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Speaker 4: Daily clamoring for what you and Emily. They just want

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Speaker 3: In fact, if Emily and I did to show together,

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Speaker 3: Let's go ahead and get started. We're going to be

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Speaker 3: covering the fallout from Signal Gate. Ryan and Emily did

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Speaker 3: a great job yesterday. They broke down some of the

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Speaker 3: new messages. We're going to fully go through all of them,

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Speaker 3: what they reveal, what the excuses are, what the administration

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Speaker 3: section in terms of the politics, as this continues to

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Speaker 3: be actually one of the biggest Trump scandals that has

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Speaker 3: yet penetrated. Current data tells us it is the number

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Speaker 3: one story currently of the Trump administration that has gone

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Speaker 3: viral to everybody, kind of astounding some of the political

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Speaker 3: fallout Here in Washington, Tulsea Gabbard and John Ratcliffe in

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Speaker 3: front of Congress there getting pressed about it. We're going

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Speaker 3: to talk about the Democrats. They were able to flip

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Speaker 3: a Trump district in the Pennsylvania Senate seat.

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Speaker 1: Super interesting.

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Speaker 3: It's the state's obviously, but does give US some indication

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Speaker 3: this was what Trump plus fifteen Trump plus sixteen district

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Speaker 3: a sign of west to come in the midterms. We're

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Speaker 3: going to talk about some interesting developments in Gaza. There's

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Speaker 3: been some protests on the ground in Gaza. Some people

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Speaker 3: are saying it's against Hamas, some against perhaps like the

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Speaker 3: Israeli military campaign.

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Speaker 1: Ryan's going to break that down for us.

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Speaker 3: There have been continuing arrests of some pro Palestinian foreign

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Speaker 3: students here in the United States.

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Speaker 1: Ryan's going to give us an update on that.

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Speaker 3: And then finally Ryan and I will update NPR and PBS.

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Speaker 3: We're going to talk about the defund campaign currently happening

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Speaker 3: in Congress and some hilarious footage just no matter what

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Speaker 3: side you fall on, that is coming out of Congress.

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Speaker 3: But with that, let's go ahead and get to the

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Speaker 3: signal texts, shall we. So, after the Trump administration spent

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Speaker 3: information there at all. Nothing, don't worry about it. Everything

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Speaker 3: was totally above board. Jeffrey Goldberg over the Atlantic against

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Speaker 3: his better nature, Ryan, because he was trying to protect

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Speaker 3: all of us from all this classified information.

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Speaker 1: He just said, you know, it's screw it.

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Speaker 3: I'm going to release all of them. And you know what,

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Speaker 3: he should have done that from the very beginning. But okay,

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Speaker 3: for ourselves, and judge, that's called journalism, isn't it?

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Speaker 1: Isn't it? So okay, let's go ahead and put them

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Speaker 3: Now, what do you notice in that very first text message, Ryan,

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Speaker 1: Michael Waltz added to you to the group.

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Speaker 5: There you go.

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Speaker 3: The second thing is what disappearing message time set to

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Speaker 1: Why is it set to one week? That's crazy?

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Speaker 1: It's totally ridiculous.

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Speaker 3: Now let's continue, shall we We cut out and we're

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Speaker 3: driving this timeline for the strike against the Hoothi's. We

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Speaker 3: will have the exact same options in a month.

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Speaker 1: Quote.

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Speaker 3: The Israelis will likely take strikes and therefore ask us

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Speaker 4: So, by the way, can we boll has on this

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Speaker 4: real quickly because there are a group of people in

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Speaker 4: this country who still care about the constitution and the

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Speaker 4: war powers, uh huh, and have insisted that this was

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Speaker 4: an illegal strike and that you need congressional authorization for it.

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Speaker 4: This proves that it was the case, because the only

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Speaker 4: this was an emergency. That's right, because obviously commander in

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Speaker 4: service members die just because of paperwork. They are admitting

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Speaker 4: in writing that there is no rush. They're literally saying,

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Speaker 4: do it later. Therefore, constitutionally speaking, you're required to get

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Speaker 3: Unless it's the two thousand and one Authorization of Military Force,

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Speaker 4: Don't even think they yeah, because that's against al KaiA

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Speaker 1: But Ryan, they've been updating that there for a long time, right,

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Speaker 5: As we will talk about later in this show.

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Speaker 1: Who even cares about that anymore?

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Speaker 3: But let's continue here with the text messages, shall we,

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Speaker 3: this in here about mister Waltz Mike Waltz here. You

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Speaker 3: could see him here arguing with jd Vance, who is saying, hey,

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Speaker 3: why are we doing this only three percent? He's like, well,

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Speaker 3: actually the trade figures we are fifteen percent of global

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Speaker 3: and thirty percent of container. It's difficult to break that

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Speaker 1: The Hoothies are now using. Let's pause on that, shall we.

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Speaker 3: So these European nations, let's say Germany, the UK, France,

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Speaker 3: And so if our national security advisor is saying they don't.

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Speaker 1: Even have the capability to deal with.

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Speaker 3: A group that has been bombed into smithereens for the

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Speaker 3: that they've gotten, you know, by a transfer, that's a

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Speaker 3: bit of a problem. Shall we can we all just

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Speaker 3: sit there and ruminate on that a little bit?

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Speaker 4: Lucky luckily for Europe, right, and lucky the UK and

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Speaker 4: France and the rest of them. Waltz is either a

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Speaker 4: liar or a moron. Everything you read there is a lie. Yes,

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Speaker 4: like they do have the capacity to shoot missiles.

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Speaker 3: Or it's like or Mike Waltz is saying that we

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Speaker 3: need to do it now.

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Speaker 1: The only reason that.

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Speaker 5: We lying so that we can be the one that's right.

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Speaker 3: And why would we be the ones to do it

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Speaker 3: Either a to feel big and tough and to stick

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Speaker 3: it to Iran because that definitely worked under Biden, or

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Speaker 3: it's to defend Israel. And as they admit also in

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Speaker 3: the chat, the fall apart of the ceasefire has direct.

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Speaker 1: Impacts here, as Joe kentims Health admitted.

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Speaker 3: Now, let's continue here with the text messages and let's

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Speaker 3: to rights, and let's keep this up here because this,

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Speaker 3: by the way, America, this is what your government is

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Speaker 3: telling you is not classified. This is before the Strike

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Speaker 3: fifteen thirty six F eighteen second strike targets. Also first

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Speaker 3: included there.

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Speaker 3: Stop, you know, for a second, Like this level of

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Speaker 3: retardation is honestly just too much for me. Like you're

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Speaker 3: the munitions and the exact time of an attack was

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Speaker 3: not classified at the time that you send it, Fine, then.

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Speaker 1: Tweet it out if you believe that.

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Speaker 3: If you believe that, then allow any American service member

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Speaker 3: privy to that information to post it ahead of the attack.

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Speaker 1: Okay, go ahead. Now, as you and I know, Ryan, the.

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Speaker 3: Stupidest shit in the world is classified by the United

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Speaker 3: you all saw with the JFK file. So there is

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Speaker 3: genuinely no universe on planet Earth where this was not

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Speaker 3: classified at the There was no like not classified at

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Speaker 3: the screen because this was the you know, quote unquote

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Speaker 3: No locations, no sources and methods, no war plans. Foreign

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Speaker 3: partners have already been notified. Bottom line, President Trump is

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Speaker 3: Pete Heggsath shared attack plans and not war plans, Thus

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Speaker 5: I pray for victory, what do you would pray for victory? Victory?

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Speaker 3: You're striking off of a ship, right, We're invert like

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Speaker 5: And it's also victory. Guess what the red sea blockade

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Speaker 1: Will it work?

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Speaker 1: Okay? But what are we doing here again?

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Speaker 3: And you know, there's so much to say here, both

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Speaker 5: Mole a human source.

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Speaker 4: So did Hagseth give up a human source or Waltz

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Speaker 3: post it. Fine, I'm fine with that. Actually be useful

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Speaker 3: let's try that. So I already showed you, guys, Mike

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Speaker 1: Let's take a lesson.

