The process is always the same. 0:42:40.395 --> 0:42:43.035 Tell Trump he's great, Tell Trump a lie he wants 0:42:43.075 --> 0:42:45.395 people to believe, and he will then do whatever you 0:42:45.475 --> 0:42:49.835 suggest next. Gee, mister president, I'm John Voight. You're great. 0:42:50.555 --> 0:42:56.435 Ever seen the Salvador Allende documentary? And of course the 0:42:56.595 --> 0:43:00.475 likeliest outcome to all of that will be no American 0:43:00.555 --> 0:43:03.635 made films get booked in any other country in the world, 0:43:04.195 --> 0:43:08.435 and prices here go up like egg prices went up, 0:43:08.435 --> 0:43:11.555 though he lied and said they went down. And then 0:43:11.595 --> 0:43:13.875 there was the part about rationing the dolls so your 0:43:13.955 --> 0:43:17.875 child only gets three and his military parade and the 0:43:17.995 --> 0:43:24.435 cancer causing wind mills in his mind. 0:43:25.915 --> 0:43:36.395 Hey, wait a minute, oh, Nancy, like the gas that 0:43:36.635 --> 0:43:41.715 costs two dollars, like eighty three percent of eggs, never 0:43:41.955 --> 0:43:43.955 ending or beginning. 0:43:43.915 --> 0:43:48.235 Like a tariff on your legs, like a prison on 0:43:48.275 --> 0:43:52.555 an island that was closed in sixty three, Like a 0:43:52.715 --> 0:43:57.595 ninety dollars sir, charge on any movie you might see, 0:43:57.995 --> 0:44:02.395 like rationing the doll so your child only gets three 0:44:03.195 --> 0:44:08.875 mill tarily parading, but it's really just forummy, like the 0:44:09.035 --> 0:44:17.355 bullshit that you find in the windmills of Trump's mine. Buh, 0:44:19.235 --> 0:44:27.755 thank you, Nancy Faust. I have to confess I'm not 0:44:27.835 --> 0:44:32.035 exactly sure how I turned into Bernie Sanders while singing that, 0:44:32.235 --> 0:44:36.195 but there you have it. By the way, Nancy Faust 0:44:36.275 --> 0:44:40.315 is returning this Sunday as the organist at the Chicago 0:44:40.395 --> 0:44:44.875 White Sox game, the job she performed brilliantly for the 0:44:44.915 --> 0:44:49.315 White Sox for forty one years. Bravo. And incidentally, Nancy 0:44:49.315 --> 0:44:52.395 Faust immediately becomes the best player on the White Sox. 0:44:53.835 --> 0:44:56.195 Also of interest, here, a Minnesota woman calls a five 0:44:56.275 --> 0:44:59.355 year old the N word, and the lunatic right rallies 0:44:59.395 --> 0:45:04.835 to defend the woman and raises a million dollars for her. 0:45:05.915 --> 0:45:08.115 I don't know what we can do with all these people, 0:45:08.275 --> 0:45:11.955 except maybe sequester them in Wyoming or somewhere for their 0:45:11.995 --> 0:45:19.795 own safety. Also, I've seen a ghost. That's next. This 0:45:19.875 --> 0:45:22.955 is Countdown, the the the. 0:45:22.955 --> 0:45:24.795 The do Do. 0:45:27.435 --> 0:45:37.795 Do Do Do Doom. Let's go take two. 0:45:40.595 --> 0:45:45.395 This is Countdown with Keith Oberman, my crazy friend. 0:46:05.755 --> 0:46:08.715 Still ahead. On this edition of Countdown. I saw ghost, 0:46:10.035 --> 0:46:13.515 I mean really a ghost. Not only that, but I 0:46:13.555 --> 0:46:17.195 recognized him immediately, and I knew why he was there 0:46:17.195 --> 0:46:21.515 with me. And there was our old commercial radio station 0:46:21.675 --> 0:46:25.555 run by Cornhill students in Anthaca, New York. And I 0:46:25.595 --> 0:46:27.835 knew why he was there. He wanted me to save 0:46:27.915 --> 0:46:31.435 the station. And on top of everything else, the ghost 0:46:31.475 --> 0:46:34.955 was laughing at me things I promised not to tell 0:46:35.755 --> 0:46:40.955 about ghosts. Next first, believe it or not, there's still 0:46:40.995 --> 0:46:43.995 more new idiots talk about the roundup of the mis grants, morons, 0:46:44.075 --> 0:46:48.075 undunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute the latest other worst 0:46:48.395 --> 0:46:57.275 persons in the world, the bronze worst Shiloh Hendrix on 0:46:57.315 --> 0:47:01.075 a playground in Minnesota. This white garbage saw a five 0:47:01.155 --> 0:47:03.715 year old black child trying to steal from her bag. 0:47:04.795 --> 0:47:06.915 Is not a good thing. I am not endorsing anybody 0:47:06.955 --> 0:47:10.955 stealing from anybody's bag. But Shiloh Hendrix did what anybody 0:47:10.995 --> 0:47:14.915 would do in this situation, anybody who's a racist scumbag 0:47:15.195 --> 0:47:17.755 who shares a name with a battle started and lost 0:47:17.835 --> 0:47:21.195 by the racist Confederate trader during the Civil War. She 0:47:21.315 --> 0:47:25.675 called the five year old boy the N word. When 0:47:25.715 --> 0:47:30.115 a Somali American man confronted Shiloh Hendrix, she called him 0:47:30.115 --> 0:47:34.035 the N word. Two there's video. It went viral, and 0:47:34.115 --> 0:47:38.195 the obvious then happened. Right wing groups raised seven hundred 0:47:38.235 --> 0:47:43.915 thousand dollars for her. The goal is a million. How 0:47:44.915 --> 0:47:49.795 because as the almost equally clownish Timpool you know, Beanie baby, 0:47:50.435 --> 0:47:52.995 the I'm bald and I'm not proud of it guy, 0:47:54.115 --> 0:47:57.595 how he put it quote, she's making money. This sends 0:47:57.635 --> 0:48:01.515 a message to other white people stop taking racial abuse. 0:48:01.915 --> 0:48:05.395 White guilt is largely over because in the world of 0:48:05.435 --> 0:48:09.475 Tim Poole, who is also white garbage, it's the racist 0:48:09.555 --> 0:48:13.635 woman named Shiloh from Minnesota who's the real victim here 0:48:13.875 --> 0:48:18.715 because she's so oppressed because she's white. Of course, she 0:48:18.915 --> 0:48:21.875 blurted out the N word because in her mind, she's 0:48:21.915 --> 0:48:24.795 tired of all these N words who are oppressing her 0:48:24.875 --> 0:48:27.675 by denying her the right to call them the N word. 0:48:30.475 --> 0:48:33.555 I'm going to quote from the ken Burn Civil War documentary. Now, 0:48:34.635 --> 0:48:39.275 Shiloh is a Hebrew word meaning peace. I wonder if 0:48:39.315 --> 0:48:42.915 anybody's told Shiloh Hendrix that fact, and if so, what 0:48:43.115 --> 0:48:47.955 she called them or what she calls Hebrews. The answer 0:48:47.995 --> 0:48:50.395 to the latter question may be provided by our runner up, 0:48:50.515 --> 0:48:56.155 Laura Lumer. Shiloh might use the phrase blood and soil 0:48:56.315 --> 0:48:59.955 to them Hebrews, as did this Trump whisper and school 0:48:59.955 --> 0:49:03.155 shooting denier, the one who has all that plastic melting 0:49:03.195 --> 0:49:08.515 on her