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Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olderman is a production of iHeartRadio. Try

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Speaker 1: and Stop Me. Another plot to evade the twenty second

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Speaker 1: Amendment and enable Trump to seek a third term has

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Speaker 1: floated up to the surface of the MAGA Latrine. The

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Speaker 1: constitutional term limit on presidents, this one goes, is in

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Speaker 1: fact unconstitutional because no other federal office is term limited.

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Speaker 1: I'll go into depth about this in a moment. But Americans,

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Speaker 1: especially displaced Americans in other countries and people here who

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Speaker 1: are not really paying attention but think they know the Constitution,

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Speaker 1: are not taking any of this seriously. But the twenty

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Speaker 1: second Amendment, said an expatriate to me the other day.

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Speaker 1: I sighed, I said, Trump will try. He has to.

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Speaker 1: He cannot leave office. He will be prosecuted if he

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Speaker 1: leaves office. He will be jailed by somebody. If he

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Speaker 1: leaves office, he will die in prison if he leaves office,

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Speaker 1: Trump twenty twenty eight. The methodology ultimately will be I'm

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Speaker 1: doing it, try and stop me, just like everything else.

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Speaker 1: And I might add he is still talking about it

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Speaker 1: Trump on Sunday. So many people want me to do it.

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Speaker 1: I have never had requests so strong as that. But

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Speaker 1: it's something that to the best of mine knowledge, you're

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Speaker 1: not allowed to do. But there are many people selling

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Speaker 1: the twenty twenty eight hat. But this is not something

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Speaker 1: I'm looking to do. I'm looking to have four great years.

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Speaker 1: It's best of my knowledge, not allowed, not something I'm

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Speaker 1: looking to do. The unspoken conclusion of all that is,

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Speaker 1: of course, But if you all really want me to, okay,

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Speaker 1: I guess I'll make the sacrifice. I'll come off the

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Speaker 1: golf course two or three times a week, but I'm

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Speaker 1: not going to come up with the plot. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to make it happen. You're going to have to

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Speaker 1: do it. And then I'll pretend I don't want to,

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Speaker 1: but I'll let you convince me, just to show how

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Speaker 1: easy this is, how easy this evil is. You do

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Speaker 1: not have to be a constitutional scholar to come up

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Speaker 1: with a way for Trump, reluctantly, of course, to evade

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Speaker 1: the Constitution. I mean it's not just that you don't

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Speaker 1: have to be a constitutional scholar. You don't have to

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Speaker 1: have a fourth grade degree to come up with something.

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Speaker 1: Give the proverbial monkeys enough time and enough typewriters, and

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Speaker 1: they will come up with an idea. No one better

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Speaker 1: fits that analogy than Greg Kelly of Newsmax, a bonehead

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Speaker 1: so dense that he makes Jesse Waters of Fox look like, well,

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Speaker 1: there's so many choices. Greg Kelly makes Jesse Waters of

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Speaker 2: That twenty second amendment about not being able to run

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Speaker 2: for a third term just might be unconstitutional. Nobody else

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Speaker 2: has term limits in the federal government. The Court, the

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Speaker 2: Supreme Court. You're there for a lightetime. If you want it,

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Speaker 2: you can stay as long as you like. How about

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Speaker 2: the United States Senate? Those guys run for reelection. There

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Speaker 2: is absolutely no term limits whatsoever. It's a big deal

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Speaker 2: to change the constitution, but they did it. However, it

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Speaker 2: just might be unconstitutional itself.

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Speaker 3: President Trump, it should be looked at.

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Speaker 2: This is a way the deep State keeps the presidency

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Speaker 2: under their thumb.

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Speaker 3: Only two terms.

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Speaker 2: Nobody else in federal government other than the vice president,

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Speaker 2: I guess is no. I don't know if it applies

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Speaker 2: to the vice president anyway. President Trump is not running

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Speaker 2: in twenty twenty eight. But this looks to me and

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Speaker 2: some other constitutional well some constitutional heavyweights.

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Speaker 3: I'm not one. There's something to be done here, and

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Speaker 3: it should be explored.

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Speaker 1: So there it is a guy coming off is kind

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Speaker 1: of rambling moron, just throwing it out there like it

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Speaker 1: just occurred to him, rather than somebody handed this to

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Speaker 1: him and said, read it in that stupid way of yours.

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Speaker 1: Make it seem like it's your idea, the way Trump

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Speaker 1: does it. Oh, I'm not trying to seek a third term,

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Speaker 1: but everybody else wants me to, So I guess I'm

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Speaker 1: going to have to. I don't really know the law.

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Speaker 1: We'll just add ask other people as if he has

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Speaker 1: had less than four hundred committees working on this in

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Speaker 1: it is the newest Trump third term plot. Trump can

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Speaker 1: run for a third term because the Constitution is unconstitutional.

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Speaker 1: And what phrase could better sum up this last decade

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Speaker 1: Greg Kelly that the constitution is unconstitutional in the olden times,

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Speaker 1: newest outline for their biggest scam ever and their most

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Speaker 1: evil scam ever. There's one other new and frightening development

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Speaker 1: on the eternal Trump plot front. It pertains to the

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Speaker 1: arrest of Judge Dougan and the ominous follow up from

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Speaker 1: Deucy the Younger of Fox to the White House Press

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Speaker 1: Secretary MS Caroline Liar. Deucey asked, would you ever arrest

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Speaker 1: a federal judge or even a Supreme Court justice? And

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Speaker 1: Caroline Levitt Liar answered, I'd refer you to the DOJ

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Speaker 1: for individuals they are looking at, but then concluded, anyone

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Speaker 1: who is breaking the law or obstructing federal law enforcement

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Speaker 1: officials is putting themselves at risk of being prosecuted. Absolutely so.

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Speaker 1: Ultimately that means if Trump does go along with one

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Speaker 1: the Supreme Court and they rule against him, he will

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Speaker 1: arrest them. She just said it, because they will simply

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Speaker 1: put it in terms of obstructing federal law enforcement officials

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Speaker 1: But clearly they were right when they wrote what they wrote,

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Speaker 1: but wrong in how they applied it. All right, let's

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Speaker 1: go back to the beginning. Remember the five main rules

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Speaker 1: of Trump's various plots to get around the Constitution and

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Speaker 1: He will try this, he has to. He might be stopped,

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Speaker 1: four of them. Now I mentioned the Constitution is unconstitutional

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Speaker 1: those people. But he did say in a slip that

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Speaker 1: I bet he never makes again. He did say that

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Speaker 1: quote studying. This was a major, major accidental confession, and

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Speaker 1: again I would not expect him to do it again,

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Speaker 1: Mainline rule number four. His only involvement in this, at

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Speaker 1: least publicly, at least superficially, will be to thank everyone

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Speaker 1: for making this day necessary and that lawmakers. In other words,

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Speaker 1: his Republican prostitutes will change things if he's done enough

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Speaker 1: good while in office, meaning if He's made them enough

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Speaker 1: If nothing else works, he will ultimately turn to a

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Speaker 1: that because nobody else actually exists in his mind. But

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Speaker 1: On January sixth, for him and him alone. If you

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Speaker 1: down at the base of his feral brain. Down there,

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Speaker 1: at the bottom of the reptile spine, there is Donald Trump,

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Speaker 1: and the rest of us are just at our best

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Speaker 1: you can't term limited president if nobody else term limited.

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Speaker 1: the founding fathers. Again, as I said the other day,

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Speaker 1: And we are a country of laws and not men.

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Speaker 1: or less on what the f they think they are doing,

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Speaker 1: and only until a week from tomorrow to prepare for

434
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Speaker 1: an in person hearing about what the f they are doing. Clearly,

435
00:30:42,475 --> 00:30:44,475
Speaker 1: since the most they've actually been able to dig up

436
00:30:44,475 --> 00:30:47,795
Speaker 1: on this wrongly renditioned man that their own DOJ admitted

437
00:30:47,875 --> 00:30:50,995
Speaker 1: was wrongly renditioned, so they fired the guy who admitted

438
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Speaker 1: he was wrongly renditioned was the possibility that he was

439
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Speaker 1: a driver for undocumented workers going from one state to another.

440
00:31:00,275 --> 00:31:04,315
Speaker 1: There is no chance there are any state secrets involved

441
00:31:04,315 --> 00:31:07,155
Speaker 1: in this case, and the point of this is the

442
00:31:07,155 --> 00:31:11,395
Speaker 1: point of all Trump's court cases, to stall, to fill

443
00:31:11,475 --> 00:31:14,235
Speaker 1: up the calendar with hearing after hearing and then appeal

444
00:31:14,315 --> 00:31:17,715
Speaker 1: after appeal so they can run out the clock. Presumably

445
00:31:17,755 --> 00:31:21,475
Speaker 1: both on the orders to return Abrego Garcia and all

446
00:31:21,515 --> 00:31:24,875
Speaker 1: the possible contempt charges piling up against Stephen Miller and

447
00:31:24,955 --> 00:31:28,355
Speaker 1: the leaders at Ice and hopefully that witch Christy Nome

448
00:31:28,715 --> 00:31:32,835
Speaker 1: now with eight new action dress up outfits. As usual,

449
00:31:33,195 --> 00:31:35,995
Speaker 1: when faced with the six foot thick walls of the

450
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Speaker 1: actual remaining laws and actual remaining American principles, Trump and

451
00:31:40,715 --> 00:31:45,155
Speaker 1: his minion and especially this Eichmann level nerd monster Miller,

452
00:31:45,435 --> 00:31:48,315
Speaker 1: are simply stepping on the gas and headed right for

453
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Speaker 1: the walls. They have not only installed these new hurdles

454
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Speaker 1: in the Abrego Garcia case, but they are now kidnapping

455
00:31:55,115 --> 00:31:59,835
Speaker 1: and renditioning immigrants to Libya at least they want to

456
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Speaker 1: to a hellhole of a prison in a country in

457
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Speaker 1: a state of full on civil war. They are basically

458
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Speaker 1: sending people who, if nothing else, have a right to

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Speaker 1: do process into a dangerous prison inside a dangerous country

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Speaker 1: where there is every chance they can get killed inside

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00:32:19,795 --> 00:32:24,035
Speaker 1: the prison or outside the prison. They also apparently wanted

462
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Speaker 1: to send other people they have kidnapped off our streets

463
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Speaker 1: to Ukraine. This while the memo is out confirming reporting

464
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Speaker 1: that America's intelligence agencies, now run by trumpists, had concluded

465
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Speaker 1: that the entire excuse for all of this from kilmar

466
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Speaker 1: Garcia through the Libya airliners is crap that there is

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Speaker 1: no basis for President Scrooge McDuck to invoke the Alien

468
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Speaker 1: Enemies Act because of the Venezuelan based gang trend Aragua,

469
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Speaker 1: which must really piss Trump off because he had just

470
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Speaker 1: managed to somehow learn to say the Intel community's conclusion,

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Speaker 1: the Venezuelan govern does not control that gang, and the

472
00:33:07,635 --> 00:33:11,395
Speaker 1: country's dictator Maduro also does not control that gang. Thus,

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Speaker 1: any gang members here are not part of some kind

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Speaker 1: of invasion, and thus they are not subject to the

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00:33:17,795 --> 00:33:20,875
Speaker 1: Alien Enemies Act. Thus, if the laws and the courts

476
00:33:20,995 --> 00:33:24,475
Speaker 1: still have any purpose or influence here, Trump has to

477
00:33:24,515 --> 00:33:28,315
Speaker 1: bring them all back and either let them go or

478
00:33:28,355 --> 00:33:30,555
Speaker 1: give them the same hearings they would have gotten under

479
00:33:30,595 --> 00:33:36,155
Speaker 1: Biden and every preceding president. This also raises the stakes

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Speaker 1: for Miller and increases the chances that Judge Zennis or

481
00:33:39,875 --> 00:33:43,115
Speaker 1: Judge Boseburg in the other case, may actually take the

482
00:33:43,155 --> 00:33:46,355
Speaker 1: step of putting one of these bastards behind bars, at

483
00:33:46,435 --> 00:33:50,195
Speaker 1: least briefly, for their continuing and now escalating contempt of court.

