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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and get started. We're going to be
Speaker 3: covering the fallout from Signal Gate. Ryan and Emily did
Speaker 3: a great job yesterday. They broke down some of the
Speaker 3: new messages. We're going to fully go through all of them,
Speaker 3: what they reveal, what the excuses are, what the administration
Speaker 3: has decided to do. We'll then get to the fallout
Speaker 3: section in terms of the politics, as this continues to
Speaker 3: be actually one of the biggest Trump scandals that has
Speaker 3: yet penetrated. Current data tells us it is the number
Speaker 3: one story currently of the Trump administration that has gone
Speaker 3: viral to everybody, kind of astounding some of the political
Speaker 3: fallout Here in Washington, Tulsea Gabbard and John Ratcliffe in
Speaker 3: front of Congress there getting pressed about it. We're going
Speaker 3: to talk about the Democrats. They were able to flip
Speaker 3: a Trump district in the Pennsylvania Senate seat.
Speaker 1: Super interesting.
Speaker 3: It's the state's obviously, but does give US some indication
Speaker 3: this was what Trump plus fifteen Trump plus sixteen district
Speaker 3: Democrat there was very narrowly able to win. Could be
Speaker 3: a sign of west to come in the midterms. We're
Speaker 3: going to talk about some interesting developments in Gaza. There's
Speaker 3: been some protests on the ground in Gaza. Some people
Speaker 3: are saying it's against Hamas, some against perhaps like the
Speaker 3: Israeli military campaign.
Speaker 1: Ryan's going to break that down for us.
Speaker 3: There have been continuing arrests of some pro Palestinian foreign
Speaker 3: students here in the United States.
Speaker 1: Ryan's going to give us an update on that.
Speaker 3: And then finally Ryan and I will update NPR and PBS.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the defund campaign currently happening
Speaker 3: in Congress and some hilarious footage just no matter what
Speaker 3: side you fall on, that is coming out of Congress.
Speaker 3: But with that, let's go ahead and get to the
Speaker 3: signal texts, shall we. So, after the Trump administration spent
Speaker 3: better part of a day saying there was no classified
Speaker 3: information there at all. Nothing, don't worry about it. Everything
Speaker 3: was totally above board. Jeffrey Goldberg over the Atlantic against
Speaker 3: his better nature, Ryan, because he was trying to protect
Speaker 3: all of us from all this classified information.
Speaker 1: He just said, you know, it's screw it.
Speaker 3: I'm going to release all of them. And you know what,
Speaker 3: he should have done that from the very beginning. But okay,
Speaker 3: here we are, and now we can all see it
Speaker 3: for ourselves, and judge, that's called journalism, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Isn't it? So okay, let's go ahead and put them
Speaker 1: all up there on the screen. Let's start with the
Speaker 1: first one.
Speaker 3: Now, what do you notice in that very first text message, Ryan,
Speaker 3: what's the very first.
Speaker 5: Thing that it's Mr Added.
Speaker 1: Michael Waltz added to you to the group.
Speaker 5: There you go.
Speaker 3: The second thing is what disappearing message time set to
Speaker 3: one week? Okay, my message group with my buddies, it's
Speaker 3: got a one day disappearing time, right, So.
Speaker 1: Why is it set to one week? That's crazy?
Speaker 3: You know, why do they have a better you know, like,
Speaker 3: why do we have better op sec quote unquote than this?
Speaker 1: It's totally ridiculous.
Speaker 3: Now let's continue, shall we We cut out and we're
Speaker 3: only including here some of the new text messages for
Speaker 3: people to see. But what's fascinating to me is the
Speaker 3: internal debate here. Joe Kent, some of you guys might
Speaker 3: know Joe Kent. He was ran for Congress twice in
Speaker 3: the state of Washington. Very very realist guy, and here
Speaker 3: he is as one of Tulsey Gabbard's deputies, actually arguing
Speaker 3: in the chat saying, there's nothing time sensitive that is
Speaker 3: driving this timeline for the strike against the Hoothi's. We
Speaker 3: will have the exact same options in a month.
Speaker 1: Quote.
Speaker 3: The Israelis will likely take strikes and therefore ask us
Speaker 3: for more support to replenish whatever they use against the
Speaker 3: hoo thies. But that's a minor factor. I will send
Speaker 3: you the unclassed data on pulled on shipping. He's talking
Speaker 3: there specifically about the amount of shipping there. John Ratcliffe,
Speaker 3: the CIA director, says, we are mobilizing assets to support now,
Speaker 3: but at delay would not negatively impact us. An additional
Speaker 3: time would be used to identify better starting points for
Speaker 3: coverage on hoo They leadership.
Speaker 4: So, by the way, can we boll has on this
Speaker 4: real quickly because there are a group of people in
Speaker 4: this country who still care about the constitution and the
Speaker 4: war powers, uh huh, and have insisted that this was
Speaker 4: an illegal strike and that you need congressional authorization for it.
Speaker 4: This proves that it was the case, because the only
Speaker 4: way you can get around Congress is if you say
Speaker 4: this was an emergency. That's right, because obviously commander in
Speaker 4: chief in an emergency situation doesn't have to let American
Speaker 4: service members die just because of paperwork. They are admitting
Speaker 4: in writing that there is no rush. They're literally saying,
Speaker 4: no rush. We can do this later, if you can
Speaker 4: do it later. Therefore, constitutionally speaking, you're required to get
Speaker 4: congressional authorism.
Speaker 3: Unless it's the two thousand and one Authorization of Military Force,
Speaker 3: which I.
Speaker 4: Don't even think they yeah, because that's against al KaiA
Speaker 4: and the Huthi's fight out kaya Ya.
Speaker 1: But Ryan, they've been updating that there for a long time, right,
Speaker 1: and it never mattered to its point the constitution.
Speaker 5: As we will talk about later in this show.
Speaker 1: Who even cares about that anymore?
Speaker 3: But let's continue here with the text messages, shall we,
Speaker 3: because this again, we're revealing here a lot both about
Speaker 3: how this entire thing was not only not time sensitive,
Speaker 3: it didn't work because it didn't actually accomplish its goal
Speaker 3: of stopping this. I also think just had to put
Speaker 3: this in here about mister Waltz Mike Waltz here. You
Speaker 3: could see him here arguing with jd Vance, who is saying, hey,
Speaker 3: why are we doing this only three percent? He's like, well,
Speaker 3: actually the trade figures we are fifteen percent of global
Speaker 3: and thirty percent of container. It's difficult to break that
Speaker 3: down to the US specific because of the container going
Speaker 3: through the Red Sea or not, whether we pull the
Speaker 3: plug or not. Today, European navies do not have the
Speaker 3: capabilities to defend the types of sophisticated anti ship cruise
Speaker 3: missiles and drones.
Speaker 1: The Hoothies are now using. Let's pause on that, shall we.
Speaker 3: So these European nations, let's say Germany, the UK, France,
Speaker 3: we're talking about, you know what, three of the top
Speaker 3: G seven economies in the world. Actually all of them
Speaker 3: have much more powerful navies than almost any other country
Speaker 3: in the world except for like the US in China.
Speaker 3: And so if our national security advisor is saying they don't.
Speaker 1: Even have the capability to deal with.
Speaker 3: A group that has been bombed into smithereens for the
Speaker 3: last ten years and is using like secondhand Iranian missiles
Speaker 3: that they've gotten, you know, by a transfer, that's a
Speaker 3: bit of a problem. Shall we can we all just
Speaker 3: sit there and ruminate on that a little bit?
Speaker 4: Lucky luckily for Europe, right, and lucky the UK and
Speaker 4: France and the rest of them. Waltz is either a
Speaker 4: liar or a moron. Everything you read there is a lie. Yes,
Speaker 4: like they do have the capacity to shoot missiles.
Speaker 3: Or it's like or Mike Waltz is saying that we
Speaker 3: need to do it now.