face. Lumer. Lumer best described as it is 0:49:08.555 --> 0:49:13.075 writing about Shri Thanadar, the Indian American congressman from Michigan, who, 0:49:13.155 --> 0:49:15.115 as I mentioned the other day, has introduced the seven 0:49:15.195 --> 0:49:18.475 articles of impeachment against Trump. It's not enough for Lumer 0:49:18.515 --> 0:49:21.275 and the others to lash out against the impeachment. They 0:49:21.315 --> 0:49:26.115 have to attack the congressman and particularly his ethnicity, and 0:49:26.195 --> 0:49:31.755 to pretend that their attack, their racism, is actually somebody else's. 0:49:31.995 --> 0:49:36.155 And they're just giving these unnamed others a platform like 0:49:36.195 --> 0:49:39.035 Trump talking about a third term. I don't want this, 0:49:39.275 --> 0:49:44.715 they want it. This is Lumer quote. They are embarrassed 0:49:44.715 --> 0:49:48.275 by Shri Thanadar, So maybe he'll get a primary. I 0:49:48.355 --> 0:49:51.955 don't know. I mean, if he's such a heavy immigrant community, 0:49:52.155 --> 0:49:55.395 it'd be nice to have an American there, like a 0:49:55.475 --> 0:49:59.635 real blood and soil American. But if we can't get 0:49:59.675 --> 0:50:03.515 a real, true blood soil American to represent that district, 0:50:03.595 --> 0:50:05.275 and it has to be an immigrant, there's got to 0:50:05.315 --> 0:50:08.155 be at least a patriotic, pro Maga pro Trump, patriot 0:50:08.195 --> 0:50:13.155 immigrant who lives in that country. There's a terrible hypocrisy 0:50:13.155 --> 0:50:15.675 here on top of all the hate and the stupidity. 0:50:15.835 --> 0:50:20.435 Laura Lumer identifies as Jewish, and she dropped two blood 0:50:20.515 --> 0:50:23.955 and soil references in that quote. Blood and soil, of course, 0:50:24.035 --> 0:50:26.595 is not just a Nazi rallying cry. It was one 0:50:26.635 --> 0:50:30.875 of the first Nazi rallying cries from the twenties to 0:50:30.955 --> 0:50:36.875 evoke pure blood and arians and all those things. Lumer 0:50:36.995 --> 0:50:40.835 thinks Thanador is not all those things the Nazis and 0:50:41.035 --> 0:50:45.075 most of today's Trumpers actually believe Lumer is not. But 0:50:45.195 --> 0:50:48.955 she hasn't found that out about her quote, friends yet, 0:50:49.275 --> 0:50:53.035 because she thinks the current twenties are somehow different from 0:50:53.075 --> 0:50:56.555 the previous twenties. Oh boy, is she in't for a surprise, 0:50:57.555 --> 0:51:00.755 but the winner the worst. How do you top these 0:51:00.875 --> 0:51:07.835 racists stupidity? Christopher lan Deputy Secretary of State, the guy 0:51:07.875 --> 0:51:13.515 who theoretically is dumber than Marco Rubio. Apparently even others 0:51:13.555 --> 0:51:16.795 in the Trump Government of the Undead realize that the 0:51:16.835 --> 0:51:20.675 Deputy Secretary of State, Christopher Landau is a moron. He 0:51:20.755 --> 0:51:27.195 tweeted this alongside a photo of a thermostat. As Deputy 0:51:27.235 --> 0:51:29.915 Secretary of State, the number two official in our state department, 0:51:29.915 --> 0:51:32.155 You'd think I'd at least be free to set the 0:51:32.195 --> 0:51:34.955 temperature in my own office, where I spend some twelve 0:51:35.035 --> 0:51:38.795 hours a day. Well, you'd be wrong. The thermostat is 0:51:38.915 --> 0:51:41.715 encased in a locked container so that I have to 0:51:41.755 --> 0:51:44.675 call someone if it's too hot or cold. Seems like 0:51:44.795 --> 0:51:48.075 I should be trusted with this awesome responsibility, but I'll 0:51:48.115 --> 0:51:50.955 guess I'll have to work my way up to that level. 0:51:52.275 --> 0:51:57.635 Ps He adds. I asked the state official photographer who 0:51:57.675 --> 0:52:00.395 is in my office for another event to take this picture, 0:52:00.555 --> 0:52:03.115 because I'm also not allowed to bring a cell phone 0:52:03.395 --> 0:52:09.195 or camera into my own home office. If you want 0:52:09.235 --> 0:52:13.595 to blame somebody for the lack of trust, for the 0:52:13.675 --> 0:52:16.995 need to lock up the thermostat. Well, you've got to 0:52:17.075 --> 0:52:21.515 keep the thermostat locked, because otherwise Elon Musk will steal 0:52:21.595 --> 0:52:24.275 it and try to build a rocket out of it 0:52:24.835 --> 0:52:26.835 or attach it to his car and charge you twelve 0:52:26.875 --> 0:52:29.675 thousand dollars for it. If you want to blame somebody 0:52:29.675 --> 0:52:34.275 about the cell phone and the camera, Christopher, go talk 0:52:34.355 --> 0:52:39.115 to Mike Waltz, Pete the keg heg Seth, get him 0:52:39.115 --> 0:52:43.195 on a signal chat and ask them about this, or 0:52:43.275 --> 0:52:47.635 Rubio your boss. But it's interesting because Landou is a 0:52:47.835 --> 0:52:51.795 fascinating case. It may be just about him. It's possible 0:52:51.835 --> 0:52:54.635 that in the other offices they don't lock up the thermostats, 0:52:54.755 --> 0:53:00.395 lock up your thermostats. Landau's in town. He clerked for 0:53:00.515 --> 0:53:06.315 Clarence Thomas and Scalia, but he went to Harvard, which, 0:53:06.355 --> 0:53:08.555 as you know, his boss Trump is trying to put 0:53:08.555 --> 0:53:11.035 out of business. So every day he should go into 0:53:11.035 --> 0:53:14.355 that office of his and check not his thermostat, but 0:53:14.395 --> 0:53:18.355 should check whether his bosses hate him that day or 0:53:18.515 --> 0:53:21.995 love him that day. They must issue a calendar or 0:53:22.035 --> 0:53:26.835 something along with instructions on who gets to touch the 0:53:26.875 --> 0:53:31.635 Holy thermist out of Antioch and who, like Chris Landau, 0:53:32.235 --> 0:53:38.955 does not Christopher, he runs with scissors Landau two days 0:53:39.755 --> 0:53:58.395 other worse Porthidden. Go to the number one story on 0:53:58.435 --> 0:54:02.475 the countdown and my favorite topic me and I once 0:54:02.555 --> 0:54:06.715 saw a ghost. I have never talked about this before, 0:54:06.795 --> 0:54:11.675 not publicly anyway, but I once saw a ghost. And 0:54:11.715 --> 0:54:14.035 it wasn't one of these vague things where you're not 0:54:14.075 --> 0:54:16.355 sure what you're seeing or who you're seeing. I know 0:54:16.435 --> 0:54:20.355 exactly who the ghost was. I will get to this story, 0:54:20.395 --> 0:54:25.155 but first, the setup requires a cassette tape I found 0:54:25.835 --> 0:54:30.075 that dates from February nineteen seventy seven. And the damnedest 0:54:30.075 --> 0:54:32.275 thing about this cassette tape is, if you were familiar 0:54:32.275 --> 0:54:34.435 at all with cassette tapes, they used to have little 0:54:35.075 --> 0:54:37.755 pinholes at the top, little pieces of plastic that you 0:54:37.755 --> 0:54:41.075 were supposed to break out or break off or punch 0:54:41.235 --> 0:54:44.075 through after you were done recording on the tape so 0:54:44.075 --> 0:54:46.995 you could not accidentally record over the tape. And when 0:54:47.035 --> 0:54:49.875 I found this cassette the other day, these little things 0:54:49.915 --> 0:54:53.595 that you had to make not intact anymore, were still intact. 