484
00:33:51,275 --> 00:33:55,395
Speaker 1: Before the memo confirming all this was declassified and released.

485
00:33:55,715 --> 00:33:59,035
Speaker 1: The New York Times reported the conclusions in the memo

486
00:33:59,515 --> 00:34:03,475
Speaker 1: in March, and Trump's response, naturally, was to threaten prosecution,

487
00:34:04,755 --> 00:34:07,835
Speaker 1: not of Stephen Miller, nor of Tom Homan, nor of

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00:34:07,915 --> 00:34:10,835
Speaker 1: Christy Nome, but of those who leaked it and those

489
00:34:10,875 --> 00:34:14,955
Speaker 1: who printed it. Miller, Holman, Gnome, and of course Trump

490
00:34:15,035 --> 00:34:18,995
Speaker 1: are Unamerican bastards, and if we do not stop them now,

491
00:34:19,035 --> 00:34:22,515
Speaker 1: we will soon be deprived of the ability to do so.

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00:34:23,355 --> 00:34:26,675
Speaker 1: The only alien enemies here right now are the members

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Speaker 1: and supporters of this rogue and immoral Trump dictatorship. Naturally,

494
00:34:33,195 --> 00:34:36,795
Speaker 1: the Trump response to the whole thing, promote Stephen Miller

495
00:34:37,035 --> 00:34:42,355
Speaker 1: to National Security Advisor, hasn't happened yet expected to within months,

496
00:34:43,315 --> 00:34:46,235
Speaker 1: just as the response in trump Land to his asinine

497
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Speaker 1: idea of an Anschluss in Canada and something akin to

498
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Speaker 1: Mussolini invading Ethiopia in Greenland is for Trump to have

499
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Speaker 1: the brain dead Director of National subpar Intelligence, Tulsey skunk

500
00:35:00,155 --> 00:35:04,315
Speaker 1: Streak Gabbard, issued what is called a collection emphasis message

501
00:35:04,755 --> 00:35:08,195
Speaker 1: to the chiefs of the various intel services to ramp

502
00:35:08,315 --> 00:35:14,035
Speaker 1: up spying on Greenland, among other things. This will cue

503
00:35:14,235 --> 00:35:17,675
Speaker 1: a search of both Greenland and Denmark for people there

504
00:35:17,995 --> 00:35:22,795
Speaker 1: who want Trump to invade Greenland and annex it should

505
00:35:22,835 --> 00:35:25,635
Speaker 1: be a pretty long search producing a pretty short list.

506
00:35:26,155 --> 00:35:28,795
Speaker 1: But at underscores, we may wake up one morning to

507
00:35:28,875 --> 00:35:33,075
Speaker 1: find out that overnight Trump has invaded Greenland and given

508
00:35:33,195 --> 00:35:35,715
Speaker 1: the knee jerk reaction of so many in this country

509
00:35:35,715 --> 00:35:38,555
Speaker 1: who view the world as a video game. I don't

510
00:35:38,595 --> 00:35:41,395
Speaker 1: know what happens after that, besides a lot of the

511
00:35:41,435 --> 00:35:46,115
Speaker 1: same blood and guts, flag waving and accusations of disloyalty

512
00:35:46,315 --> 00:35:51,235
Speaker 1: that followed Bush attacking Iraq, and once again, like Iraq,

513
00:35:51,315 --> 00:35:54,235
Speaker 1: this invasion would be in the interests of private industry.

514
00:35:54,275 --> 00:35:56,835
Speaker 1: And no, we didn't go into Iraq for oil. We

515
00:35:56,955 --> 00:36:00,075
Speaker 1: went into Iraq so we could have a war in Iraq,

516
00:36:00,275 --> 00:36:02,955
Speaker 1: so we could use in Iraq all the weapons made

517
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Speaker 1: by the Halliburtons of this country and employ all the

518
00:36:06,195 --> 00:36:10,875
Speaker 1: Eric Prince mercenaries. Now we would be deploying to Greenland,

519
00:36:11,275 --> 00:36:16,475
Speaker 1: maybe Denmark in order to get elon Musk his rare earths.

520
00:36:17,235 --> 00:36:21,115
Speaker 1: Donald Trump does not know what rare earths are. He

521
00:36:21,235 --> 00:36:26,515
Speaker 1: barely knows where Earth is. This is the same Musk

522
00:36:26,595 --> 00:36:30,195
Speaker 1: for whom Trump is now pressuring countries facing tariffs to

523
00:36:30,355 --> 00:36:35,315
Speaker 1: adopt Starlink, per the Washington Post, to bribe their way

524
00:36:35,395 --> 00:36:38,515
Speaker 1: out of tariffs that way. This is the same Musk

525
00:36:38,555 --> 00:36:42,595
Speaker 1: who reportedly just told a Milken conference that he expects

526
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Speaker 1: a SpaceX mission to get to Mars next year and

527
00:36:47,835 --> 00:36:51,395
Speaker 1: maybe a manned mission to Mars by twenty twenty eight.

528
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Speaker 1: Cynics would say it is safe to assume Musk is

529
00:36:54,595 --> 00:36:56,995
Speaker 1: high as a kite all the time, and he may

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Speaker 1: be high as a kite and be the somewhat perturbed

531
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Speaker 1: victim of that reported botched penile implant. But even if

532
00:37:06,035 --> 00:37:10,635
Speaker 1: neither is true, that is exactly the way Elon Musk acts.

533
00:37:12,515 --> 00:37:16,235
Speaker 1: In any event, this is not the first time. It

534
00:37:16,395 --> 00:37:21,435
Speaker 1: is of special note that Musk keeps making these Mars predictions,

535
00:37:21,675 --> 00:37:25,035
Speaker 1: and so far there is not one indication he's taken

536
00:37:25,075 --> 00:37:29,355
Speaker 1: even the preliminary steps to make any of them come true.

537
00:37:29,395 --> 00:37:33,515
Speaker 1: He made the next year prediction in March. He made

538
00:37:33,555 --> 00:37:36,875
Speaker 1: it in December twenty twenty when he said the unmanned

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00:37:36,915 --> 00:37:41,195
Speaker 1: mission would occur within six years. In fact, quote, if

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00:37:41,235 --> 00:37:45,115
Speaker 1: we get lucky, maybe four. He made the prediction in

541
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Speaker 1: September twenty sixteen, adding the competing people on Mars quote

542
00:37:50,195 --> 00:37:53,355
Speaker 1: might kind of be in the ten year range. He

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Speaker 1: also predicted a million humans on Mars by twenty fifty,

544
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Speaker 1: and I'll just note for perspective, twenty fifty is now

545
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Speaker 1: only as far ahead as two thousand is behind, and

546
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Speaker 1: that nowhere did he predict that those million humans on

547
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Speaker 1: Mars by twenty fifty would still be alive. Maybe that's

548
00:38:14,315 --> 00:38:19,835
Speaker 1: Trump's next location for renditioning immigrants. So crazy Musk has

549
00:38:19,875 --> 00:38:23,955
Speaker 1: already blown through his first prediction. If we're lucky, that

550
00:38:23,995 --> 00:38:27,075
Speaker 1: would have been December twenty twenty four. As it is,

551
00:38:27,235 --> 00:38:31,715
Speaker 1: he sent nothing to Mars. The fastest possible trip from

552
00:38:31,795 --> 00:38:35,515
Speaker 1: here to Mars is seven months in length. More likely

553
00:38:35,555 --> 00:38:39,555
Speaker 1: it's eight nine, ten months. Give him the benefit of

554
00:38:39,595 --> 00:38:43,395
Speaker 1: the doubt. Here. The unmanned mission he's talking about must

555
00:38:43,435 --> 00:38:47,355
Speaker 1: take off by next year, by next May, to get

556
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Speaker 1: there by twenty twenty six, a year from now. It

557
00:38:51,875 --> 00:38:56,235
Speaker 1: has to take off right now. Musk can't launch a

558
00:38:56,355 --> 00:39:00,875
Speaker 1: cyber truck that your average American can't peel apart with

559
00:39:00,955 --> 00:39:05,395
Speaker 1: their bare hands. But yeah, let's attack Greenland so this

560
00:39:05,435 --> 00:39:09,715
Speaker 1: guy can get some rare earths. And if we're lucky,

561
00:39:10,115 --> 00:39:13,195
Speaker 1: Trump will think we are going to Greenland to rescue

562
00:39:13,235 --> 00:39:17,515
Speaker 1: the seventies band Rare Earth, and that they'll perform. I

563
00:39:17,715 --> 00:39:20,915
Speaker 1: just want to celebrate and their cover of get Ready

564
00:39:20,995 --> 00:39:24,955
Speaker 1: at the White House while he and Musk dance, or

565
00:39:24,995 --> 00:39:29,875
Speaker 1: more correctly, while he and Musk make those spasmodic, embarrassing

566
00:39:29,955 --> 00:39:33,275
Speaker 1: body movements. That is as close as either one of

567
00:39:33,315 --> 00:39:48,515
Speaker 1: them will ever get to dancing. Meanwhile, Generalissimo Donaldo Trumpo

568
00:39:49,275 --> 00:39:55,555
Speaker 1: is still nuts. There is a kind of brilliance in

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Speaker 1: the SoundBite I am about to play for you asked

570
00:39:59,555 --> 00:40:05,075
Speaker 1: about his blasphemous image in which he depicted himself as pope.

571
00:40:05,915 --> 00:40:10,475
Speaker 1: He posted that image himself, he goes in a matter

572
00:40:10,515 --> 00:40:15,235
Speaker 1: of seconds from A Catholics can't take a joke to B.

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Speaker 1: There's no problem here with Catholics. It's fake news. To C,

574
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Speaker 1: I didn't do it. To D, maybe it was AI.

575
00:40:24,235 --> 00:40:27,675
Speaker 1: To E, I know nothing about this. To F, I

576
00:40:28,075 --> 00:40:30,955
Speaker 1: just saw it for the first time. To G even

577
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Speaker 1: though I know nothing about it and I had nothing

578
00:40:33,875 --> 00:40:36,715
Speaker 1: to do with it, and I just saw it. I

579
00:40:36,755 --> 00:40:42,075
Speaker 1: know Millenia liked it. This is magnificent in a way,

580
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Speaker 1: completely insane, but magnificent.

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Speaker 4: Catholics, we're not so happy about the image of you

582
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Speaker 4: looking like the Pope.

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Speaker 5: Oh, I see.

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Speaker 6: You mean they can't take a joke. You don't mean

585
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Speaker 6: the Catholics, you mean the fake news media, not.