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Speaker 7: What is it about what Pete Hegseth wrote that makes

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Speaker 1: Nobody's texting war plans.

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Speaker 1: Attack plans not war plans.

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Speaker 3: They're insulting all of our intelligence as if this is

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Speaker 3: Oh they got sucked in.

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Speaker 4: Every every guy in the country who's been caught teating his.

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Speaker 1: Foot or her number got sucked in.

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Speaker 5: No guy would even like.

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Speaker 3: Nobody, No one is even dumb enough to try that.

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Speaker 3: You got to have some other like, oh, my friend

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Speaker 3: I didn't know what it was.

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Speaker 1: Fellas.

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Speaker 5: I want to text Jeffrey Goldberg.

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Speaker 1: Fellas, try that one next time. It's just too much.

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Speaker 10: I need to call foreign ministers, especially of our close allies.

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Speaker 6: We need to notify members of Congress.

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Speaker 6: And that was the purpose of why it was set up.

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Speaker 10: Obviously, someone made a mistake, someone made a big.

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Speaker 6: Mistake and added a journalist.

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Speaker 6: They got on there and this happened.

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Speaker 3: you have to fire the idiot who made a mistake.

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00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,359
Speaker 3: That's why I'm like, you know, watching heg Seth have

443
00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 3: to contort himself into a knot this is It's not

444
00:20:25,680 --> 00:20:26,359
Speaker 3: even his fault.

445
00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:27,000
Speaker 1: This is Trump.

446
00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,119
Speaker 3: Trump is standing by and just allowing this idiot to

447
00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,560
Speaker 3: stay in his job. I also want to say this,

448
00:20:33,680 --> 00:20:36,320
Speaker 3: I think Trump is losing his edge in the old days.

449
00:20:36,440 --> 00:20:39,680
Speaker 3: Anyone who have flailed like that on television.

450
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:43,320
Speaker 4: You're right, first term, that's the crime, right, Yeah, well admitted.

451
00:20:43,480 --> 00:20:46,639
Speaker 1: Did you not see that TV interview? It was humiliating.

452
00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,160
Speaker 3: You know, anybody, you don't even need like a sixty

453
00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,160
Speaker 3: IQ to watch that and be like, yeah, this.

454
00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:53,919
Speaker 1: Guy is this is this is obviously lying.

455
00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:57,760
Speaker 3: And Trump is not only allowing this, He's been clowning

456
00:20:57,880 --> 00:21:02,160
Speaker 3: himself by allowing this to keep working for him. Who's like, oh,

457
00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:05,080
Speaker 3: it got sucked into my phone? And now the White

458
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 3: House said yesterday that Elon Musk's technical experts are what.

459
00:21:10,200 --> 00:21:12,480
Speaker 1: Technical expertsy do you get on the case.

460
00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:16,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, we need a forensic chain to look at how

461
00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,399
Speaker 3: this happened. The guy had the phone number in his

462
00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,439
Speaker 3: phone and then they added the wrong number.

463
00:21:21,760 --> 00:21:25,479
Speaker 1: It's not hard done, it is done. Yeah, he's closed.

464
00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 4: We need an efficient review of this, not big Balls

465
00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:30,400
Speaker 4: spending weeks with a committee.

466
00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 3: I just can't get you know, for me, Ryn, you know,

467
00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:35,760
Speaker 3: I'm watching these National Park rangers get fired, and you know,

468
00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,159
Speaker 3: all these other folks get fired. Maybe some need to go,

469
00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,520
Speaker 3: maybe some don't, whatever, But this guy gets the second

470
00:21:41,600 --> 00:21:42,720
Speaker 3: chance forgiveness.

471
00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:47,000
Speaker 4: We know, fourteen years of impeccable performance reviews, right, and

472
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:50,119
Speaker 4: you're fired, Yes, because big Balls didn't understand what your

473
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:53,000
Speaker 4: job was and it and it's and it's had something

474
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 4: in the word diversity, Yeah, was in it. And so

475
00:21:56,880 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 4: but Michael, this guts to keep his job.

476
00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:59,520
Speaker 5: This guy is fine.

477
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,119
Speaker 3: It's again it insults the intelligence of all good people.

478
00:22:03,240 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 3: Next part, let's let's go to this one because this

479
00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:09,160
Speaker 3: is great. So as you'll all recall, Mike Waltz said

480
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 3: I have never met and never communicated.

481
00:22:11,720 --> 00:22:15,240
Speaker 1: With Jeffrey Goldberg before. Here's a photo of him and

482
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Speaker 1: Jeffy Goldberg all right, standing right next to you.

483
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Speaker 5: Tell the world where they are.

484
00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:19,919
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's.

485
00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 3: Actually even better at the French embassy where there are attendant.

486
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:27,720
Speaker 3: What was some French with a French filmmaker. Yeah, that's right,

487
00:22:27,760 --> 00:22:30,880
Speaker 3: some Q and A for a French filmmaker. I'll tell

488
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Speaker 3: you it is a nice embassy for all being, it's

489
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Speaker 3: a beautif.

490
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Speaker 5: It's a bit incredible.

491
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:39,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know that is the heart of Swamp Washington.

492
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,359
Speaker 1: It's just it's too much.

493
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:47,600
Speaker 3: Again where the guy says I've never met and never communicated,

494
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,720
Speaker 3: and then except the French embassy and here's a photo

495
00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 3: of me standing right next to him. What you think

496
00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 3: they didn't have a little conversation right before that. Maybe

497
00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,200
Speaker 3: that's when his number got sucked into his phone. Right, Yes,

498
00:23:00,240 --> 00:23:03,200
Speaker 3: it's just again, you know, I can say it over

499
00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,440
Speaker 3: and over and then finally a six let's put it

500
00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:09,399
Speaker 3: up here. Mike Wallace Apparently for some reason, his Venmo

501
00:23:09,520 --> 00:23:10,320
Speaker 3: list is public.

502
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: I was talking to the team this morning.

503
00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:13,119
Speaker 3: I was like, bro, am I the only guys that

504
00:23:13,240 --> 00:23:15,119
Speaker 3: is private venmoll list, And so I was like, twenty

505
00:23:15,200 --> 00:23:16,000
Speaker 3: years old.

506
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,200
Speaker 1: Is what are we doing here?

507
00:23:17,320 --> 00:23:19,919
Speaker 4: Is Michael Waltz still walking around with this phone that

508
00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:21,480
Speaker 4: is known to just suck up random not.

509
00:23:21,560 --> 00:23:23,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's right, this is a de Would you want

510
00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:23,960
Speaker 1: to get rid of this? Phone.

511
00:23:24,000 --> 00:23:25,680
Speaker 5: This is very Yeah, this is bad.

512
00:23:25,800 --> 00:23:28,600
Speaker 3: So let's presume here that the CNN journalist and the

513
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:31,399
Speaker 3: MSNBC producer and all these other journalists which were publicly

514
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 3: available at Mike Waltz's venmo also got sucked into his phone.

515
00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: In terms of how this all happened, like goat shakes out.

516
00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 3: At this point, Trump is now allowed the humiliation of

517
00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 3: this new cycle to continue. He has given Congressional Democrats

518
00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,159
Speaker 3: the greatest blessing to drag out some dumb you know,

519
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:56,639
Speaker 3: you know, a long hearing process because now if they

520
00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:59,439
Speaker 3: don't fire Waltz, so they can try and compel them

521
00:23:59,480 --> 00:24:00,760
Speaker 3: to Of course, this is not going to happen.

522
00:24:00,800 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: He refused executive privilege.

523
00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:06,000
Speaker 3: The Secretary of Defense has to testify legally before Congress.

524
00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 3: I think, what is it four or five times a

525
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,199
Speaker 3: year or something like that, and so they're obviously going

526
00:24:09,240 --> 00:24:11,600
Speaker 3: to press him if the Democrats do take the midterms.