0:54:53.835 --> 0:54:57.595 So this tape has survived not only intact since nineteen 0:54:57.595 --> 0:55:00.915 seventy seven, but it has not been accidentally erased even 0:55:00.955 --> 0:55:04.995 though I left it eligible to be accidentally erased every 0:55:05.075 --> 0:55:09.035 day since February nineteen seventy seven, and it contains, among 0:55:09.075 --> 0:55:12.755 other things, the voice of the ghost. The setup here 0:55:12.915 --> 0:55:17.235 is The radio station involved is called WINR in Binghamton, 0:55:17.275 --> 0:55:20.675 New York. The man you will hear calling himself Tom 0:55:20.755 --> 0:55:24.195 Daniels is actually named Glenn Cornelius. He called himself Tom 0:55:24.275 --> 0:55:28.035 Daniels because that's what the jingle package said, and they 0:55:28.075 --> 0:55:31.275 had a variety of Tom Daniels's over the years at 0:55:31.395 --> 0:55:35.395 WINR in Binghamton. He was our friend Glenn who worked 0:55:35.435 --> 0:55:38.475 at WVBR, the Cornell radio station. I have mentioned m 0:55:38.515 --> 0:55:42.475 teen thousand times on this podcast. He was going to 0:55:42.515 --> 0:55:45.035 be the program director and tried to become the general 0:55:45.075 --> 0:55:47.795 manager of the station. And he was my original frenemy 0:55:48.195 --> 0:55:51.715 best friends. Helped me out in a thousand different situations 0:55:51.795 --> 0:55:54.435 as I did he and we once had a fist 0:55:54.435 --> 0:55:59.035 fight over a girl. He won the girl, and of 0:55:59.115 --> 0:56:02.075 course that turned out to be the best thing he 0:56:02.155 --> 0:56:05.235 ever did for me, but that's another story for another time. 0:56:05.275 --> 0:56:08.795 As they say so, Glenn is portraying Tom Daniels, and 0:56:08.875 --> 0:56:11.835 one weekend in the winter of nineteen seventy seven. He 0:56:11.955 --> 0:56:16.315 brought his friends me, Peter shack now and Pat Lyons 0:56:16.315 --> 0:56:19.555 that's now Patrick J. Lyons, executive Foreign Desk editor of 0:56:19.555 --> 0:56:22.075 The New York Times. He brought the three of us 0:56:22.075 --> 0:56:24.635 down there with him to see a real radio station, 0:56:24.795 --> 0:56:26.795 and he put Peter and I on the air, Peter 0:56:26.915 --> 0:56:30.435 doing a newscast and me doing the sportscast. The only 0:56:30.515 --> 0:56:32.995 part of this before I play this tape that requires 0:56:32.995 --> 0:56:36.755 a setup is the explanation of the vitamin B twelve joke. 0:56:37.275 --> 0:56:40.595 Peter used to introduce me on the newscast at WVBR, 0:56:40.835 --> 0:56:43.635 and he used to ask me a trivia question every Tuesday, 0:56:43.795 --> 0:56:46.795 and got so frustrated in my always getting the answers 0:56:46.835 --> 0:56:49.795 to his trivia questions that he changed the trivia question 0:56:49.835 --> 0:56:52.555 from a sports trivia question to a question, the answer 0:56:52.595 --> 0:56:56.955 to which was vitamin B twelve. And I didn't get it, 0:56:57.435 --> 0:57:00.235 and it became a running joke inside the studios of 0:57:00.395 --> 0:57:04.955 WVBR for quite a while. That's the setup. And then 0:57:04.995 --> 0:57:09.155 there is the additional detail that Glenn Cornelius portraying Tom 0:57:09.235 --> 0:57:12.355 Daniels on this next tape was the ghost I. 0:57:12.315 --> 0:57:15.035 Saw sixteen minutes after one o'clock in the morning, on 0:57:15.035 --> 0:57:18.075 a Sunday, which is now February twentieth, nineteen hundred and 0:57:18.075 --> 0:57:20.395 seventy seven. My name is Tom Daniels, and I have 0:57:20.475 --> 0:57:22.995 a question for you. If I was as old as 0:57:23.115 --> 0:57:25.315 Joe Namath's football number, how old would I be? 0:57:25.875 --> 0:57:27.675 Well, of course I would be twelve. 0:57:27.755 --> 0:57:32.355 And on that note, we'll have the sports. 0:57:33.235 --> 0:57:34.955 Here's Wyon r Sports. 0:57:35.515 --> 0:57:37.955 The Oaklona's have sol relief pitcher Paul Lindblad to the 0:57:37.995 --> 0:57:41.115 Texas Rangers, despite Baseball Commissioner Bowie kwans edict that no 0:57:41.195 --> 0:57:45.795 such players sales be made without his approval. Oakland owner 0:57:45.875 --> 0:57:48.675 Charlie Finley, who likes to le jingle very much never 0:57:48.675 --> 0:57:50.955 one of Kewan's best friends, says he'll ignore hwes ruly 0:57:51.155 --> 0:57:52.675 and may just sell ace pitcher. 0:57:52.435 --> 0:57:52.915 Vital Blue too. 0:57:52.995 --> 0:57:56.115 Montreal expos on the sports scoreboard. Last night in the NBA, 0:57:56.155 --> 0:57:57.675 the New York Nets came from behind to beat the 0:57:57.675 --> 0:58:00.155 New York Knicks eighty six eighty five. It was Cleveland 0:58:00.235 --> 0:58:02.515 ninety two Phoenix eighty eight, twenty three points and eighteen 0:58:02.555 --> 0:58:05.275 rebounds for Jim Jones. Mac Calvin, signed as a free 0:58:05.315 --> 0:58:07.195 agent the other day by Denver, led the Nuggets to 0:58:07.195 --> 0:58:09.475 a one thirty three one twenty four win over Portland. 0:58:09.635 --> 0:58:12.315 Some other scores Washington one oz five, Detroit ninety five, 0:58:12.435 --> 0:58:14.915 Buffalo one o three, Seattle one hundred and Kansas City 0:58:14.955 --> 0:58:16.675 one fifteen Houston one oh nine. 0:58:16.955 --> 0:58:18.115 In college hoop action. 