586
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Speaker 3: The Catholics loved it.

587
00:40:59,635 --> 00:41:01,755
Speaker 1: I had nothing to do with it.

588
00:41:01,835 --> 00:41:03,835
Speaker 6: Somebody made up a picture of me dressed like the

589
00:41:03,875 --> 00:41:06,835
Speaker 6: Pope and put it out on the internet. That's not

590
00:41:06,955 --> 00:41:08,635
Speaker 6: me that did it. I have no idea where it

591
00:41:08,675 --> 00:41:12,515
Speaker 6: came from. Maybe it was Ai, but I know nothing

592
00:41:12,555 --> 00:41:17,035
Speaker 6: about it. I just saw it last evening. Actually, my

593
00:41:17,075 --> 00:41:19,755
Speaker 6: wife thought it was cute. She said, isn't that nice?

594
00:41:20,115 --> 00:41:23,595
Speaker 1: It makes your head spin. Of course Trump's head is

595
00:41:23,635 --> 00:41:31,475
Speaker 1: already spinning like an exorcist. And Trump confirmed he met

596
00:41:31,475 --> 00:41:36,675
Speaker 1: with the insurrectionist Henry Tarrio with that metro sexual beard,

597
00:41:37,235 --> 00:41:40,955
Speaker 1: and he told Tario to thank the January sixth insurrectionists.

598
00:41:42,075 --> 00:41:44,395
Speaker 1: And then there is the insanity of him wanting to

599
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Speaker 1: reopen Alcatraz, closed in nineteen sixty three because it was

600
00:41:47,715 --> 00:41:52,355
Speaker 1: no longer viable, which followed by six hours Channel twenty

601
00:41:52,355 --> 00:41:55,995
Speaker 1: six the PBS station in Miami playing the movie Escape

602
00:41:56,275 --> 00:42:01,555
Speaker 1: from Alcatraz, and all of a sudden, Trump believes what

603
00:42:01,675 --> 00:42:07,515
Speaker 1: he sees on PBS. Are there any films about Just

604
00:42:07,555 --> 00:42:12,275
Speaker 1: to pick a topic, at random presidential suicide. Oh right,

605
00:42:12,355 --> 00:42:16,875
Speaker 1: the Salvador Allende documentary. Hey, Channel twenty six, can you

606
00:42:16,955 --> 00:42:21,835
Speaker 1: run the Salvador Allende documentary? And he wants one hundred

607
00:42:21,835 --> 00:42:24,995
Speaker 1: percent tariffs on foreign made films and at least technically

608
00:42:25,035 --> 00:42:28,195
Speaker 1: all films are foreign made, and John Voight gave him

609
00:42:28,195 --> 00:42:32,195
Speaker 1: that terrify idea, and Trump doesn't realize. John Voight's career

610
00:42:32,235 --> 00:42:35,395
Speaker 1: peaked when he played Milo Minderbinder in Catch twenty two

611
00:42:35,635 --> 00:42:40,195
Speaker 1: in nineteen frickin seventy. The process is always the same.

612
00:42:40,395 --> 00:42:43,035
Speaker 1: Tell Trump he's great, Tell Trump a lie he wants

613
00:42:43,075 --> 00:42:45,395
Speaker 1: people to believe, and he will then do whatever you

614
00:42:45,475 --> 00:42:49,835
Speaker 1: suggest next. Gee, mister president, I'm John Voight. You're great.

615
00:42:50,555 --> 00:42:56,435
Speaker 1: Ever seen the Salvador Allende documentary? And of course the

616
00:42:56,595 --> 00:43:00,475
Speaker 1: likeliest outcome to all of that will be no American

617
00:43:00,555 --> 00:43:03,635
Speaker 1: made films get booked in any other country in the world,

618
00:43:04,195 --> 00:43:08,435
Speaker 1: and prices here go up like egg prices went up,

619
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Speaker 1: though he lied and said they went down. And then

620
00:43:11,595 --> 00:43:13,875
Speaker 1: there was the part about rationing the dolls so your

621
00:43:13,955 --> 00:43:17,875
Speaker 1: child only gets three and his military parade and the

622
00:43:17,995 --> 00:43:24,435
Speaker 1: cancer causing wind mills in his mind.

623
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Speaker 5: Hey, wait a minute, oh, Nancy, like the gas that

624
00:43:36,635 --> 00:43:41,715
Speaker 5: costs two dollars, like eighty three percent of eggs, never

625
00:43:41,955 --> 00:43:43,955
Speaker 5: ending or beginning.

626
00:43:43,915 --> 00:43:48,235
Speaker 1: Like a tariff on your legs, like a prison on

627
00:43:48,275 --> 00:43:52,555
Speaker 1: an island that was closed in sixty three, Like a

628
00:43:52,715 --> 00:43:57,595
Speaker 1: ninety dollars sir, charge on any movie you might see,

629
00:43:57,995 --> 00:44:02,395
Speaker 1: like rationing the doll so your child only gets three

630
00:44:03,195 --> 00:44:08,875
Speaker 1: mill tarily parading, but it's really just forummy, like the

631
00:44:09,035 --> 00:44:17,355
Speaker 1: bullshit that you find in the windmills of Trump's mine. Buh,

632
00:44:19,235 --> 00:44:27,755
Speaker 1: thank you, Nancy Faust. I have to confess I'm not

633
00:44:27,835 --> 00:44:32,035
Speaker 1: exactly sure how I turned into Bernie Sanders while singing that,

634
00:44:32,235 --> 00:44:36,195
Speaker 1: but there you have it. By the way, Nancy Faust

635
00:44:36,275 --> 00:44:40,315
Speaker 1: is returning this Sunday as the organist at the Chicago

636
00:44:40,395 --> 00:44:44,875
Speaker 1: White Sox game, the job she performed brilliantly for the

637
00:44:44,915 --> 00:44:49,315
Speaker 1: White Sox for forty one years. Bravo. And incidentally, Nancy

638
00:44:49,315 --> 00:44:52,395
Speaker 1: Faust immediately becomes the best player on the White Sox.

639
00:44:53,835 --> 00:44:56,195
Speaker 1: Also of interest, here, a Minnesota woman calls a five

640
00:44:56,275 --> 00:44:59,355
Speaker 1: year old the N word, and the lunatic right rallies

641
00:44:59,395 --> 00:45:04,835
Speaker 1: to defend the woman and raises a million dollars for her.

642
00:45:05,915 --> 00:45:08,115
Speaker 1: I don't know what we can do with all these people,

643
00:45:08,275 --> 00:45:11,955
Speaker 1: except maybe sequester them in Wyoming or somewhere for their

644
00:45:11,995 --> 00:45:19,795
Speaker 1: own safety. Also, I've seen a ghost. That's next. This

645
00:45:19,875 --> 00:45:22,955
Speaker 1: is Countdown, the the the.

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Speaker 5: The do Do.

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Speaker 1: Do Do Do Doom. Let's go take two.

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Speaker 3: This is Countdown with Keith Oberman, my crazy friend.

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Speaker 1: Still ahead. On this edition of Countdown. I saw ghost,

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Speaker 1: I mean really a ghost. Not only that, but I

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Speaker 1: recognized him immediately, and I knew why he was there

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Speaker 1: with me. And there was our old commercial radio station

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Speaker 1: run by Cornhill students in Anthaca, New York. And I

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Speaker 1: knew why he was there. He wanted me to save

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Speaker 1: the station. And on top of everything else, the ghost

656
00:46:31,475 --> 00:46:34,955
Speaker 1: was laughing at me things I promised not to tell

657
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Speaker 1: about ghosts. Next first, believe it or not, there's still

658
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Speaker 1: more new idiots talk about the roundup of the mis grants, morons,

659
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Speaker 1: undunning Kruger effects specimens who constitute the latest other worst

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Speaker 1: persons in the world, the bronze worst Shiloh Hendrix on

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Speaker 1: a playground in Minnesota. This white garbage saw a five

662
00:47:01,155 --> 00:47:03,715
Speaker 1: year old black child trying to steal from her bag.

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Speaker 1: Is not a good thing. I am not endorsing anybody

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Speaker 1: stealing from anybody's bag. But Shiloh Hendrix did what anybody

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Speaker 1: would do in this situation, anybody who's a racist scumbag

666
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Speaker 1: who shares a name with a battle started and lost

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Speaker 1: by the racist Confederate trader during the Civil War. She

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Speaker 1: called the five year old boy the N word. When

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Speaker 1: a Somali American man confronted Shiloh Hendrix, she called him

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Speaker 1: the N word. Two there's video. It went viral, and

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Speaker 1: the obvious then happened. Right wing groups raised seven hundred

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for her. The goal is a million. How

673
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Speaker 1: because as the almost equally clownish Timpool you know, Beanie baby,

674
00:47:50,435 --> 00:47:52,995
Speaker 1: the I'm bald and I'm not proud of it guy,

675
00:47:54,115 --> 00:47:57,595
Speaker 1: how he put it quote, she's making money. This sends

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Speaker 1: a message to other white people stop taking racial abuse.

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Speaker 1: White guilt is largely over because in the world of

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Speaker 1: Tim Poole, who is also white garbage, it's the racist

679
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Speaker 1: woman named Shiloh from Minnesota who's the real victim here

680
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Speaker 1: because she's so oppressed because she's white. Of course, she

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Speaker 1: blurted out the N word because in her mind, she's

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Speaker 1: tired of all these N words who are oppressing her

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Speaker 1: by denying her the right to call them the N word.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to quote from the ken Burn Civil War documentary. Now,

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Speaker 1: Shiloh is a Hebrew word meaning peace. I wonder if

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Speaker 1: anybody's told Shiloh Hendrix that fact, and if so, what

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Speaker 1: she called them or what she calls Hebrews. The answer

688
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Speaker 1: to the latter question may be provided by our runner up,

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Speaker 1: Laura Lumer. Shiloh might use the phrase blood and soil

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Speaker 1: to them Hebrews, as did this Trump whisper and school

691
00:48:59,955 --> 00:49:03,155
Speaker 1: shooting denier, the one who has all that plastic melting

692
00:49:03,195 --> 00:49:08,515
Speaker 1: on her face. Lumer. Lumer best described as it is

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Speaker 1: writing about Shri Thanadar, the Indian American congressman from Michigan, who,

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Speaker 1: as I mentioned the other day, has introduced the seven

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Speaker 1: articles of impeachment against Trump. It's not enough for Lumer

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Speaker 1: and the others to lash out against the impeachment. They

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Speaker 1: have to attack the congressman and particularly his ethnicity, and

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Speaker 1: to pretend that their attack, their racism, is actually somebody else's.

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Speaker 1: And they're just giving these unnamed others a platform like

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Speaker 1: Trump talking about a third term. I don't want this,

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Speaker 1: they want it. This is Lumer quote. They are embarrassed

702
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Speaker 1: by Shri Thanadar, So maybe he'll get a primary. I

703
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Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, if he's such a heavy immigrant community,

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Speaker 1: it'd be nice to have an American there, like a

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Speaker 1: real blood and soil American. But if we can't get

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Speaker 1: a real, true blood soil American to represent that district,

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Speaker 1: and it has to be an immigrant, there's got to

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Speaker 1: be at least a patriotic, pro Maga pro Trump, patriot

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Speaker 1: immigrant who lives in that country. There's a terrible hypocrisy

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Speaker 1: here on top of all the hate and the stupidity.

