WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Roots Picnic 2016 Part 1 0:00:00.480 --> 0:00:04.240 Course Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. This classic 0:00:04.280 --> 0:00:07.040 episode was produced by the team at Pandora. 0:00:13.800 --> 0:00:17.440 What y'all is, Laiya and this QLs classic is taking 0:00:17.520 --> 0:00:22.560 us back to October nineteen, twenty sixteen. Imagine it Ruth's Picnic, 0:00:22.880 --> 0:00:28.200 New York City. Two days well, myself and Team Supreme 0:00:28.240 --> 0:00:31.080 decided we would hold up in a hotel across the 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.680 street from the Ruth Picnic and interview as many of 0:00:33.720 --> 0:00:36.800 those artists as possible. Yeah, the first and the last 0:00:36.800 --> 0:00:39.400 time we did this, but check it out. This is 0:00:39.440 --> 0:00:43.919 the episode that features appearances from ex Ambassadors, Stretching, Barbido, 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:45.519 and Lady Leisure. 0:00:45.880 --> 0:00:46.800 It's a good one. 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:47.960 I hope you enjoy it. 0:00:52.720 --> 0:00:53.479 What's up, y'all? 0:00:53.560 --> 0:00:56.360 Welcome to a very special edition of Course Love Supreme 0:00:56.440 --> 0:01:00.000 once again. This is a road trip, well, non exactly 0:01:00.360 --> 0:01:03.920 a road trip. We're kind of up the block from 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:06.679 Bryant Park in New York City. I'll say that twenty 0:01:06.720 --> 0:01:09.960 years ago, when the Roots were first formed, we made 0:01:10.000 --> 0:01:13.280 and cut our teeth on the festival circuit, and festivals 0:01:13.280 --> 0:01:15.800 are like now a thing in America. Back in the 0:01:15.840 --> 0:01:18.720 early nineties, I was like really unheard of to have 0:01:18.760 --> 0:01:22.200 different genres together under one roof, like doing a festival. 0:01:22.840 --> 0:01:25.600 We always said that we had enough pool and of 0:01:25.640 --> 0:01:28.560 course enough finances, we were going to bring a festival 0:01:28.600 --> 0:01:30.959 to whatever city that we chose to do. And of course, 0:01:31.920 --> 0:01:33.440 I guess most of you guys are familiar with the 0:01:33.560 --> 0:01:39.000 Roots Picnic. That's our Philadelphia homegrown festival event. So this 0:01:39.120 --> 0:01:41.120 year we decided to take the Roots Picnic to Bryant 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:44.440 Park in New York City and entertained over twenty thousand 0:01:44.440 --> 0:01:48.080 people for two days. So many acts played the picnic. 0:01:48.760 --> 0:01:55.160 David Byrne, Wu Tang, Clan di'angelo, John Mayer, even Alicia Keys, 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:59.280 Dave Chappelle, Common of course the Roots performed as well. 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:04.800 We even Adnle, Rogers and Chic. That's a lot of lineup. Anyway, 0:02:04.840 --> 0:02:07.480 we recorded these special episodes of Quest Love Supreme live 0:02:07.560 --> 0:02:10.560 during the Roots Picnic. I was running around quite a 0:02:10.560 --> 0:02:13.400 bit too. I popped up in the show occasionally when 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:15.760 I had a minute, but I was basically rehearsing. But 0:02:15.760 --> 0:02:19.040 don't worry, the team Supreme held it down and they 0:02:19.120 --> 0:02:21.600 really did an amazing job running the show with my absence. 0:02:22.280 --> 0:02:25.680 That's right, we got Fante Boss Bill still there, unpaid 0:02:25.720 --> 0:02:28.560 bills there, Sugar, Steve is there, Lai is there, and 0:02:28.560 --> 0:02:31.520 a whole cast to others. This particular episode, you're gonna 0:02:31.520 --> 0:02:35.239 hear some really really great interviews with DJ Mohma who else. 0:02:35.280 --> 0:02:39.920 We got the ex Ambassadors to Shiman Chill Moody Smashing Hearts. 0:02:40.280 --> 0:02:42.880 We got the legendary New York hip hop radio DJ 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.920 Stretching Barbido, some of my favorites. I want to be 0:02:45.960 --> 0:02:48.359 them when I grow up, and all the way from 0:02:48.360 --> 0:02:51.360 the UK, we got Lady Lashure. I really hope you 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:53.359 enjoyed the show. This is part one of the Roots 0:02:53.400 --> 0:02:56.240 Picnic New York edition, Quest Love Supreme, Let's Go. 0:02:58.520 --> 0:02:59.200 Soma. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:06.080 Something supremo role called Suprema suck. Something Suprema role called 0:03:06.400 --> 0:03:11.320 Suprema son, something supremo role called Suprema So. 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:13.639 So Suprema role call. 0:03:13.800 --> 0:03:15.120 My name is Ponte. 0:03:15.320 --> 0:03:18.120 Yeah, but have no feel Yeah, I'm. 0:03:18.040 --> 0:03:24.000 Running this Yeah because quit say call Suprema so something 0:03:24.240 --> 0:03:30.600 Suprema roll call, Suprema So Suprema roll called bill. 0:03:31.160 --> 0:03:36.480 Yeah, y'all don't know. Yeah, Roots Picnic, Yeah, here we are. 0:03:39.160 --> 0:03:45.440 Son Son Supreme roll call, Suprema Supremo roll call. 0:03:47.040 --> 0:03:50.680 Yeah it is call Yeah, don't worry fellas. 0:03:51.080 --> 0:03:51.920 Yeah, because I. 0:03:54.120 --> 0:04:00.640 Suprema Son Son Supremo, role called Suprema So something Supremo 0:04:00.880 --> 0:04:01.560 role called. 0:04:01.640 --> 0:04:02.520 My name is Steve. 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.640 Yeah, I'm so tired. 0:04:05.000 --> 0:04:08.560 Yeah yet, Yeah, let's get high. 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:16.560 Roll call Supremo Sun Supremo. Roll call Suprema Sun Sun Supremo. 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:21.080 Role call hospital is here. Yeah, and I didn't prepare. Yeah, 0:04:21.240 --> 0:04:22.680 so I'm just gonna read the rest of this ad 0:04:22.760 --> 0:04:27.440 from a first large, one bedroom, time dollars, New York, 0:04:27.520 --> 0:04:28.800 New York, one zero zero three. 0:04:30.000 --> 0:04:32.960 Suprema Suck Sun Supremo role. 0:04:33.480 --> 0:04:37.120 My name is MoMA. Yeah, I'm a music man. Yeah, 0:04:37.400 --> 0:04:38.280 I'm African. 0:04:38.880 --> 0:04:40.400 Yeah, I represent Queens, New York. 0:04:40.560 --> 0:04:48.560 Name Supremo So Sun Supremo. Roll call Supremo So Sun Supremo. 0:04:48.800 --> 0:04:55.039 Roll call Suprema So Sun Supremo, roll call Supremo Suck 0:04:55.320 --> 0:04:57.320 Suck Supremo roll call. 0:05:00.520 --> 0:05:01.720 I was trying to do the last. 0:05:06.000 --> 0:05:13.760 Like the Jadakids last crazy for this one. It's how 0:05:13.800 --> 0:05:14.680 he got in Phasema. 0:05:15.320 --> 0:05:22.760 Welcome to quest Love Supreme, our faithful and righteous cult leader, 0:05:24.560 --> 0:05:27.480 our furor. Quest Love is not here today. He's a 0:05:27.520 --> 0:05:29.680 little busy. He's a little busy. He's a little busy 0:05:29.760 --> 0:05:30.839 actually doing his job. 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.000 Yeah, one of his jobs, of one of his nineteen jobs, 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:35.200 one of his jobs. 0:05:36.200 --> 0:05:39.080 He's actually working today on the roots picnic, so were 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.559 holding it down in his absence. I'm Fante fun Tika 0:05:43.680 --> 0:05:46.840 Newicticulo a k A Gully Blanche a k A hacks On, 0:05:46.960 --> 0:05:50.600 Jim Thu a k A Young Player, Underwood aka wood 0:05:50.640 --> 0:05:52.440 Fang Flowers ak that's. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:56.880 Enough aka album in stores, album in stores. 0:05:56.920 --> 0:05:59.760 I always got album in stores somewhere. Uh yeah, holding 0:05:59.800 --> 0:06:03.680 down fun Tickelow to my left is the lovely miss. 0:06:05.120 --> 0:06:07.120 I gonna do it to you because he, of course 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:11.040 love came up with a great nickname for you, Margaret louder. 0:06:13.120 --> 0:06:13.360 Loud. 0:06:13.440 --> 0:06:15.160 I don't know. Okay, that's fine, that's. 0:06:16.480 --> 0:06:18.080 I love you anyway. We love you, we love you, 0:06:18.200 --> 0:06:18.720 we love you. All. 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:20.840 Good to be here today, Hello fellas. 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:23.880 Yeah, also joining us. You know what I'm saying. 0:06:24.080 --> 0:06:27.719 My brother, my man's my millow, My man's unpaid Bill 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:30.960 Bill Sherman, who is although I just I just found 0:06:31.000 --> 0:06:32.760 out he is now paid. 0:06:33.040 --> 0:06:35.120 He found he found out be a text message. 0:06:37.400 --> 0:06:37.560 Track. 0:06:37.640 --> 0:06:41.200 Yet got it. He got a big da big day. 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:45.920 We got that PayPal notifications. So unpaid Bill Bill Sherman. 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:52.720 He's in the building direct deposit though, Sugar Steve like that, 0:06:53.040 --> 0:06:55.359 Sugar Steve, your hardest working Engindy and show business. How 0:06:55.480 --> 0:06:56.880 how many hours have you been up? 0:06:57.240 --> 0:06:59.440 Like completely all of them? I don't know. The last 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:01.760 last two nights. Have just gotten a couple of hours 0:07:01.800 --> 0:07:02.159 of sleep. 0:07:02.240 --> 0:07:04.440 So we're gonna get all into that. 0:07:04.920 --> 0:07:05.280 I wanted. 0:07:05.760 --> 0:07:08.880 You're a little delirious today every day. Yeah, a little 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:14.240 more than news. We get medicine. Go gethim. We won't 0:07:14.240 --> 0:07:15.520 call it we I don't think we can do that. 0:07:15.640 --> 0:07:18.320 Yeah, we're recording the show. 0:07:19.120 --> 0:07:23.120 Uh yeah, well we're we're I have many jobs like 0:07:23.200 --> 0:07:27.280 quest also listen, Yeah, go ahead. 0:07:27.320 --> 0:07:30.720 I work at the supervisor at McDonald's. 0:07:32.800 --> 0:07:37.480 You got promoted not watching Letus was le I was 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:38.240 watching Lettus. 0:07:38.480 --> 0:07:42.480 No, we're simultaneously recording the picnic multi truck recording of 0:07:42.560 --> 0:07:44.560 the Picnic, and we're set up at S A R 0:07:44.680 --> 0:07:46.640 for rehearsals over the next two days as well, and 0:07:46.720 --> 0:07:50.760 we're recording those. And we're recording these. So I got 0:07:50.840 --> 0:07:52.720 like three pro tools riggs all around town. 0:07:53.480 --> 0:07:57.360 Steve's busy. Steve is the fucking man doing much. I 0:07:57.440 --> 0:08:00.440 have an assistant's doing much that's what's I got to 0:08:00.440 --> 0:08:02.040 get to that level. I can get me an assistant. 0:08:04.360 --> 0:08:06.960 If it ain't now, I don't know when. 0:08:07.080 --> 0:08:07.440 I don't know. 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.280 I just I think I have a problem letting people 0:08:10.360 --> 0:08:13.080 in my life in that way. That just got really personal. 0:08:14.720 --> 0:08:17.480 Really at least you're not talking about, you know, writing 0:08:17.480 --> 0:08:18.240 stuff on the toilet. 0:08:18.320 --> 0:08:22.680 So what would you do within the system, Like, Man, 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:24.480 I don't know. I just because you gotta let you 0:08:24.560 --> 0:08:27.480 gotta really trust in your assistant. Like that's somebody they 0:08:27.560 --> 0:08:30.040 got the passwords of your ship. You know what I'm saying. 0:08:30.280 --> 0:08:32.040 If you got a side piece, they gotta. 0:08:31.880 --> 0:08:36.840 Know arrangements, arrangements, travel arrangements. 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.360 It's like, so yeah, man, I don't know. 0:08:39.480 --> 0:08:41.439 Man, that's just someone else in your life that you 0:08:41.640 --> 0:08:43.280 that could just write a book about you later on. 0:08:44.200 --> 0:08:46.720 I don't know if I trust that end up as 0:08:46.720 --> 0:08:48.880 a guest on question Love Supreme after you die, after 0:08:48.960 --> 0:08:49.480 you died, be. 0:08:49.559 --> 0:08:51.280 Like, yeah, was doing all the coke? 0:08:51.360 --> 0:08:54.760 Nigga? I don't want to. I can't. I can't funk 0:08:54.800 --> 0:08:55.559 with that ship. I don't know. 0:08:55.760 --> 0:08:57.760 So I don't I get through that. Maybe some counsel 0:08:57.800 --> 0:08:59.320 and all that I can get through that, But fuck 0:08:59.360 --> 0:09:04.079 my problem. The man we got right here, my man, 0:09:04.240 --> 0:09:07.320 right here, this brother. I will let him talk about himself, 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:11.280 but allow me to introduce uh this brother. He is 0:09:11.440 --> 0:09:15.480 the lead, the head DJ every Day People, every Day People, 0:09:16.040 --> 0:09:17.360 which is Chef ro Blade. 0:09:17.360 --> 0:09:23.360 That's chefro Black. Oh awesome party a How long has 0:09:23.400 --> 0:09:24.040 pretty been around? 0:09:24.960 --> 0:09:26.880 This is like the end of the fourth season? 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.920 Oh wow, okay, yeah, I was just funny. I was 0:09:29.960 --> 0:09:32.720 actually supposed to do one of them in Charlotte, right 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.679 I was. I ended up having to go. I think 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:37.480 we had a tour day or something, so I missed it. 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:39.640 I was like, damn, I missed it. But anyway, ladies 0:09:39.679 --> 0:09:42.920 and gentlemen, the man of the hour, the man with 0:09:43.040 --> 0:09:46.200 the plan, with the sound, all that flash it, ladies, 0:09:46.200 --> 0:09:51.400 gentlemen giving up a DJ moment. That's up, man, Thank 0:09:51.440 --> 0:09:52.800 you for doing this, man, Thank you for coming here 0:09:52.960 --> 0:09:54.560 and getting up early in the morning. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.839 This is early for like musician hours and ship so 0:09:57.360 --> 0:10:01.280 pretty much it's new. Yeah, noon is thirty. Yeah, that's 0:10:01.280 --> 0:10:02.120 still kind of early. 0:10:02.360 --> 0:10:04.480 I biked hair so I could wake up, Did you really? 0:10:04.800 --> 0:10:05.200 Oh shit? 0:10:05.280 --> 0:10:06.640 I live in the city though, so I'm not like 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:07.240 no hair. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.160 Biked over, but y'all, Wow, You've been doing a lot 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:14.760 of stuff this week, this past week, right because you 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:16.600 filled in for a quest feeling. 0:10:16.360 --> 0:10:19.439 For quests at Brooklyn Bowl and also did a closing 0:10:19.480 --> 0:10:22.920 event for Summer Stage with you Now Mone in Central Park. 0:10:23.200 --> 0:10:25.400 So it's been it's been a fun week, you know. 0:10:25.480 --> 0:10:27.280 And we got Roots Picnic tomorrow. 0:10:27.080 --> 0:10:29.360 Today, today, shoot today. 0:10:31.160 --> 0:10:34.080 Yeahs up, man, real, So tell me a little bit 0:10:34.120 --> 0:10:37.080 about your your style. Man, I was looking through your Unfortunately, 0:10:37.120 --> 0:10:38.800 like I said, I didn't get to come to the party, 0:10:38.880 --> 0:10:41.559 so I missed. I miss actually seeing you do your thing. 0:10:42.000 --> 0:10:44.199 But we had you send over just some tracks you 0:10:44.280 --> 0:10:45.720 know before, and I was just. 0:10:45.800 --> 0:10:46.600 Reading the tracks. 0:10:46.640 --> 0:10:48.800 I was like, Yo, this motherfucker is in my iTunes, 0:10:48.880 --> 0:10:51.480 like like some of the Jones just being like the 0:10:51.480 --> 0:10:56.560 Greg Reporter nineteen sixty but Donald bird Love has come around, 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.520 like just I was like, oh my god, Like this 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.319 dude is like me. 0:11:00.920 --> 0:11:03.960 Yeah, And I mean my style, you know, it covers 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:08.080 a lot from like really like esoteric mixtape radio show 0:11:08.160 --> 0:11:13.360 stuff to like more mainstream generic and you know, when 0:11:13.360 --> 0:11:15.440 I first started djaying, I was in a place where 0:11:16.080 --> 0:11:18.480 I was either in like in a bar in Brooklyn, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.120 playing like Roy Airs, Vinyl and Weldon Irving or whatever, 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.719 or I was in Manhattan playing like Britney Spears and 0:11:25.920 --> 0:11:29.240 justin Timberlating, and you know, obviously one of those two 0:11:29.360 --> 0:11:31.240 was a struggle for me, but I was getting it 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:33.199 done because it was a check and I think, you know, 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.920 after like twelve to thirteen years of djaying, I've been 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.920 able to kind of like reconcile everything in the middle 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.440 where I've just found that happy medium where in one 0:11:42.480 --> 0:11:45.000 of my parties you may hear like a soulful joint, 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:47.679 but you're probably you're also gonna hear Drake in the future. 0:11:48.000 --> 0:11:50.400 And I've been able to kind of like eliminate all 0:11:50.480 --> 0:11:53.280 like the real disposable pop shit, you know what I mean. 0:11:53.800 --> 0:11:56.280 So in terms of my style, I would say it's 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.280 basically like the best of black music that I love, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:04.120 you know, hip hop, R and B, Soca house. 0:12:07.040 --> 0:12:08.880 Comany. He's in New York, Oh way in New York. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:10.440 You got to yeah, you got to. 0:12:10.600 --> 0:12:13.160 Man said Africa, what part of what the are you're from? 0:12:13.400 --> 0:12:15.320 Part I'm from Sudan? Oh wow? Oh wow? 0:12:15.760 --> 0:12:16.360 So how does that? 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:17.080 How does I mean? 0:12:17.240 --> 0:12:19.400 Because most people don't know the musical influence of Sudan, 0:12:19.480 --> 0:12:21.320 Do you is it any do you ever play anything or. 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.280 You know, we don't have that big of a Sudanese 0:12:25.360 --> 0:12:27.440 community in New York, so if I were to drop 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.160 a track in my bomb, but I'm also like part 0:12:31.240 --> 0:12:33.920 ever trying and the whole like East African connects, so 0:12:33.960 --> 0:12:36.800 there's a lot of like Ethiopians and Era trains that 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:38.800 come through to my events. And so I got that 0:12:38.960 --> 0:12:41.679 music on deck, and when I do drop it, it's 0:12:41.720 --> 0:12:43.280 a riot. You know, you have people who are not 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:45.040 familiar with it, like what the hell is going on? 0:12:45.280 --> 0:12:47.760 But the ones that are form they lose their mind. Yeah, 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:48.480 totally got you. 0:12:48.679 --> 0:12:51.640 I mean I do that late night, not in the 0:12:51.679 --> 0:12:52.559 middle of prime time. 0:12:52.679 --> 0:12:55.560 So if it bombs, this is okay. Got my manly, 0:12:55.600 --> 0:12:58.080 I don't know if you're he's that's my homie, Okay. 0:12:58.559 --> 0:13:02.800 He's from Sudan as well. Odyssey UH producer EMCUH was 0:13:02.920 --> 0:13:05.559 based out of DC. I think he's here now. But incredible, 0:13:05.679 --> 0:13:10.240 incredible artists. Your start, Like what leads a person to 0:13:10.320 --> 0:13:12.959 want to be a DJ? Like what is the you 0:13:13.040 --> 0:13:15.000 know people have some people want to be MC, some 0:13:15.040 --> 0:13:17.480 people want to be producers. What is it that drove 0:13:17.559 --> 0:13:20.439 you to say I want to select the sounds for people. 0:13:22.200 --> 0:13:22.480 I don't know. 0:13:22.640 --> 0:13:24.480 I think it was maybe the easiest way for me 0:13:24.600 --> 0:13:27.920 to touch music, being that I just don't play instruments 0:13:28.000 --> 0:13:30.000 and I don't sing. When when I was in high 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:31.319 school in college, I used to rap. 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:33.280 You know you're being We all did. 0:13:33.400 --> 0:13:34.040 Yeah, you had your. 0:13:34.000 --> 0:13:37.199 Little you you did? You know I did not, I 0:13:37.280 --> 0:13:39.520 did not. Have you heard me rap before I have, 0:13:39.880 --> 0:13:43.800 but you just did it exactly. Everybody wrapped in high school, 0:13:43.920 --> 0:13:46.000 Like I mean, that was like a rite of passage. 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:46.439 I think, right. 0:13:46.760 --> 0:13:47.920 And I think. 0:13:49.280 --> 0:13:51.920 The Roots used to do something called black Lilies. Yeah, yeah, 0:13:52.600 --> 0:13:54.679 I even like I got on stage on that. It's 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:56.600 one of the MC's that went up during the open mic, 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:58.680 and that was like, that was my hip hop career, 0:13:58.800 --> 0:14:01.240 highlight of my life. I don't remember what year. This was, 0:14:01.559 --> 0:14:03.960 late nineties, early two thousands, you know, I don't recall, 0:14:04.400 --> 0:14:06.400 but around that time, you know, I became like really 0:14:06.480 --> 0:14:09.599 disenchanted with hip hop. It was super jiggy, and I 0:14:09.720 --> 0:14:11.040 just kind of fell out of love with it. So 0:14:11.440 --> 0:14:15.360 I started researching all the samples behind the music, and 0:14:15.400 --> 0:14:18.599 that's when I started collecting vinyl and you know, to 0:14:18.679 --> 0:14:21.200 go back to your question, I don't think a lot 0:14:21.240 --> 0:14:23.920 of us who started djaying in maybe late nineties or 0:14:24.080 --> 0:14:26.800 before that. I don't think anybody starts djaying with the 0:14:26.960 --> 0:14:29.600 goal of becoming a DJ. You just love music, you 0:14:29.720 --> 0:14:31.880 collect vinyl, and after a certain amount of time, you 0:14:31.960 --> 0:14:35.000 have enough music and you have enough experience that you 0:14:35.040 --> 0:14:37.520 could actually rock a party, which is kind of different 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:38.520 than the way it is today. 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.920 There was never anything where you said, Okay, I want 0:14:42.000 --> 0:14:43.880 to get paid for this. It was like you didn't 0:14:43.960 --> 0:14:45.720 start off with the intention of hay. 0:14:45.640 --> 0:14:48.240 Now, because I was working a full time job. You know, 0:14:48.280 --> 0:14:50.920 I went to college for electrical engineering, and so I 0:14:51.000 --> 0:14:52.840 came out of school. I was working a full time job, 0:14:52.880 --> 0:14:56.000 which I actually held for like, you know, over ten years, 0:14:56.760 --> 0:14:59.080 and I was doing both at the same time, you know, 0:14:59.200 --> 0:15:02.600 living in Manhattan, working in Manhattan, uh, DJing in Manhattan. 0:15:02.920 --> 0:15:06.400 So I never really have to worry about getting paid 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.000 for DJing. So I just kept like honing my skills 0:15:09.560 --> 0:15:12.440 and like refining my craft, and ultimately, you know, I 0:15:12.480 --> 0:15:14.560 became so good that I didn't have to work anymore. 0:15:14.720 --> 0:15:17.240 It's interesting you say that I had a talk with 0:15:17.320 --> 0:15:18.560 a friend of mine a couple of days ago. He 0:15:18.640 --> 0:15:20.240 was asking me about like, Okay, when do you make 0:15:20.280 --> 0:15:23.680 the leap from your hobby to your real from your 0:15:23.720 --> 0:15:24.400 real job. 0:15:24.280 --> 0:15:27.080 Your hobby to your jobby job hobby to your job. 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:31.440 And my, my, I said, almost verbating with listen, as 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:34.240 long as you got something that's paying you that steady check, 0:15:34.760 --> 0:15:35.520 stay with that ship. 0:15:35.680 --> 0:15:37.480 Don't walk away from that fucking check. The fuck is 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:37.880 wrong with you? 0:15:38.040 --> 0:15:40.720 Better get that money, get fired, you get that unemployment first. 0:15:41.160 --> 0:15:43.160 Yeah, because you never want after, just like you never 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:46.520 want desperation. A few of your artistic decisions, you know 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:48.160 what I'm saying. You can't focus on being a great 0:15:48.200 --> 0:15:49.800 DJ when you ain't got no fucking roof. 0:15:50.240 --> 0:15:53.360 So and that job can finance your craft if you 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.680 buy turntables, you want to buy pro tools, you want 0:15:55.720 --> 0:15:56.760 to buy mac you want to. 0:15:56.800 --> 0:15:58.000 Like getting. 0:15:59.680 --> 0:16:03.600 What so making that transition going from the jobby to 0:16:03.760 --> 0:16:07.560 the hobby, Like, what was that like? When did you know, like, Okay, 0:16:07.840 --> 0:16:11.160 officially I can do this full time and I'm good. 0:16:11.480 --> 0:16:12.280 What was that like for you? 0:16:14.000 --> 0:16:17.280 I just think it came at a point where I 0:16:17.680 --> 0:16:21.720 became feel miserable. This is like, honestly, I was going 0:16:21.840 --> 0:16:25.520 back and forth from the corporate life because I'm like 0:16:25.560 --> 0:16:27.680 you know what, I got enough money, I'm about to 0:16:27.760 --> 0:16:28.960 DJ and trial for a year or two. 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:30.240 Now I'm like, oh shit, I'm broke. 0:16:31.360 --> 0:16:33.560 We go back and I think the last time I 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:35.960 just like, you know, cut off the umbilical cord was 0:16:37.000 --> 0:16:37.720 twenty fourteen. 0:16:38.000 --> 0:16:39.880 Oh wow, yeah, so not that long ago. 0:16:40.960 --> 0:16:43.200 But I just started to feel miserable. There was such 0:16:43.200 --> 0:16:46.280 a huge difference between how I felt at the office 0:16:46.640 --> 0:16:48.680 and you know, I really like engineering. It's it's a 0:16:48.720 --> 0:16:51.680 great job. You're like really building things and it's problem 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:53.920 solving all day long. But I just start to feel 0:16:53.960 --> 0:16:56.240 miserable versus you know, the high that I would get 0:16:56.320 --> 0:16:58.800 when I'm out DJing, you know, doing day parties with 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:01.480 three hundre to my friends. I was like, all right, 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:04.919 I'm not at the point where I can make up 0:17:04.960 --> 0:17:08.680 that income, but I think having my time and my 0:17:08.760 --> 0:17:10.840 life back was probably worth like six figures to me 0:17:10.920 --> 0:17:12.600 at that point. So I was like, fuck it. I 0:17:12.680 --> 0:17:15.240 start from the bottom and build it back up. And 0:17:15.400 --> 0:17:17.840 you know, it happened pretty fast. That's dope, man, It's 0:17:17.880 --> 0:17:18.359 really dope. 0:17:18.400 --> 0:17:21.400 I'm sitting here with the Man of the Hour DJ 0:17:21.560 --> 0:17:25.119 MoMA everyday people uh were sitting here, So this is 0:17:25.240 --> 0:17:29.119 Rooth's Picnic, So I want to talk picnic stuff. What 0:17:29.600 --> 0:17:31.920 is when you got this gig? Like what was your 0:17:32.760 --> 0:17:35.840 what was your mind state in terms of saying it's 0:17:36.119 --> 0:17:37.960 like setting up your crate or your playlist or whatever, 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:42.040 Like what was what was that like for this kind 0:17:42.040 --> 0:17:43.960 of crowd? Like how would you rock this this kind 0:17:43.960 --> 0:17:44.320 of crowd? 0:17:45.520 --> 0:17:48.040 Well I had I had gotten the nod for Roots 0:17:48.119 --> 0:17:51.080 Picnic in Philly, Okay, so that that gave me like 0:17:51.160 --> 0:17:55.119 a good introduction. And then when when Quest told me 0:17:55.160 --> 0:17:58.440 about Roots Picnic New York, I was like, oh man, 0:17:58.520 --> 0:18:00.399 that's like a home game. That's it's going to be 0:18:00.520 --> 0:18:03.280 so easy, truth be told, I haven't even thought about 0:18:03.320 --> 0:18:06.200 it yet. It's going to be in a few hours, 0:18:06.280 --> 0:18:08.879 but it's it's not that long a set, forty five minutes. 