527
00:24:11,680 --> 00:24:15,080
Speaker 3: What's the easiest, you know, Lewinsky style hearing type of

528
00:24:15,080 --> 00:24:19,359
Speaker 3: thing to initiate classified hearings referring things to the you

529
00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,719
Speaker 3: just bought yourself two years of scandal for no reason.

530
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:25,119
Speaker 3: And you know, people might think this is dumb, but

531
00:24:25,240 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: I mentioned this in the intro. Axios did some data analysis.

532
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 3: This is the most viral story of the Trump administration.

533
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:33,280
Speaker 1: This is everywhere.

534
00:24:33,560 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 4: Andy Cohen joked about it on Watch What Happens Live

535
00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:36,680
Speaker 4: last night.

536
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:37,320
Speaker 1: There you go, So.

537
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,240
Speaker 3: That's what I mean. But okay, even take that out

538
00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:44,000
Speaker 3: of it. Go on TikTok or Instagram or any of these.

539
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,439
Speaker 3: Everyone is making jokes about the group chat like it

540
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:48,080
Speaker 3: entered the zeitgeist.

541
00:24:48,119 --> 00:24:50,919
Speaker 4: Andy Cohen joked about it just talking about signals, as in,

542
00:24:51,280 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 4: everyone understands this, like didn't need any context.

543
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,680
Speaker 1: They go, it's just everyone understands the whole country.

544
00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,840
Speaker 3: If you're even like tangentially, you know, experiencing pop culture

545
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:05,160
Speaker 3: or the news or TV, this show, YouTube, whatever, you've

546
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:06,400
Speaker 3: heard about this, because.

547
00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: This is a real thing.

548
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 4: Everyone's made that mistake, they have, but nobody has defended it.

549
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,920
Speaker 3: And nobody has defended it as stupidly as Mike Walls.

550
00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:16,439
Speaker 3: And so you know, I just keep coming back to this.

551
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:21,640
Speaker 3: You have a guy who literally committed the greatest Washington

552
00:25:21,720 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 3: sin that you can make. Number one is jeopardized classified information.

553
00:25:25,320 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 3: Then the second greatest Washington staffer sin is you become

554
00:25:29,040 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: the story. You embarrass your boss, and now his boss

555
00:25:33,240 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 3: who is firing tens of thousands of people based on

556
00:25:35,840 --> 00:25:38,719
Speaker 3: efficiency claims and others and excellence in government, and we're

557
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: getting rid of DEI is keeping this idiot around.

558
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,280
Speaker 1: It's just shocking.

559
00:25:43,480 --> 00:25:45,920
Speaker 4: And yeah, the problem that Democrats seem to have here

560
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 4: is that they seem hell bent on trying to use

561
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 4: this to get rid of Pete heggsay.

562
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:52,199
Speaker 1: I noticed that.

563
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,240
Speaker 3: I was going to ask you about that, because I

564
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 3: don't get it. They got him dead to rights. He's

565
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: an idiot. It's done close case.

566
00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 4: I mean, look, the guy was sharing is a pro

567
00:26:04,400 --> 00:26:06,840
Speaker 4: war like Washington creature.

568
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,399
Speaker 1: I was going to say, And I think that makes him.

569
00:26:08,280 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 4: More Democrats are more comfortable with pro war Washington creatures

570
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 4: who have the support of APAC right and the pro

571
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:19,960
Speaker 4: Ukraine war types like That's Democrats are just more comfortable

572
00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:23,840
Speaker 4: with that kind of guy than with Hegxeth, who is

573
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 4: more skeptical of I mean this his signal chats, notwithstanding

574
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 4: like he's not exactly a dove.

575
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:32,080
Speaker 1: He's not a dove.

576
00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,520
Speaker 3: He's not he's got a bad Neocon pass, but he's

577
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:38,560
Speaker 3: more maga let's put it that. Yeah, Whereas Walts, like

578
00:26:38,600 --> 00:26:40,440
Speaker 3: you said, I mean this guy was arguing for war

579
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: with Russia, like yesterday, yeah, forty work for.

580
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,200
Speaker 5: He's like actively kind of undermined.

581
00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 3: Right, He's like you can see it in the group chat.

582
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 3: This guy's like, no, actually beat the bomb yeh. And

583
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 3: here's why, because there's some chat g there's analysis thirty.

584
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,920
Speaker 4: Of the containers or who knows where those goods are going?

585
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 4: And the European you know, they may manufacture something it

586
00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 4: and then other.

587
00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,320
Speaker 5: Other component parts wind up, can hear? So really we

588
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:01,879
Speaker 5: should go to war with the entire world.

589
00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 1: That's right.

590
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 3: It's like, okay, got it again. It's just the stupidest

591
00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:11,119
Speaker 3: possible move. And watching the White House and even JD

592
00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 3: he was attacking Goldberg.

593
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:16,000
Speaker 5: Democrats, Just go are we doing Democrats?

594
00:27:16,040 --> 00:27:19,959
Speaker 3: We're attacking Jeffrey Goldberg. I just readed something to that ran.

595
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,119
Speaker 4: You know what making us defend Jeffrey Goldberg?

596
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:23,960
Speaker 1: Goldberg?

597
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 3: I hate the man so much, And I said this,

598
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 3: I go a journal exaggerating his headline. Now a bigger

599
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,959
Speaker 3: problem than being the National Security Advisor of the USA

600
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,399
Speaker 3: actually adding said journal to the chat and lying about it.

601
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:40,560
Speaker 3: As I said, you need a sub sixty IQ to

602
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:41,240
Speaker 3: go along with it.

603
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 4: And the better headline was, you know, war planners exposed

604
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 4: war crime in real time. Here you go, that's a

605
00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,560
Speaker 4: good headline. You know what else is he kept that

606
00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 4: out right that they knocked out apart.

607
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:54,880
Speaker 3: The other thing I can't really understand here about Goldberg

608
00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:58,600
Speaker 3: is he's clearly protecting Waltz to some degree because because

609
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,960
Speaker 3: they are obviously. But at the same time, if someone

610
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,320
Speaker 3: was like, if I lead something, let's say, and someone

611
00:28:04,359 --> 00:28:06,080
Speaker 3: was like, oh, I've never met soccer before, I'm like, okay, oh,

612
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:07,480
Speaker 3: here's a photo of the two of us together, and

613
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:09,800
Speaker 3: actually here's whenever you added me, and right, here's all

614
00:28:09,800 --> 00:28:13,160
Speaker 3: of our past communications, just so you all know, in terms.

615
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 4: Of my original tip, that they are in contact and

616
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:20,320
Speaker 4: that they had been contact previously. But he burned him

617
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 4: because he kind of had to, because at this point,

618
00:28:23,040 --> 00:28:24,800
Speaker 4: you've added it's a huge store. You have to you

619
00:28:24,800 --> 00:28:28,399
Speaker 4: have to burn the guy. Every exactly everything Goldberg has

620
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:33,240
Speaker 4: done since then affirms that original tip and that original idea,

621
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,840
Speaker 4: because he has done everything acount Yes, he burned Waltz,

622
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: but he's done everything he can to kind of divert

623
00:28:38,120 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 4: attention to Hegsath and and to not burn Waltz, right, Yeah,

624
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:44,320
Speaker 4: shows he feels guilty.

625
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 3: Lost Internet salutes to go and find a photo of Goldberg.

626
00:28:48,400 --> 00:28:50,400
Speaker 3: And if the guy says I've never met you before,

627
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 3: like that's just literally not true.

628
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,480
Speaker 1: I met you this time.

629
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:55,240
Speaker 6: I met him. Yeah.

630
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, he even said I met him before in the article.

631
00:28:57,800 --> 00:28:59,600
Speaker 4: And so for Walts to come out to say he didn't,

632
00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: it's like, yeah, just aggressively stupid, a liar.

633
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's just like the public record.

634
00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 3: And really, what they are betting on, and this might

635
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,840
Speaker 3: be a good bed, is that Maga and Trump are

636
00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 3: so stupid that they will allow their intelligence to be

637
00:29:15,400 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 3: insulted to own the Libs and the Atlantic.