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Speaker 1: Laura Lumer identifies as Jewish, and she dropped two blood

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Speaker 1: and soil references in that quote. Blood and soil, of course,

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Speaker 1: is not just a Nazi rallying cry. It was one

714
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Speaker 1: of the first Nazi rallying cries from the twenties to

715
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Speaker 1: evoke pure blood and arians and all those things. Lumer

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Speaker 1: thinks Thanador is not all those things the Nazis and

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Speaker 1: most of today's Trumpers actually believe Lumer is not. But

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Speaker 1: she hasn't found that out about her quote, friends yet,

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Speaker 1: because she thinks the current twenties are somehow different from

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Speaker 1: the previous twenties. Oh boy, is she in't for a surprise,

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Speaker 1: but the winner the worst. How do you top these

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Speaker 1: racists stupidity? Christopher lan Deputy Secretary of State, the guy

723
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Speaker 1: who theoretically is dumber than Marco Rubio. Apparently even others

724
00:51:13,555 --> 00:51:16,795
Speaker 1: in the Trump Government of the Undead realize that the

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Speaker 1: Deputy Secretary of State, Christopher Landau is a moron. He

726
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Speaker 1: tweeted this alongside a photo of a thermostat. As Deputy

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Speaker 1: Secretary of State, the number two official in our state department,

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Speaker 1: You'd think I'd at least be free to set the

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Speaker 1: temperature in my own office, where I spend some twelve

730
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Speaker 1: hours a day. Well, you'd be wrong. The thermostat is

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Speaker 1: encased in a locked container so that I have to

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Speaker 1: call someone if it's too hot or cold. Seems like

733
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Speaker 1: I should be trusted with this awesome responsibility, but I'll

734
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Speaker 1: guess I'll have to work my way up to that level.

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Speaker 1: Ps He adds. I asked the state official photographer who

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Speaker 1: is in my office for another event to take this picture,

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Speaker 1: because I'm also not allowed to bring a cell phone

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Speaker 1: or camera into my own home office. If you want

739
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Speaker 1: to blame somebody for the lack of trust, for the

740
00:52:13,675 --> 00:52:16,995
Speaker 1: need to lock up the thermostat. Well, you've got to

741
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Speaker 1: keep the thermostat locked, because otherwise Elon Musk will steal

742
00:52:21,595 --> 00:52:24,275
Speaker 1: it and try to build a rocket out of it

743
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Speaker 1: or attach it to his car and charge you twelve

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Speaker 1: thousand dollars for it. If you want to blame somebody

745
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Speaker 1: about the cell phone and the camera, Christopher, go talk

746
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Speaker 1: to Mike Waltz, Pete the keg heg Seth, get him

747
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Speaker 1: on a signal chat and ask them about this, or

748
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Speaker 1: Rubio your boss. But it's interesting because Landou is a

749
00:52:47,835 --> 00:52:51,795
Speaker 1: fascinating case. It may be just about him. It's possible

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Speaker 1: that in the other offices they don't lock up the thermostats,

751
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Speaker 1: lock up your thermostats. Landau's in town. He clerked for

752
00:53:00,515 --> 00:53:06,315
Speaker 1: Clarence Thomas and Scalia, but he went to Harvard, which,

753
00:53:06,355 --> 00:53:08,555
Speaker 1: as you know, his boss Trump is trying to put

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Speaker 1: out of business. So every day he should go into

755
00:53:11,035 --> 00:53:14,355
Speaker 1: that office of his and check not his thermostat, but

756
00:53:14,395 --> 00:53:18,355
Speaker 1: should check whether his bosses hate him that day or

757
00:53:18,515 --> 00:53:21,995
Speaker 1: love him that day. They must issue a calendar or

758
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Speaker 1: something along with instructions on who gets to touch the

759
00:53:26,875 --> 00:53:31,635
Speaker 1: Holy thermist out of Antioch and who, like Chris Landau,

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Speaker 1: does not Christopher, he runs with scissors Landau two days

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Speaker 1: other worse Porthidden. Go to the number one story on

762
00:53:58,435 --> 00:54:02,475
Speaker 1: the countdown and my favorite topic me and I once

763
00:54:02,555 --> 00:54:06,715
Speaker 1: saw a ghost. I have never talked about this before,

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00:54:06,795 --> 00:54:11,675
Speaker 1: not publicly anyway, but I once saw a ghost. And

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00:54:11,715 --> 00:54:14,035
Speaker 1: it wasn't one of these vague things where you're not

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Speaker 1: sure what you're seeing or who you're seeing. I know

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Speaker 1: exactly who the ghost was. I will get to this story,

768
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Speaker 1: but first, the setup requires a cassette tape I found

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Speaker 1: that dates from February nineteen seventy seven. And the damnedest

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Speaker 1: thing about this cassette tape is, if you were familiar

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Speaker 1: at all with cassette tapes, they used to have little

772
00:54:35,075 --> 00:54:37,755
Speaker 1: pinholes at the top, little pieces of plastic that you

773
00:54:37,755 --> 00:54:41,075
Speaker 1: were supposed to break out or break off or punch

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Speaker 1: through after you were done recording on the tape so

775
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Speaker 1: you could not accidentally record over the tape. And when

776
00:54:47,035 --> 00:54:49,875
Speaker 1: I found this cassette the other day, these little things

777
00:54:49,915 --> 00:54:53,595
Speaker 1: that you had to make not intact anymore, were still intact.

778
00:54:53,835 --> 00:54:57,595
Speaker 1: So this tape has survived not only intact since nineteen

779
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Speaker 1: seventy seven, but it has not been accidentally erased even

780
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Speaker 1: though I left it eligible to be accidentally erased every

781
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Speaker 1: day since February nineteen seventy seven, and it contains, among

782
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Speaker 1: other things, the voice of the ghost. The setup here

783
00:55:12,915 --> 00:55:17,235
Speaker 1: is The radio station involved is called WINR in Binghamton,

784
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Speaker 1: New York. The man you will hear calling himself Tom

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00:55:20,755 --> 00:55:24,195
Speaker 1: Daniels is actually named Glenn Cornelius. He called himself Tom

786
00:55:24,275 --> 00:55:28,035
Speaker 1: Daniels because that's what the jingle package said, and they

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Speaker 1: had a variety of Tom Daniels's over the years at

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Speaker 1: WINR in Binghamton. He was our friend Glenn who worked

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Speaker 1: at WVBR, the Cornell radio station. I have mentioned m

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Speaker 1: teen thousand times on this podcast. He was going to

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Speaker 1: be the program director and tried to become the general

792
00:55:45,075 --> 00:55:47,795
Speaker 1: manager of the station. And he was my original frenemy

793
00:55:48,195 --> 00:55:51,715
Speaker 1: best friends. Helped me out in a thousand different situations

794
00:55:51,795 --> 00:55:54,435
Speaker 1: as I did he and we once had a fist

795
00:55:54,435 --> 00:55:59,035
Speaker 1: fight over a girl. He won the girl, and of

796
00:55:59,115 --> 00:56:02,075
Speaker 1: course that turned out to be the best thing he

797
00:56:02,155 --> 00:56:05,235
Speaker 1: ever did for me, but that's another story for another time.

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00:56:05,275 --> 00:56:08,795
Speaker 1: As they say so, Glenn is portraying Tom Daniels, and

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Speaker 1: one weekend in the winter of nineteen seventy seven. He

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Speaker 1: brought his friends me, Peter shack now and Pat Lyons

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Speaker 1: that's now Patrick J. Lyons, executive Foreign Desk editor of

802
00:56:19,555 --> 00:56:22,075
Speaker 1: The New York Times. He brought the three of us

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Speaker 1: down there with him to see a real radio station,

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Speaker 1: and he put Peter and I on the air, Peter

805
00:56:26,915 --> 00:56:30,435
Speaker 1: doing a newscast and me doing the sportscast. The only

806
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Speaker 1: part of this before I play this tape that requires

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00:56:32,995 --> 00:56:36,755
Speaker 1: a setup is the explanation of the vitamin B twelve joke.

808
00:56:37,275 --> 00:56:40,595
Speaker 1: Peter used to introduce me on the newscast at WVBR,

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Speaker 1: and he used to ask me a trivia question every Tuesday,

810
00:56:43,795 --> 00:56:46,795
Speaker 1: and got so frustrated in my always getting the answers

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Speaker 1: to his trivia questions that he changed the trivia question

812
00:56:49,835 --> 00:56:52,555
Speaker 1: from a sports trivia question to a question, the answer

813
00:56:52,595 --> 00:56:56,955
Speaker 1: to which was vitamin B twelve. And I didn't get it,

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00:56:57,435 --> 00:57:00,235
Speaker 1: and it became a running joke inside the studios of

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Speaker 1: WVBR for quite a while. That's the setup. And then

816
00:57:04,995 --> 00:57:09,155
Speaker 1: there is the additional detail that Glenn Cornelius portraying Tom

817
00:57:09,235 --> 00:57:12,355
Speaker 1: Daniels on this next tape was the ghost I.

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00:57:12,315 --> 00:57:15,035
Speaker 4: Saw sixteen minutes after one o'clock in the morning, on

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Speaker 4: a Sunday, which is now February twentieth, nineteen hundred and

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Speaker 4: seventy seven. My name is Tom Daniels, and I have

821
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Speaker 4: a question for you. If I was as old as

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00:57:23,115 --> 00:57:25,315
Speaker 4: Joe Namath's football number, how old would I be?

823
00:57:25,875 --> 00:57:27,675
Speaker 3: Well, of course I would be twelve.

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00:57:27,755 --> 00:57:32,355
Speaker 4: And on that note, we'll have the sports.

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00:57:33,235 --> 00:57:34,955
Speaker 3: Here's Wyon r Sports.

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Speaker 7: The Oaklona's have sol relief pitcher Paul Lindblad to the

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Speaker 7: Texas Rangers, despite Baseball Commissioner Bowie kwans edict that no

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Speaker 7: such players sales be made without his approval. Oakland owner

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Speaker 7: Charlie Finley, who likes to le jingle very much never

830
00:57:48,675 --> 00:57:50,955
Speaker 7: one of Kewan's best friends, says he'll ignore hwes ruly

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Speaker 7: and may just sell ace pitcher.

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Speaker 1: Vital Blue too.

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00:57:52,995 --> 00:57:56,115
Speaker 7: Montreal expos on the sports scoreboard. Last night in the NBA,

834
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Speaker 7: the New York Nets came from behind to beat the

835
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Speaker 7: New York Knicks eighty six eighty five. It was Cleveland

836
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Speaker 7: ninety two Phoenix eighty eight, twenty three points and eighteen

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Speaker 7: rebounds for Jim Jones. Mac Calvin, signed as a free

838
00:58:05,315 --> 00:58:07,195
Speaker 7: agent the other day by Denver, led the Nuggets to

839
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Speaker 7: a one thirty three one twenty four win over Portland.

840
00:58:09,635 --> 00:58:12,315
Speaker 7: Some other scores Washington one oz five, Detroit ninety five,

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Speaker 7: Buffalo one o three, Seattle one hundred and Kansas City

842
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Speaker 7: one fifteen Houston one oh nine.

843
00:58:16,955 --> 00:58:18,115
Speaker 3: In college hoop action.