0:18:09.080 --> 0:18:10.560 It's gonna be so easy. I'm just gonna do a 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:13.440 mixture of like you know, like some hip hop hits, 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.840 but also like some some more like global danceable stuff. 0:18:17.880 --> 0:18:21.480 I'm thinking Brazilian vibes, African vibes, try to bring something. 0:18:21.320 --> 0:18:23.680 Different, try to warm it up out there. It's cool. 0:18:23.800 --> 0:18:27.080 Yes, yeah, tickets take you guys to the tropics. 0:18:26.800 --> 0:18:28.720 So you don't you don't pre plan your sets at all. Yeah, 0:18:28.720 --> 0:18:30.880 that's kind of question. Yeah I did. 0:18:31.720 --> 0:18:33.880 I did the Red Bull three style the same way 0:18:34.280 --> 0:18:36.960 I pulled up to It was at South Paul and 0:18:37.040 --> 0:18:38.399 I was just chilling in the green room and I 0:18:38.520 --> 0:18:40.560 started looking at some crates, you know, because when you've 0:18:40.640 --> 0:18:43.760 DJ enough, you have all these micro sets that are 0:18:43.800 --> 0:18:46.840 in your head. So sometimes it's a matter of piecing 0:18:46.920 --> 0:18:50.320 the right micro sets together and having the right transition 0:18:50.440 --> 0:18:53.560 records to go from one genre to the other. I 0:18:53.640 --> 0:18:55.520 don't think I've ever done a set where I've gone 0:18:55.760 --> 0:19:00.880 song by song because maybe song number seven didn't hit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 0:19:00.920 --> 0:19:03.360 you know, maybe my intuition is like, nah, don't play 0:19:03.440 --> 0:19:03.919 this right now. 0:19:04.400 --> 0:19:06.040 So yeah, I was gonna ask you. So a lot 0:19:06.080 --> 0:19:09.000 of it is definitely you have to read the crowd. 0:19:09.080 --> 0:19:10.440 I mean, you can have something in your mind, but 0:19:10.520 --> 0:19:11.960 it's like, I don't think that's. 0:19:11.880 --> 0:19:14.320 One hundred percent. I think I think that's basically like 0:19:15.000 --> 0:19:19.400 my main attribute. I'm not necessarily like a turntable list 0:19:19.640 --> 0:19:22.680 or I don't talk on the mic too much. It's 0:19:22.840 --> 0:19:26.360 mostly selection, mixing and timing. So selection's key. 0:19:31.080 --> 0:19:33.040 If you hear some noise, it's just me and the boys. 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:38.479 Goddamn symbol. Now we're a live on location. We're at 0:19:38.520 --> 0:19:39.320 the Routh's picnic. 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:42.760 And so if you hear any kind of booming or 0:19:42.880 --> 0:19:48.119 any kind of just heard coffins, unpaid Bill in his 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:54.320 inmphasema orde, or if you're any kind of drums or anything, 0:19:54.359 --> 0:19:58.280 it's probably our boss man Qus Love playing nearby. 0:19:58.440 --> 0:20:00.840 So it may be some sounds from the picnic that 0:20:00.920 --> 0:20:02.919 you guys here, but I think I think they got 0:20:02.960 --> 0:20:03.320 the picture. 0:20:03.840 --> 0:20:07.760 Okay, yeah, all right, the ambiance, you know what I'm saying, like, 0:20:07.880 --> 0:20:08.840 it's authenticity. 0:20:09.480 --> 0:20:16.920 Fuck it, ladies, gentlemen, we are we are proud once again, 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:17.680 we're here. We're happy. 0:20:17.760 --> 0:20:20.440 Uh, these brothers took time on a show day to 0:20:20.600 --> 0:20:23.080 enjoy us because it really it really means a lot 0:20:23.119 --> 0:20:23.760 for them to come here. 0:20:24.200 --> 0:20:24.320 Uh. 0:20:24.440 --> 0:20:29.640 These brothers are based out of Brooklyn. Ladies and gentlemen, 0:20:30.119 --> 0:20:33.520 please give a big, warm, quest love supreme round of 0:20:33.560 --> 0:20:35.360 applause for the ex ambassadors. 0:20:36.760 --> 0:20:40.880 It's up, fellas, fellas, how y'all feel. 0:20:40.800 --> 0:20:41.720 What feeling good? 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:41.960 Man? 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.160 Feeling great to be back in New York. It's funny, 0:20:44.240 --> 0:20:46.960 you know, we uh we actually all I know this 0:20:47.080 --> 0:20:49.960 is gonna create some groans. We all just relocated to 0:20:50.200 --> 0:20:55.439 l Ah. 0:20:55.560 --> 0:20:56.000 My god. 0:20:56.560 --> 0:20:59.760 So I'm telling you, just like getting off the plane, 0:20:59.800 --> 0:21:02.080 it's it's like seeing this gray sky and it's like 0:21:02.440 --> 0:21:06.119 it's like low sixties. I'm feeling it, man, I'm so 0:21:06.680 --> 0:21:06.920 in it. 0:21:09.080 --> 0:21:10.680 How long have you guys been out in l A 0:21:11.240 --> 0:21:11.600 about it? 0:21:12.160 --> 0:21:15.000 I mean, yeah, you've been there a year. We've been 0:21:15.040 --> 0:21:16.760 on tour. So he moved there a year ago, but 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.560 he hasn't been there. Yeah, I moved like two months ago. 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:22.160 I moved there last September. I spent I've spent maybe 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:25.680 like four weeks there total since I moved. 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:30.560 Wow, you're not a douchebag yet, not yet. 0:21:30.680 --> 0:21:38.159 But I've had some avocado toast that was let's it 0:21:38.280 --> 0:21:39.760 hits your lips, it's so good. 0:21:40.720 --> 0:21:44.520 There's not much avocado toast. You're not up on that. 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:47.640 Oh my god, I'm in so much. This is true. Okay, 0:21:47.640 --> 0:21:49.560 So what okay? So you got to break this down? 0:21:49.600 --> 0:21:51.240 So is it toast spreads. 0:21:51.600 --> 0:21:52.240 It's simple. 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:56.000 It's just avocado kind of smeared on on some toast. 0:21:56.560 --> 0:21:57.639 So it's still got the smear. 0:21:58.440 --> 0:22:01.760 The Jewish New Yorker rights like it's like a boogie peanut. 0:22:01.800 --> 0:22:08.919 But California just gentrified California cream is exactly. 0:22:10.400 --> 0:22:16.200 California is gentrified cream cheese. I got all good, Okay, well, 0:22:16.359 --> 0:22:17.640 thank you for coming through. 0:22:17.840 --> 0:22:19.760 Oh my god, pleasure man. 0:22:19.880 --> 0:22:23.399 So we got with us today just so everyone can 0:22:23.520 --> 0:22:27.280 hear and qualify I so we got Casey Harris on 0:22:27.480 --> 0:22:33.440 keyboards and then lead vocal Sam Harris, and then. 0:22:33.600 --> 0:22:36.880 On drums Adam Levigne or Adam Adam Levin. 0:22:39.400 --> 0:22:43.480 I didn't know how you can take no, no, no 0:22:43.840 --> 0:22:47.040 listen because because it's so funny every airport we're at, 0:22:47.160 --> 0:22:49.359 every time, like someone calls his name to the to 0:22:49.480 --> 0:22:52.600 the desk, the ladies like Adam Levi. 0:22:55.480 --> 0:22:56.080 Looking around. 0:22:57.240 --> 0:22:59.480 Is what it really is is the guy holding like 0:22:59.640 --> 0:23:04.119 the sign and the so there's like kids crowding around him. 0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.240 He like spells my name wrong, so it says Adam 0:23:06.320 --> 0:23:08.720 Levine and then there's like kids standing around him with 0:23:08.800 --> 0:23:11.399 cameras ready. But then I get there and say it 0:23:11.440 --> 0:23:12.520 to me, and everyone's just like a. 0:23:14.960 --> 0:23:15.560 Disappointment. 0:23:15.800 --> 0:23:17.359 Have you ever played to it, though, Like, have you 0:23:17.440 --> 0:23:18.920 ever actually like went with it? 0:23:19.040 --> 0:23:21.400 One time, I was in Mexico about a month ago, 0:23:21.840 --> 0:23:24.680 and I was trying to go to this really fancy restaurant, 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:28.040 and I put my name down and I got there 0:23:28.840 --> 0:23:33.119 super late, and I guess Adam Levine had gotten married 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:34.080 at this restaurant. 0:23:34.720 --> 0:23:35.000 Wow. 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.439 And so I got there and they were like, oh, 0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:39.440 we thought it was going to be Adam Levine. And 0:23:39.600 --> 0:23:42.359 I smoozed him a little bit. So not it didn't 0:23:42.400 --> 0:23:44.120 truly like work in my favorite but I did get 0:23:44.160 --> 0:23:47.760 to sit you guys, I still got a little something. Actually, 0:23:47.840 --> 0:23:49.040 mostly it's just disappointment. 0:23:50.560 --> 0:23:51.480 This actually reminds me of. 0:23:51.520 --> 0:23:53.200 Something I read in the New York Post the other 0:23:53.280 --> 0:23:57.680 day about man in Manhattan. His name was Denzel Washington. 0:24:00.040 --> 0:24:02.320 Yeah he was. He was arrested for strangling a woman 0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:13.600 by the name of Aretha Franklin. Washington. Ultimate clickbait. Perfect, 0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:14.680 it was perfect. 0:24:14.640 --> 0:24:15.840 Only the post Man. 0:24:16.760 --> 0:24:20.280 Yeah paper, they know their headline. 0:24:20.600 --> 0:24:23.240 Yeah, slow news day. 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:25.240 Wow, that's hilarious. 0:24:26.160 --> 0:24:28.119 I want to talk a little bit about how you 0:24:28.160 --> 0:24:32.080 guys first started and just you know, what turns you 0:24:32.160 --> 0:24:34.680 on to music, Like what made you, you know, want 0:24:34.720 --> 0:24:37.320 to pick up that instrument or start writing songs? 0:24:37.400 --> 0:24:38.760 What was the beginning for you guys. 0:24:38.880 --> 0:24:42.760 So, Casey and I grew up in college town upstate Ithaca, 0:24:42.840 --> 0:24:47.080 New York, and we uh, we always kind of have 0:24:47.200 --> 0:24:50.680 been playing music together since we're kids. My mom's actually 0:24:50.760 --> 0:24:56.000 here on the couch, and my mom is a singer 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:58.320 growing up, so there's music in the household all the time. 0:24:58.400 --> 0:25:01.199 And we used to we used to sometimes accompany her 0:25:01.280 --> 0:25:04.560 at her shows. We'd like we'd be the guest the 0:25:04.680 --> 0:25:08.520 guest stars. This is like when I was maybe like 0:25:08.840 --> 0:25:11.400 eight or nine and uh in case he was ten 0:25:12.200 --> 0:25:14.920 and uh yeah, we started first band in middle school 0:25:15.000 --> 0:25:17.560 and and just kind of played music all throughout middle 0:25:17.560 --> 0:25:20.399 school and high school and then uh moved to New 0:25:20.520 --> 0:25:24.400 York and uh, you know, we we've been a band. 0:25:24.560 --> 0:25:27.720 We met Adam first year of school at New School 0:25:27.800 --> 0:25:32.240 University in the freshman dorms and uh, what year was this? 0:25:33.400 --> 0:25:35.639 Yeah doesn't Oh my god, I. 0:25:35.680 --> 0:25:37.600 Think y'all were there around the same time. I played 0:25:37.600 --> 0:25:40.080 one of my first gigs there. Oh yeah where my 0:25:40.119 --> 0:25:41.520 first group of Little brother we played. 0:25:41.640 --> 0:25:44.880 Uh we played New School University album around the time 0:25:44.920 --> 0:25:47.359 we released album The Mistters Show, and it was around 0:25:47.400 --> 0:25:47.680 that time. 0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:49.360 But New School always showed us love. 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.800 Yeah, it's a great place and it was a nice chip. 0:25:52.040 --> 0:25:57.639 Oh remember, oh man, come on the first But you 0:25:57.720 --> 0:25:59.560 know what, here's here's the funny thing. So for us, 0:25:59.640 --> 0:26:02.639 we we have for many many years kind of based 0:26:03.440 --> 0:26:06.200 we can always judge and this is not always true, 0:26:06.359 --> 0:26:09.080 it's not always true, but back in the day, at 0:26:09.119 --> 0:26:11.600 least especially with college shows, we'd always judge like, Okay, 0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.680 if we're getting a lot of money for the show, 0:26:14.880 --> 0:26:16.080 it's gonna suck. 0:26:17.680 --> 0:26:18.320 More money. 0:26:18.720 --> 0:26:20.680 It's like the worst of the show. So the first 0:26:20.720 --> 0:26:23.520 show we played out of college, that was like the 0:26:23.600 --> 0:26:25.920 biggest check. It was like two thousand dollars or something, 0:26:26.359 --> 0:26:27.480 and we're stoked. 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:28.240 We never made that. 0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:30.200 We never made that kind of money at a show, 0:26:30.880 --> 0:26:34.200 and we drove it was it was outside of Philly 0:26:34.720 --> 0:26:38.280 and it was at this Uh it was like on 0:26:38.359 --> 0:26:41.879 a Tuesday night in like the student lounge in the 0:26:42.680 --> 0:26:45.760 rec room at like ten pm and there's nobody there 0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.320 except the promoter and one guy playing pinball on the 0:26:49.600 --> 0:26:53.359 very back. The promoter left a guy who was playing. 0:26:53.400 --> 0:26:59.119 It turned into just a rehearsal that we got, very 0:26:59.160 --> 0:27:02.880 anti climact, very ante. Not bad that our highest paid gig, 0:27:04.000 --> 0:27:04.960 but I digressed. 0:27:05.240 --> 0:27:06.399 Sorry, We've been in. 0:27:06.359 --> 0:27:09.240 A band for about like ten years now, and uh, yeah, 0:27:09.320 --> 0:27:10.639 we we love it, man. 0:27:10.560 --> 0:27:11.080 That's what's up. 0:27:11.160 --> 0:27:11.320 Man? 0:27:11.880 --> 0:27:14.320 You guys know your music, like you have a lot 0:27:14.520 --> 0:27:18.639 of hip hop references, and like you use like interludes 0:27:18.800 --> 0:27:19.840 on your records. 0:27:19.960 --> 0:27:23.679 Yeah, and you know the interlude is like a a staple, 0:27:23.920 --> 0:27:25.400 h staple. You know what I'm saying. 0:27:25.920 --> 0:27:27.840 You could always judge your albums, you know, it was 0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:31.080 the music was the music. But so many classic skits, 0:27:31.359 --> 0:27:32.720 so many albums have been defined by. 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:35.080 You remember the Carnival that Whit Records. 0:27:36.800 --> 0:27:38.840 Oh my god, you but folks. 0:27:39.160 --> 0:27:43.160 Changed my life, changed my life shop, Oh my god, 0:27:44.200 --> 0:27:46.600 the greatest. And so so we grew up listening to 0:27:47.160 --> 0:27:49.720 records like that, like you know, like it even you know, 0:27:49.880 --> 0:27:52.520 even the skits on thirty six Chambers of Samples, you 0:27:52.560 --> 0:27:59.560 know Killope, Yeah and uh and like Sanconia Store. 0:28:00.040 --> 0:28:02.120 What are some of your favorite hip hop Like, let's 0:28:02.240 --> 0:28:06.320 re enact some of your favorite God this this is 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:08.960 like one of mine. Is maybe like you can help 0:28:09.000 --> 0:28:12.160 me with kimm and Cookie from Come On Ring, Oh 0:28:12.240 --> 0:28:22.680 my god, hollout Word Records. 0:28:22.680 --> 0:28:24.200 The other day she got it on vinyl. It's like 0:28:24.520 --> 0:28:27.560 one of my that's that's one of my top five. 0:28:27.880 --> 0:28:31.679 My mine is definitely, uh, Red red Man, Muddy Waters 0:28:31.720 --> 0:28:36.360 that I Gotta Soda Buscuit on the on on Tyrese 0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:38.760 and he's picking on the Tyresse commercial. That might have 0:28:38.800 --> 0:28:42.000 been like before, but that ships hilarious. The carnival definitely 0:28:42.160 --> 0:28:43.160 is all though. 0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:45.800 Yeah, oh my god, I still a I I still 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:46.880 like ghost. I'm stuck on. 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:53.560 Those. 0:28:54.080 --> 0:28:57.080 These are all classes kits from hip hop albums. That 0:28:57.320 --> 0:28:58.960 was the ghost we were represent That's from a O 0:28:59.120 --> 0:29:00.640 y Bionics from Yeah. 0:29:02.840 --> 0:29:05.160 Time man, it was that like I love that. 0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:07.880 It was when when everyone was crushing the inters. Well, 0:29:07.880 --> 0:29:10.040 I don't know what it was about that, and it 0:29:10.120 --> 0:29:12.800 seemed like all the best albums had at least a few. 0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.360 Skits in the and we really wanted to kind of 0:29:16.040 --> 0:29:20.040 incorporate and incorporate that into our our sound too, you 0:29:20.120 --> 0:29:22.480 know them. The whole album itself is a kind of 0:29:22.520 --> 0:29:24.960 a throwback to to all of our influences. 0:29:25.080 --> 0:29:29.160 So that's dope, man. With you guys playing this gig today, 0:29:30.800 --> 0:29:32.000 this is something. 0:29:31.760 --> 0:29:33.920 That, I mean, the greatest show that we. 0:29:38.120 --> 0:29:38.160 Like. 0:29:38.320 --> 0:29:41.160 So okay talking about bands that influenced us growing up, 0:29:41.920 --> 0:29:47.720 The roots were everything to me. They were everything to me. 0:29:48.960 --> 0:29:49.320 What was it? 0:29:49.520 --> 0:29:51.240 I don't know. I mean the fact that, well, first 0:29:51.240 --> 0:29:54.280 of all, I loved hip hop uh. You know, ever 0:29:54.360 --> 0:29:56.880 since I was in like elementary school. The first time 0:29:56.920 --> 0:29:58.200 I heard hip hop, I was like, this is the 0:29:58.280 --> 0:29:59.800 music that I'm going to listen to for the rest 0:29:59.800 --> 0:30:03.240 of my And they were also a band. They played, 0:30:03.320 --> 0:30:05.880 I mean, they played their instruments and they were so good. 0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:08.720 I was such a fan. I even saw that Remember 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:09.960 that movie that Black thought. 0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:13.040 I saw that movie. 0:30:13.120 --> 0:30:21.600 Yeah, yeah, Brooklyn, I wasted ninety minutes of my life. 0:30:23.320 --> 0:30:28.280 It was actually I think was graating it though, Like 0:30:28.400 --> 0:30:31.120 I mean, it was okay, it was I think it 0:30:31.200 --> 0:30:33.479 was just a yeah story. 0:30:33.800 --> 0:30:36.120 Yeah, it was just like that Romeo and Juliet kind 0:30:36.160 --> 0:30:36.920 of yeah. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.480 But it just didn't have it didn't talk at my 0:30:39.520 --> 0:30:44.520 heart strings like an interracial little story. I need more 0:30:44.680 --> 0:30:50.000 passion from the black and Jewish love. I need to 0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:50.840 sell them a little more. 0:30:50.960 --> 0:30:51.200 Dude. 0:30:51.440 --> 0:30:52.000 It was it was. 0:30:52.160 --> 0:30:54.480 It wasn't convincing. It wasn't convincing at all. It wasn't 0:30:55.120 --> 0:30:57.400 fair enough. When we have Tarika on the show, we 0:30:57.480 --> 0:31:00.160 have to ask him about we will. We were all 0:31:00.160 --> 0:31:00.480 about that. 0:31:00.880 --> 0:31:03.200 So with you guys playing this gig, is there a 0:31:03.240 --> 0:31:05.800 different kind of preparation that goes into it, because oh, well, 0:31:05.840 --> 0:31:09.400 first off, what is it like to play for it, 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.720 because I've been in this situation before, so I want 0:31:12.760 --> 0:31:14.520 to hear from you guys, what is it like to 0:31:14.760 --> 0:31:17.560 play for quote unquote your heroes? 0:31:17.720 --> 0:31:19.800 Like, what is that like? Is there a different kind 0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:21.240 of preparation? Terrifying? 0:31:21.840 --> 0:31:22.680 It's terrifying. 0:31:22.720 --> 0:31:25.200 But also you know that the lucky thing for us 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:28.000 is that we have been again, we've been a band 0:31:28.080 --> 0:31:31.720 for so long that we've had a lot of preparation time. 0:31:31.920 --> 0:31:33.560 So you know, like at the end of the day, 0:31:33.840 --> 0:31:38.600 like I think, as as nervous as we might get, 0:31:38.800 --> 0:31:40.680 you know, playing in front of our heroes or playing 0:31:40.720 --> 0:31:42.800 for some of our heroes, I think I think we 0:31:42.920 --> 0:31:44.920 can bring it. I feel like it's when when the 0:31:45.040 --> 0:31:46.120 time comes, it's. 0:31:45.960 --> 0:31:49.360 Almost easier this way. This I'm pretty confident playing you know, 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:51.760 our set. I have to admit that when we jammed 0:31:51.760 --> 0:31:53.920 with the Roots during south By, I was shitting my pants. 0:31:55.200 --> 0:31:55.440 Yeah. 0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:57.480 Yeah, So we sat in with them. They did the 0:31:57.560 --> 0:32:00.480 whole thing south By Southwest this year where they invited 0:32:00.520 --> 0:32:02.880 some of the musicians playing to play, and we were 0:32:02.960 --> 0:32:05.479 lucky enough to to sit in and play with them, 0:32:05.520 --> 0:32:09.800 and that was the craziest, craziest, you know, it's one 0:32:09.840 --> 0:32:11.800 thing to play like you know, you're set the music 0:32:11.880 --> 0:32:13.800 that you you know, have written and know you know, 0:32:13.920 --> 0:32:15.240 like the back of your hand, and it's nother to 0:32:15.400 --> 0:32:18.000 just you know, go into a live jam situation, you 0:32:18.080 --> 0:32:20.320 know where you've you've had maybe one quick rehearsal and 0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:23.040 and you know the you know, the roots of pros. 0:32:25.080 --> 0:32:26.719 He was such a tight ship out there. 0:32:26.800 --> 0:32:35.000 It doesn't so cool. We wouldn't but talk. 0:32:34.880 --> 0:32:37.360 About that real quick because the way that like throws 0:32:37.440 --> 0:32:39.960 his cues at the same time while he's playing drums 0:32:40.040 --> 0:32:40.920 like he's music director. 0:32:42.400 --> 0:32:45.000 Just you know, I'm sure they've run through the songs, 0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:46.600 you know, a couple of times. I don't think so 0:32:46.880 --> 0:32:50.520 they may just have Yeah, it's amazing. He'll just say 0:32:50.520 --> 0:32:52.440 you like, you know, all right, slow down, or give me, 0:32:52.480 --> 0:32:54.200 give me four hits or you know, just you know 0:32:54.520 --> 0:32:56.560 we're ending, you know, two bars, you know, and just 0:32:56.760 --> 0:32:58.640 and they do it like it like it was you know, 0:32:58.880 --> 0:32:59.840 practice a million times. 0:33:00.120 --> 0:33:06.200 Very Prince, Yeah, yeah, exactly. I read. Prince was a 0:33:06.240 --> 0:33:06.880 big influence. 0:33:07.360 --> 0:33:09.360 Yeah, man, he was a huge influence. 0:33:09.480 --> 0:33:09.680 You know. 0:33:09.880 --> 0:33:12.800 I would say that my two pillars that I always 0:33:12.840 --> 0:33:15.880 go to with anything that I ever have written or 0:33:16.040 --> 0:33:19.040 write or will write in the future or do just 0:33:19.160 --> 0:33:22.760 in general. It's like there's always there's Bruce Springsteen and 0:33:22.840 --> 0:33:23.320 this Prince. 0:33:24.120 --> 0:33:26.000 What about those two? What about Well? 0:33:26.840 --> 0:33:29.000 I feel like if I do anything that I that 0:33:29.160 --> 0:33:33.760 I could see maybe being in line with either of them, 0:33:33.840 --> 0:33:36.200 then it's then I'm on the right track, you know. 0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:42.200 Like Prince was just the consummate entertainer and performer, and 0:33:42.400 --> 0:33:45.680 he just I mean, he's like so many people can 0:33:45.720 --> 0:33:49.440 speak way more eloquently on the man, the myth, the 0:33:49.520 --> 0:33:52.440 legend that was Prince, you know, than I can. But 0:33:53.480 --> 0:33:57.920 he was just a huge, huge influence on everything that 0:33:58.000 --> 0:34:00.800 I do, and such a great performer and sing a musician. 0:34:00.880 --> 0:34:04.920 And Springsteen is is storytelling is what gets me. And 0:34:05.000 --> 0:34:08.560 his his just authenticity and he's so generous. 0:34:08.600 --> 0:34:08.719 You know. 0:34:08.800 --> 0:34:12.759 I just saw him play at Barclay's recently, and the 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.440 way have you guys seen his his show, I mean 0:34:15.520 --> 0:34:18.080 it's like a yeah, Well, what he does is like 0:34:18.120 --> 0:34:20.759 he starts his show off and the house lights are 0:34:20.800 --> 0:34:23.680 up in the arena and he just walks on stage. 0:34:24.040 --> 0:34:26.640 Wo the house lights stay up for the first three songs, 0:34:26.680 --> 0:34:29.680 so it's just like a wedding band is there playing 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.799 for an arena but it's Bruce and his whole band, 0:34:33.840 --> 0:34:35.640 and then the lights go down. He does the show 0:34:35.680 --> 0:34:38.920 and it gets more theatrical at the end. Lights come 0:34:39.000 --> 0:34:41.319 back up. In the last like six songs of the set, 0:34:41.520 --> 0:34:44.320 after he's played for what like three hours or something, 0:34:45.040 --> 0:34:48.399 he's he's, you know, taking requests from the audience, he's 0:34:48.480 --> 0:34:51.480 bringing people up on stage. He's just so he's so 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:53.680 good with his fans and with his people that I, 0:34:54.080 --> 0:34:58.160 you know, I just like I really admire that. 0:34:58.320 --> 0:35:00.719 What's it like to have your songs everywhere? 0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.160 I think, like, like like I was in the Supermark 0:35:03.160 --> 0:35:05.320 the other day and Unsteady came on, and I feel like, 0:35:05.400 --> 0:35:08.000 you're like, it's like it's it's surreal to me to 0:35:08.040 --> 0:35:09.680 think that, Like you're in your house one day, right, 0:35:09.800 --> 0:35:10.360 it's surreal to. 0:35:10.400 --> 0:35:13.440 Me because I never hear it anywhere always, just like 0:35:13.560 --> 0:35:16.120 I hear it everywhere, but it's like, ah, what world 0:35:16.200 --> 0:35:16.719 do you live in? 0:35:16.760 --> 0:35:17.960 Because I don't hear it. 0:35:17.960 --> 0:35:19.680 Ever Like I have I have small kids listen to 0:35:19.719 --> 0:35:21.160 pop radio all day and it's one of the one 0:35:21.200 --> 0:35:23.840 of those sick songs that like every twenty minutes you 0:35:23.960 --> 0:35:24.799 hear it again and again. 0:35:25.080 --> 0:35:26.439 It's wonderful it's just it's. 0:35:26.360 --> 0:35:26.920 That's good to hear. 0:35:27.440 --> 0:35:28.920 Yeah, that's I mean, it's good to hear you say 0:35:28.920 --> 0:35:30.319 it's wonderful, because I was about to say it's one 0:35:30.320 --> 0:35:32.279 of those things where it's it's really flattering. But I'm 0:35:32.360 --> 0:35:35.840 also always nervous that it gets obnoxious for people. You know, 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:38.520 I don't want our songs to become the that annoying song. 0:35:38.640 --> 0:35:39.719 Oh god, that's on again. 0:35:39.800 --> 0:35:45.799 Man, that's the children are annoying. Yeah, my children are young. 0:35:46.960 --> 0:35:48.000 And share their angels. 0:35:48.120 --> 0:35:55.239 Oh yeah, total, So they just flap around, ye, daddy, daddy, 0:35:56.360 --> 0:36:03.840 That's how I go. Yeah, young lady, we have in 0:36:03.960 --> 0:36:04.759 the house right now. 0:36:06.040 --> 0:36:10.280 I first became familiar with her opening for Jill Scott 0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:14.800 back twenty fifteen, and I was just like, man, like, 0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:15.839 she's fucking dope. 0:36:15.920 --> 0:36:18.959 I just keep it real simple, dope. 0:36:20.080 --> 0:36:21.920 Some of you may have know if you're up on 0:36:22.040 --> 0:36:24.200 TOI dollar Sign shot him my man, tie dollar Sign 0:36:25.600 --> 0:36:28.000 his record, Horses in the Stable off for free TC. 0:36:28.600 --> 0:36:31.799 She wrote that record Yeah we Don't Talk, We Don't 0:36:31.800 --> 0:36:38.440 talk about also wrote for Diddy every Day. She was 0:36:38.560 --> 0:36:40.439 in the movie shytrack, which I want to talk about. 0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:43.719 I actually saw that one, and I want to talk 0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.560 to her about something that's very important and near and 0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:46.279 there to my heart. 0:36:46.560 --> 0:36:50.200 I want to talk about her. Got him ribs. That's 0:36:50.320 --> 0:36:54.480 really what I that's the focus episode. 0:36:55.200 --> 0:36:57.080 It's saying, my real game is crazy. 0:36:57.360 --> 0:37:01.200 Ladies, gentlemen, give a big question love supreme riperht plause 0:37:01.239 --> 0:37:04.800 for y'all's guys. 0:37:06.880 --> 0:37:09.000 To the show man, thank you, thank you for taking 0:37:09.040 --> 0:37:10.840 this time on the show day to do this with us. 0:37:10.920 --> 0:37:11.480 Thank you so much. 0:37:11.920 --> 0:37:12.759 Thank you for having me. 0:37:12.920 --> 0:37:16.880 Okay, so listen, all right, yes. 0:37:18.239 --> 0:37:21.600 Okay, So what's your I don't want to give away 0:37:21.680 --> 0:37:25.480 your you don't give away your your formula, But what 0:37:25.680 --> 0:37:25.960 do you do? 0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:26.960 You do you smoke? 