0:58:18.035 --> 0:58:20.955 Anthony Roberts Pty in sixty six points as Oral Roberts 0:58:20.995 --> 0:58:23.995 beat North Carolina A and T won ten to sixty four, 0:58:24.275 --> 0:58:27.435 which Aitaw State ruined. Marquette coach Al McGuire's last home game, 0:58:27.435 --> 0:58:29.795 beating the Warriors seventy five to sixty four. And some 0:58:29.875 --> 0:58:33.755 other scores Kentucky ninety, LSU seventy six, Oregon toppling UCLA 0:58:33.835 --> 0:58:36.195 sixty six six AS fifty five rather and it was 0:58:36.195 --> 0:58:39.075 Michigan eighty nine Minnesota seventy on the ice. Last night 0:58:39.075 --> 0:58:41.115 in the NHL, Rene ro Bear scored a late goal 0:58:41.235 --> 0:58:43.515 lead Buffalo over Detroit two to one. The New York 0:58:43.555 --> 0:58:45.955 Islanders smashed the Rangers by the score of five two. 0:58:46.235 --> 0:58:49.355 Yvon Cornwaia scored two goals, including number four hundred, as 0:58:49.355 --> 0:58:50.275 Montreal beat. 0:58:50.035 --> 0:58:50.995 Philly five to two. 0:58:51.355 --> 0:58:53.675 Rookie Bernie Federko he has a funny name, scored his 0:58:53.715 --> 0:58:55.835 second hat trick in only two weeks of play as 0:58:55.875 --> 0:58:59.155 Saint Louis toppled Washington Will four to one, and Derek Sanderson, 0:58:59.195 --> 0:59:01.155 back in the NHL with Vancouver, had a goal and 0:59:01.195 --> 0:59:03.555 an assist tonight as the Canucks beat at Lanta five 0:59:03.595 --> 0:59:06.755 to oneis Pittsburgh in Toronto six to sixth tie in 0:59:06.795 --> 0:59:10.115 Minnesota Beach Chicago six to two, and that's wyn r 0:59:10.275 --> 0:59:18.155 sports great sister. 0:59:19.475 --> 0:59:22.475 So I will come back to that cassette from February 0:59:22.595 --> 0:59:24.715 nineteen seventy seven later on to give you a few 0:59:24.715 --> 0:59:27.475 more laughs. But now to the little story about how 0:59:28.075 --> 0:59:34.995 I saw a ghost and it was Glenn. As I said, frenemies, 0:59:36.715 --> 0:59:40.075 I think the last conversation we actually had sometime in 0:59:40.115 --> 0:59:43.315 the nineteen eighties was about the fact that I graduated 0:59:43.355 --> 0:59:46.675 on time, beating odds of probably five million to one, 0:59:46.915 --> 0:59:50.995 and he did not graduate on time. That was probably 0:59:50.995 --> 0:59:54.915 an even bet. But nevertheless, at the actual graduation ceremony 0:59:54.915 --> 0:59:57.395 at Cornell with me and my cap and gown drinking 0:59:57.475 --> 0:59:59.395 champagne at ten o'clock in the morning with all the 0:59:59.435 --> 1:00:02.515 other graduates and just happy to get out by hook 1:00:02.595 --> 1:00:06.835 or by crook, Glenn looked up towards me and had 1:00:06.835 --> 1:00:10.515 the forlorn look of sadness that I can't quite describe, 1:00:10.795 --> 1:00:14.035 and I may have given him a popular three thousand 1:00:14.075 --> 1:00:18.995 year old Anglo Saxon gesture involving fingers. Later on, in 1:00:19.035 --> 1:00:21.195 what I think was the last conversation we ever had, 1:00:21.675 --> 1:00:24.155 he said he deserved that, and I said, yes, you did. 1:00:24.795 --> 1:00:27.075 On the other hand, I shouldn't have done it. And 1:00:27.115 --> 1:00:30.195 he said, no, you probably shouldn't have. And that was it. 1:00:32.315 --> 1:00:36.515 That would have been somewhere in the eighties. Early in 1:00:36.595 --> 1:00:40.835 nineteen ninety six, Glenn, who was then thirty nine years old, 1:00:41.115 --> 1:00:44.715 died suddenly while he was giving a lecture about radio 1:00:44.835 --> 1:00:48.115 at Katz Radio in New York. He had a hidden 1:00:48.195 --> 1:00:51.715 heart defect that could not have been identified, certainly not then, 1:00:51.835 --> 1:00:54.635 except in the autopsy. It killed him before he hit 1:00:54.675 --> 1:00:57.875 the floor. And so the rest of us, Pat and 1:00:57.915 --> 1:01:00.555 Peter and all the rest of us from that era 1:01:00.715 --> 1:01:06.115 at Cornell at WVBR reunited recreating a film. And as always, 1:01:06.115 --> 1:01:07.675 when you get to recreate a film, it is not 1:01:07.795 --> 1:01:09.395 the one you want. It is, in fact the one 1:01:09.395 --> 1:01:12.435 you want the least. And it was the big Chill. 1:01:13.755 --> 1:01:17.115 And so we said goodbye to Glenn. And I don't 1:01:17.155 --> 1:01:19.315 think a month has passed, maybe not a week has 1:01:19.355 --> 1:01:24.555 passed without my thinking of him. And then there was 1:01:24.595 --> 1:01:28.675 the time I saw him after he died. In nineteen 1:01:28.755 --> 1:01:30.995 ninety seven, Dan Patrick and I wrote a book about 1:01:30.995 --> 1:01:35.275 sports Center called Surprisingly Enough, This is Sports Center, and 1:01:36.115 --> 1:01:40.595 simultaneous with its publication, accidentally with its publication, I was 1:01:40.635 --> 1:01:42.955 invited to come back to Cornell for the first time 1:01:42.955 --> 1:01:47.755 in fifteen years to give the graduation party, the annual 1:01:47.875 --> 1:01:53.955 graduation party speech at the graduation dinner of the Cornell 1:01:54.155 --> 1:01:57.555 Daily Sun newspaper, which I had worked for for one 1:01:57.635 --> 1:02:00.675 day in nineteen seventy five before. They said, we have 1:02:00.755 --> 1:02:02.835 to choose between us or the radio station that you 1:02:02.875 --> 1:02:04.675 also want to work for, and I said, well that 1:02:04.675 --> 1:02:08.595 that's damn stupid, especially since the Cornell station. The radio 1:02:08.635 --> 1:02:11.995 station is just kind of a slight walk up the hill, 1:02:12.235 --> 1:02:15.835 but the one to the Cornell Daily Sun newspaper is 1:02:15.915 --> 1:02:18.275 then down a twenty minute hill and then back up 1:02:18.275 --> 1:02:21.555 a twenty minute hill. I'm going into radio in any event. 1:02:21.555 --> 1:02:23.115 They asked me to come up and give a speech, 1:02:23.515 --> 1:02:27.355 and I arrived by car. I said, send a car 1:02:27.395 --> 1:02:30.555 for me, and I brought my stuff with me and 1:02:30.635 --> 1:02:34.515 got into the Cornell Hotel and checked in and had 1:02:34.555 --> 1:02:36.995 some time before my speech that night, and I went 1:02:36.995 --> 1:02:42.195 over to WVDR, where I had not been to see anybody, 1:02:42.395 --> 1:02:44.915 not since Glenn's death, in fact, not since nineteen eighty two. 1:02:44.995 --> 1:02:47.595 It had been fifteen years since i'd been there. Now 1:02:47.635 --> 1:02:50.515 I had this book, I had just done the Boston 1:02:50.515 --> 1:02:52.675 Market commercial, which made me a lot of money, and 1:02:52.795 --> 1:02:55.035 I was and I think it was already out. Then 1:02:55.075 --> 1:02:58.115 I was going to leave ESPN to go somewhere else 1:02:58.115 --> 1:02:59.995 with even more money, and I was beginning to run 1:03:00.075 --> 1:03:03.755 into tax problems. And that sounds dull and conceded, but 1:03:04.035 --> 1:03:07.835 there's a elevance to the story. So I get it 1:03:08.235 --> 1:03:12.635 to the radio station at WVBR to twenty seven Linden Avenue. 