Speaker 1: The only reason that.
Speaker 5: We lying so that we can be the one that's right.
Speaker 3: And why would we be the ones to do it
Speaker 3: Either a to feel big and tough and to stick
Speaker 3: it to Iran because that definitely worked under Biden, or
Speaker 3: it's to defend Israel. And as they admit also in
Speaker 3: the chat, the fall apart of the ceasefire has direct.
Speaker 1: Impacts here, as Joe kentims Health admitted.
Speaker 3: Now, let's continue here with the text messages and let's
Speaker 3: see what else that we can, shall we. So this
Speaker 3: is the actual update from Pete Heggsath and I would say,
Speaker 3: this is the one where you basically got them dead
Speaker 3: to rights, and let's keep this up here because this,
Speaker 3: by the way, America, this is what your government is
Speaker 3: telling you is not classified. This is before the Strike
Speaker 3: Team update time now eleven forty four Eastern stand time.
Speaker 1: Weather's favorable. Just confirmed, We are a go.
Speaker 3: Twelve fifteen F eighteen's launch thirteen forty five trigger BASEDFF
Speaker 3: eighteen strike window starts. Target terrorists is at his known location,
Speaker 3: so should be on time. Also, strike drones launch MQ
Speaker 3: nine's fourteen ten more F eighteen's launch second strike package
Speaker 3: fourteen fifteen strike drones on target. This is when the
Speaker 3: first bombs will definitely drop, pending earlier trigger based targets
Speaker 3: fifteen thirty six F eighteen second strike targets. Also first
Speaker 3: C base Tomahawks launch. So the Trump administration's argument is
Speaker 3: that because he said that the target terrorist is at
Speaker 3: its location, that there was no classified information that was
Speaker 3: included there.
Speaker 1: Can we all just.
Speaker 3: Stop, you know, for a second, Like this level of
Speaker 3: retardation is honestly just too much for me. Like you're
Speaker 3: really going to argue that the known like use of
Speaker 3: the munitions and the exact time of an attack was
Speaker 3: not classified at the time that you send it, Fine, then.
Speaker 1: Tweet it out if you believe that.
Speaker 3: If you believe that, then allow any American service member
Speaker 3: privy to that information to post it ahead of the attack.
Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead. Now, as you and I know, Ryan, the.
Speaker 3: Stupidest shit in the world is classified by the United
Speaker 3: States covery. We have a massive over classification problem, as
Speaker 3: you all saw with the JFK file. So there is
Speaker 3: genuinely no universe on planet Earth where this was not
Speaker 3: classified at the There was no like not classified at
Speaker 3: the time that they sent it. And then second, what
Speaker 3: you also can just see here in the sheer stupidity
Speaker 3: of the way that they are acting. I know I'm
Speaker 3: calling for this early put a two up there on
Speaker 3: the screen because this was the you know, quote unquote
Speaker 3: the smoking gun as to whether it was classified. Look
Speaker 3: here at what our idiot national security advisors justification is.
Speaker 3: No locations, no sources and methods, no war plans. Foreign
Speaker 3: partners have already been notified. Bottom line, President Trump is
Speaker 3: protecting America and our interests. So their response is that actually,
Speaker 3: Pete Heggsath shared attack plans and not war plans, Thus
Speaker 3: there was no classified information here whatsoever. It is an
Speaker 3: insult to all good people's intelligence to argue this.
Speaker 1: It's it's just preposterous.
Speaker 4: We never got a congressional authorization for war. Therefore, it's
Speaker 4: not a war, war plans.
Speaker 1: What are we doing here?
Speaker 3: I just I really cannot stomach this level of stupidity.
Speaker 1: I cannot.
Speaker 3: Now, let's continue with the text messages and let's go,
Speaker 3: because there's also more that we reveal here also in
Speaker 3: terms of the way that we conduct war and what
Speaker 3: exactly is a good a good plan to go. Yeah,
Speaker 3: here's my current my favorite from Pete x Seth.
Speaker 1: More to follow. We are currently clean on opsteck, meaning
Speaker 1: that there have been no leaks. WHI to our warriors.
Speaker 1: We are clean, clean as a whistle.
Speaker 3: All right, let's continue, and this also shows us, you know, again,
Speaker 3: how dumb a lot of the people who are in
Speaker 3: power actually are, namely mister Waltz who added Jeffrey Goldberg
Speaker 3: VP building collapse had multiple positive ID. He was JD
Speaker 3: goes what he goes, typing too fast, the first target,
Speaker 3: their top missile guy. We had positive ID of him
Speaker 3: walking into his girlfriend's building and now it's collapse. Excellent
Speaker 3: and a good start there from John Radcliffe. So presumptive there,
Speaker 3: it's like, oh, so did we kill the girlfriend?
Speaker 1: Right, so what's up?
Speaker 5: And everyone else in the freaking apartment building?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 5: And yeah, right, what is Jady Vance, by the way.
Speaker 4: Doing drop an excellent on a war crime here? And
Speaker 4: who's the thumbs up on the war crime? Like that's
Speaker 4: a war crunt.
Speaker 3: It's just one of those where, you know, you rarely
Speaker 3: get to see the internal you know, way that we
Speaker 3: even acknowledged this type of stuff. You're never supposed to
Speaker 3: put this in writing, right, whenever you just kill, you
Speaker 3: know it was innocent, standby or whatever. And it also,
Speaker 3: I can't tell you guys how many times I've been
Speaker 3: in the Pentagon briefing room and we would ask things
Speaker 3: like so, what steps did you take to me? They're like,
Speaker 3: we take every possible step to minimize civilian casualties. We
Speaker 3: did this and this and this and this and this
Speaker 3: and here you have the national security rebel. Yeah, you
Speaker 3: walking to his girlfriend's building and we just claps it.
Speaker 3: We're like, uh, what what hold on?
Speaker 4: So the guy, the guy, the guy they're saying they killed,
Speaker 4: was a senior official who works in the missile department, right,
Speaker 4: they have other engineers, yes, Like okay, like.
Speaker 5: This is not osam bin Laden.
Speaker 4: This is a guy who is is like somebody's boss
Speaker 4: in a missile program. It's when they kill him and
Speaker 4: his girlfriend and everyone else in the apartment, they will hire,
Speaker 4: they'll put out a little wreck. Hey, we got a
Speaker 4: job opening now for a guy who can run a
Speaker 4: missile program.
Speaker 3: And Ryan, you covered drone strikes for years, so can
Speaker 3: you just tell us, like, not only the pattern that
Speaker 3: this strikes with the war machine going all the way
Speaker 3: back to the Obama administration, but just for you to
Speaker 3: be able to nakedly see this, I.
Speaker 1: Mean, what is it?
Speaker 3: Because as you and I have done, we have heard
Speaker 3: these claims from the CIA and from the war the
Speaker 3: Pentagon for almost more than a decade. Now they're like, listen,
Speaker 3: you have no idea the amount of steps you know
Speaker 3: that we take. And here's not even a pretense of
Speaker 3: rules of engagement or any of that.
Speaker 1: They're like, yeah, we just killed.
Speaker 4: Them, all right, because I got it right, because they
Speaker 4: think nobody's watching they it's been It shows how normalized
Speaker 4: it is to not care about civilian casualties. Like nobody
Speaker 4: on that thread knows anything about the number of civilians
Speaker 4: in that apartment building. Nobody said, wait a minute, are
Speaker 4: we sure that this apartment building in the middle of
Speaker 4: the night was not filled with sleeping people? Had nothing
Speaker 4: to do with this. I'm assuming you check. You guys
Speaker 4: checked this right just and also all the references to
Speaker 4: God and praying while you're actively killing innocent people.
Speaker 1: Well they're saying, oh God, bless our troops and all that.
Speaker 1: Maybe one thing, if.
Speaker 5: I pray for victory, what do you would pray for victory? Victory?
Speaker 1: And what this is not a this is not at
Speaker 1: that's the problem.