0:37:27.120 --> 0:37:30.360 Are you a what's your what's your what's your preferred 0:37:30.400 --> 0:37:33.240 mythic charcoal gas? Break it down for the people. 0:37:34.000 --> 0:37:37.800 Sweet baby, let's let's let's go. 0:37:38.080 --> 0:37:38.759 Let's talk about it. 0:37:38.960 --> 0:37:42.200 Well, first I gotta get some really nice pork They 0:37:42.280 --> 0:37:43.200 have to be pork ribs. 0:37:43.400 --> 0:37:47.160 Of course it's not. It's not saying out. It's like 0:37:47.880 --> 0:37:49.719 it's cool, but it ain't the same. 0:37:49.840 --> 0:37:51.320 You know, you got to get the pork ribs, you know, 0:37:51.400 --> 0:37:56.160 get a nice rack rip season these ribs overnight, not 0:37:56.320 --> 0:37:57.200 get a rib rub. 0:37:57.320 --> 0:37:59.479 You know you know, I get a Lorry's rib rub. 0:37:59.680 --> 0:38:03.560 You know, I rubbed down. You know I've massaged it 0:38:03.680 --> 0:38:05.879 into the rip. It's all about the massaging. You can't 0:38:05.960 --> 0:38:07.200 just like pour it on it. 0:38:07.280 --> 0:38:09.879 You gotta massage it in, you know, flip it over, 0:38:10.040 --> 0:38:17.839 turn it. Massage. You got to get involved. So I'm 0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:19.840 rubbing the ribs right now with the with the with 0:38:19.960 --> 0:38:22.439 the with the the rib rub. 0:38:22.719 --> 0:38:24.880 Now, I take a little a little nutmeg and a 0:38:24.920 --> 0:38:26.920 little cinnamon, and I get that in there and I 0:38:27.040 --> 0:38:29.839 crack that aver. I'm rubbing these things in and now 0:38:29.840 --> 0:38:31.280 I'm like, all right, baby, I'm gonna. 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:32.359 Put it in the fridge. You know what I'm saying. 0:38:32.400 --> 0:38:37.040 It's gonna stay in the fridge now. Yeah, because you 0:38:37.040 --> 0:38:39.040 know I'm loving this rib. You gotta make sure the 0:38:39.120 --> 0:38:41.040 drip got lots of love. When I cook, I cooked 0:38:41.040 --> 0:38:43.080 with love. I don't cook every day, but anybody who 0:38:43.160 --> 0:38:44.960 knows me knows when I cook, I cook with love. 0:38:45.040 --> 0:38:47.000 I go all out. So you know, the rib go 0:38:47.120 --> 0:38:50.239 in there now, minimum of three hours, but I've done 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:50.839 it overnight. Thing. 0:38:50.920 --> 0:38:53.120 It depends on how soon I want to eat these ribs, 0:38:54.200 --> 0:38:56.279 I'm saying. So I let them sit in there for 0:38:56.320 --> 0:38:58.200 a couple of hours. Then I come back, put on 0:38:58.280 --> 0:39:00.600 a big pot of boiling water, and I put nutmeg 0:39:00.680 --> 0:39:03.040 in that water, cinnamon in that water, a lot of 0:39:03.160 --> 0:39:03.760 ground pepper. 0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.239 You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to told you 0:39:06.400 --> 0:39:09.040 like this is like I just the process. It's the 0:39:09.320 --> 0:39:10.480 it's my one dish. 0:39:13.640 --> 0:39:18.560 It's my mac and cheese is hit he men. 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:19.399 Sometimes it's dry. 0:39:19.520 --> 0:39:20.960 Last time I made it, I messed it up, you 0:39:20.960 --> 0:39:22.560 know what I'm saying. So so I'm not gonna say 0:39:22.560 --> 0:39:25.239 that I got mad, but this one I got. You know, 0:39:25.320 --> 0:39:27.080 I got and my salad game is on too. 0:39:27.239 --> 0:39:29.120 Okay, So let's get back to the So I put 0:39:29.160 --> 0:39:31.200 them in the water. You know what I'm saying. The 0:39:31.320 --> 0:39:31.960 ribs are in the water. 0:39:31.960 --> 0:39:34.560 They're boiling. They're boiling on a nice medium fire. I 0:39:34.719 --> 0:39:36.480 leave them to do what they do with the water. 0:39:36.520 --> 0:39:38.839 They're boiling. They got the nutmeg. Everything's happening. I's gonna 0:39:38.880 --> 0:39:41.120 smell the aroma in the air. It's like you smell 0:39:41.200 --> 0:39:45.120 the sweet smell of cinnamon and nutmegs in the air. 0:39:45.200 --> 0:39:46.640 Now it's like, oh snap. 0:39:47.320 --> 0:39:49.319 So now you know what I'm saying. After like two 0:39:49.400 --> 0:39:51.440 hours of boiling them, I think they've already. 0:39:51.480 --> 0:39:53.439 You know, they gotta be falling off. You gotta see 0:39:53.440 --> 0:39:55.839 little meat bits, you know, foam at the top. That's 0:39:55.880 --> 0:39:58.120 when you know you like the foam? Is this, yes, 0:39:58.520 --> 0:40:00.480 now draining out the foam, draining out of the water. 0:40:00.880 --> 0:40:05.000 And I'm taking this nice succulent cooked meat already that's 0:40:05.040 --> 0:40:08.120 all marinated in this greatness, and I'm taking the Sweet 0:40:08.160 --> 0:40:09.120 Baby Race out now. 0:40:10.640 --> 0:40:12.920 Sweet Baby Race, for those of you who may be listening, 0:40:13.160 --> 0:40:17.360 is one of the top barbecue and black household. Yes, 0:40:17.840 --> 0:40:20.160 it comes in several varieties. 0:40:20.600 --> 0:40:23.200 It has a sweet and spicy, it has like it 0:40:23.280 --> 0:40:26.760 it's a lot they're coming for, they do. I wouldn't 0:40:27.040 --> 0:40:29.400 you want to stick with the sweet and spicy. They 0:40:29.480 --> 0:40:32.920 coming for Jack Daniels Mass like they coming for their corners. 0:40:33.000 --> 0:40:34.080 That's that's what they're doing. 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:34.400 You know what. 0:40:35.080 --> 0:40:39.120 I stick with the original, the original sweet Baby, because 0:40:39.160 --> 0:40:41.520 you know, this is what I know. And I jazz 0:40:41.600 --> 0:40:43.120 it up though I don't just pour that on this. 0:40:43.160 --> 0:40:45.560 See that's not what we stop. First get sweet Baby 0:40:45.600 --> 0:40:47.560 Rais and I grab a little honey. Then I go 0:40:47.719 --> 0:40:49.120 grab the nutmeg and cinnamon. 0:40:49.200 --> 0:40:54.160 Once more. We got to I didn't even know that 0:40:54.200 --> 0:40:55.600 was cust I try to name the tyrone. 0:40:55.640 --> 0:40:59.000 That's crusty, baby, I said, I'll see the sticks now, okay, 0:40:59.640 --> 0:41:02.240 but yeah, so yeah, yeah, we're gonna cook you up crusty. 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:04.319 Yeah. So you know what I'm saying. Now we done 0:41:04.400 --> 0:41:07.719 got the Oh shoot, well, crust lay down. Now we 0:41:07.800 --> 0:41:08.920 don't got the you know what I'm saying, we got 0:41:09.000 --> 0:41:10.000 the We gotta sprinkle that on. 0:41:10.120 --> 0:41:12.399 So now I pour the honey on top first, because 0:41:12.440 --> 0:41:14.640 that's gonna give it the stickiest part. You put that 0:41:14.719 --> 0:41:16.600 on once and now I'm turning this thing over about 0:41:16.600 --> 0:41:19.120 three or four times before I'm serving us first and 0:41:19.280 --> 0:41:20.399 doing this over and over. 0:41:20.800 --> 0:41:22.480 The first layer is honey. 0:41:22.640 --> 0:41:23.000 Boom. 0:41:23.520 --> 0:41:25.640 Then I go pour some of cinnamon nut man, because 0:41:25.640 --> 0:41:27.439 it's gonna stick to the honey. I get my little 0:41:27.480 --> 0:41:28.279 brush painted on. 0:41:28.480 --> 0:41:30.720 Boom boom. Then I poured sweet baby rays a little 0:41:30.800 --> 0:41:33.160 bit of a time on top. 0:41:33.680 --> 0:41:36.919 Then I cout another cook it for fifteen minutes, flip 0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:39.480 it over, do it again it, flip it, flip it, 0:41:39.520 --> 0:41:41.360 flip it, flip and flip it until I'm tired of 0:41:41.360 --> 0:41:44.520 flipping it. I don't really have no until I'm hungry 0:41:44.600 --> 0:41:46.400 and look good, and I just keep doing it. 0:41:46.440 --> 0:41:48.600 And by the man, I'm talking about like you got 0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:52.120 the rib, you got the thick layer of like glaze. 0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:55.520 Barbecue, and it's not it's not like all like too 0:41:55.600 --> 0:41:57.600 much juice. It's just like right on the rip and 0:41:57.640 --> 0:41:58.759 then the rib's just falling off. 0:41:59.480 --> 0:42:01.160 Hey, you know, I gotta do it again. I have 0:42:01.239 --> 0:42:02.239 a million ribs in a minute. 0:42:02.280 --> 0:42:07.040 But yes, ladies and gentlemen, with the award winning and 0:42:07.200 --> 0:42:08.840 as far as I'm hearing, I'm done. 0:42:12.440 --> 0:42:14.080 Just from listening to that recipe. 0:42:14.280 --> 0:42:16.359 Oh wait, she singing and she rhyme too. 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:17.080 Yeah. 0:42:17.280 --> 0:42:18.640 Yeah, we're gonna get to the We're gonna get to 0:42:18.680 --> 0:42:22.920 the music. But first ribs important. 0:42:26.760 --> 0:42:29.359 I just landed at six am because I just was thinking. 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:30.360 I was like, if I would have known it was 0:42:30.400 --> 0:42:31.520 in my ribs like that, man, I. 0:42:31.480 --> 0:42:33.080 Could have hooked that up real quick. 0:42:33.320 --> 0:42:36.640 Man, you gotta show I got show that. Yeah, you 0:42:36.760 --> 0:42:39.120 got way more important things. 0:42:39.400 --> 0:42:41.320 Your first roots picnic performance. 0:42:40.960 --> 0:42:42.480 Right, yes, no, no, no no, no. I've done the 0:42:42.560 --> 0:42:43.000 Ruse Picnic. 0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:44.640 I did Ruths Picnic in Philly, but it's the first 0:42:44.719 --> 0:42:48.359 Rust Picnic in New York period, So I'm so glad 0:42:48.400 --> 0:42:49.000 to be a part of that. 0:42:49.800 --> 0:42:49.960 Man. 0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:54.279 I listened to your music and I hear in a 0:42:54.400 --> 0:42:56.520 fantastic way, not in the the riveted at all. I'm 0:42:56.560 --> 0:43:01.120 definitely hearing some Lauren. I hear, Missy talk to me 0:43:01.160 --> 0:43:03.840 about your influences, like what uh, what kind of stuff 0:43:03.840 --> 0:43:06.680 did you grow up? Listening to you sing and rap 0:43:06.840 --> 0:43:10.680 like equally as well, which is very rare because like 0:43:10.840 --> 0:43:12.920 some cats can either do one or the other. 0:43:13.239 --> 0:43:13.680 You should know. 0:43:14.400 --> 0:43:17.880 Yeah, I mean, you know, I tried every now and again, 0:43:18.080 --> 0:43:22.680 I get it right, but no, you have raw talent, 0:43:24.200 --> 0:43:27.480 and so talk to us about just honing that. 0:43:27.719 --> 0:43:30.640 Like what you listen to coming up? What was your start? 0:43:31.120 --> 0:43:33.440 I really loved music a lot so well, when I 0:43:33.560 --> 0:43:36.000 was very young, my mom had me singing under. 0:43:35.840 --> 0:43:37.359 A little a little light with her. 0:43:37.840 --> 0:43:39.680 I was like six, and we used to sing like 0:43:39.800 --> 0:43:42.040 all kinds of different old school songs because that's what 0:43:42.160 --> 0:43:44.680 my mother plays. So she had me singing Frankie Liman, 0:43:45.360 --> 0:43:49.399 you know, yeah, yeah, she she was all about that life. 0:43:50.120 --> 0:43:52.879 So she had me on the Frankie Liman. She had 0:43:53.000 --> 0:43:55.359 my sister singing Whitney Houston's the Greatest Love of All. 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.239 I sung Dianna Warwick's That's what Friends Are? 0:43:58.280 --> 0:43:58.520 Food? 0:43:58.600 --> 0:43:59.279 Do you have to sing? 0:43:59.320 --> 0:44:01.000 Because I think it was the rite of fastage in 0:44:01.080 --> 0:44:05.319 every black like entertainer singing the Greatest Love of All 0:44:05.360 --> 0:44:06.080 at a talent show. 0:44:06.120 --> 0:44:06.840 Did you have to do that? 0:44:07.160 --> 0:44:07.200 No? 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:08.960 You know at the time. 0:44:09.200 --> 0:44:11.120 See, that's what led me into rap because at the time, 0:44:11.200 --> 0:44:13.279 my sister could sing that, and I never got the 0:44:13.400 --> 0:44:15.080 chance because they my mom would. 0:44:14.840 --> 0:44:16.000 Be like, oh, you ain't got the chaps for that. 0:44:16.040 --> 0:44:18.399 You're gonna sing you know what you sing good, You're 0:44:18.400 --> 0:44:18.960 gonna sing. 0:44:18.880 --> 0:44:21.879 Dion woll And I was like, and I would be like, cool, 0:44:22.040 --> 0:44:24.400 no disrespect to Leon, She's a legend and amazing. 0:44:24.440 --> 0:44:26.439 But I was like, this is not that hard. That's 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:31.400 what the friends are, you know. I and my sister's 0:44:31.400 --> 0:44:35.720 getting to go. You know what I'm saying, She's getting 0:44:35.719 --> 0:44:36.879 all the moments. I'm like, man. 0:44:37.520 --> 0:44:40.320 So I got into rap after that because I was 0:44:40.360 --> 0:44:43.040 getting tired of like told to saying this or that, 0:44:43.120 --> 0:44:44.640 and I was like, man, my sister could sing, Man, 0:44:44.680 --> 0:44:45.160 I don't need that. 0:44:45.320 --> 0:44:47.880 What was your first rap? What was your early hip hop? 0:44:48.280 --> 0:44:48.560 Shoot? 0:44:48.600 --> 0:44:51.719 Like my brother really because like, honestly, in my neighborhood, 0:44:51.800 --> 0:44:54.200 everybody rapped like that was just the way it was, 0:44:54.280 --> 0:44:56.399 like we hang out rap and my brothers were older, 0:44:56.520 --> 0:44:58.120 Like my brother's a few years older than me, and 0:44:58.239 --> 0:45:00.040 his friends were older. But for some reason, we we 0:45:00.040 --> 0:45:01.399 all wanted up hanging out all the time. 0:45:01.560 --> 0:45:03.480 Like it was kind of strange, like it was. 0:45:05.080 --> 0:45:05.400 Shoot. 0:45:05.600 --> 0:45:12.279 I mean, you know, ninety three, oh wow, you know, yeah, 0:45:12.440 --> 0:45:15.040 so we was rapping, that's what was popping like. 0:45:15.640 --> 0:45:18.360 So you know, it was interesting though, because I was 0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:21.880 probably about ten, and you know, but I was hanging out. 0:45:21.920 --> 0:45:23.680 Ever ever was hanging out, and it was just like 0:45:23.920 --> 0:45:26.720 lots going on, you know, we were like little adults. 0:45:26.920 --> 0:45:28.759 And we were rapping and that body wrap my brother 0:45:28.880 --> 0:45:29.680 rapped and everybody. 0:45:30.120 --> 0:45:31.840 I remember the first time I seen him rap and 0:45:31.920 --> 0:45:33.239 he was just like I don't know what he was saying, 0:45:33.280 --> 0:45:36.080 but I remember the word was like get off my ballsack. 0:45:35.640 --> 0:45:36.319 And everybody's like. 0:45:39.000 --> 0:45:39.279 I was like. 0:45:41.040 --> 0:45:44.759 Fishbowl and I was like, yo, that was dope. And 0:45:44.880 --> 0:45:47.160 I started like, actually I wanted to rap, and he 0:45:47.160 --> 0:45:48.279 started writing my wraps for me. 0:45:48.560 --> 0:45:48.879 My brother. 0:45:49.400 --> 0:45:50.920 He wrote me like two or three raps and they 0:45:50.920 --> 0:45:52.719 were dope and I would spit them and then people 0:45:52.760 --> 0:45:54.520 were like that sound good, but your brother wrote it. 0:45:54.480 --> 0:45:56.480 And I was like, do you remember any of those? 0:45:57.160 --> 0:45:57.319 Nah? 0:45:57.560 --> 0:45:57.759 Man? 0:45:57.880 --> 0:46:01.040 I mean, I remember my early raps that I began 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:05.240 to write, like I think I don't remember anything he wrote. 0:46:05.040 --> 0:46:07.600 Because I was too young. But I quickly got out 0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:07.759 of that. 0:46:07.880 --> 0:46:09.920 I just started stealing his raps what I was permission 0:46:10.520 --> 0:46:13.520 and like rewriting him like you know what I'm saying, 0:46:13.520 --> 0:46:15.960 because that's how I was getting my templates. And then 0:46:16.440 --> 0:46:18.200 I moved to a better neighborhood because it was real 0:46:18.280 --> 0:46:20.480 violent in that neighborhood. So it was like shooting all 0:46:20.520 --> 0:46:23.040 the time at robberies and everybody was fighting. I had 0:46:23.040 --> 0:46:25.160 so many fights, Like by that time, it was crazy. 0:46:25.280 --> 0:46:26.000 This is the Bronx. 0:46:26.200 --> 0:46:28.480 Yeah, yeah, this is the Bronx. So it was just 0:46:28.560 --> 0:46:31.040 a crazy time. So my mom was just trying to 0:46:31.120 --> 0:46:33.000 like get us away from there, so she moved us 0:46:33.080 --> 0:46:34.600 uptown to the Bronx. 0:46:34.719 --> 0:46:35.520 It was a little bit better. 0:46:35.960 --> 0:46:37.960 These kids weren't as wild as the kids I grew 0:46:38.040 --> 0:46:41.800 up with earlier, the little adults that when we were with. 0:46:41.920 --> 0:46:44.279 These were actual children. Their parents really like were in 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.680 there and like, so when I moved uptown, wasn't nobody 0:46:47.760 --> 0:46:48.480 really rapping like that. 0:46:49.160 --> 0:46:51.960 So I kind of like just chilled. I was like twelve, 0:46:52.120 --> 0:46:54.440 and I was just like trying to focus on like school. 0:46:54.960 --> 0:46:57.560 But I was started writing like songs, okay, and these 0:46:57.600 --> 0:46:59.600 were singing songs now yeah, yeah. 0:46:59.560 --> 0:47:02.600 Yeah, because because Montel Jordan came out with this is 0:47:02.680 --> 0:47:08.520 how We do It. And when it came out, I 0:47:08.760 --> 0:47:11.960 just got transferred to this new school. So you know, 0:47:12.280 --> 0:47:14.520 I didn't know anybody really in my class. And I'm 0:47:14.560 --> 0:47:17.279 sitting there and I remember hearing the song and I 0:47:17.360 --> 0:47:19.920 just was in this class and I go, this is 0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:20.560 all we do. 0:47:23.000 --> 0:47:25.040 And the thing that everybody loved the best was out 0:47:25.040 --> 0:47:30.080 of there shine and everybody in class. 0:47:30.120 --> 0:47:34.759 I was like yo, and I was saying every day 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:35.080 that was like. 0:47:37.840 --> 0:47:40.160 Saying. So after a while, I was just like I 0:47:40.239 --> 0:47:43.440 became that musical person. Everybody's like, yo, you funny musical. 0:47:43.560 --> 0:47:44.640 So they just called me Biggie. 0:47:45.480 --> 0:47:47.960 They yeah, man, why Biggie? 0:47:47.960 --> 0:47:49.919 Because I would rapping class and sing. 0:47:50.080 --> 0:47:52.640 And it got to a point like after the start 0:47:52.680 --> 0:47:54.080 of singing, I start being popular, you know, So I 0:47:54.120 --> 0:47:54.799 started loosening up. 0:47:55.440 --> 0:47:56.920 Just not the lunch when you come to lunch with 0:47:56.960 --> 0:47:58.759 we see me, like you know what I'm saying. 0:47:58.840 --> 0:48:02.520 We all telling everybody's like, oh oh, like Biggie, Biggie. 0:48:02.520 --> 0:48:04.960 And it was just like it was like and I 0:48:05.120 --> 0:48:07.239 was and you know what, Honestly, I was young. I 0:48:07.320 --> 0:48:09.680 was in an awkward stage. My hair was really weird, 0:48:09.840 --> 0:48:11.920 and like I was kind of fat. Yeah, I was 0:48:12.000 --> 0:48:16.760 like I'm chummy, said yeah, okay, so I sounded like biggie. 0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:17.080 I don't know. 0:48:17.719 --> 0:48:21.719 So I was reading you know you have you know, 0:48:21.840 --> 0:48:24.920 been working out and you dropped more than forty pounds. 0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:26.560 I dropped seventy five pounds. 0:48:26.640 --> 0:48:28.680 O pounds. 0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.759 Yeah, you are like. 0:48:30.920 --> 0:48:34.759 Tweeting talking about my life right now because that is 0:48:34.880 --> 0:48:36.920 my struggle because like I won't lose seventy five. 0:48:36.800 --> 0:48:42.919 Pounds, but I love real talk talk talk us through. 0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:45.160 This is a very good question that process, like how 0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:50.000 do you negotiate Well, first of all, congratulations on amazing, 0:48:50.080 --> 0:48:53.320 thank you, And how does that, you know, being in 0:48:53.400 --> 0:48:55.759 better shape working out, how do you work that into 0:48:55.840 --> 0:48:57.080 your creative time? 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.440 Like recording? Does it do your creative time? Like how 0:48:59.480 --> 0:48:59.719 does that? 0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:00.719 Oh? 0:49:00.760 --> 0:49:02.640 I wake her out every morning? Every morning I wake 0:49:02.719 --> 0:49:04.000 up and I go to the gym. It's just at 0:49:04.040 --> 0:49:05.520 this point it's part of my life. I mean, I 0:49:05.600 --> 0:49:08.279 think what happens is this. You know, when you were young, 0:49:08.440 --> 0:49:11.360 you can eat whatever you want and it doesn't affect you. 0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:13.840 You can drop pounds really easy, and it doesn't affect you. 0:49:13.920 --> 0:49:16.759 So as you get into your twenties, you begin to 0:49:17.280 --> 0:49:17.840 you still think this. 0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.040 Way, and it's not really necessarily that way. All the time. 0:49:20.160 --> 0:49:22.319 Your taoles absolutely slows down. 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:24.520 And I had gotten into a relationship and my partner 0:49:24.560 --> 0:49:27.320 can cook, and she was just like she was cooking 0:49:27.400 --> 0:49:27.840 and cooking. 0:49:27.880 --> 0:49:29.480 It was like she's putting sugar in my water. I 0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:31.200 was getting so fat. I blew up. 0:49:31.640 --> 0:49:32.120 I blew up. 0:49:32.400 --> 0:49:34.319 No, it was like she pushed on a lot. It's 0:49:34.400 --> 0:49:37.399 like it's like I blew I blew up like a tech, 0:49:37.440 --> 0:49:38.719 you know what I'm saying. I was so fat. I 0:49:38.800 --> 0:49:40.680 got to two hundred and forty pounds, you feel me. 0:49:41.160 --> 0:49:44.080 And and before that I wasn't really that big. I 0:49:44.160 --> 0:49:45.560 went through phases like blow up. 0:49:45.600 --> 0:49:48.160 I was at skinny, awkward fat stage at twelve. Then 0:49:48.200 --> 0:49:49.160 at sixteen I got hot. 0:49:49.200 --> 0:49:51.239 I thought I was a shit, you know what I'm saying. 0:49:51.680 --> 0:49:53.759 I stayed this shit until like twenty four, and then 0:49:53.760 --> 0:49:55.560 I got a relationship, got chubby again, and I just 0:49:55.640 --> 0:49:57.640 kind of went back. I got the mortgage business. When 0:49:57.640 --> 0:49:59.800 I was there, I kind of got fat. But what 0:50:00.040 --> 0:50:02.840 what ultimately led it was just just come into an 0:50:02.920 --> 0:50:04.880 understanding that A I wanted to be able to perform, 0:50:05.239 --> 0:50:07.120 and that was the main thing. Like I really love 0:50:07.200 --> 0:50:08.560 to perform, and I wanted to be able to move, 0:50:08.560 --> 0:50:10.279 and I wanted to feel good, and I wanted to 0:50:10.320 --> 0:50:10.840 fit clothes. 0:50:10.840 --> 0:50:13.720 I wanted to fit jeans. I wanted to fit designer jeans. 0:50:13.800 --> 0:50:14.880 That was really the main thing. 0:50:14.960 --> 0:50:18.120 I was like, I have to can't They don't. No, 0:50:18.320 --> 0:50:20.520 they don't make if anyway us. No, you know, like 0:50:20.760 --> 0:50:23.080 you would think that you know, I could fit a 0:50:23.200 --> 0:50:23.920 man's pants. 0:50:24.280 --> 0:50:24.320 No. 0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:27.080 Yeah, yeah, they just like they don't make them. So 0:50:27.160 --> 0:50:28.320 I was like, you know what, I want to be 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.239 able to perform, I want to look great. I want 0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.080 to buy clothes. I wasn't buying clothes. I was just 0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:33.680 like buying T shirts and stuff. And I wanted to 0:50:33.800 --> 0:50:36.440 just feel good. And it's the best antidepressant that there is, 0:50:36.560 --> 0:50:38.560 you know, like they're just working when you know you 0:50:38.600 --> 0:50:41.359 feel good and you're healthy, like nothing can get you down. 0:50:41.440 --> 0:50:43.080 You don't even have the money, but you feel good 0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:46.680 about yourself. It was just a dedication. And what the 0:50:46.760 --> 0:50:48.279 first thing you have to realize when it comes to 0:50:48.320 --> 0:50:51.480 losing weight is that it's a lifestyle change. But it's 0:50:51.560 --> 0:50:54.360 only like hard for a period of time. So like 0:50:54.880 --> 0:50:57.160 it took me six months to lose forty pounds to 0:50:57.239 --> 0:51:00.239 look good enough to be like, damn, I'm there to 0:51:00.400 --> 0:51:02.160 keep me going right. And from that point on, I 0:51:02.239 --> 0:51:03.880 was no longer to struggle to even go to the 0:51:03.920 --> 0:51:05.360 gym because I felt I seen the results. 0:51:05.400 --> 0:51:06.120 I want to see more. 0:51:06.920 --> 0:51:09.080 Seeing those results, was that how you got over the 0:51:09.800 --> 0:51:12.879 to keep it or to make it a more permanent. 0:51:12.600 --> 0:51:12.960 Part of you. 0:51:13.239 --> 0:51:15.000 No, it was permanent. From the moment I decided to 0:51:15.080 --> 0:51:16.480 do it, I was like, that's it, I'm going on 0:51:16.520 --> 0:51:18.759 a diet. I went on a diet intense, died of 0:51:18.800 --> 0:51:21.359 four ounces meet four ounces vegetables three times a day, 0:51:21.880 --> 0:51:25.040 broth and freaking two crackers a gallon of water. 0:51:25.160 --> 0:51:26.360 And that's what I had to do. 0:51:26.760 --> 0:51:29.080 And I was hungry, and I had to sit behind 0:51:29.120 --> 0:51:31.280 home sometimes a lot of the time and not drink 0:51:31.600 --> 0:51:33.040 and I went to the gym three times a day, 0:51:33.040 --> 0:51:35.959 and I went to hiking at the same same very. 0:51:35.840 --> 0:51:40.160 Strong will like to be, yeah, you ain't doing anything. 0:51:42.280 --> 0:51:44.560 If you want to, if you really think about it, 0:51:45.000 --> 0:51:47.080 you only had I only had to do that for 0:51:47.239 --> 0:51:49.640 like six months to a year, and then Now it's 0:51:49.719 --> 0:51:52.239 like I told through I would go based out on 0:51:52.320 --> 0:51:54.640 the milk, I'll gains. I gave twenty pounds on the left, 0:51:55.080 --> 0:51:59.399 you know what I'm saying. But when I twenty pound, 0:51:59.400 --> 0:52:00.719 I come home, I get a skin like, damn, you 0:52:00.800 --> 0:52:02.720 messed up. Come on, all right, now it's salad. 0:52:02.760 --> 0:52:04.640 It's salad. It's easier to go back. 0:52:05.080 --> 0:52:06.680 So it's just like it's like it's like a small 0:52:06.680 --> 0:52:09.000 period of time for you to change your whole entire life. 0:52:09.320 --> 0:52:11.959 But once you do it for one year, six months, 0:52:12.000 --> 0:52:14.840 one year, you're done, Like with the hardest part, you 0:52:14.960 --> 0:52:15.480 know how to do it. 0:52:15.560 --> 0:52:16.799 You're done, and you know what's healthy. 0:52:16.840 --> 0:52:19.400 You even like it honestly because you start to like, 0:52:19.920 --> 0:52:22.319 you like feeling like, all right, I'm not eating nothing 0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:22.799 too heavy. 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:28.640 I can't even make it this week. Let's look, I'm 0:52:28.680 --> 0:52:32.000 sitting down, man, I'm wearing back gym visit. 0:52:32.120 --> 0:52:32.680 You know what I'm saying. 0:52:33.000 --> 0:52:35.319 Three gym visits a week from being what you want. 0:52:35.320 --> 0:52:38.040 It's not about food for you really, because you're small. 0:52:38.200 --> 0:52:40.200 It's just like when you're bigger, you're trying to lose weight. 0:52:40.320 --> 0:52:41.600 So it's like kind of a little bit more of 0:52:41.640 --> 0:52:44.640 a struggle and what you know what, that's what they say. 0:52:44.680 --> 0:52:46.359 But you know what, as a woman, I will tell 0:52:46.400 --> 0:52:46.960 you it is not. 0:52:47.480 --> 0:52:48.359 It's not talk. 0:52:49.200 --> 0:52:53.359 Wait a minute, come on. They say that men shed 0:52:53.440 --> 0:52:54.360 weight much faster. 0:52:54.600 --> 0:52:58.840 They do shed weight faster with less. We just have 0:52:58.960 --> 0:53:01.920 to do the max and we'll shed the same. So 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:02.600 basically like. 0:53:04.080 --> 0:53:07.239 Because they can because they got more tustostone and the 0:53:07.320 --> 0:53:09.480 muscle some of the things. That it will go to 0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.560 the right places. We have water and it just goes 0:53:11.600 --> 0:53:13.440 to the wrong places. So that just means that we 0:53:13.560 --> 0:53:16.080 don't cheat and we it will succeed. 