638
00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:20,760
Speaker 1: The only people you're owning are yourselves.

639
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 6: Yeah.

640
00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:27,200
Speaker 3: Dave Portnoy over at barstool News or what no, barsool Sports,

641
00:29:27,240 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: not barstool News.

642
00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,160
Speaker 1: I guess it could Barstool Sports.

643
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 3: Dave Portinoy put out a video and he was like,

644
00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,280
Speaker 3: you know, guys, Mike Wallas gotta go.

645
00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:36,120
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

646
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:37,920
Speaker 11: I've seen a lot of people be like, oh, you're

647
00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 11: mad about this, but we had a president like Biden

648
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:43,160
Speaker 11: with dementia, with the nuclear codes. Yeah, that's exactly it.

649
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:44,400
Speaker 6: That's exactly it.

650
00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:48,440
Speaker 11: That wasn't right then and this isn't right now in

651
00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:49,680
Speaker 11: this new administration.

652
00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 5: You want to take accountability.

653
00:29:51,760 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 11: Trump. You may love Michael Waltz, you love Pete Heskiff,

654
00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:55,840
Speaker 11: you may.

655
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:56,520
Speaker 6: Love these guys.

656
00:29:57,000 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 5: Somebody has to go down to me. Is Michael Waltz.

657
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,920
Speaker 11: He's the one who added him to this conversation. But

658
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:06,080
Speaker 11: you can't have the top of the top security people

659
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,000
Speaker 11: in the United States with the most sensitive information in

660
00:30:10,040 --> 00:30:15,360
Speaker 11: the world, adding random editors of a magazine that hates

661
00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Speaker 11: Trump's guts to a group chat talking about an attack

662
00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 11: before it happens on a terrorist group.

663
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Speaker 5: You can't pooh poo it.

664
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Speaker 11: You can't downplay it. You have to sit up there

665
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 11: and be like, holy shit, this is a fuck up

666
00:30:30,480 --> 00:30:31,960
Speaker 11: of epic proportions.

667
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,080
Speaker 5: There will be accountability.

668
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Speaker 11: I will get to the bottom of this, And frankly,

669
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Speaker 11: I think I don't like calling for people's heads.

670
00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:41,479
Speaker 5: Michael Waltz.

671
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Speaker 11: It seems like you're the guy who added him to

672
00:30:43,800 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 11: the group chat. You have to lose your job.

673
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,479
Speaker 1: Yeah, basic, basic stuff.

674
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 3: Yes, it literally says Michael Wallace added you to the

675
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Speaker 3: group chat.

676
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: There's no sucking in. It's over.

677
00:30:57,120 --> 00:30:59,240
Speaker 3: There was even there Now the current spin from MAGA

678
00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 3: is him his deputies added him.

679
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:03,880
Speaker 1: Guess what they literally said, No, the deputy didn't add him.

680
00:31:03,920 --> 00:31:04,479
Speaker 6: I added him.

681
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 3: Okay, So I mean the only way maybe that you

682
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 3: could get around it is my deputy sent me the

683
00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:14,640
Speaker 3: guy's contact and that's how the number got sucked into.

684
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:15,240
Speaker 5: MICD, not even trying.

685
00:31:15,280 --> 00:31:17,960
Speaker 3: But even if you did that, then fire the deputy.

686
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 3: Why are we standing by this? Do you do you

687
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 3: know who his deputy is?

688
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:21,040
Speaker 1: Because I do.

689
00:31:21,280 --> 00:31:23,800
Speaker 3: Alex Wang, Alex Wang been around this town for a

690
00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 3: long time, all right, Alex.

691
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 4: Wang, Lords Cotton, Lord lewis coming after Alex as you should.

692
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, great, Thank you Laura for your service.

693
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,600
Speaker 3: Alex Wang were for Tom Cotton, unreconstructed Neocon one hundred percent,

694
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 3: probably been leaking to Jeffrey goldbersus he came to Washington.

695
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:42,400
Speaker 3: This guy is a complete like just blob individual. You know,

696
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:44,960
Speaker 3: not a surprise that Michael Wallace hired him. Those of

697
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,040
Speaker 3: us who track insider personnel been tracking this guy for

698
00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 3: a long time. But that's another thing, you know, for Wallace,

699
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 3: why are you protecting this guy?

700
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:51,719
Speaker 11: Then?

701
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:54,000
Speaker 3: If it's not his fault, my only then I can

702
00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,240
Speaker 3: only surmise it's not his fault, it's your fault. Yeah,

703
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,720
Speaker 3: it's like there's the only ray that this all went down.

704
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:03,800
Speaker 3: And yeah, Trump, for some reason again wants this to

705
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 3: be the number one story that is surrounding him. I mean,

706
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:09,280
Speaker 3: I thought he was on better ground. Let's just look again.

707
00:32:09,400 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 3: We could debate merits and all that stuff all day long,

708
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:15,600
Speaker 3: even if you disagree on the deportations thing, and Glenden

709
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,320
Speaker 3: mostly convinced me that there were serious screw ups there.

710
00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:23,320
Speaker 3: That's a better That is a much better news cycle

711
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:24,320
Speaker 3: for Donald Trump.

712
00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: Immigration is his number one issue right now, number one.

713
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: Every single other issue is mostly underwater according to a

714
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 3: lot of these tracking polls on issues.

715
00:32:31,640 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 6: Now.

716
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: Sure caveats and all that stuff, etc. But that's where

717
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,680
Speaker 3: I want to be fighting my incompetence on a group

718
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 3: chat joke.

719
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: That's not where we want to be.

720
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 4: Underneath that is you're bombing Yemen because you failed to

721
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,720
Speaker 4: end the Bengal War Israel, which has the White House

722
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,360
Speaker 4: having to respond to Portnoy.

723
00:32:49,440 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 5: That's whatever. Whenever Portnoy is.

724
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 4: Being used against Caroline Levitt in the press room, you're losing.

725
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 4: So let's roll that real a clip because it was

726
00:32:58,160 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 4: just kind of funny.

727
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 3: That's right, he just cleared by who's investigating, who's leading that?

728
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 4: And also Dave Portnoy, who endorsed President Trump, said today

729
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:10,200
Speaker 4: that he thinks that Mike Waltz should leave.

730
00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 5: Could you response to that?

731
00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:12,920
Speaker 6: Sure?

732
00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:16,600
Speaker 8: Great respect for Dave Portnoy, but I just answered that

733
00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 8: previous question from Jennifer. As for your original question about

734
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 8: who's leading looking into the messaging thread, the National Security Council,

735
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:28,560
Speaker 8: the White House Counsel's Office, and also yes, Elon Musk's team.

736
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:31,560
Speaker 8: Elon Musk has offered to put his technical experts on

737
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 8: this to figure out how this number was inadvertently added

738
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 8: to the chat again, to take responsibility and ensure this

739
00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 8: can never happen again.

740
00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,480
Speaker 4: Got all the greatest minds, Got all the greatest minds

741
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,240
Speaker 4: trying to figure this out.

742
00:33:42,280 --> 00:33:43,280
Speaker 5: Don't worry Portant.

743
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:47,920
Speaker 1: Technical expert Ryan is too much man.

744
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,080
Speaker 5: So Tulsi who handled herself.

745
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 4: Okay, you know some lying two days ago was brought

746
00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:57,400
Speaker 4: back to the Hill. Let's roll some Tulsi from yesterday.

747
00:33:57,440 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 4: Because this is they're just still taking the.

748
00:34:00,160 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: They are just going to take this is every time

749
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
Speaker 3: he tests fied for Congress, you're going to be forced

750
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 3: to sit there and eat l after l after.

751
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 1: There's no defending it. And watch, let's take a listen.

752
00:34:10,640 --> 00:34:13,839
Speaker 12: The time mister Whitcoff was actually in Russia during this

753
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 12: chat discussion? Was he not?

754
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 5: I was not aware of that.

755
00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:23,080
Speaker 12: Was he on his personal phone at the time? I

756
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:26,560
Speaker 12: don't know what's my understanding that he was indeed in Russia?