Speaker 3: You're striking off of a ship, right, We're invert like
Speaker 3: using bombs, dropping them from very sophisticated airplanes and from
Speaker 3: guided missile destroyers and acting like we're invading Normandy on
Speaker 3: D Day.
Speaker 5: And it's also victory. Guess what the red sea blockade
Speaker 5: is still going sea blockade?
Speaker 1: What was going on there?
Speaker 3: Actually was just strikes again yesterday, not that anybody's noticing
Speaker 3: and or doing anything in terms of the effect. Biden
Speaker 3: bombed Yemen for over a year. As you said, he
Speaker 3: even admitted, yes we have the strikes, will continue.
Speaker 1: Will it work?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 1: Okay? But what are we doing here again?
Speaker 3: And you know, there's so much to say here, both
Speaker 3: about the stupidity of just feel good operations like this
Speaker 3: which do nothing. You know, killed killed some hooty guy
Speaker 3: great strikes are maybe doing Yeah, maybe maybe not the
Speaker 3: thing here's some classified information. By the way, we have
Speaker 3: positive ID that he's in the apartment building, right, Okay,
Speaker 3: there's a chance that there's some drone that has some.
Speaker 1: MQ nine Reaper drone.
Speaker 5: There were m nine Reaper drones.
Speaker 4: It's not obvious though that the MQ nine Reaper drone
Speaker 4: was the source of the positive ID that he's in
Speaker 4: the apartment. Did they have human intel, a human intel
Speaker 4: on the block that that said, hey, he's in there.
Speaker 4: Does that mean they have a mole like or is
Speaker 4: it a civilian who's on the block who they're working with.
Speaker 4: Now Iran is going to sweep up all the the
Speaker 4: comms from that block and try to snuff out who
Speaker 4: if there was a.
Speaker 5: Mole a human source.
Speaker 4: So did Hagseth give up a human source or Waltz
Speaker 4: give up a source like?
Speaker 5: And maybe it was a drone. I don't know.
Speaker 4: But that's why to say that this stuff is unclassified
Speaker 4: and you can just post it on Twitter it is absurd.
Speaker 3: Let's call her bluff. Fine, do it before every attack
Speaker 3: post it. Fine, I'm fine with that. Actually be useful
Speaker 3: because We're like, Okay, here's here's where we use. Here's
Speaker 3: exactly where we use. Here are the targets, and then
Speaker 3: you and I can say, so, did it work right?
Speaker 3: Did it hit the I would actually like to know
Speaker 3: that right. It would be nice, wouldn't it? All Right,
Speaker 3: let's try that. So I already showed you, guys, Mike
Speaker 3: Waltz's dumb justification. But oh man, the White House line
Speaker 3: on this, I just again it is it insults the
Speaker 3: intelligence of the viewer and of the entire country.
Speaker 1: Let's take a lesson.
Speaker 7: What is it about what Pete Hegseth wrote that makes
Speaker 7: you say this is not classified?
Speaker 8: Well, it's not just me saying that, Peter, it's the
Speaker 8: Secretary of Defense himself who is saying this as well.
Speaker 8: And he put out a very strong statement earlier today
Speaker 8: listing all of the things that were not included in
Speaker 8: that message that he sent to the group. And again
Speaker 8: this message, there was no classified information transmitted, there were
Speaker 8: no war plans discussed. Why did the Atlantic downgrade their
Speaker 8: allegation about war plans to attack plans? They're now playing
Speaker 8: word games because they know this was sensationless spin from
Speaker 8: a reporter who is well known for doing this. We
Speaker 8: have said all along, no war plans were discussed, no
Speaker 8: classified material was sent. You have the Secretary of Defense
Speaker 8: saying that, you have the director of the CIA, the
Speaker 8: Director of National Intelligence, the FBI director, all testifying to
Speaker 8: that under oath, and they should be trusted with that.
Speaker 1: Nobody's texting war plans.
Speaker 9: Well, I noticed this morning, how came something that doesn't
Speaker 9: look like war plans? And as a matter of fact,
Speaker 9: they even changed the title to attack plans because they
Speaker 9: know it's not war plans.
Speaker 1: Attack plans not war plans.
Speaker 3: They're insulting all of our intelligence as if this is
Speaker 3: an excuse. You know what a better excuse would be
Speaker 3: or a better response. Yeah, our national security advisor, he's
Speaker 3: an idiot, and he added this person and we're never
Speaker 3: supposed to be there, and he's being fired yesterday.
Speaker 1: So we've dealt with the problem. We're moving on.
Speaker 3: They instead, they're attacking Jeffrey Goldberg and the Atlantic as
Speaker 3: if it's his fault that he what did Wall say
Speaker 3: that his sucked sucked in. As much as I despise
Speaker 3: drug dealers, I ask you all the next time, do
Speaker 3: you drug dealers out there get caught to tell the police,
Speaker 3: Oh they got sucked in.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't. I don't know.
Speaker 3: You ever been in a situation where you have a
Speaker 3: contact and somebody else's number, Try telling that to put
Speaker 3: the police use that as a defense in a court
Speaker 3: of life. A lot I get. I asked you to
Speaker 3: do that for my own edification and amusement, to see
Speaker 3: how it will work out.
Speaker 4: Every every guy in the country who's been caught teating his.
Speaker 1: Foot or her number got sucked in.
Speaker 5: No guy would even like.
Speaker 3: Nobody, No one is even dumb enough to try that.
Speaker 3: You got to have some other like, oh, my friend
Speaker 3: sent it to me or whatever. You know, it's different initials.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what it was.
Speaker 1: Fellas.
Speaker 5: I want to text Jeffrey Goldberg.
Speaker 1: Fellas, try that one next time. It's just too much.
Speaker 3: The best what we've seen yet, the best actual response
Speaker 3: here has been from secon Terry Rubio. He's like, look,
Speaker 3: so I made a big mistake. Yeah, yeah, He's like,
Speaker 3: that's it. That's all we can say. Let's take a
Speaker 3: lesson a four first.
Speaker 10: Question, let me just say on the signal thing, this
Speaker 10: thing was set up for purposes of coordinating how everyone
Speaker 10: was going to call you know when these things happened.
Speaker 10: I need to call foreign ministers, especially of our close allies.
Speaker 6: We need to notify members of Congress.
Speaker 10: Other members of the team have different people they need
Speaker 10: to notify as well.
Speaker 6: And that was the purpose of why it was set up.
Speaker 10: Obviously, someone made a mistake, someone made a big.
Speaker 6: Mistake and added a journalist.
Speaker 10: Nothing against journalists, but you ain't supposed to be on
Speaker 10: that thing, so.
Speaker 6: They got on there and this happened.
Speaker 10: I've been you know, so I can speak to.
Speaker 6: Myself for my presence on it.
Speaker 10: I think my role I on it was just speaking
Speaker 10: for my role.
Speaker 6: I contributed to it twice.
Speaker 10: I identified my point of contact, which is my chief
Speaker 10: of staff.
Speaker 6: And then later on I think three.
Speaker 10: Hours after the White House's official announcements had been made,
Speaker 10: I congratulated the members of the team. I've been assured
Speaker 10: by the Pentagon and every everyone involved that none of
Speaker 10: the information that was on there, though not intended to
Speaker 10: be bevulged.
Speaker 6: Obviously that was a mistake and that shouldn't have happened.
Speaker 10: In the White House is looking at it, but that
Speaker 10: none of the information on there at any point threatened
Speaker 10: the operation of the lives of our servicemen.
Speaker 1: Somebody made a mistake, just say it.
Speaker 3: But you know why you can't say it because then
Speaker 3: you have to fire the idiot who made a mistake.
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, you know, watching heg Seth have
Speaker 3: to contort himself into a knot this is It's not
Speaker 3: even his fault.
Speaker 1: This is Trump.