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Speaker 7: Anthony Roberts Pty in sixty six points as Oral Roberts

845
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Speaker 7: beat North Carolina A and T won ten to sixty four,

846
00:58:24,275 --> 00:58:27,435
Speaker 7: which Aitaw State ruined. Marquette coach Al McGuire's last home game,

847
00:58:27,435 --> 00:58:29,795
Speaker 7: beating the Warriors seventy five to sixty four. And some

848
00:58:29,875 --> 00:58:33,755
Speaker 7: other scores Kentucky ninety, LSU seventy six, Oregon toppling UCLA

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Speaker 7: sixty six six AS fifty five rather and it was

850
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Speaker 7: Michigan eighty nine Minnesota seventy on the ice. Last night

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00:58:39,075 --> 00:58:41,115
Speaker 7: in the NHL, Rene ro Bear scored a late goal

852
00:58:41,235 --> 00:58:43,515
Speaker 7: lead Buffalo over Detroit two to one. The New York

853
00:58:43,555 --> 00:58:45,955
Speaker 7: Islanders smashed the Rangers by the score of five two.

854
00:58:46,235 --> 00:58:49,355
Speaker 7: Yvon Cornwaia scored two goals, including number four hundred, as

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Speaker 7: Montreal beat.

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Speaker 1: Philly five to two.

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00:58:51,355 --> 00:58:53,675
Speaker 7: Rookie Bernie Federko he has a funny name, scored his

858
00:58:53,715 --> 00:58:55,835
Speaker 7: second hat trick in only two weeks of play as

859
00:58:55,875 --> 00:58:59,155
Speaker 7: Saint Louis toppled Washington Will four to one, and Derek Sanderson,

860
00:58:59,195 --> 00:59:01,155
Speaker 7: back in the NHL with Vancouver, had a goal and

861
00:59:01,195 --> 00:59:03,555
Speaker 7: an assist tonight as the Canucks beat at Lanta five

862
00:59:03,595 --> 00:59:06,755
Speaker 7: to oneis Pittsburgh in Toronto six to sixth tie in

863
00:59:06,795 --> 00:59:10,115
Speaker 7: Minnesota Beach Chicago six to two, and that's wyn r

864
00:59:10,275 --> 00:59:18,155
Speaker 7: sports great sister.

865
00:59:19,475 --> 00:59:22,475
Speaker 1: So I will come back to that cassette from February

866
00:59:22,595 --> 00:59:24,715
Speaker 1: nineteen seventy seven later on to give you a few

867
00:59:24,715 --> 00:59:27,475
Speaker 1: more laughs. But now to the little story about how

868
00:59:28,075 --> 00:59:34,995
Speaker 1: I saw a ghost and it was Glenn. As I said, frenemies,

869
00:59:36,715 --> 00:59:40,075
Speaker 1: I think the last conversation we actually had sometime in

870
00:59:40,115 --> 00:59:43,315
Speaker 1: the nineteen eighties was about the fact that I graduated

871
00:59:43,355 --> 00:59:46,675
Speaker 1: on time, beating odds of probably five million to one,

872
00:59:46,915 --> 00:59:50,995
Speaker 1: and he did not graduate on time. That was probably

873
00:59:50,995 --> 00:59:54,915
Speaker 1: an even bet. But nevertheless, at the actual graduation ceremony

874
00:59:54,915 --> 00:59:57,395
Speaker 1: at Cornell with me and my cap and gown drinking

875
00:59:57,475 --> 00:59:59,395
Speaker 1: champagne at ten o'clock in the morning with all the

876
00:59:59,435 --> 01:00:02,515
Speaker 1: other graduates and just happy to get out by hook

877
01:00:02,595 --> 01:00:06,835
Speaker 1: or by crook, Glenn looked up towards me and had

878
01:00:06,835 --> 01:00:10,515
Speaker 1: the forlorn look of sadness that I can't quite describe,

879
01:00:10,795 --> 01:00:14,035
Speaker 1: and I may have given him a popular three thousand

880
01:00:14,075 --> 01:00:18,995
Speaker 1: year old Anglo Saxon gesture involving fingers. Later on, in

881
01:00:19,035 --> 01:00:21,195
Speaker 1: what I think was the last conversation we ever had,

882
01:00:21,675 --> 01:00:24,155
Speaker 1: he said he deserved that, and I said, yes, you did.

883
01:00:24,795 --> 01:00:27,075
Speaker 1: On the other hand, I shouldn't have done it. And

884
01:00:27,115 --> 01:00:30,195
Speaker 1: he said, no, you probably shouldn't have. And that was it.

885
01:00:32,315 --> 01:00:36,515
Speaker 1: That would have been somewhere in the eighties. Early in

886
01:00:36,595 --> 01:00:40,835
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety six, Glenn, who was then thirty nine years old,

887
01:00:41,115 --> 01:00:44,715
Speaker 1: died suddenly while he was giving a lecture about radio

888
01:00:44,835 --> 01:00:48,115
Speaker 1: at Katz Radio in New York. He had a hidden

889
01:00:48,195 --> 01:00:51,715
Speaker 1: heart defect that could not have been identified, certainly not then,

890
01:00:51,835 --> 01:00:54,635
Speaker 1: except in the autopsy. It killed him before he hit

891
01:00:54,675 --> 01:00:57,875
Speaker 1: the floor. And so the rest of us, Pat and

892
01:00:57,915 --> 01:01:00,555
Speaker 1: Peter and all the rest of us from that era

893
01:01:00,715 --> 01:01:06,115
Speaker 1: at Cornell at WVBR reunited recreating a film. And as always,

894
01:01:06,115 --> 01:01:07,675
Speaker 1: when you get to recreate a film, it is not

895
01:01:07,795 --> 01:01:09,395
Speaker 1: the one you want. It is, in fact the one

896
01:01:09,395 --> 01:01:12,435
Speaker 1: you want the least. And it was the big Chill.

897
01:01:13,755 --> 01:01:17,115
Speaker 1: And so we said goodbye to Glenn. And I don't

898
01:01:17,155 --> 01:01:19,315
Speaker 1: think a month has passed, maybe not a week has

899
01:01:19,355 --> 01:01:24,555
Speaker 1: passed without my thinking of him. And then there was

900
01:01:24,595 --> 01:01:28,675
Speaker 1: the time I saw him after he died. In nineteen

901
01:01:28,755 --> 01:01:30,995
Speaker 1: ninety seven, Dan Patrick and I wrote a book about

902
01:01:30,995 --> 01:01:35,275
Speaker 1: sports Center called Surprisingly Enough, This is Sports Center, and

903
01:01:36,115 --> 01:01:40,595
Speaker 1: simultaneous with its publication, accidentally with its publication, I was

904
01:01:40,635 --> 01:01:42,955
Speaker 1: invited to come back to Cornell for the first time

905
01:01:42,955 --> 01:01:47,755
Speaker 1: in fifteen years to give the graduation party, the annual

906
01:01:47,875 --> 01:01:53,955
Speaker 1: graduation party speech at the graduation dinner of the Cornell

907
01:01:54,155 --> 01:01:57,555
Speaker 1: Daily Sun newspaper, which I had worked for for one

908
01:01:57,635 --> 01:02:00,675
Speaker 1: day in nineteen seventy five before. They said, we have

909
01:02:00,755 --> 01:02:02,835
Speaker 1: to choose between us or the radio station that you

910
01:02:02,875 --> 01:02:04,675
Speaker 1: also want to work for, and I said, well that

911
01:02:04,675 --> 01:02:08,595
Speaker 1: that's damn stupid, especially since the Cornell station. The radio

912
01:02:08,635 --> 01:02:11,995
Speaker 1: station is just kind of a slight walk up the hill,

913
01:02:12,235 --> 01:02:15,835
Speaker 1: but the one to the Cornell Daily Sun newspaper is

914
01:02:15,915 --> 01:02:18,275
Speaker 1: then down a twenty minute hill and then back up

915
01:02:18,275 --> 01:02:21,555
Speaker 1: a twenty minute hill. I'm going into radio in any event.

916
01:02:21,555 --> 01:02:23,115
Speaker 1: They asked me to come up and give a speech,

917
01:02:23,515 --> 01:02:27,355
Speaker 1: and I arrived by car. I said, send a car

918
01:02:27,395 --> 01:02:30,555
Speaker 1: for me, and I brought my stuff with me and

919
01:02:30,635 --> 01:02:34,515
Speaker 1: got into the Cornell Hotel and checked in and had

920
01:02:34,555 --> 01:02:36,995
Speaker 1: some time before my speech that night, and I went

921
01:02:36,995 --> 01:02:42,195
Speaker 1: over to WVDR, where I had not been to see anybody,

922
01:02:42,395 --> 01:02:44,915
Speaker 1: not since Glenn's death, in fact, not since nineteen eighty two.

923
01:02:44,995 --> 01:02:47,595
Speaker 1: It had been fifteen years since i'd been there. Now

924
01:02:47,635 --> 01:02:50,515
Speaker 1: I had this book, I had just done the Boston

925
01:02:50,515 --> 01:02:52,675
Speaker 1: Market commercial, which made me a lot of money, and

926
01:02:52,795 --> 01:02:55,035
Speaker 1: I was and I think it was already out. Then

927
01:02:55,075 --> 01:02:58,115
Speaker 1: I was going to leave ESPN to go somewhere else

928
01:02:58,115 --> 01:02:59,995
Speaker 1: with even more money, and I was beginning to run

929
01:03:00,075 --> 01:03:03,755
Speaker 1: into tax problems. And that sounds dull and conceded, but

930
01:03:04,035 --> 01:03:07,835
Speaker 1: there's a elevance to the story. So I get it

931
01:03:08,235 --> 01:03:12,635
Speaker 1: to the radio station at WVBR to twenty seven Linden Avenue.

932
01:03:13,755 --> 01:03:16,435
Speaker 1: It had not been cleaned since my last appearance there

933
01:03:16,435 --> 01:03:19,475
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty two, and probably had not in fact

934
01:03:19,475 --> 01:03:22,275
Speaker 1: been cleaned since my first appearance there in nineteen seventy five.

935
01:03:22,315 --> 01:03:24,275
Speaker 1: And I buzzed my way in and the first person

936
01:03:24,355 --> 01:03:26,875
Speaker 1: I saw was a man named Phil Shapiro, who was

937
01:03:26,915 --> 01:03:30,355
Speaker 1: a salesman who had come to WVBR in about nineteen

938
01:03:30,395 --> 01:03:34,035
Speaker 1: sixty seven and never left. He managed to make a living,

939
01:03:34,435 --> 01:03:38,395
Speaker 1: just barely a living, selling time on a nominally college

940
01:03:38,475 --> 01:03:41,315
Speaker 1: radio station that had advertising. I won't go into the

941
01:03:41,355 --> 01:03:45,075
Speaker 1: explanation as to why we had advertising. But Phil Shapiro

942
01:03:45,355 --> 01:03:48,955
Speaker 1: stopped and stared at me, and he said, what are

943
01:03:48,995 --> 01:03:51,395
Speaker 1: you doing here? He also did the folk show every

944
01:03:51,435 --> 01:03:54,715
Speaker 1: Sunday night, the Folk Music Live Festival, show Bound for

945
01:03:54,755 --> 01:03:58,555
Speaker 1: Glory from the law school at Cornell, and he had

946
01:03:58,555 --> 01:04:00,395
Speaker 1: one of those voices, and he did a lot of

947
01:04:00,435 --> 01:04:03,915
Speaker 1: commercials and he just had enough money to get by.