0:53:16.200 --> 0:53:18.160 It's just you can't cheat. Men can cheat a little bit. 0:53:18.160 --> 0:53:19.759 I don't think the water can go to a wrong 0:53:19.880 --> 0:53:25.759 place anywhere. On a woman, I like some problem with 0:53:25.840 --> 0:53:26.160 none of that. 0:53:26.280 --> 0:53:26.879 I don't mind. 0:53:27.040 --> 0:53:28.759 You know, if you got the tiger stripes, got a 0:53:28.760 --> 0:53:30.920 little hell damage, you know, a. 0:53:30.920 --> 0:53:32.120 Couple of stretch mosses or whatever. 0:53:32.200 --> 0:53:34.319 You know, it's like, no one's perfect, and honestly, there's 0:53:34.360 --> 0:53:35.600 not the wrong stretch masses like whatever. 0:53:36.000 --> 0:53:37.680 But it's just more about how you feel. 0:53:38.000 --> 0:53:40.279 And really, honestly, you only get one body, and the 0:53:40.320 --> 0:53:42.600 older you get, the more you need that body to 0:53:42.760 --> 0:53:44.560 work the way you want it to. And if you 0:53:44.640 --> 0:53:46.239 don't work it out and you don't take care of 0:53:46.280 --> 0:53:48.400 it now, it will affect you at some points. So 0:53:48.760 --> 0:53:50.799 it's either an hour or later. The harder it gets 0:53:50.880 --> 0:53:52.399 is the older you get, it harder it gets. 0:53:52.440 --> 0:53:54.319 So anytime, the time is. 0:53:54.360 --> 0:53:58.439 Now, as this conversation is so right on time, because 0:53:58.440 --> 0:54:00.200 I've been trying to get my ass back into them, 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.359 and like I just kind of needed that push. 0:54:02.400 --> 0:54:11.080 I think we're just hard quest. I know we should 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:15.920 do a Quest Team Supreme Fit challenge, like, so, well, see. 0:54:15.760 --> 0:54:18.200 If we do this, then I actually have to follow through. 0:54:19.280 --> 0:54:20.480 We got to hold each other count. 0:54:21.560 --> 0:54:22.120 Think about it. 0:54:22.400 --> 0:54:24.920 You lose three pounds a week on a good diet, 0:54:25.040 --> 0:54:28.600 like literally drinking a gallon of water a day, eating 0:54:28.800 --> 0:54:32.040 three four ounces of chicken, four ounces of vegetable or 0:54:32.160 --> 0:54:34.719 lean meat and vegetable three times a day. And when 0:54:34.760 --> 0:54:38.880 you get hungry sometimes it's not hungry, you're thirsty. Body 0:54:38.960 --> 0:54:41.760 process is the same. And if you honestly drink. 0:54:41.560 --> 0:54:43.879 A fucking bottle of water before you eat your meal, 0:54:43.960 --> 0:54:46.279 you'll be so full by the time you're like, you 0:54:46.440 --> 0:54:47.360 just gotta eat slow. 0:54:47.440 --> 0:54:49.960 It's like all mental, bro Your stomach does not you 0:54:50.080 --> 0:54:52.759 don't need that much to survive, you don't and it's 0:54:52.920 --> 0:54:53.719 just healthy for you. 0:54:53.840 --> 0:54:54.040 It is. 0:54:54.360 --> 0:54:57.920 It is good for you, and honestly it takes you 0:54:58.000 --> 0:54:59.880 can if you want to lose twenty pounds right three 0:55:00.719 --> 0:55:01.400 nine twelve. 0:55:02.239 --> 0:55:05.760 You know, yeah, y'all doing really. 0:55:05.880 --> 0:55:09.560 I was just this in two months. 0:55:10.000 --> 0:55:11.359 But you feel what I'm saying, like, are you really 0:55:11.440 --> 0:55:13.359 really look at it? Like boom boom boom. I swear 0:55:13.440 --> 0:55:15.000 you're just it is just changing. 0:55:19.880 --> 0:55:22.480 We're sitting here with Tish. 0:55:22.880 --> 0:55:27.920 Yeah, what I'm saying Tish titrible rapper, singer, rib Cooker, 0:55:28.120 --> 0:55:33.560 extraordinary motivational speaker. She is like doing all kinds of 0:55:33.640 --> 0:55:36.880 ministry right now. This is prest Love, Supreme Opendor with 0:55:37.000 --> 0:55:39.520 broadcasting Live from the roots. Picnic Uh, I wan't talk 0:55:39.520 --> 0:55:42.920 about your newest project dedication dedicated to, Yes, who is 0:55:43.000 --> 0:55:44.040 this project dedicated to? 0:55:44.920 --> 0:55:47.920 Dedicated to is dedicated to anyone who's ever felt like, 0:55:48.080 --> 0:55:50.799 because of where they're from or their circumstances, that they 0:55:50.840 --> 0:55:53.200 could not do more or they were in a bad place. 0:55:54.520 --> 0:55:58.040 And I'm also dedicated to letting these people and everyone 0:55:58.200 --> 0:56:00.320 know that no matter what it is you want to 0:56:00.360 --> 0:56:02.360 do with your life, you can do it. You just 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:06.040 have to be dedicated to and you know, it's just 0:56:06.160 --> 0:56:09.840 a lot about the story. For me, the story just 0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.360 is is inspirational because I've been through so many things 0:56:13.400 --> 0:56:16.480 and I've still managed to be happy and be a 0:56:16.600 --> 0:56:18.440 nice person and continue. 0:56:18.040 --> 0:56:20.319 To do what I love. So I hope that inspires people. 0:56:20.440 --> 0:56:21.759 What are some of the things that you've been through 0:56:21.840 --> 0:56:23.080 that you felt oof? 0:56:23.480 --> 0:56:25.920 I mean, you know, well, first I was in a 0:56:26.000 --> 0:56:27.799 foster home when I was a kid for a few 0:56:27.880 --> 0:56:31.440 years and that sucked very badly. Lots of incidents in there, 0:56:32.120 --> 0:56:35.560 you know, lost a lot of friends to just different 0:56:35.640 --> 0:56:41.960 depths of violence, uh, drug abuse, accidents, jail, uh, my 0:56:42.080 --> 0:56:46.040 cousin got killed, and just lots of stuff happens in life. 0:56:46.080 --> 0:56:50.759 I'm sure everybody has their own hardships, but sometimes when 0:56:50.800 --> 0:56:53.560 these things happen to you, you feel like you're defeated 0:56:54.040 --> 0:56:56.320 and you think that it's over, but it's really not. 0:56:56.680 --> 0:56:59.040 So my whole point is like, one bad day doesn't 0:56:59.120 --> 0:57:01.319 make a bad month, one bad month doesn't make. 0:57:01.239 --> 0:57:01.839 A bad life. 0:57:01.880 --> 0:57:05.719 It's just like to stay happy and stay dedicated to 0:57:05.960 --> 0:57:10.560 being happy because it's free, honestly, and it's the it's 0:57:10.600 --> 0:57:12.880 the one thing that really can't no one take away 0:57:12.920 --> 0:57:15.560 from you so you can give that to yourself. 0:57:15.760 --> 0:57:18.560 Do you ever feel, uh, sometimes like being a person 0:57:19.080 --> 0:57:22.040 that like made it out of that you know, that situation, 0:57:22.160 --> 0:57:25.240 that neativity. Do you ever sometimes feel like you know 0:57:25.360 --> 0:57:27.680 survivor's guild or do you feel like the one that 0:57:28.600 --> 0:57:31.320 made Like? What is cause I have those feelings, you know, 0:57:32.160 --> 0:57:34.440 for me sometimes, But what is that like for you 0:57:34.600 --> 0:57:37.640 to know that you're one of the few, if not 0:57:37.760 --> 0:57:41.120 the only you need to escape that hardship? 0:57:41.480 --> 0:57:44.880 Well, it is definitely difficult though, and I definitely have 0:57:45.280 --> 0:57:47.680 felt that feeling. I guess more in the beginning of 0:57:48.120 --> 0:57:50.880 coming into any successes. When I was in the mortgage 0:57:50.920 --> 0:57:53.360 business and I was making money and and I was 0:57:53.440 --> 0:57:56.000 helping everybody, it still had it. It came with its 0:57:56.080 --> 0:57:58.160 feeling of damn, I wish that they were just good 0:57:58.240 --> 0:58:01.360 without me. Or and I moved to California and I've 0:58:01.360 --> 0:58:04.479 been there for five years, you know, getting the news 0:58:04.520 --> 0:58:08.480 from home that's not always feel pleasant. Yeah, but you know, 0:58:08.680 --> 0:58:13.320 ultimately everyone's life is in their hands. I have to 0:58:13.400 --> 0:58:16.640 come to terms of that. And also I'm not giving anything. 0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:19.560 I'm working so hard to achieve the things that I 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:21.919 want and I always have, and I think that that's 0:58:21.960 --> 0:58:23.840 the only thing that can get a person where they 0:58:23.880 --> 0:58:27.400 want to be. So ultimately, no, I feel like when 0:58:27.600 --> 0:58:31.680 I get these people that have things going on, or 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:34.240 I feel these feelings, or people make me feel this way, 0:58:34.320 --> 0:58:37.560 I make them feel like, well, I can help you 0:58:37.840 --> 0:58:40.520 do something. But if you're not willing to do something, 0:58:40.640 --> 0:58:43.240 and then this is on you exactly, you know, and 0:58:43.320 --> 0:58:46.080 it's not, it's not, it's it's never. 0:58:46.240 --> 0:58:47.240 It's nothing to do with me. 0:58:47.640 --> 0:58:49.960 When you say you're working so hard, what is your 0:58:50.280 --> 0:58:53.680 average day like, what does in terms of your creative processes, 0:58:53.720 --> 0:58:54.800 it's something you do every day. 0:58:56.360 --> 0:58:58.440 What is just a day in the life of tissue? 0:58:58.720 --> 0:59:02.680 Well, they very surry. It's been. It's been through cycles. 0:59:02.720 --> 0:59:04.520 So when I first got to LA, every day I 0:59:04.640 --> 0:59:07.480 was in studio sessions about three or four day I 0:59:07.600 --> 0:59:08.560 was recording. 0:59:09.920 --> 0:59:11.919 No me and time met I hop Oh. 0:59:14.240 --> 0:59:17.080 Random, you know, me and Jill Scott mad at a party, 0:59:17.400 --> 0:59:20.600 you know, just hanging out by the pool freestyling for 0:59:20.720 --> 0:59:23.680 ten hours, so just random stuff. LA is very small, 0:59:23.920 --> 0:59:26.040 the in the street. But when I first got there, 0:59:26.320 --> 0:59:28.560 I didn't know anyone. I wasn't published. I needed to 0:59:28.680 --> 0:59:30.640 make money or figure something out, so I just went 0:59:30.720 --> 0:59:32.400 to as many sessions as I could. I worked so 0:59:32.640 --> 0:59:34.720 much I would sometimes not even be able to speak, 0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:36.440 but I could sing, and I would just go record. 0:59:37.560 --> 0:59:39.520 So that was the first two years, and then the 0:59:39.600 --> 0:59:43.320 third year I spent recording this album, and days were like, uh, 0:59:43.600 --> 0:59:45.560 those days were actu Actually I was going through a 0:59:45.600 --> 0:59:49.720 lot of financial strain and I was trying to put 0:59:49.720 --> 0:59:52.160 together the record. I was still very overweight, and I 0:59:52.360 --> 0:59:54.480 was not I wasn't managed, and I was just trying 0:59:54.480 --> 0:59:55.040 to figure it out. 0:59:55.120 --> 0:59:59.439 I did three or four records every three or four months. Wow, 0:59:59.560 --> 1:00:01.680 you know. So it was interesting that period. 1:00:01.760 --> 1:00:06.160 And in twenty fourteen, I spent touring a bit and 1:00:06.600 --> 1:00:10.000 like performing much more and started spreading awareness about the album, 1:00:10.880 --> 1:00:13.320 you know, and it's just been kind of like it 1:00:13.560 --> 1:00:16.880 just changes. But right now my daily day consists of 1:00:17.000 --> 1:00:19.040 I wake up in the morning, I go to the 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:21.120 gym first thing. As soon as I wake up, I 1:00:21.200 --> 1:00:23.800 go to gym, spend about an hour there, come home 1:00:23.960 --> 1:00:29.360 and walk the dogs, and you know, just start working 1:00:29.800 --> 1:00:32.240 on the phones, you know, finding out what I have 1:00:32.320 --> 1:00:34.040 to do for the day. Right now, I'm recording a 1:00:34.080 --> 1:00:37.000 new album, so I'm doing a lot of that. And 1:00:37.040 --> 1:00:38.560 then bouncing around to performances. 1:00:38.720 --> 1:00:43.920 When you record, are you record yourself? Do you have engineers? 1:00:44.440 --> 1:00:45.080 I have Enginet. 1:00:45.160 --> 1:00:48.800 I record at Universal Studios, my publisher, and they are 1:00:48.960 --> 1:00:51.480 very supportive. They're the best publisher in the world. I 1:00:51.600 --> 1:00:54.560 think they've been great to me and they have always 1:00:54.720 --> 1:00:57.240 been behind me. So I used their studio and I 1:00:57.320 --> 1:01:00.200 have an engineer, and I have my producer friends kind 1:01:00.200 --> 1:01:01.800 of just all hang out power on the studio and 1:01:01.840 --> 1:01:03.640 I usually have ideas that I have already before I 1:01:03.720 --> 1:01:07.000 come to the studio, okay, so that we can kind 1:01:07.040 --> 1:01:09.840 of work on. And this album is just so awesome 1:01:10.040 --> 1:01:13.000 because I got dedicated to out the way. Dedicated to 1:01:13.240 --> 1:01:17.920 is the autobiography. Basically, this album is more about like 1:01:18.640 --> 1:01:22.640 what I'm doing in la or like or like love. 1:01:23.000 --> 1:01:25.160 It's gonna be much more sexual. There's a lot more 1:01:25.280 --> 1:01:27.400 going on on the second album, so I'm very excited 1:01:27.400 --> 1:01:27.720 about it. 1:01:27.760 --> 1:01:30.960 To Yeah, good to hear. 1:01:31.200 --> 1:01:32.760 I wanted to tell people the beginning. 1:01:32.800 --> 1:01:35.520 I feel like, uh, people skip steps and I don't 1:01:35.520 --> 1:01:38.680 wanna skip any So although I I was dedicated to 1:01:38.880 --> 1:01:41.920 is about how I felt from birth to maybe like 1:01:42.360 --> 1:01:45.560 in you know, early twenties. Now I'm in a whole 1:01:45.600 --> 1:01:47.680 nother place mentally, but I felt the need to make 1:01:47.720 --> 1:01:50.000 people sure people understood, like, Yo, this did not calm 1:01:50.080 --> 1:01:51.320 without this. 1:01:51.640 --> 1:01:52.400 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. 1:01:53.000 --> 1:01:54.440 It's so good to hear you say that. 1:01:54.640 --> 1:01:58.360 I have a son, My youngest w oldest son is fifteen, 1:01:58.760 --> 1:02:00.520 and he wants to do music, and I have to 1:02:00.600 --> 1:02:03.560 explain to him that. I think for kids coming up 1:02:03.640 --> 1:02:07.000 now on social media, pretty much all they're seeing is 1:02:07.240 --> 1:02:09.760 like a highlight reel, and it's trying to get them 1:02:09.800 --> 1:02:13.560 to understand that, like you're seeing a very carefully curated 1:02:13.800 --> 1:02:17.640 selection of shots from a person's life, so you'll see 1:02:18.480 --> 1:02:21.640 you know, Rick, Ross, Drake, whoever on the jet, but 1:02:21.800 --> 1:02:23.600 you don't see what it took for them to get 1:02:23.640 --> 1:02:24.960 that jet, you know what I mean. 1:02:25.120 --> 1:02:27.120 So for you to hear you say that, you take 1:02:27.160 --> 1:02:28.720 people through the whole journey and not just. 1:02:35.480 --> 1:02:37.120 Yeah and still building. 1:02:37.200 --> 1:02:41.320 There's a lot of glamorizing that happens outside of the industry. 1:02:41.400 --> 1:02:42.720 How I try not to. 1:02:42.960 --> 1:02:45.000 It's not like I'm trying to deglamorize it, but I 1:02:45.120 --> 1:02:47.360 try to be a little bit more real realistic about 1:02:47.400 --> 1:02:49.840 it because I don't want to. I don't like that 1:02:50.720 --> 1:02:53.000 all kids want to be artists and all kids want 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:55.040 to be basketball players and all kauds. When I was 1:02:55.080 --> 1:02:58.120 a kid, you know, there was various fucking professions people 1:02:58.200 --> 1:02:59.880 said about. 1:03:00.000 --> 1:03:02.280 I'm gonna be a doctor, I mean a lawyer, a 1:03:02.360 --> 1:03:05.280 fucking secretary, I mean fucking president. You know what I'm saying. Now, 1:03:05.320 --> 1:03:06.840 it's like, I'm be a rapper. I'm be a trapper. 1:03:06.840 --> 1:03:07.600 I'm gonna be a rapper. 1:03:07.600 --> 1:03:10.600 It's like and it's ridiculous, and it's like, so for me, 1:03:10.760 --> 1:03:12.640 I try to tell them, like, look, before you get 1:03:12.680 --> 1:03:14.880 all those tattoos on your face and think that you're 1:03:14.920 --> 1:03:16.880 just gonna come in here rap about nothing and you're 1:03:16.920 --> 1:03:19.680 gonna make it, Yeah, you might want to think about 1:03:19.680 --> 1:03:21.680 it because there's not any money and unless you're trying 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:23.520 to like really like these rappers. I'm know how they 1:03:23.600 --> 1:03:25.439 getting these changes. I guess they're getting them for freak, 1:03:25.520 --> 1:03:28.400 I don't know. But there's no freaking real money right 1:03:28.480 --> 1:03:31.520 now unless you really, really really are doing something. Now, 1:03:31.560 --> 1:03:34.000 there's a few that they pop up, and you know, 1:03:34.080 --> 1:03:36.720 you get your time, but if you're spending all your 1:03:36.800 --> 1:03:40.720 money foolishly, then you're you're getta be right back. And 1:03:40.840 --> 1:03:44.680 now and nowadays with the drugs being so heavily promoted 1:03:44.720 --> 1:03:47.320 in music. That's a big campaign I'm running now on 1:03:47.440 --> 1:03:49.400 my on my Instagram and social networks. 1:03:49.640 --> 1:03:51.680 I'm fighting lean. I hate Lean. 1:03:52.120 --> 1:03:55.000 I think it's I know it's synthetic heroin, and I 1:03:55.160 --> 1:03:57.760 know that it's being marketed in our communities and to 1:03:57.840 --> 1:03:59.680 our children via rap music. And I know it's no 1:03:59.720 --> 1:04:01.480 different that when crack was put on our corners in 1:04:01.480 --> 1:04:02.200 the eighties. 1:04:02.040 --> 1:04:02.880 No different whatsoever. 1:04:03.680 --> 1:04:06.520 Yeah, and it's so much worse than the eighties because 1:04:06.520 --> 1:04:09.080 at least in the eighties, no one knew. I mean, 1:04:09.080 --> 1:04:10.720 I guess it's the scene, but I guess crack was 1:04:10.840 --> 1:04:13.400 just so fucked By the nineties, you're like, don't do crack. 1:04:13.480 --> 1:04:20.200 It's like so obvious. But now it's like leid. 1:04:20.480 --> 1:04:22.400 Yeah, it was different, Like I think in the eighties 1:04:22.520 --> 1:04:27.000 and in nineties rap we celebrated the drug dealer, which 1:04:27.120 --> 1:04:29.920 I mean had its own set of dysfunctions. Anyway, that's 1:04:29.960 --> 1:04:32.360 probably as well. We celebrate the drug dealer, but now 1:04:32.440 --> 1:04:34.280 we celebrate the drug user. And I'm like, how the 1:04:34.360 --> 1:04:35.120 fuck did we get here? 1:04:35.200 --> 1:04:37.200 I mean, even then in the eighties, if you really 1:04:37.280 --> 1:04:41.040 think about it, like the biggies and the drug rappers, right, 1:04:41.200 --> 1:04:44.560 they said in retrospective points points of view, like I 1:04:44.720 --> 1:04:47.240 used to sell this, now I'm doing that, and now 1:04:47.240 --> 1:04:49.320 I used to do it. The eve motherfucker's like I'm 1:04:49.360 --> 1:04:50.560 shooting niggas to day. 1:04:53.120 --> 1:04:57.440 Right now, right now, y'all gotta break down because I'm 1:04:57.480 --> 1:04:57.840 a die. 1:04:59.360 --> 1:05:08.560 Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, horrible, Okay, we gon break that Lean. 1:05:08.640 --> 1:05:11.920 Okay for some people who made are culturally unaware listeners. 1:05:12.240 --> 1:05:17.640 Look, it's like it's horrible, okay. 1:05:18.160 --> 1:05:22.560 Lean its sizeling is a synthetic, fucking uhod substance. 1:05:23.640 --> 1:05:24.600 It's like spam. 1:05:25.080 --> 1:05:27.120 I'm glad somebody knew what ciceling was. I was like, 1:05:27.240 --> 1:05:28.800 is that Jamaican for sizzling? 1:05:35.360 --> 1:05:39.960 No, No, that's okay. So Lean is a substance. It 1:05:40.080 --> 1:05:44.600 is like coding mixed was promotouzine. It's promotzine and people 1:05:44.640 --> 1:05:45.160 will miss it. 1:05:45.360 --> 1:05:53.080 Mix it with so like this future. Yeah no, I know, 1:05:53.320 --> 1:05:53.640 I listen. 1:05:53.880 --> 1:05:54.960 It's in the music. 1:05:56.640 --> 1:05:59.120 And promoting it to children that are fourteen and fifteen. 1:05:59.240 --> 1:06:01.560 Let's just be clear. It's fucking heroin. They put it 1:06:01.640 --> 1:06:03.880 in a soda with some candy and they stir it up. 1:06:03.920 --> 1:06:06.080 They look like damn assholes and they make people think 1:06:06.120 --> 1:06:07.920 that that's cool, it's horrible. 1:06:08.360 --> 1:06:10.000 It's fucking horrible. 1:06:10.280 --> 1:06:15.520 Shout out whocame his exactly? Oh he dropped the gut. 1:06:15.680 --> 1:06:19.000 He is like vegetables and now, and you know what 1:06:20.160 --> 1:06:20.480 he is. 1:06:21.680 --> 1:06:23.840 That's his past right in front of him. That's his 1:06:24.040 --> 1:06:25.160 past right in front of him. 1:06:25.680 --> 1:06:28.120 I fucking love Gucci Man because you know what, I 1:06:28.240 --> 1:06:30.680 didn't even listen to his music. I only knew when 1:06:30.720 --> 1:06:33.040 Gucci Man's song was a very freaky girl, you know, 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:33.600 scuse me. 1:06:34.040 --> 1:06:37.120 I always was missed on a lot of that era. 1:06:37.840 --> 1:06:40.760 So you know, when I seen Gucci Man come out 1:06:40.800 --> 1:06:44.320 of jail and like, just be this amazing example of 1:06:44.480 --> 1:06:47.520 what not wanting to be in prison can do to you. 1:06:47.560 --> 1:06:49.160 Because I'm not gonna say what prison can do to you. 1:06:49.240 --> 1:06:51.120 It's not wanting to be in prison that does this 1:06:51.240 --> 1:06:52.840 to you. It's like, oh, ship, I don't want to 1:06:52.880 --> 1:06:55.880 be here, and like I'm like, thank you. And I 1:06:56.040 --> 1:06:59.760 just hope and pray that he will make music that 1:07:00.080 --> 1:07:02.640 reflects his new behavior and his new train of thought, 1:07:02.680 --> 1:07:04.400 which I think he will. And not only that, but 1:07:04.480 --> 1:07:07.520 he's also a very respective man in the business and 1:07:08.120 --> 1:07:10.560 in the street, and I hope that this will bring 1:07:10.680 --> 1:07:12.080 some light to the shit, because this shit is killing 1:07:12.120 --> 1:07:14.360 these kids. Man, they fucked up. They walking around here 1:07:14.360 --> 1:07:16.160 looking like the zombies. And I've seen it. I've seen 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.320 it too many times. I'm tired. 1:07:18.760 --> 1:07:22.240 We're broadcasting live today from the Roots Picnic in New 1:07:22.360 --> 1:07:25.240 York City. It's going down. I'm joined by three young 1:07:25.360 --> 1:07:31.160 men today. These brothers, Uh, their sound to me, it 1:07:32.160 --> 1:07:34.960 like belies their age. I listened to it, and they 1:07:35.080 --> 1:07:38.480 sound extremely polished, you know what I'm saying for their ages, 1:07:38.520 --> 1:07:40.800 way more polished than I was at fucking eighteen. My 1:07:40.920 --> 1:07:43.400 demo's eighteen didn't sound shit like what they were. My 1:07:43.480 --> 1:07:47.000 shit was actually really fucking bad. But uh, you guys 1:07:47.040 --> 1:07:52.280 are adult. Dylan Martin and Jaden, ladies, gentlemen, give a 1:07:52.360 --> 1:07:56.680 big quest love supreme round of applause for the Smashing Hearts. 1:08:00.120 --> 1:08:03.880 Yeah, yeah, how y'all brother's feeling the day? 1:08:03.920 --> 1:08:04.040 Man? 1:08:04.840 --> 1:08:05.040 Yeah? 1:08:05.280 --> 1:08:05.600 Alright? 1:08:06.160 --> 1:08:06.640 So is this so? 1:08:06.840 --> 1:08:08.960 Have y'all? Have they performed performed yet? Yeah? 1:08:09.000 --> 1:08:09.760 We just got off stage. 1:08:09.800 --> 1:08:10.680 How did it go? I was? 1:08:10.720 --> 1:08:13.760 It's crazy, like, like the vibe of the crowd and 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:16.280 everything like that was awesome and especially playing like for 1:08:16.360 --> 1:08:18.479 the first time at the Roots Festival in New York. 1:08:19.680 --> 1:08:22.240 What was that so on on stage? What's the set up? 1:08:22.280 --> 1:08:22.720 Who does what? 1:08:23.800 --> 1:08:25.960 Since I I was played keys and I sing and 1:08:26.000 --> 1:08:28.719 I playing guitar and you have organ up on stage 1:08:28.760 --> 1:08:31.320 to Yeah, I had an organ today that was the 1:08:31.560 --> 1:08:32.040 B three. 1:08:33.320 --> 1:08:34.519 The good old him B three. 1:08:34.920 --> 1:08:37.040 What the preachers ring out and it's time to take collection, 1:08:37.520 --> 1:08:41.960 you know, it's time to get that money to the 1:08:42.000 --> 1:08:42.439 B three. 1:08:47.000 --> 1:08:51.760 Okay, that's what's up. Okay, So I think it's you Dylan, Yeah, 1:08:51.960 --> 1:08:57.200 Uh that I can clearly see the son of Dwayne Wiggins. 1:08:57.760 --> 1:09:04.080 Yeah, it's both many brothers. Okay, I want to talk 1:09:04.080 --> 1:09:07.240 about you guys a sound. Listen to the EP. I 1:09:07.360 --> 1:09:10.360 was pulling it up, Like I said, I mean, just 1:09:10.439 --> 1:09:13.479 stuff that sounds really really polished, and it sounds very 1:09:14.560 --> 1:09:17.439 very focused. Then it just has a lot of I 1:09:17.479 --> 1:09:20.920 don't know, it's just a lot of maturity way beyond 1:09:20.920 --> 1:09:22.000 you guys's ages. 1:09:22.720 --> 1:09:22.880 You know. 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:26.519 It just sounds very very you know, on point, and 1:09:27.160 --> 1:09:30.519 just way more focused than I was at eighteen. Uh 1:09:31.400 --> 1:09:33.599 tell me that, you know, being that you know your 1:09:33.680 --> 1:09:35.639 father was who is for those for the listeners? 1:09:36.040 --> 1:09:36.160 Uh? 1:09:36.400 --> 1:09:42.879 Their father uh Dylan and Jayden's father, Uh is Dwayne Wiggins? 1:09:43.160 --> 1:09:47.400 From Tony Tony Tony, an incredible H R and B 1:09:47.800 --> 1:09:50.439 soul group from Oakland. 1:09:52.320 --> 1:09:55.760 You know what I'm saying. Okay, I'm thinking Oakland Stroke 1:09:55.840 --> 1:09:56.000 is it? 1:09:56.840 --> 1:09:57.000 Yeah? 1:09:59.439 --> 1:10:02.120 I don't want to up de Mahamma right Domenhamma. Yeah, 1:10:02.560 --> 1:10:04.040 And that's right. 1:10:05.479 --> 1:10:09.360 So big ups, the big ups to them. So being uh, 1:10:09.479 --> 1:10:11.920 did you guys growing up like, what was that like? 1:10:12.280 --> 1:10:13.519 Was being around the music? 1:10:13.680 --> 1:10:13.720 Like? 1:10:13.840 --> 1:10:15.719 What did that play in influence? 1:10:16.080 --> 1:10:16.320 Yeah? 1:10:16.800 --> 1:10:19.280 Definitely, of course, you know where you grow up and 1:10:19.320 --> 1:10:21.360 how you grow up definitely plays an influence of what 1:10:21.439 --> 1:10:24.080 you're gonna do. So the fact that our dad and 1:10:24.479 --> 1:10:26.719 his dad before that was in the music played guitar, 1:10:26.880 --> 1:10:30.120 BLUIESH player was obviously you know we're gonna We're gonna 1:10:30.120 --> 1:10:31.160 be musicians no matter what. 1:10:31.840 --> 1:10:32.120 Wow. 1:10:32.439 --> 1:10:34.360 Yeah, I mean not like forcing, but it's just like 1:10:34.520 --> 1:10:36.320 it just came to us naturally. It's what we wanted 1:10:36.360 --> 1:10:36.519 to do. 1:10:37.040 --> 1:10:39.120 So when did you guys start playing what? 1:10:39.240 --> 1:10:39.320 They? 1:10:39.520 --> 1:10:43.560 Just I don't remember not playing, Yeah, and then we 1:10:43.560 --> 1:10:45.840 started getting lessons probably when we're like seven five. 1:10:48.160 --> 1:10:51.120 Dwayne Wig is your father Rail your uncle? Were they 1:10:51.600 --> 1:10:52.679 harder on y'all? 1:10:52.920 --> 1:10:54.840 Honestly, I didn't even really know that there was a 1:10:54.920 --> 1:10:58.320 Tony Tony Tony until like maybe around fifteen fourteen. I 1:10:58.360 --> 1:11:00.000 went to a public school and everybody. 1:10:59.680 --> 1:11:01.720 Was like, do you know where your dad is? You 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:04.280 know your I was like, yeah, I think so. 1:11:07.000 --> 1:11:07.640 But that's I mean. 1:11:07.680 --> 1:11:09.840 But that's interesting though, I you know, I was like, 1:11:09.880 --> 1:11:13.479 I said, I have a son name name Dylan, and 1:11:14.000 --> 1:11:16.599 it's it's very similar. You know your your kids, don't 1:11:17.320 --> 1:11:19.320 I mean, because you know, growing up it's just dad, 1:11:19.520 --> 1:11:21.960 Like you don't really know. I think it was the 1:11:22.000 --> 1:11:23.840 same thing my kids were younger, and it was just Okay, 1:11:23.920 --> 1:11:26.920 Daddy's going somewhere and he comes back. 1:11:26.880 --> 1:11:30.240 With money for food and that's just the extent of it. 1:11:30.840 --> 1:11:32.400 But you know what I'm saying. But then as you 1:11:32.479 --> 1:11:34.880 get older and people see it, it's like, oh, ship 1:11:34.920 --> 1:11:36.120 your dad is. It's on so and so. 1:11:37.439 --> 1:11:41.080 Were initially were they supportive of you guys like going 1:11:41.120 --> 1:11:41.679 into music? 1:11:42.439 --> 1:11:42.839 Definitely? 1:11:42.920 --> 1:11:43.080 Yeah. 1:11:43.720 --> 1:11:45.320 I wanted to be a basketball player though at first, 1:11:45.960 --> 1:11:48.320 you know, yeah, they were supporting me doing that too, 1:11:48.360 --> 1:11:49.800 like coming to all the games and like we go 1:11:49.840 --> 1:11:52.720 out to the state to do games and ship this. 1:11:52.840 --> 1:11:59.439 What's up you guys, ages, Jayden, I'm eighteen eighteen as well. 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:01.200 Martin I'm twenty. 