Speaker 3: Trump is standing by and just allowing this idiot to
Speaker 3: stay in his job. I also want to say this,
Speaker 3: I think Trump is losing his edge in the old days.
Speaker 3: Anyone who have flailed like that on television.
Speaker 4: You're right, first term, that's the crime, right, Yeah, well admitted.
Speaker 1: Did you not see that TV interview? It was humiliating.
Speaker 3: You know, anybody, you don't even need like a sixty
Speaker 3: IQ to watch that and be like, yeah, this.
Speaker 1: Guy is this is this is obviously lying.
Speaker 3: And Trump is not only allowing this, He's been clowning
Speaker 3: himself by allowing this to keep working for him. Who's like, oh,
Speaker 3: it got sucked into my phone? And now the White
Speaker 3: House said yesterday that Elon Musk's technical experts are what.
Speaker 1: Technical expertsy do you get on the case.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a forensic chain to look at how
Speaker 3: this happened. The guy had the phone number in his
Speaker 3: phone and then they added the wrong number.
Speaker 1: It's not hard done, it is done. Yeah, he's closed.
Speaker 4: We need an efficient review of this, not big Balls
Speaker 4: spending weeks with a committee.
Speaker 3: I just can't get you know, for me, Ryn, you know,
Speaker 3: I'm watching these National Park rangers get fired, and you know,
Speaker 3: all these other folks get fired. Maybe some need to go,
Speaker 3: maybe some don't, whatever, But this guy gets the second
Speaker 3: chance forgiveness.
Speaker 4: We know, fourteen years of impeccable performance reviews, right, and
Speaker 4: you're fired, Yes, because big Balls didn't understand what your
Speaker 4: job was and it and it's and it's had something
Speaker 4: in the word diversity, Yeah, was in it. And so
Speaker 4: but Michael, this guts to keep his job.
Speaker 5: This guy is fine.
Speaker 3: It's again it insults the intelligence of all good people.
Speaker 3: Next part, let's let's go to this one because this
Speaker 3: is great. So as you'll all recall, Mike Waltz said
Speaker 3: I have never met and never communicated.
Speaker 1: With Jeffrey Goldberg before. Here's a photo of him and
Speaker 1: Jeffy Goldberg all right, standing right next to you.
Speaker 5: Tell the world where they are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's.
Speaker 3: Actually even better at the French embassy where there are attendant.
Speaker 3: What was some French with a French filmmaker. Yeah, that's right,
Speaker 3: some Q and A for a French filmmaker. I'll tell
Speaker 3: you it is a nice embassy for all being, it's
Speaker 3: a beautif.
Speaker 5: It's a bit incredible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that is the heart of Swamp Washington.
Speaker 1: It's just it's too much.
Speaker 3: Again where the guy says I've never met and never communicated,
Speaker 3: and then except the French embassy and here's a photo
Speaker 3: of me standing right next to him. What you think
Speaker 3: they didn't have a little conversation right before that. Maybe
Speaker 3: that's when his number got sucked into his phone. Right, Yes,
Speaker 3: it's just again, you know, I can say it over
Speaker 3: and over and then finally a six let's put it
Speaker 3: up here. Mike Wallace Apparently for some reason, his Venmo
Speaker 3: list is public.
Speaker 1: I was talking to the team this morning.
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, am I the only guys that
Speaker 3: is private venmoll list, And so I was like, twenty
Speaker 3: years old.
Speaker 1: Is what are we doing here?
Speaker 4: Is Michael Waltz still walking around with this phone that
Speaker 4: is known to just suck up random not.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, this is a de Would you want
Speaker 1: to get rid of this? Phone.
Speaker 5: This is very Yeah, this is bad.
Speaker 3: So let's presume here that the CNN journalist and the
Speaker 3: MSNBC producer and all these other journalists which were publicly
Speaker 3: available at Mike Waltz's venmo also got sucked into his phone.
Speaker 3: In terms of how this all happened, like goat shakes out.
Speaker 3: At this point, Trump is now allowed the humiliation of
Speaker 3: this new cycle to continue. He has given Congressional Democrats
Speaker 3: the greatest blessing to drag out some dumb you know,
Speaker 3: you know, a long hearing process because now if they
Speaker 3: don't fire Waltz, so they can try and compel them
Speaker 3: to Of course, this is not going to happen.
Speaker 1: He refused executive privilege.
Speaker 3: The Secretary of Defense has to testify legally before Congress.
Speaker 3: I think, what is it four or five times a
Speaker 3: year or something like that, and so they're obviously going
Speaker 3: to press him if the Democrats do take the midterms.
Speaker 3: What's the easiest, you know, Lewinsky style hearing type of
Speaker 3: thing to initiate classified hearings referring things to the you
Speaker 3: just bought yourself two years of scandal for no reason.
Speaker 3: And you know, people might think this is dumb, but
Speaker 3: I mentioned this in the intro. Axios did some data analysis.
Speaker 3: This is the most viral story of the Trump administration.
Speaker 1: This is everywhere.
Speaker 4: Andy Cohen joked about it on Watch What Happens Live
Speaker 4: last night.
Speaker 1: There you go, So.
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. But okay, even take that out
Speaker 3: of it. Go on TikTok or Instagram or any of these.
Speaker 3: Everyone is making jokes about the group chat like it
Speaker 3: entered the zeitgeist.
Speaker 4: Andy Cohen joked about it just talking about signals, as in,
Speaker 4: everyone understands this, like didn't need any context.
Speaker 1: They go, it's just everyone understands the whole country.
Speaker 3: If you're even like tangentially, you know, experiencing pop culture
Speaker 3: or the news or TV, this show, YouTube, whatever, you've
Speaker 3: heard about this, because.
Speaker 1: This is a real thing.
Speaker 4: Everyone's made that mistake, they have, but nobody has defended it.
Speaker 3: And nobody has defended it as stupidly as Mike Walls.
Speaker 3: And so you know, I just keep coming back to this.
Speaker 3: You have a guy who literally committed the greatest Washington
Speaker 3: sin that you can make. Number one is jeopardized classified information.
Speaker 3: Then the second greatest Washington staffer sin is you become
Speaker 3: the story. You embarrass your boss, and now his boss
Speaker 3: who is firing tens of thousands of people based on
Speaker 3: efficiency claims and others and excellence in government, and we're
Speaker 3: getting rid of DEI is keeping this idiot around.
Speaker 1: It's just shocking.
Speaker 4: And yeah, the problem that Democrats seem to have here
Speaker 4: is that they seem hell bent on trying to use
Speaker 4: this to get rid of Pete heggsay.
Speaker 1: I noticed that.
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that, because I
Speaker 3: don't get it. They got him dead to rights. He's
Speaker 3: an idiot. It's done close case.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the guy was sharing is a pro
Speaker 4: war like Washington creature.
Speaker 1: I was going to say, And I think that makes him.
Speaker 4: More Democrats are more comfortable with pro war Washington creatures
Speaker 4: who have the support of APAC right and the pro
Speaker 4: Ukraine war types like That's Democrats are just more comfortable
Speaker 4: with that kind of guy than with Hegxeth, who is
Speaker 4: more skeptical of I mean this his signal chats, notwithstanding
Speaker 4: like he's not exactly a dove.
Speaker 1: He's not a dove.
Speaker 3: He's not he's got a bad Neocon pass, but he's
Speaker 3: more maga let's put it that. Yeah, Whereas Walts, like
Speaker 3: you said, I mean this guy was arguing for war
Speaker 3: with Russia, like yesterday, yeah, forty work for.
Speaker 5: He's like actively kind of undermined.
Speaker 3: Right, He's like you can see it in the group chat.
Speaker 3: This guy's like, no, actually beat the bomb yeh. And
Speaker 3: here's why, because there's some chat g there's analysis thirty.
Speaker 4: Of the containers or who knows where those goods are going?
Speaker 4: And the European you know, they may manufacture something it
Speaker 4: and then other.