757
00:34:26,719 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 12: Director Dabberd. You were also traveling during this discussion, correct, yes?

758
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:31,960
Speaker 5: And where were you?

759
00:34:33,880 --> 00:34:36,879
Speaker 1: I was traveling through the Asia Pacific region. I don't

760
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:39,279
Speaker 1: recall which country I was in at that time. You

761
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:41,120
Speaker 1: don't remember the country.

762
00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 5: I'd have to go back and look at this schedule

763
00:34:44,239 --> 00:34:46,560
Speaker 5: we do. By the way, I have news.

764
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,520
Speaker 4: According to Whitcoff, yeah, he did not bring his phone,

765
00:34:49,719 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 4: so okay, good, Yeah, no, but.

766
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: Actually there's two things there were going on there. He goes,

767
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,920
Speaker 3: you guys, you idiots. You said that this was on

768
00:34:56,920 --> 00:34:58,799
Speaker 3: my personal phone. I don't even have my personal phone

769
00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:00,920
Speaker 3: in Russia. And you're like, okay, but you did just

770
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,120
Speaker 3: confirm this was on your personal phone. Man, you know,

771
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 3: you just admitted that this is your personal phone. We're

772
00:35:06,400 --> 00:35:08,839
Speaker 3: not supposed to do that in terms of in terms

773
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 3: of the official government record.

774
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 4: They can penetrate your phone while it's sitting on your bedside.

775
00:35:13,400 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: And not to be annoying Ryan, because I do understand

776
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,719
Speaker 3: where people are going to take this the wrong way

777
00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 3: and be like, oh, are you asking for more inefficiency.

778
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:22,080
Speaker 3: I'd be fine if they use signal, but you do

779
00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 3: need to preserve these records. The reason why you preserve

780
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,440
Speaker 3: it is because there might be, let's say, a plot

781
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,560
Speaker 3: to assassinate the President of the United States that's never

782
00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:33,960
Speaker 3: happened before, and then maybe a guy named Jefferson Morley

783
00:35:34,200 --> 00:35:36,600
Speaker 3: sixty years from now needs to get to the bottom

784
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 3: of said stuff and literally doesn't have access.

785
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:41,000
Speaker 1: You know.

786
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:46,000
Speaker 3: Some of my favorite books are the reconstructions of very

787
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:50,000
Speaker 3: like difficult policy periods. So, for example, the decision to

788
00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:55,160
Speaker 3: oil embargo Japan. It is so useful to go back

789
00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:59,319
Speaker 3: and to read the internal discussion Cordell Hall said this

790
00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 3: and a memorial and you could see the cables you

791
00:36:02,320 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 3: had our ambassador being like, don't do it. This is

792
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,200
Speaker 3: going to lead to this Roosevelt the minim it's in

793
00:36:07,280 --> 00:36:08,200
Speaker 3: the Oval office.

794
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,839
Speaker 1: You can literally watch it all happen in slow motion.

795
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:11,439
Speaker 1: Same thing.

796
00:36:11,680 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 3: Another one of my favorite books is called It's Like

797
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 3: This No it's the best and the brightest David Halberstam

798
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,320
Speaker 3: and specifically a reconstruction of the US decision to escalate

799
00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 3: into Vietnam. Same thing reading the cables, McGeorge Bundy, Robert McNamara.

800
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,799
Speaker 3: This stuff matters, Like, you know, I understand why the

801
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,080
Speaker 3: people in charge may not want it to be preserved,

802
00:36:31,160 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 3: but for historical purposes, this is actually important.

803
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: Someday some naval historian out there is.

804
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,440
Speaker 3: Going to write about the ability of the Hoothi's a

805
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,000
Speaker 3: non state actor with limited technology to fully blockade the

806
00:36:43,120 --> 00:36:45,720
Speaker 3: entire red scene for the for the global empire.

807
00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 1: That's a remarkable event.

808
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 4: No, right, you know, yeah, and they're gonna have to

809
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: rely on like Fox news clips, right, We're gonna.

810
00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 3: On tweets and news clips and not be able to

811
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:55,279
Speaker 3: look back on it. And what I'm just saying is

812
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,040
Speaker 3: not just a norm, it's actually the law. Like you're

813
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: supposed to have a restless preservation and for reason to

814
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:03,719
Speaker 3: be able to go back and for historical purposes and

815
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 3: for subpoena and to make sure that the laws followed.

816
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,280
Speaker 3: And you know, just they're making a mockery not only

817
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 3: of that, but really again, I just keep coming back

818
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,280
Speaker 3: to all of our intelligence. So same thing here, Director

819
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:21,000
Speaker 3: Ratcliffe from the CIA and Chelsea Gabbard still getting pressed

820
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:22,279
Speaker 3: and they just have nothing to say.

821
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:23,080
Speaker 1: Let's take a listen.

822
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 7: Did this conversation at some point include information on weapons packages,

823
00:37:29,360 --> 00:37:31,120
Speaker 7: targets or timing.

824
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:40,400
Speaker 1: Not that I'm aware of, Director Gabbard, same question, same answer,

825
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:43,360
Speaker 1: and defer to the Department of Defense on that question.

826
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,919
Speaker 7: Well that those are two different answers. But you're saying

827
00:37:47,960 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 7: that that was not part of the conversation. Knowledge precise

828
00:37:51,800 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 7: operational issues were not part of this conversation, correct.

829
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 3: So that was previously and they said precise operations were

830
00:37:58,120 --> 00:38:00,480
Speaker 3: not included there. We showed you all the messages, like,

831
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 3: it's pretty obvious, Director of Ratcliffe for the CIA, not

832
00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:04,480
Speaker 3: that I'm aware of.

833
00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:06,319
Speaker 1: What are you aware of? Then you're not aware of.

834
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:08,440
Speaker 4: Of your own group chat? I mean, what's happening. I

835
00:38:08,480 --> 00:38:10,279
Speaker 4: don't read every message in every group chat, but that

836
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 4: they do on.

837
00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's probably out of all the messages in

838
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,360
Speaker 3: that chat, that's only what I'm reading, right, That's the

839
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:17,040
Speaker 3: one that I'm.

840
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:17,640
Speaker 1: Like, okay, got it.

841
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,799
Speaker 3: Paying an attention and you know, maybe you would want

842
00:38:19,840 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 3: to scroll back in your phone and look at it.

843
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:26,759
Speaker 3: Look I just again, they are continuing this of their own,

844
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:30,560
Speaker 3: making the easiest thing to do. Immediately after Mike Wallas,

845
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 3: we appreciate your service that Susie Wilds calls him up

846
00:38:33,840 --> 00:38:37,760
Speaker 3: and says, Mike, listen, man, we all all made mistakes.

847
00:38:37,880 --> 00:38:39,680
Speaker 3: You added a journalist, you added a journalist.

848
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,919
Speaker 1: The president needs his resignation letter on his desk right now.

849
00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:45,359
Speaker 3: We got to go. We'll see what we wish, see

850
00:38:45,360 --> 00:38:47,400
Speaker 3: the best, and then you move on, and everyone moves on.

851
00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 3: Everyone Okay, Yeah, it's really dumb mistake. Yeah, there might

852
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:54,279
Speaker 3: be one or two things, but instead it's a you know,

853
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,799
Speaker 3: one day thing now becomes a one week thing that

854
00:38:56,800 --> 00:38:59,320
Speaker 3: we've been covering this. I guarantee you the fallout and

855
00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 3: all this is going to continue. Every Republican in Congress

856
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 3: is gonna get asked about this. Every Republican or every

857
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 3: member of the Trump cabinet, you're gonna be pressed about that.

858
00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:09,400
Speaker 3: They're not even going to be able to do a

859
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,799
Speaker 3: press conference now forever. I mean Trump. Every single quote.