1:12:01.640 --> 1:12:05.680 Oh wow, okay, eighteen eighteen and twenty, Dylan, twenty, What 1:12:05.760 --> 1:12:09.280 am I doing with you? What y'all making me questions 1:12:09.320 --> 1:12:13.040 about right now? So, oh my god? 1:12:13.760 --> 1:12:17.840 Eighteen and twenty And for what I understand you, Dylan, 1:12:18.720 --> 1:12:23.320 I have already your like the musical advisor or the 1:12:23.920 --> 1:12:27.080 for Insecure, wish I. 1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:32.200 Was the advisor, but okay, I'm the scoring assistant, So 1:12:32.360 --> 1:12:34.560 like coming up with the scores behind certain scenes and 1:12:34.680 --> 1:12:36.920 like change an emotion with the score. 1:12:37.760 --> 1:12:40.040 That's what I do. And that is for for for 1:12:40.120 --> 1:12:40.519 the listeners. 1:12:40.560 --> 1:12:46.000 That is for HBO's news show Insecure, featuring Easter ray 1:12:46.880 --> 1:12:50.080 of Awkward Black Girl fame from the Internet. She has 1:12:50.120 --> 1:12:53.040 a new show entitled Insecure that is out now, and 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:54.920 he what was the exact title? 1:12:55.080 --> 1:12:57.120 The scoring that's what it's labeled as. 1:12:57.280 --> 1:13:00.360 I don't even know. Yeah, that whole process is pretty easy, 1:13:00.880 --> 1:13:02.920 like because you you know how much work goes into it, 1:13:02.960 --> 1:13:04.320 and then when it comes on the screen, it just 1:13:04.360 --> 1:13:06.840 looks like so effortless, like even though a lot of 1:13:06.880 --> 1:13:09.240 things were like timed up and like we versed out 1:13:09.280 --> 1:13:11.160 and all this kind of stuff. So that's dope to 1:13:11.160 --> 1:13:13.160 see that happen and then we got a song in 1:13:13.240 --> 1:13:15.519 there too. We have a song called Girls that we 1:13:15.560 --> 1:13:18.639 haven't released that's gonna be on the show. So it's 1:13:18.720 --> 1:13:20.759 not in the first it's not in the first episode. 1:13:20.760 --> 1:13:21.720 It's gonna be in the season though. 1:13:21.760 --> 1:13:23.600 Oh okay, it's in the season. Yeah, okay, got you, 1:13:23.640 --> 1:13:25.479 got you, got you. That's it's really dope. 1:13:25.479 --> 1:13:25.639 Man. 1:13:25.760 --> 1:13:29.559 So being that y'all have accomplished more in eighteen years 1:13:29.600 --> 1:13:30.479 and most people haven't. 1:13:33.400 --> 1:13:37.360 What we're looking at you, Bill, I've accomplished some ship 1:13:40.560 --> 1:13:42.880 that the situation, No, it was it helps from him. 1:13:42.920 --> 1:13:44.880 That was you have the G, the E, the T, 1:13:46.080 --> 1:13:47.320 the films. 1:13:48.880 --> 1:13:49.519 It's hard and. 1:13:51.280 --> 1:13:51.479 Hard. 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:52.400 It looks like. 1:13:52.439 --> 1:13:55.200 You're like you said, like that ship comes easy. That's 1:13:55.280 --> 1:13:58.479 just not easy. It's very mathematical and very precise and 1:13:58.880 --> 1:13:59.880 and time. 1:14:00.280 --> 1:14:00.760 But he could do it. 1:14:01.720 --> 1:14:03.479 How much time do you guys spend on an episode? 1:14:03.760 --> 1:14:06.080 Would you say? A week? A week? 1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:09.040 Yeah, But there's a lot of changes that go into it, right, 1:14:09.240 --> 1:14:11.519 like little changes, and so then if they want to 1:14:11.600 --> 1:14:13.839 change one thing, we gotta rush back to the studio change. 1:14:13.680 --> 1:14:17.040 It before the day wow, before the day wow. 1:14:17.240 --> 1:14:17.439 Yeah. 1:14:17.760 --> 1:14:20.680 Man, So I guess. So my question where do you 1:14:20.800 --> 1:14:21.280 go from here? 1:14:21.320 --> 1:14:23.280 Like, what do you guys see yourselves on the next cause, 1:14:23.320 --> 1:14:27.040 I mean, honestly, what you're doing now is generally thought of, 1:14:27.160 --> 1:14:28.200 I mean just working the music. 1:14:28.560 --> 1:14:30.000 That's goals, and that's like. 1:14:30.120 --> 1:14:32.719 Kind of like the form and grill of most musicians, 1:14:32.880 --> 1:14:35.200 Like they hope to get to the point where you're 1:14:35.280 --> 1:14:35.760 doing now. 1:14:36.280 --> 1:14:39.639 So what is the next step for you? Guys? 1:14:39.880 --> 1:14:42.000 We're gonna keep taking it day by day. It's like, 1:14:42.680 --> 1:14:45.280 because everything we've done so far, we haven't really planned out. 1:14:45.360 --> 1:14:47.360 It's just like we've been following what we wanna do 1:14:47.400 --> 1:14:50.040 and it just happened. So we just gonna keep following 1:14:50.120 --> 1:14:50.840 that and see what happens. 1:14:51.280 --> 1:14:54.759 Has has your dad is he giving you any advice 1:14:54.880 --> 1:14:57.000 in terms of okay, so let me tell you what 1:14:57.200 --> 1:14:57.519 not to do? 1:14:58.040 --> 1:14:59.760 Like what what has that been? 1:15:00.400 --> 1:15:00.920 Sometimes? 1:15:01.000 --> 1:15:04.000 Yeah, they're like my Ray, I mean my dad and 1:15:04.160 --> 1:15:07.040 Uncle Ray are both like they give their opinions a 1:15:07.080 --> 1:15:09.599 lot and they have no no filter. 1:15:10.000 --> 1:15:13.519 Fil that sounds sloppy, so. 1:15:13.560 --> 1:15:16.000 What they I mean, as much as you get shipped, 1:15:16.120 --> 1:15:18.439 you know, without like what what what's some of the 1:15:18.680 --> 1:15:20.640 Uncle Ray and and Pops. 1:15:20.439 --> 1:15:23.599 Well, Ray called Martin the weakest link of our band. 1:15:29.200 --> 1:15:31.000 You could say a bunch of ships. 1:15:33.200 --> 1:15:34.080 Said the whole time. 1:15:34.840 --> 1:15:35.800 I had to call him out. 1:15:35.920 --> 1:15:37.680 He said that on the first week, like when we 1:15:37.720 --> 1:15:40.240 started rehearsing at his studio, and then now he's like, 1:15:41.000 --> 1:15:42.040 Martin tearing that ship up. 1:15:44.280 --> 1:15:47.439 The baby was just trying to lot to fire. That's 1:15:47.479 --> 1:15:47.880 what it was. 1:15:48.680 --> 1:15:50.320 That's what he said. He was like, watch him come back. 1:15:50.920 --> 1:15:53.680 But but Martin, you're the drummer, right, so like do 1:15:53.760 --> 1:15:55.760 you what are you? Who are some of your drummer influences? 1:15:55.800 --> 1:15:57.479 I mean, you don't have to say. 1:15:57.600 --> 1:15:59.360 That, that's what I don't know. 1:15:59.400 --> 1:16:01.840 Everybody was ask that. Just listen to so many people. 1:16:01.880 --> 1:16:05.160 It's kind of hard, like everybody from like are blaky 1:16:05.320 --> 1:16:08.360 like back in the day to like Thomas Prig and 1:16:08.439 --> 1:16:11.040 you feel me like, like a lot of people. 1:16:11.400 --> 1:16:13.080 That's dope, man, that's dope. 1:16:13.280 --> 1:16:14.519 Nope, you passed that test. 1:16:18.400 --> 1:16:18.559 Love. 1:16:18.560 --> 1:16:19.000 Don't worry. 1:16:21.080 --> 1:16:24.320 He won't he won't be made, he won't be mad 1:16:24.360 --> 1:16:24.599 at all. 1:16:25.040 --> 1:16:28.080 Well, brothers, thank you so much for coming by. Thank 1:16:28.120 --> 1:16:28.639 you for your time. 1:16:28.680 --> 1:16:31.280 I know these things, doing this on a show day 1:16:31.439 --> 1:16:33.720 is like not the most fun thing to do, but 1:16:34.320 --> 1:16:36.519 you know, I'm in I'm into your music, and please 1:16:36.680 --> 1:16:38.920 just stay keep doing what you're doing, man, keep doing 1:16:38.920 --> 1:16:42.000 what you're doing, being blessed to have people in your 1:16:42.040 --> 1:16:44.120 corner that like kind of can guide you and hopefully 1:16:44.160 --> 1:16:45.800 can keep you from making a lot of mistakes that 1:16:45.840 --> 1:16:49.320 a lot of young artists make. And keep working, keep 1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:51.720 refinding your sound. And you guys are talented. Man, Thank 1:16:51.840 --> 1:16:53.000 you really appreciate that. 1:16:53.320 --> 1:16:54.720 Hey, what's up? You always question Love? 1:16:55.160 --> 1:16:55.280 Uh? 1:16:55.560 --> 1:16:59.200 And you're listening to a special roots Picnic addition of 1:16:59.360 --> 1:17:02.200 the Question Love Supreme Show. We're an hour number two 1:17:02.520 --> 1:17:03.880 of the show and I just wanted to jump in 1:17:03.960 --> 1:17:06.880 there because I wanted to make sure you guys really 1:17:06.960 --> 1:17:10.160 understood how important these two dudes coming up next are 1:17:10.320 --> 1:17:14.519 to the world of hip hop. Stretching Barbido Stretch Armstrong 1:17:14.760 --> 1:17:17.880 Babido Garcia. They hosted a radio show in New York 1:17:17.960 --> 1:17:21.840 in the nineties that fundamentally changed hip hop in our 1:17:21.920 --> 1:17:26.559 lives forever. What they would do is feature exclusive demo 1:17:26.640 --> 1:17:30.120 tapes and in studio freestyles for many unsign hip hop 1:17:30.200 --> 1:17:32.760 artists and gave them a chance to be discovered. Look, 1:17:32.800 --> 1:17:34.840 I know what you're thinking. Unsigned hip hop artists are 1:17:34.840 --> 1:17:35.559 on a radio show. 1:17:36.000 --> 1:17:36.439 Big deal? 1:17:36.520 --> 1:17:39.599 But you know it was a big deal, and there 1:17:39.680 --> 1:17:42.639 was a turning point for many artists. Here's the short 1:17:42.680 --> 1:17:44.880 list of some of the acts that were featured on 1:17:44.960 --> 1:17:48.960 the show before anyone knew who their names were, Nas 1:17:49.240 --> 1:17:55.040 Big Pun, jay Z, Busta, Rohms, Fat Joe, Cameron, dmx Wu, 1:17:55.160 --> 1:18:01.320 Tang Clan, the Fujis, teleb Kwali, Big l Notorious, Big Stretching, Barbido. 1:18:01.520 --> 1:18:04.400 Really really changed the game forever with the radio show, 1:18:04.560 --> 1:18:07.040 and it really had a huge impact on the roots, 1:18:07.400 --> 1:18:09.600 and they were important to me and any kid that 1:18:09.760 --> 1:18:12.320 loved hip hop. Uh So, I really wanted to make 1:18:12.360 --> 1:18:15.000 sure anyone listening knew how important these dudes were to 1:18:15.080 --> 1:18:19.439 hip hop. Oh and their documentary is really, really, really amazing. 1:18:20.120 --> 1:18:23.040 Check it out. Now back to the show. We're gathered 1:18:23.120 --> 1:18:34.479 here today with two luminaries, special Luminaris, gentlemen. 1:18:34.680 --> 1:18:43.880 But question, I'm like, I'm like Charlie Brown, I'm not 1:18:44.000 --> 1:18:46.040 even the star of my own Christmas. 1:18:45.640 --> 1:18:51.320 Special, the man of a million one jobs. He was 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:54.120 able to step away from the drum kit and come in. 1:18:54.400 --> 1:18:56.080 And so it's always. 1:18:56.120 --> 1:19:00.400 Because our special guest are here without without without without 1:19:00.439 --> 1:19:03.280 these two literally I don't know, I mean there, I 1:19:03.320 --> 1:19:06.000 don't know if they are the Padlof's Bell of. 1:19:08.320 --> 1:19:09.000 Hip Hop or not. 1:19:10.040 --> 1:19:13.000 But that's a new one. 1:19:13.960 --> 1:19:17.000 I'm just saying, like, you know, way back in even 1:19:17.120 --> 1:19:20.360 back before we got signed, I remember one of the 1:19:20.439 --> 1:19:24.799 first like the most exciting international things that ever happened 1:19:24.840 --> 1:19:27.719 to the Square Roots, back when we were still busking 1:19:27.840 --> 1:19:31.280 on South Street, was the fact that we got invited 1:19:32.680 --> 1:19:37.880 to play an event for Barbido. Who I guess you 1:19:38.120 --> 1:19:42.439 just recently left his def Jam post your job at 1:19:42.479 --> 1:19:45.040 Jeff Jam and you were just about to start the 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:48.000 show up at Columbia, and so that was like a 1:19:48.280 --> 1:19:52.400 big deal, like super big deal. Anyway, I think, did 1:19:52.439 --> 1:19:56.519 I just take over this introduction? Ladies and gentlemen, please 1:19:56.600 --> 1:19:59.280 welcome to the show stretch. 1:19:59.360 --> 1:20:08.479 And Bob Yeah, wait as we need it, you got it. 1:20:09.479 --> 1:20:11.680 You make it official. Thank you. 1:20:13.080 --> 1:20:14.519 I just want to I just want to start off 1:20:14.560 --> 1:20:16.679 by saying that it is one of my life goals. 1:20:17.240 --> 1:20:20.040 It's one of my life goals to be as happy 1:20:20.200 --> 1:20:24.040 one day in my life, to be as happy as Babido. 1:20:23.960 --> 1:20:28.200 Was doing the ad libs at the end and at the. 1:20:28.479 --> 1:20:28.760 End of. 1:20:31.760 --> 1:20:40.240 Really Puss and I Get and I Get lost Man. 1:20:40.760 --> 1:20:43.800 We recorded that in my credit h M F. 1:20:43.880 --> 1:20:46.720 Doom brought his sampler, and you know, there was a 1:20:46.760 --> 1:20:48.439 lot of producers at the time who used to come 1:20:48.479 --> 1:20:50.599 by stress the same thing. We you know, we both 1:20:50.680 --> 1:20:52.519 have a ton of stories of cats coming to our 1:20:52.560 --> 1:20:54.800 credit Ball Records. But dude was like, y'all, I'm going 1:20:54.840 --> 1:20:56.760 to Ball Record and I'm gonna bring my sampler and 1:20:57.400 --> 1:20:59.599 and you know, he recorded. He looped it up there 1:21:00.120 --> 1:21:01.599 and he brought the mic and he was like, yo, 1:21:01.760 --> 1:21:03.640 just say some stuff at the At the end, I 1:21:03.800 --> 1:21:05.720 was like, all right, Wow, I was thinking about you 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:08.719 know that death jam song from eighty five Russell Rush. 1:21:08.840 --> 1:21:10.400 Y yeah, cold rock stuff. 1:21:10.520 --> 1:21:13.040 Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that too when I 1:21:13.200 --> 1:21:14.240 was like doing my little. 1:21:15.479 --> 1:21:16.520 Cold rock stuff. 1:21:17.960 --> 1:21:20.760 Russell Rush did y'all do that whole record in your 1:21:20.840 --> 1:21:21.479 at your crib? No? 1:21:22.920 --> 1:21:27.880 No, no, no, just that just the rhymes like down man, y'all. 1:21:27.800 --> 1:21:31.080 Want to talk about particularly Fondalum Records, which was one 1:21:31.200 --> 1:21:33.679 of the most uniquely named. 1:21:34.320 --> 1:21:39.080 Yes, I still it was a subsidiary of Squeeze Him. 1:21:41.680 --> 1:21:45.920 Fondalum Records. Yeah, much like what a mirror I was saying, 1:21:46.360 --> 1:21:48.559 and what you guys did for his band. 1:21:48.880 --> 1:21:51.360 Uh, well, my first group, Little Brother. I remember when 1:21:51.640 --> 1:21:55.160 ab B Bennie b. I remember him telling us that 1:21:55.360 --> 1:21:56.519 y'all were playing our. 1:21:56.439 --> 1:21:59.640 Stuff, and I was like, holy ship, that was we 1:21:59.760 --> 1:22:02.640 had a ride to us like stretching bibles playing as like. 1:22:02.720 --> 1:22:03.439 That was little? 1:22:03.520 --> 1:22:03.920 Did you know? 1:22:04.400 --> 1:22:04.599 Man? 1:22:06.680 --> 1:22:10.799 What was your arrival back then? Was nearly a memory. 1:22:11.400 --> 1:22:13.160 Let me let me backtrack a little bit, just to 1:22:13.600 --> 1:22:18.000 revise quest Love's history. So the relationship between the Roots 1:22:18.080 --> 1:22:20.120 and Me and Stretches radio show actually dates back to 1:22:20.840 --> 1:22:22.560 a cat I don't remember his name right now, but 1:22:22.600 --> 1:22:24.000 he had a hip hop. 1:22:23.920 --> 1:22:27.880 Show, aj aj Sh That was my former managers, yeah 1:22:28.120 --> 1:22:28.759 on Drexel. 1:22:28.920 --> 1:22:32.360 Yeah, aj was the stretching Barbido of Philadelphia, and. 1:22:32.360 --> 1:22:36.439 I used to send them records and so from eighty 1:22:36.520 --> 1:22:38.639 nine to ninety three, Hours promotions rep at Deaf Jam. 1:22:39.000 --> 1:22:43.400 So he sent me Organics CD when it was pre 1:22:43.560 --> 1:22:45.960 released and brought it up to the show. Me and 1:22:46.000 --> 1:22:50.519 Stretch played that this is like probably I guess ninety three, yeah, 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:53.000 ninety three. And then so we had started on the 1:22:53.080 --> 1:22:56.479 radioho in nineteen ninety had been given love to plenty 1:22:57.200 --> 1:22:59.519 Philly artists that was like nothing brand new, I mean 1:23:00.120 --> 1:23:02.880 three times dough, yeah, I mean. 1:23:02.800 --> 1:23:03.800 All all all them. 1:23:04.360 --> 1:23:05.680 But but then I was. 1:23:05.800 --> 1:23:09.519 I was also hosting unsigned art the showcases at the 1:23:09.640 --> 1:23:12.040 New Yorkan Poets Cafe. Prior to that, I was doing 1:23:12.080 --> 1:23:15.080 them at the Village Gate. It was a jazz meats 1:23:15.160 --> 1:23:19.600 hip hop showcase called Bebop, which eventually became All That, 1:23:20.600 --> 1:23:24.640 and the Roots played that pre to Geffen signing. So 1:23:24.800 --> 1:23:29.080 there's a lot of organic, you know, messing of the 1:23:29.200 --> 1:23:33.519 two stretching Bob and the Roots from early early on, 1:23:33.640 --> 1:23:35.439 and then you know, as it goes on and Black 1:23:35.479 --> 1:23:38.360 Dog comes up solo, I was. 1:23:38.479 --> 1:23:41.080 I was going to add that that actual show, even 1:23:41.120 --> 1:23:44.800 though I physically wasn't there because Roselle was beatboxing. 1:23:44.880 --> 1:23:45.080 I was. 1:23:45.640 --> 1:23:52.280 I was stuck on a gospel tour, but it was 1:23:52.840 --> 1:23:59.559 it wasn't like you know, Ralph the Box of God 1:24:01.200 --> 1:24:03.760 just named Lelo Thomas. No, it wasn't that type of 1:24:03.800 --> 1:24:08.000 gospel tour like uh uh. Our bass player at Hub 1:24:08.520 --> 1:24:13.240 had a friend who did gospel music that basically toured 1:24:13.560 --> 1:24:17.439 churches like we toured nightclubs. So I just happened to 1:24:17.680 --> 1:24:21.360 you know, it was like extra money, which it's one 1:24:21.400 --> 1:24:23.960 of five hundred bucks for like two weeks of work. 1:24:24.439 --> 1:24:28.240 So I wasn't there, so Rozelle they got Rozelle to 1:24:28.320 --> 1:24:30.400 beat box the drums instead. 1:24:30.680 --> 1:24:36.400 And so I was in Oberland, Kansas and in the cornfields. 1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:41.320 And listening to them on long distance like like so 1:24:41.479 --> 1:24:43.800 you're on the phone, I'm on the phone, and uh 1:24:44.280 --> 1:24:47.200 one of my managers, Richard was on a pay phone 1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:49.960 playing playing the and. 1:24:50.240 --> 1:24:53.200 And then and they were playing know the roots were live, 1:24:53.280 --> 1:24:55.519 like oh, this was live on the show and you 1:24:55.800 --> 1:24:56.040 But it. 1:24:56.120 --> 1:25:00.040 Was that show that the an r that eventually he 1:25:00.120 --> 1:25:04.200 signed us to Geffen Well, Wendy Well, Derek Jackson, and 1:25:04.560 --> 1:25:06.200 uh the late friend. 1:25:07.479 --> 1:25:12.439 France. She just passed away, Franny. Uh, it's escaping me 1:25:12.560 --> 1:25:12.840 right now. 1:25:13.479 --> 1:25:13.920 Not the heart. 1:25:14.479 --> 1:25:15.880 Yes, she's still in my mind. 1:25:16.000 --> 1:25:18.600 Oh Spira, thank you for saying that. I don't know 1:25:18.720 --> 1:25:20.240 why the head not the art. I mean thinking of 1:25:20.280 --> 1:25:26.120 Francesca spirit. But yeah, Francesco Spira passed away, like uh 1:25:26.439 --> 1:25:29.679 like they used to work brush, Yeah, yeah, she passed 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:31.840 away like like three months ago. 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:36.479 Yeah, we used to work together when I was Yeah. 1:25:37.200 --> 1:25:44.560 But her and Derek Jackson, just because I always I 1:25:44.920 --> 1:25:46.479 always have a tendency to kill the mood. 1:25:47.080 --> 1:25:51.839 I was like a menunt another death, a total hashtag. 1:25:52.760 --> 1:25:55.320 It's thanks for coming. 1:25:57.840 --> 1:25:59.000 I'm doing so well. 1:25:59.080 --> 1:26:03.560 And sorry, we're gonna read it anyway. It was it 1:26:03.680 --> 1:26:05.160 was that show that that stretching up. 1:26:05.439 --> 1:26:10.040 Although coincidentally, coincidentally, that show was broadcast from a church 1:26:10.760 --> 1:26:13.800 really Wow for when they were redoing the station we 1:26:13.880 --> 1:26:17.000 were wk c R was in Riverside church. 1:26:17.880 --> 1:26:20.240 Matter. Yeah, so I was I was going to say that, 1:26:20.360 --> 1:26:22.160 I think that the first time that we came there. 1:26:22.640 --> 1:26:24.160 So that was a church I was coming to the 1:26:24.200 --> 1:26:24.559 whole time. 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:27.960 It was the old w r v R jazz station 1:26:29.000 --> 1:26:31.160 that we that we lived in for like just two years. 1:26:31.960 --> 1:26:34.879 Wow bugged out a little little side fact. 1:26:35.120 --> 1:26:40.320 Talk about taboos sacrilegious on a weekly basis. 1:26:42.840 --> 1:26:47.280 Guaranteed if they knew, if if if the cloth knew 1:26:47.320 --> 1:26:50.200 what was going on in their building, I don't think 1:26:50.240 --> 1:26:50.960 we would have lasted. 1:26:55.840 --> 1:26:57.840 Wait this, this is what I would always want to 1:26:57.880 --> 1:27:03.479 know from you guys. How often would you guys, because 1:27:03.560 --> 1:27:08.160 I never saw muscle at your at your radio station, 1:27:08.600 --> 1:27:11.240 Like when I would go to death Jam, there was 1:27:11.360 --> 1:27:13.400 always muscle. 1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:16.240 There's always a big security guy and and. 1:27:16.560 --> 1:27:20.160 Plexiglass, and you know that's but how often would you 1:27:20.280 --> 1:27:23.040 guys have to say the word no. 1:27:24.880 --> 1:27:25.719 To certain people? 1:27:26.080 --> 1:27:29.040 And luckily, because I was I was DJing for four 1:27:29.120 --> 1:27:31.360 hours though we didn't have commercial breaks nothing. I was 1:27:31.600 --> 1:27:33.040 I was DJing the show. 1:27:33.160 --> 1:27:35.800 So this guy, damn Freddy Fox, I don't hear the 1:27:35.840 --> 1:27:39.120 phone ring? How does that work? 1:27:40.760 --> 1:27:40.800 No? 1:27:40.880 --> 1:27:43.360 I mean, you know, the muscle was the brilliance of 1:27:43.439 --> 1:27:47.600 our show. So luckily, like n of the cats in 1:27:47.640 --> 1:27:50.160 the world like so much respect for us and didn't 1:27:50.160 --> 1:27:52.200 want to cross us, you know. But there was definitely 1:27:52.240 --> 1:27:56.000 some incidences of defacing property at the station when when 1:27:56.120 --> 1:27:57.760 I was at the door and we're like, yo, I'm sorry, 1:27:57.800 --> 1:28:00.400 I can't let all thirty of you in the studio 1:28:00.560 --> 1:28:02.960 because we don't know you and we've never. 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:03.280 Heard of you. 1:28:03.520 --> 1:28:06.080 And we had quality control about who will get on 1:28:06.120 --> 1:28:08.680 a mic, so you know, everyone wants to be on 1:28:09.200 --> 1:28:11.600 because they knew that death could be the step to 1:28:11.640 --> 1:28:14.280 get and signed or to getting you know, if you're 1:28:14.320 --> 1:28:17.200 assigned to step to get in love and recond sales 1:28:17.200 --> 1:28:17.479 and all that. 1:28:17.600 --> 1:28:20.760 But one time it's a group on step Son Bill 1:28:20.840 --> 1:28:22.400 Stephanie's label and. 1:28:22.439 --> 1:28:26.040 They had likes No, it was like no that soul, 1:28:26.320 --> 1:28:27.040 but oh. 1:28:27.240 --> 1:28:33.680 They had stop it, no trouble man. One time they 1:28:33.760 --> 1:28:35.920 came to Philly to a j Shin showed like. 1:28:36.240 --> 1:28:40.840 Fifty deep, like five van loads deep, and I was like, 1:28:41.680 --> 1:28:43.559 how does per diem working that situation? 1:28:45.600 --> 1:28:50.040 So yeah, like who had the biggest crew that would 1:28:50.080 --> 1:28:52.640 show up? Well? 1:28:52.720 --> 1:28:56.640 Actually, so little little background history for those who have 1:28:57.240 --> 1:29:00.160 seen Me and Stretches documentary title Stretch the by Beat 1:29:00.160 --> 1:29:02.280 the Radio to Change Lives. There's a moment in the 1:29:02.320 --> 1:29:05.120 film where we're discussing the Wou Tang moment, the wolf 1:29:05.120 --> 1:29:06.920 Tang incident where they showed up thirty deep. 1:29:06.800 --> 1:29:13.519 To I never knew she worked there. She worked there 1:29:15.320 --> 1:29:18.400 as the vibe better there. That did not like the Roots. 1:29:19.160 --> 1:29:21.200 You got to see the movie. I've seen the movie. 1:29:21.840 --> 1:29:25.040 It's not even so so stop stop stop it. 1:29:25.960 --> 1:29:30.040 I got over it. I saw the movie. But I'm 1:29:30.040 --> 1:29:31.400 a little salty that you know. 1:29:32.200 --> 1:29:32.400 See. 1:29:32.479 --> 1:29:35.080 The thing was me and tu Rika held to show 1:29:35.160 --> 1:29:39.240 up such a high honor that we thought that everybody 1:29:39.320 --> 1:29:42.160 that came on that show freestyle their ass off. We 1:29:42.200 --> 1:29:46.400 didn't know they were doing deep Cut album, so our 1:29:46.439 --> 1:29:49.040 standard was like, yo, we have to be as good 1:29:49.240 --> 1:29:52.880 as so that's why would just train himself like a 1:29:52.920 --> 1:29:55.080 boxer freestyle And. 1:29:55.200 --> 1:29:59.479 So to find out that it wasn't that that, it 1:29:59.600 --> 1:29:59.960 wasn't there. 1:30:00.280 --> 1:30:02.280 No, I just you know, that's what you had to 1:30:02.320 --> 1:30:03.320 get over to see. 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:08.640 For some reason, the communication was down. We you know, 1:30:08.720 --> 1:30:10.280 I'm in like every music documentary. 1:30:10.479 --> 1:30:14.360 Yeah, and for the stretching. 1:30:16.960 --> 1:30:19.880 And you you were invited. We can we can show proof. 1:30:20.000 --> 1:30:22.080 Yeah, I know, I know. Why didn't you? 1:30:22.120 --> 1:30:24.240 Why didn't you make I gave Zarah a week off. 1:30:26.200 --> 1:30:27.240 Blame it on the assistant. 1:30:27.439 --> 1:30:29.200 That's why she's not in here right now. She ran out. 1:30:32.680 --> 1:30:34.880 Anyway, My point was that, yeah, I didn't know that 1:30:35.000 --> 1:30:39.599 Meme Valdez actually worked out uh Uhi station. 1:30:39.720 --> 1:30:42.040 So anyway, so so going back, there's a little trick 1:30:42.160 --> 1:30:45.439 in filmmaking that. So there's a lot of moments in 1:30:45.479 --> 1:30:48.519 our film where we had no video footage of, including 1:30:48.560 --> 1:30:51.519 the Wu Tang moment. So we actually used footage of 1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:53.600 the Trouble Neck brothers walking through the. 1:30:53.760 --> 1:30:56.639 Entrance as the b roll. 1:30:58.200 --> 1:30:59.280 And cut that with with. 1:30:59.479 --> 1:31:03.000 Footage of the artifacts showing up to the station door 1:31:03.160 --> 1:31:05.160 and the b rope because you could just see silhouettes 1:31:05.200 --> 1:31:05.519 of people. 1:31:05.600 --> 1:31:11.000 It's the same thing, but. 1:31:11.040 --> 1:31:13.920 Trouble Mike get to get to vote for for biggest crew. 1:31:14.120 --> 1:31:19.599 Yes, I can tested that they were large building surrounded. 1:31:19.720 --> 1:31:21.599 I think they're still trying to do you out. 1:31:23.000 --> 1:31:26.040 That brothers and artifacts in the tank scene? 1:31:26.080 --> 1:31:29.599 I didn't yet cheating, I knew I knew was artifacts. 1:31:29.600 --> 1:31:33.360 I see you walking in can I interviewer question? Okay, 1:31:33.439 --> 1:31:35.360 who was the artist that came to see y'all? Who 1:31:35.360 --> 1:31:39.320 you You appreciate their presence, you respected them, But the 1:31:39.439 --> 1:31:40.800 interview process was kind of like. 1:31:40.960 --> 1:31:43.400 Ah, it's watch be rock him? 1:31:44.200 --> 1:31:46.080 No, are you going to answer that? 1:31:46.280 --> 1:31:46.519 Really? 1:31:46.720 --> 1:31:50.080 You want to know, I'm just surprised that you would so, 1:31:50.479 --> 1:31:52.200 mister Positive, you know, well no. 1:31:52.200 --> 1:31:53.679 I mean the thing is that we didn't really interview. 1:31:54.040 --> 1:31:57.000 I mean, who was not four loquats? 1:31:57.280 --> 1:32:00.000 Like you know, I'm saying, who is disappointed? 1:32:00.160 --> 1:32:03.160 We didn't do interviews? So we artists came up to 1:32:03.200 --> 1:32:03.479 our show. 1:32:03.520 --> 1:32:05.639 We had kind of like a high standard for people ramen, 1:32:06.200 --> 1:32:09.360 so when MCS arrived, they knew that they were there 1:32:09.439 --> 1:32:12.760 for one reason. If we wound up talking, snapping whatever, 1:32:12.920 --> 1:32:15.599 that was great on top of that, But the main 1:32:15.720 --> 1:32:18.640 thing was like, okay, yo, the mic is open. You know, 1:32:19.920 --> 1:32:22.560 kick your verse and and and stretch, would you know 1:32:22.720 --> 1:32:23.920 be doing the beats and everything? 1:32:24.040 --> 1:32:27.760 So there's nobody that we really were excited about. Let 1:32:27.840 --> 1:32:29.920 us down. Really, I mean, there were you know, there 1:32:29.960 --> 1:32:33.920 were people that don't even remember. You have a Doctor 1:32:34.000 --> 1:32:38.240 Dre story, Doctor j did he was there. Yeah, he 1:32:38.280 --> 1:32:41.400 can't keep him up. That was that was lackluster when 1:32:41.760 --> 1:32:46.479 he didn't really this is probably ninety five right, It was. 1:32:49.760 --> 1:32:51.040 So he can't kill us. 1:32:51.520 --> 1:32:55.320 Steve Rifkin brought him up right, and you know, Drey 1:32:55.720 --> 1:32:58.599 even then was larger than life, right, and the post 1:32:58.880 --> 1:33:01.719 w a chronic like that Doctor Dre And he didn't 1:33:01.720 --> 1:33:04.040 really know what he was doing there. Somehow Steve, I guess, 1:33:04.080 --> 1:33:06.680 convinced him to come up and he kind of was 1:33:06.760 --> 1:33:10.920 just looking around like what is this did I don't 1:33:10.920 --> 1:33:12.880 think he really knew. I don't think he you know, 1:33:12.960 --> 1:33:15.640 he just he always you know, just he just circumvented 1:33:15.680 --> 1:33:18.040 the underground. You know, he didn't really he really did, 1:33:19.240 --> 1:33:20.719 and he was he was kind of stuff. 