1:03:13.755 --> 1:03:16.435 It had not been cleaned since my last appearance there 1:03:16.435 --> 1:03:19.475 in nineteen eighty two, and probably had not in fact 1:03:19.475 --> 1:03:22.275 been cleaned since my first appearance there in nineteen seventy five. 1:03:22.315 --> 1:03:24.275 And I buzzed my way in and the first person 1:03:24.355 --> 1:03:26.875 I saw was a man named Phil Shapiro, who was 1:03:26.915 --> 1:03:30.355 a salesman who had come to WVBR in about nineteen 1:03:30.395 --> 1:03:34.035 sixty seven and never left. He managed to make a living, 1:03:34.435 --> 1:03:38.395 just barely a living, selling time on a nominally college 1:03:38.475 --> 1:03:41.315 radio station that had advertising. I won't go into the 1:03:41.355 --> 1:03:45.075 explanation as to why we had advertising. But Phil Shapiro 1:03:45.355 --> 1:03:48.955 stopped and stared at me, and he said, what are 1:03:48.995 --> 1:03:51.395 you doing here? He also did the folk show every 1:03:51.435 --> 1:03:54.715 Sunday night, the Folk Music Live Festival, show Bound for 1:03:54.755 --> 1:03:58.555 Glory from the law school at Cornell, and he had 1:03:58.555 --> 1:04:00.395 one of those voices, and he did a lot of 1:04:00.435 --> 1:04:03.915 commercials and he just had enough money to get by. 1:04:04.155 --> 1:04:06.195 And he said, what are you doing here? And I said, 1:04:06.235 --> 1:04:07.035 I used to work here? 1:04:07.075 --> 1:04:07.475 Remember? 1:04:07.635 --> 1:04:10.115 He said, no, of course, of course, of course we 1:04:10.195 --> 1:04:13.115 remember you. What are you doing here now? I said, well, 1:04:13.155 --> 1:04:15.075 I'm up here to give the speech to the Daily 1:04:15.195 --> 1:04:17.835 Sun people. And you know that's of course I'm going 1:04:17.875 --> 1:04:19.835 to come over here now. I walked around campus for 1:04:19.835 --> 1:04:21.875 about five minutes and here I am, just like the 1:04:21.915 --> 1:04:23.955 old days. He goes, no, why are you here today? 1:04:24.555 --> 1:04:26.915 And I said, I'm not getting your point. He said, 1:04:27.315 --> 1:04:31.155 we are holding a Board of director's emergency meeting in 1:04:31.435 --> 1:04:34.075 one hour, and we're going to shut the radio station 1:04:34.195 --> 1:04:38.475 down for the summer. And I said, what, You can't 1:04:38.515 --> 1:04:40.555 shut the radio station down for the summer. It'll never 1:04:40.595 --> 1:04:43.355 go back on the air, He said, I know, I said, well, 1:04:43.395 --> 1:04:46.715 what happened. Well, now we go to the explanation as 1:04:46.715 --> 1:04:49.795 to what happened. They ran out of money, but they 1:04:49.795 --> 1:04:51.835 didn't run out of money. The place was still making 1:04:51.875 --> 1:04:54.675 advertising money enough to make a profit every year, although 1:04:54.675 --> 1:04:56.915 we couldn't keep the profit because of the hybrid nature 1:04:57.115 --> 1:05:00.275 of the radio. You don't care about this part. They 1:05:00.315 --> 1:05:03.435 had borrowed so much money in the eighties for various 1:05:03.475 --> 1:05:06.195 capital projects that the the debt was killing the radio 1:05:06.315 --> 1:05:08.995 station and the only solution they could come up with 1:05:09.275 --> 1:05:11.995 was to take the radio station off the air for 1:05:12.155 --> 1:05:15.235 the summer and then bring it back in the fall 1:05:15.235 --> 1:05:18.715 when the students came back and there were more listeners 1:05:18.715 --> 1:05:21.875 and therefore more profits to make, or some profits to make, 1:05:21.875 --> 1:05:23.755 and they had a chance of paying off the debt. 1:05:24.875 --> 1:05:26.755 And we all knew that if the radio station went 1:05:26.795 --> 1:05:28.275 off the air, it would never go back on the air. 1:05:28.795 --> 1:05:31.675 They would sell the license to somebody else, carve up 1:05:31.715 --> 1:05:36.835 the money, take some sort of AM carrier, current radio signal, 1:05:36.955 --> 1:05:42.395 and reduce this factory of broadcasters that everybody that you 1:05:42.435 --> 1:05:45.515 could think of, whoever went to Cornell and went into broadcasting, 1:05:45.915 --> 1:05:49.675 went through. They're going to take it off the air, 1:05:50.275 --> 1:05:53.595 the place that I owed my entire career to, and 1:05:53.675 --> 1:05:57.155 I sat down and listened to Phil, and he said, 1:05:57.235 --> 1:05:59.195 let me get the general manager. And they brought out 1:05:59.195 --> 1:06:02.115 this fella from the class of ninety eight, and we 1:06:02.195 --> 1:06:06.875 sat down in the business office. And the business office 1:06:07.115 --> 1:06:10.235 was really just big enough for four large desks, and 1:06:10.275 --> 1:06:12.795 the promotion director had a desk, and I believe the 1:06:12.915 --> 1:06:15.955 music director may have had a desk, and the program 1:06:15.995 --> 1:06:18.155 director had a desk over in the other corner. The 1:06:18.275 --> 1:06:21.355 fourth corner was saved for the copying machine. That's how 1:06:21.395 --> 1:06:27.355 small a business office it was. That far corner, essentially 1:06:27.395 --> 1:06:30.835 the upper left hand corner of this office had been 1:06:30.875 --> 1:06:34.795 Glenn's desk, and every time, for probably two years, even 1:06:34.835 --> 1:06:37.635 before he was program director of the radio station, when 1:06:37.635 --> 1:06:40.315 I would go into this office, I would see Glenn 1:06:40.395 --> 1:06:43.715 on the phone with his feed up talking to a 1:06:43.875 --> 1:06:47.235 music rep from Los Angeles, trying to get free radio 1:06:48.435 --> 1:06:53.155 players of various kinds and performances or records or least 1:06:53.315 --> 1:06:57.275 or tickets to concerts or something, and ultimately to get 1:06:57.355 --> 1:07:00.315 himself a career in the business, which I admired him for. 1:07:00.475 --> 1:07:02.915 He was really good at it and it worked, but 1:07:02.995 --> 1:07:05.715 I could see him then, and it occurred to me 1:07:05.755 --> 1:07:10.035 as I sat down, to my surprise, that I could 1:07:10.075 --> 1:07:14.475 see him now, not if I look directly at the 1:07:14.555 --> 1:07:17.635 corner of what was his desk, but only if I 1:07:17.755 --> 1:07:20.915 maintained my eye contact with the general manager of the 1:07:20.995 --> 1:07:24.115 radio station and with Phil Shapiro, who was basically explaining 1:07:24.155 --> 1:07:25.995 to me the two of them were that the radio 1:07:25.995 --> 1:07:29.275 station was going to go out of business shortly like 1:07:29.675 --> 1:07:32.155 forty five minutes from now, and I just happened to 1:07:32.235 --> 1:07:35.515 wander in for the first time in literally fifteen years, 1:07:35.755 --> 1:07:37.955 on the day they were going to vote to take 1:07:37.995 --> 1:07:41.755 the radio station off the air. So that was Phil 1:07:41.755 --> 1:07:45.035 Shapiro's question, what are you doing here today? I