948
01:04:04,155 --> 01:04:06,195
Speaker 1: And he said, what are you doing here? And I said,

949
01:04:06,235 --> 01:04:07,035
Speaker 1: I used to work here?

950
01:04:07,075 --> 01:04:07,475
Speaker 3: Remember?

951
01:04:07,635 --> 01:04:10,115
Speaker 1: He said, no, of course, of course, of course we

952
01:04:10,195 --> 01:04:13,115
Speaker 1: remember you. What are you doing here now? I said, well,

953
01:04:13,155 --> 01:04:15,075
Speaker 1: I'm up here to give the speech to the Daily

954
01:04:15,195 --> 01:04:17,835
Speaker 1: Sun people. And you know that's of course I'm going

955
01:04:17,875 --> 01:04:19,835
Speaker 1: to come over here now. I walked around campus for

956
01:04:19,835 --> 01:04:21,875
Speaker 1: about five minutes and here I am, just like the

957
01:04:21,915 --> 01:04:23,955
Speaker 1: old days. He goes, no, why are you here today?

958
01:04:24,555 --> 01:04:26,915
Speaker 1: And I said, I'm not getting your point. He said,

959
01:04:27,315 --> 01:04:31,155
Speaker 1: we are holding a Board of director's emergency meeting in

960
01:04:31,435 --> 01:04:34,075
Speaker 1: one hour, and we're going to shut the radio station

961
01:04:34,195 --> 01:04:38,475
Speaker 1: down for the summer. And I said, what, You can't

962
01:04:38,515 --> 01:04:40,555
Speaker 1: shut the radio station down for the summer. It'll never

963
01:04:40,595 --> 01:04:43,355
Speaker 1: go back on the air, He said, I know, I said, well,

964
01:04:43,395 --> 01:04:46,715
Speaker 1: what happened. Well, now we go to the explanation as

965
01:04:46,715 --> 01:04:49,795
Speaker 1: to what happened. They ran out of money, but they

966
01:04:49,795 --> 01:04:51,835
Speaker 1: didn't run out of money. The place was still making

967
01:04:51,875 --> 01:04:54,675
Speaker 1: advertising money enough to make a profit every year, although

968
01:04:54,675 --> 01:04:56,915
Speaker 1: we couldn't keep the profit because of the hybrid nature

969
01:04:57,115 --> 01:05:00,275
Speaker 1: of the radio. You don't care about this part. They

970
01:05:00,315 --> 01:05:03,435
Speaker 1: had borrowed so much money in the eighties for various

971
01:05:03,475 --> 01:05:06,195
Speaker 1: capital projects that the the debt was killing the radio

972
01:05:06,315 --> 01:05:08,995
Speaker 1: station and the only solution they could come up with

973
01:05:09,275 --> 01:05:11,995
Speaker 1: was to take the radio station off the air for

974
01:05:12,155 --> 01:05:15,235
Speaker 1: the summer and then bring it back in the fall

975
01:05:15,235 --> 01:05:18,715
Speaker 1: when the students came back and there were more listeners

976
01:05:18,715 --> 01:05:21,875
Speaker 1: and therefore more profits to make, or some profits to make,

977
01:05:21,875 --> 01:05:23,755
Speaker 1: and they had a chance of paying off the debt.

978
01:05:24,875 --> 01:05:26,755
Speaker 1: And we all knew that if the radio station went

979
01:05:26,795 --> 01:05:28,275
Speaker 1: off the air, it would never go back on the air.

980
01:05:28,795 --> 01:05:31,675
Speaker 1: They would sell the license to somebody else, carve up

981
01:05:31,715 --> 01:05:36,835
Speaker 1: the money, take some sort of AM carrier, current radio signal,

982
01:05:36,955 --> 01:05:42,395
Speaker 1: and reduce this factory of broadcasters that everybody that you

983
01:05:42,435 --> 01:05:45,515
Speaker 1: could think of, whoever went to Cornell and went into broadcasting,

984
01:05:45,915 --> 01:05:49,675
Speaker 1: went through. They're going to take it off the air,

985
01:05:50,275 --> 01:05:53,595
Speaker 1: the place that I owed my entire career to, and

986
01:05:53,675 --> 01:05:57,155
Speaker 1: I sat down and listened to Phil, and he said,

987
01:05:57,235 --> 01:05:59,195
Speaker 1: let me get the general manager. And they brought out

988
01:05:59,195 --> 01:06:02,115
Speaker 1: this fella from the class of ninety eight, and we

989
01:06:02,195 --> 01:06:06,875
Speaker 1: sat down in the business office. And the business office

990
01:06:07,115 --> 01:06:10,235
Speaker 1: was really just big enough for four large desks, and

991
01:06:10,275 --> 01:06:12,795
Speaker 1: the promotion director had a desk, and I believe the

992
01:06:12,915 --> 01:06:15,955
Speaker 1: music director may have had a desk, and the program

993
01:06:15,995 --> 01:06:18,155
Speaker 1: director had a desk over in the other corner. The

994
01:06:18,275 --> 01:06:21,355
Speaker 1: fourth corner was saved for the copying machine. That's how

995
01:06:21,395 --> 01:06:27,355
Speaker 1: small a business office it was. That far corner, essentially

996
01:06:27,395 --> 01:06:30,835
Speaker 1: the upper left hand corner of this office had been

997
01:06:30,875 --> 01:06:34,795
Speaker 1: Glenn's desk, and every time, for probably two years, even

998
01:06:34,835 --> 01:06:37,635
Speaker 1: before he was program director of the radio station, when

999
01:06:37,635 --> 01:06:40,315
Speaker 1: I would go into this office, I would see Glenn

1000
01:06:40,395 --> 01:06:43,715
Speaker 1: on the phone with his feed up talking to a

1001
01:06:43,875 --> 01:06:47,235
Speaker 1: music rep from Los Angeles, trying to get free radio

1002
01:06:48,435 --> 01:06:53,155
Speaker 1: players of various kinds and performances or records or least

1003
01:06:53,315 --> 01:06:57,275
Speaker 1: or tickets to concerts or something, and ultimately to get

1004
01:06:57,355 --> 01:07:00,315
Speaker 1: himself a career in the business, which I admired him for.

1005
01:07:00,475 --> 01:07:02,915
Speaker 1: He was really good at it and it worked, but

1006
01:07:02,995 --> 01:07:05,715
Speaker 1: I could see him then, and it occurred to me

1007
01:07:05,755 --> 01:07:10,035
Speaker 1: as I sat down, to my surprise, that I could

1008
01:07:10,075 --> 01:07:14,475
Speaker 1: see him now, not if I look directly at the

1009
01:07:14,555 --> 01:07:17,635
Speaker 1: corner of what was his desk, but only if I

1010
01:07:17,755 --> 01:07:20,915
Speaker 1: maintained my eye contact with the general manager of the

1011
01:07:20,995 --> 01:07:24,115
Speaker 1: radio station and with Phil Shapiro, who was basically explaining

1012
01:07:24,155 --> 01:07:25,995
Speaker 1: to me the two of them were that the radio

1013
01:07:25,995 --> 01:07:29,275
Speaker 1: station was going to go out of business shortly like

1014
01:07:29,675 --> 01:07:32,155
Speaker 1: forty five minutes from now, and I just happened to

1015
01:07:32,235 --> 01:07:35,515
Speaker 1: wander in for the first time in literally fifteen years,

1016
01:07:35,755 --> 01:07:37,955
Speaker 1: on the day they were going to vote to take

1017
01:07:37,995 --> 01:07:41,755
Speaker 1: the radio station off the air. So that was Phil

1018
01:07:41,755 --> 01:07:45,035
Speaker 1: Shapiro's question, what are you doing here today? I said,

1019
01:07:46,675 --> 01:07:50,115
Speaker 1: I don't know. Now I begin to understand what I

1020
01:07:50,195 --> 01:07:53,435
Speaker 1: was doing there, because when I did not look into

1021
01:07:53,475 --> 01:07:56,195
Speaker 1: the corner that had Glenn's desk in it, I could

1022
01:07:56,235 --> 01:07:59,355
Speaker 1: see him quite clearly, with his feet up on the

1023
01:07:59,435 --> 01:08:02,675
Speaker 1: phone and now hanging the phone up, and now putting

1024
01:08:02,675 --> 01:08:05,355
Speaker 1: his feet down, and just sort of sitting back in

1025
01:08:05,395 --> 01:08:09,075
Speaker 1: the chair with his hands behind his head, rocking back

1026
01:08:09,115 --> 01:08:13,155
Speaker 1: and forth in that chair and smiling and smiling more

1027
01:08:13,235 --> 01:08:16,115
Speaker 1: and more broadly at me. And he was there and

1028
01:08:16,195 --> 01:08:19,075
Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever told anybody about this, but

1029
01:08:19,195 --> 01:08:21,675
Speaker 1: I could see him. If I snapped over and tried

1030
01:08:21,715 --> 01:08:24,875
Speaker 1: to catch him, he wasn't there. If I looked at

1031
01:08:24,875 --> 01:08:27,635
Speaker 1: the general manager and at Phil Shapiro, he was there.

1032
01:08:28,395 --> 01:08:30,475
Speaker 1: And they began to explain to me the whole history

1033
01:08:30,475 --> 01:08:33,955
Speaker 1: of the ten or fifteen year decline of the finances

1034
01:08:33,995 --> 01:08:36,715
Speaker 1: of a WVBR, which apparently was the last radio station

1035
01:08:36,755 --> 01:08:39,075
Speaker 1: in this country to try to go top forty for

1036
01:08:39,115 --> 01:08:42,795
Speaker 1: some reason in the mid nineteen eighties. And that's where

1037
01:08:43,195 --> 01:08:46,275
Speaker 1: the financial problem, which was not truly a financial problem.

1038
01:08:46,315 --> 01:08:50,075
Speaker 1: If they could get rid of the debt, they'd be

1039
01:08:50,155 --> 01:08:53,315
Speaker 1: making money. I mean, it sounds academic, and for my

1040
01:08:53,475 --> 01:08:57,595
Speaker 1: financial cuman, which is almost nothing, it is kind of academic.