860
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,520
Speaker 3: I watched the entire White House press briefing room. Nine

861
00:39:15,600 --> 00:39:18,120
Speaker 3: out of eleven questions were about this signal chat. And

862
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,040
Speaker 3: she was like, is this all that you guys have

863
00:39:20,120 --> 00:39:23,280
Speaker 3: to ask about? And it's like yeah, because you're lying

864
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,479
Speaker 3: and you're just keep saying stupid shit, Like we're gonna

865
00:39:26,520 --> 00:39:30,000
Speaker 3: have our technical experts look into this.

866
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:31,280
Speaker 1: This is not going away.

867
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,000
Speaker 4: And the press loves when an official says a thing

868
00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:38,359
Speaker 4: that can be verified and you can verify that it's

869
00:39:38,400 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 4: not true, like they love that.

870
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter what it is.

871
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,800
Speaker 3: Right and well, and you know, I think the public

872
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:47,960
Speaker 3: loves it too. Like I said, there's something about the story.

873
00:39:48,160 --> 00:39:51,319
Speaker 3: It has penetrated the zeitgeist. People are loving it, they're

874
00:39:51,360 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 3: eating it up. The memes are everywhere.

875
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,600
Speaker 5: Stupid.

876
00:39:54,719 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's the sheer stupidity of it. And then if

877
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:01,720
Speaker 3: we pair that at a major pull out level. What again,

878
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,600
Speaker 3: If I'm the government, what do I want my narrative

879
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:08,359
Speaker 3: to be. I want it to be about tariffs. I

880
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,120
Speaker 3: want it to be about immigrate, about the auto that's right,

881
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,840
Speaker 3: auto tariffs and more. We haven't decided to put in

882
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,480
Speaker 3: the show because it's actually kind of unclear what exactly

883
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: they are, and I want to see the actual effect

884
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 3: as they go in, just in terms of the whether

885
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 3: it applies to just finish cars or not.

886
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 1: So we'll probably cover it on Monday.

887
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:29,560
Speaker 3: But the point is that you want like news about

888
00:40:29,600 --> 00:40:32,720
Speaker 3: things that you're doing to be the thing. And so again,

889
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:34,680
Speaker 3: like I said, even on the deportations, Look, we can

890
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,160
Speaker 3: argue about due process and all that stuff all day long.

891
00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:38,920
Speaker 3: At the end of the day, this stuff is pretty popular,

892
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 3: you know, in terms of deportation.

893
00:40:40,760 --> 00:40:41,600
Speaker 5: We'll acknowledge that.

894
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's popular.

895
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:42,960
Speaker 11: Like that.

896
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 3: That's what the ground that I want to be fighting on.

897
00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,919
Speaker 3: Just today there was some MS thirteen operations.

898
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:48,719
Speaker 1: Same thing.

899
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,879
Speaker 3: That's what you want the news to be about. Now

900
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 3: they can say, oh, it's your fault because you're not

901
00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:54,879
Speaker 3: covering it. It's like, no, no, no, no, you're the people

902
00:40:54,880 --> 00:40:58,160
Speaker 3: who made a colossal national security mistake, and you refuse

903
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,319
Speaker 3: to fire the guy and then be clown yourself elf

904
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:03,759
Speaker 3: for you know, a seventy two hour period by attacking

905
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 3: the people who reported it as opposed to the people

906
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 3: who were responsible for it. You deserve everything that's coming

907
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 3: your way. So what this is the clown show? This

908
00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: is the car clown show. That reminds me just of

909
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 3: twenty and seventeen, except then I think Trump would have

910
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 3: had the good sense to actually fire him.

911
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:21,719
Speaker 1: I mean Skaramuchi was fired after what thirteen days?

912
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:24,320
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they're accidentally buttressing the credibility of the Atlantic

913
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 4: and Jeffy.

914
00:41:24,719 --> 00:41:26,759
Speaker 5: Gould, Right, I know, people be like, oh, maybe that

915
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 5: wasn't a hoax. Isn't that the worst losers thing?

916
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 3: Isn't that the worst part? That The Atlantic has been

917
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,480
Speaker 3: getting a bunch more subscribers.

918
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,640
Speaker 1: It's like, guys, why do you do this? Yeah, they

919
00:41:36,360 --> 00:41:39,320
Speaker 1: need each other. They were failing. They literally would go

920
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,839
Speaker 1: on their road to bankruptcy before.

921
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,600
Speaker 3: All of this, and now you just gave them the

922
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: number one story in the world. It drove a ton

923
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 3: of subscriptions. I bet you they printed millions just.

924
00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 5: Off of this. Don't Bezis' wife, No.

925
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 3: Loreene Powell Jobs even worse Steve Jobs. Steve Jobs's widow

926
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 3: is the person who is bankrupt. They were going to

927
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 3: be Okay, Yeah, they're always key fun, but yeah, why

928
00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:03,120
Speaker 3: they even pretend to need to make money is always

929
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 3: like a whole lot of That's a difficult and different conversation.

930
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,759
Speaker 4: In a special election for state Senate in Pennsylvania, Democrats

931
00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:19,279
Speaker 4: flipped a deep red Republican district. James Malone ended up

932
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 4: defeating the Republican candidate by just a few hundred votes.

933
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 4: On the other hand, you only have a few thousand

934
00:42:27,560 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 4: people that end up voting in these races. This is

935
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,160
Speaker 4: Lancaster County, the suburbs outside of Lancaster and the more

936
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:37,520
Speaker 4: rural areas there. Trump had won it by something like

937
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 4: fifteen points. Let's roll a little bit of James Malone,

938
00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,440
Speaker 4: very Lancaster man winning this seat.

939
00:42:44,920 --> 00:42:49,600
Speaker 12: There is no safe seat, or there's no place that

940
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:51,840
Speaker 12: is not available to run.

941
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:56,720
Speaker 3: Hours after polls closed across northern Lancaster County, Democrat James

942
00:42:56,760 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 3: Malone was projected the winner of tuesday special election.

943
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:03,319
Speaker 4: You can certainly imagine that guy being a good time

944
00:43:03,360 --> 00:43:06,040
Speaker 4: at the tailgate ahead of the Birds game, can you not?

945
00:43:06,120 --> 00:43:07,239
Speaker 5: Saga? And apparently so.

946
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 4: He was running against the chairman of the County Langaster

947
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:14,440
Speaker 4: count Commission, who obviously is a high profile guy in

948
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 4: the area but not terribly well liked. Elon Musk had

949
00:43:18,920 --> 00:43:22,000
Speaker 4: invested some energy in this race. You know, he had

950
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:25,520
Speaker 4: you know, a bunch of paid voters throughout the state

951
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 4: in his database, after you know, offering you know, one

952
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,719
Speaker 4: hundred bucks to anybody that would sign his petition and

953
00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,400
Speaker 4: then then go out and vote against the law, by

954
00:43:33,440 --> 00:43:33,680
Speaker 4: the way.

955
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:34,200
Speaker 5: But you know.

956
00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:39,720
Speaker 3: This is so significant is not just the Trump margin

957
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 3: but the registration advantage. So one of the things that

958
00:43:43,120 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 3: was a canary in the coal mine ahead of the

959
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,600
Speaker 3: election was the crazy registration numbers coming out of Bucks

960
00:43:49,680 --> 00:43:52,480
Speaker 3: County and a few other places. Is something that Scott Pressler,

961
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,759
Speaker 3: who's one of those Republican activists, really bragged about about

962
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,600
Speaker 3: the ability to have registered Republicans, and that registration figure

963
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 3: ended up being obviously a canary in terms of the

964
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 3: Republican advantage in the state of Pennsylvania, and actually the

965
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 3: flipping of some of these districts that previously.

966
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 1: Had gone for Biden and went to Trump.

967
00:44:09,560 --> 00:44:11,920
Speaker 3: So the reason why this is significant is that in

968
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 3: this county, the Republicans actually held a huge registration advantage.

969
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,239
Speaker 3: Now the seat opens up because the person who held

970
00:44:19,280 --> 00:44:21,719
Speaker 3: it left to go work for Dave McCormick. That's the

971
00:44:21,760 --> 00:44:25,759
Speaker 3: currently the Republican in the United States Senate for this

972
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:29,440
Speaker 3: state of Pennsylvania. But the Democrat has not won this

973
00:44:29,520 --> 00:44:32,880
Speaker 3: seat since nineteen seventy nine, so.