said, 1:07:46.675 --> 1:07:50.115 I don't know. Now I begin to understand what I 1:07:50.195 --> 1:07:53.435 was doing there, because when I did not look into 1:07:53.475 --> 1:07:56.195 the corner that had Glenn's desk in it, I could 1:07:56.235 --> 1:07:59.355 see him quite clearly, with his feet up on the 1:07:59.435 --> 1:08:02.675 phone and now hanging the phone up, and now putting 1:08:02.675 --> 1:08:05.355 his feet down, and just sort of sitting back in 1:08:05.395 --> 1:08:09.075 the chair with his hands behind his head, rocking back 1:08:09.115 --> 1:08:13.155 and forth in that chair and smiling and smiling more 1:08:13.235 --> 1:08:16.115 and more broadly at me. And he was there and 1:08:16.195 --> 1:08:19.075 I don't think I've ever told anybody about this, but 1:08:19.195 --> 1:08:21.675 I could see him. If I snapped over and tried 1:08:21.715 --> 1:08:24.875 to catch him, he wasn't there. If I looked at 1:08:24.875 --> 1:08:27.635 the general manager and at Phil Shapiro, he was there. 1:08:28.395 --> 1:08:30.475 And they began to explain to me the whole history 1:08:30.475 --> 1:08:33.955 of the ten or fifteen year decline of the finances 1:08:33.995 --> 1:08:36.715 of a WVBR, which apparently was the last radio station 1:08:36.755 --> 1:08:39.075 in this country to try to go top forty for 1:08:39.115 --> 1:08:42.795 some reason in the mid nineteen eighties. And that's where 1:08:43.195 --> 1:08:46.275 the financial problem, which was not truly a financial problem. 1:08:46.315 --> 1:08:50.075 If they could get rid of the debt, they'd be 1:08:50.155 --> 1:08:53.315 making money. I mean, it sounds academic, and for my 1:08:53.475 --> 1:08:57.595 financial cuman, which is almost nothing, it is kind of academic. 1:08:57.635 --> 1:09:00.395 But literally, if they could just wipe out this debt, 1:09:00.435 --> 1:09:01.955 but there was no way to wipe out the debt, 1:09:03.075 --> 1:09:05.075 they could never get out from under it. And that 1:09:05.235 --> 1:09:07.635 was what the meeting was about. And the votes were 1:09:07.635 --> 1:09:09.835 there to shut the radio station down and there would 1:09:09.835 --> 1:09:13.475 be no chance it could ever resume. It had to 1:09:13.475 --> 1:09:16.275 stay on the air during the summer, for if no 1:09:16.395 --> 1:09:19.075 other reason, in the summer was when the real training 1:09:19.155 --> 1:09:23.035 was done. The people who aspired to be professionals in radio, 1:09:23.555 --> 1:09:25.635 stayed in Ithaca, New York for the summer and were 1:09:25.675 --> 1:09:28.715 on the air five, six days a week as disc jockeys, 1:09:28.755 --> 1:09:33.915 as newscasters, as sportscasters, as salesmen, as running a radio 1:09:33.955 --> 1:09:37.395 station for three months in a small town. I did 1:09:37.395 --> 1:09:40.715 it for one summer, and it doubled my ability in 1:09:40.755 --> 1:09:46.195 three months. And so everything I had owed to WVBR, 1:09:46.675 --> 1:09:51.675 and I knew it, and the ghost in the corner 1:09:51.755 --> 1:09:56.275 knew it too. And now I'm waiting for the punchline 1:09:56.275 --> 1:10:01.235 to this how much money they have and how much 1:10:01.275 --> 1:10:04.715 money they owe, and what the debt service is, and 1:10:04.715 --> 1:10:07.795 how much money there is standing between them and the 1:10:07.835 --> 1:10:12.675 apocalypse of shutting down for the summer. And I'm waiting 1:10:12.715 --> 1:10:17.395 to hear half a million dollars, seven hundred and fifty 1:10:17.435 --> 1:10:24.635 thousand dollars, even three hundred thousand dollars something enormous. Remember 1:10:24.675 --> 1:10:27.235 at ESPN doing Sports Center, I never made three hundred 1:10:27.235 --> 1:10:29.195 thousand dollars, not in the nineties, and I was the 1:10:29.275 --> 1:10:33.715 highest paid guy doing SportsCenter. They didn't even offer me 1:10:34.395 --> 1:10:37.035 half a million dollars to stay in nineteen ninety seven. There, 1:10:37.075 --> 1:10:39.475 I'm not going to pay anybody to do SportsCenter for 1:10:39.515 --> 1:10:46.075 that much money. So I'm listening, and the only thing 1:10:46.115 --> 1:10:49.915 that occurred to me was, well, maybe maybe I can 1:10:50.355 --> 1:10:52.675 throw some money at it and we can delay this 1:10:52.915 --> 1:10:56.275 a couple of weeks. Maybe, because what had happened was 1:10:56.515 --> 1:10:59.355 because of the book, which made me some money, and 1:10:59.395 --> 1:11:02.235 that commercial when I fell off the cliff, the Boston 1:11:02.235 --> 1:11:05.035 Market commercial which I've made, had made me some money. Two, 1:11:05.435 --> 1:11:10.275 my tax guy had told me that I had to 1:11:10.315 --> 1:11:15.835 find a charitable donation to make to a nonprofit of 1:11:15.875 --> 1:11:21.755 some sort. And WVBR qualified as a nonprofit because of 1:11:21.795 --> 1:11:26.315 this byzantine tax structure and legal status granted by it 1:11:26.995 --> 1:11:30.835 the FCC to it in nineteen thirty nine. It had 1:11:30.915 --> 1:11:33.755 those properties. But what good would it be if they 1:11:33.795 --> 1:11:36.755 needed ten million dollars I had to give away, according 1:11:36.795 --> 1:11:42.475 to my accountant, about fifty thousand dollars, or just give 1:11:42.475 --> 1:11:45.235 it to the irs. So he said, be on the lookout. 1:11:45.275 --> 1:11:47.075 You have about a month to make up your mind. 1:11:47.995 --> 1:11:50.595 And I listened to this nightmare. I listened to Glenn's 1:11:50.675 --> 1:11:53.635 radio station about to go off the air, and Peter's 1:11:53.755 --> 1:11:56.915 radio station, and Pats radio station, and my radio station 1:11:57.395 --> 1:11:59.755 going off the air because among other things. I hadn't 1:11:59.755 --> 1:12:04.035 paid any attention to it for fifteen years. And Joyce 1:12:04.075 --> 1:12:09.115 Brothers worked at that radio station, not with me, she 1:12:09.235 --> 1:12:13.275 was some years before. And I listened to this, and 1:12:13.355 --> 1:12:16.315 in the corner of my eye, in the corner of 1:12:16.315 --> 1:12:18.955 the office, I could see Glenn, and I what could 1:12:19.035 --> 1:12:22.435 not understand about this? It made absolute perfect sense to 1:12:22.435 --> 1:12:25.635 me that Glenn Cornelius's ghost would be in the corner 1:12:25.755 --> 1:12:28.515 of the business office at WVBR, and my first appearance 1:12:28.555 --> 1:12:31.115 there in fifteen years, when I happened somehow to have 1:12:31.115 --> 1:12:35.675 been driven there in one hour shy of the moment 1:12:35.715 --> 1:12:37.395 that they were going to take the radio station off 1:12:37.395 --> 1:12:39.395 the air. That I happened to be there that day, 1:12:39.435 --> 1:12:42.155 I could understand why Glenn's ghost would be standing there, 1:12:42.355 --> 1:12:44.995 or sitting there in the corner, staring at me. What 1:12:45.075 --> 1:12:47.195 I could not understand was why he had a smile 1:12:47.275 --> 1:12:49.795 on his face. This did not seem to make any sense. 