1041
01:08:57,635 --> 01:09:00,395
Speaker 1: But literally, if they could just wipe out this debt,

1042
01:09:00,435 --> 01:09:01,955
Speaker 1: but there was no way to wipe out the debt,

1043
01:09:03,075 --> 01:09:05,075
Speaker 1: they could never get out from under it. And that

1044
01:09:05,235 --> 01:09:07,635
Speaker 1: was what the meeting was about. And the votes were

1045
01:09:07,635 --> 01:09:09,835
Speaker 1: there to shut the radio station down and there would

1046
01:09:09,835 --> 01:09:13,475
Speaker 1: be no chance it could ever resume. It had to

1047
01:09:13,475 --> 01:09:16,275
Speaker 1: stay on the air during the summer, for if no

1048
01:09:16,395 --> 01:09:19,075
Speaker 1: other reason, in the summer was when the real training

1049
01:09:19,155 --> 01:09:23,035
Speaker 1: was done. The people who aspired to be professionals in radio,

1050
01:09:23,555 --> 01:09:25,635
Speaker 1: stayed in Ithaca, New York for the summer and were

1051
01:09:25,675 --> 01:09:28,715
Speaker 1: on the air five, six days a week as disc jockeys,

1052
01:09:28,755 --> 01:09:33,915
Speaker 1: as newscasters, as sportscasters, as salesmen, as running a radio

1053
01:09:33,955 --> 01:09:37,395
Speaker 1: station for three months in a small town. I did

1054
01:09:37,395 --> 01:09:40,715
Speaker 1: it for one summer, and it doubled my ability in

1055
01:09:40,755 --> 01:09:46,195
Speaker 1: three months. And so everything I had owed to WVBR,

1056
01:09:46,675 --> 01:09:51,675
Speaker 1: and I knew it, and the ghost in the corner

1057
01:09:51,755 --> 01:09:56,275
Speaker 1: knew it too. And now I'm waiting for the punchline

1058
01:09:56,275 --> 01:10:01,235
Speaker 1: to this how much money they have and how much

1059
01:10:01,275 --> 01:10:04,715
Speaker 1: money they owe, and what the debt service is, and

1060
01:10:04,715 --> 01:10:07,795
Speaker 1: how much money there is standing between them and the

1061
01:10:07,835 --> 01:10:12,675
Speaker 1: apocalypse of shutting down for the summer. And I'm waiting

1062
01:10:12,715 --> 01:10:17,395
Speaker 1: to hear half a million dollars, seven hundred and fifty

1063
01:10:17,435 --> 01:10:24,635
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, even three hundred thousand dollars something enormous. Remember

1064
01:10:24,675 --> 01:10:27,235
Speaker 1: at ESPN doing Sports Center, I never made three hundred

1065
01:10:27,235 --> 01:10:29,195
Speaker 1: thousand dollars, not in the nineties, and I was the

1066
01:10:29,275 --> 01:10:33,715
Speaker 1: highest paid guy doing SportsCenter. They didn't even offer me

1067
01:10:34,395 --> 01:10:37,035
Speaker 1: half a million dollars to stay in nineteen ninety seven. There,

1068
01:10:37,075 --> 01:10:39,475
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pay anybody to do SportsCenter for

1069
01:10:39,515 --> 01:10:46,075
Speaker 1: that much money. So I'm listening, and the only thing

1070
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Speaker 1: that occurred to me was, well, maybe maybe I can

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Speaker 1: throw some money at it and we can delay this

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Speaker 1: a couple of weeks. Maybe, because what had happened was

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Speaker 1: because of the book, which made me some money, and

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Speaker 1: that commercial when I fell off the cliff, the Boston

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Speaker 1: Market commercial which I've made, had made me some money. Two,

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01:11:05,435 --> 01:11:10,275
Speaker 1: my tax guy had told me that I had to

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Speaker 1: find a charitable donation to make to a nonprofit of

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Speaker 1: some sort. And WVBR qualified as a nonprofit because of

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01:11:21,795 --> 01:11:26,315
Speaker 1: this byzantine tax structure and legal status granted by it

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01:11:26,995 --> 01:11:30,835
Speaker 1: the FCC to it in nineteen thirty nine. It had

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Speaker 1: those properties. But what good would it be if they

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01:11:33,795 --> 01:11:36,755
Speaker 1: needed ten million dollars I had to give away, according

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01:11:36,795 --> 01:11:42,475
Speaker 1: to my accountant, about fifty thousand dollars, or just give

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01:11:42,475 --> 01:11:45,235
Speaker 1: it to the irs. So he said, be on the lookout.

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01:11:45,275 --> 01:11:47,075
Speaker 1: You have about a month to make up your mind.

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01:11:47,995 --> 01:11:50,595
Speaker 1: And I listened to this nightmare. I listened to Glenn's

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01:11:50,675 --> 01:11:53,635
Speaker 1: radio station about to go off the air, and Peter's

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01:11:53,755 --> 01:11:56,915
Speaker 1: radio station, and Pats radio station, and my radio station

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01:11:57,395 --> 01:11:59,755
Speaker 1: going off the air because among other things. I hadn't

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01:11:59,755 --> 01:12:04,035
Speaker 1: paid any attention to it for fifteen years. And Joyce

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01:12:04,075 --> 01:12:09,115
Speaker 1: Brothers worked at that radio station, not with me, she

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01:12:09,235 --> 01:12:13,275
Speaker 1: was some years before. And I listened to this, and

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01:12:13,355 --> 01:12:16,315
Speaker 1: in the corner of my eye, in the corner of

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01:12:16,315 --> 01:12:18,955
Speaker 1: the office, I could see Glenn, and I what could

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01:12:19,035 --> 01:12:22,435
Speaker 1: not understand about this? It made absolute perfect sense to

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Speaker 1: me that Glenn Cornelius's ghost would be in the corner

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Speaker 1: of the business office at WVBR, and my first appearance

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Speaker 1: there in fifteen years, when I happened somehow to have

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01:12:31,115 --> 01:12:35,675
Speaker 1: been driven there in one hour shy of the moment

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Speaker 1: that they were going to take the radio station off

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Speaker 1: the air. That I happened to be there that day,

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Speaker 1: I could understand why Glenn's ghost would be standing there,

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01:12:42,355 --> 01:12:44,995
Speaker 1: or sitting there in the corner, staring at me. What

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01:12:45,075 --> 01:12:47,195
Speaker 1: I could not understand was why he had a smile

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01:12:47,275 --> 01:12:49,795
Speaker 1: on his face. This did not seem to make any sense.

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01:12:49,955 --> 01:12:51,915
Speaker 1: That was the part that disturbed me, Not that I

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01:12:51,955 --> 01:12:54,475
Speaker 1: could see him even though he had been dead for

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01:12:54,515 --> 01:12:57,555
Speaker 1: more than a year. Not that part. It was that

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01:12:57,635 --> 01:13:04,355
Speaker 1: he was smiling at me. That's when I cut to

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01:13:04,355 --> 01:13:07,275
Speaker 1: the chain with Phil Shapiro and the general manager of

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01:13:07,315 --> 01:13:11,675
Speaker 1: the radio station. I said, how much do you need

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01:13:13,515 --> 01:13:16,075
Speaker 1: and I'm waiting for the answer three hundred and seventy

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01:13:16,195 --> 01:13:19,515
Speaker 1: nine thousand foot and the guy goes, well, I haven't

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01:13:19,595 --> 01:13:21,955
Speaker 1: checked it today, and I'm thinking, oh my god, it

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01:13:22,075 --> 01:13:25,155
Speaker 1: goes up every day. Oh my god, why is Glenn

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01:13:25,195 --> 01:13:28,715
Speaker 1: laughing at this? It can't possibly be something I can

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01:13:28,795 --> 01:13:31,995
Speaker 1: help with. It'll be a drop in the bucket even

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01:13:31,995 --> 01:13:35,115
Speaker 1: if I had to, he said, But I think the

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01:13:35,195 --> 01:13:36,995
Speaker 1: last time I looked earlier in the week, it was

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Speaker 1: forty nine, nine hundred and eighty three dollars and twenty

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01:13:42,395 --> 01:13:49,795
Speaker 1: seven cents. Now I saw Glenn's ghost burst into laughter silently.

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01:13:49,875 --> 01:13:55,435
Speaker 1: Of course I burst into laughter full volume. I said,

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01:13:55,555 --> 01:13:59,035
Speaker 1: say that again, hewa forty nine thousand and nine and

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01:13:59,075 --> 01:14:03,835
Speaker 1: twenty seven cents. And I said, Okay, you're not shutting

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01:14:03,835 --> 01:14:07,515
Speaker 1: down the radio state on my watch? Can you keep

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01:14:07,555 --> 01:14:14,515
Speaker 1: it open until tomorrow morning? Without any help? Well, I suppose,

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01:14:15,395 --> 01:14:20,795
Speaker 1: I said, okay, Because here's the deal. My accountant wants

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01:14:20,835 --> 01:14:24,515
Speaker 1: me to give away fifty thousand dollars in the next month.

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01:14:24,875 --> 01:14:27,555
Speaker 1: And I happen to be here an hour before the

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01:14:27,595 --> 01:14:29,715
Speaker 1: meeting at which you're going to shut down because you

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01:14:29,715 --> 01:14:32,235
Speaker 1: don't have fifty thousand dollars. So here's what I propose

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01:14:32,315 --> 01:14:35,195
Speaker 1: to do. In addition to the fact that I had

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01:14:35,235 --> 01:14:38,035
Speaker 1: to pay for the limo to take me up here

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01:14:38,075 --> 01:14:40,995
Speaker 1: from New York, and I thought it was going to

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01:14:40,995 --> 01:14:45,115
Speaker 1: be one check for the trip up and one check

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01:14:45,155 --> 01:14:48,475
Speaker 1: for the trip back. In fact, they demanded the round

1137
01:14:48,475 --> 01:14:50,315
Speaker 1: trip in advance, so when I got out of the

1138
01:14:50,355 --> 01:14:52,515
Speaker 1: car an hour ago, I had to give them a

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01:14:52,675 --> 01:14:56,115
Speaker 1: round trip fee on one check. I still have one

1140
01:14:56,155 --> 01:14:58,915
Speaker 1: of my corporate checks back in the hotel, so I

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01:14:58,995 --> 01:15:01,915
Speaker 1: have a check, a blank check, and I have a

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01:15:02,035 --> 01:15:05,475
Speaker 1: need to give away fifty thousand dollars, which is slightly

1143
01:15:05,515 --> 01:15:08,515
Speaker 1: more than you need by about thirteen bucks. So here's

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01:15:08,515 --> 01:15:11,315
Speaker 1: what I want. I want you to rename that studio

1145
01:15:11,355 --> 01:15:14,075
Speaker 1: over there where you do most of the music programming from.

1146
01:15:14,235 --> 01:15:17,155
Speaker 1: I need you to rename that after Glenn and I

1147
01:15:17,235 --> 01:15:21,795
Speaker 1: want to party tomorrow with Cake, and I want balloons,

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01:15:22,675 --> 01:15:26,195
Speaker 1: and I want this announcement to run just once. You're

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01:15:26,235 --> 01:15:30,955
Speaker 1: listening to WVBRFM ninety three point five Ithica, New York,

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01:15:31,435 --> 01:15:35,235
Speaker 1: an Olderman broadcasting Empire station. You don't have to run

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01:15:35,235 --> 01:15:40,275
Speaker 1: it once. And they went, what and Phil Shapiro went

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01:15:40,355 --> 01:15:42,995
Speaker 1: white as a sheet. I said, I'm giving you the

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01:15:43,075 --> 01:15:47,155
Speaker 1: money you need. How's that? Can you stay open until

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01:15:47,235 --> 01:15:50,715
Speaker 1: tomorrow without it? Because I have it back in my

1155
01:15:50,875 --> 01:15:53,075
Speaker 1: room and I really don't want to go over there

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01:15:53,115 --> 01:15:57,115
Speaker 1: and come back again today. I'll come back tomorrow. I mean,

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01:15:57,195 --> 01:15:59,635
Speaker 1: I'm not criticizing anybody. None of you are the ones

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01:15:59,635 --> 01:16:03,035
Speaker 1: who are responsible for turning this into a top forty

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01:16:03,115 --> 01:16:06,275
Speaker 1: radio station in nineteen eighty five. That wasn't your fault.