1:33:20.880 --> 1:33:22.960 Yeah, he didn't. He didn't really joke around with us. 1:33:23.000 --> 1:33:24.760 It's like when D'Angelo showed up to our show. 1:33:33.600 --> 1:33:37.559 No seriously, he said he said three words and went 1:33:37.560 --> 1:33:38.800 out for a cigarette break and then. 1:33:40.479 --> 1:33:41.040 Lost bet. 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:46.960 Yeah, so episode one, I promised them two thousand dollars 1:33:47.200 --> 1:33:51.000 if I could get D'Angel very reclusive, extremely late all 1:33:51.040 --> 1:33:51.600 the time to. 1:33:51.640 --> 1:33:52.719 Show up to the show. 1:33:54.600 --> 1:33:59.680 And yeah, yeah, and the angel just accidentally just came 1:33:59.760 --> 1:34:04.719 in the shat down for a bit, technically said three. 1:34:04.560 --> 1:34:05.760 Words, it's more R and B. 1:34:06.040 --> 1:34:07.200 He was like, here the headphone and. 1:34:09.840 --> 1:34:11.680 Those are the three words he said, it's more R 1:34:11.760 --> 1:34:17.559 and B. He said smoke and his sister in family 1:34:17.640 --> 1:34:19.680 matters hashtag a band the room and. 1:34:19.680 --> 1:34:23.479 Never came back. That was it. Yeah, so grand Yeah, yeah, 1:34:23.640 --> 1:34:24.519 no no money for you. 1:34:25.000 --> 1:34:29.519 Steve Rifkin also brought up Quincy Jones, who, by the way, 1:34:29.720 --> 1:34:33.639 completely got what was going on and was and sat 1:34:33.680 --> 1:34:34.479 with us for an hour. 1:34:35.000 --> 1:34:37.040 I was about to say, did he always like what what? 1:34:37.280 --> 1:34:37.320 What? 1:34:37.920 --> 1:34:39.360 Was he loquacious? Did he talk a lot? 1:34:39.760 --> 1:34:39.920 Yeah? 1:34:40.000 --> 1:34:42.240 Yeah, he was great. He had attitude. People were trying 1:34:42.240 --> 1:34:43.360 to snap on him on the phone and he was 1:34:43.400 --> 1:34:44.360 telling people to sit down. 1:34:47.120 --> 1:34:51.479 He handled it to sit down, be a phone. You 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:52.560 know what this reminds me. 1:34:53.040 --> 1:34:56.519 I think the night the night I mastered Iladulf Half Life? 1:34:56.880 --> 1:34:58.800 Did you not have back on the show once? 1:34:59.000 --> 1:35:00.320 Nor was it either? 1:35:00.680 --> 1:35:03.639 Did Mike de called the show and y'all either spoke 1:35:03.680 --> 1:35:05.640 about that, Like I turned on the radio was like 1:35:05.720 --> 1:35:06.400 five in the morning. 1:35:07.280 --> 1:35:08.800 Mike never called when when I was there. 1:35:08.800 --> 1:35:12.400 I don't recall that it was maybe m c A 1:35:12.439 --> 1:35:13.760 because m c A used to hang out. 1:35:14.680 --> 1:35:15.439 That may have happened. 1:35:15.640 --> 1:35:17.280 M used to hang out on our crib. But also 1:35:17.560 --> 1:35:19.840 the b c's sampled our show. 1:35:20.160 --> 1:35:24.840 Yeh yeah yeah, yeah, that's my ship. I'm sorry. So 1:35:24.960 --> 1:35:25.439 that was you? 1:35:26.240 --> 1:35:29.639 That that beatboxing? You tell him what was what song 1:35:30.320 --> 1:35:33.040 was that off the b c's. It was before on 1:35:33.160 --> 1:35:37.519 Hello Nasty uh on Bill, that's what you're here for. 1:35:38.479 --> 1:35:39.200 This is more fun. 1:35:39.880 --> 1:35:48.840 That's right now album now, I have to yeah, it 1:35:48.960 --> 1:35:53.439 was hello Helloa the Beastie Boys guy? 1:35:53.600 --> 1:35:54.320 Is that what I'm here? 1:35:56.120 --> 1:35:58.840 I'm happy. I'm happy to think you are because because 1:35:58.880 --> 1:36:00.839 I get that, and I'm not house. 1:36:00.800 --> 1:36:01.920 Paying in b people with knowledge. 1:36:03.400 --> 1:36:09.040 Oh wow, Stereo, you're here for Richard Field, and. 1:36:10.840 --> 1:36:11.519 You're here for t. 1:36:14.120 --> 1:36:17.240 Yo Fonte and quest Love. I want to flip this around. 1:36:17.240 --> 1:36:19.080 I want to ask y'all a question because this happens 1:36:19.080 --> 1:36:21.240 to me and Stretch. This happens to me and Stretch 1:36:21.920 --> 1:36:24.759 all the time for twenty five years, and it happens 1:36:24.800 --> 1:36:28.320 between me Legs and Tony Touch as well, all the time. 1:36:28.439 --> 1:36:31.240 And I don't think I look anything like Stretch and 1:36:31.360 --> 1:36:33.519 me and Legs don't look nothing alike except that we 1:36:33.600 --> 1:36:36.800 both bought Igua. But Yo, does that happen to you 1:36:36.880 --> 1:36:40.200 where people be like Yo ninth wonder Like Yo, the 1:36:40.280 --> 1:36:42.680 other day I'm in Harlem and this kid recognized Yo. 1:36:42.720 --> 1:36:45.200 I listen to radio show, Yo be I just I 1:36:45.360 --> 1:36:47.479 just saw the film on showtime. Yo, It's crazy your 1:36:47.560 --> 1:36:50.040 word up Beat gave me a pound of hug with 1:36:50.160 --> 1:36:51.360 my son, Like, YO, good look at Beat. 1:36:51.600 --> 1:36:56.559 He's like, all right, Stretch. Later, I'm like in Hall 1:36:56.640 --> 1:37:04.080 and come on, got white Downtown, you know uptown Stretch, 1:37:04.479 --> 1:37:06.600 Stretch has Caroline, Stretch. 1:37:06.320 --> 1:37:09.920 Has the more exciting name, like you see Stretch of 1:37:10.000 --> 1:37:13.280 Arms songs in that sort of DC comics, froont or 1:37:13.360 --> 1:37:18.639 that Marvel front. Maybe that just occasionally, yeah, because people 1:37:18.720 --> 1:37:19.599 occasionally will say. 1:37:19.520 --> 1:37:25.400 Your black thought black Stretch is bet like. 1:37:25.479 --> 1:37:28.000 Because people naturally think that I'm the leader of the reach, 1:37:28.280 --> 1:37:29.400 not the guy in the background. 1:37:29.520 --> 1:37:34.480 So but last week with nine at the opening. 1:37:34.240 --> 1:37:40.200 Of the Museum National American History and Culture, that's what 1:37:40.320 --> 1:37:45.200 you're here for, the National Museum, excuse me, the National 1:37:45.320 --> 1:37:48.479 Museum of African American and History and Culture. 1:37:49.439 --> 1:37:51.040 Say that one more time fast. 1:37:53.520 --> 1:37:54.640 African American. 1:37:59.600 --> 1:38:06.960 Was that that would be about. 1:38:10.560 --> 1:38:15.680 Yo. You know this is like say, can you can 1:38:15.720 --> 1:38:18.599 you do that quick? Quicker and quicker? Pretend it's pass over? 1:38:19.320 --> 1:38:23.800 Can we turn the air on it? It's some hot Wow. 1:38:24.400 --> 1:38:26.800 I've never I've never gotten knife before, I've never got 1:38:27.280 --> 1:38:28.120 got big knife. 1:38:28.000 --> 1:38:31.200 Got most like gets most n was chilling with me, 1:38:31.479 --> 1:38:34.559 and some people just naturally thought it was like, what's 1:38:34.600 --> 1:38:37.560 not the most death here he is? 1:38:37.680 --> 1:38:41.280 He's very angry and Knife looks like also he gets uh, well, 1:38:41.320 --> 1:38:42.240 we would joke on him. 1:38:42.520 --> 1:38:44.880 God David from Beach Street, he looks like double k. 1:38:45.560 --> 1:38:47.559 That's too obscure reference. 1:38:48.479 --> 1:38:48.840 That was like. 1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:54.920 Making the beach in the balance. What's the big deal 1:38:55.000 --> 1:38:55.880 about me? 1:38:58.920 --> 1:38:59.120 Yeah? 1:38:59.200 --> 1:39:04.800 He's Wait, who in this lifetime would be that deep 1:39:05.600 --> 1:39:07.240 for you to know that that reference? 1:39:07.479 --> 1:39:08.559 You have to know your hip hop? 1:39:08.760 --> 1:39:10.680 Yeah yeah, I mean that was like inside me. We 1:39:10.720 --> 1:39:12.000 would joke him about that ship. 1:39:12.240 --> 1:39:15.559 But I gotten knife, I've never gotten I've never getten nice, 1:39:15.600 --> 1:39:20.400 I've got big pool, I've got said entertainer before, I've 1:39:20.439 --> 1:39:25.120 got said entertainer when you do, I got said entertained. 1:39:25.600 --> 1:39:30.520 And my latest and greatest uh misnomer is Wendell Pierce. 1:39:32.200 --> 1:39:40.640 That pers don't say that you are you're I mean, 1:39:40.680 --> 1:39:44.320 not sexy, but you got that boom you know work. 1:39:44.840 --> 1:39:50.160 Craig Robinson once told me and showed me proof of 1:39:51.720 --> 1:39:54.599 the joys of him being quest loved whenever he goes 1:39:54.720 --> 1:39:59.200 like Canada. So I can say on record that Craig 1:39:59.320 --> 1:40:02.240 Robinson has enjoy being quest love more than. 1:40:02.880 --> 1:40:03.639 I ever had. 1:40:05.120 --> 1:40:07.519 That is a different thro It's just a little bit 1:40:07.560 --> 1:40:08.800 more Harvey. 1:40:09.040 --> 1:40:11.040 It's like all looks same dot com man. It's just 1:40:12.240 --> 1:40:17.280 he's up in Northern Canada, you know. But I'm like, 1:40:17.760 --> 1:40:20.840 if you're in Northern Canada, if you're in Northern Canada, like, 1:40:22.280 --> 1:40:23.839 how would you not know the office? 1:40:24.000 --> 1:40:25.760 And no quest Love? Can you tell? 1:40:25.800 --> 1:40:26.599 The air on him? 1:40:28.600 --> 1:40:29.160 Wild hot? 1:40:29.479 --> 1:40:31.080 But you guys because you laughing so hard. 1:40:32.680 --> 1:40:33.280 It is it is. 1:40:33.600 --> 1:40:34.920 Can I share something again? 1:40:35.160 --> 1:40:38.320 Yes? And we keep into the Stuarts. We're new with this. 1:40:38.439 --> 1:40:41.600 This is like, no, yo, fante, It's a pleasure to 1:40:41.640 --> 1:40:45.519 meet you. Hey because your friends with Zoe wife, Sidney 1:40:45.800 --> 1:40:49.040 from d C and bus How yo, I'm never I 1:40:49.120 --> 1:40:51.400 never knew what you look like. Now you know what 1:40:52.520 --> 1:40:57.800 I'm gonna be. I've met a bunch of times, right, 1:40:58.080 --> 1:41:01.559 but yeah, I'm a Vinyl dude. So when the records 1:41:01.600 --> 1:41:03.240 were coming out A B B. There was no artwork, 1:41:03.760 --> 1:41:05.839 and then you on Donnie's album, which. 1:41:05.680 --> 1:41:07.200 I love, Oh my god, yeah. 1:41:10.240 --> 1:41:12.760 After the color sections. 1:41:15.000 --> 1:41:17.920 I mean, you know, Foreign Exchange and you know all that. 1:41:18.360 --> 1:41:20.640 I've never knew what you look like. No photos of 1:41:20.680 --> 1:41:22.080 you on Foreign Exchange albums either. 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:25.400 Yeah, we don't really Yeah what did you think? And 1:41:25.479 --> 1:41:27.559 it's weird that him and didn't even know what they 1:41:27.640 --> 1:41:27.920 looked like. 1:41:28.600 --> 1:41:31.439 I don't know what your what your preconceived picture was. 1:41:31.560 --> 1:41:31.800 I don't. 1:41:31.840 --> 1:41:33.680 I don't think I ever had a No, I've never 1:41:33.760 --> 1:41:37.560 even had a conception of what you look like. I 1:41:37.720 --> 1:41:40.439 just my wife will telling me that you sent her 1:41:40.479 --> 1:41:42.240 funny videos off of YouTube. 1:41:46.680 --> 1:41:49.000 And her with like all ship Yeah, we would just 1:41:49.080 --> 1:41:51.519 be like we would just have threads. I can remember. 1:41:51.560 --> 1:41:53.720 It was just like it's so cold and to be 1:41:53.880 --> 1:41:56.280 that's one I feel bad about that. I was wanted 1:41:56.320 --> 1:42:00.200 people to help break that video you did. Yeah, you 1:42:00.280 --> 1:42:03.160 did a bad that. I released that scourge upon America. 1:42:04.960 --> 1:42:07.479 Fucking it was it was worth it, but nah, yeah, 1:42:07.520 --> 1:42:10.479 I was very surprised, you know, Zoe. He was telling 1:42:10.520 --> 1:42:12.840 me he was like, man, Bob like loves my record, 1:42:13.280 --> 1:42:15.920 and so I just didn't know, and I kind of 1:42:15.920 --> 1:42:17.479 want to ask you guys about that. As much as 1:42:17.560 --> 1:42:19.720 you are, as much as y'all known for like hip 1:42:19.760 --> 1:42:22.160 hop and you know, like playing all that you guys, 1:42:22.600 --> 1:42:26.479 you know, house soul like funk. 1:42:26.560 --> 1:42:29.760 I mean, where does where did all that influence come from? 1:42:29.880 --> 1:42:32.519 Like how did you guys get into that? 1:42:32.600 --> 1:42:33.439 We're getting serious? 1:42:34.439 --> 1:42:36.240 I mean, we got to keep it serious, but like 1:42:36.360 --> 1:42:38.080 I was just when I heard I mean, when Zoe 1:42:38.200 --> 1:42:40.280 called me, he was like, yo, man, He's like Bob 1:42:40.479 --> 1:42:41.360 Love Sunstorm. 1:42:41.400 --> 1:42:43.400 I was like, are you serious he was? He was 1:42:43.479 --> 1:42:45.120 like yeah, he was like man, Bob, he was hit 1:42:45.200 --> 1:42:46.559 me up. And then when he put out Man Made, 1:42:46.600 --> 1:42:49.160 he was like, yo, Zoe is for the listener. 1:42:49.240 --> 1:42:52.320 Zoe is the musical director of Foreign Exchange and our 1:42:52.439 --> 1:42:53.840 touring band keyboard player. 1:42:55.080 --> 1:42:59.680 We're in the Jefferson's Apartmentelo. 1:43:00.320 --> 1:43:04.080 Yeah, some say three more words, but Noah, he was. 1:43:04.160 --> 1:43:06.160 He was just always saying, how big of a supporter? 1:43:06.320 --> 1:43:08.080 Now, my dude, I'm gonna keep it one hundred with you. 1:43:08.280 --> 1:43:11.920 Like during the nine months of my wife's pregnancy, we 1:43:12.040 --> 1:43:15.840 used to listen to Man Made Wow, And even the 1:43:16.000 --> 1:43:19.000 night that she went into labor, we were listening to. 1:43:22.040 --> 1:43:23.360 Right now I'm just first not hearing this. 1:43:23.439 --> 1:43:26.439 No no, no, told Ois we were listening to the 1:43:26.600 --> 1:43:29.640 album as a means to, you know, just get like 1:43:29.760 --> 1:43:32.040 them Beyonce and the environment positive in the house. 1:43:32.080 --> 1:43:34.400 Every one much loved that is amazing. 1:43:35.520 --> 1:43:37.640 Are you going to share what what your son was 1:43:37.720 --> 1:43:41.240 conceived to was that the Angelo? 1:43:41.520 --> 1:43:45.680 Yeah, Percy Miracle's greatest is there? 1:43:45.680 --> 1:43:45.920 It is? 1:43:46.000 --> 1:43:49.360 But no, I mean, you know, for me, my dad 1:43:49.439 --> 1:43:51.280 was a Latin jazz musician and my mom was just 1:43:51.320 --> 1:43:55.040 heavy into all the great vocalists of the fifties and sixties. 1:43:55.120 --> 1:43:58.559 So you know, I'm born in sixty six, study piano 1:43:59.200 --> 1:44:03.719 for ten years, uh, played drums, played drums in college. 1:44:03.720 --> 1:44:05.799 I'm just thinking about the movie where a lot of people. 1:44:05.640 --> 1:44:08.720 Don't know that I was horrible, show a photo of 1:44:08.800 --> 1:44:14.080 me playing, and you know, it's just music is music. 1:44:14.360 --> 1:44:14.479 You know. 1:44:14.560 --> 1:44:16.200 We got known around the world for hip hop, but 1:44:16.600 --> 1:44:19.320 even during the nineties when we were breaking nas and 1:44:19.360 --> 1:44:22.439 Biggie and Wu Tang and you know all the you 1:44:22.479 --> 1:44:26.720 know at the crib, we were just listening to, you know, everything, 1:44:26.840 --> 1:44:30.559 Probably like in any era of my life, I probably 1:44:30.680 --> 1:44:33.120 have always listened to hip hop the least of any genre. 1:44:33.920 --> 1:44:35.760 But that's not you know, in the nineties, that's not 1:44:35.880 --> 1:44:37.200 what we were known for. But if you read my 1:44:37.280 --> 1:44:40.560 Vibe magazine con that's where all the other love for 1:44:40.960 --> 1:44:43.360 you know, other music came spilled out and people like, 1:44:43.439 --> 1:44:45.000 oh wow, you know, and then when. 1:44:44.920 --> 1:44:47.760 People yes, that's our version of. 1:44:51.640 --> 1:44:54.120 Stretch, I mean, you know, he's a I mean, he 1:44:54.160 --> 1:44:55.000 can speak for himself. 1:44:55.360 --> 1:44:56.800 Well, I mean I grew up in the house with 1:44:57.200 --> 1:45:00.040 a father that was like a classical music nut, and 1:45:00.120 --> 1:45:05.639 I was just not feeling it at all. He played violin, 1:45:05.720 --> 1:45:07.720 he made violins, but he did a lot of he 1:45:07.880 --> 1:45:10.200 he played semi pro basketball. He's a pro tennis player, 1:45:10.240 --> 1:45:12.800 like a unique renaissance man. But wait, but your uncle 1:45:12.920 --> 1:45:15.120 was a uncle was a conductor. But I have another, 1:45:15.280 --> 1:45:19.200 uh second cousin, Mike Lipskin, who's like an incredible jazz pianist. 1:45:19.280 --> 1:45:21.679 So music's in the blood. But just in New York, 1:45:21.680 --> 1:45:23.760 I had a older sister that was into disco, and 1:45:24.880 --> 1:45:27.519 but I had parents that were just super liberal and 1:45:27.600 --> 1:45:30.680 open like whatever. Like I mean, they dropped me off 1:45:30.880 --> 1:45:32.680 at the pier when I was like I couldn't have 1:45:32.720 --> 1:45:35.200 been more than thirteen years old to go see the 1:45:35.280 --> 1:45:39.920 clash and and uh, Curtis blow open for them, and 1:45:40.000 --> 1:45:43.240 I'm like thirteen, like completely, and I look back now 1:45:43.479 --> 1:45:46.160 and I actually I've seen pictures of that show and 1:45:46.240 --> 1:45:48.800 the type of people that were hanging out outside, and 1:45:48.880 --> 1:45:52.519 I'm wondering, were my parents good parents to drop me 1:45:52.600 --> 1:45:55.400 off there? Because it was it was bananas, But I mean, 1:45:55.479 --> 1:45:57.800 I'm lucky that that they were like that. But I 1:45:57.880 --> 1:45:59.400 look back and I got a question like where my 1:45:59.479 --> 1:46:05.280 parents saying yeah, but definitely having an older sister that 1:46:05.439 --> 1:46:08.360 you know, she became like a she became a punk skinhead, 1:46:08.400 --> 1:46:10.600 so like she was bringing reggae reggae records home and 1:46:11.200 --> 1:46:13.519 that's all I did. The trickle down, yeah, because she 1:46:13.640 --> 1:46:14.840 was she was only a year and a half older, 1:46:14.920 --> 1:46:17.120 but as a as a female, she matured a lot 1:46:17.160 --> 1:46:19.040 faster and she was wilding out, going to clubs and 1:46:19.640 --> 1:46:21.240 coming home like she was hanging out with the Beastie 1:46:21.280 --> 1:46:25.360 Boys Rick Rubin, like, and I'm just like soaking it all, 1:46:26.080 --> 1:46:27.680 trying to get out of the house so I can 1:46:27.800 --> 1:46:29.760 just get downtown and be in that. 1:46:30.400 --> 1:46:36.280 I was gonna say that post, uh, the post the 1:46:36.360 --> 1:46:41.000 post radio show period. Haven't seen you guys DJing a 1:46:41.080 --> 1:46:47.439 lot in New York like ninety eight ninety nine. That 1:46:47.640 --> 1:46:52.080 really opened me to the idea of breaking a lot 1:46:52.160 --> 1:46:55.040 of rules that I didn't know I guess, the idea 1:46:55.080 --> 1:46:58.320 of open format d jan I mean before before it. 1:46:58.360 --> 1:46:59.400 Was called that now. 1:46:59.560 --> 1:47:02.240 Yeah, I mean like there was one night where you 1:47:02.400 --> 1:47:07.920 just started playing just some obscure heavy metal song I 1:47:08.080 --> 1:47:10.439 never heard before. So this is before the days of 1:47:10.560 --> 1:47:14.320 sus Am so Hi's Arah, how you doing? We were 1:47:14.360 --> 1:47:16.360 talking about you theah. This is the reason why I'm 1:47:16.400 --> 1:47:21.880 not in the movie. But anyway, anyway, Yeah, I'm just 1:47:21.920 --> 1:47:25.400 saying that, yes, I know you guys' knowledge is is crazy. 1:47:25.920 --> 1:47:28.240 For those of y'all just joining, we're broadcasting Line from 1:47:28.280 --> 1:47:32.519 the Roots picnic in New York City. We really want 1:47:32.560 --> 1:47:36.920 to thank you guys for everything that you've done hip 1:47:36.960 --> 1:47:38.000 hop culture for real. 1:47:38.320 --> 1:47:38.600 Thank you. 1:47:38.720 --> 1:47:41.559 You guys have really been ambassadors just for the world, 1:47:41.640 --> 1:47:44.400 the lawge, just for for good music all the way around, 1:47:44.520 --> 1:47:47.400 and just you know, to know that y'all a fans 1:47:47.439 --> 1:47:48.560 still the music we do. 1:47:48.800 --> 1:47:50.439 Uh yeah, I can't thank you guys enough for what 1:47:50.479 --> 1:47:50.800 you've done. 1:47:50.840 --> 1:47:54.200 Siously or you as a former college radio DJ, I 1:47:54.320 --> 1:47:56.439 just want to say that basically every college radio DJ 1:47:56.560 --> 1:47:59.439 copied you guys. That's basically, you guys were the blueprint 1:47:59.560 --> 1:48:01.200 for every read everything that came after. 1:48:01.640 --> 1:48:04.840 Thank you, Thank you yo, well yo. Being here makes 1:48:04.880 --> 1:48:07.640 me remember, makes me reminisce about our own show. Gud 1:48:07.680 --> 1:48:10.200 y'all having mad fun. So thanks for having us as 1:48:10.240 --> 1:48:12.439 a guest, and thank you for all those out there. 1:48:12.520 --> 1:48:14.880 The film is called Stretching Babido Radio That Change Lives. 1:48:14.920 --> 1:48:17.360 It's available on Showtime. It's about to kick off on 1:48:17.439 --> 1:48:20.799 Netflix Public now No not really, but whatever. 1:48:24.600 --> 1:48:30.400 We ain't gonna be ont on iTunes. It's on iTunes, Vimeo, YouTube, Amazon. 1:48:30.560 --> 1:48:33.479 You could download it directly from our website Stretching Bobido 1:48:33.520 --> 1:48:33.840 dot com. 1:48:33.920 --> 1:48:37.320 It's on DVD at local barbershops to the bootleg version. 1:48:43.680 --> 1:48:44.679 Right here, I'm. 1:48:44.560 --> 1:48:46.559 Sitting in front of a young brother who I feel 1:48:46.800 --> 1:48:51.200 is uh not just EMC is a dopam just coming 1:48:51.200 --> 1:48:55.639 out of Philly. I think he simplifies, uh, the things 1:48:55.680 --> 1:48:57.840 that I look for in an MC. When I'm listening 1:48:57.880 --> 1:49:00.840 to an MC, I'm looking for wordplay. I'm looking for 1:49:01.479 --> 1:49:06.120 a command of the microphone. You know, you want charisma, 1:49:06.160 --> 1:49:09.160 you want some engagement, and you want a cat that 1:49:09.320 --> 1:49:13.120 really sounds like he's living what he's talking about you 1:49:13.200 --> 1:49:15.240 want a guy that walks it like he talks it. 1:49:15.760 --> 1:49:19.320 And uh, this young brother certainly sympathies all those things 1:49:20.040 --> 1:49:22.920 lazy and gentlemen. And he's a and he like has 1:49:22.960 --> 1:49:26.080 his hands on a lot of super entrepreneur entrepreneurial like 1:49:26.160 --> 1:49:27.280 a motherfucker. 1:49:28.560 --> 1:49:28.960 Gentlemen. 1:49:29.960 --> 1:49:32.280 Let's give it up one time for my brother, Chill Moody. 1:49:32.320 --> 1:49:32.640 What up? 1:49:35.520 --> 1:49:37.080 That means a lot. 1:49:37.560 --> 1:49:40.800 It means a lot in my top five mcs. That 1:49:40.960 --> 1:49:43.160 really means a whole lot. That you said that I 1:49:43.280 --> 1:49:44.280 was trying not to tear up. 1:49:46.320 --> 1:49:47.160 Crying in your bear. 1:49:47.640 --> 1:49:48.800 You gotta you gotta tell you. 1:49:49.000 --> 1:49:50.360 I know you're tired of me saying this to you, 1:49:50.560 --> 1:49:52.160 but they are new to they don't know. You got 1:49:52.280 --> 1:49:54.479 to tell you the story of your Roots Picnic evolution. 1:49:55.000 --> 1:49:56.960 So how you got to this stage because you are 1:49:57.000 --> 1:50:00.200 an unsigned artist still and you come from philadelph but 1:50:00.240 --> 1:50:01.240 now you're doing this New York. 1:50:01.920 --> 1:50:04.800 This is my third Roots Picnic that I've performed at. 1:50:05.360 --> 1:50:06.880 I meant to ask quest when I seen him, as 1:50:06.880 --> 1:50:08.160 it like a law that you can't do it more 1:50:08.200 --> 1:50:09.240 than once because I don't know nobody. 1:50:09.400 --> 1:50:10.400 I don't know nobody that's done it. 1:50:10.479 --> 1:50:13.120 More than once other than me and litl Uzi now 1:50:13.160 --> 1:50:15.479 because he did the one earlier this year. But I 1:50:15.600 --> 1:50:19.840 went from like legit, sneaking into the roots picnic, sneaking backstage, 1:50:20.040 --> 1:50:22.360 to you know, one year at least, getting like a 1:50:22.439 --> 1:50:26.040 general mission ticket and sneaking back stage again meeting I 1:50:26.160 --> 1:50:28.080 ran into Actually one year you were in the crowd 1:50:28.360 --> 1:50:31.920 watch it. Yeah, I think Red and Meth was on 1:50:32.000 --> 1:50:34.479 stage at that time, and I got to meet method 1:50:34.520 --> 1:50:35.040 Man that day. 1:50:36.479 --> 1:50:38.840 Yeah, it just went from from that to performing. 1:50:40.160 --> 1:50:41.840 We did the joint the two day, the first time 1:50:41.880 --> 1:50:44.600 they tried to do the two day joint, and I 1:50:44.680 --> 1:50:46.840 went on right before rock Cam and it was like 1:50:47.000 --> 1:50:51.360 a hurricane, like legit, like the craziest torrential downpour you 1:50:51.439 --> 1:50:51.960 have ever seen. 1:50:52.320 --> 1:50:53.800 And I was performing. That's when we had the tent. 1:50:54.680 --> 1:50:57.800 Everybody flooded into the tent because of the rain, and 1:50:57.880 --> 1:51:00.160 you know, escaped the rain. So I went from at 1:51:00.200 --> 1:51:02.720 that point, which was a crowd of like let's say 1:51:02.760 --> 1:51:05.720 like two thousand, to like five like that quick in 1:51:05.800 --> 1:51:08.280 the middle of my set, and I'm just looking like, yo, 1:51:08.400 --> 1:51:10.400 this is crazy. Like bill Board wrote about me and 1:51:10.640 --> 1:51:13.080 hot as hell that tips really hot. But Billboard magazine 1:51:13.120 --> 1:51:14.680 wrote about and I'm like, I'm not. I wasn't even 1:51:14.680 --> 1:51:15.400 selling music at that. 1:51:15.400 --> 1:51:16.920 Point that when the tent flooded. 1:51:17.800 --> 1:51:19.080 Oh, I don't know. That's the Daylight year. 1:51:19.600 --> 1:51:21.920 No, that was the the year Kid Cuddy didn't come. 1:51:22.880 --> 1:51:25.559 The two day train with Rock him and Kid Cuddy. 1:51:26.400 --> 1:51:28.120 I think I think Major Laser went on, and then 1:51:28.200 --> 1:51:30.640 Diplo went on in the an intent. 1:51:30.520 --> 1:51:31.400 Yeah, because I do remember. 1:51:31.439 --> 1:51:33.599 Yeah, they called it right, yeah. 1:51:33.479 --> 1:51:37.080 Oh, Diplo body and then from there did the the 1:51:37.120 --> 1:51:38.920 first year they had the ping pong and stages. I 1:51:39.000 --> 1:51:42.000 think Bronson was on that year with me on Channelle Monday, 1:51:42.080 --> 1:51:44.719 I believe. So it was like, what's this twenty sixteen? 1:51:44.760 --> 1:51:47.240 So I did twenty twelve, twenty fourteen, and now twenty 1:51:47.280 --> 1:51:48.080 seven two years. 1:51:48.160 --> 1:51:48.360 Yeah. 1:51:48.800 --> 1:51:51.479 Man, so with all that you've gotten into, we're going 1:51:51.520 --> 1:51:54.960 to get into that. So you know with your beer 1:51:55.200 --> 1:51:55.880 that you're drinking. 1:51:56.080 --> 1:51:57.160 Yeah, and thank you. 1:51:57.240 --> 1:51:59.479 By the way, nobody brought anything, but yeah. 1:51:59.360 --> 1:52:02.120 Yeah, mama, My mama told me right, she did, you 1:52:02.200 --> 1:52:03.599 come into a picnic, you gotta bring something. 1:52:03.600 --> 1:52:04.479 You gotta bring something and. 1:52:04.520 --> 1:52:10.400 Not cups, ice, bring ice, bring utensils like you people 1:52:11.080 --> 1:52:11.600 who raised you. 1:52:12.400 --> 1:52:14.000 I was, I was broke man, I was broke. 1:52:15.400 --> 1:52:17.479 Will excuse you, boss Bill. You keep it, you keep 1:52:17.520 --> 1:52:19.400 it together, so we'll excuse you for breaking cups. 1:52:20.040 --> 1:52:20.160 Uh. 1:52:20.840 --> 1:52:22.800 So with all that you have going on, you know, 1:52:22.920 --> 1:52:26.800 with the with your with your beer, Doc Street, nice things, 1:52:26.840 --> 1:52:30.400 I p A and this man has he's the Prince Beer. 1:52:30.439 --> 1:52:38.120 When I say he has, he has his own beer, 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:42.040 you gotta check that it's delicious too. I have so 1:52:42.439 --> 1:52:44.640 with with the hands, with everything that you know, you 1:52:44.760 --> 1:52:48.519 have your hands in, is it even worth signing a 1:52:48.640 --> 1:52:51.120 deal for you? Do you weigh that out at all? 1:52:51.800 --> 1:52:54.680 I mean, if somebody's listening wants to sign, it's definitely. 1:52:54.360 --> 1:52:59.439 Worth because you on your own way more than some people. 1:53:00.120 --> 1:53:00.800 Very true, very true. 1:53:00.800 --> 1:53:04.000 I don't know nobody else a rapper with a beer 1:53:04.240 --> 1:53:07.640 like like I made this beer. It's not like I'm 1:53:07.640 --> 1:53:09.960 not endorsed. I didn't get signed to some rock and 1:53:10.080 --> 1:53:12.760 you know produced, I mean endorse it or whatever. 1:53:12.760 --> 1:53:13.519 It's like I made this. 1:53:13.640 --> 1:53:16.840 I went and sat Doc Street probably like four months straight, 1:53:17.320 --> 1:53:24.000 twice a week, maybe just rigorous hours of drinking, but 1:53:24.320 --> 1:53:25.599 I'm talking like from. 1:53:25.439 --> 1:53:27.799 Like twelve to like five, like just drinking. 