1:12:49.955 --> 1:12:51.915 That was the part that disturbed me, Not that I 1:12:51.955 --> 1:12:54.475 could see him even though he had been dead for 1:12:54.515 --> 1:12:57.555 more than a year. Not that part. It was that 1:12:57.635 --> 1:13:04.355 he was smiling at me. That's when I cut to 1:13:04.355 --> 1:13:07.275 the chain with Phil Shapiro and the general manager of 1:13:07.315 --> 1:13:11.675 the radio station. I said, how much do you need 1:13:13.515 --> 1:13:16.075 and I'm waiting for the answer three hundred and seventy 1:13:16.195 --> 1:13:19.515 nine thousand foot and the guy goes, well, I haven't 1:13:19.595 --> 1:13:21.955 checked it today, and I'm thinking, oh my god, it 1:13:22.075 --> 1:13:25.155 goes up every day. Oh my god, why is Glenn 1:13:25.195 --> 1:13:28.715 laughing at this? It can't possibly be something I can 1:13:28.795 --> 1:13:31.995 help with. It'll be a drop in the bucket even 1:13:31.995 --> 1:13:35.115 if I had to, he said, But I think the 1:13:35.195 --> 1:13:36.995 last time I looked earlier in the week, it was 1:13:38.235 --> 1:13:42.355 forty nine, nine hundred and eighty three dollars and twenty 1:13:42.395 --> 1:13:49.795 seven cents. Now I saw Glenn's ghost burst into laughter silently. 1:13:49.875 --> 1:13:55.435 Of course I burst into laughter full volume. I said, 1:13:55.555 --> 1:13:59.035 say that again, hewa forty nine thousand and nine and 1:13:59.075 --> 1:14:03.835 twenty seven cents. And I said, Okay, you're not shutting 1:14:03.835 --> 1:14:07.515 down the radio state on my watch? Can you keep 1:14:07.555 --> 1:14:14.515 it open until tomorrow morning? Without any help? Well, I suppose, 1:14:15.395 --> 1:14:20.795 I said, okay, Because here's the deal. My accountant wants 1:14:20.835 --> 1:14:24.515 me to give away fifty thousand dollars in the next month. 1:14:24.875 --> 1:14:27.555 And I happen to be here an hour before the 1:14:27.595 --> 1:14:29.715 meeting at which you're going to shut down because you 1:14:29.715 --> 1:14:32.235 don't have fifty thousand dollars. So here's what I propose 1:14:32.315 --> 1:14:35.195 to do. In addition to the fact that I had 1:14:35.235 --> 1:14:38.035 to pay for the limo to take me up here 1:14:38.075 --> 1:14:40.995 from New York, and I thought it was going to 1:14:40.995 --> 1:14:45.115 be one check for the trip up and one check 1:14:45.155 --> 1:14:48.475 for the trip back. In fact, they demanded the round 1:14:48.475 --> 1:14:50.315 trip in advance, so when I got out of the 1:14:50.355 --> 1:14:52.515 car an hour ago, I had to give them a 1:14:52.675 --> 1:14:56.115 round trip fee on one check. I still have one 1:14:56.155 --> 1:14:58.915 of my corporate checks back in the hotel, so I 1:14:58.995 --> 1:15:01.915 have a check, a blank check, and I have a 1:15:02.035 --> 1:15:05.475 need to give away fifty thousand dollars, which is slightly 1:15:05.515 --> 1:15:08.515 more than you need by about thirteen bucks. So here's 1:15:08.515 --> 1:15:11.315 what I want. I want you to rename that studio 1:15:11.355 --> 1:15:14.075 over there where you do most of the music programming from. 1:15:14.235 --> 1:15:17.155 I need you to rename that after Glenn and I 1:15:17.235 --> 1:15:21.795 want to party tomorrow with Cake, and I want balloons, 1:15:22.675 --> 1:15:26.195 and I want this announcement to run just once. You're 1:15:26.235 --> 1:15:30.955 listening to WVBRFM ninety three point five Ithica, New York, 1:15:31.435 --> 1:15:35.235 an Olderman broadcasting Empire station. You don't have to run 1:15:35.235 --> 1:15:40.275 it once. And they went, what and Phil Shapiro went 1:15:40.355 --> 1:15:42.995 white as a sheet. I said, I'm giving you the 1:15:43.075 --> 1:15:47.155 money you need. How's that? Can you stay open until 1:15:47.235 --> 1:15:50.715 tomorrow without it? Because I have it back in my 1:15:50.875 --> 1:15:53.075 room and I really don't want to go over there 1:15:53.115 --> 1:15:57.115 and come back again today. I'll come back tomorrow. I mean, 1:15:57.195 --> 1:15:59.635 I'm not criticizing anybody. None of you are the ones 1:15:59.635 --> 1:16:03.035 who are responsible for turning this into a top forty 1:16:03.115 --> 1:16:06.275 radio station in nineteen eighty five. That wasn't your fault. 1:16:06.315 --> 1:16:09.395 It's nineteen ninety six. Those people are long gone from 1:16:09.395 --> 1:16:15.435 this radio station. I said, okay, can you can you 1:16:15.635 --> 1:16:22.355 just not shut down my station, Glenn's radio station? Can 1:16:22.395 --> 1:16:27.035 you just stay on the air and stay in business 1:16:27.115 --> 1:16:29.795 till tomorrow morning? And Phil Shapiro, who I thought, was 1:16:29.835 --> 1:16:32.475 going to faint, and I'm thinking, oh great, now there'll 1:16:32.515 --> 1:16:37.795 be two ghosts in this room, Phil, and I think 1:16:37.835 --> 1:16:39.395 we can handle it. What do you think? And the 1:16:39.435 --> 1:16:41.795 general manager just looked at me, like, oh, thank god, 1:16:41.835 --> 1:16:44.995 how did you come here today? I went, I looked 1:16:45.035 --> 1:16:46.275 over in the corner of the room and there was 1:16:46.315 --> 1:16:49.555 no ghost anymore. And I said, someday I'll explain it 1:16:49.595 --> 1:16:56.675 to you. The radio station survived. They managed to keep 1:16:56.715 --> 1:16:58.235 it open till the next day, and then we had 1:16:58.235 --> 1:16:59.915 a party, and then they put up a plaque that 1:16:59.995 --> 1:17:02.875 called at the Glenn Cornelius Memorial Studio. And then they 1:17:02.875 --> 1:17:05.635 got into other problems that really were not their fault, 1:17:05.635 --> 1:17:08.155 where we had to build them a new studio in 1:17:08.395 --> 1:17:10.955 about two thousand and ten or so, and it has 1:17:11.035 --> 1:17:13.275 a little bit more money circulating through my life. So 1:17:13.315 --> 1:17:16.235 I helped them out there too, and now they operate 1:17:16.275 --> 1:17:20.395 from a much nicer multi media facility called the Olderman 1:17:20.515 --> 1:17:24.875 Cornelius Studios, which I claim are named after Glenn and 1:17:24.995 --> 1:17:27.715 after my father, because my father put in such