Speaker 5: Other component parts wind up, can hear? So really we
Speaker 5: should go to war with the entire world.
Speaker 1: That's right.
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, got it again. It's just the stupidest
Speaker 3: possible move. And watching the White House and even JD
Speaker 3: he was attacking Goldberg.
Speaker 5: Democrats, Just go are we doing Democrats?
Speaker 3: We're attacking Jeffrey Goldberg. I just readed something to that ran.
Speaker 4: You know what making us defend Jeffrey Goldberg?
Speaker 1: Goldberg?
Speaker 3: I hate the man so much, And I said this,
Speaker 3: I go a journal exaggerating his headline. Now a bigger
Speaker 3: problem than being the National Security Advisor of the USA
Speaker 3: actually adding said journal to the chat and lying about it.
Speaker 3: As I said, you need a sub sixty IQ to
Speaker 3: go along with it.
Speaker 4: And the better headline was, you know, war planners exposed
Speaker 4: war crime in real time. Here you go, that's a
Speaker 4: good headline. You know what else is he kept that
Speaker 4: out right that they knocked out apart.
Speaker 3: The other thing I can't really understand here about Goldberg
Speaker 3: is he's clearly protecting Waltz to some degree because because
Speaker 3: they are obviously. But at the same time, if someone
Speaker 3: was like, if I lead something, let's say, and someone
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I've never met soccer before, I'm like, okay, oh,
Speaker 3: here's a photo of the two of us together, and
Speaker 3: actually here's whenever you added me, and right, here's all
Speaker 3: of our past communications, just so you all know, in terms.
Speaker 4: Of my original tip, that they are in contact and
Speaker 4: that they had been contact previously. But he burned him
Speaker 4: because he kind of had to, because at this point,
Speaker 4: you've added it's a huge store. You have to you
Speaker 4: have to burn the guy. Every exactly everything Goldberg has
Speaker 4: done since then affirms that original tip and that original idea,
Speaker 4: because he has done everything acount Yes, he burned Waltz,
Speaker 4: but he's done everything he can to kind of divert
Speaker 4: attention to Hegsath and and to not burn Waltz, right, Yeah,
Speaker 4: shows he feels guilty.
Speaker 3: Lost Internet salutes to go and find a photo of Goldberg.
Speaker 3: And if the guy says I've never met you before,
Speaker 3: like that's just literally not true.
Speaker 1: I met you this time.
Speaker 6: I met him. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he even said I met him before in the article.
Speaker 4: And so for Walts to come out to say he didn't,
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, just aggressively stupid, a liar.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like the public record.
Speaker 3: And really, what they are betting on, and this might
Speaker 3: be a good bed, is that Maga and Trump are
Speaker 3: so stupid that they will allow their intelligence to be
Speaker 3: insulted to own the Libs and the Atlantic.
Speaker 1: The only people you're owning are yourselves.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Dave Portnoy over at barstool News or what no, barsool Sports,
Speaker 3: not barstool News.
Speaker 1: I guess it could Barstool Sports.
Speaker 3: Dave Portinoy put out a video and he was like,
Speaker 3: you know, guys, Mike Wallas gotta go.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 11: I've seen a lot of people be like, oh, you're
Speaker 11: mad about this, but we had a president like Biden
Speaker 11: with dementia, with the nuclear codes. Yeah, that's exactly it.
Speaker 6: That's exactly it.
Speaker 11: That wasn't right then and this isn't right now in
Speaker 11: this new administration.
Speaker 5: You want to take accountability.
Speaker 11: Trump. You may love Michael Waltz, you love Pete Heskiff,
Speaker 11: you may.
Speaker 6: Love these guys.
Speaker 5: Somebody has to go down to me. Is Michael Waltz.
Speaker 11: He's the one who added him to this conversation. But
Speaker 11: you can't have the top of the top security people
Speaker 11: in the United States with the most sensitive information in
Speaker 11: the world, adding random editors of a magazine that hates
Speaker 11: Trump's guts to a group chat talking about an attack
Speaker 11: before it happens on a terrorist group.
Speaker 5: You can't pooh poo it.
Speaker 11: You can't downplay it. You have to sit up there
Speaker 11: and be like, holy shit, this is a fuck up
Speaker 11: of epic proportions.
Speaker 5: There will be accountability.
Speaker 11: I will get to the bottom of this, And frankly,
Speaker 11: I think I don't like calling for people's heads.
Speaker 5: Michael Waltz.
Speaker 11: It seems like you're the guy who added him to
Speaker 11: the group chat. You have to lose your job.
Speaker 1: Yeah, basic, basic stuff.
Speaker 3: Yes, it literally says Michael Wallace added you to the
Speaker 3: group chat.
Speaker 1: There's no sucking in. It's over.
Speaker 3: There was even there Now the current spin from MAGA
Speaker 3: is him his deputies added him.
Speaker 1: Guess what they literally said, No, the deputy didn't add him.
Speaker 6: I added him.
Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean the only way maybe that you
Speaker 3: could get around it is my deputy sent me the
Speaker 3: guy's contact and that's how the number got sucked into.
Speaker 5: MICD, not even trying.
Speaker 3: But even if you did that, then fire the deputy.
Speaker 3: Why are we standing by this? Do you do you
Speaker 3: know who his deputy is?
Speaker 1: Because I do.
Speaker 3: Alex Wang, Alex Wang been around this town for a
Speaker 3: long time, all right, Alex.
Speaker 4: Wang, Lords Cotton, Lord lewis coming after Alex as you should.
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, Thank you Laura for your service.
Speaker 3: Alex Wang were for Tom Cotton, unreconstructed Neocon one hundred percent,
Speaker 3: probably been leaking to Jeffrey goldbersus he came to Washington.
Speaker 3: This guy is a complete like just blob individual. You know,
Speaker 3: not a surprise that Michael Wallace hired him. Those of
Speaker 3: us who track insider personnel been tracking this guy for
Speaker 3: a long time. But that's another thing, you know, for Wallace,
Speaker 3: why are you protecting this guy?
Speaker 11: Then?
Speaker 3: If it's not his fault, my only then I can
Speaker 3: only surmise it's not his fault, it's your fault. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's like there's the only ray that this all went down.
Speaker 3: And yeah, Trump, for some reason again wants this to
Speaker 3: be the number one story that is surrounding him. I mean,
Speaker 3: I thought he was on better ground. Let's just look again.
Speaker 3: We could debate merits and all that stuff all day long,
Speaker 3: even if you disagree on the deportations thing, and Glenden
Speaker 3: mostly convinced me that there were serious screw ups there.
Speaker 3: That's a better That is a much better news cycle
Speaker 3: for Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: Immigration is his number one issue right now, number one.
Speaker 3: Every single other issue is mostly underwater according to a
Speaker 3: lot of these tracking polls on issues.
Speaker 6: Now.
Speaker 3: Sure caveats and all that stuff, etc. But that's where
Speaker 3: I want to be fighting my incompetence on a group
Speaker 3: chat joke.
Speaker 1: That's not where we want to be.
Speaker 4: Underneath that is you're bombing Yemen because you failed to
Speaker 4: end the Bengal War Israel, which has the White House
Speaker 4: having to respond to Portnoy.
Speaker 5: That's whatever. Whenever Portnoy is.
Speaker 4: Being used against Caroline Levitt in the press room, you're losing.
Speaker 4: So let's roll that real a clip because it was
Speaker 4: just kind of funny.
Speaker 3: That's right, he just cleared by who's investigating, who's leading that?
Speaker 4: And also Dave Portnoy, who endorsed President Trump, said today
Speaker 4: that he thinks that Mike Waltz should leave.
Speaker 5: Could you response to that?
Speaker 6: Sure?
Speaker 8: Great respect for Dave Portnoy, but I just answered that
Speaker 8: previous question from Jennifer. As for your original question about
Speaker 8: who's leading looking into the messaging thread, the National Security Council,
Speaker 8: the White House Counsel's Office, and also yes, Elon Musk's team.