1:53:29.520 --> 1:53:31.680 The restaurant they put a white board up and they 1:53:31.760 --> 1:53:33.400 teaching me about you know, so I learned a lot 1:53:33.439 --> 1:53:36.120 about beer too. So like I really like got into 1:53:36.240 --> 1:53:38.240 it and got heavy into the Philly beerson We got 1:53:38.280 --> 1:53:39.600 like a crazy bear scene in Philly right now. 1:53:39.760 --> 1:53:40.840 Made you want to get into that. 1:53:42.000 --> 1:53:45.439 I mean, beer is good, really good, it's lucrative, is 1:53:45.960 --> 1:53:48.839 moving right now in the city. And I had hosted 1:53:49.280 --> 1:53:51.640 a couple events for Philly beers scene. I did the 1:53:52.880 --> 1:53:55.160 presented award the Philly Beers Scene Awards, and they have 1:53:55.240 --> 1:53:58.639 a band of brewers or Battle with Brewers where every 1:53:58.800 --> 1:54:01.080 brewery somehow when it's city for some reason, all these 1:54:01.120 --> 1:54:03.560 guys play music and so they do a Battle of 1:54:03.600 --> 1:54:05.599 the bands, but you have to work at the brewery. 1:54:07.560 --> 1:54:08.040 And they did that. 1:54:08.200 --> 1:54:09.880 Yeah, it was crazy. They did a World Cafe live 1:54:09.920 --> 1:54:10.639 and it was popping. 1:54:10.680 --> 1:54:14.679 So I hosted that and like every after every band performed, 1:54:14.720 --> 1:54:16.360 I brought a couch onto the stage and I said, 1:54:16.400 --> 1:54:18.320 and I interviewed you know the band, what do you. 1:54:18.320 --> 1:54:19.599 Think about your performance? Whatever? Whatever? 1:54:19.680 --> 1:54:21.040 What beers y'all got coming up whateverever. 1:54:21.160 --> 1:54:23.320 So doing more stuff with with the beers scene, I 1:54:23.400 --> 1:54:25.360 kept getting into it, and I'm like looking around, like 1:54:26.240 --> 1:54:28.880 hip hop's not here, like there's no hip hop here. 1:54:30.200 --> 1:54:32.000 It's not a bunch of brown in the room either, 1:54:32.080 --> 1:54:34.160 but it's really like no hip hop. I'm like, all right, 1:54:34.240 --> 1:54:36.880 I'm all about putting hip hop and places that it 1:54:36.920 --> 1:54:39.520 hasn't been. Like I'm the first artist to perform at 1:54:39.600 --> 1:54:41.560 City Hall, first hip hop artists perform at City Hall 1:54:41.560 --> 1:54:43.720 in Philly. It's been a couple since then, But I 1:54:43.760 --> 1:54:46.000 can honestly say I opened the door for that to happen. 1:54:46.160 --> 1:54:47.800 Like my mom is hyped that I can be able 1:54:47.840 --> 1:54:51.240 to say shit like that, stuff like that, but I 1:54:51.320 --> 1:54:51.760 can say it, but. 1:54:51.800 --> 1:54:55.800 I can't say ship and my mom. I was apologizing 1:54:55.840 --> 1:54:59.440 to my mom. But yeah, so I forgot your question and. 1:55:01.080 --> 1:55:06.480 Your taste good. That was a very simple answer. Tastes 1:55:06.520 --> 1:55:07.880 good and that and that's good. 1:55:07.800 --> 1:55:12.760 To damn all right, keep it simple. Hell, don't don't 1:55:12.800 --> 1:55:21.520 make it calculus when it's arithmetic is good. Don't make 1:55:21.560 --> 1:55:23.000 it calculus when it's arithmetic. 1:55:23.120 --> 1:55:27.680 Is that it original? That's original? You know, I have 1:55:30.080 --> 1:55:31.680 every now and again, I get it right every now 1:55:31.680 --> 1:55:32.560 and so. 1:55:32.840 --> 1:55:36.480 Uh So, talking about in terms of coming up in 1:55:36.760 --> 1:55:41.320 Philly just as a as an outsider, uh you know, 1:55:41.560 --> 1:55:44.760 coming up in the South, I didn't really get into 1:55:44.840 --> 1:55:49.960 the geography of rappers until I really, you know, kind 1:55:49.960 --> 1:55:54.760 of started rapping myself. So to me, everybody's from New York, 1:55:54.880 --> 1:55:57.320 like you, y'all all had accents like I couldn't imrientiate 1:55:57.440 --> 1:56:01.320 like rock him and three times and cool See and 1:56:02.000 --> 1:56:05.120 like it was all just like New York with chains 1:56:05.160 --> 1:56:07.960 on and I just love this ship that was that 1:56:08.120 --> 1:56:10.360 was just it was just one big kind of blur 1:56:11.560 --> 1:56:12.400 coming out of Philly. 1:56:13.040 --> 1:56:16.160 What was that like for you coming up? And who 1:56:16.240 --> 1:56:19.000 were your influences? Like who were you looking up to 1:56:19.080 --> 1:56:20.280 by the time you came along. 1:56:21.680 --> 1:56:24.760 There's a lot of different different answers, like coming up, Uh, 1:56:24.960 --> 1:56:26.600 you know, Cool Sea lived around the corner from me. 1:56:26.640 --> 1:56:29.360 I remember Cool Sea pulled up in the in the 1:56:29.480 --> 1:56:30.040 G wagon. 1:56:30.200 --> 1:56:32.040 No, it's like one of G money joints, like the 1:56:32.120 --> 1:56:34.200 G Money g with the with the whole everything off 1:56:34.360 --> 1:56:34.920 told everything. 1:56:38.320 --> 1:56:41.640 He hopped out and I'm actually cocaine. 1:56:44.160 --> 1:56:47.840 For your face New Jack City modern Negro classic. 1:56:47.840 --> 1:56:50.360 I'm grabbing my mom some mom some saying like one 1:56:50.440 --> 1:56:52.320 hundreds from the from the Chinese Story and I'll come 1:56:52.360 --> 1:56:53.480 out in Cool Seas right there. 1:56:53.480 --> 1:56:54.960 I'm like, oh, that's dope, Like. 1:56:54.960 --> 1:56:56.680 Can you sign these like this pack for me like this, 1:56:57.400 --> 1:57:00.040 like seeing how like he hopped out with chained on 1:57:00.120 --> 1:57:02.480 and everything, like just running the store to get probably 1:57:02.520 --> 1:57:04.840 something drinks, I don't know, but just seeing that he 1:57:05.000 --> 1:57:06.760 was just still in the hood, just doing things like chilling, 1:57:06.840 --> 1:57:08.400 like it was like, oh, I could be I could 1:57:08.400 --> 1:57:10.280 be that. And then as I got into that, and 1:57:10.280 --> 1:57:11.520 I'm like, all right, I could be more than that. 1:57:11.680 --> 1:57:13.160 Like I don't want to just be a Philly celebrity 1:57:13.160 --> 1:57:15.560 neighborhood superstar. I can be more than that. So I 1:57:15.640 --> 1:57:17.800 start seeing, you know, stuff that the Ruce was doing. 1:57:18.280 --> 1:57:21.480 You see the stuff that right now, I'm admiring stuff 1:57:21.480 --> 1:57:22.520 that like Kevin Hart's doing. 1:57:24.080 --> 1:57:24.880 Taking out of Philly. 1:57:24.920 --> 1:57:27.760 You see stuff like like that fifty always did he 1:57:28.560 --> 1:57:31.360 these people all did more than just the music. They 1:57:32.040 --> 1:57:34.400 I always say, hip hop got me here. So the 1:57:34.520 --> 1:57:37.480 music got them there, but then they expanded into something else, 1:57:37.600 --> 1:57:41.680 like Queen Latifa and Will Smith again, like just just 1:57:41.800 --> 1:57:43.480 watching them, I'm like, I want I want to be more. 1:57:43.480 --> 1:57:45.240 I want to do more than just rat But you know, 1:57:45.440 --> 1:57:47.440 I'm good at this, So I'm gonna use this to 1:57:47.520 --> 1:57:50.080 get me you know, every yeah, and get everything else. 1:57:50.080 --> 1:57:51.920 I gotta get you remember like your first rhymes, like 1:57:51.960 --> 1:57:52.720 you remember. 1:57:52.600 --> 1:57:56.880 Yes, my first first raps was in like third grade. 1:57:57.320 --> 1:58:00.480 We won this third grade talent show and then it 1:58:00.560 --> 1:58:02.360 turned into like a weekly talent show we used to 1:58:02.440 --> 1:58:05.320 have in Doctor Mason class. We had a residence and 1:58:05.440 --> 1:58:07.520 so we won every week. Then me and my guy 1:58:07.560 --> 1:58:09.560 a little smrtsial shout out a little martiall. 1:58:10.800 --> 1:58:11.240 My rap. 1:58:11.360 --> 1:58:12.720 But it was like I had like three bars. 1:58:12.720 --> 1:58:14.640 It was like, yo, back in the days, I used 1:58:14.640 --> 1:58:16.680 to hate my teachers, and everybody said I used to 1:58:16.720 --> 1:58:17.760 wear crummy sneakers. 1:58:18.320 --> 1:58:18.720 That was it. 1:58:20.000 --> 1:58:21.560 That was it, and that was third grade, and then 1:58:23.640 --> 1:58:25.160 it was something and then and that was it. 1:58:25.320 --> 1:58:28.080 Nigga. You took a couplet and stretched it into a residence. 1:58:29.160 --> 1:58:30.240 That's amazing. 1:58:31.520 --> 1:58:33.000 And I'm saying back in the days, I'm in the 1:58:33.080 --> 1:58:35.680 third grade, like a not happened before grade. 1:58:36.040 --> 1:58:38.000 It was popping. Oh man. 1:58:38.400 --> 1:58:41.720 So from those from Bristol's early you know, back in 1:58:41.760 --> 1:58:46.720 the days, my sneakers all that, from that couplet, How 1:58:46.800 --> 1:58:50.480 did you go into building songs? I know for a 1:58:50.560 --> 1:58:54.400 lot of mcs A lot of times, you know, you know, 1:58:54.560 --> 1:58:57.200 when I was coming up, it was we just wanted 1:58:57.200 --> 1:59:00.160 to rap. You know, were just like bars, right and 1:59:00.240 --> 1:59:05.480 bars and bars and raps, but rap because I'm rapping, 1:59:06.720 --> 1:59:08.160 so I'm just gonna wrap. 1:59:09.520 --> 1:59:12.480 Like after a while you're rapping about rapping, so like 1:59:12.760 --> 1:59:14.440 it's like, all right, let's make some some music. So 1:59:14.520 --> 1:59:20.840 what happened was when I started college, City Bank or something, Yeah, 1:59:20.840 --> 1:59:21.280 I did finish. 1:59:21.360 --> 1:59:22.760 When did you when you come out of colle where'd 1:59:22.760 --> 1:59:23.320 you graduate. 1:59:23.120 --> 1:59:26.040 From Millersville University? I graduated in two thousand and Who 1:59:26.040 --> 1:59:30.440 went to Miller's Bill? Yeah exactly, Sean G. 1:59:32.520 --> 1:59:34.040 Who else went up to the league? 1:59:35.240 --> 1:59:36.920 What was your public public relations? 1:59:36.960 --> 1:59:37.240 Speech? 1:59:37.240 --> 1:59:37.800 Communications? 1:59:37.840 --> 1:59:38.120 Of course? 1:59:38.600 --> 1:59:40.840 So originally it was psychology I went with I had 1:59:40.880 --> 1:59:44.160 a full academic scholarship, drank that. 1:59:44.240 --> 1:59:44.840 Away, and. 1:59:47.080 --> 1:59:49.440 It had changed my major like junior year to. 1:59:49.840 --> 1:59:51.320 It was it was psych and then I switched to 1:59:51.360 --> 1:59:52.760 pr because I'm like, yo, you only need like one 1:59:52.840 --> 1:59:54.160 hundred and seventeen credits to finishes. 1:59:54.200 --> 1:59:55.080 Let me just get out of here. 1:59:55.440 --> 1:59:59.720 But uh, when I started college, you know freshman orientation, 2:00:00.400 --> 2:00:01.520 these credit card people. 2:00:01.320 --> 2:00:02.520 Is out there, Yo, you need you need to. 2:00:04.080 --> 2:00:04.960 Discover got me? 2:00:05.240 --> 2:00:08.200 So City Bank got me on two joints one of 2:00:08.240 --> 2:00:09.200 their free T shirt, didn't he? 2:00:09.440 --> 2:00:09.560 Yo? 2:00:09.680 --> 2:00:12.480 That's what it was said college. I'm not lying, No, 2:00:12.680 --> 2:00:17.240 I know, I know college a free T shirt you 2:00:17.320 --> 2:00:17.520 can do. 2:00:18.080 --> 2:00:21.000 Yeah, so you can get anything out of collegehoot if 2:00:21.000 --> 2:00:21.920 you offer them a free T shirt. 2:00:21.960 --> 2:00:22.520 I got shirts. 2:00:22.960 --> 2:00:23.120 Bet. 2:00:25.160 --> 2:00:27.240 I went in studio equipment with the with the credit 2:00:27.280 --> 2:00:30.280 card went you know, but the mic book like Q base, 2:00:30.920 --> 2:00:33.280 cool edit and a bunch of stuff, and I I 2:00:33.320 --> 2:00:35.879 don't know any of this stuff. I'm not like musically inclined, 2:00:35.960 --> 2:00:37.040 like you know, I'm not an engine. 2:00:37.040 --> 2:00:37.320 I don't know. 2:00:37.560 --> 2:00:39.280 But I just start recording stuff and I'm like, all right, 2:00:40.200 --> 2:00:43.280 let's make songs, making records or whatever. And just seeing 2:00:43.320 --> 2:00:46.960 my family is huge, so all of them, Like I 2:00:47.280 --> 2:00:50.120 started wrap to fitting with my bigger cousins, my older cousins, 2:00:50.160 --> 2:00:51.800 Like they introduced me to Woo Tang and nas and 2:00:51.840 --> 2:00:53.320 all of that like early on, so I wanted to 2:00:53.320 --> 2:00:56.360 wrap the fit in with them. But growing up at 2:00:56.400 --> 2:00:58.120 Philly at that time when I started rapping, it was 2:00:58.200 --> 2:00:59.920 the figures was out state property. 2:00:59.680 --> 2:01:00.280 So I was happening. 2:01:00.280 --> 2:01:02.280 I bought some nonsense like I'm like I said, I 2:01:02.320 --> 2:01:05.120 had a full academic scholarship, but I'm I shot everything 2:01:05.200 --> 2:01:06.840 and killed everybody. 2:01:08.320 --> 2:01:09.360 I did all kind of stuff and. 2:01:12.200 --> 2:01:12.840 Right right. 2:01:13.400 --> 2:01:15.360 So my cousins was like, yo, it's lyrical, it's there, 2:01:15.440 --> 2:01:18.240 but that's not you tell your story. And that came with, 2:01:18.600 --> 2:01:20.760 you know, rapping as my like I had rap names. 2:01:20.800 --> 2:01:22.320 And then it was like, yo, your name's chill, like 2:01:22.360 --> 2:01:24.560 why not just be chill? Like I was like, oh yeah, 2:01:24.800 --> 2:01:27.960 soill is I've been chilled since I was six months. 2:01:28.680 --> 2:01:30.920 I've never heard nobody call me nothing. I mean I've 2:01:30.960 --> 2:01:33.040 heard people say that, but like my father's never called 2:01:33.080 --> 2:01:35.000 me nothing different. Teachers always called me chill or they 2:01:35.040 --> 2:01:36.560 called me moody. Mood is my real last names. So 2:01:37.120 --> 2:01:39.560 I've always been chill Moody. But I had like I 2:01:39.720 --> 2:01:43.080 was tagged. I was young chilled a block captain spelled 2:01:43.440 --> 2:01:44.240 young yo. 2:01:44.440 --> 2:01:46.200 I'm a spell if it was y U n G 2:01:46.480 --> 2:01:49.800 of course C H I T H A B L 2:01:49.920 --> 2:01:55.000 O kk C A P c A p t apostrophe 2:01:55.200 --> 2:01:57.160 and do not forget my posture. 2:01:57.400 --> 2:02:00.120 It's gonna be a problem. That is so like that 2:02:00.240 --> 2:02:03.320 were you were like Emerson Pop before you were the block. 2:02:03.480 --> 2:02:08.320 Anderson called street cleaning like I was young child the 2:02:08.360 --> 2:02:10.320 block and I had street cleaning, and then I had 2:02:10.360 --> 2:02:12.560 the neighborhood Watch and then I had the neighborhood watch too, 2:02:12.640 --> 2:02:13.800 and then I was like, yo'. 2:02:14.120 --> 2:02:16.440 It's so interesting that you had that name because that's 2:02:16.480 --> 2:02:19.879 such like a nineties because because the nineties rap template 2:02:20.000 --> 2:02:22.080 name was like name. 2:02:22.800 --> 2:02:30.080 The adjute, the damage head, pudgy, the fat, that's. 2:02:30.200 --> 2:02:34.320 Right right right, herald, the bilateral metaphor, I had to 2:02:34.440 --> 2:02:38.040 have like this is me and I am the adjective, 2:02:38.200 --> 2:02:39.400 this is how I do it. 2:02:39.760 --> 2:02:40.840 And then this is my time. 2:02:41.000 --> 2:02:44.280 JT, the bigger JT, the bigger just the figure, the 2:02:44.320 --> 2:02:48.640 bigger I'm the bigger fie the larger one greadom statue 2:02:49.360 --> 2:02:55.000 than yours. Wow, but that's real though. When you made 2:02:55.040 --> 2:02:56.720 that shift from you know, I made. 2:02:56.600 --> 2:02:58.920 That shift and also made the shift in the lyrics 2:02:58.960 --> 2:03:00.120 like all right, let me tell my story. This is 2:03:00.200 --> 2:03:02.280 shill movie, this is who I am. I'm a Philly guy. 2:03:02.400 --> 2:03:04.360 Let's let's you know how was that? 2:03:04.640 --> 2:03:07.040 What was what was that story? What did you what 2:03:07.160 --> 2:03:08.000 did you want to come up? 2:03:08.080 --> 2:03:10.120 What did you want to above all those It's like, yo, 2:03:10.200 --> 2:03:12.120 I wraped like better than your Like I just want 2:03:12.160 --> 2:03:15.280 to like it, like express that and like really be 2:03:15.400 --> 2:03:18.080 like on my you know, this is me and you 2:03:18.160 --> 2:03:20.840 know it's lyrical like I ain't got a lie and 2:03:21.000 --> 2:03:22.840 be lyrical, like it's lyrical at first, but it's like no, 2:03:23.080 --> 2:03:24.720 like I can I can just tell my story. So 2:03:24.760 --> 2:03:28.240 it's like big family oriented guy. Like I said, my 2:03:28.280 --> 2:03:30.600 family is huge. I can walk to like probably like 2:03:30.720 --> 2:03:34.400 twelve family members houses from from outside. Yeah we're all 2:03:35.280 --> 2:03:38.360 from yeah, shout at school my guy. 2:03:38.840 --> 2:03:43.440 Yeah schoolly d. We had an interesting, uh interesting night 2:03:43.520 --> 2:03:45.160 with him one time playing the rout show. 2:03:45.600 --> 2:03:49.440 It was I think it was interesting bring the fell? 2:03:50.360 --> 2:03:53.760 Did he bring thea? He didn't bring the feather board? 2:03:54.040 --> 2:03:56.080 He he it was boy boy. 2:03:56.560 --> 2:03:59.400 This was like man, he like you know, this was 2:04:00.200 --> 2:04:01.000 got five. 2:04:01.320 --> 2:04:05.800 Something I can't remember, and he was doing a mirror 2:04:05.920 --> 2:04:08.920 was playing I'll never forget this. And just to see 2:04:09.000 --> 2:04:12.280 the sheer look of terror on a mirror's face when 2:04:12.360 --> 2:04:15.600 schooly wouldn't leave the stage, man, that is hilarious. 2:04:15.600 --> 2:04:17.800 I don't think it's one person in music that doesn't 2:04:17.840 --> 2:04:20.720 have a schooly D story like that. Guy is epic, 2:04:20.960 --> 2:04:23.320 like and then his stories are even more epic than 2:04:23.400 --> 2:04:25.280 anything you could say, like he like so it. 2:04:25.360 --> 2:04:27.160 Was me, prince, what's the story? 2:04:27.200 --> 2:04:27.520 Told us? 2:04:29.920 --> 2:04:32.080 Donald was there, but anyway, let me he's telling me 2:04:32.120 --> 2:04:34.280 about like the sneakers he had on that's the point 2:04:34.320 --> 2:04:37.440 of the story. Like, but yeah, so Prince is over there, 2:04:37.440 --> 2:04:41.000 he's doing his ship whatever. But the sneakers like like, 2:04:41.120 --> 2:04:43.200 but you're just gonna buy press the fact that Prince 2:04:43.320 --> 2:04:45.720 with Donald's over there, like yeah, they always stay with whatever, 2:04:45.840 --> 2:04:47.760 like school, he's a homie. He been to the house 2:04:47.840 --> 2:04:50.520 like he like come to the cookouts and stuff, my 2:04:50.600 --> 2:04:51.360 mom graving stuff. 2:04:51.400 --> 2:04:53.280 But another MC. 2:04:53.440 --> 2:04:56.240 I'm always fascinated by mcs who take and then do 2:04:56.360 --> 2:04:57.720 other great things with them. 2:04:59.080 --> 2:04:59.920 Adult swim carts. 2:05:01.160 --> 2:05:03.560 He painting now, like or he got back into the art. 2:05:04.000 --> 2:05:06.720 He just did these converts like the what's the first 2:05:06.760 --> 2:05:07.000 album s? 2:05:07.400 --> 2:05:10.720 Not Saturdaynight? You know the album he drew is the 2:05:11.160 --> 2:05:12.320 Yellow And yeah. 2:05:13.760 --> 2:05:17.600 He did some converse that like it's just the artwork, 2:05:18.080 --> 2:05:19.960 but he's drawn, like doing them himself and like just 2:05:20.040 --> 2:05:23.320 selling them, like just really like going old school. 2:05:26.160 --> 2:05:28.360 From listening to you man, you sound one of the 2:05:28.440 --> 2:05:31.880 things that I find very refreshing is that you seem 2:05:32.040 --> 2:05:33.840 to God damn that you got a whole jug. 2:05:36.280 --> 2:05:39.400 I'm about to ask for some more on the Doc 2:05:39.440 --> 2:05:43.320 Street Brewery. Yo, this isna pulled out the prohibition. 2:05:46.440 --> 2:05:47.480 Crowns. 2:05:56.240 --> 2:05:57.880 This is the moon shine that it. 2:05:57.880 --> 2:05:59.840 Comes to that kind of in the house. 2:05:59.840 --> 2:06:02.440 It's there a pineapple situation. Yes, Yes, is that like 2:06:02.520 --> 2:06:02.800 a thing? 2:06:03.000 --> 2:06:03.200 Yeah? 2:06:03.600 --> 2:06:04.920 Is that what I was telling I was trying to 2:06:05.640 --> 2:06:07.520 that when you went to like beer beer class and 2:06:07.640 --> 2:06:10.880 you sat there for six years, learned all about beer 2:06:10.960 --> 2:06:12.400 and brood it with your own goddamn hand. 2:06:12.480 --> 2:06:14.320 But you learned all about the ship, and then you 2:06:14.480 --> 2:06:16.160 took the fucking cut up the pineapples. 2:06:16.600 --> 2:06:18.520 We really cut the pineapples up, like we really like 2:06:18.640 --> 2:06:20.839 he actually cut a couple of pineapples up. My attorney 2:06:20.840 --> 2:06:22.320 and put and put a couple of Jason there. 2:06:22.360 --> 2:06:23.680 You got your lawyer cutting up pine. 2:06:31.000 --> 2:06:37.680 You performed already, Yeah, you earlier too, crazy, complying crazy. 2:06:37.960 --> 2:06:38.360 My family. 2:06:38.480 --> 2:06:39.680 I got a lot of family up here in New 2:06:39.760 --> 2:06:41.720 York too, So a couple of them came through and 2:06:41.960 --> 2:06:44.000 like my mom my sisters, my sister's birthday. 2:06:44.080 --> 2:06:46.400 So they're there and in the. 2:06:46.440 --> 2:06:47.840 Middle of it, or towards the end of the set, 2:06:47.840 --> 2:06:49.320 I see the guy say you got five minutes left, 2:06:49.360 --> 2:06:51.280 and I'm like, all right, I got one song left 2:06:51.320 --> 2:06:53.200 and then on like three, so I'm like, I can 2:06:53.240 --> 2:06:56.320 probably just get acapella off real quick, and I just 2:06:56.360 --> 2:06:58.920 start rhyming. And then as I'm rhyming, I'm like, oh yeah, 2:06:58.960 --> 2:06:59.960 that's the first time rapping right now. 2:07:00.160 --> 2:07:01.120 So like I just start. 2:07:01.200 --> 2:07:03.840 I just went off and in the verse, I shout 2:07:03.880 --> 2:07:05.240 out my mom, I shot out my sister and talk 2:07:05.280 --> 2:07:06.800 about some things that we you know, got going with 2:07:06.880 --> 2:07:10.720 the family and you know whatever, whatever, and no bullshit. 2:07:10.320 --> 2:07:10.960 It's tears. 2:07:11.320 --> 2:07:13.240 Like I was like, wow, what works. 2:07:13.400 --> 2:07:17.200 Yeah, it's just a verse, just just a verse. 2:07:17.280 --> 2:07:19.880 But I you know, I said this LP that I'm 2:07:19.920 --> 2:07:21.760 working on, I might call it, Mom, you ain't gotta 2:07:21.800 --> 2:07:24.160 work no more. Tell my big sister she ain't got 2:07:24.240 --> 2:07:26.080 to hurt no more. That's all I'm working towards. And 2:07:26.120 --> 2:07:27.440 then everybody just. 2:07:27.480 --> 2:07:30.920 Hugged each other. I was like, oh, suld have done it. Na, 2:07:31.080 --> 2:07:32.000 that's that's a great moment. 2:07:32.160 --> 2:07:32.840 It just kept good. 2:07:33.160 --> 2:07:35.920 I just I could never that was always hard for me. 2:07:35.960 --> 2:07:37.720 I mind people that can do that, Like I always 2:07:37.760 --> 2:07:39.680 would tell my family never to come to my gigs. 2:07:40.360 --> 2:07:43.280 Really yeah, I was like, y'all stay with that because 2:07:43.320 --> 2:07:44.000 it just kind. 2:07:43.880 --> 2:07:48.960 Of it just adds unnecessary not pressure, it's pressure, and 2:07:49.000 --> 2:07:49.480 it's just like. 2:07:49.960 --> 2:07:52.080 It's almost like from just for me. 2:07:52.640 --> 2:07:55.200 I mean it almost feels like you're undressing in front 2:07:55.240 --> 2:07:58.879 of your family, like that is the most vulnerable really. 2:07:58.760 --> 2:08:01.600 You know, I mean I don't really like having my family. 2:08:01.920 --> 2:08:03.720 My kids told me played for the first time last night. 2:08:03.840 --> 2:08:05.880 Take some four. They came to the show. Did they 2:08:06.000 --> 2:08:09.280 enjoy it? They just kept on waving to me. Yeah. 2:08:09.280 --> 2:08:14.320 I felt like, yeah, show yo yo, it's sold out 2:08:14.320 --> 2:08:14.920 in six seconds. 2:08:15.000 --> 2:08:18.720 What we played the Grammarcy Theater last night. 2:08:18.920 --> 2:08:23.640 Oh it was fun, chalented and bill I got ship 2:08:23.760 --> 2:08:23.880 to do. 2:08:24.600 --> 2:08:26.640 I got he's got that oscar to work on. 2:08:26.840 --> 2:08:28.360 He got that, he got the g T. 2:08:28.520 --> 2:08:30.760 We gotta give him the win an oscar whenever you 2:08:30.960 --> 2:08:31.440 want to do that. 2:08:31.640 --> 2:08:34.280 My first couple of shoes, like having a family there 2:08:34.400 --> 2:08:36.680 was the most vital part because they like thirty deep, 2:08:36.840 --> 2:08:38.640 so all his family comes to that. 2:08:38.840 --> 2:08:40.040 That helped fill the crowd up. 2:08:40.160 --> 2:08:44.240 Like they thirty deep, everybody bring one friend and it's 2:08:44.280 --> 2:08:46.640 a small old I got sixty people in there right now. 2:08:46.680 --> 2:08:49.640 I was like, so that's how that's really how the 2:08:50.320 --> 2:08:52.600 buzz started in the city, because you know, when the 2:08:52.680 --> 2:08:54.440 family leaves, everybody goes back to a different spot and 2:08:54.480 --> 2:08:56.880 they telling more people and more people and all it 2:08:56.960 --> 2:08:58.040 all just worked out brilliant. 2:08:58.200 --> 2:08:58.920 That's dope, man. 2:08:59.480 --> 2:09:00.960 So I'm happy when I when I look out in 2:09:00.960 --> 2:09:03.000 the front my mom right in the front row every time. 2:09:03.160 --> 2:09:06.520 Like listen, man chill man brother, thank you so much. 2:09:06.720 --> 2:09:09.080 Thank you for taking his time, for coming out and 2:09:09.880 --> 2:09:12.960 and for doing this on a Showdring bringing up. 2:09:13.320 --> 2:09:15.160 Thank you for showing up. You know what I'm saying. 2:09:19.680 --> 2:09:22.720 It's Fante Fantigolo holding it down for the boss man 2:09:23.240 --> 2:09:27.640 and our coat leader quest Love, who is busy working. 2:09:27.760 --> 2:09:30.360 Today we were broadcasting live from Roots Picnic in New 2:09:30.440 --> 2:09:32.880 York in New York, New York City, the city and 2:09:33.040 --> 2:09:40.640 the state. We got uh, we got lovely unpaid Bill Sherman, 2:09:40.880 --> 2:09:43.880 my Man Sugar, Steve my Man, Scott yea yo. 2:09:46.360 --> 2:09:48.600 This young lady is one of the new. 2:09:48.600 --> 2:09:51.760 Voices and one of the more prominent voices of the 2:09:51.840 --> 2:09:54.880 grime hip hop movement coming out of the UK. And 2:09:56.360 --> 2:10:01.160 she has been very patient with us after coming out 2:10:01.480 --> 2:10:04.640 of her performance today, Uh from the Roof's Picnic and 2:10:05.040 --> 2:10:05.640 waiting for us. 2:10:05.760 --> 2:10:07.880 And she showed up with some liquor and. 2:10:10.160 --> 2:10:12.240 To get to people's heart ladies and gentlemen, And I'm 2:10:12.240 --> 2:10:13.960 gonna and I'm gonna say, and I'm gonna say her name, 2:10:14.360 --> 2:10:17.600 and then after I'm gonna take your sip, and that 2:10:17.680 --> 2:10:18.400 ships gonna sound. 2:10:18.480 --> 2:10:23.640 Got like that. Ladies and gentlemen, give it up for 2:10:23.840 --> 2:10:24.600 Lady Lasia. 2:10:27.920 --> 2:10:28.600 I told you that. 2:10:31.200 --> 2:10:32.600 First Picnic performance. 2:10:33.120 --> 2:10:34.480 Yes, yes, how was it? 2:10:34.760 --> 2:10:35.520 It was amazing? 2:10:35.640 --> 2:10:37.800 You know, I didn't think I was gonna get that reaction, 2:10:38.400 --> 2:10:41.600 but a lot of them out that knew he was already. 2:10:43.120 --> 2:10:43.920 It was incredible. 2:10:44.760 --> 2:10:47.560 One of the things I think is so fascinating about 2:10:48.760 --> 2:10:53.200 mcs from the UK is that we speak the same language. 2:10:53.200 --> 2:10:57.400 I mean, we're both speaking English, but that right almost 2:10:58.880 --> 2:11:00.720 the dialect, it's just something. 2:11:00.960 --> 2:11:02.800 It's the accent really, that's that's. 2:11:02.920 --> 2:11:05.200 Well, the accent to me, I can, I can, you know, 2:11:05.600 --> 2:11:07.960 listen to the accent and I can. The accent doesn't 2:11:08.000 --> 2:11:09.320 get in the way of me understanding what you got 2:11:09.360 --> 2:11:11.320 to say. A lot of times it's just the I 2:11:11.360 --> 2:11:14.360 guess most of the dialect is how you just will 2:11:14.440 --> 2:11:17.640 have certain terms from words that we just you know, 2:11:17.760 --> 2:11:20.800 we just don't use or even like the way. Another 2:11:20.880 --> 2:11:22.880 one of my favorite singers from you came my man 2:11:22.960 --> 2:11:27.240 Doring It, who is incredible. He does the same thing 2:11:27.280 --> 2:11:29.960 I noticed you do will you guys use f's for 2:11:30.160 --> 2:11:32.960 th h. So it's the I don't even know if 2:11:33.000 --> 2:11:34.960 he knows it. But like you don't say think you say, think? 2:11:35.760 --> 2:11:38.160 Yeah, I say, think you said. 2:11:38.080 --> 2:11:43.720 You said or was it she didn't say the F? No, 2:11:44.000 --> 2:11:46.280 she said think she said think she did something with 2:11:46.320 --> 2:11:46.560 the F. 2:11:46.640 --> 2:11:47.160 She said that. 2:11:47.320 --> 2:11:49.200 You know what it is is because I'm actually from 2:11:49.280 --> 2:11:53.640 Birmingham and maybe he's from London. Because London accent and 2:11:53.800 --> 2:11:56.560 sound and dialect is completely different to anyone from up 2:11:56.680 --> 2:11:59.160 north in the UK. We have like a lot of 2:11:59.240 --> 2:12:02.440 melody and a you know what I mean, and they're 2:12:02.600 --> 2:12:04.440 very monotone London. 2:12:05.640 --> 2:12:08.120 Do you think that comes from like there's that, like 2:12:08.640 --> 2:12:11.040 the kind of Caribbean influence. 2:12:11.360 --> 2:12:11.760 No, I don't. 2:12:11.800 --> 2:12:12.640 I don't think it's that. 2:12:12.760 --> 2:12:14.840 I think I think it's just basically, you know, you 2:12:14.960 --> 2:12:19.360 have Birmingham, not in Manchester. They're north and they have 2:12:19.720 --> 2:12:23.800 a different sound, a different vibe and energy to Londoners. 