effort 1:17:27.795 --> 1:17:29.955 to getting me into that place in the first time, 1:17:30.795 --> 1:17:34.675 and into Cornell in the first place. But obviously it 1:17:35.075 --> 1:17:38.235 also the other Olderman in the equation is me, but 1:17:38.315 --> 1:17:41.915 it's Olderman Cornelius rather than Cornelius Olderman, because as I 1:17:41.915 --> 1:17:45.315 think Glenn would have agreed with me, the damnedest part 1:17:45.355 --> 1:17:47.235 of this would have been if somebody someday had thought 1:17:47.235 --> 1:17:50.355 there was actually somebody named Cornelius Olderman, so we wouldn't 1:17:50.355 --> 1:17:53.595 have that, neither he nor I, And so it is 1:17:54.075 --> 1:18:01.595 now today the Olderman Cornelius Studios. But I saw him 1:18:01.715 --> 1:18:08.235 laughing his ass off. Something put me in that studio 1:18:08.275 --> 1:18:10.115 an hour before they were going to go out of 1:18:10.115 --> 1:18:13.835 business after not being there for fifteen years, nor worrying 1:18:13.875 --> 1:18:16.835 about their financial status. Something put me in that studio 1:18:17.195 --> 1:18:19.955 having to give away fifty thousand dollars for tax purposes 1:18:21.355 --> 1:18:26.035 when they needed just slightly less than that. I'm happy 1:18:26.035 --> 1:18:29.035 to say that they spent the additional thirteen dollars on 1:18:29.115 --> 1:18:40.395 the cake. I saw him, didn't hear them, didn't ask 1:18:40.515 --> 1:18:51.795 him questions, didn't say anything. I saw him. And then 1:18:52.475 --> 1:18:53.995 the other day I found this cassette. 1:18:58.675 --> 1:19:01.475 All right, that's what I like to see. A record 1:19:01.475 --> 1:19:02.755 that's hop skipping and jumping. 1:19:02.795 --> 1:19:04.915 There, Paull the young dues. Let's listen to this, folks. 1:19:07.315 --> 1:19:10.675 You are a wait, that wasn't your cue. Hold it. 1:19:10.675 --> 1:19:13.835 We're not quite ready yet. Time out one. Two? 1:19:13.915 --> 1:19:16.155 Okay, wait, don't go yet. Well that's three and a 1:19:16.155 --> 1:19:18.795 half minutes before two o'clock. We're w I at our Binghamton. 1:19:19.035 --> 1:19:20.795 My name is Tom Daniels, and we're going off the 1:19:20.835 --> 1:19:21.715 air in a very little while. 1:19:21.755 --> 1:19:22.835 I'll be back tomorrow. 1:19:22.555 --> 1:19:25.315 Morning and maybe at ten o'clock, and I'll be here 1:19:25.355 --> 1:19:28.155 through four Dandy down Morgan at four o'clock. 1:19:28.115 --> 1:19:33.715 And now this message are well. 1:19:33.755 --> 1:19:36.875 The world may never recover from this. I certainly won't 1:19:36.915 --> 1:19:40.235 ever recover from this. But Al Stewart's gonna come and 1:19:40.275 --> 1:19:40.955 he's gonna sing a. 1:19:40.915 --> 1:19:42.555 Song, and this is entertaining. It's a nice song to 1:19:42.555 --> 1:19:43.195 go to bit too. 1:19:43.475 --> 1:20:01.035 It's all about you're the cats mine? Yes, all right, 1:20:01.115 --> 1:20:07.715 Hurricane list enough, Hurricane you're not listening. I'm gonna have 1:20:07.755 --> 1:20:10.875 to take a sisive action here. A hurricane doesn't watch out. 1:20:16.835 --> 1:20:19.955 I told you you weren't nice. Well, the views and 1:20:19.995 --> 1:20:22.755 opinions expressed by this activity do not particularly reflect the 1:20:22.795 --> 1:20:26.075 opinions or the views of anyone, most especially Chief or 1:20:26.155 --> 1:20:28.435 Peter or Bat or anybody else like that. Thirteen before 1:20:28.475 --> 1:20:30.675 one o'clock at WI n R. That was a little 1:20:30.675 --> 1:20:33.035 bit of Hurricane Smith. Luckily not a whole lot, though 1:20:33.075 --> 1:20:33.755 eagles are here. 1:20:47.555 --> 1:20:49.395 I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank 1:20:49.435 --> 1:20:51.915 you for listening. Brian Ray and John Phillip Schaneille, the 1:20:51.955 --> 1:20:55.915 musical directors have Countdown Range, produced and performed most of 1:20:55.955 --> 1:20:59.555 our music. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Mister Ray 1:20:59.635 --> 1:21:01.515 was on the guitars, bass and drums, and it was 1:21:01.515 --> 1:21:05.955 produced by Tko Brothers. Our satirical and pithy musical comments 1:21:06.275 --> 1:21:12.835 are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, my accompanyous missist, 1:21:13.795 --> 1:21:18.115 Nancy Faust. The sports music is the Ulderman theme from 1:21:18.275 --> 1:21:21.435 ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis Curtisy of ESPN Inc. 1:21:21.795 --> 1:21:25.075 Other music arranged and performed by No Horns allowed. My 1:21:25.115 --> 1:21:28.035 announcer today is my friend Tony Kornheiser, and everything else was, 1:21:28.075 --> 1:21:32.355 as ever, my fault. So that's countdown for today, Day 1:21:32.395 --> 1:21:35.875 one hundred and nine of America held hostage. Just one 1:21:36.315 --> 1:21:39.115 three hundred and fifty four days until the scheduled end 1:21:39.115 --> 1:21:42.555 of his lame duck and lame brained term, unless Musk 1:21:42.635 --> 1:21:46.795 removes him sooner, or the actuarial tables due, or we do. 1:21:47.755 --> 1:21:51.475 The next scheduled countdown is Monday. As always, bulletins, as 1:21:51.475 --> 1:21:55.875 the news warrants, remember, he is, as you listen to this, 1:21:56.355 --> 1:22:02.355 laying the groundwork now to not leave office later. Also, 1:22:02.435 --> 1:22:05.315 I want polling on a presidential recall Von't somebody do 1:22:05.475 --> 1:22:08.635 polling on a presidential recall vote? Won't somebody think about 1:22:08.635 --> 1:22:12.035 the polling on a presidential recall vote? Until next time? 1:22:12.075 --> 1:22:15.395 I'm Keith Olberman, good morning, good afternoon, good night, and 1:22:15.755 --> 1:22:26.155 good luck. All right, we're gonna try this. The windmills 1:22:26.675 --> 1:22:50.595 of Trump's mind take one, like the gas that costs 1:22:50.675 --> 1:22:55.675 two dollars, like eighty three percent of eggs, never ending 1:22:55.875 --> 1:23:00.555 or beginning, like a tariff on your legs, like a 1:23:00.635 --> 1:23:04.995 prison on an island that was closed in sixty three, 1:23:05.915 --> 1:23:10.915 Like a ninety dollars searcharge on any movie you might see, 1:23:11.595 --> 1:23:16.195 like rationing the dolls, so your child only gets three 1:23:16.955 --> 1:23:22.955 militarily parading, but it's really just for me, Like the 1:23:23.115 --> 1:23:28.035 bullshit that you find in the windmills of Chomp's my 1:23:33.275 --> 1:23:37.515 thank you Nancy post? 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