Speaker 8: Elon Musk has offered to put his technical experts on
Speaker 8: this to figure out how this number was inadvertently added
Speaker 8: to the chat again, to take responsibility and ensure this
Speaker 8: can never happen again.
Speaker 4: Got all the greatest minds, Got all the greatest minds
Speaker 4: trying to figure this out.
Speaker 5: Don't worry Portant.
Speaker 1: Technical expert Ryan is too much man.
Speaker 5: So Tulsi who handled herself.
Speaker 4: Okay, you know some lying two days ago was brought
Speaker 4: back to the Hill. Let's roll some Tulsi from yesterday.
Speaker 4: Because this is they're just still taking the.
Speaker 3: They are just going to take this is every time
Speaker 3: he tests fied for Congress, you're going to be forced
Speaker 3: to sit there and eat l after l after.
Speaker 1: There's no defending it. And watch, let's take a listen.
Speaker 12: The time mister Whitcoff was actually in Russia during this
Speaker 12: chat discussion? Was he not?
Speaker 5: I was not aware of that.
Speaker 12: Was he on his personal phone at the time? I
Speaker 12: don't know what's my understanding that he was indeed in Russia?
Speaker 12: Director Dabberd. You were also traveling during this discussion, correct, yes?
Speaker 5: And where were you?
Speaker 1: I was traveling through the Asia Pacific region. I don't
Speaker 1: recall which country I was in at that time. You
Speaker 1: don't remember the country.
Speaker 5: I'd have to go back and look at this schedule
Speaker 5: we do. By the way, I have news.
Speaker 4: According to Whitcoff, yeah, he did not bring his phone,
Speaker 4: so okay, good, Yeah, no, but.
Speaker 3: Actually there's two things there were going on there. He goes,
Speaker 3: you guys, you idiots. You said that this was on
Speaker 3: my personal phone. I don't even have my personal phone
Speaker 3: in Russia. And you're like, okay, but you did just
Speaker 3: confirm this was on your personal phone. Man, you know,
Speaker 3: you just admitted that this is your personal phone. We're
Speaker 3: not supposed to do that in terms of in terms
Speaker 3: of the official government record.
Speaker 4: They can penetrate your phone while it's sitting on your bedside.
Speaker 3: And not to be annoying Ryan, because I do understand
Speaker 3: where people are going to take this the wrong way
Speaker 3: and be like, oh, are you asking for more inefficiency.
Speaker 3: I'd be fine if they use signal, but you do
Speaker 3: need to preserve these records. The reason why you preserve
Speaker 3: it is because there might be, let's say, a plot
Speaker 3: to assassinate the President of the United States that's never
Speaker 3: happened before, and then maybe a guy named Jefferson Morley
Speaker 3: sixty years from now needs to get to the bottom
Speaker 3: of said stuff and literally doesn't have access.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Some of my favorite books are the reconstructions of very
Speaker 3: like difficult policy periods. So, for example, the decision to
Speaker 3: oil embargo Japan. It is so useful to go back
Speaker 3: and to read the internal discussion Cordell Hall said this
Speaker 3: and a memorial and you could see the cables you
Speaker 3: had our ambassador being like, don't do it. This is
Speaker 3: going to lead to this Roosevelt the minim it's in
Speaker 3: the Oval office.
Speaker 1: You can literally watch it all happen in slow motion.
Speaker 1: Same thing.
Speaker 3: Another one of my favorite books is called It's Like
Speaker 3: This No it's the best and the brightest David Halberstam
Speaker 3: and specifically a reconstruction of the US decision to escalate
Speaker 3: into Vietnam. Same thing reading the cables, McGeorge Bundy, Robert McNamara.
Speaker 3: This stuff matters, Like, you know, I understand why the
Speaker 3: people in charge may not want it to be preserved,
Speaker 3: but for historical purposes, this is actually important.
Speaker 1: Someday some naval historian out there is.
Speaker 3: Going to write about the ability of the Hoothi's a
Speaker 3: non state actor with limited technology to fully blockade the
Speaker 3: entire red scene for the for the global empire.
Speaker 1: That's a remarkable event.
Speaker 4: No, right, you know, yeah, and they're gonna have to
Speaker 4: rely on like Fox news clips, right, We're gonna.
Speaker 3: On tweets and news clips and not be able to
Speaker 3: look back on it. And what I'm just saying is
Speaker 3: not just a norm, it's actually the law. Like you're
Speaker 3: supposed to have a restless preservation and for reason to
Speaker 3: be able to go back and for historical purposes and
Speaker 3: for subpoena and to make sure that the laws followed.
Speaker 3: And you know, just they're making a mockery not only
Speaker 3: of that, but really again, I just keep coming back
Speaker 3: to all of our intelligence. So same thing here, Director
Speaker 3: Ratcliffe from the CIA and Chelsea Gabbard still getting pressed
Speaker 3: and they just have nothing to say.
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.
Speaker 7: Did this conversation at some point include information on weapons packages,
Speaker 7: targets or timing.
Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of, Director Gabbard, same question, same answer,
Speaker 1: and defer to the Department of Defense on that question.
Speaker 7: Well that those are two different answers. But you're saying
Speaker 7: that that was not part of the conversation. Knowledge precise
Speaker 7: operational issues were not part of this conversation, correct.
Speaker 3: So that was previously and they said precise operations were
Speaker 3: not included there. We showed you all the messages, like,
Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious, Director of Ratcliffe for the CIA, not
Speaker 3: that I'm aware of.
Speaker 1: What are you aware of? Then you're not aware of.
Speaker 4: Of your own group chat? I mean, what's happening. I
Speaker 4: don't read every message in every group chat, but that
Speaker 4: they do on.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's probably out of all the messages in
Speaker 3: that chat, that's only what I'm reading, right, That's the
Speaker 3: one that I'm.
Speaker 1: Like, okay, got it.
Speaker 3: Paying an attention and you know, maybe you would want
Speaker 3: to scroll back in your phone and look at it.
Speaker 3: Look I just again, they are continuing this of their own,
Speaker 3: making the easiest thing to do. Immediately after Mike Wallas,
Speaker 3: we appreciate your service that Susie Wilds calls him up
Speaker 3: and says, Mike, listen, man, we all all made mistakes.
Speaker 3: You added a journalist, you added a journalist.
Speaker 1: The president needs his resignation letter on his desk right now.
Speaker 3: We got to go. We'll see what we wish, see
Speaker 3: the best, and then you move on, and everyone moves on.
Speaker 3: Everyone Okay, Yeah, it's really dumb mistake. Yeah, there might
Speaker 3: be one or two things, but instead it's a you know,
Speaker 3: one day thing now becomes a one week thing that
Speaker 3: we've been covering this. I guarantee you the fallout and
Speaker 3: all this is going to continue. Every Republican in Congress
Speaker 3: is gonna get asked about this. Every Republican or every
Speaker 3: member of the Trump cabinet, you're gonna be pressed about that.
Speaker 3: They're not even going to be able to do a
Speaker 3: press conference now forever. I mean Trump. Every single quote.
Speaker 3: I watched the entire White House press briefing room. Nine
Speaker 3: out of eleven questions were about this signal chat. And
Speaker 3: she was like, is this all that you guys have
Speaker 3: to ask about? And it's like yeah, because you're lying
Speaker 3: and you're just keep saying stupid shit, Like we're gonna
Speaker 3: have our technical experts look into this.
Speaker 1: This is not going away.
Speaker 4: And the press loves when an official says a thing
Speaker 4: that can be verified and you can verify that it's
Speaker 4: not true, like they love that.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what it is.
Speaker 3: Right and well, and you know, I think the public
Speaker 3: loves it too. Like I said, there's something about the story.
Speaker 3: It has penetrated the zeitgeist. People are loving it, they're
Speaker 3: eating it up. The memes are everywhere.