974
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 4: Like eighteen yeah, so look eighteen seventy nine, Oh, it

975
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 4: was really yeah, have post reconstruction, big deal, Tawi.

976
00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:43,319
Speaker 3: And the reason why it all matters is that in

977
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,560
Speaker 3: Pennsylvania they're all doing post Trump analysis.

978
00:44:47,600 --> 00:44:49,239
Speaker 1: What do we even do now?

979
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:53,640
Speaker 3: Josh Shapiro recorded a robo call that went to all

980
00:44:53,719 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 3: of the people in the district. Remember Shapiro dramatically more

981
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:59,760
Speaker 3: popular than any other Democrat, like in the entire state.

982
00:45:00,360 --> 00:45:03,439
Speaker 3: What is your thirteen percent approval of margin or something

983
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:03,640
Speaker 3: like that.

984
00:45:03,680 --> 00:45:04,160
Speaker 1: It's crazy.

985
00:45:04,200 --> 00:45:06,239
Speaker 3: It might even repubably be nineteen You're right, it might

986
00:45:06,239 --> 00:45:08,720
Speaker 3: honestly even be higher now here.

987
00:45:08,600 --> 00:45:09,040
Speaker 1: We see it.

988
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,520
Speaker 5: I mean, you might be right, nineteen seventy nine.

989
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:14,200
Speaker 4: Oh okay, all right, but that's yeah, that's as democratic

990
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,280
Speaker 4: district back regardles.

991
00:45:15,680 --> 00:45:16,879
Speaker 5: It doesn't matter a long time.

992
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,920
Speaker 3: It's been a while. Eighteen their nineteen seventy nine, same thing,

993
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,879
Speaker 3: same day. Let's just consider that what we see here

994
00:45:25,239 --> 00:45:27,840
Speaker 3: is a blessing and a curse for the Democrats. The

995
00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:30,799
Speaker 3: blessing is this, before the election of twenty twenty four,

996
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:33,920
Speaker 3: these Libs who are registered and want to vote in

997
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,520
Speaker 3: low turnout elections.

998
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:36,239
Speaker 1: They are ready to roll.

999
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 3: They're ready to you know, put up their signs and

1000
00:45:38,760 --> 00:45:41,840
Speaker 3: they're ready to vote, and they're ready to donate and

1001
00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:45,280
Speaker 3: to get activated that's the midterm advantage, same thing reason

1002
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 3: why we saw big midterm game there for the Democrat.

1003
00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 3: The problem is is that in a high turnout election

1004
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: with very low propensity, people people who have no idea

1005
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 3: what the State Senate even is, which you know, I

1006
00:45:55,080 --> 00:45:57,400
Speaker 3: get it, if you're just living your life, you're like,

1007
00:45:57,400 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 3: what is the State Senate? You mean the United States Senate.

1008
00:46:00,680 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 3: For those folks, they are dramatically more pro Trump this

1009
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 3: time around. So we don't want to read too much

1010
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 3: into this, but it's still obviously very important, especially for

1011
00:46:10,640 --> 00:46:14,919
Speaker 3: the midterms because midterms is usually lower turnout, which means

1012
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,360
Speaker 3: that the more dedicated people come out. And you just

1013
00:46:17,400 --> 00:46:20,439
Speaker 3: can't look back at the Obama presidency and not say

1014
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:23,880
Speaker 3: that twenty ten genuinely did change everything.

1015
00:46:23,719 --> 00:46:25,880
Speaker 5: Right because they're the makeup. They were winning special elections

1016
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:26,680
Speaker 5: and nonne.

1017
00:46:26,400 --> 00:46:27,879
Speaker 1: Exactly, they were blowing it out.

1018
00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:28,000
Speaker 6: No.

1019
00:46:28,120 --> 00:46:28,359
Speaker 1: Nine.

1020
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,920
Speaker 3: You could see all the tea party stuff, all the

1021
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,080
Speaker 3: script was right there for those of us who are watching.

1022
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,439
Speaker 4: And Lancaster is a particularly well organized area for the left.

1023
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:39,759
Speaker 4: There's a group called Lancaster Stands Up that I've written

1024
00:46:39,800 --> 00:46:42,800
Speaker 4: about in the past, going back to like twenty eighteen,

1025
00:46:42,840 --> 00:46:44,799
Speaker 4: they've been doing a lot of grassroots organizing and door

1026
00:46:44,880 --> 00:46:50,359
Speaker 4: knocking and building up their local capacity, and so they

1027
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: might be slightly better positioned even in a.

1028
00:46:53,920 --> 00:46:56,000
Speaker 5: Special election than in general.

1029
00:46:56,080 --> 00:46:58,520
Speaker 4: But Democrats are looking at this and what you saw

1030
00:46:58,680 --> 00:47:01,520
Speaker 4: from a lot of them was okay, Now onto Wisconsin.

1031
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: Yes, let's talk about that. Can you break that down here?

1032
00:47:04,239 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 4: So Wisconsin, there's a Supreme Court race coming up between

1033
00:47:08,360 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 4: the liberal is or the Democrat. It's a non partisan race.

1034
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,880
Speaker 4: Susan Crawford on on that side, and Brad Shimmel is

1035
00:47:18,920 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 4: the county judge, former Republican state attorney general. So even

1036
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,840
Speaker 4: though it is a non partisan race, everybody knows, everybody

1037
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,839
Speaker 4: Wisconsin knows. If you're a Democrat, you want Crawford, if

1038
00:47:29,880 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 4: you're probably want Shimmel. There are obviously major issues on

1039
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,560
Speaker 4: all that it will come to the Supreme Court, abortion rights,

1040
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,839
Speaker 4: but also you know, jerry mandering and election laws. That's

1041
00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:45,040
Speaker 4: that's what matters on the kount of national level, because Wisconsin,

1042
00:47:45,080 --> 00:47:48,000
Speaker 4: of course will continue to be a battleground state.

1043
00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:49,239
Speaker 5: Elon Musk has.

1044
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:51,400
Speaker 4: His groups have put in He has put in something

1045
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:52,799
Speaker 4: like seventeen million.

1046
00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:55,439
Speaker 5: Dollars so far. It's like the most that.

1047
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,920
Speaker 4: There's been for a Supreme Court campaign already. It was

1048
00:48:00,440 --> 00:48:04,719
Speaker 4: April first, So this coming Tuesday, this election, Emily will

1049
00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:11,240
Speaker 4: be there on the ground for the election. Wisconsin Native Democrats,

1050
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:14,160
Speaker 4: you know, they have money, they're you know, they're obviously

1051
00:48:14,640 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 4: can't keep up with you know, Tesla cash, but you

1052
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,839
Speaker 4: know they're they're not going to be They're not going

1053
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,640
Speaker 4: to be completely ignored and blanked off of the airwaves.

1054
00:48:25,239 --> 00:48:27,920
Speaker 5: Wisconsin is going to have a Supreme Court race every

1055
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,759
Speaker 5: year for the next six years or something.

1056
00:48:29,800 --> 00:48:32,719
Speaker 4: So we're going to potentially see a lot of why

1057
00:48:32,719 --> 00:48:34,239
Speaker 4: do they care so much though back and forth.

1058
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: Why do they care so much here about the state

1059
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 1: Supreme Court?

1060
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,839
Speaker 4: Because they because the geromandary cases which will influence whether

1061
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:44,200
Speaker 4: or not you know what you know the So the

1062
00:48:44,360 --> 00:48:47,400
Speaker 4: Republicans when they took control in twenty ten of the

1063
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 4: state drew redrew the boundaries for the local, for the

1064
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 4: state legislature and also for the federal one, so that

1065
00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,239
Speaker 4: the House delegation has been imbalanced. Despite it being people

1066
00:49:00,280 --> 00:49:01,960
Speaker 4: can look it up now, but despite it being a

1067
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 4: fifty to fifty state, far more Republicans getting sent to Washington.