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01:16:06,315 --> 01:16:09,395
Speaker 1: It's nineteen ninety six. Those people are long gone from

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01:16:09,395 --> 01:16:15,435
Speaker 1: this radio station. I said, okay, can you can you

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01:16:15,635 --> 01:16:22,355
Speaker 1: just not shut down my station, Glenn's radio station? Can

1163
01:16:22,395 --> 01:16:27,035
Speaker 1: you just stay on the air and stay in business

1164
01:16:27,115 --> 01:16:29,795
Speaker 1: till tomorrow morning? And Phil Shapiro, who I thought, was

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01:16:29,835 --> 01:16:32,475
Speaker 1: going to faint, and I'm thinking, oh great, now there'll

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01:16:32,515 --> 01:16:37,795
Speaker 1: be two ghosts in this room, Phil, and I think

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01:16:37,835 --> 01:16:39,395
Speaker 1: we can handle it. What do you think? And the

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01:16:39,435 --> 01:16:41,795
Speaker 1: general manager just looked at me, like, oh, thank god,

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01:16:41,835 --> 01:16:44,995
Speaker 1: how did you come here today? I went, I looked

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01:16:45,035 --> 01:16:46,275
Speaker 1: over in the corner of the room and there was

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01:16:46,315 --> 01:16:49,555
Speaker 1: no ghost anymore. And I said, someday I'll explain it

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01:16:49,595 --> 01:16:56,675
Speaker 1: to you. The radio station survived. They managed to keep

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01:16:56,715 --> 01:16:58,235
Speaker 1: it open till the next day, and then we had

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01:16:58,235 --> 01:16:59,915
Speaker 1: a party, and then they put up a plaque that

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01:16:59,995 --> 01:17:02,875
Speaker 1: called at the Glenn Cornelius Memorial Studio. And then they

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01:17:02,875 --> 01:17:05,635
Speaker 1: got into other problems that really were not their fault,

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01:17:05,635 --> 01:17:08,155
Speaker 1: where we had to build them a new studio in

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01:17:08,395 --> 01:17:10,955
Speaker 1: about two thousand and ten or so, and it has

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01:17:11,035 --> 01:17:13,275
Speaker 1: a little bit more money circulating through my life. So

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01:17:13,315 --> 01:17:16,235
Speaker 1: I helped them out there too, and now they operate

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01:17:16,275 --> 01:17:20,395
Speaker 1: from a much nicer multi media facility called the Olderman

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01:17:20,515 --> 01:17:24,875
Speaker 1: Cornelius Studios, which I claim are named after Glenn and

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01:17:24,995 --> 01:17:27,715
Speaker 1: after my father, because my father put in such effort

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01:17:27,795 --> 01:17:29,955
Speaker 1: to getting me into that place in the first time,

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01:17:30,795 --> 01:17:34,675
Speaker 1: and into Cornell in the first place. But obviously it

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01:17:35,075 --> 01:17:38,235
Speaker 1: also the other Olderman in the equation is me, but

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01:17:38,315 --> 01:17:41,915
Speaker 1: it's Olderman Cornelius rather than Cornelius Olderman, because as I

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01:17:41,915 --> 01:17:45,315
Speaker 1: think Glenn would have agreed with me, the damnedest part

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01:17:45,355 --> 01:17:47,235
Speaker 1: of this would have been if somebody someday had thought

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01:17:47,235 --> 01:17:50,355
Speaker 1: there was actually somebody named Cornelius Olderman, so we wouldn't

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01:17:50,355 --> 01:17:53,595
Speaker 1: have that, neither he nor I, And so it is

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01:17:54,075 --> 01:18:01,595
Speaker 1: now today the Olderman Cornelius Studios. But I saw him

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01:18:01,715 --> 01:18:08,235
Speaker 1: laughing his ass off. Something put me in that studio

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01:18:08,275 --> 01:18:10,115
Speaker 1: an hour before they were going to go out of

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01:18:10,115 --> 01:18:13,835
Speaker 1: business after not being there for fifteen years, nor worrying

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01:18:13,875 --> 01:18:16,835
Speaker 1: about their financial status. Something put me in that studio

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01:18:17,195 --> 01:18:19,955
Speaker 1: having to give away fifty thousand dollars for tax purposes

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01:18:21,355 --> 01:18:26,035
Speaker 1: when they needed just slightly less than that. I'm happy

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01:18:26,035 --> 01:18:29,035
Speaker 1: to say that they spent the additional thirteen dollars on

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01:18:29,115 --> 01:18:40,395
Speaker 1: the cake. I saw him, didn't hear them, didn't ask

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01:18:40,515 --> 01:18:51,795
Speaker 1: him questions, didn't say anything. I saw him. And then

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01:18:52,475 --> 01:18:53,995
Speaker 1: the other day I found this cassette.

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01:18:58,675 --> 01:19:01,475
Speaker 4: All right, that's what I like to see. A record

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01:19:01,475 --> 01:19:02,755
Speaker 4: that's hop skipping and jumping.

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01:19:02,795 --> 01:19:04,915
Speaker 3: There, Paull the young dues. Let's listen to this, folks.

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01:19:07,315 --> 01:19:10,675
Speaker 3: You are a wait, that wasn't your cue. Hold it.

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01:19:10,675 --> 01:19:13,835
Speaker 3: We're not quite ready yet. Time out one. Two?

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01:19:13,915 --> 01:19:16,155
Speaker 4: Okay, wait, don't go yet. Well that's three and a

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Speaker 4: half minutes before two o'clock. We're w I at our Binghamton.

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01:19:19,035 --> 01:19:20,795
Speaker 4: My name is Tom Daniels, and we're going off the

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01:19:20,835 --> 01:19:21,715
Speaker 4: air in a very little while.

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01:19:21,755 --> 01:19:22,835
Speaker 3: I'll be back tomorrow.

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01:19:22,555 --> 01:19:25,315
Speaker 4: Morning and maybe at ten o'clock, and I'll be here

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Speaker 4: through four Dandy down Morgan at four o'clock.

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01:19:28,115 --> 01:19:33,715
Speaker 3: And now this message are well.

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01:19:33,755 --> 01:19:36,875
Speaker 4: The world may never recover from this. I certainly won't

1217
01:19:36,915 --> 01:19:40,235
Speaker 4: ever recover from this. But Al Stewart's gonna come and

1218
01:19:40,275 --> 01:19:40,955
Speaker 4: he's gonna sing a.

1219
01:19:40,915 --> 01:19:42,555
Speaker 3: Song, and this is entertaining. It's a nice song to

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01:19:42,555 --> 01:19:43,195
Speaker 3: go to bit too.

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01:19:43,475 --> 01:20:01,035
Speaker 4: It's all about you're the cats mine? Yes, all right,

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01:20:01,115 --> 01:20:07,715
Speaker 4: Hurricane list enough, Hurricane you're not listening. I'm gonna have

1223
01:20:07,755 --> 01:20:10,875
Speaker 4: to take a sisive action here. A hurricane doesn't watch out.

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01:20:16,835 --> 01:20:19,955
Speaker 4: I told you you weren't nice. Well, the views and

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Speaker 4: opinions expressed by this activity do not particularly reflect the

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01:20:22,795 --> 01:20:26,075
Speaker 4: opinions or the views of anyone, most especially Chief or

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01:20:26,155 --> 01:20:28,435
Speaker 4: Peter or Bat or anybody else like that. Thirteen before

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01:20:28,475 --> 01:20:30,675
Speaker 4: one o'clock at WI n R. That was a little

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01:20:30,675 --> 01:20:33,035
Speaker 4: bit of Hurricane Smith. Luckily not a whole lot, though

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01:20:33,075 --> 01:20:33,755
Speaker 4: eagles are here.

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01:20:47,555 --> 01:20:49,395
Speaker 1: I've done all the damage I can do here. Thank

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01:20:49,435 --> 01:20:51,915
Speaker 1: you for listening. Brian Ray and John Phillip Schaneille, the

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01:20:51,955 --> 01:20:55,915
Speaker 1: musical directors have Countdown Range, produced and performed most of

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Speaker 1: our music. Mister Chanelle handled orchestration and keyboards. Mister Ray

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01:20:59,635 --> 01:21:01,515
Speaker 1: was on the guitars, bass and drums, and it was

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Speaker 1: produced by Tko Brothers. Our satirical and pithy musical comments

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01:21:06,275 --> 01:21:12,835
Speaker 1: are by the best baseball stadium organist ever, my accompanyous missist,

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01:21:13,795 --> 01:21:18,115
Speaker 1: Nancy Faust. The sports music is the Ulderman theme from

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01:21:18,275 --> 01:21:21,435
Speaker 1: ESPN two, written by Mitch Warren Davis Curtisy of ESPN Inc.

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Speaker 1: Other music arranged and performed by No Horns allowed. My

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01:21:25,115 --> 01:21:28,035
Speaker 1: announcer today is my friend Tony Kornheiser, and everything else was,

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Speaker 1: as ever, my fault. So that's countdown for today, Day

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Speaker 1: one hundred and nine of America held hostage. Just one

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01:21:36,315 --> 01:21:39,115
Speaker 1: three hundred and fifty four days until the scheduled end

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01:21:39,115 --> 01:21:42,555
Speaker 1: of his lame duck and lame brained term, unless Musk

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01:21:42,635 --> 01:21:46,795
Speaker 1: removes him sooner, or the actuarial tables due, or we do.

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Speaker 1: The next scheduled countdown is Monday. As always, bulletins, as

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Speaker 1: the news warrants, remember, he is, as you listen to this,

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01:21:56,355 --> 01:22:02,355
Speaker 1: laying the groundwork now to not leave office later. Also,

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Speaker 1: I want polling on a presidential recall Von't somebody do

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01:22:05,475 --> 01:22:08,635
Speaker 1: polling on a presidential recall vote? Won't somebody think about

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01:22:08,635 --> 01:22:12,035
Speaker 1: the polling on a presidential recall vote? Until next time?

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Speaker 1: I'm Keith Olberman, good morning, good afternoon, good night, and

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01:22:15,755 --> 01:22:26,155
Speaker 1: good luck. All right, we're gonna try this. The windmills

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01:22:26,675 --> 01:22:50,595
Speaker 1: of Trump's mind take one, like the gas that costs

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Speaker 1: two dollars, like eighty three percent of eggs, never ending

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01:22:55,875 --> 01:23:00,555
Speaker 1: or beginning, like a tariff on your legs, like a

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01:23:00,635 --> 01:23:04,995
Speaker 1: prison on an island that was closed in sixty three,

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01:23:05,915 --> 01:23:10,915
Speaker 1: Like a ninety dollars searcharge on any movie you might see,

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01:23:11,595 --> 01:23:16,195
Speaker 1: like rationing the dolls, so your child only gets three

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01:23:16,955 --> 01:23:22,955
Speaker 1: militarily parading, but it's really just for me, Like the

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01:23:23,115 --> 01:23:28,035
Speaker 1: bullshit that you find in the windmills of Chomp's my

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01:23:33,275 --> 01:23:37,515
Speaker 1: thank you Nancy post? Why does that sound so echoey?

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01:23:37,915 --> 01:23:41,875
Speaker 1: Countdown with Keith Olreman is a production of iHeartRadio. For

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