Speaker 5: Stupid.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the sheer stupidity of it. And then if
Speaker 3: we pair that at a major pull out level. What again,
Speaker 3: If I'm the government, what do I want my narrative
Speaker 3: to be. I want it to be about tariffs. I
Speaker 3: want it to be about immigrate, about the auto that's right,
Speaker 3: auto tariffs and more. We haven't decided to put in
Speaker 3: the show because it's actually kind of unclear what exactly
Speaker 3: they are, and I want to see the actual effect
Speaker 3: as they go in, just in terms of the whether
Speaker 3: it applies to just finish cars or not.
Speaker 1: So we'll probably cover it on Monday.
Speaker 3: But the point is that you want like news about
Speaker 3: things that you're doing to be the thing. And so again,
Speaker 3: like I said, even on the deportations, Look, we can
Speaker 3: argue about due process and all that stuff all day long.
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, this stuff is pretty popular,
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of deportation.
Speaker 5: We'll acknowledge that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's popular.
Speaker 11: Like that.
Speaker 3: That's what the ground that I want to be fighting on.
Speaker 3: Just today there was some MS thirteen operations.
Speaker 1: Same thing.
Speaker 3: That's what you want the news to be about. Now
Speaker 3: they can say, oh, it's your fault because you're not
Speaker 3: covering it. It's like, no, no, no, no, you're the people
Speaker 3: who made a colossal national security mistake, and you refuse
Speaker 3: to fire the guy and then be clown yourself elf
Speaker 3: for you know, a seventy two hour period by attacking
Speaker 3: the people who reported it as opposed to the people
Speaker 3: who were responsible for it. You deserve everything that's coming
Speaker 3: your way. So what this is the clown show? This
Speaker 3: is the car clown show. That reminds me just of
Speaker 3: twenty and seventeen, except then I think Trump would have
Speaker 3: had the good sense to actually fire him.
Speaker 1: I mean Skaramuchi was fired after what thirteen days?
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're accidentally buttressing the credibility of the Atlantic
Speaker 4: and Jeffy.
Speaker 5: Gould, Right, I know, people be like, oh, maybe that
Speaker 5: wasn't a hoax. Isn't that the worst losers thing?
Speaker 3: Isn't that the worst part? That The Atlantic has been
Speaker 3: getting a bunch more subscribers.
Speaker 1: It's like, guys, why do you do this? Yeah, they
Speaker 1: need each other. They were failing. They literally would go
Speaker 1: on their road to bankruptcy before.
Speaker 3: All of this, and now you just gave them the
Speaker 3: number one story in the world. It drove a ton
Speaker 3: of subscriptions. I bet you they printed millions just.
Speaker 5: Off of this. Don't Bezis' wife, No.
Speaker 3: Loreene Powell Jobs even worse Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs's widow
Speaker 3: is the person who is bankrupt. They were going to
Speaker 3: be Okay, Yeah, they're always key fun, but yeah, why
Speaker 3: they even pretend to need to make money is always
Speaker 3: like a whole lot of That's a difficult and different conversation.
Speaker 4: In a special election for state Senate in Pennsylvania, Democrats
Speaker 4: flipped a deep red Republican district. James Malone ended up
Speaker 4: defeating the Republican candidate by just a few hundred votes.
Speaker 4: On the other hand, you only have a few thousand
Speaker 4: people that end up voting in these races. This is
Speaker 4: Lancaster County, the suburbs outside of Lancaster and the more
Speaker 4: rural areas there. Trump had won it by something like
Speaker 4: fifteen points. Let's roll a little bit of James Malone,
Speaker 4: very Lancaster man winning this seat.
Speaker 12: There is no safe seat, or there's no place that
Speaker 12: is not available to run.
Speaker 3: Hours after polls closed across northern Lancaster County, Democrat James
Speaker 3: Malone was projected the winner of tuesday special election.
Speaker 4: You can certainly imagine that guy being a good time
Speaker 4: at the tailgate ahead of the Birds game, can you not?
Speaker 5: Saga? And apparently so.
Speaker 4: He was running against the chairman of the County Langaster
Speaker 4: count Commission, who obviously is a high profile guy in
Speaker 4: the area but not terribly well liked. Elon Musk had
Speaker 4: invested some energy in this race. You know, he had
Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of paid voters throughout the state
Speaker 4: in his database, after you know, offering you know, one
Speaker 4: hundred bucks to anybody that would sign his petition and
Speaker 4: then then go out and vote against the law, by
Speaker 4: the way.
Speaker 5: But you know.
Speaker 3: This is so significant is not just the Trump margin
Speaker 3: but the registration advantage. So one of the things that
Speaker 3: was a canary in the coal mine ahead of the
Speaker 3: election was the crazy registration numbers coming out of Bucks
Speaker 3: County and a few other places. Is something that Scott Pressler,
Speaker 3: who's one of those Republican activists, really bragged about about
Speaker 3: the ability to have registered Republicans, and that registration figure
Speaker 3: ended up being obviously a canary in terms of the
Speaker 3: Republican advantage in the state of Pennsylvania, and actually the
Speaker 3: flipping of some of these districts that previously.
Speaker 1: Had gone for Biden and went to Trump.
Speaker 3: So the reason why this is significant is that in
Speaker 3: this county, the Republicans actually held a huge registration advantage.
Speaker 3: Now the seat opens up because the person who held
Speaker 3: it left to go work for Dave McCormick. That's the
Speaker 3: currently the Republican in the United States Senate for this
Speaker 3: state of Pennsylvania. But the Democrat has not won this
Speaker 3: seat since nineteen seventy nine, so.
Speaker 4: Like eighteen yeah, so look eighteen seventy nine, Oh, it
Speaker 4: was really yeah, have post reconstruction, big deal, Tawi.
Speaker 3: And the reason why it all matters is that in
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania they're all doing post Trump analysis.
Speaker 1: What do we even do now?
Speaker 3: Josh Shapiro recorded a robo call that went to all
Speaker 3: of the people in the district. Remember Shapiro dramatically more
Speaker 3: popular than any other Democrat, like in the entire state.
Speaker 3: What is your thirteen percent approval of margin or something
Speaker 3: like that.
Speaker 1: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: It might even repubably be nineteen You're right, it might
Speaker 3: honestly even be higher now here.
Speaker 1: We see it.
Speaker 5: I mean, you might be right, nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, but that's yeah, that's as democratic
Speaker 4: district back regardles.
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter a long time.
Speaker 3: It's been a while. Eighteen their nineteen seventy nine, same thing,
Speaker 3: same day. Let's just consider that what we see here
Speaker 3: is a blessing and a curse for the Democrats. The
Speaker 3: blessing is this, before the election of twenty twenty four,
Speaker 3: these Libs who are registered and want to vote in
Speaker 3: low turnout elections.
Speaker 1: They are ready to roll.
Speaker 3: They're ready to you know, put up their signs and
Speaker 3: they're ready to vote, and they're ready to donate and
Speaker 3: to get activated that's the midterm advantage, same thing reason
Speaker 3: why we saw big midterm game there for the Democrat.
Speaker 3: The problem is is that in a high turnout election
Speaker 3: with very low propensity, people people who have no idea
Speaker 3: what the State Senate even is, which you know, I
Speaker 3: get it, if you're just living your life, you're like,
Speaker 3: what is the State Senate? You mean the United States Senate.
Speaker 3: For those folks, they are dramatically more pro Trump this
Speaker 3: time around. So we don't want to read too much
Speaker 3: into this, but it's still obviously very important, especially for
Speaker 3: the midterms because midterms is usually lower turnout, which means
Speaker 3: that the more dedicated people come out. And you just
Speaker 3: can't look back at the Obama presidency and not say
Speaker 3: that twenty ten genuinely did change everything.
Speaker 5: Right because they're the makeup. They were winning special elections
Speaker 5: and nonne.