1068
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:07,960
Speaker 5: So if you if you can chip away at that.

1069
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,320
Speaker 4: When you only have a three state deficit in the House,

1070
00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:16,640
Speaker 4: it's important to move from there to retake control of

1071
00:49:16,640 --> 00:49:20,280
Speaker 4: the House for Democrats. And then the Supreme Court decides

1072
00:49:20,719 --> 00:49:23,640
Speaker 4: when you can vote, what the mail what the male

1073
00:49:23,760 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 4: voting rules are, what the what the what the rules

1074
00:49:26,520 --> 00:49:27,520
Speaker 4: are around counting.

1075
00:49:27,840 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 5: You just had this.

1076
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:34,440
Speaker 4: Executive order from Trump yesterday trying to kind of take

1077
00:49:34,480 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 4: federal control of elections. It won't work because federal government

1078
00:49:38,520 --> 00:49:43,000
Speaker 4: doesn't really have that level of control, especially without congressional action.

1079
00:49:44,120 --> 00:49:46,400
Speaker 4: He tried to put in something in place that says,

1080
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:49,440
Speaker 4: you know, ballots that come in after election day, which

1081
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:51,800
Speaker 4: are mostly military ballots, you know, can't be counted.

1082
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:54,239
Speaker 5: But that so that's the.

1083
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:58,800
Speaker 4: Battleground and and the and the battleground is the Wisconsin

1084
00:49:58,920 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 4: Supreme Court got it. It's when Pennsylvania flipped its Supreme

1085
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:09,839
Speaker 4: Court in twenty seventeen twenty eighteen. Republicans see that as

1086
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:13,440
Speaker 4: a key reason that they lost Pennsylvania in twenty twenty

1087
00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 4: because then the court opened up, you know, did redistricting

1088
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:20,239
Speaker 4: and open and opened up mail voting. That's in a

1089
00:50:20,280 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 4: way that the Trump team thought was you know, fraudulent

1090
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:26,560
Speaker 4: and unfair and illegal in all those.

1091
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:29,600
Speaker 1: States because they probably would. Whatever'll get into that.

1092
00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:32,280
Speaker 3: It's like, yeah, you just happened to win the presidency

1093
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,640
Speaker 3: with lower propensity voters next time, but whatever.

1094
00:50:35,400 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 1: It doesn't need to go into that.

1095
00:50:37,080 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, as you said, this election, I was just looking

1096
00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 3: determines whether you have the four to three liberal control.

1097
00:50:43,239 --> 00:50:48,160
Speaker 3: So this literally will determine the flip them. So that's

1098
00:50:48,200 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 3: why it's so important. And then more so you actually

1099
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,160
Speaker 3: looking at some of the data. Pretty honestly, I've been

1100
00:50:54,160 --> 00:50:56,560
Speaker 3: pretty feeling pretty goody for I was a Democrat. Nearly

1101
00:50:56,640 --> 00:50:59,400
Speaker 3: forty eight percent more early ballots have been cast compared

1102
00:50:59,440 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 3: to the same point from two years ago.

1103
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:02,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I don't.

1104
00:51:02,080 --> 00:51:04,319
Speaker 4: Know if you only do so much intodies, right, and

1105
00:51:04,360 --> 00:51:06,080
Speaker 4: this is low perpendsy because if you're voting in the

1106
00:51:06,080 --> 00:51:10,520
Speaker 4: Supreme Court election, you care more than the average personalitics.

1107
00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:14,319
Speaker 3: Yeah, you have real like you're no offense, but you're weird,

1108
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:16,920
Speaker 3: you we care a lot of youscons you.

1109
00:51:16,920 --> 00:51:18,960
Speaker 5: Might end up getting a couple million people turn out.

1110
00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, so right now it is more than three hundred

1111
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,120
Speaker 3: and forty five thousand people have returned their ballots rather

1112
00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,360
Speaker 3: by mailer part that's crazy compared to two hundred and

1113
00:51:25,360 --> 00:51:27,680
Speaker 3: thirty three thousand at this point just two years ago.

1114
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:30,120
Speaker 3: What is even the voting population of Wisconsin. It can't

1115
00:51:30,120 --> 00:51:32,480
Speaker 3: be that many. So honestly, good for you guys. That's

1116
00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 3: that's pretty high voter participation. But I mean they're also

1117
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:39,880
Speaker 3: being bombarded with ads. Apparently more than eighty one million

1118
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:43,800
Speaker 3: dollars has been spent now on a state Supreme court race,

1119
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:46,680
Speaker 3: just to show you guys how important that is. So

1120
00:51:46,800 --> 00:51:49,560
Speaker 3: not just Elon who is moving in here, but you

1121
00:51:49,600 --> 00:51:52,000
Speaker 3: know this Susan Crawford, she apparently has raised more than

1122
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,160
Speaker 3: twenty five million dollars right now for the race over

1123
00:51:54,440 --> 00:51:57,680
Speaker 3: not to be they are actual, like she's got George

1124
00:51:57,680 --> 00:51:59,719
Speaker 3: Soros apparently going back backing her.

1125
00:52:00,280 --> 00:52:00,560
Speaker 1: JB.

1126
00:52:00,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 3: Pritzker, who has been doing some rallies and stuff. So

1127
00:52:04,680 --> 00:52:07,120
Speaker 3: they're blanketing the entire state. And like I said, it's

1128
00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:09,080
Speaker 3: not that big of a state, so you easily could

1129
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:12,200
Speaker 3: reach you know, a lot of people.

1130
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:16,680
Speaker 1: With this amount of overall media attention. So super interesting.

1131
00:52:16,840 --> 00:52:19,239
Speaker 3: Just you know, we're always looking for what does it

1132
00:52:19,280 --> 00:52:22,920
Speaker 3: mean all of this, especially for the midterms. Like usually,

1133
00:52:23,000 --> 00:52:24,760
Speaker 3: I think the rule here is that with the midterms,

1134
00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 3: these lower propensities, special elections and other things, you're gonna

1135
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:29,560
Speaker 3: have to really pay attention to them. It also goes

1136
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,920
Speaker 3: to it's a big test case of Elon because you know,

1137
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:35,480
Speaker 3: there's still a lot of question over how much influence

1138
00:52:35,520 --> 00:52:39,840
Speaker 3: Elon actually had on the Pennsylvania results, because you know,

1139
00:52:40,120 --> 00:52:41,960
Speaker 3: his people obviously want to be like, yeah, see our

1140
00:52:42,200 --> 00:52:44,719
Speaker 3: registration drive and all that. I'm not going to downplay it,

1141
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 3: but the fact is is that we saw a national trend.

1142
00:52:47,640 --> 00:52:50,600
Speaker 3: You know, you can only pay so many people or

1143
00:52:50,640 --> 00:52:53,960
Speaker 3: inspire them to come sign some registration and it would

1144
00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:58,799
Speaker 3: be it would be different if Pennsylvania dramatically outperformed the

1145
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:00,680
Speaker 3: rest of the country, but it kind of didn't. You know,

1146
00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:04,239
Speaker 3: the same low propensity figures. We're across the entire nation,

1147
00:53:04,280 --> 00:53:07,560
Speaker 3: from California to Texas, you know, to even here Virginia

1148
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:10,960
Speaker 3: the margins for Donald Trump. So you can see even

1149
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:13,640
Speaker 3: where Elon and his groups had in Virginia, they still

1150
00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:15,960
Speaker 3: had a huge run up in the overall tally, and

1151
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:19,000
Speaker 3: obviously Trump won the popular vote, so pretty important, right, yeah,

1152
00:53:19,440 --> 00:53:21,120
Speaker 3: keeping it all together, We're going to watch that, guys.

1153
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:23,640
Speaker 3: But the Democratic race, it certainly matters a lot, and

1154
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 3: Emily's gonna be on the ground solestually fun. We can

1155
00:53:25,640 --> 00:53:27,480
Speaker 3: get a on the ground report from her