2:12:23.880 --> 2:12:27.600 Londoners they just laugh at us when we speak, you know, 2:12:27.680 --> 2:12:30.880 because it sounds like we're singing that they say we're 2:12:30.920 --> 2:12:34.960 singing basically when we're talking. And yeah, some things they 2:12:35.040 --> 2:12:36.600 say that we don't say in something. 2:12:36.800 --> 2:12:37.480 So they say. 2:12:37.440 --> 2:12:42.480 Glass past fast. We say glass past fast. Is there 2:12:42.640 --> 2:12:46.600 in fast and past? You know it's it's glass. It's 2:12:46.640 --> 2:12:49.560 not glass, it's glass. So that's what we do, that's 2:12:49.560 --> 2:12:51.920 what we say. We pronounce things properly. What London is, 2:12:52.040 --> 2:12:54.480 you know, they always win because the biggest. 2:12:54.160 --> 2:13:00.440 City, you know, that's where ours comes from. The RS 2:13:00.680 --> 2:13:08.400 that's yeah, that's extra, so many extra fucking continents, good father. 2:13:08.560 --> 2:13:08.720 Yeah. 2:13:09.960 --> 2:13:15.280 So, so in doing your performance today, do you notice 2:13:15.320 --> 2:13:20.040 the difference between performing for crowds in London versus here 2:13:20.280 --> 2:13:22.920 or are there any adjustments you have to make? 2:13:23.560 --> 2:13:26.480 Uh in performing in the U in the US? 2:13:26.720 --> 2:13:31.160 Yeah, I feel like in the UK they get it 2:13:31.240 --> 2:13:34.320 straight away because the music I make is grime, and 2:13:34.400 --> 2:13:37.600 that's straight from the UK. That's gritted. That's that's us, 2:13:37.720 --> 2:13:40.280 that's what we've created. And when you try to take 2:13:40.400 --> 2:13:42.960 another jumble of music that people might not have heard 2:13:43.000 --> 2:13:46.560 of to another another state, another area, they might not 2:13:46.680 --> 2:13:49.160 take to it as well as the original place it 2:13:49.360 --> 2:13:53.840 was created in. So in America, I mean, I'm not 2:13:53.960 --> 2:13:56.920 gonna lie. I think it's incredible when they actually when 2:13:56.920 --> 2:13:59.600 they're nodding their head and they're listening and they're vibes 2:13:59.640 --> 2:14:02.440 into the music because it's it's UK music, you know, 2:14:02.560 --> 2:14:05.240 and I respect that. But at the same time, what 2:14:05.360 --> 2:14:07.560 I try to do whenever I come and do is 2:14:07.640 --> 2:14:11.840 showing America. Is I try to merge American beat or 2:14:11.880 --> 2:14:14.440 I try to connect with the crowd by you know, 2:14:14.720 --> 2:14:17.280 today I play Biggie you know that's it's New York 2:14:17.320 --> 2:14:18.400 and I got New York on. 2:14:18.800 --> 2:14:20.400 But I wear these all the time. 2:14:20.440 --> 2:14:21.480 This isn't just I. 2:14:23.400 --> 2:14:26.760 Just didn't fake it today, But yeah, man, I tried 2:14:26.800 --> 2:14:28.720 to connect with the crowd as much as possible and 2:14:29.480 --> 2:14:32.560 and yeah, and try to show them that I'm British 2:14:32.680 --> 2:14:35.240 as well as being able to understand and relate to 2:14:35.320 --> 2:14:35.880 them as well. 2:14:36.000 --> 2:14:39.480 So it goes, it goes down of it, it depends. 2:14:39.520 --> 2:14:41.920 Actually, the Americans are kind of assholes when it comes 2:14:41.960 --> 2:14:44.800 to like listening, like music, appreciating music. I felt like 2:14:44.840 --> 2:14:47.320 that when it comes to America comparing them to the UK. Yes, 2:14:47.360 --> 2:14:49.280 I feel like you guys are way more open minded 2:14:49.560 --> 2:14:50.200 and accepting. 2:14:50.320 --> 2:14:53.680 That's why a lot of groups wilsta Europe. But that's 2:14:53.720 --> 2:14:55.880 why a lot of groups here like he I think. 2:14:55.800 --> 2:14:57.000 Of the Roots, you know what I mean, Like the 2:14:57.160 --> 2:14:59.960 Roots were touring three hundred days a year, in Europe. 2:15:00.120 --> 2:15:01.560 Up, they can do that here. 2:15:01.720 --> 2:15:03.480 Let me used to be I think that used to 2:15:03.520 --> 2:15:04.000 be the case. 2:15:04.080 --> 2:15:06.840 I think more so now I think the Internet is 2:15:06.920 --> 2:15:08.800 kind of the great equalizer, you know what I'm saying. Like, 2:15:08.880 --> 2:15:11.120 I think back in the day, like maybe tweeny years 2:15:11.120 --> 2:15:14.480 ago or so or whatever, like the UK and like 2:15:14.560 --> 2:15:16.760 Europe was kind of seen as the Promised Land. So 2:15:16.880 --> 2:15:19.400 it's like, if you were fucking bricking over here, you 2:15:19.480 --> 2:15:21.280 could go to Europe and you could be the guy 2:15:21.480 --> 2:15:24.080 right now. If you're bricking here, you're fucking bricking everywhere, 2:15:24.320 --> 2:15:25.720 you know what I'm saying, Like, no one. 2:15:25.800 --> 2:15:28.280 Like the jig is up because you're just a Google 2:15:28.320 --> 2:15:28.880 search away. 2:15:29.240 --> 2:15:34.400 And if you're whacking New York, you're whacking London, Birmingham, Manchester, England, England, everywhere. 2:15:34.400 --> 2:15:36.840 I don't nobody want to hear that shit. So it's 2:15:37.240 --> 2:15:40.120 not I don't think that's the case anymore. In terms 2:15:40.160 --> 2:15:43.840 of your music, how did you get started and what 2:15:44.040 --> 2:15:45.720 were some of your earliest recordings? 2:15:45.760 --> 2:15:46.120 What were they? 2:15:46.240 --> 2:15:46.280 Like? 2:15:46.680 --> 2:15:48.400 Okay, so I wrote my first le Week when I 2:15:48.480 --> 2:15:49.240 was six years. 2:15:49.080 --> 2:15:52.000 Old, and that was just like a lot of young writers. 2:15:53.040 --> 2:15:57.000 Six eight A voicemail for my mom on that phone, 2:15:57.120 --> 2:15:59.840 so whenever anyone would phone, it would go straight to 2:16:00.280 --> 2:16:04.240 and that was over a reggae track sister Nancy Bamba. Yeah, 2:16:04.440 --> 2:16:06.400 So everywhere I go, I have to perform that. I 2:16:06.440 --> 2:16:09.040 don't care if people don't even know about it or reggae. 2:16:09.120 --> 2:16:12.040 That's something I have to do for myself. And then 2:16:12.600 --> 2:16:15.240 at the age of twelve, I discovered Eminem and I 2:16:15.400 --> 2:16:17.600 was just totally in love with him, and I knew 2:16:17.760 --> 2:16:19.720 from that point I wanted to be a rapper. There 2:16:19.840 --> 2:16:22.320 was nothing else for me. Like you know when you 2:16:22.480 --> 2:16:25.360 just feel like you know you're certain of something, I 2:16:25.440 --> 2:16:27.800 knew that I didn't want to do anything but rap. 2:16:28.360 --> 2:16:31.160 So from the age of twelve to fourteen, I learned 2:16:31.200 --> 2:16:35.039 how to mix and master my own stuff, produce, DJ rap, 2:16:35.240 --> 2:16:38.560 sing at dance. I was trying to do everything, you 2:16:38.640 --> 2:16:40.440 know what I mean, and at a young age, and 2:16:40.959 --> 2:16:44.280 I had the experience, you know, to be who I 2:16:44.360 --> 2:16:46.720 am now, you know, and to perfect on my craft. 2:16:47.320 --> 2:16:50.480 So I've been working for so long. I had my 2:16:50.560 --> 2:16:54.320 first show when I was fifteen. And because I'm Caribbean 2:16:54.440 --> 2:16:57.320 and I watch a lot of like dance hall shows 2:16:57.400 --> 2:16:57.840 and stuff. 2:16:57.920 --> 2:17:01.120 The way they they've got the crowd put the flag 2:17:01.160 --> 2:17:03.200 in the air, all that stuff. 2:17:03.520 --> 2:17:05.920 I learned that from early, so I'm not I'm not 2:17:06.200 --> 2:17:08.920 scared to to put myself out there when I'm on 2:17:09.000 --> 2:17:11.120 the stage. Even if the crowd doesn't react to me, 2:17:11.280 --> 2:17:13.560 I don't care because I'm in my zone and I've 2:17:13.640 --> 2:17:14.400 learned from the best. 2:17:14.480 --> 2:17:16.039 You know, So, who are your teachers? 2:17:17.160 --> 2:17:22.200 Eminem, Lil Wayne, He's just He's one of my biggest teachers, 2:17:22.800 --> 2:17:25.680 A little bit of Missy Elliott as far as just 2:17:25.760 --> 2:17:28.120 having fun and not came what people think. And the 2:17:28.240 --> 2:17:32.520 crazy visuals, Buster Rymes saying with the visuals, Ludacris with 2:17:32.600 --> 2:17:36.039 the visuals and the flow. But there's a few UK 2:17:36.200 --> 2:17:40.840 artists I used to listen to as well. So there's Cano. 2:17:41.000 --> 2:17:42.200 I don't know if you've heard a Cano. 2:17:43.320 --> 2:17:44.200 Was he so solid? 2:17:45.160 --> 2:17:45.200 No? 2:17:45.520 --> 2:17:48.440 No, he wasn't so solid. Crue He he was in 2:17:48.959 --> 2:17:52.000 a crew called the Movement. But then they were all 2:17:52.080 --> 2:17:55.000 doing their saying that their their own thing. So there 2:17:55.080 --> 2:17:58.040 was scorch Air, Cano, Ghetto and Deviling in this crew 2:17:58.480 --> 2:18:01.080 and Ghetto is like he so amazing. I think he 2:18:01.120 --> 2:18:03.959 would do great here. I think the UK don't get him. 2:18:04.000 --> 2:18:07.959 He's so he's like Eminem, like he's so articulate, he's 2:18:08.480 --> 2:18:10.879 crazy with the flow, and because of that, I don't 2:18:10.920 --> 2:18:13.240 think the UK get him, and I think he'd be 2:18:13.480 --> 2:18:15.800 amazing here, like people would respect him on here. But 2:18:16.120 --> 2:18:19.800 Gets was a big part of my career, like as 2:18:19.840 --> 2:18:23.640 far as like flow and technique and content and syllables 2:18:23.640 --> 2:18:24.880 and trying to hit every pocket. 2:18:25.520 --> 2:18:26.280 He was that guy. 2:18:27.280 --> 2:18:30.440 In terms of listening being in the UK and hearing 2:18:30.560 --> 2:18:35.520 American music, were there some parts of our music that 2:18:36.200 --> 2:18:38.600 just did not translate over there? Or were there some 2:18:38.800 --> 2:18:42.280 parts that culturally it was kind of like, Okay, I 2:18:42.560 --> 2:18:44.720 like the music, but what exactly are they talking about? 2:18:44.879 --> 2:18:45.280 Not at all. 2:18:45.440 --> 2:18:49.440 I think for a very long time England and UK 2:18:49.760 --> 2:18:55.560 have worshiped American music. We've even me growing up, I thought, 2:18:55.640 --> 2:18:57.520 you know, to be a rapper, you had to be American. 2:18:57.959 --> 2:18:59.600 So when I was younger, I was speaking in an 2:18:59.600 --> 2:19:02.560 American accent because I just thought that was it that 2:19:02.879 --> 2:19:05.000 you know, I'm not going to make it with a 2:19:05.040 --> 2:19:08.320 British accent, especially from Birmingham, that's a completely different accent. 2:19:08.720 --> 2:19:12.280 What does you rap like in an American accent? Like 2:19:12.320 --> 2:19:12.960 what does that sound like? 2:19:13.040 --> 2:19:13.160 Or not? 2:19:14.520 --> 2:19:16.480 Just like talk an American accent? What does that sound like, 2:19:16.520 --> 2:19:16.760 Oh my. 2:19:16.879 --> 2:19:26.720 Gosh, got bars Son. You know, I really do this. 2:19:27.760 --> 2:19:30.120 I don't know what this accent is from. I don't 2:19:30.160 --> 2:19:33.640 know what city, what area, New York. Okay, I got 2:19:33.720 --> 2:19:35.920 the New Era on the New York you know, we 2:19:36.080 --> 2:19:36.400 got this. 2:19:37.879 --> 2:19:40.080 I'm in sad with pandormic. 2:19:42.080 --> 2:19:44.160 Seriously, like literally, I do this so with this time, 2:19:44.320 --> 2:19:47.000 like when I'm on Snatchat, I always do the American access. 2:19:47.040 --> 2:19:49.520 So I love it. I actually love America, like I 2:19:49.640 --> 2:19:50.120 just think, you. 2:19:50.520 --> 2:19:53.600 Guys, at the time, at the time when I started 2:19:53.680 --> 2:19:55.760 rapping and stuff, I thought that was the only way 2:19:55.879 --> 2:19:58.959 to make it. But I think after like a decade, 2:19:59.560 --> 2:20:01.960 things of change now and and a lot of the 2:20:02.000 --> 2:20:04.760 American artists are looking at the UK and it's it's 2:20:04.840 --> 2:20:08.440 refreshing to see that there they're finally reaching out to us. 2:20:08.520 --> 2:20:10.520 Like Chris Brown has worked with a few UK artists, 2:20:10.640 --> 2:20:12.080 Draker's co signed a few. 2:20:12.000 --> 2:20:14.080 UK arts usually like Stic. 2:20:16.520 --> 2:20:17.680 Yeah, and hence Skeptic has. 2:20:17.600 --> 2:20:19.920 Been doing it for so long, you know, and it's 2:20:20.040 --> 2:20:22.800 just good to see that finally, something that the UK 2:20:22.920 --> 2:20:25.920 has created, which is grime, it's finally getting seen on 2:20:26.720 --> 2:20:27.800 really big platforms. 2:20:28.040 --> 2:20:29.039 Can you break that down. 2:20:31.120 --> 2:20:34.560 Grime is like over there, grime. 2:20:34.480 --> 2:20:37.640 Is one forty b pm, so it's quite fast. It's like, 2:20:39.320 --> 2:20:41.920 it's quite fast. It's a slower than drum and bass. 2:20:41.959 --> 2:20:45.240 I don't know if you've heard. It's slower than drum 2:20:45.360 --> 2:20:49.240 and bass. But it's very it's very it's very raw, 2:20:49.360 --> 2:20:52.960 it's street, it's it's just us, you know. It's you 2:20:53.320 --> 2:20:55.240 can tell a grime beat from a hip hop beat. 2:20:55.240 --> 2:20:57.640 And whenever an American artist goes on a grind beat, 2:20:57.879 --> 2:21:00.240 they always hit it in a different way to a 2:21:00.360 --> 2:21:01.080 grime EMC. 2:21:01.680 --> 2:21:03.000 You know, we're hitting with. 2:21:03.040 --> 2:21:08.560 The speed flows like, and then American artists would be like, 2:21:10.640 --> 2:21:13.680 you know what I mean, So we have we have that, 2:21:13.879 --> 2:21:15.560 we have our own sound, you know what I mean, 2:21:15.560 --> 2:21:19.160 and we hit it. It's very aggressive, it's very hard hitting, 2:21:19.280 --> 2:21:22.680 it's powerful, it's energic, SOMNISSI man, it's it's. 2:21:22.680 --> 2:21:25.080 It's we haven't tried to steal it from you yet. 2:21:27.000 --> 2:21:27.440 Come over and. 2:21:30.400 --> 2:21:32.840 A couple of years, don't speak. 2:21:33.000 --> 2:21:35.080 So after they leave the count in Africa, they'll be back. 2:21:36.760 --> 2:21:40.200 In terms of like, because I also saw that you're 2:21:40.200 --> 2:21:43.640 a singer as well, like you sing as well well. 2:21:43.879 --> 2:21:50.640 I tried to sing I'm not singer. Let's swiftly move on, singer, guys, 2:21:50.840 --> 2:21:53.119 I actually not that. I just know how I used 2:21:53.120 --> 2:21:56.120 to up in a church, like I used to be 2:21:56.320 --> 2:21:58.800 in choirs and stuff like that, So I know about 2:21:58.879 --> 2:22:01.800 melodies and about harmonies and stuff like that. 2:22:02.200 --> 2:22:02.440 But I. 2:22:08.120 --> 2:22:10.160 Think she, I think she can actually sing with me. 2:22:10.280 --> 2:22:11.720 I need I need a lot of work. I need 2:22:11.760 --> 2:22:13.200 a lot of melody, and I need a lot of 2:22:13.280 --> 2:22:17.160 auto tune. I need a lot of that because I know, 2:22:17.640 --> 2:22:21.000 I know I can't hit those notes that Maria carry hitch, 2:22:21.000 --> 2:22:21.520 you know what I mean. 2:22:21.640 --> 2:22:24.480 So I saw her. But I performed at New Orleans 2:22:24.600 --> 2:22:25.640 Essence Festival. 2:22:27.640 --> 2:22:30.840 Because that's a very black experience. Okay, that was very 2:22:30.920 --> 2:22:31.720 African American. 2:22:32.360 --> 2:22:36.280 That is specifically it's put on by Essence magazine, Black 2:22:36.320 --> 2:22:37.240 women's magazine. 2:22:37.360 --> 2:22:42.920 Just you know what I feel like, Because I'm British, 2:22:43.120 --> 2:22:46.320 they straight away that just they're lucked in because they 2:22:46.400 --> 2:22:49.400 hear a different accent. It's refreshing for them, it's unique, 2:22:49.520 --> 2:22:52.520 it's new. So I didn't really have to do so 2:22:52.680 --> 2:22:55.960 much to win the crowd over there was just like wow, 2:22:56.160 --> 2:22:57.800 you know is it? 2:23:04.560 --> 2:23:04.720 Yeah? 2:23:04.920 --> 2:23:07.679 But I saw Mariah Carey at this this festival. 2:23:07.400 --> 2:23:11.840 And she performed every song live except for Heartbreaker, and 2:23:12.000 --> 2:23:15.560 she managed to hit that. I can't even do it, 2:23:15.640 --> 2:23:18.279 but you know what that that she does, She managed 2:23:18.320 --> 2:23:20.320 to hit that. And I always just like, Okay, you've 2:23:20.360 --> 2:23:21.600 still got in you, you know what I mean. 2:23:21.720 --> 2:23:23.960 So that's dope, yo. 2:23:24.360 --> 2:23:27.920 That the voice is something that is very It's an 2:23:27.959 --> 2:23:30.000 instrument that's very delicate. I mean, you have to really 2:23:30.040 --> 2:23:32.040 treat it like it's an instrument and it's something that 2:23:32.160 --> 2:23:33.880 you know. One of the greatest tips I received was 2:23:33.920 --> 2:23:37.440 from a guy who's telling me. I was asking about 2:23:37.480 --> 2:23:39.840 care and stuff, and he was saying, you know, you 2:23:39.959 --> 2:23:41.120 have to treat if you look at what all the 2:23:41.200 --> 2:23:43.440 other players do at the end of the night, they 2:23:43.520 --> 2:23:45.640 put the instrument in the case. So you gotta do 2:23:45.680 --> 2:23:47.200 the same thing with your voice. You know, at the 2:23:47.280 --> 2:23:48.879 end of the night, put it in the case. 2:23:48.760 --> 2:23:52.680 And a little bit. 2:23:56.600 --> 2:23:59.720 Get those real that that that real grit. 2:24:03.440 --> 2:24:05.200 Of course you've been saying in them holes where you 2:24:05.280 --> 2:24:12.119 want to remember, it'll get you there. 2:24:13.720 --> 2:24:15.879 So we're here now. 2:24:16.120 --> 2:24:19.039 So where are you at now in your creative process 2:24:19.280 --> 2:24:22.720 in terms of what you're working on? You know, in 2:24:22.840 --> 2:24:26.000 terms of records, what is your what is your creative process. 2:24:26.120 --> 2:24:29.080 Like Okay, So at the moment, I'm working on my album, 2:24:29.240 --> 2:24:31.840 Queen the Listine, which will be out next year, and 2:24:32.080 --> 2:24:35.080 my process is quite weird because if I'm not in 2:24:35.160 --> 2:24:37.600 a good place, I can't make good music. I know 2:24:37.720 --> 2:24:40.120 that sounds as easy as as I've said it, but 2:24:41.200 --> 2:24:43.360 it isn't that. Mentally, I have to be in the 2:24:43.440 --> 2:24:47.000 right place to make fun music, which is what the 2:24:47.080 --> 2:24:49.520 Queen Speech project was all about. So if I'm in 2:24:49.560 --> 2:24:51.680 a happy place and I'm in a good place, I 2:24:51.760 --> 2:24:55.160 can make happy, funny, good music. If I feel sad 2:24:55.240 --> 2:24:57.520 one day, I'm going to make drake music. 2:24:57.600 --> 2:24:58.240 You know that you know. 2:25:02.360 --> 2:25:02.560 Music? 2:25:02.640 --> 2:25:02.800 You know? 2:25:03.040 --> 2:25:05.840 Is it is it that you prefer to do like 2:25:06.040 --> 2:25:07.880 happy stuff or in the dark snus do? 2:25:08.320 --> 2:25:11.320 I do prefer to do happy stuff because I just 2:25:11.440 --> 2:25:14.400 love to see people laugh, man, That's that's what I'm about. 2:25:14.520 --> 2:25:17.880 Like my personality off Mike as Militia, because that's what 2:25:17.959 --> 2:25:21.240 Miami is. I just love to see people laugh, make 2:25:21.320 --> 2:25:23.800 people laugh, and just you know, have a good time 2:25:23.840 --> 2:25:26.800 with more people. So that's that's the only reason why 2:25:27.080 --> 2:25:30.880 I thought of doing a project that is funny and 2:25:31.000 --> 2:25:33.959 relatable and can connect to any common man around the world, 2:25:34.040 --> 2:25:36.760 you know what I mean, Like Queen's speech. The things 2:25:36.800 --> 2:25:38.840 that I say in that are things that people can 2:25:38.959 --> 2:25:40.840 be like, Oh yeah, I know someone who does that. 2:25:40.920 --> 2:25:42.800 I know someone with Christy Bacon lips. I know someone 2:25:42.800 --> 2:25:43.840 who don't change their planeties. 2:25:43.879 --> 2:25:45.960 I know someone someone you know. 2:25:47.800 --> 2:25:48.720 You know some people do that. 2:25:48.800 --> 2:25:51.360 You know, some people just wake up, they've got their parties, 2:25:51.400 --> 2:25:53.040 an't already, they've slept in their planeties, and they just 2:25:53.320 --> 2:25:53.959 they boss out. 2:25:54.000 --> 2:25:56.280 They go, they go work, they go, they go to 2:25:56.320 --> 2:25:56.960 their friend's house. 2:25:57.320 --> 2:25:58.240 The base. 2:26:00.360 --> 2:26:02.800 Say, there are some men, now I don't. 2:26:05.480 --> 2:26:08.000 Okay, yeah, some men did like a little twang on 2:26:08.080 --> 2:26:16.959 that thing, you know, you know, one. 2:26:21.080 --> 2:26:21.840 Can't blame. 2:26:23.520 --> 2:26:25.560 Wait, I'm going to ask you guys a question. Ever 2:26:25.760 --> 2:26:29.199 left the house without watching underneath? 2:26:29.240 --> 2:26:31.120 You don't want to ask question I do. 2:26:32.200 --> 2:26:32.959 That's why we want to. 2:26:33.160 --> 2:26:35.119 Not by choice. Not by choice. 2:26:35.959 --> 2:26:38.120 It depends, Okay, all right, Okay, it depends. 2:26:38.160 --> 2:26:38.879 Okay, here's the thing. 2:26:39.000 --> 2:26:42.360 Right, If I'm just in the house, just in my 2:26:42.600 --> 2:26:45.840 natural just whatever, then yeah, I mean, it may not 2:26:45.959 --> 2:26:48.480 be necessary for me to shower if I'm just running 2:26:48.520 --> 2:26:51.720 the store because I haven't been like sweating. But like 2:26:51.760 --> 2:26:53.440 if I didn't left the gym. I'm not going to 2:26:53.480 --> 2:26:55.880 go to the gym then hot my ass in the 2:26:55.959 --> 2:26:59.400 bed and then get I'm pretty sure they are like 2:26:59.520 --> 2:27:00.360 laws and doing that. 2:27:00.840 --> 2:27:04.000 There are so no but noah, but okay, So have 2:27:04.120 --> 2:27:07.000 you ever came out your house without washing? But you've 2:27:07.000 --> 2:27:09.440 gone to a club as well? You accidentally just ended up. 2:27:09.720 --> 2:27:11.840 That's that's happened. That's happened. 2:27:17.680 --> 2:27:18.560 Ain't no shame. 2:27:21.959 --> 2:27:24.280 Because listen, if we were there's been times back in 2:27:24.320 --> 2:27:26.480 the days, you know, back before I was covered by 2:27:26.520 --> 2:27:30.000 the blood of Jesus, back when I was out there 2:27:30.040 --> 2:27:32.720 in the world, there was a time in my life. 2:27:33.160 --> 2:27:36.880 Well I will go to the club, go to the club. 2:27:37.280 --> 2:27:37.879 You know what I'm saying. 2:27:37.920 --> 2:27:40.440 You sleep, you know, you come home, you crash like 2:27:40.560 --> 2:27:43.120 two three in the morning, wake up, you know what 2:27:43.160 --> 2:27:45.400 I'm saying, and then you realize, oh shit, I'm hungry. 2:27:45.480 --> 2:27:45.680 Whatever. 2:27:45.800 --> 2:27:48.000 So then you make your way to like the hop 2:27:48.080 --> 2:27:50.560 or whatever, and you still are in your club. 2:27:51.879 --> 2:27:53.760 So what happens when you're you're in the club and 2:27:53.879 --> 2:27:57.680 you meet a beautiful woman and then you connect and 2:27:57.760 --> 2:27:59.560 then she's like, okay, I'll come home with you, and 2:27:59.640 --> 2:28:02.199 then I So what happens then the whole. 2:28:02.080 --> 2:28:05.720 Time you're praying that until the next time you got 2:28:05.760 --> 2:28:08.080 into it. Well, well, I mean, listen, man, let me 2:28:08.160 --> 2:28:09.880 let me, let me, let me say something. 2:28:09.959 --> 2:28:10.879 You can record. 2:28:14.520 --> 2:28:19.160 He's covered in the blood of Jesus. Let me play something. 2:28:19.200 --> 2:28:23.200 Let me say Okay, listen. I personally like a woman's 2:28:23.360 --> 2:28:26.920 natural firm, you know. 2:28:27.320 --> 2:28:28.959 So for me, I'm the. 2:28:29.040 --> 2:28:31.000 Type of guy's like, listen, if you go to the 2:28:31.120 --> 2:28:33.760 gym and you and your spind class or whatever when 2:28:33.800 --> 2:28:35.800 you come back, so it's like, I don't want you to. 2:28:35.840 --> 2:28:36.920 Watch that off just yet. 2:28:39.640 --> 2:28:44.199 Okay, swing around. 2:28:45.720 --> 2:28:45.959 Listen. 2:28:46.360 --> 2:28:50.040 I like some twang on that thing. So you know 2:28:50.080 --> 2:28:50.360 what I mean. 2:28:51.560 --> 2:28:53.800 Yeah, it's at flavor, it's at a presence. I need 2:28:53.920 --> 2:28:57.160 to know it's there, like I know, it's like it's 2:28:57.200 --> 2:28:58.160 that let me know what. 2:28:58.560 --> 2:29:01.400 Yeah, yeah, you know, real woman doesn't need that. I 2:29:01.480 --> 2:29:03.920 did an ingredients. You know, we have that old record. 2:29:05.800 --> 2:29:08.160 It's about me, lady. 2:29:10.600 --> 2:29:15.039 I got a lady in my life. 2:29:16.640 --> 2:29:18.199 This is not new she except. 2:29:20.080 --> 2:29:22.520 Last but you know what I mean, there's just things 2:29:22.600 --> 2:29:23.520 that I ever said. 2:29:24.720 --> 2:29:27.400 So so yeah, so for me, if I felt if 2:29:27.760 --> 2:29:29.920 answer your question, if we're in the club and it's 2:29:29.959 --> 2:29:32.600 been a night and it's been a little must or whatever. 2:29:32.879 --> 2:29:35.360 You know, I might want to freshen up or whatever. 2:29:35.600 --> 2:29:36.840 But for her, hold on. 2:29:37.160 --> 2:29:40.120 If you're in the club, everybody is a little musk stinky, 2:29:40.200 --> 2:29:44.480 and and that's what drives it mean equalizer. Yeah that 2:29:44.640 --> 2:29:48.080 we're all funky. So let's be from we're drunk. Let's 2:29:48.160 --> 2:29:55.039 go we're drunk and funky, we're drunk. It's a it's 2:29:55.040 --> 2:29:58.360 a combination. So so yeah, so that's the thing. But okay, 2:29:58.400 --> 2:29:59.360 so now let's get off. 2:29:59.400 --> 2:30:03.440 Women's hea. She took the conversation. 2:30:03.600 --> 2:30:04.920 I respect. 2:30:08.040 --> 2:30:08.200 With you. 2:30:08.600 --> 2:30:12.280 So working on working on a new record. If you 2:30:12.360 --> 2:30:15.200 need an interlude talking about that and feel free, you 2:30:15.280 --> 2:30:15.840 can drop that. 2:30:18.760 --> 2:30:19.600 I'm gonna need you for that. 2:30:19.760 --> 2:30:22.600 I got you. I drop it all this. So you 2:30:23.120 --> 2:30:26.280 working on it? On the new record be out next year. 2:30:26.879 --> 2:30:29.560 In the meantime, what are you just touring the e P. 2:30:29.959 --> 2:30:33.480 Yeah, so I'm just touring at the moment. A lot 2:30:33.520 --> 2:30:37.040 of shows, a few special features. Yeah, man, I'm just 2:30:37.120 --> 2:30:40.640 here and there and tomorrow or flight to Atlanta for 2:30:40.760 --> 2:30:41.320 a C three. 2:30:41.760 --> 2:30:44.720 If you see a free see a C three, get 2:30:46.680 --> 2:30:49.320 yeah a C three. So yeah, I'm just I'm just 2:30:49.360 --> 2:30:50.199 all over the place. 2:30:50.280 --> 2:30:54.720 Man, enjoy it, enjoy are you still do you still 2:30:54.720 --> 2:30:56.640 have your your clothing line, the freaking out line. 2:30:57.000 --> 2:30:59.200 No, it's so crazy when people say that to me, 2:30:59.360 --> 2:31:02.760 because I just didn't think people will be researching to 2:31:02.879 --> 2:31:05.040 see that, you know what I mean. That was just 2:31:05.120 --> 2:31:07.560 a little thing I was doing on the side of music. 2:31:07.720 --> 2:31:10.400 But at the moment, I'm just it's our Yeah, that 2:31:10.480 --> 2:31:13.320 could uk. It's got all the you know, the little 2:31:13.400 --> 2:31:16.280 the relatable quotes. I say, my queen's beeches like crispy bacon, 2:31:16.320 --> 2:31:18.600 bushy teeth, change your panties, you know, all that fat 2:31:18.680 --> 2:31:20.240 if one eye and your man fit you up. 2:31:22.080 --> 2:31:23.400 Little things there, you know what I mean? 2:31:23.440 --> 2:31:25.760 Because I knew, I knew people would want at least 2:31:26.000 --> 2:31:28.600 some type of merchandise. I've got the tooth bushes with 2:31:28.680 --> 2:31:30.680 the bushy teeth on my logo. I've got the crispy 2:31:30.720 --> 2:31:31.440 bacon lip balm. 2:31:32.080 --> 2:31:34.360 I wish I brought something you guys saying that you 2:31:34.440 --> 2:31:35.640 need it bacon. 2:31:36.040 --> 2:31:41.080 No, it doesn't actually actually tastes like cherry. It's actually nice. 2:31:41.160 --> 2:31:41.960 It's actually nice. 2:31:41.959 --> 2:31:42.120 You know. 2:31:42.320 --> 2:31:45.240 It's okay, you brought brown around next time and have 2:31:45.320 --> 2:31:45.720 to have. 2:31:45.760 --> 2:31:47.480 To hook you up with some some stuff. 2:31:48.560 --> 2:31:58.360 All right, Well, lady, thank you for probably one of 2:31:58.440 --> 2:32:04.840 the most open quest Love Supreme and you know what 2:32:04.840 --> 2:32:07.360 I'm saying. We wish you much love and much success 2:32:07.600 --> 2:32:11.119 on your on your journey and on your tour. 2:32:11.280 --> 2:32:11.959 You know, be saved. 2:32:12.000 --> 2:32:15.040 Good luck if you see. And just thank you for 2:32:15.120 --> 2:32:16.560 being a part, thank you for taking time your day 2:32:16.600 --> 2:32:19.160 and waiting and just you know, I know how it is. 2:32:19.280 --> 2:32:26.520 So ladies and gentlemen. Lady on question screen, Lady Lake 2:32:26.600 --> 2:32:27.280 Shop Lady. 2:32:28.040 --> 2:32:30.120 It's a song by Johnny gil called Lady du jour 2:32:30.240 --> 2:32:32.920 and I just in Johnny Gill is in my. 2:32:32.959 --> 2:32:33.560 Brain right now. 2:32:41.280 --> 2:32:45.840 I hit me up, I Do I Do funk. 2:32:54.120 --> 2:32:56.760 Cost Love Supreme is a production of My Heart Radio. 2:32:57.280 --> 2:33:00.520 This classic episode was produced by the team at a Door. 2:33:05.520 --> 2:33:09.920 For more podcasts from iHeartRadio, visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, 2:33:10.360 --> 2:33:12.080 or wherever you listen to your favorite shows.