Speaker 1: Exactly, they were blowing it out.
Speaker 6: No.
Speaker 1: Nine.
Speaker 3: You could see all the tea party stuff, all the
Speaker 3: script was right there for those of us who are watching.
Speaker 4: And Lancaster is a particularly well organized area for the left.
Speaker 4: There's a group called Lancaster Stands Up that I've written
Speaker 4: about in the past, going back to like twenty eighteen,
Speaker 4: they've been doing a lot of grassroots organizing and door
Speaker 4: knocking and building up their local capacity, and so they
Speaker 4: might be slightly better positioned even in a.
Speaker 5: Special election than in general.
Speaker 4: But Democrats are looking at this and what you saw
Speaker 4: from a lot of them was okay, Now onto Wisconsin.
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk about that. Can you break that down here?
Speaker 4: So Wisconsin, there's a Supreme Court race coming up between
Speaker 4: the liberal is or the Democrat. It's a non partisan race.
Speaker 4: Susan Crawford on on that side, and Brad Shimmel is
Speaker 4: the county judge, former Republican state attorney general. So even
Speaker 4: though it is a non partisan race, everybody knows, everybody
Speaker 4: Wisconsin knows. If you're a Democrat, you want Crawford, if
Speaker 4: you're probably want Shimmel. There are obviously major issues on
Speaker 4: all that it will come to the Supreme Court, abortion rights,
Speaker 4: but also you know, jerry mandering and election laws. That's
Speaker 4: that's what matters on the kount of national level, because Wisconsin,
Speaker 4: of course will continue to be a battleground state.
Speaker 5: Elon Musk has.
Speaker 4: His groups have put in He has put in something
Speaker 4: like seventeen million.
Speaker 5: Dollars so far. It's like the most that.
Speaker 4: There's been for a Supreme Court campaign already. It was
Speaker 4: April first, So this coming Tuesday, this election, Emily will
Speaker 4: be there on the ground for the election. Wisconsin Native Democrats,
Speaker 4: you know, they have money, they're you know, they're obviously
Speaker 4: can't keep up with you know, Tesla cash, but you
Speaker 4: know they're they're not going to be They're not going
Speaker 4: to be completely ignored and blanked off of the airwaves.
Speaker 5: Wisconsin is going to have a Supreme Court race every
Speaker 5: year for the next six years or something.
Speaker 4: So we're going to potentially see a lot of why
Speaker 4: do they care so much though back and forth.
Speaker 1: Why do they care so much here about the state
Speaker 1: Supreme Court?
Speaker 4: Because they because the geromandary cases which will influence whether
Speaker 4: or not you know what you know the So the
Speaker 4: Republicans when they took control in twenty ten of the
Speaker 4: state drew redrew the boundaries for the local, for the
Speaker 4: state legislature and also for the federal one, so that
Speaker 4: the House delegation has been imbalanced. Despite it being people
Speaker 4: can look it up now, but despite it being a
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty state, far more Republicans getting sent to Washington.
Speaker 5: So if you if you can chip away at that.
Speaker 4: When you only have a three state deficit in the House,
Speaker 4: it's important to move from there to retake control of
Speaker 4: the House for Democrats. And then the Supreme Court decides
Speaker 4: when you can vote, what the mail what the male
Speaker 4: voting rules are, what the what the what the rules
Speaker 4: are around counting.
Speaker 5: You just had this.
Speaker 4: Executive order from Trump yesterday trying to kind of take
Speaker 4: federal control of elections. It won't work because federal government
Speaker 4: doesn't really have that level of control, especially without congressional action.
Speaker 4: He tried to put in something in place that says,
Speaker 4: you know, ballots that come in after election day, which
Speaker 4: are mostly military ballots, you know, can't be counted.
Speaker 5: But that so that's the.
Speaker 4: Battleground and and the and the battleground is the Wisconsin
Speaker 4: Supreme Court got it. It's when Pennsylvania flipped its Supreme
Speaker 4: Court in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. Republicans see that as
Speaker 4: a key reason that they lost Pennsylvania in twenty twenty
Speaker 4: because then the court opened up, you know, did redistricting
Speaker 4: and open and opened up mail voting. That's in a
Speaker 4: way that the Trump team thought was you know, fraudulent
Speaker 4: and unfair and illegal in all those.
Speaker 1: States because they probably would. Whatever'll get into that.
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you just happened to win the presidency
Speaker 3: with lower propensity voters next time, but whatever.
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to go into that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you said, this election, I was just looking
Speaker 3: determines whether you have the four to three liberal control.
Speaker 3: So this literally will determine the flip them. So that's
Speaker 3: why it's so important. And then more so you actually
Speaker 3: looking at some of the data. Pretty honestly, I've been
Speaker 3: pretty feeling pretty goody for I was a Democrat. Nearly
Speaker 3: forty eight percent more early ballots have been cast compared
Speaker 3: to the same point from two years ago.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't.
Speaker 4: Know if you only do so much intodies, right, and
Speaker 4: this is low perpendsy because if you're voting in the
Speaker 4: Supreme Court election, you care more than the average personalitics.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have real like you're no offense, but you're weird,
Speaker 3: you we care a lot of youscons you.
Speaker 5: Might end up getting a couple million people turn out.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so right now it is more than three hundred
Speaker 3: and forty five thousand people have returned their ballots rather
Speaker 3: by mailer part that's crazy compared to two hundred and
Speaker 3: thirty three thousand at this point just two years ago.
Speaker 3: What is even the voting population of Wisconsin. It can't
Speaker 3: be that many. So honestly, good for you guys. That's
Speaker 3: that's pretty high voter participation. But I mean they're also
Speaker 3: being bombarded with ads. Apparently more than eighty one million
Speaker 3: dollars has been spent now on a state Supreme court race,
Speaker 3: just to show you guys how important that is. So
Speaker 3: not just Elon who is moving in here, but you
Speaker 3: know this Susan Crawford, she apparently has raised more than
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars right now for the race over
Speaker 3: not to be they are actual, like she's got George
Speaker 3: Soros apparently going back backing her.
Speaker 1: JB.
Speaker 3: Pritzker, who has been doing some rallies and stuff. So
Speaker 3: they're blanketing the entire state. And like I said, it's
Speaker 3: not that big of a state, so you easily could
Speaker 3: reach you know, a lot of people.
Speaker 1: With this amount of overall media attention. So super interesting.
Speaker 3: Just you know, we're always looking for what does it
Speaker 3: mean all of this, especially for the midterms. Like usually,
Speaker 3: I think the rule here is that with the midterms,
Speaker 3: these lower propensities, special elections and other things, you're gonna
Speaker 3: have to really pay attention to them. It also goes
Speaker 3: to it's a big test case of Elon because you know,
Speaker 3: there's still a lot of question over how much influence
Speaker 3: Elon actually had on the Pennsylvania results, because you know,
Speaker 3: his people obviously want to be like, yeah, see our
Speaker 3: registration drive and all that. I'm not going to downplay it,
Speaker 3: but the fact is is that we saw a national trend.
Speaker 3: You know, you can only pay so many people or
Speaker 3: inspire them to come sign some registration and it would
Speaker 3: be it would be different if Pennsylvania dramatically outperformed the
Speaker 3: rest of the country, but it kind of didn't. You know,
Speaker 3: the same low propensity figures. We're across the entire nation,
Speaker 3: from California to Texas, you know, to even here Virginia
Speaker 3: the margins for Donald Trump. So you can see even
Speaker 3: where Elon and his groups had in Virginia, they still
Speaker 3: had a huge run up in the overall tally, and
Speaker 3: obviously Trump won the popular vote, so pretty important, right, yeah,
Speaker 3: keeping it all together, We're going to watch that, guys.
Speaker 3: But the Democratic race, it certainly matters a lot, and
Speaker 3: Emily's gonna be on the ground solestually fun. We can
Speaker 3: get a on the ground report from her